841: Fair Use Brad Garrett

Hey everybody, it's Tuesday. Welcome to the Giant BombCast powered by NDXT, Episode eight one hundred and forty one. Today is May twenty first, twenty twenty four. I am your host, Jan Achoa. Welcome to the Cinnamon Roll of video Game Podcast. That's right, We're warm, we're gooey, we're delectable, we're a little sweet treats that you feel a little bit guilty for indulging in. But hey, we're here, baby. We're here just

like the Aunty ANNs, and we're also the aunty Ands. We're also the Pretzels, a video game podcast joining me Pretzel Conna sour Jeff crub Barret Cortney says he's still sorry that his dog was mean to your dog. Jan. I had dinner with him last night, and uh, he still feels guilty his his dog wasn't mean. It's fine. Well, he still feels guilty about it. So that's I figured to start the podcast with that. We got the mad Dog video games media. Damn record, that's me. That's

what people have called me for a long time. Yes, yes, that that is that is your He's going right, exact thing. That's Benati whoa and that was our freaky little dude audio listeners, it's a little clay Mike Manatti. Yeah, it's basically the key the cake that we have, but just as like a little figure. So in sent I think, I think this is supposed to go to him. It was in our po box for our thing that we do. What did they do? They like three D

printed there it feels like printed or yeah. Yeah for those listening to the audio, it is a RoboCop head of Mike Manatti with feet sticking out like the famous cake from the Famous The Infamous. Yes, yeah, it's very Goomba adjacent. Yeah. I couldn't find it, and my kid comes to I think, I know what you're looking for. And then she comes back later, so I think she had put this in a Heidi hole somewhere. I love how your child knows where to find a RoboCop head of your friend.

Yes, And I was like, I'm looking. I'm just looking for a weird thing, is what I said. And I couldn't find it. Come down here. In a couple of minutes later, she's like, I think I know about a weird thing. I found the one weird thing in the house. Dan. Yeah, here it is at last, but not least, our own master of cakes. He's hiding in his Heidi hole and he's got he's it's littered with keyboards and baseball caps and whatever the Stanley Cup

Finals will look like. Jeff Beckler. Yeah, we don't know yet, but thank you for that intro, My buddy, Jan Good to be here, Happy to be here, Delighted to share the microphone with all of you. Can you imagine if we were trying to do this podcast with one microphone and we're just like, that's how we did the Beast Cast and she no, just like inching close to each other and something. I watched Challengers this weekend. Whoa talk about the microphone? That's Challengers. I'm just assuming that

that's a tennis sex movie, rights tennis movie? What do you mean tennis X guys? You knowles? What? Yeah? What is? What is it really for the tennis crowd? I think it's about tennis players that have sex with each other? Yeah, I mean is that that the trailer makes it look like, well, no one said that, but I think it might be. I mean it's like a love triangle kind of they play on

a rectangle. No, no, love triangle not the Oh so we're talking doubles m a little bit about the Adam Driver movie, right, Adam Driver made it? What about it? It looks it looks a net adjacent. Yes, it looks like the sci fi sequel to a Net. No, that thing that dinosaur movie he did, that's the site that's did Adam Driver did. Oh okay, okay, No, this is this trailer. I was watching that whole thing. I was like, what the I watched it very time. Yeah. People like out of its con right now right?

Yeah? Yeah, they haven't even announced like a wide release. Ye, I don't think. I feel like I don't think anyone's picked it up for wide release yet. That's a matter of let's screen it at SGF. I was gonna say, I feel like people are saying good things about it. People. People are saying things about it. They're saying like the one okay, the one anecdote I heard is so and it's like I went to the bathroom an hour in and I found a man just kind of hunkered over in

the hallway saying it's a nightmare that let's go. Let's go. Yes, I mean, you know, he's like eighty eight, and they're like letting him make movies because I think that's cool that he's paying it for here's a million of his own money. Yes, Daniel is like a hell shuit the way like Apocalypse Now and stuff was. So it's like, oh he's back. Here we go. I'm so glad this is happening. Like it's in a situation now where it's like you can't afford not to see it, right,

Yeah, you have to see it. And whereas Annette, I'd be fine not having seen it. No, No, I know what else is a must? You know what else is a mussy thing? Happening very very soon coming to perhaps the Bellevue Theater in Los Angeles, June ninth. Jeff Grub, what's happening June ninth at the bell Weather in Los Angeles. We're gonna do gb at Night Live. It'll be night three of our show. We're inviting you all to come out and get tickets, come see us.

It's gonna be everyone from Giant Bomb. I'll be hosting a handful of segments. We'll do some fun stuff. You should definitely pick up your tickets now because we've got some friends that are gonna come hang out with us. And including Iffy, a lot of Peers, Jason Schreyer, Patrick Kleppik, a whole bunch more. Honestly, I think I just saw you did that a re up to video showing that off. It looks great, but yeah, you should act. Now, get your tickets. They're going fast, so

definitely go pick those up. Yes, more guests to be announced e I P packages available, fun excitement giveaways. Tables because you're gonna have to sit at something. Oh no, it's a couch, muse say, tables, typo tape, tables because you know we you you'll maybe there will be a table on the back that you can rest a drink on. Okay, you're going to get the tables, that's what you're saying. Yeah, I'm going to get the tables. It's a tables match are our crew is going to

have to put the computer on something, and generally it's a table. I think it's a big deal for Mike Manatti. Yes, can I tell you that. I'll just let that phrase hang for a second, but I think it's a big deal for Mike Manatti to be mentioned in the same breath as people like Parasally, Ulepic and Alana Piers as much. But yeah, no, I think it's a big deal. I think it's a big deal for like someone to say Jason Schreier and then soon after say Mike Manatti as the

two games journalists about as if they occupy the same headspace. Hey, he's at a gaming business convention right now that his company runs and with our boss. Yeah, with the top of the yeah, seem like a bunch of kids in a suit trying to sneak into a business thing like that where he's at, Like when brain and you see like the monkey with the Sunday Yes, I think you Like if you were to like say one Disney thing his like the seven several dozen like mice that create his body would fall apart a

little bit. Yeah. I was looking at the picture he posted of just the weird selfie of him just like his head taking up the whole frame and he's got his business thing over a T shirt, and I was like analyzing it. I was like, you know, like enhancing this, and it's like does that do those letters say Mickey? Is this a Mickey shirt underneath his business thing? Mickey Mouse shirt? Because you have you guys, you guys, you don't you know Mikey as well as anyone. Mikey can never

go full business. That's that's why I'm more of an adult. In Minatti. When I was like officiating Maharty's wedding, I didn't have a D d P shirt on underneath my tucks. You know. Yeah, but you also seems very uncomfortable, so I don't think you can really talk. I think it was a rockets your shirt, which is okay. I mean you both lose points in being adults. Everyone knows that I can camouflage myself better than

he can. I don't know who's a better adult. Dan is right about this one, yes, because Mike doesn't care to camouflage himself, and so he's never really like LARP you LARP adults. Yeah, I could pretend to the best of them. No, I just got I got these two guys. So yeah, yeah, this, this whole freak will be there.

I'll bring him to there. Yeah. I was fel with so much pain putting Mike as the last name on that lineup because that's deliberate, Because no, because it gives he could think it's deliberate or he's like the with or the and but yeah, and with Mike Manatti. No, for sure, you guys are right, like in the titles where like you know, Hugh Grant is only in for like a cameo, but it says and Hugh Grant, like prospect his agent, like yeah got him the with the Executive Decision,

wants his own title. Let's see the Executive Decision thing where it's like they gave Sigall top billing even though he dies in like ten minutes. So let's just like top billing for the Schwarzenegger Batman Robin and just yeah, yeah, we oh oh that would be not bad, like Mike Manatti presents.

Uh huh no, we can't do that. We can't do that. We could have it like bootleg t shirts made that only so like sell it like actually, yes, you know what I encourage if you buy tickets to GB at night, I courage bootleg merch in the parking lot of course, all right during a scout, Yeah exactly, scalp tickets. Oh we should I have a tailgate, but LA doesn't really support tailgates at all? Is that true? I forgot, Let's book SOPI next year and then we can get

anyway. Yeah, easy, psy, easy, psy that's right there. How's everyone doing? How's everyone going? I'm in like, uh, the first complete week of creatine and my tongue you hurts so bad. I'm filled with so much water. Oh bad. Yeah, combined with the coffee bad. I understand how normal people feel now bad. Yeah, you tell you about I'm doing pretty good. It was like, uh, it was nice to I get out of the house and go have dinner with with Barrett yesterday.

That was nice gotten to meet him and his dad, Barrett Courtney from Kind of Funny. They're they're nice folks and we just like talk about games. We both ran a little bit of a victory lap where because we both got bilatro for very cheap in our Fantasy Critic league, and he got it because he was listening to this podcast. So hi, Barrett, You're welcome.

But yeah, it was like, okay, I need to I needed to like just get out of the house and reset and realize it's not all just like oh playing games constantly and then getting set up for summer game fast. So I'm like feeling pretty good now. We got a little bit of that that reset juice going. When you said you caught dinner with Barrett. I didn't assume at first that he had gone over to you, Grub. I thought you would come over to here, and I just went on there

and didn't. Yeah, I didn't see you. Yeah, it's like, what the fuck, rub, and you're back home already. Yeah, I know he's he's in tap for some family stuff. So yeah, yeah, it was cool, lovely, lovely. I don't think Barrett's dog was rude to Scout at all. It's fine, Barrett. No, don't trip, chocolate Chip. It's all good. Everyone else is okay. How's how's the gas boys, gas? I'm tape. I'm in the tapering now, so I only got like four days of gas left, so it's okay. A

withered husk. At the end of the week, I had real gas, like actual like shoot gas. Yeah, like you know gas stro gas. Yeah, Like, I don't week. It was weird for me. I don't know what was going on. I had, like I couldn't tell if it was like Tommy troubles or what was happening. If anyone I would believe it from Jeff Backler, that's it. So it was this. He's just been holding him for like fifty years. Yeah, no, no, no, No, I'm I'm uptied him, not that uptight. I think I've

I've look, guys, I've farted. Okay, he's a man. No, Like something happened and like I was, like I was, I was uncomfortable for like twenty four hours and then I was fine, and I'm just like, well, is this just like old man problems? Like what like what are what are we doing? Right? Yeah? You know, isn't to check the colon? No? Not? I think forty five? Forty five now? Yeah? Yeah, like no, like I'm not in any discomfort. It was, it was. It was short lived. I couldn't

off. I was just like over deserved of myself skating. Who knows what happens. It's like movement based. Yeah. Can I ask a very serious question please. This has been bugging me for a while and I thought I could use this platform. Okay. I think ice cream sandwiches should only have like the chocolate biscuit. They should not have anything else as the way the sandwich apparatus. Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait it's a weird thing. It's a weird hill eye on Joe ice cream. No, no,

no, no, you should of course have the ice cream inside. I'm just talking about the holding apparatus. So you're saying the only form factory should be like the brown rectangle. Yeah, no chip witch, no gimmicks, like no, it's it like no cookies on each side. But like the biscuit is basically a cookie. Yeah, but I'm talking about that soft spongy one and like, hey, it's it. I'll wrap it because it's from the Bay Area. It's very good, but it gets messy because like as

you're biting down in the cookie, it's pushing ice cream out. That's why I ate mine with a knife and form. Yeah, I would microwave it for like five or two seconds, throw it in a bowl and just take a spoon and and then just go to town on it. Microwaving is Oh, that's interesting, Like you know, the the like little pints of ice cream, like the halotop gimmick things. Just let's get in there quicker.

Yeah, okay, I'm in the molecules. Yeah exactly exactly, because I had one it was like two little waffle discs and I'm like, what are we doing here, guys? And I just like spilling out and everything. Was that at a restaurant or at a place, a food truck something like that. No, it was just like a boxed one from it, like from the store. Okay, yeah, the waffle thing seems like not the best form factor Choco Chaco, though, that's a different situation, I accept,

right, Yeah, so I've started to cut everyone off. I have a more important thing to say. I think, like, I got ridiculed about my ice cream decision the other day, and I need validation. Sure, I can't promise anything, but yeah, I have a fraught relationship with ice cream. But you go ahead. Maybe this is the source of my gas. But I had an ice cream outing on Friday night and I chose

to get chocolate chip cookie dough. And as I was ordering, I told the person behind the counter, I would like Reese's pieces, but at the bottom of the cup. Oh interesting, Okay, I want them at the bottom of the cup because exactly, I like a little surprise at the thank you exactly. And I was met with a grimace from the person behind the counter in a way that i've I almost canceled the order. I almost took my business elsewhere. I could not believe the ridicule. And she goes,

she goes, do you not want it on top? I said, did I stutter? I know, I told you what I desire, and please it for me in a cup. Correct in a cup, as much as I want to give you a ship. That is a perfectly reasonable thing. You know, Like people have way weirder and way more pain in the ass pair of things. Like I worked at McDonald's and they would just be like, oh I would, but the first third as normal coke and then the second third is diet coke and then the top. It's like what everybody,

Okay, I'm on the cop this is my job. I'm doing it. But like there's that weird stuff. Putting it on the bottom is not a hassle for ice cream because it isn't the whole idea. Like again, I don't get ice cream that often, but like every order is a custom order because everyone wants different things. So it's like McDonald's where it's like, uh yeah, and we make it one way. I guess we'll hold the pickles

for you. That's fine, we can do that. But like, yes, ice cream, it's like, no, what do you want on your ice cream? So it's like the that's the whole process. What did we learn from chef reactions. We learn, but we did learn that we were talking about a service industry, right, Like this is the deal that my

order was not crazy, I'll defend it. I'll defend it. And plus you have a good reason to do that, because like I go to McDonald's these days, and these goddamn kids that work there now, they don't understank. I worked at McDonald's. I've made thousands of mcflury's. You need. It's the exact same spoon gimmick that I was there when I worked there in the nineties, and you got to make it go all the way down and up a bunch to make sure those oreos and all that shit is going all

around. Now, I eat one and the first like ten percent has some oreos in it, and then it's just vanilla. So officer of the rest of the cup, these kids need to get it all the way to the bottom of the gimmick. Yes, respect ice cream. Yeah, yes, there was a huge line time was of the essence. Okay, So there's

feel like a criminal. Okay, So that you got to keep some things in mind here because it always be clothing does point out if it's set up like a subway and so like, where were the Reese's pieces in relation to like where they were starting to make it? Was it within breaching distance? They sat in between the conversation I was having with the with the Okay, all right, if you're within arms room, Nio, you're in the You're completely in the right here, I pointed, I said, can I have

Reese's pieces at the bottom of the cup? Right? That's what I was met with, huffing and puffing. I think that's why I have grown to enjoy the Cold Stones because they just treat ice cream like Benny Hannah's. Yeah, you mix everything. They got confusing sizes, Yeah, fair enough. I would like to have this. Please put this in my mouth. Like it's got like all sorts of weird like it's I don't know what size that is. It's like do in difficulty levels? Yeah, yeah, I don't

any or whatever. Yeah. I think I've only been to Cold Stone maybe once, and I don't recall the sizes being a point of contention. What's the story mode the game? Plus there's sentences. Oh, they're like fall off, like you know, confusing Starbucks is it's like that times twenty Oh jesus, uh, this is my request, because I'm quickly learning that you if you ask the giant bomb audience of anything, some of them will will deliver if you manage the Cold Stones in Los Angeles. Let us back there,

Let us back there and let us make something place. Yeah, I think there. I don't remember their ice cream being exceptional in any No, no, no, no, it's it's completely okay, it's serviceable. But I just want to see Dan Grubb and Minatti. It just slapping the ice cream ice cream. Yeah, oh my god. It's a place and spend the pizza. I thought it was fun and curtains and stuff. I've done that. Yeah, I used to work at pizza places a little bit.

That's good time, kay I. It stings because when I was young, I had like sensitive teeth and I didn't like cold, so I didn't like ice cream all that much. And now that I'm like, that phase is mostly ended for me, where I'm like, no, cold stuff's fine, and now it's like, uh, the dairy is a problem, and so it's like if I eat ice cream, now it's a problem on the other side. And so like my whole life, I've kind of just been dodging

ice cream mostly and I'm like kind of disappointed. Now, I'm like, ah, man, that seems like a nice tree ice cream, Like, yeah, yeah, I just wish there was a time in my life where I could have appreciated it. I just don't think it's gonna it's in the cards for me, So that's sad. The thing is, you travel. We're going to be on a work trip with two of the most lactose intolerant people. I know that's true, and they're constantly carrying lactaid, So just

just hit them up. Yeah, okay, Lucy and Tam they got the plug. Okay, have it after we have a really spicy shitty burrito at two in the morning outside of our hotel. Oh my god, can you imagine if that place also sold ice cream? Oh damn, what the hell would that be? I don't know, there's some soup. You're not ready to play that game, but I can playing these games. Let's start on what I'm going to assume is going to be a lighter discussion Little Kiddy,

Big City Jeff Grubb, Yeah, you were right, Jane. I mentioned this elsewhere, but very rarely when someone says I think the kids would like this, I always like welcome that, because it's like, I'll give it a shot, but I rarely do I actually believe that that's actually going to work out. You were one, right, The kids have gone why for this game. They are playing it NonStop. Emmy's not someone who would spend a ton of time with a game that isn't Mario right now, because she's

back on way, way way back in the Mario bandwagon. And even then, she's like, I'll just kind of like poke around. This is a game. It's perfect for that. It's like, just if you want to just mess around and poke at the world and go in the store and knock

stuff down, you could do that. And as she's been doing that, she's slowly been acquiring the skill to actually play like this cute little open world game, yeah, where like I'll go over it's like, oh, you got a new hat and you found oh you found one of the like the ducks that you have to take back to the to the Mama duck or whatever.

And it's like I just wasn't expecting her to have the patience for it, and it just completely fits with the way I think a little kid wants to play games where it's mostly a sandbox mostly a playground, very low stakes, no real enemies. A couple of things get in your way, but that's fine. It's not like the end of the world. There's still plenty of other things to do. And in the meantime she is like figuring out how to play it, and it's been really cool to see, and so

I've been occasionally helping them, and I'm enjoying it too. It seems like a really cute game. I think it's untitled Goose game is definitely the primary like point of comparison, right, and it feels a little bit less refined than untitled Goose Game. But it's also more open and more and even more playful than that game in a lot of ways, where it's like you can just kind of explore it on your own terms, and so I kind of

appreciate that. Is there anything like stray tonally was so different and it was, you know, saying something and it was like a dark, you know, dystopian thing. But just in terms of locomotion, is it anything like that in terms of like the way that game nos, Yeah, this is like the way you would imagine an animal moving around a city, the way you would want them to move this. That's how they move in this game.

It's like the jump is like you hold down B and you like place your pause before you jump, and then you let go and it does that jump. And that's like not exactly quite as active as I would imagine, but that's very handy because it enables you to make all these jumps from like, oh, you're on an air conditioner on the side of a building and you want to jump to the next air conditioner. You can actually place the jump, you know, pixel perfect, So I really actually end up liking

that. And just the way the cat moves around. You can hold down the right bumper button to give them the zoomies, which is the sprint button. It's like cute stuff like that, and it all feels really nice. It's, you know, again not quite as refined as some of the games in the genre, but all the ways it's like maybe a little bit janky are never a problem, and sometimes they're just kind of like, Oh, that's that's silly that that's happening. I feel like we are in dire need

of more exploration animal games that aren't taking themselves too seriously. Yeah, So this is like a popular genre for like the asset Flip games on mobile or something like that. You'll get like, you know, basically the GTA of Cat games and it's just the shittiest city you've ever seen. And this like terribly animated cat moving around and like the placeholder characters to go mess with or something like that. And it's like if Goat Simulator was actually like fully bad

is what those games are. So to have one of these that actually have someone with an idea of how these games should work, I'm along and make this has been really nice. Those g t A Cat games instead of sandbox games, would you say they're litterbox games? Yeah, okay, yeah, I see what we've done here. But like I honestly thank you, thank you twelve podcast points for everyone listening right now. I have been thinking about going and playing mister Mosquito. Yeah sure, yeah, let's go. I

got a copy right here. Yeah I didn't Mosquito, let's go. Oh man, what do you want to know? I have to now? I feel like that would be your Marvel name. That could be a delight club for jan It's awesome. What have you played it? I've only ever seen screenshots and oh analog there's a risk reward, Like, man, I want to pill up this blood too, but they're about to swap me. Man, it's just a thrill a minute. It's great. You get remote control

and fuck with the family. It's great. Well that's what That's what I'm getting at is that I miss weird animal games. And I know the untitled Goose game wasn't the first to do that in a long time, and grub there's probably a bunch of mobile games and indie games, but like, what about we just explore being animals? Uh? What if I just want to be a bear climbing a tree eating some honey. I've never played Tokyo Jungles. Yeah, people, Now people in chat are saying that, Okay,

I'll do that. It's pretty interesting. Yeah, mister jansqudo Okay, that doesn't even asquito. Mister Mosquito shoa, that's closer. It still doesn't work. I did not expect to get a big pop for mister Mosquito, and that anytime that I want to see this, I've been thinking about, like digging into the PS two void of just miscellaneous games. Adventures of Cookies and Cream go Off. Do you ever play Katamari de MASSI of course. Oh yeah, yeah, very formative game. Yes, it was a good system.

If you just want some weird hitting gym stuff raw danger flip nick, yeah, get raw Dangers come to a pointy point you do. Yeah, let me see what the what they even call raw Danger on the Wikipedia. It's an action adventure survival game. Okay, yeah, it's a sequel to Disaster Report. You know, Disaster Report, right. Yes, It's like you're a waiter and you're working like a thing and then it starts flooding, you know, and then's like, who what are you gonna do about this?

Okay, Broad Danger? Yeah, maybe we should just like, uh, perhaps devise a wheel and a virtual wheel with a bunch of PS two titles and just spin it. Yes, I like it, Yes, a virtual wheel, a shoot wheel? Perhaps? Did you like to build this conversation a lab to get Dan excited about more awake than I am right now? Look at this wheels weird PS two games. He doesn't need roids ideas,

there we go. That's that's why in another life, uh, Dan would be like a prize fighter boxer, and then then I would be his like hype manner. I'm smelling Saltsan's just a copy of mister Mosquito stitch, you knowing the Fight Night mini game. Between rounds, I'm tapping the back of his head to tell him how many fingers the ref is holding up one in the middle. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly, Jeff Grebb,

you've also been playing another game called crypt Master. Yeah. I just started this, and I this is the one that we keep saying, Oh, it's like Typing of the Dead, and it's not quite. It is a game you play with your keyboard by typing him words. Uh, it's okay, Yes, you play with your keyboard. Everyone's getting hold on here it comes my pop. Not as as mister Mosquito over here, but you're look

his head though, yeah, vascular his hat pops up a centimeter. It just rises up on the steam because tell me more about your keyboard game. So it's a it's a dungeon crawler, you know. I'll just I'll do the anecdote that I thought was was interesting. So you go up to things like chests and you need to figure out what's in them. And there's a Narration character who's like a necromancer who goes along with you and he doesn't remember

ship, he can like describe what he's looking at. You got to type it in, and so it's like actively typing in words to do stuff in the world. And that means like, oh, so when I need to attack something, I'm typing in hit. But I got to this one statue that is like a save statue and could replenish your life, but she only works with the living, and all my characters are dead during the Land of the Dead. And so the guy that I'm with is like, well,

what if we desecrate this thing? That would work. I'm like okay. So he's like, all right, do something descrate. Of course, the first thing that comes to mind is like pe or piss, but I'm like, I don't want to be I'm just well, okay, I thought I bet it would work. But instead of like you know what, I'm gonna go with something a little bit sillier and even more silly than that, and

I'm gonna type in fart and see if that works. So I typed in part and the game just lets out the most enormous fart sound and I was like, that's perfect. This thing just fell apart. You did it. You've totally desecrated this thing. You should do that. We should destcrate more things that way. I'm like, oh, okay, so the game is like predicting the way the player is going to react to the things that sets

up and accounts for that. And it was it's super cool. It's super a little scribble nazi like, yes, definitely, don't say it that way. Rephrase that, rephrase that, don't don't. Oh yeah, a different game. It's a different game, sure, different difficult. Yeah, we're wear different suits and uniforms. Yeah I don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's scribble not adjacent. Yah, Like there we go. I don't know. It's really cool. It's got a cool style. I'm into it.

I'm gonna keep playing it, but I just kind of feel like I'm scratching the surface of this one. That's cool. Games should have like a uh like a like a like a type test, like a per minute that besides your you know, difficult points or something like that. Right, Oh okay, that'd be cool. Yeah. Nothing aims me up than taking like an aptitude test before starting a game. Well it's not. It's all in

good fun. I mean, you go to monkey type dot com and you have yourself a little contest with yourself and well, was it Halo that that did the thing of like you know, they told you to look up and then depending on how you move the stick. I always like that yeating. It's like, yeah, that's very smart. Yeah good, I think I'm infamous did that too, Yeah, yeah, there was a handful of games that tried that, Moving from the Dead to the Dread Dan Reikert Red Delusion.

Yeah, this is one that didn't normally seem like it would be up my alley, but bunks from playing a lot. She's a big, big, longtime Morowin fan, and it's very very much based on that, and like I didn't hop onto Elder Scrolls until Oblivion, Skyrim all that stuff, so I thought it'd be interesting to try out because she was really high on it. And man, it's got a hell of a look. Hell of

it, Like the audio design incredible. I was really into what I played early on, but unfortunately I did run into a bunch of bugs and stuff both on my PC and on the steam deck where the steam deck is where I had the problems. This is why I haven't been playing this one. What was your What was your problem? So it is I tried to make the look the look stick feel good, and it doesn't. It doesn't ever

feel good. So what happens is if you're moving the character, uh, and then you try to like look right, left, up, down, it'll have it'll be very sluggish. And I turned up the sensitivity a ton, and that would like, yeah, if I'm standing still, it makes it more sensitive and that to make it feel better. But then when I'm move in again, it's that sluggishness comes back in and it made me feel

crazy, and I posted this on Twitter. A developer said this is a CPU issue, specifically that it would definitely affect the Steam deck and they're going to try to have a fix for it. So I'm like, okay, great, I'm gonna put this to the side and I'll come back once that works. Yeah. Mine, mine was totally different, and it was like, you know, to select items and weapons and things like that, you're supposed to use the deepad and I got all these items and potions and throwing

knives and stuff like that, and deep Pad wouldn't select them. So like, the only way I could throw up throwing knife was like to go to the menu and select it and then it would just throw it from the menu. And it's like and I showed Bong, She's like, yeah, that's that's not right. So yeah, so I'm just gonna wait. It's it's something I want to go back to. And and Bonc has had a pretty you know, smooth experience with it and it's loving it, so like I

know there's something good there. But yeah, I'm just a little of style, like that first character you come up against where he's like in that pain prison and he loves it, is like, yeah, I'm doing the iron on your thing. Yeah, should be as lucky and it's just leaking like a jpeg of blood and it's like, yeah, that's that's cool. That's Yeah, it's got a really cool vibe to it, like red skies, mushrooms everywhere. It's just a just look up like a screenshot of it.

It's got a great, great vibe to it. But yeah, I'm gonna hold off until some things get ironed out. And when I google like bugs, you know, dread delusion, there are a lot and there are a lot of different ones, so I think, and it's been an early access for a long time, so like hoping they get this stuff fixed. Yep, I really want to play it, but I'm in the same boat. I'm not going to play until I know at least the things that are plaguing

me are working. Ye speaking about vibes, guys, I've gone all the way in into this, the vibes of this game. I started playing in black and white because that Ghost of Sushima it was hit the PC. Uh was it UPF for Thursday? It was UPF right. We did the cod ups, Yes, yes, that's fine. We did Legends Mode and Ghost of Sushima and that was very, very fun. I don't think I gave

Ghost of Sushima an honest chance when it came out for whatever reason. I think maybe it was busy at the time that it came out in a very busy year where there was like Final another Final Fantasy game and other titles that I just missed it. And boy, howdy do I regret that? Because this game is pretty as heck. Oh yeah, it looks real nice. It runs awesome on PC. Yes, runs so well. The Steam deck

work very well in the Steam deck as well. Yeah, from planet I'm just said, I said to forty five frames per second, so it doubles up to the ninety. Looks great, And I did the thing where I put in Japanese so in English subtitles, so I'm sent me forced to pay attention to what's happening in the story, and I'm really enjoying my time. The combat is different than what I was expecting it to be, because I was kind of expecting either more of a dark Soul's approach or more hacky,

slashy type of type of delio. But this one, your Samurai strikes a balance at feeling a little floaty but also like heavy, and I kind of enjoy that you don't quite have to worry about like a staminameter super hard like you would in Securo. But I do miss the fluidity of a game like secu Row. But here I feel like I'm nailing the Perrys and like the

Dodges. A lot Arkhamish combat, right yea c area. Yeah, I don't remember Infamous combat that well, but like that was a lot more kind of project, like you're not right up, like there is some melee stuff, but you can kind of hang back and shoot shit, you know, Okay, okay, but yeah, it does feel very Arkham adjacent. And then I'm just having a as opposed to final Fantasy seven Rebirth, where I

avoided all of the side stuff just try and mainline the story. I'm doing nothing but the side stuff in Ghost of Tsushima just because I enjoy being in that world and I feel like they're doing a really good job at like riding the line between heavy cinematic approach to a lot of the presentation and having it

also be a fun game to play. It is making me very excited for the new Assassin's Creed game and hoping that they can nail that, because you can approach some portions of this game stealthily, but it isn't as fun to get through it as it is to just like speed through a village and just like hot parry a bunch of dudes and then just make your way through. I do want to play more of that Legends mode though, do too?

Yeah? Me too? Between the Yeah, the Eldon Ring co op stuff and Ghosts last week, it was like, oh man, there's some good four player stuff we were doing, and I wanted to do more of both. Yeah. Yeah, So I've been playing it as well. I'm just gonna ask you, like so that when you get into a mission, I'm like, okay, yeah, I kind of like this, but it also does the thing where it's like we're going to have the title card played before this mission and then I'm like, okay, cool, and it's good.

Is it going to be like super in depth. It's like, no, that's gonna be kind of what you've been doing. You're going to go and fight some guys, pick something up, and then we're going to send you to the next thing on this quest line. And I'm not really complaining, but it's like, I do feel like sometimes it like really takes the presentation very seriously, and I wonder if that's going to get grading on me after

a certain period of time. So far, I'm like, eh, I keep picking it up, and every time I get like the steam deck out and I turn it on, it's like, oh, yeah, I'm playing Ghost of Sushima. I'm maintaining a lot of that momentum in a way that I didn't when I was playing it on the PS four originally, And I'm really enjoying it. Are you do you do any concern that, like the variety of what you're doing in the world will be lack now that you mention

it that part. I enjoy it, but it also does kind of break up the pace in a negative way where it does take me out of it. And then I can imagine if say you were trying to undred percent this game and you were just constantly being pulled out to the title cards and like, hey, this is what you gotta do. At least it's done very well. It's not like half assed in any way. I can see that

getting very annoying after a while. That being said, for as much as I'm enjoying the game just because of the scope in how big it is, I don't think I'm gonna get close to finishing it at all. I'm just enjoying the time that I'm in it now. And perhaps if we check out more of the Legends mode, I think that we had figured out how to ping things on consoles a long time ago. Ye, My one gripe with

the Legends mode. Besides it being a tad difficult and a little bit grindy to begin with if you're trying to jump in with woar folks, is the pinging systems just odd. Having to hold down a trigger and the yeah, and even like the emoting and stuff I had to ask every time. It's like hold L two and then do this. It just seemed clunky. Yeah, very minor gripes, but like, I do enjoy the combat after getting adjusted to it, and I just hate archers. Yeah you're annoying in the

single player game too. Yeah. Yeah, I always run for them first and take them out. And the first thing I upgraded for my character was the standoffs. So now if I do a standoff, I can kill the first guy and then two follow ups as well. So every battle I'm starting off, I'm taking out three people immediately, and that's cool. But then the next thing I'm looking at now is Okay, I need to be able

to block arrows from a distance. That's what I need right now. And we got that upgrade in Legends and that was great, Like, Okay, well this is a separate character, so I'll do that here. How do you feel about like the way the game is presenting the stealth stuff? It is like, this is something your character finds dishonorable and distasteful and has to do it, and I'm like, I it makes me kind of not want to do it, even though I love stealth stuff, and why like why

do I care? But it's like I don't know the way they're framing it makes me a little bit less willing to engage with it. It almost feels like a designed cop out of like, Hey, we know that this isn't as fleshed out, so we're just going to tell you it's bad to do it, don't do it. Yeah, and I've done some of the stuff. Suff're right, there's not like too much to it, at least at the beginning. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe maybe they build on it.

It feels odd that they're framing it like that and like, are you encouraging me to do stealth or not? But it does just wet my appetite for like the possibilities of more stealth focused Assassin's Creed in the Future totally was tensh you ever good? Ah? I liked I think the first ten shoe the things you could do, like it sounded fun in like a magazine.

It was like, oh, you're sneaking across rooftops and stealth games. Oh yeah, no, oh Dan, Dan, Okay, yeah, sorry, yes, I sucked at I like you a lot on a PlayStation wall or a PlayStation rice off a roof and hoping a guy sees it and waiting for twenty minutes. Yeah that's great, damn, but that's just like throwing sand at someone. That's fun fi dust. Yeah, that's the good time, right there. Yeah, I think I'm looking for I'm looking for a stealth game, but I don't want, uh, Tom Clancy, I don't want

what's face? You played metal Gear Solid? Yes? Yes? Okay, okay? I mean, god, the what are the what's the mount rushmore stealth games? Uh? It's metal Gear, It's splinter Cell, It's it's Sly Cooper. Is it hit Man and hit Man? Oh? Oh yeah, up hit Man because I wanted the hijinks. Oh game, Well, go back to hit Man. That's always the answer. I think the thing missing and hit Man for me is just like the ease of mobility, Like I just want to be able to climb ship and just like hot perch and

hide. Sure, remember the Sabageur. I don't remember that? All right, I'll look it up, because no, I'm gonna sound like a crazy person on a podcast. I can't afford that. I've been thinking of the Sabotury lately and being like, I feel like people didn't really talk about it when it came out, but it seems kind of interesting. Who made it? Was a study that shut down? Is it the Mercenary studio? They had like a gas mask as a logo. What the was that? It

was a pandemic that the pandemic from Yes, yeah, yeah. The Sabatour offers free DLC of boobs on day one. On the first day the sabatur is available, Electronic Arts will offer downloadable content which removes the nipple covering pasties from the performers at the nightclub in the game. Wow, do you know what this was? But it's a code that comes on a piece of paper in the fiscal copy of the game. So when you use it, you

get the nipples. So if you sell this game used the person would bind the used copy would not get it, and if they want to see the nipples, they would have to pay an extra ten dollars. Oh, so it's a pass. So it's like during the online pass This was a dark days, like yes on my passes and stuff like that. What happened to games cult? What happened? We used to have Rumble Roses, Shade, pop Lolly saw whatever. The DLC pass is one of the greatest accomplishments pop

chain saw. There we go James Guns, Lollipop chainsaw. Uh gre you mentioned a second ago about you changed it to like the frames for a second on like the limit on steam deck. That's something I've been thinking about lately because I wasn't really aware of how useful that was, because you know, the steaming deck with battery and stuff like that, and a lot of times I'm playing Animal wel or an indie game. We're like right now, the

main thing I'm playing on there is wind Waker HD. So it's like with emulation, emulation if you sometimes with some emulators if you turn down the frame rate will mess up the music or mess up the game a little bit, but any modern game should be just fine with it for the most part. Okay, So, like what is the process? You basically just like load a game up and then you just bring the sliders down, like yeah,

that's right on fine or it's not. Uh yes, so I would Yeah, you just hit that button that brings up that side menu you go over to, like it it's like the better battery icon or perform it's like TDP, it's frame rates. Yeah, the first thing you would want to do is turn down the frame rate limit. That would that's the one that's going

to be the safest for you to mess around with. And if you do that, if you set that to thirty, it will just render thirty frames per second, and then it'll triple it to ninety, so it'll still look pretty good. On the steam deck. Forty five is what I go for most of the time though, because it looks fantastic. There's a tripler, but like toggle, so like I go to, it'll just do it for

you. On math, what you're going to look for is on this on the limitter, it'll say thirty frames per second, and then in parentheses it's going to say, and here's how fast the screen is refreshing, and it's it's refreshing. It ninety hurts basically, and that's what you want. You want to do thirty or forty five. If you need to mess around with it beyond that, feel free you can. But those are the ones that

will divide evenly into ninety. Uh. Then if you really are worried about battery, you can then go into TDP and like set the maximum total draw power to be like, oh yeah, fifteen watts is good enough for this game, and it will never use more than fifteen watts and will be good. But that's that's a process where you're gonna want to go online and google

and see what you say. So I don't even know, like I don't have a sense of like what six watts is versus fifteen you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean if you're playing, like honestly animal, well, I didn't do this. I probably should have said it to like six watts. It probably would have been just fine. But you want to

like have the lowest number possible if you're trying to save battery life. But this is like if you're really trying to squeeze out an extra ten percent of battery life because you're on scat trip, It's it's not worth thinking about too much because a lot of this can cause battery anxiety and that's not worth it. Okay, okay, good to know. Also, wind Waker HG is fucking awesome on there. It runs great, I own it. I can't

wait for it to beat because then that's when Nintendo will announce it. So for the song, I've been thinking about that because that's what I went fucking Metroids. I played it on Dolphin and then it's like, oh great, then they put out remastered, so ye yeah, yeah, but it's awesome on there. Whin Waker turns out still extremely good. Yep, I'm going to play it on the Steam deck. I think it turns out. The other thing that is still extremely good is elden Ring. Yeah. Yeah,

I beat Millennia. Oh how was that? I barely got hit. It was great. Friends they're not friend yeah, I don't know them, but somebody else was there. Uh yeah, I tried, yeah, but uh yeah, I streamed Millennia did the fight first. I'm doing the Halleck Tree. I'd never been there before because I was too annoyed by the like invisible assholes in that area where you have to like light the lanterns and the frozen

doge or whatever. And I was like, fuck it, I'm gonna actually do this because I'm in an elden Ring mood lately, and uh yeah, that game is fucking awesome stuff that rules. I was watching you play and I was like, I should stop playing Ghost of sushimn go play this instead doing that. That's why I think I'm not going to finish Ghosts of Sushima. Also is because of elden Ring and my my TikTok algorithm has just gotten influenced by elder ring lore, and I realized I don't remember Squat from that

game story wise. Yeah, and then I fell into a deep lore hole. If anyone video we doing that multiplayer thing again this Friday, I can't remember. Yes, yeah, that rules saying that we're gonna take out Deliberate Godfree all right, hell yeah, I'm excited. Like that is like where I'm at with that game. I am looking forward to it in every way. Let's go play more multiplayer, give me more Shadow of the Urg Tree and if it's just picking it up playing it on the steam deck, the

base Vanilla game. At this point, I am happy, like that game rules. So there was perched, like get to a new area that I hadn't seen before, and like I beat this game twice. I played like, yeah, two hundred hours of this game, and I'm walking into places now it's been out for a couple of years. I'm looking around like this is, how does this look so fucking good? How was this game in every way? And there's so many different builds you can do, there's so

many giant optional areas and bosses and everything. Just fucking works and is great, and it is that the bar is so fucking high after that game. Yeah, I As I was looking up guides to build a better version of my original character, I was called choice paralysis because it's like, ooh, this is this looks cool. I could have like a twelve foot Katana and then you look over and it's like this one shoots blood and this one has

the power of the moon. And as I was scrolling through videos, I came across a random lore one and I had never seen this village that this person talked about, so I just found where it was on the map and then I explored it. So you're right, Dan, I have no idea how this game got made. I mean, it really is just it really just come down to the best artist in the world worked on it. They really are that talented. Yeah, and I'm very, very excited and terrified

for a Shadow of the Ur Tree. I was kind of dreading it because it was like, oh, I don't need to go back to Olden Ring, And it turns out all it turns out we all need to go. We shouldn't have left. Baron asked me my most anticipated game, this is it? I didn't say this I should have said Shadowed the ur Tree. That's my most anticipated wow ty praise. That's where I'm at with that it's eligible for Game of the Year. Yeah, sure, sure, Okay,

there's there's no rules. Yeah, there's no rules. Really we could design, but yes, that would be eligible. What if they had a cart racing mode to it? Okay, then it's definitely eligible, and then it's overqualified. Okay. You know it's also in Armored Course six. I want to go back to that and play that. Yeah, game so good? Yeah it turns out yeah, yeah, absolutely. I don't know. It's

just I've been seeing that pop up more and more on my feed. I think it must have gone on sale on Steam or something, and I think more people are playing it because it's it's popping up more frequently. I'm just like, God, what a good game. Speaking about good games, guys, last game I have here on the rundown. I can't say that this is this is how I feel about the game. But last game we're talking about today before we go to break Samuela Saga Hell Blade two. I don't

like this game. I don't like this game. You've been playing it? Jan, Yes, Okay, all right, good, all right, because I was like, we can't just have damp but talk about it. I'm not going to. You know, it is the most anti me game possible.

And I see that some people are liking you, and that's great, but like immediately when it starts and the first thing is my character is hurt and I'm holding up on the analogsticked, and that kind of goes for like thirty minutes, like you know, all the things I hate about Red Dead Redemption too. How it's like, you know, everything's methodical and laborious, and story seems to take precedents over everything. This makes Red Dead two look

like Mario Ottisy. It's shit. I need to play this. I haven't. I just need to get the code unlock it. I'm you know, I'm not a story guy. I don't care about story or whatever. But you are. Okay, So yeah, Jared, tell me, tell me how you're feeling about it, Jane, Okay. I think everything that I'm not enjoying about the game is purely about gameplay. Yeah, I think, I think. But also, you ever, you ever have like like a critical blockbuster movie that people tell you like, oh you got to see this.

This is kid, this is like, sure, if you're gonna blow your mind, it's gonna change your mind. I kind of felt that with help Send You a Saga, hel Blade one. I didn't check out hew Blade one, but I was seeing a lot of hype with hell Blade two, and then I'm playing it, and then the whole time, I feel like I'm politely nodding my head and like gritting my teeth of like, yeah, this is cool. Did you do the story recap at the beginning when it's like I fell asleep? Damn? Okay, okay, yes, because

I fell asleep. I just liked the first game also, and I was like, I didn't play the whole thing, all right, if I'm gonna give this one a shot, let's see the story recap. And I hit that, and I swear to god, it felt like fifteen minutes of looking at rock, like literal rocks. It's like slow pans of rocks. Right, I'm not making us up. No, no, no, no, sleep. It was just nature b roll. Yeah, what are you talking

about? That's crazy. No, It's like a rock with like an etching of like a lady with a sword on it and some guys like and then she was mad at her dad, and you know, it's like, okay, great, it's it's wild how all over the mass I know the response

is to this game. I was shocked because I think that's good. Yeah, it's interesting, it is, But like I was shocked today when I saw the Metacritic because like, I've talked to numerous people that I knew were playing at pre release, and one hundred percent of the people I talked to were like, I cannot imagine playing any more of this game. This is laborious as hell. You guys have been having those conversations. I was here, and now I'm like, oh man, it's gonna be another one of

those weeks. And then yeah, I guess I've heard since then a couple people are like, no, no, I'm I'm into what this is doing. I'm okay, so maybe we'll be more mixed. I wasn't expecting it to be able to even get into the eighties on Metacritic now, which is where it's at, right, So it is it's like eighty one. Yeah, so okay. I think a big part of that is it does look as technologically impressive as they promised, Right, That's at least something I mean

it. Yes, I mean there's like frame rate stuff and it definitely does to like Order eighteen eighty six, like letterboxing and everything it is like. But I mean yes, the facial capture and all that stuff, it looks it's the fidelity is incredible for sure in it. But the what you do, like even beyond like the slow stark dam where it's fortunately to have like the the you know, I guess are you like limping for a long time? Is that we usually limping for Yeah, Dan is not exaggerating. I

remember it in Wolfenstein too, where and he was in a wheelchair. It's like, oh man, I wond how they're gonna pay this, and then they're like, just give you a gun and it's an awesome shooter in a wheelchair. Market should be like we're doomed. Twenty sixteen was like let's go gun, go kill right. Yeah, he wakes up it immediately's just like

I'm gonna start ripping staff part Now. This is a lot of limping forward in the rain and grunting and hearing the voices in her head and then there's a rock and then it's like and I thought like, oh did I trigger a cut scene? And I've just put the controller down because I just wanted to be doing anything else. And then she stopped moving. I was like, oh no, it wants me to play right right, it's a whole

holding it up. So that's like, that's definitely a turn off hearing about that, Like I thought we were not maybe beyond that, but certainly looking at it, maybe you know, in the room, get rid of like press forward to play the video that's on your screen. Yeah, yeah,

go ahead. And it feels very like, I don't know, it feels fair like the things that you know so rightfully gets criticized for doing a lot of that stuff, Like I feel like a lot of Uncharted and Last of Us and I didn't like, yeah, rag Rock, I didn't like, you know, like this is just like all again, all of those are

Mario otasy compared to this. Yeah. But the flip side for me is like all those games you listed off, Dan, like all of those were also fun to play regard right, So so the gameplay I've heard the combats disappointing at the very least, and the puzzles are also kind of like they just fizzle out, Like what's the deal, what's the problem with these things. The combat, it feels like the it feels like you're just having duels one after another of like one on one fights with enemies and their rise.

No, because then like it feels like there's more stakes there and it feels like all those battles mean more here are there versus how it is in hell BLA two Because it's like, all right, I'm guess I'm fighting this nameless dude. Now just got to parry him a couple of times and then fight until the cinematic ending of this word you're per and stabs them in the throat, and it just it just doesn't feel good. It just feels very simple.

Is the other aspect of it is, because okay, cool, I could parry this or block this or dodge this, and sure you can get staggered if you dodge, or you can get hit when you dodge instead of blocking. But it just doesn't feel fun to go through these combat encounters.

And with the puzzles, I think people's main complaint is that they're just some of them at least are just like the perspective locking style of like here's this glyph, walk around the environment until you match the environment to match this glyph and then it it's very generous with it where it does it super duper fast of like, oh I think this is it? Am I? Oh okay,

No, the game said it's it. I think that's what I was surprised by, because like, that's part of what I hated about the first one was that, like I felt like I was just slowly going to a thing and then I was telling me to like look at things until I unlocked the next path to go to. Now it's like, surely they're gonna add like another element to this and just going to be like yeah, slow combat. Then I look at a thing and then I move forward and it's like,

no, this is just that again. You know. Yeah, then that sounds even more antiquated than it would have when hell Blade one came out, Like that sounds pretty old fashioned as a solution for your very story driven, narrative, interactive movie game that you're making. Other people have found other ways to do that that maybe are more interesting than this, and so yeah, that's disappointing. But like the game visually looks very stunning, and you

know, I get bored with the combat aspect of it. But some of the combat is presented very well. It has like amazing lighting, it just does not feel amazing to play. I mean, like, hey, I do recommend if if you are if you do want to play hell Blade two, despite all the things that we've said, I do recommend playing it with headphones because they do the binaural bivial audioinural goes all around your head. Yeah.

Yes, so you know with Senua, she'll have like voices in one ear and then the other ear, and then sometimes it's like mixed in the middle and then you do a whole mix with other voices like that. That

aspect incredibly well done. Yeah, it's I when I was looking at the reviews this morning, it was kind of a moment of like, Okay, yeah, if people come to video games for different things, and that's not necessarily like I'm glad people are liking it, but it's like, you know, for me, it has none of the things that I come to video games for. But apparently it's resonating with some people, which hey, good, good for them. But yeah, yeah, it's like a grub go

ahead. Oh. I was just gonna say, like Jen, like someone in Chad like a one thousand X resists and stuff. Like that, Harold howibout. But recently we've gotten a handful of games that are less interested in like just hitting you over the head with constant gameplay and are trying to tell a story, like I think I think thirteen thirteen Sentinels is a game where

yea, the very story heavy. The difference between those games and this for you is that when you are playing a game, you're bored here or is it like oh, and also know, the storytelling just works better for whatever reason, I think the method of storytelling just works a little bit better for me in those other games you mentioned, And like, I'm someone that also enjoys like visual novel games, right, like I enjoyed Slay the Princess from

last year. But here it just feels so heavy handed in a way that it's off putting to me and my taste specifically. And there's portions of it that remind me of the more recent tomb Raider game where it just feels like gore porn. After a while of like how much stuff can we throw this

person through? Yeah, and I understand like part of that is like her journey like overcoming all of that, but after a while, it's just like guys like I just I need a breath in between all of this, and I feel like there are other games out there that do handle like heavy story elements, heavy subject matter in a more approachable way that is more palatable for me at least. This is just like, okay, all right, we

get it. The faces look really good and like the As someone that does come to games for a lot of story, I think for me personally, I think I wind up enjoying games that have a strong supporting cast to bounce off of for those character and here there isn't a lot of that, despite like there being multiple voices and Sendu's head and her contending with characters from the previous game. Maybe I'd have a different context if I play the original game

and saw like that build for her. Perhaps I don't know, got it there was a game I was thinking of that just kind of nailed the story beats for me immediately, Oh, this senuous saga Helblay two feels like anti Asaura's wrath. Oh sure, sure, yeah, okay, like that is just bombastic, like dumb not dumb story, but like overblown story anime. And then when you do something it's gonna have a massive effect on what's happening

on the screen. Right. Yeah. Yeah, it feels like the little bits that I'm playing in hell Blay too don't really factor into everything as a whole again totally, you know, having played the first one, uh and come up to now looking at this from the outside, think you think what I'm extracting is like you kind of have to like know what you're getting into and be ready for that kind of thing, right, Like you don't go to a steak steak steakhouse and then be like, I'll have a light chicken

salad, you know, like you gotta like sit down and like buckle up and be ready to expect what this game is very deliberately gonna throw at you. I don't you know. That's that's my sort of what I'm of the variability in those scores right where some people are just looking for this right,

which interesting. I think for me, the way that Microsoft was positioning this game and how kind of like important and felt to their lineup made me assume that this game would We did a lot of assuming, I to I think that that may have been the problem here, where a lot of my assumptions were like, Okay, this is going to be like a bigger, wider game, to appeal to more audiences, and like this game had a lot of presence in like what the last Summer Game Fest, the TGA isn't the

big music thing. Yeah, yeah, that was. That was during the TGAs. That was that was during the TGAs. Yeah that was. That was nuts. Like that was that was just nuts when you were high when that happens, well, obviously I don't go anywhere and not completely blitzed out of my mind, but like I remember, I was sitting next to Jake Baldino there and we were just like looking at each other, hugging each other, being like what's happening right now? And uh, you could feel the

flames. There were flames. You could feel that. And I think it's like part of that presentation that maybe have negatively colored my my view on the game before even jumping into it, is that like I'm being told that this is a very important game. This you're gonna like this, this is gonna be huge, the storytelling is gonna be amazing, it's gonna look great, and then when I'm playing through it, it's like, oh, Okay,

I guess I'm just gonna push up on the same. Yes, I think even if like we were making assumptions that were based on our own imagination with like oh, this is going to be something that stands at the top tier of gaming at the very least, I was my expectation was, and I think this is fair that they would have evolved on what they did with the first game to try to bring in a wider audience and improve them what they did the first time around, which I think as a game it was I

think everyone kind of agreed. It's like, ah, listen, you're not here for the combat, you're not here for for the puzzles. Those things kind of get in the way of what's good here. It's like, Okay, we'll make those things better this time. And it just sounds like that's

not what happened. Well, And I remember with the first one they were saying things pre released that sounded very interesting to me, like they made a big push for like, oh, you know it's gonna it is Yeah, so it's like, uh, you know, we're gonna explore you know, mental illness and a serious time. It's like, oh, that's interesting how that goes. But also they said like if you die enough times, we delete your save and they just lied about that. Yeah, I just never

was a thing. Yeah, put the kebash on that, I think. Yeah, like two things that I thought were pretty interesting pre released. The first one just I don't know, I don't I don't think it was a particularly nuanced great like look at mental health or anything. And also the cool we delete your safe thing wasn't even real. Yeah, I remember that they they did that was like a big actfinitely lost a point this for the first game. I forgot about that, You're right, Yeah, Yeah, I

don't know. I guess there's just a lot of There's a lot of stuff. Yeah, I think that's so. Yeah. I think that's where my expectations are for this one, where it's like, Okay, you made you did some talking last time, and you didn't follow through on that. Now you have a chance to like work on this game for years and have Microsoft resources. Can you follow through this time and maybe do some weird stuff that catches as off guard? And it doesn't sound like that's happening either. For

me. This game was never going to be for me. It sounds like my anytime, I'm just like I feel like I am pressing for to make a video play on the screen. I am out almost immediately, and this one sounds like the worst offender yet. Yeah, well damn, is this beginning worse for you than like the crawling scene in middle Gear Solid five. I mean, look, the crawling scene is definitely not my favorite part of Meddle Gear Solid Fire, but at least it's like, look, I'm obsessed

with middle Gear lore. So when I see shit going on, like, oh, what's with this fire man? Wait? You know it's playing Bowie music, It's like it was it was drenched and stuff that I'm into, which is just weird middle year Kajima shit versus this is a world and a story and a character that I don't care about and didn't the first time around, versus Metal Gear me having like decades of obsession with this world before,

and so like I was intrigued by what was happening. Not that like if I was the Restart band and Pain Tomorrow, I'd be like, oh, I'm really enjoying this crawling. No, But the first time I was intrigued at least where I was not here. Okay, yeah, I this feels like, uh the movie The Northman, and I thought i'd like that and I didn't like it. I've been thinking about watching that. Would I like

it. There's there's some cool spear throwing in it that sounds cool. Maybe I'm just like, you know, I'm ramping up my my Aunia tailor Joyfix to prepare for furios I got my tickets. Sure, Oh my god, I'm so excited. Yeah, grub has has any grub backlar any of our our discussion here influencing you to to rush out and play it or kind of use Yeah, I meant, I meant to play it, you know, I just you know, like life gets in the way, you know what I mean, ice pieces of ice cream gas, you know, Uh,

certainly I think I will start it. I will. I just got to see it, you know. And maybe that's the kind of like takeaway from this thing where like, you know, I don't think it. I don't think it sounds like a game that you should maybe spend money on to just try it out, right, Like to take away from this, it is on game pass, So yeah, I think I might. I I definitely mean to play it because I, like I said, played the first one. I am intrigued. I do have a soft spot for this developer.

I I you know how you feel about Heavenly Sword and honestly to the to the West, Like, obviously that's GMC. I'm a defender totally. And I just there's something about this developer that I just have like a very I'm like pot committed. There's something about it that I'm just like I want to And it sounds like they're going to be making another game that's already on its

way, so that's cool. Just maybe maybe it's not this again, maybe just maybe it's something else, you know, But yeah, I wonder I feel like you and I have a lot of similar sensibilities with games, and I is it true? Is it fair to say that, like, the more something feels like a video game, the more we like it, like the more and the less it feels like a video game and more it feels

like an interactive art piece or storytelling the medium or something like. And I think that would make people upset to be like, well, no video games could be those those things, and it's like okay, But to me, I know what I think a video game should feel like, and it's I always go to like way back to Super Mario Brothers versus Pitfall, people could be like, well, no, people could just prefer pitfalls. They like the way that feels. I'm like, yeah, but there's a reason more

people choose Super Mario Brothers. It's because it feels more honest to our expectations of the way a character should move through space. And there's something primordial about

that, and that is what I like. Video games can be universal because we all are alive and exist in a physical world that we interact with systems constantly, and I want a game to try to emulate that and play around with that space, because that's the space we don't actually get to do stuff with in real life because there's consequences of hurting yourself or spending money or whatever. And video games can play around in that space way more than any other

medium. So anytime a game feels like it's shying away from that to do something that feels like, well, we're going to be like a movie instead,

to me, it feels like a waste. Yeah. Well, even in games that aren't like purely cinematically, you know, I'm plan their wind Waker again right now, and even that I'm like, at the beginning hour, I'm like, I gotta go through this fucking Bill and talk to my Grandma's put on my clothes and shit, it's like I want to get to Like that's why I love a Dead Sales, a Mario sixty four, an Astrobot or something where it's like you're non white where you start a game and

it's just like, let's go, Okay, I'm doing I'm jumping, I'm doing stuff. Are the best, Like that's kind of what that's for us, you know, And something like this or a lot of the kind of big kind of prestige game type thing or the big sony single player stuff like it takes we can get there, but it's got to happen, and that appeals to a different audience. And I'm glad they're getting their stuff. But for me, it's not what I'm here for. Yeah, but okay,

so I so I'm mostly on the same wavelength as you both. I care very deeply about storytelling in games because I do think it has won me over in the past before in a way for me to I've just been blown away by I think you know, if you know me, you know I'm a BioShock mark for sure, Like, especially when the first game came out, what remains of you Toith Finch, I think like really affected me in a way that I was like, wow, you can do this, Like this

is possible. But as we've grown, and as our tastes have evolved, and as games have evolved in the way they kind of like present narrative, I do think, uh, in the same way that like trends age out of vogue and become you know, trite and and just sort of like,

you know, lame. Right, Like I there hasn't been, in my opinion, a big enough jump in the way those two things are married, right, Yeah, And I think and I you know, it's obviously been a topic of conversation for a while with like you're uncharted and your last of us is this and whatnot? Like certainly certainly that's swinging too far in one direction, right, So like where does it make sense? How do you

do it? That's what I'm interested to see is like being awoke, being like having that epiphany again of like man, they fucking kind of did it. And I do think there's shades of it in games in places. Yeah, right, I had that last year with Alan Wake two. Yeah, exactly that, and and look like I do I think sometimes it's swerved out of its laying a little bit, and it was just like, okay,

well we're entering like the walkie talkie kind of thing a little bit. But but yes, I agree jan like for me for my money, like as a whole package. Yes, that was that was the sort of like next

milestone, right for sure. I like it when the story is happening around you, Like I remember, really when I played the first half Life, I remember I was so taken by like you know, you'd just be walking past the room and you'd look in the window and you'd see something happening with the scientist and something's breaking intough the ceiling or whatever, and like it's like, oh shit, I just happened to be looking at that. And sure, of course they make it so you're looking at that, but like I

never felt like I was taken out of the game. And I yes, I realized how hypocritical this is as someone who's obsessed with metal, you'r solid the most. Put down your controller and let me talk to you game ever, But that's an anomaly. But I like it when the story is happening around the game and you can choose to partake in as much little as you want, yeah, or Metric Prime excuse me, not for but yeah,

sure, yeah, yeah, we've been playing of course. Yeah. I think for me, when I start thinking about like where does this go and what is like the default, I think like story feels like when you go in that direction, there's a you have options. But I think it's like you're gonna see trends like, hey, we are going to be like a

Prestige movie. Are we gonna we are gonna be more like Prestige TV, And that'll kind of come and go in waves, Whereas I think there's something more timeless in my opinion about a game that just goes and lets you lets you be free and if there's a story, you're experiencing it like like as an ambient factor like you were talking about Dan, And I think like there's a reason we had Zelda go from the legend of Zelda on the nes and kind of return to that just go be free in the world with Breath of

the Wild, Yes, and it felt like, oh okay, no, they got back to where they need to be. This is they got sidetracked by a lot of other stuff and they pigeonholed themselves and now we're back to a point where it's just go and play the game and experience this playbox or the sandbox that we set up for you, and that felt more rewarding to

me in the long run. Yeah. Yeah, if I were to research Breath of the Wild right now, I would be having fun way faster than I would in like a game that's also one of the best, like Okerina of Time. You start Aquarina, and every time I started, I'm like, all right, and listen to this fucking tree talk about Perry's for a while, you know, like where's breadth the Wild is? Hey, go have fun? Yep, yeah, it's And I think it's a default for

me. I think that's like we will always come back to that point in between those those like that, like that default, we will say, okay, let's try this with story. We're inspired by this, And I think that's completely fine. Of course, the game game developers could do whatever they

want with that stuff. Yeah, I think, you know, for and I think most normal people, which we're dying breed, but I do think like you sort of just have to like let things happen to you, right like play what seems interesting and do what you feels right and always getting a shot, and we're gonna be different moods all the time, right, We're gonna want something different every once in a while, for sure. Totally for me, Like I you know, I'm always drawn by an aesthetic. I'm

always drawn to a specific sort of aesthetic that like pulls me in. And maybe that's the first seal that gets broken, and then from there on it's like, oh, you know what, this wound up being like a really great story with you know, a great game play. You have you have to be able to take a few boxes, right, You can't just lean into one lane and just sort of have that be the only thing you're really excelling at. But yeah, this is, uh, this is good conversation.

I'm glad this game it's good to hit now. To have like this kind of reaction to I Like, I think it's fucking awesome that reviews are like one hundred. Oh yeah, Like I think that's I think that's crazy because most big releases now, it's like they're all going to be kind of within that like one point five you know Metacritic, you know, sick, Yeah, like very well respected outlets like one hundred, very well respected Outlets fifteen and you're like, wow, that's all over the place. What's going

on here? Yeah, anyone who's into it, maybe I'm happy for it, absolutely yeah, not for me. Yeah, we're not yucking anyone's gums here. No, No, don't yuckr yums. Also, I exactly yeah, I think Backler, you're your point of like I had the wrong assumptions going into this game is one hundred percent spot on. Uh, because like when I go into a visual novel game, I know what to expect.

I don't think. May also, maybe because of my lack of familiarity with the series, I didn't know what to expect with Send You with Saga. The whole time. I was expecting a bunch of rats to come up. But I think I was confusing this game with a Plague's tail requiem No or Willard. Sure, yeah of course, but man Plague's tail, I can get down with that. Shoot me a bunch of rats. That ship was dope. Games do occupy a similar space in my brain as well. Yeah,

yeah, uh, Send You with Saga Hell Blade two. It's on game Pass. If you have Game Pass, go check that out, or don't check it out, go go check out Mister Mosquito for the PS. Just just download it and it folks. We're gonna take quick quick break and we'll be back with video game news and an in depth spoiler cast for mister Mosquito. What was that was that talk with the family. It's ladies and gentlemen and non binaries. I want to start this news segment by informing everyone

that Charles Xavier is a fucking terrible person. Yeah, listen, he's Professor X men related x men really professor X Professor X Professor X fucking sucks and he's always sucked. Cyclops is still cool anyway. Jeff Grub the News, Yeah, what a weird segue. No, no, no, there wasn't really a segue there, which is a declarative statement. I have news in front of me. Let's start here with this thing that kind of popped off after we started the show, I think, or at least I didn't see

it until afterward. Looks like ig In Entertainment is acquiring Eurogamer, Games Industry Dot Biz excuse me, VG twenty four to seven, Rock, Paper, Shotgun, and more. As part of this acquisition, there will be redundancies made, so people are going to be losing their jobs at UK based organizations. According to Christopher Dring, who is the head of games B to B and publishing over there at the Gamers Network, Hey yeah, more sort of

like media consolidation, people getting laid off. It's wild out there. I kind of don't know what to make of this, other than I know I knew Gamers the Gamer Network was like looking for someone to acquire them for quite some time. Yeah, are they Have they said anything about whether they're planning unfolding people under the IGN banner or if they're trying to keep them operating under their own names. Okay, I think they're going to try to keep them

operating under their own names. For the most part, Gamers and Gamer Networks publications are games interested? Up? Is Eurogamer, Rock Paper, Shocking, VG twenty four to seven and dice Breaker the business Also, Yeah, they looks like they're just saying right now that they are going to bring those brands under this this Igen Entertainment umbrella that includes IGN, Map, Genie, How

Long to Beat. I didn't know they own that either an Humble bundle, So yeah, it sounds like they're going to add more to their roster, doesn't necessarily sound like they're going to shut those sites down immediately or anything like that. But this is never a great sign because you know, these companies

lose interest over time and someone could be left out to dry. But also, you know, it was getting hard out there for websites like this because of the changes made to Google recently and search engine optimization that's left a lot

of these sites reeling anyhow, So it's not been great out there. This is not going to be some worse fate necessarily, Yeah, it's just God, I just worry about our peers across the industry and then correct Also, just like you know, the amount of different voices in the space dramatically getting

cut down, yep. I mean historically there are always so few full time positions writing about or talking about video games, even you know, going back to the nineties, and like that has shrunk so dramatically in recent areas. So like, yeah, anytime you hear about consolidation or just less opper these less openings that that does suck. Yeah, apparently not included in this is a video video games chronicle who I used constantly for news. I think they're

the best site for video game news. I don't necessarily know what their relationship was with the Gamer Network because it was I don't think they ever fully owned VGC, but there was a partnership there. So maybe that partnership is not going to continue, is what they're trying to say here. Either way, I hope DGC is able to continue. I hope all these sites are able to keep on as much staff as possible. It's it's a weird one though, And it's like, man, that IGN still owned by Ziff Davis.

Ziff Davis still out there making acquisitions. I had to say that one. Yeah, yeah, Like what else do they do? Well? They were they like when I started at snet that the building that CNET's offices were in on twenty eighth in par And that building used to work at it was called the Zif Davis building. And I guess like PC PC mag was there. Okay, here's I'm on zip Davis's website now, sorry, go ahead,

Okay, Yeah. So I I feel like, and again I could be misremembering, but I feel like the answer to me was always like like, oh, the question being like, how is Zif Davis still this like dark puppet master for media? And it's like there's some I remember the answer always being like, well, they have this like very monopolistic B to B thing that like everyone relies on. And I don't remember any other like specificity there. I'm looking at their current portfolio on their website here, so gaming and

entertainment. They've got IGN, Humble and Humble Games Technology. They own Mashable, PC mag Performance Marketing, ZIF Davis, and Aberdeen Strategy. They also Oukla. Why do I know KLA people? Yeah? Yeah, okay, so okay, so that runs the speed data down detector. They have down detector metrics retail me not the promo code excite baby dot com operas dot Com Baby Center. Of course, all the stars are here, Oh, Cybersecurity, Strong, VPN, mar Tech, they Wow. They have a lot

of brands and they just got some more. It seems also shut down a lot of bad Yes, oh yes, yes, I mean that's the thing, right, Like, no acquisition unfortunately finishes without and that definitely hit here. Yes, and and and again these companies weren't in great shape. They they had been laying people off before they got acquired, but that you know,

getting acquired was not going to slow that down. And definitely is going to cause some redundancies here where it's like we don't need you, so that doesn't make sense to keep you. And that's always the challenge with the acquisitions. Yeah, I hope these sites are able to keep going. I've visited all of these properties before, h I've used all their news before on Gameless Mornings things like that. So we don't need an industry where we have even

fewer people covering games in a serious way. And that that's also across Europe as well, right right, I worry about how this hurts the industry over there as well. Still around Edge is still publishing a magazine every month. Oh yeah, keep that. Yeah they just get that. Yeah, they just did a really good cover. I can't remember what it was, but I'm like, oh, I kind of want to get that. Yeah, they're still doing that. I hope they are able to keep doing that exactly.

Yeah, this is the kind of thing where it's it's a down period in twenty twenty four. You know, if these companies had been able to like maybe last until twenty twenty five, they probably could have got a better price or dictated terms a little bit better. Because it's just going to be kind of like advertising revenue is down across the board for everyone and it's not bouncing back very speedily. So that definitely is what hurt these companies. Okay,

let's see here. Let's get to the news I had written down here in two agrees to deal to buy Hogwarts Legacy Mortal Kombat Switch port Studio. This is here, let's start hearing. Nintendo intends to finalize the acquisition of Miami based Shiver Entertainment, the developer behind many significant Nintendo Switch ports. Nintendo announced it has agreed with Shiver's current owner, Embracer Group, to acquire one hundred percent of the company's outstanding shares, making it a fully owned subsidiary.

Since twenty twelve, Shiver has worked on porting and developing software for the Switch, such as Hogwarts Legacy and Mortal Kombat eleven. Nintendo aims to secure high

level resources reporting and developing software titles by acquiring Shiver's experience development team. That's probably what is going to continue happening here is Shiver, at the very least is very familiar with the technology that Nintendo uses to make the Switch and what is required to port games to that platform, and the likely scenario here is Nintendo makes Shiver available to major third parties so they could port their games.

Yes, that the Mortal Con I'm bad Switch version. I remember thinking like, how the fuck is this going to work? And like, I like the way they did it, and because like instead of just trying to make it, you know, the high fidelity and just chugging frame rate wise and everything, it's clearly like less detailed. It doesn't look as good, but it ran pretty well. I remember like being very surprised by that. So

I don't know, that seems promising to me. Yep, I mean and really, anyone getting those games to run on switch in any way is like, okay, you your magicians, So you clearly know something, even if it's not the best way to play those games, which oblieves obviously it is. And uh and Mortal komont eleven's ports more Commont eleven on Switch wasn't as bad as like Mortal Kombat one. That one was really ritten by some one. Yeah eleven is the one I'm talking about. Yeah right, yes,

exactly, so, and that was that was actually pretty impressive. I don't know, yeah, go ahead, Uh do you do you see this as Nintendo figuring out a way to pad out the rest of their year until like the Switch two comes out of Like it might be hard to like rely on them to do something that's that quickly. Sure, Hey, you guys want to make a Metroid, We got this prime for over here if you want to finish that up. Yeah, no one's working on it, it's just

sitting on a shelf. Yeah. I think this is probably like the likely scenario here is they will have them build out official tools that become part of the Nintendo Switch to development Kit that make it a lot easier to port games from X eighty six to what the switch uses, which is, you know, an arm based Nvidia processor, And then the team will be there like as a support staff for these teams, or in some cases, this team will just straight up take a game that is on another platform that's big and

do all of the work to get it ported over to a Nintendo platform. You know that they'll only be able to do so much of that at any one time, so don't expect like every major game to hit the switch to. But I think, you know something, there's a world in which, like Nintendo's like it probably does benefit us to have grand Theft Auto six on the Switch to at some point maybe this helps facilitate something like that, and that's something that like Iron Alex, he was doing a lot of Iron Gaxy

is a is definitely a port studio. That's one of their main work for hire programs. Yes, absolutely nice. Yeah they're not the like the only one in that space. A Panic Button is another one that does a lot of huge ports to the Switch. They did like Rocket League and a bunch of others. And there's a team that did who did a Saber Interactive did the Witcher and that that was impressive, and that's another team that's now on

their own out of Embracer. Also, the studio probably wasn't like some massive acquisition. They were probably pretty pretty small, and that seems to be where Nintendo's at with acquisitions, where it's like, if it's a small team that serves a strategic purpose, they'll go ahead and make that move. But recently for Akawa, the president of Nintendo said that they have no intention of like fully getting into the we're acquiring everything sort of mindset. So this doesn't speak

to that. This is right in line with what they've been doing with their money when they when they have the opportunity to make a purchase for a relatively small amount of money. All Right, Rockstar in Take two have given a timeline for Grand Theft Auto six. It is scheduled to release in the fall of twenty twenty five, as confirmed by Take two's financial report for the fiscal

year of twenty twenty four. The game's trailer, released in December, amassed over one hundred and ninety million views, surpassing the lifetime views of GTA five's debut trailer. The trailer also revealed the game setting in Vice City and introduced

a pair of protagonist. Take two CEO Straus and Zelnik express confidence in a meeting that announced the launch window for Grand Theft Auto six, Despite acknowledging potential for slippage in the industry, he emphasized the focus on creating an unprecedented experience with Rockstar Games, striving for perfection. Yeah, but he says, they're confident that the game will actually launch in the second half, Oh, in fall of twenty twenty five. Yeah, a big game coming at some point.

There there was a time where this game is expected to launch before March of next year. Now it's going to be you know, sometime probably like October November of next year. You guys, think you're going to actually be playing this game next fall? Come on, if we do. Maybe it's a thing where like online is fully launched in like the spring, you know, sure, Yeah, it's like all right, we got a campaign or

got the story mode ready to go. But yeah, because remember five with online Online had rough Yeah yep, yeah, I mean that's part of that was like they just didn't believe it online until it launched it became massively popular. Yeah, they might know what they're doing over there, so yeah,

huh, take your time, guys. Yeah, yep. I think that's the likeliest thing here is that they're going to get to there and they're like, if we took a little bit more time, it'll be that much better and that'll be worth it because it is totally gonna make its money back. This is like the one guarantee exactly. This is the only short thing in

video games. Yep. So you know, and I guess, I you know, I guess because of that, you can ask the question of like why even just have this thing, Like why even have this like completely unpredictable roadmap, Like what what in service of what their earnings were. They're like either revenue or their profits were down pretty like in a pretty harsh way this

last quarter. And uh, they once said they were expecting eight and you know, they're telling investors, hey, we're expecting to make eight billion dollars in revenue, and now they've they've wound that down to like five billion. So they have to like give investors like, okay, yeah, well clearly we've moved or moved up Grand Theft Auto, which we once thought was going to launch in this fiscal year, but we're promising it's going to come out

next year, So please don't freak out and sell your stock. Right, But like that's my point. It's the one thing that's like to me, this information is more or less like built into the market. Oh yeah. But so it's like investors are so stupid. They're like just worried about them gets getting scared and running away like, oh, it's not coming out next fiscal year either, I'm panicking and selling, right, there's there is the

chance for that. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. I don't know, man, I just feel Yeah, it's again, it's an anomaly, this franchise. So it gets like this weird special treatment. But yeah, what is like, It's like, this is clearly the behemoth. Is this game on the horizon? Like what is number two? Switch to? I mean software? Yeah, like an individual game, oh, Elder Scrolls. I mean maybe so nebulous at this point, but like, yeah, that

is an announced title. That's probably the second biggest thing I'm gonna say. Mario Wow is like I feel like it's a known quantity. I mean, Mario doesn't sell like Skyrim numbers? Does it? The last one? It did? Mario Oyssey stold like where I would get to like thirty million copies of the last mainline? Well yeah, yeah, mainline of course. I'm like, yeah, that's what I meant. What do you think I'm in?

Like, were you talking about Dan? I wonder well yeah, the side Ones Dance right, Oh my god, Dan was talking about Juty. Mario games are like some of some of the best selling games of all time, even like the new Super Mario Brothers games. I'm not I'm in like an Odyssey two or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sign Mari. I'm not playing this game. I'm having a normal conversation. Yep. And

you know, fuck is wrong? Early morning? Uh, Morning Drive DJ over here is fucking firing off a soundboard like some freak from the nineties to get your question, like, what is after grand Theft thought of six? What is there? I mean the answer is it's a Call of duty again, like as depressing as that is really, like like a FIFA mad Oh sorry, we didn't mean to attack your baby back baby. Look, Nicki Minaj change everything. Sure, she changed the game. There's a there's a

clear line in the sand that's been drawn. We're living in a post Nicki Minaj world in Call of Duty, Folks, be a part of it. Yeah, I mean I think when I I like Star Wars Outlaws looks promised to me, that's like so far away from what these games are. Yeah, all right, let's see here to your wider point, though, Dan,

that is what the industry started waiting for. Investors are like, you know, once GTA six is here and once switched to is here, we'll feel better about things again, and that's when people will probably let off some of the pressure on the end industry. But that's kind of grim until then, So we'll see, all right. Two K will reveal a sequel to one of its biggest and Most Beloved Franchises next month at some sabatur Right, that's got to be the saboteur that're referring to, right, and yeah,

biggest most beloved franchise is how they described it. It'll be at Summer Game Fest on Friday, June seventh. What is your guys' initial reaction besides the obvious answer of the saboteur that's right. Yeah, it feels like a two K game. I get what you're saying. Have they announced that BioShock No, so, BioShock seems like the most like it's gonna be Borderlands. Okay, everyone sit down and relax, don't mafia. No, it's not no. Here I am with the BioShock take. I just think, like selfishly,

this is just about me. I'm only gonna talk from my position, in my position alone, the way my relationship with BioShock. I can't have a BioShock four from the two Like, which two K team is gonna make? It was like, I can't, I can't remember Laren Man Boston,

what is that irrational? No, well it's shut down. You're gonna have You're gonna have BioShock four maybe, and then you're gonna have Judas, and I'm just gonna be there's just gonna be that we're looking at a potential that situation, and I'm and I just I think that I'm sure someone's thought about it, but I haven't heard anyone say it out loud yet. Yeah, I mean, like Judas is a is BioShock? Right? Like oh yeah,

I mean, like come on, so like that's all. I just want to say that out loud, and I want to get everyone's take, you know. Yeah, I mean I think that BioShock will be able to have its own place because it's got that brand familiarity, and Judas will have to be a really good game to get attention. But there's chance that could

do that. Uh, it's probably BioShock. I think there's a chance that it's Civilization seven because that's actually bigger than all those games, uh and also beloved in a way where, uh, it's more beloved than those games. Actually when you talk about talk to that audience, but this feels like when they're saying this sort of thing, uh, they're speaking to a certain audience. It's probably expecting Bioshocks or or you know, it's real hot right now.

Is class based shooters maybe it's time to bring out the battle Born battle Born hand bloodies again. Yeah, the real hobby grade games are back now, all right, let's go. My money's on BioShock for this one. I would bet on BioShock. I'm going to keep betting on odd ones. Duke Nukem, it's gonna be Duke that they're gonna try that at some point they do. There's a young Duke that was in development for a little bit,

like a Young Sheldon, but was happening a long time ago. God, my parents watch Young Sheldon like it's something to do, and I'm just like disappointment viewing, Buddy. I just it's just that show is apparently so popular. I don't get it. And so TV is so fucking insane right now. I don't understand what's happening. Let us pitch a show. Wait.

So like, also, my parents, not to make it about my parents, but they're out for the day, so I could scream as loud as I walked and fuel these guys, these these too, they fucking watch Everybody Loves Raymond on dude, some network, some TV network, and these people are sitting there from like four pm to seven pm watching these reruns and they are getting served all the commercials, and I'm just like, I don't understand what's happened? What is it with old people? And everybody loves Raymond

because like when it was airing, it's my grip for them. My show's not bad, but like my grandpa loved it so much. Ye Danny like that you watch the Raymond Show? And I was like no. He literally said, there's something wrong with your brain. The brain Garrett Peter Boyle, like, you know, I get it, like getting you, yeah, Raymond that here, Yeah, I know, watch out, watch out everyone. That was just less than five seconds. But I think it's just like,

I don't know why you're watching so many commercials? Why are you watching so many commercials? Why are you watching so many commercials too? Is that a thing with your parents? Oh? Your generation doesn't watch commercials because my dad will be like, oh, it's like that one commercial for car shields. Like, I don't know what you're talking about it right, you watch commercial Jesus. Yeah, your dad has like a masculinity weirdness. They don't

know there's that, but my parents are. I just don't understand. Like I talked to my sit him down once a week and we talk about this and he's like, I'm gonna try and do better. But it doesn't. It doesn't manifest into any forward moving progress. All the good news is all these video game companies are considering putting commercials in the video games, so we never thing for Connect. I was excited about donald to keep playing the game.

You stand up in Neil McDonald's I was fucking ready for that. I do that anyway. Yeah, that's just a burst forward. I can't control myself break out. It's like somebody said, mister mosquito all right's move was what was that headline? When? Sorry? Sorry keyboard. Valves next game, a hero shooter called Deadlock, has seemingly leaked images of what is reportedly Valve's next game called Deadlock, are circulating on social media. It appears to

be a six v six hero shooter with tower defense mechanics. It's like it's an Overwatch mobile basically mobile Watch mobile watch. Because that I don't know. At a certain point, if you just like, well we got to make a game, this is what you come up with this Valve. I know that they also have Team Fortress, yeah, but they can't make Team Fortress three because then I'm noticing. I'm noticing this is not Half Life three? What's that? Yeah? Again, they just can't go to a third game,

so they had to make a new one. Uh yeah, I don't know. Yeah, Monday Night Combat. Is it like that? It definitely looks a lot like Overwatch or I guess Valorant. I'm just surprised there's not a game called Deadlocke already. Yeah, Ratchet and you think the podcast boys are gonna suit? Yeah? Yeah, right now? Oh yeah tm tm tmh yeah. I mean, hey, good good luck. It's Valve. They can make good games, and if it's on Steam's front page, a

lot of people are going to see it. But that didn't help Artifact. So I'm sorry. What Yeah, Artifact video game that once existed. Okay, I could make up games. Yeah, well we'll see. I don't know this, but think I was telling Tam when we were talking about this, there's nothing about this is moving me. Nothing about this is getting like, Yeah, it's not moving me. That's what I would say about that. Yes, uh, okay, up next, Xbox will apparently make changes

to the game pass model when it adds Call of Duty. It's claimed Xbox is reportedly planning to make changes to its game Pass subscription model when the next Call of Duty game is released. The inclusion of Call of Duty and game Pass is expected to bring more subscribers to the service, and Xbox may use this opportunity to refresh the structure of game Pass. Insider Shunobi six zero two confirm that there will be changes to game Pass, but did not specify what

they will be. What do you guys think they could change to get more out of game Pass? I suppose the obvious thing is upprice increase, right, just don't do the confusing tiered sony thing. Sony thing is still a nice it still sucks, Like, just don't do that like that that was That was part of what made game Pass so enticing. Is like, here's the thing, you subscribe to it. I know they split it with PC and console and stuff like that, but it's one price you get all this

shit. And the sony thing has been a mess since you know, PS plus expanded, So I just don't want more of that at I think that's exactly where they're headed. That's like what else I mean again, let's try and I want to get too creative here at least name it better then yeah, or make it more Yeah, certainly, tiers is an option they haven't done. They leveled the playing field a while back. So yeah, they have game passing, game Pass Ultimate, and Ultimate comes with the online multiplayer

and stuff and PC. And it sounds like most people subscribe to that tier because most people want to be able to play games online, so that gets the Xbox Live. So they just do that. So they're probably looking at that bottom tier and like, what can we do to sort of either force even more people to step up to Ultimate or to make this one make more sense. I think they would do like like X like game Pass, Activision

game Pass. Yeah, that one. That one feels rough because it's like, I think the whole appeal of a subscription service is you get the subscription service and you see, look at all these brands under these all. Yeah, they're all right here. I feel like so much more. I'm paying once and I'm getting all these things. Yeah, I don't I don't know,

I don't know. I think the most extreme thing they could do is take day one games out of game Pass and put them only an Ultimate, So that means if you want to get Call of Duty you got to pay up to seventeen dollars per month to just gate the timed right, So there's a there's you know, there's a vault of games on the bas tier and

then day one goes up to the next tier. I think the other most extreme thing, like the secondary most extreme, would be a new cheaper tier five dollars per month that is supported by ads where you watch like a commercial before you get the drop. They're they're going to do the prime thing or no, it's peacock when you pause your game, uh and AD pops up. That's there's worse, and there's worse like and yeah, but Dan, you're you're making room for that. You'realizing it will get worse. I mean

a manufacturing consent ADS while I'm paused is less intrusive than other options. You know, I'm not screen Yeah, yeah, you know it's a pixel savers. What that is? I couldn't unpause until three minutes of ads played? Wait? What what if you couldn't unpause your game until three minutes of AD That sucks. I'm just like, I don't think there's no way. I think that there's a slippery yell. McDonald's so fucking loud. Okay, yeah,

I will bellow McDonald's until the console fears. I will door dash McDonald's even if I'm not hungry. Well, now that you've put it like that, Grub, I could see a future where it's like, hey, you gotta you gotta sit through a minute of ads before you boot up this game that don't don't just yeah, it will start. What's what's happening with the Prime Video right now? Oh, it's one little ad for something that's already

on Amazon Video. And then it's like, well, here's an ad for something that's on Amazon and now here's two minutes of ads, and they're promising it's gonna it's gonna ramp up and get even more intrusive. I mean this is like kind of across entertainment right now, right all the streaming stuff is getting way more like so many more tears, so many more just like okay, get this bundle, you know, the whole gaming cable again type thing.

It's like we really did have a heyday where it's like we had Netflix and Hulu for a while on the entertainment streaming stuff, and then like Game Pass and PS plus for a little bit and then everything just gets so much more confusing and expensive. Yep. Yeah, and it's it's just gonna sort of like go back to this default state of what We're not going to say no to the advertising revenue, so we're gonna jam it in here anywhere we

can. And uh yeah, and I think games seem like they're doing for something similar, although you know, the good news is gamers don't take the stuff well, so there would be a massive backlash, and these companies are actually afraid of that. So maybe Dan's the only one welcoming this. Yell McDonald's man, so I'm stopping you from yelling MCDI. Yeah, I would, honestly, I think I would rather have a product placement. I'd rather

have like without it. Yeah, more Obama billboards and you know, like give me like call of duties, like you know, give me targets presents, call of duty like fine, like do that, give like sell the naming rights. I don't get skins in all video games. I'd wear that crazy. Yeah, no, there'd be so many people buying targets skins. And yes, of course it's like a red shirt with a like oh my god, I to Jake from State Form Yeah, look at me. I'm

a punkin spice latte from Starbucks. I would buy that. Yeah, did want Karate Sheep in Fortnite? If anyone's listening, he took over He took over your your Twitter account to say that karate. You know, we have a friend who works for Epic and he thinks that like he like owns Epic. He thinks he like makes Fortnite and he just sits at like a Matrix computer command center and he's just like, I will now put you know, Garfield in Fortnite with a push of a button. So he's like, hey,

can you tell him to put Karate Sheep in Fortnite? How do I is that like karate sheet? So great question. Karate Sheep. As far as I understand, it is a French animated cartoon on Netflix that is just like sort of run a Roadrunner, Coyote Shenaniganska. It's just it's it's mostly harmless. It's it's kind of like Grizzly, you know, Grizzy and the and the the the Lemmings, you know that show on Netflix as well.

Sure, it's more just like you know, Coyote versus Roadrunner ship. He still has the same jaws, No Dan and yeah, it's very Ohio Christian. Ohio comes out of this kid's mouth more than any other word aside from Ohio. No. He's just like he's like, oh he's a going to Ohio. Bet Im just like like like that's like it's like whatever, man, you just sound dumb, you know, like I don't care. I get it. I know I sounded dumb when I was nine, but like

you sound dumb. Yeah, anyway, I can't remember. Did Dave get onto a sketch with a what's up? Brothers? Yeah? He's like, it's it's Tuesday, brother brother Hell yeah. Anyway, karate Sheep, I said to him, I said, I said, I said, did like Karate Sheep? That branch is not big enough to find it went to Fortnite Like you think it could stand next to Lady Gaga. I think it's stand

next to these kind of like monoliths of pop culture. Anyway, he wanted to put out the messages, said here, type what you want and I'll just hit send. There you go. All right, Well, good luck with that. Did I'm gonna I'm gonna sue Karate Sheep gimmick infringement with a red beanie. I don't like this. Oh there's Oh that's right, Jan. You might have a case on your hands, but I look like I'm cosplaying as karate sheep right now. It's it's pretty funny, Like it's pretty

good. He's got like a decent taste. There's a higher likelihood that I think Blue would get at it to Fortnite. Oh for sure he belongs and for now should be holding out a sniper but banded behind that thing. No, Jen, you and I both know what franchise is well overdue to be inserted into Fortnite. Come on, No, Hocky In the venn diagram of things that you and I overlap in is hockey in the middle? Coffee? No? How can coffee be has new hats? You know? May bald?

Jen? What franchise? What cartoon network? Franchise? Regular Show? Where? Why can I not go around as Pops Victor? Come on? Like, what are we doing? What are we doing? Put it in there? Man? Do kids care about rent and Simpy? No? Regular Show is is like born from it. I can't get a lot like it's it is. It's just another evolution of it that I would buy the crap out of a Hannah Barbara pack. Yeah, I mean like and also like I don't know, Aquatine should be in Fortnite too, Like where we put

that fucked up buggy that talks. Yeah? Yeah, oh god, the shark thing. Oh my god. Yeah, they got that racing game in there. Yeah. Let me be scrappy do and I could be like odd drop in Golden Eye. I would buy I would buy a Harvey Birdman skin in Fortnite instantaneously. Yeah. They can get Colbert do the voice again, that'd be great. Uh Gary Cole is uh is Harvey Boss? Was the Boss? Right? Seven? Okay, let's see here where did I leave

off Xbox from? Yes? Okay. Xbox has reportedly green lighted Ninja Theory's next game. Xbox has reportedly approved the next game from helbla developer Ninja Theory. There are no plans to close Cambridge UK, the Cambridge, UK based studio which Microsoft acquired in twenty eighteen. Now I'll say, like, that doesn't mean anything. No, that doesn't mean anything. They could decide they could change their mind at any moment, and I don't know if there's I

mean, there's no guarantee. I feel like Microsoft could give a studio right now that make them feel one hundred percent secure. So this like them even having a green lighted project going forward doesn't really change the fact that it seems like any studio could be on the chopping block going forward. But it's better than not having a game green lighted, I would say, So there's some

good news there. What do you guys want from this studio? Next man, there was just a something about then we just do that that I've maybe I've read ahead in the news story. So we were just like we're saying, like what they've done in the past that we like, But I mean, now there's an opportunity to be like, okay, we're past tell Blade two. Do you want them to go back to something familiar? I mean, I don't know if I wanted them to go back to something familiar,

but certainly I think Dan would agree. It sounds like we look at their you know, pedigree with a fonder sort of memory, right, So I think a more action forward thing would be would be pretty sick, you know. And I think they have amazing artists there and let's just let's just get let's let's get crazy, you know. Ask Andy sarkis to do some fucking ship. I don't know. Have my sword Sony owned it all? Or

is that just exclusive? I don't think it was. I think it was a it was a p S three, it was an exclusive, But I don't know if Sony owned the I P or if it was just I don't know, and I don't I don't know if are you getting out like a heavenly Sword two? Is that what you're saying? No? No, I'm just trying to think other stuff they've done. I didn't super love that enslaved the game rules. Why don't we have a planet? A good planet of

the Apes? Game? Easy? Easy? Jen? I watched the third one in the New trilogy or yes, yes, yeah yeah man, that movie had me just like doing like this to the Apes. I'm like, yeah, y'all should win Apes together? Wrong? Yeah, I like that one especially all right. More Xbox games reportedly could come to PS five as part of Microsoft's Latitude project. Basically, this is an initiative to look at

every single game to potentially bring to PS five. There is a like sort of fuzzy red line around some stuff like Halo, but even those those games like Sati Nadella is like, no, we don't want any red line. Everything should be up for grabs to go to to PlayStation. So that conversation is ongoing. But the very least they have this project that is, hey, everything is now, maybe going over to PS five. God playing Halo with a PlayStation controller would feel weird. As I was playing on Xbox Elite

and I was like, this feels fucked up. Imagine the weirdest one. Although I guess you could play Halo on PC, so you could plug in a PlayStation controller now, but sure was crazy. Yes, yeah, mouse and keyboard right there. Redfall will receive its offline up update. Arcane Austin's final update for the for Red Fall will introduce offline play, revamped neighborhood in

nests systems, and single player pausing, an incredible feature. The decision to release the update comes despite Microsoft's recent announcement of the studio's closure, So it sounds like what happened here is there was enough of a backlash. They're like, I guess we should finish this so the game can be playable offline, because previously you're gonna need a connection to a server and there's just no way that was going to last for very long after this, I mean probably years,

but in the grand scheme of things, that's not too long. So this update will now make the game playable completely offline. And it's nice that they're getting out there, but it just reminds me of, Hey, they're closing down Arcane Austin, and that sucks. Yeah, oh god, for this to be the last thing you work on, yep. Yeah, and then then you just got to walk out the door and the studio's done. So yeah, that stinks that that's how it's going down. Total Wars Star

Wars is reportedly in development at Creative Assembly. Creative Assembly is reportedly developing a Star Wars game, which is one of three Total War games that are in develop element as of October twenty twenty three. SEGA normally releases a new Total War game annually, with the last exceptions being twenty twenty one and twenty fourteen. Creative Assembly has done a lot of these Total war games. They were

also making that Hyenas Shooter and that got shut down. They're no longer working on that, but from what I've heard, they've been working on this Total War Star Wars game for at least like the last year or so, so that would mean it's still pretty early in development. But I think this is a good fit. Oh my god, a Star Wars RTS. That sounds really cool. Yeah. Has that happened at something? It's happened a couple of times. There's Star Wars Empire at War and they're Star Wars Rebellion or

something like that. I think they're both real time strategy and not turn based. But yeah, they were like in the heyday of those games. Careers got quite a bit of fondness for those games, especially Empire at War, and I think with this one they're like, we'll try to capture some of that, but it's going to be a total war game. But Total War is a great fit for that because if you just have like squadrons of stormtroopers and so that sounds it couldome Yeah, it sounds really good, So I'm

hopeful. Yeah, this sounds really cool. Yeah, well, we'll see, like if they get around to announce it anytime soon. Again, it sounds like it's very early, but uh, I don't know anyone that really plays Total War. Are those supposed to be pretty good right now? Yes, they've been good for twenty years ish and they're they're still very good. People really like them. It's like, uh, you're not commanding whole armies. You're not and you're not commanding like just a little platoon like in Company

of Heroes. It's like a large squadron or something like that where you're gonna have a couple of hundred units and then you're gonna go into a battle with them, and it's, uh, it's pretty cool. Just it's like slow moving so you can like adjust your strategies on the fly and then it all happens on screen in front of you. It's it's a really cool series. There's a reason there's been so many of them. Like, I'll have to check it out. That sounds really cool. Yoko Taro's new game might be

near, and it might not be Near. Scoring executive shut Up Joyce case side Tooe and Near series director Yoko Taro are collaborating on a new product. Composer kg okabeuh Psyto mentioned the project during the discussion with former Capcom producers. Details are scamped, but Cyto hinted that it may or may not be related to the Near series. That means it's near, right, why would you say this, if it's not near, Yeah, I think it's not near.

You say it's not near r exactly, And listen, I think there's a possibility that it's like near related and maybe they go back to Dragon Guard or they do some new spin off. But I think it's related to Near in some way. That's what the say. I need to know if there was did was Yokotaro? Did he have a little smile on his face after he said this? Well, Yokataro was as always wearing his giant like moon man helmet, whatever the hell that thing is. What did the vibe feel

like? Then under the smile, the smile on the face of what you were suggesting, that was the vibe. Okay, so we'll say near, Yeah, probably gonna probably gonna be near. We'll see. Uh, this is this is a fun one. Masa hero. Soakarai refused to add Dolby Surround to a Kirby game because players had to sit through the logo Oh yes, yes, what a hero. Sakurai, the creator of Kirby and the director of the Smash Brothers series, once removed to Dolby Surround from a game

because the logo would have added extra waiting time for the player. During a live stream celebrating the tenth anniversary of the Arcade Archive series, Sakarai emphasized the importance of reducing loading times, arguing that players should be able to jump from

one game to another quickly. To illustrate his point, he revealed that Kirby Air Ride was originally supposed to have Dolby Surround audio, but he decided to remove it because it would have required showing the Dolby logo at the start of the day. Sky look as YouTube videos. He's got like his setup with all his consoles. You could tell this is someone making games who plays a lot of video games, and he's like, I hate that, let me just play my game. So he just took it out of his game.

That rules. Amazing. What a baller, Yeah, what a hero. And then finally the Assassin's Creed Shadows got announced. It's coming out November fifteenth.

It'll be everywhere. It's got the dual protagonists, the Yoske who is a samurai, and then there is a now now A I believe, and she is going to be more of the stealth assassin ninja style, and they're promising to support both to the point where the stealth action will have a light meter and you'll be able to take out lights to create more darkness and say, all right, that stuff sounds cool to me. I just hear so when I hear that, yeah, but I love that shit, that's for

me. Yes, yep, give me that. I'm very excited for Assassin's Creed, and I did think i'd say that sentence in twenty twenty four. Me neither. I'm getting pretty excited about this one the more I see it. I'm not going to be ever be a person who's going to play every Assassin's Creed or even most of them, but checking in every four to five years I usually end up having an okay time, and if I bounce off, it's like, well, I know there's gonna be another one, so

that's fine. My favorite thing in seeing the parts of the internet freak out about Assassin's Creed Shadows and being upset about it and you know, putting their whole asshole out there on the internet. You're seeing the counterpoints and seeing stuff in Valhalla that had no idea was there of Like, oh, I guess you just fight a giant Egyptian crocodile god. Yep, at some point that's pretty cools historically accurate. We're upset about this franchise not being historically accurate about

me after I fight this giant crocodile. God. Okay, cool. And of course, of course they're not actually upset about any of that. It's all just a work so they can get mad about the thing they're actually mad about. Last story here, real quick. London Studio has officially been closed. Sony Interactive Entertainment's PlayStation London Studio has officially closed its doors. Found it

in two thousand and two and based in Soho, London. The first party studio worked out on the Getaway series and was responsible for the sing Star franchise. And now they've officially been shut down. Yep, that's the end of that studio. It's a bummer. London Studios's had like the interesting VR games and things like that, and to me, this is like part of a series of shut of closures at PlayStation that's like, man, these are the

studios that were making interesting stuff at the very least. Obviously they weren't like the world class like number one sellers or anything like that. But after closing down Japan studios in now London studios. It's like, man, you're kind of left with the teams that people think of when they think of Sony, but they aren't putting out games very frequently. Like, honestly, we can get through this generation without Naughty Dog putting out like a game that's a new

game that would be insane, but it feels like it could happen. Yeah, God, there's is PSVR two dead in the water now, wouldn't sure? I would say yes. They have not brought it up in any real way, So okay, yep, all right, that does it for the news. Jan I'm handing this show back over to you. I'm rocking this show back and forth, and I think it needs a little bricky break. Use the party, and then we'll be back with some emails right after this.

Do it emails. Pomcast giant bomb dot com is the email address to send your fine emails. To send any and everything you want to send, whether it is a game related questions, discussion topics, trying to avoid awkward social situations, or hey, what you're doing that day? I will I welcome any in every email. Special shout outs to the giant Bomb community. Last last week. I wanted to solicit workout and lifting advice from from y'all, and y'all came out. It droves different. Part of the answer is

creatine. And let me tell you right now, your boys thighs hurt. Turns out, turns out I was doing squad's completely wrong with this whole time. Oh really, Yeah, I've learned now what a lat pulled down is and all this other stuff. It's great. I feel great. Can't wait for a Game of the year to pop off late in the year. I'm just gonna rip my shirt off for no reason. They they did. They did say that getting a bow flex was a good idea and I should do

that, right I did. No one said that bow flex is around anymore. I was gonna get a used one cub, get into running with me, run a marathon with me. Monotony. Yeah, but I need to do lat. I gotta do the lat stuff. That's my weakest muscle in my body. I want to focus on that. I think bow flex is the answer. Still, I don't care do the bow flex. Let's run a marathon. What do you so? How are you building up your your running agility? There? Danny boy hal Higden he's like a hundred year old

fucking dude that's been running marathon since the fucking thirties or something. I read his book and I'm following his program. I guess that's like the standard of just like here is how you do this. You have like a long run every weekend, and it goes up like so right now, it's like, you know, Saturday, I'll do a seven mile. Next Saturday, I'll

do an eight mile. Next one I'll do a ten. So that's working up for the half mile, and then like Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, I'm running at least a five k every day, So like this morning I did a five k. Tomorrow I'm doing four miles in the morning. The next day I'm doing five k. And then you have cross training days, which are basically just like okay, this is to work like you know, like you're doing leg strengthening stuff or like rowing in core things like that.

So it's just it's very structured day to day. And I haven't missed the single one of them for like two months. And yeah, I ran. I did an actual race this weekend at ten k, and I've done those before, but I'm usually like really slow and just dying by the end. And this one it's like I had a pace I was going for and I beat my time by like five minutes I was shooting for and you beat it by five minutes. Yeah, but I mean it's like, you know, it's like, screw it. An hour ten or whatever. It was my

very it's a very reasonable goal. But like I finished in like an hour four or something like that. But yeah, this is like the first time I've actually been doing this, right, Like I did a half marathon ten years ago, but that was just me going out in San Francisco and like, let's just see how far I can run. Then I'll try to go farther the next time. And this time it's like regimented, planned out, like yeah, so I'm actually following it, and I'm finding it way easier

and way more on that I've ever found running. Helly, Wow, it feels finally great. So running down love it. Yeah. I want to get to the point where, uh, we're we're going to be in a situation where someone needs something carried and then I just do it with one arm dominant dominant arm, non dominant arm, or I just want to be like hanging from a Cliff and then someone has to save me and I'm like,

no, dog, I got this. Oh so like the beginning of Base Ventura two, like you're the raccoon, but he doesn't need like that. Okay, I see, I see. This is all just building to my tribal chief arc. That's all. That's all. I'm trying to get the tattoo. Get the tattoo, real talk. I thought about getting a chest chest tattoo or the chest. Yeah, a little little chesty double double pits the chesty. Oh wow, that's that says something. I'm gonna be honest,

I'm not listening. I just watched The Shadow of the ar Tree trailer instead this whole time. That was why what's your what's your favorite I want to hear from it. What's your favorite part about running going forward? Just just how's the running around the structure is the important thing? Like I think it's like I finally am like finding like a workout structure that really works for

me. You've like you've liked it is the discipline and the structure because like I remember when I lived in New York, like I was focusing on like I was like kind of getting into like lifting stuff and I was. I was lifting way more than I used to. You know, I was doing benches with like the forty fives and stuff which I was never able to do

before. And then I kept getting hurt and I remember I went to a doctor at one point and he's like, look, you're not You're you're lifting like the way a bodybuilder would want to lift, but you're not a bodybuilder. Don't do and like I don't want to be a bodybuilder. So like that didn't really work with me. And now the running, like I remember like teachers pulling me aside in like eighth grade and me like, hey,

you should be on the cross country team. I You've got the build of a runner, and so like I think maybe I'm actually kind of like built to run more and bike I'm going on you know, thirty mile bike rides and stuff on the weekend. So it's like I think I'm finding my stuff

for sure here and I'm born to run. Yes, yeah, maybe, but it's great like making like making a playlist and like knowing how long it's going to take to run this ten k and like knowing like sure, okay, in the middle it is going to be this type of feeling the music at the end is going to be able. We'll bring in the rocky shit and everything like it, just the actual act. I don't get bored by

it, you know, it's it's very fun, Yeah Dan. Two more follow ups, Yes, oh Dan, I would recommend you don't have to watch the movie, but run to the Challenger's soundtrack. I saw you tweet that, and I considered looking that up because like, now that I'm running so much, I am looking I don't want to listen to the same playlist over and over again. So yes, I can do that next time. I'll do it tomorrow morning. Oh my god, I actually shoot felt like

I could get into a fight with God. All right, WHOA My first question, what are your preferred running shoes? Ah? I uh so I got Are you like a hawk? Yes? So I I have like weird feet and they're like wide and stuff. So it's like hard for me to find I plan it for shitest issues. So it's been always been hard for me to find shoes, we know. Yeah, yeah, sol gear. So I used to use like, you know, Brooks Adrenaline and stuff like

that. Like Brooks has some good like you know, arch support shoes and stuff like that, but they were kind of tight for me a lot of times. And it was when we were having breakfast with the bone Yellows, Jan and April was telling me about the Hokahs or the Hawkas or whatever, and man, I went into a running store and they say, oh, have them actually get on a treadmill. They'll look at your gate, they'll look at your feet and they'll do all this stuff and like they recommend to

them. I was like, okay, I've heard these are great, and I've gotten a couple of pairs since then. They are the most comfortable shoes, So those are absolutely working for me. Cool. I don't wear a lot of sneakers, but I love the pair of Hokies that I got because of the Bone Yellows. Oh they're great. Yeah. Yeah. And then before you said you really like to run like five miles or seven k's,

so which is it metric or imperial? Well, okay, so race the way it works is the way on the Hall Higden stuff is it's miles. So it's like you know, right now, it's like you'll do Tuesday three, Wednesday four, Thursday three. And when I say ten k, I mean an actual race where it's like I signed up for a thing, you show up at a place, you get a bib, you do the run. It's all like I'm only doing a couple of races. The half marathon

is an actual race. The ten k is an actual race. But when I say I run a five k, you know, several times a week, I mean that like I'm supposed to only do three miles, but it's like three point one for a technical five k, so I will push to the three point one just so. Like my app logs, it is a five k, and I'm big on like tracking the stats and all that stuff, like my fastest segment it's fucking speed running. But for real life,

how many literally yes, speed? Yeah, it's amazing. Yes. And how many of those annoying magnets do you have now on the back of your car? I own? No? None? No, okay, good to know you're annoyed by that back car. People who have like twelve point five what's annoying? It's like, okay, I just ignore it. I don't know what's annoying not hurting yet I oh it is. That's where you're This is where the comes out, Like, well, if someone's doing something I

don't like, so I must disapprove. That's the part you're I think it's funny to be annoyed by things. Yeah, you're not wrong, Okay, I think that is where we find joy. I'm envious because I would listen. I would love to go run a marathon with you. But like what you're describing is in no way could fit with the way I have my life set up with the kids. Oh, I can't disappear and go ride a bike for thirty miles. Well, that run away from them. That's the

point. The ride thing is a bonus. That's like, you know, you have your like cross training. Yeah, but I like four days a week they're both in school in the morning, and I do go for walks, but in that that's in the morning. It's I try to do a two mile walk, yes, but how long? How long are you out? Oh, it's so I do that in like thirty minutes. I did thirty this morning. Honestly, I do forty five minutes. It's probably I've

doing les closer to three miles. I'm doing, yeah, thirty minutes to do three point one, right, So I could probably fit in there. But it's like it can't get much longer than that because I have the show in the morning and stuff like that. So it's I could maybe make it happen, but I couldn't do anything on the weekend or anything like that. Long ones you're just to be able to keep to. I would not be able to keep to the regular schedule that you're describing, and that's what I

would want. Well, that's the crazy thing. I was, like, I'm thinking about this summer, and like my race isn't until late July, and so like my really long you know, eight nine, ten miles and stuff. I'm going to be in Vegas, I'm going to be in Oklahoma. I'm going to be and like I've got a lot of travel coming up. So I got to figure out, like, do I wanted to run in Vegas in July for ten miles or staying in the hotel and doing a treadmill run for that way? Do treadmill? I I don't run in the

desert. What are you doing? Yeah, we'll see. I'm not sure I'm ready for something. Yeah, dude, I can't wait. You're going to be so slim. I can't wait to see you down below. Sixt in the one sixties for the first time and like one for a decade. Yeah gosh, darn yeah, good for you. But honestly it is sorry, I'm excited. I don't talk about this that much. I'm excited talk

about it. It is very interesting to see like things that you might just write off as aging as like I remember, like if you look back, that the heaviest I've ever been was around the time of that like Belgium travelog last year, so last July, and that's when I started kind of like because I was like on the plane, I was feeling bad. I was just like getting out of bed in the morning, it was just really like oh my back, my legs, my feet, no, everything was just

kind of hurting. I was like, fuck, getting old sucks. I'm like, yes, it does. But I made a real effort from that point and I am amazed. Like when I pop out of bed in the mornings now to do my run, I'm just like i feel like I'm keeping up out of bed and like my knees are feeling good, my fet are feeling good. I'm just feeling lighter and better. So it's like it you can reverse certain things or stave certain things off if you put the work in

certainly. I mean, look, more people need to hear that turns out. Doing exercise feels good. It turns out and a lot of things. Yeah yeah, maybe folks at home, you won't be as angry and upset about the world if you just go out and and I don't know how your grass it does roads, but yeah, I roads playing around on the weekends, you know, Yeah, get more Dolph in your life, grub. I think you would really enjoy. Have you seen the steel mace workouts?

No, it's just like like like one of those big like lever workouts where you work with like a big long pole. Yep, exactly like it. At the end, you know what you need to do if you like that. Watch the video of Scott Steiner's workout DVD where he's just lifting up logs and tires and stuff and screaming. Yeah it's uh yeah with all of his favorite freaks are there just watching him lift chains and stuff. It's incredible. Yeah. Yeah, God, I kind of want to go, like do

a cartwheel now or something. Yeah, it's talk about workout, do you what do you mean, like, oh, just to feel good? No, just like I just want to see if I could do like a one armed cartwheel. All right, emails, I'm enjoying our fitness arc era. Yeah, yeah, you went home. It's never too late. All you got to do just start like did you like pick one like program that someone sent and started doing it. If you look at the GB discord, greb, someone had tagged in it and uh shots out to divine on the GB

discord, they made a whole workout regiment catered to me. Nice. Hell right. They're a personal trainer in the u PDX is Portland. Yeah that sounds right, Yes, the Portland area. I'll find their info if they justify the X. I mean, look, Kansas City's airport is MC. I like Airport Coast. Okay, so that's the airport code. Okay, okay, that's okay, fair enough anyway, I signed so yeah, Uh first email, how that they justify? Yeah, get away with that.

That's just a funny like justify that. Uh. First email comes from Chris from Texas asking for Boston Recks. Hey Bombers. So I'm going to be in Boston for a few days in August, mostly for the one Piece Night at the Red Sox game where they're giving away a bobblehead of Lucy Loofy in a Red Sox jersey. But what's more important is I'll be there for three days and I'm looking for fun stuff to do in great places to eat with

my wife. My wife, they included that parentheses. Since you all had such a good time there for packs, I was wondering if you had any suggestions. I also considered going to the Salted Caramel wopster role, but it sounds like you got to be a hotel guest there anyway. Thanks for the

help. Christ from Texas. I am bummed hearing this that I didn't take us to Lily's Bar while we were there, because I went there last year with my dad, and there's called Lilies Bar and Patio and it's just like funky pizzas and a bunch of like cool like shareable appetizers and stuff like that, and just a really cool place with cool cocktails. You never mentioned that. I can't believe I didn't. It's literally the only place I'm looking at

the Boston map. The only star I have on my Google Maps is Lilies Bar. It's like, I gotta go back there if I'm ever in Boston. Great cocktails, great vibe to the place. Man. Yeah, I don't know. I fucked up. But next time we're in Boston, Lilies Bar for to get downtown too. That brewery we went to Backlar What was that called Trillium? Oh? Really good? That was good. It was nice. Yeah, go to Trillium. There's a couple of them in Boston. That's my favorite beer in town. But I don't claim to be any

sort of Boston experts. Tiki Bar was great. Yeah, surely, surely yes, yeah, sure leave not sure Lye's like I kept thinking it was sure leave yes. Yeah, that was a great night. We We also were in a part of Boston that's like, I feel like a lot of Bostonians don't consider it to be real. That's what makes it good. Yeah, you know so, I like the part where I won ten thousand dollars, right, that was a cool moment that more often, I will never

forget that. I will never forget you just going over to the bar and just chatting up somebody you've never met, just because you could not be thinking about this sports timeline. Yeah, I was just so confident. I just knew it was gonna happen. I'm sorry it seemed pretty certain, but I couldn't think that way. Like it was like they would have had to score like four goals in right, But it's not. It's not possible. You know that one time I because I left some money on there, I showed

you like, hey, I'm gonna win again. It's not quite as much money, and then fucking one team did blow a huge lead and I never ended up winning that. So yeah, yeah, next email is about gains. Still in fitness, what's a BombCast? I want to suggest a workout for y'all that pairs perfectly with disc golf. You all should join a climbing

gym. You can spend what I want, You can spend way too much money on shoes and chalk bags, you can learn a bunch of new Lingo, and depending on the gym, you're basically working out on a giant mattress. I started climbing about two months ago. Parenthes He shouts out Minneapolis Bouldering Project. And not only are the gains a parent it's the only workout routine I've had where I've had to force myself to take a rest day. It's

really fun. It's addicting as hell. There's lots to learn and solving a route feels like beating a boss in a soul's game. Become climbing people, hit me up if you're ever visiting Daniell, I'll get you on a guest pass. Thomas from Minneapolis. Yeah, I wonder if he works at Vertical

Endeavors, which is where Tim Terry got really obsessed with. Yeah. Tim Terry got very obsessed with climbing for a while and would not stop talking about it, and like made a bunch of us go, like me and Hanson and Ben Reeves and stuff all went and we try and it's hard, like he's doing crazy stuff and climbing up there and doing all this stuff, and like our fingers are hurting and stuff. So I think for a while, me and Ben Reeves just went down into the mats and did wrestling moves to

each other. You take a rock bottom like. So that was that was my climbing experience. That was fun. Yeah, I'm worried about my fingies. That hurts. I can't I can't do bouldering because of the tendonitis in my hands. Yeah. Have you guys, have you guys done the test of like can you hold yourself up from a bar for sixty seconds because that is mostly about grip strength and you know pull up. Oh I think I

could do that? Yea, yeah, okay yeah, And they're like grip strength, it's one of the best ways to tell whether or not you're gonna have a lot of longevity. So people have if you have, like we grip strength when you're older, it's like, this is a bad sign. You should be working on that. Do you guys ever time your planks? Yeah, I did recently. I can do like thirty seconds pretty easily, and then anytime after that, it's like, oh, this is gonna get

right, like a minute. I'm trying to do over two every day now and like you know, pull on pushing style. Yeah, try, Like two minutes is a long time. You're shaken by the end of it, but like, oh yeah, I'm shaking five seconds in baby. That don't that don't make it wrong. You know. It's funny. My dad never works out, and he wanted to start working out, and so last time I was in town, he like had me come to a gym. He had a ten dollar a month Jimmy signed up for. He's like, show

me how to workout basically, like how does this elyptical thing work? Or how does this? And I was also explaining like, oh, an easy thing you could do at home is just a plank and I explained it to him and I was like, yeah, you just hold yourself up and like if you could do that for you know, thirty seconds a minute And he's like, what that's easy. That's a that's not that's not a workout, that's it. Do you want to do? You want to try? Sic,

That's just that's too easy. That's why would I waste my time doing that? It was like try it like five seconds. It's oh, fitness folks at home is like she should I be like getting on the pro proteins as well as what do you want? What do you want to do? I'm trying to get like Roman brains. Damn, you need to have a calorie surplus and a bunch of protein. Okay, I just spilled coffee. My question for climbing is I don't like relying on other people for this.

I want to be able to just go and do my thing hand go. I always imagine a climbing gym requires like the ballet and stuff. No bouldering is just freehand. It is ok Yeah, yeah, that's us. Okay. I want to be able to go to a gym inside air conditioned and not have anyone else hold the rope for me, and I don't want to

hold anyone else's rope, so no, no, no bouldering. It's like bouldering is shorter, uh walls and then you're just going based off of like the difficulty that you choose for the roof crab and then it's just yeah, freehand in your feties. Yeah, there's no episodes. It's gonna be fall. It's short. It's just like a back bump onto a map. Yeah yeah, that's make sure to tuck your head, throw the arms, yeah yeah, the judo judo fall. Yeah. Oh I still maintain this,

Dan. I think there could have been an alternate route for you where you got really into Brazilian jiu jitsu. I did moy Tie by a group on from moy Thai, right, yeah, we're probably like twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, and I got Ben Hansen to come with me. It was like five classes at a place called the Cellar in Minneapolis, and I went and it was fucking awesome because it's like a lot of holding bags and kicking bags

and just really just like wrenching into it. It felt great, but uh I did jam my finger really bad like three classes in and had to stop. And I could be misremembering this, but I do remember Hanson getting so light headed that I feel like he was like whoa and had to like because I think I was sparring with Hanson if I remember right, and he got light headed and because they did a thing where it's like you got to lift your arms up and then he just burned on the person's stomach and like it

sucks. And I think I remember him like walking back to the locker room to get his clothes and leave like in a daze, and I think he accidentally went into the women's room. And so in my head it's Ben Hansen just like Frank and sign walking and then hearing in my head I might be Missmer. Now that's exactly that's how it happened. That's how it Yeah, all right, a couple more before we get out of here. Next email,

Hey Bombers, two part question for you. One, what were some cases of advertisements inside games that somehow felt okay with you and not trashy or lame? I'm thinking Crazy Taxi, Tony Hawk, maybe Fortnite, Yeah, like Burnout Fortnite. I just accepted, like this is just like that is the game, you know, like that feature. Yeah, yeah, but Crazy Texas firstime that came to line for me. Yeah, definitely. I

saw when you were talking about ads in games last week grew up. Someone mentioned you can get a pizza hut box as a shield and Fantasy Star and I'm cool with that, right if it's really dumb, I think like cup Noodle in any Koja thing where he's done monster Energy Monster Energy Drink. I thought that was pretty stupid and fun and death stranding. So yeah, Jed, have you gotta be tasteful jet Modo with the mountain dew? Yeah? Maybe it doesn't even need to be tasteful, I know, but tasteful.

But I'm being very charitable with the definition of tasteful here. But like it has to it has to be able to like pass a certain kind of like test, you know, a certain kind of sniff test can be ridiculous. Did did anyone during the Dan doco Derek thing, because one of the objectives was see a Tommy Hill figure logo, And I didn't specify the game. Did anyone get Yeah, yeah, I got it. I went to loads up and I knew as soon as you said, I'm like, well,

that's the easiest one. I'm just gonna load of ten eighty. It's right there in the splash screen. Yeah. A sacker, I would have hated it. Yeah, it was like like a dragon infinite wealth. Was that like an ad also for Hawaii? Kind by the whole? Yeah, the tours? That was product. That's more product. Yeah, okay. The second question is what is the common thread that makes these ads? Okay? Why are we just pulsed by, okay, by the concept of an in

game ad like a billboard in Rainbow six or during a load screen. But Norman readas chugging monsters is okay? Market is yours? Not a pr executive. I swear it's because it is product place Smith. It is an easier pill to swallow when it's a part of the thing. Like you don't really see the ads on the board of the hockey ring, yeah, right, Like you don't see that in a way you see your moment being. You

see something taking over a screen and delays you from doing a thing. There's intrusive and passive ads in that I'm at a point where the ads that show up on like the Xbox interface that really bother people. I don't even notice them, doesn't bother me at all anymore, but a lot of people are really bothered by that. So part of this is I'm just used to it. Next email, I also miss cigarette ads. Okay, we should bring

those back specifically. Yeah, I miss like going to like Shay Stadium and seeing like a big Malborough in the comic book, you're like Winston cigarette high Yeah, camels yeah hell yeah, Tim writs and hello BombCast When upf Dan wanted to be able to use Prime on the game scent. Though it looks like that won't work. However, he could get an ultrasonic humidifier that would

send the prime into the air. That's what he was thinking that the same is Yes, okay, they also make smart ones that can be connected, so he could maybe remotely activate it as well. How well it would actually work? I have no idea, Thanks Tim. If you could just start randomly buying products and being like you have to install this in your home, that is that's crazy, grub. I literally this morning the thought did enter

and axent my mind. I didn't act on it, don't know of Like, man, it'd be so funny if I could get the actual stink bomb for juice stuff in there. And I was like, how am I going to possibly? Like men, he's probably not there that often. I did cross my mind, like should I email Grub's wife and ask if she'll put far juice in the game. Sense she would never because you didn't you know how bad that smells. Oh yeah, oh I do. Yeah, it would make the whole house right, I know. I used to do it.

My mom was not happy. Done it in cars, done it in homes and bars, done it yeah, that was kind of my thing. Oh bars, he had. I went to a bar once where someone did that. Cleared the whole place out if it's a crowd of bar. Not advocating it out, but helped me get some beer's quicker in college, Hey Dan, do some Oh cool, the game Sen's going off weird? Do an ultra marathon here? You just you're running, Just run here and put it in there. But I'm not looking. Yeah running run there just yeah.

Yeah, that's a long way break into his home. Hey you wouldn't charge it, No, that's rue Okay, if well, if you wanted didn't want to make content out of it, Yeah, sure, yeah, the fun fart juice all right. Uh. We had another email about someone writing in to kill time while they're waiting in a TSA line. But last

email of the show comes from Mett from South Carolina. Dear Bombers, I really like the Final Fantasy seven remix so far, but I have to watch others play through it because I keep dying when I try to play it. Yes, I fiddled with the settings and knock the difficulty down, but for some reason, my dumb brain can't quite mesh with a combat and I get my ass kicked whenever I try. There any games you like but have no but have to experience the story through others because you're bad at them? Thanks?

Love the show, Mat from South Carolina. Fighting games I'm bad at, so I like watching fighting games. Yeah, I'm bad at having patients, so any game that requires a ton of that. If I really want to see what's going on there, I might watch the story or something. I don't know. Yeah, I like watching Eldenreen because I'm just never I just I don't, I just I can't fit that into my life. It's just too good too. I want to do it, but like I just

don't have the time. I don't think I have the time. Quite frankly, I just don't closest for me probably like not enjoying peace Walker and just like watching like all the cut scenes, you know, I think even familiar scaling. We didn't play it. We just like watch all the cut scenes. Not that I keep thinking I should probably play Peacewalker, but yeah, yeah, yeah, it was peace Walker in that collection of ca that. Yeah, it's on there, so like I don't have an excuse. I

could easily play it. I own it on several things now, Oh uh, StarCraft and like DODA League, that's another one that I like to watch versus actually play league in Doda. It's because sometimes the community just got awful. But StarCraft, your boys hands can't move that fast. I watch a lot of quackshot speed runs over and over again. But you're also playing that. I know, I know, but yeah, I watched the best. Well, what like is there Like it sounds like there's a lot of them.

Is there, like a go to quack shot speed run like a Zeewi or something. I think is the number one guy he's been great, has shown up in Gee Geewee. Yeah, he's got the twenty three minute forty three, which is insane. Man, I watched him try to the Transylvania Skip is nuts. It's just he's He's the one I watch over and over and over again. Now that I'm trying to kind of hone in, but it's hard. Are you going to get the long jump? I am?

So the thing is, I can't do it every time now, but I can do it enough to where I could get lucky once and that's all I need you. It'll make a big enough difference that that's worth it. Oh absolutely. And the good thing is all the long jumps, if you need to do, for the most part, is in the first level in Mexico. So it's like I can just restart it. It's not like I have to get all away there and then suck it up and restart. I fuck

up right away. So I'm just playing Mexico over and over and over again, right now. Okay, cool, yep, fan stick And that does it for emails, folks, And that about does it for the show to day and this week what we got going on for the rest of this week, we got game. This morning's popping off Monday or Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. We also have a d light club this week because Mike Minatti is

doing business things all over this country. Shn we decide right now. We were talking about maybe Incredible Crisis, maybe also Dekatonic game Boy, which is supposed to be a good one. What do you want? It's your special day, you know I'm gonna have both. And let's see, let's see what we're feeling. Way, I'm expensing you pop Eyes. It's on backlar, so you're getting some Popeyes delivered to you. So you can't wait. It doesn't come out of my wallet? Can can I like? It?

Is there like a drop down? Or I can just say the picture of your face? So that's cold. That's cold. That's cold. Rob you rob someone of your ask. No you can't, No, you can't spend spend that. We get some Popeyes grab It'll be good all right tomorrow tomorrow you too can play at home. Go get yourself some pop Ye it's the best chicken sandwhichever, it's really good. It's Thursday. We have a grabag stream. We're gonna check out a couple of games. Uh that that have

been popping off. We'll probably just show off some senuas saga on the website and then we're continuing our elder ring adventures on up F this week as well as a b c R. Maybe we should do amount Rush Moore of Stealth Games. He figure it out. Yeah, I was gonna suggest maybe we do an Xbox draft, but maybe not. We could. Let's we'll decide a draft could be fun though maybe not an Xbox one, maybe some other kind of draft. Yeah. Uh and then uh yeah, that about does

it for this week. Well. Also, as we mentioned at the top of the show, tickets are available now to Giant Bomb at Night, Une sixth at the bell Weather June ninth, June ninth, sixth, ninth. Nice. Uh. We'll have guests like Jason Schreyer on a Pierce parasally e f wadwe Uh, Mike Minnaughty and then Patrick as well as a bunch of

other guests. The clinic is that kid that that won the contest to be on stage, right, Yeah, it's I think it's a make a wish thing, Okay, you know, it's like a tombson pizza contest or something. Yeah, he's like he's a kid YouTube kid. But yeah, yeah, we got a bunch of other guests. Uh uh yet to announce it's gonna be fun stuff, fun stuff. Believe me, we've had meetings and uh I've I've never seen Dan as excited as he was earlier when I mentioned

mister Mosquito. Right, yeah, imagine him getting excited about something other than that's It's beautiful. Bless God, bless you Dan. What we learned today? We learned that maybe Jeff Grubb has to dodge in ice cream if we go out for ice cream. We learned that Dan loves mister Mosquito. We learned about typing piss. I don't remember what that was about. Grub was

trying to make the look stick feel good. Maybe you say scribble not to a Jason instead of scribbled Nazi. We learned that games have changed because nipple DLC is no longer a thing. We learned that maybe old folks that are watching too many commercials and maybe they're the ones that love Raymond. We also learned that we're headed to a future littered with as in games. Soccer rise pretty cool for denying a dolbiad in front of a game and Hey, we

also learned that we're getting into our fitness era, folks. I've been Jam, he's been Jeff, he's been Jeff, he's been Dan and he at home have been gorgeous today. Go outside and touch some actual grass. Go go outside and lift a kettlebell, do some squats, do some Hindu squats. Go for a run, Go go, go punt a football. We'll see you next week. Love that for another episode up Giant Bodcast. I can't get this other music to stop. I'm sorry shutting that different frogether.

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