Hi, welcome back to give us more. I'm me I'm Megan, and we are just a bunch of oversharers. We like to overshare with each other, we truly do. But at this point it's like, is it even oversharing, It's just it's just sharing. Every time we over share, like one of us is like, oh, society TMI, and then the other is like, I don't know the meaning. I like even when I meet strangers, and you know, when you meet that odd random stranger that gives you all of those dirty details, I'm like, yes, feed me.
See I do not know the meaning of TMI, Like, open it up, tell me everything. Permegan is under the weather and she has come here today to iwerk through. I had some food and had the worst enap of my life. But I'm still like really hot and like I stop shaking, thank god, Oh that's good. It's like, what the fuck is wrong with me? I was eating popcorn, pop popcorn, popcorn earlier, and you know I need like you grab a handful because you're at home, so
you're eating like a rat. Oh only wait to eat popcorn. Yeah, So I grabbed a handful and like I'll chuck out of my hand and I was like, no, please, do you know whoa She's not even exaggerating, because that is literally how I picture you, reacting, like the popcorn is shaking out of your hand and you're just going why what is happening with me? And not about her handshaking, about the fact that all the popcorn fell out of her hat. I am a slot for popcorn. It is
my favorite food on the face of this planet. Microwave, even the white cheddar. You know, Megan, no, get yourself together. That's the illness talking. Microwaved popcorn is elite. It's not as ever cinema popcorn, but it's up there. Have you ever done the like, really the diabetes written popcorn where you melt butter separately for your microwave popcorn and then pour it on. Yeah, because Kyl doesn't like buttered popcorn, like a fucking sociopath
that he is, so we have to get salted. Okay, Okay, Sorry I was a bit too angry about that. Okay. I love popcorn in most of its forms. I love toffee popcorn, I love salt popcorn. I know what I do not love. I do not love sweet popcorn. You know when they do all the weird random colors that look shitty, and so I don't hate it. And you say I'm gross for liking white cheddar. Yes, Megan, because cheesy, cheesy popcorn okay, okay,
but you'll find white cheddar or cheesy popcorn in shops easily. You will not find sweet popcorn in shops easily, because nobody's eating that shit. You do, Actually, Meghan, over here in Ireland, not in your shity, little musty spirit. I live in Erland and everything is so fucking great. I'm just literally jealous. I just want to go home. I bawled my eyes out because I saw a TikTok the other day. There's a few Irish tiktoks in a row. But the TikTok that triggered me was because it was
an old pope and it was raining outside. Wasn't it even like a traditional old pop. It was like just like the side of a pope that we'd see in our town and it was raining. But God, So last week we talked about The Devil Made Me Do It and the actual real life story behind that movie, and we talked about how awful Lorraine Warrener, the real ed fictional Ed Warren, can you get it anytime, baby, But real life Ed Warren, I will call the police, get out of my home.
Also, the real life Lorraine Warren looked like a like absolute wagon of a thing. I actually do not know what she looks like. Cold on Oh my shit. Yeah, they're haunted. I feel a presence. Just ship yourself. That was the nun and whos this is getting so derailed already. I'm so thrilled. Today's episode is about the amity phil horror. I know we're not going to talk about that really shit Ryan Reynolds version Ryan Reynolds
in that movie so Fit in any movie is so Fit that movie. I don't remember the good like I don't remember how I felt about the movie. I just remember seeing it and being like, it wasn't that bad. He was nice to look at. I think there's a point where he's topless chopping wood. Yes there is, yes, yeah, ingrained in my memory. Yeap ingrained in every buddy's memory, and for good purpose too. So we'll
just jump right on into the real life story behind the Amityville Horror. Ronald Butch de Fayo Junior was born September twenty sixth nineteen fifty one in Brooklyn, New York. He was the first of five children to his mother Louise and his father, Ronald Senior. Ronald Senior was a very successful carriers salesman, and the family would have been considered like upper middle class at the time.
They were rich, but they weren't like big time rich m h. In nineteen sixty five, Ronald Senior bought a massive house at one one two Ocean Avenue in Amityville, New York, near Long Island. The house was five bedrooms and three bathrooms. It had a swimming pool and a boathouse. I feel like swimming pools are one of those things that when you buy a house, you're like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm going to totally use that swimming pool. And they never used it. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a
bath you know. Yeah. Ronald was reportedly very controlling of Louise and the children, but he was hardest on Butch. So I'm just gonna call him Butch from here on it just to save confusion as to like which Ronald I'm talking about. Butch had a difficult childhood. He was bullied in school for being overweight, and then his father was like really hard on him. As he got older, though, he began fighting back against the bullies, and
then he also began fighting back against his father. His parents began to genuinely get concerned about him, like they were like, oh, no, he has like issues. He's fighting back, so he obviously has some issues. No, no, boy had issues. Okay, he did, He definitely did. So they brought him to see a psychiatrist. But Butch refused to speak to the chiatrists because he was like, Nah, there's none wrong with
me. I'm cool, I'm fine, I'm gee. So his parents did the only rational thing to do in that situation, and that was to bribe him into behaving. I can relate. I do that with Nile. They would give him money and they even bought him a speed both worth about fourteen thousand dollars, which today is like big money. Back then it's big money. Yeah back then, Yeah, we're out. Yeah. And however, to everyone's shock and horror, it didn't work and he didn't change his behavior.
By the time he was seventeen years old, Butch was addicted to LSD and heroin. That's crazy for a seventeen year old, Yeah, literally, Like what the fuck. I feel like you skipped a whole bunch of steps there and just went straight in for the hardcore drugs. Like have you tried a cigarette yet? I think? What? What the buck? He was expelled for violent behavior in school, so you know things are going good for him. When he turned eighteen years old, he was given a job working
for his grandfather in his car dealership. In his teenage years, he'd began a massive interest in guns, and he began collecting all different types. That sounds like a very safe interest for a man like him. I'm so glad he's nurturing that. He went on a hunting trip with a friend and they ended up having a disagreement, so Butch threatened to shoot him dead. Yeah yeah, And then when they got back from the hunting trip, Butch was like, nah, I never did that. Okay, Butch, no,
it wasn't me. On another occasion, Butch got a gun and he pointed at his father and like pulled the trigger, and by some miracle, the gun never went off. But what do you do after that? He just awkwardly stare at each other be like, okay, I'm going to bed. Do you just what happens after that also, how embarrassing that it didn't work, because now your dad's going to have to beat draft. Yeah, like
you tried to shoot the man, so you know. Yeah. Butch began feeling underappreciated at his job, despite being very well paid by his grandfather for doing sweet foot all. He felt as though his work was worth more than what he was getting paid. So Butch decided that he was going to try an embezzle money from his grandfather's business. He was a stands up guy, stand up guy. He was trusted to go to the bank one day to
lodge a large number of checks for his grandfather. However, Butch decided that he was going to hire his friend to rob him, and then the pair agreed that they'd split the money between them. When Butcher arrived back at the dealership two hours later and told his grandfather that he was robbed, things went just a little lol smidgeon downhill. His grandfather naturally called nine point one and
was like, my son was burgled, robbed. Checks are missing. So the police arrived and they had a lot of questions for Butch, and he became very irritated with the officers, and he even like attempted to become violent with them. Oh stop it. They had a lot of questions into regard in regards to where he was for two hours, like you got robbed, and then where we are you for two hours? Then for a little coffee maybe, like what were you doing? Butch began banging on cars and he
refused to cooperate. Police wanted him to come down to the police station to have a look at MoG's to see if he could see his mugger there and see if you can see the guy. That's great. So he agreed to do this, and then at the last minute he threw a tantrum and refused to go, and he was like, yeah, he's this smarket. Ronald Senior became very frustrated with Butch because of this, and they got into a yelling match. He yelled at his son that he had the devil on his
back before he like stormed out of the house. Butch called his father a fat prick and then threatened to kill him. Sorry, what was this yelling match? You got the devil on your back, boy? A bit of fat brick? What is happening? God? I hate you and I will be the night that I will fall for you. God, Dad, you're
always on my back. Such a preak. You're the devil. This is where things took a very dramatic turn, an also devastating turn, in the early hours of November thirteenth, nineteen seventy three, at the age of twenty three. He was twenty three, butch appeared to have snapped. He had a rifle hidden in his bedroom. He took it, and he walked into his parents' room. He watched both his parents sleeping for a few minutes before shooting them twice in the back. Oh god. He then went into the
room of his brother his two brothers, Mark and John. He watched his brothers lay there and then he shot them. He then watched them die. He then went into the room of his sister Don and his sister Alison, and he shot both of them while they slept. When he had shot Dawn, he shot her in the head and he essentially, because it was a rifle, he shot off the left side of her face. Oh my god. Yeah. Now, the one thing detectives found odd was that her so
like essentially the left side of her face had been blown off. She was soaked in blood. The bed was soaked in blood like her pillow and everything, but there was no blood spatter on her headboard. Butch had killed his entire family in about fifteen minutes, just going from room to room. He then went for a bath or a shower to freshen up. He got himself dressed, sure, he put his bloody clothes in a pillowcase, and he got ready for work. At about six am, he headed into work,
throwing the pillowcase of evidence into a storm drain. He put the gun in the boat house that he'd used. He then got to work, and he commented on how weird it was that his dad wasn't in yet. To be fair, would you not be if you and your dad worked in the same place, worked in the same place, would you not just go into se So Butch had a girlfriend at the time, and so I presume that he sometimes stayed with the girlfriend and sometimes he didn't. And so, like they
would it wouldn't be weird if they didn't come in together. Mm hmm. He then called the house and then he commented about how it was weird. Now one picked up the phone. He was like, that's weird, No one's picking up the phone. He finished work early, at about half one He went around to his girlfriend's house, and he made sure to mention how it was weird that he couldn't get ahold of his family, So he asked
if he could use her phone to call the house. He called the house, and then he commented again about how strange it was no one was picking up the phone all day. If you dond's so strange, why don't you just go home? Yeah, that's also very true. He then met some friends at a pub called Henry's Bear, which was actually quite near his house.
He had a few drinks with his friends, again making sure to mention about how he could not get a hold of anyone from his family all day long, and this was so weird and so strange, and his dad never showed up to work, and what's going on, you know, bazare So he headed home at around six pm, and then he ran back into the pub at six thirty pm shouting quote, you've got to help me. I
think my mother and father are shot. But and a group of his friends all went back to the house to like investigate, to like you know. His friends were like, we'll bring you back to the house, let's see what's going on. What do you mean you think like they've been shot, you know, of course they naturally have questions. When they entered the house, they found the family dog tied up barking in the kitchen. When they went up the stairs, they found his parents, who were both forty three
years of age, shot murdered in their bed. Then they found Don who was only eighteen. Alison was thirteen, Mark was twelve, and John was nine. Butch's friend called nine one one. The police noticed, like how to straw Butch was like, They were like, oh, oh, this per guy has just lost his entire family, and he was like a mess. M So Butch told police how he believed that this was the work of a mobster who had held a grudge over the family over an argument that had
happened years previous. So police took Butch down to the police station for protection because they believed he was in danger, because if this was the work of a mobster who was out to kill the entire family and he was the sole survivor, he was the next target of Butcher's story began to change a little in details here and there, like every time he told it, a detail will have changed, right, And so police are like, there's no use.
At last ten Bill m the mobster that Butcher had accused, he had an alibi, and police then obviously connected the dots of who he was and learned of his fake robbery that happened not too long before the murders. Mm hmm. The next day, police interrogated Butch for hours because they were like, no, like, what is going on. Your story is different, There's things that aren't adding on, adding up, spill the tea. It felt the fool, and eventually Butcher confessed to the murder of his family.
Quote, once I started, I just couldn't stop. It went so fast. Yeah, I did, because it only took you fifteen minutes to annihilate your whole family, didn't it, Butch? Yep. Butcher's trial began on October fourteenth, nineteen seventy five, and he tried pleading insanity. He claimed that voices made him kill his family and that it was in self defense. He killed them before they could kill him because that's what the voices were telling
him. The voices were telling him that his family were going to kill him. To be fair, it was met and LSD, wasn't it. He was like addicted to it that point heroin, Yeah, heroin and LSDA heroin, So like, I don't know, do you get hallucinations and you're on that shit. Yeah, you definitely would have hallucinations on LSD for sure. I don't know so much about heroin, but like you probably fucking did hear voices. But also, you're not insane, You're just a drug addict,
sir. Yeah. His defense team had a psychiatrist testify that Butch was suffering from psychological issues. However, the prosecute had their own psychiatrist, and he testified that despite him having many drug problems, he had social personality disorder. Butch was aware of what he was doing at the time of the murders,
like he knew what he was doing. Butch took the stand to testify, and it was basically like he'd not like to stand on like it was so clear that he'd done it, and he took the stand, and that literally does killed his case because he made comments about how he like basically enjoyed enjoyed it. Oh oh yeah, he'd like make comments about how like it was fun, you know, and you're like, no, no, you just you did it and you're sick. But also you just fucked yourself mith.
Yeah. On November twenty one, nineteen seventy five, Butch was found guilty on six counts of second degree murder, and on December fourth, nineteen seventy five, he was sentenced to six consecutive life sentences. The judge only six guns because that's the only killed six people. Oh yeah, that's right. Sorry, because I was thinking like he had five siblings, but he was
one of five. He was one of the five. Yeah. The judge claimed that if the Dafeo murders were quote the most heinous murders committed in Suffolk County since its founding, I believe it. Mm hmmm, No, it's going to take quickly. Ledwick police had found that Butch had committed the murders. Sorry, and we're back. I forgot to say we're back. And police had found that Butch had committed the murders without help. He didn't use a silencer, and the coroner confirmed that no one from the family had been
drugged. So this left many questions. Mm hmm. I was thinking this, Why didn't anybody wake up when the parents were shot? How do you shoot six members of your family on two different levels of the house. Without a single person waking up. Mm hmm. Everyone was lying down, face down with bullet wounds in and around their back, like it was all very
yeah, straightforward. Yes. A common theory is that he killed his parents and that he was able to gain control of his siblings because they were all younger than him, and that he just forced them to like stay in their beds face down until he was like ready to kill them. And also he did have a rifle, so he had that control, that control. Yeah. The police chief at the time of the murders, he struggled to believe that Butch acted alone, and the coroner also believed that there were two or
more killers. However, they all said that the same gun was used in all six murders. Butch's grandfather hired an ex police officer as a private investigator to try to figure out who might have helped Butch carry out the murders. The investigation concluded that there were at least two other people in the house the knight of the murders, to help Butch control his family and interesting mm hm.
And this investigation also concluded that more than one gun was used. However, no one was ever accused in helping Butch, and there is no way to ever actually prove that somebody helped Butch. But obviously police and investigate like private investigators. They have their theories on who helped them, They have their suspects, they just can't prove it. Yeah. After his conviction, Butch changed his story on what happened to the night of the murders. He alleged
that his father was abusive to everyone in the household. His father and his sister Don got into an argument the night of the murders, and Butch, Don, and two of his friends all went down to the basement to drink and smoke take drugs. All the jazz, Oh, all the jazz. Yeah Yeah. While down there, Butch claimed that John had suggested that they kill their father to stop the abuse, and at first Butch ignored her and was like, you know what, a silly idea, Shut the fuck up.
But as the drugs set in, he decided that actually, no, it was a good idea and that he would help her carry it. The murders okay, Don, Butch and one of their friends went upstairs with the rifle and Don shot their parents. Then their friend fled the scene, so Butch ran after him to bring him back to the house to force him to help with the cleanup. And when he got back to the house, he discovered that Don had killed all of their siblings. But then fought Don for
the rifle, and if I remember correctly, he fought her. He ended up pushing her. She fell became unconscious. He got the rifle and he decided to shoot her, and he shot her to stop her killing spree. You need to stop her from killing him. That was it. Well, it still makes sense if he says his self defense or whatever. Butch said
that Don had shot their mother first. Then their father rose to his feet from the sound of the gunshot, and Don shot him once he fell to the bed, and then she shot him a second time to ensure he was dead. Butch claimed that then their mother was lying on the bed, bleeding out, dying. She was making noises. You could hear her wheezing and all of that. So they shot her again to put her out of her misery. He said, Don's reasoning for killing all of their siblings was to
remove them as possible witnesses in any investigation. Now, Butch is known for a lie, and he's known for like he literally flip flops on his story the entire time. Some days like he't on it solely him, other days him and three of his friends. Another day it's him and the sister. And now the common one that he uses is that it was the sister,
like that's the one that he kind of generally sticks to. But he does have different variations, and he's used different variations and like interviews and stuff. Right, so it's like the fuck yeah, now, I will say to him. Though Don did have gunpowder residue on her rope, right, Okay, So it's like, Okay, I wonder is there like any different way that could have gotten there. One theory is that he like forced her to kill their father, hmm okay, or that he like forced her to stand
beside him and watch him kill. They're like a load of different things that they could have, you know. Another version of events he claims is that the night, the night of the murders, there's a fight. Don gets angry, she gets the rifle, She goes into their parents' room and she
shoots their father. Their mother Louise woke up and she becomes hysterical, and that she essentially fights the gun off Dawn and then she began killing her children one by one from hysteria, and then he fought his mother for the gun and he shot her in self defense. He said that he originally took response for the murders out of fear of how his grandfather would react to the news that his daughter had killed all of her children. What a guy. He's
literally blaming everyone else but himself. Yeah, all these dead people that can't defend themself, else that he killed conveniently, conveniently, Like, who is it? Butch? It was someone's been in my room drinking my biss Who could have been in your room? It was you, Like, someone's been in my house murdering that family. When I was there, awake on drugs, I thought of the well, it was fucking one ears fucking disgusting, yea, Honestly, why are they all staged face down in their bed?
Oh so, if that's the case, why did you go to the pub and go to work and go to your girlfriends? Why did you like stage a whole scenario of like, what where is my father? I haven't seen it, Like, oh my god, I didn't aleast murder him? What? No, Yeah, it's not adding up here, Butch there's a lot of like it's one of those things where you're never actually going to know what really happened, unfortunately, because he has changed his story so much. But
also he definitely done it. It's just like, how did he do it? And did he actually have help? So the house went up for sale shortly after Butch was arrested for the murders, and on December eighteenth, nineteen seventy five, George and Kathen Lutz bought one one two Ocean Avenue. They bought the house only thirteen months after the murders of the Dafao family, and they bought it with all of the Dafayo's furniture inside of it. Oh no,
don't like that. Don't like that one bit, including like family portraits. Oh no, no no. But then at the same time, like, yeah, who was going to go in? It's called my grandfather. I don't care who goes in. Why are you keeping the furniture? You're sick? They paid extra for the furniture. Okay, they paid me keeping the furniture. But like family portrait, No, somebody died in that house. Okay, I don't want to sit on the sofa of a murdered woman.
I mean, maybe I don't want to eat dinner. I don't know. I don't think I would be that. I am not dinner where a family at their dinner the day that they were all fucking annihilated. True, yeah, yeah, that is true. Obviously have a family who bought it new No? Yeah yeah. A family friend of the Lotses suggested that they contact a priest to have the house blessed before they moved in, and they
did do just that. They had a priest come the day that they were moving in, and as they were moving their stuff in, the priest went from room to room, blessing each room. He entered the room where Butch murdered his younger brothers, and the priest began flucking his holy water around the room, reciting his prayers, and as he did this, he heard a loud masculine voice shout, get out. Oh. The priest apparently never told Kathy and George about this, but he told them not to use the room
as a bedroom, and they listened. So Kathy turned it into her sewing room, like, you know what, there's a demon in there, but it's fine as long as you don't sleep in there. You should be good. You should be good. I blessed it, so just don't sleep in there should be fun. Yeah. They claimed that their personalities began to change from the worst, like immediately. They said that the house would smell of bile and cheap perfume, black stains appearing on the toilets, and nothing would
remove them, not even bleach. That's a really strange manifestation of demons. That demon shit, yo, will not come off. Have you tried the pink stuff? And it's drub daddy. That pink stuff looks miracles. I'm telling you, guess, grub Daddy, that's what you need. You do need a miracle. It gets it gets worse. They claimed that they saw
slime falling town their walls. No one day. The family said that they found hundreds of flies in the sewing room in the middle of winter, which is like not fly season, Thank fucking God Jesus, not for them. And there's a plague happening in that room. I hate sleep in it. There's a place a plague upon your house. Kathy claimed that she began experiencing unseen Hi, baby, come sleep in this room with me. I'm lonely. Oh how I've missed a woman's touch. George was experiencing constant chills and
he would have to sit beside the fire all day. Men, it's middle winter. You're chopping wood shirtless. Come on, Rylan Reynolds. Of course you have to sit aside the fire. I can heat you up if you want. Okay, just put a fucking shirt on. He also began having terrible nightmares, and he claimed that he would wake up every night at three point fifteen am, which is when the mergers allegedly took place. What he claimed he woke up at three am one night and he saw his wife transform
into an old hag. It was just her birthday, she was turning forty. She just took her makeup off. Bro, No need to be so hurtful. Can you imagine if Kyl was like, oh my god, last night he turned into an old haag. Okay, that's nice. He also said that the next night she was levitating off the bed and he had to pull her back down. The family contacted the priest again to perform another blessing, but he claimed he was still recovering from the first blessing, as he
became extremely ill after visiting the house the first time. They claimed that one of their daughters hadn't en friend named Jody, who was a pig with red eyes. A pig with red eyes. Yes. The daughter claimed that sometimes Jody was as big as a teddy bear, and other times she was bigger than the house. She claimed that she could see her glowing red eyes in the middle of the night, and even outside her window in the late night darkness. Don't like that. I don't like that one bit. Actually,
you can keep that one to yourself if you don't mind. Yeah, I don't want to hear that. And she said that Jody would also often stand behind her. Okay, well, if Jody is a pig, how is she standing? I'm confused. I just have a few questions. Do we have a hand drawn picture of Joey says now, I'm really interested. I need to see Jody now. No, I take that back. I don't. Oh, it's just sucking sexty men. Oh, I was getting excited.
They claimed that whatever was causing whatever this was, whatever supernatural thing that they're experiencing, was causing physical damage to the house. It pulled doors off hinges, it was scratching presses, it was breaking windows, It was doing the whole shebang, got slime running down the walls like Pickelodian holes. Their dog reportedly was choking on nothing one time. Okay, you know what dogs
do that though, I'm not even being funny. Dogs. Sometimes. There was a rumor that George was practicing black magic and that's why he wanted to buy the house because he knew of the murders. And it was like, hmm hmm, black magic, black magic, work for it. After twenty eight days, Megan the family packed up their belongings and moved in with Kathy's parents. This all happened in twenty eight days. You know what the relationship that Jody and the kid were able to build in twenty eight days is.
It's actually kind of impressive. Magical. Yeah, The Lutz family called Ed Lorraine Warren to come investigate their horror house. So Ed Lorraine come to the house and they do a seance and Lorraine is like, oh my fucking god, the energy in this house is so jack There's nothing I can do for you. I'm so sorry, You're gonna have to live with it. There's just too much evil in this house that I just can't expel it. It's
too, evil gets excisaments. Despite Butch being alive, sadly and well serving his life sentences in prison, Lorraine claimed she could feel his soul in the hosse. Oh no, girl, the ray Honey, he's still love though. She's saying, though, that his soul is trapped there and there's a demon in his physical No, no, no, She's just like, I can feel presence is like soul, hiss like spirits, like bad vibes.
Yeah. Like she's like, he never said, I don't well to my knowledge anyway, she wasn't like, oh, there's a demon in him. She was just like, he's just like left a part of his soul here because of what he did. Hmm okay, true evil. I can't expel that, but can we interest you in a book? Deal? They took photos around the house during the seance, and there is a famous photo from this which shows a boy with white eyes appearing behind a door. I don't
know if you've ever seen it, Megan, No, I haven't. It's believed to be a photo of the ghost of either John or Mac Defayo Marc not Mac. Sorry, I'm googling it. Mm hmmm. I think it's called the ghost boy photo or something or a demonic I'm Gonnaville ghost boy mm hmm, oh eh, I hate that photo. I don't like that photo at all. I feel like it's just a photo of a kid though, Like I don't like my n no ghost. He does have white eyes though, yeah, but that it's a black and white photo that could just be
like the flash yeah yeah they had. It wasn't just Aid and Lorrain that we're there. There was like other people there. Can I just say that the little boy John was absolutely adorable. I know, Yeah, it's very sad, it's just so cute. A lot of people do question the authenticity of this photo because, as I said, they had people there in the house, like they had people that were working for him and stuff, and so they took a photo and they're like, oh, yeah, this is
one of the boys that was murdered. And then a lot of people were like they could just be somebody that works for you that like got accidentally caught in the photo. Yeah, and like that's why their eyes are white, because it's like an accident, Like they're not actually like posed for the photo or anything. They just like they turn in the you know, flashing their eyes, like the flash like just hit their eyes whatever way they were looking
at the camera. So the Lutz family then decided to write a book about the experiences and they named it like the Amity phil Horror, but the real Amaville Horror was the fact that a family got slaughtered. They're not your fake made up experiences. Literally literally there's so they made this book. It became like a best selling book. I believe it, like I'd probably read it. The priest that they named in the book came forward was like, I
never stepped foot in that house. No, oh, my god, embarrassing. It was like I had a phone call with them, but I never went to the house. Ooh, that's so embarrassing for them. Yeah. So this caused a lot of speculation on how true their story is and was. As I said, the book was a best selling novel. They marketed is nonfiction. Mm hmmm, honey, you're trying to tell me that slime went Daniel Walls and you're going to market it is nonfiction. There was a
red eyed pig neve. There's no disputing that, no disputing The book went on to be adapted into several movies. As we all know that grossed millions. The house was on the market for an exceedingly long time before well after this, it was like almost known as a murder house because I'm pretty sure George Lutts was like trying to say that, like he felt like he could hear the voice of Butch de Fayo like telling him to kill his family. He was like, no, I don't want to go my family. Yeah,
that's what they all the movies are kind of based on. It's like the voice telling the head of the house to kill his family, to kill his family. It was eventually sold. I think it was sold in twenty seventeen. Someone eventually bought it. They had to change the address, like they had to legally change it from one one to Ocean Avenue to like one o eight Ocean Avenue, And it was to try and stop people from popping
up at the house. God, because like true crime people and like lovers of the supernatural and like you know, fans of the movies and fans of the book, like we're coming to the house being like, yeah, yeah, that's the Amityville Hower House. That's grim though, but then at the same time we're true podcasts, so like can we really talk. I wouldn't go to somebody's home though, I know, I know I wouldn't show up at somebody's home either. If the home was turned into a museum, heck,
yeah I'm there because now it's open to the public commission. Yeah. But if it's someone's private home, no, that's their home. Feel like someone come into your house being like, oh, yeah, that's where you know. No for cose, this is my head. That's where Meghan lives. Wow, famous podcaster, amazing content writer. She often do that. But it didn't Like they did change the address, but it didn't stop people from coming because the house in the movie is essentially how the house looks in
real life. Oh okay, so like it's easy to spot because it's on the fucking cover of the movie. Butch died on March twelfth, twenty twenty one, at the age of sixty nine, and from unknown causes. It was never released what killed him, but God for him, he had to serve a good chunk of prison life, which is what he deserved. M I'm pretty sure shame on the lux family for trying to cash in and well
successfully cashing in on a really horrible, horrible crime. Yeah, and I think that's what the worst thing about this is is that the actual murder of children and two adults gets completely overshadowed by this like weird fake thing that the Warrens. And it's like they sejured up, you know, like they've seen movies and they've seen different things on like hauntings, and they just like took from it. Yeah, and it's saly one of them like admit that it
was all fake. No, nobody's ever admitted it to being fake. I don't even know if any of them are alive anymore. I'm pretty sure their children they just don't want to talk about it. Yeah, of course. Well either way, if it was true or if it was fag, you wouldn't want to talk about it. No, it's traumatic either way. It's traumatic either way because your parents used you to like try create this like best selling novel. This happened to us, This is real life. No,
it wasn't real life. Yeah, Like they placed you in the middle of all of it, even if it was real. They brought you to a house that had horrific things happen in it, and Kathy and George knew what they were moving into. And we're like, yeah, like we'll get famous off this. Yeah, twenty eight days is not really a long time. So that being said, if it was true, I wouldn't also be like,
well, why did they wait so long to leave? If they did wait any longer, yes, and no, I would be like, but then you see in saying that, like you don't have the money to move out of these houses, do you know what I mean? Yeah, Like I'm pretty sure they bought the house for like half of what it was worth just because like the family died in it, and then they obviously lived there for a month, essentially created this story, and then sold it for millions
and then the house went up in value because that's the famous house. Yeah, I don't know if that was my house and I died in it and people are profiting off of it, Like I'd be haunting this shit out of that house, you know, I do. I do. Think It's like like you're never going to know, like that's the you know, like you're never going to know what really happened the night the whole like the Dafaos were murdered, and then you're never really going to know what the lots actually experienced.
MM. But it's just like for because it's like, if you did that just for money, you're sick. Yeah, Like a fucking family died and you're trying to like profit off it by saying that they're all haunting you. You didn't even wait a few years, you know. Yeah, like you just literally went straight in. Yeah. And then on top of that, then it's also sick for the Warrens to also try cash in on it.
Yeah, that's the other thing. Like the Warrens, if we're correct and what we're saying, they did pollude with this family to be like either they were like, oh, yeah, your house is totally haunted. Let's we need to tell the world, or they literally sat in and we're like, okay, what can we make out of this? Yeah, like hey, if you call us and tell us all about these experiences, then we can like make it a bigger deal and then it'll be worth more. Like
they did a two part like a TV special thing. I presume it's on like that public public channels. Yeah, but they like sat down and I'm basically for like for two hours or some shit, sat down and like talked
about like what they experienced at the Amityville House. Yeah, you're like you're just greedy but fucking died, Like I know, like we're sitting here making a podcast on it, but like we're sitting making a podcast on it, telling the information of what happened, not being like And then I got lightheaded and tired. And that was definitely the Dafaos haunting me because I'm researching their case. Imagine like what, I'm sorry, excuse me. And then I
had some unseen touches. And then there was slime on my wall. And then there's these mysterious stains on my toilet that was not literally just sounds like you have a child. And then there was like merker on my wall. Don't know where it came from, like pushing Anna out of the frame, and now Anna is seeing an imaginary friend. Yeah, and like kids don't make stuff up, you know, never never. That's all I got for you today, guys. I hope you really liked it. Next week,
Megan's gonna tell us a story because it's my birfect. So I'm taking it off. I'm not well. No, I probably still research book. I'll like, you know, kill Yeah, I won't be like I gotta finish this. Yeah, and you deserve to chill, you've like, don't like four in a row. Yeah, but to be fair, the last one, we're supernatural. I know people actually died, but also they were supernatural and I got to bash on the real life wirens. So that's always fun.
That's always a plus. Well, I had fun. Guess what happened to me to other day when I was in a shop Okay, I'll never guess, you get Yeah, I was walking minding my business in one of these aisles and somebody walked by and like burged into me, and I like fell into the shelf and I scraped my arm and it was bleeding and now it's a scap. I hope they have. I hope they have the week that they deserve. Yeah, they didn't even stop, didn't even say sorry
or anything. Freaking rude. Yeah, super rude. Anyway, Sorry, It's just I could feel it, So that's okay. I needed to share that story. Then I burned the same rim on the oven later on in the day. I break my arm earlier on there on the oven taking stuff out of the oven and work the oven is like like five degrees. So I hope you enjoyed this week's episode. If you have and you have already
done, so check out some of our other stuff. Last week, as I said, we talked about The Devil Made Me Do It, which is interesting because again it's about the Warrens. And then the week before that, I talked about Jack the Ripper. That was a two parter that was fun because I enjoyed the like really really old cases. They're fun. They're like fun to research, yeah, which I know sense fad, but it's like
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