Giant Bombcast 12-07-2010

Everyone. It is Tuesday, December the seventh, twenty ten, and you're listening to the Giant Bomb Cast. I'm your host, Ryan Davis, joined by Vinny Caravella. Hi, Jeff Gerstman A date that we'll live in infamy, and Brad Shoemaker. Gentlemen, that's coming. Jeff, how's your shirt? Picking up your shirt? Buch fuzz on it from this? Sweaters, the curtain, pills, pills, I gotta eat the pills. What are you talking about? It's a fuzzy Oh okay, I thought maybe you're you're

experiencing pilling on your shirt. No, no pilling, that's called Yeah. When you get like the little you take your match to it and it goes who what you know? This lost me? Little balls on sweater they stuck on. You never took it. You never took a ladder or a match to somebody that was real pilled up and it just erupts into flame. I have taken a ladder a match to myself when I've been pilled up, and yeah, I don't feel anything. Yeah, it's great. It's like so

you can like you can tell it's burning, but don't care. Just pour gasoline on me that's a fun, fun Martha Stewarty tip from the for the Holidays. When your uncle comes in and his sweater and there's pills on it, for all you hipsters with your ironic, ugly Christmas sweaters, light it up, holiday to remember, light it up, and then all the light use fire to get rid of the pills. It is true. Really, No, we're here. No, I don't wear sweaters. I haven't heard

it. No, it sounds totally like I like it as a tip. I had never heard it, just as Brad. Never actually try that term. But YouTube it or something. I'm sure there's something out there. Turned safe search off. Always turn safe search off. Any We do it all right the weekend. How's your weekend? It's all right. I play an Assassin's Creed Brotherhood. Wait, what did you do? That? Wasn't video games this weekend? Have you been keeping up with your Rosetta Stone. I

did not engage in the Rosetta Stone this weekend. You know, we've now been invited to another language software. We have the people, the people behind the dragon naturally speaking road to me this. Those people are still around. Holy crap, they've been around for like fifteen years. But they're not they're not learning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude, I had it. It's recognition. I don't think it's forigns no, like no, but they're no like text speech, no speech synthesis. Maybe, but the ship man

that's been around since like doctor SPATESO. But I totally remember having a copy of that somehow, somehow, and then being like I found a copy this time, found it in the woods, and then like I can't get this to UNRAR properly, like oh, this one's passwordy only fourteenth one two motherfuck fifty two. Uh, and near killed him and then it totally it wasn't for that horse who knows, and and then it totally never worked properly.

So maybe we should go check in on Dragon Naturally speaking. So they've gotten their act together in the last I feel like that game in a half. Well, when we start our like linguistic wiki database site, then maybe we can devote a little more resources to the source. I don't know how we're supposed to start our Game of the Year deliberations without Dragon the Dragon naturally speaking, So I don't feel comfortable the most recent additions. Yeah, so no,

my Rosetta didn't due diligence, gentlemen. But in the substitution I played some more exercassent screwed in Italian at you haven't playing, continue to play in Italian. I also went to the House a Prime Rib, which to the Hoopah, Yeah, the Hopper Supper, the Hopper Man. I love that place because you go in and then you get the menu. It's like really really just like you're gonna get the fucking prime rib, right, Well, that's all it's on there. So it's like the what size do you want?

That's pretty much it, all of it. Yeah, And so that's what I said. I said, give me the King cut and then I got it and just said why do you do this to yourself? And I said, I don't know why. How much of it is fat? Like that's that's so I've stopped. I used to prime rib is typically what I order anywhere at time. I go to any kind of steak thing anyway, anywhere, and I'm trying to move away from it because you always end up with a pile of fat, a huge pile of fat. He was like,

man, I'm paying so much for this pile of fat. Why don't I just get a pile of fat a better cut of meat. Yeah, I really I like the fat like that. It's delicious with a little bit fat when you're cutting it and stuff. But I don't cream spinish. It's it's why I always end up ordering like just the whatever, the crazy leanest like I always just get a flame and young because like, I don't hate. I eat the whole thing. And it was expensive, but it was

amazing. It's like this this weird little plug of meat. That's that's you don't have to cut around anything, cut around what do you cut? Yeah, cut the meat off and then throw that to the all that grizzle man mazard. Hey we went we went out and got steaks on Friday night with with Adam. No he didn't after the show and what No he didn't. No one got steaks. Well I got a prime rib. That's that's. Oh, I guess you did get he obviously he got the right he got

the fridge tip. I got it. I got a chop man. I got a park chop. Delicious, nice thick park chop. God damn that was that was. That was a good ass pork chop. It was. It was great prime rib. But at the end of it, I was left with all this stuff on the plate. I was like, oh that's right, yeah, leftover pile. That was good. But that was nice meal. So I'm stuffed. Still, you're still feeling the your House Prime Ary. I've only been once and it was it was pretty good. It's

pretty good. It's expensive, but but it's also I don't know, it's not far from the Ruths, and I kind of like the Ruths. Yeah, I don't like Ruths because I feel like it's a little more cheney. Absolutely, like, well I'm here. Oh sure, the House Prime rib is a unique thing. Yeah, and absolutely I think you have to go, but I think I just you prefer I still haven't had a better chop though, than when we went to the the the Presidio Social Club that that

early. I don't even know if you guys know you guys weren't even you guys, weren't even employees were Oh yeah, was at the first Christmas party I was before that. I don't even remember what the occasion was. It was, Hey, isn't this Yeah, but I had, yeah, porch shop to end all pork chops there good and I don't know, like it's one of those things where you you like, Like with the steaks, you wonder like where are they getting their meat? Because I can't find I can't

find something. You gotta manually. Yeah, that's yeah. No, butcher's gonna cut you that kind of chop as a good chop pork chops. I don't like lamb. You don't like lambs. Game for me? Lamb? We get huge on lamb. I'll eat lamb, but I'm not. Well, here's the thing. You gotta cut it with something you got, you gotta mix it with. Yeah. Yeah, the taste is a little like yeah, like a well, and it depends like the us, like with like with the pork chops, Like you can't just go to a store and

buy their lamb. Like you need good like proper farm lamb. You can't just have factory lamb. It's not gonna be any good any places here to raise lamb. So I to eat a shitload of lamb. Take it, take a lot of it, and keep the baby lamb in a little dark box and grind it up. No, we weren't making, we weren't making. Yeah, slips right off the bone, slips right off the bone, no matter how you kill them. I believe me. Yeah, did you ever butcher an animal? I was there when we were doing it, but

no, I never I never had to end one myself. But's yeah, seeing like a pile of sheep bleeding out in the in the absolutely and then and then like the butcher dude rolls up. You know, we don't actually dress it down ourselves or anything. We're just raising him and then slaughtering him and taking taking the meat. But then when the butcher guy shows up, the guy who has the big fucking sharpest shit knife, he just like walks and he walks right up to them and just like and like does his his

cheap whisperer thing, and he like just like gets in their mind. Then walks up and just pulls out the knife. And then right yeah, and then when you let him kick it out and bleed it out because it's it's easier to get the blood out that way. And then he's got his truck and he like has a hook that comes out the back of and he dresses it down right there on the fields right off. Oh yeah, you get

to sit there. That was the most fascinating part, where and stuff and garbage bag takes it with him he's got his he's got his dog that's there, and he does with those. He doesn't like to talk about it. The happiest dog in the world. Let me tell you the dog that that rolls around with the butcher truck that I don't know. Yeah, you would put it all in a big bucket and then it would go in the back of the truck, separate from the sheep obviously, but I feel like they

make people. I'll feel comb hot dogs kill an animal, Like if you if you decide to like commit to eating meat, like you know what, everybody here's do you have your card this year? Did you slaughter something? Kill something? Because I feel like there's a good perspective. You gotta be like, like, I totally agree with the eating meat. I'm down to do it. Because I mostly came up around like dairy operations, so it wasn't a whole lot of like animals getting slaughtered. It was more just like

cow's getting milked and that stuff. But sometimes yeah, something you'd be like, yo, it's time. No, Like when we first started doing that. It was definitely for me one of those like I have to decide, like am I am okay with this? And I'm like, in fact, I am more okay with it now because I've I've been there. I was in the ship. Yeah, slaughtering animals kind of messier than you'd think.

Actually, not bad as you think, because we you know, we had done chickens before that, and that's fun because you get to see him run around afterwards and try and do racist. It's about savage like farm. Thing I ever encountered personally was the weird little like super thick, super tight rubber bands that use a castrated bows or whatever. Oh no, we would use those on on the tails for the sheep and also on the on the balls.

Just the just seeing how super like and then and tight these these bands were imagining that process, you like, and well and then the yeah, the device you have to use to get it on there, No, that's that touch rad You ever butcher something? Nope? Now then squirrel at hunters in my family, a lot of yes, would you yourself? Never never, never engaged in the practice of definitely enjoyed the spoils though. Oh sure, it has a lot of deer hunting going on. Yeah, I'm not

a huge leg venison guy. We had we had venison one time. Sure, speaking speaking of meats, you gotta cut with other meats. Yeah, Nicon Malone would not make a good bird, definitely, But it's one of those things. Do you mix it? Like? So I was, I was having some turkish through this weekend, getting getting some wraps on, some donor on and they do like a you know, a beef and lamb mix.

It's it's really good because you know, you get a little bit of the lamb, a little bit of the flavor on the lamb, but cut it with some something more bob. Anyway, anyway, Brotherhood's done. Put a ball on its screen. Brotherhood, you put it back in the box, back on the shelf. I did castrate it and open put the rubber band arounds ball game. Great experience. I did a little multiplayer and then I got all the single player achievements and I don't think I will be revisiting

it anytime soon. But you don't know about the DLC plans, do I not? No? Okay, no, not really. There's a weird unlock. I know. I know they're gonna release one at least or they're gonna release at least two. Did you know that there are like cheats and stuff that you can enable in that game. I had no idea, like if you one hundred percent certain sequences you can get like Jasmine's skin, and like there's also like turn horses into unicorns or something like that, like weird,

weird stuff that I don't know, weird. I hadn't know. I had no weird. But why would you think that would be in that game? Oh and Jeff, I figured out you were complaining last week about having the ulti year clothes on the entire time. Yeah. Yeah, it was like an X button for like unequipped rather than they have to like go to that thing and unequipped or something like that. Yeah, it's like it's not intuitive, but you have to reload it. I think. I think, well,

it's when you hit it. It's like, hey, any unsafe progress will be which that game says NonStop, like almost everything you do is any I guess it's a good it's good point in any to bring this up like that needs to They need to give you the option to save it when like that stuff happens, because so many games say that, like and you're not really sure what it really means, or like when I don't know when the last time to save because you're just an autosave kind of game. I can't

hard save any time. Just remember last time, the little little so just give me an option that's like, hey, any unsaved progress will not be saved. Appeared and break dance. I can't really remember when that was your auto save icon, because I will remember that every time. Well you, I'll have a different routine for every time it shows up. How was the has to load the thing to save, you know, has to load the

the save icon, and that just slows everything down. Yeah, anyway, brother, you want peace of mind, it's gonna cost you a right, fair enough. Just tell me free to mate free all right, these colors don't run, Just tell me, just say I think you got I think that's I think you got that wrong. Like Muscle, would you like to save shalom peewee? There needs there, There does need to be just like the well, you know, Fable three for all of its other faults.

Whenever you quit, it's like, all right, save and quit. Yeah, give me one of those. Like Borderlands is really good, just says your progress will be saved, Like all right, good cool? That was you know what? Having played that game recently, that was so refreshing to see that, because every single game it's always are you sure you want to quit? All unsaved progress? Will? Why don't you just fucking save it? I have a game just straight up say hey, go ahead, everything's

fine. But even just say, like even if they need to say, like would you like to save it from the last checkpoint or like would you like to save it from the start of this level, because I sometimes they just have no idea, Like fuck, I don't know. I collected two flags since I think I saved. You save everything because I don't know when you save. Yeah. In Assassin's Creed, I specifically became super aware of whenever the little icon was up because of Because of those issues, I never

lost any progress nothing. I think it saves all the time, but I would. I would to make sure. I would jump out of the animals because I'm like, man needs to save now, right, Like sometimes I don't know when it's loading or saving because I think it's a similar icon. Yeah, maybe I'm wrong. Anyway, Great, when it's loading, you're in like fun land alternate space. But it's also a thing too, like the loading in that game is fun. I always take on my sword to

throw it like I don't know, ye throw my sword? Do they still do the like dick around and yeah, totally just likes run around jump. I don't like mortgage than spend more time digging around in computer land in this game than you do in the other two. The yeah, well, I mean there's whole levels, there's the whole virtual thing where you just they just made it levels that exist in computers. Themissions, yesions, Well, let me ask you. Did you say you got all of the multiplayer achievements?

No single player. I accidentally got like one multiplayer achievement, which actually was worse than not getting any of them, because it was I got the you got the hay Stack achievement for multiplayer, the one that I got on p S three during T and T last week. So I was like, fuck, I got I finally did the thing and got it, but not not not on your profile pile out, not on the system that I have all my points on. So I like, shit, my multiplayer is interesting.

Uh, it's interesting. It is, it's interesting, and it's profoundly flawed, like I profoundly it's it's it has serious issues with priority about certain actions. Yes, uh, and some of those priorities can make it frustrating, can make it seem kind of unfair, like fuck I pressed the button or I was totally getting away. Yeah, And it might just be a sense of like perception, or it could just be that you know, it's favoring this act a whole lot more than this other one. Could be la,

it could be Yeah, it could be issues. I mean, I think that's probably what it is. Is like in cases where it doesn't know because of lag, it's favoring one thing more than another. I say, it's definitely like call of duty knife syndrome or call of duty kill cam syndrome of like, dude, that's totally not what I saw what this was happening.

The network saw something different than what that one of the clients did. I kind of do wish that they gave you a little bit of an opportunity to escape an assassination once you know the dude is about to assassinate you, Like if you can get like an ex prompt real quick and you hit it, and then it might go back and forth for like a second, Like it does have that whole B button humiliated thing. But that's but that's tough. The timing on. It is really tough. Once you get the smoke bomb,

you can break that. I feel like that really opens. Like I was, I was humiliating a lot of dudes after I unlocked that and started figuring out how to use it. Like those Yeah, those those perks or whatever they call them, those those extra abilities, like I thinks they make then, Yeah, they make a huge difference. But yeah, I think they can. I think that the multiplayer is interesting, as you said, and I think that it has potential to be expanded on in the future.

Yeah, And like the way they kind of capture at least some of the single player and that multiplayer. I can't imagine it was an easy task and I feel like it we we kind of discussed the sum during T and T last week, but I feel like it has a it has a tone that no other multiplayer game does as far as deliberate, like the just the yeah, the the kind of tension that it creates, and the speed that it operates on, and just kind of the you know, the secular dynamic of

it all. Like you know, every every game is you're hunting someone who's hunting someone who's hunting someone, but it's never this specific yeah, well do they ask you, do you guys think this thing has staying power the multiplayer or like will it be in the next iteration. Let's say a person were to play through the first two assassind three games. I think people the next like say, two months, people will still be playing. Yeah, I think so. I think so. I think so on the off chance that

it's dead, just like you can't even get a game going. Yeah, if a person works here, get Brotherhood and just play the single player and then never touch it again, would that still the satisfactory? Put about thirty two hours and really single players, so you could pretend this multiplayers not even there and this game is still awesome. Absolutely, Okay, Yeah, that's

cool. That's all I needed to hear. I don't know if you'd kind of thing is is like the multiplayer At a point it's like, oh, bonus, because I already got a full on, like really good, because I feel like that is a legitimate concern. It's probably gonna take me like two or three months to get through that other stuff and and get this. But I would also say it's probably your best interest to take a break after Assassin's Screed two before jumping into like one to two is such a lape,

but two to Brotherhood is my more incremental. Yeah, like you're in the scene, like you might get a little burned out, especially if you're trying to everything. Sure, well, I found like when I played through Uncharted two, I hadn't played Uncharted one and I was gonna review Uncharted two, so I literally played them back to back, Like I finished Uncharted one on

like Saturday morning and cracked into two in that afternoon. Like you can really really appreciate the contrast and the improvement, like when you have them run up and yeah, so I would be I would love to hear, you know, get back to me when you go from Creed one. That's the thing you guys keep telling me not to play one, Like that's kind of why I want to, Like I want to see in start relief, like exactly what I think you should play one, but not at the cost of of

never playing Brotherhood. Like if you if you're never gonna play one because it's so tedious to get through, I feel like you should get just jump into two. Oh yeah, I don't think you need to finish Assassin's Creed in Brotherhood or the first Assassin creed Man there are I don't think I could go back, and I love that series. I don't think I could play one again. Really Like they just add so many things and brother hood that makes

the game just I mean, it gets really monomous. It's one of the defining characteristics of the first one is there's like three things you like a third of the way through it. Okay, then you played that three years. I couldn't get through it, then you're good. If it doesn't, it doesn't change. I can't even remember one. But if you can, if you can kind of critical path and strong arm your way to the end of one, like you want to do it just for the story. Don't do

this, don't do the side missions. Don't do that. People who through the story as fast as possible, don't even look at flags, just go uh because yeah, they made smart moves and the iterations of that series. So so that was the only thing that I feel like they've kind of lost along the way, and one of the things that I really enjoyed about the first one. I guess they still kind of have it. It's it's just that they've they've loosened up so many of the restrictions like they've they've made it.

They've made that game a lot more stealth optional than initially was. And I just remember like, because you had your like like ten fifteen targets whoever, it was like, you have to kill these dudes to the first one to go yeah, in the very first one. So but it's like like they're these specific guys that are you know, that are relevant to the story or whatever, and they have their stronghold or fucking whatever it was. I

really enjoyed that. I enjoyed like because they had these kind of drawn out like you know, you would stalk them and find them and then but I blew every one of those Oh they ever stealth to kill the dude, something would happen. Fuck all right, just get running, all right, better get them, Yeah, get out of here. And I guess yeah, I guess, Like the elements from that are still in it, but it's they've made it very commonplace like if now it's just like, oh, there's

the message and then the kills. Yeah, the kills that you need to do for story purposes. They are not as specific with how they wanted. Like remember like the lengthy conversations that all tyear would have with the dying person and all this profound ship that everyone was always too had that I guess a little a little more some of that. This one's more just like rest in peace. Yeah, yeah, which is all right, because you're killing a

lot of dudes and rescue. It's like two brother Brotherhood, You're just you're mowing guys down it. Yeah, I guess Brotherhood is so much more about volume. Plus you've got even with the combat, you've got a gun, you've got you've got poison dagger, like, you've got a crossbow. You've got assassins you can call. You up to a dozen assassins that you can call, and like, so you even never even have to touch the dude. You're just like I was picking off dudes and calling assassins. By the

time I had all my assassins, I was just constantly using that. So so like on my on my retail playthrough of Brotherhood, I as soon as I basically got just as far in the story stuff as I needed to to unlock the guild. Yeah, and then just like paid no tangented story stuff for several hours, and it was just like build up all the guys just yeah, just just build up my guild so that I had nothing, but like you know, level ten or whatever level stab assassins. I will say

this about Brotherhood. They do a poor job of isolating you into the areas that only you can visit. Like they show stuff on the map that you can't get to because there's areas are locked off. Yeah, and I really didn't like that, like Borgia towers and stuff like, yeah, oh, can I open that up? Like I thought it was odd because it seems like they are only locking off sections that have Borgia towers in them. Yeah, And I definitely was like of a mindset of like I'm just I just

want to go through and knock at all towers. I'm kind of waste of time to go check it out and be like, oh, there's a fucking false wall there. Yeah, like the last I only ran into it, Like there's the last three of all the Borgia towers that you can get. They're kind of on the outskirts. There's like on the west and kind of southern sides. Southern sides. But I feel like we've talked about Brotherhood a lot, but you've but you're done with it. But I'm done with it.

And that was It was a lot of fun. And I've got a stack of games now that I'm excited to dive into. You've had a stack of games. I know what's next. I think I go through Enslaved, worked down the pile. Enslaved is fairly high in my in my similar pile. Yeah, it's getting on. I don't know. People talk a lot of a lot of good good smack about that game. Yeah, people say good things, positive smack, positive smack. I don't know. I played, I played. I played a couple of hours of it, and I

thought the controls were a little rough bread, They're a little unwieldy. They're like they're very animation heavy. Yeah, we're just they're they're not what you'd be expecting, especially coming out of something Assassin like Assassin's Creed, where the weird things like I don't know, pushing A to drop down ledges and jump off of ledges instead of like pushing B, which is like weird, weird things that just seems strange. I mean, it's not as responsible to some

games, but it doesn't have to be. It doesn't require that of you necessarily. It's that story. People keep saying, it's really the story and wait for knock, it's really the characters. I mean, wait, wait for the character to develop, you know, it's that's that's the strength of the story is an old story monkey. I mean I've seen Dragon Ball, I know what? Yeah, you know you know then he's Goku. You're already there. This is easy, uh, Flying Cloud. The opening sequence

is pretty uh yeah, that's it. Brotherhood again, a lot of brother stuff to play. So Fantastics are you? Are you gonna finish Dead Rising too? Yes? Ever, I'm gonna finish that stack. The Stack will get finished, alright, Saboteur will be done. Oh my god, what are you doing? Dante's Inferno will go down at least save the nine games until after nine eleven. Yeah, I don't know what I'm gonna play during the winter break. Cataclism, I'm done. You're gonna get back into Wow

I am? I think? I am seriously not. I mean, I was never in too deep, so I'm thinking I might check it out. What's your what's your guy at? Do you have a guy? I don't know. He's a warlock who's like near sixty Okay, so but I want I'm gonna starting new character I spend a fair amount of time playing Wow, and I never got out of my fifties. I thought you never got out of like your thirties. No I did. I did, eventually, I think I quit it fifty six, Yes, I yes, you did.

I remember. I have vivid memories of those heady days. Right, that's finally where I am, right, fifties that closing in on sixty. Oh man, I hit the outlands and that's as far as I got, like going through there. And you have to be fifty to get in there, right, expansion, Yeah, you have to be fifty eight. No, yeah, you have fifty eight I think to get into Burninger Sade. But

that also takes like ten minutes now apparently. Yes, yeah, so yeah, Well it's worth my money, like the monthly to just check out the starting zones because there's always super fun. So I just I'll pay my what is it still fifteen bucks a month? Right? Yeah? And you don't have to pay for the new starting zones. You have to pay for the new characters, right, because the whole world is cataclyzed, right, Yes, you have to. You have to buy the expansion to make one of

the new characters. I don't know if they lock you out of those zones without the expansion, though I would hope that you could at least go there, you can't. I don't know. Anyway, I want to check it out. I think I think Blizzard does a great job with their early game stuff, and a lot of people would argue they do a great job throughout the whole thing. So I've never seen the lakes Orland's got a big fat

fucking hole in the middle of Yeah. Kind we saw some of that stuff from the beta and it looks crazy does there's monsters and storm winds, crazy cultists have taken over. That's no good. So maybe I'll check that out over over winter brick fantastic and don't Yeah, well, they're redesigning sector spaces star in Star Trek Online. Hows that going? I don't know. I

wouldn't believe it. Saw picture. I saw a picture the redesigning sector space to look a little bit more like space, So that's not so much like a grid, yeah, which I don't know. I kind of liked the grid. And you can get in there anytime you want, that's right, and they're waiting for me whenever I needed. Sector space is not what was wrong with Star Trek Online. No, no, that was that was not the thing. It was like, okay, everybody, the stillar cartography section

of the game was not the broken bart about Star Trek Online. So how was your weekend rating in Star Trek Online? Jeff, excuse great. No, I don't know. I don't think. I actually don't think I played any games over the last week. I'm sitting here trying to think. I don't played some nailed for that you were, I know you were sick. That was just over the weekend. So I definitely I did not play any games over the weekend. Tell me about being sick this weekend. You take

some Nike will I did? Uh? Yeah, I started feeling bad when we're driving home on Friday night, and then and then sure enough, Yeah, I don't know. It's all been Uh, it's all been sinus stuff. Nothing really too major beyond that, just kind of feeling crappy. So it's been laying a low, drinking a lot of fluids, soup. It seemed like it was. It seemed like it was hitting everyone this weekend. I was getting scared because I was in close proximity to people who would get

I don't think we're out of the woods yet. No, definitely not. No. I am As of Sunday, I was convinced that I'm incubating right now, maybe in you right now. I'm pretty sure it's in me. Yeah, I'm just waiting for it to expose itself, and I'm like, I'm sick now it's in you, damn all right. It's that that's the worst feeling when it dawns on you and there's like thirty minutes of denial,

No, this is not happening. Maybe take some sick, but it's even just like it's just that little that twinge up in the sinus, just like you swallow once you go swallow, was a little sharp. I like, yeah, the scratch in the back of a little bit, a little sores around there, Like I have been fucking exhausted today, God damn it.

You know when that happened to me last on your way to Tokyo the day of the GSL finals, literally like six hours before the finals, I was like, the fun I am getting sick, Like perfect storm of factors going on there. Well, flying to Tokyo, that's a good way to get sick, I don't or right, indeed, whatever Tokyo, Korea. Yeah, yeah, I guess I played some of the Marvel pinball tables that are coming out this week. You guess it might have happened. I know that

that happened. Yeah, yeah, we did that quick. Look you have achievements. Something happened with that. Yeah, those are those are pretty good tables. Uh. It's kind of weird how they're doing that where it's just like a it's a download for three sixty as a as a pinball effects to add on, but on PS and it's going to be its own standalone things. Pinball Fix exists on platforms other than I feel like that's a PC thing too, right, No, no, it's it's just three six. Yeah.

They have Zen Pinball on on the PlayStation network. Sit someone from Zen down and like, what the fuck is up with all of your brands, because like they have like eighteen different mini golf things like in the same the same fashion. They're local m yeah, we can go. Well is that the name of the company, Zen Studios? Yeah, right right, yeah, they're yeah, we get him in here. I always assumed that they

were European. Yeah, I would make the same assumption, but no, especially because some of the voice stuff in some of those tables and pinball X one tables. I mean, just because their base here doesn't mean a good point. Maybe I should say some some element of their businesses based here. I'm not sure that the whole company is. How are those don't start in fighting them here? For God's sake? They're pretty good. Uh yeah,

I don't know, they're pretty good. The Blade table, I think it's probably the best of the four because it has a day night cycle, which is crazy. What happens at night? Vampires come out, vampires happen that Dracula turns into a disco tech. Oh that's pretty cool. Yeah, I can see that big old, big old disco ball just because it comes down. Has he has he been incarcerated yet? Yes? I think it's this with this week or last week or something he finally had to report. Is

he he's convicted? Yeah, and all this stuff Wesley snips gone to law jail. It's the worst. They say, what jail he's going to? Is it like the security or some to San Quentin. I don't know, he knows all that martial arts stuff. Whatever. They're not gonna put him in general. No, I mean that's that's the thing that always annoys me whenever it's like, you know, the celebrity's going to jails, like they're not fucking they're not going to like shitty, hardcore bad jail. They're going

to like soft ass jail. What is it? I wouldn't make that assumption. What is it the grants them that accommodation a good lawyer, what they don't want him even killed in jail? Yeah, is that really the concern. I'm sure it's a big serbants probably general. Yeah, it's gonna make everyone act all crazy, all crazier than they would normally, Like if you're a convict and you've got it your ship right, because this is jail talk, and then you you see Wesley Snipes there and you go, I'm gonna

kill Wesley Snipes unless you get me out of here. And then not even that, just like I'm gonna kill him to up my stake in this prison so that people don't fuck with me because they know I murdered Wesley Snipes. Also, you know how many people want to call me past act now motherfucker act now. So yeah, it's it's not just for these celebrity's sake, But you know but I don't not to say that being is anything to scoff at, but it's still it's not. I don't know. I don't know.

It's not gonna be blood and blood out for Wesley Snips. I would love to watch Wesley Snipes and a remake of blood and blood Out. I think I didn't I read the little way and went in the hole. He ended up in solitary for a week or two. Sound like fun, yeah, but solitary. Yeah. I always wondered that, Like, I know, I know, probably it's probably not good. I've read some first had sounds like the worst thing, Like is the sensory deprivation? Is that the

worst car? Because I don't mind being by myself for long periods of time, I ust to find something about sensory deprivation to be really intriguing. I don't know, Like you think you just couldn't sleep it off, just like I don't know I'm gonna sleep for a couple of days. I think you just go crazy. You'd wake up and not know if it was day or night. You wouldn't know. Yeah, I don't know. I wouldn't know when to sleep, But eventually you wake up. So that's kind of how

I was this weekend. Yeah, I don't know, Like I spent a lot of time, just kind of like on Lockdown, ripping a bunch of DVDs and TV shows and stuff to watch them a boxy box. What's been real easy to lose your your day your day night cycle here lately. Yeah, just because of the weather. Yeah, weather, it's been dark all day. Yeah, it's been it's been dark. Bress shoemaker, Hey, maybe you could save us from this, the dull drums, this low key

down ass podcast. Video games, Yeah, video game for fuck you tell me about it? Played me some Viva God damn Panada. Oh you would't got the ninety nine cent deal nine nine cents for the games to win those live version That's right, it was bought it. It was a dollar. I did too, dollars, the original, not the newer one on games Winners, Games Winners Lives running weekend deal. I gotta I gotta hand it. I gotta hand at the Microsoft, like they needed a way to get

some eyes on this relaunch of their store. Yeah, they figured it out. Well they all games for a dollar. Well, and yeah, it was like was it like the original BioShock was like five bucks. A couple of weeks ago, that one was a dollar. I bought that one too. Achievements for the Yeah, Banda has separate achievements PC version of black Light Tango down. Yeah, that one was the next day. So what they've been doing a day by day it's just like every day a new game for

for a dollar. And what's the client? Like, what how do you how do you get the games? Wind? It's not even a client, it's just good there is a client client for buying stuff. But suff I hadn't. They've centralized all that stuff. They finally actually have these standalone games for Windows clients like it used to be for a while. But it used to be that it was it was just built into games, Like there was no standalone You couldn't just launch a client and like check your messages or anything

like that. So transactions happen on the web. No, with this new store. But then they like create a save file that then launches the games for Windows clients. Well I did on what okay? Yeah, when I click download on the receipt page, it literally downloaded the installer for the client and I ran that. Well, actually I had installed already, so I just logged into it, and then it was like you have Tinker and Viva Pinata like alright, and so you can't run the game outside of the client.

Well you can't. You run it just from a shortcut. Okay, it's I think it's DRM free. Actually that sounds really weird. But you don't have to pre launch it. But I mean it's not really Darren free because it checks back against That's true. You do have an activation and all that stuff. Yeah, but you don't have to run the client at all once it's installed. Okay, well not separately, but you are always running the games for Windows times. Whenever you are running against Windows game, I

guess I should refer to like the download manager. Yeah, it's not like with Steam war. I got a lot of Steam and then I gotta go to my game. It's like I just start Viva Pinata and it's like you like from the start, like a game before two thousand and eight. Yes, yes, okay, old school, yes, yes, before Steam Yeah, come out four. It's like it's lunched with half too. I mean they were testing it with just Counterstrike before that. Yeah, well are you

sure? Actually it was the first thing I ever used the first thing was Counterstrick was Half Life Yeah. I would swear that it launched like the night that Half Life two came out, because I remember it didn't work and nobody could play Half Life two and they were going, eight fucking shit. Maybe it's just got really popular for a half Life two. I think that's when it when it got good was when Half Live two came out. Distinctly remember it being terrible. I mean like in the wake of Half Life two,

I think he got good. But that's that's when they made it a full thing. I think before that they were like, hey, you can just download counter Strike out of this thing, and I do all the stuff. But though the community stuff maybe rolled out around the time of of Half Life two, yeah right, because they didn't have their store up at that, because I remember going like, oh yeah, I'll try out this Counterstrike thing. Oh I gotta download this fucking whatever I could be. I'm not creating

some separate crazy account. I remember when you didn't like Steam? Yeah, yes, now I love Like who doesn't want everything to be Steam slides? Microsoft turning that? So how is your games from Windows? Dude? Man? I playing that again? Does it like look better? Makes me yeah, dramatically, Well, yeah, not dramatically. It still looks basically the same, just higher res and like solid sixty frames a second. But playing it with a mouse sure is preferable to playing it with a controller. I

bet that game seems like it would yeah, translate well to amuse. But it just makes you sad that that will never happen again. Another one of those will never ever get made. Yeah, that's right, it's sad. Two thousand and two Steam Client really yeah, oh wow. It made available for Downlod two thousand two during the beta period for Countertrick one point six at the time. Well, here's the thing is is, like at the time, I don't think it was recognizable as Steam as we like. This was

their patch delivery system. It was there, like what they used to keep versions, server browser like that sort of stuff. It also necessarily even a payment and like I don't know that. I don't think they had a store or anything like that. It was it was basically to stop people from hacking Counterstrike and to deliver patches so that everyone had you know, version control anything else. Bradley h played through the first act of Vanquish. How are you

feeling about Vanquish. It's fun. It was just fun to play. It's just well, it's a game. It's one of those like like I have, we have no aspirations to go beyond our format. We're just gonna be a fun ass crazy game. Want to shoot some robots and occasionally dudes and robot suits? Do you kind of want to be a robot? Do you want to have rocket legs? I'm okay with that. Do you like a gun that is all guns? I wish I really wish that game highlighted your

sweet gun. Yeah. I don't know what you can do with it. Really. The changes the gameplay because like you can't have instant weapon switch, you know, like for balance reason. Well I mean I just I just mean, like, you know, I would deliver at least swing the camera around to watch the transformation process because it looks so awesome. I found myself

between battles just switching weapons. But you never but like when you're actually playing, you never said unless you unless you deliberately go out of your way to switch and look at it and go, oh, this looks awesome. That's true. But it's such a fast paced game, like it's just you know what it should have had it should have had like a Michael Bay style,

like non optional circular camera sweep every time you switched weapons every time. Every time, it's just you know, just a pop up window that's a close up of the guy. You could do like a comic style like picture and picture, like a little frame stamps up. Yeah, that's a good idea, think that. Jeff said, sure, that's a fun game. I'm playing it on hard because so many people harped on it being short and or

easy. Hard, it is pretty hard. It took me most. It took me off and on playing it on most of the afternoon to get through the first acts. You would have been done with the game by then. Yeah, yeah, so maybe maybe you should have played it on normal because you still have a shitload of games to play as well. It's true, but it's fun on our on hard. It's not like gruelingly frustratingly hard. It's just like a nice, really stiff challenge. Yeah it's it's it's kind

of fun that way, and I'm digging it. But I felt like it gave a pretty good, pretty good challenge on normal too. Yeah, yeah, I can see it. I just I didn't want to blaze through it. Sure, so there's a lot more points. It's true that there's a lot more points. But it was one of those things where I played through it on normal and then I was like, I think the last thing I want to do right now is this thing right back up and start playing it

on fucking hard. I probably wouldn't go back through it immediately. So it's like one hundred and seventy five extra. Each act or whatever has has points associated for each difficulty level. I guess that's pretty much it. I watched a whole ton of the current GSL season, all caught up on that. There's exciting stuff going on. There really are people playing StarCraft, yes, playing the ship out of it. Uh my minor's GSL spoilers to follow,

I suppose, so skip ahead if you care. A foreigner has made it to the top eight. That's a big deal. That's a big deal. Liquid General is one of the guys I interviewed. Oh yeah at the Ogs House. Yeah, in one video in the we visit the Ogs supposed to plug it. Yeah, go watch that video. It's plug your video. I think it's good. I haven't watched it. I hope it's good.

Yeah, yeah, I should. Yeah, there's a it's pretty big deal, like this is the furthest a foreigner has gotten in any Korean tournament for StarCraft two controversial, so it's a big deal. And he is laying waste like he's doing really well. So it's what fashion is pretty exciting? What's that? Who does he use marines? Not thrilled about? But yeah. Uh and there's a bunch of prodousts in the top eight as well, So exciting times for the GSL. This guy's playing StarCraft. Yeah, imagine that

bunch of Koreans coming complaining. Are you play on the public test? Realm? No, I'll just play that stuff when it happens, when it will enhance my ladder rank. All right, well, let me tell you about a couple of games, guys. Let me tell you about Disney Epic Mickey please, it's not very good. That's a shame, shame, I agree, Where's it'll fall down? It's just not very good. It's just not

a very good game. It feels. Uh it is a three D platform, or it is a mascot driven three D platform, or the likes of which you're probably already very familiar with. You know, you don't necessarily mean that as a compliment, right, I don't mean it is as one way or the other. I'm just saying like, like, I think one of the first mistakes they made with that game was making it sound like it was

gonna be revelatory in any way. Like the name Epic Mickey, it just completely oversells that game because it is it just is not everything about the game place. So they rename it to all right, this should name it's standard bearing Mickey, because it's just like like yep and sixty four controller Mickey.

Oh, just the Yeah, it has like N sixty four like camera issues with the platforming where it's like, well, I can't fucking see the thing that I need to jump to, and you literally won't let me move the camera in the directions so that I can. So I'm just gonna have to make these blind jumps, like just a lot of a lot of shit like that. Platforms only have one analog stick, right, you use the D pad to move the thing, which again it's like it's one of those kind

of like, well, we didn't really make it for the platform. So here this is a use the button. Here, here's a shitty way to get around that. It would it be better on like the Classic Controller or say the three, but it still wouldn't be a great game. And and and like the whole kind of visual aesthetic of the game, it just feels like third generation Tim Burton American McGee right angles are oppressive, kind of like everything's dark and dingy, And yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't

want to care for that game. How's the painting and the thinning. It's it's a gameplay mechanic, it's not. There was one or two occasions where I was like, Okay, that's kind of a clever use of that, but it's just sort of like, there's not a path there. I wonder how I'll get there. Oh look I made a path there. Or there's hidden shit somewhere in this world. You gotta thin random spots to try and

figure it out. Do you feel like it's not It's not like they don't commit to that concept as far as like the how how it affects the gameplay and even like you use that in combat as well, But it's just it's

just not very compelling. I think. I think the only thing about that game that that really warrants much much attention is uh, you know, it's it's implementation of some of the Disney stuff specifically, like I'm fairly knowledgeable about that, and there was some some good shouts and kind of like, oh, that's a pretty subtle thing for them to bust out like this. But I think you would have to already have that appreciation built in to really get

that. Is there some kind of morality meter thing going on? Kind of does make you grow horns if you play No, it's yeah, it's like that stuff doesn't even like there is some like if you make the guys good, then people will like you more, and Oswald the rabbit will say, hey, you know good good jobs. Doesn't talk. No one talks. It's just it doesn't have viney. I think you said like I would.

The one thing I would expect from this is that Disney level of polish, like that that kind of Disney game, right, it is put the Disney interactive game. It just doesn't it doesn't have any of that. It's just it's, yeah, that's unfortunate. It's not the Aladdin I was looking for. No, it's not. It is not more this is Aladdin moved. It is it is a Laddin of no size or shape. Yeah, it was. It's gonna I'm just gonna stick to Castle Illusion. Then a partial

to the Magical Quest on the Suprenios, Yeah you would, Yeah. Where Just how do we feel about mickey Mania. I remember that one. It's funny. No, it was the it was for the Genesis Micky Mania. I'm pretty sure it was. It's Castle Illusion in World of Illusion, h Mickey Mouse, Magical Quests, Magical Quests, mickey Mania Mania. What was that? That was for the ses mash three puzzle game? I feel like Disney has had a some good games for sure, particular also known as Mickey's

Wild Adventure on the PlayStation. I don't know two D thing. Uh, that's I was actually kind of for some reason looking forward, there are there are moments. There are there admittedly moments, and they do some stuff thematically. That's that's kind of interesting. It's just that playing that game is no

kind of fun. What is the the roster? Like? I mean, is this literally a Kingdom Hearts scenario of like every major character of every no major character, Well, they kind of they squeeze them in there in a weird way. Like even trying to explain what this game is about is just a fucking chore because it's like Mickey's in his house and then he goes like

a mirror in his house turns. Yeah, like watching the intro, you remember the Yeah, there's there's this lengthy thing where there's this he goes through a mirror and then he ends up in this wizard's house. And then this wizard is using paint and fair to create this world on his art desk or whatever warmer and then yeah, he's making war hammer miniatures and then he leaves. Then Mickey fucks it up, and then Mickey goes back and then Mickey

gets sucked into the like like fifty years later or something. Yeah, like yeah, fifty years and time passes, and then Mickey gets sucked back through the mirror and then into the paintings. So it's well, he had fucked it up and like released the shadow or something. Right, it's the thing from Fable has invaded dark Mickey shows up. And then does he actually show

up as I would I wouldn't doubt it. Well, like that's why he's That's why Mickey is like drooping stuff the entire time, is that he's got some of the thing in him and the things got somes Mickey make he goes both ways. What I'm trying to say here is many in it. I would just expect like like voice, like voice work, like having voice work for the characters. How do they not at least get sound alikes? If not, I mean you, I guess you could see him not getting like

the actual working actors that usually prefer. Apparently, and I learned this and at a certain point, like I can't hold the game responsible for this, but also kind of can't excuse it. It doesn't it's not relevant to the product. Really, the guy who normally doesn't make him Mouse died like yeah, but right around the time that they were starting to like do which is

a terrible shame. But there have to be a lot of There have to be people out there who do good Mickey Mouse voices or any of the characters in this. Sure, I'm not trying to belittle that man or his death, but like, I mean, they found a good Marty McFly, Like, there's got to be a good Mickey Mouse. I have to assume that guy has not had not been doing Mickey Mouse up until his death, and at some point I'd passed the Torch to somebody. I'm certain. I'm certain

there is a vast network of Mickey Mouse. Is Mickey Mickey's. Disney has at their even Yeah. So yeah, so it's just it. It doesn't have the Yeah, the platforming isn't that interesting. There's some stuff about the story and how they kind of in a way framed like Mickey Mouse as the bad guy is is kind of interesting. Which he he is, isn't he

from that introm Yeah? And this he absolutely like he is a bad guy, comes in there and he fucks everything up in this world and he's you know, totally flagrant about his actions, and then he wanders off and you know, not not you know, he is not deliberately he doesn't know that he's fucking up an entire this whole world and all this bad stuff is happening. We do, but yeah, no, everyone's a hero in their own story, right, And I feel like I need to go watch like the

Disney Christmas Carol just to wash away this conversation. Like I don't even play the game, but I feel bad. So that's that's kind of there is there's like one level that takes place. Okay, remember what it's called now Mickey Junk Mountain. It's it's nothing, you know, where he discovers the epic Mickey It's no, it's it's nothing, but like but like see if you can get to the top of Mickey's Jung Mountain and it's it's all it's

all Mickey Mouse trash. It's all like detritus from Mickey Mouse from fifty years of Mickey Mouse merchandizing. Wow, it's like, yeah, it's absolutely Warrespector's commentary on kind of dark, but it's also you know, what's also bullshit because Epic Mickey is a piece of Mickey Mouse advertising is on there, so what no, not not quite that level of self awareness, but yeah,

yeah, Epic Mickey Uh, disappointing. It's unfortunate real quick. Just but also I feel like a victim of the PR cycle leading up to it.

If that game had just come out, it could have been like, oh, it's you know, there's some interesting stuff that they do here with is like the gameplay is not great, but you know there's this part and but like you're like saying, like, you know, Warren Spector, you know, classic designer, revered designer, coming back after the lengthy absence and here's gonna be his well, it was it was the dark Mickey like the kind of adults. I think it's gonna be like the serious Mickey Mouse game.

That's the part that seems disappointing to me. It's like there's nothing there for adults. It's not good for kids. It's not it's not good enough for adults. How's the two D platform me just because they showed a level of that at E three increasingly annoying because it's they use it as as the basically like the portal between one area and another. So the game is basically laid out like Disneyland. Like there's the entrance area, so like literally the buildings

at Disneyland are there. There's the main street, but but everything's gone dark. So they call it mean streets. And they have alternate names of all of like the you know, the various discreet lands of Disneyland and Tomorrowland, and you'll go to Tomorrowland like brow because Bone Marrow is scary rights what they call it. It's not called that. It's it's Frontier World, the World of Tomorrow. I think it's I can't remember what a lot of them,

A lot of them are super lazy, but they are identifiable. Actually, the Tomorrowland level is where one of the cooler things happens, Space involving Tron and Space Mountain, Space Mountain in it. Yeah, ever tell you they turn the lights on inside Space Mountain because everyone has told that story and it looks crazy. There's a rail this close to your face if you turned, if you if you turned your face slightly to the left and will lose your

nose. It was weird because the weird part was the scalp that was just hanging off. That was kind of freaking. That's just the janitors collectos. Oh okay, just pin them up there. They never see them. Oh god, the lights are on. No, the janitors are actually just natives from the Jungle Cruise scalps. So there's like seventeen year old out of work kids from Florida, I guess California here, not out of work, they're janitors. Disneyland is where disney World is, where it's at. Yeah right,

I've never been to Disneyland. I've never been to disney World. Yeah, we had we had this conversation in the Isn't there some big soda machine with a bunch of different flavors of soda in Epcot Center that I would be interested in. Well, it's it's they have like you can. We could also go to Atlanta and see one of those, so let's go to Woodland. I also got a length the email from someone who lived in Atlanta and talking talking all about the heyday of Freaknicks. So great, multiple things to

do it. What's the what's the golf ball at Epcot Center. What's the actual name of the ride? Yeah, inside the golf Ball. Yeah, it's uh like the history of the world, the history of you dude. Yeah, like they show like like the Gutenberg printing press and all that stuff like. That was my favorite ride at disney World. That's a weird one too, because it because you learned stuff well, because they really take you around way longer than you think you could possibly go inside that little ball.

Yeah, like you'd thing for a long time fitted in there, you're basically like traveling through the history of information. The geodesic dome thing. That's I always like the Epcot Center, not the pavilions, but more like the future stuff that technology. Yeah, and I've never I've just never been to the state of Florida. So I consider that a big win. But that's the

thing generally speaking. Now, I've been in waffle House outside of Florida, so really, Disney World is the only thing they have in Florida that they don't have and the and again even that, like I feel like I would rather go to Tokyo to get the big ass Disney World is not really it's almost like the Vatican. It's like a police state inside of Florida, spet to which they just had their first murder in Celebration Florida, which is the

Disney run like fake suburbs. You guys know about Celebration Florida, is that where it was. It's like this twelve thousand person community that they built to basically be like the fifties idealized suburban America. Wait, what for a what the hell? It's it's it's it's like they it's it is. The entire thing is owned lock and key by Disney the hell, like like Urbline is

owned by the Urviline Corporation or whatever. I think. It's it's like more than that, like they handle like there is not eight like Disney handles the power and the mail and like shit like that. So it's Yeah, it's crazy. It sounds like the worst kind of like what's it called the planning committee? The what was the thing you have to agree to before you can put like a beast called homeowners? Yeah, it's like having the worst homeowners

association. Impossible. Yeah, absolutely absolutely. Apparently it's been around for ten fifteen years or something. They had the first murder murder had murder intense, most foul. Yes, murder most foul, and sounds like the next game coming out of Disney Interactive. I would write a mystery novel about a murder in celebration unsolved. No, it's a mystery. You find a big white glove with four figures. There's a killer on the loose. I'm saying that

a killer walks among us in celebration Florida. On high school, I wanted to go to celebrations so bad. It's been around that long, you said twelve years. I mean I remember senior high school being completely obsessed with celebration Florida, and they were like opening it up around then. I should not make light of murders somebody, if somebody really has been killed, someone really is I'm not, but we can make a little bit of light at that.

It's okay, it's just Florida all the time. I'm just surprised that it got out. I'm sorry they did. You know you've heard about this murder State Information Control. Ye didn't kick it. Like all the witnesses have disappeared and those people never existed. We've always been at war with Oceana that Disney wants to find the murder. So yeah, So, like I've gone to Disney World a bunch of times, and there was always a separation between

Florida and Disney. Like you couldn't even tell you're in Florida because like the heat, Like once you enter the the Disney the Orlando zone, it's it ceases to be Florida totally. It's literally like it's an insane track of land that they own, like just smack dab in the middle of Florida. Very few accents you don't like encounter that kind of Floridian like weird accent, Like

uh, it's everything is so removed. It is like it's such And that's why I think I kind of enjoyed going there, even as as I got older, it was like shouldn't exist anywhere. This is like it's going to space. This is as close as I can get to go into space. It's kind of absurd. Everything is so weird here. It's well, I mean, yeah, that that whole thing, you know, celebration included, that is just the will of man. Like that's the only reason this exists

is that some guys members got together and made itself. I was I was totally just thinking apure like this, like this murder is the first of many, the fall of somebody like got their version of Adam or something or became sentient or like this. See that's how they should set epic. Mickey two is in the celebrations. Yeah, it's all said in celebration. There's been a murder. It's like they got their hands on caffeine finally, and now

they're going to ape shits right, somebody brought in sugar. Yeah, yes, exactly. Man. I know I would love to go to for as much as I've heard about I'd love to go to I want to Florida. But like, you can't think of it like that because like it's it's it's so hot, not even no idea, not even not even the cultural part of it, because that's not the part. It's the fact that it's in Florida like humid. Yeah, it's the climate. Did you guys go to

the Atlanta E threes with remember that? Yeah, it's worse than that. Yeah but your but like I did not, But what about super humid Tokyo? Was it Like it's kind of it can get like I didn't go to in the summer one time though, Okay it was like's like that. But you're inside those rids which are like the air conditioning bill alone at Disney World must be ridiculous. Between rods. There's so many rods for you, it's

huge. They're just burning corpses to fuel those fires to keep thing. I want to see the secret underground Disney like catacombs because they always he those weirds, like they drive many golf carts around there and there and like just kind of like cast members getting changed, like nobody can ever see you get changed, right, like like the Disney law and you can't wear ear rings and

no, it's so weird it is to be multicultural. Must about five times to the statue every day, like like it's almost no like just waltering. It's almost one of those things where like there are no ex cast members there's nobody who ever says I used to be a cast member forey because they don't exist. Well, no, it don't retire. No, it's like an alcoholic. It's like I'm you know, I'm not drinking, but I am always an alcoholic. It's like, well, i don't work for Disney anymore,

but I'm still a cast member at art. I'm still a part of the family. I'm just out here spreading the message. I'm on my mission. That's right, Sleeper agents, they'll just get triggered. Yeah, I don't know, it's you tell me. They'll play the Mickey Mouse UH Club theme song. Am I see? And then yeah, tell me what the letters mean? What spell? Tell me? Their eyes dilate and then they just pull a gun out of nowhere. Ozzie Smith in it? Anyway?

How do we epic Mickey? Yeah, it's a bummer and it's got it's got some moments, but it's it's mostly just not very good. Uh. You know what I do like, though, is the that that need for speed most were not most one need for speed hot Pursuits. The game is pretty good. You've you've played a fair amount of it. A lot of that I noticed I'm the only one. Apparently, I've got to the point where even Jeff has no longer has not anticipated in the events that I'm doing.

I'm I'm I'm on you. I'm on you. It's me and you and Justin, Justin and Charlie from two K Badly I don't have Charlie. Charlie's times mock me man, he is a U Jared on on the ones that he chooses to play, he's he is. Are you racer or cop? Uh? You know, I was hardcore cop for like my first stretch with that game, but I've been so like you know, I'm played this game pretty well after it came out, and after a lot of people have already played and I have a lot of people on my friends less playing that

game, uh playing or have played or have played played. Well, It's only been like like two specific days that I've actually put that game in and played it. But on those two days, I played it a lot. Uh So in both occasions, I don't think there's been anyone actively online, but because a bunch of people have played it and played it a fair amount, there's a My autologue's all full up, which is awesome. Like the way that that thing works when you have the way that thing works when it

works is awesome. The fact that it incorporates, you know, any sort of aggress like because I was just going through just the career mode stuff specifically, it's kind of paying the ass the way you have to like move around the map, and it's like, we just give me a big fucking list of this stuff instead of like you have one of two gold medals here. It's like, was that because I haven't done the event yet? Or no, I've done the event and right, yeah, it's it's just not the

clearest. And I found that like, wait, if I just go to the autolog this is this is the fest, this is for me, it was just the fastest way to just like burn through events that I hadn't done yet because I could just go to it typically present a couple of events that you haven't done that well, So all I would I mean and all I would do there was just scroll through like the Okay, well here's the top ten players on your friends list. I'm like, okay, I'm not on

there. I haven't done this event yet, Man, go start doing that. And then I eventually started hitting the point where it was like only one or two people were had done an event, and I'm like, I don't really care so much. But by integrating the like the leaderboard stuff with the campaign stuff, I felt like made both both of the ends of it far more compelling because it's like, well, even if I don't beat everyone's score,

I'm still getting career progress for it or vice versa. So there's like they've figured out how to just make it like any sort of progress, any sort of you know, sense of completion that you can get from this, you will it feels meaningful. Is it just constant feedback, just like you're constantly moving forward. Yeah, it's just like you went up, like either you got more points, so your level is going up or uh, you know you beat this guy's uh you know, best time and so eat it.

So eat it. Post on your wall, post everything on your wall. Facebook wall. No, I turned off all of the Facebook. Does it have any of that stuff? Because I never saw any integration any of that stuff. I know, I just turned it off. On the Twitter end, I actually just went on too. I don't know if I hadn't hadn't realized this, you can like deny through the Twitter dot com interface. You can you can see everything that you have allowed access to your your Twitter

account in the past. Some on there I don't remember saying okay too, So I'm like, all right, time to turn off all of these games that I'm never going to play again that I don't want to know my Twitter stuff. I don't need to like now that, now that Bizarre Creations is going down, I don't know that that I need to exactly. I don't

need blurred. I'm charted too creeping out of the woodwork. I don't know if I still suck at racing games, Like I think I'm doing pretty well with this, but yeah, you're not doing bad the amount of randomness that you're subjected to in terms of just like when passers by will appear and stuff like that, like oncoming traffic or like yeah, they're just it. It feels a little more than coincidental sometimes. But it's like I don't think it's

right have an algorithm. Think they must have an algorithm. It's like, okay, you're gonna be sliding around this turn, yes, Like specific instances of like you know, there's a little shortcuts off of the courses and the AI, especially in like the what is it the single pursuit ones intercept interceptor. Yeah, so, and then interceptor is the AI loves to just that

off those, uh, the shortcuts at a moment's notice. I can't remember how many times like AI will swerve onto the shortcut, I will like bust a slide into the shortcut. So I'm like, pickup truck will just happen to be coming around the corner at the exact moment for me to plow like head first into it going into the shortcut, Like it just seems to happen that they must have developed some kind of science to make that trickier than like,

it's not just me right like your guys right into that too. Yeah, but it's it's one I feel like it's they put that, but I feel like I felt like I was doing that. They put that truck like where your unmodified trajectory will put you. I feel like they are they are

still allowing you enough time to to like move out of that situation. But it's sort of like if you don't do anything about the direction that you're moving, and you are going to run into this obstacle that estentially was not there a few seconds earlier, right, but you know, keep you on your toes man. I also moved a lot closer to my TV. I moved

my couch up. I moved my couch up. Yeah, actually I actually know I moved my couch up for well, just because I was thinking about, like, I want to how far I should be for my TV. Let's go ask the Internet, and it's like, you should be a lot closer. I'm like, all right, I'll get up in here some fucking there's like TV. I have a fat it's a forty six inch TV, and I've got a fat face full of TV. That's what I've got.

What's the optimal distance like five feet? Oh my god, crazy clothes, I'm like four feet from my I was my fifty inches yea, yeah, it was fifty two Connect No, I know, I know well that that was the thing is that I had the couch moved like pretty much all the way to the back of the room for Connect. What if you now realize you're not playing Connect anymore? Well, no, I had moved it specifically to play a Connect game. And you're like, I'm not. I played

a little played a little connectimles. Yeah, I can move my couch back. Yeah, yeah, and so I was like, I moved my couch back, and I'm like, is this really where I want my couch? Now there's like now there's literally like between the couch and the coffee table, there's like maybe a foot and then there's like six inches between the coffee table

in the entertainment center. It is right up on there. It does seem incredibly close, although like once I started playing Assassin's Creed again from there, like, whoa, she is huge. I'd really notice the frame rate problems a lot more easily. Now game's a little stuttery. You think Assassin Creed Brotherhood, maybe I should get closer? Absolutely absolutely, it is it Well, it's just it's it's got the crazy constant like pop in thing does that

quite a lot. It's okay, but definitely had me thinking more about another generation of hardware as I was playing some Brotherhood this weekend time. Yeah, like I could like it's it's always that like that question of we're gonna start another generation of hardware, what is it that we can really import? Like

what is it that we're gonna make better with faster hardware? And this is one of the cases where it's like, well, I don't need it to necessarily look better, but yeah, i'd like it if all the complicated shit this thing is doing would allow it to also still have And I want to reiterate again that Hot Pursuit looks so fucking good. It does hot hot damn Like, even if it's not sixty frames, like just what it what it shows you at thirty is imagine if it was so fun? What do we

you know this because you we've talked about this thing. What's the hardware in that three sixty now oh man generation and a half old or something? It was something, yeah, uh, Will, you should really just be pissed off at how haphazard your PC games are. If this is if this is what a if this is what three year three generation old hardware? It was like it was like the half Life two Doom Car, remember generation, wasn't

it? Will said? It was like a Will said, it was like a radio ninety eight hundred ish ninety seven hundred is era is yes, two magabytes and rams like a d X nine ship I believe or is it eight? Remember? So they're doing amazing things that closed platforms, but well it is, yeah, it is it is the closed platform It is being able to write like directly, I just don't want to. I don't want gonna

put all those games. Once the next generation comes out, I'm running out of like to clean off that shelf and start over with It's okay, the next one will just all be digital. You're not gonna need boxes for anything. Yeah, that's kind of what I hope with the next platform, is that we finally get like bigger standard hard drives, and what do you think, like five hundred out of the boxes? That seem realistic? I think at this point, Yeah, what do you you ship like a five hundred

terabyte? I just gonna say, like, I think it's model. Also, we've already reached the point where would probably be more expensive to get the five hundred gigabyte hard drive than it would be to get the terabyte. Yeah, depending on on the size of the drive, you go laptop sizes or whatever. But yeah, I don't know, maybe you do one terabyte big drive and then a smaller SSD for just access stuff, for faster cash stuff. I don't know. I would like to see a common base. Yeah,

I hope. I hope they don't do that, because I guess it's one of those you know, it's like the optional Xbox hard drive, which I guess at this point is no longer. Well you you could use a USB device, I suppose, but yeah, I hope they don't do that fast. I hope it's just a size difference. I'd like to see online profiles. I'm saying both in the same box. You're saying a small I'm saying, like, maybe they put an internal It's why. That's just way

too expensive. That's crazy. They would never do it was crazy talk. Yeah, you get your big drive for your media, and you're you're kind of not in stuff that doesn't necessarily need to be access NonStop, and then you've got your smaller kind of almost a cash drive or something. They're going for an all digital platform. They want to give you the platform to buy as much stuff as possible, So they're gonna have you running your games off

of the mass storage. That's how I would expect it to happen. Yeah, but I want to be able to come into the office and download my profile, and I want I want I want my saves to come with me in the cloud. I want my saves in the cloud. I want to saves in the clouds. So bad would be great because because issues with saves moving around is I adjusted, I adjusted to moving my my profile around on a USB stick. I don't. I don't entirely mind that. I think

it's it seems so it seems a little archaic to me. Oh yeah, it's like we've been bringing saves to work for ever, right, It's true. I always had to have some sort of card of of something. Microsoft

has by far the best implementation of that right now. But yeah, even there's is it just seems weird, Like it's like the thing, like there are parts about that I really like, but then there are times when it's like, oh, I just want to boot up the GBT and T account at home and not have to like fucking like re recover it to this console or anything. It's just like I just turned on and then there is that profile and then I can go in there and I can change stuff, I

can add friends, I can do whatever I need to do. I really hope Sony figures out stuff out in the next PlayStation, yeah, because if there is an ex plays on, like just some of some of the profile and save management in that thing is so inconsistent, hard to keep track of.

Yeah, like I was trying to review Dead Nation last week, and it locks your save file to the device that it's saved on, which which meant that there's no good reasons, which meant that I could have either there's no good reason I could either carry that PS three home every night to play it, or I could just only play it in the office, the same thing. I mean, I can understand since that's a system lets you upload saves to the internet and you can just like download saves and use them.

Yeah, but that's that's another another thing they should have fixed or or also yes, who cares? Like what what does it matter if I'm downloading someone else's like even I like, even to the trophy system, like it doesn't. I don't know, it doesn't seem like it matters. You should always be able to although again there are games on the three sixty that do that randomly. I can never move my Dead or Alive Paradise saves because those are lots damn it. I know those are locks to the thing I want to

say. I think that THEA locks your saved file to the device. It's baffled. It is, it's baffling. Discs baffled number discs. Are you calling disc lists discless? All right, this man, yes, this man has no disc but doomp but doomp but dump dump dump but dump but dump. But you don't think it's too small, do you? You don't think people are gonna drive by not see the sun damp damp. I'm just gonna start quoting you already started. We gonna say you start, you already did.

All right, I guess we're talking about news. Yes, we'll bit of news. Yes, the news. Guys, they're going to reboot two Raiders look good foot finally, how many boots has it gone through? Stuff? I believe? I believe three. Yeah, that's the thing. You contend this has happened before. I believe, Like they've just been making two Raider games when the weird style game or whatever, that Angel Darkness is the least angel. So so Angel of Darkness was the last core game, and

it was the PS two game and it was awful. That's the one that was delayed forever. Yeah, that was the one to come out broken and came out it was completely busted. But that was supposed to be like it's a new beginning for Lara Croft. But it was a miserable failure, and then they gave it all to Crystal d and they said, all right, you guys seem like you know how to make games, unlike these Core guys.

Maybe you can help us out. And that was Legend. That was the first one was Legend, and then they also did Underworld, and then they also did Anniversary, which was a remake. I thought Underworld there was another reboot? Am I wrong? Was that another like we're remat like this is yeah kind of we're coming back this isla. I thought it was just another legend. I thought they just made more of that. I just I just bought Underworld for ten bucks. I thought even should I open it?

I thought it was another kind of like here's a serious like here's just another serious Lara Croft game, like we've we've gone back and we've this is all new for you. I thought the legend was that, and then that was mildly successful, so they made more of that. I could be wrong. I'm not the biggest Laurcroft fame. I'm not either. I don't know why

we're talking about the Guardian. Guardian is a za kind's a reboot? No, no, because Guardians is kind of using the the aesthetic styles that they that they established that anyway, the Crystal Dynamic stuff, forget about that. They're making a new one. And this one is is for refinitively a reboots because it's just called tmb raters. It is not just called it's just called

tumb Raider. When that's no, that's not a definitive remove. A definitive reboot would be the tomb Raider. Yeah, all right, well maybe when they well so when they did the Crystal d reboot, they started part of the Simple two thousand series, they started flapping the like everything was not just Tom it was Lara Croft tomb Rator Anniversary. Like that's the technical name of all those games. Is the video game is Lara Croft tomb Raider Legend and

Laura Croft tomb Raider Anniversary. So in the announcement of this reboot, which I have not seen anything about or heard, it's gonna be on the cover of the January Game Informers, So I don't think they've actually even officially. Oh it is like those earlies. It's gonna have Lara Croft, a pretty brown haired girl and she is gonna go on adventure size. That's the reboot. But it seems like it looks like they've dispensed with all that like British

aristocratic background and all that stuff. Really it seemed like that, well, it's like, you know, she'll have that stuff, but you know she's she's always been a little more rough and tumble than that, and that they've kind of the movies painted her like. It's definitely I thought that. I thought that was the fun part though, like she's this kind of rich girl. Yeah, I don't think they're gonna get away from that. It's it's she's now a black woman from the streets of urban chaos. Two. Actually,

mm hmm, all right, have they said? So where did the where the news story come out of? They revealed the cover and there's been all that. There was a bunch of leaks stuff kind of a while ago. Now that was pointing at this being some kind of open world, almost survival based game or something, so it might gameplay wise, it could be

fairly different from what you might expect. At the same time, I would expect that you will see some twystals being shot and piers, a wall being climbed, perhaps some traversal style gameplay, and some shimmying maybe sideways fashion. Why would you do that because you have to until there's room, okay, to get over those rooms. Suggesting that I should shoomy sideways until there's that is precisely what I'm suggesting and create pushing in your in your fever dream of

a game. No, okay, rolling, yeah, you will roll out of the way of stuff. Any tigers? Will you roll out of the way of tigers? I hope. So you shoot a shark, I hope, So t rex I hope. So maybe it's yeah, maybe it's just me, But I just feel like for the duration of the existence of tomb

Raider, they have been rebooting and reinventing. It's like they had those those three or you know, however many there was first match of very like well liked tomb Raider games, and when they've been three, and then there was when they started changing generations, they kind of lost their grip on what the fuck tomb Raider was. To get back. It was by the time they hit three where it was like, all right, your ship's kind of like

an old now like other games, other games are doing this better. And then they did Chronicles, which is the one that had like preteen lar cross on it. There's been a lot of two yeah, yeah, yeah, a couple. I think the only team rater game of I've liked was like Legend or Underworld, whichever perfect Legend Legend was the Like, that was the first Crystal d game that was good. Yeah, that was good. I feel like those guys have been doing a fine job with the handling that stuff.

But at the same time, I wouldn't necessarily want to play another one of those. So but it's still and it still felt like it was like, Okay, this is You've gotten better. You've made a competent game, which Core at a certain point had kind of just slipped away from doing Tell It, Tell It to the Life President, Life Presidents. These games are all the same, so wait, who's doing this one? Crystal It's still

Crystal dam Yes it is. It's still Crystal Dynamics. They lost me all this shocking up our database, Like I feel like all these reboots and kind of like we're just gonna call it the same name, like stop, no, no, no, why that's why I'm asking for just a a comic

courtesy throw on the front of it. Yeah, it's something makes it easier for us, like port Port Dave and Andy and all those guys have to be like, all right, now, we gotta fucking to search again because we need to make sure when you type in tumb radar the right one, the most popular run comes up, and if you're typing sound out the Hedgehog, this will come up. I just feel like this is making things more difficult, feel for you, guys, and rebooting Final Fantasy on my own

buble. Finally, the Final Fantasy. It's actually called Finally. Actually it's just called Final Fantasy, but we italicized final. That's right, Final Fantasy, Final an underlined fantasy Fantasy. Twisted Pixel has revealed their next game, Comic Jumper. No rebooting a Comic Jumper. Yeah, it's a sequel say game that they already made Explosion Man called Miss explosion Man. Right now, what's the diffence between Splosion Man and Missplosian Man. Really, she has a

bow in her hair, but she doesn't have that. I didn't the hair get burnt off. I don't know if this was a direct quote, but I saw somewhere and I think it was in our story that Splosion Man has a penis and missplosians Man has a vagina. Yes, that's one of the interviews they direct quote leave Josh bar said that, so that is there, you go. That is the difference. She is pink and has a boat. It seems like she has electric powers too. But they did say that

there would be new gameplay stuff. It's not just a level pack. Oh my god, I don't know if I can take anymore to that game. I feel like it's just just imagine how much better they've gotten at their craft of making FMV. But it's it's their best game, like purely like thinking thinking, yeah, you're right, you're right, it's their best game. It's it's a good game. It's it's grueling. It's yeah, it's hard, well it's it's but it's it's grueling in a way that they could checkpoint

away. Yeah. Like the only time Explosion Man made me go like, all right, fuck this, I'm not playing this anymore was when they would have those big, long, like it's kind of escape sequences or something where it's like the lava is rising, you gotta get a something, water, gotta get out of here. There was a fair amount of memorization where where but they were like super long sequences where if you just threw a checkpoint in if you cut those in half, no more than that, just split them

in half. It would be so much less abusive feeling. I played a little comic jomp or if you like, maybe a month ago or something, and it's not it's not very good game. It's not very fun. It's awesome, but yeah, the game parts not great. No, yeah, the parts that aren't the game are fucking incredible. But it makes you play their game. At the end, you fight the final boss from Explosion Man. Yeah, really like same, just like what I have to finish that

game. I'm on the last level, man, I just kind of peter it out. Miss. Anyways, I'm only only only critical because I love and I am excited for I think that they're the fact that they're making a misplosion man is hilarious. It's that is in and of itself a great gag. And yeah, I think it's their strongest game. And to just point they have absolutely they're the best best in class at dumb videos in modern video.

Maybe they'll get Danny Trio and really really make this flourish. Don't move your feet, give him the stick, broke the game now, I pick your face, so Danny Trio. Now I just turned into a side of meat. Fall out of the sky. Please don't kill me. So you're not playing any of the StarCraft two patch beta stuff? No, uh, that's something you can opt into. Tell me about this, paint Paint me a picture. How does the stuff with the Craft? You can self?

Yeah, download you you know, you can get into these patch servers and play stuff ahead of time. And yeah, it's not a yeah exactly like they let you, you know with Wow and and most other MMOs thoughts. Just kind of copy your character over to the public test realm. So is that how it works? I wasn't sure. Mechanically how you switch back and forth and you can switch back to yea, so you just kind of create

a copy of your character. It's some cases you can also like just max level them or something like that, depending on what they're testing or something. I'm sure the pros effing love this because they can get on there and test a bunch of new pile before this, because I mean, some of the changes they made are pretty profound. I know you guys don't really care, but like a lot of tests, you hurt. You hurt me when observers are now twenty five seventy five instead of fifty one hundred. Does that mean

you think, oh my god, really that is pretty major. Believe pretty major. One of those numbers is different from the other. Hallucination research has been reduced by thirty seconds. That's pretty big. I'm excited. I'm thirty seconds is a really tastes like an hour for it to kick in for me. The void Brae speed up grade has been removed, but they now do an extra twenty percent damage to massive targets. That's a lot of percentages.

It's hot. That is hot anyway. Yeah, it's cool that people can jump on here and yeah, like start specking out new builds without actually having to worry about like ladder competition and stuff like that. So the first, the other's all still subject to change. Yeah. In fact, one of the changes is already listed as this change is only for the beta period or something like that. Like they made bunkers build faster, but they're like, this will revert back when it goes live. It's like, I'm not even

sure why. That's probably because they just don't feel like patching it out of their public test version. Maybe they already decided to no good, or maybe it's like one of those things we're like, Okay, well we need to do this step before we can get to this next part in this process. Maybe so we just want to speed up how fast it takes us to get to this because it saves us time. It's possible. The other the other big thing that's coming in this patch is like chat channels and stuff like,

it's not just game changes here, it's all the stuff battle that. Yeah, it's all battle that stuff, all all the things that people wind about. Basically when the game came out and they were like, oh, where did our IRC chant like they're in this. Have there been any cues to play StarCraft two? Or is that strictly wow? I didn't. Someone sent me a screenshot on Twitter that that was of a battle Neet queue that looked

all battle nettie. It was not StarCraft. It didn't say StarCraft or Warcraft anywhere on and it just said it just was a battle Neet looking thing. It just said eight hours fifty two minutes. I'm like, what the fuck, that's crazy, insane. I know that. I know that, like

with Cataclysm coming out, I'm sure there will be cues again. They had cues to reactivate accounts recently where people were waiting on the phone for like four hours and stuff like that, Like there was like getting accounts up and running was apparently messed up over the weekend or something. I have to do that over the photo or I don't know what the hell. I would hope that they would just expand out the servers and then shrink it back, you know,

like they should know it. You know they're gonna get this big. I assume the StarCraft and Wow exists on separate infrastructure. I would hope, So I hope. But yeah, like I said, the screenshot was provided without context, so I don't know what the person was trying to do. Definitely, no Q, no way, time, no nothing for StarCraft. And every time I go on there, it's always it always says they're at least like a million players on Battlenet at the moment. So so this is

something you can just jump into. You don't need to like qualify for special In fact, it's it's accounts. The counts have to be created before. Yeah, I'm not sure what the rationale is behind though. Anyone that bought the game late or register their account late is not in it's it's only old players. Okay, m alright, alright, that doesn't seemed too bad though, too much of a restriction. Moving on, We've got a new Ghostbusters

game being announced by Atari through the USA today. It's got a good subtitle. I think I liked the subtitle, Uh, Sanctum of Slime. Yeah, is that the subtitle that you were talking about? That is that's the subtitle of it. I just want to make sure that was the one sanctum So, uh, yeah, they're making a follow up to Ghostbusters the video game, but this is actually a follow up to that. It's a reboot.

I think the ghost Busters, uh, the real Ghostbusters, I think the I think by follow up they just mean like also also with the same license. Yeah, okay, I'm not saying it's not like it's not story can picking up where Ghostbusters the video game picked up. Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't know. Okay, it's not the fifth movie. I don't know. Well, I do know that the that none of the voice actors are returning, but I don't even know if their likenesses are

downloadable? Is a downloadable game? Is Xbox Lab Arcade PlayStation network game? And it's like a top down dungeon crawler like dual Joystick. Yeah, it looks like a dual joystick. Be hot hot, And I mean the dual down Ghostbusters arcade game that was garbage. Well, not not like that, yeah, not except that this could be good. So not like that at all, I guess, except for the Ghostbusters part. Not an arcade, well an Xbox arcade. You know, having not the voice actors return maybe

would have made me sad until I played. You're like, yeah, okay, all right, let's try something else. Let's you know that wasn't They weren't terrible, but no, I'm willing to get somebody else to turn out BAT. At this point, I bet there's no voice obviously. I'm I'm wagering no zero voice work in this one. I bet there aren't even named characters. I bet there are no stances or Bankman's. Jeff has an uncanny knack for being able to vocalize synthesized console spell. Long time playing you Your

Joe Montana sports talk is pretty right on your hit The Space Ghostbusters. If you listen to it a certain way, it sounds aquatic. I definitely get a little fishman but that's kind of it's kind of but it's oh no, no, it's good. It's good. Yeah, you know, despite like that was kind of the thing, was that the Ghostbusters game was just pure nostalgia bait, Like that's all that game was for. Was you you like this movie called Ghostbusters? Right? And I was like, yeah, I

do. He's video game's got the guys from Ghostbusters. I don't like this game at all. This Yeah, this is one of those like okay, well now we have the license. This looks like more of just a game, like a video game. Dual Joystick ghost Catching sounds totally okay to me. Yeah. I feel like for the nature of the Ghostbusters weapons, that dual joystick set up would probably be feel good. It probably feel pretty good. It feel pretty good. Yeah, like the busting it'll feel pretty good.

It's been known to make me feel good in the past. Do you believe in magic? See if it does? Do you want a new drug? I do? I also want to go back in time? Hell yeah no I didn't. I didn't have a back again. I thought I thought we're going back to and also back to the futures. Coming out now, No, coming out in December it does not have it does not have a release dates now that is now wait a minute, it's out now because it's

December. I'm going by release date logic of the of the publisher. Did you guys see the new screenshots that came out for that, No, one of which features match three gameplay? Wonderful. I don't know how to feel about that. You know, you gotta are you matching garbage to put into the It's like you appear to be matching color jewels, but I'm maybe a mistaken flux capastor play some bejewels, all right, what Marty McFly can't play

but jewels? Maybe maybe Marty McFly events Bejeweled background fifty. That seems like something that would be okay to insert into an adventure. Again, Yeah, it's probably fine as long as Christopher Lloyd is there saying this is the same piece of damn, damn right, just over and over again. Shut up, double damn you guys. You guys seen the YouTube video they put up of their Marty McFly. Yes, It's Magic is a serious party, McFly.

It was one of those things I saw that like because it's before they shown any gameplay, Like we have some character sketches and yeah, Chris Lloyd's on on board, and one of the screenwriters is on board. The other Bob not Bob's a macis uh. And I tell Tom F. Wilson doing I was like, I don't know, maybe this is not involved in the storyline. Maybe he is. Come now, Yeah, it's probably out with his guitar singing that song about what it's like to have been in Back to

the Future and have that be your only it's a bit nizeable thing. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know when back to fus coming out there Martin with fly is awesome and hearing his voice was the first thing that made me go, Okay, I'm allowing myself to be excited about this game because that's a damn damn good Even if you're not worried that it's just gonna end up about the same quality as the cartoon. I think it will be remarkably better than the cartoon. Okay, I have I hope my hopes set at

least there that it will be way better than the cartoon. The cartoon was pretty bad cartoon can I'm expected it would be about the quality of the team in Wolf cartoon so you know, that'll be good. I'll be happy with that, hey, will you. I wasn't even a new store. That was just us talking about back to the Actually, I just said I wanted to go back in time, and then you you took it as a sepah. I don't know. No release date for Back to the Future, just

month, which is I don't know. It's that seems uncharacteristic for for tell Tale. Oh, usually they're about like our release date and then we will always hit that release. On the way side, they remember they announced the date for Poker Night like three days before it came out, So that's true. But that also seems you're right, I mean that still is that's still insisted with the letter of the law. They did announce a date and hit

it. But even even that like tomorrow, like like announcing it and then going like that, I have to chalk up to just I don't know, licensing craziness and yeah, possibly, I don't know. I'm not privy. I want to know what's going on with dress Park. No you don't, I do, I do too. What the hell is that going to be? It's a Unix terminal, can't well? They kept saying we were talking

to the dudes at very different at at Packs. They were kind of saying like, yeah, this is gonna be more your traditional adventure game, like like you know from US, but Drastic Park, we're going weird. They're going They're going somewhere outside of their comfort zone. Well, when the Telltell guys were here, they were like, yeah, you know, Dress of Parks pretty awesome. So I'm kind of curious too. I just wanted to look like like, yeah, do you play as a dinosaur? I hope

so clever girl, Yes, you do. You play as the clever girl. You play as the butt, play a Samuel Jackins butt. Yep. You have to turn the generator back on and it's but all right, let's talk about some new releases. Anything else do you have to get here for? Jassics? And I was just like waiting for the what other quotes do we have? Toture finds away, Nature finds a way, ms, God creates man, what's he doing? Everything? Reboot The Fly? Oh dude, fuck you, fuck you? Fuck that movie? The Great? What

are you talking about? Not when you see it when you're like seven? Yeah, yeah, I agree, I totally agree. I wish if you're pulling teeth and refused to arm wrestle for like a decade. It's so good after that, Oh, he starts pulling the fingernails off. That happens to me. They definitely don't watch video drome. What if I wrestle wrestle guy, my arms splits and a half too. That can happen. That could happen. That can totally happen, and you have a shot as as a

referee for wrist wrestling. Jeff knows a thing or two three about the danger of wrist wrestling. He's seen so many femurs in his life. If people have to from arm wrestling. What a femur from arm wrestling? Oh yeah, oh yeah, a broken, broken femur all the whole over place. How does that happen? You don't want to know. It's like ankle wrestling as well. Break it breaks so hard that it pops out of the leg. What it's like, It's where it's where the tension comes from. That's

where all of the arm wrestler's strength actually comes to. The don't actually from their legs, it's all arms, okay, no, no, no, no, I mean it's like that's where it comes out, but it starts at the legs. I saw a video of a fourteen year old girl arm wrestling. Have you I saw a video? I saw a video over the weekend. I watched that same video. I watched that with you. Yeah, I was disappointed by the rushing her teeth afterwards, and that's usually how

those goes. It was on a subscription side. It was all Japanese and then she just talked about the World WARKERFT for a while. You have to see the arm wrestling video that I saw over the week which is a champion German arm wrestler who has got actual popeye syndrome or his right arm as I swear to God, three to four times the size of his actual syndrome. It's actually it was actually a genetic It began as a gene condition and he just let me just ran with it and became a champion art rossler. Him.

Hey, if you say you have a condition that will make you popeye, then I'm from point one spinach eye to fucking stoke, but only on one side, like like spindly girl arm. On the other side, I'll take half pop out of the right arm, like fucking huge, huge, especially the four arm. I wish I would have Popeye four arms in your mind right now. Robin Williams, though, gage at one of my eyes

like that he is eating spinach through a corn cob pipe. I was just shoving the whole thing in there the can, Yeah, vacuum in it through the Popeye successfully convince you as a child that spinach tasted good? No, because the spinach ees always looks disgusted as they're boiled, because it's canned spin like. I like spinach now as an adult, but it has to be prepared in a good way, not just in a can, not just horribly

canned slimy. Yeah, I want to do some greens. That's the reaction I probably have the same one with the Pope has when if I were to eat a can of raw ass spinach like mushy, I'd probably flip out too. My pipe would start flipping over. Fuck, bust out of the screen that you've been somehow wrapped up inside of disgusting? Why would you eat that? Go punch it, Jeep and turn muscles start moving like pistons, turn all red and just start running around the level. Jeep. You're gonna need

Jeep's help. Tattoos start animating on their own. Battle ships start firing all right now. Releases for this week Tron Evolution for the PC, Xbox three, sixty, Nintendo DS, Sony PlayStation Portable, and PlayStation three. Also out this week Tron Evolution Battle Grids for the Nintendo Week completely separate game. We're gonna pick that up. I imagine the PSP something weird. Yeah, probably Rememb're gonna pick up a copy of that Week game and see what it's

all about. Because the last time I saw it three it looked interesting. I saw it since then, and I also thought, like, hey, that actually looks kind of good because they just focused just on light cycles. It seems he has a lot of light cycle stuff. Battle Battle Grid Yogi Bear of the video game. I didn't know this was a movie until this week. This is a movie. I've known about it for way too long, and it's really it's Neil Hamburger has had some interesting things to say about

Yogi Bear the movie on Twitter. I don't follow him. I slow my. Yeah, known about it for too long because there's Andy Daly is this comedic actor who's like bit role in the movie. He's been he's been talking about his involvement in it because since like March April something like that. I saw the trailer and I was like this weekend and was floored, amazed they could not find a good Yogi bear in person. It's Danakroy. It's terrible,

justin Timberlake. Right. You don't think so, You don't think Danikred's bears an not from the trailer you like it. I think it's okay. I don't think it's all right. It sounds does not say I mean the movie looks like an abortion, but like his I think that's not the part where they lose. Yeah, yeah, totally, he doesn't. It doesn't sound like exactly like the rest of this looks like comic gold. Uh, deal Breakers. Ranger Smith completely takes me out of the experience. Who plays

Ranger smiths like Jason Lee? No, no, no, no, it's it's it's the guy. Oh God, tip of my guy. Who's who was the main guy in ed Uh Martov Peebles, thank you, Ranger. Uh. I'm just I'm gonna I'll pull it up here because I know, God, damn it, matt LeBlanc. It's Matt le Blanc. That's it. Is it no, I would probably say, like, you know, the dumb guy from Friends. I can't remember. I can't remember which movie ED was. That was a Baseball with the Monkey, right, that's a

TV show, as I is the ED that I am bright? Okay by that? Okay, your connection wasn't that unn isn't Jason Jason? He's not Ed. Jasonally would have been a great guest for this. Wait, you're talking about Ed the want the guy with the mustacheho goes around with the list right now? That's my name is Earl? Shit again, you know you're you're you're logic Tom kavan Off, Thank you. I don't know who the fuck guy is. He was on ED, Oh, I had the horse.

He was mister. He was on Scrubs as a guest star occasionally some other shit. Yeah, he was the titular ED eighty three episodes network television starting two thousand and four. I don't think it sounds like yogi beart is boo boo. Yeah, you do a better Yogi bear. That's the thing, Like people have been doing yogi for years and I was amazed. Yes, I just can't get past the promotional poster of good things coming back that That's the reason that people know about that movie. That ad went hates say

it, but it went viral. It did it? Did good things come in Bear Coming Bears? And so it's it's Yogi and and and Boo boo and Boo Boo is a it's like a vertically oriented poster. Booze in the lower half smiling, and and Yogi's behind him standing there also smiling. That's great. Do you think so? I think in San Francisco they packed extra

punch. It should have been grin and Bear. Do you think somebody at the agency knew what they were doing or do you think this was like the biggest marketing gaff of all That movie seems like it's just a pun with wheels like that. Yeah, yeah, I feel like there it's that is not going to have the like cultural awareness. It's not it's not gonna be Pixar with its nudges and winks. I think somebody lost their job over that ad though that thing was ridicule, it's an agency job. Whatever. I gotta

be able talking. I think the rest of the people lost their job of making a movie of Yogi Bear. I don't think now they made it in New Zealand. They made it for super cheap, so they they filmed it all New Zealand rist because it's way cheaper. So all all all these people had to live in New Zealand for like three months, live action bear with like a tome and then Tom gets eaten by a bear. The whole movie is like five minutes. What do you think? Oh Jesus, just give

him the baskets. The ending is just dude being like I would want to play the whole tapes, but I would like to save you from playing the rest. I recommend you destroy these tapes. You should just right. Just Cavanaugh screaming in the background is a video game for the DC coming out based on anyway, the Tom Kavanaugh bear murders. We should get that. I said, it's a picnic. This is the current ones. Yeah, but fucking mat movie. Good things Coming Bears, Great, Good things Coming Bears.

Great, it's fucking amazing. Touch Master connect for the Nintendo DS. What touch Master connect? Like this like strip poker? Yeah, like touch Master is it really? Yeah? But no, boobs, it's not gonna be good. Yeah, the erotic switch turned off. Yeah, it's like bad basketball. And yeah, they've done a few different touchmocks already. Warner bought it from Midway and they're just keeping up the quality, I'm sure based on what they did with Game Party and uh, World of Warcraft Cataclism for

the PC that's out this week. I have copies in here. You guys got deluxo additions? Oh are they selling like big package cloth map style? They always there's always a soundtrack, bond scenes, DVD, some custom to account. So you're gonna go home punch that code in? Is there? Did you get money on that thing? No? But I would say fifty bucks for the stand fifty Yeah, if I had to guess, I guess the Collector's Edition was selling on Amazon for one thirty today, But I think

that's because it's ran out, ran out. They actually Blizzard tends to actually make their but they tend to actually make their Collector's editions like of a limited amount. Yeah, yeah, didn't you say the original Wow Collector's Edition is going for like two brand what I remember? Like open? I remember at launch those things were going for He was saying that, like when just nuts County so that have all of the Collector's Editions attached to them are selling for

like three thousand dollars. It doesn't matter about the character is it's just or the box. Like I don't think they just want like the pets that are associated with the keys. Yeah. I just threw out my like blizz con Merlock card. Threw that out. I mean I punched it in. Okay, just a card. Not a lot of people would. Let's take that off your hands. I had some other one too that I threw out.

I don't even know what was on it. But what is probably going to be the biggest game release this week but Jeweled three for the PC, the third Bejeweled though, it's going to decimate everything time you gotta match three gems. I thought that was shut the fuck up. I think we've been doing that since the first picture. No, you had Bejeweled one because the one you just match one gem. It's really easy. And he just turned on and it just goes Yeah, that's pretty much the screen. Say why do

you think it was such a hit? Did you gotta see the Jewels? Following constant? Did you gotta see the press release the Popcat put out? It was just like like picture, here's pictures from the Bejewel three launch party. I did I did pictures I did where they had They staged a like little old lady tea party. Awesome. It was a bunch of like fifty year old women. That's funny, like having tea and playing on laptops. Jeff Green with him no, because this was done the UK. Oh,

they wanted to do like the proper, proper British old lady party. What is Bejeweled three? Adding to the mix Bejeweled Red Swifty watched the Quick Look to find out a right to integration. Only we could get Jeff Green in here this week. Well, platforms gonna get three PC personal computer for now. But you know it's gonna be everything. Your phone, your your headphones are gonna play its coup. Its gonna be a quick two mod. Is Jeff Green coming in here? He's not? Can you still play her?

He's no, not just not this week. He's all weekend for this for what? For this? Sure? I'm sure he would. I haven't asked a huge release. We should do that is it wasn't there a mod for for a while that let you play? It's still in there? Is it? Is it license? It's like, yeah, that's that's Bejeweled and h I believe they're in the process of patching it so that it will work, and or they it's already out, so it's like patch up so that when

Cataclysm launch over, your thing will work with it. Crazy. Yeah, that's still happening. H that's Box Games Xbox Labricade. This week, we've got Bomberman Battlefest. Now. I'm not sure if this is either a standalone thing or if it's like if if they've just changed eight player, multiplayer focused new things Bomberman. I guess, but I guess it's like based on Bomberman Live, so they just kind of good things coming Bomberman eight hundred points,

more cooperative Bomberman moods. I am told I don't I don't want to play bomber Man anymore. Yeah, so you're cashing out tack on my chip and as it turns out, I haven't wanted to play botber Man for a really long time. How about Tetris, I would like to play. I could play some some good multiplayer Tetris. Yeah, we look into that for you. Okay, So Hattress any Hattress, I got this. I got a

floppy in my bag with Tetra net on it. All right, cool, I'm just gonna say, if we want to play some good multiplayer Tetris, juste man, I don't some themes hold over. But what was the in six four Tetris game? Scott new trist would never stop playing the new Tetris, the new Tetris. Yeah you have something the Trump's old. Yeah. Oh yeah, he's gonna bring that animals. We're gonna we're gonna record video of us playing. It is a tingine to bring the heat in here.

Ting Tetris what it is. He's gonna change the world. He's gonna change the landscape of this office. Harms way through Korean Tetris tournaments. Next week, I'm gonna go watching Tetris tapes being like to get these new He's gonna ask I'm gonna ask you about your opener. You're gonna say how you're gonna go eight long? Yeah? Go for ye harms Way. What's that? It's a game for Xbox Li Racade. What are you doing it? Eat Doritos? Yeah that's right, you are the Dirito game, alight. I

don't know what you're doing it? You get points? Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, it is free, so get your free pots. That part's accurate, So play it like Doritos. I already like them, so you

know whatever, I agree. Would it be if you fired up the game and there was just like a menu option that was just like unlock achievements and you just like hit the button, only if there was like two achievements, and then a button below it that says like push here for Doritos, and then you show that Dorito showed up in your house, like we already have your address, We already have that customer relationship credit cards for free to Rito

credit cards already in the system. Okay, that'd be pretty like buyed to read up with points, like you just like cash twenty bucks now you just pull up the damn Yeah, did you buy a big bag? It's not this school lunch crap. Did you buy chips in one of those? Come on? Did you buy Viva Panado with your points Microsoft Points? No? I bought it with money, like actual money. I bought it within I went to their site and it already had my log in and it was like,

would you like to just use Microsoft Points? I was like, sure, I had enough, but it would have made the amount that I had left over crazy. But I'm hoping to get rid of that. I'm hoping to them they have zero points on that account, so you can put more on there. Kmart is selling. They got a coupon code. You can get to four thousand point cards for ten dollars off like forty bucks for fifty dollars or the points. It's like free money. Someone sent that to me

today. I'll take that. Sometimes it's not worth it for the discount. Yeah, difference, But that that one is Marvel Pinball. Well, the Marvel Pinball tables from Pinball Effects two are out on the Xbox Abricade this week. Four new tables iron Man, spider Man Blade and Wolverine Wolverine Wolverine Blade. Yeah, these will come out on the PlayStation. Those are three separ cheers. Three. Nice work. Your character works really getting better. Thank

you. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to step on what you're saying. This in version is not out to the fourteenth, but that'll be a standalone game over there because there is no Pinball Effects two for them to release it four, so it'll be its own thing. Look out for that quick look at that something, quick look at that recorded game up all a game room? What about it? Something? What do you mean it's something some games are gonna come out for it. I don't know. Aren't we nearing the

end of this pack then? I mean Sunset Riders must be showing up or this whole thing will collapse. Food Fight. I think pu Yan was in this pack, right, it's near the Bangers in this one. I want to say that they probably have enough left for two more weeks. But we only had one of the twin Bees out so far. Right, Yeah, there's another twin be the's another twin like two? Is one more ratory twenties hundred game? I think in this back also yea, also fucking cares I

do PlayStation Network kung Fu Lou kung Fu Live? Oh yeah, kung Fu Live? Yeah, what were you talking about? It's talking about kung Fulu, the star of Off the Wall or whatever the fuck that breakout game was. We were playing one ung kung Fu Live. There's another product that's coming to PlayStation Network this week. At first, I thought you were giving you some sort of crazy segue. I was just I was random, Oh, okay, what do you do with kung Fu kung Fu Live? We played

that a pack o ye me jumping around eye toy. It's basically connects game without all that expensive technology. More or less, it actually maps you into the game, so you're a little your your little images running around scans the background. Because yeah, I feel like it's like, what's smart about that is by shrinking you down. Yeah, you really like the issue of of the fidelity goes away. It's it's neat for what it is. It it

actually seemed pretty cool. It's a little ghetto, like the tracking is not always awesome, sure, uh and and all that, but you know, you're doing backflips and shooting lightning of guys. It's ridiculous. It's kind of cool, which probably get something. Yeah, I would probably get something going with that. Live some game called que Leone Leon it's q l io and as an Italian mob bossone q Star or Leone core Leone. Sure don't don Leon's Cubes is the sequel q l I O n E q Lion. But

it's got an E on the end and there's no hyphen. All right, what if I can't say it, I'm not gonna describe it. What is it? What did you do? Simply survive? It's heavy, it's a super edge man or evolving or devolving? What? What is it? Is it? PlayStation network? Yeah? Are we gonna get this? I bet it's great. Who who made it? I don't know, all right, they don't tell me these things. It is six ninety nine, I know that much. How megabytes is it? I don't know that. I don't

know that. I'm pulling this off of the the PlayStation blog updates that they put out, but those are not details that they they give me, all right. They also tell me how Mu Kung Fu Live is. It's fifteen bucks. They do tell me wrong. They do tell me that Alien Breed two Assault is out, which I think came out last week on then the week before three just come out on three six. No, no, that was the next That was like the third chapter in Alien Breed because the Alien

Breed two is like a three part episodic game. So it's like, we're gonna figure out how to charge you forty five dollars for our game even though we're not going to put it out on disk, right, And they did it. It's a good job. And sack Boy Prehistoric moves, Yeah, some sort of pison move based. It is move based. I feel like that is like as as much as people seem to have, you know, like the conversation seems like it's a lot more about Connected than it is about

Move at this point. Well, I guess right, none was talking about shit because there's no games. One thing that I like about the way Sony has handled the PlayStation Move has been putting out downloadable titles to support and Echo Crumb two is out like next week or pretty soon here, and I think that actually also has some kind of Move supported as well, because you know, I like, you know why no one talks about Move because it just

fucking works. There's nothing exciting there. It just it just operates like it works as advertised. It is quiet about it. Kind of games are okay, I don't want to go get one because of that fact, like I don't have to move furniture around, and I know it does what it's supposed to do, like that kind of do you have to move yet? But also it's you know, if you didn't buy a Wii, then don't buy Move. The other the other prerequisite is ship a game that I want to

play with it. But yeah, as soon as that happens, I'll go pick one up. Like it it appear you're right that it like it does what it's supposed to do. Do I do? I care that it does what it does. Not a lot of left not a lot it's left to interpretation, like are you you're lighting okay? Is you're far enough away? Or I mean, there's some extreme cases that are super messed up, and and some of the games, but I think a lot of it's been the

software's fault. Like the fight is not bad because the move technology is bad. Fights bad because the fight's bad. Definitely does seem but I don't know, I think that's true of like most of the snoozers on Connect have been like, well, this is just a shitty, minimal functional Yeah, well, at the same time, if I had a controller in my hand, this wouldn't be fun. At the same time, on the back end, move can do more stuff than those other ones, so I think there is

more potential to be fulfilled. But I think I think from a precision standpoint, Connect has taken the bigger gamble and has the most to gain but also the most to lose. I mean, when that when Connects stupp works as it should, it's you know, it's still still a novel thing. Sure, like when when the Move stuff works as it should, no mystery. YEA, that's what I'm saying. I want I want to see them do some stuff that nobody's done before with this device that does stuff that no other

device does. I would love to see that all the time. But we'll see every game. I just feel I feel like the downloadable. I realized that the market they're going forward doesn't know what the Internet is somehow still, but I feel like it would do like all of these like the Move, and that connects so much of a favor to have a very small game where it's like, Okay, we have a concept here that can't necessarily carry a sixty dollars or a fifty dollars box retail game, but it makes good use

of the of the tech and it's cool. Like I want to see more stuff like that, all these all these platforms for these periphers. What was the one that came out the week the Move came out? Tumble Top No Noble sounds right, Timberland, like Timbo tim Timbo Timbo Land. That was probably yeah, Timba that was pretty cool? Right? Like that wasn't that okay? It seemed it seemed interesting. I didn't get deep into it.

We just checked quick stuff. But it was like one of those proof of concept of here you will see how precise this stuff is and how well it actually works. And it was, you know, it was like ten fifteen bucks. And you know, to have that lower barrier to entry makes that all more appealing. And I think, you know, let's you make more risks. You know. The music game beat Beat Scratcher beating Sniffer. That

was another. Uh. I guess I should start playing these games, but I'm gonna say that I want them to be existing, right, Beat Sketcher, that's what it was. Sure, Yes, it was. That looks interesting. I don't know, should probably get all of that, Jeff. How interesting are Nintendo downloads this week? You read those? I'm gonna go to the bathroom. My voice is all jacked up, so this will be I don't know. I was just gonna go all right on't we wear fluidity?

Oh? All right? Now that fucking asshole's gone, right, I mean, seriously, holy shit, I'm a recording what a pecker. I don't hear someone called pecker very often? Yeah, and that's how you know what I mean. It's good because he's only gonna hear this right when he really yeah and unless he if he does, it skips over everything. That'll be real fun. A rhyme piece of ship damn Fluidity's out this week. You may have seen the exclusive video we put up one of the forms.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah ran that last week anyway, twelve hundred week points. There's also a demo available for zero weak points. They're very like do they spell it out? You don't say? Also free demo version or just a zero weak points. I'm too busy running on balls and Ryan's coffee. All right. While you do that, I'll read this one. Uh. A magical illustrated encyclopedia called Aquaticus has been tainted by a vial of

evil inc called the Influence. It's already sounds kind of gross. Balls and evil ink as a pool of water, then put it in its coff as a pool of water, they can take on alternate forms of ice and steam. You must overcome obstacles scattered across the pages of Aquaticus and save it from

the corruptive influence. Tilton. Twist your Wei remote TM controller to use the various forms and properties of water on your free flowing journey through Aquaticus, where every page is multiple panels and illustrations that come to life, tackle problems and defeat enemies to reveal magical rainbow drops, each of which will restore some of Aquatus's power and allow it to open even more chapters and grant you new powers.

These additional powers, such as sticking to objects as a block of ice or shooting bolts as a lightning of lightning as a scheme cloud, will be essential to destroying Hey, Ryan, now that is how you do fully where? Yeah, that was destroying the Influence and its minions. Along the way, you can also test your ingenuity and reflexes by finding hidden puzzle pieces.

These pieces unlock playrooms you're still reading Fluidity that give you the opportunity to use the skills you've learned and race against the clock to complete as many challenges as possible. These challenges will affect your quest to restore Acquatus's powers. But everyone needs a break down again, right, Yeah? Kind of a late start. You guys are talking shit about me while it's gone. Fluidity options wash

and slide your way through an imaginative environment filled with challenging adventures. Are you ready to dive and are you ready to dive into this unique experience other than the water on a book? Sound like a bad idea? Da, it's the waterproof book exists, those kids books like the little It's just like the menu at Applebee's. Yeah, it's waterproof book. That's good reading. Yeah. The ending it fuck it sucks. Race the middle part kind of sucks

too. Racers Islands Crazy Arenas actually like the movie better, and that the Applebee's movie from Zalag. That's all caps. What is it called? Racers Edge, Racers Islands, s Apostrophe, Racers dash a Crazy Arenas? Wait what who Zalag you said? You're saying es apolsophy. I wasn't sure if it was the islands or the racers. I'm like, no, what wonderful players six hundred points? Do you like unusual motorsports challenges? That's kind of

a loaded question. No, No, I guess not. Racers Islands Crazy Arenas includes five wacky activities slash challenges, a golden totem to capture in the Lost Temple, a wild ascent to an infernal mountain peak, an ice hockey tournament between racing cars that's kind of weird. A paid ball contest powered by engines and a time bomb to toss your to your opponents as quickly as possible. During these frenzied events, players must drive with one hand while aiming with

the other and masturbating with the third. I don't have three hands. You have to pay more than six hard points. Fireplacing from Comare Entertainment. This is like some new thing the kids are doing. Yeah, the kids are weigh into fireplace. It's bad, it's all. It's all rainbow parties, speed stacking and fireplaces. Really breaking into somebody's house and taking a ship in their fireplace and running out. We got some emails from people about speed stacking.

I'm not gonna read any of them, but it was how many people like, yeah we did. That was like pe in our elementary school. Yeah you want to go fireplace somebody's house. Fireplacing this weekend, Dude, I heard videos a fireplace. I do have a fireplace. I hopefully none of your assholes will go fireplace. No one's getting out of jail this weekend. We should totally go fireplacing. They're letting know it out. Yeah, oh god, I know. I'm not going to fireplace with him. Well,

technically he's like on house arrest. Yeah, like, you know whatever, we can grease up that the bracelet and yeah, just slip it off. Dude always had a like a weak heel. Slide right over it, exactly. Fireplacing five hundred week points from Comare Entertainment ko, mr, I don't know. Turn your television into a virtual fireplace, equipped with realistic graphics and a fire effect that will almost make you want to warm your hands by it. Wait, how much is this five hundred week plays? How much

is that in dollars? Five dollars for almost make you want to stick your head directly, almost make you want to get in the mood for the season and just slice up your wrists. Wow, prepare the wood, light the fire, stoke it. I you know what, or if you prefer good people come in fireplaces, choose the automatic option to have the fireplace on your screen while you eat with your family, celebrate with friends, or dine with your partner. Which I'm totally okay with this. That's the automatic option.

There's no there's no gameplay. You just turn it on and it's the I am okay with this because they make the people make the like holiday fireplace, DVDs and dumb shit like that. Why not on the weed? Why not? Why not? On? They have a couple of reasons, but why not on he doesn't want to hire a resolution fireplace? Then the we can handle that's right, Yeah, and let's it crackles from them. Oh that'd be good. Yeah, would be good. Or if they're rub two we

mouts together to start it. Read the last lot. There are fireplaces for every occasion. I love it. I'm gonna go buy this. I'm gonna go. I'm totally gonna go buy it. I'm gonna fourth I go home to turn on that wee and I'm gonna totally buy the ship. We should definitely do a fireplace. I don't think there is a fireplace Ford for the holiday spectacle. Oh yeah, yeah, challenge accepted. I don't know. It's like welcome to the it's Vinney's Bristea light of fire. When my uncle

died, where's the fireplace for that? Actually with my great uncle? Technically fireplace for that any occasion, Vinny, I don't think there is graduations fireplace, Dad's and grad fireplace. Fourth of July stoke it that's that hallmark thing, right, it's a fireplace, got fireplace. It's right national Arbor Day. I heard you were burned in the fire. There's a fireplace. Arbor

Day is a great fireplace holiday. Absolutely. Two virtual console games this week, Mmmm, Wolf of the Battlefield Commando or as you know it Commando. We all I added this year. Wait, I forget why we added. So we screwed up and didn't secure the rights to just the name Commando, and then all these other games came out called Commando. So how about Wolf, Wolf of the battle Field of Commando, which is the directly translated from the Japanese version, which is called like Sin Joe Noah Commy, which I

think is Wolf the Battlefield eight hundred wee points. What that's three hundred more than my damn fireplace? Isn't any game? Yeah? Aren't tho supposed to be five dollars? I believe they adjust on based on popularity experience the Capcom Arcade game that spawned a multitude of clones as the original Commando comes to your living room lower case c on Commando by the way, comes to your living

room courtesy of the Virtual Console Service. Take control of Super Joe and shoot your way upwards into enemy territory using grenades to rick havoc with enemy placements in this seminal genre creator. Yeah, Commando was a classic in the NES version. It doesn't actually say which version this is. It would have to be the NEAs what's at arcade? Oh oh oh yeah, Capcom arcade game? Yeah, I guess that's why. All right, that's a good version to

the NES version. They added a bunch of bonus rooms and weird ship too, made it a crazy game. Ground stuff was not in the arcade. It's a Commando for are occasion. Yeah, it's a command of the one where there were fucking tanks you could hop into and that's the cards commando was the one where the helicopter will come down and blink because like there are too many things on screen or something like that. That's what I remember. That's

also a Card Warters. I'm pretty sure Commanda. Oh there was a helicopter that dropped you off, That dropped you off getting and it was like, was it Car Warriors in the arcade a single plan? No, it was two player rotating joystick. I mean I played the ship out of a Car Warriors. I know, Car Warriors, I don't know. If I ever played the good there's some other fucking like front Line like style. I have to go. Front Line had a rotating cattle like controller that would control it

was it was sticking buttons, but it wasn't. It wasn't rotating. It was like nothing odd about the controls. But it was like jungle vertical scrolling. You would get into tanks and shit like that sticking buttons or its pow like frank and b No, you get kicked in the stick BUTTONTI, twig and berries. Commander was the one that eventually we go, what else you got? Sun Sun? What else he's selling? Sun Sun? Said two

Sons Son two, also from Capcom. Also eight hundred wee points, experienced the original adventures of the Monkey King in this action packed side scrolling adventure, rapidly switched between different levels of play to shoot dangerous enemies in the face. Doesn't really say it, really says that fucking a all right, really says that because I wrote this, listens to this. We like it when stuff

happens in faces. I'm very happy about that. A truly original concept of this quirky old school arcade classic has been hard to find in the West since his Arcade debut in nineteen eighty four until now. Yeah, Sun Sun Is is kind of a cool game. It's no Commando. No, you mean Wolf of the Battlefields Commando. No, it's mean Commando. So it's not

anything like the Commandos turn based strategy. Oh yeah, those are games uh ds I where Joe Samurai Defenders from Abelite wanted two players eight points defense game on the Awakening of the Edo period showguns fight ferocious battles to win over the land of the Rising Sun from Kumamoto to Suruga. Six emblematic castles are under siege by impl implacable ninches attacking from land and air. Strategically positioned your spears,

archers, guns, generals, and ninjas. No I looped back to the long line, stradually positioned your spears, archers, gunners, generals, and cannons, promote their ranks, and wisely employed the smoke bombs and rice balls to your advantage. So there's no enemy ninjas. It's just ninjas versus non ninjas. But don't get overly confident. The Art of War of Hana the Geisha is a reminder that appearances can be deceptive. Four gameplay modes includes

score Attack, normal mode, random mode, and versus via das. Download play. Game also includes a fast forward function and several degrees of difficulty. After this, Jef is gonna pass out. I'm getting this is too much pleasant for me. This is actually grades take over what I think it's space ace Y registered trademark. Wait for ds I work. Yeah, yeah, that's what I said for my throws too messed up. Someone else needs to read. I don't read this right ticket? Nope, I do you notice

that I did not reach out to take it? Hot potato? One player wait? No three Space Ace space Ace okay, Digital Leader Incorporated one player E ten plus Uh, this is eight hundred points. Play as the heroic as and stop the evil Commander Boor from taking over the Earth. Worth plans to reduce all of human kinds of influens on takeover the planet. Is that

accurate though? Yeah? Really the Infanto ray only two people because he has played it like a dozen times on his fucking phone and strength to stop Borf and save Earth or U save Earth. I've saved it, like like Ryan said a dozen times. Is his name Ace space At His full name is space Ace. Well those those those only two people I was talking about.

Are the beautiful Kimberly and the heroic Ace all right? But as they approach Boor Stronghold, Aces changed into a child by the Infanto Ray and Kimberly is kidnapped by the kimmand is pretty hot. Read here, I think they all did, and Daphne Daphne is blond. Space Ace is a fully animated arcade classic from a legendary animator, Don Bluth. You'll make your way through bizarre new worlds by using your Nintendo SI system to move and fire your laser gull

and be aware of your foes as they are numerous. The fate of Earth is in your hands. More than anything, I'd like to know what the what the size of this is? Like? How right? How many blocks? How much? No, I'd actually like to know what the size of blocks I don't want. I don't want an intermediary because that's you know, that's fmv as all that game is so like, how much compression do they

have to put on it to fit it on? I guess it only uses maybe under the d SI let alone ds I wear on the little screen, it might be really hard to tap the red spot or whatever. Might you might not just dpads. That's what I'd do, since that's how it controlled originally. Maybe I don't know, tap m fun tap on the but that would take them to do more than just pourt the version that they've been busting out for every other platform. DVD. Yeah, I have, I believe

I have that on DVD or whatever. It's fine, it's great, cock, Brad, you know it's not. It's not fine. Brad would not read this last one. He is in protests, refuses to read this last one. So I will try and read this. Ritmic Rock Edition. Ritmic is spelled r y t m i K from publishers Cinemax. From publishers Cinemax, Rated one player, rated E for everyone to form, two hundred d SI points. Ritmic Rock Edition is an application for creating rhythmic and melodic themes

and composing full songs. Contains more than one hundred and thirty carefully selected sound samples of drums, keyboards, bass, lead, and rhythm guitars. With Rittmic Rock Edition, you can quickly and easily create the basic building block an audio clip. Did ever do that right? That sounds seems like it made no sense. Yeah, okay, it consists of musical locate notations for up to four instruments that you may transpose, select their location in the stereo field,

and modify their volume polythany and echo. You may arbitrarily combine up two hundred and twenty eight such clips in four tracks and create complex pieces of music. It's not really arbitrary if you're making music. It's it's rhythmic editorializing on the reading. Uh huh, stuff gets handed to me. Man, No one said it on the page. People said, no, one said, read it like it's on the page. It is. Oh, you also have a rhythm library in a varied collection of ten pre made compositions at your

disposal for the best musical experience. Listen using headphones or a quality speaker system. Not included. Oh, you can't download those not included. That's that's speakers, speakers. That's it for for downloadables. Let's talk a little bit about email as we take some reader listener users. I can't hear you were

emails emails? Yeah, yes, all right now, ye, yes, yes, we need to We need to record Brad saying emails backwards so then he can figure out how to say emails backwards forwards so then we can reverse that and have a weird sounding I'm I wanted to sound like that, but I wanted to be honest. BombCast at giant bomb dot com is the email

address. Uh. We talked a little bit about last week about the involvement of Dice in the creation of needs for Speed Hot Pursuit and stuff they did for the world, and we all actually like idiots that didn't know that Dice made a bunch of driving games before, which that's just right. Somehow completely forgot that totally. I didn't we talk about this last week. No,

we didn't talk about We just know we didn't talk about this part. But Rale Sport, Yes, Rale Sports Challenge, Midtown Madness they made those, were aware, thank you? Oh yeah, yeah where now? But yeah, we got a fair amount of emails about that. So Daniel Wharton, thanks for writing in about that. Uh, Dear Drew em from olaf Kansas Hey bodcast. I was wondering what you guys would think of a Robin Hood

game using all of the existing technology and Assassin's Creed Brotherhood. The player, as Robin could scale the Castle Wallace Cecil money for the poor people of Nottingham and if you got in trouble of the merry men were just a whistle away? What do you think I should note that he titles this the subject line from this email is the palette swap to end all palette swaps robin Hood game? Good idea or a bad idea? Of Vinny? Oh, isn't it

just Assassin's creed? But it's rated E for everyone, know, because what are we gonna do? Kiss people to death? And he's a fox. That also would not be rated E for everyone. That's a different that's a different rated M game. Actually that one's Ao to the trees, not play robin Hood game. Okay, again, requiring a little bit of prefacing here. Last week we were talking about the interrogation flashbacks and Sean Khan has a thing or two to say about that. Hey bomb cast this whole discussion in

your recent episode about interrogation flashbacks has me up in arms. In arms, I say, in the case of splinter cell conviction, the story being told isn't necessary necessarily that of the guy being interrogated. Although he plays a part, he's not flashing back. There is no zooming into his face as he looks thoughtfully off camera. There's only one level whereas a flashback. But that's it. He is telling a story within a story. He is simply narrating

Sam Fisher's actions. So with that story within a story framework, adding the interrogation, and boom, you have an interrogation story within a story. I'd say interrogational, but that's not a word. Sure, it's a flashback in the case of Black Ops, but story within a story is broad enough that you covered both games to the point where it matters. Sean Kan, maybe we just call it an interrogation story instead of interrogation flashback or interrogation story sequences

just makes me want to not talk about it at all. Yeah, Audi, Cruz, BRONX. What's worse starting things with X or ending them with Z? Starting them with X. When I first read this email, because it's super it's it's very brief, I thought it might have been like a math equation. M hmm, like anything that was Z is way worse.

I think any Z is worse. Bread Man, I can't think of a good example if something started with X, X ray the extreme games, you know, extreme sports, the club scene in like two thousand, pretty much everything's started with it about like x X smoke Dog for twenty xx pretty bad again and ends with X. Well, we're not talking about ending with x UF. The ends with X is awesome. Yeah, zan X. It's a good point that also it begins with thanks, so it gets that's the

wheel. Oh man, right there. I'll you're upset at the beginning of of the zan X, but by the end of it, you just don't care anymore. It's gonna X on the front of it. You're like, fucking, I'm gonna go take a nap. Guys, I'll see you later.

In light of this new information, I'm gonna go with see well, in light of this new information, I'm going with starting with X. All Right, David from Detroit a bomb cast, folks, folkers, I have been having this argument with my girlfriend for a long time, and maybe you guys can settle it for us. On a controller, I say that the face buttons are configured in two rows. Bottom row is AB, top row is X Y. She says that in a cross configuration, the top why

and it's across wine. It's yeah, it's wine B and an X. He should he should or we should specifive that it sounds like he's talking about an Xbox controller. It does sound like he's talking about an Xbox I am operating under that. It's sound to those four letters at the top, then it's an Xbox controller. Those four Yeah, those four letters have very different positions on any super indios control, which is yeah, it sounds like she's's talking about that. I agree with I agree with this, lady. I

agree with the ladys crossing figures. That's how your thumb lays, your your phone lays across the X and the A or the Y and the B. It's across. Well, she's actually she she's not saying that it's one way. That she's saying that it's just a cross configuration. He is saying it's two rows. So I'm sorry. My initial reading of this was was in correct. I thought it was like like Rosen one way or ros he says rose, she says cross. I always thought it was an analog for the

dpad. On the other side, man, I don't know, but he has the rose backwards though. He's saying X and Y, B and A right, it's like counter to how your thumb goes on the pad. He's saying like fighting game style punches on top kicks on the bottom right, which I think for that style of game it is rose. Sure, if you're gonna you're gonna go there. Yeah, I get, I can see that. I've well, I've got another pickler for you guys, another melon scratcher,

another rib tickler. Huh, it's not gonna be that one. Probably Jared Heather in Sacramento, California. Last week's pomcatch reminding me of something that has always bugged me about arcade hardware naming conventions. Unlike two four and eight way joysticks, the forty nine way joystick is the only style that counts the center position as one of its ways. Is it too late to correct this discrepancy? Would it make more sense to start calling these forty eight way joysticks

or to start calling others three five and nine way joysticks? Jeff, your thoughts, I want to die. We're stuck with it because people to make arcade hardware are crazy, like people from that air are all insane, but also also very setting their ways at this point. Yeah, and also not into standards. Yeah. Yeah, I'm saying the octagonal gate was not ratified by the International Standards and Measures Committee. Yeagonal gate. Uh, it's from

comes in from Cody. Dear Giant BombCast, how do I explain to my wife when I start How do I explain to my wife why I start whistling Ryle o'kilie every time she wears track pants? Jeff, That's there's really no easy way to just really no easy way to do that. That's it, free. I wish I could help. That's it for emails. Thanks to everyone who wrote in. Once again, you want to have your question read and then hastily dismiss here on our podcast, BombCast at giant bomb dot com.

Is the address all right, we have to get out of here before the garage closes. Sweet oh God means dude, we have to get out of here. Thanks everyone for listening. We'll be back next week. There's also gonna be a ton of Game of the Year Shenanigans coming up on giant bomb dot com soon, not just yet, but we're talking about it. Yeah, its heads up on the bomb Cast