Giant Bombcast 09-13-2011

Hey everyone is Tuesday, September the thirteenth, twenty eleven. I'm so tired. It's the Giant Bodcast. I'm Ryan Davis, Vinney, Carola Caravella is Phemerakela in a nutshell, Kras Fellas Smelling Fellas, Phenny. You got the first part time you got burned? Something melancholy in the infinite Vinnie Brand Shoemakers here, I could go for infinite. Yeah, just turn that video turn all the way up. So I just have to just unlock the mutator.

Do I have to just punch just Justin Bailey into you somehow? Do you have to use a game Shark? How do I attach the game Shark to you? I'll talk to you after the show. Okay, what proprietary? Yes, I'm gonna want to hose it off afterwards and before I share my game Shark. Oh that's what are you gonna do? They're expanded? It hard define now I put I put the Coonami code into my new touch pad this weekend. It worked. That's how you enable developer mode on this what

Yeah, like you type it into the search field. You transliterate the economy code like you type the letter ends of the search field on the touch pad. Do you have to type select starters you want to do two player? That's weird. It's kind of dumb, kind of it is, no wonder why that thing is. Yeah, but then I thought you can also type webOS uh twenty nine six h six. That's the same thing. That's way easier, but not as I don't know elegant. You only do it once.

What do you think of that thing? Yeah, I was brought in here. Yeah, but you already have an iPad here. Yeah. I didn't see a reason you brought a real tablet whatever. I's all right, I was. I was close to getting one of those. It's a real tablet. It does flash, thank you. Finally I overclocked it. You

get overclocked totally. That's dumb water cool. Now I was looking at I was doing some PC stuff this weekend, and I was looking at it because I booted up my bios has is having trouble keeping like my boot drive information saved, and every once in a while I was like a problem here, Yeah, just because the battery's dead on that battery. Yeah, maybe I just never I never turned it off, so the rarecas and I do boot it up and then it like goes past bios and just sits there. I'm

like, oh, no, everything's broken. Oh wait, that's right. It's trying to boot my printer for some reason. It's like that defaults to the first device perfect Like, no, my printer can't. No, printer is not a bootable device. I could make it one, but I'm like gonna that seems weird. It has a bunch of memory cards slots in the front and those straight up mount as drives, so you could just could you put a bootoo on that printer? Probably I probably put Windows on that printer,

Moss. It's just a like that part of it just acts as a drive and got I've got like and it only shows up that way because I have like a one gig memories like Sony memory stick just kind of sitting in there because it's something that I has. Where else would you put it? Yeah, nowhere else. It's like if I don't put this here, I'm just going to lose it. You didn't introduced Jeff. I didn't. Jeff's here too, Jeff Krisman, Hello, I'm sorry. I didn't mean did

not introduce you. I'm a video game player, you do I just see your no talking about video games here, and you're a leo. I am exclusively going to cover touch pad games. Finally, between bious and c moss, Oh god, I used to know that. Is there a Is there a like legitimate difference? Is the SEAMSS the physical piece of hardware? Isn't that the complimentary nottalox side semiconductor. Wow? Isn't it? Isn't it? I never even knew it? For basic input out the system? Wow?

I don't mean some acronyms. Alright, Yeah, so that that would make sense that the sea moss face the hardware. Believe. I believe the bos so because seamoss is the thing. If you hit the jump, put the jumper on just right, it'll wipe the bios right. Yeah, maybe that's wiping the sea moss. I think that is like what holds the bios right? What's guzzy stand for single channel? Uh? Something? Interconnect? I think yeah, it's sadis stand for cereal stop caring at that point? Active

transfer? I don't I can't remember what AHTA stands for, but I stand for I don't think I ever in turns driving in her face. I think that might be right. Device interfaces start with a knee interface. Yeah, that's good, that's good enough for good job. I think the fact checking is just really really had a touch pad in here if we're doing anything other than going with it. This podcast goes to four hours. I r Q interrupting requests. Requests Yeah, two letters, not just IR because like wait,

I already stands for something. Pine Dame is not et. Yes, there recursive acronyms, yes, direct memory addressing or something to that. I think that's right. First thing. Then are outdated computer acronyms. Yeah, those are the best. You don't have any any context for anything like that? Is RS two thirty two Port? What those those are like? The those are like the incantations of a lost empire. I felt like if you could, I don't understand the old PCs, like the magic spells of this

long lost civilization, like the game port. Yeah you know port for games. They still have a GPS. It was gone. They're all PC extreme or whatever based a local bus man I screwed. Yeah, he's a local bus and it was AGP. For a couple of years, PCI a PC I it was PCI and a GP existed complimentary to each other. When PC I E came out. That's what's still around, isn't it. Yeah, that's that is what trump a GPA. And now they have stupid names like

Thunderbolt. Don't I know all the all the buses are just cables. Thunderbolts, awesome, thunderbolt. That's a I know, I really use I use my thunderbolt. From one point, there's no such thing as a thunderbolt. There's lightning bolts. Thunder doesn't make bolts. That's that's why they named it. That is so they can get the pat nonsense. It's a nonsense worth. If they try to get a pattern on lightning bolt, they'd be like, no, what fucking lightning incorporated as the pat on Lightning bolts bolts.

It's a company, doesn't exist. I guess you can pass. It's a company that makes bolts. Thunder under both. How you doing all right? We we survived the Big Live Live Show live last kind of mostly mostly did we? Or did we have it all dead? God stream? I wish no. This is our your podcast in this room forever. This is our Yeah, this is our hell razor punishment of having now go through the Big Live Live Show today is actually September eight. Yeah, just keeps on going

again and again and again. The worst day. Yeah, I wish, I wish there were just some camera to show a pile of all the stuff that died. Equipment wise, there could be you have it in a pile. No, I'm starting to send it back. Oh is it? Is it getting boxed up now? Yeah? It was many HDMI converters died to bring you. Yeah, the big live, live show, live show. I think somehow Thursday night, Thursday, let's say it. Let's say Thursday

noon to Thursday evening. You know, walk coming to the office on Thursday morning and being like, hey, you know, we did a little you know, kind of we had a big meeting where we ran through the whole schedule and kind of hammered out some of the last details that we needed to

for for guests and for setups and stuff. And you guys were well on your way to setting things up, and we were running cable through walls and yep, yep, and we had, you know, and then the all of the gear that we were expecting that we were renting from the show showed up like everything that we needed. It's here and awesome and it's like we're on our way to having a kick ass live show on Friday. Just put camera ready to go, plug it in, and no signal, no signal.

Ear all the cables I bought. Actually, it's just all eight the cables I bought dead on our eve. And this includes six one hundred foot we'd only run six of those. Oh Jesus, okay, just you had figured out at a certain point. No, we just I bought extra. I was like, okay, in case some of these are broken or something, all these some extra and all eight all eight dead. So what does STI stand for? Oh? I can't remember, make up something. That's

what they were, sibleles. I mean that's not like cable you just go to Walmart and get more of right, No, I wouldn't know where to locally. I mean yeah, I mean it's just wire within it. It just says. But it's not something that normal people need. It's like us no, no, So we couldn't just go out and replace them. I don't know that was bad. I was a model price order. Yeah, and usually they're fantastic, like, well, the thing is like a double

checked and a triple checked. After I bought them, I was like, man, did I buy the wrong cable, which would be highly unlikely because you know, they're just being c cables, which is the connector that's on the end. And I looked at the product number and I was like, no, this is exactly the same product we're using throughout our entire studio. I don't know, unless there's just been a bad run from the machine that came out and I have no idea, no idea, but yeah, because

you guys had to mcguy. You you're so luckily little connectors to rescue. So so luckily the day before some Monel price usually ships about twenty four hours. You can put the overnight, so like on Tuesday or Wednesday. The show starts on Friday. I was putting in order for just some extra stuff. It was the stuff for the PCs. It was the like the switch and some Ethernet cables so we could set up all those StarCraft PCs. And I was sitting there, I'm like, I should just, you know,

I should just buy some extra twenty five footers. Yeah, okay, so we'll buy like five twenty five footers just in case we have to go a little bit longer or something like that. They're not too expensive. Well they're gonna I mean the eight was like one hundred and twenty dollars worth of cables. Yeah, they were like ten bucks hundred and twenty dollars for eight hundred

feet of cable. Yeah. And when you put it like that, right, so wound up, you haven't use the twenty five footers and like connect those barrel connect those to make the two cables we were able to use. That was that was crazy. That was not fun. And then a bunch of converter boxes just blew up, blew up, a little converter boxes.

Exp That was the thing the lead into the CAPCOM segment, right, the capcom was the first all Yeah, that was that was the discovery, and then the and then the h and then while all that was happening, I somehow didn't put on a microphone or a microphone fell off or whatever happened. So the first yeah, so that was then going into the capcom. But luckily we were able to use component to come out of the three that so the big thing was the HDMI. What we used to capture HDMI was broken.

So that's why the iPad segment was the biggest thing because there's no no other way to come out of that. Which component I don't think. I don't think component does what you wanted to do. I think component might just be from movies. I'm not one because there is some logic going on inside the iPad that's just not like hey, I'll spit out the screen kind of thing, right, It's like it's like nomine, yeah, I'll send this

out. Uh So normally we do that HDMI and then that was that was that was I think I spent the most time on that during the entire show. Are about four or five segments. I was coming hopping back out and we were trying stuff out. The hell is going on? I was having I was having you and I think Thomas like lean back on the couch, like all right, I got a toss to this next segment here, duck down, get out of the way. And the biggest problem was there were

two boxes that failed. One was the one you plugged the device into and the other one was the device that we plugged into the TV and we usually connect those so actually two of those were broken. Not knowing that both of those were broken, being like, well, this one isn't working, but I assume this one's working. So I'm plugging everything else into that and we're nothing's working because not knowing that this device is totally broken, scramble go made

it work. And then we made it work. We shot stuff off a TV. I licked my fingers and touched two different things, and I knew something bad had come to pass when this morning I saw you with what is a volt meter? Volt voltimeter sticking sticking prongs directly into electrical outlets. Because I'm kind of like, how could this possibly happen? How could three out of three pieces of our gear just blow up? You know? So? Yeah, it was four thoughts, Three of those boxes exploded. Yeah,

power line man. So I was checking the power coming out of the wall, being like, is there like too much coming out of here? And then I was checking all the power adapters, the DC power dapters, is too much? Is there voltage coming in over the wires? Whatever? I don't know, man Drew, and I and and Thomas H who is interning right now for video stuff literally coming up with like uh JFK's style diagrams of how this could have happened? Who shot first? Did the shot come from

the grassy knoll? Uh? You guys try to figure out like, okay, was the last time that any of this stuff worked correctly? Yeah, let's walk through the crime scene of like did this guy touch this all? Right? Where did you responsible for? When? Did when? Did this box talk to this box? Maybe this is a and he's putting out it was just weird. I don't know. They're all getting sent back to different to like seven different vendors. Call Monel Price and be like, you sent

me eight cables. None of them worked? How ridiculous? Does that sound? Like? I want to only imagine the response on the other what you're plugging something in wrong? You don't know how to use a cable? No, I know how cables work. That's what I would say. It would be like I'd imagine someone ordering eight one hunt STI cables would know. I know, But like, wouldn't you assume that if somebody came back to you be like none of them worked, You're like, are you sure you're doing

the right? Are you sure sure you know? It's like it's like six out of eight, I'd be okay. Then there's obviously if you're able to get two of those working, then there's there's some sort of inconsistency with the materials. But if if full on fully none of them are working for you, then the only other thing I can imagine them being like is they probably wouldn't say it, but like, yeah, we know there's a whole batch like fucked overall odd people. Uh, that's the only thing you imagine,

like the machine messed up. It's like shorting out the cables of bad SDI cables off this off this line because they're wrapped, they're machine wrapped. I don't know if they test them whatever, I'm not sure. Model price is great. We buy a bunch of stuff from them. Yeah, I just had rescorse possible time that email. That's just like I know, I was shocked too. I know you're gonna be real weird and out when you're reading this email that says these eight cables are messed up. We tried them out.

Imagine we order enough stuff from them at this point that they're yeah, I'm gonna be like you've got the premium yeah points or whatever, diamond membership. They're like, hey, we'll give you the bulk rate even though if you order one thing. Now we order a lot of cables. Yes, I think it just you know, it's stupid, but maybe it's one of those things that I'm glad. I was like, I'll just order these just

just something's gonna go wrong. We're gonna need some extra cables. Extra, yeah, a couple extra twenty fives, and man, we used every cable and we did it, and we put on a show. Yeah, and you know, as long as it looked like nothing was on fire from the other end of the camera, I was happy. I was really happy this year. So it's crazy this year too. Not to spend too much time talking about the big live live show, but last year we did this with

three cameras. I was gonna say also, like like with all of these issues, like still get went in so much more prepared for this show. This year we did it with starting out with I think eight or nine cameras. This year, man, just three, five, six, Yeah, like nine cameras we have only had and last year we only had three inputs on the machine. But we did with three cameras, and then we have

all the gameplay direct feed stuff, so we were swapping cables. This year we're like, well, let's get extra cameras so we don't have to swap stuff. So we did the stupid thing of filling up all Now we have eight inputs, nine cameras and all the distilling still having back there. So there's a great document. Maybe somebody will put it up. Un told Drew

just to put it up. That's like six pages long. That between each segment runs down exactly what we need to do between okay Wall Jeff is playing uh street Fighter, or while the capcom segments going on, we're playing Marvel. Yeah we need to change Aux five for camera three, turn on this microphone, run to the backbar, swap camera seven with the barcam to all

the suff and it's just like literally goes down each segment. We were using two audio mixers because we had so many mics coming in, so Drew had them like a organist, you know, like either side. It was real fun in the control room. It's real fun time. I never saw it, but as you guys didn't look crazy. It wasn't that well. The only crazy part was out when like we said, the iPad stuff. That's

when I was like, when all that stuff just started breaking. I knew the first time that Vinnie ran out of the control room to the to the studio. Oh yeah, there's definitely a moment where I was like, oh man, what's he doing out here? Yeah? That was back there? Why is he back there? Because the show started off, I was real, it's colm. I was like, we got everything, we ran through

everything. It's walking around. I think I walked in when I'm looked for my coffee, like when you're doing that first dream, PAS like, yeah, we're good to go. And then as soon as it was like this isn't working at all, and then I was like, we'll use that. That's not working. We're out of things that those are the only options we have here and we're two hours into the show right anyway, fun show, Yeah, I enjoyed it. It's fun to fun to do, fun to

be part of it. So I collapsed this weekend. I was super exhausted from the whole week. Yeah, and I collapsed this weekend. But I did manage to beat the Witcher two. Wow. End of the Witcher Chronicles for now. Now I'm gonna play it all in Italian now what hidden? Yes, and it's native Italian how it was meant to be played. So that game is really good? Yeah, it end well? Yes, do you have any yes, compulsion to play it? Again to play it again.

Yes, yeah, I do so that game is that game is really good and they've never I don't think i've ever seen this before in a game. And maybe you guys can fill me in if I'm missing one. You make a choice about the part where the two ships you can capture one and put the met's gallagha doesn't that Oh yeah alright? Sorry, but like no, it's like, yeah, the little ship comes down, sucks it up. Yeah, it's an enemy, shoot at you. You you can even

kill it. You can actually kill your been done before. But it's got tits, right, Yeah, but full nude like this is yeah, this is everything. Well, I mean you know it's it's a little bit innovative. Is that white hair? Yeah? Man? About about a third of the way through, let's say it's like the end of chapter one there. I think there are three or four chapters. You make a choice. I'm gonna go with Ryan. I'm gonna go with Jeff. Right goes Ryan.

Ryan is the leader of like the rebels, and they have good cause. Let's say everything's kind of gray, right, so it's not like you're a terrorist. It's like, okay, I kind of see where you're coming from. And Jeff is the leader of like the police, who's like, you know, hey, I'm a cop. I'm but he also is like, you know, I'm kind of on the side of the right thing, but you know whatever, I've also got stuff going on. Uh, I'm the

law. So you can either go with the law, you can kind of go with the rebels and each and like again, it doesn't make you feel like, well, I'm gonna be the bad guy. I'm gonna go with Ryan. I'm gonna be the big guy. It's very gray. But so I was like, all right, well I had made some choices before, so I'm gonna gonna go with Ryan. Takes you to an entirely different path through the entire game, like different areas. You never see the stuff that

I would have seen with you. Uh, the stuff that you would have seen with me would have really changed your life, just everything I could have shown you. So this is actually a whole part of the game that I just did not You'd never see different areas, different zones, different character interactions that like that are happening simultaneously while I'm with Ryan. That part's going on.

And then I didn't wait around for you. You did your own stuff and the option, but you know, kept on go to move on with you. I was happy when I saw you again later on when you were with the other guy that you got. That was like, oh, good for you. You found somebody. Life is good. Now. I'm really happy for you. I just want you to be happy. I am. I'm happy, and I'm also happy for me. But you know you deserve to find someone. That's great. That's I'm glad you could finish the game

without me. Yeah, but I mean that's that's both like that's kind of everything that you would ask for in a like heavy choice driven kind of game of Like, no, it's not just like oh well, this guy acts kind of gruff towards you when you go and talk to him for this mission, he's gone. It's like no you are No, it's not even he's gone. It's like no, I am on the other side of this continent or something. So so that well, now you're actually like fighting against what

he's doing. Sure, so that part's really great. So the fact that like, hey, you want to play it again, you're not just gonna see like make the bad choice this time, that you'll be like play this entirely different sequence of events that would have played out that plays out, you know, simultaneous years, but you won't see it. Uh. So that's why I also like, I can't help but also think because that's, yeah,

that is great. That is demonstrably an awesome thing to do with a with a game where kind of the the I didn't feel like I had a short shrift or anything like that. So no, but I still can't help but think about, like the the developers who worked on you know, Hunt, you know, a dozen hours of quests or whatever for this other side that just you literally would never see. Well, you know, I think I think a lot of people play that game twice. I think it was

gonna wait, so you're gonna wait for the fancy edition. I might wait, I don't know. It was about forty five hours, and uh there's no new game plus kind of thing, which I kind of really do wish just for a game like that where you're like, well, I don't want to spend all that time going through and grinding out stuff again like making sure I have enough gold to buy this, which was never really big deal,

but like basically I just want to see the content. I don't want to do the leveling anymore, Like I just just let me go through the stuff I miss. A new game. Plus is called mods that make you invincible. Yeah those I think. Yeah, trainers, sure, which are two trainers? It's plus four or something like that. Health, gold swords. It's so weird. Why they all magic German? I don't know. Don't deal with trainers because they're always released by weird Swedish pirate groups. Hacker,

Yeah, it's always weak. We cracked the game and also released this trainer all right, Razor nineteen eleven. Bitch, that game is pretty good. It just gets better and better as you go on. The combat gets so much easier and better and better and better as you move on. I didn't have any of the problems I had in an early game. I don't think it's because I got better, because we all know that's not true. You just powered up. I just got better swords and suddenly, because yeah,

because that game is just like straight up fucking hard at the beginning. Well, they give you things like, oh, now you can block from all sides that you don't have in the beginning. It's also like plus you it's also like, hey, you won't take two hundred percent damage when somebody hits you from the back. So there's like stuff that eventually makes you reasonable against groups of people. Sure, yeah, because that group combat can be a

that's where it always falls apart. Yeah, hey you can counter now like stuff like that. Do I not die in like three sword strokes now? Because that was always no, it was just the bastard thing. Hey, that would I'd take it, man. So yeah, by the end of the game, I had no problem with any of the enemies of the combat. I didn't really want up using much of the magic or any stuff like that. But it was really it was a really really good game and very

well done. Dialogue is fantastic. So I Vinny Caravella's Witcher Game of twenty eleven. Is it Witcher or Witcher two? Oh? Man? Pick here? Yeah, I'm gonna make your pick, which is which is the better Witcher? I choose myself. I'm the best Witcher. I did it. I don't know, Like, how do you feel about the changes between the two games? Like, obviously they're so different? Really yeah, they really are very different. U. I'd say the Witch or two is the game

you'd want to play, and without having played the Witcher one. You're still gonna go through that fiction. You're still reading the books. I've only got that one one left until they translated. I'm not buying any other languages you did already though, I know besides that one. Okay, yeah, I'll read that Italian one. It'll take me like a year. But yeah, somebody sent me a friend of hers or his sent did translations. So oh nice. Yeah, say that goes the Witcher community is great? I bet

fantastic. I also So then after that, I was like, man, is I've been witch in a long time? From Whitcher one to Witch or two. It's been a while. What do I do with my life now that I saw you asking for recommendation? Yeah, I would side. Well, so I've got data sex, and I've got a copy of Catherine A. Bard from Joey uh Space Marine. And then there's something else, Castylvania, which I've got from game Fly. Oh god, really still send that back, dude. I kind of want to try it, But have you

ever put it in? You bought that game like at least twice over now, I was gonna say, you're still subscribed to game in game, what's what you're doing man, Casylvania, you gotta get no, no, send it back and I can't see a subscription? Were you doing? Are you doing waiting for them to rent out racing wheels? I bought Casylvania at least once from game fly in monthly fees. Yeah, so I know I might actually have two copies. You do You told me you did it like months

ago. Yeah. I didn't put it in yet, but I opened it up to look at him nice yeah, uh yeah it's a disc and I ended up playing Uh. I ended up playing Space Marine. I beat that. I kind of wanted to play some Space like after our quick look of it. That was so goddamn fun to watch Their game is fun. I was thinking, like, shit, I should like going how long I've heard it's not super Yeah, it probably clocked in about yeah, seven, Like

that's reasonable. I mean, especially receptable Camper would be happy to play that game for seven is hours and then played it through in one sitting. It was like, you know, just uh, it kind of moves and that's kind of all you want from that game, I think, because it's there's no like upgrade mechanic. Really no, you're not dumping points you're not getting experienced points from stuffing. I seems like within the first hour it has like, here's everything you can do in this game. Yeah, you got a

couple of different weapons. A little bit later on and you're getting some new bolters or so, did you get a war did you get a warhammer? I did get a warhammer, but I didn't really like using it. Yeah, it sounds about right because it limits you once you have the warhammer. It's very powerful, hope. So yeah, but you can't you can't use

two of your other weapons once you're using the warhammer. So yeah, so you can use your like your handgun, and you can use kind of one of your other little machine guns, but you can't use the kind of cool weapons like the Vengeance Launcher. I started reading a little bit just in the comments on that on that Space Marine. Quick look Marie space Marines, the Space Marines. God damn it. Those guys talk about space marines a lot.

Works Those orcs are very interesting, Yeah, and they're weirdly articulate about it. Everything else that just sounds like cockney gibberish on Space Marine. But then it comes to space Marines. Space Marines by the Space marines. Everybody knows them, and Jeff, I think you and I were having this conversation at some point, wouldn't they drop the space part? Yeah, like when everything's in space, they're just the marines. Well, yeah, it's just

their marines. Don't get confused with the old marines. Yeah, Like, are there non space marines out there that we have to keep referring to these ones? I've never heard about those. There are again, I guess those would also just be marines, but I think it's a nick true m I don't think it's their official name when they're ultratra marines. Yeah. No, marines are a specific ones you are. I think it's uh, I can't remember marine pronunciation. But it's like a star taste or something like that.

It's like a deptist. A star taste or something like that is like the official name. It's just Latin for fucking space marines. That's right, That's right. They had space marines in the Roman Empire. Well, they had the concepts of space and water. I mean everything in Warhammer is fake space romans anyway. Yeah, kind of space British plus space romans. It's very confusing times for everybody, and I do. Yeah, I appreciate the Space

British. There's a lot of Space British. So there are other troops that are the military that are not the Space Marines. H dudes, and they're funny because they're just hanging out dying and then like three space Marines and everybody's always psyched that awesome. Oh they're very great. Well, take over the planet. That's fantastic. Do you ever get to fight anything else? Is it too soon to ask that? Is that like a big spoiler? Now? I mean you have to just works right now? Okay, you do

you fight some chaos guys. They they even like they openly they hinted at like, yeah, multiplayers against chaos, right, But it's not like they're like, here's the here's the Tyrannist chapter, here's the Elder chapter. Like you're not fighting everybody from that universe. Okay, who space Marines too? This time it's Spice Marine a game. So that game moves. Uh, that game moves. I do wish that there were a couple of more just

the animations for those like close up cinematic kills. Yeah, because you do go through those charging moves. Yeah, you have to do those right, Yeah, yeah, you kind of have to do those and there's only like a couple of animations for they're awesome. They're awesome animations, which they could see that getting tiring after a while. Yeah, but man, the weapons

just are so satisfying to shoot. So so I was saying, I was reading some of the comments on that on that quick look and some people kind of explaining some of the tech and think and are you saying that we have tech priests posting to our message of wards people talking about like the makeup of a shell that comes out of the boulter, and the bolter is like your lowest level it's basically your infinite AMMO handgun. And like each one of those

is basically a fucking like bomb. And yeah, like a like a missile that you should have a missile launcher. Those are just the bullets and talking about the casing and this arm armor piercing. But then it has like a delay mechanism so that they don't explode until they're inside the targets to like so they like a split second after impact is when they actually detonate, Like each one's just like a little bomb. But the but these the guns sounds very

much. And when you hit dudes and they pop, like it's just like there's a lot of fun. Uh yeah, the melee stuff is kind of fun, but that's not the part that Actually if that game we're all melee, I think we're gonna be completely boring, Like you don't feel the impacts like you do when you're just shooting those guns off. But they but they struck a good balance. I think they did, because it's basically you dump

until you're a gun and they just charge. A lot of the guys just charge at you, so you're just dumping off your gun until they're getting close enough and then you kind of whack them with your whatever melee weapon you have and they're eventually gonna have to roll out of the way because they're gonna swarm

you, and you can reload and just start dumping guys again. But man, it's super fun when they're charging you and you're just unloading, and if you're pretty good with headshots, you can try and like just watch dudes heads explode as like a horde of guys are running in trying to get you. And that's one And also just when a guy starts trucking and you turn run on. It's just a really weighty animation. So just barreling into a guy

and doing a shoulder charge and watching and explode. Then it's it's pretty fun. It's a lot of exploding. Uh, it does get pretty difficult. I thought the combat was a pretty easy and tol about eighty percent of the way through, and then it's started getting kind of tough. Started crowd management stuff. Just when they start shooting back. Yeah, it's like, oh, now these guys have guns and like the lightning bolts out of their hands.

Then it's started getting really chaos. Yeah, and it was like crap because any basically fighting other space, right, it's just like lesser dudes. No, it's like now you're fighting yourself and that was hard. I didn't try any of the multiplayer stuff, but yeah, the campaign moves, it's good. It's it's it's kind of heartwarming. How public opinion sort of turned positive on that game. Yeah, in the last like a couple of weeks or whatever, because I mean, you know, the business in the press

two or three months ago. What was that back in like May? Yeah, yeah, it was coming out of the just coming out of that pre three Judges thing that I was at was kind of ugly, where everyone was dead tired because it was the last event of the week, so I think a lot of people weren't in any condition to be looking at games in the first place. But on top of that, that game they made, the demo they gave was one of the most boring things I've ever seen because they

made it look like Gears of War with no cover. So it's like, here's Gears of War without the mechanic that made Gears of War. So it's just like, okay, so I just run forward and fucking shoot these guys. Like it just looked like the dumbest game in the world. I think it's I think it is kind of dumb, but I think that's okay.

But it didn't look I don't know, maybe it's just the area they were showing, or they were stopping to show weapons and stopping to show stuff too often or something like that, but it was just a really terrible demo that didn't give you a good sense of the actual pace of that game. Great games can't absolutely get shit demos like that's especially if you were still in not even saying this is great, but I'm saying, you know, that's yeah,

that happens. But yeah, if yeah, if you want to know why, Like everyone was super down on Space Marine coming out of that stuff because that demo looked like garbage. Well and also but also the game I played on the PC, it looks really good too. Also looks really nice. It looks really nice. And title screen, what's that for? Pretty? Just dude shooting dudes, shooting dudes over and over again endlessly. That's his ya, that's his hell on Earth. Uh, you know, And

there's some story in it. I don't think. I don't think the story is spectacular, but you know, there is something there. There's something that I feel like, I feel like you're just becoming I think, like with with your pre forty K fiction reading that you've been doing, I feel like all this is just confusing you. Like there's not there's nothing in there to get confused about. It's like there's space marines. There's space marines. They're

on this world. They need you're on this world. You're trying to protect this asset from the bad guys. Yeah, and there's you know, that's it do it? I mean there's stuff in there that I feel like if your way into the fiction is really rewarding, like, oh, that's a titan, Like that's awesome. You get to see an actual titan, like walk around on it, and like what is because even in the books that I'm reading, like titans are just like basically these walking uh world destroyers.

Like you drop like one or two titans onto the world and it's like game over for the bad guys. They're just these ridiculous I don't know, epic units. I guess you would call them if it were like an RTS, it would be the thing you build last at the end of the tech tree. Uh. So to kind of see it in the game after reading all these descriptions about have raised always an awe when they see one, and they're they're crazy, you know. It's kind of cool size of an aircraft carrier,

Like what are we talking? But it's like I think they're always on like two legs, and basically they're big. They're big enough that it takes like like lots of people to operate it, like they're inside it like walking around. Uh they're they're they're big, they're gigantic, you know. But most of the stuff is based off of books and tabletop stuff, So who knows what the cannon is. I'm sure there's some tabletop book that's just expects

yea, the life size one. So that's cool, and you know, I'm sure, like you know, they mentioned stuff like that codex and stuff like that. That is like for people who are in on the fiction. That's like, you know, interesting to see some fan service. But I just like the action. Really did play it with a controller, and I think that's the way to play that game. Yeah. The time I spent playing it with the mouse was it just didn't feel right. Yeah, I

don't know. Is the demo available like on the on PC? Sure? Because I got it with the you know, by pre ordering it early, they should put it out if it's not for everybody. I don't know. Is your demo in the three six down? Yeah? Okay, yeah, check it out. I mean, I bet the demo will get you a good feel for it. But I wouldn't I wouldn't dismiss it just because it's forty k There's some good action stuff in it, uh and the like there's no snap to cover, but you will have to go behind a wall,

right, ye, walk behind stuff? Yeah, you don't want to get shot. You have to run away everyone in a while. Your you never run away space space rain never runs away, spacially never runs away. You walk backwards sex next man. I don't know. I wish there was just another game, like just shoot dudes pop out. Yeah, well Gars, like you were saying, Gear you you really want to see them again. If I could have popped Gears in, that's what it would have been.

You did not get your fill of that from Space Range. No, I'm I'm going they are not. It is not the same again. But but I'm looking to Gears. I'm really excited to finish Gears of War. I want to close that big. You almost sound like you wanted out of your life kind of well, you know, it's like one of those things like they set up all this weird stuff in two that was like what is going

on Gears of War? Like the Lamb and the you know dudes that are glowing and exploding because they're in the oil too much and the planet is imploding and it's all crazy stuff going on. So I just want to see where it ends, uh, or if it ends, or if they put Marcus in an escape pod and shooting him across the galaxy or whatever. That's the game High five Tag Team Wrestlers, and then in some crazy universe wrestling league with Vince McMahon Space McMahon. Yep, Space McMahon. So yeah, I'll

play that game if I could have populate you. You wish you had something that you just shoot and have dumb stuff happen. I don't want to have to make choices. I really, I've made so many choices in games and das actually have to make choices, Catherine. I'm sure you have to make plenty of choices. I was gonna say, and you have to make the choice to play Castlevania coming off of choice, You're probably choiced up. I'm a little choice. I'm inventoried up to pretty choice inventory. Don't give me.

I don't want to put anything carry, So no Dead Island for you. Then I was thinking about buying them on PC? Is that all? Is that to go? Now? Version seems to be pretty much fun though, I don't know, dude, it's still a black screen play on that. Man, they put out another patch. How long has it been since you tried I tried it last night, man, Yeah, I was thinking about getting at this point. It probably is the dual monitor thing. And you know, every time I say something about it, people say like,

dude, just don't plug your monitor. No, I don't want to play it. That bad Hard Reset, I think, is what I'm gonna do next. Okay, that would be stuff. Yeah, I played a little bit of Hard Reset. It was all the same stuff that we had played in the quick look. But that's still the game still is awesome. Yeah, and I bought that you know Steam those those things now or it's not even like a pre order bonus. It's like, hey, get like twenty

percent off right right now. I'm like, well, I'm gonna probably buy it when it comes out. So it was, yes, you got me, here's here's twenty seven here's twenty seven bucks. And the game is and that game seems like it's just straight up about like run down this path and shoot shit. Yeah, I just gonna fly out at you and then you're gonna blast all these robots. Enjoy the visuals while yeah, everything's gonna look crazy and blow up real good. So that's a good explosions. Yeah,

that's that's a good fit. That's a good fit. And then I've got I haven't seen much of that game. I really it looks cool. You should check it up here and here an old school first person shooter actually played pretty It's got a little bit of blade ruddery, like a lot of neon.

That sounds exciting. It seems like, I don't know, like like thath alright, like if you know, late nineties first person shooter design just hopped a decade, m like just but in a good way, like very like limited in scope, like it's you're always in kind of a tight corridor running down some you know, towards something like pain Killer. Yeah, yeahs yes, okay, sure. Do you like guns? That's one of the things I didn't like my pain Killer was the setting and all that. Do

you like Do you like robots are better? Do you like guns that you never have to reload? Yeah? Sure, that's the transform like having one gun that transforms and all of your guns because you only have two guns, but you buy upgrades for them to turn your two guns into three guns eat, so that you have six kind of vanquishy with transforming guns. Yeah, a little bit, but you but you have like basically your regular AMMO gun

and your energy weapon gunn. Do you like ridiculous menu? My god, ridiculous video animations that take it at the beginning though, where literally I never want to change my screen resolution ever again, because it took me like a minute and a half just to get to that robotic arm. And they're just these like data slates in the floor and the wall that the robotic arm has to pick out of the wall out and then put down. And that's like

one minute that It's like going from like mains like options. Right from options there's video audio game. Man, I'm like, okay, I want to go to video all right, then I have to go and grab the other slate and put it in. It's like very detailed, smooth animation with lots of little kind of characters to it. Kind of sounds okay. The game world you are is awesome, though, it's all like holographic projected stuff. You like walk up to it and suddenly you're controlling a mouse with your mouse.

Anyways, Yeah, good contextual stuff with that. It looks good it but I was just having crazy performance issues, Like I was just having it hit like I'd played that Come on PC before and it's been fine, and no, it's just it was changing up a lot. But then I was also trying to play a build a FEZ and I was getting the same thing there, and that game is it shouldn't be that. Yeah, that game should not do that to your PC or to my PC. At least it's

it's good enough. I've also got that I've downloaded. But maybe we'll maybe we'll try and quick look at or something. Because I haven't seen any of it that ann yeah, yeah, probably to you. I have not played it like the singer. Yeah, it's like a time travel e RTS. I know, I don't people keep seeing that. What does that mean? I don't know. I've watched the movies of it, and I haven't really

understand the units. I think you're in your units back in time. If you fuck up, you're fighting on the fourth dimension or rewinding the whole battle. I don't think you are, or just the the units, you know what I'm I'm gonna stop talking about it because all I did was watch a bit of a trailer and went like, all right, I see RTS units and then they moved somewhere else because time. Yeah, and then I stopped

watching it quickly because it sounds super interesting. Yeah, could could change the game, man, We need a game changer for the RTS genre, just any any kind of game changer. Change the game. We did in turn to get up and put a new disc in the system is what he's saying. Please change the game if you just put in anything else, anything else. So that's what I did. Witcher and Space Well, congratulations on finishing

the Witcher too, Thank you very much of your life. I don't know when I would play it again, but it definitely sets you up to play it some more. I am excited to. I'm glad also glad that you finished Space Marine. I'm kind of bummed that I did, but I'm glad I did. I actually because I really just enjoyed playing. Yeah, that sounds like it looked like and that's not a game kept up. I need

to play again. No, it definitely doesn't sound like it. And I am excited to hear your future thoughts on hard Reset because I think that's a good fit. Yeah, and it sounds like it's super long either from what i've what reports I've heard, so not a lot of choices. No, well there is you know, your upgrade path. Yeah, that's fun, and there's also like crazy hidden areas in that game. So I do want to play Dato sex. That game sounds awesome. I actually want to play

Driver as well. It sounds pretty cool, and also want to play Resistance as well, a lot of games. And it's not slowing down that much. So Gear's out next week, yeah and speeding up. I bought that copy. It's coming on Tuesday one Amazon. Would you get the special fancy what's the what are the fancy Gears? There is a steel book edition and epic edition. What's the one that's six hundred dollars? That's the console? Okay, next, what's what's that? That's that's not even just the console.

That's the console plus a bunch of bundle bullshit. And it's actually really center Bucks because it's like here's the Gears, you know, like well that yeah, so yeah, if you want to dumb it, you're trying to figure out, like what the that's just the mist a retailer bundle. That's not a real Okay, that was like that's not an actual game, stop like specific bundle. Then I think, yeah, but there's still a Gears console, right, Yes, there's a Gears console that comes the game.

So the bundle was that, and then on top of that, like a headset and a bunch of other cracks. Okay, but the but the console that Microsoft is selling is just the game and a fancy painted console, and three twenty already exists. That's the Yeah, but they gotta have something because Star Wars got pushed back, so they can't put that or assume they are not. I think that Star Wars they did push back the console system. But yeah, all those all those console bundles, the star Wars one,

the Gears one, and I believe the Modern Warfare one or twenties. So the big, the packing big thing is a figuring that's like the Yeah, the Epic Edition comes with like a Marcus Phoenix figure, Okay, and removable do rag? No, you don't want to see what's under there? I saw it, really, I guess we can't talk about it. Yeah, well, all right, so I'm done talking about the games. I'm gonna

play. I can't. Yeah, I mean, so I will say that that Epic Edition is probably like one of the best like collector's editions kind of thing. Like there's some just super well made shit in there, like like like the the styrofoam that that is pack that they used to pack the figures has like the cog in it and stuff like they went to lengths to make even the stropham look good, which is kind of a weird thing. But like, is there anything you'd actually use like well packaged? Yes, yes,

extremely well packed. No. I mean I'm not a big figure collector and stuff like that. And there's no like books. There's no book or like the Halo stuff or it's like here's this diary that like nothing. Okay, I think it's more trinkets and stuff. Right, there's there's like a mark a statue like the box. Actually the game I'll show it to you. That space Marine thing was pretty cool too. That weird was it that the Collector is a giant book with it's a big gass box. But it

like I can't put that stuff on my shelf anymore. Yeah, yeah, totally done with it. Disks on. But I do like I do like a steelcase. I like those. Yeah. It's like there's three three versions of a regular version, some kind of steel book edition, and then this epic one. I think the steel book probably comes with the in game stuff. If I had to guess, oh yeah that that also comes to the opic one. That's how I would break it. Up anyway, it knows

I dis ordered the game and you just want Gears of War. I think I think Amazon may have given me some domb skin or something. I don't know, it's like some pre ordering domb skinless. I'm not going to grill you on any any gear stuff, but let's say I'll talk about it on Thursday. Yeah, Thursday when the Barker is up for review stuff. Look, and you know I gotta write that. Yeah, yeah, Gear's of War three man, yep, that is a video game. It's gonna come

out soon. And then I also played a whole bunch of Forts of four, but yeah, also can't say. You can't say that until way longer story. Yeah, I can't wait to see what they do. That's yeah, where this is all headed? The fourth end? Final Forts finish the fight for four? What does what does that speed line want? Find out? Ferraris to the end. You find out why it's been changing colors for

all these games, launched a Ferrari into space across the universe. Anytime you need to just wake it up. That's how the gonna tie that ward hog into the Forts. Didn't know this, but it's gonna cross the stream fell onto forts the World master chiefs just playing Yes, Forts the World. Fortune does not take place on Earth, it turns out, no, that's where there are no drivers in those cars. Takes place on a world of No, they're totally drivers in those cars. There are cockpit VI you see hands,

you do, there's just hands. Do you ever see their head? The windows are all tinted, right, No, you can. You can tint the windows if you But I don't know. Yeah, no, I think you actually do see people in these cars. Helmets, you know, just helmeted. Random model. It's not any kind of you don't pick your dude, I guess I shouldn't say one way or the other. I mean, yes, the universe, the fourths of verse. You do not, you know, pick a driver? Is that this year? Yeah? That's

October? Man, give me to buy another race. You have that new racing wheels specifically for this thing that I think might actually work across all platforms. I don't think Microsoft is making used ones. That sounds crazy. Yeah, I either think it might just be a generic UOUSP device or something like that. I think it might be well whatever, maybe they'd sell. I want to say they partnered with someone that makes wheels the the cross platform way,

so it might actually might actually happen this time. One wheel to drive them all. There you go, sold, don't buy racing wheel. I would buy that racing don't buy I would totally just buy it. Why because we need to test it out. Buy that racing wheel. Hey, you know what, Vinny changing my mind? Buy that racing wheel. I wonder if I buy if I buy the forts a wheel, can I use that with the ward hog for a wheel if it will make me happy? It's

worked with everything else. Spending money on yourself is the only way to come on these fifteen touch fads I brought. Now I'm happy finally for the next twenty minutes, and then I gotta go. I gonna go buy some burger. Yeah, that'll make me happy. Get this book at a chicken. Don't talk about it. I was happy for like five minutes. Now I was just really depressed. But now it can only be happier again after this Moment's right, You're you're happy because you didn't eat any of that KFC that

was in the office today. Hell yeah, I am. Once a year is enough, Actually three times a year is enough. The piece that I had is will count as my once every probably two years or something. Actually, you're not a big KFC. No. When I do go, I don't actually get like chicken pieces of chicken. I'll get like chicken sandwiches or something like that. And it's actually also an AMW so I'm just as likely you get some hot dogs, play fried cheese curves. Yeah, camped,

I wish the arc spook like that bays Marine player. Don't try and take us down. So yeah, that's uh, that's most that's that's what you played. Yeah, yeah, basically, and then also more track Mania two, which is a really good game to play for seven minutes at a time. If if you're just like I just want to play something right now, and you play Rongo, all right, I'm satiated. I can go move on with my life for a bit now, subsided, Yes, and then

two hours later I could play That's weird. That's exactly how I approach StarCraft, like play like one match of the time, like all right, I'm good. Thirty minutes to two hours later, I'm right back there again. Yeah, go for another It's really it's really good for those kind of weekends where it's just like I'm just sitting here waiting to die. All right, I'll play the track Madia soon the minute. Basically I could go to bed early and then Monday would become I can just go to work because I have

to do that. That's track Media, not track Mania that came out. No, it's it's totally Yeah, they were saying the fourteenth I guess, but that's that's real soon and they haven't updated their blogs. There's been an update to the beta at least, so work is progressing. But yeah, it's it's you've received you've received content updates. Yes, no, no, not beta. No, it's it's not even a content update because there's really

there's no content in this beta. I think. I don't know if it's shipped with any track, but I mean it's all just made by players. I mean you downloaded a thing, that downloaded the thing in Beta four and yeah, I don't know. That's I guess. I guess. When I say content, I mean like just code like anything. Yeahs of something that that changed what happens when a race ends? Old Gifts just plays Kokomo,

Yeah, over and over, Yeah, pretty much Cinney Crawford Gifts. But yeah, that game is still a whole lot of fun, and that's still Canyon. Yeah, that's Canyon Yeah. And shoot Manias after this, I don't believe that exists. I don't I don't believe shoot Mania or what's the quest Mania quest Mania. I don't believe either of those exists even any form

storm. I believe shoot Mania and quest Mania are both bullet points at best right now, until the universe has merged and I could drive a car through somebody's I know, I swear that they had European press, Like it would be right, it would be cool to it's European press, but sure it would be cool to even just be doing a first person shooter while you see crazy cars driving around in some distant things, and I feel like that's it's

more compelling in this setting then, like you know, there's the the you know, dust and evonline connection stuff. Yeah, but this is such a bananas, Like calling track Mania a universe in of itself is an absurd thing to say, because like this is barely a level many a planet. Man, it's all one thing. Like what if you get in your car and drive to the track Mania getting and then you're like, I'm done with this drive and I'm gonna get out of my car, gonna drive to where the

people are shooting. Well, that would be great, jump out of my whip and just start shooting. Do I read some of the stuff and it's all like translated from you know, French or you know, like whatever whatever it is. There were a lot of previews that English languages that people were translating and stuff like that. So I was reading a lot of like machine translated stuff about what shoot Mania is. So it's really hard to even tell

what it is. But I think there might only be one weapon. I don't even know, Like I can't even tell what the hell is going on in that thing. And that such reasonable. And you shoot cars at people, so like cars as the AMMO. Yeah, it's a gun that shoots cars. You actually shoot track mania tracks that people are driving on at the time. That's how crazy. And so it's really is you're shooting tracks and then the cars are driving the cars finish a lap by the time they hit

the target. Is how much damage it does? Maybe you're shooting piece still, but there's but it's also like crowdsource dice rolls because it's also quest Mania at the same time, So you're getting your XP. You're shooting pieces of the track that people have to drive on while people are already driving on it, So you're just cutting out the section. And if they happen to be driving on that section while you're shooting that track, then you get that damage

bonus. All right, I play that game. Yeah, all I know is that I tried to use the track editor in the track of the previous track Mania and couldn't make sense of it, and tried to use this one in track Mania two and still camp. I was gonna say, I was giving a flat track that you know, turns and twists and stuff like that. But everything we're talking about is is an appropriate level of crazy for track Mania, but it is inappropriate in functionality based on what I've seen of track

Mania over the years. Like that game is awesome, that game also barely functions. It functions just fine. It's it's uh, come on, come on, like it's it works in spide it like you have two hundred people on one server. There are things about it that are extraordinary, absolutely, but it's also like you're like, wow, like the sacrifices that had to have been made in focusing just on let's see how many fucking cars we can

get on this track at once. So when they promise you a world, a universe of track Mania, yeah you just what are you talking about? This is your response is you've hardly got a game out the door kind of kind of, I guess just for as long and as much as as you know, track Menia two has been talked about, and you know, we are at barely a beta, like and it's it's I mean it's it's it's

an honest beta. But yeah, totally Yeah, the multiplayers in there, it's it's solid X servers and to your point, that's probably pretty much what people want. But like, also, you know you've said that that's the pretty much have made track Menia again again. Yeah, I mean all new handling model, which is actually it is a really huge change on that. But you know, yeah, in terms of just like what the game is and and all that stuff, yeah, it's it's pretty much same. I'm

not even you know, I I have no issue. I take no truck against the like the no clipping stuff like, that's that is a design choice. I get it. That's fine, and that's fundamental to what that game is. And it works to the ends of that game. But yeah, fucking track media, fucking quest Media's surprised there were any guns and shoot media, it's just faceball. I'm in faceball. We never played any faceball during this now, No, weally did? Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean,

okay, how was that? What do you think the definitive version of faceball is? Game Boy? Yeah? I don't know. Wasn't that the four didn't used the four players? After my crazy? That? Did it? Totally? Did? I try and think of all of the platforms though faceball appeared on it seemed like it was kind of a lot there for a while. Yeah, it was kind of everything Spectrum hollow By joint on this nest, wasn't Yeah, well was that faceball or faceball two thousand? That's

no, there's no difference. It's just there's just the one tricking me by making me think there was a previous nation to faceball by calling it a faceball two thousand. Yeah, those sons bitches special hollow By. I hope you're burning hell. They already are. It's cool, Brad, they don't exist. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Game developer Hell Falcon five point o

coming to sleepy chicken brad dude. Combination of fried chicken and track menia discussion speaking your eyelids just drop its conspired to shut down my brain, right, you got to you got to get a little can't handle it pro StarCraft two action on during the live show on Friday. Yeah, and then you guys got your got your asses whipped in your dog pile. You were the first

one knocked out. Yeah, our own demor and bunker rushed me, and I didn't catch the bunker until the hair's breadth of a second too late. You were you playing under your own account? Yeah, so he knew who he knew to go get your account name? Yeah, okay, yeah. Well but also it's just the way we spawned. I spawned right next to him, so I was the first person. He's still I think he just went for the first person he could get to. Almost I almost repelled him.

Not blown my horn here, because I mean, it's not that hard to do. It's just a matter of timing anything that would have changed. All I had to do was killed the SEV that was making his bunker before he finished it, and he couldn't put marines in it. And I had zealots out and that would have been it, but you didn't, and he barely danced that sev out of there. I think he brought another one over and finished the bunker off, and at that point there was nothing I could

do. Speaking aways, Jeff, I, now we're calling you. Also played a little Ultimate Marvel versus Capcom three I did during that big live live show. Anything about that experience, well, I wasn't playing it so much as as we were just kind of talking about characters and showing stuff off. So was kind of showing off some specific moves, so I didn't necessarily get

a match in or anything like that. Okay, yeah, you know, it's it's it's like the bullet points on the press release say they're adding characters and spectator mode and and all that stuff, and and it's still kind of a crazy game. So we'll see if this is this game kind of gets back in the good graces of like the fighting game community, you know, because it's needs some some shuffling to uh give it some longevity. So yeah,

it's gonna take more than just new characters like that. You know, they are doing some rebalancing and adding moves to characters and stuff like that. So kind of see if if a lot of people still bitching that X factors in it at all or the way X factor works, even though they are changing up some of the ways that are changing up the way that X factor works in the game. So yeah, all right, not much to report

there other than it's got some dudes in it. Cool wait dudes? Yeah fight Mania, I mean yeah, yes, one yeah, one move and no clipping and you fight on the roofs of the cars. Great cars are the fighters, man, just like fighters Mega mix. I know it's been done. It's a proven formula. Brandon Jeff, You guys also got to play a little Johan's Boston jouse. It was awesome during the live show. Yeah, I mean it's been places where it's been played, but yeah,

maybe a little too self conscious to play it. Then you start drinking. I was not drinking for you, but but on a live stream in front of nine thousand people. Actually I didn't I had played the night before the show. I didn't even know were you not? Were you not? You know. By the time I got back there, there was already controllers were taken. I was like, I could go push one of these interns down take controller, but I forget it. Take then you win? So how

many people were playing five? And sure, okay, I don't think it can go up to eight because the Bluetooth limit is seven devices. I think my favorite part of that entire game is this sound it makes when you hit the button boom. Yeah yeah, well I like both this that noise and also when you knocked out they had a crash noise. Oh that's a great noise. That well's I mean, that's all that game. It has a sound design, so it's good that it's great the minimal parts that has do

you sound good? I don't like the music so much, like that aspect of it. I feel like, you know, that's that's something that they should give some options on. Take some other Well. I can understand based on the name of the game. The spirit of the game is absolutely but you know, just it w give me like a heartbeat that speeds up and slows down or can you just use your own song and I'll just slow down? I bet, I bet that's something that it will actually do eventually.

Sure, yeah, but that game is still so like being developed into Like you know, Patrick contacted the guys who are working on it, and they gave us a build and they said, yeah, this is kind of the most recent build we have and it's you know, it's a little over sensitive. They had you know, prefaced so with like yeah, like with calibration on this stuff because you know, having to they started off using we remotes

for this this project. And then they're like, well we get better sensitivity out of the you know, the the fidelity of movements better on a move controller. So you know, went to that and I guess, yeah, there's the colored ball. Yeah, having the little colored balls and and be able to use that because that one lets you do that's what lets you do team play, right, So I guess you'd probably find a way anyway. Yeah, I think there's still so in development that just figuring out kind of

it's a fun little party, basic calibration stuff. It is fun. We we uh. They booted up after the show in the back of the bar. There had to be at least i'd say, what fifty sixty people back there, and like it just it's all the tired and the entire throng of people just like formed around the game once start being played. I mean, you're you're talking about like accessibility to it's hard to even call it a video game really, but it was just like do you want to try it?

Here we go, what do you do? Just don't move it quickly? Great when the music slowed out quickly, it was fast. You can move more quickly, but still because everybody was loving jumping in there and giving a shot, like boys and girls. A lot of Patrick got his shoes off again. Some food, what's the food's already getting thrown. It's just escalated into yeah, and then somebody took a die. Something happened and we shot that. Somebody took a dump back there like there was there was some there's

a point, something happened. They were like, all right, parties over, Yeah, time to go shut it down. But yeah, so anyway that was happen, it does get rowdy really quickly. Then those guys first sending some code. First time I've wanted to buy a move controllers Sony would be fucking foolish and not be courting those guys to get that onto their system. Somehow. I don't know that that thing just seems like lawsuit way to happen, but for to for anyone who does it commercially, Yeah, if

you have that hit. Yeah, they would have to do it where they would have the warning that comes up on screen, yeah, or they would have to do it where it integrates with the p S three and the whole hitting part is gone. And it's like, now do these activities like touch your head but move really slowly and like you know, touch your toes, move really slowly. Like that's what I could see them doing and getting rid of the whole as soon as you start. Soon as you start levying platform

restrictions on that game is when you ruin that game. Yeah, because and and also like locking it to something somewhere near a television in a lot of ways too, Like they have a video up on their site of them playing it at the beach. You know, Patrick has played it like like Golden Gate Park or you know it's like parks hopefully speakers, yeah, I don't know to be able to hear it. Like that's the appealing part to me, is like bringing it somewhere and making it kind of an outside thing,

right, And I think that's part A lot of people don't know. It's like I don't think it should be spread out as many platforms as possible, but yeah, we'll see as one of the most compelling things I've seen. Like, you know, like Brett said, done with a move control. I wonder if you could bluetooth all those move controllers to an iPhone or other

phone and then run. Well, the better question is if is if you can use they need to get it to the point where my iPhone phone is the is the device or I don't have to have move controllers, or it's you know, you figure it out so that I have one kind of Bluetooth device, you have another kind of Bluetooth device. Everything that has some sort of motion sensing in it, and it's you know, been appropriately calibrated. So I'm just thinking about how we have this weird manager of your phone,

serious risk phone. Then well, I don't know. I mean, we had people throwing shoes at the controllers people were holding and stuff like that. It's just, yeah, it's a good way to get your phone broken. Don't say it's assholes. I guess that's the only play with assholes. It's the best way to play than yes, share start flying. I flung that chair at Brad. I was like, you know, this game is pretty

cool. It works. Then I was out of the game. See, if they were to tweak the sensitivity and put it up, that game gets a lot more violent, like where like the thing doesn't register until you're actually like on the ground, right, Yeah, hitting someone in the face. I guess that's yeah. I guess you can. You can either make that game more just like nicer or way meaner based on how you slide that sensitivity. No, I have to I have to punch hardy, or at least

punch the controller. Yeah he was anyone for the controller, but I got your face. I got you right in the solar plexus. Sorry, still creed, bitch. Fuck you took yourself out this blow it over here, Brad. Anything else dead Islands? Yeah that islands still dead before stars, I guess yeah, to put up in spite of its fucked up up with a bunch of bullshit. I don't want to say you should play that game, but if you're into loot and stuff, you probably should even playing it

with you. You know. It's as much as I don't like zombies, like when we're playing co op, the game seems legitimately awesome, and it's a shame that it has so many different issues? Are they patchable issues? Mostly yeah. Yeah, I continue to have more weird stuff going on. I had a quest completely disappeared from my quest log at one point, which is fine, but I think the game was just getting me back for the time that it gave me credit for a quest that I never did. So.

But the combat is pretty cool, yeah yeah. And it's a good looking world. Yeah, it looks really nice. I love getting experienced extra experience for breaking the bones of the enemies before I killed them. But I will say again the opening that game, they broke it. They fucked up. That intro is terrible like that. There's the whole intro where there's the guy rapping on stage, but you can play as that rapper, and the when you start the game, it picks up from the end of that intro

video, so it's like you're waking up. I mean, if you if you are the rapper that you did through station video or that intro contains every one of the four playable characters in it doing stuff, well, see, then none of them are the person from who's perspective. If you are seeing the intro, it's like the smack, my holy it's totally messed up.

But I mean there are plenty of times in the game where even if you're playing by yourself and you hit a cut scene, you will get a cut scene with all four of those characters in it, interacting and doing stuff as if they have been rolling around as a unit the entire game. A bunch of the NPC's address you as a group of people even when you're by yourself.

That's hard. I mean, you know, like you know, better higher budget games make those mistakes too, of just like like how to word the cut scenes or having cases where uh, you know, someone says, hey, you need to go hit that switch, and it's the guy you're controlling, and then you go hit that switch. It's like you're telling yourself to go hit the switch. I mean that that's yeah. But this is constant, Yeah, like here and there. It is constant throughout that game.

It's just it's bizarre. Anyway, that's a weird game. I messed around with the new Xbox dashboard. Yeah, I want to talk to you about that because I've seen some screenshots and I know you and Patrick went to this meeting with Microsoft, Yes, and it looks significantly different what it is, does it? What it is is it seems like an effort to bring the Xbox dashboard in line with the Metro initiative at Microsoft, which is like

the Windows Phone interface. Then the Netflix app interface like those like it has that same stuff across the top like that's yeah, so yeah, there are some elements so that the text input, although they didn't know there's already been some stuff on the Xbox. They don't have that in so yeah, the way you find the way you input a text like when you bring up the

on this kind of tangent. But the on screen keyboard is the one out of the current Netflix app on the sixty, although they they were not sure if that would be retroactive across everything that uses text input ever on the Xbox, like old games. They weren't sure it's operating differently that that's keyboard. Yeah, yeah, it's well, the Netflix one is just a straight line of twenty six letters and yeah, that's which takes way longer than the one

that they have. But it's more responsive, which is kind of the common theme of this thing, and navigating it is super responsive. It feels as snappy as the XMB on the what about up the pop up guide same basically the same. I did a quick launch, So that's one of the things I forgot to check. But they've get ahead of myself there. But it's bratt till me. It's not like one like the like making quick launch the

main thing sounds like it's one of the Yeah. Yeah, all I was saying about the metro thing is it's it's Windows fun seven and then also the Windows eight like big tile interface, Like they're all basically the same thing, like the kind of design wise, like the philosophy is the same. But yeah, the quick play thing is on the front page of I assume it's what it takes you to when you log in, you know, right now you go to the spotlight, which is terrible because it's nothing but adds right

as opposed to the thing with all the functionality on it. Right, So I think the default thing now actually has some functionality, which is a nice

change. It's supposedly, I guess looking at Patrick's story and talking to him something about it, like that's supposed to are that basically replaces the game library option that you would have off of the Yeah, there's still a way to get to that because the quick play thing is still like the quick launch now it only shows the most recent like ten things that you did, but the

big changes that they added apps in there. So like if you have done if Netflix was one of the ten last things you ran, you can launch that out of the quick play just like you can a game, which is which is much needed. So the metro stuff is geared towards touch screens, isn't it isn't that kind of like big big blocky things that kind on the phone. Definitely? And yeah there and Windows eight. Windows eight is like bound for tablets, so is that is that something that you feel like the

connect is going to be more suited, So yeah, there's need. Yeah, there's no connect hub now, like you can navigate this interface with the connect okay, just like you can with the controller, but just gotta wait for the connect to actually boot and initialize. Yeah, well that two minutes of Yeah, connects, I could have just picked what I wanted, but

let's go. Yeah, the connect integration is really pervasive. You can you can navigate every screen with Connect and also pretty much anything that you see as like a title on on an interface page, you can say it see that's but it's still only the page that you're currently viewing. So if there's something somewhere else that has a voice command you have to pain you can do it video and then Xbox Netflix. Yeah, I actually wind up using for Netflix

the voice stuff. Uh, it works pretty well. I just stop when I remember that it's there, and you know, I use that more often. I always forget too. Also, they showed they showed the being stuff a little bit with the with the voice stuff. Yeah, it didn't work flawlessly, so you know, at least you know it was a live demo because some of it wouldn't come up, although they swore that it had been functional. So is that something before? That's when you're like Xbox bing,

and then you say what you want to start? You just say bing. I can't remember. But then some of those terms are interchangeable, I think. But it's not like you have to say like Xbox being searched blah. You know, like what what do you do? You say? It's it's sort of stuff. I think. The examples like you say Xbox bing Harry Potter, Yeah, yeah, and it shows you the video content for it, right, the Harry Poke. Everything related to Harry Potter that comes back,

whether it's games and movies or whatever. So there's a dictionary that if you're asking, if you're asking, what is a viable keyword, it's like right now, it's like broad content related terms. It's not like it doesn't have a fully robust like speech recognition in general. Okay, like you can't say anything you can think of. It's like they're somebody somebody is at Microsoft

like programming these things being hot teams. What here's Gears of War. But they did get it working to the point that they brought up all the I think the Batman stuff and then you can say like sort by games or whatever whatever you cut type of content you want to see, and then it'll filter out there. So you're searching like their media inventory. Yeah, you're not going to like the Internet at large, right or even just like kind of

searching for general Batman stuff. And they said it was intelligent enough that like, uh, I forget what example they gave, but if there's something that's on Netflix and on Zoom, you know, everything on Zoom you're paying for piece meal and it's kind of ex and so comparatively, but if it's also on Netflix, it'll say, hey, this is on Netflix and you already have Netflix. I mean, I can see the big watch it there. The big thing being really useful if they actually make it work like this,

we're finding some of the downloadable suffer indie stuff that's actually hard. But if its stuff you actually need to know by name, then it gets hard. It's not. It's a question of like what sort of metadata are they tagged, like each of these pieces of content with you know, how is that being archived, Xbox being massage games? And then yeah, see what comes up? Here's here's up. They're never going to do any of this stuff

for the indie games. That's that's the big problem, right, so hopefully the at least do it for I'll be shocked if any of this stuff includes any of those indie games. Any games channel seemed a little more prominent. Yeah, I wouldn't call it prominent. Sure it was a little more visible. You still you had to go to the games tab and then I think you had to go into the generalized like you know, search all games kind

of thing. You're pretty sure this is a hard coded dictionary for the for They said straight up, coming up with terms and then make sure the Xbox knows that what that term means. Right. Here's how to pronounce lead Me's what else is lead miss lead led me? I mean just everything about everything about this meeting and seeing this thing emphasize how much they are pushing non game applications on this thing, Like yeah, like there's there's a whole separate apps

channel now I think they're calling them apps if I remember. I mean it's where like you know, the Twitter and the Facebook and and all that stuff will go what are you ninety the Twitter? End of the Facebook? I use the bing to find the Facebook to look at the pictures of my granddaughter. Ye, when is this stuff rolling out? This year? They don't

didn't have a fall the marketplace. Here's here's the only reason that I don't believe that is because they had zero information about the cloud Save update, which is supposedly part of this. Yeah, I don't know, like to the point like talking Patrick, to the point of they had no information of how that would even work. Well, they could very well cut that feature before it comes out. I mean that would be a shame. I think this update will definitely come out in the fall, but yeah, this will be

out. Was that was? But it doesn't have to be. I don't know they've said it as they but you know whatever. I mean, a company like Microsoft to state information like that to the press, it must have gone through you know, X number of approvals and like they have to set that stuff in stone before they're going to tell us about it. Yeah,

a little weird that they're not showing it yet. It might just be a thing where you know, they're not sure how much space they're gon exact user or the specific thing he said we don't know about was how much space you're gonna like he cited He specifically cited Fallout three and BioShock Saves and like he was like, probably won't have all your BioShock and fall Out because BioShock one

saves and the Xbox or like eight megapiece. Yeah, Fallouts I think are like two or three megapiece and you can have like a hundred of those, right, you know. The p S three just gives you a raw one hundred and fifty uh cap. That's one hundred and fifty megabytes, right, that sounds right. I don't know, I do not know, So who knows if they'll can go for something like I subscribe to Plus. I still

I've never used the cloud stuff. I turned it on and I turned on all automatic updates and stuff like that, but I've never never see actually used it. Kick in it was the avatar chat in there, like we're like, no, that's a connect fun laps thing. Do you have to pay for it? Yeah? You know, I think maybe not that one. But maybe they didn't. They didn't show how you're gonna see like your friends river or whatever. You know, like a little fucking avatar parade. I

don't know how that's gonna work. But honestly, my most exciting thing about it to me was just how snappy it was with controller, Like it was just it moves like the just the cursor, highlights and stuff move lost that. Yeah, that's that's on a profile that hasn't played six hundred games. That has nothing to do with like the speed of navigating everything to do with

list That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about moving a highlight around a bunch of boxes on the screen, like you can flip between pages as fast as you can hit the buttons. You can't do that now, no, because they load in and everything. Yeah, well I'm talking about just like they animate, like they slide and stuff like this one. They just it's so really fast. What is the what's the new launched dashboards and they booted up didn't show anything, so I'm sure it's the same. That's what do

you think? Yeah, you don't change that with every update. Doesn't it still do that? Like didn't think a little guy, I don't know. Let me say that's VAM. What sound does it make? Same? Sounds of it are very very close to the same sounds because they did their last big sound update with all the that's the big ribbon thing that like, well that's like the boot up, but also like a lot of the you know, like dash like dashboard sounds changed with that update as well. I want

a better sound. I'm sick of it, sick of it already. You just want you know what, They'll just they'll rotate it back to the original sound set and that will all seem fucking brand. Just change the ribbon to purple to signify the connectness of it all. And I want Blades to go back to the bleads. There's a picture of the old Blades interface and the story of the Patrick put up and I looked at the remember that so so easy to load games? He's like quick, but it was so easy to

load, you know, the disc game, right. I don't think there were any ads really during the Bleeds. Oh yeah, definitely, it was. I mean they have since made Yeah, there were way more of them now, but they probably just had MPU sitting on the screen. It was it was it felt we I don't know, it felt weirder because it was just sort of it was shoehorned in there. Like in the current setup. It's like, no, we have specifically made a lot of space here for

fucking ads, which sucks. And you know, there's definitely way more about this thing. This thing is still rotten with ads. I'm not gonna lie ye, but I can't think of the single space that we were in that had nothing but ads, Like that spotlight channel on the current one, it's nothing but ads, and it's the first thing you see every time you turn a thing on. So at least it's not that. But the big, the big center unit. I mean basically the design is one giant center unit

that rotates and then like two columns on the side. I'm glad side columns are where the stuff you want. There's no specific connect man, that's yeah, it's the same. But the big fat box in the middle of every page just seems to be here's more stuff you could buy. Oh yeah, totally what it is that's the focus. But like I said, it's so much faster to zoom around that stuff. It's definitely one of the things I like about the XMB is like they do have that kind of default option that

brings you to that like what's new fake store page. But you can get away from that. You can turn that off. I mean, yeah, my ship is set up at this point where I barely see any of that on the on my PS three. Yeah you can. You can minimize it, say that you like, you know the Sheraton Gamer pictures. There's some Sheraton Gamer pictures set on just on the p S three. No, that's

on Xbox. Oh, I should go get this because I actually love fucking, really dumb sponsored I just I just reset my mind pretty good to some fucking onion blocks out back steakhouse appetizer. This sucks. I'll set it to this. I've decided my favorite store are the ones that aren't like a product or like something like we've cut some dudes face out of our ad campaign for

like it's fucking JK. Simmons because State Farm, I like it when it's just the logo, just the pure, unadulterated fucking like here's the State farm lood go, here's the logo for DeVry Universe. Over the weekend, I was looking at at what I had, and I was changing stuff, and you know, for a while there I was just downloading as many of the stupid ones, and there was just like a logo that says fucking hot pockets.

I don't said it was just the hot pockets great, and even barely even read it because it's because it's such a shitty, low quality image. Like whoever like that content, the company that sent that content, and no one at any point in that process cared enough. I see, I do still care. I still I like if I like that that McDonald's one where it's just the golden arches, it's McDonald's underneath. It's nice and clean that

edges. Yeah, it was a good image, good source image that they cropped down, scaled correctly, and a picture of a steak they got that now it's a free picture of a fucking steak. I remember wanting to use one of those, one of those Tron legacy ones they put out, but if you got up an eyeballd with those things. Yeah, like the Disney at like seventy seventies space that they have to work with. They crammed a copyright Disney in the bottom of that thing. It's like, no shit,

what the fuck are you doing? Idiots? Best gamer picture pack ever sponsored by a company with the Burger King ones. Yeah, those were those were really good. Yeah, the Burger King ones were good. You like to the Mission Impossible ones, just like here's a little ving rames for you. Yep, they should give you. Yeah, you know, the movie ones can be funny, you know, for as stupidest things are. We did

just spend like five minutes talking about that bullshit. Yeah we lose there really supers and they are really they are profoundly It's been more time than that, like hunting around like every three months, four months or something. I'll just get the bug and be like, I gotta change my gamer picture where it's the latest batch of really dumb free sponsor gamer picture packs they put in mind a fucking yeah, change mind mine now, just says TGS two thousand and

six. I think I think I still have my my TGS O six set as well. That's a good one good throwback I should do, like my my Xbox Live five Xbox Alive is five with the five spelled with five five five five IV. Yeah. So yeah, in some ways I hate the advertising on the dashboard and ways I hate the advertising on the dashboard in always, but the way that they do promotions on that console is so profoundly stupid

that it is occasionally funny. And I had to stop downloading themes. I used to like download all free themes and gamer pictures, but I had to had to reel it back. And especially God, I wish, I wish more than anything that they would upgrade the interface for through which you change your gamer pictures more than like a dozen game pictures through five minutes. I mean those every update they push those things further and further into the background to at

some point where it's like they're just not going to exist anymore. I don't even remember seeing a gamer picture right in this new dashboard, yeah, I mean you barely see them anywhere on the current white might be in there somewhere, I don't know, I don't know. It's still like the one consistent like you pull up that you know, the the in game dash stuff like

that's the only signifier there. Like when you go when you log into Xbox dot com, you're seeing those things as kind of your your pride dot com. Now you still see lots. My phone has avatars on it now, so way to go, got that one too, this phone. It's just it's weird to think that we're sitting here talking about the third significantly different version of the interface of this thing. Like the X and B has been what

it was basically since that console came out. That's not necessarily a bad thing, I mean because that in a lot of ways, I think X ANDB is still better than anything Microsoft has come up with. X ANDB can get to whatever you want real quick. It's real fast. Yet like some of what we're looking for where some of the organization is really cluttered, like under the system stuff, there's yeah, you know, I find it weird that they have broken out the Netflix app out of that of like video into like

this TV and streaming. I'm like, oh, really it was when it was over there next to like my Personal and just you know, lets you know that they're going to add more of that. It's like they the HBO is probably come in and they've already got baseball and football. That's right, that's true. There's hockey and there a hockey one. There's enough stuff to

put. I think the worst thing like the XMB is if you ever have to change system settings, that menu, the options they give you are just so crazy where it's just like display and it's like output, and like there's

like which one do you go in? Yeah, to change. Still, it makes a shitload more sense than any of the system like trying to trying to muck through system stuff, like the arcane magic of re downloading old content that you've already bought of like knowing how to get to the account settings screen

and on an Xbox it's it's it's crazy. Oh yeah. And then if it's something that's super old, you're like scrolling forever, like that Midway stuff that is no longer available in the store, like that's the only way to get it. Oh God, you know how hard it was to fund that Holiday twenty eighth theme after my USB thing died. God damn it. They don't even list that anymore. That's the best ever made. It's kind of bottom line though, is that you know, there's stuff that I'm looking for

on the Xbox. Yeah, sure, brand anything else you've playing Gun Stringer, Gunstringer can talk. It's a weird game. It's a weird game. Jeff. You were having some issues with some some functionalities. It's like my right hand doesn't work. Yeah, yeah, yes, we've discovered. Thanks for bringing it up. Also, I've just diagnosed you. Yeah. So I did not play much of it because I was running into responsiveness issues.

The left hand was pretty much fine. You know, you kind of move your guy with your left hand and then move the aiming radical with the right and you paint targets and then have to make like a gun pistol kickback motion with your right hand to fire coil, Yes, like a recoil like I shot this gun and now my wrist. But that wouldn't happen consistently. Uh So I was like jerking my hand back as far as it would go, and trying soft and trying hard and all these different ways and nothing with any

Yeah, nothing with any sort of consistency. I had to I had to start doing a broader emotion, not at the wrist, but at the elbow. Like yeah, that I was doing the wrist up. It doesn't work so well. But when I was doing like full ninety degrees with my elbow. Then it I tried that was I was doing that. So I tried

a number of different setups. I want to know what, like what your situation is like like in the in the room with furniture and you like, yeah, you room, your your bed is No, I'm not even playing in that room. I have to Connect on the living room. Okay, so you're sitting on the big couch there. I'm kind of standing to the side of the couch, which I can play Dance Central there, I can

play other connect games. They're just fine. Yeah, that's like even sitting on that on that couch there, playing on that TV in the living room like that's good. Seven eight feet there probably like that's that's good zone to be in, should be. But it just, yeah, just miserable. So I ended up playing basically like the first little bit Fight Wavy two Man. There's like five minutes in or something like that after the tutorial, and I was like, I this just doesn't work, Like I don't want to

do this. Some some high grade acting from the Twist Pixel crew in that in that opening sequence, they're they're little good fellas moments, the camera running around the theater and everything. That was pretty good, So I think my issues. So when I first I really wanted to see what all of like this, the sit down options were like, because there's that's pretty rare for Connect games. That's it's not like yo, stand the fuck up. In fact, it even says at one point like hey, getting tired. Yea.

So first I tried it, like with my big longs. The way my couch is set a b U shaped couch sitting at the end of it. Coffee table goes in pretty much lengthwise, so I have like, you know, six feet five and a half feet of coffee table going out in front of me and then empty space and then there's a TV. Uh. It was not loving not being able to see like basically my the lower half of my body from behind the the coffee table, even though you know it

was yeah it was, it was. It was not being terrific with that. Couldn't pick up your whole skeleton. So it was like, yeah, what are you I don't know, those are these things that are flaming about

your legs. If that's the case, you're playing Gunstringer incorrectly and also upside down, so drag the coffee table on the way, which is I didn't have to that for all Connect games, so it's not not a big deal really, But even then, I feel like because that's a like I'm basically at one end of that room and then the Connect is at the other and

that's pushing probably like twelve feet of space there. Yeah that's too far, so I'm I mean, yeah, so I so now I need to figure out like, okay, I need to have like a folding chair folding chair so I could sit half the distance up from there so I can get the right uh you know, uh kind of activity out of it. So I'm

still still tinkering at that stuff. But I got through several levels even with being at a distance, and not that that game gives you a lot of slop, like as far as the amount of the amount of hearts that it gives you, that in the amount of hits that you can take, although Brad, I don't know if you notice this, and a couple of the most of the levels have I think all the levels that I played have a sequence where you're two gunning it where it's no longer where motion is automatic and

you're just like using both hands as a as a pistol. Shooting is even automatic. You're literally just pointing and you're not even having to do like paint and then activate. It's just constantly dumping. Does that you pick up a taco and that happening just like Multipliers? Yeah, No, this is just uh And I love the narrator during this, the taco sequences. They give

it a lot of mileage, a f stuff. Yeah, although I feel like this is I don't know, I really enjoy the opening sequence, like the theater stuff, but this is may be the most like twisted pixel putting on a show vibe that I've gotten out of. I mean, the tone of the you know, the game is quite literally you put it on.

I mean, but I mean, I guess there's there's something. There's something way more amateur feeling about the FMV stuff that they included here, because it's not like, well we were on a green screen, we cut you out and then just kind of put you in a thing. Now it's like they're on sets, so it's like they're out in the world. It's twisted pixel guys delivering lines. It's like them doing comedy bits, just pure like in the world, no false elements, just walking down the hall and two guys

delivering lines to each other. Like it's yeah, I like that aspect of it. I think it's it's it's bold in a weird way because it really

is. Man. It like that. The FMV stuff has been their strength, I think in a lot of their previous games, and to like lean into it this hard is super risky, but it feels the most like because I've played a fair amount of you know, mid nineties FMV games, you know, Sega c D stuff and what have you, and this game feels definitely the most like It's like, you understand now why all those games were the way they were. It just the because everyone in them was a game

developer and not an actor. It's it's the yeah, it's the not filmmakers and not actors. But they can still get the gear and you know, integrated into their games so that you know, then they can be warm bodies in front of camera, right and so, and that is what they provide. It's warm bodies in front of the camera. The intro, in particular, the like video meta intro that leads directly into three D stuff happening.

It really reminded more more than anything of brutal legend lacking, which I thought the record story. So yeah, I say what you will about that game, but I thought that the way that intro flowed right into the game was amazing. It was very cool. That was very cool. This this works pretty well in that in that same vein, but not quite as well. But it's yeah again, because it's not Jack Black, it's Black as an actor. The thing he can sell it. Yeah, I don't know.

These guys did okay, but they're plucky. I don't know. I actually kind of prefer I think the way that they are doing that stuff, they're like if they went out, if the alternative was they went out and hired a bunch of actual actors to do this like relatively awkward stuff, but it wouldn't it wouldn't work at all. And we know you're right about that.

It totally wouldn't work at all because the whole appeal is that it is this kind of you know, handmade like well, yeah, like they will always tell you they are totally transparent about the fact that the first time they used FMV was because they ran out of money to do an actual ending for the game. So well, we can do this, we can cheap and fast, cheap and fast, and we just dumped this video file into the end of the game and tadah. So uh like that, that whole aesthetic pervades.

For sure. The best, the best use I've seen a video so far was I don't know if you guys have seen any of the side scrolling sequences. Yeah, there's one in particular where the shot is from kind of I don't know what the stage terminology is, but it's the background of the stage as if you were looking out at the audience stage left kind of three quarters to the side. So you see like dude is jumping and you're controlling it and stuff, but you see the theater audience, like the live theater

audience that shows up at the ends of the levels or whatever. They are

the background, and they're scrolling as the camera moves with them. You know, there are foreground elements and you're jumping over stuff and everything, and you just see them like like cheering and laughing and stuff in the background, and they and they fade in and out of kind of the like the theater kind of concepts as levels progress, and it will be kind of like weird little stage resets, and there will be moments where you're only seeing stuff in spotlights.

You'll just see the dude and you'll just see like whatever some specific object is. I think that's a really cool idea for a game. I think that the way that they have executed that stuff is really awesome. Yea.

The part where I can't play it is unfortunately, it's frustrating, And we were having this conversation in the car, like I feel like we're still kind of reviewing the hardware, like it's it's kind of parton, like you can't avoid it because it is like how they're using it is still seems to be it seems like everyone's still wrapping their fucking heads around, like how is the

best way to make this thing detect movement? What are the best you know, what are the kinds of movements that it is most suited to use? And how can we then turn that into gameplay. When they brought up on and we played on the green screen, was there, I mean was it fine? There? Uh yeah, so like that time, it was totally

smooth. When we've played it at E three, which grants that's really controlled, but you know, I played down and we played it like Microsoft at a preview event back one was still a downloadable game like the first time we played it, like you know, it was. It was rough in a couple of spots because it wasn't a finished game, but the responsiveness was like it felt it felt better than it did when I played the final Box game.

Yeah it worked, yeah and all that. So I don't know, Yeah, I guess that's the thing is is is there's no real clear path to here are the adjustments you need to make to get this to work better. Instead, it's just like, okay, it's your your right hand doesn't work, so no, you're you're you're right because it somewhere else. There are so many crazy variables that it's hard for I imagine on both ends.

Imagine it's hard for the developer to know like the number of different situations that this is going to be used in and like what things are going to impact it. It's hard for you to know the other end, like, well, am I just doing this motion wrong? Is the lighting bad? Yeah? Is this just how the game is? Like, like you know, there needs to be something that's just like you know, hey, this isn't working out. I'm losing your hand whatever, let's go into the tuner.

Let's figure this out. I'm not gonna let you play this until we figure we have a solution for this, because I feel like right now, the tuner does a very general broad like yeah, all right, I see your knees, understand here, standing here, thumbs up, You're ready to go, and then you get back in the game. But like the tuner, you know that was developed in design before I think a number of XDK updates that have come out that have changed, you know, overall functionality of that

of that hardware. So yeah, they should the tuner should have you do motions like a game with like now wave your right hand up and down. Okay, I see, I'm gonna lose you like right, let's you need to get more light in here, or like hey, buddy, move closer and let's try this again. Because otherwise it's just if they if they let you have bad experiences playing the connect, it's just going to lead to this

conversation of like the Connect sect. So it should even just bring you back and like, we're not gonna let you play this game until we figured it out, right, and then once you play the game, it's gonna be awesome. But when it works, it's it's simple and fun. I like the basic you know, I still I still find myself making like the marionette hand with my left hand and gun hand with my right hand, even though

you don't have to. Even though I don't have to, I guess I feel weird or just like doing like things or like fists or something like like, Okay, at least, you know, if I have a little context, this doesn't feel as stupid somehow. Yeah, I agree, just hold

a gun. Gun here you go. No, you are the controller at this case, where I probably could hold a gun would work, all other things being equal, like if connect works perfectly, yeah, gigantic if Yeah, there's definitely like pat your head, rubb your stomach, can thing to the gameplay. I only find that actually I have no problem with like movement with the left hand and you know, looking around and gunning with the right. It's only when I have to do the two guns for some reason,

two guns like I can't like. And that's and and that's where I take a bath. And that's when I realized, oh, like this is actually pretty forgiving and it's giving you plenty of health to work with here, because each like it'll be like these Galaghas style patterns. The number of like classic game references in that in the gun Stringer are crazy, Like there's the there's

an early Donkey Kong sequence. I think it's like first level, second level, but yeah, like these these bird sequences where all these crows are coming at you in Galagha style patterns, Like if you don't have one like locked in, it's like a specific position where you can just hold it. You were just getting hit over and over again by these birds and oh god, I've got my right hand where I need it to be, but not gonna move my left hand around and then I get off with my right hand and

I'm just getting murdered by crows. Yeah, tons of health. I want to take a break. You want to take a break. I kind of want you to, Brad, to get your thermon and humidity. I was thinking about going again. It is hot and wet and here and normally those things I'm all with, these clothes are going straight in the hay l. Alright, alright, this is the worst has ever been guys. I can't stop. I can't stop until you stop them planning all right, we'll be

back in a minute. More podcast. All right, guys, we're back reconstituted. We've turned on the A C. We've opened the door. It's late enough that we can Yeah, we can. We can do that. Although it's not like that door really holds any sound in or out, so I guess it's kind of a I can hear all the ghosts weird mood point. Yeah, is that what that sound was? Under? Tucker, So slap on that again. Back in that bad Dream, well, we talked

about some news. Capcom revealed alongside Monster Hunter game for three DS that they have this crazy bolton thing for the three DS that gives it a right analog stick, as well as I believe two more shoulder buttons. It wasn't clear if there was one more or two more I think is what it was.

I'm not sure. Yeah, it'd be weird either way. It's so that led to a lot of speculation about and as of this recording, we don't know I either way, but a lot of speculation about Nintendo before TGS, the Tokyo Game Show, which is happening this week in Tokyo, Japan.

By the time you hear this podcast, that stuff I believe they will have had their events, so well, I guess we should table this until next week because we don't really know the whole story, because like it kind of like this conversation hinges on whether or not the next Yeah, I full if date if they do a hardware revision to the three DS that adds that right stick on their full time Yeah, I hate everyone forever. Yeah, yeah, I'm on you already do agreed, forever agreed. But we don't know

if that's the case. We don't know if this is just a one off, weird thing for Capcom, which Nintendo has done in the past, like the Class Controller Pro was was sort of an example of which then went on to have an afterlife of like occasional supportive like yeah, every once in a while they kind of you know, a game decides that sure, why not, but you know, not never key, never critical to the experience, right, Yeah, so yeah, it's it's we don't we don't know at

this point what the deal is with the with this right stick thing. But it's none of this, None of this really bodes well as far as I'm concerned, Like, like this this all just if it's just a one off thing that they're making for this that other developers could choose to use, but probably never would because how many of those will really get out their worldwide That just seems fine, that's just then then okay, but if this is like

the future for the system and they are gonna try to split the user base base exactly, so if they if they choose, if they choose to further

hang all their early adopters out to dry again. But now like two waves of after yeah yeah, yeah, the second wave of people that bought it after this price cut, well really three waves, because you have people who genuinely bought it early CTF on this thing, now, real real early adopters, and then you have the people that were like, hey, the you know, price is gonna dropped in if I want to get on the Ambassador early adopters train, I gotta buy it because what a sweet train that is.

September one, well, a lot of places were dropping the price, right, yeah, So it was ended up getting both ways. Then it was a deal. And then those scambassadors who got the best of both worlds, and then the people and the people who took the price cut, like that's you know, three distinct groups of early adopters of you know, one form or another getting what if they bad? What if they send you out a coupon for the problem is that we it's yes, right analyic stick.

I don't know. Maybe that fixes something, Maybe that's what it was missing. I don't even know if the types of three I think we can say, goddamn games, give me a game, give me something I'm thinking about buying, Start start Fox over here, for christ sakes, that's not what's

holding developers back. They're like, oh, if only right stick, we can make some games for it. But if there's a bolt on third screen, now you're talking, we finally good on the three DS name it is three dual screens and all in all fairness, games games are coming, you know, yeah, Mario we are They calling it Annalynces for Mario three D. Land think is the final title. Even even even with the stuff they announced at E three and and that sort of stuff, it still doesn't feel

like enough to me. You're right, you're right, they need more third parties stuff. Yeah, but where where are the phoenix rights of this generation? I mean, granted, it took the DS a while to spin up and get it to where it's at but everything just feels so much more cutthroat now and with them cutting the price this early on, and now that this add on stuff is is truly a purveyor, Like, if this truly is going to be a full and hardware revision, then they're done man, like

that handhelds are done dead forever. So here here's where here, here's hold on it. Here's where I think that they're not going to announce that, because wouldn't you just hold Monster Hunter and then say okay, here's the hardware revision and announced you know, but this is the like the solution for people who have an old three DS. This is the Okay, you can either buy the new three DS, which has the again we're speculating, we don't

know. Either you buy the new three DS that has the rights to built into it, or you can wait for the hardware revision that comes with Monster Hunt, this thing that has the add on that you can plug your three DS into. But I guess, like, just like how you played Guitar Hero on the DS. But but my my issue, like the thing is like the difference is that that thing and usually any sort of like kind of weird let's saying exotic peripherals like this come much later in a system's life.

Typically you don't see crazy add ons like this. I guess you know Zapper and Rob the Robot being kind of releases. Yeah, there were two Rob games, and this is also a third party as far as we know, right, well, yeah it's it's it's for a third party game, right,

but you know from here. Yeah, anyways, I want to table this conversation until until next week, until we have I just like, there are a lot of different ways to take this information with what's out there so far, and none of them are Yeah, that's DS is awesome, Everything's fine. It's just different levels of how dire is this situation is crazy because

it's like a little cradle. Yeah, it's not even it looks like when it looks like those crappy like we're gonna put her joysticking buttons on your cell phone, just strapping into this stupid thing that you're never gonna have with you video games. So it makes the system like twice as big, twice as big as maybe a bit of a stretch. It looks about as big as the cradle that I currently put my three DS into the charge at home sow.

Oh they have to release new charging cradles too. This whole thing's doom. It doesn't it doesn't fit over the third party batteries that people. I hope you guys like playing video games on TVs because that's the only place you can play him now unless you've got a cell phone, because all this, all this stuff is dead. I downloaded Angry Birds on my touchpad. What why would you do that? What else is he gonna do with this touchpad? It's fair enough? How's the cost there? Oh that's right on androids?

Yeah, but it's not Andrew put it. Oh it's still I'll stake it's still free. You got a demo version, so it was it was it just I guess they do ad versions for free on the versions or whatever Nintendo. Maybe maybe they just cut the cord on the fucking webOS store and just said, like the Wild West you can. We ain't telling nobody.

Actually the actually sell other other stuff in there is the Kindle app back up or it wasn't this Okay, I got it that got pulled when all this happened, and I was like, well, if they're just gonna like pull apps out of it, it's back. But uh, I got I got a thing that's basically so idea for that thing. So I'm just downloading XML feeds of all kinds of homebrew ships. Cool, yeah, you know whatever.

I feel like my position on handheld gaming and it's future are we We've mined this pretty well, but damn son Yeah, I just wanted lot's just this. I bet that they are. I bet that every everything that happens like this, they are emboldened, even for come out and kick their ass. Yeah, they are putting on blinders to the fucking smartphone inevitability future.

That's that's encroaching on everything, and they're just looking at like the direct the directest closest competitor is the three DS that and we have been fighting Nintendo for years and and I'm pretty sure I saw someone from Sony referencing the Vita and using the term infrastructure mode. So if they're still using the ad hoc infrastructure

mode, I know. But in terms of like the way they're used in a gaming context and the way that like people think of like Wi Fi versus local and all that sort of like you just say, it's show us the internet, or you know, it's not the Internet. I think that those terms carry and probably within Sony And it doesn't sound weird just because of Japan, because of the right way that stuff gets played there. Yeah, because

ad Hawk is viable there because everyone's playing Monster Hunter. I guess so on their analo, I know it's the one they're single analystic now for long. We've got a meeting with Nintendo tomorrow morning. Uh, and they wouldn't tell us what it is. Big surprise. I don't know. I love but a racing wheel to the three, don't don't just just put it in the cradle. Snap too, and it's enough. On Pokemon Snap two, we've reality and reality. I'm on Snap. I would be interested in playing that

game. Snap a picture of Mew two like peeking around the corner of your desk. But that's basically what the Polka x three D does. Is that exact thing. But what if they were like in your house, if you had to chase you mean, no track all safari? Yeah yeah wow, yeah, less track more Safari to the to the limits, as far as you can go, so far as you can go. Yeah, damn it,

God, damn it. EA finally announced syndicates. Yea, we knew that that Starbreeze is making a syndicate game for EA since the late eighties, yeah, says before the first Syndy that came out. Yeah, yeah, all those other games, especially for this game. Remember it was the last game that Fred Savage played in The Wizard was the syndicate game. I don't know what to say about this. It looks it kind of looks a lot like D s X. There's some there's I mean, it's future cyberpunk,

cyber drugs, cyber drugs. They didn't really talk about the drugs any It's about chipping play, start hacking, hacking, and slowing down time. Yeah, because bullet time is real fresh. It's pretty dope. Slow stuff down. It's like you're still fast box treatment thing that they put out. That stuff looks cool to me, but I don't know, we'll see what that is. Yeah, it's crazy that that's coming out in early twenty twelve,

that they just announced it just announced September twenty eleven. That that that to me says that this game has been on the precipice of getting canceled for probably a year. Yeah, it probably even got canceled once or twice or rebooted

or whatever. I wouldn't be surprised. So yeah, anyway that happened, I'm not like outraged like some people seem to be that it's not a strategy game, because like looking like, dude, come up on eleven, y'all you go, and you go and look at at screenshots of even hurt so many times you should you should have seen this coming, Like what did you really think it was going to be when all these rumors were flying around,

Like do you think it was not going to be first person? The rumors had first person shooter attached to it, said Starburies, developer that has made only first person There's been so much turn over there that this is barely even them. But I even still just like culture of that developer, and yeah, like look at look at the riding on the wall. Come on, don't be I mean they were. Yeah, it's unfortunate that no one is going out and making the honest, true, spiritual real Equel to Syndicate just

like that hasn't been announced for Xcom or anything like that. Like, yeah, I would like to play more games like that, for sure, but that's not like, but that doesn't mean that I don't like action games. So and also I feel like that, you know, that's not if you're if you're going to reboot a franchise like that making your your strategy somehow,

retaining a perspective or mechanics or whatever. I just like the way that your dudes would skitter all crazy around and be running all fast and like that's French coats would flip up, and that's like, that's kind of down civilians for

no good reason. It's kind of a downloadable game, like at this day and age, like if you're not going like big budget first person shooter, like that's the justification to put you on a disk, right, you put that game out as a download, and you know it's either you know, are you gonna make this into a big franchise or a couple of down little games. So what you just said depresses me in a weird way. And I'm not thrilled about it. Man, I'm not trying to craft the future

here somehow, but like that's kind of the way. Let's talk about some new releases for this week. We've got games coming out. Yeah, White Knight Chronicles two for the PlayStation three. Thank you d three bringing that onto the States. Because Sony said, we're cool. HL twelve for Xbox three

sixty and PlayStation three. What was that? What was that weird thing with White Night two about having to have done something to be able to play it or something like that, you have to have done something in the first game or something that can't That can't be the case. I do remember hearing something.

Yeah, maybe they'll be. I don't know. Guns Stringer for Xbox three sixty and Connect Bit Trips Saga for the three DS, and Bit Trip Complete for the Nintendo we I guess those are slightly different packaging of the existing Bit Trip games that have been released on six There's all We Wear, yes, and two of them came out on Steam, but I can't remember which two Runner and Runner that's three D S game. I never played any of those. I think I'm gonna get three DS one because some of those are

first style, looks like it would play in three D. Really. Some of those are awesome, and some of those have some great sound to them. Yeah, yeah, some of those don't last. Some of those you like, you play it for one round until you die and go like, yeah, I gotta get it. It's a trifle. It can be But yeah, that's that's maybe a good three DS pick up the saga of Commander Video Must be told. I like the name, I like Commander Video Interview.

I like his giant tall head, but I feel like his best appearance wasn't super meat Boy. Yeah, that was pretty good. Nicktoons MLB. Finally the two licenses coming together that you've been waiting for. So I'm waiting at the three. We're waiting in the back of the two K area. They got like their weird fake bar set up back there, so me and Drew were just like sitting at a table waiting, uh, waiting the interview Ken waiting for death and uh on a TV. Back there, they just

have Nicktoons MLB running. I'm looking at this thing like I hadn't heard about it before. I'm looking at track trying to figure out what it is. I'm like, okay, wait a minute, those are base those are actual real baseball players. And then SpongeBob square Pants like this, and I didn't realize there was that crossover. This is like the last day of E three. It's kind of been a week. Yeah, I'm just looking at it like trying to figure out if it's really happening, Like, am I confusing

myself? Am I looking at the wrong? Is this actual gameplay? Is this a trailer? And then clearly this wouldn't be in the game. I looked it up later. I'm pretty sure that's what that is. That's real, that's real, and that's coming to the three sixty, the we and the DS what like not PS three not that I saw, all right, I looked around. I didn't see it there. That's just the one system with the crazy hardcore at LB stuff, right, that seems weird. Oh

maybe may cover all platforms that don't have MLB already covered. I don't know. Maybe, I mean two K whole is the MLB license, that's why they're That's why they're doing that. Yeah, but no, I get that anyway. Uh got a War Origins collection for the PlayStation three. That's those two PSP games that already at Dawn made and uh put a quick look at of those and that second one, uh not Chains of Olympus, but god here Ghost of Sparta, Ghost of Sparta. Uh shit looks good. They

did. Like it's not got a War three but not not too not too f and shabby, and it still plays pretty well, so if you if you're all I love God of War, but I don't have PSP check this out XBLA Radiant Silver Gun. Yeah, finally coming out. I don't know I've ever played Radiant Silver Gun. It's okay, wait, this is that the one that has a lot of like create It's it's you know, two D shooter side scrolling, but it's got a lot of crazy perspective changes top

down. Okay, I have fucking no idea what this is. Basically the original Ikaruga Ikaruga was, so they've added some kind of icaruga scoring mode to this version. Also goes a bonus. What do you think is gonna happen to the street value of Saturn import copies of this game? I bet they'll they'll take some kind of hit. But you know, I feel like that's an artificial price at this point, because I think anyone who really would want

Radiant Silver Gun and be willing to play those prices already has one. You know, They're not impossible to find, sure, and that's just for collectors, Like if you just want to play it, right, yeah, yeah, get your hands on it and some other fashion. I never thought that game was all that great. I told Milky here you say that I might have even told him that. And on PlayStation Network from Dust comes out this week, and Ferrari the Race Experience from You Drive Ferraris. I gather that's

just for nernces. Thank you guys. I think Penguins and Madagascar is coming out this week. Off. Yeah, there's totally a bunch of other ones that I am not right. Yeah, yeah, there's Emily Strange Strangers four three for the Nints. Is that Red Orchestra two two's coming out this week? There's that? Actually that actually merit's mentioning. I forgot that one. That one got past me, but I think that's because that's it's digital only release. So get get your steam on for I don't know, some sort

of World War two you shoot men as Drew about it? Brad, you want to you want to take us home here talking. We are going to talk about some emails. UH bomb cast at giant bomb dot com is the email address. First email comes in from Jordan in I don't know where Jordan's

from. Jordan, Uh, Jordan from Jordan. I noticed that you guys talk about the connect Way more than you talk about the move, not counting the sales numbers, would you consider the Connect more of a success than the Move by the sheer fact that people are still talking about it, even considering the lack of games and support by Microsoft. It did, I guess with faint praise considering most of the time the Connect comes up, it's in the context of, like, yeah, that fucking thing with the Move. At

least there's YO have Sebastian Jazz. It's weird. Arguably the move is hot. I've had more fun with the move. Yeah, like like I like lately like it's it's it's what's weird that I personally think the Move is a better product, and that somehow because of that, the Connect warrants more discussion, if that makes sense. Yeah, I think I haven't seen The thing

is that I haven't seen any application of the move. I feel like they've been applying the move controls to like their first person shooters and stuff like so common. It's it's kind of nice in a way that the games that you know that matter on that platform are supporting this peripheral but not in any way that I would want to play them. So it's more to the point when

we're talking about those games. We're just talking about those games. We're not talking about the move support in games that we play, like, we're not talking about the three those support in those games exactly. I mean, whereas were Connect games are Connect games and that's exclusively Yeah, so of course if we're gonna play those games, it's on the connect. For me, the move is kind of a known quantity, like I kind of know what it does and how it works. Yeah, it does, but it's not being

applied in any sort of interesting ways. No. Well no, but like I's still know when they apply it, it's like usually it works pretty well. It's like, hey, you're gonna be doing this with the move, and it's like, okay, I kind of just don't want to do that, but it's gonna work. I Mean, the problem is that I,

like I don't want a like dual analog stick replacement. And that's kind of what usually the move gets used for, is like in lieu of having a right analog stick, wave this thing around, like and if you want to strap it into a big plastic gun, we'll let you do that too, sure. And you know, there's plenty of Connect games that you know kind of try and get away with that as well, and that's no better there, but like you know that dead Space was an extraction that was pretty good.

It was you know, it was a like them game with the with the move controllers, but like with that was I mean it was an updated version of a week game. Yeah, but like it worked, it worked really well. And like when I feel like with the Connect, the reason that I talk about it is I have yet to see that thing like meet the expectations that Microsoft put out there for the Connect, and like every time we talk about like did it work, that's what I want to know.

Ye, Like basically I don't I don't ask if the connect or the move works because usually it does. It's like was the game any good? And it's like did it work? And it's like and the only time I've heard it be pretty good is Dance Central yep uh, and Child of Eden didn't seem to have problems, And then you could start talking about the game in

terms of like, well it's Dance Central good. Yeah. The other conversation, like the move conversation that yeah, you don't have a technical issue to get past, But then there's also nothing to talk about because there's not a so that's so critical. That's like we need to talk about this move experience

that we had. Yeah, I still feel like, you know, the the prime examples of like move only games and and and that's is like some of the downloadable stuff they put out around launching and horse Champions like those are still the Yeah, there's not a lot going on there. For better or worse. I don't know. I don't know. I asolutely for the worst because that thing, I mean, the precision on that thing is so high.

But I don't know so well, I don't know if they're I think they just put it out in the wake of people going like, I think we're done with this style of control scheme the weave. Hey cool, but because like and there's no more like easy secondhand third party ports, there is no more dead space extraction. You're definitely right, that's done. And also there to Ryan's point, they're not being overly ambitious with the move, But

then again, they're not failing to meet those expectations. It's not like they're like, hey, check out this game you can do with the move. You'll be able to, you know, twirl around and do all this stuff like I can't. It doesn't work like it's I can't do that with it, And I'm trying to think of like upcoming move games, and I think, like, great job, Jeremy is the only one, right, Like,

uhn't all for one? Isn't that a move game? No, there's definitely stuff at the there's maybe not maybe maybe optionally I played it without what you're talking about, just like pure move games. Yeah, I don't care. I think there was stuff at the press conference they were showing like NBA was had. Oh yeah, they did put move support and support and that, like there's games. I think there's support. But again it's it's I

don't it's games. You're already perfectly. I wouldn't I would have a controller. I would rather use my regular controller. Yeah, but and there's never i've you know, again, to back up Jeff's point, other than some launch downloadable stuff, there's never been a move game where I'm like, yeah, I would rather use the move controller than just my dual Shock. But

I've yet I'd have not I did. For the few move games I have played, I've been completely satisfied with the experience, and for the games I've played on Connect, I have been disappointed and like frustrated and like I feel like so in terms of my experience, would both, I would say I've enjoyed. I think the move is a more successful product. I've used the Connect more, like even even if not for games, just for interface stuff

on the dash, like some of the void activation stuff. I think all of your points are totally valid, and I'm still frustrated by the lack of you know, Microsoft has a similar issue as as Nintendo does. If they need to, you know, crank out some fucking games. They're getting better, They're putting out more games, They're still not great most of the time. Like at this point, when I boot up my three sixty, I almost wish I could tell it not to calibrate the video and the Connect because

I'm not going to use it. I just want the speed. I just want the microphone. I don't need the two minutes of it going bows at you like that a bows at me. It takes too long. But hello, sir, unplugged it. You plugged it back in for the ghost Ringer. But before that, I don't have it hooked up to my primary Xbox, so I only see it when I'm specifically going to play Connect games and

you're connect theater. Yes, both need work. Connect needs to be more consistent, like yeah, but if they both went away tomorrow, it wouldn't necessarily be the end of the world. I would like voice recognition and built into the next console. That's about as far as I'd go. I wouldn't mind if games got that right at some point where you could like talk to it. There are still moments with connect where when it does something, it's

fucking the future, and I've never had that experience with the move. Basically, just don't replace it my controller yet. If I can use my controller and talk to you, that's fine. That's an added So that's great. The minute you're like, hey, now wave your hand and that's gonna be

your controller, that's like, No, the controller was good. But if you want to like the mass effect, thing is going to be you saying the line of dialogue, and then it's saying the line of dialogue again after you select That doesn't I'm not saying that that is That is my yeah, dream, but I don't know whatever. If I could say it a lot of dialogue, I have to say it all high pitched because I play as a fem sheeps no, you won't because you'll say it, but then she

will immediately say it afterwards because it doesn't. It needs to replace that, like it needs to be all of a sudden like Shepherd no longer speaks. You have to read the lines, and if you don't read them aloud, eventually you get shot. If they're just like I would, I would, Yeah, I would totally read all of the lines of dialogues. Yeah, I would totally. It would be great if they were like if they was built in instead of like the Xbox being like, sorry, you didn't hear

you. If it was the character would just like what did you try to say? I just I just said Rex. That's something I would come over to your house and watch you play through Best Factory. It would be so much fun, just like get the US Star technology in there while you're at it, cut me out. But the thing is that they give you those paraphrases of like what they're actually supposed to say, but yes I'm saying is

change that? Yeah, that'd be funny, you know, a little bring a little play acting into it. Why not like get into the character something, get into the mass effect mood of things, and then if you break character, it just stops and goes like, come on, man, it's like every everyone else on the screen, just like it was like I'll be in my trailer right. The camera kind of jostles it. It's like boom dips into the shop. Amateurs here, we got a reset. All right,

everyone back in five minutes. Just dude takes his mask off. So we're hot in here, Spherd see how that comes off? Just rexus Now, yes, it's that guy having a cigarette with just like the little raccoon makeup mask. Are you ready? Are you gonna do this now? All right, I'll not in a second. Let me get the mask. That guy's Australian. Uh, next name? It comes in from Houston. I don't know where he's from, George. Is it the adult film actress?

Yes, fantastic, it's the Houston five hundred whatever it was? Yeah? Uh hey Jeff, yeah right, whatever it was. I just was looking this up on Wikipedia. It was over sick. It was somewhere over six hundred. Oh god, Jeff, I was wondering what your thoughts were on Star Wars. Is our Star Trek online going free to play? It's happened a couple of weeks ago. We didn't. We didn't talk about it then because there was other stuff happening. Yeah, like every other MMO in the

existence that is not doing Gangbusters. Yeah, sure enough. I want free to play. Yeah whatever, what do they give you anything? I think all that means I'll be a gold member for life, I guess because there there is still a paid tier where you pay the monthly fee. I don't know. That's the universe doing for you. I don't know. But the

great thing is you could jump in anytime exactly. Yeah, I don't know, like like yeah, on my form spring and stuff like, people keep asking about it like they're trying to burn me or something, but not Yeah, I don't know. I'd do it again, Jeff, Jeff spends money your responsibly. Yeah, this is not People who do know Jeff well enough to know that. Yeah, that's I know that. You think it's fucking crazy, and they would spend it was two hundred fifty bucks I don't even

remember. Yeah, uh, but he's spent more money more stupidly in the past. How that your your Japanese Future TV? Yeah that was pretty dumb also, and you got Ropa doped into that one too. You fucking got into a suicide pact with someone who backed out at the last second, and then the mirror was like, oh, I gotta buy a car, dude, Like I could have said that before we got into the store. Exactly,

you asshole. Oh fantastic Jason from Jersey. This past Sunday, I was an NYCDC a concert and while inline saw someone walk past wearing an Oscar Mike shirt. Given that it was the tenth anniversary of nine to eleven, shouting anything containing the word bomb would probably have gotten me detained for a few years, so I thought better of it. In those situations, what is the best way to identify yourself as a fellow fan? Just tackle them and

start punching. Everybody knows that you should see packs. Yeah, that's yeah, that's all that happens. Still got a weird bruise on my arm. It's you get for tackling everyone. Yeah. Some other internet forums have secret code phrases. Really, this guy, I'm aware of something awful code phrase I have never never used. This guy is suggesting a few What is such as secret? It's secret? I don't want even want to know it. Yeah, that's a question. I have something I don't want to. I

don't want to do too. I don't want to get roped into the weird cabal though. Yeah a good call. Now there's anything wrong with something awful, but I read it a lot wrong with something I've never posted. Yeah, same, same, same, I yeah, paid for a membership and everything. You know, five bucks, I have archive access. I think it's ten bucks. I forgot someone gifted one to me a while back. Yeah, Dick, I don't know. I don't have any good I don't

what does he suggest? He suggests emails I'm a wizard or get bent. I'm not sure that any of those really were. Yeah, I don't think. The hard thing is that our our community is weirdly splintered, like there's

definitely there are people that and I know this for a fact. We get a lot of folks who listen to this podcast who have never ever ever visited the website, so they don't know anything quick looks from the you know, the forum, just from you know, hamburgers and photoshop threads, you know, because the quick looks are a lot like this podcast, except we're playing a game while it happens, sometimes talking about the game. Yeah, no, if you are just listening to the podcast, come to the website.

It's it's really good. We do we put a lot of work into it. We don't. Someone does a lot of work gets put into it, right, Yeah, that's yeah. Uh so that should that should pay off for someone, I guess at some point. So I'm not sure that there's anyone thing that crosses over everywhere that that really works that way. Does No? I don't know, all right. The phrase is, hey man, you like the internet? What hell? Yeah? I like the Internet? And then you hug Yeah, I think a good a good hey man,

you like the internet? Good? Not something like man hug you know, a full two handed, you know, head on shoulder the left, like you know, if you tilt to the right. It's like you want to get some kissing on, which is fine too, just you know, a caress. All right, what were we talking about? Kissing? Okay, yeah, I'm all for it, gentle caress. Let's do it. I mean not, I didn't mean it like that too bad. Jack Chay from Brooklyn, New York says, hey, guys, I love the site.

In the bodcast, keep up the good work. Jack is both and he likes both, and he likes both too. There it is, there's a testimonial. That's right. But bam. Question about driver San Francisco. How often do you feel like you've seen the same traffic pattern when you shift? Does it feel pretty randomized or do you start to see some sort of grouping of cars. I didn't see anything like that. It's kind of just random all the time. I mean, there's not as many cars as it would

be in actual San Francisco. There's no real gridlocked traffic or anything like that. But then you could say that about any video game ever with cars. Yeah, there's only so much. Yeah, there's definitely. I mean, you know, they definitely see the traffic certain way when missions require it. Like if you're in a mission where all of a sudden you need a taxi, you will find a taxi. If you need big vehicles like you do at the end of the game, they quick big vehicles there. Just make

sure that you have what you need. Yeah, let gonna call it. That's it for emails, thinks everyone who rode in podcast jampon dot com. Guys, let's get out of here. Sand was damn podcast. Let's talk real briefly about T and T. Okay, Yeah, I got a question from someone. Okay, sure, so we're gonna we're changing it up some post big live live show where we have several ideas for how Thursday Night Throwdowns

will will operate in the future. Basically getting away from always being married to us playing a multiplayer game with people in the community in some sort of competitive fashion for two hours. All of these day things are going to change. Every everything you just said, literally, everything that I just said is going to change in some way or another, which does not mean we will not play multiplayer games with the community. But also, you know, we want

to broaden the kinds of games that we can play. We want to do stuff that's uh uh cooperative in nature, and stuff that's older, stuff that can't necessarily be done online. A larger showcase of games, yes, in multiplayer formats online or off, you know, just just kind of broaden our horizons a little bit. We think it will make for a more interesting show

going forward. Always competitive multiplayers, sometimes cooperative, which which can be tricky sometimes, you know, if we're doing it online, because it's it can be hard to get you know a lot of people through there in two hours or whatever. So So this week we're doing kind of a you know, a grand break from the format of old and we're gonna be playing some Dead

Island four player co op with all four players here in the office. Yeah, and like scrub League would fit into this, yeah slot, Yeah, I think I think you're gonna see scrub legg happen more often, you know, older you know competitive games that you know, maybe some split screen stuff that you know is an honest system that has a damn Internet connection on it,

things like that. But yeah, this week Dead Island is what's being played, and it's it's being played all locally, So we'll still have community interaction in other ways, but just not in the playing with you guys. Yeah, we'll still run chat and take questions and all that stuff. But but again we will also in the future. Do you know classics TNT that format is not going away entirely. We just want some damn variety on that note. So yeah, Thay, Thursday, four pm Pacific time, Dead

Island, come watch it. It'll be fun, I promise. And with that, bomb Cast is done. Thank you, guys, thank you, and thank you guys for listening. Uh and uh come back next Tuesday for another edition of the Giant bodcast