Giant Bombcast 05/19/2015 (Premium)

Mmm. Hello, It's Tuesday, May the nineteen, twenty fifteen, and you are listening to the Giant Bomb Cast. Guys, Jeff's gone Yea, No he ain't. I'm right here, right here, hellosen, it's a two teacher. Hello, Jeff gherst Man. Hi, Hi, Why why do you hate the Winter so much? Because I've only played a couple of hours of it? Sir, you're all fired. I'm getting a bunch of new people in here. We're gonna we're gonna fix this place up once and

for all. None of you slackers. This Game Informer takeover thing was a bad idea. Okay, that's something he says. You know what that is my eyes that I just see, Jeff, Yeah, that is that is very true to life. What's going on? Not much. Jeff's out doing stuff, secret pre e three stuff. So what are we gonna do with this newfound freedom? Talking about the witch stuff? Wait, no, dude, when the boss is gone, you don't do the thing you do when

the boss is here. We were talking about credit scores before we were right. Yeah, so that's that's what that's cool. Rebel kids talks about when the bossesn't turn this into a financial podcast, Dan, I had never heard of the word finance. It's actually not true. I might have been kidding when I said that. Sorry. Then we moved on to homeowners associations and yeah, really a hum dinger, all that hot stuff. It seems like dicks. Uh huh. Really they seem like status obsessed dis Yeah. Yeah,

you're not allowed to have RV's in front of your eyes. Your grass has to be exactly one and half, no more than three quarters of an inch. Yeah, your beard has to be short. You'd never be allowed to live anywhere. Wow, my goodness, it's kind of tramp No. No barfing in your front yard. No o in the backyard, my backyard. Okay, we were courteous. That was a trick question anyway, because there on the front yards out here. I've actually fuked in my front yard

a bunch too. That sounds like something you would do, Dan Riker. It's marking his territory. Yeah yeah, Jason a strikers here. They all say it's scooters at the homeowners association. What the hell? What? Yeah, scooters. I had a little cheap scooter and they're like, that's a motorcycle. You can't have that. No way, that's like, okay, chopper's fair enough, but like a little fifty cc thingy or a what about an electronic boing? What about wanted? It was like a bicycle with a

motor, that would probably be fine. Like, I mean he shouldn't be allowed to have one of those anyway, because fuck man who who was so expensive too? Yeah? Yeah, that's why, Jason. Last time I was at your house, you tried to sell me a scooter you bought when you were drunk for like twenty dollars. I was super drunk, and yeah, if you bought it at twenty dollars, I would have made well, not made money, I would have made all my money back like a little

like a little foot scooter. Yeah. I was back from your neighbor, I did. I was looking for like alternate means of transportation to the barts while you were drunk. Yeah, and you're trying to hawk it all right. I don't even know how we got on the on the topic. Really, he was talking about like moving into the city. He was like, Oh, here's my drunk neighbor. I know, I bet I can sell

him my push scooter. We got on the topic. I'm like, you know, the one thing I would never get is one of those stupid little push scooters. And he's like, oh, yeah, I've got one of those I share. I'm like, how much you want for it? Wow? Do you just throw your phone away when insurance companies call it off? That's probably it works. It's a good thing to do with stuff you don't want. Go far away from it as you possibly can. So I've never

taken it out on the street yet, nor even the sidewalk. But I went out and I bought a bike, like a cheap one hundred dollars bikel Yeah, bikes are great, man. Like those first two weeks, my god, my legs were burning. But yeah, I'm gotten gotten into scooters like your gateway drug to owning a bicycle. What's next? Start with roller blades? Bust out the funny back kids? The kids do roller blades anymore? Golden Gate Park. I don't know ten kids, Okay, yeah,

I guess I don't neither. That's sell some really cool ones to target though. But they were really cool kids, yeah, really cool kids wearing these cool like tricycles skates. They're three wheels, so one of the back and then are the back and one of the fronts, so like your balance to be better there. I see these guys in my neighborhood, and I've seen a couple of downtown as well. They it's like a little ball that you stand on and it just like it looks like a little robot thing you stand

on. It's around town. I can get those on Amazon. I don't know how that works, Like, what, what's what are the breaks on that? Like this guy was going down a steep hill in my neighborhood on this crazy ball that he was standing away? Is there like a platform around the ball for your feet. It looks like a dude just standing on a ball. And I don't know if it just drives him around town or like how you propel it or how you stop? It looks pretty cool. I

was watching I was in bed, fucking Future's weird, man. I was in bed on periscope watching a guy in Sweden going around on one of these fucking things. Nice the futures here, man, I know, futures now. It's awful futures the present burn it all down, and then the president Danny Adwiers, Hey, what's up? Sorry? I wasn't Jeff, I know, I was a really good impression. But no, I'm not. I'm not away doing secret E three things. I'm here here because you want

to hear about the Witcher. Apparently, I get. Yeah, man, it's good right into it. Don't spoil anything. You want to talk with the Witches straight away, Let's just talk about that. You gonna do that whole thing where you go ahead and say, hey, what are you playing Dime? Are you playing Jayson? So it's a formal around here. I know. I was looking forward to talking about Tokyo Jungle for about two hours before I got into the Witcher. But we could bear enough. We could

do that too. Yeah, but uh, you know, the Witcher is the big order of the day. It's at today, It's the thing this week, I guess, unless you're into the Destiny. I don't hope, no, no, no, please don't tell me. What's it called? House of Shit? Yeah, that's it. I fired up Destiny for about five minutes over the weekend. I'm saying I should get back into this. I haven't played this in months, and I didn't launch into a mission and then I was like maybe not damn good work, and then I turned it

off. So I'm still going to check that thing out. I still want to know about it. But maybe it's hold has been broken, maybe or maybe maybe why are you diving back in? Oh my god, Brad, We're gonna lose you again. I have to know. Somebody around here needs to know what the story. What do you need to know everything? Okay, all of you love? Do you have people you play with? Yeah?

I know people who play. Yeah, so if they get back in, we'll not like encourage you to get back in because it seems like one of those games Misrael Love's Company, right, Yeah, I guess so and boring game Blay that that thing seemed seems like it might have some good ideas. Maybe hopefully we will see. Nobody has played it as of this recording, although by the time this is out it will be out. Three of

us was said up not have played. It's probably true, you know, but by the time this goes up, I would have played it either, because somebody's got to put this podcast together. I will by the time you hear this, I will be checking it out. Cool, I will see what it's about. But I look forward to hearing it on next week's Vonka Yea. But forget all that which are three. I'm talking about the cher which are three is a pretty great video game. Yeah, and we gave

it a ten at a ten over on GameSpot dot com. I was surprised that much higher than that. That wasn't the ninth ever something like that, Like I ever ten a T two is the last one? Yeah, and then that's fine, okay, Kevin Kevin van Ord is not a man who gives out tens freely. Nope. I was actually genuinely shocked to see that he gave that score. I was kind of hoping, or not hoping, fron I was optimistic that it might be a great game after we went to

Warsaw and played it that CD patch. Look at that you're just slipping that full disclosure in there that even yeah, just slip it. Yeah yeah, I was really until you called that act there was real subtle. Yeah. Well hey man, look when we gave it ten out of ten, I've never been so happy that we paid for that entire trick, everything that launches the Holster Bank anyways, on the that was all preview preview nonsense over and game spot. They just ago, but yeah, it's it's really something else.

When he came in and was sort of musing over the one thing that he's thought about not giving it a ten for was the technical difficulties. And we've got it like a PS four debug. It was the same one that Jeff was playing that had like the day one patch on US. Yeah,

a Day one patch on us. Yes. Yeah. So I've been playing the Xbox one version, which I'm not sure if it does have a Day one patch either, and there has been some technical stuff so like right at the gate, like there is some like frame rate hitching on you know, cut scenes and in engine cut scenes. I'm pre random ones, which is quite bizarre. And the game itself, open world, looks fine and runs

fine, but I've had some like quice s break. I had one or two loading screens, like just straight up loading, loading, loading, nothing ever happens. But that's in like fifteen hours of games. So it's it's I've been playing the final version on PS four and a lot of the same stuff actually, Like the FMV hitching thing was super weird, Yeah, because you don't expect like an FMV or like why is it? Yeah, why's

outing like no loading screens throughout the entire development. So that's where they're doing. They're loading is during those fmbs. That's not accurate. That's not definitely loading screens. I agreed, but I had read that, Yeah, they were shooting forward loading screens. You're loading screens between. That's traveling, yep, which it turns out is something you probably could have been doing a lot

of you. You'll hit a you'll hit a load once in a while when you go into some kind of specific cut scene or like a scripted questioning or whatever. They are not a big deal. Yeah, they remind me of kind of Skyrim level ones, which are a little bit on the longside. But you're kind of fine, you know, it's fine that there's so few and far between that it's it's hard to get angry about them. That seems like a hell of a world that they've made, though, Oh man,

I've just now getting out of the first area. I haven't even seen like the openness of the second part yet. But it's intimidating it is. It is sprawling. So when I was I was playing some over the weekend and decided to just like, straight up, I'm not going to do any main story stuff. I'm just gonna have a look at like one little peninsula and

see what I could find there. And this was like a pretty innocuous part of the map, relatively small, probably about the same size as the prologue Are you started, And I had like two question marks in there, and like a like a signpost that said Harpy Nest or something, and I was like, all right, let's give it a go. And like it looked like nowhere else in the world because it was like off the beaten track, and you could tell why no one had settled there because it was all craggy

hills and like kind of nasty little swampy parts. And on the way there, I just like wandered into some like dead lady who had like a note on her which may or may not be a quest And there was like a harpy nest that I went in, and like it was the first time I had met them, and I used like different tactics to try and take them down, like using the ards spells and lock himatit the air and then sometimes catching and went an upward swipe like the hard hit to lock himaded the air.

And then they know, and there was a bunch of like like a chest with a bunch of crap in it, and like it's just that like the loop of you keep running into just random crap that you never thought of, and you're like getting distracted and getting dragged into another part of the map. Like that stuff keeps happening, and the quest stuff is where it really gets it starts to freak me out. So I went to a notice board

in that area which had you know those boards in the town. They're like, here's a bunch of quests, good job board, Yeah, yeah, exactly, And some of them are just like flavor text, Like one of them straight up said don't eat cats. Cats. If you eat cats, it'll give you bad luck. But does will sometimes like open up like undiscovered locations on the map where yeah, sometimes it will still like you end up being quest, which is yes. But I got one which didn't but was

a quest. And that's what freaked me out is that some of them are straight up like you pick it up and it goes second request unlocked, right, take your quest log, yeah, or like some of them make like these little question marks pop up on your map. I picked up one of them which said which was basically this guy saying, oh my wife went missing. I don't know where she is. She was in the woods x y Z, and I always looked at it and I went, this kind of

looks like a quest, but it doesn't say that. It doesn't have that like mark, right, So I picked it up. Nothing happens, and then I kind of thought this game is weird like this. You can never really tell what's what's black and white. It's all gray in terms of the quest stuff. So I wanted into the forest to see if there was anything

there and I kind of parted around. I didn't see where she was, and I didn't think get anything off, and I got I thought, you know what, that was a bit too much to ask this open world game, so I went away. It be an hour later I'm flicking through my quest log and in like second requests, it has Garralt's wanders to the town and rips off this thing off the noticeboard. I wonder if you'll find something in that farest. So it was a quest, but it never highlighted it.

It never popped up it like when I was in the forest. He didn't react to it, And that sort of stuff is what's crazy about this Because I've had like second request impact on the main quest in weird ways. I've had like like conversations with people in bars that were just innocuous people that then suddenly came up three hours later in the story mode, where like people who were guarding this thing and they're like they remember that time you bought them

a pint. Like It's just that sort of stuff keeps happening, and I think that's the most exciting thing about it so far. Is it the noticeboard? What is causing the little question marks to pop up on the map? I want to say, yeah, because I went to a new area and did not see any of those question marks as soon as they hit the noticeboard.

Yeah, I'm finding those to be kind of like a double edged sword because I'm not necessarily like I feel like i should be doing more of what you're describing, which is just like picking a direction and going until I find some stuff like instead, because they populate the map with all those points of interest, I just set way points on those. I'm just kind of run

straight to them. I find myself just basically kind of going back to the map and setting way points over and over and just going to what they're already pointing me out. Because I've gotten a lot of great reward from doing that. Yeah, but yeah, I mean they highlight the main quest pretty well, something like if you wanted to just stick to the oh sure, yeah

good. What I mean is I'm not necessarily getting as much of that sense of discovery because I feel like it's all bet it's kind of being annotated for me on the map and then I'm just going from point to point. I have had like instances where it wasn't a point of interest, there wasn't that question mark. Well there's still stuff. There's an old lady like looking into a house. I'm like, what's up, old lady? And ships like

my pants in there, and I'm like that lady was crazy. And then yeah, you come to find out that that like opens up this whole new quest line and it's like, wow, this is this is deep man. Yea. Some of them are just like one off things, and some of them are like five six like quest lines deep. They just keep going and you can never really tell, and like picking those is going to be real difficult because you level up, you don't level up like randomly from like Monster

and Counters. You can't just like grind or whatever. So do you get no XP whatsoever killing Are you sure? It's very sure. I've got a bonus right now that gives me XP two like Monster. I'd swear if I've checked my XP multiple times after battle and it hadn't moved, I might be wrong, but I guess I might be. I mean, don't it's not that much, if it's anything, I guess I should say. They trickle out the XP pretty slowly, because like some minor quest steps give you like

ten XP yeah, and I'm like nothing. Yeah, one quest that required me to be not required but recommended that I was level three and I'm like, God, this is gonna take forever. And then finally I did like some other random one and it gave me like three hundred experience and I'm like yeah, yeah. The story stuff seems to be the thing that levels you

the fastest, big time, by far. And the weird thing about that is that you can actually out level some of the side like secondary quests pretty easily if you don't keep an eye on them, which might be disappointing. So like, I have a bunch of like treasure quests and the monster quests.

The monster ques seemed to be pretty high, but like a couple of secondary ones that are like level three and now I'm like going up level six and seven, and it's just, you know, you're kind of like, oh, I guess I kind of missed out on those, and you can go back, but it's not the same. So what's your what's your prior experience with the Witcher. I know that Jason, you've play games the first

first games of the novel, read the books well so so. But before we went to Poland, I basically had like zero, Like my experience was watching Vinny Okay in video form. That's a lot of our experience with the Witch State. I never touched the first one, and since we went to Poland, I went back. I played a tiny bit of Assassin Kings and I went back and played a couple of hours of that, like maybe four or five hours of that, and I read the first book before we went

out to Poland. Two interview Hi Sho. So I wanted to have like some sort of deeper knowledge of the lower but no in terms of gameplayer like I was, I was the quintessential fresh off the boat man. This new Witcher game looks interesting, I wondered, do I need to know about the other two to enjoy us. Let's jump on the bandwagon of the big game. Everybody's talking. Yeah, kind of like they straight up started calling it Witcher Wild Hunt, Like they removed the three from the from the used to

have like a big three. Besides, like that scratch in the middle the wild Hunted. Loo. I noticed that in the logo treatment on the title screen. Yeah, it's not it's not blatantly apparent that that is a three. You know, it looks kind of superstylized. Yeah, and they call

it Witcher Wild Hunt and like a bunch of their trailers and stuff. So they have very much been like both in terms of the story the disc sort of goes into and in terms of the treatment gameplay wise, they are making this game as much for fans of the old stuff as they are for people

who are completely fresh to the series. Yeah, I mean this is definitely is you know, based on the marketing, the way it looks like, the way it kind of, I don't want to say emulates aspects of like Skyrim and stuff like that, but it does drawsome inspiration there, Like all those things taken together, like this is definitely the one that could break big for them. It seems like you know, like it's coming out against nothing,

like there's no other major releases the smart time. So Danny said, you, I mean you at least like you know, read the book and seven did some research there, Like I have not really played the previous two games, but I'm definitely I'll be downloading it when I get home tonight. But yeah, for me, that doesn't know anything about the lower or anything, like, there's not a lot of stuff I need to know from one

and two, like gameplay wise or lower wise. No, in terms of gameplay stuff like, it just depends how much you enjoy that breed of like action like swords play. Yeah, I love it like I love Skyrim. I just didn't like the structure of the open world. I don't know what to expect. Is it kind of like a Red Dead thing, it's kind of like a Skyrim. I'd kind of say, it's somewhere between the two of those. Yeah, that's probably well, So if I love the ship

out of both of those, this might be a good game. So why I went back and played some Red Dead over the weekend because I came back and said, like, my sort of what I've the easiest comparison I had was like this is like a fantasy Red Dead Redemption kind of thing. Okay,

In terms of like actual questing, it's very much like Oblivion. Like Red Dead was relatively linear and narratively, like there was some stuff off the beaten path, but it feels like the main quest stuff is incredible in this, like the way in which the second request split off and they stop but you can keep doing them that and it impacts in the main quest. That's

amazing. But then there's so like easily that much content again in terms of the side quest stuff, which isn't the case we're Red Dead, so it's kind of like it's like right Dead in terms of you just exploring the landscape, Like it's very much a game about the protagonist and his relationship with the world, like discovering the world and meeting its people and finding stories. So

that's kind of what it's like. But in terms of like the questing and it's it's more like Oblivion in that you will a couple of areas and you're going to have a couple of different like, oh man, where do I focus my attention? You know, is it on this weird quest line or is it like the guilds and Skyram or something. It's like, oh,

do I want to focus on the Thieves guild here? Do the Dark Brotherhood kind of in terms of like the length of the quest, but not in terms of it's it's a lot less regimented, I feel than something like Skyram. It's a lot more kind of like dynamic or like natural than than that. You don't just have like, you know, pillars that you're kind of attacking at any one time. I found they they you know, I'm just

not getting out of the first area. But they tend to weave the like the witcher stuff, like the business of being a Witcher into the main storyline

like in and out pretty well. Yeah, like you end up taking contracts because you know Whitcher's there's like part of the Witcher code is like you have to get paid for your work, you know, like you don't you don't go around like you're not a You're not just like a feel good kind of do good or are they like like they're they're like kind of I want to say, a interesting kind of a moral mercenary types, Like are they supposed

to be killing like assassinating witches? Is that what which there's a. There's a great line in one of the quests where one of the guys is, oh, I thought you were a witch on her, and he's like, no, no, no, I'm a witcher anyway, Oh they're not the same thing. That's pretty good. I so I uh stand to answer your question. I went to U Kataku, who put up like a really good concise primer for like kind of you know, what are what are the power

structures of this world? Like what do witchers do and how do they fit into it? Like what what are the events of the first two games? Although those apparently don't matter a ton here, so those are pretty condensed, you know, it's just like here's a couple of paragraphs per game of what happened, But it's more like who are the characters, one of their relationships? Who are the kingdoms? And know how are they warring with each other? Right now? And quickly? No, no, no, actually no,

this all sounds great. I I would recommend reading over that one or something similar that. I'm sure there are others out there, because like I would have had no problem understanding what was going on, but I don't know that any of it would have meant anything, or like that I would have cared about any of it. I like the idea of this a quick overview of just this whole universe before I dive in there. And they do they

do a really good job in the game, but you're doing that. Actually they allude back to, you know, previous events and characters and just give you just enough filler information to to let you in on what's going on.

Is it lower heavy, like long cut scenes and stuff and dialogue there's a lot of yeah, long dialogue secrets, okay, But I would I would liken it more to like a good buyerware game, like like a Mass Effect or a dragon Age, where it's not like like infodonts about lore or not the draw here, it's more like the interactions between the characters that are happening right there. You know. It's like it's the drama between people and how

they're kind of struggling with each other. That's that's the main of it. But if you want to dig deep into the lore, that's def certainly there for you. Well you don't. But what I like about where the story picks off here is that at the end of the Witch or two, it kind of it's kind of like that story's done in a way, like the story of Siri and and Jennifer and and and Garrett and all that is like that's ongoing, but it's not like they're taking out of baggage from two and

putting it into three. Not much like so that's it's kind of a nice cut off point. Chris is still pretty pistic. I actually want to ask Jason what's in relation to like the Witch or two and stuff. I feel like the acting and the voice acting and the writing and this is like so much better compared. I wouldn't go quite that far. I mean, obviously it's the same voice actor for for Garrelton and stuff, but there's not a ton of returning characters, so I don't have a lot to kind of,

you know, prop that up against. I haven't heard enough to be certain, but from what I've heard thus far, it's been pretty damn good. I love that. I'm not too big on like big exposition and whatnot, but the dialogue scenes in this, even just between random characters you meet, are just so it's so much it's really good. Like the writing is what turned my opinion on this game, because I actively was not having a good time for the first like two three really like I didn't like the game for

about two hours. I actually was the same way I didn't like the so so the stuff you have complained about with controls is like that's legit worse than you think, Like there is a weird I don't know what was going on with their like the design behind the movement of the character, because like when you push in a direction to move, it's like he thinks about moving for about a full second before he really starts. You don't momentum thing and like

like utterly like fluidly animated. I guess other game a little like Uncharted other other games due to this to an extent, but this is a really extreme case and it's and it's like it's like he takes about a second to get moving, but once he does, he like goes from zero to full full full run in like no time. It's a really weird thing. And the horse is kind of the same way, Like I find the horse getting stuck

on geometry a fair amount, with like fences and stuff like that. It's easy to just call it bad, but yeah, did you find yourself getting used to it? That's the thing, Like like not that you should have to get used to it, but I did, Like at a certain point, I was getting so engrossed in the in the other good aspects of the game that I just realized I was like, oh, I'm not really noticing that anymore. Like I wish it were better, but it's not. It

just makes a bad first impression, is what it is. Like you get over it, but at first, like combine the movement stuff with like the jank. You know, there's a fair fair amount of open world jake here. I feel like some of the areas in which the movement is poor in in terms of like climbing and like indoor areas, that's pretty like there's a lot of that. Early in the game, the very first ladder in the

game, in the beginning of the tutorial broke for me. I couldn't climb it, Like I kept hitting X and he went into the climb onto the ladder animation, and as soon as that was over he fell off. I went over and over and over. I had to restart it and it fixed it. But like that was just a you know, that was a good early warning sign of like engine, isn't it like this? I don't know, Yeah, Red engine doesn't be that they made just for this open Yeah.

Okay, so I probably for cyberbunk. Jason, You're on Xbox and you two are on PlayStation four, right, I have predominantly Xbox one on thing oh xx one. Okay, I'm really curious cause I'll be playing on PC, so I'm real curious. Like shots of the PC version maxed out floating around that looked freaking incredible. But at the same time, like people are saying that even like a tighten X can't run it at ultra settings. It's like second, so you know, it should be a pretty good looker

out there. But I mean all the recommended spects will keep my fingers crossed. If it's any indication of like how I'm enjoying the jank of the Xbox One version, well, I actually I bought the PC version last night. Oh wow. Yeah. But yeah, it's like, you know, move on kind of starting out like like movement issues, uh, like some kind of you know, buggy stuff here and there, Like I don't think the combat is amazing, you don't know, so all these things, you know,

taking a different kind of feel. It's it's like, you know, maybe I'm doing the game of disservice by going straight from blood Borne to this. In terms of third person Maine combat, it's like, let's go from some of the best of that in the world to this, which is not amazing, Like it's okay, it's just it's got kind of a herky jerky,

like stilted sort of feel to it. You know, Like I feel like the timing of the moves coming out is is feels a little unnatural, Like connecting with enemies doesn't feel great, Like it's just kind of it's kind of all over the place for me. What I really like about the combat though, is how tactical it is. But yeah, actually, you know you need to go into like your notes to find out what what types of

things that enemy he's are susceptible too. That that was you probably I won't say side quest, but you probably know what it is where there's like kind of a it's one of the first contracts you take sure where I was fighting the enemy and the enemy is kind of an ethereal thing and I was doing no damage to it whatsoever, And I was like, do I just have to use my fire spell on it? Over and over? Like this sucks?

I just kill like I'm dying over and over and ending, like a really light handed way of introducing you to the style of right combat anyway, right, and so yeah, like I looked in the Best Sherry and I was like, oh wait, it says it's vulnerable to this spell. And so I used that spell and I beat it in thirty seconds. You know. Oh wow, Like that's a that's kind of a level of detail that

a lot of games like that don't demand of you. You know, like you could just hack and slash your way through that in a lot of games. Yeah, and that's what I appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah, So switching between spells and the fly and you know, all the different potions and

bombs that you can use. It took the shackles off a little bit in relation to that stuff about it's not as because I guy's the open world nature of it, and you're not being able to prepare for battles as much as you can, yeah, because typically you'd have to like brew potions and consume them outside of combat, like during a meditation states. So b potions now you can take, you know, during combat, which is great. So

they've sped that stuff up considerably, So it's great. All all that stuff, you know, taken together first two three hours was just kind of not leaving a great impression on me. But then like the deeper you get into it and the more kind of character interactions and drama and quest lines and stuff you see play out, like you realize, like, this is a really

interesting, well written world that's not like like it. It feels like it kind of it subverts or or overturns a lot of kind of typical like a lot of the tropes that the fantasy video games fall back on, you know, like like the fact that he is basically a hero, but he's also a guy who works for hire, he doesn't do anything for free, and everybody spits on him, you know, like Witchers are thought of as freaks and outcasts, and people like literally and figuratively spit on them as they walk

by, Like like every town wants a witcher to come do their dirty work when they need it done, but then as soon as it's over, like they want them to get the fuck out of there and freaks and never come back, and like then curse at them as they go. You know, if someone spits on you, can you come on? I don't. I've never you can't. You can like uh like pull your hand back, like you can't punch them, and they'll get they'll get scared shitless off. Can

you attack in PCs? Oh, they don't, like they don't take damage. What you can do is that you can like raise your fist to them back. You try and cast like ignory, which is the fire spell at them. You'll actually make a puff of flame in your hand just to scare

them. Oh wow, it's kind of that's cool. But like there's like there's that stuff, and and like several of the quests I've gotten into, I find that like even even what's initially portrayed as the villain of a quest, like in a lot of cases, like that's actually just somebody who befell some like tragic circumstance, you know, and it's kind of forced them into a like a bad position, you know, like they're there are a lot of shades of great. You know, there are very few absolutes from whately

the lesser of two evils. So yeah, yeah, like yeah, multiple cases already in the first few hours of having to make like two tough choices like which one of these is going to do the least damage, you know, that kind of thing. And I think for like a fantasy game, fantasy stuff, like a lot of people don't like just high fantasy. It's

it's one of those genres that some people just find impenetrable. But the Witcher does this really great job of just not getting involved in the sort of melodrama you associate with some fantasy, Like there's this big war going on with this warfront and the North and the South, and just loads of people just don't care or they don't care about stuff that's happening in the rest of the world because they're like brother died and they're just like they don't really give a shit

about that, like the beast it's outside or whatever, because it doesn't matter. It all gonna be dead in two days. Like it kind of feels granded, like these are real people with like their small lives that they care about. Like the people in Novigrad are also blissfully ignorant of what's happening in

the rest of the world. They don't really care, and they're all just going they're like getting involved in weird religious rights because they're getting increasingly racist because of the amount of people are flooding into Novegrad from outside, Like it just feels like it's that real good fantasy where it feels like it's a fantasy world, but it's kind of reflecting things that are happening in modern society, not

like in Hobbit society. So it kind of sounds to me kind of like game Game of Thronesy, you know, like a lot of shades are gray, Like there's not a lot of like heroes and obvious villains and stuff, and it doesn't feel like I don't really like fantasy fiction much at all, but like I love Game of Thrones, and like the way you're describing this, this world and everything, Oh, it sounds more like that I skipped through Skyrim, Like I love Skyrim, but I skipped through quest lines and

not like no one's business, I don't read it. It was the same after Winding World of Warcrafter, I was coming on whenever and I stopped doing it, And in these I'm I'm reading like all the time. This is over all this feels much more like in your face and personal with the conflicts, not there's not a lot of like, oh, like world ending. Mcguffin needs to be retrieved or whatever. It's just like it's like, oh, this this kingdom is marching against this other kingdom and a lot of people

are dying and everybody. Everybody's dick. Everybody's pissed off. Right now, nothing is good. Okay. Yeah, it's been really interesting so far and kind of refreshing in that sense. And that's a lot different than I think the second game as well, because that was, you know, very political based as well. Also just in the in terms of like the pacing of the game, Like two started off with a bang. Yeah, they threw you right into you, like this huge battle, there's a dragon and everything.

It's it's crazy, whereas in this game it's much more subdued. Like you have that initial flashback sequence, which essentially is just a tatoria section, but once you get out of that, they just kind of throwing in the world. It's like, hey, go find Jennifer. How are you gonna do that? Enfer? Should they just misspell something on the birth certificate? And no one wanted to change it's a jay excusally a Jay typically and say, Jennifer, this is high fantasy, man. That's crazy. It's crazy

fantasy world. It's change one letter. It's kind of interesting that you point that out, though, because, Yeah, like at the beginning of the game, a gigantic battle has just happened in the area that you're coming into, but you miss it. You don't see any of the spectacle of the battle. You just see all the people who are still alive. You see that yet steer clear from Yeah, and very unhappy with the occupying forces, and like you know, they've lost family members or houses burned down, and

it's just a bunch of bad shit going on. But they're pissed off because like there's a base built down the road from them that wasn't there before. They're like there's they're having an argument in the pub because they've hung up a different manner for the new Army. Like it's that type of thing. Like it it's like this grand concept distilled down into what actually fisces people off.

It's it's it's been really good so far. That that alone makes me want to keep going with the game, even with the kind of minor issues. I think that open world Prologue area is one of the best like design decisions I've seen in like open world gaming in a long time. That because you start off in the White Orchard area, and it is an open area and there are side quests and there is the main like thing with trying to find Jennifer. But that's an open world, like you can just pop around that

area, but it's just kind of like a kiddie pool. And then once hang on, are you saying that the rest of the game is like bigger and opener than that. Yeah, then White the White Orchard thing, because I haven't gotten had a White world church. Oh yeah, the rest of

the game is like fifty times like White Orchard. Tiny. Well, so I was looking at it and like it is open in the sense that it's just a giant round area and you can go in any direction, but it did feel a little contained, like you hit you hit invisible walls, it's like you've reached the end of the world or whatever. That's that's the kiddie pool. Yeah, so it gets more expansive than that. There are two other open worlds that you go to that are like easily like I'm literally I'm

saying like fifteen twenty times like they are big. I was almost literally you know, that first starting area just had the one job notice board. Yeah, there's another one shortainly after that, where there's like fifteen Oh my god, yeah, that's ridiculous, like tons, and then after a while you unlock the Skellag Islands, which are this like archipelago of islands off of the coast. That's where the fake Vikings live. Yes, lots of Scottish and

Irish accents in that world in the world. Yeah, yeah, that's where it gets super scaring me. And that's this like basically the size of the Vela and Novograd area you're go into. Otherwise it's it's really big and it's dense, what I the way in which is different to Red Dead as well as there was a beauty and Red Dead of the negative like open space between towns. There is a bit of that here, but there's also like like there are villages within like half a mile of another, like it's there's it's

not as what Scanta is that it's way more dense. Is there stuff to do in all these little villages or they just kind of like window dressing most of them? Yeahst of them. If there's not, then it's because they've been like torn asunder by the NILF Guardian or whatever. Different people just like

a different vibe. Like you'll run across the villages that are doing well and the kids are outside singing songs and stuff, and then you know, just the next town over, everybody's crying because you know, their their huts have been burned down to the you know, to the ground. And yeah, it's it's it's a very different feeling world wherever, wherever you're at. Yeah, I'd say the world building has been the best aspect of this by far

yea, so far. It's really it's really evocative and engrossing. It feels like the towns have been built on like on on real earth that was there before. Like it doesn't feel like place shouldery like stuff like when it rains, like people run indoors like stuff like that, and like they pack up their markets in the evening and go back in and if a storm's coming and they all go off shit and they got this stuff together. And like the wind effects that happen in the game, even if you're in a cut scene,

it still happened. Like if you're inside of a bar and it was having a storm outside and then you're inside the bar and you're having like a little chat with somebody, like through the window in the background you can see the rain of the storming. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, the stuff, the stuff they do to bring the world to life is like from a technical sense, is is really impressive. Yeah, like trees being affected by wind and like the clouds rolling in and looking insanely ominous and stuff like that.

And then that stuff affects the beasts as well, so like there are a certain beasts which if there you fight them in rain, are like way underpower, and there's other ones that, like on certain terrain will be better because of like the type of the spells they have, and like other ones that only come out at night times. Yeah, it's it's pretty clear. It seems like there's a lot of mechanical density there with the combat and stuff.

I feel like navigating some of that stuff is a little iffy. Like the console interface I don't love as far as like it gives the system, like you know, you can you can tell that that was clearly made for like mouse keyboard again, like it's a little really hard to navigate. Yeah, it's a little busy and there's a little bit too much stuff to kind of button through on on the console, I think, But I mean you can you know, you can get used to it, but I think it's just

done. But the main like you know the combat wheel that you pull up with the like LB or whatever. Yeah, I think that's pretty interesting. So you guys haven't had any super game breaking stuff. I know if any had this infamous like horse button bar, yeah on Friday. I've had a of weird, weird freaking things. Like initially when I when I started playing it, I was having lots of issues. As it turns out, my Xbox One, like the cash was just like full, Like as soon as

I cleared that, it ran a lot smoother. Still kind of it's definitely shooting four or thirty frames for a second, but it seems like it's trying to go above that, and what's happening is we're getting like frames skipping. Yeah, like during combat. It looks kind of hitchy, but it's strange. It's not like tradition will slow down, you know by any means. Yeah, it's like it's still running kind of smooth, but it's everyone so it'll start yeah jumping in. I've had very similar stuff on the PS four.

It's goofy, but like definitely some AI issues, like I hopped into like this bandit camp and uh, you know, started pulling a couple of guys and they would not walk out past the gate. So they're just staying there leering at you. So yeah, yeah, it's kind of trying to attack me. So I would just walk in and swipe a couple of times and then walk back out, and they would never walk walk past that. My favorite thing has happened so far, which I had saved a video of

on the PS four. That's why that feature exists. Uh, there's a there's a side quest. You get, it's not there's not any kind of spoiler, but you know the herbalist, yes she helps, she helps you with some of the main story stuff, but she also has a couple of

side quests that start there. I didn't go back. She's got So there's a girl that's been attacked by the griffin that's around and you like this quest is just like, hey, go out and brew a potion to cure her or whatever, but like they're basically saying like, oh, she's mortally wounded, Like she's got this gaping like like stomach wound and she's just lying on

this table in the herbalist huts. Like bleeding in her head. They say she's also got internal like bleeding in the brain or whatever, but she's like you can see like blood, oliver and stuff like. Yes, I put the point is she's like on Death's door. I came back later to talk to the herbalist about something else, and it didn't occur to me to look over there. But uh, right after the conversation was over, I heard the door open behind me, and then I noticed that that table where she

was supposed to be lying was empty. And I turned around and looked, and here she comes walking through the door in this like very businesslike manner, just like making a bee line for that table, and goes over there and lies down on it and then resumes the like clutching her sides of animation and starts rocking back and forth. It's just like, all right, yeah,

it's like places everybody in the Witcher is coming so ridiculous. It seems like there's probably gonna be a lot of good videos coming out of this game.

On the flip side of that, Kevin said he did this action which again I'll be super vague so it's on spoilery, but he chose something which basically banished an individual to being lived stuck on an island somewhere, Like they basically just banished somebody to an island, and then something like ten fifteen hours later, he's on a boat going past an island and straight up the corpse of

that person is there. Wow. Yeah, that's cool. It seems like there's a ton of just little detail like that scattered around the world for sure. Uh. Yeah, that games seemed pretty good. Yeah, it's I'm hooked. Yeah, I am very much just like sitting here thinking about like

I kind of go home and play more. I think it's kind of I was playing on the Xbox One and and enjoying like a sunset and you kind of have that feeling like with the start of fall Out of Skyron, where you're like man possibilities, And then I thought about that the last open world game I'd played on that console, Watchdogs, and like Assassin's Creed, and like it's so far beyond like any other open world game that's currently available on

on current gen consoles. And in terms of like role playing games, like even in terms of like really high technical kind of what the Witcher two was more like like that type of genre on PC it's it's like it's doing stuff that is like it just feels completely new. It does feel like a sort

of a step forward for that entire genre. Yeah, I think this is it's like the perfect time of year for it to command as well, because we don't really have that much going up to E three and kind of beyond, and this is a game you can easily sink like weeks and months. Absolutely the next next major release I can think of as Batman and that's that's a month away. Yeah, so yeah, plenty of room for the Witcher here, which seems like it's going to need it because I think Kevin put

like one hundred hours into it before. Yeah, that two hundred thing isn't isn't a lie, I wouldn't say it does. Also like whatever that means, you know, you can. The thing about it is, you won't ever one hundred percent this game. You're gonna have to do multiple play through Steven see everything. But then they've got the sixteen free DLC things, some of those requests, and then they're bringing out two expansion facts and one of those is straight up a new area, so that whole like overworld map.

You zoom out and you see everything like they're gonna stick something new in there as well. So so bleak yeah, which is three man yeah playing out forwards. It's really ambitious. It doesn't you know, I don't think it does everything perfectly, but what it's doing is pretty impressive. Hopefully the PC version isnt buggy. No one's got the play fingers crossed. It's weird because Super Weird C Project has been very vocal over the years about how like PC

focused they are as a studio and how much they love the PC. And that's what they've been shown off at like E three, right, like in PC version you yeah, right, I'd assume that's the lead platform, right, you would think, But then like press wise for review and stuff, they nobody nobody got PC as of as of right now. I don't think the press outlets have still gotten PC. Day before release, I got my email from those those guys and it was a goog key which will unlock at

four pm really today, so they nobody's getting it. So the only people who are playing on PC right now are the litany of folks who have downloaded illegally on our Twitch streaming. Yeah, did you see the email that they put out or the message board post where they were like two people who had

downloaded the like tarrented version or whatever. They were like just so you know, like, we're gonna give you support for the game anyway, but if you want to give us some money, it's gonna be like these sixteen free DLC things would be really cool. That'd be right, Yeah, support us so we don't go out of business. I love their model. I have no problem giving them totally. Seriously. Yeah, they have good ethics over there, CD Project for sure. All right, well, guys, we've

been so hot and heavy with his Witcher business. We were so eager to get into the witching that I forgot about a little bit of housekeeping. There's dynamic beard tech. We forgot that. That's a huge spoiler, man, dynamic beard tech. That's not really is it dynamic longer? Like if you go to a different area. Oh wow, Okay, Well, because I know, I know you shave at a certain point. Yeah, I just

got past the part where he's shaves. You have to shave at that point, you do, but apparently it'll grow back, So just don't download the DLC. Oh yeah, you know what you should do. Actually, it's just be careful about what barbie you go to. Oh yeah, that's all I'm gonna say. I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but just there are some hair dressers in the world of the Witcher who are more good

at their job than others. Okay, let's say that works at emptor Mother some some some fly by night fantasy barber colleges out there, and when they give you back cut, they will not be repentant. Put it that way, all right, Dynamic Beard. Good to know. Well, so you're doing it again. Man, Sorry, I got at the stuff talking about besides, which I wanted to mention briefly for the sake of our friends in New York. Boost. Yeah that's Giant Bomb East has got their podcast starting

up very soon. Yeah. Wow, the Beast Cast is imminent. I believe that's the case. I don't want to speak for those guys, but yeah, I believe things are heading in that direction. But they are going to have like an episode zero posting this Friday. Just inter Yeah, they're not, they're still getting their feed set up and all that stuff, but that will be appearing on the website, I believe, as currently scheduled on Friday, yeah, you can. You can. You can find it on

the site and then subscribe to the RSS there. Yea, will that be a Friday podcast? Get yourself in the system. I believe that's the intention. Yeah. Cool, like a we'll spread out from this thing. Yeah, give this behemoth room to breathe. But yeah, stay tuned for that on Friday. Now back to video games, I guess Dan, Yeah point pretty much the exact same game as The Witcher. It's Mario Puzzle and Dragons. Yea, they both have dragons, I assumes. Also also a lot

of fucking in Mario. Right. Oh you've gotten to that part. Yeah, that part was weird. It's really yeah, something else this me Nintendo, man, I fu do an ay of guys, done the big games for everybody, all right, the catered all interests. No, like just hearing about it, Like when I heard the announcement about Mario puzzling dragons, like I just thought instantly like, well, this doesn't sound like my thing at all. Like I love Mario, but I'm not like a slave to

every weird spinoff they do with Mario or whatever, you know. I just kind of like the core series for the most part. Two places, so I was charged, so I tried it, but I think soccer stupid. So I didn't like that game at all. You know, like Mario Kart, Mario Tennis, Mario golf and stuff. That's all great tennis and golf, okay, but soccer is not. Yeah, they're real sports. But anyway, when I heard about this, I was like, okay, so

it was it's an iOS game. It's just been downloaded eight hundred billion times in Japan or whatever, and so I'm just thinking like, oh, that sounds like some shitty Monster Hunter thing or something like. I don't know, I know when I just hear, like when I hear like huge in I don't know. Did you not even know it was a Match three game? Well, once I saw the pictures and so I was like, okay, it's a Match three Cool. I mean I like Match three. I talk

about it in the office. Where did you go from iOS to Monster Hunter? Because it's just huge and like China and stuff. Yeah, I don't know. I assume that everything that falls into the category of things Dan doesn't like all exist in one bucket in his brain. Yeah, is my guess. Yeah, the bucket is my brain. Monster Hunter and Monster Hunter and shitty iOS. Free to play games are probably basically the same thing, the same. All right, yeah, something sucks, It sucks, right,

Well, do you have different suck buckets. It's not it's not talking about Brad Suckucket. That's an appropriate topic for this. I think Brad suck Bucket. They're on tour. Yeah, that podcast is coming on Thursdays. Okay, yeah, we got another bucket podcasts what sucks this week? Two old

fans? Oh yeah, sorry, no. So basically I thought that this game was not going to be for me, you know, like I like puzzle games fine, but like free to play I don't tend to like on like mobile free to play stuff like this sound like some kind of cash in dumb thing or whatever. And so I didn't know anything about it. And so yeah, I got a pretty released copy and started playing it and instantly,

uh loved it. Like it actually has some mechanics and stuff that are that are totally different than the typical match three like you are trying to match three things, but like you get to drag it around with the stylists and set up like a billion different little combos within the bottom screen. Yeah, that's awesome. And so like, I like that on its own, but

it's the it's the team building thing that really hooks me. So you basically just build this team like of goombas and kopas, but you'll have like you know, Fox Mario or Fire Luis or whatever leaders, and then you get these little helpers, so you'll have like, you know, six guys going into these dungeons with you, and uh, you're all like element based too, right, yeah. Yeah, So you've got the basic triangle of like you know, fire hurts grass or wood. You know, wood hurts water,

water hurts fire, whatever. Then there's also light and how does would hurt water? Well, it soaks it up. I don't know, yeah maybe sure, yeah, all right, fine, you've ever hit a lake with a baseball bot? Yeah? Yeah, But yeah, it's the team

building things incredible. So, like all your guys level up individually. So if you're going into like a water based level where you're gonna fight a lot of like cheap cheaps and bloopers and stuff, it's like, well, I better bring in a bunch of piranha plants and goombas and shooting these wood guys. And then there's some words more kind of varied, so you need more of a all around good team. But yeah, it gets pretty difficult.

You can like it's got some like Pokemon style stuff, or you're you're collecting all these different things and evolving them with different items and stuff. You can, like if there's a bunch of shitty goombas that aren't doing anything, like a bunch of level three goomas you're not using, you can like feed them all to your like you know level ten goomba that you like a lot. That's super gross, but okay, yeah, but man, it's just it's

fucking awesome, Like I really really like it. Like I can see myself putting dozens of hours into this game. And then the thing is there is the Mario thing, and then there's also an entire like puzzle and dragon z game which I've just touched a little bit for the purposes of the quick look, which if you check it on this Like Jeff and I were both like

all about this game. But yeah, it's all this like kind of like light RPG, Like you know, your mom wakes you up in the morning and you gotta go learn how to do shit and walk around to town, which is very stereotypical like you know JRFG. Yeah, yeah, the beginnings of such. But it's so different than you know, the regular free to play thing. You know, they don't have those RPG elements. You can still combine mosters and everything. The mechanics of that are still the same.

But yeah, it's pretty amazing that they actually went through and created this little this little game it's inside of that game. Yeah, it's too Like at the beginning, it's like, do you want to play Mario Puzzling Dragons or do you want to play Puzzling dragon z And like the Mario one just kind of leads you around, like it looks like a new Super Mario Brothers kind of world map, or like you're going to toadhouses and you're going to level

three four. I know, I'm gonna fight Iggy at the end of this airship or whatever, you know. But then, yeah, there's this whole like kind of weird RPG thing on the other one. But I'm not even going to dive into that until I finished the Mario one. But yeah, if you want to see both the quickliks on the site, I am so

goddamn into that game. And it's such a pleasant surprise, like That's one of my favorite things in games is when something that wasn't on your radar or whatsoever comes out and you're like, I'll give this a shot, and then oh, it's fucking awesome. I've spent countless hours playing the mobile version, and but it is a free to play, so there is that wall there, but they've removed all of that. Yeah. Yeah, so this you just buy the cart or the download and then there you go. You never

have to worry about it a little bit investment. So what's the hook that keeps you coming back? Because are you unlocking new people because there's no endgame right? Well? Yeah, like the Mario one, like I think there's eight worlds, like you beat the eight Worlds or whatever. There's like a

time attack mode that I don't really messed with much. But for me, the hook is building these teams and leveling them up, and like you can have like six slots for different teams, so it's like, oh, here's my badass fire team and here's my all around team, and just figuring out who kind of your all stars are and feeding other guys to them and leveling up their skills and shit. Like there's a lot of hooks beyond just the match three stuff, like for people that got into puzzle quest and stuff like

that. When they build interesting mechanics and features around the core puzzle gameplay, I think that's pretty awesome. And this is one of the best examples I've seen. Is this one of these ones that's not made by Nintendo? Right, this is now it's a gung ho. Does it feel like a Nintendo product? I mean the Mario stuff it, like I said, it looks like a world map and it's toadhouses and there's paratroopers and ship so like it's

all these characters and stuff. It doesn't because like the Nintendo games have that certain like there's a feel. Yeah, it's like it just feels real good in your hands. You're like it's a fit and finish, you know. Yeah, it's like just a like you know, everybody hates the word polish at this point, but it's super polished. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. I mean it's hard to you know, compare like how it controls are because you know, Nintendo doesn't do a bunch of

like puzzle games or whatever. Well, I guess doctor Mario. It doesn't feel like some like flash game knockoff where they took a bunch of jpags and then just no and actually like together. Just out of curiosity, I downloaded the iOS version to try it out, and like, yeah, the gameplay is there, it's the same basic like puzzle gameplay, but everything just seems to be like yeah again that word polished or whatever. It just feels and

looks better on the Nintendo One. It's a premium experience. Yeah, yeah, you're paying for it, and yeah, you get what you pay for. I almost wonder if you could look at this as like a proof concept for the Nintendo DNA partnership. I hope, So, like, here's an example of Nintendo working with a mobile free to play focused publisher and like what comes out of that. Yeah, maybe not necessarily, you know, obviously

not the same people involved. It could be different in some ways, but like it's nice to see the kind of the you know, the Nintendo Seal of quality, yeah, translating to something else's because because that thing is so meaningful at this point, it doesn't feel cheap at all. It doesn't feel like they're just slapping these Mario characters on, Like it's it's a really really

good game. It's cool. Check that out. So puzzling dragons no longer exists in your suck buck looking out of the suck bucket, right, good to know, right out of the suck buck right out. Now it's free to fly. It's in the cool shit buck like a bird. It's the cool the cool shit bucket. Yeah. Yeah, down the refrigerator, yeah yeah, keeps the stink at. Other than that, I'm just playing through Last of Us again. That game turned out it is still really really good.

Yeah. I just kind of pick that up on a one this weekend. Yes, fo Yeah, got through the sniper part and the suburbs. That part's really cool. Yes, yeah, that was awesome. I ran Beta Breakers. Oh god, that's right. I've got to ask you about that. Yeah I did that, right, I don't you actually ran it? Yeah. Well that's the thing is, like I had heard people talk about this like it was some crazy city event or party or whatever. Yeah, so set it up for people who don't live in the Bay Area.

Yeah, as someone who came in from out of town, like a lot of people told me, because I moved here like eleven months ago. So Beta Breakers had just kind of ended, and they're like, oh man, you just missed Beta Breakers, just miss betabrek Man. It's the best party citywide party. I was like, what the fuck is this? I oh, it's like this race, but then people do weird stuff during it, and I was like, okay, is it's like a costume race or what

the hell is it? So I just showed up like it was a normal Like I've done a much of five ks and ten ks, and I just showed up like it was one of those. And uh, yeah, I ran it like a normal person. But that's not the same strategy a lot of people have. Don't Most people turn up halfway drunk. That's kind of what I heard. Like, I got on the train at like six to go to this thing, and there's a guy dressed as a forty of ult forty five. He was drinking a tall boy of Madelo or Modello. I

don't know, but uh, it's weird. It's like saying a cult forty five drinking different. Yeah, drinking forty five is that cannibal? It's weird though, because they've really cracked down on it in the last few years. Yeah, I heard to be complete fucking bedling. Well, they just have floats, right, But then they were just leaving floats all over town.

They were wrecking the whole route, right. It was like I knew a guy that lived on right off the Panhandle on the route, and he fucking hated it because it was nothing but drunk people throwing up in his bushes and like banging on his door all morning asking to use the bathroom. So that's what That's what my uber driver said, is that like the Panhandle especially is where a lot of that happened. People were puking all over the place.

But there were signs everywhere this year that said like no alcohol on the trail. You know, there were cops everywhere. Yeah, they they don't like, like if they see you with alcohol, they're gonna do something about it. Now, like it's but people used to like people would get kegs and just drag him in wagons behind them and just like it was just it was just like booze everywhere, you know. Yeah, I sent to people I saw zero of that. That's okay. So I saw us. I saw

numerous penises, yeah yeah, and they were all old dudes. Yeah, all the naked runners were old men and they were in no hurry to get to the finish line. They're just walking around the penis is hanging out and there's just cops everywhere. That sounds great. It's just legal. It used to be an old naked guy just walk in front of a cop and say hi. And you know how I remember, what's this? You know the law enforcement officers interpret the law. Let's say on site. Is it just

because they have bigger fish to fry than some old guys dick? But I don't know, it was. It was just shocking to me. Like again, I don't know, like I've heard their areas around town where that's you know, kind of a common thing in San Francisco, but coming from Kansas, I think it's more of a Beta breakers thing and like a Halloween thing. It's not been every day, like there aren't naked people walking the streets. Baker Beach Man on the daily there beside the Pasdo. I almost ran

into naked Kevin van Ord on Baked Beach one day. Yeah. Well, like I I told my dad about this. I called him like at the finish line to tell him, like I talk about all guys dicks, and he told me, like he's like, no, they can't just be walking around naked. It's like, yes, Dad, I directly saw their penises.

And he's like, Dave, if somebody did that in Lenexa, Kansas, within like ten feet of walking out their front door, like eighteen cops down thrown in the cloth, it's got to be some kind of special allowance for this event, you know, Like I cannot imagine, like if I just walked out of CBS naked right now, I can't just like walk down to the Gummer station and get on the train. He tried. I don't think, but there were places around the cost sure up until a couple of

years ago that you could walk around naked. They just like every day. Yeah, I assume they were just like going easy on it for stuff like Halloween and this where people are out drinking and getting crazy all the time. Yeah, they're probably pretty loose about it. Maybe it's called two years ago they brought in a thing saying you couldn't do it. Oh wow, Vinny. Vinny was just here for the big live live show stuff and he got here his hotel. Yeah, yeah, he was neked the entire time.

Actually, if he saw the big live live show that was on the premium sho he actually painted his body of the black it wasn't it wasn't his usual shirt, right and right. I know his hotel was right on Howard Street, which I guess they were doing some festival called the how Weirdest. Yeah, I Passeda. That was it was. It was real weird, weird

weird. Yeah. Then he said like he just immediately upon like landing in San Francisco and he's like, all right, that's the citam and just like a dude twirl on his dick around like in the middle of the back the how Weird Festival. It was. I had just wanted into town to meet somebody. I didn't know this thing was going on. It was literally outside the right outside the office, and there didn't seem to be any rhyme or reason of where the weird was coming from. There was like naked dude weird.

There was like, you know, I'm wearing leather like all over my body except from my crotch weird. There was like I'm an extra in the first Matrix movie, like dance scene weird. And then they just had this like nondescript loud music playing all over the place. The weird the Second Matrix, the first Blade movie, it was true. The weird. The weird has a way of diffusing itself throughout the city, you know, from like like was the worse the route for this. It goes south of the park.

It started near in Barcadero Station. It went along Hay Street up that what's the full house Hill Square? Uh no, that is the Victorians. Yeah. Actually the actual house is further up near Steiner. That's just where they had a shot on Alamo Square. Oh okay, but yeah. It goes right up Hey Street, right past Alamo Square and then through the Panhandle and then through Golden Gate Park and it ends down there into the park. Yeah, okay. Through. I went to the Safeway near my house north

of the park yesterday or about noon. That was a mistake. God damn it. We were like a block from the Safeway and there was a guy in a full size shark costume peeing on somebody's garage to work. My god, was shark costume totally? It was the guy. It was the open the left shark. Oh wow, Jesus. And then we went grocer shopping and I wanted to punch a bunch of people in the face. The whole

time it was just a run with drunk people in costumes. I bet I didn't see a lot of the drunk people because like they organize you by corrals, so it's like elite runners, you're gonna be seated, like you're the first ones at eight o'clock. You know you you go immediately. But first, I mean the first finishers finished in like thirty five minutes. I was insane. Well what distance is it? It's about seven point five change.

Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I'm sure that the people that just want to like drink and do that shit, like, I'm sure they were in like they weren't like trying to get indie like six minute mile corral or whatever. So what was your time? Uh? You know, I don't know. I haven't even looked at me. Suck it did because my leg gave out pretty bad on the last mile and I had to like limp the whole last mile. It sucked. What was you ten k speed? Uh? Ten? Guy? I did? And h was it? It was one

hour and fifty seven seconds. So I wanted to get a sub sub hour next time. So but yeah, it was. It was fun. I I don't think I expected as much, just like spectacle and pageantry out of this thing, like I was kind of expecting like that. I'm just gonna run for a while. But yeah, you see some crazy stuff. No, no, it gets nuts and it used to be even nuttier. Yeah it was. It sounds pretty nutty from what he was talking about. That

still bad, Still quite thank you. No, I mean there were parties and stuff like you saw a bunch of how and stuff with tons of people were like sitting on their awnings or roofs or whatever, just like having beers or people dancing and windows and stuff like that. Like I don't know, it's just a really kind of positive thing overall. Like I liked the all vibe of it. That's fun. It's a good time, cool for many. Uh, Jason's up. Thank you for being here, Thank you for

having Yah. Yeah you're playing it, hanging out with you guys. I love Jason on the bumbcuss. I love when he pops on. Yeah. I'm not gonna listen to this one though. You're you're listening to it right now, boring. I already know what happened. People hear this, you've heard the whole thing. Yeah Don talked about is what was it suckboxing or something? Yeah? Good Jesus Jason, did you play anything besides the Witcher? I don't think I did a little a little more of combat here and

there. I'm still playing that on the Ever already talks about that though. Blanch you know Blanch right, the old lady. Oh and yes, and the arena background. He's no fucking brutality. I finish out the round with with her like you are burned, throwing her at the opponent, okay, with as the last hit. Yeah, just just try that float or something. She does something way fucking cool. If you're any character, you can

use her as a brutality. Yeah, she's a stage interaction or was that in there from the beginning or is this like a weird that's that's really awesome. Are there any other stipulations for the brutality or do you can you just throw her? Yea, I think you can just throw it, but you have to meet or burn it, so like a version of it. Awesome. I love the idea of them taking stuff the community has run with and like just tweaking it out a little bit. And they've post release. That's

but they've been needing some of that goofy shit. You know, I missed that from the old Mottle comment. But yeah, have you have you figured out the Kano morph? Yeah no, no, non't okay, the giant cage multiple okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love how they've always embraced that, like, you know, from like Scarlett being like an early like palette swatch glitch or something, and just turning her into an actual DLC

character. It wasn't irmac comes from like it's error macro or machine okay, right, yeah, it's like turning these like stupid things that happened and new actual characters with mac story and like cut scenes and stuff like I love that ship. Ye was like the early stuff like you know you have to wait for like Santa Claus a flat across the moon or something like right or toasty guy in front of the portal and yeah, did you see him in the

friendship screen on the on the yes, the South. Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. I think MK two was kind of the pinnacle of that stuff because they put it out unfinished, you know, like it was missing fatalities and like major background elements and so many different yeah variations.

They were sending out new boards like every couple months or what stuff was changing so much in that game that it was easy to believe, like different versions, like when when Kano and and Sonia showed up in that background chained up, you know, like in a later version, it was super easy to believe, Like what if you could turn into them? Yeah, that must exist. Uh was it three where you just randomly play Pong after like three

hundred versus matches or something like it just it just turns out. I think that's I think that's right. Yeah, that's serious the best. It's pretty good series, not bad, Uh, Danny, you played the thing sides of the way. Yeah, so I got into a PlayStation now, which is that streaming service? Yeah? So the nineteen ninety nine a month, which is way too much. But is that a is that like an a basic I can play kind of? I didn't realize opens up everything. Yeah,

so nine nine you basically get it all. I think at it all. Maybe there's some games like on the top tier that you then rent. I don't know, but basically there was a large pool of like maybe forty games, like good games like Buyer Shock Infidence in there. The Last of us Ko and Shout Out of Colossus are in there. So I'm gonna go back, and I've never completed those games, so I'm gonna go back and play those. And the one I've been playing though is Tokyo Jungle. Oh

yeah, which I never really played much at all. And I've been telling my my girlfriend doesn't really play games. She kind of plays games. She's like, she doesn't like think of herself as a gamer or whatever, but like she completed Mario Galaxy one and two and we play Mario Card at home and stuff like that. She likes the sims, but she doesn't like,

like play the games like Tokyo Jungle. But we were in the park one day we saw Amaranian and I was like, oh, let me tell you about this really fucking weird game which I used to watch my fair Patrick play, which is this game where you basically it's like I've just realized now that there's it's Bloodborne, but in likes like that that's kind of what it feels

like. You're like unlocking all these characters and stuff. So anyway, I went on PlayStation now when loan behol of Tokyo Jungle sitting there, and it has a multiplayer feature where you I don't even know that it is like ten times harder than playing single play because you have to feed both of them and there's about a quarter of the food, so much food to go around. Yeah, and they limit it so it's like hardly any food, and there's

hardly any like big food events. It's more like you're unlocking dumb clothes for your Pomeranian or whatever. So we've unlocked it into two of us. We've probably spent about fifteen hours of Tokyo Jungle over the past week. We unlocked almost everything in the Carnivore the last I got the Lion this morning. I woke up this morning and played it at seven am. I have the Witcher three you at home and took your jungle. You got that line, I

got the line, I got next one. Up's like this weird velociraptor thing and then I gotta then we gotta do the herbivores. But they fuck suck, so whatever schemes messed up, but it's great, and that that PlayStation net thing. Once I've had it where like i've the needed at at home, but only once. If I had it where it's like it's like pixelated and then you're like, oh fuck, yeah, this is actually streaming.

Forget certain points like the laate like you know, I'm not playing first person ship, so like when I played Virus Shock given it it felt a little bit more like Swimmy or whatever, like Tokyo Jungle whatever, So it doesn't but yeah, you totally forget. And that was it. I've never had a crash during I've never and we've had long game sessions like four or five hours long. I've never had it like buffer badly and like get badge.

I just had one time I've played it where it just didn't want to connect. I don't know if the contingency ratio in my local area was pretty high or whatever, but nineteen ninety nine two forty a year, yeah, like a lot of money. Yeah, yeah, that is awesome just having that like on demand whenever, like oh I want to play you know this game, but I mean, like you want to download it, they need to brought in the library, like the it's it's still just PS three games right

now, right, Yeah, I don't have any PS two stuff. No, no, no, no, definitely no PS two stuff. But it's it's kind of a wide birth of like they've got slic stuff in there. They have like f one twenty fourteens in there, so I'm pretty happy about that. And yeah, like the lasts weird having the last of us on there, considering you can buy it on PS four and now. But yeah,

like there was one of those use cases. I was I was telling my girlfriend about Buyer Shock Evidence, and then I was like, man, I want to go back and like just play the first twenty five minutes of that game. And I don't have an Xbox looked or Brenning, and I just went, yeah, whatever, and I literally jumped in and played twenty minutes and then jumped out again. Do you doesn't have full like trophy and

multiplayer support and everything. No, so there are there are some limitations here, Like from on Tokyo Jungle, there are a significant number of characters which are only purchasable via PSNE DLC stuff. Yeah, so like none of that because you can drop back to a cross media bar, but it's like it's got like three options on it, and you know it's super limited, so so you just can't, like the transaction stuff doesn't work. Yeah, I can't buy it. I can't buy it, and so that's that's there.

So like also with like trophies and whatnot. Like the trophies, I see them pop up, but I don't think they're on Maybe they're on my camp, but it doesn't feel like sure when we when we when it first came out. Yeah, the trophies stay with you, really, they stay on your account. Actually, I guess the leaderboards stuff is all my friends, so I guess it probably must be bleeding into that. Ok. Yah,

so maybe it does. But the DSc stuff that suck because I would easily like drop like ten fifteen quid on some cool like like Tokyo Jungle ass like there's a businessman apparently you can download and stuff, but I just can't access that, which it kind of opens up another like kind of worms in terms of game preservation, like why are we gonna do when that shit's gone completely? But yeah, it's it's a cool service. I just think it's the wrong price point. You need to drop it down. Yeah, well it

was even more degregious when it first came out. And this, you know, this, this kind of all you can eat twenty dollars option is better than that stuff was because you know you were paying God, what were the prices? Yea, yeah, they were all over the places I was like, Andy were from like six ninety nine to like what twenty bucksers, I say, there's more than six months, right, yeah, the words of

all. The worst thing was you can only get it for I think ninety days was the longest at the beginning, and there's exorbitant prices for only ninety days of access to the game, you know, and so like they're getting there, but it seems like it's slow going well in some circumstances, the like ninety day rental was significantly above like what you'd pay on Amazon to just get the game. Yeah. Wow, yeah, so at that point,

like I like the way you're describing it now. The best like the kind of the use case for me is almost just like oh I don't have to hook up my PS three to play this game. I want to play. Yeah, And it's kind of the way it integrates into the PS four is kind of cool as well, because like straight up I have like Tokyo Jungle is a button on my PS four like dashboard or whatever, Like I just

go do there and it goes authorizing and it takes like two seconds. Yeah, they're they're like they're getting there, you know, Like it seems like it's well thought out in most aspects, just certain like pricing and stuff like that. Yeah, so I don't know about what the rest of the pricing is around it. They just had a big like seven days for if you sign up now. So I just gave him did the twenty bucks a month

thing. It charged me seven days later. So you can just go in there and try and then cancel after six if you if you you're not sure. But yeah, as like an actual technical exercise, I really enjoyed it. I thought it was It was pretty cool, and I'm probably gonna use it for another month or so over the summertime. With like shadow of the classes and Naiko so and so, no commitment like six month commitment or anything.

You can just do it for a month and then be done. Yeah, okay, as far as I'm pretty sure, I haven't done that. I hope not. I hope it's not like that. What was that EA access bullshit that I was on that They were like six months? Jason, are you still in that? I still can't figure out a way to get rid of it. Isn't just billing you every month? Yeah, it's been

billing me five bucks the Warcraft subscription. None, damn it. Yeah, will get something out of it. I played yeah, Dragon Age Inquisition for a few days before release, and yeah, that's cost me like fifty bucks. Oh great, And about the game, dude, I did it for early access to a FIFA demo really yeah, oh my god. Oh that's right. Yeah, because you get it early access to you a letter titles

sports. We've all been there. I think I'm going on my fifth month of having a copy of twenty one Jump Street sitting on my coffee table. Nice blue riff. Yeah, I've looked through the website. I've looked through I mean, obviously the console. There's no real easy way. I'm sure there's something on EA's website that I've got to or someone I can call. I gotta call someone and give them a face of your mind. I remember

it, you know every time that they tell me. It's like, hey, we're gonna show you five dollars again, dumb ass, And I'm like, oh, I gotta take care of this tomorrow, and then I forget and yeah, that's that's the idiot tax. Is my five dollars or the laziness tax whatever? Yeah, well the idiot Yeah, mostly dumb one and the same. Uh, it's pretty much the Witcher for me. Yeah, it's so all consuming. I haven't really any Gwent no I played. I

played the titorial match. I'm afraid to get into this. Yeah, Gwent it seemed kind of cool, but like the whole like you've only got ten cards for the whole match, and how many do you want to play in the first round? Like that seemed like it could be tough to explain. This is the end game card game. There's the triple tryaud of this game. It's the little collectible and you're like you go around buying cards from merchants

and ship. Yeah. I could see people getting really obsessive about the GWEN. I'm afraid to touch it. They are like straight up like it's like there's a story character I've matched called the Bloody Baron. You made him. He's he there's a lot of stuff in him, great character. Yeah, he's fucking good at GWEN and if you beat him at Gwent, he's got like three super cool Gwend cards and he's like, if you play with me,

I'll give you one of my cards. And there's like a straight up like tournament in Novegrad like a big like magic gathering style tournament for Gwen and they I tried to go in. It was like it was in the brothel. There's a car And I was like, I want to sign up to the Grand Tournament and he looked at my deck and went, nope, that's pretty good. Do you get anything for winning? Like, so, I've only the only NPC I've found who would play me was the tutorial Guys.

Yeah, I haven't seen how how like what the use case is, but so I asked CD project when I was that more so, this isn't a spoiler. I don't know when it happens, but he said. I asked him, is there any chance you know the way in like mass effect or I guess in the Witcher where like sometimes you can just use your spell to like get past the story a bit like speech check speech check. Yeah.

I was like, is there every time where you can just go yo, let's if I beat you in you gave me out And he was like, maybe, it's pretty awesome. Say apparently that it does come. If you're quint is high enough at the same stage, you can you can do that. That's cool. It's very cool. Yeah, the game seems pretty good. Looking forward to getting out of here and playing it. But before I can do that, we have to talk about the news. So let's move on to the news, which you get for news. I got some stuff.

Uh, I'm hearing the news music playing, I hear no no, Okay. So this story blew up really big last week, and then once it got clarified, it seemed like kind of less of a big deal. But the existence of that year's VOORHD thing is is basically confirmed at this point. Cool because people have leaked a bunch of video from the outpha that's going on. He's doing that, Yeah, black seams, all all science points, black tusk handling, handling that thing, years Viking. Let's hope that.

Yeah, seriously, let's hope that that's not the only Years of War product they are currently working on. Which ones is that? Is? That it's straight up Gears of War one HD. Yeah, so it seems like that's where it's going. Like when these rumors first started, you assumed it would be all three of them, right, But it seems like this product is just the first Gears of War that's downloadable thing. I don't want, well, you know, Obviously Microsoft's not talking about it because they didn't want

this in phot to be out there. Is this the first HD re rerelease of a game that was in HD? Oh isn't this game seven twenty? Well, I mean calling it HD? Yeah, I mean they're not calling anything. Everybody calls D you know, like all the games from last Gen. We're HD in some way. Anyway. Microsoft not thrilled that this footage and info was getting out there. Uh. And as initially reported, they were bricking people's consoles for the people who they identified as the leakers. Wow,

that we're in this testing program, we're having their consoles disabled. Everybody lost their ship because that's kind of a terrifying concept, right, that the maker of your console could just remotely kill your console. Yeah, that's an NSA nonsense. Yeah. But Microsoft was pretty quick to come out and say, no, we're not breaking consoles. We're basically banning them from Xbox Live,

just like we did with the three sixty. That's way different than bricking, which is yeah, which is yeah, that's something they've been doing for

quite some time, right. That was that was primarily my understanding. That was primarily how they combated mouded three sixties that people could just trade up pirate games on was once they detected you had a modeed system, they would ban it from Xbox Live and it was kind of useless, you know, and rightfully so sure, yeah, yeah, and so that seems like what they're doing here, like it's uh, it's not clear if it's going to be a permanent ban or if at some point they're you know, by their good

graces they'll say, all right, fine, you can get back on the folks who do this stuff though, like if they're not doing it on like made up a cans that they are like bought a cans around, Like it's like, what's the point and unlocking some of these you know xx Naruda find four twenty x X, who's like set up just to do this, you know, yeah spoken good old smoked dog. Yeah yeah, you would hope

they were using burner Xbox Live accounts. But also your box is host you know, you can't take it online, so not much you can do with video game console that is not Internet enabled in the day and age. So anyway, yeah, yeah, you know, like like I said, after the clarification came out, this kind of turned into a non story but it was like a couple of days of like, God, we really are in like the dystopian video game future. Anything. You're leasing your correleasing yourself.

We have all the power. Hey, guess what the most interesting part of that story is the fact that they're breaking consoles. Who gives a ship ben an HD make up the first Gears of War game? Yeah, well that's you know, that's what I mean when I say, you know, hopefully that's not the only thing they're doing. You know, yeah, like that studio, why are they doing it anyway? I mean, what the fuck you'd like to think it's kind of a holdover until the new Gears game is

done. Yeah, the worst Gears of War. That's assuming Like, oh, I don't know about that. Gears was a great game. You know, we're better games Gears of War two and Gears of War three three st judgment, fuck judgment, I fucking odst Gears game. Fucking side stories, the side stories. It's not Cannon. I don't have my d mic moan voice grow to the suck bucket. Yeah, I don't have the fondest memories too. I think it was the best one. I like a lot.

I don't I didn't like to to the Best multi Bear maybe, okay, fine, I'm talking about campaign. I did not like the campaign much into remember to end boss on Gears of War one, you fight this guy on a tram. Yeah, not bats at you. Yeah, a ram or something was surrounded by bats. But imagine those bats in HD I always do. It was an actually the first I don't have to imagine it. I had it nine years ago. Four K Marcus Phoenix if you thought his skin

was popped on the last console generation, what's you out, motherfuckers? I don't know. It's all kind of mood for me because I not really chopping at the bit to play another Gears of War game. But we'll see. We'll see what they do. Maybe they'll draw people back in anyway, don't break India's if you get into super top secret unannounced game testing. Yeah for sure. It seems like you know, so it seems like a self evident

wisdom. But there you go. And if you have broken NDAs, don't contact the news source and say you should pull that story because we broke NDA's right. Yes, that's also kind of a smoking gun. E three continues to approach all too quickly. Some stuff is starting to come out, you know, games are getting announced ahead of the show, Plans are getting announced for the show. Bethesda has come out, you know, they're having that

Sunday Night thing forty three. They're kind of their first big like in a theater, here's a bunch of stuff thing, and confirmed that the New Doom will be one of the games being shown there, which is I saw the easiest thing you could possibly today. Yeah. Oh, with the like two seconds I counted like maybe five seconds or less of actual footage, and then it wasn't that. It's a shotgun cocking shotgun confirmed close up Yeah, and

then a guy walking and shooting things from a shoulders res logo. Yeah. Very thankful for that feature on YouTube where you can hit numbers to go to like key points in the video, because I just kept hitting two over and over and it would just go back to the beginning of footage. You know, I scrutinize it heavily. Your dude is wearing like weird robot gloves. I don't know if you noticed. It's like when he's cocking the shotgun.

Yeah, like these big, thick looking metal gauntlet things. I don't know if those are just gloves or if you're in some kind of suit. I don't know, Titan Doom parkour. So is it straight up just being called Dooms? So I don't know if they'd even confirmed that, but they ever called it Doom four in the past, or they always just called it Doom. They haven't got good luck with fours, so I'm trying to stay away. I mean, the logo definitely just said Doom, and then now it

was yeah. But I mean they've they've been talking about, like it announced that they were making a new Doom in two thousand and eight. Yeah, but I'm sure like an unofficial capacity is like me know, when they're doing speeches whatever, they'll say Doom four. But maybe I've never seen like a press release saying Doom four. But it's it's definitely official that this is just

called Doom. Now that enemy is a revenant from Doom to anybody, if anybody noticed, Like, I wonder, it makes me wonder if they're gonna just go all out, you know, like we are going back to basics. We're gonna have all enemies from the old ones. We're gonna make them remake the first You're gonna run around looking for colored key cards. H the remake of the first doom YEP. Okay, sure, yeah, yeah, I'm on board. Who needs to look up and down? Fuck it,

let's go. Yeah. It's not like this wasn't the most predictable thing that they would have at this thing, you know, Like that's like that's kind of the only game they have announced that would show up at this Not a huge surprise, but it's still nice to have it confirmed and see a little snippet of footage at that thing. Just yeah, just buttering us up. Yeah, they can hit us with that fall that four announcement hopefully. Uh.

Speaking of things getting announced, there's a new Assassins Creed game. I'll let you catch your breath. Yeah it's it's always a new syndicate game. Yeah, no, such luck there its Asses Creed Syndicate name of the game. It's in London. Yeah it's then I would legally required to say London that way. Nah. Yeah, you play, you play a brother and a sister. Yeah. So you guys have like a big thing on this game. Did you guys had like a big preview? Nah, you'd be

soft tied one. We just fucking hijacked it. Yeah, we just did a pre and a post show. Oh is that what it is? Yeah? Okay, that's the future game journalism right there. Yeah, they did a big thing for it, showed it all off. Okay, well I was gonna ask you, but maybe you don't know about the nature of the brother and sister thing because they're both they both have the same parents. Brother and sisters were Okay, got it? No, so pan, you can

swap between the two of them. Okay, that's what. Yeah, because they're both described as protagonists, so it wasn't I wasn't clear how that was going to manifest in the gameplay. Is the first female protagonist apart from the operation? Yeah? Yeah, it's kind of like a side thing. Yeah. That was a handheld game on the fly, Like you could position one assassin like up on this tower and then flip to this other one and he's heard of this track. And I don't know. They didn't show that in

the gameplay. It's you were just playing as the dude. And I don't know if it's going to be that or if it's gonna be like the Unity where you're where you're like picking before each mission, because they were very much in like the missions in Unity felt like Instances almost because of all the weird co op stuff they had done. But yeah, there's like vehicles in this. Now there's chariot racings in London, different Burroughs. Looks like an Assassin's

Creed game. Yeah, sure does. Yeah. Yeah, new year, new game. It's just the one that I had, like some leaked concept heard a few months back. So this leaked back in November. Detail was at that time it was called Assassin's Creed Victory. Yeah, that's right. Maybe it was just a code name or whatever. Yea, now it's Syndicate. No multiplayer in this, yeah, taking a multiplayer. Yeah. They were just kind of generally like very contrite about the failures of Unity, which

they damn well should have been. Did that sell at all? I don't know. I don't know that they've I mean, I'm sure you could dig into their earnings or wait, actually would have had annual earnings reports. I would say that with the amount of studios they are involved in producing any one of those games, that it probably didn't do as well as it needs to as they wanted it to. Yeah, it's a it's a funny one. I mean it was you know, it was a. It was a genuine

public relations Yeah, Boomdoggle it's just not a fun game. Like, they made a bunch of games last year, and Watchdogs was boring as hell, Assassin's Creed was boring as hell and broken, and Fark Cry four was was once it's one game. Far Cry four was great fun, but it was

basically fark Cry three. But I feel like the only reason that that was the one good Ubisoft game they've kind of Apartment Child of Light that came out last year was because they don't even repeated the formula once instead of like fifty times that they've done with sassed about the crew. Yeah, there you go. Great year for driving games twenty fourteen, enough said Bride Paradise better. Yeah, well it's better than most things. Yeah, to be fair,

I feel about a bit like being mean on Assassins Creed. But do any of you guys really care about That's? No, not at all? Like did you like old Assassins Creed? Okay, it was okay, Like I I admired the ambition of the first one, even though it was like not the best game, like it was, there was a vibe there that was pretty unique at the time. I try them every time, and each time I think for something great. Even the better ones like Black Flag, I

recognized as better than the other ones. But it's still a boring ass game, Like it's a boring ass series. I loved One, two, I loved Brotherhood, Three was okay. Black Flag I kind of was starting to get a little bit annoyed of like all the question marks on this map that I'm gonna have to do. So I've loved the series, and I'm like, man, stop doing this. It's getting tough. I mean, you know last year. Last year was kind of the peak of that staturation because

they put two out on one day. You know, it wasn't just Unity. A Rogue also came out on the same day. Like it's just enough, man, But no, there's never enough. It's just that they'd keep like taking this assassin's templars like it was bad enough with all the real world nonsense. At least they kind of rolled into that a bit with Unity, with all the fun stuff. But like it's like, man, can't you

just tell a story about London? Why does it have to be everything about the fucking templars and SATs ends and the bed And I'm sure that stuff isn't going away, but it sounds like they are stepping further away from the real world or the modern day stuff. Like they basically said, they're kind of doing the same thing they did in Unity as far as having a modern day framing device. Yeah, but your assassins, simple ard feud is not going

anywhere. I bet uh you are going to get Charles Darwin and Charles Dickens though. Hey, yeah, get excited. Great, I guess probably DLC or some shit. Are you unlockham Bree you play? Yeah, play the game for ten hours and get off the dog and the bu play pre ordered. Fuck Fagan, I don't know like this, fam lady. I don't even I don't even want to read the next story after that, but here

we go. Anyway, it sounds like The Division, which kind of seemed like maybe one of the more promising new properties yeah that they've got going on, is now probably a twenty sixteen game. It is confirmed as its Wow, sorry, you're right, it's not going at this year anyway. They also Ubisoft is describing it as a fourth quarter release, but financially that would be the kind of January to March time frame for them. I don't know that that is the least shocking slip I have seen it. So see like

that game was on Like they have shown two little demos of us. Yeah, and it sounds by all means like this is actually something that is going to be like take it to the next level in terms of like world building or like you know, interactivity and the multiplayer stuff. So sure they kind of need to show more of that. So, I mean, nobody knows for sure exactly what it is, but the little kind of leaks and rumors here and there make it sound pretty cool, but not this year. Sorry.

Okay, play Asassin's Creed, No do it? Play the witchery? Okay, Witcher is the best Assassin's Creed game that's coming in years and thrown down the Gauntlet. That's really not sure? No, that would be a shadow more door yeah yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, sure it would be. Whitcher three is better than Mortar. I'm looking forward to it. They're both good games. Yeah, good games. You don't have to choose between your children. I can play both of them. Yeah, I can

like both of those games. Yeah. Oh man, that's cool. You can be like all kinds of different things. Yeah, man, that's awesome. Cool. How big is your bucket? It's a big bucket, good ship bucket. Yep, it's cool ship bucket, cool ship bucket. That's right. Uh. Next story, who remembers Casey Hudson? Yeah? Anybody aspect of the head Hudson soft yep, yep. He hails from Adventure Island, pym Rude here on the turtle shell. Uh, Casey Hudson. Yeah. It was kind of the head guy of the mass efect series, a

long time buy Aware guy and then left by Aware years ago. He has finally resurfaced at Microsoft. Resurfaced. Yes, yes, he will not be working on surface. Oh, sorry about that. Sorry for any confusion. The Giant Bomb cast apologizes for any confusion. He's a Microsoft, he is a creative director. It looks like he's mainly gonna be focusing on Hollow Lens, which is some mass effect ship, not exactly a video games. How the thing? Where's the thing they unveiled? God? When was It's?

Like realize I Gears of War two exactly? What it is? The thing where you can do like Microsoft paint, but in three D and it's a weird augmented reality thing with three D models floating around in your and your glasses or whatever. I kind of worked on mass effect. Doesn't mean that he like knows about it. Yeah, they're also hiring Martin Sheen to be involved, right, he showed up to work in the Maco on his first day.

Yeah, you know, Like, it's not a lot of other info out of Microsoft about this other than that he's mainly doing Hollow Lens, but it says he will be quote involved in driving a creative focus for Xbox and Windows gaming as well. Great, So that sounds vague enough to be a hollow promise. Yeah right, I don't know, Danny. Wait, am I to Dad? Am I to Downer? Am my dad bringing this bomb cast? You're bringing some quality. Hollow Leans is gonna be the best.

I can't wait till they integrated into that hot new Assassin's Creed game. But on your hollow LNS, now, Governor, I don't know. Hollow Lens looked to me very much like like here's this admittedly very cool looking thing that came out of R and D. Now what do we do with it? Let's figure it out? Connect sure? Just like that, Yeah, that's what CA is doing. Uh? Who likes need for Speed. Pretty good?

Yeah? Anybody miss Need for Speed? I could play a Need for Speed this year considering last year was the first time we have not had a Need for Speed game I needed. I don't really miss it in a very long time. Great, great, nice, good job, Thanks specials. Couldn't you have like peppered in one like real hot story in the middle scraping the barrel, scraping the suck bucket here, I've only got I've only gotten what news there is to work with I need for Speed. I believe in

your bride, you can turn this into something real. Hey, there's new Need Speed game coming. What they're announcing it on Thursday. I've got the need. Do you've done? Yes? The need for what SPEEDE? Okay? Great? Deed for Speed? Get excited. That's kind of all there is. They announced on the Facebook page for Me for Speed that they will

unveil a lot of announcements for announcements lately. Great. They announced that there's an announcement coming this Thursday where they will detail what the new Need for Speed game is. It's it's coming from Ghost Games again. What was the last one that came out? Was the one that was It was the launch Piers four and x X one. It was was that call I think, yeah, yeah, pick if you're a cop and pick if you're not a cop. It was it was hot Pursuit and then most wanted than Rivals, right,

Oh wow, I think that sounds right. I think Rivals was the launch one, so they flag then was the one afternoon they they the image they posted on the Facebook page. People took into Photoshop and did a bunch of leveling on it, some spectrogram and found yes, and found more image there than you can kind of initially see, which is making people think that this is actually gonna be a new need for Speed Underground game based on the

types of cars that they had covered from that image and stuff. Uh so, wow, that's that's kind of all I got for you for Speed Underground. I have the need so gameplay at the EA conference presumably three Chu chat yeah, probably probably sooner, maybe on Thursday. Dans Did you guys here there's a new need for speed game? Yeah, Brad just said it, did he Yeah, it was. We're in the news segment needs. Yeah, that's what we do here, run down the news in as business like

fashion as possible. Speaking of business, what you got oh, I don't have mpds for damn. Mpds are not cheap. I would love to have a subscription, but I don't know. Maybe a little hard to just fight numbers. I don't have the numbers. I don't have them. Do have Capcom making statements about its future business plans? Say working out for them more street Fighters to follow the economy plan. You wish it was more street Fight. I mean, yes, there is more Street Fighter, but you wish

it was more stuff like that and not them prioritizing more HD remasters. Oh god, they've been doing well with that. I guess so. And it's all our faults because we keep buying them. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, they've They said they had a Q and A session during a financial report recently where they said that it's going to be a major pillar of their ongoing business activities. This is what pisses me off is they masquerade as saying, well, you know, we'll do like a rerelease to gauge interest to

see if people want this series again. Do you know what I mean? Like, let's put out resid Evil again. Then maybe we'll make a new Resident Evil. So people are like, fuck, I should support this so they'll make a new Reason and Evil, right, and then cap comes like, oh my god, these guys really like HD remakes more doing those This is a vicious but I mean I didn't play it, but they did a pretty good job with that last resid Evil thing, right. Yeah. People

seem pretty happy it was better than six, but it was. It was definitely better, Like they handled it with kind of the proper or the sort of the respect to do that game, right, Yeah, and the new Devil mccraft forward. Right. That such a weird game to be making an HD. It really sounds like they're doing a lot of crazy shit with which a lot of that, yeah, like tons of different characters and scenes they like, playable trition and stuff, right yeah, and it seems like more

than just in the palette swaps. So yeah, they've got their old whole new move sets and like a Dynasty Warriors esque like you're fighting like a hundred different dudes all at the same time. It looks ridiculously cool. Yeah, that's cool. We'll see. I mean, it's a bad game at least they're doing a good job with that stuff. But still still but still want to see some news though. Have they mentioned any Uh, what titles we're likely to see? You gonna get some lost planet? No? Yeah,

let's yeah. He Gears of War is doing it. Why not? He's got Dead Rising one and HD. No, they didn't go to in in any detail. You can kind of draw your own conclusions there based on what they've put out and what they have coming out. I guess I don't know. Dark Void HD, that's yes, that's what the world is clamoring. Was it dark Void? A Dark Sector had the glave? That was Dark Void game? Dark Sector is not a terrible game. It's actually all right.

It is pretty funny. You guys are like not I was about it. I was about to call you Dark Sector apologists. But it's an all right game. Yeah. You couldn't do the thing where you could like you could do the first person or laying the first person to like followed the thing as it cut off someone's head or whatever it was in the glave. Oh yeah, you could like flight around like the like The Redeemer and Unreal Tournament. It was kind of fun, little mechanic thing. It's not bad.

I should hash it out with Chef sometime about Dersey. He's not a big fan. Oh, no, I think it sucks. Yeah, all right, yeah, it's in my suck bucket. I want to see what I reviewed it. I gave it, you reviewed it. You look up. I'm gonna look at up. I bought that game for ten bucks. That's had you ever played? It's still in the shrink rapp. I don't know. I think, don't worry. H d rerelease run in the corner. Bring it on. Who made that Digital Extremes? I believe sure, HD

Glave. The game is a game is remembered as the first next gen game that was announced for that generation. It was like the very first before there was even like three sixty NPS three announced the put this sent out footage of that. He was the first game, you know. Yeah, time makes fools of us. All yeah, I don't know. I don't I don't remember what that game is for this generation. Oh the first announced game? Yeah, like the first the first game targeted at the consoles that are not

announced yet. I mean Watchdogs. I remember Watchdogs was that thing at E three where everyone saw it and it's like, okay, that's clearly going to be on the new contact. I didn't like super officially say it. I think that was the same year as that Star Wars Bubbafet game. Yeah, that wasn't even a Bubbafet game at that time. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of a weird hun Solo knockoff. Yeah, poor Man's Smuggler type game. Yeah, I guess it was probably one of those. I guess it's

the oldest thing I can think of. Just find a score. No, I can't find it. I'm looking for it, but I remember kind of like, I'm guessing it's a seven. That's my guess. Search faster because I'm out of news stories. When Din didn't know if a game was good enough, he just gave it a seven. Yeah. Yeah, it's a safe bet. That's between the buckets. Yeah yeah, one foot firmly planted in each bucket. There you go. Yeah, I don't know if I can find it, that's fine, whatever. Sorry, let's move on to

emails. I guess because that's all the news I got for this week. Kind of a slow week. I mean, you know, like I said, stuff is getting announcements are getting announced, stuff is kind of getting teased, but you know, the best stuff is yet to come. I guess. Yeah, hopefully we're on the cusp. If we're lucky three won't be a huge disappointment that far. Oh God, please announce some games fallout.

Maybe it's probably something I mean, they have to you know, they've got to have a reason for running out a theater and doing their own thing, right. Yeah, it's not just doom. They're gonna show in our ten seconds of doom. Yeah, over and over for an hour. All right, emails, let's talk about them. Yeah, let's get through them before my voice goes I can field slipping uh BombCast a giant bomb dot com. Send the emails to that address. Ryan from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, send

an email to that address. He says, it works. Now, please stop. I am emailing you to confirm that your subliminal messaging has worked on me. So it's time to go catch that ad check from Nabisco and stop talking about fig Newtons. Jesus Christ. After what seems like a month of your weekly talk about figs, I broke down and bought a sleeve of fig Newtons at my local convenience store. Dan, don't stop eating fig newtons because

there might be bugs in them. Stop eating fig newtons because they're kind of gross, kind of plus plus, think of all the malt liquor you could buy with the two ninety nine. You were not spending on mediocre cookies. This is this is where I need to take an issue with this bullshit email, because fig newtons are not cookies, the fruit and cake, fruit and cake. Fig newtons are fruit and cake fruit in their ada. We're not a cookie. We're fruit and cake. Yep, Danny, you're the one

that ruined it for me. You brought back those fig newtons. No, you that ruined it. No, you brought it back from my Ireland. And as I was eating them, You're like, oh, you're eating about to wasp and I like, never ate another one. For God's sake, I gave you fig rolls. And then so why last week's body boncays. I was like screaming on my phone on the bus box to OKN like you got you got information from brid which said not wasps. They're like tiny little

things. And also they're gone, they're just gone. Like you're not scared of wasps, You're scared I am. I was like, definitely afraid. I've never been stung by beer washing and I've been scared of ship about those maybe a long time. Maybe Jason can, because Jason is the one who's known you the longest and understands where this this psychopathy comes from. But I've i've I've I've trimmed it down to one thing. Dan isn't scared of like

any of these things. He's He's somebody who like goes out of his way to be uncomfortable. Dan is scared of being proven wrong. No I'm not. I always admit when I've been proven wrong. No, you're like he likes being wrong on his own terms, like he's wrong. But that's but to to go back to eating figs and then to be able to be like, yeah, I guess they were realized that I wasn't. It was only

like tiny little wasper not the same thing I can do. This is fine, Like that's just that uncanny that that's like beyond he can't he it's outside of his comps. No, if I'm proven wrong about something, I will gladly always admit to and be like, no, I was totally wrong about that. So it's not good big in your math right now? I mean it imagine No, yeah, there you go. You're ruining it. Conybody's got like beer here is all manner of nonsense in it. There's a liquid

wash? Aren't liquid wasps can be liquids? Would you drink some liquid wasps? I'd be able to tell if there's a ground up wasp in my beer. I bet you would. Oh man, would that's what they mean. Maybe maybe what we really need to do is take him out and get him stung by some wasps. Why would I go with you? Why would I accept an invitation? You said you have a choice to your own good. No, I know what we're doing a good podcast in the next year.

I'm not going three dude, there's three of us and one of you. You're doing this shit. It's only because we love you. We love you, so we're gonna get you stung by his Take him down to the local wasp. Have you don't even stung by a wasp? Never been stung by wasp? Any kind of bee? No? No kind of ever? Have you ever been outside? Have you seen Jupiter ascending? No? Okay? Is that the one with Mela Kunas? Yeah? And I don't want to stripper guy, you may actually be the king of the entire our world.

If you've never been stung by a wasp, that's how that works. Yeah, Astachowskis, we got an election, you were coming out, Yeah, yeah, okay, I'll run on that platform. I've never been stung by a beech. Twenty six games play outside as a child, not a lot. And actually probably a lot of the reason was because I was terrified of bees. Like, oh god, Danny asked my dad about that. I was. I was not a very manly, tough guy when I came to see a bee. You don't need to be manly or tough to not be

scared of tiny insects. I'm not super scared anymore. Like, I'll go down to the beach, but you won't eat it. You eat cake. No, it's gross, super gross. I saw a commercial on Hulu the other day about a lady whose job it is to like grind up crickets and put them in the bars that you eat or whatever. That's gross. That's why I asked if you guys saw snow Piercer last week. They eat crickets?

Yeah, they eat? Yeah, Like the protein bars that they eat looks exactly like you know, the inside of a fig Newton, because it's it's all ground up bugs. Okay, yeah, yeah, future man futures. It's not like I was eating a shipload of fig Newtons and then he ruined him for me. I've had like maybe twenty big Newtons in my entire life, but I know that I've eaten my last thig Newton at the right poldage to thirty many weird in between buckets. But now they're firmly in the

suckbuck. Suckbuck. I wouldn't need it. I wouldn't need food from the suck I'd play a game from the suckbuck, but I wouldn't take food out of the sucker. Probably a sea buckets full of stick to that. Oh boy. Next email comes from Brady and Danton Ohio. I feel like we've floated this question at least three times before, but it's worth coming back to until we have an answer. Hey, guys, are we ever getting that free drive club? I don't want it still seriously at this point, I

mean, no, He's got a point, right. I could see it being like a PS plus game, and then technically you got a free drive just like the whole game. Just put the whole thing like addition, Maybe that's the route at this point. Once the sales drop off enough, like that probably is a lot less engineer hearing work, and like making the separate, standalone free subset of the game like it. On one level, it is completely unforgivable that they haven't done this yet. Like it's just that they

straight up led and should be held a cantable for it. It just so happens that Drive Club was not a very good driving game, like even now like Project Cars is by far the best driving game available on that platform, Like it just blows Drive Club out of the water. But the fact that they did that and then haven't been held the cantable for it to this day is atrocious. And even you know, yeah, regardless of quality of the game, something that they said that would happen and then they didn't make it

happen. But I have a hard time imagining there are a lot of people out there still just you know, ripping the arms of their chairs going where is Drive Clubs? Plus I don't know any of those people, but they should still do something. I like your ideas, but just put the whole thing out that works, try and make this good. Yep uh, next email, come on, phone, let's do it. Phone. Here we go. Stephen from Lincoln, Nebraska, I think that God might be two

weeks in a row for Stephen. Here is Stephen. Well, it's so it's spelled Stephen, but in parentheses. He writes it out in a way that would be pronounced Stephen. So okay, I'm going with that. He's sweet. Maybe that's his last name. He's Stephen Stephen in parentheses. Yeah, okay, I'll be a rough deal. Asshole. Parents, pull that one off. Could you legally put parentheses in your name? Ill bet you good you find out, okay, Dan parentheses record. I'll go make a

kid and I'll see if I can name make okay great? Yeah, I get on. That sounds like Craft really thought this plan through. Uh, he says, if life finds awake Ken Giant Bomb, I believe we have kind of a kind of a hypothetical here. Let's say Jurassic Park is real and it's going to open up like the movies and books show. It's a full fledged island resort slash theme park chock full of dinosaurs. Each one of you gets an invite to stay in an all inclusive vacation on the opening weekend.

It sounds great. Let's say this would be the only feasible way that you'd ever be able to visit the park because of this place did exist. Tickets would cost a mint. Let's say they cost about two thousand dollars per day. There's a lot of security, food costs for the dino's crazy super scientists on the payroll in general loan debts to pay off. Would you go

to Jurassic Park and see living, breathing dinosaurs for free? There is a possibility that the dinos could break out and terrorize the park goers, like how roller coasters gonna have safety failures and crash exactly. And the reason why I stressed that it's opening weekend would be so you couldn't wait and see how safe the park is. You have to chance it. Absolutely yeah, And that last actually I had to make a similar didn't involve dinosaurs. We're talking about

being like a guinea pig for something. I got an email this morning from a lasic place being like, hey, we got a new laser. Remember how we said you you weren't a medical candidate before since you already had lasic, Well, hey we got a new laser, so you can do it. And it's like the brand new laser, and so like I know that It's kind of like the first run risk guinea pick thing. But I was like, yeah, I can save money, Like I from down, I

got cheaper lasers by haggling. This was from initially from a fucking group on. Yeah, but I handled them down. Why the hell, why the hell you watch? I'm gonna have laser shot in my eyes next Saturday, and I'm gonna come back. You won't need a fucking fruit, but you're gonna have them shoot experimental lasers'll come all down the bobs just count on lasers. I'll shoot them in there real good. You'll be seeing all this. There wasps in the laser. I can't go on even laser does the wash

shooting the laser and stinger? Have you ever been been by a wasp? Are the boss is making you shoot this laser in my eye? Ah? But the point of that story is, yes, I'm not afraid of being uh you know, taking a risk if I'm getting a cheaper deal. So

yeah, I would one. I'd be the Alan granted that situation. This is like the one thing they're going to do if they make a real Drassic Park is make sure that the dinosaurs is that they will air so far on the side of caution that it's probably like twenty inch plex a glass between you and it's like, I think we can all agree that the films have been quite instructive in this regard. We know what not to do, no frog DNA. Al right, God damn it. Life will not find a way.

I would say, even if even if it was better than even odds that I was going to die on the island, what a way to go Yeah, yeah, getting eaten by yeah, the Titanic, pretty good way to go out. I guess my dinosaur is better than going down with the titan I mean as long as like they eat your head first and not the other end. Like so, yeah, it's like the toilet whatever, it's the toilet lawyer from the first one. It's just you want to go like that. Yes, it's just one big chomp. Yeah, just get it

over with. Maybe not be on the toilet, maybe be doing something cooler. But yeah, imagine the stories you leave your grandkids. It's like, oh, my dad fought in World War three. Yeah, my dad got eaten by fucking torontosaurus. Rex H. K. Park uh Evan from New York has a question that's somewhat directed to Jeff. But whatever, I'll take it. Jeff's not here. I mean, wait, I'm sorry, Jeff's totally here. So Jeff, uh, FMV, that's what this femail is

about. Don's for full motion video? It does? Man, you really do know everything about games. It's been around. I'm more gammers go to know. I can't do a Jeff voice himsel that's super distinct. No, I don't know how you know it's not. He's well spoken. You guys, Jeff especially, all seemed to covet FMV in games. I have a stupid question, what's so good about FMV? Why is it better than not FMV? I've never heard the reasoning stated explicitly. Also, please note that

Jason's reactions to Dan are by far the most entertaining. I really think he is channeling Ryan when he is chastising Dan for not knowing something. I feel him speaking through me. That's kind of looks like it's just only the like the barely contained annoyance that you can only hone after years and years. Do you think can be used to bubbling? Putting up with somebody's constantly just bubbling?

Just you invite me to your house to beat you more. Don't know why that he yes, I invite you to beat me at mortal time. I did, I should just you should ban uh kung gin? Yeah totally. You love me beat you a mortal kabat. Then you offer to sell me a discount of scooter. Yeah yeah, I was hoping upon none off so I could feel better about myself. That's the only way that I keep myself. Jason's House fun. You gave me a rum chatta. That was good. Really, it's super good. I never had really dirty in the

way that you said it. It's some crazy thing in a little white bottle and it gets you drunk. But it's keep tastes real good. Let's let's call it like, you know, spiced eggnog. Okay, And I never tried eggnog, so like now I want to try eggnog because that was pretty good. Wasps in that I can't say that about everything. Are there washed in the witchery in Mexico? There are actually I'm going to Mexico on Friday. There are actually a shitload of bees nests in the witcher that are real

painting the air. Okay, I'm at like inside the game case. I just want to make sure. I wasn't opening it up. Bees we're gonna fly out? Okay, probably not. I mean I don't have a box. I can't say either way. Take your chances. If you buy a copy of the Witcher, there might be wasps in there. Uh. I think a lot of the reverence for FMV is a mix of nostalgia and just like the possibility for stupidity that FMV allows. You know, I failed to recall any like good FMV. Yes, but there were a lot of like

sneer quote good FMV games I don't know and w f rage. In the cage for Sega CD at the characterist like screen, you could press a button and see like a super compressed FMV of like the razors ed or the jack Knife power bomb or whatever. Oh that's Sega CDF was so bad. Yeah, I love so bad. But if we were signed blowing. I played a lot of Super Shark myself. I watched the intro Tocenic CD countless times. Is that video? Yeah it's video? Wait it's not. Yeah,

I mean it's like one eighth of the screen. Yeah, it is animated. Sherlock Holmes consulting detective anybody early FMV classic, I said, oh god, you remember the Three Do had a bunch of like like, yeah, it was a dancer. Yeah, they end up fighting game and stuff, but they had like weird like plumbers don't wear time like that, like adult only video games that were all FMV. You might you might be able to find some streams of such dancers, such fine classics on fairy website. Do

you remember the name of the Sega CD fighting game. It was kind of like a Mortal Combat rip Fall. Are you thinking champions Eternal Championship? Yeah, are you thinking of maybe it wouldn't seke a CD, but way of the Warrior, I might be thinking away to digitized fighters. It was probably way was to have a try yin Yang where it was one of them had the black, the white and bloody. Yeah, that's where the Warrior. Yeah, I remember seeing it in a magazine before I had dot com.

Was it nat Sega CD? It was a three Jaguar, wasn't what way the Warriors three? That Naughty Dogs first game? Wow? Really, Jesus had mighty have fallen. That's very great back when Naughty Dog was like just like what three people or something? That's h Yeah. Ruben did alt like digitized actors, like a green screen in his dorm room or something. Yes, there's a there's like a Oh, I'm trying to think, who's the

other main Naughty Dog guy, Andy Gavin. I think as god, he's got like pages and pages of like ancient Naughty Dog history documented out there if you if you google for it, like just all kinds of stuff about the early days of that developer when they were just a few people. Have you ever seen the original at Jordan Mechner VHS tapes of the rotoscoping from Pressure one.

Oh, it's so good. It's it's his brother just like jumping around in a robe in his back garden, and that's where they took all the animation. It's pretty freaky when you watch it. It's really good. Here's my first knowledge of Naughty Dog as a company. When I was like twelve years old. I saw a code in like EGM two or something, and it was it was for a game called Rings of Power on the Genesis and they said, like, oh, when the Naughty Dog logo comes in,

And that's the first time I've ever even heard of the studio. You could type in some code on Genesis and the dog logo would turn into a naked lady. I remember, at twelve years old thinking I want to spend sixty dollars on this Genesis game just so I could have like a hidden the sneaky way to see a naked lady without my parents knowing. Oh, I wish you had At the beginning of my history with that company, nice, I wish you had the FMV For examples, I could see I had second CD.

I never had Jaguar three DIO, so like Sewer Star Jaguars in the Cage. I don't forget Jaguar was initially a console system. They had the CD add on right right right, Yeah, I remember those commercials saying like sixty four bit and wouldn't like there's thirty two on the console and thirty two in the car trade together that it was marketing. Yeah, with that shitty

controller. Remember night Trap, Yeah that was pretty good or dumb. There were some boxing game on CDI that I played a little bit that was all FMV and it just fucking sucked. You wanted to love the idea of it because it was just like, oh, this is like real, like this is the dream, like this this is a real images here, right, But then I always played like turned off that nobody had to know how we're the production shops or the budget or anything to do proper video production. Yeah,

with real activisms stuff. I look back at it finally, Yeah, real weird time like you kind of Yeah, you have to wonder in this day and age if if, like if use of FMV now can be anything other than a love letter to what it was, then, you know, like, can anybody actually like take the form to a more revolved and kind of more respectable level. I don't know. I don't know, and why would you? And you can do things in animation can do back then?

You know you're probably right, Eline Noir, You're probably right. Uh sutanu, I believe is how you say this guy's name writes down about VR on consoles? Okay, you guys are into VR right, yes, dans very much. With the recent reveal that The Rift is going to require a G four's nine eighty to run, well, I think they said the nine seventy is kind of the minimum. She's a card for that, which is kind of crazy. I started wondering if that's the case, what's a PS four

going to do with Morpheus? Obviously? Stuff on the PS four will be of a significantly lower quality, which brings up my question, do you guys think the VR on consoles needs to succeed for VR to catch on? Period? If the Morpheus is only capable of low fidelity mini games, will the general public reject it? And if so, will Dev's bother to make better stuff for the Rift or vive? Basically, is the success of Morpheus the

biggest key to VR, more so than Rift or five. Oh, then at the end you can call me stand rather than trying to pronounce my name. I think calling a low quality mini games is kind of selling it short.

And I talked a little bit about this on UPF But like I played a lot of Half Life two with an old Oculus devkate just for fun because I thought it was incredible, Like that's a game that, you know, the graphics are over ten years old at this point, and it was still like some of the most like striking memories of my recent you know, gaming experiences. It's incredible in VR, and obviously the PS four specs if it's not going to be as powerful as PC obviously, but it's gonna be a

lot better in Half Life two and Half Life two is fucking awesome. So yeah, to say that it's just going to be capable of like you know, shitty mini games or whatever, that, Yeah, that's selling it short. This guy. This guy sounds like he's envisioning kind of the worst case area of like the what the connect was? You know, connect was nothing, but you know, and that's sort of the template for add ons on consoles at this point. Do we know the specs of the Oculus, Like

what the size, like what resolutions? It's uh, I think I'd have to look it up, but it's uh. I think it's like I think it's ten eighty by twelve hundred for each eye, Okay, and then we have that twenty one sixty by twelve hundred. I think, uh, bigger than it needs to be. I don't know if the Morpheus will know. I mean, I think oculus kind of what Oculus has been focusing on.

It's like, what what resolution do we need to hit to kind of get rid of the screen doors stuff, the aliasing because the screens are an inch from your eye, Like what kind of refresh rate do we need to avoid motion sickness? Like all that stuff has been kind of a core pursuit I think it's not just a numbers games like we're gonna have the biggest resolution ever. No, No, it's definitely. I think it's it's right now, it's such early days. It's very much like what what's the minimum for this

to be a good experience? You know, by the time this stuff actually starts getting in the hands of folks who aren't like super super enthusiasts, like the graft Scarred will be in a much more acceptable like price. Right. We like we are years from this breaking into any sort of mainstream, Like

I mean we're a year from it even coming out. Yeah, and it's never going to like to a certain degree, I don't think it's ever going to reach like mainstream if people are looking for any success like what happened with like the Wei or like three DS is like it's never going to the buying is too high, like on console as the buying is four hundred dollars then a game and then the morphia is most consoles, Yeah, on PC it's like more it's like a thousand or whatever, like more one and a half

ground or like one ground, Like it's it's never going to get to that stage. It's yeah, as far as like sales initially, but I think it's going to have you know, much longer relevancy, where like the Wi was you know, essentially a fad, whereas I think VR is going to be around to stay. You know, it might not have this crazy peak like right when it comes out of like crazy sales like the Wei was. But I bet VR is gonna be a thing in ten or fifteen years,

and you know, we controls really aren't. I think v VR will be a thing in ten or fifteen years, whether or not we're playing it via a console or via a p see is like different in terms of like with the Wei, everyone thought that motion controls would be a thing in the future, and they still are. They're just not what they were when the Wei was a thing. They're not emphasized anymore, you know, and they're like

they're they're part of a wider thing than not the focus anymore. I mean, I don't I don't think, you know, virs applicability to kind of everyday living is in dispute. You know, like look at all the you know, sporting events, movies, like conferencing, like art like who knows what kind of stuff like what other applications like come up with besides video games.

But I'm sorry what I can't quite hear you. But even so, like once this gets stuff gets thrown out into the mainstream, Like think of like do we really want to sit down and wear a screen on our heads when we're watching movies, like the social aspect of that, the social aste they're watching sport, the like, there's so many unknowns that we're sort of like we're willing it into into fashion that we don't really know of. Like in many ways, like when I was playing while it's on, there wasn't

anything stopping me from believing that I was in this world. And like also actually like seeing Gerrolds gave me like a place within this world that I'm controlling him within. So like there are so many functional things about VR which don't work the way we consume media that there are just so many questions to answer.

Yeah, and the fact that we get hung up on the technical stuff I always think is really worrying because the reason why like the we are, the reason why like fads happen is because within games certainly is because the software never catches up with the idea that the harder was trying to push forward, Like for VR to be a success reg godless of any of these platforms, they need to make a fucking game that is only play, like the best

ever experience is on like Whearing when of these goofy headsets. I have to I have to assume the Morphia stuff is going to be stuff designed specifically for

that thing. Like it's hard to it's hard to imagine, like, oh, fall Out four is going to have Morphia support because they'd have to go but they'd have to scale it down in so many ways to make it work on that thing, because those consoles are already like straining under the load of current games, right, Like what would they have to sacrifice to then make it work on two screens and like you know, you'd remove a bunch of detail to get the frame rate up or whatever. Like it seems like Morphia

stuff in particular is gonna be stuff made for morpheas. You know existing games you guys use Morpheous yet no, No. I did at GDC. It was pretty cool. It was very the resolution wise, it was great, very enclosed areas, and I had two move controllers in my hands and I did that demo you see where you you're like hiding behind the desk and shooting. It was like the one of the coolest things I've ever really in virtual reality. The only problem was the thing was it's cabled. It's not actually

wireless, which means it's actually very light on your head as well. But like I was straight up like with the two triggers on the move controller, you like you get transported behind a desk and you can't really move much around the desk because you're like in the real world. And then guys come into this room and you're like frantically like using the triggers in your hands to like open up drawers to try and find a gun, and then you find a

gun. Then you find a clip, and you're like in the real world. You're like moving your two move controllers together to put the clip on the gun, and then you're like at one stage, I dove on the ground and like fired across like over the top of the thing. Yeah, and that was really cool. But then you think you got move from behind a desk because on you're holding is two buttons. Right, what does this mean? Right? The software the software problems for these things are pretty pretty big.

A lot of problems to solve, but their interesting problems. Yeah, sure, which could take us to a pretty interesting place. Let's hope the future. It's gonna be weird AD three with all this stuff, Like how do you show off of VR headset demo on a press conference the stage? Kind of don't like you guys have a heavy show it off on live stream? Yeah, like yeah, god forbid. Yeah, once we get to the point where we have to cover the stuff, what are we gonna do

with it? Like the footage out of that stuff doesn't really play very well in a two D setting, so we shall see. Yeah, that story, Danny. I apologize. I tweeted a few minutes ago that you were coming on the show, oh Man, for people to send any questions they had for you. I've already talked too much on this one. Uh So here's an email subject line ayo Danny. Okay, this person says, don't include my name on the podcast. My life depends on it. What what?

Who the fuck said? I'll just read the email? Was this, Hey, Danny, do you know if there have ever been any video games about the North Ireland troubles. She thinks that with the multitude of films plays songs, books, and other pieces of art that exists covering the violence. The video games would eventually also make its mark on the cultural discussion, or was Roger Ebert Wright, Thanks Brov. As far as I know, there

hasn't been. I guess that's probably a culbination of the sort of the height of the troubles was before, like the sort of like politicide, the political like involvement in video games or like what we're seeing with people like making games which make political comments on very specific like events, political events is very much a like early two thousands phenomenon. This was not something that was going on

in the eighties and suddenly in the nineties or whatever. So like you know, this was back in the day where games like games that were called Grand Theft Auto were thought to be trivializing, you know, crimes like Mister Minor Car like non violent crimes on all so violent crimes, I guess by extension. But so, like you know, there wasn't any then He's right.

There are some great movies like this Bloody Sunday is a wonderful movie if if you've ever got to watch that, or there's been lots of music written about as well. And whatnot, and literature for sure, but no, never was I like that stuff that I like. I like this War of Mine, and there were some interesting games coming out of I was talking to some

Spiky Snail, the guys who made the Splatters. They're based in Israel, and they were telling us about some like Israeli developers that were creating stuff.

I think actually, I think his game before he made the two guys who made that game, the Splatters, which I really liked on Xbox sixty before and he made a game that was sort of about the Palestinian Club or might it might have been at the Gaza Strip actually, So yeah, like obviously that stuff has been done before, but no, it's far to my knowledge, there has not been one done about the Troubles. Yeah, yeah,

you're you're right. In the games feel like they're just now sort of growing up and getting the point where they can comment and even respectfully on stuff like this. Yeah, and even so some people aren't ready for that, you know as well. It's it's we're still in the nascey and sort of days of doing that. You're right, although you know, thankfully the kind of the distribution platforms are there now for that stuff to get out there, even

if there is a small audience for it, and so on. Uh, man, I pulled a lot of Danny emails here, Jesus, it's a guy from Belfast. Great that Alan from Belfast. That's that's in Ireland. Kind does it to give him license to keep picking your brain? Sure? Fellow countryman, I guys was wondering if Danny has been following the gay marriage referendum back. Oh, Jesus, yeah, I don't think I need to

ask which side of the debates on. But he wondered how he felt as Ireland looks likely to become the first country to bring in gay marriage via referendum. Yeah, we're mad on referendums in Irelands. Yeah, that we've we've stop any straight up will of the people. Yeah, but we've messed up once before. The abortion abortions still aren't legal in any Ireland Ireland. In Ireland, no, no, no, So you still love still of young girls having to take trips to England to if they so choose to do that.

So like, and there was a bad case last year about a woman who because of they couldn't medically intervene on her because it would have broken the legislation. But yeah, she said that was that was a catastrophe. She wasn't even ire she was I think she was Indian or Pakistani. Yeah, so it looks like the Volks should win us hopefully, but you can never tell. But yeah, I think it'll be cool. I'll be proud of

that. Ireland's a country which is very has changed a lot in the thirty years I have been on this planet, and I think this would this would be really yeah, prideful moment. I think form back home. I have a lot of gay friends back in Ireland, and I have a lot of gay friends who have left Ireland as well, and all very sort of happy about this, and it looks like it looks like it will be put through.

Ireland's is a wonderfully liberal country and like forward thinking country, but it's also a country which is you know, has not fully gotten rid of the shackles that the Catholic Church had on like on institutions like I've no problem with with the Thals and running just on actual government institutions. It was there when Ireland was born, you know, it was the biggest, the biggest society in the country. When when Ireland was made a contr less than a hundred.

Ye, so yeah, I think this will be a real positive change. It's so by, it's on Wednesday, so it'll beat the day of things goes on. So fingers crossed. I don't think anyone's kinding chickens, but hopefully it'll be a nice day and then all everyone, everyone will be entitled to get married in Ireland. Excellent. All right, well this this concludes your Irish minute. Cool. Thanks, Sorry, I think I've already talked too much on this. No no, no, absolute, switch your

stuff. I mean I hope here to talk. Yeah, what we do on here's what we brought you for? Man? Uh first E three, says Chris. Uh. He just wants to know what was going through our heads during each of our first respective e threes. I went on my own through. Yeah, I had a podcast that I was doing, and yeah, we just applied for you know, press passes. We're like, okay, Christ, what do we do now? So yeah, we bought a bunch of cameras and stuff and just yeah, I wandered around the show floor,

had no freaking appointment. So we would just you know, walk up the desk and say hey, you guys have an opening, they're like, oh, who are you? But yeah, sometimes we'd get in, sometimes we didn't, so yeah, we would just Yeah, we worked our asses off. And I remember trying to upload videos to our website on a three G connection at Hotel and Child. So this was not that long ago there, No, that's see terribly longer. Yeah, like five years ago or

something like that. So yeah, that was that was my first tea three. That was a oh wow, that was. What year was the experience? I want to say, like five years ago. I forgot what year it was. I suppose if I just took five years away from the time it is, Yeah, that worked, we could probably don't worry about it.

But mine was nine years ago. And yea, I did the same thing where there were four years in a row where I just kind of paid my own way out there and went by myself, where like I don't know when you're not going with a you know, a place in the industry, you know, you you don't exactly know how to do that, Like you don't know where the parties are, you don't know like how like I didn't even think to set up appointments half the time, like I would do it

with a couple of the like pr contacts I had through the reviews I was doing, but mainly just like walking around the show floor and just kind of taking it all in. And oh six is my first one, and that was the year there was the first time like you could play if he has three and three sixty And I think I think we was there too, previlease because I remember like Metrid Prime and Mario Galaxy were there, and it just the idea of playing this stuff before it came out was just such a novelty.

Still, like now it's old hat for any of us, for sure, but like I still remember that, like, holy shit, like this constantly. It isn't even out yet, I can do this motion control thing and go home and tell everyone how crazy this we thing is gonna be. And yeah, it was awesome. But it's also surprising how easy it is to get into for something that's technically supposed to be like industry. You know, people, I have no concept now it's been so long for me.

Yeah, I guess my last example trying to kind of get someone in was like probably oh eight, and I was crashing my friend Mike's couch to save money and like he does not know anything about video games. But I remember just like going up to the Badge place and be like, yeah, he's my photographer for you know, Lawrence, Kansas newspaper and they're all right,

there we go. They're just like let him in. Just no promise officially there on newspaper business though, you were not like fudging that part, right, No, no, no, I was always like actually, you know, writing for the newspaper and stuff like, I didn't have to fudge anything to get myself in. But like crashing at Mike's place, I'll try to get him into eagree on some bullshit. Super easy to do. That was also the year I did that big prank on John Drake without knowing it.

Yes, but we'll get to that. Still we still have yet to fully we need to get him in here before we Yeah, yeah, I still fully explore that topic. I do want to hear his side. Don't want to hear that. Yeah, it's something I've never heard the whole thing myself. I don't want to be in the room and that. I love John Drakes great, and you had to put out a lot of fires that way. It could be a good knockdown drag out on that one found of things

they Yeah, they'd straight up like oscar idn now like photo idea. Really yeah. So I mean, let's say you just wrote for some you know, a little bullshit blog or whatever that you know, it's like, you know, ten or fifteen readers a month or something. Is that enough? Like if you have enough published stuff? Yeah, I don't know. Can you show that to them and like, oh, look I've done this many reviews or whatever. I don't know. I don't know. There there was

one year that I had to mix up when we were at GI. They didn't get my registration oh every reason, so they had it under something else. But she was just like, well, okay, do you have any buy lines on the game before her website? And I'm like, here, you guy, it's a review and oh really okay that was that was all that I needed. But that's a much bigger publication. Yes, yeah, So yeah, I wonder how it works if like, let's say you're a YouTuber, like you know, I haven't seen what that's like. Yeah,

I've taken a certain amount of subscribers. I have no idea how the ESA is handling that stuff. Yeah, Like if there's a threshold for that, Yeah, exactly, Like scribers probably seems like the most obvious metric for like, if you're ever this number, you can get in or whatever. Right, it's crazy, I don't know. Yeah, my first E three was the ninety seven, the first Atlanta once damn. Oh, I mean, I'll forever be bitter. It just been all of them. I will forever

be bitter that I've missed the first two in LA. But I was just too young at that point. Yeah, when I went to the ninety seventy three, I was just shy of eighteen, so I was not like it was supposed to be eighteen and up. Wow, I had a free pass from the guy I knew on IRC. That's the only reason I went was

I talked to a bunch of people on IRC and quake net. One of them said, Hey, if you come to Atlanta in a couple of days, I'll have any three pass four years And I said, okay, I was eighteen, drove down seventeen seventeen, yeah, and stayed in a pretty rough part of Atlanta, and but took a bus like forty five minutes to get to the show. But also the lady I bawled me real good when she gave me the past and said, are you sure you're eighteen? And

I was like, yeah, you're sure you're eighteen Jesus. But I very distinctly remember. I mean, this guy just says what was going through your head? Like it was an escalator was either up or down into the convention hall. I can't remember which, but I very vividly remember just the wall of like light and sound that watches over you when you first walk into that thing, you know, Like I like I remember the moment and thinking like I don't ever not want to be part of this, like this is just

my home, you know, I've made it. That also makes it like one of the worst places on the planet to be hungover. Yeah, that's

that's first year. Like I remember people telling them about like the parties and like all the things you do. The first year I went to E three was only three years ago, I think, And that's after like some I'm my ten year registration on game spots coming up in August, so I watched all you guys doing it since like oh five or whatever like you that the year it was on the SNA Monica when Rich was on that weird little restaurant to like every single year, I'd stay up and like until like dumb o'clock

and nighttime in Ireland, like on watching these streams. So the first year I did it, i was hosting the stage show for Game Spot. I'm like all I did was research at home in the hotel, just constantly like everyone who was up on the show for the next day. It was like work, work, work. I never got to the South Hall. I barely walked around the West Hall at all because I was on the stage so much. And when I wasn't, I was just like, you fucking wanted

this. Make sure you don't mess it up now, don't get the guy's name wrong. Sure. Yeah, it's like it's so busy. Yeah, I've never had that hungover Ady three experience either, because we were just working our asses off so much that like any my first year, any free time you had, you were going to sleep because you were getting like four or

five hours a night. And it's just like my first year like because it because I wrote just like a general like Lawrence, Kansas newspaper, so like they expected like a four paragraph thing like here's what the three is like, So I had no deadlines or anything. But I also didn't know when the parties were. But that first E three I spent the night in Jimmy Kemmel's green room and they had an open bar back there, and I just got

wasted with Kemmel's band and yeah, like ridiculously wasted. And then the next day of the show, Fos been like, oh, I need to not be the ungoverady three ever again. Yeah, I will say the ninety eight the year that we went to the Big Sony always used to have their ridiculous parties, and I snuck into that thing and the food Fighters played, and then we went across town to where the Sega Party was happening at a little

tiny club, and the food Fighters were playing there too. They'd apparently gone across town and just like decided to play the Sega Party for free wow in a club. So saw them twice in one night. It was kind of

ridiculous. It's in terms of meeting famous people we've I was talking to Jeff about because he came on the Lobby couple of weeks ago, and we were talking about Tony Hawk post kid five and like, man, somebody should make like the like the documentary about like the two thousand and one, like when THHPS two came out and like have like skateboarding became big again and like all that music was crazy and like sek why he was taking over MTV and Jackass

and all that shit. So this year we've secured an hour with the Birdman to like interview him. She'll st off the show floor and I'm not going to interview a bunch of bands and skaters. And while we're in LA I've never try and make that like this is that moment in time, That's cool, that's that game man. That game was like a culture of getting people to skateboard. Absolutely, I've never heard him referred to as the bird band Man. Wouldn't be Larry Bird nope, or that movie that came out and

won all the Oscars. Oh yeah, nope. I remember being furious that year that The Who were playing, And again like this is before I worked in the industry, and so I just didn't have any knowledge of the parties. And We're getting there and talking to friends on the show flour being like, oh, you go to that Who concert tonight? I was like what. I was like, Oh, yeah, The Who is playing this fucking

like rock band party. I was like, the who like Townsend, They're gonna fucking play a three party and just feverishly trying to figure out how to get into that thing, and I couldn't. Oh you make Oh no, I'm still mad about that. Hey, there's like a Queens of the Stone

Age party. One of those seas the only party have been too is the game spot after party, which is in some fucking trashy bar on the side of time, which is like, it has a ping pong table that's so broken, you're gonna need to like beer pong after you make it three three, just like slumping in a trashy bar is about all your capable of, uh e three. It'll be all right, I guess I'm excited for this the best. Yeah yeah, bar Man news wise, Yeah, like,

I hope a lot of cool stuff comes out of it. And previously, like I would bust my ass trying to get to all the conferences because I was like the soul video guy trying to take care of those things. I've got a half hour window to get from here to there and set up a stream, and shit, I don't have to do that. Oh You're gonna be so happy on that Monday. You don't understand, no, no,

no, I know. Last year was the first time we did it, and we like the whole time we were going into it going like like second guessing ourselves constantly, like we go to the conferences, we should go right, like this is crazy not to go. But by the end of that day, it was just like because, yeah, that thing is just like

a twelve hour marathon of run from one one auditorium to another. Jason, I've seen you on those days when we're doing that with game in four just you just look like you needed to change smoke for like four hours after those days, see you guys like you know, the night before and then you know, everyone's like, oh, I'm gonna go, gonna check this out. I'll watch the conference from the hotel, and I'm like, I'm not

going to see you for two days? Is that entire day I'm running around so like yeah, like early in the morning and then well after nine o'clock at night. Fuck that. Wow, I can't do it anymore and I don't have to. That's great. Get ready to hang out in an air conditioned conference room for twelve hours. I guess I'm driving them with Jeff as well this year for the mixler. Oh yeah, experience the live drive. Yeah, nexcellent stop off at Del Taco, hit that hit, that stretch

of I five where it smells like calpoof there's a signal it's bad. It's a good drive though, all right. Next email comes from Leam Liam in London wants to know about biscuits and gravy. Just waiting for Danny's English accent again here we go. I should let him read this email. Liam says, as a brit who listened to last week's podcast who the hell puts gravy on biscuits? As a brit who looked up what Americans mean my biscuit on Wikipedia? Who the hell puts gravy on a scone? Yeah? So biscuit

means cookie in the UK's yes. Oh but also why the fuck? Yeah? I I thought that was weird as well when I first moved here. Yeah, yeah, it was like also like you put you put like you put like bacon on pancakes and shat. I was like, what's wrong with you? That's still kind of a weird thing. That's great's bad? And then yeah, I don't knock until you try it is on that to say

to that person, because I thought the same thing. I was, Like, a scan is like or scone is like a kind of a posh little cheecake, right, you put like jam and butter on it and fucking knosh it down, whereas putting like gravy is like the dredge of like meat, fat and like and like tasty bits kind of chalk and cheese to get it, you know, and cheese. Yeah what what? Yeah? You know belt and braces? Oh yeah, oh yeah, I know that right.

Yeah, of course have you had checking waffles? So it's not just chicken and waffles. It's yeah, it's chicken and waffles. No, it's tofu and fucking sesame seeds. What do you think do you do anything with them? No? Okay, you just eat some fry channing and have some waffles. Dan, I'm taking it to Roscoe's any three. This okay, Roscoe's is pretty good, really good. It should go to Rosco's. Yeah, I'm taking it to Rosco's. Chicken and waffles. We're making that app all

right. It's my birthday on the Tuesday eight three birthday. Chicken and waffles. That sounds great. Yeah. Wait, that's when those conferences on oh shit. Also, I'm thinking I might be injuring Tony Hawks. Oh can he come? Yeah? Tell him it's my birthday. I guess he has met once and everyone. I mean, I know, you know, I know, biscuits, scones, blah blah blah whatever. But does does the American concept of a biscuit even exists in England? I assume it doesn't.

Like the kind of the fluffy butter milk like lard filled. It's basically just a scone. Yeah, I guess, like a slightly bigger scone. Yeah, Okay, scones are really dry though, aren't they deifically? Yeah? You're actually there's a bit more. A good, proper greasy biscuit is not dry, is the last thing that is? Yeah, you couldn't eat a scone. Eating a scone would be like eating like like a half a loaf of bread. You can just put jelly on scone, put it on jam.

Oh damn, sorry, you bring the half a loaf of bread thing. Today? I tried a thing where I made a peanut butter sandwich for lunch. But I made it a triple decker. Wow, made a piece of bread? Should load a peanut butter Another piece of bread, peanut butter, piece of bread. How's your saliva? Do it? Just? Yeah, it just seems like there's a lot more bread at the end of the day. It seems like kind of a boring lunch. I mean, it did the trick man. Then then you told me there were free hot dogs

in the kitchen free. There were like twenty hot dogs just sitting in the kitchen because I had one, but I wasn't sure I made that hot dogs. So fine, I'm pretty sure it's a universal law of corporate culture that the food is left out in the common kitchen area. Yeah, it's up for grabs at least, I hope, so for your sake. Yeah, hot dog police are gonna come track again. Jesus h Adam sends on the next email about Cojima. Yeah, of the hedo of right, I played

PET over the weekend. Me and Alexis completed it. Oh yeah, so I saw like a shot on a forum or somewhere floating around. If you guys playing PT in broad daylight, it was I was looking at the probably have the same effect the camera's overexposed. It was actually dark in the room. Yeah, thank you. By the way, it's everyone who watched, because there's a bunch of Giant Bomb users who were in there as well. We raised over twenty and seventy dollars for Nice Operation supply drop, So thanks

for watching. Okat's fun. It's real dumb. We shouted, the ghost of Videocajima compels you into it completed. Yeah, did you finish it? Yeah, we completed it. Did you use a guide? I've never finished it, but people always said, you know, like without looking up yeah, solutions, it's inscrutable. He to walk forward ten times, stop not touch editing while the baby screams, then rubbed the PlayStation four controller and shout some fucking dude's name in wait and that it's where it got. It's too

trying to figure out if this is hyperpole. Can you imagine us reading the Twins shot and saying, okay, which one of you is bullshitting because he's all sound dumb. It's all leg and I worked what Yeah you can Yeah, yeah we did. We did the same during Extra Life. Man, Okay, I can see what they thought. It would take people weeks to figure that out, and not like a one night or whatever it was. Anyway, Adam asks with Inafune and now Igarashi you doing legacy games through Kickstarter

after leaving their long time employers. Should we expect to see Ben Judd hanging out with Kojima anytime soon? Uh? And if Kojima worked to do a Kickstarter, would anyone want it to just to be strategic reconnaissance conflict or to

people want something completely different from him? I would want something completely different because, you know, the appeal of metal ear to me is like these characters that you've just known for so long and you've spent so much time watching their heads talk to each other on a green screen, you know, Like I if he just made some new obvious metal gear thing with some new badass protagonists or whatever, like, I wouldn't feel that connection the way I feel with

like Snake, like another knockoff Stealth. Yeah, so I would want him to do some batshit Kajima thing like like bak Tie, you know, like, oh, you gotta take your game boy out and olar panels and shit. Like. He has crazy ass ideas that aren't confined within the middle of year world, and I'd like to him to have agency to do whatever he want. Surely he is sitting on the Treasure Trove. Oh yeah, of ideas over the last god, what is it fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years

since what since Solid ninety eight? Yeah, but what he needs is a lot of money in his massive studio that's making vision. That's the rub Like, He's not gonna get that from Kickstarter. He would have a pretty successful Kickstarter though, Yeah, but not wed his video would be. But imagine how weird that pitch video would be. Yeah, I guess so. But I mean we're talking tens of millions if people are getting pissed off at double

fine with the amount of transparency to Tim Shafer and that team. I've had over what happened with Broken Age, like grinds that it was late. Can you imagine fucking Hideo God Like, it seems like every Mentleager game has been delayed and changed and a budget and at the end of the day, he always does the right I mean, they're always good. Yeah. I have the utmost faith in mister Kajima. Whatever he wants to do, I'm on

board. I think Activision eas gonna be pick him up. Yeah, that's I think that's it, or Microsoft or like he doesn't go down the road of I was thinking that that was that would be a huge kid for like a Microsoft or somebody like that. Yeah, and to like it's you know, it's a little dodgy financially, but just to basically write that guy a blank check and say like, all right, come come hang out under our umbrella and make whatever you want to make here you go like that's that would

be a huge, huge get. I'm not sure if like first party exclusive is still a thing that they're trying to do, but they are. That's the big one right there. For sure, getting more, I'm sure he won't have any trouble figuring out something to do, finding somebody to fund his games. He'll probably pay the bills, or maybe he'll just go make movies. Who knows, uh, Danny Elide, there's one more email. It's not quite as a it's not quite as heavy and dire as the other two

though. There's a Prime Minister of Ireland that we have a T shocked. You have a T? What a T shocked like instead of a prime minister or president? Or can you have a shocked? Yeah it's Irish for prime minister shocks. That's a kind of shoe or something. Yeah, what huh? You know there's different languages in the world. Right, Oh, okay, so that's just a picture like T hyphen shot. It's like Tao. Okay, God damn it. Yeah, it's like a T shot. You

put it on. You're wearing a T shocked right now, right? Yeah, this comes from Walter. It's up Walter, Walter says, Dear Danny. Ever since you're overnight stream with Ian and Alexis, HAVE been a big fan of your work on the site, and I think The Point is one of the best produced series and gaming at the moment. As someone who has also worked in a country foreign to his own, I know how difficult the

process can be. And I had a question about the challenges you faced going first from Ireland to London then further over to the US when looking to get the kiddo of the job at Game Spot US. Did you need to apply? So I got my path. I'll say I've said this a bunch of times on different things. I'll keep this super truncated. My path to getting it, Like, I want you to work in this office for this company.

My path to doing so was very deliberately. I moved to London to get a job at GameSpot UK, so that I get hopefully I'd seen basically people like Justin Calvert make the transition from the UK office to the US, and visas are fucking hard to come by. Like if if you want to like get a job in an industry in the States, you need to be either incredibly good, like so specifically amazingly good at what you do in a weird industry, or you need to like work in finance or something where they

could basically fudge the books and get you somewhere for a while. So like I wanted to work here, so like that was my thing, was that if I'm on a visa, which if I worked for twelve months in the UK, I was able to come to GameSpot US. So that was like I went over to London, I got I was working web development, and I was leaving London, and then like an eleventh hour like phone call, I was just about to move to the Middle East, and I got it.

I got an offer from games by UK saying come on in, and then from there the good people in the Games by US and UK got me over here. When when my shows were doing good, so much easier to justify. Yeah, it's once you're already part of the company exactly. It's it's legally like there were still significant bullshit visa stuff to do, but it worked out in the end. It's a very cold, calculated plan that you hatched. Yeah, when when it worked out, actually felt like, where

are you idiot? You put all your eggs in one basket and you were very lucky that the basket ended up working out, actually worked. Yeah, So I'm very very grateful. So thanks you so much for watching the show, because like, ultimately that's why I'm here. So thank you, totally thank you. Brad. Yeah, sure, you guys at a real raising line here. You're reading emails. Look at GameSpot stuff, backward Day's ancient history, all Rich Galb's fault. At this point, all things come back

to Rich Gold. It's the most important man in the industry. Brian from Michigan. This actually ties into two emails ago with Kojima stuff. He writes in about the drawbacks of nostalgic kickstarters. After listening to you guys discuss Ukulele a couple of weeks ago and the new Ega game this past week, it got me thinking about the nostalgic kickstarter trend. Do you think it's a drawback

for the developers to have to trade on their old materials so much. I'm sure some of them have bigger, newer ideas, but the crowd just wants more of what they already know. Do former Rare employees want to make a spiritual successor to Banjo Kazoi or is that just what they're making because they know it will sell Along similar lines, Jeff said he'd be disappointed if the new

EGA game is just more symphony of the night? Will these types of kickstarters stifle creativity and just ensure that we're playing the same games every fifteen years? All I know is Boogerman didn't get fund That didn't. That's good. That's a good point, open and shut case. Neither did that Mutant League Football did it? Nope? Really yeah, No, Descent barely made it, although that one was a little dodgy in terms of what they were offering.

Trying to think they're they're definitely been like a number of more high profiles. Yeah, kickstarters didn't you know, run by people who made very high profile games in the past that did not get funded. So I feel like the people that will make those of the people who are making those because they because they can't or they won't make other games, Like there are the types of

people who want to make those. They have a passion for those games that mage years ago, or maybe they're designers from a bygone era and they're just like, you know what, I was comfortable I made this type of game, and I don't want to have to drag myself into the few the modern world of game design, Like I want to go back and do that.

And it seems like they find their audience via cast sure, And I mean in almost all these cases, these are types of games that they haven't been allowed to make for a long time, you know, like you guys said that, you know, like publishers told him no, the rare guys have not made this kind of platform or in ages like even all those CRPGs, you know, Torment and Waste Land and stuff like that, Like they're haven't

been publishers out there willing to support that kind of thing. So you would assume that even though these a lot of these people made these types of games ages ago, that there, it's been long enough they're probably ready to give

it another shot. You know, I would hope that's the case. It's not like anybody's like holding a gun to their heads saying you must make this, you know, but like, yeah, the odds of funding something or a billion times more if it's hey, remember something, of course, like hey, here's a passion project, let me tell you about. Yeah. When I buy that stuff, sometimes I don't even feel like I'm actually buying

a product. I feel like I'm like I'm tipping somebody who when I was a child, I wasn't able to tip them, Like I feel like, thank you so much for that thing you did, somebody who molded you. It's really strange, Like sometimes the game just turns up and I'm like going right about that. You're not backing a project, you're facilitating a dreamy kind of backed one Kickstarter and it was to h John Drake's flight tracker. Oh yes, it's me too, actually worthy good Worthy. I don't think I

ever actually played that. Just followed him on Twitter and I think it came out. I'll put that out. Yeah, should you should send him a diet coke? Okay, that's an HD re released coming out. Of course, that's what dam is doing. Of course. Uh. Jack from Williamsburg in Virginia. I think this will be the last email you get. A good one, Jack, all right, So it's hello, John Bomb Crew.

I was just eating my dinner spaghetti with tomato sauce, when I took a bite that was significantly hotter than I anticipated, causing me to suck in my breath fucked up right. For a moment, it felt like the sauce had found its way up my nose, but that passed quickly. A few minutes later, however, I found myself thinking, hmm, feels like there's a spaghetti noodle in the back of my nose. I grabbed a tissue, and sure enough, I blew a spaghetti noodle out of my nose. It

didn't hurt, I barely felt it at all. I found the whole situation rather humorous, in fact, but it made me wonder, what's the strangest thing any of you have ever blown out of your nose. Please make sure Dan is present when you read this. Just have a feeling he might have

a relevant experience. Swizzlers for me, like, yeah, what A friend of mine and I when we were probably like I don't know, ten years old, we had walk into town, lived very much out of the country, and when we finally got into town, we celebrated by just like chugging all this like fruit punch, Gatorade, and just chomping on all these fucking Twizzlers to the point that we got physically ill and eventually threw up these chewed

up Twizzlers and uh yeah, gatorade, And there were so much. It was such a high volume of this stuff that had sorted to come out my nose more like chunks of twizzleer I was. I was envisioning like an entire twizzler, just like pulling it out magic trick style. You could you could probably do. This was an involuntary Yeah. There was a guy in my primary school yard that would whenever he ate cheese that had come out of his

nose. Yeah, So he used to get like a superpower. Yeah, like a really lame it's like already shit, superta start a bank stop a bank robbery with that nemesis is somebody who like grossed out intolerant man. Yeah, So whenever he like every day at lunchtime, he'd open up his lunch box and we'd all like gather around to see if it was a cheese sandwich and then we'd watch him do it. It's just cheese. Yeah, it's just cheese. I don't understand the mechanics of this cheese would come up.

Yeah, I think it's just a way he ate it. I think he just sucked it eating. That could be anyway, Dan, we're all waiting over here. I'm thinking about that, and I feel I've told the Trip Cheese Kraft mac and Cheese story before on here, haven't. I Okay, it was that probably, I mean, just some new material here. I forget what I've told, but like, yeah, it was any one of those violent vomit sessions in college, just the multi weekly vomit sessions, Like

it always came up through my nose, like the puke always did. So like I've had, like you know, Nickelodeon colored mac and cheese shit come out of my nose before. Like so, yeah, lots of food, like basically anything I've ingested, tons of taco bell and fire sauces come out of my nose in the form of vomit, not just like you know, dispensing it from my nose or whatever. So lots of food, edible stuff, nothing crazy. We got a lot of emails trying to ruin your enjoyment

of taco bell They can't because yesterday the bug stuff. But do you know how many bugs might have been in there? As long as I tell myself they're not probably as long as I believe it. That's the Bella and Nacho's Bella Grande ignorance is bliss the Dan record story. Yeah it works, I guess so all right, that's gonna do it for emails, that's all I've got. BombCast a giant bomb dot com. Thanks to everybody who wrote in, and thanks to Danny Dwyer for being here with Thanks. Thanks man,

thanks having me. Always a pleasure long time podcast listeners, time caller, Yeah, well I've been on a couple of times. Really appreciate it now listen since Arrow pointing down Man, So it's an ancient history, man, Always a pleasure to be on here, dude. Plug dancers, Oh yeah, we've got a pomp bomb you do it? I talked too much? Did I say you can plug your ship on the show. Sorry, Man's tep Giant bomb dot com shit s fine, promote our other properties on this

problem. Yeah, man, that's Irish guy. Do a life advice podcast. The premium thing for subscribers. It's fun a good one this week. I thought, Yeah, Stephanie Goldavote, friend of mine who actually works as a therapist. She came on and yeah, it's a good two hour long podcasts. It's a new episode on the site. Yeah, I should be live right now. Episode Yeah ninth, yeahs could do something big for the tenth excellent. Oh fuck, maybe we'll actually give some advice. It's useful.

Okay, and ultime one as well, the podcast about speedy race cars on myself and just yeah, you're in the Shameless show over here. Look at this guy. You're in like you're in like every other podcast on the site already. Yeah, I'll be up again tomorrow's speaking the podcast again. Don't forget to look forward. The Giant Beast cast, Yeah on Friday on the website. What else we got going on this week? I don't know if I can commit to Yeah, I feel like it's every week. We'll

do some stuff we're not ready to talk about it. And there's been some stuff that have you know, kicked us in The new technology is being explored around here was a big Yeah, an akis Rift show not work out. I thought of another idea for a feature that Jason's looking at. If we can make it happen, well, it could be cool. Yeah, I mean you guys, did you guys did achieve the coast to coast quick look? Yeah? That was cool. Like if you could do that, you

could do anything. Jason made it so I could play punch out by punching John Drake in the face. He can get anything. True. That was a lot of fun. We will take a look at the new Destiny stuff. Like it or not. It's here, we're gonna talk about it. Uh, it's kind of full, like God on that one. I'm going to Mexico. What. Yeah, I'm from Mexico on Friday the Moor all day weekend, so I'm just streaming the whole thing. Yeah, periscope Mexico.

No, I'm not even gonna have like phone signal that it's gonna be in Mexico. No way to reach the outside world. I think we talked about it already, but you're doing the whole like like bar in the pool thing. Yeah, it's all inclusive this resort. So it's like infinite beer and I keeps saying free, infinite free, But then I remember I paid a thousand dollars for this. Did you get it? Margit pool? That's

just the last man on Earth thing. Yeah, I don't know. My mom has been there a bunch of times, and I guess you just drink all you went, Like you have a bar in your room and you eat and drink all you want. Have you never been to an all inclusive Nope. I've never been to Mexico. I've never done any kind of like tropical type vacation or anything like. I've never done beachy stuff. It's always been like going to cities and stuff. I did one for a friend's wedding,

and it's exactly what you think it is. I'm just like you step out the door at nine am and like somebody sticks a drink in your hand and you just kind of don't stop for the rest of the day. Is it like all Americans? Like everyone there is already much like the one? Oh yeah, how many days? I'm leaving Friday. I'm coming back Monday, so I'll be here for the next podcast. So probably with some stories,

just short enough that you don't kill yourself. I don't know if I actually read the email, or if it even was an email, or I read somewhere somebody talking about you, talking about pool bars and how drinking tends to lower your inhibitions. I've heard about rinking also tends to make you need no, yeah, and how you're probably just marinating in a pool full of urine

when you're hanging out the pool bar. Hey, ignorance is bliss, and I'll be pretty drunk, so you don't care, Okay, as long as I don't know about it, all right, invince myself trying not to swallow any Oh, that's a good, good rule with them for any pool. Really, that's okay. Yeah, yeah, that's fair man. You are good, good for giving advice, right, yeah. Yeah. We have a podcast answers every two weeks on job on dot com. All right,

that's gonna do it for this week's edition of the Giant Bodcast. Thanks everybody for listening. I'll be back for more stuff this week and then another there adition to the podcast next week