Welcome back to give us mark. Hi'm Megan, and it is Saturday, Saturday, Saturdayay, Saturday. That's nice Saturdayay. Yeah, and you might be getting this episode. Hopefully you'll be getting it on Sunday still, but if not, tough titties, because I am a little bit drunk and I'm planning a hangover tomorrow because it was mine of my partner's seven year anniversary and we went out for dinner, So suck on that. And I'm just drinking wine because as you should, as you should, sort of a bitch.
There's a fly in my wine. Yo. It was just so tasty, he said, I want some of that, Give me some of that. Come here, you little asshole. I love the way how it's like a thing that whenever a fly gets into your wine, you just pick it out and like that. That's the thing. Like I've seen that before. I've seen that before. We're not wasting the wine. No, not because one fly took a nose dive for you, joking, why wouldn't he? So you guys, we got a fun little episode for you, a fun tippit.
We recorded some of it and then our internet went down and we couldn't finish it. So here we are again. Yeah, welcome to the second iteration of this episode. So Megan's like, great, can't wait to hear this again. You know it was it was It was a week so maybe I don't remember it. Maybe this is my first time I'm actually gonna digest it, so we'll never know. So today's episode is, in my personal I feel like it's somewhat HALLOWEENI because it almost doesn't feel like a real case
because it happened so long ago. Yeah, there's like so much intrigue and mysterious and so many drama cetaceans of it as well. Yeah, it's Jack the Ripper. I'm just gonna give you a little backstory of the area just to like paint the scene, paint a picture for everybody. So Whitechapel is in the East end of London and it's during the late eighteen hundreds that all
the crimes happen. It's considered a very rough and impoverished area, like it's a nice area to live in. It was known for its crimes for violence, along with an extremely high drinking rate. The area was overcrowded with Irish immigrants who were fleeing the Irish famine. Oh my god, I wonder why the drinking rate was so high, us two Irish ladies drinking our wife. It was also overcrowded with Jewish immigrants here fleeing from Russia's anti Semitic program.
Whitechapel had substandard housing, like at best standard housing. Yeah, there was a massive homelessness problem along with per sanitation. Thinking balls and attacks were really common on the streets, and there was even some areas that police would refuse to patrol on their own, Like there was certain streets that like police were like I'm not going down there. Kind of get that in a way. But it's like also, you're you are the law, brother, it is
your job. But okay. Yeah. Prostitution was the most common job for
women. There were common lodging houses, which was basically just a cheap bed for the night where you paid like X amount of money just literally for the bed at night, and then like the next morning you had to get up and you had to leave, and it wasn't like you could rent it like continuously, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, you were not guaranteed that the same lodging house would take you back the next night, Like It was very watch first come, first serve, Like if you got to
stay in the same lodging house for like say a month, and then like you you get to know the owner, and then like one night you just you're really short on money, you don't have the full payment. They don't give us a because they're like, I'm sorry, someone else gonna pay it, so off you go. People would have to join workhouses for a work for work and bed, but this was very very much seen as a last resort, Like you did not want to enter the workhouse on like, if
you're entering the workhouse, you really cheerly have no other option. Cut man life into pieces. This is my workhouse chores. Like women were choosing sex work over workhouses because that's how bad it was. The like conditions, Like, however bad the area was, the workhouse conditions they must have been. They must have been bad. If if women are choosing the sex workover women are like, I'll just take my chances on the streets. Yeah, you
know, it's not good. Mary Anne Nichols was born in August twenty sixth, eighteen forty five, in London. She eventually got the nickname Polly and that's what she went by, and that's what she was known as until the day she died. When she was nineteen years of age, she married a man named William Nichols. The couple would have five children together and they were
doing pretty well for themselves. They managed to get themselves an apartment in the Peabody Building, which was this newly built apartment block that was only for the working class with high morals. Yes, the Peabody Building. Like the people who ran the Peabody Buildings, they were very selective about who could live there. And you once you got in, you had to maintain a high moral
standard of living. And like some people ended up being evicted for like having affairs and stuff like imagine your landlord is like very I just don't agree with your morals of having men o fair late at nights to God. Yeah yeah, well previously didn't agree with me having a cat, and you know how that turned out. I got a cat. You're out married. I'm so sorry, you're gonna have to leave or get married. So a widow moved
next door to Polly and William along with her with her daughter Rosetta. Rosetta was hired by Polly as nanny for like as a helper nanny. She was hired for like as nanny and then also like for kind of like help her in the house and stuff fad kids, you know. Also, it's believed that like, Polly was kind of starting to drink a little at this point, so it didn't take long for rumors to circulate that Rosetta and William were having an affair. Was William This is when Polly's drinking got very heavy,
and this led to a lot of fights between her and William. Polly went to stay with her family for a little bit every now and again when like, the fighting would get really really bad. Mostly she stayed with her father, but she would sometimes stay with her brother. It's a little bit unclear why brought At some point Polly stopped staying with both her brother and her father. It's believed she wouldn't stay with her father because her drinking was really bad
and her dad just couldn't really cope with it. So that's when Polly entered Lambeth Workhouse. Polline was pregnant with her fifth child by William, obviously, and she feared that if she was to stay in the workhouse and give birth there, that she would be separated from her child, because that was a
common thing. Like as soon as you gave birth, you got like maybe a day or two days to like you know, heal and stuff, and then your baby was like placed in like care and you like had to get back to work to basically pay the debt of the workhouse birthing your child. Yeah, So she decided that the probably the best thing to do was to just go back to William. So she did, and she gave birth. You know, everything was fine, except for the fact that she was still
drinking very heavily and the fighting William was like worse than ever. So Polly decided that she was going to pack up all of her belongings and she left William and her kids and headed back to Lambeth workhouse. Soon after this,
William and Rosetta left the Peabody buildings and began a life together. They never actually got married, but I think they did end up having a child of their own, and Rosetta just essentially like they did eventually get married, but not for years, Like they didn't get married straight away, if you know what I mean. But I think Rosetta went by Nichols like Rosetta Nichols and answered to missus Nichols, William needs a fucking game, a Jenga or something.
He needs distraction, and Rosetta raised Polly and William's five children. So that's, you know, not great. It wasn't long before Polly left the workhouse just on the conditions there, and she began working as a prostitute on the streets. On August thirty first, eighteen eighty eight, Polly was found by Charles Cross at three forty am. Charles was on his way to work when he saw Polly lying on her back on the ground beside a locked gate.
Her skirt was pulled up by her waist. Charles called over another man, Robert Paul, and pointed Polly out one He was more so like do you think that woman's dead or like? It wasn't like a like a roach like it was. It was like, are you seeing what I'm seeing? So the two men went over to inspect Polly to check that she was still alive. Polly's thinks was still warm, but her hands were cold. Robert pulled down Polly's skirt to try and give her some dignity, and then the
two went and found a police officer. They told the police officer about the woman that was either unconscious or dead, told him where to find her, all that jazz, and then they just went on about their day because they were like, we got to get to work. The officer went to go check on Polly and there was already another officer there. So between the two men going to find an officer, another officer had come along and had just found her. Right, so he sent like he sent somebody to go get
the to go get the corner. The corner arrived on the scene at around four am and he found that and what said, last time I feel like that, TikTok said, where it's like her arms were cut off, her feet were cut off, her legs were cut off, her tongue was cut off. Yeah, yeah, it's jugged a whipper. Don't hold back, and we would found that Polly's throat had been cut from ear to ear and was so deep that she was almost decapitated. He noted that because she wasn't
fully cold, that Polly was only dead. Approximately thirty minutes, Polly's abdomen was sliced open, exposing her intestines. She had been stabbed twice in her vagina and I believe as well. I am her intestines were like spilled out. I am uncomfortable at mister Ronas. William was the one that was requested to identify her body because they were still technically married, so he had to.
She wasn't fun. I can't imagine. When William saw Polly's body, he said, quote, I forgive you as you were for what you've been to me. Oh, I'm sure it's all she wanted in death, was your forgiveness, William. We fucking asshole. William and Rosetta got married a few years after Polly's murder. I'm William was a suspect for a little while, but not for too long. They soon were kind of like, no, wasn't you. During the investigation, Polly was painted as a no good
tramp who was nothing more than a dirty prostitute by police and newspapers. That's intense. Witnesses told police about a man that they had nicknamed leather Apron, John or Jack Peiser. They weren't shirt like, they were like, we're not sure of his name. It's either John, it's either Jack. He worked as a boot finisher in the area of Whitechapel and he always wore this leather apron. He would use sex workers and then he would threaten and beat
them up, like just for funzies. Really, oh fantastic, brilliant, Yeah, what a guy. He was described in the newspapers as a quote more ghoulish or devilish brute than can be found in all the pages of shocking fiction. But imagine it's not him, and they're just fucking dragging his ass in the newspapers. Yes, I love it. He fled Whitechapel when he found out that he was being like, he was being investigated, and when he was a suspect, he was like, I I get the fuck out
of here. That doesn't scream innocent to me. No, you're not helping yourself. Let that. Yeah, calm down. Annie Chapman was born September twenty fifth, eighteen forty. Her father was a soldier in the second Regiment of Lifeguards. Annie was the oldest of five children. Her family moved around a lot due to her due to her father's job, as he was stationed all over London, like he worked for the Royals and he would just be placed anywhere that he was needed, and so for that reason, the family
had to go with him all the time. There was a lot of benefits to his job. It's also believed that he got Annie's mother pregnant before they were married, and so then the regiment were like, no, you don't have to marry her now because work through the royal So my good luck. Yeah. Both Annie's parents were heavy drinkers, despite doing very well for themselves. According to Annie's brother, she was quite young when she first started to
drink and she had a strong liking for rum. Same Annie was quite rebellious and she didn't want to conform with society. She was not like the other girls. She did eventually get a job as a domestic maid. On June thirteenth, eighteen sixty three, Annie's father committed suicide. He had retired from
the regiment and was doing other work, like within the army. He was still doing work, but it wasn't what he had been doing, and I think he really struggled with that and that essentially led to depression, which in the eighteen hundreds, what's still depression then, Yeah, So unfortunately it led to him committing suicide. This meant that the family lost all of their privileges that his job had given them over the years. That's sad. It is
sad. Soon after this, Annie was seeing a man, John Chapman, and the couple were infatuated with one another. John asked Annie to marry him on May first, eighteen sixty nine, and the pair wed on June twenty fifth, eighteen seventy, and the couple welcomed their first child, and by
November eighteen eighty the couple had two daughters and one son. Annie had many still births and miscarriages over the years, and this led to her drinking a lot to try and obviously cope with the trauma that she was dealing with. She ended up getting John fired from his job. Yeah, she was caught stealing from his boss. Allegedly. There is no like one on this. I believe it's all alleged. But he did lose his jobs, so right row yeah m hm. Annie's drinking got so bad that John asked her to
go join a program for seeking help with it. It wasn't like what we have nowadays, which is AA you know, and it's very much like how can we help you stop drinking? It's very it. Back then, it was very much like devils in you you who in your blood, so you know, not helpful really. While Annie was in the program, John got John got a new job and the family had to move into apartment over some stables, which was where he was working. Annie then returned home to this
new apartment for John's new job, and she soon felt pregnant. I think it's believed that his bosses like. So they moved into a like really small apartment over over the stables where John worked, and then like the house that the like bosses was like a few you know, was up the yard or whatever. They didn't like any They were like, m m mmmm, goodfriend's not it? Oh god? Yeah. Annie was drinking heavily again, and things got bad, like they got so bad that John felt like he had
no other option but to kick her out. Annie's son was born with a disability and he had to be placed in hospital, and Annie's drinking got way, way worse and so much worse that John told her that he had had enough and that she wasn't welcome in their home anymore. Fair enough when there's a kid involved. Well, yeah, so Annie found herself in Whitechapel selling
crochet designs for money for lodging houses. This wasn't really making Annie enough money because it like it's whatever everyone was selling during the daytime, Like everyone was selling like whatever skills or crafts that they had, that's what they sold. So and like there's a fucking homelessness problem, so that's what everyone's selling. Yea. Yeah, So she soon turned to sex work, and she would also stay with men in order for them to pay for her bed for the
night. She started seeing a man, Ted Stanley, who people had nicknamed the pensioner because he was quite a bit older than her. I believe she was receiving a weekly allowance from John, but it was all being spent on drink. Annie then got news that John had died on December twenty fifth, eighteen eighty six, from liver crosis on a Christmas Day. Yeah, he
died from a disease which would have been from excessive heavy drinking. He kicked her out for excessive heavy drinking, and he died from disease that was from excess Like, dude, really, I'm sorry you died, noll but gee. People claimed that Annie lost her spark after learning of John's death. She became really reliant on sex work to survive. During this time, because like she was budding a weekly allowance from him, and when he died that stopped,
Like there was not being supplemented anymore. Yes, so she like really struggled. She was staying at a lodging house in Dorset Street, which is not a good area during this time, and she was given the nickname dirk Annie because she became dirk and violent when she drank. Ted was still seeing Annie and he would often pay for her room at the lodging house. However, he told the owner of the lodging house that he was to watch Annie and if she ever brought another man back to the room, that she was
to be kicked out. Oh oh, yes, he was seeing another woman. Yeah, good men of eighteen hundreds. Then in August eighteen eighty eight, Annie met her brother. He was unaware of Annie's situation and she downplayed how bad things were. He had a drink with her and he gave her some money and that was the last time he ever saw his sister. A few days before her murder, Annie got into a fight with with Ted's or
a woman, Eliza Cooper. It's reported that Annie had used soap that belonged to Eliza, and she wanted to she wanted Danny to give the soap back, and or I'm not really sure, like the details on the fight are a little bit fuzzy, but something out the lines of she used Eliza's soap. Eliza was pissed and was like, don't nice help even no ready to use it and use another lady's soap. You don't use another lady's soap. And Annie threw a halfpenny at her and was like, here, fine,
they go, you bitch. Oh she got petty about it. Yeah, and things got physical, resulting in like black eyes and bruises and all sorts. Annie bumped into a friend on September seventh, eighteen eighty eight, and she later told place that Annie was in a bad way, like she looked rough, she didn't look good, she didn't look healthy, like girl Pop was not doing so hot. On September eighth, eighteen eighty eight, Annie
didn't have any money for a lodging house. She asked the owner if she could sit in the kitchen despite not being able to stay for the night, and the owner agreed. Several people commented on how terrible she had looked. One man helped her as a box of her pills had broken and he like they flew everywhere. He helped her pick them up and he put them in an envelope for her so that like she wouldn't lose them. It was nice.
It was nice. Around two am, the owner told Annie that she had to leave because she'd no money for a bed, so she couldn't stay. And I think she was like, I'll be beck, don't you worry, Like I'm gonna get my money from my bed, the bitch. At about five thirty am, Annie was seen talking to a man beside a house on Hanbury Street, presumed presumably for sex work. The man looked like a foreigner and he was wearing a deer stalker hat, which is like the Sherlock
Holmes hat, and he looked to be about forty years old. The witness heard a witness sorry, a witness heired. The man asked Annie, will you and Annie replied yes And five thirty am, a man who lived at twenty seven Hanbury Street heard panic coming from outside, but he ignored it. A few minutes minutes later, he heard something put against the fence that divided his house or his apartment to the apartment of twenty nine Hanbury Street. He
also hated someone's shout No, however he didn't investigate. Ah, it's eighteen hundreds of it all. I probably wouldn't have investigated either. Yeah, do you know? It was very common to hear like shoutings and commotions and stuff. Then at about six am, the owner of twenty nine Hanbury Street discovered the body of Annie Chapman. Annie's throat had been cut so deep that the coroner assumed it wasn't an attempt to remove her head. Annie wasn't okay,
He was not okay. She also had several injuries to her abdomen in a similar way to Polly. Annie's pills were found on the ground beside her body. Her wedding ring was forcibly removed from her finger. The pocket of her skirt was cut open and the contents were scattered all over the ground. Police then found a bloodied leather apron that was in a boocket close to Annie's body. Annie's face and tongue were swollen, which led the coroner to believe that
the murderer tried to suffocate Annie before attempting to remove her head. Annie had been disembowled and some of her intestines and stomach had been removed and placed over her right shoulder. The murderer also removed part of her uterus and bladder. The coroner believed that the murderer was someone with anatomical knowledge, as the uterus was cut out with one single incision, which is not an easy thing to
do if you do not have the knowledge on how to do it. The coroner discovered that Annie was dying from a lung disease and that she actually would have been dead in a few months. Oh my god, mm hmm. The residents of Hanbury Street began charging for people to look out their windows into the garden of twenty nine Hanbury Street to see the crime scene. Lovely,
you know what, we still have that morbid curiosity. Annie was buried in a public cemetery, which meant that over the years, other people would have been buried on top of her. In two thousand and eight, the cemetery put up a plaque up near where she was buried, which read quote, this plaque is dedicated to the memory of Annie Chapman died September eighth, eighteen eighty eight, a victim of the famous Jack the Ripper. Her remains are
buried within this area. Okay, so loving. On September tenth, eighteen eighty eight, police found an arrested leather Apron. His name was John Pyser, the owner of a lodging house that Annie Chapman had been staying and told police that he kicked John out of the lodging house on several occasions for attacking and threatening most of the women there. He was also known for wearing a deer stalker hat. When police searched his home, they did find he owned
five sharp knives. However, he was a boot finisher, so he would have needed those knives. It wasn't like he just was a weird knive collector. Sorry. When he was arrested and brought in for questioning, the public went wild with the news that Jack the Ripper had been caught. There was a broadsheet which was center in Whitechapel area which read quote, they captured leather Apron. Now, if guilty, you'll agree he'll have to meet a murderer's
doom and hang upon a tree. They really took the time to come up with a fucking rhyme for that. Yeah. When John was questioned and he was asked like why have you fled the scene? Like you know, you knew we were looking for you, but you disappeared. He basically was like, because I knew my name would be tarnished and I would be like ridiculed and torn apart by the public and by the media, just like I am being right now. He was cleared and he was released from custody as he
wasn't even in Whitechapel at the time of Annie Chapman's death. Well, I'll do the trick and I believed, I believe he had an alibi for Polly Nichols's death as well. So we're just gonna take a quick at break and when you're back in the room. Elizabeth Stride was born November twenty seventh, eighteen forty three, in Sarah in Starah, Tomlin Head, Sweden. She was the second child of four children. Her parents were Gustaf Erickson and Beta
Carl's daughter. They grew up on a firm which they you know, they firmed mostly vegetables. I believe nice everyone was expected to help out, even from a young age. When Elizabeth was seventeen years old, she moved to start a new life in Gothenburg. Elizabeth got work as a domestic servant for Lara's Olaf's son and his wife. She worked there for a few years and she was very well looked after by her employees. When out of nowhere, she just up and left the job. She moved into a room in a
lodging type house on a street that was known as dangerous. Then in eighteen sixty four, Elizabeth's mother died at the age of fifty four from a respiratory illness. I wonder what pushed her to move away from like a good kind of job. Yeah, it's not like, it's very like she just up and left, do you know what I mean? Like, it was very like what the fuck? Elizabeth was struggling with work, and she had no
other option but to become a sex worker. In Sweden during this time, you could legally register as a sex worker in order for you to you know, go out and solicit sex safely. And also it meant that you had to go and see a doctor every few weeks for checkups to make sure that you're healthy and to make sure that you're not like spreading diseases and stuff around. However, it meant that she wasn't allowed stout work until eleven PM.
During this time, Elizabeth had given birth to a stillborn baby. It's unknown who the father was and not much detail is known other than at some point she had a still birth. Then, in November eighteen sixty five, Elizabeth was removed from the Registry of Sex Workers as she got a job as a domestic servant. She wasn't there long when her employer informed her that they were
expecting a baby. It didn't take long for Elizabeth to lose this job, and it's believed it's because that she couldn't handle watching her employer be pregnant after losing her own child. She then learned that she had inherited a bit of money from her mother's death, and she decided it was time for another new start. In eighteen sixty six, Elizabeth moved to London and began working as a domestic servant in the West End. However, that job didn't last long
and again soon she just up and left. Elizabeth began going to a church in a well known Swedish parish just to be close to people that she felt like she would understand and who would understand her. She was staying in lodging houses and was working as a lodging housekeeper. She was washing bed linen, keeping the place clean. She was I believe, helping in the kitchen nice and this was This was in exchange for a bed and a small wage,
mostly for her bed. Yeah, Elizabeth Metha met a carpenter, John Thomas Droyde, and the pair soon got married March seventh, eighteen sixty nine. They moved into a lodging house together. The couple opened up their own cafe. John was still working as a carpenter and Elizabeth was to run the cafe whilst he was at work. That didn't go so well, so soon they closed that cafe down and opened up another cafe, like down near some docks.
I believe Elizabeth started drinking a lot, and it's believed that when she was supposed to be working and managing their coffee shop, she was actually out drinking. Oh now'll do it, now'll do it. So shockingly, they were unsuccessful and they ended up selling the coffee shop in eighteen seventy seven. And there is a record that shows Elizabeth being entered into a workhouse. This
suggests that she was arrested for something. Because back then, if you were like instead, if you were arrested for like a minor crime, for like something like drunken disorderly, instead of sending you to prison or you know, instead of like you just went into a workhouse and you had to work X amount of hours before like you would be released. In eighteen seventy eight, Elizabeth tried to pull a scam. She claimed that her husband Thomas, had
died in a horrific ship accident. So two ships on the River Thams collided with one another and resulted in one of the boats sinking. Hundreds of people died during this and a collection was put together to raise money for the surviving family members. Okay, Elizabeth claimed that she and her family had been on board, and that her husband and two of her nine children had died on
board the fuck. She was also missing two teeth, and she claimed that while she was trying to get off the boat, someone had accidentally kicked her in the face while panicking trying to save themselves. Elizabeth's husband was still alive, and not only did the couple not have nine children, they in fact had no children. She's brave telling these stories when her husband is literally there to be like, no, that didn't happen. She went on to tell
these stories like for years. Oh she like she got caught, like she was caught out in the lie. But she would still like if anyone asked her, like, oh, what happened to your tea, she'd be like, oh, someone knocked them out while I was on that boat. Oh we all know people like that too. It's like shut up, Oh my god, no, no, you didn't love no mitten. Elizabeth was a good sewer and was trying to make some money this way, but she wasn't
very successful. John and her had moved into a smaller lodging house as the couple were really struggling with money. By Christmas eighteen eighty one, Elizabeth left John and was admitted to Whitechapel Workhouse Infirmary for a bunch iis and exhaustion. After a few days of recovery, she had to then begin working in the workhouse to work off her death for the hospital's day. In eighteen eighty four,
John suddenly passed away. Elizabeth was now back as a sex worker as means to survive, and she was arrested a few times for this and had several and had served some time in different workhouses as different punishments for different things that she was arrested for, drunk and disorderly, sex work, eliciting sex, all those, all those. Elizabeth had started seeing a man, Michael Kidney, and they would start sorry and they would stay at different lodging houses
together. The pair would break up a lot, and Michael eventually became very abusive towards Elizabeth. She even filed assault child of assault charges at some stage against him during the relationship. Okay, yes, she was drinking more than ever and had been brought in front of a judge eight times for drink and disorderly in eighteen eighty seven alone. Okay, all right, yep, yeah,
so those are the times she got caught. Yeah. Then in September eighteen eighty eight, Elizabeth was introduced to a woman who ran a lodging house. The woman had a lot of sympathy for elizabethsit for Elizabeth's situation, and offered her work in the lodging house in exchange for little pay and a bed. The two women got on very well together, and on September twenty eighth,
eighteen eighty eight, the pair went out for a drink together. Then Elizabeth went back to the house to prepare for a night of working the streets. She was seen with several men. That night, she was seen with one man that witnesses described as clerky. Right. He was heard telling Elizabeth quote, you would say anything but your prayers. The pair had been seen
near a shop looking quite happy. Then, at about twelve thirty am, a policeman saw Elizabeth with a man in dark clothing and a deer stocking cat. He was also carrying something wrapped up in almost like a small package. Another witness saw Elizabeth with the same man, but overheard her tell him, no, not tonight, some other night, okay. Then around one am on September thirtieth, eighteen eighty eight, Elizabeth's body was found by buy Deems
Huts in a yard beside a club. He was coming in on I think a horse, and Courtney like saw something on the road and he tried to pick it up because he like thought it was like a pile of like he didn't know what I He was just like, the fuck's this in the middle of the road. So we like tried to lift it up to move it, and it was in fact Elizabeth's body, right. He ran and he ran and he got some help at the club because he was like, there
was a fucking dead body in the middle of the road. Someone come help me please. Elizabeth died from blood blood loss from a sharp incision across her neck. She hadn't been mutilated like the last two victims, and Pills believed that this is because he was interrupted. Yeah, the labor of her ear had been torn and this was from the removal. This was from the removal
of earrings. No thank you. The coroner believed that Elizabeth was pulled to the ground and then her throat was cut left or right, which indicated that the killer was right handed. A witness came forward after the news of Elizabeth's death book. He said that he'd seen he had seen Elizabeth being attacked at around twelve forty five am. He saw a man with dark hair and a mustache pull Elizabeth to the ground. The man was about five foot five.
He noticed he noticed that there was somebody watching them, and he shouted Lipski, Adam, what does that mean. Lipsky was a Jewish man who had
been convicted of murder right a couple of years before. And the witness is like he was either shouting Lypsky at me as in calling me a Jewish murderer, like as an insult because around this time, it's not you don't want to be Jewish right now, and like it's not good, or he was shouting Lipsky at Elizabeth basically telling her I'm going to kill you now, like Lipsky killed right, Like it's unclear, and the witness was kind of like I kind of freaked out and you know, carried on my own way because
I was scared I was going to be attacked. Also, so Michael Kidney, who was like Elizabeth's abusive boyfriend, went into the police station like after her murder, extremely drunk and just casually. It was like if I had been the police officer on Judy that night that like Elizabeth was killed, like I'd have killed myself. Oh okay, interesting words, right, I was like, okay, nice guy, nice guy. Michael was considered a suspect
for a while, but he was eventually cleared. Elizabeth was killed with a different knife than Polly and Annie, and this gives way to the theory that Elizabeth is not in fact a victim of Jack the Ripper. However, that theory doesn't fully like it's just a theory. Most people believe that she is a victim of Jack the Ripper. But he was just interrupted and he could not finish what he was there to do, and this led him extremely unsatisfied.
At one thirty am, on the same night as Elizabeth Stride's death September thirty eight, eighteen eighty eight, a police officer was walking his beat and everything seemingly normal. At one forty four am, minutes later, he was making his loop back to the beach when he saw a woman lying on the ground. It's late at night, he can't really see what's going on. He goes over and he has a look, and this is when September thirty
it became known as the Double Event. Okay, Sam's gonna move you all on a little cliffhanger, and you have to come back next week to find out what happens. I will lie to you the next two murders. It Qulit possibly the worst, the worst. Oh my god. Her arms were cut off, her toe was cut out, her face was really Hope you enjoyed this week's episode. If you did, you can always check out some of our other episodes, like last week when we talked about Emmanuela. Oh
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