Giant Bombcast 04/12/2016 (Premium)

Mmm. Hello, it is April twelve, twenty sixteen. You are listening to the Giant Bomb cast. Dan record is back. Hey, I am Jason's doing finger air drumming and we do things over there, presumably in celebration of day to return. Yeah, get a little little She's texted me the whole time I was in Dallas. Yeah, but you missed me. I couldn't go on without you. Yeah. Yeah, we need him happening to do his job. So you're back. Oh okay, so the things can

continue. Hello Jeff, Hello, what's going on? I do you taxes? If you haven't done? I know, just talking to my financial guy about what are you doing tonight? Do your taxes? He said, what you haven't done it yet? No? Oh my god, I've got the envelope sitting on my desk and opened. Yeah, that's actually our plans tonight. Oh yeah, it's actually my wife's plans tonight. My plan is to watch baby and try and catch you fighter. But who do you think is

Jeff? If you want to come over, maybe she could do your taxes too. Who do you think might have done? I got my done. Yeah, it's the first time in years that I've been able to do them ahead of the actual do date. Wow, on account of some accounting complexities in the previous years that are not worth actually getting into. But boy, taxes, I would say, Brad, you am I right. You got caught up in some of that in the US past, Well I did so

this year the first just returned to splendor. Working working for startups is weird. Yeah. Yeah, selling a company stuff follow you around, even if you don't, even if none of that actually turns into money in your pocket, at some point turns into a fucking nightmare. Anyway, I was expecting to get a nice return and I wound up having to pay six thousand dollars. Wow, at once, somebody. That's a terrible feeling. Somebody's fucked up your withholding. I think no, So I think I did it right.

I just well, you've got you've got weird side revenue stream, that's what did it. Yeah, at some point you got to pay the pipe. I thought that Amazon took that out or something, but apparently they took zero of it out, and so I had to be here's six thousand dollars. Yeah, the cost of a green lime sign versus six thousand dollars. I don't know, Dan, I don't know if that was a smart move. What your self promotion? You're the air force that'd me winning a wallauigi

ambo. Oh okay, yeah, I believe that's an important one. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, I got the Doctor track Suit sign was my favorite prob. Yeah that was that now, Yeah that that that sign somehow made it back from from Texas. I met those guys and bought them beers and they gave me the signs. So it's a fantastic sign. It's really well, mate, we will we will show it to Doctor track Suit at

some point if yeah, if he ever resurfaces. Yeah, Jason, who was getting the better end of the deal between between watching the bay Maybe I'm doing taxes. I think I'm getting the better. Yeah, he's super cute. That's a lot of fun. Like he's yeah, he's got new voices. So he did that shrieking thing for a long time, but now he's moved just to like more of a guttural I'm gonna murder you scream cool, and it's just constant. But he's got a smile on his face the entire

time. So so what's the emotion that he's conveying just pure joy. Oh, we got him a bouncer and he is just constantly in motion with that thing. So he's either he's just like a hardcore band front man. I think he picked it up from like Cookie Monster or something like that. Yeah, most of them the most famous of darkcore bands. Yeah, I love Quick Monsters. But yeah, he'sh two voices voice of voice of an angel. Is it good shrinking or is it like I'm I'm upset? Baby,

I'm happy, okay, happy shrinking? That sounds fun, sounds like he's having a good time. He is, he totally is I am too? Oh I had a bouncer. Yeah, yeah, I probably make noises like that. There's three like bungee cords and stuff. There's fucking activities all around you. Three sixty degree motion in this seat. You can just turn around and have a brand new fucking activity. But you can spin. You want to fucking play with a chameleon? Yes, it's over here to your right.

You want to twirl the sun around? Let's tell ninety degrees to the right that have one of those abicus things on it. Uh No, this this sounds like any number of VR experience is not available. I would take this far far quicker than of r VR baby bouncer. I want it. Yeah, you know what, fuck that, let's go all the way. I want VR womb simulator. Oh, now you're telling Berthed, I didn't

know you wanted to get into VR this early in the podcast. All right, let's being birthed is the tragic, But that's gotta be part of it. Tragic end, tragic conclusion of a thing. That's the end. You want to return and stay there, unhappy ending, bad end, real time nine months simulation. Yeah, it's not enough time. Ten months at least, Go deep. That's the tagline, right now, Go deep. That's the different our experience right there. This's got really uncomfortable. Just let's move

on. Except I spent some time watching VR porn this weekend. Really really well, how did that come to be? I went to this podcast thinking, all right, we're not gonna for the first time like a month, we're not going to talk about VR. But I feel okay about where this VR discussion is going. Yeah. So it was something that was happening in Slack on like Friday. You guys were talking about something about r VR porn and should we do something with it. Is there something to do with that?

We feel like were just like, you know, just should be someone someone balling. I received an interview solicitation, Yeah yeah, for a major proprietor of of pornograph adult entertainment of VR and otherwise asking if we wanted to speak with the CIO of this company thinking around given demos or something like that. Yeah, so I don't know what that that That seems weird that a little Yeah, I don't. I don't know that you need to talk to

like the guy from the website because it's just they're just videos. There's just three sixty videos. Like you could either have Paul McCartney and you get to stand next to his piano or you get to see some real crazy three D business at the end of these scenes. Why not wait, three D business like they're polygonal people. No, no, no, no, no, it's just it's three D video, Okay, three D A like one eighty Is it like point of view kind of stuff or there are actually like there

are both. So it's one of those things where like the videos have to be offered in multiple formats to accommodate things like oh well, for the gear VR we've produced this lower quality thing. And if you want to hire res video then for the Oculus, it's this is for Vibe, it's you know, for for that, and yeah, so it's it's there are some three sixty ones, there are some one eighty ones. Yeah, it's kind of just depends on what you're looking for. So I did not sign up for

any site. So it's kind of like looked at some preview videos that they had posted to get a sense for like what this even is, and and kind of see it for myself. Uh, and it is exactly what you think it is. I mean, it's it's instead of like the head it's you are there with the camera instead of a headless driver in Project cars, it's a headless nudeman. So it's like a point of view video. It's

it is exactly that. It is exactly that, okay, And just but you can look around and it's in three D. If with all the wonderment and weirdness that that brings. It's very juttery, okay, which is when you like when you move your head around or no, no, just playback is not playback's not smooth, and my experience was not super smooth and these are examples from a few different sites and it was streaming right No, no, no, these were download downloadable sample still yeah, yeah, yeah,

like just the frame rate just wasn't there or something. I don't know, but it's not up to the you know, usual quality of No, no, not really, it's you know, and and not up to the quality of other VR experiences and all this other stuff. But I don't know. It's one of those things where it's like you look at it and it's you know, these are all traditional porn sites that are for the most part, there's there's one that that is kind of specializing in this sort of stuff.

But it's been weird, you know. It's it's weird because they all you know, have the typical kind of porn site monthly process of like, hey give us twenty five bucks a month and you'll get access to eighty sites that we all own and they're all the same stuff anyway, And so like the VR stuff though, it's been happening since the release of the Gear VR, so we're you know, like a year in and change or whatever it is.

There's not a ton there are not there's not an abundance of available content, right now do the tube sites have sections like if you go to like porn hub or something to do like a VR tab. Yeah, and yeah, but in those in those cases, that would be you full screening a streaming video and then putting on the heavy video putting on Yeah, well, I mean it's a side by side three D. Oh it's still three D. Yeah, it's still three D, but it doesn't it's a streaming resolution.

But you can still move. Even the three sixty videos are still just videos. It's how it's displayed in the headset, whether it's sphere or don't. So it turns out this is the actual use for that virtual desktop soft where I mean you could use it just top in the sky, but it all it is also a very effective three D video player for that stuff.

And yeah, so like like watching that stuff at a streaming resolution and frame rate, it's fascinating because it's like, like, for as much as like VR has this like dream like non real quality to it, seeing actual humans moving in a sex like manner, sex like at a at a like with this weird kind of jittery kind of movement and stuff, it's just it makes the whole thing feel like a like a television show that is doing a sci fi storyline about like the injected porn into their memories to get off, and

like these are the flashes they show when they're showing the guy as he's dying or something like. It's that kind of like dream like a theory like not ethereal. It's it's weird, like it's fucked up looking. It looks fucked up in a way that is like kind of fascinating, but like really weird. I did. It's one of the things where I imagine, like I wonder if maybe like these are just older videos that are being produced that that you know, they haven't really spent into the high frame rate, the you

know whatever they need to like alleviate those problems. These could just be like left over three D videos at the shot from from like the original three D Craze. No, well, I mean I suppose that's possible, and I don't. I don't think that's the I think it's stuff they shot for VR, but it's maybe they're just not spending on the cameras at the up to the rate that they could be. Because the stuff that like Jaunts, the Jaunt video app that's in the Oculus store and it's on Vibe as well.

Like the quality of those, you know, it was a streaming video, so like the the image resolution was weird, but the movement all seemed fine, whereas all of these scenes that I downloaded from their preview section and stuff like that, like they all just seemed a little off. So it bits surreal. I mean, obviously it's not gonna, you know, give you a real life experience. Also, the sense of scale was way off in some of them where it was just like no, well where it was just

like everything is huge. Is this woman nine feet tall? What is happening? Like that's my kink? It's like yeah, no, totally right, yeah, and then some of it looked like super tiny. It was just like what what's going on? Like just the sense of scale is very like

seems to vary a lot from video to videos. So you know, I me and and that's you know, they're handful sights and these are just the I didn't I didn't go pay them the twenty five bucks a month or whatever to download the nine scenes they have or whatever it is, or you know forty in some cases, like they but they didn't have a ton of it. Well, I mean, it's a hot and budding technology totally in a

little while to get there. But man, I mean, you know, and every single one of them is like like pushing v R hardware hard in terms of just like sign for this stuff. We will send you this device that you put your phone into, and so they're they're all selling Google cardboard style or they're all like hey, sign up and we'll send you one for free. Sign up and we'll give you one for twenty bucks, or just one of the cheap things that you can like yeah, just amount your amount

any phone in and you can watch the videos. Like that's that's the primary means for this stuff. And then some of them have like Oculus stuff, but a lot of that, you know, their instructions are written for like DK two and stuff like that, so they have not necessarily gotten up to supeed with like you know, consumer Oculus and Vibe and stuff like that. That's interesting, yeah, because important such a huge industry. Like I really

think that it helped push like the DVD market and totally yeah. I mean you even hear about like you know, the vhs totally yeah, Like they are basically I think the deciding factor like yeah, if history is taught as anything. It's the adult industry will figure out what to do with this stuff one way or the other. Yeah, right now we're early days. Uh yeah, I don't know. It's weird putting, the putting, the like the hop horn angle aside, the like Okay, take the best three sixty

video that you watched, Yeah, does that seem cool? It's like it's novel. Is there is there like a good use for a video that you can turn your head around and look around it. It's very novel. But I wouldn't say it was something where I felt like, oh man, this is the only way I want, Like even the idea of like you know they have the video projectors that will project a video onto a fake movie screen

and uh and that sort of stuff. It's I don't know, Like, you know, I kind of I said something on Twitter or something a while back saying like I don't understand why anyone would ever want to do that because I had done it and came away from the experience going absolutely not, And then a lot of people who had not done it were like, no way, man, I'll totally do it. It's like because because I have a shitty TV and it's like no, try Like, look, if you have

a TV that's capable of running modern console games, the image quality is going to be sharper there than it is in any headset. So the idea of like, you know, you you would have to be really hard up to play a video game immediately to want to play it in like projected onto a two D screen inside of VR, because I think the resolution, and more importantly, like the way the image gets blurry at the outer edges of your vision just makes that unpleasant. Like that's not a good way to do any

of this stuff, I think. And again I think it's very novel. I think it's really fascinating. And if you could have like multiple users in a single space watching a movie together and interacting and you know, doing whatever, I think that would be potentially interesting. And three D video into like three sixty video and stuff like that, like you know, whatever, there's there will probably be some cool uses of that. I mean, whatever, there are cool uses of that, like the stuff that's in Jaunt, the

stuff the I mean, even the porn. To a certain extent, You're like, this is fascinating. And there was one three sixty scene where they had like multiple performers in it, and one of them is doing stuff to the character that your head is attached to. And then there are two people off of the side, and then you turn around and there's just a lady back there, just just doing whatever by yourself, like a little egg you never known around it's going on back there, there's a yeah, there's there's

a bunch of weird stuff like that. And and I don't know, like everyone is kind of going to explore that space and hit on like what the things are that make that stuff work? But it's it's it's very novel, but like no thanks. Like the video in VR, I just think kind of overall seems like something you do a couple of times and go like all right, it's about what you do with that video, I think more importantly than like or peripherals. I guess like oh sure, sure, yeah,

maybe someone could make use of the vibe controllers. It's teldonics. It's gonna be it's already huge, it's gonna be huger. That's where I can actually get up and like go hide in the closet. Yeah, there's something, yeah, I mean, and and I don't know if I don't know what technology would even be required to let you walk around a video That actually sounds impossible, But I don't know. But that's the thing is, like you know, because I mean the Star Trek Technical Manual did its fair point tenty

years ago. Yeah. Yeah, so the video stuff is really it's it's really novel. But you know, you see all these people going like, oh, we're doing basketball games and VR. Yeah, like live live events sounds still sounds like the thing to me that that would be useful for. But also like think about television broadcasts and how good they are in terms of like it would be a different style of watching the thing though, yes, it would be for people who want to feel like they're there or like see

it from that perspective. Yeah, but you know it's you don't how much time do you need to like turn around and go, wow, there's a crowd of people behind me. That's all who everyone was because that that's the whole thing is like, well I'm in three sixty three D I'm gonna look around do this twelve Yeah, but and you know, like the crowd's going to be playing too that camera like whoever's sitting around there like they wants them I think to be sitting in there like the crowd, like being there and

experience it. Yeah, I have to assume they wouldn't trine that thing so that people couldn't fuck with it, but not fuck with it, but just like I don't know, maybe they look at it. Yeah, sure, yeah, maybe they maybe they sit a bunch of people around it to be characters. They had that thing in the store where you could like be on

the ramp for Jimmy and Jay Usso's entrance or whatever. Finally, and I did that, and it's like, man, this isn't now I would watch raw, I don't think no, or even like I wouldn't even like flip to it for the entrance or whatever. Right, it didn't seem great. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, you know, obviously, like the technology will get better, like at some point those screens do get sharp enough to where that's like valuable and interesting. But I think where it is

right now, it just doesn't make a lot of sense. Yeah, and you know whatever, I mean, you know, the porn stuff. People have needs, and if their needs happen to include three D first person action, it's there for them. I don't know, it's seemed kind of lame, but it's early days. It's early days. Firsthand report now we know, well, we'll keep an eye on it. It seemed cool in Time Cop. Yeah porn. Yeah, I thought it was really good in like

Star Wars Christmas Special they had VR porn in that. Yeah, totally. Okay. What I remember that in Time Cop because I watched it when I was like ten, and then it went to a VR porn thing and then I had to turn it off because as afraid my mom was gonna walk in. Grandpa Wookie just like sat down on his lazy boy, scrapped down the VR helmet and there was like a dancing lady and okay, actually real,

I've never actually sat down and watched that thing. It's really bad. Ye seen enough clips for him and to know like all right, yeah I get it. Yeah, there was people like this, ironically, that's cool dancing ladies. Yeah, exciting. All right, Well, we kept our VR talk to a minium this week. We could keep going. No, not good, Okay, I think we're good. Let's talk about the regular video games. Know of a couple yeah that are going on right now, such

as who has brought something for the class street fighting. Real Quick played in the teament No Real Quick sorry. Played in a community tournament this past weekend. That was super awesome. Yeah, playing with the members of the our community. Yeah, okay, yeah exactly, which was tough because you know, that's the time that I watched the baby and so he was like in happy shriek hype mode, like while I was trying to play, Baby's just getting hype. But yeah, stuffing wrong with that. Yeah, But and

then he like zonked out immediately after I was done. But I did all right, lost my first one. They got through the next three or so, and then lost the second one. Yeah. There's If there's anything I could tell you from the community StarCraft tournaments that used to happen, it's that the community is way more savage than you ever expect. Yeah. Yeah, there was some you get in there, but yeah, it just some of

it. Like it was a worldwide thing, so you're playing against people in the UK, and unfortunately, you know, with the GGPO stuff, it's hit or miss, like you know sometimes like my connection seemed great with this one guy, Hassan actually, and he had just a terrible laggy fucking experience, like I was, you know, just jumping around the screen and uh so that sucked for him. You thought you were bodying him. Yeah, I'm like, fuck, yeah, I got this guy's number. Man.

But as it turns out, yeah, I was just a yeah shake lagging on somebody's part. Yeah, that's the that's the job, actually the GGPO stuff. But no, that was that was That was a good time school. Yeah. I like playing in the tournament format and against you know, real dudes and stuff. I'm sure I'm sure that the lobbies helped facilitate. Yeah. Yeah, lobbies were fine. I had no disconnection issues. So yeah, everything was great. It went by in like an hour, you

know, it was over really quick. Yeah, they were, they were on the game. Excellent. Cool. Cool, all right, Dan, you haven't been here in two weeks. Yeah, it's good to play video games again. We can talk about them. Yeah, I'm wrestled out. I'm ready to get back to video good Yeah hit mee uh okay, well, you know, keeping with the hottest new games, I've been playing a lot of Soul Caliber one, Soul Caliber two, and I just bought soul Caliber five again to lease. Okay, no I want to hear Yeah,

No, let's talk about wrestling instead. Okay, definitely more interesting than anything soul Caliber has done. Pas soul Caliber one, Why are you were all good? Why are you playing so much soul Caliber? Oh? My girlfriend and I realized we both played the first one a ton and two a ton, so it's backwards compatible. One and two are yeah, And so I bought that HD online one that was on through sixty that's now backwards compatible and

it has hey hotchi and spawn no link. Yes, I can't play online, it seems, but we just do survival and team battle and stuff. So I've been playing a ton of that, and she hadn't played five, So I just bought it on eBay. And I remember that one being pretty good. Five is the most recent one, right, well, if you don't count that like free to play thing that nobody? God, that's right, that did happen? Didn't it come out on p S three? I

think that one's gone now too. They've since shut it down. I remember looking at the tech and free to play thing, right, but man, I have no recollection of their being Yeah namco, man, they got out there and tried some ship. Yeah was that console only? That was PfP three only? And I guess. I never played it, but I read that it had in like terrible load times was getting you know, all four reviews across the board. I'll have to you know, free to play stuff

that didn't seem great. So course remember a lot of it being kind of a mess. Yeah, yeah, but that was a while ago. Yeah, it makes me one day, so Caliber six pretty bad before to playing five agame because I remember liking that one. But yeah, that's a great series. Outside of that, new games I played star Fox zero can't give full impressions of it yet, can you say? I can say my thoughts about that from what I played at E three, and my concerns based on

all the marketing and everything are founded. And it makes me wonder how good Star Fox ever was. Wow, Because I'll say it. You can tell even just looking at you know, the videos and stuff that are out now. It is the most like Star Fox sixty four out of any star Fox since sixty four, which is what I thought. I wanted. Let's run that, Okay, Let's run. There was Adventure ye, and then Adventures which was the Zelda like one that had any r wings basically a third person

at Adventure Yes. And then there was Assault on the GameCube, which they were like, Okay, it's gonna go back to like the R wing stuff that you wanted, but then had a ton of like kind of open map tank slash on foot stuff and so there's only like a handful of R wing missions and whatever one wants is the R wing linear missions that occasionally you know, it's an all range mode and you know boss fights or star wolf fights or whatever. And yeah, that game kee won. The second one screwed

it up by just having way too much on foot stuff that sucked. And then there was Star Fox Command. Command was on, which that one felt kind of sold this and it was a lot of just like you know, plotting out your teammates and strategy stuff like on the touchpad, and it was our wing focus. But if I remember right, it was all kind of like arena stuff like flying around. It did not it didn't really have a campaign, if I remember, not much of a story, not much of

one at all. And then I think there's there's yeah, yeah, Command was the one DS one, I guess, and then they did Star Fox sixty four three, which that's just the remake. Uh, but yeah, this one kind of a checkered history for star Fox. I mean, yeah, since this is the un sixty four yeah, and it's it's there's one good star Fox game and it was the first star The star Fox six four is the best one. Oh my god. I like sixty four a lot when it came Great. It's the train one with the tank that I remember

being so bummed out by that game showing up. That is like a Mario Kart level of like office going, wait, what the fuck is this? What was what was it? Okay, all right, I'll buy what was wrong with it? I don't remember Star Fox. I was in school when that game came out, so it was you could finish it in like two hours, and it was like one of those things where it's like a bunch

of branching path stuff, but none of that felt worth doing. It was just like, well, just present me the game instead of just like, oh, well, welcome to star Fox zero. Yeah. Well yeah, yeah, so it's it's kind of yeah. That was my major thing with it, is it just like it for game Other games were coming out in that era and stuff like that. It felt very slight. And also I just didn't really care for the multiplayer in it. Oh yeah, no,

one did, so I remember that being the big hook. No people were like, oh, I didn't know any I was in like junior high, and no one cared about the multiplayer like everyone hated that. Really Okay, I just thought that was the thing that like fans of that game latched onto, because I can't imagine them latching onto the single player stuff. No. I mean there was like novelty, like I think you could unlock like on footstep for multiplayer and that's if you got a certain amount of medals or something

and then but it was not good. But yeah, it was the campaign that I liked, And yes it was slight, and but but I remember really wanting to go back and play all those and find all the secret paths and yeah, we get a number of hits for all the metals and all that stuff and go the hard route to the andross and everything. Man, but if you felt that was slight in ninety seven, uh, this is sixty dollars and twenty sixteen, and it is very comparable. You know.

I can't go into like super specifics and stuff like the in fights and all that stuff. But man, so we'll have a review soon. Yeah, it's closer to launch, but it's so much like sixty four and even if you strip away my concerns with the game pad stuff, which was my initial concern. Yeah, uh, there's not a lot there. It's a sixty dollars game and turn your R wing into a chicken. Yeah you can do

that, counterpoint? All right. Yeah, so I think I'm done, Like this is what I think I was asking for for so long, a Starbucks, and I think now it's like, ah, I don't even know. I don't know what I want, if anything from that series anymore. So all right, that's I think I'm done with Starbucks. I'll you know,

play asm and Smash Brothers every once in a while and Ambos. I remember I remember being really excited about Star Fox two before that came out, oh right before the Superintendo One, because it was just like, you know, look great, I don't I just like that look Like as they added graphical fidelity to Star Fox, I think I liked the universe a lot less. Okay, it was just like, oh, lar wings are just a space ship. Huh, what's seeing the polygonal look? No? I know

that they have an unlockable and then you have the Fox amibo. No, Okay, I have two of them, and if you tap it on the thing, you turn into the Super Nintendo and that doesn't help. That doesn't helps. Too late makes sound effects and everything that's kind of neff and you're with you kind of cool right there on the disc. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know, man. Star Fox just always seemed like this really crazy, Like when that first game came out, it felt like magic.

You were just like, why would a Supernintendo even be able to do this? And when you remove it from that kind of like what wizard rehappened to make this game and just say like, oh, we made a space shooting game, which is what it was. Every game past that since Star Fox two got canceled. Uh, it's it's way less interesting. I don't know. Yeah, it just it's just never never grabbed me at all. Yep, Yeah, I'm but a man. Star Fox one is an awesome

fucking game, really cool. Holy shit, it's sixty four so similar in the way it's formatted, like one had the branching paths and yeah, but it was novel at that point. It was you know again like that that that whole game was novel at that point. Yeah, you know, it's like even the talking animals and stuff. You were like, oh man, cool and sixty four and Ross just turned into a brain and eyeballs if you

do it right. And then I walked back past your desk and literally a fucking frog popped up on the screen and said, do a barrel ron. It was the rabbit. It's Peppy that says do a barrel roll. But yes he does say that again. Well okay, that'll still It's just like, huh all right, to keep our lower straight please. Yeah. Yeah. Outside of that, uh, Jeff, I know we're probably both around the same amount into the new Ratchett and Clank, Yes, which a new

old new Clank. Yeah, the street Fighter, the movie the Ratchet. Yeah, yeah, totally. It seems real cool. And I realized that, you know, the last full Ratchet and Clank was that I think was it a cracking time like probably like twenty ten, twenty eleven one with all those cool little puzzles. I just I did not like the PS three Ratchet games one bit. See, I like total of destruction and cracking time, and even like Ratchet three at that point, like the third Rater Arsenal,

that's the best one it's it's yeah. But at that point, like I had played two of them, and so it was just like by the time they got three, which is where they really started making changes, because two was a lot like one. Okay, I just had a different hood color. It was like, oh, this one's red. I think I came in perfectly to that series because it was like the early days of college and in high school when the first two were coming out, and it was like,

I'm too old for this. This is like my little sister plays this game, yeah, and she loved it. Where's my Pokemon stadium we got exactly Yeah, So I thought I was like too old for this kiddie game or whatever. And then the third one came out and I remember like ign or something gave it a nine point eight, and I was like, wait, really, like are these few really good games? I was like fuck it, I'll just I'll just go buy up your Arsenal and I did.

It. Turns out it's really great, totally like probably the peak of the series. In a lot of ways. It was kind of where I like became less interested in it because it was the third one. It was just favor one. But also like in terms of like refining the game and giving you a lot of options and stuff like like three is probably the creative peak. Yeah, I remember all the weapons were awesome, like the level up stuff seems to stand. That was that was where they really got into to

that aspect of it. I think it was just one of those things where it's like, you know, having played through two tales of Lombacks and Robot Man, by the time of Third World around, like, you know, the jokes did not his horror, the story was not as interesting, you know. Yeah, for me, I think it was. It was more like I like the writing and the comedy in those games. I think they

work. But for me, it was more about the weapons and like the action, like it was those games were so much more action heavy than I expected before I played him. I thought it was more kind of Jack and the extra platform me. But man, there's just a lot of shooting and that I feel like they got better, you know, maybe, well they got a lot better at just saying like here, make sure, you know,

make sure the player knows that there's AMMO everywhere. Yeah, yeah, so that you don't fall into this trap of saving all your AMMO and just using the wrench because I probably played through most of the first game just using the rent like just in case, Just in case, man. But yeah, they by the time they got to around three, they probably probably got a lot better at conveying that sort of stuff to the player, and that

was always very rewarded. And blast everything apart with these dumb ass weapons. Yeah, and there's just eight thousand boxes everywhere in constant bolts just flying at your friend. Yeah. So, so by not liking those games or kind of just like being over them for a good chunk of time, like this new one, this this remake, this reboot is actually pretty cool. Yeah, like level it's like a remake of the first one. Yeah, it's

it's so it's it's not a full remake, it is it is. It is based it is based on the movie, which is based on the events of the first game. Okay, so the movie is basically a retelling of the Ratchet and Clank or story, and then they made a game based on it, and then the game goes out of its way to let you know

that it knows that. Yeah. So like right out of the box, there's you know, like, yeah, you're running into a guy who was just like if I met you before, and he's like, see you in the next reboot, you know it jokes that were like you get a lot of like Ratchet just looking around on what yeah, all right, well whatever, and like Captain Quark being confused by it. But like I know,

I think it was the Hall of Film. But then there was the disc that yeah right right yeah, and that actually is the framing device for the story. Is it's Captain Quark kind of retelling the events to someone, which I don't know. Captain Quark is actually like kind of my least favorite part of the franchise, but whatever, it's I think it works well enough here and gives them an out for when they want to deviate from what the first game was. Uh, it gives them gives them like a narrative out for

that stuff too. It looks really nice. Yeah, it seems to be running it out thirty probably just like image quality in terms of just like the

character looks awfully nice. Like it's it's a good looking game. So I was reading that the people making the movie and Insomnia, we're trading assets back and forth, so like they would make the three D like the CGI model for the movie and send it over and they would tweak it to make an anime better in the game, and they were sharing this so there'd be parody between the movie and the game, which all sounds really cool. It sounds

like they're probably doing this right as far as the movie and game. Stuff. Like the trailer got really good reactions. Yeah, so I'm actually curious to see it, you know, I'm never really there's a pacing to the dialogue and stuff in this that, like the comedy works, yeah, because it's it's it's well timed, it's well paced, like all the stuff that you kind of need to make that stuff work works and and that's really hard

for games to get right, and a lot of them don't. So you know, like you gotta give all the credit in the world for that, because that's stuffs. That stuff's real hard. But I completely forgot that there was a Ratchet Clank movie even coming out, yeah, like this month, which is crazy. Yeah, they delayed the game or both of them so they could like come out around the same time. So yeah, I don't.

I remember seeing this game running for the first time back at the play station Experience, and I was just kind of walking past and like Ratchet whatever, and then I actually stopped for a seconde actually, holy shit, Like yeah, like when you really look at these environments and stuff like that, like like compared to what Ratchet has looked like, and also just like this actually looks pretty fucking good. Yeah, there's some stuff about the shooting that

I don't love, but whatever. Yeah. I like the new upgrade system for the guns, like where it's got this kind of branching like sphere grid type thing, and once you encompass these question mark ones, you get kind of these bonus upgrades and you don't know him until you get him. And yeah, I think I'm excited for this one because like they put out Quest for Booty, and I think there might have been one other one that was

just like this downloadable smaller Ratchet game. It wasn't Quest for Booty, the downloadable one. Yeah, that was the one MPs three. I can't remember if they made another one past that, but Question for Booty I think was the most recent one. I thought Cracket Time came after Quest for Booty. Wasn't Quest for Booty DLC four Tools of Destructions was what was the Tower Defense one? Oh? That was are you thinking? Locked? That was?

That was before that that was that was a weird period in Ratchet history, and that was a dark, dark bit that was that was been the console like like, well, let's get one more of these out. That was between after Arsenal and Tools of Destruction. Oh right, probably late PS two even I think, and then there was old Agent Clang for PSP and PS two they did. They did that Ratchet all for one game, right, Ratchet has been all over the place. Yeah, like there hasn't been a

full one since a cracking time. They made some mistakes along the way there, but at the same time, like man, you know, like main Burbank and Zombiac like kind of you know, here and there with different stuff, and like meanwhile, the other Insomnia, right, the other Ensombiac studio just thrumming away with Ratchet games on the rege into the Nexus was ast okay. Yeah, like they have been cranking out Ratchet games steadily, Full Frontal

Assault oh yeah in twenty twelve. Yeah, so like and then all these kind of one Ratchet game of Year whatever, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, right, they founded the second studio in North Carolina and it's just been ratcheting for man, that's ever, it's really wild, Like, yeah, I'm trying to I'm trying to look back into this, like, yeah, your Arsenal in two thousand and four was where like I was kind of like, yeah, that was that was was a good one of those games.

But by playing the first two in two thousand and three and two thousand and two, yeah, it was a little a little a little boring at that point. Yeah, whereas if you're jumping on point totally. Yeah, I mean it's obviously I mean they're going to keep improving as they make them, right, But a lot of the fun for me is like in these big, full ratche games, like seeing like oh, you've got your combuster or your your pyro whatever, and seeing how much more powerful it gets over the

course of a long game. Like I felt like the shorter games did not give me that sense. It was like now it's like, oh, Okay, this is gonna be a big, full ass game. I'm looking forward to to watching this progression. So yeah, I'm I'm way in the mood for this game, right Yeah. Like I'm looking at the our franchise page for Ratchet and Client right now, and yeah, there's like there's first three Ratchet games, which is kind of the core, and then after that it

just spins off into just junk. I thought all that stuff was was real, real rough or every everything. Everything I tried. It was just like, man, Nope, I don't want to come back to ratchets at all. If you're gonna make this, yeah, multiplayer focus thing, you're gonna do this with ratical like size matters on PSP. Yeah, I think Deadlocked was like an arena combat thing, and then full Frontal Assault was the tower defense thing. I think, yeah. And I just thought Tools of Destruction

was was kind of rotten too. I remember that looked really good. That was early PS three. I remember all the like parts where you're like sliding down the rails and the city's collapsing in the background. It looked really cool. But I liked the game, but I don't think it had the impact

of up your arsenally. Not No. And then in the cracking time, I actually really liked the clank sections where they had the cool like you're making copies of yourself and like, okay, you're gonna make shadow clank step on this switch and then rewind time and your shadow still goes and does that and you have to work in conjunction. Like those puzzles were awesome, I thought,

so. Yeah. I don't know, man, I wonder if this will lead to just like a new resurgence for Ratchet, Like if this game ends up coming out doing well, if the movie does okay, like if they if they're just like, nope, we're back in it making proper fucking sequels to Ratchet and Clank now with this is the new origin story, like let's go, and that's definitely my favorite thing in Soniac's ever done. Yeah, man, all this is just making me really bummed out that nobody else

really liked Sunset Overdrive around here. I liked it a lot. Were you into that game? Yeah, we talked about that. I really enjoyed it. I thought I remembered everybody else, No, I beat it, loved it. Okay, Yeah, all right, great game. Okay, that's good to hear. Yeah, there's a lot of you know, a lot of shared DNA there with crazy ass weapons, and yeah, the grinding aspect was like fan fuckantastic. All the traversal stuff in that game, grinding grinding

on rails. Yeah, yeah, like right, I thought the traversal stuff was I don't know, maybe it just takes a while your mind around it, but I just like it was so off putting out of the gate, like I just didn't well, well, yeah, I will definitely say they they stop about one or two traversal moves short of where you need to be at the beginning of that game by it, because like you you get like the like there's the air dash, there's I forget, there are some other

like upgrades around bouncing off of things and keeping your combat going. Yeah, like that that was fun like four or five out. Well know, I mean you get that stuff four or five hours in and that's when it gets awesome. Like I agree, like it's a little bit disjointed the traversal stuff at the beginning, but as soon as you get those upgrades, having to get combat book in your on rails, that's what was off putting. Really.

Yeah, so generous felt like it all again, like it takes a few hours to really get the stuff you need, but once it clicks, like it plays so well. Hey guys, thought like that, like the auto am being as generous as it was kind of made it on engaging. I guess on the shooting end. I mean obviously like it's they balanced in

favor of like you focus on the traverse and it just happens. It moves the focus towards, you know, moving around and making sure your combo stays up and that kind of thing that makes sense for the type of game that is. I just didn't really like it, and and you know, and obviously they also did Resistance, which I know, thanks, like yeah, like the first one. Yeah, Sunchet, I should point out is a

free games game with gold this month? Oh is it? Yeah? Oh yeah, so yeah, if you've got Xbox a lot of gold, fucking go down on that game. Shit. Yeah, why not show anybody here play Fuse? I Refuse too multiplayer Fuse with Brad Yeah for his review yep, Jeff, Yeah, me, Jeff and Vinny. I think ended up finishing the game like I got. I got basically to the last mission and I was like, hey, I need to try the co op for the review. You guys want to play some Fuse. And we finished the game

and I was like, all right, which guy were you? Were you the shield guy, the mag shield? I think I played the shield guy. Okay, I was the guy with the like melty bullets or whatever. You could shoot the stuff end of the wall and then press the button in like lava spurts would come out. Yeah. Man, that game, I

don't I don't know. It's hard to say how much of that is Insomniac and how much was he a But yeah, it was originally over Killed, over Don't Tell, over Strike, Yes, over Strike with the kind of team for style. Yeah, that initial announcement trailer for that game. I was like, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, and then like the new art style and the box art I think we're revealed at the same time saying oh no, what are you doing to this? Congratulations, we have

focused tested the fun out of this video game for you. Look great, awesome. I'm glad to hear this new Ratchet is shaping up. That sounds Yeah, it's all right, sure, you know that's cool. Yeah, pleasantly surprised or I guess, I mean, I don't know. I thought it looked pretty good last time I saw it some months ago, so it wasn't a huge surprise. But yeah, neat, yeah, real cool, excellent, and yeah I'll be playing through that. We'll have quick looks and

all that stuff for star Fucks and Ratchett excellent. A week or two. Video games are coming out. Yeah, as per usual. As of right now, there are video games. They are all over the places right this second, they are among us. We're about to find video games living among us. As of this recording, they also exist. Yes, but also as you're listening to it, also Dark Souls three. Yeah, is that

it's coming out as we're recording it is. We will know shortly if the PC version figure out if this crash that has happened on our studio PC Jason, you had to happen once at home have not happened. Okay, not at home at all. Yeah, and I've tried. It has been the weirdest situation with this game because we got steam keys like three weeks before release, which is the hard crazy early for any game, much less like a big triple A like help publisher backed game. You know, it's it's a

Dark Souls game. And that's dude, it doesn't matter what it is like that is that is crazy early to get this double legget. No, I'm just sucking around. Wait what fact, I mean, take a look at

that game, serious production values, like it looks fucking incredible. It's why why does the cover look like the dude is giving a fucking thumbs up, Like what is going on with cover of Dark Souls three where he's just got his like pointy thumb and it just looks like he's given this really fucking non committal thumbs off, like a buddy, I've lived, I've made it, like we bought. Yeah, exactly, I got good. I summoned and we got through it. That's yeah, that's a that's a you know,

cultural thing. You'd give a thumbs up after you summon with something. Yeah, yes, yeah, show show the proper respect, dude, Ross, Yes, the fist bump. Yeah. So yeah, we got the game super early and they were like make long story short, like like kind of early patches that we applied to it that we're supposed to be basically what the day one patch was going to be, and then immediately started running into crazy crashes to desktop left and right consistently, like in the same spot. Yeah,

Vinny and al Austin both had tons of trouble with crashes. Yeah, and there's still having that issue. Yeah, like a current like the one Oath three. Yeah, they put out another patch, one of three on Friday. That's it should be the one that's coming out at launch. I think, yeah, we tried to play that. You tried to play the game on upf he on Friday and ran into the same crash. It's just it's something about bonfires. Being at a bonfire makes the game crash the desktop.

Those aren't important bad thing to having a Dark Souls game, But yet at home, like I said, I tried religently to try and reproduce that. All different classes came at it from all different angles, and I couldn't get to crash. I I don't know what the deciding factor is. It's super weird and crazy and inconsistent. It's led to conspiracy theories amongst the staff about like are you are you hooked up for over HDM everybody, like everybody

everybody on the staff has like seven hundred series cards. Everybody on the staff

has a pet theory about what it is that's causing these crunch uh. So yeah, Like the game is unlocking on Steam as we speak, so hopefully in the next few minutes we will find out if this is actually a widespread You said you heard Jim Sterling had run into the same I thought I had read that, So I think I think I saw that too, but I like, I know a lot of other like streamers and stuff that had it on PC that no problems for the last like, yeah, we're just lucky,

no idea. What's going on with that? Is everyone running Windows ten? Yes? M M, I don't know who knows. I tried to go to Dark Souls three on the Steam Store and it says, sorry, but you're not permitted to view these materials at this time. Are you using HDMI? How old are you? Maybe? Does your phone run on a seven seventy possibly? Okay, yes, my phone has a seven seventy's yeah, uh yeah. Do we have breaking news which by the time people hear

this will be stale and krusty news. I don't know. Yeah, Dark Souls is out, but I'm seeing some people talk about a one point one update, which I don't know if that's one if they really mean one point zero one, okay, because one point oh one came out like yeah, like a couple weeks ago, like I said, and then one point oh three came out on Friday. I think I'm just I'm poking around a few

different like form threads and stuff like that. There's a story from today from some side I have never heard of that says dark Souls three patch one point one okay, but but but it's about like benchmarks or something, Dark Souls one point oh versus one point one patch. Okay, that that sounds less like somebody somebody version number straight. Yeah, that's that sounds just wrong. But well one point of three addressed some performance stuff pretty profoundly. Yeah.

Yeah, there was one area in particular that was running like sub thirty at times on the PC YEA some consoles. Yeah probably I didn't get a chance to see it in person, but uh yeah, once one of three hit, I went directly to that area and it was running just fine. Yeah. Yeah, it sounds like they cleaned that stuff up. One guy on this shifty discord I frequent says that he's got a seven seventy and his crashing. Okay. I think that might be the one common thread at this point

between every machine we've had these crashes on. They're all running seven hundred series cards. Does anybody check the video site for locked updated drivers for because normally on launched day Austin. Austin said he's been on top of that. There hasn't been Yeah, and sometimes they will, like threat, they will they will send out pre really drivers to go with games, and there has not been one for this one. You didn't get your game ready experience, not

yet. I assume that they would release drivers for this, but it's a big, big enough release that they would do something, I guess. But hopefully, hopefully this is not going to be a widespread thing or yeah, affect like anybody at all, because it is a completely fucking game breaking. I feel like I've dodged a bullet with this. Yeah, it kind of sucks having that like additional tension on top of, you know, the normal tension. Like I asked, Awesome, how because he you know, I

sent him that first Steam code we got ages ago. He played through it. He's been done with it for a week or something, and I asked him. I was like, oh, would you end up playing through it as? And he was like a Knight because that was the one class that didn't crash consistently breaking breaking report from this person on this very shifty discord discord Elite discord. He just played as the Night and it works fine. Oh man, everybody play a night. Don't play a night. I think I

usually play night play that's like the strong melee dude. Right, well, it's uh, it's kind of the balanced kind of one hand and shield guy. Can he throw a fireball? Because I'm playing well, I don't think I picked Pyromancer. I think I can do fireball if Yeah, anybody, anybody can if you get the pyromancy flame for them. But okay, I think if you throw were you able to throw a fireball at the very beginning of the game. I think maybe when you were a piromancer, did you

have a weinard really picked that? Maybe I don't think Piro a very popular choice in the first Maybe I did pick that then, huh. I would in fact, if you like solicited Twitter and said, hey, what should I play through Dark Souls ads, I bet some people would have said the Pyromancer. Huh. Okay, it's a it's a good fun class because you've got some basic projectile magic, but you also can just fall back to it's

a fun word to say to It is really fun. Promancer. And that's the one where you don't have to like a tune all this stuff, right, Like, don't you just always have the fire thing? And oh it's every time I go to Vonpire, I get like eight charges of my fireball all it changes from game to game, but yes, basically and one at least. Yeah, because it's based on like existing it's not like its own, like you know, faith based stuff is for you know, the cleric

stuff. Intelligence is you know, a magic user, but the pyromancy stuff is you know, based off of that stuff. Okay, then I think I am that because intelligence is the thing that you need for other spells, right, yeah, Okay, then I'm definitely not doing that shooting magic. Pyromancy is cool because there's a bunch of weird dark story stuff behind it. Yeah, Pyromancy is disdained by the rest of the populace, is like a

dark art. But yeah, I think the first abomination you get it's like kind of the light side, and then there is like a dark side to that. I found a pram the cleric. I found a pyromancy tone that my pyromancy and PC won't accept. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. It is too dark, too dark. Oh god, it's different. Yeah. If if even if even the guy who was cast out of society as an abomination won't view it, then what is wrong with

that? The lady I got reading the cleric tones to me, I brought her a couple. She's like, this is too dark, that the darkness and naws it dark Dark Souls three, the darkest Dark Souls ever. She's blessed. I have to give her Braille tones. Yeah, I got some of those. Interesting. That game is very, very good. Yeah, it is as a Dark Souls game, Like, if you like Dark Souls

games, you will probably have a fine fucking time with it. Like yeah, not really really well anything like above and beyond, like what they've done previously, lots of tweaks in refinements, and you've gone so far as to say that it's like the greatest It feels like the greatest hits album of Dark Souls to me, I can see that. I think maybe a better analogy might be, like it's a remix album. Yeah, I mean it's it's not note for note. I'm just getting more deja food than I'm like,

oh god, they just redid this. I'm not getting that feeling. We talked about this a lot on the Quick Look, and then I got some comments from people saying like, oh, you seem to hate the aspect of it that it's very highly referential to the previous games, Like I don't I don't hate that, it's just it's just it's jarring for this series, where like the two previous games and like Bloodbourne is the same, Like they're all the same way. They are like black boxes, right, like, yeah,

you don't know who any of the characters are. They speak in cryptic ways that don't tell you anything that's going on. Like until you have experience with these games, the mechanics don't make any sense, you know, like

absolutely, they're inscrutable and impenetrable. And then all of a sudden, here's this game where it's like one reference after another, and you know it's like, oh, I see a lot of that stuff is lost on me because yeah, I've I've let a majority of the narrative and the story just kind of go over my head. Yeah, you know, I'll seek it out if I really want to, but you know, the game does not do

a good job of explaining the story. Getting the new one that, yeah, that any of them, Yeah, yeah, the previous ones absolutely, You're totally right about that. This one. Do you want to? Breaking update from I've Searched Dark Souls three crash on Twitter there's kind of a lot happening here. Well, actually no, there's actually not that much today, but there are there definitely seemed to be reports on it. This guy says

he has one crashing character Creator three. Immediately after first Bonfire, I played Dark Souls on the hardest difficult, he says, Kevin Cameron five minutes progress system, crash, do it again? That is the hardest. That sounds that sounds like the problem. Yea, Bun Bun says, the first thing Dark Souls three did was fucking crash. I am done. And then some people referencing that we have had crashes, so it's actually there's there are not

that many tweets right now in this first forty five minutes. Oh boy, does it do the thing with the health system from two where if you die? Okay, I hated that thing. I knew that's what it absolutely doesn't. Okay, does it do the thing from two where enemies will go permanently? It does it? No, it doesn't do that. There is there is a health penalty to being quote unquote dead or undead, but it's not like chipped down like two, where the bar is constantly getting small. Hated,

I know it's nothing like, it's nothing that harsh. Okay, good. Uh the disapparing enemies, I don't know for sure. What did it take like twenty times or so for you to run in fifteen something like you forget the actual number. But yeah, I don't think this game does that. I don't think it's okays either. It sounds more like one and a few aspects then, and it seemed to have like, uh the stamina now, like I don't know if you remember it in like in two, like

they could just swing it's you constantly. But I've run into a number of circumstances where you know, somebody with a big weapon can swing three times and then they they're done. You know. Yeah that was a big problem. Yeah it's too for me anyway. But I just kind of generally the way the way I feel going through this game versus the previous games is like in the past, it would be like, you know, who the hell is that guy? And like what is he telling me? Like what is all

this shit? In this case, it's more like, oh, hey it's that guy. Oh hey, I'm doing this again, you know, like characters from the previous game. Yeah, like I'm skittish about what to talk about, because a ton of people yelled about boilers from last week. I don't think I could name a single character from any Dark Souls or Blood Born game. Andre I Reckon who was on the Blacksmith. Oh the big guy, Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah, So he's your Blacksmith and Dave the

bell Man don't remember him? No, you don't remember Dave. No shit man, He's everybody's favorite character. It's the best part of him. Yeah, that ring is pretty cool. He's pretty much just a reskinned version of Ricky from Demon Souls. Yeah, okay, yeah, Ricky was a real dick. Fuck Ricky. Yeah yeah, poisoned that poison cloud spells. I'm digging the combat yea, that means more refined. I like the weapon skills. It's been fun. It's actually actually I never used the weapon skills.

I probably should be finding more and more useless for him. As I was finding a little more unique types of weapons, like I found like a set of like two handed maces, as in, like you know, one in each wild and that'll give you some different like spin attacks. So I played. I tried to play Dark Souls the first first one when it came out. I tried to play it, Yes, put an hour and a half, two hours into it before just kind of going like, man, fucking

whatever. And then I tried to do the same thing with Dark Souls too, and got away from that even sooner. And then, for whatever reason, just the right timing or just the way this game started or something, something about Blood Born clicked in a way that the other the Dark Souls games did not, and I ended up playing quite a lot of that thing. Yeah, I think you got like just maybe around halfway through it or something something like that. A little bit further than that, you'll probably drop this

one a lot. Yeah, the wrong from a crash, Yeah, I got past wrong. Yeah you did. Okay, you were fighting that guy up on the roof I think last I saw you playing. Yeah, that's probably down the stake and then the Luck Souls came out. That's pretty far. Yeah, yeah I got there. I did that. Yeah, you got You got pretty deep in then. So, yeah, what do you think if if the reason that you liked Blood Born was the way that it

played differently from Dark Souls. The no I don't just play the thing is I don't know, because I I didn't play all right, I mean that badly. Play enough of Dark Souls one and two to know what it was. It's not necessarily the sidestep stuff that makes blood Born work for me. Did you like the guns? No? I actually didn't, and I think

I might actually there for a shield. The guns are weird and yeah, blood Born because they're not carry Yeah, they're not super use of or useful in an offensive capacity, right, They're just there to like trigger this pair. That's that's a cool concept. But I don't know. I got pretty good at lining those up with certain enemies, and then at some point I got just you know, I was doing so much damage with the other weapon I had that, Like, I just I found myself not even bothering to

learn the timing. Yeah, in most cases you don't have to if you get used to like where the invisibility is in the role or the dash just dash through a text pretty much. And that's how I started. That's how I started playing it, and didn't really use the gun much at all, to the point where I was just like this this maybe like this initially seemed like a really cool idea and the gun is maybe not that great. So I'm wondering if that if those feelings will kind of line me up for Dark

Souls three. Don't know a little bit. It's really hard to say. It depends on because they style. I guess it's very much plays for like you know, you know, a hand in each weapon and just like Slash through ship. Yeah, alright, it looks, plays, feels sounds is very much like Dark Souls mostly Dark Souls one, although there are some some maybe more oblique references to two, but very much just like oh, like

talking about character. We were talking about a lot of this stuff last week, but you know, characters are reprised and I don't want to say too much, but a lot of familiar stuff, yeah, which is what it is. It's just it's just different. I don't I don't hate it.

I don't hate that aspect of it. It's just very different for a series that has been just about like confusing you and wowing you at every turn, you know, to kind of go back to the well, yeah, it's a little bit like you know, oh man, real hot and cold on that. Really there's some really really interesting ones and I just did one last night and it was just like, really, but it's not having fun with it. Dumb. Yeah, the deacons. I'll just put that out there,

and Okay, I don't think I've gotten to that yet. Yeah, once people get there, they're like they'll know what I'm talking. Do you think the game seems like way more finishable or just way like does it seem easier because it's the third game or the fifth game and you want to look at it or whatever and that because you've gotten so used to this exact style and I'm like hearing it often kind of cruised through it and beat it like

before it was out and stuff. I was like, oh, well, I'm definitely like I've beaten one of the major bosses I beat on the first try, Like another major one I beat on the second try. Like that stuff was a little surprising to me. But I couldn't tell if it's because I've gotten more proficient or if it's actually easier. I don't know, right,

Yeah, I got back and forth again. Yeah, that's a couple that I you know, maybe one shotted and then there was one that I've really got stuck on for like a day and a half, but that was decent, like I don't know, weird reasons. Yeah, I will, I will say in terms of it being finishable, like it's it's like, at least to the point I'm at, it's like unflinchingly linear, which is

kind of surprising. It seems like maybe there's a less mystery, and I I'm trying to decipher from talking to people who have played it, if that's because people have played a lot of these games before and it's the same style of mystery, or if like you're saying, it's it's just it's it's a more linear game. Well, talking to people who have finished it, I'm now hearing things about areas I cruised through that I missed that I was like,

oh shit, I can go back there. Like there's a whole side area that I didn't even notice go through there, like I should out. Yeah, a lot from it, And there are side there are mechanics and little quest lines off to the side that are like as inscrutable as anything they've ever done. You know. It's like it's like, well, you got to talk to this guy and have him come back to your shrine, and then you talk to him when this happens, and he'll give you this.

But if you do it, if you wait until after you beat this other boss to do it, he will die. Yeah, Or if you do do it right, then there's other NPC you'll show up and then she'll sell you a thing. But if you join this other covenant, she won't want to talk to you, you know what I mean? Right, Like, there's still tons of that stuff in there, a lot of interpersonal relationships with the NPCs. There's definitely a conceptually crazy for definitely those NPCs usually say when

you talk to them in these games. All right, But but like in terms of the way the areas are arranged, and we again covered to some last week, but it's very much like you know, go through an area, beat the boss, like be teleported to the next area or funneled into the next area. But yeah, I did hear that that I'm I'm at twenty two hours and it sounds like I'm coming up on the point where there are suddenly multiple paths you can follow. Yeah. Yeah, there's one path

in particular that I completely missed. I have no idea that I could even get there, and i'd uh, yeah, I kept going through the game and is there a sage involved? Maybe Okay, that might be the same path that I Yeah, yeah, I totally missed that. Yeah, I

found that the sage yeah, much much later. Yeah. Yeah, and another part of that area talking to like Austin apparently did that part as soon as he found it and I missed it, and he was like, yeah, it was a bitch for me, but you're probably like over leveled for it at this point. Yeah. I summoned somebody and it was like it's

super easy. Yeah, but Austin Walker is on the case. And then he is he is finding more people talking about it on Twitter, and I told him, see if they have seven hundred series cards, so he's he's checking particular. Austin gonna put a luth had on get to the bottom of this thing. It's been vexing us for two weeks, outsourced QA, you've been waiting for I know we're on the case. I like, I think

I mentioned before. Yeah, Like I found a reproducible crash on the PS four version that I alerted NAMCO too, And like thirty minutes later a mass email goes out saying, we have identified an issue in the not since Kanan Lynch too have we been on the case. But QA, So that bug got fixed. I checked that bug got fixed, and the one or three patch that came out of right, and the performance stuff like the p F four version that I've been playing seems totally sound like and it looks good too.

Yeah, yeah, it looks good. You know. It runs like Bloodborne ran, like I mean, we're where but whatever, it's kind of chunks up a little bit here and there on par with console. Assuming this, yeah, assuming this crash thing gets resolved, like PC looks amazing, Like, that's definitely the one to play, aside from the one that goes so far as to say like definitely like they're they're pretty close. I think you think, I mean, you know, seriously before it runs at sixty

frames. Yeah, seeing it on seen it on UPF running that smooth and resolution, it seems like the thing that but like the definitive version, like I think it's totally fucking playable. Oh no, no, I'm not saying if if you want to play it on a console, it's totally follow sounds like maybe the Xbox version is a lower rough, but I wouldn't. I'm just saying, if you has to call it night and day or anything, if you have the option, you should play it on a nice Pcnyeah.

Sure, look nice. Yeah, watching you play it for about three minutes on Friday before it died. Right, man, it's a really good game. I am like really excited to end this podcast and go home and play some more of it. Oh yeah, me too, Like, and I'm having more fun with this one in particular because I'm finding more like mini bosses and just like more short term goals, so I can only play for like a limited amount of time. So that's been like super beneficial to me.

It's like, Oh, I'm gonna get enough souls to go buy this key this lady's selling and open up this passage and go see what's back there. Like oh fuck, I want to go fight that big dude O there? How do I do this? And then yeah, I'll spend like an hour doing it. It's like, okay, cool, I feel accomplished. I

had actually got something something out of this. I will say I almost feel like they took the criticism about blood Borne to heart about it not having enough different weapons and different types of weapons, because I feel like I have like thirty to forty eight weapons in my inventory right now. Yeah, I think as well, And just like I'm rippled within decision about which one is to

upgrade because there's so many of them. I've I've been kind of shooting myself in the foot because you know, a lot of those weapons are not nearly as good as like my starting one that i've I've you know, I put a gem into you. I you know, put a bunch of fucking you know, a tight night into it and upgraded it and and it's doing burly ass damage. But it's like, I want to branch out a little bit.

That's the badass way to play game. And I feel like people fucking talk shit about that, but whatever, man, fucking I'm not talking shit about BioShock. Like that's the just fucking upgrade the wrench man. Stop sucking around like with you and wrenches. But fucking that's how you fucking play Ratchet Man. That that's how you fucking play as the unarmed guy in the game. Because they've give them all kinds of weird fist stuff. By the end of the game, you know, like, is there really in this one?

Wow, like fist there are there are fists where there are crazy fist weapons, yes see, but like a lot of that stuff, it's like, Okay, well, maybe I'll upgrade it. A little bit to see if it's even comparable, and I'm not seeing any Like that's a situation where I'd want to like actually go out on the internet and find some fucking you know, bar graphs and you know, trying to do the calculations. But before I invested all that ship, those upgrade tables exists. I have seen

them, have they? I mean it launching in Japan early, it's seated the internet with a wealth of information. Often has received one response from someone saying they're using display port and a seven eighty oh man are and they are crashing? Yeah, so it's that's that seems like that's the new thing. For a while, there was a HDMI thing. Yeah, are we ready to upgrade this to working theory? Working theory is that this is something to do with cards in the seven hundreds. That seems to be what we have

observed. Has anybody tried converting to VGA yet? We should try it over a steam Link? Yeah? I wonder what that would even its connect the monitor. I played actually a little bit via steam Link over the weekend. Yeah, runs good, good experience. Yeah, as long as you got a local connection for sure. But it was fine. Get that hard Line, little leg whatever. Man, I'm trying to think. It's like navigating a minefield of what are people going to think? Is too much to hear

about this game? I don't know. I mean, that's probably plenty of talk about I guess. I mean, I really it looks amazing. It's one of the best looking in the series. Some of the new environments are really like fucking breathtaking, dude, there is there is one particular. There's

one, yeah, you know which one I'm talking about. There's a point where you just like you beat a boss, you walk up some stairs and walk out of a cave onto this skyline and it was like it was literally, like it sounds dumb to say, jaw dropping, but it was very much a mouth hanging open, like wow, that is some art. Yeah, like that is a put down the control them. Yeah wow. But you can't say for sure if this is any harder, any easier than the

previous games, or I really it's such a if. The changes seems smart though from what you said, yeah, well, they've added a lot of stuff. They've added a lot of complexity and systems to the way the weapons upgrade and what their you know, their side abilities Doka even stuff like uh, you know, like like two had the thing where you know, the bosses drop specific souls that you can either cash in for a ton of souls or turn into crazy weapons. Yeah, but you didn't really know what those

weapons could be. Like there's just a vendor now that will that will let you trade in your boss souls for like here's the crazy weapons you can get, yeah, from the outset, which is kind of Yes, so they they make explicit some things that were like kind of things you had to wiki

before. Yeah. Yeah, I guess it's I feel like like you knew, like you could go to that vendor and say, hey, hey, I've got this gem here's and he'll be like, here's what I can make for you, and maybe so and too maybe that's the case, but regardless, Yeah, it's cool having that from from the get go. Yeah, some of the enemies are I don't want to say smarter, but like some of their I'm having a tougher time in this game, Like I don't want to go as far as to say that, like the game is harder.

Yeah, but I'm getting more of that feeling than I like I did in the first game, where It's just like you get your ass fucking kicked when you first get to an area for quite a while, and then you will eventually feel like a badass afterwards. Whereas in like Dark Souls Too, I felt like if I was just being careful, I didn't really have to learn too many patterns and stuff. I felt a little more powerful on that one. Like that one is a little bit easier, but yeah, I'm definitely

getting man my tushie kicked. Yeah, in this one, they do some creative stuff with like enemies. But there's one part where the enemy spawns are like almost hilarious in a way. There's a couple of spots where enemies fighting other enemies is used in a in a kind of clever way, Like there's some some neat little scenarios here and there that are worth seeing. Yeah, there's there's a lot of variety in there, even if it's it's like highly

highly aware of its predecessors. Let's see you guys buying the cool t shirts. Yeah, in these sweet shirts that they made. Love seeing these they made shirts. Dank memes, No, only the dankest. They took an Oli Moss design from years ago. There was on like Tea Spring or on you know, on on No One not Tea Spring, thread lists or something I want to say where it was a bunch of spoiler stuff for movies all

kind it's all the text. Yeah yeah, yeah. They made a Dark Souls version of that that just like has like this large list of just like here's some ship from Dark Souls and it just doesn't form like the image of a thing from Dark Souls. No, okay, it's just a bunch of text. Yeah, let's put text in like like like visual elements right two with it too, and it's like the Sun yeah okay, yeah, yes, there's probably a praise of the Sun dropped in there. There's a death

counter, there's a there's a message there. It's a nice chest ahead, even though it should have been like what amazing chest ahead? Is there? The real Dark Souls starts here. I think they actually stopped short of that, okay, okay, and just an arrow pointing down yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yes, no, it's always good to have. Yeah, I mean whatever, like that thing is not great. But they really assaulted the earth with their like hype campaign for it. Oh yeah, before they

tweeted out its specifically out of Namco UK right or banded Namco. You can. It's like we got some big news, like here's this fucking dumb shit, like like I don't even give a fuck about Dark Souls a lower or

anything like that, but I look you still. You look at that and you're like, man, you could have made all these awesome black metal looking fucking shirts with all this imagery and all this like crazy insane story stuff that Dark Souls is known for, and instead you chose to fucking slap together the memiest bullshit you could find. I think there's some other merchant and a design

that is not even yours. Yeah, Like it's just real fucking and then they break some of those individual images out and sell them on several shirts. It's it's a it's a bad fucking scene. But you know, like like like pre tweeting about that just gave people a night to go like, oh, they're gonna finally do like Dark Souls one remaster or whatever, just like all kinds of you know, actually exciting things that's gotta be come to pass.

I wonder if if they all like as soon as they sent those if they as soon as they started promoting that they had something to announce with Dark Souls the following day and saw that reaction. They were like, oh, we should we should have thought this through. We fuck up because when we come through and say we got shirts for sale, it's gonna be a fucking blood bath. Oh well, at least the game is really good as a

quick as i'd like. In on the flip side to those shitty T shirts, Meat bun uh sells really fucking awesome Dark Souls T shirts like they're in the like the style of like tarot cards. Yeah, that license. So if you're looking for awesome Dark Souls shirts, please please go there. Check those out. I always like that name. That's your plug, Meat Bun, Meat Bun. There's another seven seventy on dv I crashing that Austin has encountered. Yeah, I'm asking somebody about it. We are going to corner

the market on Google SEO for Dark Souls seven seventy crashes. There's been three another three tweets to my search of Dark Souls crash. Okay, this with this guy says, hahaha, I just got that exact fucking crash to desktop. The Giant bomb got what approaching the first bond five and Dark Souls three lucky you. Uh. This other person says, Okay, I'm going to bed to read a book. Dark Souls three is just a crash factory.

So I it seems this does not seem super widespread because I'm literally talking about five tweets in the you know, hour since release. This seems like it would be way more widespread if it were. It seems like there would be a lot more people complaining about it if it was way widespread. But that's still a real problem, definitely, and our working theory of seven seventies seven eighties cards like that being the issue. I think that that's been the one.

The one is the one completely consistent variable across this whole thing, right, is that the video card has always been a seven hundred series on every machine. Yeah that we've had the crashes on, we are still available for higher Well, you know we've got and we've got that six seventy. We've got that six seventy on that machine near our desks. Just try it on that, ye see what happens. Apparently there's a Windows XP box somewhere on this it's right, it is trying to find it. That was amazing.

Zombie XP machine Dan before it came around the other day, go like, you guys, know where there's in that Windows XP machine running around like it has been like trying to trace the IP to find it because it's rogue and they don't update those things for security anymore, and it's gonna poison our network. Shouldn't it just shouldn't They should be able to figure out what poored it's hooked up to is like that way, we're just block it or just block

the port. Somebody could plug it intother port if they found it. Yeah, I suppose, but I think, oh man, we should find that XP machine. Yeah we should just we should launch it or know what we should do. We should vestigation and more XP machines and sneak them in here and plug them in and weird into weird unused offices and stuff like that. I was just really making crazy machine. Could we like run XPN Oh probably on a like a like a computer on a stick or respberry pie style thing.

Right, it's like, well up in the ceiling, baby, I don't know if XP would. We're just gonna burger our own ceiling. But with XP machines, I haven't run off of Wi Fi and they're like, oh, we don't hide them all over this place. Man, just building will be rotten with Windows XP. I would love to do that. That would that would be really good. Play Dark Souls three if you like Dark Souls, it is excellent shoot out. Uh anybody play Enter the Gungeon? Yeah a little bit. Yeah, Yeah, that game is cool. I

like that game. It's except that I'm not sure the shooting has clicked for me yet. Well, you know, it seems like the one thing that that's a game I get. I get the feeling that they made a deliberate choice to not have an aiming radical, and I feel like that game would really benefit from one. I kind of agree. There's nothing in the options

for that. No, well, if you're playing, if you're playing with the mouse and keyboard, it's a different story because it would have I don't know, but I think so, I'm not sure, but I don't know. There's a slider on PS four for like the auto Yeah. Yeah, so I turned that all the way up on PS four, but then I ended up I ended up playing with a controller on on PC. I should have grabbed the mouse and seeing what it did. But I played various builds

of that. I want to say that there's totally radical if you're playing with a mouse, but because you would have to because if you have to aim somehow right, Well, you could just use the mouse to control the gun. Which way the gun? That seems like it would be bad. Well that's what it does on the console. Like that's the only way you can tell. Well, but you know what you're pointing at the right analog stick at least. Yeah, that's a little anyway, or they have like a

visible cursor the entire time. I would think I would think it would have a visible cursor with a mouse. Yeah, that would take place, But I don't redical Yeah, okay, anyway, I can't say for sure one way or the other. I know it's I know it's a balancing thing because it's a game all about getting better guns constantly. Yeah, but like something about the way the default guns handle not quite there. Well, it's it's the enemies take a lot of hits with that default weapon and even kind of

the more kind of basic weapons you start getting early on. Uh, it just takes a few more shots than it feels like it should, like down like the blue shotgun shell stuff. Shots are relatively slow. Yeah, there's some travel on your own bullets and stuff like that. Yeah, as far as like upgrades like faster shooting, speed or and it's all types of ship. Dude, there must be like how many guns do you want to do

you want to shoot out? Do you want to shoot out the back at the same time you shoot out the front, because there's there's upgrade for that. I had that when I had food poison. Yeah, no, no, that this gives you that like very multiple bullets per shot. Like all there are the word bullet the yes, the yes and lowercase are that shoots the word bullet out every time you pull the trigger is in that game as a gun. But yeah, like the passive upgrades in that game, if

you and that's what you're is that what you're shooting for? I guess like temp unattended. But if you're getting the right upgrades, like you are becoming like you are emitting so much fucking hot death out of both ends that the type of you can't even like that even the PC version of the game will slow to a fucking crawl because you are just you are launching fucking straight up murder on a NonStop basis. And the game cannot handle it, but the

burners being launched right back at you. Yeah, yes, yeah, all right, so this is like the kind of a bullet hell is what I saw it. Yeah, they're definitely pattering Joystick Shooter roguelike, you know, in a similar vein to something like Binding of Isaac. You see you see some Isaac in this game. For sure. You see a little bit of Nuclear Throne in this game as well. Some people are trying to say like it's like dark Souls, like, well, the roles, the roles.

One thing, like the tutorial straight up says like the first half of the role is invincible. But then you're not, like, like that that's never been done before. Jez. Yeah, and that's anyway. Yeah, they have a lot of stuff that references other games in there as well. But yeah, it's uh, it's well made. Yeah, it's got a good look. Yeah I was, I was. Yeah, there's some really excellent pixel art animation in that game and some some just the way things move an

anime is really impressive. A little bit of camera issues with boss fights where they'll go off screen and talk about the co op for sure. Yeah, the cops weird because the cop character is limited to the cultist, Like there's one character that you can play when you're the cop character, and it's super not obvious that like that is how you even start co op in the quick look had a hard time, like wait a minute, what okay? And it's local yeah, locally. Yeah that's kind of a bummer. Yeah,

it's not unexpected. But at the same time, yeah, it would be great to see more games just get on the internet, because I don't have people in my house that don't want to play Enter the Gungeon with or period, but there are and people in the house that want to play Enter the Gungeon with me. That's true. Is actually the right anyway the right answer there you guys making any like real prior progress yet I've been on the third

floor a few times. Is that third floor of the I don't I don't know how long the game is or how much it is five floors, but is it just the five floors or is it like it is five floors? But you should play it again because there's stuff, there's like a there are persistent unlocks and persistent items that you find, like I didn't know if you I didn't know if you did those five floors and then move on to like another set of five floors and then it's and that's just that's just it.

Yeah. Interesting. So I haven't made it past the second floor yet, so but yeah, there are there are items you need to collect to build a weapon along the way that will then be the thing that you use to finish it. For real, I think is that the Gungeon? Are you building the Gungeon? No, you are in the gunge that can kill the pass. I don't know what the name of it is, okay, because you have to build it. So I thought it was more like Enter the

Dragon. No, it's it's it's more literal than that. When you open up the shop and stuff like, they start talking about No, they throw the guns down in the Gungeona Korean Abdul Jabbar is like in one of the bosses. All right, yeah, okay, yeah, it's it's a weird. It's a weird game. I don't know. Yeah, it's neat, it's cool. I want to play more of it. Just dark Souls happened and I had to put it down. But it's still happening, Brett.

I know that Gungeon will be around. Nice to have a roguelike to just pop into whenever you feel like it, you know, like Necro Dancer was that for me for quite a while. I started, yeah, something you just like, I'm gonna just do a couple of runs and sit down for twenty minutes after I get home before dinner. They did like three times at the Rogue Legacy on different systems, Like that's great. It's just it's yeah, it's good to have something you can just pop off for twenty minutes and

be done with. I kind of want to play Rogue Legacy again. It's great. It's still great. I've gone through three times now, and it's so much fun. Every time. I had a great time when I finishing him. Every time I didn't do the like Superboss stuff, like you know when you fight him again in that weird alternate world or whatever. But I think I've beaten it three times. I've gotten to what is his name? Is it Alexander? The name of the giant skeleton from the end of the

second world in that game. All right, wait, I forget which one is the eyeball? Yeah, and get the second guys, I got I've gotten too on both I got on PC NPS four, I got to that giant skeleton thing at the end of the second world and just put it down both times whatever reason. I don't know why that's my cutoff point. Huh.

It gets cool as you get all those different ruins and equipment pieces and stuff, so you can decide, like, well I went two jumps and then one dash and then you know all those different things you canna equip. Yeah, totally all right. I think that's it for games I've been playing. Anybody else got anything that Battle Born Open Beta? Right, Well, I only played that one match on Friday, and I played one match on Friday as well, which maybe it's running all week. We should maybe spend

more time with it. Worse, that game is almost out, so it didn't necessarily inspire me to want to spend more time with it. Yeah, in terms of what that thing is, I don't know. It's just this. I don't I don't care about the MOBI is the same way you do. But I definitely agree with you that there are things about that game in terms of like situational awareness and stuff where there's like a lot happening, especially you played the character with the big chain gun, where it's like, here's

a full third of the screen taken up with arm and gun congratulations. Yeah, and everything just feels so claustrophobic, like if it's an FV thing. It didn't help with that character is super slowly. Even the aiming seems to be tuned to be very slurged, the damage she's putting out and stuff. But yeah, I don't know, man, like that just I am more of a fan of shooters than I am of MOBAs and that game. The times I've played it, well it's been in development over the past year,

it has not made me want to engage further. But I keep coming back to it and going like, well, like like I want to see what they're doing, Like what it is about this that they're doing this instead of making a you know, Borderland's three or you know or something else. What is it that makes this hobby grade? What is it? Yes? Yeah?

Sure, yeah? Yes? What is it about this that was like you know that it got announced with such fan fair and is it really just getting its lunch completely eaten by stuff like Overwatch and and to some extent like Paragon or something like Well, those are two interesting examples because like Overwatch is a pure yeah, Overwatches, like all the way on one end and all

the way. Yeah. Right, and this game seems to be trying to split the difference but not necessarily capitalizing on the strengths of either right, either genre. Yeah, I mean even even something like a Monday Not Combat or something seemed like just better at executing. Yeah, this style, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Man Like, like we were saying, people are going to keep trying to chase that Mobi money, keep trying to chase some kind of esports money, that hobby grade

money. There's still a lot of it out there. But yeah, I don't know. I'm chasing that me Tomo money. That's not a game. Three more, I can't talk here and me Tomo Drop is a game. So I got my pancake suit. John on John on Twitter says Dark Souls three PC players unequip your shield before approaching the first spontfire to avoid the crash. The desktop is becoming a thing with work rounds. Now, this is actually happening. What are you running a Twitter search? Yeah? My Twitter

search is Dark Souls Crash. That's pretty good. E Partamente ten Crash No Primari Bonfire dov Versal Final do Dark Souls three? All right, there you have. I think that's Portuguese definitive word. I bet this. I'm probably pronouncing all that right right, Sure, yeah I could. I can vet Dark Souls three bugs to hit me after five minutes of play, first save point broken, slash disabled, exit save, then causes PC crash. Seriously. Yeah, it's happening, damn it. I'm gonna I'm gonna do it.

I'm gonna go to the I'm gonna go to the steam form. Put your crashes in here, reads this forum thread. Title says nothing but heart's in there game crashing. Mm hmm. Yeah. Let's see mine crash after we use the first bonfire and crashed again at the same place. So I've got a hybrid. Crashes up first bonfire, first bonfire for me, same first bonfire, same for me. Crashed at first bonfire. That's like six posts. First bonfire, same at first bonfire, crashed five times. Now

first bonfire got two first bonfire, crashed first bonfire twice. We'll see, we will see. And yet they knew about this. Yeah, yeah, it may just be one of those things that's really hard to Maybe they narrow down exactly what's causing it or something. Yeah, I hope it's I hope it's not a thing. Like I'm not trying to like, I mean, obviously people need to know if this is happening, but like the game is really good, and I hope that they would get it fixed. Yeah,

chuck, because people should play it. So how much time are you spending with Matoma? I get my daily bonus every day, I get my game tickets in my gold I gotta get my popularity and style levels up. I'd think around there, I'd like to see who's active, play a little bit of me. Tomo drops So I mean, I'm not playing like an hour a day, but I'm loaded up for fifteen twenty minutes. You know, a land bed and just reads answers answer a few things. It's charming and

weird in a tom adout you life Nintendo weird ask kind of way. What kind of questions are they asking? Just like, oh God, it does weird stuff, like it trolls you with one it says the question it asks you is okay, imagine a field of flowers in your mind. How many flowers do you see? And people will put stuff like seven or a billion or infinite numbers, and then when it shows you other people's answers, like Jeff, let's say you said seven, like how many flowers you see?

When it says it to me, it's like, oh uh, Jeff answered the question how many people do you want to date in your life? And he said seven? Well, no, that's not what they say. They say like that flowers, the question about that flowers blooming question, that that thing exists outside of me, Tomo. That question, what do you mean? That question is a is a real life thing it, you know, but it says the question about the flowers blooming, question about how many people

you want to why? And presented that way because it's something that like happens, like that question exists outside of me, Tomo. They didn't just dream it up for this, like the flowers blooming in your mind equates to a number of people. You're just like a phrase or that's yeah, that that exists. Oh well I've never heard that. And I saw a ton of comments on stuff like you're a married man, why do you say you want to date a million people? Yeah? Yeah, weird. That's that's because

that thing's fucking dumb. That's why. It's because me tomos it in a good way. A fucking chump's game. Man, that thing is a scam. It's a funny in three months when it's asking you like, what are the last four digits? If you're Social Security card, like, you're gonna see the fucking real aim of me Tomo. You're too distrustful of corporations, dude, it's still there for fun. Are you more likely to buy Ego brand wall? Yeah, it's not right. Like this thing seems like it

is fucking halfway to market research. They're not data mining. It's a fun stuff. It's literally like, what what book or movie have you liked recently? A fun discussion that they can then sell later. I don't think it's that in the city is. I think it's just fun with silly mees. When was the last time I felt deeply moved? And what moved me? Also like this is this This game has taught me a couple of things. One, it's like, as far as much as I like my friends,

I don't give a fuck what they think about any of this shit. It's like, what do you think of when you think of the word ninja? I don't fucking care. That's the Oh the voices are silly and fun, and you can just tap through and it'll just like it'll roll these things out like over and over again, about like all your friends answering the same questions over and over again. It's like, here's what nine people I know, at various levels of intimacy saying things about like the word ninja, what about

the fun? What about the me photos of the day? They're always silly. I've just started making mine super stupid. Okay, I've just started, like I like those, writing crip crazy over all of them and putting them out like I don't know. I also kind of stopped playing it at one point, deleted all my answers, and then like I saw people kind of getting into it. This is last week. I saw people starting to get into it a little deeper, and I was like, all right, well,

I'll give it another shot. So I started re aanswering those questions and then going a little more, going a little more, and I was like, Nope, fuck, this this thing's actually terrible. I guess what is the harm? Even if they are like do you like Ego brand waffles? Like, who gives a shit? It's not it's not like you know, the pay me for that. I'm not I'm not giving that shit away for free. That's my premit. I'm not gonna endorse fucking products for Nintendo.

They're not like taking a screenshot and putting it on the waffle box. Not yet. They want you to do that. Yeah, you're doing it for them. They can day to mind this shit out of me. I have no problem. No, I know it's I'm well aware that you want to interact with brands full time. I love brands. I know, I know there are brands that I like. What's my favorite TV show right now? Yeah, exactly what that is one of them? What's your favorite TV show

right now? That's the thing people talk about. That's a great thing that you could sell the TV companies and say, hey, hey, you know sixty percent of people said something that is not actually airing on television. The chord cutting is real. Like, there's a lot of fucking real data that they could get out of this stuff. But then what's the harm in that? I just don't understand how that hurts you as a user. They should

be way more upfront about all of that stuff. If that's they're intend to use it, if they're deliberately saying we are not going to use it this way. They should be out there saying it not in some long terms of service, right, just straight up say here's what we do with the data we collect. Okay, my guy's naked and he's doing pirouettes and that's kind of see it's funny. No, it's it's just one of those things where like I can sit there and tap through it and it's like, this is

great, it's passing time. I don't care about any of this. And then ask me a question. I go like, fuck you, who are you to ask me that video game? I happily give it my answer. That thing just seems to know is a giant, cold, calculating profit making apparatus. They're a fun factor that exists to serve its shareholders and fun factory, meaning like a Plato fun factory. Like they just ooze out star shaped stuff all the time, and you're just like, this is like poop,

but it's like a star poop. Sorry, sorry, star Fox. Nintendo's not your friend. I like Nintendo. What do you think about the word grin Nina? That's stupid, that's stupid. Alright, make sure we can agree on at least one on premier crash Sir Dark Souls three operate thirty minutes. Desu oh dude trop cool says you say, sweet pass dude out objective. Can we trans translate bonfire into like all languages? Yes, we should make that a meme T shirt. Just crash it first bonfire in every language.

I got way too deep into this thread while you guys were arguing about me. Tomo there, Okay, I'm on page eighteen now five times at first bonfire, first and second bonfire crashed. The first bonfire, Uh, I just went around the water and it didn't crash. From that shifty disc chord full of Roy's boys friend is reporting a lot of crashes on a seven eighty. Somebody, somebody in the thread hit on the same solution Vinnie found of if you drop all the graphic settings to low, it doesn't crash.

When we had an happyf there was a weird like invisible wall like before that bonfire that we tried walking into. It eventually let me through and then a crash. I think that was actually just something like it wasn't invisible wall. There was just if you saw there was a little lip on that yeah, ground texture like it seems like I don't know if that was related to the crash. It seems like that's that's maybe like a bad surface or I feel

like i've nah, I walked over that service before. Yeah, it felt off to me for sure. Anyway, Okay, who the fuck knows? Don't walk as ye, don't just walk around the fucking just don't use a bonfire, like, what's wrong with you? Just don't get a seven hundred series in video card. Just go buy a new video cards? What are you doing? Man? Just don't save or Hei makes video cards. Just don't save or heal your whole way through the game. Maybe your mother board

has sweet onboard graphics. You could just go with that. Never sit at a bonfire, just no scope of that game. That's wrong with you. Let's talk about news. There was next to no news this week. I have two headlines headlines in quotes. All right, because here is the most headline of headlines that I have. Remember Evolution Studios, makers of Drive Club, Yes, and how Sony shut them down? Code Masters has swooped in and not exactly like they didn't acquire the studio as such. More that,

like many of the people that are stuff together. It sounds like they have that. It sounds like they have extended job offers to the majority of that studio to remain a studio working on driving games. That's that's pretty great. Yeah, which is cool because I mean, you know, like Drive Club was what it was, but like that, a motor Storm a studio pumps. They've did some some solid work over the years. People, Yeah, when's the last when's the last motor Storm Apocalypse? Yeah? I think so

that sounds right. There was the one they had to delay because it was right at the time of the tsunami. Was that Pacific wasn't motor Storm, Pacific Rift wasn't Maybe the timing was pretty terrible. Storm Pacific RIM would be awesome. It was Pacific, it wasn't Pacific Rim was thought was good. And the other one, Yeah, there's motor Storm, then there was Apocalypse I think, and then maybe yeah Pacific Rift is yeah, it's before apocalypse.

Okay, okay, So that was motor Storm RC is technically the last they did four motor Storms. That was the Vida game. She's there was like an RC. I don't know if they didn't. Yeah, that that's our that's motor Storm RC for p S three and Vita. Did they develop that? They did? They apparently did? I think gets played Arctic Edge for psp PS two. Okay anyway, yeah, code code Masters shoring up

there development of Driving one. Viny Caravella reports new threat on Steam. Dark Souls three Prepared to Crash edition is the title of it, and rough. Yeah, we'll see developing stories. Stay tuned. Uh. Mike Hacking, the director of Evolution, gave a couple of choice quotes that they were a quote, very happy to be able to go forward and work on multiple platforms

and work on new IP. Yeah, that's probably I tried not multiple platform I tried not to read too much into that statement, but but yeah, hey they could make games for more than just Sony and more than just motor Storm. The crash fix of setting your lighting quality to low is starting to go around. Okay, all right, anyway, that's that's a bad solution, but it is a solution. Yeah anyway, Yeah, it's kind of a little feel good story there about. Yeah, that's cool that they stick

together. And also, I mean code Masters has been known for like really really caring about racing games, so yeah, yeah, I will be interested to see what that team does next. I wonder if they would go back and try to make something that was similar to but not using the IP name of motor Storm. I don't know, because there seemed to be a lot of people that kind of wanted that. Yeah, but Drive Club is definitely a more serious driving game than they had done in the past, right,

I mean, I can't speak. It's definitely not big motor Storm is flashy, drifty, crazy arcady style racing, which is not in vogue these days. But yeah, but it should be. Yeah type of driving game was big. Who's got the Rush License? Warner Brothers, you should do something with that. Who's got Blur Activism? Second? Yeah, that'd be Disney Okay, Right, there was like that run of crazy, wacky over the top there. Oh no, it's a lot of it's not more let's not

be crazy. Yeah. I thought it was a bad car combat game, but but it's it's like wipeout style, Like it's not arena car combat Full Out two. It's like Races had a lot of the a lot more of the arena stuff. I think. I think I could be wrong. There's flat out Yeah, I thought that's kind of a different thing. They had the weird things like giant dart board that you would have launched the driver at.

Yeah. I kind of like that zy type stuff like that. I was trying to find did didn't they have one other major ip that they worked on besides motor Storm and Drive Club Evolution? Let me or did I make that up? I can look? Let me look. Okay, I'm a clock here. They did the w RC games, so yeah, they were Yeah, they were acquired in O seven by Sony, so they had a history prior to Sony, prior to motor Storm where they were doing the World

Rally Championship games. Okay, so they got some driving shops for sure. Yeah, absolutely. All right, here is the only other headline that I have. How do you guys feel about a potentially undiscovered neo geo game coming to light? I think this is really exciting that was starting to go around today and how it came about as we came in here. Exciting. Yeah, like someone bought a board and thought they would like board. Geo fan Brian Hargrove, according to this story from d Gadget, Yeah, bought an

unlabeled ROM for six hundred dollars at a Japanese auction. Yeah, and hoping that I don't think it was. I don't know there was a Japanese auction. I want to see you've got it somewhere weird, hungry or something. I don't know. Anyway, this story says Japanese auction. But but six hundred bucks seems like a lot for an unlabeled rom that might be full of garbage. But if you're looking at that thing, you know it's like a

this is like a prototype neo geoboard. You know, it's something weird and also like So that's the stuff with Maime is that so many arcade boards are commonplace now to the people that have been looking at them that way for so long that people in that scene, when they see something they don't recognize or something that they know might be a prototype, they go like, well, we need to get this so we can preserve it. So they're buying it

with that in mind. Okay, so he was he probably had an expectation that he would easily make that back. No, no, no, is he one of the people in this scene. Okay, never mind, he's not just a middleman, no no, So so it seems like he picked this thing up, and certain aspects of the program code were stored on like s RAM cards that go bad, so it had like literal like watch batteries that we're dead and so like sound and like the fonts and stuff like that

were on these cards. Man. But anyway, so he started looking into it, and it looked like the ram IDs and stuff like all the neo geo stuff has kind of a set a set id and itched mashed up with like Voltage Fighter, gau Kaiser or something, and so he was like, oh, well, maybe this is a gau Kaiser prototype, I don't know whatever, and kind of threw it aside and then started sucking around with it a little bit more, got it to boot up, noticed a menu that

he had not seen in any other things before. Doug a little deeper and suddenly found a fighting game like playable missing a lot of stuff because these these other rams are not there right to provide sound and fonts and all that sort of ship, but was able to get it to boot. And they don't know the name of it because the fonts are gone or something, or maybe

there's just no title screen in the program at all. Do you know if do you know if that means the actual text is gone or just the fonts that the text actually is that if they find a replacement, so they have they have hacked a font onto it and at least got like menus and at least got like character names and stuff like that. So character names show up you when you pick character. You pick like basically chaotic, neutral or good. Yeah, like people like alignments. This story is super weird. The

story is basically dragon. Yeah. The story is speculating that this actually was like the an early form of a D and D fighting game or something. It could be just stretch. I don't know that s in K or a DK or anybody that would have been I don't know that they would have had that license. Yeah, was a stranger too, like playing around with aspects of other people's IP back then that maybe they were fiddling with that stuff.

Yeah without the license. Yeah, everything that I thought I wasn't like really saying D and D to me, other than the alignment. But yeah, there's footage of it running out right now. So it looks neat, it looks like a prototype, it looks unfinished, and there's no life bars or anything like that, because that all that stuff got lost in the dust. That's I think I think they. I saw some mother footage that did have

send timer up on top of it. Looked like super placeholders. Thus, I don't know if they just so maybe they're fobbling it together or any anyway in some form. So this then got sent on to hey Is David Heywood, who's part of the main team, and then it is making its way into main Oh wow, so it'll be out there, and then it means that people can fuck with it. Jeesus at some point that's unexpected, and they're trying to get this thing out there for people to see it so that

eventually someone who worked on it can step forward. Here's what this was because they don't know. Yah, that's it's wild to not even have a name for this thing. Damn. I think it's just sitting here on this rom board for the last twenty six years. Yeah, that's that's super exciting stuff like that turns up. That's cool. Yeah for sure. Sorry, I'm just giving this story to see if there's any other kind of pertinent details.

Didn't didn't SMK get sued by Capcom over all the fighting games that got sued by somebody, right, probably I don't. I don't know. I'd swear there was like that sounds I swear some litigation took place over the street Fighter clones. No, that was that was data each with Fighter's history, cap on with them over Fighter's history, because like the one guy had like a CD spin projectile move that looked just like a sonic boom And was that a

near ger game? No, that was just an ourcasecade They came to snass eventually gotten that stuff next time. And it's so I actually saw some of the tapes that got presented as evidence in that thing where it was Capcom making these tapes comparing Wow, comparing elements. Man, I want to see those tapes. Two elements of Fighter's history. I'll talk to I'll i'll see if those still exists. Do you get a line on those? I know who to ask. Oh, yeah, I know who to ask about it.

So I'll check the man you try, don't check you were there for this. I recently became aware that I was in possession of something like an old prototype piece of software that somebody very badly wanted to get their hands on. Yeah, and I had no idea i'd had any value whatsoever. I don't remember what this is. I'll tell you later, Okay, I don't even know if I was supposed to say, it's not even a big deal, right, yes, yeah, it seemed like any kind of a big deal.

It was just like a little one off CDR I have from the ran on a PS two D bug right for something dumb. Yeah, I see there's a little event that thing I didn't even know existed. I had not heard of it. I hadn't thought about it in ten years or something, And and he happened to mention they was looking for it, and I was like, oh, I've got that in a CD wall out of my house, and you're like he was like, holy shit. Yeah, game preservation

is weird. There's a lot of stuff floating around out there, Yeah, that somebody wants to get their hands on at all times. Yeah, for sure. I've got a weird like prototype version of what Phantom Breaker. I

think that didn't get brought out to the US here. Yeah, like yeah, like it was a completely mocked up box like art and everything, like he's put it out at a printer and uh yeah, It's just the type of thing you get your hands on when you work in the press and end up with like early versions of games that don't necessarily come out in that five games with like a claim license at like a claim business information on it that then got published by like THHQ, Like what juiced the Driving game? Yeah,

that they were going to publish that. I think. I think THQ eventually published Choose Shoosed Juice. But like, who cares? Because A it's juiced and many of the differences. It says a claim on it. Somebody cares? Yeah, I mean no, I mean I promise you it's worth it's you know, it's in safe hands. Yes, but yes, I should. I should make a copy of that disc because it's a ten year old CDR you definitely, or DVDR on I guess it would have been a DVD. I don't even seen it such it was. It was, it

was, it was. It was a tiny little demo. Yeah, just check on that. All right, let's move on to the emails. Then that was it for news. Titan faul to us? Is that new? I mean, I mean, but like they put out a teaser, that's all they'll say more. I mean, like they they they're gonna say Titan Fall two. It's happening. But I mean also they have talked about it,

like respond has talked about titan Fall two so in public before. Yes, but the only the actual new the actual new information here is that they're calling it titan Fall two because they Zampella was kind of wishy washy on if that was gonna be the title, that swear they had used those ones, and it is PS four, Xbox one, and PC, which they will be multiplatform before. But this is at least them nailing down platform swords.

Yeah, that the teaser has like a sword going into the ground at one point from a human hand or wait a minute, all right, still going that direction with the mets. It's still no, these are not the you see the mech kind of stomp up and it is not a Mecca looking like lithe little style. It's like, I don't know if you get to have it both ways. Yeah, I don't know. You've either got your your

giant anime ninja robots or you're walking tanks. I'm not sure. Yeah, I was kind of thinking, wouldn't it might be neat if this game was like, you know, Titans in the traditional sense versus Yeah, like Gundam, dude, just to straight up the East meat West. Yeah, like you're like new Faction enters the scene, here coming, here, come the Mecca out of Japan against the fucking bipedal tanks the Western military industrial complex. But I just don't okay, I mean you could balance that. I just

don't played if it'd be fun a good specific rim game. Yeah cool, okay, keep saying sure, Yeah, all right, I'm on board. I am fully on board with that. Emails. Yeah, I've got a bunch of emails here, let's go through some. The first one comes in from Nathan in Ottawa. It's definitely my favorite email of the week, so I just decided to start the email of the mail of the email of the week. Thanks Nathan. Video Games CEO Battle Royale. If we threw the

top video game company CEOs into a cage, who would emerge victorious? I think my money would be on Bobby Kodick, as he strikes me as a guy who was willing to pull hair and kick groins to win at all costs. Brass nuts Strouss's Elnick seems like he could cause some damage to I think, Yeah, that's a good that's a good dark horse pull. Yeah, that is I would just maybe not strauss Elic. But then what motherfucker is Reggie Possibility? Oh yeah, of course he's a big dude. Yeah,

Reggie is an imposing figure. He would definitely get in there and do some just some. Is he a CEO or is he the president? He's the president of Okay, you think we'll counting him for this purpose? Or figure heads? Anybody who him see as a press conference? I think yeah, belongs in this category. Does Jack Tretton still count a fuck? Man?

Phil Harrison? Because Jack Tretton Tretton just pulls out the snub nose. It just does everybody and just like like all right, you know I'm just like yeah, yeah, sure, oh man, now I now I really want my my Dave Lang. Oh I don't know, I've never have you ever seen Dave Lang fight Jeff? I feel like you must have it? No, No, I guess I guess Lang does just belong in this discussion, doesn't he. Yeah, he's a video game video games. He has a lot of energy, and he's a large man. It's true he can take

punishment and keep going. I've seen that scares babies. I've seen that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he made your baby christ several times. Yeah, yeah, I could see. I bet, I bet Reggie can just channel like a rage and a fury. Yeah, that such that the fists don't stop flying Canadian pizza hut fury sure, just puts his head down and charges. Just just just take that, take him down to the mat.

No. But if you just look the guy with the beard in the background, ducks it right at the moment, right, just the right moment, and you can get Reggie down. It's not a problem. You just gotta ten point timing. Yeah. Trying to think who else belongs in this in this cage match, I think Bobby Kodak would be we would fight dirty. He would he would have like a knife that got dipped in gasoline or something. They would just be like motherfucker's fully with Nathan here on that one code

will win at all costs. Uh m hm. Any other candidates moving on. Homer would probably be barefoot, right, Yeah, there's the barefoot guys. They're barefoot because they like to kick. Yeah, that's kicking the octagon. So that's because that could be pretty serious. I feel like Phil Spencer would want a good, clean match, you know, like some some sweet science ye, come out fighting, but the belt type stuff Codex is like

dipping his paper wrists in the shards of glass. Yeah. And then, for whatever reason, I feel like Eve Gamo shows up and throws smoke bombs. I don't know why. Maybe maybe and maybe yeah, maybe some throwing knives or something. I don't know. I would love to see this happens, burst out of a pile of hay. Somebody makes somebody make video game CEO the Fighting game. Don't don't actually? Oh come on, well,

all right, all right? Jared and Sacramento back in seventh grade and my peers were split into two factions, arguing endlessly about whether the Genesis was better than the Supers. Except there was one weird kid who tried to convince everyone his Turbographic sixteen was the best of all, always won because he could plays and only one Yeah, how as he could play Bond games. Everyone laughed at him. Ye was bonked. The lamest console mascot ever? Or have

there been even lamer mascots that have mercifully been for? I mean, like, is a great name, Yeah is a really good name, Balk is a pretty good character killing motherfuckers with but yeah, and a good mascot. Yeah, he ate those geniant pieces of meat. He's probably just in terms of just like a Matt like. Look, I love Alex Kidd. Let's not be crazy though, like Bonk is a like more identifiable mascot character than Alex Kid. I never have been. I don't know that Alex he had

ever ascended to mascot status for the Master System yea, I guess. But in terms of sixteen bit Caveman, I give the edge to Joe and Max. Joe whack Mac. Maybe I mean them as a tandem team. I mean they're both in the title. Doesn't count the two of them that it was a better game. No, Those dinosaur bosses were huge. Yeah, and for Super Nintendo Joe and macan Bonk had pretty big bosses, sue. Yeah, and his head was large. I like the way his mouth got

all he got he got all scary looking when he get us. Yeah. Yeah, he got all creepy looking when he would eat the meat. Yeah. I likes that. And then air Zonk came out, look came along, Yeah, related a shooter like that's a punk rock bunk lightning bold choice. Balk's okay, nothing wrong with Bonk, but but yes, there was always one one kid who had the Turbographics in my circle of friends. That kid was also the one w c W fan, so he was just like

across the board, just like what shut up? Stop talking. I yes, stings cool whatever, man, shut up. I try to use Simpsons references as sparingly as possible, but it very much feels like Springfield Shelbyville situation of just like that's the guy who likes all the weird stuff, yea, all the stuff from the other town. The people that I've known that have liked the Turbographics sixteen still claim that that was the best console. It's awesome.

I don't think I met anyone that was like a Turbographics kid anyway, it is awesome. I remember when I bought mine from the flea market for not a lot of money because it was the Turbographics and no one wanted one back then. I remember thinking, well, the price was right, because this is kind of terrible. But when you look at the full library and you look at everything that came out in Japan, when you take that into account, like it's it's a formidable console. Like there's a lot of cool

shit on there, especially like stuff that didn't really appear anywhere else. I think it was cooler, yeah, for me to own as I was a little bit older and it could could afford that stuff. But like as a kid, I remember making that decision. It's like, fuck, do I go to this or a genesis? I would just rent it from video library for like three days. Yeah, man, I never had anywhere I could

rent it from. All I had where screenshots. You just look at that thing and go like it has one controller port, Like, come on, what is this thing? Like? It looks barely better than Nintendo games. I really wanted to play Bonk though. Yeah, Bonk was pretty cool. You want to talk about a lame mascot, Keith Courage? Oh yeah, pretty bonk manh yeah, Keith Courage send him back to the Apha zone. That guy, Okay, Joe from New York Domains. It's the subject of

this email. You guys talking keep I'm sorry you guys keep talking about domains and stuff like a dot cool and dot bike, but you're you're neglecting the dot vodka domain. My friend is the proud owner of butt Chugs dot Vodka, and I think you guys should consider a dot vodka domain. Sadly vape dot vodka is already taken. Damn it. I didn't know there was a dot vodka. Yeah, there's a lot of there's I think there's like a dot sexy now I don't know, Yes, there is. Somebody pointed meat

the giant bomb dot sexy recently. Don't go there, Yeah, don't go there. Actually, are there all all manners of alcohol in top level domain form? I don't know. Somebody who there are a ton of top level

domains. Yeah, somebody's weird. Somebody was, was it Danny? Somebody was telling me recently that registering domains on different ones costs like wildly different amounts, because like you will have a company that like buys that entire thing, so you deal with them to register it, just like with certain countries if it's one of the country assigned domains, like they can go like, oh well, if you want to register one here in our cool, awesome top

level domain, then you got to pay us a ton writing I can't remember what he said, was the super expensive one that xxx is actually really expensive? Yes? What do they got f one? Dot? Cool? Yeah? Right, I want to say he said cool. It was like relatively inexpensive. Yeah, probably it's four letters, that's yea. The longer it is, I bet the worst it is. Also also, top level domains over three letters are stupid. Top level domains that are full words I think

are insane. Yea. I say that as the owner of Jeff dot Zone. Zone's pretty good, though. The zone's all right? Uh, all right. Well, keeping with the theme of vape dot Vodka, here's an email from Chris and Phoenix who says vaping alcohol isn't great. Agreed. I can't imagine. I was listening to last week's podcast and had a relevant story

to your conversation on vaping alcohol. In the early two thousands, smoking hookahs was all the rage in my college town, and at one point I had my own my roommate who called himself Dizzle, and I would smoke it out on our balcony. Yeah, right, what do you think it was? Actually, do you think it was? Dave? Dave is absolutely the first thing I was going to say. He explains what hook it is, which people probably already know. He describes it as a freestanding of the water.

I don't know whatever, hooka all right, Fine, One day he came home and this is Dizzle he's talking about. One day he came home and told me that he heard a guy. I heard about a guy that put a handle of vodka in the base instead of water and was able to get super drunk while smoking without anything better to do. That night, we drained a bottle of smeared off into the base and started puffing away. You have no idea how much you're in taking, right, fuck, then sounds dumb.

What followed I can only describe as feeling the worst type of sick and drunk I have ever felt. Within five minutes, I started getting dizzy and felt sick to my stomach. Every movement was labored, and I couldn't get up from the chair without massive effort. Dizzle appeared to be suffering the same effects, but my vision was already blurring, so I couldn't really tell.

I wanted to give up the experiment, but Dizzle said, there is no way we're going to waste a full handle of vodka, and he proceeded to drunkenly disassemble the base from the tower and to drink the smoke and ash laden vodka from the bottom of the hookah. He then seems like something a dizzel would do yep as a dizzle do. He then lend it lead over our third storty balcony and started throwing up for what seemed like a solid four or

five minutes before collapsing onto the balcony. He goes on and on talking about how he didn't have a hangover the next morning. So there you go, because he was dead. There's your endorsement of hailing or none endorsement. Yeah, wow, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I'll do that. There's just there's just no need for that. I agree, all right.

Uh, there's an email from Mike. It's about Exhibit kind of. On a recent episode of NPR's Wait Don't Tell I'm sorry Wait Wait Don't Tell Me is the name of the show, actor Andre Royo claimed that he pimped his ride by keeping beta fish in said ride. He declined to give any more specifics, such as how many Beta fish, but it got me thinking, how would the Giant Bomb crew pimp their rides? Would Dan have Exhibit install a crunch wrap Supreme Press. Would Jeff's car show the p S three's XMB

on the dashboard for for turning on the world is dying to know. Hey, it would be autonomous so that I could sleep. Okay, Yeah, it would be a car that I don't have to drive. I don't think you're gonna have to pimp a ride to get that, though, they'd be pretty pimped. That's all that's on the way. Yeah, it's got an updated I put put a fucking bed in it. Update update the firmware in

your Tesla. You can have that right now. Mine would just be Axel from Twisted Metal too, just the two big wheels, except for not actually having to attach my arms to the waist. Wait, you would be in the I'm just in the middle and I a cool shock wave thing. Okay, except for I don't have to like rip my arms out in the ending. Yeah. Was it room for passengers? And where did they say? I gotta have like a little sidecar. Yeah, that's true, like mister

Graham. Huh of all of the Twisted vehicles? Yes, sweet tooth head on top of a cop car right, uh with a semi truck bed like dark side Yeah, taxi doors like yellow jacket mm hmm. Man twist smells great club kid from three Kid. Yeah, and Rob Zombie is in the sidecar. Excellent. Okay, now we're talking. Yeah, I like that idea directing a horror movie inside a submarine from critical depth. All right, this idea is coming together. Yeah, I like it. I'm on board

again. I have Rob Zombie's brother, that's all you have, and it's just like, wai Are they actually related? Yeah? We were talking right beforehand. I don't know if he took the Zombie's surname, but it is Rob Zombie's brother is the when World's Collide guy. That sounds been stuck in my head. All okay, I've been fighting the urts so bad. What else said? It's Supernova Goes Pop and that Dudley Boys song. I was flipping through stations on my drive in this morning and heard the flow Ride,

a song from Do You Have Any Idea? How many times I heard that and Dallas. It made me want to die bump when it came off when I flip and I and I didn't turn it off like I it was fully in my control, but I was like, no, I need to see

this through because fuck them, because fuck me. Fuck this. It's bad that we had the discussion in Dallas that that was probably one of the better WrestleMania themes of recent years, and it was that flow Rider song back in my day when Limp Biscuit performed crack Addict, you had good WrestleMania music. It's appropriate material. W w's favorite band in the whole world is how they announced Limp Biscuit twice. Wow, that's still the case. Who is it

this year? This year is flow Rider? Yeah? I was that Welcome to My House song. No, no, no, no, like who is the musical act? And now they had some American beautiful Okay, that's right. I had never heard of them. Yeah, all right, This email comes in from John Lennon. Okay, it says Skyrim came out nearly five years ago. What the fuck? That sounds about right? It's true John's he came back just to say, yeah, yeah, what the fuck? Actually, yeah that No, that sounds about right. Shouldn't feel like

that long ago. Yeah, they've shipped a game since then, and we're like, what the hell? I guess it's instead of what the fuck? Yeah? Yeah? What too dirty for you? No? I just I don't I don't know how to respond to this. I don't know. Passage of time, man, Yeah, it happens. It continues to have it's alarming. Just imagine, like when you listen to this podcast, it will have been recorded in the past. Imagine I know the entire world. We'll

be talking about that Dark Souls crash. By the time people hear this, Yeah, we were there at the beginning, the crash will have been fixed. It's already solved. People are already out there going like I just said this to low people. Just get around. People are out there ripping out their seven seventies, that's right, burning them in the streets. That's why this podcast needs to be delivered to people in a more rapid fashion. Yes, I suppose that's true, to get the word out. Yes, right,

all right, Eric from Louisville, Kentucky. That's a question. How do you guys say Louisville, Louisville, Louisville slug believe it is. No one says Louisville. Do you say Louisville. No, I can say Louisville, right, Louisville, Louisville Ville at the end, like vull, like louis the show louis I don't think that's Louisville. I don't think natives would accept that. I've heard from accept the Louisville, I might be wrong, or the Loelville that Jason saying what la la la lu la lu uh?

Eric right? So in for some reason, I now own an FC one three d O and a Jaguar. Fucking a man, is anything on a bad road worth a ship? People like that Alien Predator game I've done, no I some people swear by that. Yeah, somebody done a cursory search and found several recommendations. But I wanted to hear if you had any personal insight into these misguided indoor pearly time monstrosities. I remember Jeff calling Alien Versus

Predator fucking dumb. I think it's fucking dumb, but can't recall much three Do Slash Jag discussion on the bomb Cast. I guess there's a reason for that. I guess Tempest was pretty good on the Jag. Yeah, Star Control two on the three DO Plumbers don't wear ties? That's a seminalfinitely hunt that one down. Neuro Dancer on the three DO Classic. What was that? It was like a fucking was it? Like a stripping game is what

it was? And like a sci fi you know, what was that thunder in Paradise game on that's three that's was that three d O r CDI I think that might have been a CDI it was CDO. Yeah, yeah, it totally was. We'd played it on the stream. Yeah. Yeah. That Demolition Man game is silly. Simon's Simonson's Bleach is over and over again. It's not a good game. But Way of the Warrior is kind of amusing. Oh yeah, yeah, that's a must own. Yeah, I feel like there's that's that's that. You could say that a lot a lot

of games on those platforms. They're not good games, but they're like road Rash, Consuming Ninja, the fighting game for did you Fight the Life are come out? I think for Jaguar, did that goes to the two fighting? Oh no, brutal pause of Fury I think came out of Jaguar also worked. They hyping up Fight to Life is like some kind of frutual fighter the Treditor. They Fight to Life was like a real, a real fighting

game, and it was like, yeah, okay, returned Fire. I think they came out on other stuff though, Yeah, yeah, I Returned Fire on three DIO. It's pretty good though. That's a good version. It's the Way of the Warrior. The one with the Scottish guy that farted fire. Was that tattoo assassins? No, that was Way of the Warrior, that's where they were air account Jake, Jake, Uh, Sammy Showdown version that's pretty good. That's a good version of that. Campus like a

three button controller. Yeah but wait was that three dio that was on video? So weird? But yeah, like road Rash had like uh, you know the FMV Yeah, need for Speed? Has the FMV guy fucking taunting you about driving? Was twisted? An okay game show game? I don't remember, I mean I don't remember. No, but mad Dog McCrea, Yeah, you need a light gun for that stuff though, playing it with the curb the game pad has really rotten. I think they rereleased mad Dog

McCrea like on PlayStation three. Yeah, I think you're pretty recently, like move support. Like I went out and I bought the mad Dog McCrea Avatar and ready at any time, I could be mad Dog. I wanted to on the Jaguar though what like I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. A lot of the Crescent Tampas is good. Trevor mcfurr is really the Keith Courage of the Jaguar launch cyber Morph. Cyber Morph, it's a decent

version of Doom or no Wolf and Stein. Doom was good on thirty two X. Right, that's a yeah, I mean, you know for versions of doing Yeah, I mean yeah, you know, yeah totally at the time. Sure, yeah, it's not gonna do much. Yeah, it wouldn't. It would be silly to get that version now. Yeah, I just I just I don't know a lot of Jaguar games, like Alien the First Predator is probably worth looking at just because it didn't exist anywhere else.

So if you own a Jaguar, you might as well own that club Drive. That's a bad game. But they kind of were a lot of Jaguar games, right, didn't that think? Didn't that thing kind of just die on the vine? There was weird stuff that came like, you know, NBA Jam came out for the Jaguar, Like there's there's was some third party support, but there was a big homebrew scene. Like they really used to be a like a jag Fest that I believe it was in Milwaukee. Was

this turned into a different convention? Was this like years after the fact? Yeah, okay, yeah, like after people could burn CDs for it. I think because it came out with four box or there's like a bunch of weird stuff you can do because it came out in what ninety two three, and we're on there lay four games stuff like they came out of ninety five. As I was scrolling back here through the list to yes, of course, white Men Can't Jump? Ninja the Classic Iron Soldier was I think somewhat

well regarded. It was like a version of Theme Park. Oh man, I forgot to read his ps ps. I got the three dio at a thrift shop for ten dollars because they thought it was a VCR. It's a pretty good deal. Do you play back zool two? Maybe that's Do you play as Woody Harrelson and White Men Can't Jump? You know? I don't know because I can't think of any instance of a playable Woody Harrelson in video game history. Who who was was Wesley Snip Snipes and Hareldson, And I

think Rose Snipes well represented in video games. Oh yes, yes, of course. I don't think Harrolson's ever been in one MM ed TV The game is there a money train game? We have to squirt the gas under the thing. They're worried there was gonna leave the copycat crimes. When Money Train came out, there's this big thing about like they're gonna set people on fire at subway stations because of your damn movie. I remember Last Boy Scout.

Everyone was worried about people laying in the middle of the road and letting cars drive by them. I did that. You did that, yeah, because of the Last Boy Scout. No exciting times. But I also didn't like run on a football field with a pistol because of the Last Boy Scout. Though, that's way cooler than rulying down to the middle of a road. There's there's still time. That's a great movie. The door is still open. Congratulations on your purchases, Eric, Yeah, those are good price.

May they treat you will. Jesse from Dallas wants us wants us to talk about those crazy Metager solid Ford commercials there. Yeah, I'm into it. That's I thought they were pretty amusing. It's another case of like, you know, people kind of alluding to something and getting people's hopes up and then it turning out to be just something fucked up like this did anything ever?

Like there was like hater on David Hayter on Twitter. It was like posting like like oh me and the Colonel back, you know, like implaning new dialogue was being recorded. I didn't see any of that. I just saw the videos. Someone what the hell is this? Yeah, and I was like, unlisted forward YouTube channel. They've They've done a They've done a handful of other things that are not that you know, like like other overdub series or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, there's Captain Planet one. I

think. Yeah, I kind of don't get why I like these because I'm just as likely to fucking hate it when I feel like somebody's pandering to my nostalgia. You know, they're all done. Maybe that's what it is. Distinction is just the dumb jokes. I can bring up faultoning in Campbell being like, oh, that's not around til we have eighty four. Yeah.

Yeah, Like when he first said Fulton, I actually got mad because it was just like, man, fuck that this is mental gear solid don't And then yeah, because it's because you think it's some clueless marketing guy who just looked at the most recent game and was like, oh, we'll put that in there. Yeah. They totally was like Okay, they were aware. I think that there's you know, there's it's possible to like have ads that come across with a certain amount of authenticity where you can tell that at some

point someone at least gave a fuck. Yeah, well they had to have given a fun to get those guys in the studio, yeah, or get them to record the lines where yeah, yeah, and I think that did it right. That's probably why that stuff works is because you can look at that and go like, well, someone at some level like at least new to do, like if they were going to do this, to do it sort of right? Yeah, just hear like Psychomantis talk about power steering or

whatever. It's there's a great novelty there. Yes, yes, that was pretty amusing. Uh. Speaking of medical here, John has a simple question. Do you think Kojima will have any big announcements at E three or even B at E three for that matter. I bet he'll be there, but nothing of substance except at most like a title maybe. Yeah. I don't know. That seems like so early, Like the sounds like a TGS level of a now, like like if they're gonna do name or something very light.

Oh, I think that's something they could say for TGS name a TGS maybe some footage or a teaser at next year or something. Yeah, you think, I think, I think it might even be too early for that. But I but I think if it would happen, I don't. I don't know, man, the one adding him out at E three for the press conference, Like if you look at what they did last year with the press conference, like Sony seems to be in this mindset of fucking let's have

a like, let's put some together some bangers. Putting walking Kojima out on that stage fits the bill on that, that's for sure, But like, I don't know what you have him and him announced at the same time, Like all of their big announcements last year were things that are like years off

totally. And this is the same way. You know, yeah, yeah, but you know, if they if they can keep that string together, if signing these deals and you know, then every year they've gotten new people to walk out there and they're look at us, yeah, and then eventually they make good on it and everyone's forgotten by then that like maybe they didn't want Shin move that bad anyway, I have to assume they've got a pretty good idea of what they're working on at this point, right, yeah,

I would think. I mean it's been it's only been what five four or five months since he officially got out of Oh yeah, but but I mean, you know, they're talking about staffing up with some of the other people that got out of there, Like, you know, they wouldn't be hiring up in that way if they weren't kind of hitting the ground running to some extent. So I have to imagine that they've got an idea and they're moving

I don't think. I don't know that Sony would have signed something if there wasn't already some kind of idea and probably not gonna write again like that a blank check and just be like, ah, you can just sit around until you figured out, right, Yeah, but it might be like, Okay, you're gonna make your whatever this game is now, sit around until you figured out, you know, Like I still don't think this games out anytime

soon, but they could just as easily. There could be just a line in the beginning of the press conference spell like we're excited to have as part of the PlayStation family, like cut to cut to a shot of him in the front row or whatever. And just like that's it. Oh sure, Yeah, we're like a trip to his studio as they build it out or

something. Right, it's just him doing c QC on someone. We're still were still every game we go to LA and just shoot guns and practice fucking rooms just in case we're ready, just if anything happens in Japan, just we're ready. Yeah. Uh, let's see. Here's an email from Kurts, who looks very short, basically asked if you so off should Poor Child of Eden to VR. I'd ever played it, but you all sounded like you were pretty into it consistently comparing it to RES. You know there's some

pedigree there as well. Yeah, I don't feel like it quite no state power. I don't know if it was just time and place thing or what. Yeah. Well, also, I mean this, the neither control method

felt right in that game, like the like the Connect stuff CONECTE. Some people got way into that Connect stuff, like saying that it really made them cry because it made them feel like their reviews talking about crying because Connect made it so emotionally whatever from Yeah, like Child of Eden's neat, but it's no RES. Just stylistically, I just don't think it's as it's not at

my alley the same way resus, so that that's kind of it. But yeah, I think that that's probably something that's worth revisiting, you know, with with a different control method and the r might be a way to go. Yeah, well see, I bet they'll see how res does and then sure, you know, hey, we're doing this one now. Yeah, that would make sense. I don't think that game ever came out on PC, did it? No? I don't think sense. I think it could be a good excuse. Spencer from Sydney, Australia Jason, Yo, it's

got a question for mostly you. I had to look up a Child of Eden because I thought you guys were talking about Child of Lightning. Yes, that wouldn't have made much sense, I guess, yeah, all right, what you got. I've been trying to climb out of Bronze for the past week, yet nearly half my matches end and a rage quit where I get no points from my win and they lose none with no punishment. Does Capcom really expect me to report all these players myself? Here's a short list of

all the things that street fighters. Street Fighter five still doesn't have rage quit penalties, working profile statistics they all say zero percent, even on the top rated profiles. Proper artwork, he says, working lobbies, although I know you've said the lobby stuff has been lobby seems okay, Okay, There's a few anomalies here, characters select screen and ranked matches. Uh, finished you that's not there. That's deliberately not their mean yeah, and finished UI that

wasn't just slapped together with a times new Roman font. Okay, all because Capcom wanted to rush the game out for the beginning of the pro tour. How can anyone justify this being a sixty dollars release considering KI is free and has everything Street Fighter five has and more. Compare this to the polish of the menus and Street Fighter four and you can see the quality difference instantly,

totally. But the last, because they are Capcom, all is forgiven and Street Fighters still rules the FGC in the unfinished ass state it's been left in yea. But also, the game's really fucking good. I mean, k has been out out for three seasons now, and if you remember, they don't have a fucking story mode. You know when when they were first released, they had a handful of characters. There was a lot of stuff that was missing from that. Well, wasn't Yeah that that game was free.

I'm just all I mean to get all the characters. It was like not that much. Yeah, it was not that much. And I don't want to make it comparison to that. But when he's throwing it in there, like you know, a lot of fighting games, they're missing out on a lot of that single player content. And I'm not trying to justify it, like I thought, if it's a broken ass like there were a lot of

broken promises, let's say that. And even I, as someone who does not get into the single player stuff, felt like I was getting shafted. Yeah, that was too high of a price for that kind of game. Rush. The quote I saw going around recently, I don't know if it was from Oto or somebody else, something effective like we underestimated how much people would care about single player content, yeah, or something like that. I'm

sure that's part of it. You know that they didn't put that much of a focus on you know, whether or not they had a smaller team or whatever. They just their priorities were something else. I think that they spent too much time looking at the scene and not enough time looking at the average player, which which is you know, flying in the face of what they've

done traditionally. Yeah, you know they've kind of ignored the scene and you know, those people are the most vocal sometimes, and I think that that probably would have been a smart well whatever, who knows if if the money would have made sense, But on some level, isn't it like a smarter way to go, like focus on the bulk of the people that will buy the game. And I guess and know that this core audience will probably come on as long as the game is tight. That's the trictest core audience will

come along, no matter what. So we're talking core audience, and you know it's probably not a lot of people. Yeah, I mean street Fighter, you know, it's such a fucking household name name that you know they're expecting, you know, hundreds of thousands of sales. But yeah, they neglected a lot of those people. So yeah, it's getting a bad rap right now for sure. I Mean all I kind of say, it's like, I've really enjoyed playing the game still, you know, I like doing

some of the the trial stuff. Now it's it's what I hate to just like reiterate a quote, but you know, they're running a marathon or whatever. I don't know it's fair to speak, but that game is going to be iterated on. Eventually, it's going to be you know what we're looking for, I guess, but right now, shit, shit, yeah, we were expecting a lot more. Yeah, Jeff, I thought I saw and you mentioned when your tumbler recently that you've kind of moved on. I

just yeah, I mean, you know, I haven't. You know, I went and reviewed the Division, and you know, I've been playing all this other stuff, track Mania Turbo and just want to break the idea.

Yeah, like reviewed, Well, I was like two weeks ago that I finished quant a break, but three three now I think actually, but yeah, I mean at some point, like i've I just haven't had time to play it and there's no draw Like when they rolled out the update, I loaded it up to take a look at it, took Alex into training for a little bit and said like, all right, I have no desire to

ever play as Alex. And that's kind of that. I don't know, that's probably typical of like a lot of other fighting games that you've played, correct I guess. Yeah, I don't know. I mean I stuck with Mortal Kombat X a little longer, just played a lot more online for for a longer period of time, and there was more there too. Yeah yeah, but like you know, I kind of keep coming back to KI here

and there. It'll you know, I'll go like a couple months without playing it, and it's like, oh, what's going on with Let's just play at KI. You know what's going on in the Shadow Lab? Yeah, they're doing this stuff and go look at that stuff and and all that. But I don't know, I feel like I moved away from Street Fighter, like like for something I went into and enjoyed enough to where I was like actually kind of like intending to stick with it. It turned out to that

I was driven away from it even faster than the average fighting game. Yeah, I think. You know, dude, the lack of single layer content yea, and the way that they've handled that, it's really like kept people away and it's going to continue to watching them fuck it up. Like, watching them continue to fuck it up is not inspiring me to want to go

back to it, no joke. Yeah, you know, it's it's like you're just looking and go like, wow, this this game was this game had absolute merit at launch, like in terms of the fighting being sound and

enjoyable. It was just everything around it was this burning garbage fire, and that fire seems to have only gotten hotter, and the game itself is well, it's it's okay, Well the fire is spread into different areas, right, it's still smoldering in the sense that people thought it was going to have been put out by now keep the analogy, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it should have been extinguished and you know, and the core game would only get better. It's like, okay, well, sure enough they added

a character and that's that's cool. That's theoretically better. You know, the game itself was already kind of fine to begin with, so or whatever. But yeah, yeah, the trial stuff, you know, that's that's not enough, And in some ways it's too little, too late for some of that. The idea, like the idea that they would like implement a tutorial and like check that off on a list and have it literally just be these fucking like walls of texts that roll out as you watch AI do things to

each other is like embarrassing. That is the wrong lady like this is, and there's so many better examples. The guy who wrote in talks about you know, people looking the other way because it's Street Fighter. It's like, well that also gives them that works the other way, Like there is there should be a heightened level of scrutiny because this is Street Fighter. Fucking five, this is an ex four. Yeah, this isn't fucking Nitro plus Blasters,

Heroine's Infinite Duel. This isn't even fucking Killer Instinct. This is fucking street Fighter. There is a bet degree that they need to they're fucking full on sequel two Street Fight. It's only the fifth one of these to ever

exist. Yeah, so at some point, like you have to look at that and go like they've you know, like for this, for any fighting game, no matter what you put on the box, like no matter what name is on there, you're gonna look at this and go like this is fucked up for this to be how that how something as valuable and as treasured and as storied as Street Fighter for them to be treating this game, this franchise that way, like this is worse than they would when they were putting

out like fucking nine different Street Fighter anniversary collections every week, you know, like when they were really when Capcom was really going for it and flooding the

market with PS one fighting games and collections and all other stuff. Like this seems more egregious than that, even if the game itself is good, which I'll reiterate, I think in terms of broken promises, absolutely, yeah, like it in terms of just like care for the franchise, you know, like this is one of those things where you just look at it and go like, man, like I get that, like resources were limited. You obviously had to make some kind of weird deal with Sony to make this thing

happen, But fucking come on, I can get behind the disappointment. Yeah, for sure, It just it seems like one of those things. And then we don't know the situation in terms of just like I'm sure no one is there going like, fucking job, well done. Everybody wrap it up, like oh wait what, like you know, and they're not shocked by it. But so I'm not gonna you know, it's tempting to sit here and go like, man, they really should have taken more pride in what

they were doing, because this is fucking Street Fighter. I'm sure that it's at some point the business realities of making a game and shipping it on whatever budgets and all the other stuff that they had to contend with. Yeah, factor into this. No one's probably stoked with where the game launched at.

They knew it was going to be like this. I think, you know, bottom line, I think they lost sight of you know a lot of those like you know, major numbers of consumers, like their priorities, that they lost sight of that and just tried to focus too much on the fighting game community. Yeah, and yeah, that's that's that's where it's burning up right now. I wouldn't and I mean whatever, like and I'm sure like

within the scene, does anyone even really care. I mean other than like where lobbies need to work, like there's that, But I'm sure like at some point, like those people are just playing the game and that's it. It's just they don't care. It's like it in training, they fight with honor and fight with people they know, So rage quitting is not as huge a problem. The survival mode is a bunch of bullshit. And yeah, that's that's comments it on unlocking new colors, that's yeah, that's that's some

dumb stuff. Yeah, for sure. Unlocking it per costume is also that's some double secret extra bullshit. Yeah. Uh yeah. Everything outside of the core mechanics of this game has been pretty disappointing. I will say that it feels like that's what that was reflected in the sales. Yep, yeah, that's that's that's fair, and I think that that's fine. I think that

it's a real shame because it is a very cool game. Like I thought a lot hotter on this one out of the game than even I did with street Fighter four really, and I felt like felt like very excited about well a street Fighter four was a different thing where you know, like we got a lot of opportunities to play it before it came out, so by the time it came out, it was like, all right, cool, it's out, finally now I can play it where it's like street Fighter five,

like you know, they did their beats and those were broken, so I didn't spend a lot of time with that. They get better. So it was definitely a feeling like like it happened all at once, Like as the game was getting closer and closer to release, there was this sudden like oh shit, No, this is actual though. They're putting out a new fucking street fight. There have only been five of these as it been a while, and it had it had been a while. Yeah, so that's actual

moment. And I kind of had fallen off of four you know, around the time, like even like Super came out or something like that, just kind of like they started adding more and more characters that I didn't care about. So it was just that game got away from me. I was like, this is a chance to start over. I'm still having a great time playing with you know, a core group of friends. You know, we're still just as hot and heavy about it as we were, you know when

it first came out. So yeah, luckily the core mechanics are just that good. Yeah. I feel like, you know, if you got in with a good group of people that played pretty regularly, sure, yeah, you would start you know, looking at YouTube videos as far as like tutorials and stuff, get really into it. Yeah, that's a that's a tough ass, cuts a tall order for a lot of people. That's bullshit. I mean, no, you have to look it up. Ship with Clash

of Clans. No, I'm not talking about looking stuff. I'm talking about I'm talking about the running crew, like getting a regular group of people that will meet up reliably to play together on like for people who are busy and play other games and blah blah blah. Unless I'm unless I'm reviewing something, unless there's like unless there's like a case of like I need to finish this game by Monday, because that's my job. I'm not talking by doing it

every night. Yeah, that's that's what I'm but but I'm saying I never actually play games on a schedule. So it's it's like meeting up with people to play a game. It's just not a reality. Yeah, it's it's it's becoming yeah, like so much harder for me to h I get that, like I fitted in wherever I can't and that's you know, I spend a lot of hours playing games, but it's not something where we have to move on, like we gotta. We gotta keep loose, man, we

gotta. But also it's just it's just very difficult for me to just be like, all right, four o'clock Sunday, we're gonna do this. And it's like, well, now four o'clock Sunday came around, and we decided to go see a movie. So fuck this, like you know, like it's it's it's not that's not something I would prioritize, but so that that's what makes it hard. I don't necessarily say that I prioritized It's not a certain night of the week. It's just like after midnight or something. If

everybody's online, then we will hop on with a few people. It's I don't know, pretty pretty catual. But anyway you have to you know, what it is is that you kind of have to make it away of life to do that. Like no, like I have that. I have that with Doda, but it's because I put a fucking lot of time into Doda, like like making those connections, finding people I like playing with, like like having a network of people set up where I can jump on there and

find people to play with. Like that is attainable, but you have to put a lot of time into it. Yeah, when four came out, Yeah it was a way a life for me totally. Like that's I was like eight hours a day, you know, seems I got home from work, I was playing that till till whenever. But but I mean now with with with five, I play it very very casually and yeah, I'm looking up videos every now and again. Like I said, I'm playing once or twice a week for maybe a couple hours with friends, like, and I'm

having fun with that. Like I don't have that drive to just like really dedicate. I feel a little bad sometimes where I'm like, funk, I should really work harder at this. But then it's like, no, I can get in. I can kind of hold my own. I'm having fun with a game, like I don't have to dedicate my life to it.

Yeah, but I've got situations like that where like, you know, like I'm max level in the division and I would really like to do some dark zone stuff with people, but I don't know anyone that is max level. I'm not friends with anyone other than Austin. I think it's the only other

level thirty. Yeah. On the PS four versions specifically, it's something like that, it's way harder to just pick up and play like a pickup group type thing where street fighters just like whatever skill level, whatever time, Yeah, just top top in and do it and so for it in a few minutes. Yeah, they're there are plenty of examples like that like that, where it's just like you know. Yeah, there's just like team games I'm never gonna play because I'm never gonna put a team together, like yeah,

when it's really hard. If I liked the mechanics of Dodo, would actually be a fucking nightmare because then I would have to start like trying to and those are long ass games like trying to like work on these schedules and and get like that's that sounds terrible, Like bare minimum, like a one sided stomp is thirty minutes, oh geez, easily easily goes to an hour, Like a remotely contentious match can easily go to an hour. It's it's part

of it is part of why I call of Duty so much. It is because you can just fucking fire that up and play and yeah there's teamwork involved, but whatever, it's not a game to play casually. But like that level of time investment is what heightens the drama so much. Oh totally. You put that much time into it, and it's gone back and forth that many times, like you are going to fucking fight it out to the bloody fucking end like Mario party. Right, Yes, exactly, the time exactly

better yeah, next email. Next email from Stewart it's about popcorn lung. I don't even remember talking about that. Oh, working at a movie theater. Yeah, an email. Just heard you guys talking about popcorn along on the podcast, and you mentioned you didn't know if it was real science or not. Unfortunately it is. Yes. Bronchiolitis obliter ends is the medical name, and it's caused by the dia settle that gives fake popcorn butter. It's

buttery flavor. It is perfectly safe to eat, but inhaling it in large amounts literally obliterates your airways. It usually affects people working in popcorn plants, but one person got it from eating two bags of microwavable popcorn a day for ten years. Okay, yeah, you could realistically never inhale enough of it to cause real damage, but keep in mind and keep it in mind the

next time you're huffing that buttery delicious smell. Ps. Also just read that it was found in some vacant vaping liquids recently, So fuck that, I'm in it. It's in your vape, buttery vape. I think that's why people the PGV. I don't know. Vaping is weird. Sometimes I watched people live streaming themselves vaping. Yeah, you think twitch layouts are bad, try watching some vape streams where they don't where they don't have where they don't

have a video game to fill up most of the window. What it was, what's their vape out? It look like it's just a ton of ads, Like every single one is just like them going like I got a coupon over due to give away in the chat giveaways. I got to these liquids here. Last night I was watching guys talk about how great peanut butter flavored. Like, Keep mind, I've never vaped in my life and don't have intend to ever say peanut butter vape peanut butter flavored vapes. Well, Jeff,

I feel like you're the guy to ask about this. All right, great for all the talk we've done about vaping on the bomb cast. Yeah, I don't know anyone who does it. I see it on the streets of San Francisco all the time. But these like enthusiasts that are live streaming and youtubing themselves vaping. Is this primarily supposed to be like a tobacco thing or a weed thing? Tobacco? Is it? Everybody? I mean, in fact, yes, it is people do vaporizes weed. Okay, that's

doable. But when a lot of people in this in this scene look down on that because they're like, no, man, I don't get into that bullshit. And they're doing it for the love of the cloud. Yeah,

it's not even a start tobacco. It's like a cigar aficionado type thing, but I mean vaping it is. It is a mixture of the cigar aficionado thing mixed with like the same urge that like people that upgrade their PC or tinker with a car have because they're constantly fucking reviewing new vapor rigs and yeah, upgrading their coils and fucking suboming and fucking I can't blow big enough clouds with this. We've got a sub We've gotta subown more. Don't sub up

too much. It's gonna blow up in your face. Man. Come on. Like there's a store near me and the biggest sign on it says build your own vape pin And like I just stare at that, and I'm like, I isn't it just a way to like bring in tobacco. Like there's to be fair in different ways, like to be fair. There's Goldberg device to fucking vape, but if it was in some cases it is, Yeah, I mean, to be fair, there are absolutely people who have used

vaping to stop smoke, like they will nicotine as a way. And granted, granted, the long term studies on vaping have yet to be completed, so who knows if it's actually better or not there, but it has people anecdotally are definitely saying that, like, you know, hey, my lungs feel better since I stopped smoking regular cigarettes and switched it to the vapes. It's hard to imagine how it could be any worse than actual cigarettes, right, right, I'll put it that way. But but you know, it

does. But I still don't doubt that at some point they will complete the study and go, oh wait, no, this thing is totally fucking killing you in a totally different way. Yeah, I would not doubt it. Uh. And then there's the part where like you've got these like concentrated you know, nicotine fluids hanging out sitting on a counter, and like, oops, this kid spilled it on his arm and now that's real bad. Oh

you know, wait, does that act real? That's actually I believe it is bad to get it on your skin what in some cases, Yeah, because it will, it can soak in that way. I guess. Then if you're smoking cigarettes, there's the risk of like oh I fell asleep in my house burned down. Sure, yeah, yeah, I had a good idea to do any of those things. I guess not. Yeah, I don't know. It's so it's it's the same type of like insufferable that people

get when they're talking about microbrew beers. Oh, like guys that are really into IPAs and stuff like that, really picky about it. Yeah, like it's really hoppy. It's really this one's really like it's like that's I want the opposite of that. Yeah. Yeah, this is why I'm drinking this Paps blue ribbon and stop telling me that, like, oh, I need to send you a real beer, Like no, you don't, thank you, thank you, but yep, that's yep. I'd rather actually probably drinking

real water or vodka or you know anyway. Anyway, beer's terrible. M Do you want some vodka? Sure, I got the huka over here, Yes, let me drink it right out of there anyway. Yeah, I don't know. That's the the watching people and and they're the people that get all like up in arms about their vaping rights are just so much fun, so much fun to watch, But no, I should be able to do

this inside because it's not. Definitely, I've definitely seen people on the internet complaining that they can't vape, like around people in meeting rooms at the office and stuff like that. Is vaping on planes a thing a thing that you cannot do. Early on a window of time when it was allowed, there's people maybe tried to do it and we're told like, hey, fucking don't do that. And then someone went like it's just fucking water vapor man,

Yeah, and then they got cold fucking stop. Yeah. I think some guy at a bar in Kansas explaining to me like, no, you can totally do this on a plane wherever. It's not tobacco smoke, you know. But it will it will get the ship regulated out of it at some point. Yeah, because if there there's one thing the government loves, it's taxing shit like that, and so they'll they'll do that. But yeah, it's I don't know, it's the wild West in that scene right now,

and people are going crazy and there. They want to keep it legal, keep it free, keep it keep it out there. Man's second hand vaping. The worries keep vaping for the people. It depends on what's in that stuff, yeah, and what the effects of them, and maybe they need to study that a little more just to make sure. Who knows. I have what friend who vapes and I at one point let him vape in my house and it was, you know, I would certainly not let him smoke

cigarettes in my fucking house. Yeah, And it was like, you know, some fucking raspberry bubble banana berry but stuff, I don't know, it is really good and but and it was like, you know, the after the scent in the room was like not entirely unpleasant, So it was like kind of gross, but it was like, okay, I could I could

live with this. So somebody was doing it in their house, it wouldn't like yellow the walls and their teeth and stuff like that, right, or staining the crop probably probably not, I don't know, but you know, like I let him doing the house and it was it was not a big issue. I had this worry of just like, ah, is this couch gonna like smell like this forever? Like every time someone sits down as a

little bit of vape juice gonna come puffing out of it or something. I bought a George Thura good At nineteen ninety tour shirt from eBay once good call, and from the moment I opened the package, my apartment smelled like like just pure cigarettes from as you would expect. My uncle passed away and I got a lot of stuff that he had in his house, like a copy of RBI Baseball and some some like keyboards, some music, you know,

some keyboards, my old guitar from when I was a kid. I got that back fucker anyway, and every single piece of electronics just I couldn't keep it in the house for like a year. I had to keep it all in the garage because of just the cigarette smoke was just pouring. The smell was just pouring off of every single one of these things. It's a really bad staine. It's so much worse when it's been like baked into something than

when it's like fresh out of someone smoking. So that's why when you go look at like, you know, for like a music hardware or just really any kind of hardware on eBay or something like that, they're always like from a smoke free home. Yea, Yeah, because that stuff gets fucking nasty. Gross. Speaking of gross, there's an email from Nicholas. I'm twenty one and considering buying a fanny pack. Yeah, you're ana. Are you a professional wrestler? That's not all the response I was expecting. But okay,

does it play music? Are you? Michael ps Hayes. If you are a professional wrestler, then yeah, you need a place to keep you to you need a fanny pack one of the boys. Yeah, I under any other circumstances, No, absolutely not. I get press releases from this fanny pack manufacturer that has like a fucking boombox built into it. Yeah. Yeah, like once I'll get one of these, And I'm oddly intrigued. Fanny Pack broke up and there's unfortunately they're so convenient. I wish they'd come

back. Yeah, I wish fanny pack would get back together as well. I know, man, it's a real bubber ghetto. Bootleg was a really good, underrated Yeah. Huh. Did I inadvertently stumble into reading a wrestling email or the fanny pack thing? Yeah? I mean they are completely linked to wrestling, like and there are in modern times the only people that would

wear a fanny pack today are like completely crazy. Okay, our professional wrestlers who are completely the only people I've seen in the public wearing fanny packs in the last I've seen part. I mean, I've seen that classic photo of the rock Yeah, I mean that is that is okay. There are entire tumblers dedicated to pictures of wrestlers wearing fanny packs, and there's something they're They're Hall of Fame ceremony. This year, one of the wrestlers came out literally

just wearing a fucking fanny packs. Yeah. Yeah, one of the inductees. Yes, yes, he inducted in a fannie pack, which was somehow the most the Bad Street USA sharing fuck man. All right, two Moore emails. I slightly regret reading this email because I really have to pee, but here we go. Amanda in Dallas, writes in and says, I was wondering if you could offer some suggestions for a complete Nintendo nube. I grew up. I grew up playing video games with my dad, but I

never got the chance to get into the Nintendo side of things. I remember being eight years old and asking my dad if we could finally buy a sixty four. He turned to me and said there will be no Nintendo in this house. Nintendo is four children, and proceeded to hand me a copy of Death Trap Dungeon for the PlayStation and sent me on my way. I was eventually given a Game Boy Color one birthday. Right, I'm really torn about that. On one hand, I'm like yeah, and I'm like no,

was this? Like was your dad also posting to a lot of message boards at the time, because that seems very using it mostly man. I was eventually given a Game Boy Color one birthday thanks to my grandma, and spent most of my time with that handheld playing Pokemon Blue. I look at all the love for the Mario and legend of Zelda games and feel like like I am sorely missing out as I've never played a single into no game outside of

the Pokemon franchise. If you had to choose five standout games to introduce a right, maybe I should just go to bathroom to introduce a new person to the wonder for wonderful world of Nintendo. What games would you choose? They can be from any platform past present. Okay, okay, let's Mario World, right, sure, Yeah, Okay, that's that's the lock Man that was quick, Yeah, linked to the past. Okay, let's hang on. I think the to her lot. I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily,

but let's not go too SNSs heavy right off the time. I know. But but as far ast like, you want like the best Mario and the best Zelda, and I think that's that m if you're interested in what the like classic Nintendo meant around them. But you know, I guess. But also she doesn't, doesn't she was saying. And she was also saying that, like it didn't get an n sixty four, so that stuff might be

too old. Yeah, Like the joy of Mario sixty four when it came out was like, holy shit, I'm playing a three D video game. If you played Mario sixty four now for the first time, it wouldn't have thirty percent. It's still a great game, but it wouldn't have that holy shit factor it had in ninety six. I'll give you that. Yeah, so I want to lock those two Super Nintendo ones. Trying to think other

series that like Super I think I think that's prettymature. God damn, I want to say Super Metro too, But that's we're getting real sness heavy. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Hang out, You're falling into this trap of the fucking Nintendo cannon that you defended their graves and like gold Night

in Age, Well, I would I would second the Super Metrod. I'm just saying, yeah, okay, listen, games, I think that there are other games that, like you could play instead of Super Metroid that you would give you outside of a Nintendo Yeah, like a sympony the Nighters. Yeah, they would give you that would they would do that thing like better? But I don't know that I would say the same about Super Mario World. You might, you might be in the world is the best like two

deep platformer in the world. Oh man, I'm trying to look like any s like the MegaMan's were, but I don't know that those have an importance. Yeah. I think that that like something that I think we yeah, we talked about before that like they're removed from nostalgia. Are these games actually important? And more often than not, the answer is absolutely. Are we talking about historical No, I mean I mean, like like across the board, a lot of games. I mean, I think Mario World probably is

one of them that pokes through. But yeah, yeah, are we talking historical importance here though, or games that would be fun to play right now. I think it's got to be both. Yeah, I think that. Well then you know Mario World Links the Past I think totally satisfy both of those. Yeah. You know, you you have the benefit of being able to play like Ocarina of Time on three DS, and that's the best way to play that game, Like, it looks better, plays better, It's

got everything that made the original great. So I mean, if you're gonna play Acarina for the first time, I would say do it on three DS unless you really want to big strain. But at that point I might even say, like maybe play win Waker. Yeah, I think Opera is in there. Yeah. Like, like she specifically said, how would you want to introduce somebody to Nintendo, Like, I mean, Zelda, Zelda, Zelda burning two of your five games on the same franchise, Yeah, sports

like that. That's a pretty good answer like that, But I think I think that's important, like if you want to hit, if you're if the goal is to introduce someone to Nintendo and like and not just saying like at some point they started drawing all these characters like this, and they all look like garbage. They're called me's here because if it's the five best games, there's gonna be a lot of Mario and Zelda on there. Can I thrown punch out? I mean you could, I just don't think you would.

I think it plays so good still. Maybe that's so nostalgia heavy for me, but play so good because yeah, if it's just the best games to play now, I would say it's all Selden Mario. For the most part, I'm gonna say whatever the most current animal crossing is at any given new Leaf, Yeah, yeah, new Leaf would be awesome. My favorite one. I'm looking for breath here. Okay, Okay, I don't think you get a star fucks in there. I don't think. I don't think Pickman

makes the grade. No kidd of chorus Man, Kirby m I don't think there's that one Kirby game. It's like this is starfy. Uh, Larry Starvey is fun. Yeah, I like star Me too, Uh, Kirby's Pinball Land, brain Age, Sodoku. I mean i'd Rhythm Heaven, Warrio Ware Ware, Yeahware might be a good one. Warrior is a great way to show up the weirdness of Nintendo Doctor Mario, Yeah, that's great.

Doctor Mario is pretty good. Any S Tetris the one Nintendo made, Yeah, but then show the other one and go like sometimes Nintendo was business Yep. Mario Sunshine, what's there? Should be good games if you want to, like, if you want five reasons to stay away from Nintendo, we can get into Mario Sunshine. M okay, animals. I think Animal crossing a sound. I think Mario Worlds sound like to the Past to sound. There's three locks, I think. I think whet Sports is a good Yeah,

it's a super important one. I mean that is at the top of their game, working with the tools at hand. So what are we making an imminently playable game. So we don't have sixty four GameCube or we you or any s represented here, there's got to be something on any s. I mean five standout games. That's that's the only mandate. I mean, I would I would say Mario Galaxy two. I mean, because then there's three D Mario. I say, you get the best three D Mario and

the best two D Mario, you get World in Galaxy two. That's too much Mario. Never I think with only five games and the Breath of Ninten. Those catalog Mario Telda are the best games they make by far on the same franchise. In terms of games that hold up, I think that that starts to make sense. I think it makes because two D and three D

Mario games are so different. What about Donkey Kong the first one? Yeah, what about Junior I always prefer Junior Snass, Mario Kark done, Oh, Mario Karto Double double Dash's no, I mean, just whatever the newest one is, because that's how it works. Eight is actually really good. Play the new one and that's the one you like, and than everything that's terrible and Double Dash are the best ones. I think. I want to Mario your card in there. Yeah, it's pretty important important. Yeah,

Mario Karts are pretty damn like to Nintendo. Yes, those things we play. Yeah, yeah, you want basic sales? Here you go, you play, there, you go. I'd say Double Dash m game represented. All right, that's a good list of games. Yeah, maybe not maybe not a hard five, but that's a one and two for sure. Mario World and Zelda, like in past, enjoy buying buying all of those systems as well. Yes, indeed, probably get most of that stuff on virtual

console with this power. Yeah, you totally get those two and well oh yeah, well not what if it was one game that could be a million game? You just got Super Mario Maker. Yeah, actually that's that's a good one too. No, it's not. We're introducing people to that stuff like that's a little bit much. If you gave them a Super Mario World also, then then it makes sense. But just on its own, like you'd see like the art style and anyone, but you about any any point

of reference, then yeah, it's a lot to take in. Mario two. Who Mario two is pretty good? Yeah, all right? Last email Brad from Yorkshire in the UK. The drive to E three. My soon to be wife and I are spending some of our honeymoon around LA and San Francisco. Part of this involves renting a car and driving from La up to San Francisco. As a brit and very much a tourist, is there anything you can recommend seeing on the drive between the two cities? I ask,

because you have most likely made this trip for E three. Taco. That's for damn taco. Doctor Hogley woggles? Yeah, what is that? Doctor Hogley wog LEAs Tyler, Texas barbecue. We've talked about it before. And what does Sepulvida? What's it called that city? Yeah? Is that as a road? It's not. I don't think it's a it's a sub the pod racer that Anakin goes against some episode one. Fucking I don't know,

man, ask me anything about Star Wars episode one. It's sup boulevard there n there was a kid and they pod raced And what's what's the name of the green guy with tentnacle hair that grins a lot? Is that is that jar rib? Does he have technacle hair? I don't have, just years that look like dressings. I'm talking about kid fisto. Man. Oh okay, oh shit, move on. But yes, that is some of the

best barbecue. Like I have not had good barbecue in California, but then somehow this weird place in California is some of the best barbecue I've had, counting all the places in Kempas City. But if you're like a tourist and you're making that drive, don't take Hi five, like take the drive up the coast, drive up Highway one probably and it's how long is the year it adds? Maybe an hour or something like that. But it's that it was like twice as long as no. No, totally worth it. But

you know there's a you know a lot of nice touristy type places. You know, go through Big sur go through a lot of you know, it drives through that area during the day though, I mean obviously, Yeah, it's very windy roads and it you know, it can get a little foggy, like go the whole length. Yeah, like what one becomes one of one? You can go that way, so I take you through like Monterey and stuff. I think. So, Okay, it's been a while. It's been a while since I've gone that way. Yeah. Man, that's

a way more serious answer than I was expecting. If you have I figured it was just like Santaella Del Taco go if you have pale skin, you can get insulted by Danny Dwyer. That's a favorite. Yeah. Yeah, stop of that Del Taco and Danny Dwyer will say something horrible about you. What fucking monster. Yeah, the one is probably the way to go. Yeah, see some see some scenery. I guess I eat some seafood. I guess I'll be making that drive again in a couple of months here.

Fuck, why don't you just fly? I don't know, it's so much faster. Having done the drive last year, I really enjoyed that. Yeah, it's and not the airport. Yeah yeah, but eating tacos. Yeah, but you've done it like once, not for the better part of two decades at ly, See why Jeff does it? Like if I had a car, i'd consider it. I thought, I just thought. I don't know. I've always found it relaxing, and partially because like I never had

to like load a ton of gear. Yeah. Like if I was like, you know, fucking Frank Adams driving the U haul full of shit, I'd be like, this is terrible. Aren't we a big company? Why do we have to haul our own ship? This is bad? Yea? But yeah, and sure enough they don't do that anymore. A company comes in and drives the truck down. Sure it's not fucking game spot live hauling their own ship to U hauls or whatever. It was fun when we there

was a big caravan of like eight cars or whatever full of people. Yeah, but it was silly, But that all that all fell away? Would you guys stop it like this? Sometimes run into people, Yeah, yes, now, yeah, I am literally the last man standing on the fucking grand tradition of that drive. I mean we used to. This was back in the era of the little little plug in AM transmitter. Sure that you plug into your like your iPod I guess at the time, Yeah, to

play music. So we would like we would like pull up alongside each other's cars and like try to tune in the other cars little like mobile AM station. Let's hear what they were listening to. That's pretty It was a dumb thing. That was fun. Yeah, all right, bobcast at GiantBomb dot com is the email address you got any emails you want to send in? Please do? Uh? I guess that's it, that bad little show.

Yeah yeah, I think so. How you feeling about it? We've got eleven new results for dark Yeah. Okay, yeah, we gotta we gotta do it. Hang on, I gotta pull up this form thread results on what tweets? That's it? Yeah? Really for Dark Souls crash that huh, it's all broken. It seems like people are going to steam. It seems like that's that Steve thread was growing last night checked, whereas this one is someone writing to Vinny and saying Dark Souls three is the Dark Souls of

testing for Crash bugs. That's that's deep. I guess. Yeah, I'm pulling up this form again. Let's do one last scan. Yeah, it looks like it's pretty much still consolidated to that one thread, which is now at how many pages? Forty seven pages? Now? Geez, start up Crash at the first bonfire. Whenever I walk to bonfire, Crash is my

game. Mhmm, yeah, it's happening. It's out there, Yeah, it's it's really kind of crazy that this is something that we've seen for I guess like a couple of weeks now, right, Yeah, and that it is out there for sale now still not fixed, yep, that's uh, that's something else man hopefully gets fixed. I have to assume it's probably hard to nail down what's going on with that, but we'll have a review of that game in your future and some other stuff. Yeah, yeah, yep,

yes, yes, indeed, excellent. Uh, what else is going on this week? What else is going on this week? We're gonna be I'm locking Dan and yes, that's right, fucking done with the Melican fucking sit down and play this game until it's over you. Motherfucker's Adazonrew all right, Yeah, I will be in that room. That's gonna happen, Drew, He's gonna beat it. You're gonna be in that room high energy, eating snacks, being helpful. Bring a stack of calorie in there, because

you're gonna need it. Yeah, I would like to get some of that. I'm setting done. I'm not kidding by locking the door though. Yeah, it's time bring a jar. Al right, Well we will look forward to that later in the week. Yeah, that's when some other stuff will happen. Yes, the videos will get posted. Yes, taxes next week. Oh life, she's what's happening all around you. We should go live it? Okay, I guess let's get the hell out of here. All

right, thanks for listening. We will be back with another episode, same time, same place. See you next week.