Giant Bombcast 04/07/2015 (Premium)

Mmm, hello everyone, It's Tuesday, April the seventh, twenty fifteen. This is the Giant Bomb Cast. I'm Brad Shoemaker. Jeff Gersman's here. Hellow scandals here, Dan records here. I got a problem? What's that? I feel like my I got nothing today. I thought my podcast batteries are empty. I should eat some mushrooms to what? Yeah? Is that what you could in the battery? How you recharge a battery with mushrooms? Yeah? I think it depends on the mushrooms. About how you refill the

podcast? Well, need to open your third eye running on podcast fumes over here? The fumes. Okay, yep, Well I might need some help here. Okay, all right, although actually I think like right before we started, Dan delivered by salvation. I didn't even have to ask, well, he just started reading off a police blotterer or something plays blotterer. TMZ reports this is a great way to podcast has begun. You're doing my job for me. Let's just get a headline. Dmx ACUS and gas station cash

grab. I guess A twenty one year old guy in Newark, New Jersey, had an x on station early Sunday morning said he ran into DMX had a brief convo with X, which is how the article refers to him about rap music. They're gonna call him X, then they should just refer to Newark as brick City, right right, naturally, But a member of X's entourage flashed a gun while the twenty one year old was talking rap music with

DMX and demanded the guy's money. The guy had thirty two hundred cash on him, which he claims X grabbed before getting back into his car and speeding away. It's a lot of money to just be walking around with. Okay, all right, when you first started talking about this, you made it. This is a very DMX said, robbed a gas Yeah, this is very different than what I was from, which that sounds like something that well,

maybe I don't know, probably not. You know, it's DMX has had legal trouble, certainly, but this sounds like someone trying to get money from DMX. Well, here here is the tweet that I read before I read the thing the article. It's DMX accused in gas station robbery. Yeah, so I read that tweet, which I understand why you would think he actually robbed a gas station. Yeah, we're gas stations hate this one gas, we're learning. We're learning an important lesson here about doing your due diligence

before you bring new stories to the podcast. I was reading the tweet verbatim. That was not my report. I was reading TMZ's tweet out loud. Also, are you gonna trust twenty one year old or are you gonna trust noted hip hop artists DMX? I'd go with DMX ten times out of ten. It is the picture that u X, the picture that uses him trying on a hat m okay, not him as a gumba. No, it's probably what he looks like now. And again, just clarify it was the

twenty one year old carrying the he was leaving ATM. It sounds like and then super, I don't know. I don't know any ATMs that would let me withdraw that much money. Yeah, I think I feel like my daily limit is like four hundred bucks or something. I tried to pull three hundred out the other day and it said I couldn't go over two hundreds. Yeah, this might be a fishy story. I might side with DMX here. Feel like somebody's just trying to besmirch DMX's good name. That's what I want

to believe, have faith in your heroes. Yeah. Like, I'm looking over DMX's legal history right now, and granted it's lengthy, there's a you know, there's but it's a lot of driving without a license, driving under the influence while driving without a license, and possession of marijuana. I think the real question, though, is winning all the stuff take place? Is this all before he became famous or recent? Twenty th I'll just read you

twenty thirteen, okay? According to Wikipedia here February thirteen, twenty thirteen, arrested in Spartanburg, South Carolina for driving without a license. I've been there July twenty six, twenty thirteen, Greenville County, South Carolina. There charged with driving under the influence of alcohol as well as driving without a license. What's he doing in South Carolina? August twenty at twenty thirteen Greer, South Carolina traffic stop, a car he was a passenger in made an improper U

turn. He was arrested due to out storing, outstanding warrant for driving under suspension. Four packages of marijuana were also found of the vehicle is outstanding and he, along with the driver were cited for them. Arrested November fourth, twenty thirteen, by the Greens the Greenville Spartanburg International Airport Police near Greer, South Carolina, after my Airport who were familiar with his prior arrests, noticed

DMX behind the wheel of a vehicle at the terminal. He was booked on charges of driving under suspension, having an uninsured vehicle, and not having a licensed vehicle. He was subsequently released after spending three hours in jail. That's just twenty thirteen. I can take it back into the past. This is extra weirding me out because a lot of what you just ran down took place about forty five minutes from where I grew up. Yeah, so you I've

done all this. Yeah, DMX is following in your footsteers both from the streets clearly. Yeah. I want to say he got in big trouble for impersonating a like FBI agent and a parking lot. There's some crazy thing. I want to say. This is like maybe mid two thousands. Are you seeing that? June two thousand and four at JFK, he was arrested on charges of cocaine possession, criminal impersonation, a criminal possession of a weapon,

criminal mischief. Menacing and driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol while claiming to be a federal agent and attempting to car jack a vehicles accounts criminal mischief. And what was the one after that? Menacing? Menacing? That's something that's beyond the ear. It's like Mayhem. Like, if you get charged with Mayhem, you're fucking you've done something right. D MEX getting charged with

cartoon violence. Yeah, he was given a conditional discharge on December eight, two thousand and four, but pled guilty on October twenty fifth, two thousand

and five for violating parole. I always feel like the split falls at the time the the person became famous, you know, like like less lots of less criminal, like lots lots of people, lots of famous people, lots of big celebrity actors and musicians have Look at Destin Bieber started getting in trouble once he got a super Well that's what I'm saying, Like, you know, he's now he's got to get hard. DMX was already hard, but

he's but he's continuing to be is what I'm saying. Yeah, maybe he believes he has to uphold his reputation, you know, plenty of plenty of famous people realize that they got it good and kind of you know, I bet it was because that roller coaster video. That's a great video. That is a great video. Yeah, I think that you know that there's definitely some like that would be the common sense approach. I think hip hop sometimes

works against the grain and some of that stuff. Bobby Schmurda, for example, who he's a he's did he played for the Orioles? Yeah he did. Yeah, he's there closing picture. Uh yeah, he's uh he I think he might still be in jail. I'm not sure if he's out yet, but he he was on a jail on a game conspiracy and gun charges. You find a lot of gun charges, and so you'll find, like you know, rappers with an entourage. We'll have a guy it's like, okay, dude, we're friends from way back. It is now your job

to hold the weed and go down for that charge. If we get pulled over, if the tour bus gets stopped, this is all yours. I am paying you for this. You will go to jail for it. Like this is code of silence. Like that's that's that seems like that's kind of like you know, there's one guy that's the designated weed carrier in the posse.

Wow is that explicitly stated to Oh no, it's just kind of assumed that, Hey, if the cops come, well no, no, I mean I probably yes, but not in you know, you're not going to find a contract that says right, but I mean like what they Yeah, okay, yeah, I think that's the Yeah, it's like, okay, you know, I've got to stay out here and get this money and and beyond this tour and all this other stuff. So as part of the crew here that everyone plays a role and it's in the crew's best interest at the

Star keeps making money exact. So yeah, I guess that makes sense. I love that. I love the Willie Nelson h since we're talking about famous rap sure, yeah, yeah, it has no time for such a system. He just goes down. Oh yeah, Like I've read an article in Rolling Stone a little while back about him and like you know how many times he's been to jail for for weed possession on top of the White Mouse.

Yes, yes, you talked about that story in fact, but like just like would get out of the stir and I mean, you know, like and like blaze joint on the way home in the car, you know, like just does not give a fuck. You know. It's so he's in his eighties now, yeah, right, and still doing that like he's been in his eighties for like three decades. That's fair, That is fair. Yeah. Uh, but in this case, it sounds like, yeah, it was not DMX perpetrating the robbery allegedly. Yeah. I mean, we're

making lots of russes and assumptions here. So say the entreve pulled the gun, but the way the article states it is that X actually grabbed the cash and jump in the car. That's what the article states. Okay, all right, So I want to be smartched the good name of show to DMX told you that upfront, don't. I mean, like that's at some point, well, I'm I will be curious to see how this ends up, how it's going down on this one. But that yeah, if he's really

got money troubles, he should uh approach both us and Nintendo. Maybe we could work out some kind of three way split on this DMX Guma business. Yeah right, I think that's got plenty of franchise potential. It's got legs, yep, merchandise directly under his head. I mean sure, Oh boy, uh Dan, how are you feeling? I'm feeling great. Yeah, yeah, it's good to hear. Yeah, are your whole? Are your innerds back together? Yeah? I'm gonna try to kickbox tonight. We'll see

if that. Uh what three days after getting out of the hospitals in the emergency room on Friday, Yes, I did nothing all week and uh so I think I rested everything. I'm feeling pretty good right now. I know my appendix is not going to explode, which was a concern on Friday, at least not because of recent events. I mean, it may still exploit. You know, I was pretty scared when the actor urgent care told me, like, hey, you should go to the emergency room in case you

have like really bad appendiciis in your panics. It's alarming when anyone tells you that much less medical profession. Yeah yeah, yeah, you should probably go to the real hospital. You never had a major operation, ah yeah, yeah, okay, yep. So I deal with him, all right. No stranger to go under under the knife, because that you know, that might have been like, hey, you need to go into surgery right now.

Oh, Honestly, if they would have said, hey, we got to take it out right now, like I would have been totally fine with that, like if I'm out, Like, yeah, medical stuff is great. I mean they put a thing in you and then they can cut you open or drill holes into your skull at the demist office. Don't wake up,

you don't yet. Incredible, that's sure, He's amazing. No, I know, one hundred years ago, it'd be the worst thing in the world course to be sticking leeches on you somewhere and going like this will probably do it. I don't give you a piece of cork to bite down on while they cut your arm off. Here, smell this weird chemical? Did that do anything? No? All right, try this one. All right, both these at the same time. There we go smelling salts work.

I've had that at the hospital situation. Doctors have done that to like wake me up and it wakes you right the fuck up? Are they using no torque? Oh god, that's their medical medical grade smelling salt. I don't know if we still have that around here. I don't know what happened to the Yeah, someone ran off from the nose torque, which is more frightening. So you were prescribed a lot of what bed rest? Yeah, they just said to take it easier or whatever, and uh, I'm taking eighteen

hours of blood Born. I probably played eighteen hours of blood Borne this weekend. Got around in pajama pants and that's all I did all weekend. All right, Well, since you said the name of blood Born, oh, I guess we should just do this. Oh because under jeftment planet. Yeah, that ended up being a little bit my weekend in a lot of ways. Sunday more than than Saturday, I guess. But yeah, I fooled

around that thing. My girlfriend was out of town, so I was like, you know, kind of sitting around and on like, well, now what, Well you had your exploratory moment on unprofessional Friday, right, yeah, Premium members will remember probably, Yeah, fired it up for the first time, really kicked kicked Travis's journey off. And the eldritch lovecrafty and horror of this in is weird fake sword it turns into a not sword or yeah, it's a weird weapon. But yeah, I mean all the weapons are

weird. Saw Cleveland. Yeah, it's like a big razor that snaps back and forth. Yeah, sharp on both ends. I guess, yeah, yeah, it's it's a dangerous looking thing. It seems like you would hurt yourself with it pretty easily. I'm in the last area and that's still the weapon I'm using. Wait for sure, the last area. Yeah, I like, do they tell you that or did you look it up? I mean I was streaming and people were telling me I've got done all the optional

areas. Okay, uh yeah, I don't know. All right, that game we have, it doesn't seem especially like like it's weird going from because I fooled around with the Dark Souls games I played, tried to play a little Demon Souls, and every step of the way it was just like all right, this is just like arcane and frustrating and like not, I'm not

interested in this at all. So I tried Bloodborn, and you know, it's it was interesting coming out of like having like live stream to the first hour of me playing that game, because that's usually that's about the bulk that I played of Dark Souls too, was about an hour and went, man, fuck this, I'm not interested in this at all. And between the descript people describing what the rest of that game is and my own experience at the start of the game, like there was nothing about it. Then maybe

you want to go back with this. Obviously, I mean, you know, I got pulled, But so the thing that happened is like a ton of people were like, man, you're really good, and and like, man, you did really well. Like you you basically like blew past me, or you know, some variant of that. Like I saw a lot of people saying that I was doing really well at it, to which I say, what the fuck is wrong with people? It's not like nothing I

did in that initial hour like is like especially difficult. Like guys come at you, you fucking step out of the way, and then you murder them, and then you realize, oh wait, I don't need to step out of the way. I could just run up to these people and murder them. Like there's nothing like like you take a lot of damage, and obviously there's the situation where like, oh I got knocked down and now I'm you know, stunned here and I'm taking more damage because I'm stunned and I can't

roll away, like you end up in those situations. But like hearing people describe like these games, like like this game you know as like, so it's so hard to go so fuck like what, Yeah, I don't know if that's a lot of people playing this as their first Souls game and that's where that's coming from, or if like the general fan base just it is kind of up its own ass about the like legendary difficulty, like you know, like there are challenging moments, like the boss fights are a different story

to some extent, but like, well, I mean you have to be smart about like, yeah, if there's one guy standing somewhere, you can rush up and just you know, mash. If there are fucking three guys standing somewhere, you run up and murdered them. You get so many healing items that can turn bad really quick if they've got you in a thing and

they're staggering, you can. But like that that initial area, would you know, like I played that first hour and played it very carefully, and people like, oh, you're doing so well, Like oh my god, well, like there's nothing you just step aside. Yeah. I think people for assume that since you hadn't played it before, that you were just gonna go in like some Dynasty Warriors. But I think that some of that's kind

of how I'm playing that area now. Yeah, yeah, well you've leveled up significantly, I assume at this point, and I'm like one shotting, but it's like it's two or three and I'm still using the same soft leaver, like I it's like plus three now or something like that. But like the tactics haven't changed, you know, those guys are still not able to get attacks in. So it's just that thing of like you just do to them what they would do to you, and everything's fine. Sure, So

it's just weird. I don't know, like there's a huge disconnect for me, like of people saying like I don't like like okay, because I think about like that initial hour and and what I had to do in it of pressing the circle button to step aside and then hit people or like stick and move tactics like stuff that would be like blatantly obvious and apparent, and like a lot of games sort of do like the idea that like that's like, oh man, you're doing so good, Like I just I don't understand.

Well, So I don't think the human area or human enemies in that first area are especially hard right Like there, it's quite straightforward. You know how you don't. It doesn't take a lot of thought to work out how to

face off against those guys. Uh yeah, but the game I have found so I've been playing a little bit of Dark Souls too on the PS four, which I'll talk about a little bit later, but playing that has reminded me, or not reminded me. It's kind of made me realize that blood Borne is pretty lenient about certain things, like like the way the dodge works and how much invincibility you get when you dodge through attacks, which is a lot, yeah, compared to Dark Souls too. Like it. And you

know, like you said, the healing items are everywhere. You don't you're not stuck in place when you use them like you used to be in the old games. Like they're definitely you know, there's definitely some things, some aids that make that stuff a lot more pleasant. Jeff, how would you

compare this to fighting games? I think it's like there's a tactical similarity of like I mean, there's a precision to it, or there there's some precision to it that you might expect out of like a fighting game or something like that, But you know, you'd also expect that out of punch out, the enemy swings at you, you do something about it. You know, if you had a shield, you would block, if you could block, you could block. But you know, like you just you step around it

and then murder them while they're in their swing animation. And that seems to be the entire game. That's It's absolutely not the entire game, Like Dan Dan could a test like that. That's that's the first, Like it is the first like eight hours or something for sure. So what does it become

then? Like what's the It's just a lot of what's the A lot of enemies with different methodologies basically like I'm running into these enemies now that if they grab you, they will suck your face and take all your inside away basically, And so what is inside? Uh? It's like it's like a weird nebulous currency that you spend on multiplayer, but then you also can buy items with it, and the more you have the heart of the enemies? Are I have eleven? Now? Is that bad? No? I think too

much about fifteen. I was at like forty six when I started streaming, and people were like, what are you doing? Why do you have that high of inside? I was like, oh, I didn't realize it's making this tough. Ye, yeah that I did notice that when I was streaming. Is he about people that are up their own ass about you know,

the difficulty or whatever. I did have plenty of people in the chat they're just like, God, I can't believe you passed there, Like oh, if you walk off that ledge right there, you can drop down to this, or oh if you do this attack or whatever's like the Soul's faces fan bases. Yeah, it is legendary for being nitpicky, Like I mean, people did that when we were playing Persona four people. I can't believe how fucking diffusing incorrectly. They need to do this like a double guess what,

we still beat the game. Fuck off. Everybody's an expert whatever. Yeah, there's stuff you gotta do, like when you're going into an area, you have to kind of prepare to where it's like, well, I know this area is super poisonous, like there's this poisonous water everywhere, so you gotta put on here all like your church garb or whatever to make sure you're good on that. Damn it, dude, I fucking went back and found

that place. I don't know if there's more than one that you're talking about with all the green water or whatever and all the weird like slug things going around and the guy's the little things. Oh, you might be talking about kind of the forest. All right, let me ask this plainly. Is there more than one area in this game we're standing on the floor poisons you. Uh, there's a couple. I'm thinking of one area in general. Have you had the guy the Johnt guys throwing rocks at you? Yeah,

but they're poison there. Okay, there's unless that's deeper. Are you talking about nightmare friends here? Yeah? Yeah, I must not a guy. I got to the first guys to throw rocks at you, and when one killed me one hit, I was like, nope, I'm out. No, Like so right there, there's this huge poisonous lake, and so you know, I put on all this like church garb or whatever. And then they also had to like load yourself up with antidotes and things like that.

I didn't even know that, like there's going to be this brain enemy that like induces frenzy on you, and so you also have to have like sedatives ready or it's some preparation. I feel hypocritical because I think a lot of the things that I praise this for are the things that I should on Monster

Hunter for. But I just I like this more. But yeah, it's preparation and just enemy tactics, not even just bosses become much more difficult to deal with than those kind of slow plotting humans from that first village area, which I know you're past the Father now, so you've mostly been fighting those You've seen some dogs, a couple of sniper guys. You know, you do the dogs. You hit him with your cutlaver, Yeah, cut them.

Yeah, none of that stuff you cut them. None of that stuff that you fought is as like remotely as difficult as some or not even I would hope, I would hope that it gets more difficult. Rephrase that, I mean not even so much. I mean, yeah, it's harder, but mostly because it's just a pain in the ass. And that's the kind of my other thing with that game is that a lot of it just seems like a pain in the ass. Yeah, it seems like, Okay, well you're gonna get up to the boss and fight and lose, and then

you have to hack your way through these guys again. Unless you've opened a door, then you can hack your way through a slaly different path. The filtering mechanism for the Souls games is what is your tolerance for bullshit? Like that's really what it is. It's like if you can, if you can feel like, oh, I got stuck in a corner and I died to that boss when he needed like he had like you know, two hits left, and I want to get up and go fight him again immediately, then

you should play those games. But if that happens and you never want to touch it again, then it's not for you, you know. Yeah, Like I think the amount of bullshit it throws at you makes it so much better when like you do unlike that shortcut, like you turn on that elevator or you find a lamp or something. It's like, oh my god, I never have to do that shit again. Like I don't know. It's always the hallmark of it's best games. But it's actually it is a good

feeling. It is super satisfying. You're right, Like, it's it's obvious why people like those games. I mean, because the progress is like is definitive, Like you're like, oh fucking great, okay, cool, I can go back and do this, or like the desperation that you can feel knowing like oh my god, I've got ninety thousand souls and like I can see the short cut ahead, but I've got one healing item what like you know, and you a mad walk into a boss room or something like oh

fuck, just like that mad dash to the shortcut. Like it's like if I just make it to that door, everything will be fine. I like

none of this will have been for nothing. You know, like that that is like a it's a I don't want to say, a unique feeling, but it's accelerating, you know, like it's it's profound, but yeah, it's just it's like yeah, exactly, because if you don't make that, then it's like, well, okay, now I've memorized the placement of every single enemy in this area, because it's like, Okay, pull this guy, kill these three guys, kill these four guys, shoot the guy with

the gun. Okay, run up and get get him, do this, and you know, like it becomes an exercise and memorization to some exciting Largely that's just like Okay, I know there's gonna be three of these little scamps that are gonna run up and get me. And here's where the guy with the gatling gun starts shooting, and you know, I need to fall off here, run around here. You know. It's but some of the boss fights, just in terms of the way video game boss fights are structured,

are very well. So it's like, you know, oh, you know, one third of the way down on his health bar, it's gonna start doing this laser thing. And then once I get the two thirds, there's this I know I should do. You're telling me the boss has three forms. That's somehow like a fucking amazing revelation from video games. Still, I'm

just saying they're really good boss fights. Trial I don't want to say trial and error, but like trying to figure out, like, well, okay, if I extend this weapon here, it seems like I can hit his head better, and I want it seems safer if I go around to the left side. Like the more you die and go back to these bosses, the better it feels like. Each time you feel like you're making progress. And I wound up doing this boss fight last night, really like late game.

It was fucking hard. Killed me probably like almost ten times. I rang the bell that allows people in. Yeah, and Eric Tay from a game spot was watching my stream and he jumped into my game and so we did this two player fight against the boss, which I hear makes the boss is way tougher. Uh, I have not heard that this was the stream. We're saying it doubles their health bar. That might be true. That might be a first for the series, though I don't think that's ever been

the case before. I might be wrong, and I double their health bar, like if you're you've got two people running up, Yeah, yeah, that's that's not I mean having attention. I can't speak for the boss you're talking about, because I don't think I've seen it, but but generally, like having a second person there absolutely trivializes the boss design because they're all designed for single target attacks, you know. Yeah, Like they're designed that they're

designed so that they're hard to hit when they are coming at you. If somebody's standing there behind them, they'll just like wail on them for days, you know. But just big dramatic moments like Eric was mostly like distracting the boss and I was able to get in there and get a bunch of hits before it eventually turned around and got me. And then Eric dies like right at the end, and I was ready to be so so pissed off.

I died again at this and then I wound up killing him barely, and it just it is that sense of victory, like you actually said something. This thing has been kicking my ass over and over and I thought I was gonna die, but then he just you know, you know, the bosses. The bosses, in addition to being super hard to beat in a lot of cases, are just a lot about spectacle, you know. Yeah, like the size of the bosses, the scale, the kind of the grandiosity.

Yeah, like the the areas you fight them in the way it looks like the things. I haven't really gotten to any of those. Yeah. No, I thought the blood starved beast for the first time last night and then stopped immediately. I got him like over two thirds of the way down and then and then fucked up. He kicked my ass a lot. You just dodge and hit him, Yeah, I've just dodge and hit him. I beat that thing on my first try. What do you like? He wasn't poisoning the shit. So I did read a note. So this is

where notes are great. I had him before that. I had the church garb when I got there and there was a note right in front of the door about poison and I was like I should put on that. Poisons that are hard coded into the game players, Like, Okay, the game starts spitting out antidotes at such a rate that you know that that you're going to

face poisonous enemies. But like the weird the guys they I don't know, they have like hoods over there, like the in the gap lun area there's the shambling dudes, fast dudes, and then the bigger, slower dudes. Yeah, like those guys can poison you. Like it seems pretty clear that, like you're in a poison area, but you can run out pretty quick. And I mean if I don't want to farm for antidote the wh time. So like I was when I was fighting him, I got poisoned once.

Yeah, I didn't get I didn't get poised, And that is the first time I've been poisoned in the entire game. Like the meter has appeared, but it's not it doesn't actually trigger. I think I was under leveled and I didn't have ship for poison resistance, so like he would hit me once and I just desperately be trying to use antidotes and health and everything just

to keep myself alive. And then it wasn't until this is before notes were active, I realized, oh shit, these church clothes have really high poison resistance, which I didn't find until much later. Goes so, yeah, like there's there's cool stuff about it. Uh Like there are elements of it that I that I think are pretty neat. And yeah, it does like give you that feeling of just like, oh man, I accomplished something.

And it's like a very different like it's a different type of progression than most other games, you know, in terms of just like what gets better. It's like you get better. Yeah, it's less about XP and like that that's a factor. But like you know, you put points into strength, you put points into into you know, hit points or whatever. It's just more of a cushion. Yeah, you know, and you could probably over level for stuff. I'm sure that's what I've been doing. You could just

grind it out and if you really wanted to, I guess yeah. That was the other thing I kept waiting to happen, is like, is it always gonna give me like blood echoes for everything I killed, Like I thought those thing guys in the first area, it would eventually just go like all right, you're not getting shipped from these guys before because you'll always get them twenty four. But but the the leveling requirements scale such that they those become

worthless. Yeah, So like yeah, if I went back to the first area, now I'd get like fifty nine echoes for killing a thing, or I could go to where I'm supposed to be at and get like twelve oh yeah yeah, talk I mean, like what level are you at now, like like twenty five, twenty six or wherever I am, like, you know, a full run around that entire starting area murdering everything, which is not hard. You can you know, I can, I can level or

just about level off of that. So I'm riding up situations like I just I just got ten thousand for the first time and then bought the key or whatever to open that gate. So so you're getting in, You're getting into the area where it's going to be more than just the villagers with sickles and stuff. Right, You're gonna start the huge ass thing which you like you look at and go like okay, Like that guy is tough, and also the weapon I'm using doesn't have the range to really poke at like like I

need to get into too tight. I think you're talking about the super like the twenty foot tall guys in White Roads with the giant like so very shortly he's like just like you get out of the cathedral and there's there's two pimps, and then you walk over the right and then there's the big tall guy. Yeah, go up the stairs. He's right there asleep and stands up. So I just murder those pimps, right, But so at a point, like you'll end up fighting one of those guys while there's like two of

the pimp dudes and the guy shooting at you. Yeah, at the same time ringing up past him and open that gate. And then there's a bunch more of them up there. Yeah, there's like there's more of them up there. And also one of the pimps has a flame thrower. Yeah, just pretty fucked up thing to have. Yeah, you can get that thing, not from him. I got one. I got it. Yeah, it seems like it sucks if you go up the stairs. There's attempts with

crucifixes and they shoot magic at you. All right, don't show DMX a flame thrower. Okay. I picked up some armor off a dead body near where those pimps are, and then a big fucking magic thing appeared and suddenly I was in the air. Yeah, I guess, Yeah, did you die afterwards? No? I landed and it took most of my health and then huh and then healed up. It said Frenzy on the screen, But I don't know what is that frenzy Welcome to Souls. Who knows that is

the series? And if it happens, and you're like, every every time you walk over to that part of that one area, the fucking thing appears and you're like, oh, is this the big room? But there's a little saucer in the middle, and there's the first room right out of the cathedral. You go take that left exit out of the cathedral before you go down, and there's the big guy in the crows. I don't remember. I don't remember one of those big things ever being there for me. I

know what you're talking about with the saucer. Yeah, that's actually how you get to one area national area. Yes, I don't know, yeah, yeah, like nothing, nothing will make sense for quite a while, like things just happen. Then you're like, okay, I've got some kind of red messenger bookmark thing. I don't Yeah, I don't know what that is. It says weird thing giant pig dropped it. Okay when I murdered, Oh I know what that is. Yeah, that's the end of the twist

line. Okay. I kind of like it when like certain enemies will kill you, Like you see a new enemy for the first time and you're like, oh, okay, that thing killed me. I guess I'm gonna restarted the lamp and then all of a sudden you wake up and you're like in prison, right, Wait, what the fuck's going on here? That was

a big record scratch moment for sure happened. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, Like there there are parts about it that I think are pretty cool, but it's it's specifically because like if this game was all slow weapons, so like I got the Kerkammer, I think it fucking sucks. Yeah. I never really enjoyed using it. It's like the as it looks amazing, like, yeah, it's a rat design, it's a big fucking weird hammer.

Yeah that's funny that turns into a sword. Yeah, but you have to be you have to be into slow, heavy plotting weapons to enjoy that thing. Yeah. And in a game where like it seems like the crux of it is you interrupting things that are attacking you. Yeah, like the thought of like a big slow hammer, like you'll it seems like you'll occasionally need range. I'm like that bigger guy, you know, it doesn't have to be that might be useful. And I'm not saying they're like invalid tactics.

I mean, obviously they made it so any weapon could work. Yeah, it sounds like that's the way you're playing it, Jeff, Yeah, yeah, but that. But but I'm saying, like in a game where the crux of it, like the whole point of you having a gun is to interrupt things that are attacking you, like why not carry that in both

hands and just fucking walk through a lot of Yeah. But but I've I and I hope that like the game, like the game eventually needs to get to a point where it punishes that and forces you to change it up. I can't actually speak to that because I stopped using it, like the weapon I'm using now I like so much, and I've upgraded enough that I kind of don't use the gun anymore, which I want to be curious to see. Yeah, like I barely need use the gun now. Ludwig's Holy Blade.

People were saying really good things about that, things amazing, and I really like it because I was like before, I've always been a one hand weapon and shield guy in the old Dark Souls games, and people would just constantly swear by great swords and I'm like, that is both my hands and it takes forever to swing. Fuck that. I don't want to deal with

that. But this thing turns into a great sword. Like it's the little like rapier thing that snaps into a bigger blade, you know, and then it's the two hands great sword, and like I love using that thing now, Like I've I've finally gotten my head around the rhythm of using that thing. You know, you're still dodging, you're still like making space for yourself. Yeah, but when you swing, you do so much damage. You

know, you just knock the shit out of everything. I felt like, you know, like so I tried, you know, I wanted to experiment with the other attacks, and like, okay, well what's up with the slower attacks on the saw leaver and stuff like that, just to get a feel for like how that stuff might work if I went with a slower weapon, and I d have in situations where I go, like, you know, R one, R two and in between that, like torch guy will go fuck you, set you on fire, and you're like, okay,

well, I'm just gonna never let up, and you make sure you're dead, right, So like with most enemies, I'm just running up and hitting R one five times. Yeah, I'm rolling away. I did a lot of that too. The heavy attacks, you definitely know when to use them. But then I also think that the sauce leaver is maybe not the best example. Yeah, I'm like, I'm hoping that there's like another fast weapon in the game. Like I would recommend you just go buy every weapon you

can. Yeah, yeah, and try them all out. That's what I found. The what is it, the sauce bear or whatever. Yeah, and well have you been to the little Fountain shop in the dream? Yeah, they're like three more like the thread of can like the Oh I guess you haven't unlocked every okay, yeah, actually, where you're at, you wouldn't have. They're like three or four more things there, I think.

I mean, they're also cheap. I hope, I hope they made them that cheap for a reason, you know, which is just to encourage experimentation. Yeah, Jeff, there's a really fast one. I've used a lot because the way you describe it, it's like mostly how I do it. I came on our one a lot. I don't really extend it much at all now, I like fast attacks. There's one. It's called the Tataka or the Tunnel Lists or something. It's this, uh, imagine almost like

a sword type thing. Why why can't I help wondering if that's actually what it's called. It's called like the tunnel Lists or something. I don't know what I'm probably not called the Tatanka. Yeah, well, it's kind of imagine like sword type thing, about the size of like a short sword or whatever. But it's got this like metal orbit on the end. Okay, I almost picture like a little thin crystal sword and a mace at the same

time or something. No, it doesn't swing around. It's all like the orb is attached to it, but l one instead of changing it to a different like slower version just goes like you kind of whip it and it turns electric. I haven't seen that, but I know what you're talking. Yeah, you just kind of like buffet with lightning and it'll be like lightning for fifteen, twenty or whatever seconds. Then the same thing that fights you with, Oh, to the right of the Grand Cathedral igs it might be I'm

not sure, an electric mace. Yeah, okay, it's it's a lot like that. So yeah, all l one does is make it like have lightning power from it. Like it's just got those quick attacks and you can do a charge attack. But like it's pretty great. Like before you run in the battle, just get a little buff running there and kick everyone's the other. Like I feel like I just keep waiting for enemies that require me to do something other than mash our one and like the other I mean tactically

mash our one. I'm not just like fucking running around like a lunatic. It's like, Okay, I know these guys take three swipes a hit, so or that's fine, that's within my stamin a range. If it's going to be more than six or there's more guys, I can do five attacks and then dodge, so five roll away, recharge, five more roll away, then recharge. I guess again. I think that the sock Leaver is just a not a very versatile weapon compared to some of the stuff later,

like on the Holy Blade that I'm using. R one is still a slash with the sword, but R two is a thrust. It's like literally a poke instead of a swing. Right, So A you're getting the if you combo R one to R two with the sock leaver. I think it does that. It's not it's not what you're thinking about. It's like it's literally a like a fencing thrust. And since they differentiate between regular blunt and thrusting damage, and I've got a gem on that thing that dramatically buffts the thrusting

damage. Yeah, I get a lot more damage out of a thrust than I do a swing, but it takes longer to get out, you know, right right, But it's got a range on it, like it's a it's a trade off thing, you know, it's a it's a well this is slower. Yeah, I mean, I got to look for a window

to use it. But a big guy out of the out of the cathedral has been the first guy that I'd been like, ah, some range might be nice here, so like I guess I just but but like the run of the mill enemies, like the standard stuff I'm facing, you're just running up and killing it. Sure, So like that's the huge disconnect, is like I'm just running around murdering stuff. And then the reaction online has been

like, man, You're really good at this. It's like no, not, I mean I hope not so, because fuck man, it seems like this game has a lot in common with Monster Hunter based on what you guys have said. I have not played a lot of Souls games, but I have played some Monster Hunter. A lot of the fun from Monster Hunter for me comes from the accomplishment of defeating those big bosses and stuff. Uh, Jeff, you saying that it's been fairly easy for you so far, Are

you getting any of that accomplishment feeling of accomplishment? Uh? Are you just d Yeah? I mean, I like you're waiting for it to challenge you, Like, I mean the bosses are more difficult, you know, like like surely, like like fighting the second boss, you know, it's probably took me seven or eight tries or something like that. And I figured out that there actually is a very specific trick to that guy, and then it was like, oh, okay, this is how you're supposed to do this,

and then that's it. He's done. There's an item you can use to stun him. The music box. See I didn't hear about that until I didn't. I didn't have that either, had to just kill it. Was just like, you just blaze through those first two forms because they're fucking nothing, and then he turns into a big crazy thing and you're like, okay, how about you just stand still for a secon Well I murder you. Yeah, that thing's fucking hard without the box though, Yeah, yeah,

yeah, it's hard. But I got him most of the way down without using it, and then kind of thought, well, you know this is probably the guy from that quest, right and tried it and yes, trying to think what is the hard like the first like truly hard boss. See well, I thought the blood. Yeah, a lot of people don't a lot of people really don't like that thing, I guess, like Amelia

is probably the first. Like huge boss, You're like, oh shit, and it's tough, the big never ending story, Doug, it's four Yeah, it's church Falcore. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. Like the it's it was nice to beat. It was like after spending a lot of time running around the exact same area, kind of poking because I wanted to see, like, oh, was there stuff I'm missing here? It's like, oh, there's weird dogs and cages down here that I could

just murder. That's weird. Uh, And and kind of feeling like I got everything out of that area. It was nice, like a finding like oh, okay, there's a boss, there's an elevator down here, there's a boss fight over here, okay, Like and being that was like okay, now you can open this gate here and there's like way more new stuff here, like okay, fucking finally, thank God, Like, let's get out into and see more stuff. Having having played through Dan, it sounds

like you're actually passing me. You know. I didn't get a chance to play most this weekend, but having played through most of the game, I would say everything you've seen up to now is the weakest in the game in terms of enemy variety, weapon variety, scenery variety, like all of that

stuff. That was nice when you get to like old Yarnum and like that first shot of like the gatling gun, Like you hear the guy talking and you're like, oh, it was some weirdo fucking yelling at me, all right, and then he starts shooting and you're like, oh, that's fucked up. And then you see like that, I think that's a really nice shot, like that Scotty and around that air like like that stuff looks really so So that's what I mean, you're getting. You're just about to get

into a bunch of stuff that's way better than everything you've seen. Like the level designs is great up to that point, but I feel like everything is the same, just kind of gothic stone work. It's a city. Yeah. Well, so so you're gonna start getting into some new stuff. You're gonna start seeing lot more enemies, and like I said, you should really try other weapons, because I was fine with the Cleaver two for like twenty

hours until I try some other stuff. Yeah, Like I you know, I I tried switching to the Kerk camera and because you know, people were like it's so badass, Like I think it's you know that everybody's got their favorites in these games. Didn't like it. Generally, There isn't a wrong way. Yeah, it's like it's it's got a higher attack number, but I feel like it's taking me more hits to do stuff, Like it seems like high attack only comes from that second form. I don't really know,

but but you can get too fast. Like I just got this thing where it's like one tiny blade, really quick blade that turns into two quick blades. Yeah. I was like, oh, that sounds ideal, like two swords that are going super duper fast. But even after our level that, the ton it just wasn't doing that much damage. Right, So like the sock Cleaver for me has been kind of that perfect balance of fast and powerful. Yeah, I got to the point where I can't level it up anymore

or less. I get like twin blood gems or something now right right, and then there's another one past that, and it's really hard to find. Yeah, figures, But yeah, I don't I don't know, Like, yeah, there's there's stuff about that game that I think is pretty neat. But but to answer your question, Drew, I don't really know. Like the you know, like it beat the boss and it and it gave me that feeling of like, oh fuck it, Finally I'm not gonna have to

do that again, which is like the worst feeling in games. Exactly. It's not like, Oh, I accomplished this thing. It's more like, oh, fucking finally, fuck this, I would say, which like when I'm reviewing a game, like that's the thing, Like, if that's the prevailing emotional feeling I get from a game, it's usually not a very good game. Yes, there's a lot of that in these games, Like there's no way around. It's a lot of that in Metal Gear. Yeah,

yep, makes you think, doesn't it. You know, it just depends on what you're looking for. Yeah, I guess it's you know, obviously a lot of people in I'd say it's fifty percent relief fifty percent accomplishment. Like you, you know, you need a little bit of a maschistic street to fully appreciate this stuff. Yeah, Like don't enjoy like suffering for your

entertainment, then you're probably not gonna have any time. Like there was one like last Night Planet and getting into like running around Old Yarn and like there was that thing of like okay, I'm here where he starts shooting, and there was like if you just barely fall off this edge, you can catch another lip and run around inside some more and stuff like that. And I was trying to do that. Died in there, so I tried. I was trying to get back there, but I walked off too far and fell

all the way down. It's where you're getting shot the shit out of you. And I managed to survive that somehow. And then just like there was a guy who like, for a second I thought it was a human, oh, because it was like he's got a gun and a blade like me. He looks like he's wearing similar type because I think of like, okay, there's a fucking like it's this the invasion thing I've heard so much about. So I fucking like he was kind of sticking and moving like the AI

seemed all right for like a dumb human. But anyway, it's like I said, fuck, I gotta get away from this guy. So I took off running and then realized I had no idea where I was, and there was like a good grand adventure of just like I'm pretty sure this is not supposed to play this game, but I'm gonna just fucking kill everything and run

and fuck, I don't know. Yeah, sometimes you just have to go with it and and yeah, so and then going with it, I eventually found like my way around to that the door that opens like a couple of different shortcuts at that point up and confront the gallon guy. Guy. No, okay, I would say that guy. It's weird. That guy is the first like truly obscenely hard thing in the game. Oh, the first time you walk up to him, and it's I thought that you thought that

I would be. I thought that I would eventually like like I was running up this staircase, thinking like this has to be like something to get up high to where I can fight this guy. But then it turned out just to be like a shortcut. Is it where the wolf burst out the door and there's that big spiral staircase going up? No, the wolf burst out the door on the way of the blood starf beast. You have seen that?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know if you're not, if you're not totally sick of it yet, I would encourage you to play a little bit more because I feel like you're you're getting to the point where it's kind of make a break, like you will decide for sure if you want to keep going with it or not. Yeah, I don't feel I mean whatever. You know, everybody's free to play things exactly as much as they want. But I feel like you're not quite to the point yet where you

know for sure, because it does change quite a bit. Yeah, I mean, you know it's it's there's there's something about that game. Yeah, I'll say that for sure. And it's weird because I actually don't I don't really like the way it looks. I think it's stuttery in a weird way. Yeah, that area I was talking about, like it kept like it would stop and go, like the audio would be would yeah. Yeah, and it's just like it's repeating, it's repeating the same little slice of audio

for a bunch of frames. Yeah, it does that in a couple other areas, like the firm software games have always been technically kind of a mess. Yeah, like every every game that they put out, every platform they've been on, no matter what, there's always two or three things, uh yeah, between like those weird technical things and just like the overall just design. I think that's kind of but again, like I said, you know

that the variety amps up even if the technical prowess is the same. They ended you play anything else while you were laid up, uh flat on your back. Hot new release Metal Gear Solid three played a bit of that. I've heard of that. Yeah, yeah, you should check it out some time. Have you played through it. I've never played any Metal Gear games. Okay, you should probably stay away, keep it away, especially especially from three. I could probably pick up three right and just right away.

Yeah, it's definitely the one to start with, for sure. It's a pick up and play game. It's very friendly to new players. It's very enjoyable experience. I actually have heard the the DS version. That's what Peter was saying. Wait, what did he say about it? He said that he thinks that it was the best one. I thought it was terrible. When I try to you can go first person and move. I think that's true. The biggest thing for me was in three D. The frame rate

was very poor. Yeah, which kind of makes it not worth playing. I was very surprised to hear Peter say that, But I have not played through all of it. Yeah, the HD collection looks great. That's what I'm playing it on. Outside of that, Ali Ali two is free. I didn't like Ali Ali. I figured it's free, I'll try out the sequel, don't like, oh yeah, if you didn't like the first game, you're it's gonna like this second game. It's I just don't. I

hate skate skate I fucking that series. I think it is terrible. Uh and then also Ali, I think right analog stick like flip, you know, any kind of control with the right analog stick. With skateboarding, I hate. I love Tony Hawk, the Tony Hawk series, not like like Fight Night and all the other EA games that were very right stick fighting. It's one of my favorite. Well because it's the exact same thing. I mean, it's just what they're doing. It feels like it makes more sense

to me because it hit stick punch. Uh no, no, not like Madden Stars. No, No, it's like not the truck stick all right. No, with Fight Night, it's you know, the right stick is you're you know, if you do a hook motion with the stick, you're throwing a hook punch. That makes sense. What are you doing that with the board? Yeah, that's the thing. Is actually, like the motions in skate are like if you think about a skateboard, I don't think skateboards.

I try to think about skateboards all the time. I never think about skate because I can't ride one, so I might as well just think about them. And and like some of those motions makes sense in that context that they got to you cute with it. They tried to like there are some moves that are really fucking hard to do with the right stick. They want a level of precision that the right analog stick on a three sixty controller just

wasn't meant to do. And then in like Skate two, I think it was, they had goals that were like, do this trick and you're like, I've fucking spent an hour trying to do this motion and I'm pretty sure I'm doing it, but it's not going. Dudes that skateboard, you know, love skate because it's like, oh man, this seems more realistic. You know this, this is great where it's like I don't want realistic I don't give a shit about actual skateboarding. You want digital buttons. Yes,

yes, And Tony hash pro skater does that great. I like, I can just pull a pizza box out of your ass and eat. Maybe if I break down this this thing about Ali Ali to you, it will help make it make more sense to you. All Right, The big difference from Ali Ali to Ali Ali two is they added manuals Oh, just like from Tony Hawk to Tony Hawk shot do you do it in the same way? Just like an up down? And I think I got up? Really I need to play more of it. But this isn't isn't forget my ignorance.

But isn't that kind of like a basic cored sort of tenet of skating. I mean that wasn't the first time. No, because most real skaters aren't trying to score fucking six million point trick lines. Well, so they don't need a gameplay system to link them from one thing to the next. Still seems like something you're skating video game would have. Is aless, you were fucking thinking from the start. Sure you're gonna to add for the sequel,

let's make it manual. So I look forward to, like like an increased focus on vertical skating and the revert to be added in three. He's saying that Spider Man is gonna show up in Ali Ali like six, let's hope or something. He was in two. Spider Man was in Spider Man, Darth was Darth Maul, Mall was in three. Lane was in one of them when't Yeah, uh, Ulverine might have also been in three. God that really dates those games, It really does. Saying like, oh,

Darth Maul is in Darth Small is in this game. That makes me God Man is eternal right and it was one Never stopped was making Spider Man. Yeah, when you say that, that just makes me think, oh, wow, that game is fifteen years old. Wins onny Hawk one came out,

it had boxes for Apocalypse in it because never Soft made that. Also, Bruce Willis, Bruce Willis was not in the game, Like, like, really they should have done that, but I'm sure at some point the likeness or whatever they would have had to do to make that work probably would be way too crazy. Yeah. So Al Ali two just more Ali Ali

effectively with some more stuff, like they've made some changes to it. But yes, what I mean is that I never played the first one, and I was always curious about it. Does it Is there any reason to go back or should I? I'd say start with two and you're fine, Uh, it's different levels, but you know, and okay, that's the same basic challenge system. Like, yeah, I like Ali Ali two, but

I really like skate. Yes, it's it's it's it's one of those series that like reviewing Skate is different from like, like there are problems with Skate, but the Right Stick is actually like a really fucking cool thing that they did, and it's super different. It's an alternative skateboarding game to Tony Hawk. It's not meant to be in that thing, like Grind Session is meant to be Tony Hawk. You know, Uh, Skate is almost like Thrasher

Skate and Destroy but manageable. There's that Thrasher game was fucking impossible. I feel like Skate is going more for realism, which Tony Hawk, especially you know, with later entries, was not at all going to Thrasher Hall of Meat. Man, you fucking just ragged all your way off of fucking cranes and ship in that game. I'm always up for rag dalling, and Skate actually did produce some really hilarious videos, but I just had I never had

fun playing it, and Ali Ali feels the same to me. It's like, I don't know why making this hook motion is a kick flip. As someone who's never been able to like balance on a skateboard, right, I just don't understand. And so I don't think it's for me. Tony Hawks more for me totally. The thing I really like about skate is that, well I think Tony ok did this like here and there too, and then it just got too weird with it and it got you know, like it

got two into jack Jackass became too popular. You know, That's what ultimately happened to Tony Hawk. Yeah, but like the skate games are, they feel like a skate video, like the intros, all their weird live action videos intros where they've got real skateboarders in roles as doctors and other ship Like Skate three. That was really good with that super elaborate one. Yeah, and that was great. I thought that did an awesome Yeah, like that

stuff is of the shining and stuff. Yeah, they're just like tonal things about skate that I think are like the match up with as someone who does not skate but had friends that do and ended up reading a lot of skateboarding magazines for a while. Uh, like it's it's cool in that same way that and and I found that pretty appealing. But they should make another one

of those. It's a game that had problems, but they honed it every time, like they got a little closer, a little closure, a little closer, and I would like to see another one of those, but it's probably too late for that. Could just get beauty probably to keep making Skate three videos maybe eventually. Yeah, we saw that right three like re entered the charts. This was months ago. Yeah, I remember he did. He did some Skate three videos and like it actually showed back up. And

I mean not like they put the DLC on sale or something. Really point, I think, like it's not like it was back in the top ten or something, but it was charting, you know, like it was people were going out and buying it enough that point being like, maybe we can crowdsource enough skate popularity the DA will actually be like, well, like the thing you run into there is like how much of that team is available to

pull back together to put on a skate game. Because I think that that game had a vibe to it that you know, you assume came from the people that were making it. Was a was this say harmonics is full of musicians type situation of like these people clearly like appreciate the activity of skateboarding. Yeah, but and I don't know that necessarily they all skated or anything like

that. But you know, like that's that's not necessarily the point. It's that like whatever, like the team making that, the people making decisions for that game were very smart about it. The tone never seemed forced with what I played this. Yeah, yeah, I felt genuine Yeah, and and that's that was pretty cool. But yeah, you wonder like how many of them are still around. That was black Box and they did like need for speed for a bit and then oh that's right, they got they did the

run and that was not good. Did they get not totally dismantled, but didn't something like they had layoffs or something. Some portion of them worked on that Garden Warfare game. Okay, that was the thing. I was someone so someone I think it was from that team said, hey, by the way, a bunch of us are on Garden Warfare. Now, man, that's a bummer. I think I remember that. That's I like that game.

But it's not no skates. Well, it's fine whatever. I mean, if you want a new skate game, I can see how that would be a disappointing situation. But you're not getting a new skate game. Hey, it's the best plans versus Zombie game Zombies, game that's ever existed? That the game? How about that? I just liked that they put a period after the title of the game. Did they really didn't they skate? Oh? Sk yes, yes, skate lowercase like lowercase s and then a

period series had style. Yeah, uh, Drew, What did you do this weekend? I played video? He asked, knowing that you had played a video games games. I did go to Mexico though, Yeah, my family inherited a time share. Mmmm. That sounds like a real bad situation. It is no way a front for anything illegal, but we we all went down there check it out and see if it was worth the keeping around. And it's pretty cool. I'd never been to Cabo. I didn't bring

to Mexico before, but yeah I was. I've never been in Mexico. I was in Cabo Ohabo. Oh yeah this weekend. Did you see Sammy mister Hagar, He's just walking around checking hands. Yeah, got a barrel of tequila's track strapped to his back. Yeah, just like a hose. Come lean your head back and you just start shooting into your mouth. Little the bartender guns. Yeah. No, I did not. I did not even go to Cabo Wabo itself. I did go to that, Maria.

It's a nice little you know, I don't know. It felt kind of like Universal CityWalk to me. I'm sure it's very touristy. It's very touristy. Yes, and you drive by there are beaches with giant inflatable cans of takat and all right and bass emanating flowing across the sand. Can you buy

these giants inflatable cans of takata? I mean someone had too. I would like to get one of those because I'm gonna be there next month without giant or are we talking like like would fit in Dan's apartment much larger, like a couple of stories. Oh wow, yeah, I really want You could just live in one of those. Yeah, you have to live inside the can. Yeah. Yeah. I did not go to one of those beaches, but I saw them from Afar. Just did inflate it in Golden Gate

Park and hope for the best. Okay. I did go scuba diving, which is kind of like a game where your goal is to not die. Did you win? Yes? Okay? Cool? Cool there for a second yea. Our second dive was really cold, just going a cave. Yeah, yeah, it's a cove at that point, isn't it there? Underwater caves? It was not, It was not. Cave diving diving is very dangerous, so I've heard, uh, but this one was just sort of swim in, swim out. I have gone through like a short cave system,

uh years ago. That's fun. Are you any degree of certified? Yes? Do you have to be advanced like water certified? Like you can't just show up to a scuba diving business without any prior experience and just say like, hey, give me a tank, right, Yeah, you can't. They do what are called discovery dives, and they'll generally take you down to like a lower or a not as deep depth, so like thirty feet or so. Because that is that like the equivalent of your first skydiving experience

where you're chathered to somebody else. Yeah, like your your instructor. Is your instructors there and watching you and making sure you like they they go through a little pre briefing you how to use everything. Is there an actual certification check? Yeah? Okay, you have a card, so you can just go like, oh, I've forgot my card, but trust me, bro,

I've dove a bunch of time. Just give me this tank. I gotta go in Mexico maybe because like we went up there and a lot of us hadn't been diving in years, especially like including me, uh and we were kind of hoping to get maybe like a little refresher, Like here's how this works, blah blah blah, here's how to put on your regulator and remove it. Here's how you're you know, buoyancy controller works and everything. They were just like, oh, yeah, no problem, just here you

go jump in. But uh yeah, no, no no problems. See anything cool. I saw a couple of sharks, saw an octopus, saw seahorses. I've never seen sea horses before. Yeah, it was fun. Sounds exciting. It is. It is fun. Does the time share work? Is it just like the name sounds. It's like, I don't know.

You pay a month or you play a yearly fee and you get a number of points and then you can spend those points on hotel basically what our hotel rooms in different parts of the world, as long as they're within this time share network. Uh okay, so it's not one specific property. Okay, that's what I thought it was. I think most of them are just like here's a house. Yeh three other families own a part of it.

That's what I thought. I mean, yeah, well you can like if you different time shares may work different different ways, but like this one would work like if we wanted to go to the same place, we would spend some more points. We may not get the same room or whatever, and then other time shares in the network you get a spend points and points like they go up if you have a nicer room or if it's a more in demand weekend or something. I don't know, it's super weird, weird,

but the place was nice. Yeah, and I finally got some diving in and nothing bad happened. Yeah, you're back in one scar. Yes, yeah, I had some some close calls diving, but I can see how that would happen. Yeah. So no video games there or back? Yeah all right, too busy playing the Game of Life. Yeah, and reading great a lot. Finished Dan's book. Hey it's pretty good. Thanks. Uh chef, did you play anything sides Blood Born? Yeah? Avoid Expanse.

Oh yeah yeah we played that for a quick look. You're still playing it? Yeah? Yeah, it more over the weekend a space game, yes it is, but it's like a top down RPG. Huh, Like the combat is all real time kind of you know, you're swinging the arc on your weapons and all that sort of stuff. But it's all like w ASD for thrusters and stuff like that. And we're talking like fast twitch based

or like lumbering space frigate. You you eventually get bigger chips, but you you level up things like this, so you're you move the mouse to move your targeting. Uh. You have like a kind of a dash line coming out of the weapon on your ship, okay, and it can only cover a certain arc, like certain degrees like upfront basically. Uh, And the it takes a little bit time of time to track, so you move the mouse and then it has to rotate at its fixed speed around to where you're

trying to aim. So it's it is lumbering in a sense. So it's not like you know, hey, it's asteroids, but with you know, with role playing, and you get to wait for your actual Yeah, you get away for the time to line up and start shooting, so you know, and that's that's one of the things. As you level up, you can spend points to upgrade the speed on your turret tracking and stuff like that, additional range and all that sort of stuff. So yeah, you have

a hole and slots to equip on the ship and stuff. So it's like, Okay, I need a different shield, I need more fuel, I need a better power generator to power all this advanced shit I'm putting on here, and uh, and you're kind of leveling up along the way, and there's a lot of faction stuff and it's a single player thing. Yeah, but you can, like when you play single player, it's just creating a local server. You can actually just it's it's an online game as well,

but you create characters at the server level. So I would advise, like, if you're gonna play the multiplayer, make sure it's a server you know, won't just disappear, because it'll take your character with it. That stinks. Yeah, that's very disappointing. You know. They gotta like figure out a way to prevent people from cheating or I guess it's also different server's gonna

have different rules about some stuff. So it's a sort of thing where you might you go level Appella on some server and then taking it maybe in the like maybe in the Minecraft age. That's what people expect like server specific progress as opposed to like a global thing. But yeah, it's a weird, like it's it's a weird type of game to think about in the kind of the multiplayer and server environments and stuff like that. But uh, it crashed

a couple of times during the quick look. They patched it over the weekend and said, I fixed a bunch of crash bugs, so hopefully it's more stable now. I haven't had any trouble with it on the tech end. Since it's neat, I'd say, watch that quick look. It's like a fifteen dollars thing that you know it's it's yeah, it's not elite dangerous, it's it's nothing. You know, you're not going to use the joystick to

play it. But is the movement asteroids movement? Is it power your thruster your thrusters and you will move in the direction you're pointing and you turn on and no, no, because you have side thrusters in a front thruster like you can you know, you can hit Q and eat. It's kind of move sideways and you know, have this lateral movement while you're going, So it's sort of it's still reminded me things like that. Yeah, like that old school just overhead. Yeah, but we're not titled geometry wars. No

no, no, no, no, no, not at all. But it's more technical, you know, it's got like you put points, like there's speech checks and stuff like that. You can get a persuade about. It's it's a it's a spaceship RPG, like you're equipping loot unto your spaceship exactly. You see you talking to people. Yeah, you're docking at space stations like you can do trading routes and stuff like that if you want and make money that way. There are alien races that need murdering, you know,

there's stuff, there's pirates. Just get back on that ten thousand player server. No no, I just I've worked on I'm working on my single player of character. I don't want to. I don't know what if that server goes away. Yeah, so yeah, I don't know what the actual real like player account, like what a realistic player account for a server is. But one of them out was out there with a ten thousand player theoretical

limit. I don't know. I don't know it will ever hit that or what would happen if it did but connected that and then it just becomes Eve online. Yeah, time scaling in a weird one. No, I don't know. Yeah, but it's neat. There's something about it. Uh, it's you know, the production. I like the space stuff, like the character portraits are a little a little jakie. But yeah, it's like fifteen fifteen bucks. I thought it was charming and fun off the bat, so

I'm probably gonna mess with that a little bit more cool. Yeah, and that's it. I don't know. I meant to play that that fast and the furious Yes, forts a thing. I want to see what that's all about, free thing? Yea. Is it still a couple of days here? Yeah, not much longer, but it's gonna be like ten bucks or something stand alone or yes, if you want to go get it for it was pay Xbox one. It's on a three sixty. Yeah. I think Waits and two came out on three six. I did it really yeah,

right, completely lost track of that system. I turned on a three sixty not that long ago. It's crazy. Why it was just just going back to it. Yeah, but it doesn't change, right yeah yeah, non, but like the blades right yeah's but I wish I'd be like, that'd

be way crazier. But like it was weird because I was looking through the list of games that I had played on it, and or like Xbox Live Arcade, uh, because there's still stuff coming out for it, you just don't, you know, it's like, who's you know, you're not paying attention to it because there's new stuff and a lot of it is like different versions of like Geometry Wars came out there, RBI Baseball came out there.

You know, it's like that sort of stuff like Ore is coming out on the three s right at some point, and like going through that system and digging through the new releases list for Xbox Live Arcade games and navigating all that shit and and seeing what I had installed and stuff like, I got weird nostalgic feelings for a system that's not that far out of date, which was

a really weird. It was really weird last time I turned I Think on and I kind of felt the same way, but largely just because like it was, it was mostly in the context of, like I wish the new machines were this good, just in terms of being straightforward and doing what you wanted to do. Oh, I don't know. Man, you turn on the three sixty now and it's just like every single like section is now just like here's trailer for an Xbox. Yeah, you know, the like the

ad units were rotten. Yeah, but in that case, it was more like I've spent enough time with this thing that I know how to get around that exactly. And that's you know, that's how I feel about the consoles, the new ones now, it's like I've spent enough time doing this shit that I can launch a game when they're not broken and crashing or doing something. The new ones had gotten a lot better, but you know, like

just things like ease of putting a party together and stuff like that. For me, it's the stuff like putting in a disc and then it having to download three gigs and like patch sizes being pretty out of control, and and the speed of the consoles, like content delivery networks being total shit. Yes, Like I had three and Blood born Saturday morning. I was like, all right, maybe I'll play some more of this and then realized that there was like a two and a half gig patch or something, and it's like,

okay, well maybe I'll play it in an hour. Like it took like forty five minutes download, and by then I'd already moved on and like I had played a bunch of void expanse watched the two thousand and one Royal Rumble. It's like all a bunch of other dumb shit that had distracted me from doing it, and then it wasn't It would be like eight more hours before I was like, oh right that thing. PSN speeds have been fucking

abysmal for me lately. They were better at some point. I feel like like they were, you know, they were definitely better than PS three and stuff. And now I feel like it's right back down the ship or man, I've gone in. I got. I had some Xbox one when I was doing Borderlands. Uh pres the handsome collection for Xbox One. Like those things took fucking forever to download, and they were like twenty gigs of pop. Neither one is anywhere near Steam like Steam maxes out my hundred and twenty

megas actually home like Steam is fucking amazing. Yes, Steam. When Steam is downloading shit, I can't view web pages, that's how fucking them rightly it is taking my ship. Might want to throttle it, you know, give yourself five hundred k a second to work with that. I think that what's happening with with with Microsoft and Sony? Do you think they like throttle their bandwidth? Possibly? I think I think I think they're throttling it to

save themselves money, not to I don't know. So, I mean, I've I've gone into my router because I can filter traffic by I P yeah, and filter through to each individual console to see how because I, you know, I like knowing how these things work, how well they work. Yes, Uh, the Xbox One is not fantastic, and the again like it's you know, it runs it like a third of what I get out of Steam. But it still will do four to five megasecond, which is

sufficient. It's acceptable. It's not great, Like if you're downloading a fifty gig game, that's a that's a problem. And the PS four at its best I have seen get up around four mega second too, but lately for me it's been like two hundred k a second. Yeah for these Yeah, for these like eight ten gig downloads or whatever. Like, do you think it's because those downloads are low priority on their end? I don't know, has deemed those low prayers. I don't know. I'm not I'm not a

network engineer. I'm not really qualified to speak to that. All I know is that, as you know, the end user experiences is in those cases on the PS four that is like completely unworkable. That is like, I can't play this tonight. I have to let this download over night slow, which is crazy. I mean, it didn't get that slow for me,

but it has been. You know, there's been situations where it's like, oh, I need to download this game like oh well yeah, it's like, oh, I'm not playing that to night, Like Dying Lights four version of that, it was a code or as a digital copy or whatever. I entered it and I was like, oh, let's play some Dying Light tonight. And then I entered it and looked at him with I mean tomorrow

night. And that's fucking crazy, Like my connection is sufficient to get that game fast, like I download the PC version of it and well under an hour, like twenty minutes or something like that. But uh yeah, it's it's the thing that you know, it would you would think that they would put more of a priority on that, because if they do truly care about killing used games without just you know, killing used games on like some weird

DRM level. Like making the digital game stuff work really really well and making it extra convenient is actually how they solve that totally. And somebody's really been stepping it up on the sales side, like they've been running some really generous sales on stuff lately. But then again, like if I don't want to sit there and download for eight hours, but there's also the thing in the

download que on the website which I use that pretty frequently. Like if I'm putting in a code or whatever, I will do it here at work and just say downloaded my PS four right and then yeah, mom, it's ready to go. Yeah. Think about the average user experience, though, most people are not putting in a free code in the morning and coming home to a download game. Most people sometimes the game the store will update that that time of day. Sometimes they can you can make the purchase there as well,

a lot of people are different. But yes, a lot of people are just browsing games on the store on the console and buying them right there and then like looking at this and going like, well, I'll play this tomorrow. Like for me, it seemed like preloading on Steam was a convenience. It was a nice to have thing, and on the consoles it feels like an absolute necessity for a big game, absolutely where it's just like if

you don't then you're not going to play it that night. If you care about like that minute one experience of playing a game at nine pm or whatever it is, and you're it's something that's hotly anticipated, like you kind of have to preload it because otherwise you're not gonna play anytime soon. If nothing else, I just wish they would give priority to patches, like things you need to play the game, you know, like here's a two gig patch

that's going to take forty five minutes download automatically. What's that do consoles download patches automatically? You can opt out on PS four. You can opt to start the game, but it disables all network stuff if you're not running the latest version. I mean, like if your console is off or in like, it's okay, they will, although the PS four has been kind of

inconsistent about that. For me, yeah, I feel like it. I feel like it might only update games that you've played recently and anything that's like fallen off of your most recently patch. For game that I hadn't played in months yesterday. It does manually pull the Geometry Wars patch. It didn't yank it for me. It's just sometimes I'll turn the console on and it'll like immediately pop up like three patches added downloads because it didn't do it well.

It is off for some reason, but a lot of time it does. But it pops that even if it's finished the download. Are you sure, yes, it says addeds download list. Then you go look and it's already done, and it'll have a time stamp of four in the morning or something like that, so it still shows you that stuff even if it's already downloaded it. I can't remember with PS four, can you set the window? I know with PS three you could for like PlayStation Plus uploads if your saved,

but don't think that's an option anymore. Okay, I think it's all just handled, yeah, because there that window was there is so would power up run power down if you're leaving into that low powered state. It's just kind of doing it when it's doing it. The right way to handle cloud saves is all the time, or it is like every time you turn a

console off, like every and I think it does that now. It wasn't for a while, but I've had pretty good luck with like every time you go into rest mode, it'll just upload all your saves if it's your primary PS four or well you actually that doesn't even matter. It's because each on each individual console, you can set each game to auto upload or not, right, although it may give priority to your primary console. They need on the PS four they need to show you what your space situation is on the

cloud save stuff. Somebody that's abysmal, somebody wrote an email, and then I'll just apologize to that person because we're gonna talk about right now. Yeah, but specifically about that exact thing. The fact that they still limit you to a gig for cloud saves on that system, which is really insane because like my Dragon Age Inquisition saves are like eighty meg. I have like two hundred meg of GTA five saves. Like that's a fourth a fifth to a

fourth of my space. Right every time I get a new game, I have to go delete something else out of the cloud storage. Yeah, I've had to turn off auto upload on several games saves to make room for stuff. Like it's crazy, and like Microsoft is, it's just it's it's just there, like you don't even know how much space you have, because it's

infinite as far as I know. They say that they remember asking them about this stuff prior to the system's launch, and their thing was just like, we work with developers to make sure that the save sizes aren't fucking out of control, and if they need some of the tide of control, we figure that out and then it's not something the users should ever have to deal with,

which I tend to agree with. I remember there was a ton of handwringing, like even with us at the time, because like, well, what if you have a save collision and what if it doesn't sink right? You know, because the three sixty cloud saves could be a real shit show

if things weren't lining up just right. And I had multiple occasions where I got burned by the three sixty with cloud save stuff just because oh there's no outage or oh there's this right, like you're sitting there, You're sitting there eyeballing time stamps, going like our, which one is the actual save?

I want? Like maybe it's the older one I can't remember, right, and the PS four is is in some cases exactly that because every time you're downloading it and granted whatever, like you know, most people only have one PS four, so that like they it doesn't really matter. Yeah, but they went to the trouble of building out this cloud safe feature. It should should it should be good, it should it should be better than it is

because it's it's a nice half thing and all that sort of stuff. But like it's crazy that it's still something that like it users should never have to think about it. Yeah, like how much space they have left? And yeah, totally, but they're you know, both consoles still getting updated frequently. Yeah, they're both They're both continuing to get better. So I'm not going to write them off or anything. Uh what did I play? I keep blinking away at actually diverge and kind of fits some starts. Yeah,

Like I like that game. It's really well made. Yeah, it's not like blowing my mind, Like I don't know, it's good, Yeah, is what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't know. It's like I don't know that I think it blew my mind. Yeah that's kind of thing. But I really really really I guess what I how can I put this? Like it I haven't run in a situation where I feel like I can't put it down, you know, like I'll play it thirty minutes, I'll get a couple of new items, I'll make some progress, and I'm like,

all right, cool, and then I stopped. Well did you have that issue with the ri or did you keep going through that? I mean I played that one in Bursts two, but a lot more consistently or steadily. Did you wind up beating it? Yeah? Okay, I finished it. See I felt kind of the opposite. Yeah, It's like Ori. I played it and I was like, all right, yeah, this is cool. I pick it up, play a couple hours or whatever. With Axiom,

I just played it constantly. I mean, I think we talked about that some last week, that it like those games are largely a personal taste thing because they are like they're from the same genre, but they have very different play styles and and looks and everything, you know, like they're kind of ye see, I don't know. I'll keep going with it like it's it's very good, but it is what it is. Uh. And then uh, I played Dark Souls two on the PlayStation four. Scholar of the

first sin uh It's fine runs a sixty frames a second. For the most part, it's pull like boxed retail release. I didn't know this is coming out. Oh yeah, yeah, so it's weird. The PC version came out last week as an upgrade to the original PC version, so it was still that it was not a free upgrade. No, not at all. In fact, I don't have it in front of me, and I would

need to have in front of me to explain it all. Because so they put out the original PC version last year, then thirty dollars of DLC came out. Now there's this new release with all the DLC. So yeah, if you buy it as a new game, if you didn't own it before, yeah, you get all the new DLC. You also get a Direct x eleven like graphics upgrade. Fun if you own the original game, I think you can upgrade for thirty dollars. I think that's the case. I

believe you get the DLC and the Direct x eleven for thirty dollars. If you have the original game and the DLC, I want to say it's twenty to get to Direct x eleven. It's definitely a chunk of money just to get the graphics upgrade. Like people were kind of upset about it, and like I kind of can understand why. I mean, it's a weird thing because like the upgrades break compatibility inversions. So if they just forced an upgrade, then it would yeah, I guess would yeah, because it invalidates old

old saves. But the other thing is that and this rolled out for free. They've also changed like the like the enemy placements, like just kind of the general layout of where enemies and stuff are and like which paths are open to you. They've gone back and like kind of remixed that basically. Uh, and it's a lot harder now, Like they basically went and took enemies from later in the game and just kind of shoved them earlier, which is

weird. I feel like I've read like different takes on the give the games difficulty now that that it's maybe it's a little harder in the easier areas, but it's it's kind of an even keeled, really experienced throughout kind of having peace and valleys. Huh. Okay. I haven't gotten deep in enough to see that yet, but that's that's interesting. If they took like player data, I don't know, uh, as somebody who played a lot of Dark

Souls too, and then came to this. It's it very much strikes me just as like you see a thing that you know is coming like three hours later, and you just immediately there's like a mental disconnect and then you're like, oh, they put one of those here, huh. You know. It's like it's things that you recognize, you know, it's just bigger enemies, harder enemies and stuff, but they just stick them a lot earlier in the game when you're not as as prepared to take them on, which I

don't know if I'm necessarily appreciating that so much. That's like it's kind of weird, like when, like Jeff, you're talking about like those games are all about memorization, right, Yeah, so I imagine like you know, you know Dark Souls too, if you played it a lot, you probably memorized every single day and every dumb fucking trick years on you. Like a year later in those early zones, I totally remember where all the enemies are

still. Yeah, it's and they're even cases where like they had the thing in the original game where they're you know, the statues that you have to unstatue, you know what I'm talking about Yeah, like the fragrant branch. Yeah, so they've put more of those statues earlier in the game and block off paths that you originally were able to just run right through. So you need branches earlier to actually get into earlier parts of the game. It's weird,

like they've messed with the flow a lot. I don't know if people that really like that game, I'm sure we'll probably appreciate like a different kind of path through it. You know. I was just kind of looking for the same game with better graphics. So the changes there are weird, but

it looks nice on the PS four. It's weird that it's not optional because like you know that DMC Definitive Edition has that new hardcore mode, but that's a thing you turn on real you know, like you can play just the same game with better graphics, or you can turn on this tweaked mode. I'm surprised you can't just like get on this tweaked mode a darks There's there's no concept of like classic mode or anything like that. It's just here's here's

how it is now. So that's that's how it is, for better or worse. But yeah, it looks it looks nice on the PS four. Nice to see one of those games running more or less at sixty frames a second on the console. It's like that MK two revision where they changed all the fatalities. When was that it was like version three, version or whatever. I don't I can't remember, changed to change all the motions. Yeah, where they're just like, oh, all the motions to do all the

fatalities got out, let's change a little. Was that before it was super wide release? Yeah? It might have been. Okay, I don't remember that happening. Yeah, it was being on the Internet at the time. We're like, what the fuck is like It's like a very definite reaction to the early Internet, right figuring everything out. It's like, okay, there's no more mystery left in this game, and they're just like, well check this out. Fuck you huh. In my memory, MK three is the

Internet game. M K two was the one that I just went to the arcade and learned. YEA three was the one one I had, like a well access or whatever. Dark Souls has this weird bug in it that, as far as I can tell, is present in the PS four version. I guess it was in the PC version. Where the weapon durability is tied to it's basically calculated on a per frame basis, meaning that yeah, so so double the frame rate, like double the rate of weapons degrading effectively.

Uh and sure enough, like I barely got to the like there was a stretch between two bonfires early on where like my main hand weapon was breaking by the time I got to the next bonfire. Weird, like it was granted, is like a very feeble weapon, so you know, maybe less of a problem later on. But it just seems I've seen a lot of form chatter about this bug, Like it just it seems crazy that it's been in the PC version this long and then it gets to market on a console version.

But it looks to somewhere I guess, yeah, I'm sure it's probably that easy, right my game, bro, Well, wasn't that the reason? You know, like there was a bunch of fucking weird frame rate ship that made them really reluctant to raise the frame rate originally? Right? Well, Dark Souls one like that that the PC the PC port, like all the DS fixed stuff. Yeah, it would it would cost some weird behavior occasionally, like sliding down a ladder could make you fall through the world and

stuff like that. Awesome. Uh, to the point that that DSFix actually just has a key bound to the frame rate toggle, so you could just hit that and drop back to thirty. Yeah. So I guess it would also mess up like the jumping physics, like the distance you would jump sometimes was weird and stuff. So if I was about to make a hard jump or like slide down a ladder, would just hit backspace and go to thirty

frames a second and do it and then go back to sixty weird. Yes, it's very weird, but yeah that you know, that re really seems all right, like it's got all the dealc in it, which is supposed to be quite good. I would like to see it at some point. But it's a lot of souls, like coming right off of blood Borneness. It's a lot of those kind of games to play. Yeah. Uh, but anyway, it's all I got for video games, Okay, going Once, I got some snacks in Mexico that were called snacks s N A X.

I was hoping there would be an X in there somewhere. Yep. I opened it up. It was two hot dogs. Wait, what dogs aren't snacks? Yeah, I'm sure they are. I'm just telling you what I saw between meal snack. It's more like a Viennese sausage. I don't have a couple of hot dogs before dinner, but full size, full size hot dogs, and they were actually individually wrapped. Was it just the just the wiener? Yeah, no, no bun. But it did come with like a sauce packet. It was sort of like a It's like a soy

sauce barbecue sauce mix. Sounds good, that sounds fun. I ate it, and you're here to tell the tale. Yep. I also got pizza and ham flavored pringles separate. Okays, are good. I was trying to parse that in my head for a second. Ones Really, I thought you Serrano ham. I thought you meant like pizza and ham in one on a pizza. Well yeah, but you wouldn't really call out the ham pizza and a snack flavoring and just pizza flavor Serrano ham ham chips. It's a Spanish

cured meat. Okay, I know Serrano peppers. Yes, Pedro Serrano is the guy from Major League all right, I am just learning all kinds of stuff here being edified left and right. I'm going to the same part of Mexico next month, and I'm staying at a place where it's infinite free food and booze. I'm sure it's of an excellent quality. Actually, my mom stayed there, and she said it's actually really good stuff. All right, So I eat infinite amounts of good food and drink infinite booze all I went

to. I went to a wedding at a resort in Mexico, and that stuff was pretty good. Actually, that's pretty great. I don't want it. Pretty dangerous. I don't want that's dangerous. I don't want that, like, especially in a wedding. I can't speak for your situation, but the temptation to get out of bed and immediately start drinking is it's going to

happen impossible to ignore. Yeah, I guess you have like a little mini bars and stuff in your Oh yeah, no, that's like you can't like, oh boy, like we got like we were handed uh like blended margaritas, like as we checked into the Yeah, it's literally everywhere you turn, like you can't escape alcohol. I guess when you're swimming there, they have like bars like you swim up just and free booze. Yeah, I know you, like you can't go three feet without another bar. Yeah, I'm

gonna I'm gona have a raspy voice on the next podcast fun. I might do some of that. I'm probably gonna spend like ninety nine percent of the time at the resort drinking free stuff. But I do want to do some divy stuff. I've never done that. I think you need to, Like, you should try to keep a running tally and then compare how much it would it cost to just pay for all that booze and drink at home in

the dark, versus like going somewhere specifically to drink. Part of the appeal is a beach and it being super nice and okay, all right, Yeah that's part of the appeal then, because when you talk about it, you just like, yeah, I'm gonna go drink and eat all his food. I'm like, dude, Yeah, Like, if you don't just check into a motel six across the street from a KFC and fucking go nuts, no, I could drink for much cheaper. I want to drink on a beach. Okay, Yeah, that's a big part. That's valid. Yeah,

just make sure you don't drink and dive. No, no, no, all right, great, all right, it's time for the news. Who's ready from news? Good news me? Okay, I planned to glad your games slapped me across the face with news DMX involved in gas station hubbub. Well, we already covered the headline making late breaking stuff at the top of the show. But how abouts Nintendo News, let's hear it, because they

had that big fat Nintendo Direct yeah, on the first of April. But as the press release points out, the latest Nintendo Direct is definitely no joke, So let's get into it. I'll be the judge of that. Well, yeah, they announced a bunch of new amibo stuff like like, yeah, I bet they did. Would you Would you take the order of the announcements in the press release as any indicator of Nintendo's priorities? I might, okay, because the amibo stuff is all right at the top. Yeah,

for some reason, they are selling like crazy right at the top. They are doing quite well with that stuff these days, I bet. And anecdotally discernible reason. Notice a lot of people on Twitter getting really upset or just agitated when new amibos are coming in. Yeah, people, definitely there's an antiness. There's an anxiety associated with it. I'm so glad. I don't

give a shit too. There's a lot of them. I feel like I was right there in the wheelhouse of people that might give a shit, giving given my crippling Skylanders addiction that I dealt with for two or three years. But you didn't want the figure, and like you weren't appreciating the figure for its own like inherent value, like you like the magic effect of putting it on the portal and having things in the game happen. Yeah, amibos don't

have that. That's the thing I know. That's the thing that breaks all the Amibo stuff for me, is that the things they do with video games seems fucking dumb. They do nothing and nothing of value. I haven't yet to see that. How many are there now? Oh god, who knows. Probably be more than that, I don't think. So. They keep announcing new ones. We might call that names. Bosh, that's yeah, that's probably what the that's yeah, okay, uh sure if you say so.

Uh. They have now cast John dot com email address right in. That's gonna do it for this week's show. And yep, uh they not much of a new ambo. Uh they not as cards forget the actual figures. That thing is there is there's now a new line of Amibo cards on the way, which we'll say it will also interact with your games in the same superficial ways. Can they be read by the ear reader? I highly doubt it. Damn it, somehow I doubt it. I still have them. I got mine, I had all the cards. I got a I

got a ziploc bag with all the cards in it. You don't play Urban Champion or something like a game Boy. Uh, it seems like the cards. So the cards are n FC so they can scan and car Are you the same data as the figures. This doesn't really go into a lot of detail about why the cards are a good thing, other than I'm sure they're a lot cheaper to make. Got like Burdo's batting average on there? I

don't know. Do they do different things? Was it like, hey, we decided not to make any more of these figurines, but here as a card, I think the ladder. Are they cheaper? I mean, I dude, I don't know. They don't have the prices. Listen, do they say what do they give me some names? Who's on these cars, doesn't say it's just just the top line item. Ambo Cards, a totally

new form of Amibo, is coming this fall Mark McGuire. The first set of Ambo cards will be based on Animal Crossing characters and will be compatible with the Animal Crossing a Happy Home Designer. That's a totally different which we'll get to. But I mean the point is like, yeah, you know,

different games will require either cards or figures or both or whatever. But I don't think the cards have any inherent capability that the figures don't, right, Yeah, yeah, you would think they're they're like I said, they're NFC. They're they're launching an NFC reader for the non new three DS models. Huh yep. It's a little dongle, little uh portally looking thing. Can you plug that and the circle pad pro And at the same time, I don't know, it doesn't say how it connects. It's a good question.

I really want them now to release a like eye tracker that you can put on the top. It can make the three D better them all. In the same time, I believe there was a there was a grassroots effort to take say the Skylanders portal was just USB and you could just plug it in to a PC, which actually I think worked with their weird flash game. But anyway, it in fact it did. It definitely did. I did that. But I think you could also rewrite the data on a Skylanders figure

to make a different Skylanders figure, So I stuff's just standard NFC. At some point you could probably do all kinds of fucking nefarious weird ship. Yeah. I was gonna say, use your portal of power to steal passport information. Yeah that's power. Sure, I guess so. Yeah, but I bet you know if they're gonna work with this animal crossing thing, it's about like fashion and design and animal crossing characters and all that sort of stuff,

like those are the things you make figures for. I guess they don't have the inherent like like the Wee Fit Trainer. Everyone looks at that and goes like, ah, that classic Nintendo figure. I need that, whether I want to play the game or not. Yeah, I guess I guess you could see. Well, it says that they could see them establishing a lower class amibo that is card only. Here's a lamp that is just like, yeah, well this does say they will be based on animal crossing characters.

But but you're right. Yeah, like it's like here's here's window trim on a card from her house, yeah or something. You might be right, or you know, it could just be like, you know, the there are two characters and animal crossing that matter, and you make figures for those. I guess that's true, and and then the rest are all cards or something. You know, maybe they go that way with it. I'm not sure. Uh. They announced Splatune me amibos. They announced yarn Yoshi amibos

made out of actual yarn, real yarn. Yep. All right, very same d see at this point. Yeah, kind of more more Mario Kart eight Ambo Integration get Suits gets costumes for like MegaMan and Sonic and pac Man in Mario Kart if you scan the appropriate ambos. So that's just like a me dressed up as MegaMan, right, that's typically I don't know how Mario Kart handles costumes, but yes, it's basically unlockable outfits because you bought the

action figure. Okay, it's not like you have MegaMan and Mario Kart and since you have I don't know, MegaMan hat or something, who knows what they're going to pass into that game, you know, like they could they could do it right. Last time Mega Man drove a go kart, it went pretty well. Which one was that Rockman Battle and Child Chase? I forget what they called it here. They eventually did bring it over and then

they have something called Ambo tap Nintendo's the Greatest Bits. Wait is that when you put it on a shoebox and then yeah, god, yep, exactly what that is? Play classic Nintendo games using Ambo. Within those Greatest Bits, users can download the free application from the Ninteno e Shop and tap any amibo to unlock gameplay highlights from Select Nes and Super in Nes games. Like when they say highlights, I assume that just meant like a video clip but

demos, but it does say play classics. Could just be like if you tap Mario to this app, then it lets you play one level of Donkey Kong. Right, it sounds a lot like it has a link to the shop. It sounds like the full game. It sounds like any s remix. You know, it's like here's here's a like thirty second thing you can play. But that would that was at least they were trying to chop it up in different ways and stuff. This just is I bet it's just demos

four old games more like Smash Brothers. It's like, oh, here's the Masterpieces collection or whatever, like go get the Sword and the first Zelda. It's Nintendo pivoting. No are they pivoting before our very eyes? I don't know. I mean, I mean they just announced the mobile stuff. So yeah, yeah, I suppose that's yeah, sure they're not. They're not giving up on their old ship though. Oh I know. So it's like there's plenty of other news here if you want to say they're expanding. Yeah,

yes, they're diversifying. I just I never I like, I figured Amibos would do just fine, but like the apparent fervor around them, there's a little bit startling. Mean, you got to capitalize on that when it's there. Yeah, And for me, I you know, I think the real test is like how many of the ones that sell out do they reissue?

Because you think about the early days of Skylanders, the supply problem created a lot of hype and fervor, and maybe they constrained supply a little bit, but also they probably lost some money there by not having as many to sell, and they eventually put all that stuff back out with the amibos, like they're they say they're retiring them or something. They're they're doing beanie babies,

they're doing straight up Disney Vault type thing. Yeah, or they're like oh you know, or no, because the Vault did they take it back out, whereas these are just like, hey, we made this many we fit trainers, and that's gonna be it because not that many people actually want them. That extra sucks and like, okay, well, you know, if you didn't get Marth amibo then or you know, then they can end up reissuing it, which I think actually is how they're solving the Marth problem

is there. I haven't been following this super closely, so I could be super wrong, but I think they're issuing another Marth Amibo in a different pose that is like fire Ambom Edition Marth that will do all the same stuff as the other Marth figure. It'll just look different. So people that bought that first one that has become rare don't feel like they've been burned or something like that. I don't know, like that's the whole thing's nuts. Yep,

if you open to them, you're already fucked anyway. So like, if you're sitting there thinking that these are collectible, like, then you shouldn't open them or write data to them. I feel queasy right now. Yeah, probably just fine with my un Kai watch coins. Good. Yes, let's move on to video game news. What do you say, Mario Maker, do they announce any of what any of the new amibo figures are? Yeah?

I mean, like, you know, the Splatoon figures are Inkling Girl, Inkling Boy, and Inkling Squid. They asked a release date for that too, right, so yeah, May twenty nine. I thought that had already been yeah, p yeah, that's pretty soon. Yeah, it's not that far off. Uh, Mario Bakers coming out in September. Uh. It sounds like they ever confirmed that you were going to be able to share levels online because it says that here. Yes, I think I think that

is what this thing finally was. Is they finally used verbiage that makes that sound like a good thing, where they're like, yes, you can shared worlds, packs of levels shared, like and did they confirm two three in world kind of like pixel sets and stuff. I'm not sure about that.

I think they confirmed physics changes sets the thing I think they might actually be doing right by that thing on top to bottom, so it delay it right, Yeah, okay, hopefully to include all that stuff that we wont There's a two hundred cc mode coming to Mario Kart eight cool for the first time ever. They were a quick to point out they've never had a two hundred cc mode before. That actually sounds pretty cool. I'll play that faster Mario Kart. I'll do that, I guess, so sure. Maybe okay.

Uh a new fatal frame coming to EU. Shan mcgat me Tense and fire Emblem crossover is happening. Whoa, Yeah, they announced that a while ago. This is what. Did they say anything specific about it or it was kind of reaffirmed, like, hey, the still exactly. This press release is a very top level. I meant to watch that video before we came in here to get some of the nuance, but did not have time.

Uh yeh, She's Wily World coming this fall. They say, uh sixty four and DS games are on virtual console now, the WU Virtual Console. Oh yes, yes, yes, I sometimes I forget you. Distinction are on the WU Virtual I think they were. Weren't they on there briefly like a year ago and they took him down, i'd swear, or maybe it was three DSc shop. Do you think it's TV and game pad? Yeah? Really, that's cool. It is cool, I would assume, so I haven't done it, but yeah, let's see why I hang on Warrio

We're Touched as one of the early ones. While playing Nintendo DS games, the TV and game pad combinations will provide various options for bull screen layouts. Oh so maybe you could put both of them on the the game pad or something if you want to. Or oh, and what their background looks like? I guess it just a black screen with two screens like? Or do they do Super game Boy borders? Yes, Warrio We're Touched, and Donkey

Coming sixty four are Radiance coming? Says a great game mulkey rap okay, a good rap uh and then yeah, Animal Crossing Happy Home Designer, I guess is the only like actual new game announced out of all this, which basically sounds like an animal Crossing with everything but the house decorating taken away. I'm sure they'll build it out, you know, sure there'll be plenty more to the decoration stuff, but you know, no more, no more picking

fruit. We're paying Tom Nook. That's all the fun stuff an animals. Presumably the house is already paid off and you're just here to dress it up. Oh yeah, you well, animals will ask players to design houses for them, and it's up to designers and making to meet the animal's requests by furnishing and decorating the home. Yeah, it's probably like make your Own music video where they say, like they cut out all the pictures of the money, but leaven that picture of that bird. The house is fat fat.

Yes, this sounds very heavily tied into that new Amibo card series. So take that as you will, scan it. I mean you there were animal crossing e cards. Man, you get that d card reader. Scan in a fucking desk, scan in a copy of Donkey Kong for your house. Have you guys heard of box Boys from how Yes, I've heard good things about that. Watched the trailer for it. I kind of want to play it. Yes, it looks neat. Yeah that that came out the day

after the direct Uh. You know. Other random stuff about Puzzle and dragon z. There's a new fire Emblom game coming m on the three DS. Pokemon Rumble whirld no idea what Pokemon Rumble is it's free anybody? What is Pokemon Rumble is that somebody has to know? Here, Pokemon Puzzle and Dragons. I thought that was Pokemon Shuffle. There is no no puzzle on dragons. Is Mario Pokemon No? No, but like there's a Pokemon rip off of Puzzle and Dragon. Yeah. I thought Pokemon Shuffle was Shuffle. Yeah,

because Shuffle is already free. What is that game? I don't know what Rumble World is, but they do refer to it as the latest in the Pokemon Rumble series. It has to be some Yeah, Pokemon Rumble was it? Yeah? It was a we wear game. Okay, uh this this is listed as free to download with paid content. Oh so this is basically free to play. It's driving me crazy. What is the Pokemon Shuffle game? Pokemon Puzzle, Yeah, puzzle, That's what I'm thinking of.

Okay, Pokemon Rumble is like real time combat and stuff. It's like a weird yeah, but I think Pokemon Shuffle is, uh is the one that is similar to Puzzle and Dragons. They got a bunch of football players to sing a song. Yeah. The Pokemon or not don't want to cause any trouble, right, They're just here to do the Pokemon shlf. Great. Moving on, there's an update to codename Steam that people have probably heard about by now. It speeds things up. That sounds great and also baffling.

Yes, that was the main thing that sucked about that game, and it shipped with that in it. I don't know, I wonder like, you know, like I've seen plenty of people saying, like I, even if that wasn't a problem, there's a lot of other stuff I don't like about this. I don't think it's a dynamite game, but that was easily the thing I disliked the most about it. This can't be a oh, you

know what, Well, we let's decide to make this speed up. I've got that's a I've got to believe that's a like under the hood horsepower. Oh. I one hundred percent believe that they didn't grasp ad of time that people were gonna be upset about that any focus play that game and not happened. That's not a new thing, you know, like old x Comm games

did that. Like there are turn based strategy games where you just sit there waiting for the CPU to go. But I feel like that was the sort of thing where that was you know, the checkers on the twenty six hundred member we played game room. Yes, the emphasis on the hundred yea, yeah, you know, maybe they're not paying attention. Is that live now? As far as I know, I kind of want to try it?

Then well that's it does say upcoming, but this was from last week, so I'm like, hang on, yeah, I know it doesn't say exactly when it's coming out. It's coming alongside that blood Born loadings patch yep, yes, please understand, a couple of street Pass games are coming. There's an attack on Titan game coming. I didn't find the blood Born load times to be that much of a problem. What sometimes sometimes in that game,

it seems like after a death you need a little time to reflect. Anyway, I guess, And I had my phone, so I just looked at my phone. I guess, Uh, mewtwo was coming to smash anybody? Yes, any view two fans in the house. I mean, I'm a MU two fan. But five bucks what? I don't know why I had that reaction to it. Like fighting games sell characters all the time, but for some reason, the concept of paying for another Smash Brothers character really reusing

me. The wrong way, probably because there's so many of them and they're not as intricate as like a street fight or four character. You know, they have like a few basic specials. See all right, you don't understand take out tripping, I don't know, or put it back in. I don't know which, whichever one? Uh? And then I guess you guys have seen that ballot, right, Yeah, you can go in and vote for your Yeah yeah, wait, they're taking votes for Smash Brothers. Go

to smash bros dot com. I saw people writing in brock Lesner, I would like that. Oh. I tweeted out that everyone should vote for whileauig uh and it actually got a lot of sport. A lot of people seem to agree with me. And then I saw Nintendo said Walluigi is not qualified. He you cannot do Wallauigi therest trophy. There were some pretty specifics for

eligibility here. Uh, Brocklesner fully inenoricable. I think he might be in there's I didn't unlock everything, but he's probably in there as an assist trophy. Okay, he uses his big dumb sword tattoo to big dumb cut people or something. What else? This this doesn't say that old ass cartoon with the kid with the tattoos and he takes the tattoos off and Dutch anyway, that's pretty cool. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of like people that are

disqualified if they're in there as an assist trophy or anything. Yeah, like they have to be from a specific pool of characters like all this stuff. Also, if I knew that that was coming and I was working on Smash Brothers, it would be the most vindictive fucking assist trophy list in the world. He'd be like, No, we don't want to make wa Luigi because he fucking sucks. Make sure he's in there as a trophy because fuck him. I'm sure this info is out there where, but this press release makes

no mention whatsoever of what's actually gonna come to this ballot. It doesn't say like riesem like they've guaranteed that they're including anyone. It's just like, oh, if you want to make a request, it's like it's like the rock band fucking request song thing that like they'll look at it and go is that

feasible? Right? Well, there will the last The last sentence of this is fans can use this ballot to vote for which character they'd like to see added to Super Smash Brothers from into the Three d S and WEU as a playable character period. Yeah. I think that's not like, oh, we'll take a look at the ballots or winner, winner will be announced in May. Like I'm just they probably just put that on there to have a centralized

funnel for bullshit. Direct your hopes here. It's just like you fucking stop hitting us up across the fucking board about what fucking character you want in this game. Go to this website, click submit, and oh, we'll tally it up. You know, it's stupid. I think it does say somewhere that like, yeah, you can enter on this ballot by you know, anytime before October tenth or something insane like that. Yeah, there's no indication

in this but no year. There's no indication of this will culminate in anything whatsoever, which I can kind of appreciate. That was pretty much it Popeye, Okay, a Nintendo classic, play fucking Popeye in that game. Yeah, they did put that out, didn't they. Gretzky's right, the wrench from Wreck and Crew. Yeah, okay, yeah, no, that's an

assistant. No, I don't know, pretty uh bland direct overall, I think, like the last direct, I don't know, hearing that Mario Maker seems to be potentially on the right track here, like that to me is crucial. Yeah, but that's because you really want Mario Maker. I'm just saying, like top level, like not much in the way of game announcements or these things. They're never three like they you know, the last one, the last one yielded the Jew's Mask three DS, like you know,

that was a pretty big announcement. Not really, that was a pretty big announcement. It was a big announcement. It was it's like a here's another rerelease. We've been doing some of these lately. Here it was. It was predictable as hell, but yeah, it was the type of thing you announced it a Nintendo Direct, not Eddie three. But it was still as who would care? It made it impact people cared who those people are?

Crazy? Okay, sure whatever, anyway, whatever, you know, wait Tilly three for the big stuff, hopefully hopefully, I mean yeah, like nose Elda, so there's gonna be something who remembers on live? Oh yeah? Oh yeah, well what get ready to forget about on live? Because it doesn't exist anymore. Online is shutting down completely. They're streaming game services going away, didn't they They they pivoted, yes, yes, twenty twelve. I looked up. It was like as they they were going bankrupt and

then they kept it around to some other type of service. They laid off a lot of people in twenty twelve, and uh, they sort of scaled down their service. They launched a one hundred dollars micro console quote unquote, yeah, which was the thing that you could stream the games too. That was a while ago though, that's yeah, it's almost three years since that happened. They pivoted because they were no, no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. The micro console came out in twenty ten. Yeah, the layoffs

and the restructuring were in twenty twelve. Uh, yeah, they yeah, they they they changed the plan midway through because it became at some point they were just like selling digital games and then some of them you could stream. Something was it was like a hybrid service where you were basically buying games that you could either download or stream right instead of a subscription service, and you could stream everything. Yeah, so so people that bought those hybrid games will

actually still be able to keep the downloaded games on Steam. You just obviously will not be able to stream them anymore. Sure that will thing reminded me of game Tap, Yeah, where it was like here's the subscription service, but like they're not getting games at a rate that makes you want to care. Yes, this gameplays still exist. Yeah, it's still out there.

So the you know, obviously not super surprising since we hadn't heard much out of online for a while that they're going away, but I was surprised to some extent to hear that it was still a going concern. Yes, But the interesting aspect of the story is that they have sold their patent portfolio to Sony, which is kind of crazy because Sony already spent a boatload on Guy Kai. I wonder if this just prevents someone else from getting something similar and

fucking wraps it up. So that's what's crazy about this, right, Like any pattent sit on live had that that we're not somehow replicated and Guy Kai's tech like like all those things now exist at Sony, So maybe Sony, yeah doubling down on PlayStation now, maybe that thing's been doing really well. Have you guys messed with any of the sheer play stuff. Really, I like that last firmware doubled the frame rate potentially, that doesn't Yeah, I

don't know. I just I just don't really have a scenario where which I would do that. Yeah, I don't know. I was looking for I was looking for something that I couldn't find an acting verge over the weekend, and I was asking Kessler about it, and he was like, you should

just share play me so I can just see what you're talking about. But getting up and going, yeah, I was gonna say that sounds like something who works for Sony would say, because they like I was like obviously all up on everything that console can do, and like wait what, oh right, I guess it can do that can't. But more to the point, it's like we're already chatting in this text window, like i'd have to go

in the other room booth thing. I could send you an invite go back to the place in the game, Like I could say, so, can you beat this boss for me? I can see the appeal in some cases, but but a lot of the time it's just kind of more effort than it's worth. It seems the sort of thing that makes sense, like if you're already right there chatting with someone. Yes, if I had been in the game at the part I was talking about, then you could give control

to him and he would delete your safe Yep. Oh, hopefully finally you'll be free from this nightmare. Yeah, you know. That's there's not a lot of like not a lot of like hard conclusions you can draw from this, other than to say, like, well, Tony has further beefed up there kind of on demand streaming efforts, And who's to say what they're gonna do with that stuff at very least their patent portfolio guarding it. Yes, yeah, I mean what they can do or what they are legally allowed to

do with that tech has has expanded. Well, I wonder if they had to license anything from on live, oh, like if they already had an arrangement in place of that stuff. This could just be a long term cost saving measure sort of continuing to pay whoever gets these patents. Let's just get

the patents ourselves. I don't know. I was like the part of me that the boar's anti competitive nature or behavior, you know, like that the nature of this kind of business sort of wishes somebody like a Microsoft had snapped that stuff up just to see it's some healthier kind of head to head stuff going on. Yeah, but at the same time, I don't care about streaming games. I mean they were probably for sale for years. Yeah,

like if if somebody else wanted that stuff. I remember my limited exposure to on Live was that it was not away I wanted to play game. Yes, well, I mean that's not to say it couldn't have gotten better. Oh sure, And I'm sure it has since online has done stuff like like the PlayStation now stuff that I've used has been better than online that I used years ago. But like, I still don't want to play games that way. Yea, like until they like they effectively need to eliminate the latency altogether

for me to care, and that's gonna be tough for a while. Yeah, or you know, you know, maybe that becomes a potential solution to their suck ass fucking download speeds. Is hey, stream it right now while it downloads in the background, or you know, like that's maybe a bad scenario because you need that bandwidth. But yeah, maybe it's like Okay, well you're we're gonna download this game for you, But if you just want to start playing it right now? You can stream it, are you're pretty

cool? Yeah? Or you know, it could be a demo thing. It's like, hey, here's how you play totally like like demos and stuff like that. Could totally work that way. Yeah. I guess we'll find out whatever happens, it'll be on a PlayStation, that's for sure. I bet there's some way around some of those patents. Well yeah, other people to get in there. Yeah, I mean it's it's a video stream that you're con I mean, it's not sure which plays Pokemon would be in violation,

wouldn't it. Yeah, maybe Quantum Break is not coming out next year. Here is your Weekly delayed. In the twenty sixteen story, that was a great way to remind me that on Brick exists. Yeah, it's kind of been right. They've been pretty They went dark with that game for quite a while. I still really like Remedy in what they do, so I'm certainly excited to see what happens with that, But not this year. They're getting weirder with the TV stuff, you think, Yeah, because that whole

thing was like a supposed to be a hybrid TV show. Everybody thinks that, but like I it's just cut scenes, like they said that ages ago. It's just F and V cut scenes like theyre may be branching and stuff, but there's no actual TV show attached to this. I thought there was some weird way you access it other than just scene in the game. I

don't think so. Like I think that because he got announced alongside it absolutely got announced at the same time that they were saying like, yeah, we're getting in TV production and stuff, which sounds like they're not in anyway that shut down. I think people People and and Remedy was out there saying that, you know, they were kind of looking at the way that television series tell stories and how they could like use that in their games and stuff like

that. Like I think people podcasts be a beacon. Yeah, I think people can flat with a lot of things about that stuff. But as far as I can tell, Quantum Break is just a third person shooter with F ANDB cut scenes. In any event, I would like to see that more

FMV from Remedy. Yeah. Maybe I wonder if maybe if Battlefield Hardline kind of beat him to the punch on the whole episodic TV construction episodes of a show, Well, Alwake did it for one thing, who's to say that, Yeah, who's to say that they were going to huge directly to that format anyway? But also but also yes, Alan Wake totally did that. Oh you're like, Alan Wake totally has a last time on type thing.

Yep, here's some beach Boys of course. I don't know. I always like remedies FMV stuff when it's off, it's on the fringe of the game where you kind of have to like stop and look at it, look at a TV screen. Yeah, Wake, And that seems like if it's if it's up in your face, it's gonna like raise the stakes on how good that stuff has to be because kitchy funny right in their previous games, right, totally, Yeah, the Address unknown stuff and night Springs and all those

things. So yeah, once the FMV is like the centerpiece of the storytelling. I don't know. I remember the Twisted Metal reboot on PS three tried to do like all FMB cut scenes and kind of kitchen stuff and it just didn't work at all. Yeah, Yeah, we shall see next year. Was that Gunman twisted Pixel gun string Stringer FMV? Wasn't there a Yeah? There was the dlc add on that was basically just mad Dogmacree. Yeah,

the Wavy two ban, that's what I'm thinking. Yes, FMV has like who would have thought it has a place in twenty fifteen in video games? M. Yeah, it certainly does. Yes, it's Quantic Dream working on now. I don't think they said since Beyond came out. Uh. And then Square Nix is running some weird ass Twitch stream for the next two days where they are purporting to announce something eventually. I guess I don't know any

ideas. It's probably as X right. Well, I I you showed me like the weird static E video feed that they put on vine or whatever. Yeah, I just figured that it was Kanda Lynch three and this time they're taking the video effects to like new levels. Certainly effects certainly a possibility. Is there any gold not thought I saw? Yeah, it was like a lot of black and gold. Yeah. I think a sequel to Dax they have to come up with. It's going to be orange and like a Bluish

brand departure Huge department. Yeah. Uh. Final Fantasy seven remastered on phones. It could happen the Twitch. The twitch channel name was Can't Kill Progress M, which sure, you know that sounds like some future, kind of your kind of dystopian like cyberpunk like transhuman future. That sounds like a slogan

from that shure. And I feel like they, I mean, they've said as much about like, you know, I feel like I went to some meeting that was like, we're gonna talk about the future of X. Yeah, obviously that last game was didn't but of course they're gonna make another one of those. Yeah. Uh uh. I think I want to say Wednesday seems to be what they're targeting for the actual announcement right now. It's just a feed of like a live action feed of a guy in a room.

Someone's gonna like lying on the floor, bust into the room and throw that guy a gigantic sword and a spiky hair wig. Uh uh. It seemed it almost like I might be wrong, but it almost seemed like there was an aspect of like switch Place Pokemon too, that thing, because they seemed to be taking votes from people on what the guy should do next. It's like the thing with Sessler, kind of I don't know, weird high concept marketing stuff. I don't know. Just tell us what your video game is.

Tell us Yeah, Like, if it's a Day Sex sequel, then like you'd think that enough people would care about that on tone that you don't need to do some big splashy thing like for a new IP or something like that. Yeah, maybe you need like that extra kind of leg up. Maybe there's something. How much did that sell Day Sex? Yeah, well enough for them to talk about making another one. Indeed, Well, we'll find out in a few short hours, I guess. Alright. Emails pomdcast

a giant bomb dot com. Yeah, emails, it's getting some emails here. Really, it's my favorite part of the show, is it? Is it? Really? Yeah? In the course of looking up the press release for the Nintoo direct I realized that I've been getting their download report for the last I don't know years. Are you still getting that thing? Have you kept up on it? I read it every so often, and I wish

that it was written worse. Okay, I guess I thought I had been taking off that mailing list, and I, just like I said, we discovered it. I started looking at those things and I was like, should we should we? I don't know, they don't they don't write. Look, the quality of the writing about whoever writes the descriptions of downloadable games on

Nintendo services like speaks English as the first language, like that. It's there's stuff in there that like, Okay, the writing is actually like totally serviceable, and that kind of that kind of thinking sort of sort of defeats Yes, what what we were going with. Yeah, that's why I didn't even bring it up earlier. I looked at that stuff and I was like, this is two middle of the road. Yeah, this is not going to

do it. Yeah, I mean you could, you could inflect and inject a bunch of shit into it. Like at the end of the day, Like the writing is fine, and it's not fucking total lunacy, and it's not like someone had to write a paragraph about a fucking notebook for your DS. Yeah, fucking farming massage simulators. And why was it carbon? My notebook? Carbon note book? Carbon? Because they did different colors, right?

Was that just their stand in for black? I guess okay, because it made me think of like some kind of space age carbon fiber notebooks or fucking indestructible space age notebook. Yeah, totally space age polymers go into papers made out of carbon nanotubes. Weird. This email comes from Stephen Kevlar.

Yes, yeah, I mean I did. At some point Nintendo got it into their head that they probably need to take all their downloadable stuff a little more seriously, and the quality of the games is generally a little bit higher, you know, Meme Run notwithstanding, Well, that's gone right, Yeah, I know that's that's the real tragedy. What's happened there? I actually I meant to go, like, look at that guy's Twitter again to see if he ever said, yeah, I got pulled down? Can we stole

all the assets? Turns out just patching out the Call of Duty game a gun wasn't It wasn't enough. Somebody else, one of the other asset owners noticed pretty much all of something awful, hates us for stealing their stuff. So all right. Email from Stephen about dev hate mail. Hey, guys have been following the site for about a year, and I've noticed that you

guys can be pretty critical and sometimes harsh when discussing some controversial release. I appreciate and enjoy these discussions, but I thought crossed my mind end recently. I wonder if they've received any hate mail from anonymous dev's defending their game if not, Have you guys ever had any unpleasant encounters the developer to show, like E three your packs? Any stories would be nice, all anonymous if

necessary, Yeah, sure, yeah. I mean generally the process is that a developer gets super fucking pissed, but directs all of that rage at the public relations people at their company, as if somehow it's a PR person's job at their own their own Oh yeah, you hear about that constantly. And then that PR person calls you and goes, we think the reviews wrong, and you go okay, and that's the end of it, because like,

what are you gonna you know, It's like I bet you do. And my impression is a lot of the times that they make those phone calls, though they're strictly perfunctory, it's just like I have to do this. It's my job. I have to make this, have to be able to tell them that I called you, right like they know, they know damn well that you're not going to do a thing. Yeah, but they have to try. Yeah, I hate you so much. I see. Yeah, heard about that stuff a lot more in the game spot days for us at

least. Yeah, post game Spot, I don't know what it was someone I feel like we've gotten exactly one or I can think of exactly one thing that I've gotten about a review score, and it was one of the soul caliber games. But uh where it was just like, what do you think it should be higher? I was like, okay, I mean the response on that end is always like if you have a if you have a you know problems, if you think it is factually incorrect, if if there are

problems with the facts of this review, then let's talk. If you're gonna say you think the game is better than I, then I did, or or that the reviewer did, then like this is a meaningless conversation. I had that a couple of times a Game Informer, a Ride review. These are both indie games, and like the creator of the game that I would give a low score two would be like what the fuck? Like this game is so much better than the score you gave it, and like it wasn't

about like you a factual it's like better. You want to write back and say you have spent like multiple years working on this and are maybe a little too close to it to say that as someone who just played it and didn't really like it, Like I kind of have the right to say I didn't

like it. That's kind of my job. Yeah yeah, I mean so it game Spot we had a large enough staff to where I mean myself, like as the head of reviews, would take all those calls for any review except for reviews that I had written, and then like you know, Alex would take them or Greg or you know, we'd like we'd have you know, so that it it because they would potentially make it personal if you feel like you are under a personal attack by someone. So we've kind of set

up that to have that layer there. But like we don't have enough people for that. I guess no one does. But also like that stuff just doesn't happen the way it used to. Like people were always fucking trying to crawl down our throats about GameSpot reviews like they thought they were going to get somewhere with it, and it was like, okay, I mean if you think that there are real and occasionally, I mean, you know, like people are human, Like occasionally there'd be like mistakes like oh wait, the

game totally does have a voice chat. You just somehow missed this thing, and you know you'd have to make retractions. You have to make it right and can try to move on and try to do better next time. But I've seen it happened more with PR people, where it's like PR people mad that they didn't agree with the score you gave and again not a factual error whatever, but it's like, oh my god, I can't believe you didn't.

Well, it's like usually that they're the ones coming there, because they're the ones that have your phone number, they're the ones coming to you, you know, like it's it's on behalf of some developer somewhere who's pisted off. I mean, it's right there in the job title public relations, right, they are there to be the liaison between game makers and you. Yeah, but you know, I got a big, long letter from a developer once after like the head of it was a large studio game, and dude

was not happy. I remember that, Yeah, and he was It was like, you know, you're taking food off my table and all like all this sort of stuff, and just like I just don't think it's a particularly good game. That's kind of the long and the short of it. And then there's that weird thing of like you know, like whatever, I'm a I'm a big boy, if like someone wants to fucking do that, fine, But then when the public relations people from that company get wind that their

people have contacted you directly, they fucking flip out. You're like, I'm so sorry, like these this end around the pull line. It's like, yes's I mean, okay, it's fine, Like it's not like you're hurting you know whatever. Like we approach games on their own, it's like, oh, well that guy contacted me, so obviously every game that publisher makes his ship. Now it's like whatever, and there's just no conversation to be

had. I mean, those mail chains just die because it's like, yeah, sorry that I didn't like your game more like well again, it's basically just a due diligious thing of the pr people being able to tell their bosses like yeah we tried, We told them yeah a lot of times. It's definitely that and and you know you say, okay, thank you for your

concern, we will we will look into it. And then that's kind of that you look into it, go hey, that game or you really don't like it, right, like yep, like okay, we looked into it. You know, there's like there's nothing else to say, like and then sometimes people will persist. You know. I've definitely had people go like, so what do you know you do anything about don't like we've investigated the situation

and stand by the review. If that's not good enough for you, I don't you know, I don't know what to tell you at that point. There's no do you want to not work with us in the future, like whatever, Like, you know, do what you need to do. But but we have done, We've looked into it. Some publishers have more of a track record with that than others. Sure, yeah, but that's I don't know for me, like that that stuff is all ancient history like that

that barely ever happened of a different time. Totally totally at this point. But then again, we're just not reviewing as many games, like it's not yeah, but I think like the game has changed a lot of cases too.

Look, you know, it's like even the sites that are still reviewing games, like are they as relevant as they used to be, you know, compared to other stuff out there, Like the power of metacritics seems like really lessened these days because it's just not did you ever see publishers not send you their next game? Because of a score you gave to a previous game, Yeah, sure, or not send us a game because they don't think that. I mean, that's something we ran into with like that five stars

scoring system actually is a direct relation to Metacritic. Like there was a while there that EA was set up in such a way that they needed their games to be rated eighty five or higher. We only have one score that goes above eighty five, and it's five stars when you once you translated out to Metacritic. So they had set up a system by which the PR people and some of the other like they were incentivized to not send us games unless they

were really certain it was going to get five stars. So anything that that they had had personal doubts about, they'd be like, well, we're just not going to send it, and and that would happen. But in terms of just like yeah, like backlash from a previous game not sending the next

one. You know, most publishers there's such a long delay between them shipping games that by the time the next game comes out, it's a totally different conversation and you're starting fresh, Like it's not it rarely, if ever, like who knows if you're gonna get the same reviewer exactly. Yeah, yeah, there were there were a lot of cooler there were a lot of more

peripheral ways for them to exact their vengeance. You know. It's like, oh, they didn't get invited to like some pre event, yeah exactly, or you know things that, Hey, you didn't like midnight clubs, so IGN got the exclusive on the next GTA, or you know, whatever the fuck it is. You know it was. It was pretty trivial stuff for the most part. Yeah. Or they're just rude to you at events. Yeah, sure, occasionally get stuff like that, you know whatever. Everyone's

generally pretty civil. Ye. All that stuff feels like ancient history. Yeah, it really does, and it will continue to be more so. Alistair from Newcastle presumes that Jeff loves Disorderlies, but let's explore seeing as Jeff loves both wrestling and rap music. I was wondering what his opinion is on the hip hop group the Fat Boys, and they're terrible film Disorderlies. It's a

pretty terrible film. For those who don't know, The Fat Boys were an eighties rap group who, not unlike wrestlers, had a gimmick that don't know come on, I know, but I have to read the email. I agree it's absurd. The gimmick was that they were three obese men obsessed with food. They were actually decent rappers, but never reached greatness due to their

reliance on their comedy stick. I've loved the Fat Boys for many years, but only recently did I see the masterpiece that is Disorderlies, one of the best slash worst films ever made. I'm hoping Jeff has seen this travesty, and I'd love to hear his opinion on it. PS. Thanks for turning me onto the substitute, Isn't it is now genuinely one of my favorite films? Yeah, it's great. Are we talking pH and Z Fat Boys?

No? Okay, this is before yes, before the Disco Three. I believe they were also referred to before they realized, why don't we just call ourselves the fat boys? What's up with Disorderlies? It's like it's a movie where the fat boys are orderlies at a hospital. It's a railer hospital, a mental hospital. I think it's just a regular hospital. It's been a long time since I've seen it. All right, did that come out in there? Heyday? Sure? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know, like

they had novelty hits, you know, like they did wipe Out. They did a rap version of the song wipe Yes, I remember that, and then they did like they got Chubby Checker and did the twist but wrapped, you know, like those were kind of the two Fat Boys songs that I think broke through in a lot of ways crossover appeal. I'm a fan of All you Can Eat. Yeah, okay, when it comes to songs by the Fat Boys, all right, and the movie's terrible, Oh yeah,

it's like not even it's it's pretty fun. I can't recommend, like I'm gonna go back and watch this because it's hilarious, Like I can't. It's it's been too long. I can't say for sure, but I bet it would be a bad times compared to Big Money Restless, it's better. Okay, Yeah, I don't think it would be hard because I think I think that's that's probably pretty safe bet barely remembering anything about both films, I think it's pretty safe to say I still haven't made it more than about ten minutes

into The Fat Boys are in a steaming pile of shit. Crush Groove awesome, really. Yeah, all right, they're good in that. There you have it. Everyone's good in that. Yeah, hopefully that satisfies Alistair's curiosity. You would not believe, Oh you probably would. The number of emails we got about redbox theft this week. Jeez, rampant is it? Yeah? A lot more people who are familiar with this process than I would have thought, especially willing to send in an email indicating as such. I see,

here's one that starts please don't say my name. I would buy a Visa gift card. It was about twenty to twenty five dollars. After you get the cards set up. I would rent a game or movie through the website and go pick it up. But instead of putting a paper copy, I would get a razor blade and shave the barcode sticker off and put it on a disc I didn't need, like a PS two copy of Midnight Club too. I like how specific he is there. At least I didn't give

them nothing. They got what they paid for. I feel bad I did it anyway. You should Yeah that sucks. Yeah, yes, it is a bummer, to the extent that I almost feel like I should be reading these. But it's still kind of a ridiculous phenomenon. Well, it's weird that like that, you know that they haven't we found a way to counteract

it. Yeah, yeah, seriously, Uh like that seems like that's solved by like, hey, what if we put a Blu Ray reader in all these kiosks so that it spins up the disk, gets an idea of it, and then knows what it is. That would be sensible, which I bet is actually super expensive to retrofit all those kiosks with those, So maybe it's just worth it for them to eat the loss on it, Yeah, as opposed to upgrading every single Kiosks they have out there. Maybe, or

maybe that's not a long term viable business model. Who knows, I'll read. I mean, it's the physical media business, you know, it's yea sure at some point, at some point you're specifically doing this for people that don't have fast enough internet to stream a movie, you know, like the game stuff. I think is different because games are more expensive. I don't know. I mean, I've still got a Netflix disc account, Like, you know, there's still nothing streaming that looks quite as good as a Blu

Ray. Yeah, like the quality gap is closing, but still the best looking movie you can watch in your house. Still a lot of stuff that you know, like one iTunes rental is almost the cost of the entire like disc account for the month. You know, sure there is you know there is a value proposes and you use it. You are always getting discs and returning them and some times, Yeah, I was gonna say, if you just like sat on the same disc for like months at a time, Yeah,

a couple of times. Stupid. That is why I canceled. Yeah, Netflix discs stuff. And then once I realized I wasn't watching the streaming stuff either, I can't say that too. But when you use it as intended, it's still a pretty good deal. I'll read a quick excerpt from another email, although there were quite a few uh. It turns out that red Box takes Visa and MasterCard gift cards, which means there's no paper trail once they find out the previous consumers stole the disc out of the box.

This part seems crazy, but you can literally have five cents left on the gift card, rent any game and walk out with a free game, which it seems crazy to me that they wouldn't put a hold on the card for at least the value of the rental. Oh, because they don't charge you until after right O? Man like if not, if not the actual value of the game, at least how much they had to fund the card. But I guess actually you can just pay cash at a seven to eleven or

something, right and right. Obviously once you use it, they're gonna blacklist the card. Sure, but you probably don't care because you're thieving. I don't know, it's a weird phenomenon. Don't do that. Don't do this thing that we just told you exactly how to do. Apparently it's too late now it's out there or whatever. How hard would it be to figure that

out? Uh? Twenty fifteen The Year of the Hunt asks Josh and Grand Rapids, Monster Hunter four Blood Born Toki didn't Kiwami which or three Wild Hunt evolve. It seems like there are a bunch of games out we're coming out this year that deal with the concept of hunting or the hunt? Am I miss? Any? Is this the new Year of the bow Man? It's really just firing the imagination over there, isn't it. I don't Yeah, there's a lot of games with hunting and the Witcher looks really good. Yes,

but I forgot about the whole hunting aspect of it. If there's a lot of that in there, that might make me, that might sour me on it. I was watching that foot My understanding is no, no metal gear, Solid three, shut up, get the trash out of here, red dead, Redemption far cry m oh yeah, great hunt came out last year. Uh yeah, I don't know. I guess I could see us making some kind of pithy game of the Year joke around the concept of the hunt too really in the year to Yeah, I can't say for sure.

My understanding of the wild of wild like the concept of the wild hunt and would win anyway? Yeah, of course. Uh is the wild Hunt is a group. It's like a hunting party. Yeah. That's out there doing some kind of shit. They're hunting the most dangerous game. I don't know what they're doing witchers maybe, Yeah, you are the most interesting. Uh yeah, we'll revisitech topic at the end of the year. I suppose, Dan, Yes, you're quiet during emails. I am throw you throw you

an underhand lab here. All right, Corey from Dallas has tender problems, Dan, I heard that you use tender what's your go to opening line when you get a match asking for a friend? First of all, tender ain't great tender at all? Why not because it's very surface level. It's very much it might as well be like a hot or not thing where it's like that you're attractive, you're not bad. The thing I like, but okay, Cupid is you get a good sense of someone's personality before you even start

talking to them. You can kind of figure out deal breaker type things. Are you are you browsing profiles? Are you just letting the algorithms do their work and like find people for you? Yeah, I mean you do the match percentage thing. If you see that someone's like a ninety six percent match and a zero percent enemy or something, then it's probably you know, you've

got some core things in common for sure. But then you can also read the profile and make sure that they're well spoken, and they seem funny and they have you know, similar interest and things like that. Tender, it's just you're going through this fucking gallery of like Dash, she's hot, Bash, she's not mad, and so it's I've gone on a few tender dates and I've just never been super impressed where it's okay, cue, but you can kind of can kind of. I wasn't aware that Tinder was for going

on dates, you know what everyone says. Everyone I know that doesn't use Tender says like, oh I heard that's just like a hook up app. But if you're on Tender, you know that every single profile like they're space to write a little like hello or something, And every single profile I've seen on there's like not looking for hookups. So, like, I don't know where people get the idea that Tender is four hookups. Everybody I know who actively uses it says it's a lot more benign than or it's not. It's

not so fucking crazy. Yeah, yeah, I mean I've had the app for two or three years, and like I've never seen it as that, and I've also I've gone on real dates with it that we're never that great. I like, okay, okay, I feel I've talked to people that are heavy Tender users that have the act opposite to say, I'm not saying I'm not saying there aren't people out there using it for that. You could probably do that pretty easily with that, I'll say. When I was backstage

at Riff raff riff Raff's guys. We're using it too fine girls in the area to bring backstage. So I guess you can use it for that if you'd like to, But that's just not how I like. I'm using it to find people to hang out backstage at a rap show. Swipe right, yes, come hang out of this hip hop show like this ridiculous. Yeah, I'm not a fan. Actually I do lead to it, so yep, no good Oh but yeah, opening line. I don't know, there's

that thing you don't have. There's not much you can go off. Are they charging you now if you're older than taking you're over thirty, they have like some tender premium thing. They've got a couple of features, like you can use it I think for free. Still, what's the rationale the route they want to filter on their service to keep creepy old guys off? I guess yeah, Like at some point ten was like a real weird cut off though yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean there is no good line there.

It's there's a Louis ck bit about that. Like VC girl at a bar, there's only one honest thing you can say when you go up to them, and like it's this very surface level. Where's okay? Q, But you can get more of a sense at them as a person everything, whether you'd get along whatever, So yeah, fuck under all right, Dan has spoken. Still not married yet though, so apparently okay, Cupid ain't working that. Mhm, stay tuned. I guess you Dan's mom. Damn,

we're gonna get some kids around this office. Yeah, come on, Mario parties are stacking up. We got fucking outsource. All right, I'll have four babies real quick, alright, get on it. So the demographic for Mario Party, yes, why why would you want to warp young minds in such a way because they're not mine? I don't care. Yes, I'd have kids making somebody else's problem. Yeah, just young kids playing Mario Party. It's like you might as well just fucking throw them in the jail

cell right now. Yep, raised on Mario Party. Next thing you know, they're taking thirty two hundreds off somebody to gas station. Ain't it always the way? Almost? Don't watch baby's growth to be Mario Party players? Ain't that the truth? Jack from Florida writes in about platonic games. I don't know if you guys have heard of that outfit. Yeah, they're doing this the x rare thing right. Yeah. So yeah, that's the gist of the email. Hey guys, you didn't seem to have any coverage or

news from the eg x rest event a few weeks ago. Uh yeah, I know. Yeah. When I saw that name, I was like, I wonder why, But it's a British event. But yes, as he says, ejx res is the largest video game event in the UK, far and away. The most exciting part for me was to watch the panel from Platonic Games called Rebirth of the three D Platformer. They're a team made up of old rare developers who worked on games like Banjo Kazooi, Donkey Kong Country

and Golden Eye att seven. That genre of games has been dead for a long time, and the Platonic guys spoke with passion and excitement about their first game, which will be a spiritual successor to Banjo Kazooi, called Project at Ukulele. With all that being said, I know you guys are borderline hostile to three D platform ers, with Maris four being the exception. Seems a little harsh. Well that was the one good one, but h I'm not a big CROC fan gets three D You not doing anything for you? Not

really. The Playtonic guys said they would bring the three D platform er up to twenty fifteen standards. Does this news excite you in any way or could you care less? I think they need to prove it first, you know. I think that that bringing the three D platform er up to twenty fifteen standards has a really weird like if it's just if it's the same type of design, but it looks like a modern game. I don't know that that is enough. Yeah, I agree, and I saw that news when it

came out, But yeah, I was with you. It's like there's not quite enough there. You know. It's like, yeah, these guys made some good old games, but it's just being they're the good old games guys, some good games that are old. Okay, got it? Uh, But yeah, it's just like in all you've got is a project name and some pedigree, like you need to see old different there's a picture. There's a couple of pictures out there, and there's some big fucking Google eyes in

these pictures. I have not seen those pictures. But those games can be great. Yeah, you look at it. And you go like, oh, okay, all right, that's that's type of teaser image that some x rare people trying to say, hey, we're the x rare people would would put out. Get the impression that those guys spent a lot of times and a lot of time in tiki bars. Maybe, yes, I'm getting a certain vibe. Creative director Jimmy Buffett. That's good. Uh ps Mario sixty

four versus Banjo Kazooi discuss I don't think there's much to discuss there. Banjo Kazoi is a slightly better Donkey Kong sixty four. Mario sixty four is one of the best games ever. All right, I enjoyed Banjo Kazooi. I did not enjoy Donkey Kong sixty four. No, no, no, this was Mario sixty four versus Banjo. Oh what is like? Has technical prowess above and beyond. It's a slightly cleaner, crisper looking game, but Mario

sixty four is much better designed. All right, Banjo's highly overrated. It's really cool, but it's good, not great. There you have it. Let me tell you a little nuts and game called Glover. Yeah, okay, go ahead, talk to me about Glover, but just be just know that I'm gonna at the end of this say, now tell me about buck Bumble. I don't even know what that is, all right, it's an sixty four platform or that in my mind at least, might as well just

be Glover. We should play those about space station Silicon Valley was gonna say that was m design game and they wouldn't made Grandfaffather. What are you gonna say about nuts and Bolts? It's a fucking awesome game. Is that's the That's the best banjo Kazooi game without it out equivocally. I'm just gonna I just I hate to fucking totally do this, but I have to wait for

this laptop too quickly connect to the internet. What's the one that sucker Punch did the rocket robot on wheels or sucker Punch did, yeah, a platform around that era wait on wheels for like Cooper. Yes, it's like and it's like four on the N sixty four. Yeah it was something. Yeah, I think it is rocket. I think your rocket robot and wheels. I think you might be right, But what are you doing over there? I'm just keeping us You're you're a glove. This is the buck Bumble theme

song. Man, he that box art. Something tells me I need to follow up with mister Bumble. No, so just listen to this or am I getting what I need? Right? You're getting everything you need at buck Bumble right here, right now. I don't know, man, I feel drawn to this. I need to see more. Yeah, all right, maybe we should at least look at the game. I don't. I don't care what the game looks like. But if this is playing while I'm playing

the game, yeah, like fuck the Donkey Kong rap. Yeah, this song says everything about the era and the location that this game was produced. It pretty good. That was exciting. I was trying to find the clip of Jim Ross pitching Glover during a Favor for You because Glover, Yeah, it's sponsored, like I don't know, like unforgiven. Yeah, and Jim Ross because gotta love the gloves. He's not wrong. You need to find that for me later. Yeah. Actually, Glover Glover was pretty cool,

wasn't it? Like? Yeah, I rented it multiple times from Blockbuster Video m HM, three D platforms. Maybe they still have a place I don't I'm not Yeah, I don't know. I'm not convinced, Like, yes, we'll see. Yeah, maybe Project Ukulele will change your mind. I anticipate seeing that. Yeah, like I'll I mentioned to take a look at it. But it's one of those things where it's it's like a nostalgia project

in a lot of ways. You know, it's like they're very match like, hey, we're the X rayre guys, we're making one of those, but modernizing it. Like that's I don't will this be a kickstarter? I don't know. Yeah, let's just say yeah, is probably I don't know. Perhaps it's just one of those like I don't necessarily want like the developers of that era to make a new one. It'd be nice, like let's get totally fresh ideas, like hey, we're bringing back three platformer and we

never made one before. I don't care who comes up with the ideas. Yeah, I guess, I guess. Yeah, I just want it to be an interesting game. I guess I'm implying that they wouldn't be able to come up with new ideas. But like I feel like on some level, by appealing to the fans of those rare games, like they're trying to make another one of those right, yeah, yeah, oh no, no,

I don't think that that's inarguable. Yeah, like I really trying to evoke that that period and that esthetic and everything like, that's not That's not top

of my list of yeah anything. I've said it before, but I thought I Grow Home was like the closest thing to like, here's here's a three D platformer in twenty fifteen that makes sense, Like, here is an interesting new mechanic that we probably couldn't have done in the past, yeah, for technical reasons, and now we can, and like it enables a new type of game point that those games did not have. Let's see earth Through Gym for d M. You can eat cans beans and then you can fart.

I wish earthrom Gym was still around and irrelevant. I liked earth Room Gym a lot. What do you think it would have taken for Earthroom Gym to still be around and relevant? Because it was he was relevant for about a game. One and two were both good, well, actually, you know what, I take that back. They were good when I was twelve and thirteen when it came out on Xbox Live Arcade, uh several years ago. Yeah, going back, going back and playing one is pretty rough. They

great, it's hard. Yeah, yeah, it is really hard, and it's hard to like gauge jumps and stuff like I can't tell if this is in the Bash. So much animation and stuff that. Yeah, it's like they spent so much time individuals like, it looks amazing. Yeah, even you compare it to games of that area, you're like, fuck, man, Yeah, it's still looks good. In the Genesis I got once in a while, it looks good and all that, but it's Room Gym three D does not look so great. No, no, I never played those

games. I can't join this conversation. I thought too was needless. It was one of the things where it's and the idea that like Earthworm Gym was like a character that needed a cartoon, like like the stuff that Earthrom Jim got on the basis of that one game looking good. It was like fucking crazy. Yeah, I mean again, it's the time and place thing.

Yeah, we're talking like what I was ten and eleven. So it's like stuff that, like you know, like Sonic was getting the cartoon treatment and all that other stuff too, and yeah, but Earthorm Gym was for like older, more mature kids because I had jokes about boogers and stuff in it. Yep, yeah, it's going off for the Boogerman demographic. Dan Castelenetta, I believe, voiced both Boogerman and earthrom Gym earthurm Jim in the show. I want to say of the game, the more you know about earthworm

Gym, the worst off your incorrect. That's what I was gonna say. Jackson from Roseberg organ right soon and says I want my dough to two mm. I've come to realiz is that I'm looking for my equivalent to Brad's Dota two, something imminently replayable. I could ride off into the sunset with. Do any of you other guys have one of these? Am I foolish to hope that this game is out there for me? Is it Dota two? Sort of? So? Dan for the Sega Genesis? Yeah? No,

Halo multiplayer, M gonna pay that forever. Yeah, that qualifies one. Or just like taken as a collective, I mean, well, just any like how about master Chief Collection? If it worked? Well? It kind of works now I get what you're saying, though, It's like I don't have the draw to go play that every time? Yeah, or every Yeah, every time I get a free second. But whenever I sit down and play that, I have a good time. It'll never get old. Yeah,

it's a tough thing to you should try eve online boy. I think if you get the right crew together, fighting games are really good for that. Yeah. I haven't played it in a while, but still calibers fun every single time I play it. I mean it practically has to be a multiplayer thing, yeah, because otherwise, like you're no matter what, you're going to exhaust the content and a single player thing. Yeah, eventually, sky unless it's like super duper randomized Minecraft. Yeah, I guess so,

But you could build nonsense in Minecraft forever. Let's be honest. It's Doda two. I heard some really good things about Here Is at the Storm. Yeah, apparently all the engineers are playing it right now. Really, and apparently all the like shop garbage is gone from there. What do you mean, all the oh I gotta buy this weird day? Yeah, right, isn't that doesn't that happened? I thought that was always the case, Like they relaunched in like a later phase of the beta recently. I mean there's

always been a store in there that sells skins and stuff. No, no, no, like in Match, I would never buy boots. Oh yeah, I never had never had that. Oh I'm sorry. I thought you meant the free to play an actual store. It seems like they think much more a stripped down an excess. No, no, I mean yeah, it's it is someone who liked Fates Forever at the mobi on the iPad. Yeah, which is by it's very nature, stripped down and easier to play.

Here's what the Storm sounded intriguing. It is incredibly stripped down and streamlines compared to the other games in the genre, which probably will get it a pretty big audience. I would think it seems like a lot of people are enjoying it. Yeah, so far, it's definitely a much smaller learning curve. Uh, John and Toronto, I like that you are just slightly talking a bunch of shit about it. Yeah, every step of the way. Yeah. Now ask me about league. What's up with the league legends?

I hear that you don't even have to buy your fucking blank What does that bullshit? Everybody gets a free tepe, right, yeah? Man? Leagues for kids, fucking babies, I know, right, like literal infants, like fucking I'm gonna play as a DJ. What John and Toronto rights in with an email entitled Fast seven slash Saints Row A little podcast. Seen that movie and I don't want anyone. I don't want anyone fucking talking about specifics of that movie. I thought you didn't care about spoilers. I just I

don't want this question had better be good? All right? Uh? Well, you already heard that it has something to do the Saints Row. I went and saw The Fast and of wait he calls it the Fast and the Furious seven. That's not right. Is it Furious seven? Is it Furious seven? Is that the name of the thing? Yeah, I guess yeah. I went and saw the movie over the weekend, having not seen or

read anything about the movie since the original. While I enjoyed the movie, I couldn't help think that if it was named Saints Row the seventh movie, almost nothing would need to change. So I ask, what would you imagine a Hollywood version of Saints Row to be and who would be cast? I mean it would be like the scary movie Guys or whatever, making like oh action movie. That's what they would do. So you're saying that would just be a parody I mean that's kind of kind of a parody of action games

is GTA games. I mean it started out that way and then went into like weird other referential stuff like when they're recreating like you know, stuff from they Live in There and stuff like that. Like it's, yeah, I see what you're saying. Like it is, there's got a weird parody element to it. But that's that's not just a strict parody. That's some kind of weird like pop culture catch all. Yeah. Yeah, just like here's a bunch of references from everything we can think of, but not. But

I mean it's it's handled work. It's handled more shrewdly than that in those games. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's selling it a bit short. It's not well, I'm saying it's not lazy. It's not just a lazy collection of references. You know. Yes, script to the guy who made spring Break, I'm gonna I'm gonna okay, yeah, sure, Harmony and Cream. Yeah about that. I'm going to make the radical suggestion, Yeah it really does. I'm gonna make a radical suggestion that we cast Keith David as

Keith David m They'll never work. Uh, I don't like, I don't know what you do with the Boss though, because that's a totally malleable character, you know. Yeah, the whole movie is set in first person, so you're a how to envision the Boss as it worked for the Doom movie? Yeah, nothing worked for the Doom Movie. Nope, I own that. Wow, Yeah you do, all right, of course you do. I don't really have a lot of ideas off the top of the head.

But Saints Row could work as a movie, sure. I mean yeah, Saints Row was kind of a blank slate in a lot of ways and kind of fill it full of whatever fucking dumb shit. You It's not to say that there's no art to it, but you could adapt it a lot of stuff to fit in the Saints Row world with the way that they've left things truth Saints Row. Okay, all right, I like that. Yeah, keep going, Jeffrey Rush. I need this Kinsey putting a fucking gun in

the Boss's mouth. And I should watch spring Breakers again. Yeah, I don't know if I can ever watch spring Breakers again. There was actually there was talk about producing a remix of spring Breakers that they had shot enough other Ship that they were just gonna cut into another fucking movie. Wow, the untold story like Anchorman. Fuck uh, I don't know if that's still happening or what? All right, wait is that what Anchorman two? Is?

No Anchorman two the like extra Netflix cut is that? And also the first the first Anchor Man, they produced another like out of stuff they shot for the movie. They went and cut it into like a separate thing. It's called Wake Up, Run Burgundy. It's it's technically like a separate it's a separate DVD. Yeah, I've never heard of that. Yeah, whoa, it's like it comes with Anchor Man. It's just like it's one of the special features with Anchor Man. Is it's like an hour and a half.

Yeah, I mean they have to patch everything together with like weird error. I was going to say, is it a coherent thing. It's just basically just a big like I'll takes real Yeah, I mean like whole like side plots that didn't happen. Like it was this huge like bank robbery subplot that never happens. And Yeah, I got the impression that the second Anchorman was not very well liked. It's not as good as the first time. Yeah,

not surprising. I think too much time had passed. Brian from Durham, North Carolina wants to know what happened to futuristic racing games even stop buying them, say stop making them. Damn it now I can't even read the email. I'll read the email. Growing up, two of my favorite games were F zero X on the N sixty four and F zero g X on the GameCube. I love the attack mechanics, the speed, and the world that series created. Really, I thought of F zero haven't having much of

a fiction that Captain Falcon. Yeah, Samurai Goro, Samurai, dude, Nintendo hasn't made one of these games in over a decade, and no one else has really made a good knockoff. Wipe Out never did it for me. There seems to be a big market for racing games. We'd get plenty of them every year, but they all seem so similar in actual gameplay when compared to something like F zero. You don't actually get that many racing games anymore either. True, I feel like even among the established series though,

well, actually some of those have even fallen off. Yeah, I was gonna say there's sports. I would have said Need for Speed if that didn't even come out last year, right, although I surely there will be one this year. I can't. It's hard for me to imagine a world where they don't have any need for speed game for this year. Yeah, but actually, I mean there was drive club grants for his most too sporadic Yeah, the Crew. God. Maybe you're right, maybe there really aren't that

many driving games anymore, not like there used to be. Yeah, gosh, what's the futuristic one, Jeff? He worked on Connecticut? Yeah? Is that the one where it was like people or robots and the wheels? It extreme g extreme g Yeah? Right, is the tunnel b one? Uh? Stune Runner out stun Runner making new stun Runner game? Oh yeah, make a new stun Runner a game. Let's do that. Yeah.

I don't know. I'd be down for some futuristic cover racing. There isstance oh right, yeah, yeah, there's there's some stuff like that, like Race the Sun or whatever. Rights, Yeah, there's another cons I feel like the wipe Out guys made a new studio and are making something, uh in the spirit of wipe Out. Yeah, you know you should watch Formula E. It is electric cars racing on street circuits around the world, and there is a DJ that live scores the beginning and the end of the races.

That sounds pretty awesome. I'm following the Formula ej on Twitter because it's Formula E for energy for electricity for electric cars. Also when they pit jockey, Yeah, when they pit, they don't refuel because they're electric cars and they don't have time to switch out the batteries, so they jump out of their car into a new car. I love that. Yeah, it's well, fuck this car, it's dead. Yeah, it's so weird. They just need to figure out induction charging so they can have a strip on the

yes road that you drive over to fuel the car. It's gotta be purple. Yeah, once they get that going. Man, the future, I just want a type of racing competition that resembles speed Racer the movie. Hmm. I mean this is the eventual future of Formula one. They are getting weirder every year. Yeah, I just want wacky races. What was the snigly whiplash dude and wacky races that had the dog space races? Yeah? Yeah, what was that guy's name? I feel like we had that.

We just had this conversation, yeah, and figured out his name was. We looked at Upaka, it's a good name for snidly. With lash standin, I will continue to say that laugh Olympics is better than wacky races. I saw an actual roadrunner in Mexico. Wow, they look like there's all right, Yeah, it's about you know. And in justest Home. Yeah, was the road like flying up behind it? H No, his feet were not a spiral. Oh okay, did say meet meep? I was

in a car. I couldn't hear. It's unfortunate. You see the thing that's gonna run the internet not that long ago. Where was the actual rules for animating the road runner? Yeah? I had like eight rules and yeah, one of him was like he always has to be on the road like he's a road runner. He does not go off the really specific stuff. It was pretty smart. Yeah, he never hurts the coyote. The coyote just always hurts himself and competence. Yeah that's the best cartoon. Yeah,

classic, But it did look like that bird. All right, it's good. It's a field report. Robert from Atlanta write son about remake versus New Game. Hey bodcast, love the show. When you're considering games for Game of the Year discussions, where do you draw the line for a game that draws heavily from other games. Does a game like Majorre's Mask three D make the cut with a lot of gameplay changes to the game, like more save

points and five adjustment of the time mechanic. Can you think of any game that toes the line and has caused some discussion about whether it counts or not. I think generally we would disqualify stuff like that. Even as much as I liked that and the improvements, I don't think I would consider it for my top ten list or anything. Yeah, it also gets weird when you run a wiki and you have to decide, like does this get its own page or is this just listed as a release under the old game It was

always weird too reviewing stuff like that. So it's like, let's say you review street Fighter four and you give it a nine point five, and then like Super street Fighter four comes out and it's like, well, this is better. So I mean, like that argument always tends to happen around gaming journalism place. Yeah, well it doesn't have the impact of the first time,

so even though it's a better game, maybe it'll score lower. Like those are always weird conversations to have majoras seems like a borderline case to me, like they totally read it. All the graphics, they added a bunch of new mechanics. I think it's way better, but it's on a different platform. I mean, yes, it is the basically the same content, but it's kind of different names. I mean, what would what would you do with Dark Souls the Dark Souls rerelease and not as Mud and definitely not

I don't think that that. No, those seem like the same thing to me. Dark Souls is like a year yea. Dark Souls is a year later on the next LAM is supposed to changes like it's similar, stuff like may change to the gameplay it includes, you know, like I think you got to give some consideration to how long it's been and what platforms you can play it on. Anyway, it's all academic. It's just a bunch of naval gazing conversations in the games press. Yeah, a bunch of arbitrary decisions

made based on what people are feeling at that moment. It's almost things get done. So no, Major's master is not up for consideration. But weirdly enough, Dark Souls two is I don't know, Yeah, yeah, funny how that works, Ray says, greetings from Osaka. I just thought I just thought i'd let you guys know there's job opening at the Robot restaurant in Tokyo. Links to the any links to the page where you can apply for that job. All right with the rainbow afrog Whig did not quit? Did

he? I have to? I don't know he was there? What Andrew? I have to? But I mean you could be that, you know what if you were The next guy was really talented. I think I saw that guy playing a guitar. Oh. Man, that guy's cool. I have to finish his email. Oh there's more, and it gets intense. That said, a hand to draw a near perfect circle, let's say accuracy three times for a million dollars tax free and the rights to the much anticipated

Blood on the Sand two featuring g Unit. Or spend the rest of your life working as a waiter at the Robot restaurant. Take the challenge and then he signs his email piece and youcrease Ray, Yeah, I haven't heard that one before. How much money? A million? No? Yeah, that's crazy. That's not nearly enough to risk your entire life being a waiter at some weird basement future restaurant. I mean that'd be fun for like a week. Yeah, for a while, it would, but not for the rest

of your life. I wonder if they'd let me up on the diamond and crusted horse you get promoted to with the sparkly lady parade goer. Hey, let me drive the tank. Yeah, oh yeah, the tank, the neon tank. Yeah, this guy's challenges nuts. Who would take that? The Rubbot restaurants pretty cool, I guess. I don't know. Don't get the food. I keep waiting for the Was it not good? No? No, that's wait. Did you just say it was bad or you just

didn't get much? It's nothing. Yeah, you get this dumb little box with just some like pretty generic stuff in it, right, Like they say restaurant, but it's you're paying for the show. Yes, eat beforehand. I wonder I feel like that thing is it's just on the cusp of being over exposed. I mean, it's a tourist attraction, well it is, but like it's becoming the tourist. It's like the thing everybody's like. It's because everyone already went to Super Potato, I guess, And I don't think

they have the chair made a cartridge is there anymore? So I remembered hearing that they moved it out and that didn't suck on the top floor. Did not see it the top top floor with like just the arcade miss and not nearly as many like games to buy because they had the top floor that was mostly arcage and I went about a year at Super Potato. Yeah, I don't know. They might have moved stuff around or something. Let me anyway,

check my photos. You got a photology of what went down. They had a Big Boss statue on the third floor last year with like a missing hand. Gross. Nobody wants that Big Boss missing a hand. I've got one more email that I saved for him a couple of weeks ago for Dan. Okay, I feel like we're kind of out of the window for it now. This is when I was. I don't remember. It's about Sebastian bach An Axl Rose. I guess I could read it when they remade back

in the Saddle a couple of years ago. Now that I've brought it up, I guess I have to read it. It's from It's from David and Melbourne hologibomb with this recent Sebastian box talk on the podcast I talked You Welcome to b Talker on the Air. Were launching a premium Semashion Bocca only podcast Premium. The whole world needs to hear about Smashing Bach. Oh, I'm sure he's perfectly willing to tell them himself. I felt the need to share

this story of seeing him live. A few years ago. Guns and Roses played two shows at the Brisbane Entertainment Center and I was present at the second night. Bach was the support act, and for a man in his forties, he wasn't afraid to wear leather pants and ramble incomprehensible nonsense between songs fucking a The highlight I remembered was Box screaming at the crowd in a tone that suggested he was answering a question nobody asked by saying, this fucking song is

for our fucking troops. They're fighting for our fucking freedom. The song in question was you don't understand. After baking, his band departed. Almost two hours passed with no sign of Guns and Roses. This is in Australia. Yes, troops has a pretty different connotation. Yeah, I hope that I'm fucking that awesome when I'm in my forties. Yeah, wearing leather pants, no doubt, I don't buy some other pants. Yeah, that's where it

starts. That leads to Once you're leading the leather pants lifestyle, I think the rest of it just clicks into place. I guess, oh yeah, everything else follows man. Almost two hours passed when those sign of guns Roses with the crowd properly pissed off. Axel Rose ran full speed on stage to the to the sounds of Welcome to the Jungle, was out of wind after

doing his snake dance and his shot an annas. He then preemptively apologized for the remainder of the show because he and Bok had been blackout drunk all day due to drinking heavily until eight o'clock in the morning after the previous night's show. True to his word, the majority of the show was half assed rubbish, but everything was worth it just to hear Axel seeing night train ps Sydney is still a dumbhole. That's part of the fun of seeing guns and Roses

life. I always see him once. I don't think i'd call that fun. It's just not knowing what Axel, You're gonna get pissed off leave the show early acts, so I would assume in this day and age, you know roughly what kind of axle you're gonna get. I saw him about out two years ago, maybe three years ago in Minneapolis, and like the show or two before that, terrible reviews, super late, terrible voice, seemed just like fatigued or whatever. Everything I've seen him in all of his performances

of the last few years, he sounds completely terrible. That the one I saw Matt, he was on time. He did a four hour show and it was amazing. It sounded like old Axel the entire time. And I've seen plenty of like I've seen shitty acts arose Chinese Democracy Tour performances like he can be shitty. I'm not going to defend him when he's shitty. But he was on fire that Target Center show, Matt, Wow, it was awesome. Did he ask anyone for some reggae? No, he'd then fuck

that. It was a great show. That show. I can can either confirm nor deny the existence of the cartridge chair, but I do have the picture here of Saal Snake. He's not missing a hand, he's missing his gun. He'll probably be fine, ye, something tells me he can get by without a gun. This is on site procurement YEP, weapons equipment USP. Uh, that's gonna do it. For emails podcast at GiantBomb dot com. Is the email address, Yeah, put a few extra ms on it.

The compass. How did you do it? We'll hear it. I don't remember. You don't remember it. I don't remember where the emphasis was. Yeah, I never do. Well, I'll talk about way back when you're in the headier days of your dot com delivery dot com right, But it's more syllables now, so I don't think it would come out the same. Well, it just depends on because I would stretch one of out. I just don't remember which one it was. It was usually the game,

No, you switched it up. I think it's usually game game. It was the long syllable sometimes you go game SPA after three hours of talking. I think I might have only done that as like a joke, really like stretching it out the other syllable, just to make Rich laugh or something to forget. But I don't know how you could do that after three hours of talking in the microphone, young throat. The throat is already kind of shot after this podcast, young man. And now actually I agree with you that.

Like sometimes after we're doing done doing the show, like I'm driving home, I go like my throws a little. Yeah, yeah, I can feel it. I can feel its starting to get a little little scratchy there. We've got to take care of our instruments, yes, yes, nurture your instrument yeah, uh, work on your ambaiture for next week. Yeah, otherwise we're gonna end up just sounding like morning show DJs. Al Right, is that the worst thing? No? Yes? Is it? Yeah?

No, I don't know. I saw the snake impressions. Yeah, yeah, maybe, I don't know. Let's all start smoking. Sure, my dad started when he was forty. I might do that serious. What was the decision there was? He just like it was like divorce number nineteen Okay. I also started smoking for the second half as a smoker. Yeah, oh boy. Also, he loves how every time I mentioned his divorce as it goes up like five, we're nineteen now, it's impressive. Must

be setting a record at this point. All right, Well, that's probably gonna do it for the podcast. Kim can't really think of anything to follow that. That's probably gonna do it. Guess guarantee, I guess this thing is over. Uh there anything planned for the week that we will talk about their old game show. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna play some more games

on Wednesday, another togs. Yeah sure, I can confirm that the Thursday morning episode of Metal Metal Gear Scanlon Season three will be the finale, all right? Is that the next one then will be the of this recording? Yes, okay, the next episode we'll be Thursday morning. Yeah, well, technically it's wens Well for California, it's Wednesday night and a close enough.

You completed your mission science, yes, great, Yeah, you gotta adhere to these Metal Gear Solid three embargoes nine pm because it's out midnight of the East Coast. That's the whole thing. It's the whole thing. Yep. All right, well, stay tuned for that stuff and whatever else happens. Sure something will. Yeah, that's gonna do it for this week's edition of The Giant Podcast. Stay tuned until next week.