836: Grey the Hedgehog

Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, April sixteenth, twenty twenty four. Welcome to the Giant BombCast, Episode eight hundred and thirty six. I am your host today, Jan Oh Shoah. Powered by nzxt. That's right, I myself empowered by nzxt as well as this podcast is powered by nzxt co. Captain the ship here as always right now, powered by the ice machine located behind

the lobby elevator. Jeff Grubb, Howdy, I I'm living in fear because I shared a picture of Aladdin on my feet and I'm afraid Mike's gonna yell at me. Where are you say that alatt It is better on superin I know that's ridiculous. It's just a mediocre platform. They had the real animators from the movie working on the Genesis version. You invited him? Excellent? Okay, great, fantastic joining us today, Herbo Seawan McTell. Yes,

enjoining me is the lovely Bucket Shawn, Everyone's favorite persona sex character. What I'm gone for like a week and what happens here? They're excited about green, so you see, Jan, do you have you heard about this green paint bucket theory? Have you heard about Green. I've heard about Green. I've heard about like some some hex code with how the people are? You got it? That's it, that's all our is to it. But Jeff

Grubb is very I forgot you care. Yeah, I forgot bucket. Sean doesn't like Jeff, so she might have to go away from disrespectful to her. On the last episode, it's I would never disrespecting women everywhere on the internet in person. Oh no, it's no longer International Women's Day, but it's still happening. Should I walk it back? Mike, No, No, go for it now, let's just do it. Let's just do it. My Hey, how's it going. I'm disrespectful to women? That's not

true. I can't say that true. I love women, ladies love cool Mikey. You know that's what we say behind the scenes all the time. Yes, yes, absolutely, Yeah, how's it going? I'm great. Can we immediately talk about how Jeff and Shawn are wearing the same exact shirt? Yeahs with a good shirt, wearing like the same color of clothing right now. Yeah, honestly it looks like it's like the same. Yeah, we're like mildly twinning, We're like twin bounding. They're like full on twining

for audio listeners. For audio listeners, they both have a shirt. It's like the metal Gear NYES cover, but instead of Snake, it is Samus around you suit Samus. It's a very good, very good cover, and it's just very Gear instead of metal gear. Very good. It's a very good shirt. Looking up? Was that yetti joint? Yes? Yet he was, Yeah, I can't get more exclusive club to anyone who has the very Gear shirt. Exclusive only the people who were awake that day. Yeah,

couldn't be me, could not be me? Boys, How is it going? I was here for the dump truck and then I decided I needed to sleep and rest and look through all of this WrestleMania footie. How's how's it going? How's it popping? It's good. I didn't give up on as I had to give up on a YouTube video. It was like an hour and like thirty minute video about first person shooters on the N sixty four, and I somehow like felt disgusted and how to leave an hour like one

and fifteen minutes. You think at that point I would just be pot committed, but the vibes were really off. I don't know how talking about what was I don't know what what was the tear t here? What? Okay?

So, like, you know, so I was watching, like you know, like I like to watch really long YouTube videos and this guy was like, here, every shooter on N sixty four is like that sounds fun, and like, you know, first he like he had some jabb at like some old video game journalists from my game Pro and that's always a little weird to me. These old YouTubers always like still have some vendetta against like some guys game Pro review from years ago. That's a little bit of red

flag. But then like much later, it was like IGN and he was like mad about like the review for some newer game or it was like it was like the review was like negative. He's like, and that's back when an IGN review used to mean something like them today either a lot of weird sex chokes. And then just finally when I gave up, was I was talking about tu Rok too. It was like and then Turak goes to the Spirit Realm and there's a hot lady there. We all know what we were

thinking. It's just a zoom up on this N sixty four model with this sound effect. Cool while it's like done. That was the last thing I was expecting. Oh my god, you know I've done cheeks? Clap? Is that what he is trying to imply there? I know there's no no form of it, a form of yeah, Oh my god, go the fuck outside. Yeah, I mean it was a joke, I guess. Sound was like, no, no, he's not. I was gonna give you a hard time, Mike, but no, you're one percent. Vibes

are off. Yeah. At that point, I was just like, there's fifteen minutes. But I was so populated to this video. I was like, no, I'm out. Video game cheeks look much better now, Why are you still obsessed with in sixty four based cheeks? Oh my god, it's like that yeah, right where I like, ten years after Robocks came out, it was like one of the most popular categories to sir to search

on, like adult websites and stuff like that. It's we just keep these things with us forever at a certain point, So in sixty four cheeks, I get it. Sometimes I want to like rescind a view from like yeah, you know, it's like, hey, I don't want to keep this time to them. I don't want the stat to be tracked. No point, zeros are a one sense of ad revenue either. Yeah take that from

Yeah, yeah yeah, let me rewind the clock there. Boys. Turns out there's a lot of wrestling happening, and I'm not going to religate that Dan and I went to Philly. Uh. I think Philadelphia broke Dan. Honestly. I think it chewed them up and stomped them out. And I think the vacate this podcast Championship it was. It was really sad. Yeah, exactly. You know what, No, I'm not going to share that

story because might Yeah. Yeah, there's some some interesting wrestling media people around, like, oh, okay, I have no idea who you are, nor do I quite want to learn right now. Please put your flyers away and your QR code. I don't I don't want to know QR codes. That's fun. You should again every QR code you see at a wrestling event that seems safe. Yep. You think there's a lot of hacking going on at a wrestling event. I think there's a lot of poor security in general.

Yeah. Yeah, I think the people who would do that know that there are people who would, you know, just throw caution to the win

there speaking, that's a very poor security. Last wrestling thing I swear today, at least you know, the wrestle con was happening outside of WrestleMania proper sure, and you had to buy like a three day pass to get in and then additional photo ops with whoever ex superstars, ex wrestlers you wanted to, and then Dan and I tried to get media badges for it last minute the guy said to like, oh no, sorry, we can't do that

for you wrestling. You need to go buy some tickets over there. Dan and I see the ticket booth and then we see the door to walk into like the main show floor. Ish is all in a hotel. Dan and I skip the line to buy tickets and we just walked straight in and just flashed a miscellaneous lanyard from the WWE that just said media and uh, we just got it and then walked around. That's great. I like this con. I like this move this, I like I approve, just not like

you belong. It's fine, no one will stop you. This is yeah. This is not the same as like cutting in line in the bathroom, right, people shouldn't be sad about it because like, oh no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And you know, maybe to be frank, some wrestling fans need to be cut in line to be honest. Yeah, you're probably right, uh speak about cutting in line. Let's anyone to have any other bands before we get to the games. Oh yeah, the thing that I brought up during the during the mite

check. So you know, I got my taxes done a little bit ago, you know, matros By the deadline, a couple of issues I need to solve there, but we got done Congress, and I certainly didn't get a refund this year, but I have to pay less than I thought I did, which is a nice little surprise. And you see, my stupid lizard brain was like, well I'm paying last night I thought I would. That's kind of like getting a refund, right, That's not how money works.

But that's where I'm at right now. So I kind of want to treat myself to some nice because it is it is, you know, the money I got on the bank there is, you know, it's money in the bank now. So I can't, you know, treat myself to something if I want. And so I'm kind of just looking at like some of the tech and stuff that I've been wanting to pick up and well, one of the things I brought up was Apple devices because Apple Vision not Apple Vision.

No no, hell no no no no, no no no. But just like I haven't had any Apple device since the iPod Touch came out. You know, I was in high school, like that was quite a while ago. Now I was over a decade ago, and I don't know, I was like, what if I just like tried one of the iPhones as my next My myphone's getting a little bit older, Like if you know, give secondhand iPhone, that might be interesting. So I'm like looking at that

and it reminded me of the state of gaming right now. Tie into the podcast, because man, I was and Andrew just like the same thing at this point. Oh yeah, it's being interesting several years ago. The differences it's the same. That's go ahead. I'm sorry. I MVG just did

a video about that. I don't know if you saw that too, and we're thinking about that, just like talking about what was special about consoles like in that N sixty four era, and like how you know now it is just that there's the you know, it really is the green one and the

blue one, right yep. Yeah, one sort of just agreed on the best way to do things, and now there's no room for interesting things to happen anymore exactly, which is why I'm always like, maybe they just get an iPhone from my next phone, because like if they're kind of the same thing at this point, well, one's got Apple Arcade and one doesn't. So maybe I just subscribing the Google Play subscription thing, I know, and

I'm mooching off your family Planet get done a DL man. I signed into my TV the r day, and so it's like one of these things is not like the other. Yeah, and those other things I'm looking at just like smaller things like PlayStation devices. So I'm always a big advocate for emulation because you know, at this point, like rub mentioned I think last episode, at this point, software emulators are basically the same thing as real hardware

from most systems. Some are a little funky, though, So I kind of want to get like maybe a PS two to actually play OG games on, and maybe a PS three because there's some funckiness there. Would you be able to get the like how expensive are those PS three's that had the PS one just also launch PS three? Yeah? Yeah, they're not that bad. You come secondhand, especially if you get just the console, it can be pretty cheap. The problem is those actually are starting to die and the

amount of work you'd have to put in it. Maybe is just better to get a PS two Slim and a PS three Slim. And I'm a sucker for limited edition consoles. I think, you know, just having a system that you know has a unique colorway and everything that can be kind of cool. So I'm looking at for the PS two. I kind of get it, and I kind of want to just like hump these down organically, sort

of like what Mike is doing with his retro collection. We're like, I'll go to a store someday and if I see it, that would be really neat. But I want the pink PS two slim o Bright Did you say a picture of this? Why do I have this in my brain right now? I talked about it. I talked about the other day, like in passing, but something about it, and just like the gaudiness of it. I kind of Barbie pink. It is Barbie pink. If you look at the small pink, if you look at the box, it's like Barbie font

the word pink man, oh god, how good bold it is. It's really cool, Sean wouldn't be enough to get like a custom job or you want the actual pink PS two Like, I don't care if it's like a reproduction or anything. But the weird thing is not a lot of people are making a PS two slim show they're doing for like the PS two fat because those are easier to do soft model, and there's a lot more out there

of those. Yeah, yeah, exactly so I and they're not that expensive to get the original, so maybe, yeah, I think that might be why I just try to track down someday. And then the PS three I've been looking at. There's a PS three slim, so just the regular slim that is the black model, and then on top it has the final Fantasy thirteen to two logo and lightning etched in pink. I'm like, maf I get those two together, that'd become a cool combination. That'd be kind of

neat. It looks pretty sick. For a long time, I was like at PS three Xtbox six, that's not really retro in the way I think of it, and I finally, no, that's pretty retro, and that's pretty retro those games feel old and like I a nostalgic and like I kind of like do want to plug in a PS three at some point? Yeah? Right, it's the launch for those systems is nineteen years ago. Right, don't say that, Jeff Crouch. I'm bad at Math two thousand and

six. Okay, eighteen for for PS two then yet eighteen years yeah, nineteen when it came out. Three sixty was one year, two decades. Man, three six is gonna be twenty years. Perfect Dark zero is gonna be twenty years in a year. Are we going to celebrate It's gonna be. It's gonna be twenty years old before the next Perfect Dark comes out, twenty years between Perfect Darks and then the how many time? How much time was between that and Perfect Dark? Like original, like ten years not even

not even? Yeah? Perfect Dark was what two? Right? Okay, what's the commit right now to a full play through a cameo on the anniversary of the Okay, yeah, it's a million percent choose cameo over Perfect Dark zero like conquer at this point, God, that's talking about p S Three's just reminds me of when MythBusters was wrapping up. We were liquidating a lot

of stuff. Folks were able to take miscellaneous things from the office as I was digging through the missile, any electronics, Like I took home a bucket of Raspberry pies. Oh yeah. There was like a PS three unplugged and I'm like, can I have this? And I opened it up and there's like someone's personal pictures there, but it's no one on the crew, no

one from the crew that I remember had interacted with. And it was like personal photos that someone was using like their PS three as like a personal hard drive. No, not news. Well, okay, there was one folder with some questionable photos. I'm like, who is this anyone from this? No, it's not. Was it PS three FAT or was it a SLIM? I believe it was a PS three FAT. Okay, that makes sense because the FAT had a variety of like card readers off front and everything.

Sony really wanted that to be the your all in one medium device. Okay, so that makes sense. Oh last thing on the PS three, by way, so I wanted the Lightning PS three Slam. I didn't know this only in Japan, I think maybe Europe by specifically in Japan, there's a super Slam that is the Metal Gear Rising Super Slim. I yeah, it's not super stylish. It's like a black Super Slam in the middle. Is that like Cobalt Blue that they were reason for the super Slams and that just

sort of like has text all on it etched and white. That's like Metal Year Rising and like some characters in Japanese. Yeah, yeah, I see it now. It's kind of cheat and you know, like me, that's one of my games, so I think maybe I pivot to that one instead. But yeah, that's that's why I'm on the hunt floor real quick. I just want to put this out into the ether because I would like some

tech advice out there. I was actually at an Apple store yesterday and I wanted to mess around with iPad pro, but of course a gaggle of children are flooding the iPad so I can actually demo one. I'm tired of bringing my gaming laptop around when we go to these events and work travel. I'm looking for something super light. I don't want to use my work laptop, which is the MacBook, but it doesn't even have like the M two chip

in it, right. I also don't want to have to go through the process of having to ask it can I install these twelve programs and then telling me no, and then eventually green lighting it way down the line. So maybe I get an iPad pro is that, you know, shooting a lot of video on like the phone and everything, And I feel like, why do that or one of the newer MacBooks though, because I just don't want to carry around a MacBook and just as light as possible if you already have,

I want to touch things. Okay, well that's fair because the MacBook Air those are kind of nice, you know, and I really like mine. For as much as like it's a good computer, I'm still not used to mac and even if I do get used to it, I'm not gonna be like, oh this is better the way steps like, you're never gonna never gonna want to use another computer again. I'm like, it's that's not

really happening. But the battery is really good. But I think for your case, Jan, an iPad pro would be even more powerful and just as like energy efficient and all that stuff, so you get a lot of the same benefits and then you could do a ton of video stuff on. I'm a Microsoft surface boy myself. Okay, Now I saw blessing bring that to Pax East and I was curious about that. Yeah, they're very nice.

I demled one recently. I thought it was really cool, and I was like, if I ever need a laptop ranting, this might just be the one that I go with. Maybe I'll think about that, because I as far as I know, I don't think there's a very good audio editing app or interface on iPads as of right now, because like there's no audition, there's some kind of final cut, and there's Da Vinci Resolve available on iPads. So we'll see. Anyway, I'll tell you I'll take suggestions for folks

out there. One last thing with my not refund but like making money gambling, I bought myself a pair of roller blades. Oh hell yeah, I just figure out stop there. That's what I did for myself, a new pair of roller blades. Johnny, i'm uh is roller blading learning Japanese. It's a whole new era of like I have always skated because because of hockey. That's the hockey played was roller hockey. So I just had an old pair of beat up but to call them blades, I'm in the seas a

pair of blades. They're just beat up. So I'm like, and you know what, I want to get a new pair, and I just found some on Amazon. I got that and they're hockey roller skates, so roller blades. So I'll go out there and have a good time. That's time I'm doing. I'll quickly. You can explain about US healthcare real quick.

Sure. Oh yeah. Uh so my feet were destroyed after WrestleMania because it was a lot of walking around and I thought like, hey, I should go see a pediatrist or my doctor to schedule a pediatrist, and they were like, yeah, sure, no, no worries, make an appointment. The appointment to to you know, see my feedies and perhaps get some insols or diagnose whatever happening is of course like three weeks away, so yeah, chill cool. Thanks for fixing my immediate problems. Anyway, speaking about fixing

the imediate problems, let's play some video gay Mike Manatti. I may need your advice here, and that's just in general. I see I see you, coach, Yeah, big life coach, Mike Manatti. Mike, tell me about Fallout seventy six because I've been watching the show. I've tuned in for a bit of your stream. I got the Fallout itch I want to play. Yeah. I mean it's interesting because I played fall at seventy six at a preview event and I played a bit when it launched, and like

everyone else at that time, I did not like it. It was really janky, it felt really empty. It was just not an appealing experience. Then, obviously, you know it's been years since then, they've been adding a lot to the game. Yeah, even though I'm not really watching the show yet, just like all that kind of buzz, the zeitgeist, I'm also in a Fallout mood even playing a little bit of Fall four the mods. It's like and I kind of I like Fallout. I'd like to play

another Fallout. So yeah, I thought I checked back in on seventy six. You started a new character, and it definitely left a much better impression than when I last played it. You're the biggest thing they did, and they did a while ago. When the game launched, there were no human NPCs, right. The whole point was supposed to be like, you're like the first ones out of the vault, so there's no other humans so that

we don't have to make NPCs. That sounds hard, but you know then everyone hated that, so they're like, Okay, I guess we should put some MPCs in. So having them there, first off, it makes the game feel completely different, but it makes it feel much more like a traditional Fallout game, and that is just really well. You know, I'm like walk around and you see a person, you talk to them. There's Jason Muse voicing a goual and you're having a conversation with him. So sure,

that's fun, you know. So I was wrolloing the quest for a bit when I really had fun, was like, Okay, I want to just walk in a direction and see if I find something interesting. That's what the good Pathesta style games are good at. So I just like went south and I came across this army camp run completely by robots, and there was like one human teenager there who was like, oh jeez, y'all, i'm reported for duty, you know that kind of thing. So I like that guy.

But you know, I found like the master Sergeant robot in charge, like he's like, you need to like go do the training courses, like the ones like you know, a shooting gallery. The one was like an agility course, But then the one was like you have to like sniff out the communists, and there were three like there are like three mannequins, and they had like speakers next to them. Each had a room. You had to like talk to them. They talked to them. They would say things

like the fourth of July is my favorite holiday and things like that. But like the one was like, yeah, of course, my dad is in a union. Why do you ask? And it's like like I like stink around to like hack it to their computer, like fight out, like oh the dad's laid off, and try to tell all the all all this fellow workers that they should not work for a dad, like go running back to guy like comedy on them. I was like, okay, yeah, that's

that's the good stuff. So I was having fun. Now the issue is, you know, nothing I did required or was plused by the presence of other players, right, Okay, But to be fair, that's actually pretty much all momos these days, at least in terms of new player experiences. Like all the actual multiplayer stuff in a lot of MMOs is just endgame content. Uh these days, Like they're you optionally like can do things with them. Sure, like I was even telling Grub because Gubs like, oh,

what should we do for with Fallout? Maybe we should all play seventy six, Like maybe be fun to watch somebody play seventy six. If four people start Fallout seventy six together, they're just gonna kind of be walking with each other to quest like helping shoot you know, rad roaches every once in a while, I suppose, So you know, it definitely feels more like a Fallout game with a bit of MMO stuff, But there's nothing wrong with that. I think it's a it's pretty fun at that and I love the West

Virginia vibes. Right. This is a bit prettier than other Fallout games because it is like fall and trees actually have leaves, and it's like, you know, they're red, they're the colors of the changing seasons. So it's actually a pretty pleasant vibe in this one. There's still an emphasis on like that basebility stuff, which doesn't do anything for me in this or fall Off for or in Starfield, but it's whatever I can remind me, Mike,

what is the purpose of the base building? You're just like setting up checkpoints as you go along, and like this one, you can kind of like make a camp. So, like the nice thing about it at least is that it's like a fast travel point, right, and you can't put it anywhere in the wilderness. And it's a little neat to see other players camp,

right, because some of them do get into it. Although it also is a little like Second Life YT to me, right, because like you know, they build really it's very obvious what the things are that are built by players, and they're kind of loud and tacky and whatnot. It's not quite like those Mario themed hotels Jeff from that one metaverse video, right, Yeah, but you know it is of that ilk. But like there was like a questions like, hey, you need to like build this so to

draw the attention of these people. So I was like, all right, fine, I'll build that, I suppose, and you have to figure out how to like put out a power supply and the connect the power to your thing all that stuff. It's fine. I wonder if maybe a Fallout seventy six, well I had a lot more time or waited a bit, or maybe was trying to take on influence from other games, if it could have found like a Second in Life trying to ape the Valheim experience. So I

feel like I go full survival game. Yeah, go full survival game, because that could be neat, I think. And there's a little bit of that here, Like you do have to eat and drink every once in a while. I'd never had to do it once starting at least. I don't know if it's like new players don't need to worry about that or what, but yeah, they don't go super hard into the survival stuff, at least not in the kind of first few hours that were griefed at all by other

players Mike or well. At at the early levels. You can't even at one point I did reach like level six or something. I forget where it was like you can turn PvP on. I think you have to turn it on. Uh. And my understanding is that community is like, oh, you want to play Fall at seventy six with us, that's so nice. Yeah, let's let's okay, you know, roll out the red carpet please

right this way, sir. It is it is weird, and like the game has like the fact that the game is still around is nice, and it did kind of slowly build up goodwill and I think it's getting a lot more than a little bit of goodwill now because a lot of people are coming

back to it because everyone's so excited about the show. But you can't see a world where if this had launched in a better shape, like this could be some giant game that we're all talking about all the time, right, because it's not like a ESO where like there's like some other company you kind of put that together and it's kind of more MMO than it is Elder Scrolls, like this was made by Bethesa. Right, this is kind of a Fallout game and it sort of just kind of came out. Everybody said it

was bad, and a lot of people sort of moved on forever. And it's nice that I did again find the second wind of sorts and it's still going. But you can't imagine that world or fall six. Fall seventy six was some big, big game. Yeah. I wound up buying Fallout three, Fallout four, and Dow Vegas on Steam because they're super duper cheap right now, Yes, and I was about to fire up New Vegas, but then I was like, no, you know what I want to save.

I want to experience it with grub for the first time because Greb. We're planning on streaming it this Thursday, this Thursday. Nice, Yes, it's happening. That's awesome. We're gonna flood it with mods like you did. Yes, at least for this first episode. I'm gonna flood it with mods. I'll be able to turn some of those off if we keep going with it and we want to experience some of that stuff, Vanilla. But yes,

there will be a lot of mods on this episode for sure. Okay, I want to fire it up so bad because maybe three episodes deep into the Fallout show, and my knowledge of Fallout is just through cultural osmosis. I just know pit Boys, vaults, the old timey Wymy songs. And then Walter Goggin. Walton Goggins is in the show. Real real, Jeff really put me on blast with the wal that I don't know, just really let me have it, which is fair. Yo. I fucking love that

man, dude, He's so what a great character actor. Hu Yeah, he's my favorite. I loved him in TV show. Yeah, movie was good too, fantastic. Oh, Hateful Eight, he's great. He's one of the Hated Eight. Anyway, I was gonna I'm gonna ask you boys and the audience at home. After you know, we check out the beginning parts of New Vegas. Should I like just embark on New Vegas myself if I want like to scratch that Fallout itch? Or should I go to three

four people are gonna tell you do Vegas is yeah? Generally the one. Yeah. I always wonder what Bethesta thinks about that that everybody's favorite falloff game is the only what they didn't make in the last twenty years. I was listening to a podcast where someone who would be in the no said, oh, yeah, they don't like that. No they I wouldn't like that.

And also, like I bet Bethesta just thing like scoreboard. We're like, look at the sales and look at the Metacritic and stuff, because fall Out seventy six got nailed at the beginning for having a lot of bugs and stuff more buggy than even Bethesta New Vegas did not New Va. Yes, right, exactly, like it's that's It's metacret to this day is like kind of like low eighties or something maybe mid eighties now. But yeah, like at the time, the main story at that game was this is really buggy,

and it was. But now that's not an issue, and now no one cares. It's all about like you could do so much more in New Vegas. So yeah, okay, all right, Yeah, I'm mostly looking forward

to wacky shenanigans that I've been told have happened. Did you see uh this thing where like the like somebody in charge of Fallout four was like, by the way, like your player character was this guy in like the Fallout one intro and it's like some super cop who stands next to another super copy like shoots the civilian and then like last and like high fives or whatever, and then everybody's like the guy's a war criminal and we should be like, oh,

you are all taking it too serious. It's like did you begin to walk it back or something. Well, look it's not like that's not like really canon, but yes we did, Like I at one point the person in charge of Fallout four did consider that to be my canon anyways, But I don't know. I always laugh at it. It's like, oh, I didn't think you would all take this so seriously. It's like, I mean they're gonna take you know, they're they're gonna take it a little seriously.

Yeah, going from one jaunty dilapidated World to another. I've been playing Harold Halibut came out yesterday. This is not quite what I was expecting it to be. Is it a video game? Gianochow answer the question, I mean you move Harold Hallibit around. So there's some mini games. You talk to people and you go in to point A to point B, and sometimes you got to figure out where the person is, so point B might be point e instead. So it's a point click adventure kind of No. Is

it a walking sim kind of Yeah. I think it's more walking sim than a point click adventure. It's more of a walking diorama. Yeah. For folks that don't know the game we're talking about, this is I think this was shown at a Summer game Fest two three years ago now, yeah, and it's been in it's been in the works for something like ten to fourteen years or something like that. Yeah, And that part shows in the visuals

because this looks like a stop motion movie as you were playing it. I want to see I want to eventually see the behind the scenes of some of this stuff because it's absolutely insane how they were able to transport what looks like stop motion characters, and from the little bits of behind the scenes that the developers have put out there, it does look like they've taken those models, scan them into three D, and then just let you loose in the little

dioramas they've made. If you're a fan of Wes Anderson, if you've liked Fantastic Mister Fox at all, Grand Budapest Hotel, like the little playhouseho, that's right, Clay specifically, claymation Scott is an m effort to jam yeah, Gumby, get that dude out of here. I will melt that ship asap. Fantastic Mister Fox. Wow, I cuss and love that movie. But Harold halibit not a lot of actual game going on, Grub as you're alluding to. It is a lot of sitting there listening and then talking to

virtually everyone there. The game does have a lot of character, has a lot of whimsy fantastical elements. You are Society on a ship that escaped Earth, not escaped Earth, flat Earth because bad mumbo jumbo stuff was going on Earth. And then your ship, the Fedora one, has traveled through space and you're kind of just like a maintenance dude walking around and fixing miscellaneous things. And that is kind of the game. You were kind of just like

sitting and just like experiencing the story. There's not a lot of point and clicky interact with the environment stuff, which is kind of a bummer because the environments look great, like they look like handmade dioramas, Like you can see the rough edges in some of like the corners or even the painting. Sometimes, like you know, with with certain stop motion you can see where someone had just adjusted like a face or like a scene or whatever, and you

can see that as it's going on. But you're kind of just at the whim of the game to listen to the dialogue take place. And even if you like button through as you're reading the subtitles, it's still going to kind of fast forward play the like stop motion dialogue. Right. I mean, this is what I'm wondering, Like, when you're moving the character around the world, is like movement? Does that feel like you're holding down the play button on a video? Uh No, you you have like full control of

character. It is very weighty though, Like, uh sure I could forgive that, I think to a certain extent, But I think the other thing that for me would be okay, then these worlds do look immaculate and really well designed. Yes, what is my interactivity level with that? Can I go and like mess around with the things that I find interesting when I look at it? Yeah? Related, I not to just challenge you on this, but like I brought the trailer here and look at the screenshots, it

looks very lucasartsy to me. So I'm curious for why you would say it's not much of it. There's limited and there's no puzzles. There's no puzzles. It's just it is. That's why I think when you say point and click, and I think that's what you're bringing up, right, Sean, I think what people assume, yeah, there is there's there is an inventory system, and you are solving puzzles using that stuff in this game doesn't seem to have anything. I guess that's not You're right, that is a big

part of what those games are. I guess that's not what I immediately go to when I think of those games. Mike would be very quick to talk about. But when I think about stuff like say Monkey Island for example, that's where I think it's more about the dialogue. Sure, So Mucky Owen is it's very much like that inventory stuff is still a big component, it's

still there. Yeah, I know this is maybe more of a meving, but that's just like what I think of when I know, maybe it's more like that Telltale style of an adventure game, right where it is like just walking around and talking. Yeah, it is more like that Telltale adventure game, except you're not really choosing specific dialogue options. There's not a lot of like choosing for the player to do specifically, and you're not interacting with the

environment a lot. You're interacting more so with the characters. And you can talk to pretty much anyone and they'll they'll have like different dialogue bits as you interact with them depending on where you or in the story, So like it won't just be the same can dialogue of like oh hey Harold, oh hey Harold. It'll it'll be bespoke to the certain situation you're in. And like the the comedy is there. It's really it's really quaint. It's really dry

as well, which I kind of get down with. It's very punny. It has all the things to be a very to be a game or an experience that really appeals to me just the game aspect, there's not a lot there. So would you say that's more of like a visual novel then, like maybe Thirteen Sentinels E is sort of what I'm trying to teenagers. Well,

yeah, definitely not. There's too many in this game. Well like in Thirteen Sentinels I feel like in those tableaus even like there was more interactivity, like you're kind of like hunting around of like, all right, which thing am I supposed to interact with here? Sure? But Harold Holbot, primarily you were kind of doing like a mini game. Occasionally that mini game is very sparse, like you're just moving stuff around or you're just just taking

care of menial chores. Because Harold Halibut is like a repair man on the ship. It's got it. It's oozing character. And my favorite thing about the game is the most disgusting thing about the game is how you fast travel or the mode of op transportation. You get flushed in a tube. Oh yeah, that's fun. I always like Chris. I have a confession. Yes I've heard. I've been hearing people talk about this game for a while. I didn't really know what it was and just assumed it was a fishing

game for months now. Oh no, that's fair. Same, it's got a fish right in the name. Yeah, yeah, that's how I prayed was well, yeah, clearly it's a fishing game. You just played as a fish, yeah, like David, David. Yeah, So last this on the s Fedora. Why is this ship called the Fedora out this game? I think just because it's like it's funny, ha ha Fedora. You say malady at some point, No, no one says malady. Okay,

he hasn't hit the horn on the ship that goes lady. Actually, but like I don't know how, you know, I'm playing catch up on a bunch of games, right, Like I want to finish Infinite Wealth, I want to finish Rebirth, and this Harold Halibut seems like a game to just kind of like you should sink your teeth into when you have the time, because you're pretty much just experiencing the story. And as far as I have heard, it goes anywhere from like ten to twelve hours, so it's like

you're you're kind of buckling up for a pretty lengthy experience. I feel like maybe this could have been an episodic joint and maybe that would have been more palatable because like Kentucky Roots zero, that's kind of maybe. Oh yeah yeah, Tailtale Games, Yeah what what like, what's that squareness game? True Collers True? Oh oh, Gode strange. Yeah. There's not a lot of drama in the game though, so it's not maybe doing an episodic nature

like that wouldn't wouldn't lend itself well. But like, hey, it looks fantastic. I feel like the worksmanship coming from the game definitely, and like the writing is done very well, just like the game aspects. It's just I mean then, like I do feel like I would also be hung up in that same exact spot as you jam where I'm like the game aspect, but for what it's going for. Do you think they execute on that, because it sounds like they're not going for like Dewey game. It's like,

hey, it's a talkie game. For what they're going for, do you think they nailed it? Are you happy with the execution? I think they

they nailed it. I think this is it's probably a case of me having misaligned expectations because when I see something that looks like a diorama and stop motion, my mind immediately is pouring towards like Wes Anderson inspired stuff, and they're definitely pulling from like the Wes Anderson camp in terms of some of the aesthetic presentations and stuff, but it's not it's kind of missing that snappiness that like a Wes Anderson movie would have because you are kind of trudging along and Harold

moves very slowly and right, like the timing for like the dialogue probably isn't there. Yeah, yeah, but like all the voice acting is great. You one of the first people you would inter interact with. I forget his name, but he's like a set of like triplets, I think, and they just go by their numbers and you just see them in multiple spots just doing different. Can't just spring up triplets while Chat is already talking about Huey

Dewey and Louie. Yeah, what is happening? Welcome Mike. We're revealing to you right now that you've been in a Truman show. Ads about to get excited, but yeah, Harold, Hall of It. It's out on PC, it's out on consoles, I hear. Unfortunately, console performance kind of chugs, but like that very visual heavy game, So maybe that's why

Jan I have one last question on this. Do you do you cond of just like not have a ton of experience with games like this, Like you don't have much to compare to. Yeah, I've always been curious about Day of the Tentacle, Grim Fandango, all that jazz, but didn't have a PC growing up. Definitely enjoyed all the Tailtale games, specifically the Walking Dead ones. How sad for that guy once I should have stole stuff from his house. But yeah, like, uh, don't have too much of a

frame of reference. Like when we did of Thieves for Escape from Monkey Island, I was like, Oh, this is so hilarious. They should make games like this, just a ton of adventure games, because like you mentioned last year with Little Goody two Shoes that you sort of like didn't really know what the game was supposed to be. And when I got around to playing, because I was looking forward to I checked out, I was like, Oh, because it's sort of a visual novely adventure game. Maybe Jan just

doesn't play a ton of though, so he doesn't. He's just even turn I just pressed the button. Let Mike say his thing. Yeah, Secret of Monkey Eye Jam Okay, Okay, it's growing on me. Grim This is easier though, grim Jan Dango, That's easy. Oh god, that's what I was talking with Kurt about how amazing Griffin Dango was on the last one voicemailed dump Truck. Yeah, and god, I'm I played to Grifford Dango so many times. When the best games ever game so good, it's

so good, it's it's the pinnacle of that classic style of Mikey. I feel like I hear you talk about Grim Fandango a lot if I were to, if I'm at a crossroads here, Grim Fandango. They have the Tentacle. Oh so my history Day of the Tentacle is intense because that's the first adventure game I played. It just randomly picked it out from a software et cetera, because it does you can get a computer game if it's like not too much. I was like, oh, this one looks colorful and cute,

and I love Data tent that randomly picked it up. That's cool, Yeah, Data Tentacle that you just triggered me. It's like that right to me? Mean, just say, Day of the Tentacle I had. I had a fan site for Data Tentacle called because Data Tancles Dot it's called dot com. It's pretty good for folks for audio listeners. You can't see it, but I'm currently shrunk down and I'm on Mike Manati's head like kind of shifting him to do certain things right now, Like, yeah, so it

works out. I don't have any hair, your headphone cable. There you go. You have dot com? Did you dot dot com? You didn't have a dot com? Dot com? There's no way I was able to afford it. Dot com. It's probably something like bullshit, yeah or something. Yeah, yeah, Nerd has a dot jay. Would you be talking? Would you be talking about playing off air or on air? Either?

I mean, because Grim Fandango, I feel like at this point in time you kind of need someone helping you out with that, and I will be done that exactly you saying now, Mike would be good for that because there's some puzzles in there you will never get unless you Yeah, all those games you did, like trust me, we were all using game facts back then. You would just get stuck sometimes. But I've played through all these games

multiple times. So Grim and Dango is like a Cosa Blanca parody with a lot of like fun Mexican like like folklore and stuff like that, and then Day of the Techacle is more like Texas Avery Saturday Morning cartoon silliness. Oh, very good, just slightly different flavors. I would probably say do date Day of the Tentacle first you can experience some of the arc of the Revolved.

I think that's probably the right move. Day of the Technacle has some Founding Father stuff in it, so it's technically a Wharf of July game. Oh I like that. There I go Day of Janticle and then playing phant Division and just having fireworks go off and we'll celebrate the fourth of July that way. Last thing on the visual novel stuff, Jan, have you played don Gan Rampa? No? Okay, so I just yeahs brought in the chat Jang and Rampa. So I've heard that like Dan may also be baffled

by some of the Dungan ropa bullshit. Hear me out here, folks, Dan, Jan Rompa, Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it, and I'll be your guide through those fantastic that's the one with like the bear right yeah, Mana Kuma Okay, there we go. Lovely lovely, uh. Speaking about Sean playing a guide for all of us here at gb Sean you put here Hell Divers two still rules, and I agree with you. Yeah. Yeah, I'm definitely not the guide on this one, y'all.

My guide through this one. Uh yeah, I've just you know, we're in a at least are into my calendar and the games I'm looking forward to. We're in like a slight lull here as we get to a couple of games at the end of the month and then a couple at the end of next month. We're as slightly slower periods. So I am finally getting around to finishing some of the games that I want to finish, Like I'm still

trucking through like a Dragon. I might be putting Unicorn Overlord on the shelf for now, not putting it down, but just shelving it for a second, because like a Dragon runs really well on steam Deck. That might just be I might just play it on my TV and Steam Deck when I want some handheld time. So I think Unicorn Overlord not super clicking with me. I'm a little bit further still now I'm close to ten hours into it, and I think, yeah, I might put down for now because it's very

unfocused. I feel it's like all of the Tactics games, the Tactics Game, and I think it might just be doing a little too much and maybe I'm just not in the mood for that right now. But as I get through all these different games at health, Avers Too is the other one that's really sticking with me. Had game night with friends last night. We just played three hours straight of More Hell. Yeah, it was so much fun.

Just I love I do prefer games that are a bit more guided, not super linear all the time, you though, Sometimes I like that. Sometimes, I like, you know, when Final Fantasy tends to be a little more linear, not quite till level thirteen, but maybe like a ten, you know, something like that. Yeah, I like when games are like that. But here with Hell theres too something about it. I love

that you just need to figure some things out on your own sometimes. Oh yeah, like we were doing what is the first time that any of us had seen a mission because my friends are just playing with me. So I'm a little bit further had im having done that stream last week figuring out how to destroy the fuel silos on one of those you know, like destroyed the encampment missions, yep, And we're figuring out how do we do this?

Do we call in the orbital strike? What are we doing? And then I noticed there's this new stratagem there, like, oh, hell bomb. Oh okay, this makes much more sense. Call that in, you know, arm that thing and then run away and the whole thing blows up. It's so much fun. And she was like, what that game could be like because like when we played Sean, we definitely used the hell bomb to destroy stuff like two or three times. But there's so much going on.

It's like you were just worried about your own stuff. So when Mike's like, I'm getting help bomb, and I'm like, okay, I'll activate it. I saw you drop it. It's very easy. But like, okay, they're taking care of their bullshit, I'll focus on my bullshit. I just wasn't exactly And that happens all the time. You were doing as my friend likes to call it his faan of reference, you were doing the Warrior

where mini games. Yeah, I was defending the rest of the team from the robots that were coming in, and so I just wasn't even thinking about so having to do that myself and made that connection. It's very satisfying and Max would feel like they're they got their job right, and that's there's a big, I think, a big appeal there where it's like, Okay, I can just do my part and everyone else. You know, if your job is reloading somebody else's weapon, which was stupid, it's actually really fun

very Oh yeah, carrying that supply backpack. You were an MVP on that team, and Chat pointed out that they got grubbed to blow up a hell bomb in that stream that we well last night my friend found side like I was like, oh, what's this? Can I like break it up? I'm like no, no, no, no no. It's like a nuke goes off and from us and we're all dead, even though we were a mile away. It was insane and they nailed it. Yeah. God, I need I need to find an excuse for us to stream that game so

I can hop in. Yeah, I need to do like hew, like hell Divers Tuesdays or something I don't want to to Thursdays or something. I don't know. We'll find a reason to go back the neat thing that I've noticed too, because I'll get some hell divers to videos popping up on my my TikTok algorithm. Sometimes I'll notice someone is like super high level in the game, but they're still using like the beginning machine gun stratagem that you like

drop with and like the supply back. I'm like, all right, if this person can like be high level and get down with the same thing, okay, And that shows you, like what kind of a game they're making as well, where it's that's how like Call of Duty for Modern Warfare worked, where it's like everyone's like, oh my god, you have to play to unlock these guns, so people who play longer can have an advantage over me. It's like, that's not how it works. Those guns are balanced

in such way. All this is really doing is just giving you a chance to drip feed new stuff so you can learn the stuff that you do have. And if you learn these basics, you're gonna be fine. And so really what we're doing is we're just giving you like a step ladder to step up to like learn the game, and that's the real improvement that you're making, not getting some new gun. And I think that's mostly true in Health

divers too. There's definitely some weapons that people have favored and they've done some rebalancing all that stuff, but they rebalance for this purpose because they want everything to feel valid when you're playing yep, lovely, lovely. Next game I have here on the docket is a little bit of a preview Tales of Canzarazau put this down. Yeah, I wrote this down. We talked a little bit about it on a rev Engines last week I played a little bit more

so I think I'll recapital quick. This is a Metroid Vena. It's got that African futurism, a sort of a vibe that I think people have been more and more finding more appeal in recently, and it's finding like it's a foothold in a lot more media and all that stuff really works for me. The thing that was surprising to me as like, Okay, this is a

Metroid Vena are the choices it makes that aren't Metroid Venua. Like there's no save silos that you go into like in a Metroid or a Castlevania, So that like mixes up the feeling of the pacing a little bit and the upgrades you're getting. It's like you start with a double jump, you start with a dash, and so the other kinds of upgrades you're getting are feel a

little bit different than a metroid vena. It's like, man, I'm like not accustomed to this, this scaling up of how my character works, and so it's like it kind of like put me off on a wrong foot, I think to begin with. And as I'm getting more into the flow of that stuff, I think it's like, Okay, I get what they're going

for and it's still really working. And the fundamental aspect of a metroid venue where it's like, Okay, I know I need to go to this part of the world and I know what I'm going to accomplish by getting there, and so that like magnetic pole is still there and that's kind of all I really need at the end of the day. So I was surprised how it shifted up the gears on a metro advena genre. Did you guys find that

at all in your preview attempts? So I have just started out of this, so I played a little bit of it, So don't I haven't really got far enough to like get a sense of that progression. But you're right, like you do have more tools to start out with, and like, so far, I haven't like found some area where it's like, oh, I can't get through here, and so I get you know, and I've

been playing for about like four or five hours. Nice. But what I am liking it and what is really sticking out to me is the kind of dual combat system right where, yeah, you know, you have like the shooty style, you have the Mega Man style and the zero style. Right, That's how I think of it. It's like Mega Man X stuff to me, because like the ones the very melee focused one and the other one is the ranged one. You can switch between them at will. So that's

what's immediately appealing to me. But otherwise it's just you know, it's really snappy. The platforming does feel good. I don't know if it frill is just good as the Lost Crown Jin, but it feels very I let it cook. But yeah, I'm I'm pretty happy. I'm excited to play more. Yeah, yeah, I want to dive dive all the way in and see the other uh movement abilities that might unlock, because I mean, if a game starts you off with a double jump in an air dash, they

gotta have goodies. The one thing, like like Jeff Betches before, it is very much like the We're gonna have We're gonna look at two JPEGs talking at each other a lot kind of metrova, especially the start, and like, I feel bad being annoyed at that when it is clearly a kind of emotional and personal story, especially and it's not like it's being told poorly.

It's it seems like a good story. But I am always like, I bet we could have done this, like in a more classic betray ving a kind of like background sort of way that I find more interesting than just a little dialogue boxes and dialogue moments. They still definitely still have that. Later on, they shift that up a little bit, and again I will talk pretty vaguely because this is a preview. They shift that up a little bit

later on. So it does mostly happen when you are running around the world, which is why I had to switch the language from key Swahili, which they spelled it with a key Swahili, which is the same thing as Swahili. Apparently I didn't realize that I switched to English so I could play the

game while they're doing the talking. They were doing that so frequently, so they do kind of lean into that a little bit late later, and then I will also say I'm finding the story to be pretty moving about like at the point I'm in, I was feeling the exact same way as you, Mike early on, and I'm like, oh, they are hitting some of these moments really well. It's also leaning into the metro a Maana style of like, oh, this conversation I just had really adds a propulsion to the

action here. It makes me want to keep exploring. So I've been pretty impressed by that stuff. So you know, we'll talk about yeah, like, you know, it's a good story, so I mean, you know Prins of Perssia had. It's not any more than what Prince of Persia was doing. And obviously I love that game. So it's very far from some

like deal break or even really some like negative. It's just something that at first I find a little bit like, I don't know if this is the right way speaking about a gripping story, touching, pulling on the heart strings. I see this on the dock here, and I was pumping my fist when I saw it. Treasure playing it for the PS two. Yeah,

I was like, play this. It looked Mike, Okay. When I watched you play this on your Twitch, I was like, this kind of looks like just a lot of those other PS two games, maybe a bit of Jack, maybe a bit of Sly Cooper. What is this game like? What are they most trying to ape deaf? I think Jack and Dexter like dek Decks are one is definitely the first reference point. But you know so. Treasure Planet was a Disney animated movie from the kind of early two

thousands. It's an adventure movie if you're not a sickle like me. Again, I was getting this in my chat constantly. Everybody gets this mixed up with Atlantis from also from Disney or titan Ae. It was Warner Brothers, so Fox. It was real funny because there was Yeah, I think it was Fox. There was a There were just a ton of these, like two D animated adventure movies for kind of like older kids or teenagers. It was a trend instigated by nothing because all of these movies did poorly. There's

also a sindbad movie by DreamWorks that nobody even remembers. They all did poorly, but they're all very good actually, Tally Yeah, and Treasure Playing in Atlantis, like all of them have been reconsidered. They're all cult classics now, but at the time this was a licensed game based off a movie that very few people had seen, made by Bizarre Creations. I think it's the

Project Gotham racing people the Blur people. Oh yeah, and yeah, it's it's it's pretty good actually for what for these right, you kind of usually expect something a little cheaper, but the platforming does feel very snappy and responsive, and it's a you know, the Collecti font style where you're going to these levels. There's like five objectives that you can do and you only need to really do so much to progress, but I like to to do all

of them. And the you know, visuals are pretty nice. This treasure Planet has that whole like hey, pirates, but in space vibe, so you know, the old some of the new, and that's being captured here really nicely. And then there are some levels where you're on your solar Solar surfer right, hell, yeah you are, it's just there. They're Tony Hawk levels, and of course it doesn't feel as good as Tony Hawk,

but it's pretty fun and it's faster than that. It's a different vibe, but it's the character even like starts off as like wow, look, at all these things you can do here, but you can collect five of the green energies, or you can go and get a score of you like, wow, here's the hitting a dress tape. What's that? Right? Is it light Tony Hawk where you're doing tricks as well, or is it morally

Jack two or some sort of just some means of transportation. Probably it's not means transportation because like it's just that whole level and you can't get off it. It's but tricks. The tricks aspect is pretty minimal, but you can like grind and stuff. Okay, yeah, Mike, is is their voice acting in it? It is? There's voice acting in it. Seems like they got most of the people right. So David Hyde Pierce, who's a major character in this is in here. I think it's Joseph Gordon Levitt as

Jim Hawkins, the main character. Yeah, yeah, so it all sounds very good. You know. Of course they have the full motion video clips from the movie You gettulf that. Yeah. I think as far as these kind of licensed three D platformers, which at the time were such a dime a dozen rights, so I don't you know, of course not people weren't paying attention to this game then and now it's like, man, we don't really get games like this anymore. Playing one of these now really hits.

But I definitely think this is on the upper end of how good those games usually were. Yeah. Yeah, I'm really happy that people are sort of people are willing to go through these back caalog of games and look at them for what they are nowadays, because back in the day we just saw them as shovel where or whatever, don't even pay attention to it. But now that people are exploring more classic games that they never checked out, or revisiting ones that they wrote off, I'm happy to see. I think like a

big one is the Nightmare Before Christmas PS two game. They cry like it's awesome, Yeah, so cry with musical boss fights. Yeah, it's like a narrative sequel to the movie. Yeah, just like straight up is, Like, I think it's canonically a sequel. They got some of the voice sectors and everything, so I have a lot of voice sectors. Yeah. I think that that era of gaming is cool to go back to. It's one of the reasons I'm looking at getting some Moji hardware and doing some stuff

with that. Well, just even like like the idea of like a three D platform or tie into a movie. It used to be like, because we can make a video game in like nine months, and I was like, no, you can't yet. I think that's why people are like looking back at these things so fondly these days, because I think we'd kill to have this sort of thing be a regular thing. Now, Now what do

we What do we get? Nowadays? We get like the Way Forward Mummy game and right, and then we get a lot of mobile games, and then occasionally Guitar and Star Wars getting and even then, like when you get like a license game, it's always like, well, it's set in the world of this but it's kind of its own news thing and that's nice too, But in its like never comes out the same time as a movie because that's impossible. I mean, they can't even line up a new Fallout game

coming out. Remember Twisted Metal came out and it was a hit, and there was just no Twisted Metal game for people to go and buy. There's nothing people would do with that. Yeah, the Suicide Squad game got delayed. It feels like because I got the kids, we go to McDonald's get happy meals, a lot, and the toys in there are always kind of depressing, and it feels like these games were the happy meal toy version of

video games, and there was something not magical. I don't want to oversell it, but there was something nice to kind of have, like know and rely that those things are going to be there if you want to spend more time in that world. It hit the dopamine. How dare you downplay the Crash Bash toys that they had? It is weird. The multi versus is like, was the last toys related to video games that they had A McDonald's now was very wild. That's wild. I'm looking at a video of a

playthrough of this and this is just Jack and Dexter. There's I mean, this joint that is all. I love that about these licensed games as well. On it's like it's just going to be another game. Like I just started that Hotel Transylvania three with the kid and it's just Pickman. And I know there's some people are gonna yell at me about Rlow. I don't watch Arlow. I'm sorry. I didn't know he did a video about that,

so I'm sorry. I had the same revelation that he did in a video, but uh, it was like this just straight up places like Pickman that this is the whole game and she's playing it and enjoying it. My Stitch game on PS one that's just crashed Bandicod. There's a lot that are just crashed. The l and Stitch on g b A. The Stitch portions are just metal slug. It's really good. Like, okay, man, I'm like that. Or Alien Hamid would have been a good fit for that.

Okay. There's also a PS one Treasure Planet that's a different game entirely and not supposed to be very good. And then there's a Treasure Playing game on PC that's a RTS real time strategy game. Apparently not only when we get we get like multiple ones each platform. You could have your own bespoke one of these. Why not? God? But oh man, I smell a license to thrill. Yeah, it's time, it's time to bring it back. Yeah. By the way, it was Crash Team Rumble I was talking

about. I was like, that's crash Bash is not that game? What is what the hell is? Forgive and forgetting? Nobody nobody remembers Crash Team Rumble from last year. Not a bad game, but how to keep anybody asked for? Fortunately, oh Moussata in the chat brings us up that the early Harry Potter games were also very different. I remember checking it was it was either the game Boy game Boy Advanced ones, and like, the first spell you learn is flipendo, And I'm like, what the fuck. I've

read the books, I've watched the movies. No one ever says this fucking spell? What is flipendo? Really upset about the lore, very upset as you you know, I up. I think there were Atlantis games too, right, Mike, Like, I remember an adventure one. There was an Atlantis game on PS one. Yeah, and then there was a first person shooter prequel on PC and there was a standalone demo for that that came with

Cereal. I remember. So, yes there were Atlantis games also, hell yes, uh well, last thing on the dock at I see here, Shawn, you have a secret project. What are you doing? What are you doing? So? What happened partners your nose? I'm sorry, no, no, but why did Mike do the butt clapping sound? You still not understand what that is? Don't worry about it. I leave. I thought Sean was into low punny and now he's talking about buckets of pain.

Oh, this is right. We haven't We haven't talked since I outed you as the Megalopini fan that you are trying to deflect towards me Ja. Don't worry, everyone knows your secret shame now is that the secret project? No secret project? What do y'all know about the Virtual Boy? A lot? Yeah? I had one very excited about it. Yeah. So, uh, red Viper is this new emulator for the virtual Boy on the three DS? Yes? Yes, yeah, And this is the thing that's been done

before. I think this is a different project, pretty sure, but this one has been very meticulously created. You can change a lot of different things in here. You neednd just how the three D works. It'll change the what the slider does on your three DS, so you neither get like a three D effect like the three DS usually has, or basically an even more intense version that just one to one simulates what it would be like having a virtual boy up to your eyes. It is wild the work that they put

into this. And you can you can change the color from just I searing red on the back background to you make it black and white, which is your one if you' you can change it to there's a there's an RGB color selector. You can make it the same color as bucketsho if you wanted to. But I just fired up, like every US Virtual Boy game when I download this to my three D. How much wan the world? Did you play? Shit? If I ever think about bike, I played like five

mists. That game is not good, like most games on the Virtual Boy once't you know? It not that great? Jeff Process pretty okay. T rod Boxer was neat because it's sort of punched out any first person view. Uh, there's Galactic Pinball I think it's called, which is just a bad pinball game. Kind of like it. Jeff Beckler would be offended by this game because the entire game, Yeah, the entire game is just what if a pinball board is just the flippers and then the things up top what you

call them, is that the bumpers or whatever? That's that's the board game three D but in three D exactly. That's what so many these games were, even the first party ones weren't that great. Mario Tennis does not feel good on Virtual Boy. Mario Clash is not a good game, very weird. I like, I liked Mario Clasham. Did you have a Virtual Boy my Virtual Boy? Hey? Yeah, question why was it red? Because

that was the cheapest led they can make back then? Okay, fair enough, but like blue was like still very expensive, if not like nascent at that point, so yeah, they were far away from color. That scale is good though, Yes, that's the one I was going to bring up.

Is Warrior Land on Virtual Boy is just Warrior Land, and it's way more fidelity than the Game Boy games because the Virtual Boy actually had a decent amount of power in it because they were sort of positioning it as a right, Yeah it was thirty two bit yeah, but yeah, lower power form factor or whatever. So it's somewhere between a hand held and a console. It does very basic graphics. But now Warrio Land game it looks great.

It feels just like the Game Boy Warrior Lands, you know, which one is kind of its own thing, and then two and three are basically the same, and then four is kind of its own thing. It feels like two and three. It feels like the slightly more advanced Warrior Land games. And you know, Warrior Land is a interesting platformer because it's a little slower paced, or you're not immediately jumping and doing challenging platformers a platforming especially right

away. But it's you know, it's gotten vibe to it. It's kind of the first Jimmagammy tense game to come out the US. Checks. Yeah, I played Jack Brothers and that's us. That's that game is weird. I don't I had a jam moment. What is this game? Was it supposed to be? I don't know. Yeah, I think it's I guess it's like a puzzle game sort of, but it's a little unclear what genres

they're combined. There Again, most these games I just played for like ten minutes, and then warial Land is the way I spent a lot of time. Wasn't there a Bomberman puzzle game on Virtual Boy? But maybe I don't know that, maybe a Japan only one or I just got to download it when I went downline, I'll remember. But there was there was a Tetris. There was Tetris three D ar yes, yeah, which is weird because, yeah, you're placing the three D blocks in this not quite cylinder but

sort of a cylindrical shape. It's very odd. There's a R game coming out that is exactly that, where it's like a cylindrical Tetris mike. You're saying, you imagine, like the Virtual Boy was around for like three years, even what kind of weird shit would have been on there, Like there would have certainly been a Star Fox game. There may have been. Is

that a game on the Virtual Boy? Can you imagine? Guys? That was the neat thing when I was on a certain website downloading these Virtual Boy games because lord knows, you can't find them ayar away for a reasonable price or anything nowadays. Although you can't buy the entire library, I think it would only be like a few hundred because there's only like fifteen games on the

thing. People have ported other games to the Virtual Boy that wouldn't make sense for the era, like there is a Star Fox like Fanny port To and stuff. So yeah, a lot of them are just demos, not complete games, just fan projects. But it is neat to see that there's this little community taking advantage of this weird, unique hardware. I think that's I

just think that's cool. I remember going to a Toys r Us and being super excited to try out a Virtual Boy, and God, bless my mom tried to make the money move where she could to like help help me buy games and stuff. But she looked at that and she was like, Jerome, let me tell you something about uh stuff not lasting. That shit ain't gonna last. Mom made the right choice. It was that in the thirty two X. Yeah. Wow, Mama smart. I'm smart, just like

you know what? Just save for a PS one son He right? Cool? All right, folks, That about it for games. We're gonna take quick bricky break and we'll be back with some video game news right after this. And we have returned with the show, and Jeff Grub has come from the pantry fully stocked with news. Look at that he's bouncing five different types of pasta, a jar of pickles, and stories all in one arm. What a dad. First, you gotta eat your stories before you get your

treats. So I got some headlines here for you. This is like more a recap of stuff that we knew. I guess the confirmation a corroboration if you will. Sony's PS five pro is real and developers are getting ready for it. The Verge I was able to get their hands on some more information that basically lined up with everything we've heard so far. Sony is getting set to release a more powerful PS five console co named Trinity later this year.

The PS five Pro will feature a more powerful GPU, slightly faster CPU mode, and improved system memory. The console is expected to deliver better ray tracing performance, higher resolutions and frame rates in certain games. Basically everything will require an update though a patch if it's going to take advantage of this, although I expect that's going to be the big push this holiday. Developers are already being asked to ensure their games are compatible with the PS five Pro, with

a focus on improving ray tracing. The PS five Pro will also support Sony's new PlayStation Spectral Super Super Resolution, which is PSSR. That sounds like dls Yeah, Pit Pizzar, that sounds like d lss tu. That's for a reason. It is basically their version of that, and that's going to be a big focus for them as well. I think on improving performance across a bunch of games. Where we're at with the PS five Pro. We keep hearing about the hardware, We're not hearing a lot about like other games are

going to go alongside this. You guys have the sense that they are going to launch this thing and pretty much be like, Hey, all your old games run better now, and that's going to be the focus, because I don't think they're going to have like some big marketing game to go along with it, right, maybe can we have a little astro as a treat at least that seems guys like, well, because its a pro, it's not going to be exclusive, right, assuming that they follow the same as PS

four pro, So what that's the thing? On purpose? Would it serve? I just I also don't know what features, because like the whole idea of ASTRO for people who are unaware is like, so far these games have been, hey, we have a little thing that comes with the PlayStation. Move had something right early on there was like some ASTRO stuff in there.

YEAHS four launch, Yeah, yeah, and then right so you could like it would be in the controller and you can like have it behind the touch pad and like it was showing off the touch pad that sort of thing. And they did that with PSVR obviously, and then and then they did with PS five as as launch thing to show off the features of the haptics and the triggers. I don't know what they would need, like you don't really

need Astro to show off ray tracing, but I guess you could. But if they're doing that, that makes it feel even more tech demoe, and I think maybe it's just like, hey, maybe there is nothing to shops like. I guess we just have to make a real, like full blown Astro game instead. That's why I was assume, Yeah, that's what I'm

hoping for. I'm hoping for that as well. That's probably what is happening, so okay, but that takes us back to then there's no like PS five Pro game that like, oh, you have to have that to play that. It's going to be Last of Us Part two looks better than ever. I think that's what the PS four Pro was as well. Yeah, I'm just thinking what this system is going to be usedful. I was actually

thinking about this quite a bit yesterday. I was listening to some other people talk about because you know, the PS four Pro obviously, the reason to have that was to make your games targeting ten AP look GOODF four K display, right, So what is the PS five pro here for? Is based on the specs that have leaked out or I mean basically confirmed at this point, because apparently it's come from dev portals, so he doesn't know a lot of this stuff to be true. It's not going to improve GPU power broadly

speaking. It either will in standard mode just runs the same as the PS five CPU, or you optionally can like downclock the GPU a little bit, which makes sense. Says you'll have a PSSR helping out there in order to give a little bit more juice to CPU. So if people don't know what

that tech jargon means, you're probably not getting better frame rates. You might get locked to the target frame rates a little bit better if they choose to use that alternative mode, but otherwise, if a game is CPU bound, which most console games are nowadays, is why we now have games tarting thirty fs. I don't know. This whole thing just feels weird because I know Mike really was hoping that this would be okay. You know, this is

the console. It gets us the thirty FPS games going up to sixty and seems like at a base hardware level, that's not what we're getting it. But it sounds like, oh sorry, good continue Sean. Yeah, where I was going with this is I was thinking this would be a risky move. What if some developers scale back their games and then rely on PSSR to

bring it up to where it's currently at. If you claw back the resolution and some of the detail a little bit, maybe that saves you enough computing power since everything is shared on console, to get some games running at a higher frame rate while still looking the way that they currently do at thirty fps. There's a lot of technical stuff going on here that I don't know.

I'm really really curious to see how they position this because there's as of right now, as far as we can see, it's like ray tracing cool, right, And that's like just what Jet's saying, like, oh there, tony developers, like make sure you got raid tracing. It seems like that's going to be what they're going to try to use to sell it, which I don't know how excited the average consumer is about ray tracing anymore if they ever were. No. Yeah, And the hard thing there is the same

thing it's always been difficult for ray tracing. Lighting and games already looks really good and it's going to keep looking good, and so the comparison shots are just not going to be stunning to most people and improve reflections. I mean these things that people have faked that you can now do raw dog and with ray racing, it's impressive. From a technical level, developers are going to be curious about it to the point where it will take over eventually. It's

just not something you can explain to the average person. Yeah, but I mean Devil's advocate. Devs are excited about rag racing because it's once you learn how to do it, it's easier than absolutely so that's why it will take over eventually. But right now they have to do both because racing and like you said, the average consumer just will not care whatsoever. You show them a side by side, They're like, cool, the reflection looks better.

I don't care. It's I'm not spending that money. Well, do you all I was going to ask, do you all think the general audience is tech literate enough with how much like new iPhones, phones in general get pumped out that like them, seeing PS five pro is not going to entice them to buy a whole new thing. There are going to be a good amount of people, especially like the super PlayStation fans, that are just going to

want the new model. Yeah for sure, and maybe like maybe they're hoping that that will be enough, right, you bundle that up with the holiday launch. This is a way that you can get people who already have a place Station five to buy another one, so that will juice up sales a bit at least. Now when you do that, does that help you sell

more software? Maybe a little bit, but especially when there's not going to be a whole lot of new software this year anyways, It's like it's like someone to chat somewhat jokingly point out it is going to be the people who bought the PSVR two, Like, at this point, there's not really a reason to buy that peripheral. If you want to get into VR, the Metaquest three is the way to go, even for PCVR connected to your PC, even wirelessly and broadly speaking, is a better experience than PSBR two.

But some people are in that ecosystem. They love the exclusives, and you know, if you have the money, you spend and you just want the best experience without having to learn the ins and outs of running a PC, I can see some people going for it. But yeah, it's just it's never going to hit in the mainstream. Because four pro didn't hit in the mainstream. It did decently well but I think that's just where Sony's kind of

at right now. Yeah, they just want to at least have that boutique option to make their entire ecosystem look a little more supreme astrobot rogue like, that's what's going to happen. That's what they're doing. They don't activate Jeff like that. People dilated right there because something like, all right, they made Valhalla. Valhalla is really dope. Just people circle back because there's some neat story bits in there. We already have Last of Us Part two with

the roguelike thing. What else are we going to have now? I mean, rather than klank could work well, could work very well. I dope? Please? All right? Moving ahead here a couple Final Fantasy stories. Final Fantasy seven Rebirth is quote underperforming sales wise, according to one analyst, Final Fantasy seven Rebirth PS five exclusive sequel to Final Fantasy seven Remake, has

reportedly underperformed in terms of sales. That's according to Daniel Alghamed, director of Research and Insights at Nico Partner's Rebirth is telling about half of what remakes sold in the same timeframe and has a weaker tale. Again. That's according to Daniel in comparison, Final Fantasy seven remakes sold three point five million copies in its first three days on PlayStation four, while Rebirth peaked at two point two

to one million days daily active users at launch. Square Inox has not announced official sales data for Rebirth, so a lot of this is speculation, but it's based on informed speculation. Daniel knows what he's talking about. Yeah, I was laughing pretty hard when a couple of people were going hard at Daniel on Twitter, and I was just like, Wow, what this man does

for a lis? Yeah? Do you It's worse. Even Daniel is like, look, I'm not I did say that like reburface flopping or like something, or like everyone calmed down a bit and stop yelling at me specifically. You know, all people point out there are half as many PS fives out as there were ps fours when remake came out, so of course it happened. And there is also like you know, that is the kind of the problem with doing this three parter thing and Square Nicks do this was going to

be a problem. That's why they were desperately like in the markt be like this is a great place to jump in found Fantasy seven. Why, like they knew it was a lie, but like they you know, need to kind of maybe get that hope and dream out there a bit. But now, like people generally need to play remake to appreciate Rebirth, and that's you know fine for the sort of long term, right, people are going to

keep coming to this game. But yeah, it was never gonna be something that was going to like jump out of a gate and sell five million copies in a week, even being in the nineties and Metacritic, which you think would be some kind of a big deal. Right now, it's a it's just challenging, and it is incredibly ambitious what they're doing, and I'm glad that they did it right. It's definitely the right move creatively. But yeah, it always kind of meant that sales are going to be interesting, especially

you're not going to have a PC version right away. Right this entire thing is kind of just a duh moment. It's a it's a sequel to another game. It's exclusive to one platform that you know is doing decently well if

you actually look at the numbers. But also not everyone owns it, whereas everyone owned a PS four by the time remake came out just yeah, like this just was never going to sell it as well, and I would almost argue it's doing pretty good all things considered, I would say it's doing pretty

good. Yeah. Yeah, we kind of have to have a reckoning of like what is a good selling game, because you know, there's such a weird spectrum of these games that sell forty million copies and they're just they're just on their own planet, that's their own thing. I mean, yeah, it also doesn't matter, right because what we think as good or bad, it's like what the company is, how how are they going to react to this is always what the reality actually matters, And so I it's Square Enix.

I don't know. I think that they're I mean, they're gonna see Final Fantasy seven remake trilogy through like that, that's not a question. But I wonder when they look back on it, if they'll feel good about it. I imagine that what's actually happening in this like exact moment is what happens

with a lot of trilogies. The second part does the worst financially. That's usually traditionally how it's worked, not always, but traditionally retires strikes back, which is like everyone's favorite movie ever made significantly less money than Star Wars did, and Return of the Jedi returned it. And then I think that once it's complete, everyone's like, all right, now I could show up for

the whole thing. That's what I imagine. My brain went to Attack of the Clones as my Star Wars. I think even that young come on, I'll tare you. Okay, Well, then Final Fantasy sixteen was successful in attracting younger players. That's according to the DLC director. Final Fantasy sixteen has successfully attracted a younger audience due to its act based combat system. According to the DLC director Techio Kujo Roco Cuduraco, Square Enix aimed to appeal to a

wider market by deviating from turn based combat. Survey results indicate that more people in their teams and twenties played Final Fantasy sixteen compared to previous games in the series. While future Final Fantasy games might not follow the same direction, this achievement opens up new possibilities for the development teams. Okay, I believe this. Do you think it was enough to like sort of be like, well,

this is the answer, because I don't think that's what happened. No, that's how many of these are, like now lifelong Final Fantasy fans, right right, It's almost weird, how like you would think, like, oh, like every fun facing game there's new people playing for the first time.

You almost think there'd be some kind of exponential factor there, Like every Fann Fantasy is automatically going to be the greatest best festal whenever it's trending down since twelve or eleven's take, fifteen sold very well, actually, okay, every single one podcast on so many platforms, right yeah, but like but

you know, like fourteen, right, so people play fourteen. It's like, well, it's not like those people automatically bought sixteen, even though it was made by the same team even right, So, I think it's great that you brought in new players. I wonder if it was worth the mountain. Maybe you pushed away with such an incredible departure in a lot of ways. Probably fine, But again, like what's the retention? Right, how many of these, like you know, eighteen year olds, some things are

going to be back for the next Found Fantasy when you know it. Naville clearly doesn't even look like sixteen, right, Y're not probably going to do another character action one. They're probably not even going to do another Medieval Fantasy one for a while, ten years, probably twenty years. God. I think the perspective is important here because I try to remind people Final Fantasy often doesn't do like amazingly amazingly just it has some of the most culturally important games

of all time that people think it's a gigantic series. It's almost like the Mega Man effect to an extent, where Mega Man actually doesn't sell that well, we just remember him as iconic character. Now. Granted, f F seven, ten, fifteen, and like eventually the thirteen series and fifteen are all so huge that you know, people forget. But there is a good amount of file fantasies I've done. Just okay, is that is that a milk? Is that a milk is half empty versus half folks? I think

the way I view it is like they've done in milk. You know the glass of milk is half empty? That is it? Just because you're looking at me, ask yes, but also base is it soy? I don't know, say most people imagine water in the glass, but continue Jeff, Okay, fair enough, Why do I imagine milk. All right, now

this is back on. We're gonna analyze that later tonight. I think that's the age old question when you like have those games that have like four games in a series selling north of ten million copies, to me is like, okay, well that franchise could be bigger than that going forward. And the fact that it just it does keep pulling falling back to earth. I'm like, Okay, what is happening there? I don't know. I think Partner is also sixteen is the same thing as Rebirth. It's exclusive to one platform.

Yeah, that's a big part of it, probably, yes, But I don't know. There's a part of me again like baby the class half full. It's like, hey, like, ay, a normal Final Fantasy is going to sell like three million copies or something. That's pretty good. Again, why I'm saying that maybe we need to be happier about games that's so a few million copies and every once in a while, for some reason it'll really pop off and you'll you'll have one that's sells ten million or whatever.

But I think you kind of when you go into it, maybe you have to be ready with that baseline, like Okay, maybe you know the normal case here is that we're going to move a few million cops exactly. Yeah, I think you're absolutely right about that. I do think you're also right that this is going to be a bit of a one off and related, Final Fantasy does experiment a lot. Yeah, so them trying on that is more than an action RPG is significantly more in the character action genre with

just a few little bits of RPG elements. Yeah, this is probably gonna be the only time that they do that because they know that a lot of people did not like that. I personally thought it was great. I know the as a character action game, it's not like The Pinnacle, but it's fun enough and I really enjoyed it. Uh for the most part, I have issues with like the story and everything, which is I think much more important to criticize, especially considering the team that was working at That just really

felt weird. But yeah, if you're hoping that seventeen will be something else, don't worry. It definitely will. I think it's interesting because you see the Final Fantasy competitors across the board kind of going back to be being super heavy turn based like Persona and popping off and then like a Dragon adapting that and try Drag Quest is the next Dragon Quest? I can't remember that? Is that the one? The first time they're going to like the departure from

the twelve? They said, like, oh, it's gonna be a departure and that's all they said. You don't know what they mean by that, And it might doesn't really mean anything. Based on like the tie screen type thing that they showed us, it might seem that they just mean tonally, it's gonna be a little darker. These slimes don't smile anymore. Grubby eleven they said was going to be an action RPG, and the Japanese audience that heard that at some event or whoever revolted they're like, no, no,

no, no, no. Dragon Quest is sacred. That is our turn based RPG. That chill and simple. Yeah, that's the one you don't mess with. So I I don't know they're going to actually do anything more than maybe a ATB type of yeah, switch up a question and an observation here in like a drag infinite wealth. I know you can move your characters around. Does that matter for the combat? It's position The positioning is important

totally. It can't be very important. It has like as you select an attack to hit an enemy, it has like a an arrow pointing where they'll land afterwards, so like you can knock them into something, knock them into your teammate attack. I think think of it like the one more system like is sore of how that works. I think the next file Fantasy will be

something like that. It'll feel a bit more turn based, but it will still have That's just I'm thinking of Dan as my use case here because like Dan quote quote like hates turn based games, right, but you liked if in it well for some reason, because I think there's just an active component to it. Yeah, he likes a rebirth a lot too, right, and well reburse I would be completely fine that they still if they just use

rebirth. Yeah, the battlesystem, I think basis they should. It's so good because it is just like this perfect combination of the world's like real time actiony thing and then like those moments where you stop and you issue commands. Ooh, I love that. Hear me out here, hear me out here. Since we are now a pro kingdom Hearts website, yes, beneficially declared four, we may not get direct control over a Donald and Goofy, but

perhaps other team members. Maybe, Oh interesting, you could directly control a Donald or Goofy in Kingdom Hearts three hundred and fifty eight over two and now we're an anti Kingdom Hearts. Websit again everybody we did it. We were saying, you almost Jay, he doesn't have that power, don't worry. Yeah, he's out number Yeah. Are you going to go with the news? The democracy? I guess all right, this isn't how divers there's no democracy. Yes, it's all it's anti pol last thing here from square Enix.

Screenix hopes to develop Final Fantasy seven remake Part three in about three years. That'll help, I think, because three years is not that long these days when it comes to making video games, and you sort of take that time, the intervening time, get three ready, for sure, but then you get ready to represent the entire trilogy at that point, and I think that gives them a lot of leeway to win a lot of people back. Who were who did I think get turned off by? Like I don't want

to have a cliff finger. I want everything at once. Uh, And I'll show up then, and I think I think they'll be I think they will be able to capitalize on that. That would be a quicker turnaround than rebirth to uh the Reaper, So that would be Hey, Sewan, I have a I have a bucket chron style question here when you think the reword will be in part three? Before you say, did you see that?

He They wanted to use reunion for part two, which makes sense because they say that word constantly, but then Crisis Cord stole it from them, so they couldn't. I mean, reunion should have been part three. You know how the story works now, I you know, I I watched Maximilians videos all the time, and I think I've been poisoned by him saying something along lines of like reclamation. I don't know how long, but like, like I know what it does actually start with ari but it's not like the resound

exactly. It's rare. It's a soft Yeah, I I don't know. I feel like you can't do something. I see some suggests to chat. You can't just do something as simple as like return or something like that, or how about revive? What about revenge? Yeah? Yeah, we're just using it for a podcast and nothing else, right, Yeah, they have our permission. Yeah, let it be known right now, I'm staking my claim on Revive. What does that mean, Eric, I guess I won't

say where, but actually yeah, I think yeah. I don't know they're

gonna get crazy with that. But just to cap off the story here, this makes a lot of sense to me because if you have played f F seven, you know that there's not a lot of new areas they have to create, and that was easily the hardest part of making this trilogy is making these areas that you're going to keep going back to in this game as an open world game, and in the last game as you keep returning to places even there you return to Midguar in f F seven and just have Midgar made.

They can just keep using all these assets, all these areas. So I think, yeah, I think one year ish less than than the turn around time Rebirth. That that sounds right here. Here's here's what it's going to be called, or maybe the collection with all three of them that can rebuy pretty good research. Uh Man, With with how indulgent they got with the ending of Rebirth, I can't even imagine how uh far up to get with the last Rejoice going, jan are you going to finish this game.

Are you gonna fish? I have to. I have to because like I were waiting on you by the way for the spoiler cast. I don't think we've actually said that. I know, I feel it in my bones. It's just like I'm just staring at these trun You got good games to play, man, I don't blame that's the problem the games. Uh. Meanwhile, over at Star Wars Land, Star Wars Outlaws locks jab of the Hut mission behind one hundred and ten dollars premium edition. People are people are really

mad about this game? You guys know this? Yeah, well, people get yeah, may be upset about Star Wars in general, people aren't mad nowadays, Dude, everyone needs to chill out for a second. But it's like it's that balance right where I'm like, Okay, I'm not upset about too many of these things, but people should be able to say their criticisms because usually I benefit from that. It keeps developers and publishers in check. Yes, and yet sometimes I'm like, y'all are kind of being a bunch

of dicks. Just chill out. Who cares? Yeah, Like, at a certain point either by the game or don't get to that point with this, it's like, look, it's like, yeah, it is scummy. Of course, They're like they're judging way too much for like the one mission with the recognizable character. But I'm just like, I don't care. I don't need to play a job of the Hut mission which clearly isn't integral to

the story, or let's just be the main quest line. And I'm of the opinion that we don't know based on what they've said so far, if this is like one job of the Hut mission or the job of the Hut mission. Is this like of missions and this is an extra one. If it's that case, I'm like, this is nothing. I don't care about that at all. If it's oh, Jeba, the Hut as a character you can interact with is locked behind this more expensive edition, I get that.

Complain, go ahead and complain. That's a completely valid thing. I'm also just not that worked up about it. So yeah, I think the game just looks good. I want to play it. That's where I'm at with this. I don't get what you were so and there is you know, and I get it, hey Ubi Soft is doing being Ubi stuff, But yeah, I kind of the hate boner for this game is a little a lot. I looked out Afress on the chest. And just to be clear, Job of the Hut is in the base game. It's just an

optional mission. Okay, you know that for sure. Okay, that's yeah. And just like the way this is, like I've heard some people phrases like you have to pay one hundred and ten dollars to get a Job of the Hut mission. I mean it is one thing. Look, hundred ten dollars for a premi edition. It's a lot of money. You should not spend that. But there are other things here. It is a part of

the whole ensemble of whatever this stupid expensive addition is. But yeah, like I don't know, like the special mission for the premium edition, it's been done before. It's stupid. I agree, I just don't buy it. And to be clear, like this is this type of thing has come up on just like seems like every week for a past month or so of this show. To be clear, what we're saying is it's totally cool to criticize bad business decisions you all like, but no one's going to take you seriously

if you just are raging on your social media platform. Yes, it feels like it is coming from that point of it's Ubu Soft game, and I'm that at youb Soft Games. I am like a little bit like, Okay, I get it. That feels a good opinion. We just keep to ourselves now. I don't care if it's like, oh, this game is doing a very specific thing, and if that thing is this content feels like it should be part of the game, and you're charging me extra for it

again, yell about that. I just yeah, I'm at a point where I've accepted this can't be me. Yeah, it kind of can't be me. Yeah. Just as overused and sometimes misused as a phrase is, do just vote with your wallet in this case, just wait until later. And if you don't want to play it all, just don't play it, just you know you And again, yeah you can't, but you're you're allowed to criticize it. Just yeah, no, you're not. You're not allowed to

criticize it because yours are ship Stop posting, damn it. Yeah, maybe that's a good Some people definitely need to do that. Yeah, I'm working on it, all right, I'm working on it. No, No, you get twelve podcast points with Jeff Stirred the ship with his pick, but fos sold better than final fans seven. Rebirth Thing later posted the jip of him in the backup. That was excellent tweet. Yeah, that's one.

I'm like, this is like purposely steering stirring the ship. But every normal person is going to get that, and they did for the most part. Do you know the Super Giant Games just tweeted by Haites too. Would you like for me to read that to you? Yeah? Actually, do please read that because I didn't put in the news. We saw that during the break. Thank you. Uh. We're getting close to launching Haities to an

early access. A key step price of that is our Haites two technical tests, which we plan to begin shortly, and then it's just like, hey, you should sign up for that. So Haiti's two technical tests. We did, come, don't we know and sign up for that because I want me to get picked. Yes, so don't even So that's even before early access. Is this technical test? So all right, I guess could be playable. One step closer they and they have continued to say that the early

access will launch this year. So this is a step towards that I can't even imagine. I liked Haitis so much. I can't even imagine how much I'm going to lake a Haites too. I know it's a beautiful thing to imagine, but it's like at a point where I'm like, yeah, it doesn't feel real. So the idea of actually playing it, that's going to be excellent. All Right, a bunch more headlines. We'll get through these ones. The Fallout TV show gave the Fallout games a huge player bump as

everyone remembers that they actually do like Fallout. This has happened across all the games. Fallout for a New Vegas and Fallout seventy six. Seventy six especially are doing very well Throughout anywhere from like fifty to one hundred percent in terms of daily average users on Steam or daily active users. And that is for these games that have kept a lot of their audience for years and years and years now, so they have anywhere from like ten thousand and a per day

on a good day, twenty thousand for some of these games. Now they're getting like forty thousand, if not more than that. Right, A lot of these fall games are like heavily discount right now because of this first person shooter fest happening. So, and seventy six is free with your Twitch Prime if you have Amazon Prime, right, So, yeah, a lot of good ways to play it. Yeah, you know, and we said this before, but boy, I bet they would be happy if there was like

a new seventy dollars game that always fall Out. New Fallout fans could be buying yep, A lot of other companies and fund ways to take advantage to that. They missed the opportunity here, But I think just I don't know, getting people to play these games at all. Selling a few copies here for ten dollars, they're going to be happy with that as well. Sure, Fallout for us a lot of dalce and like Fallow seventy six. Of course, the whole business model there is buy other things. Yeah, just

getting players in there is helpful. All Out Shelter is also popping off, just like all the pomp off. That's when I'm almost surprised, like they didn't like, well, let's get a fall Shelter to at least going I mean an update, right, I think the base was actually still doing decently well. I heard something about recently being like oh yeah people still play this. There you go. Cool and then yes, the Fallout four next Gen

patches Hamlet of Texas and chappoints Out eight days from now. That's going to launch and that'll probably help as well. Put it in front of people once again. Oh grub, did you see that the PC version of that patch has some exciting new features like wide screen? Yeah? I was like, what what do you mean? Uh huh? They said wide screen and ultra wide screen? Like all right, I think maybe the person who wrote this

didn't quite know is happy, I think, But that's okay. They mean ultra wide and like super ultra wide, so like that not sixteen by nine but like twenty four by nine and then thirty two by nine. That's right, that's so hot. Nintenda won't be attending Games Comp twenty twenty four, and news that isn't hot. This is mostly just hate them saying, hey, yeah, Games Comp often, we are there often, we have a pretty big showing. We're not going to be there and we're not bringing any

games and we won't be like Opening Night Live. People are taking this as bad news. To me, this feels like that is an indication that they're holding back something that they were going to want to talk about. At another place probably, if not right away at that point, but not long after. How do you guys read this? I don't know. My initial read is like, yeah, they don't have much to talk about. Sure, yeah, beat a slow year for them. It's going to be continue to

be a slow year from them. We are going to get you know, ports and remakes, They're going to get a few more of those announced, and yeah, maybe we're going to get direct this summer to announce a few more of those. But yeah, nothing. They don't have anything to spare for a game's calm right now. They also aren't ready to like do a ton of backdoor meetings about the switch to at this point, because even that is kind of far enough away Nintendo can dictate their own cadence of what they

want to do and when they want to do at this point. Oh wait a second, this is how the switch to info first leaked out as well, Games Come, Right, so maybe it was like people are talking about this at games Com last year. This is all your fault to do this to us, So yeah, we'll see. I mean, okay, so games Come is in August? Right? Is that normally when they do it? Okay? So yeah, they weren't going to have anything ready to go for August. But that's the real reason. Yes, But do you think

we get news about Switch hardware before December? Before December at least like at least the n X style teas right exactly, just the barely bearest of blips, the small yes, Okay, even like a code name set out loud publicly by them, I think would qualify to a certain extent for me. I think we're going to get like investory information this year, and we'll give some kind of reveal trailer at the end to end of the year early next

year. In that case, yeah, Switch. In that case August comes around, you're like, yeah, let's just stay at home, continue to work on that marketing campaign because that's going to launch a few months later, you know, for all intents and purposes. I'm still it's the stupidest theory that I have, but I'm dead set they're going to have a wearable that

is in the box. Jen I actually, at the end of the day, a gimmick like that wouldn't surprise me at this point, because that's the kind of thing where it's like it's optional and it can be like a few features here and there, and then it goes in a drawer and we can keep selling you video games on the thing you actually bought. Rob the robot is something they've always kind of thought about. Sometimes it's just like features they add on top. Yeah, here have a fun watch. The watch has

like another feature if you want to use it or not. Right, man, I could see it all right. Nintendo Indie World is returning tomorrow and Nintendo will host an Indie World showcase tomorrow at three pm UK time, So that means that's going to be like what nine am and ten Eastern? Thank you? Uh. The announcements will focus on games coming to the platform in twenty twenty four. Unlike the main Nintendo Direct presentations, Indie World presentations focus

on smaller indie games. It's the name implies, right, are like I don't know, Like maybe you should get so excited. I saw Mary Kish on Twitter get excited about your body. Look normally I want it. Butt's been getting rated everywhere, and it's like, if not here, then when Gillard's and coming up as Summer Game Fast and maybe there maybe I think so. Didn't they do a shadow drop at Summer Game Fast? Yeah? Yeah,

but I don't know it could be there, but it could. It's it's it's like a twenty percent chance, which is not terrible for this game. The fact there's a twenty percent chance that is good. It's absolutely possible. You know, I think you're saying spoon heaven. We know, yes, to be clear of time, all night silk song. The name. Jeff thought it was the better name because it's more memorable. Come on, that is, you know, like Mega sixty four finally put out their game

a little bit. If we ever we make a giant bomb game, it needs to be spoon perfect. That. Yeah, it'll be up a very big, hand crafted met and then damn won't like it because it'll remind him of like a flash cartoon he saw on new Grounds once. Then there will be a strong gambling component somehow weird some reason. Yeah, all right, last couple of headlines here. EA's Black Panther game will be open world according

to job listings. Yes, for one, this is this job listing does just straight up saying you will be crafting stuff in this game's open world. So this isn't some like suggestion or a thing where a job listing says if you have experience in this that'd be nice. It's like, no, they're saying the game has an open world. And then of course this Mike applied big surprise for a superhero action game, especially one where it's Black Panther,

and you can imagine being in Wakanda and exploring that alone. But even if they put them in another environment, that would also be very cool. This is the Black Panther game that we had a trailer out recently. No, that was a different The one was America. That's a completely different one. That's nineteen forty three, and that is the one where it is the previous Black Panther Tachaka and Captain America during World War Two, and that is what

Yeah, that one will not be open war. That'll be like your Last of Us, the charted style, mostly lining your game. And then this one is from people who used to work at I can't remember the name of the studio, but they've worked on a Shadow of Mortor and they did those two games, and now they have a new studio at EA making this game. So that's that's the lineage there. And then there's also the Ironman game from Motive, which Monolith Monolith, Yes, Monolith is the Shadow. Yes,

the Shattle Mortar team. That sounds right. And then yeah Ironman games so and that's a different as well, all right, and then PERSDA one and two remix are coming. It's claimed get Yes, they don't have color. The colors don't matter. It's okay, it's a different time. Bucket Shoon can change these things. They will tell you what they got remade out. They would have colors. The help Big Brain Big Brain six is green. They retroactively make one and two purple and orange. It all comes together.

I go, oh, we're gonna run out of colors though. Oh boy, and Bucket Sewn had a kid, it would just be called Bucket Sean. Yeah, don't fuck the bucket Sewan. Bucket shean my best friend Green into the air. Okay, all right, Hey Sirie Summer Game Fest. Bucket right, Sean on it. Thank you. This is nice. Those games are very old. They're very different than what most people expect from a persona game, very different combat style. It has the old school shimmagami

tense kind of demon negotiations, which I think throws some people off. They don't have social links, they don't really have the calendar system. It is still high schoolers. It's kind of the big connecting thing there, So I'd be curious what this would look like even you know, the leaker here is like, maybe this is gonna be more of like a remaster, less like

some Big Persona three reload style remake. Sure, so who knows? Also said like, don't expect this anytime soon, Like clearly they're going to remake all of them except for five eventually here, and I would even I'd be shocked if we even got these before four, just because four is the other PS two one. You just remade one of the PS two. Oh so you think of timeline, is they six is next? And then a four remake? And then you're saying it's so weird, Becai, this is definitely

their next project, Yeah, because we know it's in development. Yeah, okay, that's what you're Okay, that makes sense, but six years very far away. You guys don't think they could have one and too ready to go if they're smaller. I'll say, I don't think that any of the Big Persona teams, either the Fantasia what's that one called? Yeah, neither neither of them or the people just did reload. I don't think they're working on Persona one and two. I think they're given that to somebody whoa maybe

ah PEA Studio is really weird, dude. They do not like giving stuff to other teams, Like even like Persona four Golden, they just made that in turn or sorry sorry. The re releases, This is where I was going with this. The re releases of Golden and P three P they did themselves and then just brought in I forget what his name is, but the the person who did like the Dark Souls mod tool or whatever big in the

PC mining scene. They just brought that person in to like help them develop a good PC port And I'm thinking there is that precedent there of they did just port P four Golden and P three portable. What if they just port the PSP versions of one and two over that could take some nice cities. Yeah, it might be more like that. In that case, it's gonna have to be like the Big because I imagine the main teams, the main teams are going to be working on Persona six and then Persona for rewatch or

whatever. Yeah, another rething. Yeah, because of the TVs. There we go, gold Member, what color the buckets at Peace Studios. What I want to know, here's what I want. I want to throw, throw the colors out, get them, get them out of here. I can say that, cover your ears and you don't even say that. I don't know either PERSONA one and two or seven. Have it be like in Dune two when you go to the Hearken Ends, it's just like a harsh

black and white that rules god negative? Is that what they did there? Yeah? You guys know what jessure color is great? Gray? Yeah you said that. I was like, dude, silver, Like say silver, you know what's fun is to like something? And then people say that and then laugh. It's like I is a Kingdom Hearts fan, have no idea what that is? Yeah, Sonic fan right here not knowing what Jeff rob is talking about, like popular thing. Okay, so you guys are saying

you don't like gray. I like gray. Difference, I don't like Sonic, I don't like Kingdom Hearts and I've played both. That's difference. I just don't think I've ever heard that be somebody's answer before. And I'm laughing at you for big different. That is that's fair. That that a little weird there's nothing wrong with it inherently, it's just weird. I need a further modifier here, grub, do you like the color g r a y or e g r a y. What is that? There's between the color

silver and the color gray. There's like radiance radiance? What about chrome? Like? These are just all different versus. That's why I like Greg Mike manaughty. I need you to imagine in your mind's eye. All right, think of Silver the Hedgehog. Right, it's black. Ah, I got I got silver and shadow. Okay, Now think of if instead of calling him Silver the Hedgehog, we called him Gray the Hedgehog. Very different. Wow, that's cool, very different, right, m What are you making

them do in your head? Right now? Why are you thinking this? Slog about it? Stop it? Yeah, it's weird, it's different. That wouldn't work as well. You're right there, you go. All right, thank you for anticipating. In the you'll hear about Keanu rees being the voice of Shadow the Hedgehog. Yeah, what's happening. I wish it was hating. Christian said that'd be funny, like that star of a little It. All right, let's get to this last story because it's a wild one.

Japanese Pokemon Scarlet and Violet Hacker has been arrested for selling modified Pokemon. Yeah. Uh, he apparently made millions of yen doing this. Well that's not that much money. It's talking at twenty bucks. Yeah, but they arrested them, they found him. I'm just imagine like running this criminal racket of selling modified Pokemon. I didn't realize it was that much of a scene

that you can make. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah exactly. Minor state was like Pokemon company knows when you do this, and you can crack down on it. So but like are people just like running back like back like alley games or something, and that's why it's valuable to him. Here's here's a differentiator. Grub is in Japan, just anything involving modifying stuff is very frowned upon, to the point of in some and says being illegal. I

believe console modding is straight up illegal in Japan. It's like it's just a job over there, and so many companies they do crack down on very weird things, and so I think that's what that's what's happening here is just companies are seeing a modification of their game and going after someone. I'm sorry, sorry, good news. The news segment's over. We're done with that,

right. Oh boy, we're learning a lot today about each other. We're learning something Bucket Sean, my best friend Jeff Beckelar, don't don't miss the podcast again. This is god. It is like we have substitute teacher energy. Oh no, it's like grub is gone for a week or I'm gone for a week, but like back Daddy can't leave. You're the glue because you make people feel bad when they go with these tangents. Yeah, oh yeah, so bad. Make me feel like me. He'll do this.

Look to you, He'll be like Mike, is it that he doesn't do it to you? Or you just don't care, you're just unfazed. But what are we doing here, folks here? Can you keep that in mind when we head into the emails, and we'll have to the emails after quick breaking break emails emails. Send your emails to blombcast giant bomb dot com. I will read every single one of them. I print some of them out

and then I shred them out of frustration and anguish. And then I send a couple to my mom and point to her and say hey, people like me on the internet. And then she smiles, pats me on the shoulder and goes, you're still not getting that twenty bucks that you need right now, please go do this menial chore for me. Thank you, son. And then I smile and I say yes, just like I say yes to reading this email from someone I didn't write. Oh there we go, Corey

Porter uh film student and k you Okay, all right? Corey writes in with a blind ranking. Hey, gang, I've seen some blind rankings online and thought it'd be fun to send you one of one for best controllers. I will give you five random controllers and you have to rank them one through five without knowing the next one on the list. So don't pull up the email. Boys. Yeah, and I strolled away without I saw the first one. That's it. Once? What's best one or five? Let's say

one? Yeah, okay, in order. Once you decided, you can move to the next, but you cannot change the place of the previous. There's a lot of TikTok exactly like this. Yes, okay, I think it'd be more fun if this were a group decision. But it's up to you if you want to do them individually. I hope you have fun with this. Corey a film student at KU. So here's a list. All right, I'm gonna say the first one, and you three decide where this goes one through five? All right, boys, gotcha? Okay? The

original Xbox S controller. Oh s that okay? That was okay. I like a three I would put I'm gonna put it at three the middle of the road, almost two, a three sixty, which is a much better controller. But yeah, okay, let's go three. So we're putting it three. All right. Look, you guys deciding so so quickly together. I'm proud of you. Uh. Next one, the GameCube keyboard controller.

It has way more buttons than any other controller that they're gonna bring. God, okay, this is tough because it's like, I like, I would like using that thing, and it's still like a GameCube controller, just with a keyboard in between it. Yeah, it's just like gig control that you can also use to like talk ship to your friends and fancy star online. Okay, So here's the thing. Jokes aside, I genuinely think you'll be tiring to have your arms like held out, you know, a time.

That's why you kind of rested on your lappy lap as you I do. I mean that's why I actually don't have back there that I usually have a pillow on my chair because I used that to like rest my hands on while I'm playing games. I see we can. Then we got to do two because I think we're going to have two that are going to be definitely worse than the Xbox, and we're not gonna have two that are definitely better.

Maybe not. I think they're going to be all jokey from here. One like the CD I controller and I don't know control, we need at least one PlayStation controller. I think every PlayStation controller is better than the gamecuborder controller. I think there's still gonna be one. I want to put it four. I want to put it as well. I vote to but the you know democracy here, that's why we can do four. Then, okay, you're going to put this at four. We're putting. You're going to regret

your words indeeds. Maybe I'll put it on record. I also don't love the GameCube controller. I it's a very good controller, but you're a bad person. We get it, okay, all right, Continuing down the blind rankings, the Steel Battalion controller. Oh, say, they're all gonna be joking now here we are. So is this number one? Is this number five? We also too? Yeah? Right? Is this better than the original Xbox S controller? I mean, in some ways it is cool.

It's a cool controller. Use cases are limited, right, but when you're using it, it kind of is number one on any list exactly. I feel like it's either two or five, Like I wouldn't put that one, sure, I mean, I'll put it at two. Let's put it at too. That's fun, all right, we're doing too, Yes, all right, it's gonna make four and deciding one in five here very hard. We're gonna a really weird one as the best controller, all right. The

next controller, the guitar Hero controller. Oh, I would put that at one, easy, all day long. And then controller rules good either the best or the worst, according to I's just I'm scared about what's the next. It's not the worst controller, I mean, okay, it's it's got to be number one because I don't think it should go fine, Yeah, I'm scared. Does the original Guitar Hero controller have the whammy bar? It does? Yeah? Yeah, it has all the functionality it is guitar?

Is it guitar Hero one? Specifically? John I just says guitar Hero controller? Okay, I can choose to think that means the world too, or a guitar which rips. I mean, even if it was the bass, it's fine, And I think I think we gotta go with one for this one. I'm concerned, man, this was the DJ Hero controller, I'd be like one all day, brother rules, we can put it one. Is there anything more stylis for someone to kick your ass and guilty you're at

EVO with than the guitar Hero It's pretty exactly, pretty exactly okay? Are we are we going with number one here? It's number one because this next one, this next one is totally a dual shock or something. Next controller, which is automatically number five the Nintendo sixty four controller. Oh yeah, we did a good job here. I like. I like the style of rankings. I like, uh steph being random and then having to vy for a spot. Yes, it's a good that we should do those tiktoks.

What what is the what is the ranking? Then? So from worst here we have number five the Nintendo sixty four controller. Number four the GameCube keyboard controller, number three, the Xbox S controller, the second best game controller of all time, Steel Battalion controller, and the number one with a bullet the guitar Hero control. Let's stand by this. I like how they started with a very normal control. That's what and there. The only mistake is

the Steel Battalion controller should be number one. Probably the board controller should be three. I think I could in hindsight, I could see six box s should be number one recordarsight, so yeah, I would say you're right there, jan oh ky dooky. Next email is from Vaness Vanessa Rights and about destructive media. Hey, Bombers, I just finished playing Celeste and this game

absolutely destroyed me on an emotional level. I really wasn't ready for this because I just finished playing Persona three for the first time, which also fucking destroyed me. I also beat Persona three and then got the pressed for a while. Don't worry, that's normal. Same part of this is probably because I just started transitioning and the hormones are making me hella emotional. But I want more. Do you all have any other games you'd recommend in the emotionally going

to destroy you? Genre? Lots of love, Vanessa from Denver. Maybe it's very specific to my circumstances, but Wolfenstein to the New Clausus, the scenes there with like the family and then how BJ like responds to all that stuff really gets me. I don't know if it's gonna destroy you, but it's definitely the stuff that I think about constantly. In that way I see Spearfaarer and chat that's a pretty good one to destroy you emotionally. Definitely.

Four had a very similar effect to me. Even though like the ending is it literally as sad, it's still kind of like it's, you know, a change, and I get emotional about that. I was gonna say, do you have one hundred and twenty hours? Because five Royal will do the

same thing to you for maybe different reasons. All these really long arpe uses are like that because you kind of have this like, you know, it's like these people for so long and it's like it's like your family, and then all of a sudden, it's like I never hear from these people again. That's right, they only exist in a video game. Oh no, maybe the world ends with you with another original on the original one. But if you're looking to go outside side of JRPG's I would recommend the Guardians of

the Galaxy video game. Oh yeah, yeah, that's a good one. Jesus Christ trying to remember if ten was emotionally destroying or actually so confusing that not really, it was just kind of like what it has, like a moment when you know what the Oh but font facing nine, yes, fa facing nine, play fun facing nine if you want to be emotionally chats mentioning it here And I saw so many people saying this on Twitter. Was on sale for like two dollars the our day before Your Eyes for your Eyes.

Yes, I haven't sat down to play, meaning from i've heard. Yeah, the problem is like I really want to play it, but I want to play it into dr and it's only on PSVR two and I don't have a PSVR well because they wouldn't need the eye tracking that only PSVR two have. No, I no, I get it, but I mean I would played on well okay, right, but if you can play it on your phone, you can play on your phone, you play your phone, you can play with a webcam on your computer. I'm just gonna suck it up

and do that. So, uh, if you're into Zelda, I will say I talked about this in my Game of the yearless last year, Tears of the Kingdom definitely had moments like that for me where I was just sure, I was gone, Yeah, if you have a thousand hours to spare, you can play some fount Facey fourteen get There's some good story beats in that game, very good ones Oco Dad that made me cry. I also had a really weird emotional response to being Boga Solid to the first time.

But I can't even explain why. It was like one of those things where like you beat it in like the middle of the night, it's like four am, and it plays that really sad piano jazzy song and I'm just like sitting there thinking about things. And I was fifteen or whatever, and I don't know that hit Alexi was with some good picks here, Chickory and a Space for the Unbound, very good, very good cry games. Game of the Year Chickory, Uh, Griffondego will get you to play Grimpfindego. Everybody

everyone played Grymfindango. We're all gonna play Grymfindango. It's going to be great. The Red Wings game made me cry last night. That was pretty exciting. So no losing audio files or video files makes me cry. So just emory card, you know, just drive down some stairs. Yeah I didn't hand. I'm not usually much of like an actual tears guy. But uh the epilogue to the the Sun Arcana in Persona three that you see at the end of the game, yeah, yeah, like just like that where you're

talking to the person's mother. I was just like I was, was kind of was. I was definitely choking up at that one. Yeah, that was. I don't have to talk that. One of the social links in Persona three is like a kid, a teenager on your age, who was dying, right, Yeah, that's like one of the first things he says to you is I am dying and nothing will save me. And that's why the whole social is actually just like very mature and well done. It's one

of the best series ever had. Yeah, it is still the best social link I think probably. Yeah, it's also kind of the standard death metal Dan. That's a good shout. I've heard a lot of people will be very positive on like a Dragon the Man who erased his name. Yeah, I've heard good things about that too. To all right, next email U comes from Jeff from Quebec. Hello, if I play Hello YouTube. If you had to have a catchphrase, what would it be? I mean it's

mandatory, you'd be that guy that uses his own catchphrase. But at least you get to pick a real cool one gets on the cheek Jeff from Quebec. He just said Backler's catch phrase and grubs in that, so they're covered. Man dance would be my god, yeah, mine, I'm trying to what I say A lot. I say things. I say the I have the that's hot now, Mike, no, no, yours is incredible? Just the word incredible. I do say that a lot, but it was

whattering people. I do just like incredible. I just like to say that. I do way too make shows with the ig along. Jan dances, cut the check, Jen has one for sure the check several cut the check. Hey come here, uh ain't no thing chicken wing. If it can just be a word, it is respectfully definitely Oh I say my you know, I don't. I don't like to throw the A hero around. It's

been a lot. I always I always pot myself with that one. I think I stole actually I stole that and that's so hot from the same real life friends. I feel kind of bad. Don't feel bad, that's just that's just language. Because like someone's like, hey, no, look is Jeff thing. I'm like, it's definitely not. That's something that's like a Midwest thing almost, but yeah, definitely yeah, look observed Lucy's. Yeah. Tim is really set with grow up. Oh yeah, that's his brand

at this point. He has like a slap across the Nikki's is one percent for sure. Uh So I started listening to their comedy podcasts. If you're driving, close your eyes, close your eyes right, because that's funny. Uh He's so damn funny, it's for sure, and like, oh hell yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah, that's what's up. Him is just catchphrases, stitch together to make a man possible. Him says his catch raise more in real life than in the podcast. Next time Michael Him pops up

on any giant bomb content or you see him on virtually anything. I need you at home to count how many times he says whimsical. He's been adding whimsical to his day to day and it is quite whimsical. Okay, a couple more emails before we get on out here. Uh, let's read this one. And this one comes from Jorgan from the Arctic. Jorgan writes in Jeff Backler was talking about Dylan or bring your kid to work day and then him just bringing Dylan behind him. I guess, dear Jeff Backlar, as

a fellow dad, this is my suggestion for Dibb's day at work. First of all, disclaimer that naturally, you, as a parent and div will set boundaries for what you're comfortable doing in front of an internet audience. My suggestion to you is to have DIB plan out and execute a show for Giant Bomb. Oh. It can be as simple as Fortnite Duo's with Dad or

Fortnite Pacifist runs or whatever else DIB would like to do. Have Dib come up with a concept, have him design a simple layout on the stream, help him set up the scenes for whatever in your Obsdib can write a short intro to perform at the top of the stream and sign off at the end. Then have fun streaming with his dad. If performing scripted intros and such as too much pressure, you can have Dib write them and you execute them

yourself. The point is to give a little bit of insight into this show to show the job is not just fucking around on YouTube, and getting to share your work experience as a bonding moment with your son is really awesome. If you make him sit in on a budget meeting, however, you'll just murder him his will to ever participate in adult life ever. Again, good luck with whatever you come up with for Dib's day at work. Take care and say hello to everyone for me. Okay, bye, Jorgan from the

Arctic. I like this. I approve I love free child labor, so let's make it happen. Hey, yeah, we totally missed out when did was on spring break having no play Fortnite with us. We should have. I kind of want to play Fortnite again based off of all the Avatar stuff. If you guys, do you guys ever actually go to like a parent's workplace for take your kid to workday? I would know my mom's office for like Christmas Eve, but it wasn't like to do work stuff. It just

be to hang out. Yeah, I'll go to my dad's like doctor's office, and it was like no different than when I was sick and like nobody was homes. I just went there like so like I went into like the rooms with them, right, kind of hung out with the secretaries and kind of annoyed them and played on a typewriter or something. Yeah, all right, we have one more email about bringing your child to work? And uh, Dave and Sheffield rights in, Hey they're bombless. Discovery Channel has Shark

Week, so how about for bring your child to work? GB has DIB Week A whole week back to School's special featuring Dib quizzing jan Why Why am I? Okay? Are I like him? Boy? Dib does Blake Club? Does he know how bad Sonic games truly are? Thursday Night throw Down? Can the community beat DIB at Rocket League Fortnite? And Roadblocks The Very Online Show teach Dib about why he shouldn't be playing Roadblocks? What Currenter old GB content would you like to see featured on DIB Week? Lots of Love,

David Sheffield p s give Jana kiss on the lips from me? Okay? Did play? Oh god? I film in forties with Dib? Back to School? Does still need to be Dan? And do we just need those two on content together? Yeah? They'll get nasty. I know he'll be right. I mean they're having those back in the back back, behind the scenes scuffles and stuff, so that stuff. You want to see Dan

Riker get taken down by a child with a thing. We're like in a Kung Fu movie where the guy like drops the floor and like makes some trip by putting both his legs on his legs doing that to Dan's yeah, he can mess them up. He'll be great. Dance Hard Drive interview. He like continued the the dib like storyline, and they're like comments like that's messed up. Yeah, it's incredible to break every a bit. It's okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to do it, but yeah, it's kind of

cool. It's all cool, not dance, not actually being mean to it. I'm sorry not here. Oh my god, I can't wait to see the Reddit thread saying like, oh my god, they were lying this whole time BombCast. Giant bomb dot com is the email addressed to send your emails to send any and everything, your quandaries, your queries, your quizzes, whatever you want to ask us. We will try and answer if we read it on air. We got a lot of stuff popping off this week.

Every week, we got a lot of stuff popping off this week in particular, this Thursday, we're going to have chef reactions from the TikTok on voicemail Dumpshot now hanging out with Jeff Backler, Mike Manatti, and Dan reichert answering all of your food related voicemails, so make sure to get those sent in this Thursday as well. We'll be playing some Fallout New Vegas with a whole

bunch of mods. Blake Cloud returns Fingys Crossed tomorrow. I also might try to set it up so we can react to that Nintendo Indie World for g Yeah, let's do that. I get ready for the Soilk song announcement. Speaking about GMM, we got GM popping off the rest of the week Wednesday to Friday to tide you over with some video game news mentioned Blake Club upf. It's looking like we might do some more content warning. Yeah, yeah, I think the idea is gonna be like Jan, you've seen this,

but you haven't played. Dan as like held back and doesn't know anything about it, So we're gonna like, hey, let's introduce this game to these guys. We're also gonna throw Bailey into the fold, so expect Sean. Let's get that mood going, Yeah, we can finally put that server of yours to good use, Jeff, if you still got it, okay, Yeah, I'll see if it work. Yeah, we might have to do

that, no problem, okay, cool. And also we decide, you know, where are there are some rumblings happening, some royal rumblings happen behind the scenes here y'all. And then we're thinking we talk about wrestling too much on this website. Yeah, we got Yes, we're gonna lock it down.

What if we create a containment zone where we have an existing podcast called the power BombCast that is very infrequently, maybe like two or three times a year, showing up just as much as Roman Reigns would show up during the latter half of his title reign. What if, you know, BCR sometimes maybe it's a little light on game stuff and game discussions. What if they form their own tag team on Fridays, take turns tagging each other in So

this week we are hot tagging the power BombCast. Later this week, look forward to the power BombCast and all the original older episodes, including the ones that were locked behind Premium, going out onto its old feed so you can hear all the The first episode was in twenty thirteen and that blew my mind. Oh that's messed up. And there's only been like thirty or so episodes, So look forward to more wrestling, hopefully in a contained space. Folks,

sore safe. If you're tired of hearing shoot work k fabe, it'll be too bad. We're gonna keep doing that. But like although the week to week stuff, the sheets we will be keeping there, look forward to WrestleMania videos popping off as this week goes by. The tailgating video is almost ready for public consumption. I can't wait if you if you guys want a preview, it's all in slack right now. I'll check it out. I'm not in slack. I'll put in put in discord, right, I can

wait. Sorry I didn't let you go drive eight hours to a tailgating thing. By the way, Yeah, I like you still resent me for it? Yeah, you got it. You're right. That was awesome to hang out. That was great. Two things. One earlier in this episode, Chance said that it was okay when he's not here, it's not. I did the episode last week with back of art and it was so long. And then number two Mike can you do gim in with me tomorrow because I'm

gonna have to lead halfway through to get Addie off the bus. Yeah, I couldn't do it tomorrow. I'll just stick around after this Nintendo thing. Sure, thanks appreciate. What else did we learn today, guys? Also, right when I started talking, music started playing in the background. I think I'm still logged into the zoom meeting from earlier, so I got what is that I heard? Also, did you guys heard that I thought I was being played out or something like that? That's me because we learned that

all less taxes than expected means that you're practically earning money. Sean is a purb for old consoles, Grub is going to join a rollerblading team of some sorts, And it's ironic that a multiplayer game can make you feel lonely and fall out seventy six. We also learned how clapping in different contexts can sound a little naughty. I'd be really aggressive here a giant bomb. We also learned that a glass of milk is always full over here, my milk,

Why milk? Jeff? And we also learned that maybe all of us on the Internet should stop posting why you can't see it. It's still there, chest folks. I've been Jam he's been Jeff, he's been Mike, he's been Turboshan and you at home have been very pleasant. We appreciate you, We love you. We'll see you next week for another episode of the Giant BombCast