Giant Bombcast 01-03-2012

Hey everyone, It's Tuesday, January is the third, twenty twelve, and you were listening to the Giant Bomb Cast. I'm Ryan Davis twenty twelve. Y'all. It's a new year, and so we have a fresh, brand new baby. Vinny Caravella here two zero one two, Oh, I'm baby new year. Did touch my bottom? It's Vinny Caravella is here for the twenty dozen, twenty twenty dozen, the twenty dozen or the deuced dizzy, the deuce dizzy? What was last year? Nothing? We didn't have any

good ones for twenty eleventh. That's tough. Twenty eleventh rhyme something with eleven. It's tough heaven? All right, Well there you we didn't We didn't bother with twenty eleven. Twenty eleven, didn't didn't four plus seven Kevin would Patrick Kleppick is still on vacation somewhere in the Midwest right now. I believe probably probably like drinking something fried somehow. Go bears, Yeah, go bears, I guess. And that's the sweet sound of Dave Snyder. Dave,

you haven't been a guest on this podcast. I'm doing physical stretches just to get myself sitting as opposed as opposed to other kinds of stretches. I don't know what I'm supposed to do. I just here around from last where whenever you guys were here last Oh? Is that is that game of the year? PaperWorks also remind us of that. I've got a coffee filtering next thing, that's a coffee filter. Will Smith has started eating stuff out of coffee

filters, like using those instead of like paper towels. He was sitting that, he was sitting there with like a handful of popcorn. Because it's already like she's kind of bullish and and you know, you're not what's wrong with them bowl? What's wrong with an actual bowl? If you find me a bowl in this office, you go ahead and let me know when they were the bowls at well see, you know there was on a Kessler's head, but he's since left. Want want oh, come on, bull hairs.

The least we could do. It's the kindest thing you could do if we're gonna tear down Matt Kessler. Uh. Jeff Gershman also still on vacation, enjoying his time off the bread shoemakers. Here. I'm here, and I am so excited. I know you can tell how excited I am that I just ate some iceberg lettuce. It was. It was okay, iceberg let

us. Yeah, it was just you know, chicken seas rap or something, but gets the job done, something refreshing after the last two weeks about eating some straight up let us. So yeah, we've we've took a little holiday break, Brad. You went back to the homeland, back to the mother lands. Dude, how is the how are the catallacts? Yeah? Okay, yeah, two visits chick folio, one boat jagles. That's how

we measure the quality of the visits. Now, Yeah, Well, I mean those things are more trashy Southern fried food, but not Hey, there's nothing trashy. There's something about about a little it's a little little's. I would say it's like maybe one step up from waffle house and and waffle houses. Waffle House is about as trashy as as as it gets. Waffle House is like a gunshot wound at three in the morning, self inflicted. The waffle house near my school had a gunshot pull like a bullet hole in the

window. Yeah. They didn't fix it. Yeah, it was just there. Well, are they all twenty four hours. I don't know if there are any non twenty four hour ones, but any vacation highlights you get anything cool? Do you know? What I got was earthquake prepared in this stuff? Oh yeah, yeah, okay, bad, Like I'm you know, I'm sure like all of you guys, like I'm well in my adulthood to the point that like, what are you gonna buy a gift? It's like,

if I wanted, I'm gonna go buy it. Yeah. So what I got was a solar powered and also optionally crank powered MF and radio power. Somebody contributed to PBS and that coming a tote, No, just in a box. It's attractive tote and a little a little sack of Mrs meals ready to eat. Nice, It's good. I'm glass. So I'm gonna go to I'm gonna go to Costco and get a big old thing a bottled

water. I'm gonna and this is where your home cares. Sock all that stuff away in a closet somewhere, and then I hope that when the big one comes, that closet does not get sealed off, cause it still exists. Yeah, they said on the news the other day, they said, it's the next thirty years, like a it's like a six to seven range. We are absolutely due once a century or so. We are. We are due for a nice big shake. I was actually thinking over the break.

There was a day or two where I'm like, this is feeling like earthquake weather. So sense it in your bone, you can. We're all transplants. I don't think we have the native Yeah, you you've been through it. I know, I've lived in the air. It was pretty there is there is. There is a specificity to earthquake weather. It's not just a hurricane weather. It's smelling the hurricanes. Yeah, yeah, static years

tingling, you know. Karen's first one was in the movie theater. She thought it was the movie theater, Like it was like the rumbling of the movie. Yeah. She was like, what was I was like, that was the earthquake. She's like, yeah, first one. I was kind of freaked. I realize just how imposing they can be. Ye, that is nature. It's like I was hating ready hold on a second. Yeah, but I kind of can't describe it because it's like it's like, all

right, we're done. It's it's so power like you realize that like, oh my god, this is not gonna this isn't a car going by, this is not gonna stop, and you immediately freeze. Yeah. No, I ran over to the bookshelf to stop the v and then realized afterwards, over, that's dull the worst place. That's like literally the opposite of earthquake of what the earthquake preparedness for you would tell you to do the wall. What I had, what I've been told is you know, you don't want

to get underneath something. What you want to do is there is the triangle of safety next to your pocket. Yeah, Basically you want to be like down and next to a heavy piece of furniture because when stuff falls it if it if it falls and hits the thing and crushes it, you're just gonna be crushed underneath it. So it'll break the fall. It'll break the fall, and then it'll it'll fall and create basically like a little zone right next

to the saying where you can conceivably be safe. So I thought a lot about this, because it's like beams and shit that you gotta worry worry about. I don't want to be trapped in the pocket. I think i'd rather just go out you rather just get crushed. I don't want to be like, why are you sucking around with all this preparedness stuff? Well, because it's it's you know it is because guess what it's gonna be if it if you actually need that stuff, is it's gonna be pretty bad. Yeah.

I was like, if it comes to the point that I need this radio like, it's gonna be, it's bad, bad out there to remember, I think it's gonna cure. I've always I've always heard go under a doorway. Does that structurally? It's it's structurally yeah, yeah, but the pocket stuff create that pocket, and I just gonna got under like concrete in a pocket, crushed leg, like you're you're kissing your kneecap or something and you're just trapped and you're like, this is it. This is it for the

next three days until I do so terrible idea. I should just died myself. They said on the news, if it's if it's on the San Andreas, I'm not the Hayward. Yeah, that you could be talking about like a quarter million people in San Francisco who can't return to their homes. I've got like homes basically destroyed. I've got two, got a bug out bag in the car and my bug at bag. Here. Have you strapped your water heater strapped? I don't have my own water here? Actually do I

do? Now my new apartment's gonna say I've got water. About your water heater? You gotta strap it and make sure it's strapped. What's strapped? I mean, well, water heat heaters tend to like to come loose and then spew natural gas everywhere and then start amazing fires. Oh so that's why there's like major laws in California that you have to keep your water heaters like specifically safely strap secured. Yeah, I hope strap them to the water.

Strap it on. Check a strap okay, check till the water here, I'm coming into it. A strap check, yes, strap check. Cough. Right, that's good. I'm genuinely concerned. No, yeah, this is well, that's I mean, like, well, when the when the when the eighty nine quake hit? Uh, you know, the marina basically burned down really well. I mean there were fires and shipped down the marina, and a lot of that was because of natural of like you know,

natural gas fires. Sounds bad? Yeah, like everybody likes to joke about the big one, like, yeah, I can't wait for that thing to hit. I'm gonna But it's always the fires. It's never the quake. Like the quake itself will do it enough damage. Like you know, there was obviously a huge structural the impact in the Bay Area when when that quake hit. But it's also it's the secondary stuff that always water contamination gets gets out of control the water. I hadn't experienced that. I can see that

being a thing. I don't know if that's like California. It might just be a flood thing. So I have no idea shotguns I want to bury. I want to put a shotgun or a rifle in I don't really like guns, but I want to put one in a waterproof container on like a twenty foot chain and drop it off the side of like the cliffs over here into the water like about five feet under, and then when the ship goes down, you want to pull it up. You'll pull it up and say

you get your underwater shotgun. Because I'm not so much worried about well, that's what I'm saying, like just it's like five feet under and like attached probably be really dumb. Its high tide chain and that gun because chain wrapped around a shotgun wrapped in a plastic trash bag. Why is it red on the tip? Because I'm not worried about the earthquakes so much in like a major city, like I suspect it was the three days you need. You're

You're worried about the zombie scenario, people turning on each other. It's not the zombi Yeah, forget the zombie part, but I'm worried about like you know what I mean, but you have. But that's the truth thing in any zombie story, it's not the zombies, it's the other people. Other people build the team. So the more prepared you are, though, like

you're now prepared in some way. Well they don't know that though, but they will as soon as they see that you're there with like, I'm not gonna deal Like I'm not gonna be sitting out on my front step with that. Do kick your door in. We'rena, I'm gonna hide. Some start looting. Wait, what are the we got four people? What are the roles? What are we all feeling? Me? Keep? Yeah, let's

say we just got four people. Your tag from No I was injured in the initial combat, so on the on the liability, Yeah, you gotta leave me behind. I'm the first to get the one that's bleeding out, So I made a makeshift. Um the problem causer, Like, just leave them behind me. He's dead, wait on you. Yeah, but you can't walk. I can't walk. I'm kind of taking up a lot of resources. I'm bad bad news, Like I'm branched, like hastily wrapped to

your thighs to make but I'm the only one who knows. We're the bugout bags are and I can't tell you, but I have to take you there. And I'm so I'm the starters. You're worried. Yeah, you're worried about us. I'm the first act. Every every day you look a little bit worse. Yeah, and it's it's getting bad, and then you're in and out of consciousness and then the delirium comes and Dave, I feel like

you're the hard choice maker. Let's kill them. But it's like, even living in California my whole life, it's always the most exciting thing when an earthquake starts is past the initial realization of okay, hey, an earthquake is happening. But then it's just like, all right, how long is this going to keep going for? How hard is it going to? Like? Oh, is it gonna shake a little more? And you're like, well, well this could keep going, this could get worse because it doesn't.

It doesn't just like necessarily hit just like bam. Immediately you're shaking it fucking you know, six point zero or whatever. It'll start rumbling and then well that's that's what I'm saying. The first one I had when you suddenly realize they're in the rules, there's there's not like this isn't fair, Like this is not like yeah, well it's not even just like hurricane or tornado stuff where it's like, oh, like twenty minutes out that's coming. You better

like batting down the hatchet. You have time to tape up your windows before hurricane comes. I will take the Whiskey media emblem off our wall and use it as a Sheila to protect of this new post apocalyptic How many people were crushed in the eighty nine, like just in their homes or a lot less than there would have been if the World series wasn't happening, because it happened on the day of that every day three and everyone word that at that hour

would have been commuting and would have been on the freeway that collapsed. Oh you're talking about collapse are crushed by the bridge? Yeah, well well not at the bridge, by the Barcdero freeway. It would be a double decker freeway where the Barcderrow is. Yeah, like or not yet, not the bridge, but the highway you fell in, right, Yeah, that it was double double decker bam get collapsed twice and so a bunch of people got swishing there, but not as many as would have otherwise. What about in

their homes though? That's the thing I worked any I mean, it was the Marino was where most of that structure, like serious structural damage was. There's a lot of stuff in Santa Cruz as well, but I don't think a lot of people were dying in that that stuff. It was mostly the Embarcadero falling. See I'm thinking like ground yawning style earthquake where the bridges are

collapsed or and that's like we're see. I feel like, if if we're at that point, fuck your bug out back, Like that doesn't even matter. I'm going to the I'm going to Marine Headlands. I'm camping out. How are you going to get there across that Golden gate bridge that doesn't exist anymore? I don't know. It's jet ski and they got paddles and an inflatable raft. I got a kayak. I'm making my way to Alcatraz and

I'm holding it down. Yeah, I mean that's really the scarier thing is the idea of because you know, we're we're very dependent on bridges and stuff to get around in this in this in this city and in this this area. So I'm just I'm just worried about looters. Like literally, I'm worried about because like when it comes like push comes to shove, if it's the question of your survival of mine, like, of course, I'm gonna kill you. Like why wouldn't you like that? Seriously? That's why I just

go straight to the country and just get it alone. Let's go out to my dad's. He's got property, he's he's got guns. Like why why would you live if you prepared? Why would I let you live and me die? Why? Because it's fair? Well, how but I think you're maybe overestimating how quickly it would turn. I don't think it's just earthquake. And then I'll say this about about the eighty nine quake, like that wasn't that wasn't your fucking you know, earth yawning, open kind of thing,

but everyone was. It was the most cordial and together I have seen residence of the San Francisco Bay Area. I think it could turn in a week because Okay, so over some time, if like care isn't coming in and there is, yeah, that's when it gets bad. Yeah, because that's not gonna happen. That's not gonna happen. That's like a weak But you better have your your shotguns and your milk ready otherwise you're in trouble. The milk's gone bad. Not in Quite Tower, that's right. Yeah, shot

guns and milk. That's a day spells me. Well, I'm not going to quit. I'm gonna go blow up Quite Tower. Oh man' that's my first place your power rap? Yeah? Who is dropping Quite Tower? Who doesn't want to sit on like the top of like a castle on the top, I can just sit there and snipe people, would be great. This one word, yeah exactly. Yeah, that's why you got to get out. Just get out of the city. Alldus. You already made the right

decision. Vinny moved to the birds. It's already like ten times the earthquake hit. What what's you guys can leave, They'll be the potent tative perfect. I'm the only one here that actually still lives in the city, you know. I'm sorry. Yeah, now you're stuck here with the bay is closing it around there in your ranks to the park too, and that'll be a god that that'll just be aware, like immediately all of the you know,

everybody without a home. Yeah, everyone who's been displaced. You know, I always wanted, you know, like females set up tense and shit out there. It's like it's the one open spot. It'll be just disgusting. It'll be terrible game stuff. We're getting to it, yeah, brat stuff for the earth. You have like a lot of super interesting video game stories to tell because I don't know, we were doing fine years, all right, So you had to go and mention videos, all right, geez,

aren't youre like energy drinks or something around. I'm glad that's so eight dude. Come on, it's twenty twelve. It's twenty twelve, y'all. Ok, it's now it's it's earthquake, snares, it's it's tragedy scenario. All right, so your entire family dies, all right, Well, awesome, Brad. Anything anything else, I do feel a little bit better. That's pretty much it. You say you feel better a little bit having it there. It's actually not here yet. They have to ship it to me

because I don't never bring it up. I was gonna mention mrs they go bad. So it's not for a long time. But I think it's like you're supposed to place them every two years or a year. I think, so I'm not so mine Jesse and I have Oh yeah, we have decided that before Thanksgiving we will always eat our MRIs and then restop. So I'm actually really looking forward to that. Have you ever had an m R eve I would have to, like chalk, right, I've had a couple.

I mean, it depends on what you have. Like I have stuff that's just like like protein, Like it's just it's just a block. It's just like protein sustenance. It's like it's just a thing. Just eat it and it will taste awful. By flower ms. These aren't like military ones. Yeah, yeah, you know what Brad's talking about like I've had. I mean, I've had proper MRIs, which are like those ones would fall apart in like a second Mayflower. You should have already eaten those. I'm gonna

say those are for the Mayflower. It's maze. Uh yeah, I think I think they expire. I'm not sure water also expires too, so unless you put the drops in it. I've got books. You were way into the survival thing. Uh. Yeah, I don't have a I don't have my shot gun yet. Uh, Bradley, you play any games with me? Yeah, Bodze two played a lot more Batman, did you. Yeah, I'm warming up to that game. Yeah, you want. You were

very you were very like I don't like what they changed. Yeah. Well, the more that I forced myself to just go through the story and ignore all the side stuff, the more I like it. So I think that's that's what you did, right. Yeah. So the thing is like I got to the point where I think a lot of the side stuff just didn't trigger for me, or it wasn't. That's kind of where where I fell

off a little bit. Like I got through the story, loved the story, like just enjoyed everything that that game had me do for the most part, but there was some side stuff where just like what the objective was or where I needed to go just wasn't clear. There's there's there's there's stuff that's just like, all right, now you have to go to this area and like find a corpse or something, and I'm like, this area is super

dark and dead stuff. Yeah, so the dead shot stuff is is where I got stuck because I'm like, I'm not it's not being super clear on where I need to go. I'm kind of just wandering around but I don't feel like I'm making any progress here. So yeah, I can. I can see play it like Arkham Asylum and it's a great game. Yeah, I enjoy Actually picked up the version of Arkham Asylum because that was like a dollar over the break or something disgusting. That's a great game. Batman's pretty

good. That's a good game. Yeah, should play that. Uh played some of that Odd World Strangers Wrath definition remakes. It's available now network They is that just on PS right now? Yeah, it's not on the three sixty for whatever reason or PC, which it's probably the greatest tragedy because they put out that awful busted version of the original game on the PC. You know, was that really fucked up then? Like real bad, like unplayably

bad. Some people have extremely fond memories of like like a few people of Strangers Rapa. There are things about that that I remember thinking pretty cool at the time, And I played just a little tiny bit of it before the break. What think of it? It's kind of showing its age a little bit, but you know it's got some unique to Yeah, it looks fine scale up well, yeah, mainly the way it's put together, like through

the through the lens of the last seven years. My memory of that game was like, oh, it's a big, open like western environment to roam around in, but it's totally not very narrow. It's just it's like a hubtown with like little spokes coming off of it that are just like like straight linear levels. It was like it was the cool stuff with the ammo. Ye it was at least not yeah, very unique, but I might play some more of that cool. What else to play right now? Yeah,

there's not much. I don't know. If you get into that back catalog you've got anything else in there that you're eyeballing Your back Caddy played a little bit of push mo. Yeah, that's pretty good. That's a great game, right that that makes me think. It makes me feel better about the three DS. It's like, you guys are doing it right, Okay, at least something games always seven dollars and it's really cool and unique and it looks nice and you don't have to put anything in your system to play it.

So yeah, it's just I wish it didn't have to exist exclusively in the ghetto of the three DS EA store yet, although now that they at least let you save your credit card information and also let you buy points in the exact amount that you need, which I realized because I had like a dollar on my three DS account and like, there's nothing you can buy fu fuck yourself for a dollar. How about that shop, I'll under cut that fifty cents. Come on, fuck yourself for smile twenty five cents. It

takes his two bits. But yeah, so I had that much on there. I'm like, I want to buy a push Moo. It's like, well, you can either just buy you know, the preset amounts or exactly however much you need and what that sounds great? So no balance on there anymore? Yes, push most great. I think that's it. Awesome, Yeah, fantastic. What are you looking forward to in twelve? One out of twelve? Do you want this? What do you want? What do

you want? Brad? Make it through the year. Yeah. If my mrs are still in their boxes at this time next year, then I will consider it this year that success. Twenty twelve should be fun. I hope so. Like GDC C yes, is happenings effect mass effect? Man, I can't wait to hear about new TV's officially. My parents got a fifty five inch TV right before I came home. Now my TV is woefully inadequate. I need a new television. Yeah, yeah, another feeling. Let's

see what they announced. Dave Snyder, that's me, Dave. Thanks for coming and sitting with us today. It's awesome. It's awesome. I know I'm here. Yeah you haven't. We've been busy site architect in and designing or I guess co designing our amazing Game of the Year stuff, which, yeah, it's pretty dumb. I want it once again. I want to thank Fey Caravella and Dave Snyder and the rest of the pretty dumb creative team. That stuff came out so much better than I even ever could have possibly

imagined. Yeah, I want to thank everybody for the amount of trust that David. I just kind of going off and going to a costume store and they come back for you for you're you said space Egyptian. So this is what we got. You were supposed to be a cowboy. Here's a sombrero. This guy looks like a chic Space Egyptian. Really turned out a lot

better than I think anyone could have anticipated. Yeah. The funny part with Finny was he was very much buying little pieces too, outfits, and it's like, oh, so that's for the cowboy, and he'd always be like, no, that's space everything. It didn't matter what it was. It was like a bag full of space egypt alright, like everything that went into the other pile, right, No, that's staff. Is this the wizard stuff? No, that's a space man as the wizard. I was very

jealous supposed to have. Yeah, well because it was I wasn't quite sure it was gonna make a space and I saw that that like, I don't know, this is as Egyptian as it gets. In the store, I thought, I thought the robot and monocle really brought up. I think you saw that that was that was what it needed. It made everything else makes sense somehow, because otherwise he's just an Egyptian. I'm still kind of bumm though, because his like headpiece covered the very carefully crafted ange it a little

bit. Yeah. Yeah, and the headband didn't fit, so he wasn't wearing the gold headband, but the sash he found the amazing old lady talking about talk about things not fitting you guys. Guys handed me my costume, which included a women's extra small T shirt. Well that just comes from like Dave's version of comedy, which is like by everything way too small in store for that. And then he said, oh is that stars on it?

And perfect? Perfect? Oh my god. The I ended up cutting it down the middle in the back and pinning it to my shirt was on there. I'm not actually wearing the sheet, it's just a shirt. Dicky's just hanging hanging on. We had a budget and we came on under our budget and we're very happy. Yeah, it ended up having to be piecemeal,

and you know, the everything else was really expensive. The best line of it was us going in there and Pitty being like, all right, so we're trying to do you have anything like cheaper and the guy who's ruining the store was like, sir, we don't sell anything, and I was like, we need okay, so we need a wizard. He's that okay, I need I need a space Egyptian. All right, I need a night No, not gonna happen, not gonna happen. How much? Nope, not gonna happen. Okay, No, that's what I said, a night

spacey ism cowboy, like, night's not gonna happen. I was like, wizard. Okay. The wizard was good too. When you guys went in, was the plan that Brad was gonna be a night Yeah? Really he's on the fly, be like all right, he's a wizard. Now that we saw that hat and the guy was like, yeah, you know you could cut the ears off the head, We're like, no, we're keeping. It's funny because Brad and I had that same conversation of like, should

should the ears are like nope, ears should probably stay on. Uh no, you were gonna be a cowboy and cowboy hat to really expensive. She got somebrero I think the sombrero and fantastic and you and then blanket with a hole cut in it, which was Dave's truck. Yeah. Did that go back into your truck? No? I don't know what, but it will. I mean yeah, you'll want it for whatever. Did you cut the

hole? Yeah? Yeah, wow yeah. Because weird one was like you're gonna I was like, fuck yeah, look great matches hat and it worked. I felt like it worked perfectly. And then the convict the jumper yourself. I bought that on my own. You bought stuff like after the fact, and so then we got the wig and the wig was supposed to be like Elvis. I know you bought Elvia Jailhouse Rock because I was thinking of the guy from Shawshack, like the guy who comes in like late can play

that. And then we got those glasses and then I was like, this isn't gonna play. And we got an extra small shirt for me, and then that didn't work, and then it was like extra small shirts for everyone, even even Drew was a pretty spelt dude. That shirt was hard. Uh yep, this was a lady shirt too. It was it was all of fun. That was That was God, Yeah, that was that was and again the the finished product we are now apparently on the hook for making

a v game. So don't throw away your costume. Yeah, keep that stuff. We're gonna need these to bring these characters back. At some point most of them were dead. That's true, right, that's right, everyone died. Huh prequels, Yeah, that's right. Story the stories exactly how did you become the sheriff of that time? I was in the sheriff I had. I was just there and that was just the old rummy, going back to kind of like asking everybody for kind of their patients. It was

like, Okay, here's all your stuff. It's come up with like a five step short story about new player, and it was it was like it was like day of like standing on the green screen, like all right, no, invent all of the dialogue and come up with how you're going to say the name of the next thing? Okay, the next one go, which I have to admit kind of shows, but it's also kind of what

I love about it, luckily offensive. Yeah. Yeah, And I actually watched a little bit of Mad Dog McCree to get into to find my character bank. I do. I do think we missed the compromy with the helmet though, to do a sewer shark impression. That's always next year. Yeah, that's true. I don't want to look too far behind the curtain. But how did you do that hat flying off shot? Did you have a fully rigged up somewhere. Yeah, it was electric. It was the it

was the blue tape. It was the painters tape using blue painters tape. It was it was attached to the little like neck string. Okay, And and it was he was on and interns was on like a little step stool off to the side because he because he had to pull it like pretty much straight up or else it would knock the little hat underneath it off and a little hat had like this very thin little string that was keeping it attached to

my head. Also have to say, we have to give credit Halloween store guy's idea for the little and he was like, it's only eight dollars more and we're like, wow, that's still that's worth. Did he say like it could be on underneath it the you know, post Halloween? He was probably happy for the business. Guess it was the off season. I also wonder why, like guys that work at costume shops don't dress and a costume. It's kind of dressed like purple hair. But yeah, imagine it's you

know, they're like theater texts. That's like where theater texts go to die is costume shops in San Francisco. Next with a great sausage places. Place is good. Yes, Thomas. Thomas pulled it off, though it's like seven takes. Yeah, really, I took a bunch of takes because we had to figure out like, Okay, you're shooting, you're shooting, you're shooting, you're shooting, and bam pull yeah, best music, best original, best original music, and then most takes are the whole thing was complicated

shooting, yep. And then you came back and had to do more stuff as the convicts and you lost your convict voice and picked up my western guy voice. Yeah, thank you're talking to Drew. Talking to Drew great. It's like it's like an old luish k bit where he does the thing about a southern guy who thinks he's from New York and it's these these two accents. I can't find it, like like it's kind of the same, but

as Law took me about a minute, like two minutes. I find it again, and like god damn no, no, I can't remember that. He's saying something along the lines of okay, back to the dinner table, like he was just channeling the family again and true you do that. That was goofy and yeah, thanks everybody again for the for the patient and uh you know the trust. It came well, it came out awesome, so so God God bless you for that was a real cast in the wind.

Hard work there, that got done. Dave Snyder, how is your break? It's good? I went back east, Yeah, went to New Jersey, went to Maryland. How's the family? Got myself some cheese steaks? Nice can get cheesesteaks in Maryland? No, and Phi Philly. He did the tour I did. I went to talk those boards Gino's and pats So near the Philly side of Jersey. South Jersey, which nobody likes to remember exists. Everybody's all North Jersey, New York. There's South Jersey. It's

like more pillow. That's like good. Yeah, yeah, there are like good cheesesteaks in South Jersey. Wallahs fell in love again because I've thought about I've I've I've poured over the Wahwah's website before. It's fascinated by Wawa best best hog. It looks amazing. It's really good Italian HOGI m m yeah, yeah, did some good eating Italian Yeah, I did that. Got some England, had had some England for the first time since Marino sent us

that that casey so yeah, good times. You know the oldest brewery in the country, Yeah, like East Coast or in the country, East Country. Yeah, well East Coast Country by the fault, right, even men were mad beer in California, that's right. Yeah. I had a two thousand years ago snow it out there. I met my fiance's father and turns out he's eighty six. Turned out he was an old like quasi hacker back in the eighties, Like, yeah, just tell me about his guilt about

downloading games off PBS boards. Wow on like old Attari systems. Jeez, I thought was amazing. That's pretty amazing. Yeah. And this was after he was trading me stories about like learning to box on like naval ships. I do you saying on Atari? So we got I was gonna say, did you get father in law approval? Then? I did? I feel like I did? I hope? So who knows? Did you not tell? Did you not say? Hey? Check out these Games of the Year videos. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, yo, yeah, what

do you do? Do nothing? I'm a doctor. Yeah, I work in sanitation. It's an honest job. It was good, but yeah, it's good. Saw some snow Western Maryland touched it. Yeah, I felt good about that. You always got to see snow when it's Christmas time. It's not Christmas otherwise. So Dave, Yes, we did not have a Game of the Year top ten list from you on the on the feature this year. Wise then, mostly because I always feel guilty when we do all

those things because they know how much work it's going to be. You could have been the sewer shark guy. Yeah, I could have been the sewer shark guy. But yeah, but I think that's when it was. Last year. I didn't do it because I didn't like enough games I felt in twenty and ten. But this, uh, this year is mostly just because I was like, oh god, we're doing so many of these things and

they all have individual sets and individual things. Yeah. I was like, I'm happy just making yeah, making making people, uh play dress up so they haven't need a periscope I'll get yeah, yes, yeah, pariscrope. That was hard. To find. It's very hard to find. Gad for Patrick. I don't know, he's in like space, he's in like virtual space. I'll figure it out, alright, alright, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, I got it. I got it. No, no, yeah, let me do another Google image search Space Egypt. It's

just nothing coming, zero results. It's it's it's a really this year I think has the best story of like how this all just came together. It's not really for this podcast, but just really because Space Egypt was kind of the that was the start. That was a jump start. I was like, looking, you made the background, they made that play. It started as most things do, where Jeff fucking dares you to do something dumb and you're like, fuck you fucking boy, you want fucking Space Egypt. All

right, But it wasn't It wasn't even that at that point. It was all right. When I come back from break, you had you had the castle in space and like and the whole background, and you had the wooden gate and you guys are telling me like, it's gonna come down, it's gonna do this, And then we did the long story short. Uh, You're like, well, Jeff, you're gonna use this, what do you want to be? If you would dress up? And he just looked at the backgrounds, I want to be Space Egypt. I was like, okay,

done. It's it's like this stupidity brinksmanship where everyone it's like, well, fine, no, well then here's your space your background, great, where's my costume? Well do it? Who's gonna blink? Yeah exactly, no one, No one will, and then no one blinks and then we get fucking Space Egyptians giving you top ten games? Patrick doing a dumb step in the backgrounds, That's exactly what that was. It was like, well what if he just what if he just does depths? Okay, yeah,

okay, that sounds good. Should we leave in his voice? Or it would be cool if we could put it into actuals. Okay, all right, get reason, pull it up, man, dumb claptop super dump. So what are your in a more casual, a lower stakes setting here, Dave Snyder? Do you have top ten games? Skyrom is your top ten all through all tens? I can tell you, like I understand, it

provides an experience you can't get. Would you guys have here the ones that I can think up off hands that I really liked Love Skyrom loved h I love Space Marine. I was playing that Space Marine I did really I a single player of that. I breezed through in like two citys. Yeah, just like ran through it. Saints Row, I dug else we got on here, Portal two. I mean they're all, you know whatever, the bigger ones that I didn't like at all. La Noir I could do with.

And nobody's gonna be able to visually see this, but I am just turning my hand back and forth. Yeah, that's what I thought that game was. Yeah, it was. I couldn't do it. I liked Battlefield three a lot. I thought that was really funny multiplayer. Uh, and I didn't really get to check out any of the Star Wars stuff. But

that doesn't really fit in year end stuff. Yeah, it isn't kind of funny, how you know it when you're MMO, it just you can't kind of fit it in there well, and especially needs six months, especially like I just people were posting reviews of that game within the first week of it being up, and I'm like, that's it's just silly. I'm not sure, well, even reviewing MMOs in general, Yeah, because it is. Because it's it's service oriented. Yeah, right, Like that's that's the shift

for for the MMO. The concept is like, you're not it's not really about the fucking boxed game. It's about the continued access and online you know. And it changed so much. Also, Da Sex never would have thought that game would have been good, Like you would have told me, Oh, they're making like a new day sex gamp. Yes, yeah, fuck that and it was great, like worked. That seems like the either the ultimate Dave game or the ultimate anti Dave game, depending on how it came

out. Ah, I thought it did pretty well. I didn't get to play enough which or two, mostly because I got scared of it, like, you know, you die just like immediately. I was like, oh god, they patched the holy hell out of I know, so I'm gonna go back to it. Do you like those rooms like games you like dying aren't afraid of? Yeah? I do. And that's what I played over

break. I was playing that binding Isaac, which is fantastic. That's a fantastic play on a keyboard er, did you go through the hassle of setting up I played? I played on keyboard because I was playing on a Mac and I just need something to play. So I was playing that Revenge of the Titans, but I really liked binding Him Isaac. That was It's that same sort of thing, but it's a lot easier to play. Cool. So there you go, Dave, like skyrin. Yes, I felt a

lot better after I heated discussion in here. Then you asked me what we had picked the next day. Oh yeah. In your response, I was like, all right. My commentary to Jeff was like, if you don't pick that game or the game that you like, you guys are idiots. That's what I told. I was like, and my, my, uh my only evidence for it was that Sean Coons had put in fifty hours on skyrom Jeeze really and I was like, Sean Coon's put fifty hours in an

RPG. I think I think your exact words to me were, it's beyond discussion. I start into it. Yeah, okay, I mean like, I don't know. That game was just too it got all the all the points. The only thing that could be really faulted for it where maybe some of the combat stuff. And really you couldn't even comment, you know, you couldn't make any commentary on that until dead Island came out for me, so like it was almost as close to a perfect RPG as I've seen.

I think you're crazy. Big Open World, Yeah, Big open World games easy to play, like easy to play, got rid of all the crap that the other ones had. So I don't know, very easy for me pick that one. I don't think it was even close this year. All right, well, there you go. Dave Snyder's favorite games from twenty eleven. Crazy, how your How was your breaking good? I played a lot of sky. I heard you bought a grill by a grill when the party's

got grill scars already. I don't have a fift people in my apartment for pay. You got a grill outside apartment? Really? I thought you're in a house. Well, it's a townhouse, but it's it's a It's like I have the floor, so it's townhouse. Is not a duplex? Right? Mine is a duplex. But but not all duplexes are towns. There are people underneath me and I have shared walls. Oh yeah, wait so what yeah? So what's a difference between a townhouse on apartment. You can

own a townhouse. It's a condo. Okay, yeah, I'm renting a condo basically kind of blurry lines between well like, well, so the apartment building, someone owns that entire building. Right, A condo you can own, yea, and the duplex is to know what Alex is, Okay, I didn't know if it had to do with external interests. I have a back patio, okay. Uh, I'm on the second floor. I have a back patio and got like a kettle grill using the webb or yeah.

Actually, so it's one of those like webber you know, like the pretty much grill. Right, it's a kettle thing. Uh, it's a webber. It's a grill, big rounded, big grounded thing. Yeah, it's a barbecue grill. It's a barbecue grill. It is a grill. Uh. So we bought We didn't buy the like you know, typical Kingston briquettes for our first grilling. Bought this. Uh it's basically charcoal wood. Fancy sit is it fancy? It was the same problem and gosh, I was

telling Drew this story. So it was about eight o'clock at night in the winter, so it's pitch dark on a patio. I don't grill up a fucking omaha. Steak I got for Christmas. Uh, and those things were real good. So I bought one of those chimney steeper things to light the charcoal faster. Yeah, and uh, I put that on the grill and I put the wood in there. And I've never used charcoal wood before. And the way the chimney thing works, it sucks up air from the bottom

to ventilate and blows it out the top. So it's like a wind tunnel in there. And at eight o'clock at night on my back patio is like a Roman candle had gone off. That was just spring hot ash from the wood as it's seating up into the air. And the back of my apartment or condo faces like a trail where people walk down, and the walking by looking over at these sparks flying out, and I'm not even sure if I'm allowed to have a grill, So I grabbed the tops of their open air

above you. Yeah, I'm on the second floor. There's nothing above me, okay, so but you know there's stuff around me. And I'm walking over with the lid a kind of shielding ass back down onto the concrete because it's a concrete patio. Because I was so nervous that somebody's gonna be like, what are you doing in there? But it worked. It was fantastic. Man. I used it three nights in a row once I started getting that thing going. Oh yeah. I've talked to will Smith about it a

lot. He said that they they cook like six minutes out of seven, so good. It's just what I want. Yeah, they have big Green Egg things. Smoker, a smoker, big Green Egg. Yeah. Yeah. If I had a bigger place, I would have gone a smoker too. But that that's a weekend investment. That's like you have spend like eight hours. Yeah, that's that's they like get up early on a Saturday, starts smoking. And he thought about a gas grill or you just walk straight

to the charcoal. I thought about it for a second, but I don't really want one. I think they actually might be illegal for the apartment because there's basically bombs, you know that. I firmly believe in the gas grills. That's what I'm thinking about. I mean, they're cleaner, and and they're they're they're easier, and the propane is just not that expensive. Charcoals actually, Will add I almost went through half five bags. Yeah, yeah, and there's it's just the set up time. I just I just like

the alight, I want to I want to grill something. Boom, I've got heat. But let's I used like the lcanic rock or whatever in the kind of can't beat that smoky taste though it's just the meat, just the charcoal just puts off that kind of extra even I I just smell like cancer. It's a yeah, it smells. It smells delicious. So that was great. That was that was a grill. Nice nice getting me the cool swag uh for Chris. For Xmas, I bought myself bunch of stuff.

My wife and I uh kind of said we weren't going to buy each other a bunch of stuff, and then we wound up buying each other a bunch of stuff like grills and iPhones and nice stuff like that. So that was a lot of fun. I cancel my cable twenty twelve, Gonna see how that goes. Yeah, interesting, I think it's an interesting year to try. So what are you what are you using for your sources? Then?

So my computer is hooked up to my TV in the living room. Yeah, so I don't really need any of the boxes or Hulus or Apple TV's or who the devices. All that stuff is like in your consoles now, like as a console owner, it's like, but it's also on your PC. So it's like I've used Amazon's movie stuff already. That stuff is great. Yeah, it's a lot cheaper than a Comcast Direct TV. They were charging six or seven dollars a movie and HD. My mom freaking loves the

Amazon stuff. It's like three dollars and then the quality is really good. I've tried, I'm trying Hulu us. I don't. I don't like the ads. Yeah, pay for ads? Yeah, terrible refuse. It doesn't bother me that much. U it should be bothered. I understand that they probably that stuff is so expensive to license that, Like, I don't care if there are some ads in there. Well, my problems has never been the well, the problem is that there's ads, but more so that it's

the same ads over and over again. They do not they do not have the ad inventory to that might be true to sustain it. Yeah, but like you know, it's it's eight dollars a month and that stuff it's probably really expensive to try and get. Well, the problem that I had was, like I felt like there wasn't enough differentiation between that and Netflix. Most of stuff I would want to watch on Hulu for the most part is on

Netflix. Yeah. The thing for me it was a Daily Show and the Colbert Report, which which the day after if you are a daily watcher of those, Yeah, the daily stuff because on iTunes, the season past for that stuff is I think it's like ten dollars for sixteen episodes, so that would be ten dollars a month, whereas Hulu is per Daily Show or Colbert Report also not an HD. Uh so Hulu for eight dollars you get you know, your monthly. Yeah, so it was a lot of call.

That's That's what I've learned since cutting cable is you're gonna have to go out at this point and pick and choose what's like. Apple is gonna have some stuff that you're gonna want, Hulu's gonna have other stuff. No, not right now, So that's a little difficult. The other thing is, uh, and this is more my wife than me, there's no just sit down and channel surf. You have to know what you want to watch, sit down and watch it, or you need to just there's no like random on

Netflix. That's just like, I don't know, I need something on in the background. It's like I'll put this shitty documentary on. I don't know. So that more for her because she kind of just puts TV on when she comes home. Sometimes it's like I just want background noise. It's like, no, you gotta sit down, go put Like an episode of I've had that with the girlfriend as well, is that she still would would rather watch shitty I don't care, just something I don't I can't make that distinction.

Like my girlfriend does the same thing. She wants like background noise to fall asleep too, but she just like plays something on Netflix and just goes,

yeah, yeah. I think I think it just worked fun. But I think this is just like the extra st there's no there's no yeah, and there's no play all button, you know, right, like a randomize So like if you could just say, hey, playton things in a row, I don't care what they are, that that might work, right, So I'm just like button, that's just like think all right, I fell asleep in two seconds anyway. Yeah, but so far, I am just so excited. I am so excited. I am so excited to you not

be under the thumb of big media. You choose, you choose, Oh gosh, man, that Bill watch TV on the man's skill and crap not having that Bill. Man, that Bill's crazy. Always up to like two hundred bucks a month and uh and the things they charge you for are I mean you guys will heard it probably from me before, where it's just like, you know, ten dollars a month just for HD, another fifteen dollars for a DVR, like seven dollars to write your cable modem, like fifteen

dollars and FCC fees. Yeah, like you know, three dollars because it's you know, Tom's kids bar mitz for this month. It's like, what are you doing? Kick into the coffee can launch and it's just like, what are you talking? Like I don't want I watched four things on television. I watch The Daily Show, I watched Colbert Report, I watch Top Chef, and I watch MythBusters and like that's all I want. And it just so happens that most of other things are on cable, so fuck,

it's like, what are you gonna do? I'll be bummed out when Game of Thrones comes back on because there's no good way to get that right now without having HBO or knowing somebody who has HBO, so you can get HBO go. So that's that's the only thing right now. I'm gonna try the over the air HD with antenna. See how that goes. It's kind of like my year of testing it out. Yeah, I used to have the phone. Funny how you both are going in this process, how you both

go forwards and backwards. You're both like, all right, we're getting off of cable, we're getting onto the internet, but also just radio wage man and I put up my bunny ears. Also it's like, you know, they're broadcasting really good over the air HD signals, really Chris better than better than Beau. I was comparing. And then the Comcast is charging you for just HD, and it's like, I don't thank you. It's just in the air all around me. I'm surrounding collecting HD. So we'll see.

And this conversation is cloaked in HD signal. And then talking to people like I was talking to Brad and Drew and Joey and Thomas. We all kind of have the same thing. Brad, you don't have cable either, and Drew doesn't, and Joey doesn't. But we all have a similar package and we're all from Comcast, all paying like wildly different sums for like basically the same thing. Really, Oh yeah, it's all just like like when you signed up and what deal you got, who's getting what? Like how fast

is yours? Like wow, yours is faster than mine? But I'm paying more than Like I'm paying seventy five just for Internet, and I think you said you're paying like sixty nine for Internet and basic cable. And it's like it's been all for four years nothing, no cable, no cable, Internet, right, Yeah, I pay the internet like the internet, pay as much as you need. Yeah, I've been probably about a year no cable,

maybe a little more, but yeah, same same thing. Where like I signed up for just internet because they're like, oh, it's like fun bucks cheaper for cable if you know, for your internet, if you get the cable TV too, And I'm like, yeah, but I have to spend like eighty bucks to get that, so that's not really a deal. So no, just charge me, yeah, charge me sixty bucks a month for it. I don't care, it's fine. Fuck you. And at one point some dudes came to my door, and they're like, dude,

it's like free if we give you Basic cable. Did you get it? Was just like it was just like some package upside, Like we'll tell them that you said that you were gonna go switch to Direct TV, and we'll get our fucking sale and you'll get free basic cable. I'm like, yeah, all right, that sounds I'm like, you know what that that is the amount of commitment to cable television free I'm willing to make is free? What does that involve? A box? Yeah? So they sent me a

box. So that's basically what happened to me. I actually canceled the cable and everything, and then talking to Drew, he's like, I got Basic cable and this package and it's cheaper than what you're paying. So then I called him up and was like, what the fucking can you give me this? And they're like yeah, I was why didn't you say that on the phone? I was canceling. Why would you charge me eighty dollars and this

one seventy? And they get what is wrong? So at one point they basically bumped up the cost of my cable like by ten bucks, and they said like oh right, well, that plan is now ten dollars more. I'm like, that is not worth cancel it. It's like, really, it's this promotional thing. Still do you're still getting this cheaper than anyone else? Like, I don't care. It's ten dollars is literally more than I willing to pay for the service and cancel it. They take it back down.

Well yeah, and they gave me the price again was it? Yeah? I want went back to sixty. It's like fucking used car salesman stuff going on. It's so crazy. It's not the industry that you think that's it's it's all about you. Yell, you say, I'm gonna cancel, Like, well, let's give it to you if you're cheaper for a year. Okay, who are you? What authority do you have? Are you Bob Comcast? Like podcast was my father? It's like, what is WILLI

in dealing? Like that's what I'm Robert Comcast the third that's the authority you have? Comcast guy, Well, what do you want to pay? Really? I don't know that's what I'm paying now. I moved. I moved to a new unit in my building and call them to let them know about the address change. I'm like while I was on the phone, they were like, we're gonna go ahead and cut your bill in half for the next

six months. I'm like, what, I even as think there's these weird things of just like they're like internal promotions, and I feel like there's got to be some sort of like commission or quota for dudes where it's like you've got to upsell at least bloody blow of these things. Because the dudes that came to my door to like upsell me on the cable, we're not Comcast

employees. These were just more like contract field dudes. Like these were a couple of shady looking dudes driving around in an unmarked days of the shady cable guy. Yeah, then I'll get you every channel. I lived out in the Sticks, we didn't. We had to fight to get basic cable like run to our house, so never had the sweet shady I just think this

whole cable thing is so crazy right now. Yeah, well, I I you know, I hope more people realize because like it takes a little more work to do what you're doing, but ultimately you find out, like man, I can spend so much less money to get exactly what I want. So I've gone from I've gone from a two hundred dollar bill down to what hopefully it's around the seventy dollars bill. Yeah and so and I also I also bought my own modem now, so I had to the triple play,

which was the phone and everything. So I got rid of the phone. I want to use a different phone thing, a different solution which should be free. Uh. And then by doing that, I'm able to buy just the modem now that doesn't have the voice over IP and it for myself. You just go by that sh and I just did, and I just bought it, and I don't have to pay the stupid rental seven dollars. I

did that. I did that when I first signed up. Was I just went and said, like Motorol surfboard, Yeah, exactly what I just my dots is three and it's like, damn it, I'm still paying the stupid Just get four dollars a year for the motor the stupid. It was literally the first thing I did. Was probably paid like three hundred dollars to them. In the last three years, I forgot about the craziest thing that happened. I bought my family like a Roku box, and so we're on there

right. Yeah, we're the fourth top rated app on ro yep, guess the top three about it to now top rated, not most downloaded, top rated, top rated Netflix? No not Netflix. Tested the Mormon channel, the Catholic channel, and uh damn what was the what was the third one? So some other like political thing. So it's like we looked like some weird and then Whiskey, then Giant Pop. We are not yet bigger than Jesus. Yeah, but test it was on there too, so I felt

like, I know they're pretty high, but we'll represented well. I felt fairly nice in front of my family, So thanks everybody for rading. No, it seriously like Roku legitimizing, legitimizing this job to like immediate family. It has been working wonders and it's like, look see it's on your TV right there, so he pressed that button. Yeah that's me. I'm shocked what mainstream in roads Roku seems to be making. That's in particular came out.

It seemed like it was gonna cater so like to do it yourself and droid like like you know people that like to update food where and they're like you know, compile kurnels and stuff. But like it seems like everybody is getting into this. Well it's it's you know, they figured it out first, and you see everyone else like Apple, TV, phone line super quick. You know Box he kind of does it too. It's just it's so stupid and simple. It's just like the box itself is like you can't really

screw much up with the box. It's like it's got an HDMI Port'll get into the HDMI ports. It's got an Ethernet port. You don't have Ethernet used Wi Fi. That's whatever. That's fun, power good, right, and then it just you pull it up. It's like, oh yeah, it's like the four buttons on this remote. The amount the amount of overlapping those services is staggering. Like like my parents got that new TV, yeah, they and stay of getting a cable box, they bought an HDTVO and

had a cable card put in that, so they got that stuff. They my dad has like like Roku. So yeah, that's kind of where that's where I'm going. Like my dad bought a PS three over Black Friday because it was cheap and he likes buying stuff, and I bought him the remote for that thing, and I was like, well, now you got this remote that'll do all your PS three stuff. I get there. The TV has Netflix built into it, has a Netflix app in its Yeah, the

PS three obviously has Netflix, like everything does everything. I've got, Like, I've got like four devices attached to my TV right now that can stream movies. Like, yeah, they all do the same stuff, not just the Apple TV is the only one they'll do this store right, the Apple Yeah, they're they're Walt Garden stuff isn't effect uh see that That's the only bummer is the Apple TV. Stuff. That's actually pretty good accents, pretty

good library. It's still expensive, but pretty good. But yeah, like when I was looking at the Roku stuff, everything has like I was looking at a Blu ray player and I was like, yeah, it's got Amazon and Realku and you know, whatever else you want. I don't know, we'll just throw it in there right now. Three D did not sell the unit that we needed to sell. God were like this, people are talking about Boxy, So I guess I don't know apps. Stop hoping that with

an install base. Now that like a little flesh out a bit. The whole Roku and Hulu experience. I'm still trying the Hulu stuff. I don't mind the commercials. My wife and mindset. I think if you if you are like going for a specific piece of content that's on there, Yeah, totally sense. Yeah it's a day later, but like I get it for like I want these shows, they're only available this way. I still I still wish they'd you know, you're paying them whatever eight bucks a month,

give me something for Christ's sakes. Yeah, well, like I said, I don't, I understand. It's whatever. It's better than the one hundred and thirty the Comcast, right. That's that's how phenomenally bad the cable model is. Is that paying eight bucks a month for two shows. I just need to convince my parents to get HBO so they can send me their HBO go code. You guys really get Hbo is a lot of hay king.

I'm curious to see how that's gonna end up. Looking on on the three sixty when that finally rolls out, if they would say, if HBO would sell me directly like sixty dollars, the barrier are gonna be fucked with. It's horrible. On Boxy, what is the HBO stuff because it basically just launches up the browser. Well, that definitely won't happen on the three sixty. But the problem with with the with that in the Bay Area is that Comcast does not have a TV deal with HBO. They only have a mobile

deal with HBO. So part of the thing is like, you know, you have to be signed up with HBO. Yeah, they don't have a Comcast as a carrier of HBO. It's like usually you go and you you know, punch in your your cable credentials to launch the app and it verifies like, okay, you're an HBO subscriber. Here's all our stuff. You can do that on the on like an iPad or whatever mobile devices. Yeah, that's what I did. Yeah, through comcasts. Yeah, but if you try to do that on your TV, it will not work. I

didn't know that it does not work on huh like TV ready device. Yeah, they just they are able to see Nope, that's attached to a TV. No, you can't use HBO go here. So that's a weird thing on Hulu because like on some of the Hulu shows, they're like because Hulu Plus basically they're big sell is like you need Hulu Plus for devices. That's not that's what they're And so some shows they're just like, we don't want to be on Hulu Plus because we don't we don't want to be on a

device that could be hooked up to a TV. Right, It's like, who are you? Like, like, that's the commons, weirds media man. Yeah, you're drawn them out slowly making it makes sense like look see look, people will pay for last the wheels like grinding, like, oh, you need to move just a little bit. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Just take it off the TV, reset everything back to zero. Yes, we'll just we'll go back to you know, verbal

mythologies. That's do you want Vinnie plus, I'll tell you the good story. He's the only one he's got playing a game I did. I played a ton of sky Rim, still waiting for click with you Like I'm like playing it oddly, I don't know telling about your character? What do you want to know about my character? Tell me about your dude, So let me tell you a story about my character. Okay, my character walks around the towns of sky Rim, and I don't of sure, uh, And

it's part of Tamiel right, yeah, the world. Uh, she wasn't sure if that was like a kingdom. And so my I've got stround sounds set up in my living room because now I said, my PC's hooked up there right onto the big TV and it's got the surround sound and I guess it's either Skyrim or my setup. But my center channel is real low. Right, So every time I walk up to a guy and you initiate a conversation, it locks you into like pretty much like a forty five degrees on

each side. You can turn right, you can't, and it's kind of exponentially slows down as you try to turn your head. So looking directly at Brad trying to talk to him, its super low. Starts talking like this because it's just my center channel. But as I turn over to the side, it starts getting a lot louder. Yeah, that sounds like an audio problem. So so as I every time I had a conversation with a guy, I literally had to like talk into my good year, like lower my

head down. Well, maybe maybe your characters be your speakers also. Well, so I think my center ch because I can do independent volume. I never noticed it before. It was only in Skyrim. But it was just like my wife is watching me play, and she's like, why every time you talk to a guy you drift over to the side, like lower your head down, like I think I got a bed. Yeah, keep talking,

what's keep going? What's that's going on? But as I'm doing that, the people around me and Skyrim are like the most socially unaware of people in the world, because all they do is run up behind you, like, good job with cabbages, I love tomatoes. Looks like rain today, Like don't talk to it, Like keep telling me about the daughter and the

dragon. Can I'm not trying to talk to these other people, and so it's just equally as loud as everything that's coming in over here, So it's like impossible to So finally I just blast up the center channel and it blocked out everybody else. Uh, I don't know what's wrong, Like everybody wants to make eye contact with you in Skyrim, Like it's almost like walking with your head down, like don't look kind of sick, Like I'm fine, I'm fine, Just keep going. I love to play songs. I'm a

bard. I don't want to hear about it. Keep walk straight yards stare man and then everybody. I don't know why, but everybody in your front pocket. Also, it's terrible. I hate walking around towns because it's just and you know, I'm taking every quest. I ends everybody who runs up to me. It's no no, no, no, no no no, just I wish you could put your arms out. And how's the Vinny hording going? Already? I'm playing on the PC. So my carry weight is

now about three thousand, so I just maxed it out. Yeah, give Vinny carry weight equals like three hundred thousands. All the fun is putting all that stuff in your home. I don't home. Yeah, I hadn't buy a house. I went off on like side quest Land. Yeah, that's I put that game. I haven't gotten anywhere in the did you guys at least open up dragons? Yeah? I mean to kill him. Yeah.

Oh yeah, I'm like basically the dragon hunter. I just run around scaling vertical cliffs on my Billy Goats slash horse and uh, I'm finding dragons. I'm playing Fief four. Liked it. It's great. I'm like, oh this is perfect and finally God being a thief. So my my guy is uh I'm using one handed and uh a one handed weapon and basically switching my

left hand between magic and a shield occasionally. That's that's how I started out, and like, I didn't really start enjoying the combat until I've focused on one of those. So what you can't like in general, I don't you can't really be a jack of tri l trades in that game. I'm trying to have a lot of fun with any one of the dispoints. I like. So you're using dual dual wheeled, so that's the thing, Like he's going straight thief. I ended up going with the shield with some shield perks,

you have some blocking perks. So I've got like, uh, you know, I'm getting up there, like my level is getting pretty pretty high. I think I'm like twenty something and it's like I've got about four points. I'm just sitting on at this point because I just you know, you're waiting for your skill to hit like fifty or something because you want to drop those points in uh, and there's just stuff I don't want to I don't I don't have There's like seven magic trees and I'm like, I'm not I'm

only using destruction uh and restoration like the block. I'm not really putting points in too right now, but I want to get all those one handed skills, but like trade getting that up train so I had tons of money and I just keep trying to train. But that's five per level. I don't know. I'm having a tough time deciding what to put points into, what

I like using for combat. And I die so damn quickly. I'm heavy armor, and I die so quickly with guys with two handed weapons, like like two hits, and then one hit will take me down like seventy five percent half and I'll be like shit, at that's a big well. And then the animation goes in, and it's always like a question of like am I gonna no? No, you decapitated me? Like okay, all right, I don't know why is it like they're kreitting me? Is that what's

happening? Because it's too if they're too handed, Yeah, I mean they do a lot of damage. Most of those guys, they're kind of like the bosses of each little dungeon. Most of guys they've been too handed, but they're just like guy, I get I get one shot, Like I'll get one shot, So it makes it like really tense for me. Yeah, I can take out like three guys with a bow and then you have

to deal with that. You get spotted, you're you're kind of screwed, but you've got well until you run through the coast mechanic in the game, so you can, you know, you strategize. It's fun. I don't I like it. The comment to me is satisfied. I just have the controller in my hands as amount of PC of control in my hand, keyboard next to me, and just at five, oh controller, Yeah, I'm just not controller and then just have fiving after kind of like every guy.

I killed that guy at five because you could die really quickly in the world. There's no auto save, you know, unless you've been in the menu or something like that. So every time you can set that interval when you when you go into the character in you so like you'll run around the world and like and then all of a sudden, I don't know why, but my must be the same for you guys. Is everybody's a bandit. There's like like that's a cool town over there. Hey, looks it looks like

there's somebody over here. Like fuck, like we'll go the other way. Look at that like cool cross thing over there, the U I heard somebody like the ruins and stuff, Yeah, are all occupied by unsavory types. Yeah, I guess they're the ORC camps, which are in hostile out of the gate if you do yeah, there's a question you can do that makes

the Orcs friendly to you. But yeah, it's just like so at this point, I'm just on a horse, just like trying to uncover everything, but like basically like getting a close enough to ur it goes ding, and then like running the other way because I don't want to like fight all those dudes yet. Because you could spend hours in a random tomb, and so it's weird. I'm having a weird time. I can spend hours in a

random tomb. Like when I get to the end of the random tomb, it's kind of easy to go through, and there's this one where it's just like fighting my way through it. I don't know why. Jesse was like going that to him and I was like, okay, I'll go in that to him, and it was like an hour later, It's like I don't know what the hell's in here, Like I can't pick up any more goddamn

cabbages, like I don't know what I'm doing in here. And then I get to the end and there's this dude laid back in a throne, this like undead guy laid like kind of in a throne. It gets up and like kills me in one shot, and I was like, well, fuck you off. Of course I'm gonna fight you, because like, I'm not

gonna run away. So what I've been doing for most of the game is finding the traps that are in the dungeons, like those those things that the doors with the spikes on him that just slam on you, and they're pressure plated. So what I do is I just cite the guys back to the pressure plate door and then I smash him in the door. So I was like, I'm gonna bring this guy back to the pressure because it's I've never heard of anybody playing that way and it sounds completely broken to play though.

Yeah, well it's like, well, I'm just gonna bring you. This has worked for ninety percent of the guys in his dungeon, so I'm just gonna cut you back. He hits his invisible bounding the end of his string and just stops at the end of the bridge. Maybe he was just maybe I'm not coming about like set those traps? Do you think put that? I was like, come on, if you're gonna stand, I'm just I've

got about two hundred arrows, so fine with arrows on, okay. And so about an hour later after he died with his two hundred arrows, I was like, all right, well, how do you have on? He's got kind of a cool sword and that was cool. So I was like, wow, that was really hard. Walk upstairs and then there's just it was like the tomb of Baltimortar or something. It was like walk upstairs and like there was a dragon word it was a word there, but no dragon.

And then this tomb opens up, this kind of cohib opens up, and this super hard dude comes out. It just starts rusting me with fire. So I boosh him to like the end of the cliff, like foosh foosh, uh, and then he falls outside of the cliff. So I just hit him with the other two hundred arrows I have, uh, and killing I got a mask that lets me breathe. Those one of the dragon priests. Okay, so those guys, those guys are fixed level. They're

supposed to be really really hard. They're supposed to be and I was like, I don't know what I'm doing here, but like it sounds like a RPG to me, But like I had no idea what I was doing, and so that's kind of what I've been doing, is like, well, I know, I kind of know it's a bethesa the game, so I know there's a way I can beat this guy, Like I just need to get behind the rock in the right way and have enough arrows or like I know that he's not going to come past a certain point. So like everybody

I find is there's always a way to beat him. It's just a matter of how much time do you want to spend and how much you feel like you're just gonna change the game, which is kind of what it's come down to, unfortunately for me, is like you get kind of like cool loot and the mask is kind of cool. It is, Unfortunately it's the light armor. I'm all heavy armor, and I get that perk for heavy armor.

I'm doing the doing the thieves guild stuff. Now. It's actually really fun that this question are well done, but it's just not I'm still just getting frustrated with parts where I'm like, I think I'm doing really well, but I'm still having a tough time in certain spots really easy time and other spots. Uh, and it's just completely uneven, and a couple of you will talk to you just like you should go through the story more to to kind of move things along. So maybe I just need to do that.

And then I tried to shield because it was like, two handed guys are killing me. I use a shield. I mean, you can mitigate most are all the damage if you block properly. I think I need to put points in the block though, because it's it's staggering me too much every time I get hit. I never get staggered anymore. I would recommend spending those six points or whatever that you're hoarding. Yeah, well I should, right,

because because I keep thinking it's gonna where the shield. Combat really got interesting for me when I got the perk that slows down time when they're about to do a power hit on you. Oh that sounds that gives you the chance to shield. I don't know if you even know. Yeah, like just basically pull the right there in the middle of the power attack and it slows down. You just bash them with the shield and you get the slum with the boy. That sounds cool. I should developed that more. It

gets really fun. It sounds a lot better than like hiding behind a tree. Shooting three hundred arrows into do sounds awful. Well, it's cool when you think you're gonna get something awesome. It was like, that's kind of well. Like I said, those guys, as far as I know, are like fixed levels, so you could just come back. I'd beat two of them the same way if everyone wants my strategy guide of how to behind. My wife started cracking up every time. I just like, why do

you keep you Why do you have to yell bush every time? Like I think it's foush, but it sounds like boush. And so every time I would kill a dude with the trap, I would just trigger the bush sounds just because the door closed up. Bosh. It was funny. This was funny, household. That was fun excellent. I played Old Republic. What do you think? Where are you? I got a part of that. Yeah, Vindego, where's Vindego? Where Lancer or whatever? What? What?

What server are you on? I can't remember the name of the server. It's not the one that you guys said it was. It was like way too high. Yeah, my tricks are really high. Actually, I've chopped on there a couple of times last weekend and no, wait whatsoever. It's just if you get lucky, it's like peek out. Yeah, yeah, there's not I'll only make a character on it. But I just wanted to jump in and try it. If you do, let me know, because I'm I'm only level seven and I would I would like to play,

but I have no wady to play with. Are you imperial or I have both on there? But I guess see if this is what everybody's playing, Okay, there there is a GB like Republic now Kessler run is the imperial team? I can't know. There's there's a there's a separate guilt. We have bothons? Is the name of That's right? Good luck have bothons. Is it weird that there are they let you do imperial and rebel? Yeah? Kind of strange, because wow, it doesn't I thought I thought it

was like inmost standard not to let you do that. Yeah, uh, it's you know, whatever. It was Actually it was interesting and then uh and then it wasn't and then it wasn't you know, it was interesting until you realize that you're you know, doing the fetch quests and then kind of working your way up and you know, the story stuff was Okay, I'm playing a rebel, uh, the Jedi rebel. I think that there are some better than average like MMO quest designs still like qualified as like these are

MMO quests, like this is the format. We're not breaking any crazy rules here, but I you know, I it's I felt like it was worth, you know, cracking those bones open for the story stuff. You're right, there are some neat objectives there of like of like and I really do think like you know, the say what you will about what BioWare this is like there's some solid writing in there, and especially like the I tell you that I didn't play too much it over the break, but the Imperial Asian

stuff just like goes in really cool directions. Needs to dig in a little deeper. Yeah, my story as a Sith is interesting. There's Warrior Warrior, yeah like that stuffs getting a litt with a different masters kind of Well, it's interesting because you get into the darths and just realize how fucking insane all of the Sith area, there's a definite BioWare fields because you're not even because like in all these early levels, I'm sure it opens up some,

but all those early levels, like you're dealing with zero Republic stuff. It's just all like everything's all fucked up inside the Empire man, like we we like internal well, there's like there's the separation of like there's the Empire, which is like you know, star destroyers and stormtroopers and ship and then there's the Sith and they are like aligned, but the sixth priorities are not the same as the Imperial priorities. Sith is actually also a straight up race.

It's not just like hey, if you're a bad Jedi, you're a Sith. It's like, no, there are people who are genetically called Sith. It's just that anyone else that decides to, you know, get down with the dark side of the Force becomes called a Sith at some point. It is, Yeah, space racism in that game is phenomenal. It's it's right

in your face, our side stuff. I think that stuff like from what I saw, like I saw just a little bit during the beta of the Republic stuff, and it didn't grab me the Imperial stuff I think is, yeah, the Republicans way better. It just seems better if you tried gone

through the republic stuff at very little. Okay, I got kind of up to the part you have like a wooden lightsaber or whatever for the beginning of you guys read the books and stuff like the fan fition, well fan like Timothy's on stuff like that the target are you talking about the specifically the like

the Air of the Empire stuff? Well, just like the books, did you back when I was like fifteen, Like where like Leia and Han have kids and oh yeah they have twins like that starts Jedi trilogy is fairly well regarded, but like most of the recent Expanded Universe stuff is the stupidest shit you ever seen. Ever. Isn't that where the Chiss come from? I don't even know what that is. Probably there's the weird whatever the gecko things

that blocked the force. Like when I had to I had to stop looking at anything about it when I found out that they're like the Emperor has a grandson with three eyes and his name's like Triclops or something like like literally has like a third and then like at some point they go find the Glove of Darth Vader. Oh, and it's like some kind of like immensely evil dark side artifact that gives you all this power or something like. It just sounds

like that. I have not indulged. My little brother liked some of that stuff. Who's the guy at the blue face? What's thrown? Right? But it's great. There's like Lando Calrissian chronicles where you find out like who that like fish looking dude is and the guy with the weird thing around his head. It's in Cloud City. It's great. It's all right, it's glory, Yeah, of course it is, but it's fun. Yeah, I don't know. I'm sorry. Is that G cannon or as cannon?

Oh geez, I don't know what that means. There's like there are like five sac levels of the city. Yeah, it's I'm I'm a Jedi. I'm a would be Jedi. My guy's like uber, like the best Jedi uh in the farm system, the Jedi far. I still have my wooden one. Yeah, I don't have lights, but I would like. I think most classes can heal. They're all healing classes. I think there's maybe

one or two classes. I just want to make a Holy Priest together, I mean the Sifth Warrior that I'm playing, Like, you know, you have specialize at what was a level ten when you pick Yeah, like I will either become a DPS or a tank, but even I have like an n a like stand still and get all your tip points back, yeah, I mean seconds and and as Yeah, the Imperial Agent, I can straight up just cast heels. But is there like a dedicated healer. I bet

the Jedi has. Well, there's like specializing just like one of three paths that you can choose, and when you start committing down that, then you can throw down some mad heels deside, Like Okay, I'm go, like I even have it just a straight up like it's it's a healing tree for

the Imperial Agent class. You know. What I was actually really surprised by was the intro movie, which is kind of fairly long, but I'll seen it before, but it I feel like, just maybe coming from Blizzard, I feel like the Wow intro movie even for every expansion kind of shows you like, here's what your mind's eye thinks your character is gonna look like, and what you're gonna do, and like check out everybody they're all awesome, and in the older Republic one, it was like, here's what Jedies do,

and they are going to be way better than every other class out there. So why would you want to pick this Republic commando because he would die if it weren't for Jedi. And it's like, Okay, pick the Jedi. Don't play as a smuggler or anything else, because according to your intro movie, they're kind of they kind of totally pick one of the subclass. I don't want Why don't you want to be the hero of a universe'?

That's honestly, I think that's it's it's the it's the I think the fallacy, the idea of like what everyone just wants to play as the hero. It's like, I think if you're interested in playing an MMO, like you want to you want to be like I want to be the every dude I like, yeah, someone like yeah, Luke Skywalker's running around having his heroic adventure in this universe. But I don't have to be that dude. But

I don't. I don't want to be a dude that like I run up against somebody else And it's like, hey, Jedi, you want to help me on this quest because I'm just a smuggler. Jedis need smugglers for what? How do they They can't run the kessel run unless than ten parts. They don't have to run, they walk it. But that's I mean, that's my point. Everyone has a has a position to play. I guess I should try the different classes. I'll go back in. I mean whatever,

I'm sure it's balanced. I've guaranteed that what I think it is. I mean, I'm just using I've got like, you know, close range. I'm basically are you a smuggling, I'm basically a rogue Imperial agent,

which is the bad guy smuggler. Yeah, I can go into cover and I can you know, backstab and all the kind of the the roguey stuff that you would expect to do. Yeah, it's all it's all like good like clot Like the storyline is all good cloak and daggers stuff like just I mean maybe the Jedi just stuff I'm doing is just kind of a little space combat Stuff's pretty good. I haven't seen that stuff. It's various on rails.

It's like a yeah, point point and click. Jeff compared it to a flash game, which I think is maybe a little harsh, but I don't know. It's it's somewhat rebel assaulty oh mms. Yeah, I'll go back in it. It's still interesting. It's still I'm still poking at it with sticks. I think Jeff is in deep. I'll be curious to see what he has to say when he comes back. Yeah, he's I think

he's been playing hard wow. Uh and yeah, and he's and he's still he's still off for another week, so he was already he yeah, he hit twenty before the break, uh, because he Yeah, he played crazy that first week. He was pushing thirty by the time I left too. I'm real, real, real. I think I'm like, I'm seventeen. Jeff raids probably just about the scary. That's no way. Well could you imagined that? Could you imagine Jeff coming in and talking about like taking down

like some raid boss for like four hours. Yeah, he's like, oh, I bought a bunch of goal older whatever the equivalent is, what is the current credit creds? Yeah, man, that'd be nuts. Well, there's that flashpoint stuff, which is just like the small instance party stuff, and he's done a fair amount of that. But he just over levels his His solution is just be way too powerful for the encounter and then just breeze through it. He's not interested in strategizing and ringing the most out of the

MMO combat. He is about pressing one and then pressing two and then pressing five, isn't it, I guess. But he just you know, when people talk about strategy and MMO combat, they're talking about like team coordination and forced my way through this with yeah. Yeah, he's just like, I'm just gonna hit it with hammers until it's dead everything. That's kind of how I do it too, But Anya he rolls like you know. Adam Boys from Beefy Media is also way deep into that game and way over leveled.

Also, I'd like to thank Adam Boys for sending us his top five games of twenty eleven. Thank you for following that assignment super well. Adam, I might have just read that derisively at some point. Did not go up. No, I didn't put it up. I didn't forget it for five lists because here's the thing. I actually rejected submissions from people, good industry people, people who would have been awesome to have lists from, because they're like, I can't come up with ten. I can't come up with five

tie. There are so many ties in there. Number eight tie between two games. I'll let him, but that's too much. That's double the work, I guess. So it's hard. It's hard. It is hard, hard for the for the people that chose the ties. I was willing to let that slide, but yeah, then a list came in. I already couldn't pick ten, so here's five. Also, I'm going to Canada. See you actually kicked it to john He acknowledged that he only picked five. Yeah, He's like, oh, I couldn't pick ten, so I picked

five instead. Hope that works. You should have just filled now. I'm leaving the country for two weeks. Thanks Adam. So I actually kicked it to Johnny. I said, hey, Johnny, if you can finish Adam's top ten for him, whatever you want there, man, I just need a top ten list number six to evolution. So I actually I do want to thank everyone who love that a guest top ten lists. Those were awesome. Those were awesome. Thank you for putting all that stuff together, for

the for the the We've had people who have submitted in the past. You know what biggest props to two people. First off to mister Eric Wallpap because he actually approached us. Yeah, we had already started rolling out the feature. I had never asked him. I had never thought asked him. Actually felt really bad about that after the fact. He said, Hey, I saw that you're doing these these lists. Can can I get in on this?

I'm yes, yes, yes, Eric kidding. I treasure every time I get to read anything, so, uh, he just came in. He's like, yeah, give me a couple days and all I've got some stuff I want to get off my chest. And you awarded him with a

completely silly deck about himself. Yes, well, he like it's like just reading his I'm like, this is just such a I mean, Brad can can late to the giddiness when when Eric Walpaw was freelancing reviews for game Spot or ever, whenever a Walpaw review would come down the pipe and it's like, all right, we gotta you know, peer edit this, uh this review before it goes up like this. Eric Walpaw reviews are always gonna be aweso because it's gonna be the worst game, it's gonna be the funniest review.

Even the email thread where he wrote in asking if he could do a list. Yeah, it was like the stuff that's in that thread email isn't god damn funny, And and he delivered on that. So I'd like to thank him. I would also like to thank David Jaffee's assistant, Q, who has the heart of a champion. As far as I can tell, she uh she managed to make sure Jaffee was was basically touch and go for the entire time that that I was talking about having him do a top ten

list. But she was able to to wrangle Her name's Q. Well, her full name is something else, but she goes by Q. That's cool. Uh yeah, and she's awesome and she really helped make that come together. So I thought that was awesome to you know, finish off with with Greg and with the Jaffee That was yeah. Yeah. And although this were really entertaining in this year and everybody did, yeah, they were, you know what, we actually have a few stragglers as far as top tens.

Paul Barnett still wants to come in here and yell about eleven and you know, it was it was one of the things my wife really loved this year about it was just like she's like, these are interesting perspectives on like what games people are playing. So I think next year I may I may trim it down to five because there were some some good lists that I had to say, Ah, you know, we really wanted to do we m do

we get to do five? So hard? Well, because you know, a lot of the times it's it's developers who are shipping games in that year, and you know it's I understand, Yeah, it's not your job to play games. So I could see how you might not have ten favorite games to talk about this year. That stuff is great. Some folks did so thanks to everyone. You guys were all totally awesome and and those lists rocked except for the people who picked out you know who you are. I've been

a Skyward sword. Yeah, put it back on Patrick's desk. I saw that. Yeah you're done. Yeah, I mean the deliberations are coming up. We really should put some Yeah, what's going on with Dragon ball z? Yes? Remember like in the freeze of Saga where you're like, what the fuck is going on? It's pairing up for like seven episodes and then you don't do it, you wink and fuck are you talking? That's like Zelda. That's like, that's like the that's what happens for We're just like,

what am I even doing like three times in a row anymore? Like I don't even know what this is? Like petted out to be fifty The game took like over fifty hours for me to be wow, And I'm like, but what am I suck filler? Like you didn't have a great sense of like I'm on this epic question and I need to go get this next piece. It was like go back here? Do you forgot to do something? And then do it three more times? And I was like why why? I don't know, because we need to add twenty hours in here,

and like, okay, well I did that. You know what though, you know it would be awesome if you did three more times this other fight you did before, And it's like, come on, really, I guess he's back. He's a cannon. This guy kill him three times and like it's a large octooc I might as well be. I just by at the end of that game, I was just like, damn it, boy, just this is patted out. This is too long for its own good.

Interesting, It's not a perspective I've heard on that game. There are great parts in it, but I was I was struggling to make it through. Before a book, I probably wouldn't have finished. I would have having a tough time. And at the end, did you win? I did win? Everybody win? Yeah, what happens everybody? And you know that stuff that Patrick was talking about about. I didn't want to spoil whatever, whatever.

I don't think it's that well, it's it's it's just a It feeds into that idea of like there being some greater Zelda continuity, which get the funk out of my face with that. You know what, there's not one continuity. Yeah, there's three. Once you see that official like officially they had been like it branches, they are paralleled universes and you just forget it. Oh well, so it doesn't matter. You can just said it didn't matter. Instead of acting like it matters. You could just say it doesn't

matter. Each want to tell story just right like games and enjoy what you're officially like well brand just it's all going on some of like no, okay, I don't need to pay attention anymore, got it? So you don't know either, I would have I would have really just appreciated it if you had just said that death that you're making it up. Just say that it's fine, it's okay, it's not bad that you're just you don't need to come on this one. And it came out on the game Boy hardly remembers

it. We understand people like these games. It makes sense for you to keep making it right. That's good enough, because I was actually one of those people that was like, I really at one point in my life, I was like, I'm gonna play every Zelda game in chronological order, and I'm gonna make it through because I kind of want to understand what this is coming from a fool's errand yeah and uh and now for them to officially acknowledge

that, I feel justified and being like whatever. And so this one is to come athletes from playing the majority of the Zelda games out there, not all of them, because there are a ton of them. Yeah, I really did think this was this This drug was dragging on way too long and was not very entertaining. Yeah, that's my opinion. Interesting. Yeah, I don't like motion controls any non Sky games. Nope, sky Rim Sky uh, Sky Republic no, uh no, Skylanders. I'm trying to think

if I played anything on the consoles. Besides, I thought i'd turned my three sixty on, but I guess not. I played the very littlest bit of Space Marine, which uh a little clunky, but I like there's stuff I like about it. I'm dave. I'm still surprised at how much you like that game. Dude, just run, all you gotta do is run and so silly blow your shoulder like into like one hundred dudes. I just really do like It's when I first saw it was like, man, this

game looks amazing. These fights are awesome and everything just explodes constantly. But yeah, I really do wish there was a little bit more to the melee combat because I like doing that. I like just like running headlong into the groups and then it's like all right, once I'm here, there's not really a ton It's it's more just like life bar management of like, okay, they're starting to knock. Oh, okay, I need to do a combo to well is worthless? Worthless? Well? My biggest, my biggest complaint.

If I hadn't played a little bit of like with the Quick Look with with Vinny, I would have no fucking idea what's going on, because Vinny, you're the one who told me, like, all right, so Titans are this and Forge Worlds are that, and like, okay, I actually understand a little bit about you know, the Warhammer forty k universe going into this. If I didn't have that that little primer from you playing the game

on my own, i'd have fucking no idea what's going on. I really like that game too, but but I do think the melee stuff is where it falls apart, because the mechanic in it where you get your health back from doing as melee kills is vital to playing that game. Oh yeah,

but there's only like three animations. I think the reason I liked it all so much was because it was made by Relic and because I liked the RTS game so much that it felt like it it like in those games, Like really, well you were at ground level when when you use the jet pack in that game, I was like, oh, yes, it's the same

exact Yeah, it was reminiscent of that. I was gonna say that the jet pack sequences, I don't know how many of there are, but those were my favorite parts of the game because when you're that mobile and you can do like the hover and then like that was one. I was really having fun in that game, so I thought, it's kind of a shame you didn't have access to that. They come up. They come up like maybe five one every three levels or something. Yeah, that game. So I'm

glad you jump back in. Yeah, I'll probably finish that now. But did you get up to the space marine and the chaos stuff. I know I'm about to get to that though. It actually changes I met the dude okay, yeah, okay, yeah, because it because it goes from dude in the tower or the dude with the super weapon or whatever. Yeah, I think I left off right before that. You're pretty close to the end of the game. Then it's a short game. It can't be that short.

It's short. It's pretty sure what you after? Are you on? I had like eight eight The kind of stuff is only about two levels, two or three levels. But the combat changes a bit. Okay, whatever. I met the guy who's clearly going to become the evil guy at some point. I'm like, you're even for an imperial. Yeah. It was an inquisitor, isn't it. Yeah, Yeah, well he looks evil. He's an inquisitor. He's called an inquisitor and also he has exposed metal on

his face or whatever. Yeah, yeah, Ordos Zenos Dude. That's my favorite thing about all that stuff is like the Latin the sound like yeah, like I don't know what the adeptos started are, but it sounds I know it is. But like it's like when they talk about the Codex. I also like the stuff that the Codex talks about about, like you know, not whatever, not you know, jumping into not using jet packs to jump

into a battle or whatever. Like that's kind of weirdly specific things for like this religious this supposedly religious text to uh, it's it is interesting kind of going back and some of the fiction leading up to it. It we hammer stuff is actually kind of interesting. And they talk about just like, oh, you interpret the Codex so narrowly. It's just like I think the Ultramarines are the ones who wrote the Codex after the Horace heresy. So I think

you are an ultramarine, aren't you? You are an ultramarine? You are? Yeah. I just really like not having to hide behind barricades. That was the big wins in that series. That was it. You said the weight I just love that. Wait, I love everything waste. Everyone is tough, relictis shoulder pads very well. Yeah. But more than that, I played a whole lot of Miss pac Man because I got a Miss pac Man machine. What did I did? I did? Who's yeah? My

my girlfriend? It basically one Christmas forever. Yeah, just whipped my ass at Christmas because I was broken shit, so I didn't get a ton of stuff. And then comes around and here is a full size Miss pac Man cabinet stand up, stand up, wow and lean crazy clean. You actually got to come up and see it because I will again shout out to mister Steve Lynn because like early early on, like months and months ago, girlfriend asks like, Hey, what do you want for Christmas? And I'm like,

I don't know, Like a fucking Miss pac Man machine. That would be cool. That would be that would be a cool thing that I wouldn't buy for myself because it would be crazy. And she started looking at it. She's like, I don't know if I could do that because I'm looking on like Craigslist, and I'm like, okay, don't first off and stop, don't do that. I'm you know, I'm gonna kind of point you in the direction of this dude, and you know, walk away, I

will walk away. I will turn away from that. And I've like I did that. I completely forgotten about it. I figured that it was it was dead in the water. But my girlfriend teamed up with the with Steve. Where you put it. It's right in the middle, like middle of the living room, just like you walk in. It is against the wall. That's all the way, not all the way. Middle is answerous business and lady, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly it was. And I guess

she got a screaming deal on ap parry. There are collectors out there that are pissed that I have this thing, because there was there was interest in this and uh, and some negotiations happened. I don't know. I don't know the exact story. No one will tell me, Joy, no one. No one would tell me about that. But how was it wrapped? No, the head a bow on it because Steve, because I had to

coordinate with Steve because he had to come. And Okay, it wasn't like in your house waiting for you, No, no, no, no, it was it was like she told me, And it's like, all right, that's because she had been telling me before, like, hey, you need to be home one day this next week? What day works best for you? Okay, ask you guys questions. Okay, So let's say you sell something on Craigsis. So I was the seller in this case and I sold a desk and then person comes with like a Jetta to pick up a

desk. Yeah, what do you do? Do? You say? What are you How are you going to get this out of here? Yeah that's what I said, yeah, and say They're like, oh no, it'll fit it. And like I'm like what, Yeah, there's no way that's going in there. And then so I leave, I get the money. Yeah, wait, what did you do with the desk? I was giving them the desk. I sold the desk to them. Where where was it? Not in your apartment or house? It was. I had taken it

down to the street so they could easily put it in this jetta. So you got the money and walked away. Yeah. So I was like, yeah, any help or something? And I was like and I was like, there's no way they're fitting that in that in that car. Yeah, And of course they don't. And it's like thirty minutes in and you can hear like boyfriend girlfriend and yelling at each other. So what do you do? And you own a truck? You say, hey, guys, is

there something I could do? What if they live in Santa Rosa as far? Is that two or three hours from me from you, depending on traffic? Our fifteen you. I think what you say is like, hey, guys, like, uh, we neither rent a truck. I can give you a lift down there and like end it like that the dot dot dot and then hopefully they'll be drove that I drove to Santa drove to Santa give me more money. No, that's weird. It was you wouldn't ask.

She was like nineteen or so, ask but didn't offer. It's really excited about the desk with the boyfriend. Did you make this? Her sit in this truck with you? And the boyfriend drove they there. I followed behind them. She d like forty five miles an hour. Made that trip take extra worse. Oh it was terrible. I don't get on money. Let's how can we make this work? I feel like, well, I have to. I have to sell a bed and a frame, so I'm gonna

have some Craigslist adventures. I had to get rid of that TV, that giant TV, and that kind of similar thing happened to me. I was explicit in the email, but I always I always am about that of like, hey, this is four hundred pounds, bring a big car, bringing whatever, and I still have to carry that TV down because the guys who became couldn't carry it. So I don't know, you'd be a nice guy. You're a nice guy, yeah, guy, Yeah, I think they're

just have gotten rid of it over extend. And that's why you do for Craigslist, right, because you're like, I don't care, it's two dollars, just take this off my hands. I don't want to deal with it, Like I don't. I'm like, best fastest offer gets it. I don't care. It's just I have a giant thing. I need to get rid of it. And it sucks when you wind up being like I still have to deal with this. Yeah, I'm trying to give this away for free so I don't have to deal with this. Yeah, it sucks.

But I had a uh my roommate when I lived in San Francisco had this like similar like you know, three hundred pound giant old like you know, municipal desk that was impossible to move, Like we could barely fit it out of the apartment door, and for free. You couldn't get rid of that

fucking thing. Yeah, like the head of the board of education behind Oh yeah, it had like you know the wood, like the wood paneled surface, but then like you know, metal drawers underneth It was just you know, you could shoot fucking tank bullets out at least when you know, yeah, that's the thing that's gonna drop through the floor immediately and crush the person underneath. That will form. Yeah, it's gonna start the triangle from above

what you'd be a nice guy. Yeah, I'm sure they were nice people, right, they were. They were all right. It shows up with like a small car for a desk. I just have to wonder a little did you put the dimensions or picture one dimensions and pictures? I was like, it's a desk with the jets. What were you thinking? Yeah, you can put the Jetta in the desk and then you guys can figure out how to get that on. It was just so dumb that I felt like

I was scared a little bit. Oh, like she's gonna start crying on your lawn. Well, no, I mean they said out there for they gave us some money and let me walk away. They're eating dinner, like listening to people, like arguing, and you came back outside. They never came back there. I came back outside. What do you think would have happened. I think it probably would. They would have had to rent a truck or something maybe, or maybe they would have or something like, hey,

well, that's right. The girl was trying to trade hip hop dance lessons to one of her friends to come pick it up, and then you declined it's Santa Rosa. No right now at a moment like would you show me a move? I want to know I'm getting it first. Lesson here, let's go on the streets. If you can't hip hop dance on the street, you can't and hip hop dance anywhere. What good are you prove yourself. I want to give this away to one of our users. Three

hugs. I'm more amazed you got your machine shipped to you. That always seems like the biggest hassle in getting in arcades. Part of the part of the deal, that's part of the gift was amazing and and Steve and Steve got what that coy quarters. Did you drop in? Oh, I it's I don't have it set to free play. I am it is quarter operated.

I'm actually thinking about getting token coin mesh so that I can get So there's uh like one, I can't remember which one, but I think I actually have a Flynn's Arcade at Disneyland right now, and they use tokens that say Flynn's Arcade on them and they yeah, yeah, yeah, they look fucking radical. I want to change the coin mes to operate on that, but right now it's just on Quarters because the the attract screen doesn't play when you have it on free play. It's just just flashes the maze, So

I want the full attract thing. It's fun putting charters in, yeah, the cluck here to hit the bucket, and then when you run out of quarters, you gotta act like the arcade to operator and pull out keys. I keep my arcade keys on my regular keys chains, get the keys out. Feel it feels authentic, but god damn it is it in good crazy crazy good shape. The so uh sides are original, like original, like

it's got that spray painted uh you know, stencil. To look to it, you can see a little bit of like overspray on on certain elements of it. You can also see a little bit of like handwear kind of like you know, where you'd stand up and you'd put your hand up on the side or kind of down near because you know, it's just a joystick game. The other one for pizza the other hand is your your off hand is free. Uh so it's got a little bit aware there, but not too

much. The coolest feature on the cabinet for me though, is the like the top of the machine itself, like you have to kind of you have to either be tall or kind of get up and around the back and look at it. You could tell that it was originally supposed to be the side to a Sinistar cabinet because it has like the first pass of a Sinistar like on the top. But like it got Boston, They're like, ah fuck, it just used that piece of wood, cut it this way and put

it on the top. So you can like how you can tell like, no, this is the original dam cabinet. There's some some stuff has obviously been been reprode for the like front panel stuff like that would have been worn away. You can also tell because it has the Namco copyright on it, which Miss pac Man was not a Namco game. Miss pac Man was originally a pirate ass bootleg ass, even the all their kid machines. So I did a little bit of research about this. I didn't know the full story.

I knew that it was basically, you know, Midway was the US licensor of pac Man from Namco. So Midway was making all their crazy pac Man bucks when that stuff was happening here in the States, and so they were you know, Jones and for a follow up from from Namco and weren't getting one. Meanwhile, there's this other company, I Galactic Galaxy, I

can't remember the name of a global communication coin up something. Uh that they had been making bootleg upgrade kits for other cabinets, like they had made you saw some of this at California Extreme like Supermissile Attack. Yeah, so that so that stuff, those were basically like upgrade kits made by people that were not the copyright holders, and they were so it's like this game isn't Missile Command, but it basically is Missile Command. So that's how they had started.

And so they had done or Supermissile Attack and it started making conversion kit for pac Man that was called Crazy Auto, so it would be like, you know, same basic ideas pac Man, but none of the same sprits, none of the same assets. And they had just made a deal with with Atari saying all right, Atari is not going to see you into oblivion, but you have to stop making these bootleg you know, these these non licensed upgrade kits. So like, well, we already started work on Crazy

Auto. We can't do anything with it. They go and show it to Midway. Midway was like, great, give us that, we're going to turn that into a new pac Man game and put it out there. And so they bought this thing from from these guys who had been working on on Crazy Auto, turned it into Miss pac Man and shipped it and recognized it is the best pac Man. So yeah, it's great. It's fucking awesome.

Jokes aside. The difference is there's there's a few there's well, so well there's always fruit fruit fruit moves in Miss pac Man moves and then so ghosts. Uh no, so fruit would in pac Man stays in one spot on the maze. In Miss pac Man, it just moves around the maze and in a pattern. The same number of ghosts, but the uh, but one of them becomes Sue. It goes from Clyde to see. There's a story there is there's a little story of how pac Man and Miss pac

Man meet and and come together that's played in the act breaks. I think there's more mazes. I believe there's different mazes. There's different mazes, and I believe more mazes, and there's three or maybe four mazes. I don't know about speed. But ghost behavior is much improved. That's like really the big thing that that separates is there is some randomness that's been added to the to the ghosts. You can't just run your pack, can't just run straight

patterns like you have to be. It's all about grouping. And there's still like, you know, kind of specific behavior concerning the like how ghosts act. Right, but you can I can't ask a super pac Man or Miss pac Man player where Clyde's going to be at two twenty five into this maze because it might be different, right, Okay, exactly. Uh So let's so there's those differences. There might be some other stuff, but like those are the main ones. Also, she has a bone her head. Thanks,

I had to get that in there. Yeah, well she does. It's true. So I'm currently posting I don't want to hear about you anymore. This is crazy, just destroyed anybody else's Christmas. It's great. I just like to leave it for yourself. Yeah. Yeah, So it's kind of the bummer is that it. It does not retain any high scoring from it. There's no leaderboard, there's no putting in your initials. It's just a battery. It's just high score. No, it's just when you turn

off the chalkboards. Battery never had that. No, it's just it does not retain it really, really, there's no sure, there's just no I mean, I don't know for sure that some operators just like leave it on all the time. Yeah, they were just yeah, that stuff was just never turned it off. Also, the monitors super fucking clean. That's maybe the biggest I know, I know. And also the inside. I posted

a picture online. I shud show them to you the inside of the because when we first got in, I'm all right, I just want to see just so I'm a little bit familiar with the back. Let's pomp it open and see where everything is. So I know, like this is the main board, there's the edge connector, if things go weird or there's where the you know, rhms are and if you want to We've been lucky with our kids. Definitely Warlords. Everybody's still playing that. Yeah, Warlords is still

good. Misspack that is oh okay, okay. Maybe it was too early before the battery kits. I don't know, it might be. I don't mind. I'm just gonna get like a little white board and we're just gonna that's where you post yours system. Uh well, right now, my my best is around thirty three thousand, which I feel totally okay about. I can, I can do better. I can. I want to see more. I still haven't gotten when do you start putting a cellphane and marker on

top of the screen. She has things I don't think. I don't think that that works, and I don't I don't want to deconstruct Miss pac Man too much. Enjoy it. Yeah, I'm still just sort of enjoy it, like all right. I have my strategies and I understand things, and I've I've passed this information along to to the girlfriend. And she plays more Miss pac Man than I do, and she curses like a sailor. She deserves it. She she oh, yeah, No, I'm not saying play.

I'm not saying no, she shouldn't play it. Also, she goes through her games a lot more quickly than I do, so she can in the same in the same time that she can play like two games. I'll play like one game for now. She still does. She's still like her best I think it was like twenty five thousand, so she's not too far off myst But yeah, it's all about just score maximization of getting both fruit, getting as many ghosts as you can per blue time. Yeah, it's

yeah, I love love that gift. God bless you girl, thank you for the best Christmas present ever. So yeah, but that's mostly what I was playing. I just get up every once in a while and I could go throw some quarters. Marquis is super clean, like all original stuff there. I had to go buy a bulb before the Marquis and I had to go buy like a security bit set so I could get into the the Marquis space. But other than that, it's uprights. Yeah, man, I

know, I know, you know, but this between everybody. There's a few arcade machines in the possession of Whisked, A couple a couple. I'm surprised this is took me this long for this to be my my first No, you had you had a half a Xenophobe. Yeah, I own half an the Xenophobe machine somewhere there was no and street Fighter. Street Fighter is just in betch And again it's yeah, who knew the TVs that was going

to be the thing? Yeah, because everything else on my machine is like, yeah, that's it's actually the thing that I'm most I'm happy about having a miss pac Man machine is how easy parts are for that thing, generally speaking. And you know, other than set, there's there's nothing exotic about what is on or in a Miss pac Man machine. You know, it's like this is a standard. You need a four way fucking joystick, right, you need one or two buttons just for you know, one player,

two player, go, and a monitor that works go. I have the original power supply in. It's like a hard to say because there's a lot of like there's stuff there. It's like that is original, just really well taken care of. There's some stuff like okay, clearly somebody's not like a switching power supply like a PC power supply. There's not a big gold hunka wire. It's far away from everything else, so I don't go down there.

Okay, I did have I did, and then I had my first like arcade owner panic attack of turned it on one morning, wouldn't play a game, you know, walked away, made it, was making tea or something, and came back and suddenly like red ghost was invisible and the colors

were slightly offer and I was like, oh fuck it. I'm like, oh goddamn, just one of the guns going out on the because my first thought is colors aren't coming incorrectly, one of the guns is going out on the monitor, and that is just your fucking nightmare scenario for arcade ownership. Kick uh No. I panicked, and I contacted Steve Lynn and what Steve, I don't know what should I any first tips And He's like, I just go poke some ROMs and reseat the edge connector and like, okay,

I know it's fine. I went and did that and powered backing up. I'm like, yeah, I win that arcade ownership. That's right. It's it's an age of when you can elbow the machine and it's suddenly work. You can fonzie that machine back into service. That's kind of the fun thing about arcade machines is like it's not working. I'm blowing it. I don't

know or you know. I found in the process of trying to figure out what was up with the monitor, I found the like the monitor control panel, which has just like those weird little knobs on it, and it's that's like some real analog control that you have over the vision of the signal. I'm like, oh, let's tweet this a little bit, like meet that

a little more. Oh wait, or it's like it's it's in a weird position where it's just kind of like hanging in the middle of the cabin, like you open up the coin door, and it's just kind of like clearly it was supposed to be adhered to the wall, but that's that stickiness gave up years ago, and so it's hanging there. And every time I touch it while it's hanging, the monitor just kind of freaks out and just spazz all over the place. All right, Well, I gotta get in there

and you know, just stuff. And then when I get my hands off of it, just leave it in just the right spot so that it doesn't wiggle too much, and and everything stays good. Can I get to take this sought after collector's out of miss packman machine and gut it and turn it into a sixty four button main machine, like yeah, great, oh perfect, This is exactly what I mean. Sticks on it. I put a

racing wheel on there. It's got seventy seventy poured down here. If you just want to plug in the three sixty controller, I don't know, just in case you know, I don't know, there's a tardy sticks on it, paddles what else we got on there. It's just not the point of buying a damn at well, especially not like an original. That was always the thing too, and they had the raffles of California extreme. It would always be like a perfect pinball machine or like in you're like that pinball machine

is like a three thousand dollars one of the rings like stern handmade. Awesome. They don't get me wrong. I have nothing against like a main cabinet, like I build one myself if if I had the room. It's the taking things that will no longer ever be built like this, and people do it, which is crazy. Yeah, that's so mean, that's congratulations. Yeah no, and it will be cherished in my house. Welcome now. I sometimes just go and sit and look at it. I got a couch

that's right across from sit there and oh yeah, oh yeah. The glow is nice. Yeah, the light from a misspac Man Marquis was all pink and yellow. It's it's inviting. She does have a bow. I played Vanquish and that was my did you what do you think? It's kind of like a two year old game at this point. Yeah, it's bosses are hard, it's dumb. It's kind of hard. Also, forgot I'd put dark Souls on my list. Yeah, you would, It's good. I'd put dark Souls. Give me dark Souls in the sky room World, give

me a jet back in game. I'm sure if you get the PC version, I'm sure it'll be there. Somebody will put a second Did any any any news happen? You want to talk about news? I picked three news breaking news. We're just getting here in the jump on news room, I'd cut open with my leatherman, a three sixty controller chord and resoddered wires. By the way, you guys freaked me the hell out with that lock pit, that lock pick uh kit, that you put on a right computer.

Oh you left it on his desk, Yeah, I thought, because we've had like stuff disappearing and I was like, no, I thought somebody had was like left that there, and I was like, super conspicuous spot right on top of your whoever's doing it, it's like some master thief with a leather lockpit. Like whoever's coming into like swipe stuff from the office is like I am a massage. Yeah, but it's like you play so much video give if you think that that's actually possible around, Yeah, you can't get

in here with the old fashioned locks electronic. That's why I thought it was awesome because I was like, oh, we have a master thief. So funny somebody from the guild has come in here. I was. I was so weird. Freaked me out. That was a weird package. That was thanks to that guy, though there was Yeah, figured out what we'll get, figured out a way to give away the other Eisenhorne book, that copy of I don't know. I've got a ton of stuff we need to give

away. Oh yeah, we should gather up for the new year. Yeah, clean it out. I've got a ton of T shirts that I I really want to give away, but I thought that was weird. What's that T shirts? It's fine to give away, that's if I warned them before. I don't care. Okay, people love that shit, like just like video game too. I mean, I guess unless you're I mean, unless you're unless you're afraid of I've warned them, people making voodoo dolls out of them. I'm saying, I've worn them. I get it. Yeah,

I know some people might want that. That's what I'm saying is as long as you're okay with like finding my DNA, as long as you're okay with that being the appeal to some people. I didn't want them that much because I don't really wear anything that has like prints on it so much. But like prints, as long as you're afraid that, you know, you're you're not afraid of people like going to sleep with them, that's fine. Uh,

bring him in. I got boxed at. I don't know. Room for them, No more room room for anything, No, no room for stuff. Do you want this biod Commando T shirt? Nor? No, you don't want it? No? Why not? No? Get that away from me. I don't need any more black elves. It wasn't really anyone. Yes, it was it was happened? Was that there was that christophero stuff with the Avenger. I guess that's that's kind of blown over at this point. I feel one guy was a dicky on the Internet, and then

a bunch of people were dicks on the Internet. Now everybody's a dick on the internet. On the Internet Internet. That's a bold step. That's a tough one. Yeah, just let the earthquake do it for You can't get rid of that hose just yet. Yeah, stuff doesn't happen. How's the do you guys know how the the PSP is doing? The new Uh? Not so? Yeah? That came out the great not great. It did okay the first week, and then the second week the old PSP beat it

in sales. Wow, I wonder because it's as did the three DS and PS three and some stuff. I don't know. Looking kind of iffy. It's March here February. Wait is it March? God? I totally forgot. I think it's I think it's sooner than it's February. It's it's late February. It's twenty second or something. Soon. We'll see, we will see. Yeah, that's that's news breaking all I got for news man. Man, if you think there were some news, you want to talk about

some new really new releases, Yeah, fuck you? Why that's no, those are the new releases. Finally find that on the on the DS store for yourself. No, that's yeah, exactly, go fuck yourself. Then sequel hot follow up DLC Fuck You is now available only on the three DS E shop, so spin out on pack. To my knowledge, we have perused digital and physical. You just can't find anything. Retailers not coming out this week. When did Postal not come out? That did not come out

last year? And that was like and it's still not out now, okay, So technically what's up this week with downloadable stuff? Oh? I believe Blitz. It looks like NFL Blitz might be out, but but I'm not. My understanding is Blitz is out, okay, and we'll probably we'll probably even do a T and T with that next week when Jeff is back. But we can't cover that game without Jeff. No, no, no one here literally cannot do it. It's like it's like you have one of the

best Blitz players in the world. We're not gonna move it. Yeah, we're not gonna sit here and try and come of the game while he's not here. Do that with other stuff. Yeah, and that with postal three. Look for that that games. Shit, it's up now, not watch it's not now, it's not just goes up before then it's tuesday. Oh that's right, Yeah, that's going up tomorrow. Yeah, you look for that tomorrow actually or whatever. It's it's garbage. It's it's that game.

That game. It wasn't even a good time, you know, like some people. No, at least that's yeah. Sometimes it's a bad game. You have a good time doing it. Yeah, I didn't have it. I don't even have a good Yeah. Yeah, it's just disappointing. No, it wasn't it wasn't great. So Blitz maybe this week. I think I think that's I think that's correct. I think that's actually that's actually for real. But otherwise, Wasteland, all those twenty eleven games plenty to play

are bullshit now because it's twenty twelve. You can't play those anymore. It's your old man games catch on fire if you try to play him, doesn't work anymore. I'm gonna fall into an MMO hole. I know what I can do. Let's do it, roll on mine trick. I don't want Imperial side I need. I didn't make sure quest I get on my mind trick before this goes up, before it's flooded with more people. It's already ferry full. It is. I need people to play with or I'm not

gonna play it anymore. Like it's is the way to go. I'll come on, try Imperial. All right, let's do it. Oh yeah, Imperial seems to be where where the party is at? Okay and where the cards at? All right, let's let's take this home with with some emails. Really yeah, bobcast at johnbod dot com. First email comes in from

Greg Hey bomb squad. Just before Christmas. I had to go into the hospital to get my appendix out, and with the result that I spent the last week before Christmas trapped on the couch with only my three sixty four company. On one of these days, I was watching Scrooge to pass the time.

Good call, and when it ended it did not want to have to get go through the five minute post surgical standing up ritual to change the discs, so I picked up my controller and three button clicks later, was playing Bastion as late this generation as it may be, this was one of the first times I actually felt like I was playing on the cool futuristic consoles that

we imagined many years ago. This got me thinking, what is or was there ever a moment in this or any other generation where he actually felt next generation? When the connect voice stuff worked, Yeah, that felt cool. It's like, oh, this is kind of the future here, right. And then after that when nothing was integrated Sega CD, That's definitely I felt like the future. I thought I was playing the future video. The first time you saw like live action video in your game is going on? Yeah,

blew my mind. It was worth it washing all those cars that entire summer in Gaithersburg, Maryland. That's a hot summer. That's a hot summer hot. That thing was like three hundred bucks. It took all summer for me to save up to play Sewer Shorts. Right, did you have a Hello? Did you have Yeah? I'm sitting here thinking about it. I guess for this generation, I guess it's the same same thing as this guy.

Just like the immediacy that you can access new games now, Like like last month, I was home with some stomach flu or food poisoning or whatever it was. Was this the same day of the Trying two came out right, and just like I'm gonna play in between instances of throwing up. I was like, Trying two's out. I can click play four buttons on my computer and it's downloading, and my internet so fast enough that even though it's like three and a half gig or whatever, like it will be here in

five minutes, ten minutes. Fascinating. It's like the speed, the speed of the internet, in the in the ease of the purchase process and all that stuff that still kind of amazes me. Yeah, I was like, I didn't have to leave the house. I feel like absolute dogshit, but I can still access this cool new game that just came out like an hour ago. When I remember my first like original PlayStation experience, that was pretty

that felt pretty fucking futuristic. Yeah, I thought the st first. The first time I saw that dinosaur demo in Circuit Cities, Uh, I was just like holy for me. It was like I went with a friend and we like rented one from the local video store and just got like a handful of whatever random games like Ridge Racer No Rage Racer and uh and like the ESPN Extreme Sports Game whatever that compilation was called, and just the idea of like you can play this game or you can just listen to the fucking c

audio soundtrack for it. Like what the fuck? I could just listen to listen to the soundtrack, it's actual instruments. Like that was enough, Like just blew my fucking mind. Uh yes, I guess from from then you're saying SNSs. It was just a super Mario world just was just crazy. I remember putting that in and feeling like, I mean, I was a little kid, but like that was magical. That was magical. It was

maybe more magical than like technology industry. I was just like I'm in a bubble, like like I'm in like a joy bubble here, like don't burst it. Like a really raw technical example for me was in Quake first one.

Yeah, like looking down at a guy after I'd killed him, like like corpse on the ground, like looking down at the mouse and then turry off mouse looks so I could move back and forth and just like slowly panting my view around this guy and like I'm looking this guy from like every angle and I can see him from the side and now from the front, Like just having three D characters and games was completely mind blow Getting a Voodoo card

and looking through the water so open gl was a pretty it was a pretty technical like the quick It was crazy because you just went from like it was all the same stuff that you had. It just went from just like right now, we support your hardware directly, and so we can we can look at the magic ship. We can make this machine do now it's not all

grainy and big giant chunky particles everywhere hugely. If I don't think that could I don't even know if that could happen again where you're just like replace this one part and like it's like you have a new game, and it's like wow, holy crap, like like software drivers versus hardware drivers, or like you can't even tell that, like barely noticeable is the same game that was firing shots from like whatever gun you have. Oh yeah, yeah, that

stuff was great. God, I've definitely had, you know, like arcade moments like that as well. You know, the first time that I saw a Neo Geo cabinet in the world after after watching the game Pro TV special about Video Geo, like Ninja Combat and Super spot just like laying out.

We're just laying out the like so I had I had watched this thing this you know, the game pro TV thing about in the aga before I'd ever seen one, and it was laying out like Okay, there's this home system, right and it's fucking crazy expensive and Scott these Janet cards and whatever. But then there's also the arcade machine and it's the exact sit. It's not slightly it's not like I no, it's the exact same game in both locations.

Like what I'm talking about. You were saying, check this out, though you can play it at home, take this card out, put it in the machine at the arcade, keep progress what that's what? Why would you ever care? Retrospective? But you know it was but that sounded so cool. Tell that to the man who just put a white board next to as miss pack. I think we know why. That sounded so fucking cool.

And just like you know, first time I saw MK after like buddies came home from the arcade, Like, dude, there was this new game in the arcade. You have to see this fucking game. It's like street Fighter but way crazy. I remember like when they when they were describing what was happening in Mortal Kombat. I'm like, you guys are liars and you're just making Yeah, that sounds like something that people would just live, like you're just making this game up. Like no dudes, like guys explode and

they all look like real dudes and like like guy's head off. Virtual Racer was like that too. I remember that even before, like Virtual Fighter where it's just like three D. Yeah, where you were sitting in that cockpit and it was like three D, and I remember I had that bridge moment where it like pulls back and you're like, oh my god, it's it's a weird relative thing. Like you can't look at that stuff now and think it was like wow, this is mind blowing. But when you're like first

seeing like polygons move on screen, you're like, this looks amazing. This is magic and voodoo in here, and then kind of look at it and you're like, ah, these graphics are all right. Uncharted three is pretty good looking, but it's like I was blown away by a six sided dude fighting. It was this, you know, it was this monumental leap.

It was just this. You had no standards to judge it by because everything else that you had seen was flat two D, you know, sprite based stuff or that you even control directly controlling it because you had scene on three D was like on the lawnmower Man or like you know, like you can't control that. That took like seven hours and there's a special on PBS about

how long it took under each frame or whatever. The that means revolutionary and like seventeen giant gray computers are doing this one scene that looks terrible, and you're like, now, it's like I can directly punch this guy and then do a split his face explodes. It's awesome. It was pretty awesome magical video games. What a little lifetime of memories. Yeah, hopefully that yes

of punching dudes kung fu. I punched that dude and flew off the screen on the SNST final fight, I was punching dudes and children punching that dude. That was pretty good. My's here on my sixty four k out. Even Mario could punch dudes. That's right, Mario punching bombas in the face. Clay fighters are punching some dude, punching some dudes. I got my

I got my PlayStation. How was that punching dudes in my PlayStation? Yeah, Tech, I was punching some fucking dudes and some Tech PlayStation two you're tagging and punching dudes, and I didn't like take a tag. Oh you skip that one, no, no, but still everything was punches. You got Halo and you're punching your whatever. It's fucking grand theft auto. I'm punching dudes all over the place and that, and how about your virtual boys? You punched dude that I did not ever own a virtual boy? Really

did you ever played one? Yeah? Okay, I didn't own either. My cousin. That did not qualify as one of those moments that was that was like, well, this is kind of this sucks. Joey, who bought you? The thing is red and black and my head hurts. Punched dudes and Demolition Man on my three d Yes, yes, we gotta get that in here. At something that's that after what I might have redefined great with demolition bleat those prison pants, he swearing says, bleat vertical stripes.

Dude looks like a clown. Dude, just the fucking the specifically recorded FMB sequences with Sylvester Stallone doing fucking jungle roles on a green screen are amazing. Whole I don't want you know what. I'm not gonna talk about it anymore because we need to hunt down a copy of Devilish three D. We do

it. We're gonna be on here. Jeff doesn't know his three dio work, so you guys will be doing that, and on the other set, me and Jeff will be running a Way of the Warrior scrug league, because holy shit, Way of the Warrior is an incredible game, you know, kind of like that the the multi media era. For me, there's just a ton futuristic feeling moments CD I remember, oh yeah, I don't know if we were we were just talking about we were just talking about what was

the thing is? It just it didn't really ever pan out, but it was just when you looked at it and you sat down with it, you're like, this feels like the fucking future. It's it's the connect all over again. It's the same thing of like you standing like, wow, that's crazy, I've never seen anything like that, and then you kind of dig into you're like, well, this isn't that great? It was? I

mean, what the Jurassic Park of video game medium. For me, it was it was it was the like they were too busy being excited about the fact that they could that they never stopped thinking they should. That's true. They were definitely overdone it. It just always felt like that's the rich kids had that, like, oh my god, he's got a three do? We should do you want to go over to your house, Dave's house, And I'm mean, your best friend man three dio? I love. I

always like this, Dave. Dave's a cool guy. My actual best friend got a three dio, so I didn't have to feel bad about it befriending somebody for already was and he's just happened to get one. My cousin got a three do and they were definitely like, wow, three d But was it the seven hundred dollars Panasonic three dio or was it the lower priced gold Star three Dyo. I think it was. I think I think it was the cheaper one. But my friend, the original Panasonic was the motorized drive

and everything. I don't think it was this. I can't even remember what she didn't only had like three games? How about this drive? Caddies? Oh god, Yeah, drive caddies, little caddy that you gotta put the disk into before you put it into the drive. It's not a tray that pops out. It's almost case that goes on there. Yeah. Shove this jewel case with a CD in it into actively turning the CD into a floppy. Yeah, all right, I think we've we've exhausted that topic. We

had lots of magical times. It doesn't even it can feel like the future without being there every time. It always feels like the future. Tape cole position on a cassette. The first time that I played a both a PC game and a console game online on the internet. Uh, the first time I played a piece of game direct dialing someone else. Yeah, yeah, playing like one on one Doom and Warcraft two over over the phone against somebody.

Yeah, that felt completely magical as as as anticated as it can possibly be right now, or like offensive, like just the idea of playing a game against somebody that was not in the same house and heartbreaking when your parents would pick up the phone. Yeah. My friends and I used to work with each other, and you you'd pick up the phone at their house when they're on on the BBS or wherever and just scream air into the phone and

watches their their client fills up with garbage for a second. Fuck. It was also the shittiest way to get caught playing a game when you're like, it's like one in the morning, and then like it would bring, it would always ring, somebody would pick up the phone. Yeah, you have to be like fuck, and then somebody would be like your connection would go out, and you just knew you were fucked because it was like and then the fucking go Now, I wake up in two hours, are getting traffic,

and you're fucking go to sleep. You're fucking dead. You're dead tomorrow. But these days you get to hear it all over the microphone that the kid has, right, you get to hear that the parental heard that. Yeah, thankfully it was just you just all right. This next email comes in from Rusty Jamar in Odessa, Texas. Rusty rights in to say, is it me or does this Steve Jobs action figure look like Vinny? I think it kind of does. There's a Steve Jobs action figure. Let's let's

do a comparison. Here. I'm gonna hold this iPad up to Vinnie's face. That's the one on the Yeah, the one on the left hand. Why did you make a Steve Jobs action figure? Because I don't know? National Hero? Why does anyone do anything? I don't know, because someone will buy a Steve Jobs action figure? What do you guys think? It looks like Steve Jobs mixed with Yes, you have to give him some glasses,

a gray yup, a bunch. There's there's a slight resemblance. If you had to post this, champ, would you want an older Steve or young Steve? I want mustache Steve. That's my favorite Steve. Yeah, yeah, shaggy, but not not super shaggy. I like like, I like corduroy business Jack. He's just like I like Noah wild Steve Jobs.

Like that's that's the one that I like. Have you ever seen the video where it was like a Macworld or some similar conference, Like he went like they had Noah Y come out instead of Steve Jobs and start doing the presentation and then like the real Steve Jobs like walked out behind people. I didn't get it for a while, So thank you, Rusty. I know, all right, it's a good company. This next email comes in from Sean Koont's all right, Sean asked me what the email was. I had no

idea. I thought he was looking up something like you know what is it? Skyrim just killed my poor three sixty with new consoles just around the corner twenty thirteen ish, would you recommend buying another Xbox or building a new PC and hooking it up to my TV? Mmmm? Well, like I think

they're they're much different investment levels. If you're building a new PC from scratch, even if you aren't going to go crazy over the top, you're gonna have to spend more than you know, two or three hundred bucks to to get something good. You do. You can't break that wall, Dave. He's got to listen to his answer. Yeah, No, he doesn't dude though, No, don't care if he's just outside there. We got to record it first, silly, put it up on the site, then he

can get to this point in the podcast. I'm sure he'd prefer it now you've alerted him. No, he doesn't hear anything past his techno years. He's playing back game and over there, what's going on? See now, when he listens to this, it's gonna be a lot weirder, going to know that we were looking at him talking about him, but hutting his playing four games several hours later. I can't tell what's going on over there, not to like retrace a step like fun, what was I doing? No,

you were looking at? Tell you what you're looking at right now? Yeah, I think it's it's a different investment. It is if he really wants to do it on the sheep, I would say, by one of those two hundred dollars xboxes. And because you can get the like the four gig on board no hard drive, if you can bust the hard drive out of your old one and stick, it will not even recover, like the

new one has a bare SATA connector inside it. So he'll literally just take that hard drive out of his old ones, right And even though there's a change in format, you're saying he won't necessarily need to buy new new hard drive. Yeah, yeah, you just have to be willing to crack open the old one. And you will spend a lot more than that on a

PC. Yeah, So it's it's a matter of investment. But that PC is gonna get cheaper games than cheaper games, And well, if you're if you're willing to wait it out a little bit on the Xbox they drop in the same way. But but if you're talking to day one, it's all so much cheaper, and and that PC will last yet, like that PC is gonna stay relevant at least for a few more years, a few more

years longer than uh probably that Xbox. And at this point those games will look better on that PC than they will as a long as support is reasonable than anything that's gonna come out in the three sixteen. The question is who is going to be Sean Coon's support buddy when he starts running into problems with its PC? Will Good call? Yeah, I also nominate Will Smith. So Sean, if you have any problems, go build a PC and and pick pick Will's brain, all that stuff. He's got all all that figured

out. Whatever, we'll make a future out of it something. So thanks for thanks for writing in sho though. You know what I'm gonna say, go through sixty because you probably won't get tricky on any sex. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's probably quick. I mean yeah, quick and easy. Solution is just gonna pick up another Xbox next thing you know. It

comes in from Joel in Washington, DC, District of Columbia. Dear Bomb Cast During the third day of award deliberations, Ryan stated that Drive three er or Driver three was the original offender for using the awkward three for an E game title. I may have did you mean it? This is incorrect? Uh. He believes that wipe Out three or Whip three out was the first to do this back in nineteen ninety nine. Unlike Driver three. However,

wipe Out three was an awesome game. I'll agree with that. Yeah, but like it made sense within the wipe out milieu, you know, like what is like the futuristic like that whole like Designer's Republic, like kind of European house. Sure, every futuristic everything. Sure it made sense, Like

Driver had no business putting at three in there. Yeah. I was so I read this email and I was trying to think of like, yeah, because I remember when wipe Out three came out and didn't care that they did that, and then remember when Driver three came out and it was a ship storm and it was like the worst thing ever. I'm trying to like parse out like why was that and is it because it fit or was it just

because like wipe Out three was a good enough game. That's like, ah, it's like it's dumb, but you don't really give a shit because this is still a pretty good wipeout game. Whereas with Driver, they were talking and like big mess about how fucking cool and gta killing their game was gonna be, and you just weren't seeing it. Anything you saw of the game just looked like trash. I don't know, just couldn't walk the walk with

a three. I guess an have the cool. We just seemed like like it was it was unearned affectation, you know, like, yeah, yeah, so Joel is correct. Wipe Out three, if if not necessarily the original offender is, at least is definitely an earlier example of that. Do do do do do? Do you know? We're gonna call it. We have a little shorty today. That's it. Yeah, holiday holiday returning, Yeah, we or whatever. He's into it. We're short a man here.

Yeah, I don't want to play Hammy or anything. That's it for emails. Thanks everyone who wrote in bomb cast dot com. Ask a question to the room, Hold on breaking news we have it's gonna relax one. Okay, what's up? What do you what do you guys? Well, sorry, what do you what are you playing right now? Like What do you this weekend? What do you go home and play Old Republic? Older

Republic. I'm gonna play that Space Pirates and Zombies game. Man Rory told me he put forty hours into that game in the span of like three days. About that. It's a it's like a move clone like Masters of a Rhyme four x yeah kind of. It's on Steam. It was on sale and I bought it, but I couldn't play because I was on a Mac the whole time. So kind I mean, I played The Bowl Republic. I gotta check it out. I've played pretty much every MMO. I feel like I need to get in there. I need to at least put in

the thirty hours to figure it out. Man, I'll, you know, discard it if it's no good. Hopefully I won't lose my Well, I'd love to come. I'd love to come and check back in with you after you have some time with it, just to hear your thoughts. Well, it sounds like Jeff's Yeah, but you have a much different MMO. Uh. Well, I can tell you whether or not that's been done before.

Yeah, sure, Well, you just like it's it's a different perspective and it's it's meaningfully so, so I and I value your opinion on this stuff. So I would love to hear what you have to say about it after some time with it. What are you yeah, you know, I've been playing super casual, Like I really didn't play. I got a bunch of time off during the break that I wasn't you know, family commitments or anything, just sitting around, and I just you know, it's good to take

a look. Just didn't want to play. I've still got that huge stack of stuff that I haven't finished. I'm just like, I just don't really want to get into anything huge, and and and and this. Like the thing with Old Republic is, you know it it's an MMO. So there is every time you go in, there's a certain amount of kind of wind up time percession of like you can't jump in for five minutes. Yeah, it's like, Okay, I'm gonna get in. And it's like, well,

I can maybe perform a leg of a quest. Like there's a certain like time commitment of like if I'm going to accomplish anything in this game, because by the time that you want to stop playing, you want to be back into CANTEENA gaining rest you want to have, you know, completed or at least made progress into a leg on a quest. So I've just never felt like I don't want to put the I'm not ready right now, I don't want to put the hours in that I need to, or I don't

want to commit to that right now. I highly recommend binding of Isaac. Then that's a great sit there for ten minutes. Put it down game. I've got other quickies. I've got more Raymand to play. I've got i gotta finish. That's what I'm going for. Space Man Spaceman thirty bucks on Amazon today. That's a deal. I want to play some more of that. What's the all right? Ask my last question? Okay, what do you what do you do? I'm gonna go, but Skyrim too, I'm

gonna finish all that. So that's it's gonna be a lot of time. The when is it hit? What? What? What kicks it off this year? Really? I don't know. Yeah, that January so good. I'm not even looking forward to that. And that's that's definitely. So we have a couple of games in January because it is mass effect January. Is that go March? So amlor Is February everywhere. Yeah, like there's not much going you're talking about just like when the next when do we have to

pay attention? I want to know when the next start. You get the surprise game that comes out in like January February, Like, oh, this game should be good, but it's not right around the court. But the first one was like that because the last two years, I think Space, I think the last two years ago. Last year's Capcom has been pretty early in the year with something nothing they had residuval. There's the new Silent Hill game coming out before the end of the month. There's Gotham City imposters.

Yeah, that's the month of January pretty so with that, I want to say, tune in for since there's nothing really going on here. Uh. Tested CS coverage begins next week. Yeah, they were rolling it up and blow it out, going down to Vegas, hardcore dealing my crew. You want to know about TVs and shit? Oh, I should say T ANDT. This week, we're gonna play a little Battlefield three. Oh returned to Carkin. Are we gonna have Are we gonna have Team Horn show up morn

end? Team Chan Norman Chan from Tested apparently lost his holiday break to Battlefield three, so he was chopping at the bit. I want to play more of that. Yeah, it's great. Answer the other question. Yeah, they never put much time into that. It's damned good. It's really so. We got about a month, right, another month to catch up on the back catalog. Yeah, you've probably got a good month, a month

of not a lot of huge races, so savorite. So everybody stay tuned to listen to Skyri more Skyri. Yeah, you guys like hearing about the games that we've been talking about. Dude, I want to hear about DLC for that game, but for Skyrian. Yeah, I'm curious. See when the start. They're not they're not doing the they said they're not doing like in a five or six ten dollars things like they did for Fallout. It'll

be more Oblivion style, like like one or two big expansions. Oh gays, we'll find out soon, pretty Caravella, thank you, thanks for coming back. Thank you twenty twelve. Thank you Dave Snyder. I missed you, guys. It's good to be back. Good to have you back in the house. Nice to have you on the podcast, checking in with you. You were a gentleman and Radio Dave this week. Yeah, I think we're gonna do it. We'll talk of we haven't done some stuff for a

while. We got a bunch of new subscribers. We did this last month. Welcome give him something. I gotta give them some. And I think we're gonna put up some behind the scenes stuff. Yeah, yeah, Dave, a bunch of stuff. Stuff during the Game of the Year, not not necessarily deliberations, but during the filming, some making of videos. I love behind the should be starting good. Brad Shoemaker, welcome back, and uh, that's gonna do it for the first Shiant bodcast of twenty twelve.

We'll be back next week with the second twenty twelve edition of the Giant Bomb, hopefully with shotguns. Why shotguns, because many wants a shotgun. Because the earthquakes. He's not gonna be all right. We'll talk about this later podcast