835: REVENGEANCE

Hey, everybody, it's Friday, and I'm not gonna put the music on the YouTube version. Sorry everybody. I just don't have that ready to go, But Sean will do with the podcast first. I mean, I could probably get it going if we really wanted to, but I'm just not gonna happen. But if we all just did it right now, yeah, going there sounded like a centerfold for a second. This is BombCast Revengeance Episode eight thirty five. There's been eight hundred and thirty four BombCast revenge is before that.

We did it, and this week we got plenty to talk about. We're gonna do our most anticipated game, anticipating games left for the rest of this year. Last week we did, Hey, our favorite games of the year so far. So we figured, let's look at what's left. There's not a ton, but we found some that we'll talk about here in a minute. We'll talk about games, but first we just got that in streamed Fallout. That was a lot of fun for upf Mike. You got to

miss around some mods. Tell me for shoot, it was like, did it peak your interest at all? For mods? In the real way?

It was fun to do that. But no, I'm still very much with these bethesta games, Like I know for some people that is like the thing I remember, like a star Fields, like, well we'll wait for them, MAZI for mods, it's like, I don't know, I don't really care about any of these mods, even when I'm just like like we're gonna make a texture slightly better and I don't care, and know it's like real

goofy, like like the Macho Man thing was really funny. I get almost the same effect watching a YouTube video of like the Mato Man dragon right all that in Scarim in a video, and that was good for me. I didn't need to go install the mod and then like have it happened to me for real? Yes, I know exactly what you mean. And and those like those joke mods, they're funny the first couple of times and then it's like, well, I'm just playing the game now. There are mods though

that are a completely different story. And yeah, like when because Starfield didn't have DLSS, so the one that like turned f SR into DLSS, like that's that's nothing I'll use. Well that was star Food. It would be mods or like that, and like a mod to add a map into Yeah, for Fallout four in skym it's like, we're gonna do fun stuff for stuff. It's like, how about some yeah, like features that make it game? What if it was fun? I mean that is the video I

just naked. Jake on YouTube did that like great breakdown of Red Dead Redemption two, and then he just went back to it recently and he's like, uh, you know, I've reconsidered it, and mostly because it came out a piece seeing it, I installed a bunch of mods, and I'm like, Okay, I bet if I installed a bunch of mods into Red Dead Redemption too, I can have a pretty good time with what they made there. And that's that is the kind of game where I am, so I'll

keep doing mind. I can see that because like that game more so than even like betas the game, it is kind of hard to veer off from that story pass sometimes if you kind of mod read there Redection two to be more of this like pure open world open just you are a cowboy going around. The one that really piqued my interest there is exactly that, like where it's the bank robberies work the way you expect them to instead of being like scripted sequises. No, it's like, now I can just go to my

my own emergent bank robbery. I'm like, okay, yes, I would install that and I would have a very good time with that. So yeah, I don't know. You guys have anything else going on this week? How's everyone doing? I am like beat, I'm dead tired. Yeah, not getting enough? What did we ready for the weekend? I can't remember the past three days though, define more Gamma ever upload the other half of

that? When we did our PlayStation I did, don't worry, I got you, Yeah, I thought, I'm not gonna remember to build my time for if I don't see a YouTube video, don't worry a video for some reason, Mike, who can say, yeah, yeah, I down. I'd worked a lot this week. I did. I mean, you know, it's this kind of work and like, you know, normal job work, so it's not like I'm, you know, in the steel mill or something, but still is a lot of work. I'm a little mentally drained.

I I kind of want to watch some TV shows and that's fucked up for me. I never do. But like X Men ninety seven looks amazing, and people like the Fall Show, and you know, it's like there's a time of life where I did really like fall Out and it'd be kind of fun to get back into that. So maybe I'll do x Men first, because that's you know, thirty minute episodes or it's not all Out. I'll catch up on that. Yeah, maybe I'll check out Fallout. Who

knows. Yeah, I'm I'm kind of into I think I'm gonna check out Fallout camping and people are getting excited about it. I mean honestly, just seeing you play, I'm like, oh, I like Fallout enough, and I bet that show will we just amplify that. Yeah, I do kind of want to play fall up, not not for up. What I really what maybe is to watch Jeff play New Vegas. Finally New Vegas. That's the one I want to. No, I never played it. I started it a couple of times, and I haven't really played it. That's why

he likes fall Out four. I'm always missing. I'm joking. I do kind of want to like go back to us Fall seventy six and see what that's like now. I haven't played it since it was new and bad. Yeah, I think there's people put scenes in there. Yeah, crazy God that was that was a whole update was it's like there's people, people, people in the game because every other question you got from a computer. Yeah,

yeah, we were. We were in that meeting earlier this week where we're like figuring out stuff, and it's like the reason we did this fall Out streams like a little peg behind the curtain here is like, hey, you know, we're trying to see if we do these big events where everyone was working together kind of doing something similar for when there are big things coming out. So the fall Out TV show is here, let's do this as a test. It's like, yeah, well, we'll see how it works,

but like we'll do something with that. Maybe we should play fall Out seventy six. And at that time, it was like is everyone going to be around for that? That would be something fun to do, so instead we did the mod thing. But hey, next week people are still gonna care about Fallout. I would like to play show Out seventy six, So maybe we could do that on the website next week. That'll be cool.

Yeah, I think that'd be very cool. Although I wonder is that the kind of game where we can dip in for an hour and a half to two hours and get something out of it or definitely not. I recall even back then that the intro stuff wasn't too bad. Actually, like you kind of got out in the world relatively click. I might be misremembering, and again, very different game now, So who knows how much other shit that it throws at you at this point. Maybe we just have to like do

a tutorial before the stream or some Yeah. Yeah, I just think maybe it seems like the kind of game that would be fun to dip in on my Steam deck to like get started, and then we get on the PC and play together. That could be cool. Yeah, all right, you know what, let's talk about video games. The Eclipse? Sorry was this week? That's crazy? Oh yeah, but oh I was like, I mean last weekend. No, that's what that was during a weekday. That was Monday. That was Monday, Yeah, this Monday. Yeah. What

did you all do for the Eclipse? Did you? Did you guys traveling? Mike? I know you traveled into those zone of fatality. Yeah. I just had to like drive like thirty minutes to get into totality. So I did that with my brothers and their family. So we went to like a place there was an old car factory here that's been shipped down for a

while. There's like something there, but basically a big empty parking lot, and the local university's astronomy department was there kind of like they had some telescopes and they were talking about what's going on. So it was neat because you know, there were like a lot of people, but we also had our own space. The kids were there and they were, you know, relatively into it. There were definitely stretches where they got bored, but like once

totality happened, everybody was just completely stunned. It was so worth to like get actually in totality. That was stark. That was dramatic. Yep, I was mes marius by it for sure. All right. I played a game Tales of Kenzera Zau. Oh yeah, the preview embargo is up, and I'll just kind of talk about like my initial reaction to it, which

is maybe Jen wasn't lying. It feels really good and sometimes I'm like, okay, so it has the things you expect from a metroid Vana movement, like library where you can pull from Okay, I could do the double jump and I have a dash, and I think the double jump feels pretty good. I think the dash might actually feel better than the dash in Prince of Persia of the Lost Ground, which surprised So it's like, okay, so they have like some good juice in the way you move around in this game.

But think, I'm imagine probably you know, early on, I'm not sure if it's gonna get more complex than this or sort of challenge me more. I don't think the combat's gonna be quite as good as it was in Lost Crowns, but it's definitely in that zone of it being good enough.

And I think having the option of being able to switch between the masks of so people don't know it is a metro advan yet it does look a lot like The Lost Crown but it has both melee and and you know a gun that you can shoot by switching these masks, and the gun's like, you know, a little p shooter and that feels pretty cool. And then you could switch over this other mask. We can get into someone's ass and just like actually tear them up with the heavy and the light attack like a lot

of combat games. And I'm like, I'm having a good time when I'm doing that stuff. But really it is all about getting around this world, exploring seeing finding puzzles, being like, Okay, I'm gonna be able to solve that eventually, like keeping that in the back of the head and then exploring some more, just like a good Metroidvan yet and I'm pretty impressed by

it. I think the afro futurism style doesn't feel like it is like too rote at this point where it's like, oh, it's just pulling from everything everything else that's done that before. It's like, no, it's got its own way of approaching that. And at the same time does have like, oh, there's some cool purple lighting like I imagine in Black Panther or whatever, and I'm I'm down with that. I'm enjoying that quite a bit.

And then I'm playing with I'm not gonna be able to remember the language, but I'm playing in the in the African language, and then I hear I read the English subtitles, and that's pretty cool. It's setting a tone as well, and I'm just, yeah, I think they've done a very good job here for especially a game that I was like, I kind of came out of nowhere. Yeah, I've seen it in a couple of things now, but I could see why EA was like, hey, this is this

would be a good fit for EA originals. It does feel like it's of that quality, something like something else. I don't think it's Swahili. That's right. If it was with Swahili, I would have remembered it, but I don't think it is. I could check it. I could. I'm serious to check it out. I mean, I'm not surprised if here that it's combat. It's not as good as Lost Crown. I don't think any

two D game has combat as good as the Lost Crown. The fact, which is why I'm trying to be like, it's not that good, as it's not as good as that, and yet it's also still very fun, very engaging, and I'm enjoying it. There's also the estion of like, is the combat going to be different because you have ranged options, which is

deemphasized in Prince of Perch. I would say, yes, yeah, you have like your little bone arrow, but it's not much so yeah, absolutely, like if you kind of mix it up a bit, that'll work fine. And the fact that to hear that, like the platforming, which is another important component, does feel good. That's something it is silly perstem okay. I didn't. It wasn't spelled the way you're spelling it our Wolves,

So that's why I didn't think it was Swahili. Okay, cool, Yeah, it's it is a game that I think is probably going to be right there in that pantheon of cool modern Metroad Venya games, just based on what I played so far, and that is very exciting the fact that we're like just kind of getting all these back to back now, I'm just I'll be interested to see how they sort of get across the story if that can maintain a certain level of engagement from me throughout, which is not a guarantee.

It's also not sort of a deal breaker if it doesn't, but you know, we'll see. The way that they are delivering it so far is we're stopping the game, We're having the two little Jpex come out and talk to one another, and like, that's that's fine to a certain extent. I

hope there's not too much of that. I like, you know, I think the peak of storytelling for me in this genre is still Metroid Dread, where it's like, yeah, told environmentally, and then Samus Aaron has one line of dialogue that just rips so hard and then two lines technically but yeah, right, two lines, yes, and then and then she becomes a Metroid spoiler. Sorry, I can't help christ that's crazy. It doesn't it

doesn't have to. It's just like excited. Yeah, if you have it, if you haven't played it by now you have, that's that's your own fault for the point. Because I like it. I've tried to tell people that it's so exciting and hearing the phrase she becomes a metroid, what does that mean? It's still delivered because if you played the last Metro game before this, you know that she is already. I'm that's right, so exactly. Yes, ah, I like I think Metroid Vane is. And now

I'm thinking about like, yeah, because that is one thing. Lost Crown to storytelling I think was fine for me, but like dread or even games that do have more story like the Ori games are hollow night, I think handle that stuff really well. Yeah, Lost Crown was mostly serviceable in that regard. Yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to Zoo though. I like I mentioned our momcast before I played that demo, which, by the way, that demo is still available over on Steam. I don't know if it would

be anywhere else. I haven't checked, but I played during next Fest and neal they just kept up after that, and so you'll look for it for yourself. I think movement wise, I I kind of like better in Prince of Pergia because it feels a little more fluid in how the movement goes. Prince of Perga feels a little stop and go. To me, it always feels very good, but does feel like you sometimes have to stop to use the ability right or to you like traverse something. But I think this just

felt a little more. It feels very Metroid Dread in the little I played of it. Rub So yeah, it's also coming to PlayStation Plus day one. Oh okay, nice. I don't know what tier it is, but I think it is just the base tier. I think it's like there's three and you never know if a game is launchings which one you need. It's always very weird. But yeah, that come out end of the month.

I'm looking forward to that one. Yeah, and I'll be playing more of it, and once we could talk about it in a larger capacity and I've played a lot more, we'll revisit that on a BombCast for sure. I think I think Dan's playing it as well. I'll see we can get a couple more codes for everybody. Several else can jump in if they want. Anyone else playing anything well. In a similar vein, I did play The Rogue Prince of Persia, the new Rogue like take on the series. I

got to play kind of an early preview from from movie soft tier. I got to play for about an hour and it's it's it is very funny because this is not connected to the Lost run in any way, but it is still like a two D game with a lot of emphasis on combat and platforming. So and it still feels good. It still feels really good, but

it is a bit different, you know. You know, you can get different weapons, right, so you start off with I think the Daggers, but you could get a saber or even a big axe and they all sort of work differently. And then there's all the roguelike stuff where like, yeah, like the law is gonna be different. You still can find like challenge

rooms where you have very bespoke platforming challenges that feel really good. The best thing is the way that they incorporate wall running into this, whereas in Lost Crown the wall running was basically just an air dash here you actually do run on a wall if it is in the background, and usually there is a

wall in the background, but it's not just a horizontal thing. You could run up at vertically for a bit or diagonally, so it's very versatile how you can move around that and when you are sort of chained together like a double jump into a wall, run into you know, a wall jump, and all this other stuff, it feel is very nice. So yeah, I think it's incredibly promising already from what I played. I think it might have a similar like story thing where it's like, yeah, there's some story

here. It's not the same story, it's not the things up, but it is like you know, it's like Jeff said, the JPEG's talking at each other kind of thing again, which whatever. That's so that's fine. I think the art style is like gonna be divisive. I like it. I love it. I think it looks yeah, it's they that unshaded kind of uh right, which I think throws some people off. I'm it's yeah, I think that. I think that people mostly are down with that.

I think it's it is the like you said, the Dan record thing of the animation. People until they play it and have their hands on it, are like, why is this rotoscoping look so like smooth or whatever? And they do take the new grounds and it's like, uh, that is that's

part of the Prince of personal legacy. So I think that for me, it pops off in a way that is very positive, right, Like, to me, it immediately read as, oh, this is an old like the original, like Prince of Persia's which very much had that rotoscope looked at all those cinematic platformers did. Yeah. I actually I think I think that look is very cool too, because then it does make it feel distinct from The Lost Crown, whereas the Lost Crown is very much Ubisoft making a modern

game and moren take on that formula. This, like you said, feels like a homage. I think there's a space for both of them as a result. I think that's very cool right. Also, I want to say I did end up watching the Triple I initiative thing that they did afterwards, wen't have the time to watch it here on the site, but some cool announcements in there, like I saw what one that people have talked about before. But ges Staltz demon cinders just like a pixel or probably Metroid venue thing

that looks cool. But the revealed trailer for this for the Rogue Prince of Persia, I thought was very cool. I usually I usually don't like when there's a very like animated trailer that often looks like it has kind of nothing to do with the game. But the fact that it was in the art style of the and then seamlessly transitioned into a game play that was so sick. Yeah, I'm I didn't know in screenshots if I would like this art

style, but in motion I think it looks very nice. Yeah, I'm right there with you, and then anyone else have any time for anything else? New Hell Divers. Yeah, I won't dwell on this one too much. But we played Hell Divers, and I played Hell Divers. Actually I don't know if Nikki did for the first time, but I played for the first time. I literally I played the tutorial and then I did one mission by myself, so like this when we did the stream this week, that

was the first time i'd like played the game for real. All right, cool? So yeah, you can speak to those two. Yeah, how'd you find it? Okay? Yeah, it was really fun. So much fun. Yeah, to make sure that I was like ready for the stream and got over any tutorial stuff or anything. I uh, that was my game night with the boys this week was you know, we did our usual tech in session, but then we just played Hell Divers too until you know

it's time to log off, and we did the tutorial together. We were just it was instantly the real quick that that involved you having to be like spend some money on this game, right, They had to like go buy the game. Yeah, it was on sale right now, so it was even more reasonable. It was like thirty bucks. So they were like that's

great. Yeah, And I mentioned one have on bought directly on Steam because he was like, all right, well if we spend like an hour and a half, I am in the refund window if I want to, and he didn't because we had such such a fun time and that one that's very cool. Yeah. So starting out though, like we were just on Discord call doing the tutorial and everyone's just cracking up at the opening the tutorial where it's just like, oh yeah, this is very like super Troopers or whatever,

just very over the top like military stuff. It's very funny. Then when we got in It was nice going back to a co op shooter like this and just going out accomplishing missions together and having silly moments happen. This happened in our stream as well here on the site. But I I just saw this thing on the ground, like is that mine? As my friend walks right into it and goes flying. Though those types of moments are so good in this game. I low what happens. It's just like in the

first one I brought up when like Mike got squished by something dropping. You know that thatcount of stuff still happens despite the different play style and camera angle and everything. All that emergence stuff is still in there. I think it's just a very fun time. Yeah. I also think it like it does so much aesthetically. Yes, like the parody like nationalistic jinguistic stuff that it

does, yes, is good. But I think it plays the presentation of it so seriously and so well that like when you are on the planet and then they you are like actively in combat with these things, it feels like atmospherically, it feels correct, it feels good right like the The Red and I feel like you all have talked about this before, but like the red lasers that are firing across the screen and the fog that happens on the Automaton

planets. It feels very different and very uh synthetic compared to like the greens and the browns that take place on like all of the bug planets and like there, it does feel distinct and different, even though the thing that you were fundamentally doing is still holding right trigger and pressing on the deep head.

Sometimes it's good, like I think it's really good. I also like this was the first game where I felt like the the because I was playing on PS five where I felt like the dual sense was actually doing something interesting since I played Astro's playroom and that was nice to feel like justified. So I was playing on PC lin Xbox control or what what does the dual sounds to do? Over? It's got, it's got the it's got the trigger stuff, which I think is actually cool, Like I like the adaptive trigger,

so yeah, let's go. Yeah, I think I think most people it's mostly mean. Who's the hater with my arthurritic hands? And don't sure? Yeah, I don't think of it, don't don't like them, I just don't think. I don't know, they don't work in most games, or they don't. It doesn't make a difference. That's that's the thing, Like, it doesn't, it doesn't. It is turned off. I use mine

all the time. Yeah, but it like as you get as you empty the clip, the there's like lesser resistance on the right trigger when you bottom

out and the clip is empty. It feels different, like not every game is I think built for adaptive triggers because it is making your fingers work at a rate that is like someone, no, not your hands out in Call of Duty, right in that case of course, Yeah, I definitely did have a thing and Phase seven Rebirth they have like a pull up mini game, right and they're doing the adaptive triggers, and it's it's yeah, like,

oh, there's more resistance the more tired you get. But like the hardest difficulty of that is very difficult, and it just makes it significantly easier to turn off the adaptive triggers for a second seeking actually beat that mini game. Yeah, as a piece of technology, I think it's really sick.

It is nuts that that is the only thing I can like point to you that the PlayStation four could not do, you know, yeah, yeah, I think I think both these console people are gonna have to try to figure out so maybe slightly more enticing features for their next system than the kind of built in hints system and like yeah, that was a really big deal and then never talking about it again once the console launches, like, yeah,

they're going to figure some stuff out. Yeah, that's like when we did a BCR earlier in the year about our year in preview, talking about what we were excited for in our thing. That's why we say that, like a PlayStation may have been the least interesting because they just have a console and it's a good console overall, but it is still just that console experience, whereas something like exactly what you know it is, Yeah, it's what you're

expected. The switch is interesting because of the handheld factor. PC is always interesting. Xbox may move in a different direction than what they have right now, and that's interesting. So you know, the console has a place, but it's just it's not interesting in the way they used to be. And I think now everyone having access to things like a super fast SSD and a you know, at least better processor, being able to do all this dec

compression or anything. Yeah, they're having what we've had PC for a long time now. I think that's great for sure. Yeah. The consistency, I will say, the consistency of playing video games on the Xbox series X and the PlayStation five is leads ahead of the PlayStation four. Yes, yeah, I mean the playfacks four had a laptop hard drive in it. Yeah, basically netbook. Yeah, it was awful, like awful stuff. So like from a will the game run reliably? You can be like, yeah,

and it'll run pretty good, so for sure video game. Hey Sean, do you see the Doori's famed Persona slash taka leak your Madoria saying that Persona one and two remakes are coming. Oh maybe like step back from like remake remake, like some kind of updated form of Persona one and two. Interesting okay, because we heard from I think someone other than Midori, which is why it's like, you know, people don't take it when as much series as that, two and four were like lined up. So it sounds

like the very least two would be the one that's considered. I bet they are all going to get that treatment eventually. I mean four is absolutely going to happen, but one and two is interesting because those games do not play much like the Persona three four five formula. They're basically just different games. Like they are two Persona almost what Tea is too Persona. They're so different. I mean, it is like you have like high school students, right,

and like that's kind of it because it's more recruiting. It's kind of more of like a what I remember. It's a kind of more grid based placement stuff matters combat. It's real, yeah, weird and different. You don't have social links, you don't have the calendar. I think that's a first person Dungeon Crawler is like like all those games. It's a lot more like the old school set games. You have the actual like demon negotiating and

all that stuff too. So yeah, just impress. You guys went this long without talking about the colors want to Matter I think and white video game. Yeah, that's the weird thing about Persona. Like you know, it's kind of like Street Fighter too. How Street Fir two is kind of the first blood, like no disrespect PERSDA what to do? They are good?

But like what I think talking about how I really like Persona. What I mean is like that series that started with PERSDA three, but I really like that's overwhelmingly that's where Persona, as most of us like it started, So he kind of just one and two one two deserves some sort of update though, just to bring it into uh, you know, into play with everything else. Nicky Raising giant bomb dot com. Hi, Yeah, Nikki Grayson, Giant bomb dot Com. Folks in chat are saying that Hitler is in

Persona likes so much. Yes, I believe that's the Jeff Drobe's pin tweet. If you go to twet Hitler's my pin tweet. Yeah, I mean I think the soul of Hitler is involved. Yeah. Yeah, they bring up Hitler and they're sorry about it. Okay, Yeah, I don't want to say too much because I'm trying to think of but yeah, there is just a character not named Taylor, named something else who is just Hitler, and I believe he's a boss character or something. So yokai you can capture

him and make him fight other yokai. They know, Well, good for you so much about me, Jeff just every all these things. Yeah, nailing it. Remember was that Persona too when they were trying to like just name it series revelations in the US for a little bit that was the first one. The first one was Revelations Persona. Yeah, yeah, it was Persona two. And then here in the West, Meyers saying is this was

never the case. Over in Japan they call it shimmagami tense Persona. That was specifically a thing for right, I remember seeing that, right, Yeah, because this is weird because they had like thought that we really loved s MT after was on PS two. Yeah, I guess what the time, they did localize a good amount of SMT games. On PS two you had Nocturn and the the the action based ones in Digital Devil Saga, so like, I guess there were a few of them, so they invested in that

name. But yeah, Persona became so much bigger than that. I'm I'm looking at a Reddit thread and they're like they are kind of trying to force the coloring scheme onto the first two games, Like the first one was kind of white and gray and the second one was red and black, and then but Persona five is red and black also, so yeah, they just want to do in that what is Persona too Innocent sin? So they're two Persona two games, and they're basically like Part one and Part two we only got

part one in the US originally, so it was messed up. It's just like a half Oh I see. Yeah. Is Persona as a spin off as big as Extreme Makeover Home Edition was relative to Extreme Makeover Origin? Is Extreme Makeover Home Edition on the mount rushmore of spin offs of spin offs? Real quick? It's more mess up than I thought. We only got part two we did, Okay, that's what I Part two is two. I guess maybe Part one had Hitler. Maybe that was I think that's it.

I think that literally is it? Yes, the mystery saw Hitler. But all right, I think what we're gonna do now is we're gonna take a quick break. When we get back, we'll talk about our topic for this episode right after this twenty twenty four, it's a year on the calendar. But are there any more video games? Scientists still aren't sure. We're gonna do our best to figure it out. Nikki has their answer. No, no, no, more games are over. Yeah, games are over.

Okay, So yeah. The reason we're doing this is, like, like I said, at the beginning of the episode last week, we were like, hey, what are your favorite games of the year so far? We all put our lists together. It's been a stacked year so far, and then you do look ahead and say, okay, things are starting to slow down, but that doesn't mean there's absolutely nothing. But then that backs the question, what is there? We're gonna do this in a couple of tiers.

We're gonna do our most anticipated game that's announced and has a date, then a game that might come out, and then a game that is a long shot. There'll be some overlap. We'll kind of make it more discussion based, but yeah, where should we start for the game that we're most excited about that definitely has a date to anyone have one they want to throw out? I mean it did just have you know that store reveal in a release eight come out? Star Wars Outlaws is something that pretty imminent that I'm

thinking about a lot right now. Yeah, same here, and I think it looks pretty promising from the trailers, uh even the like that revealed trailer from Summer Game Fest last year wherever it was like, this looks pretty solid. I'm pretty down with what Massive has done. I thought the Division games are a good time. I thought that Avatar game was really solid all things considered, and this looks like they are putting a lot more effort into it,

So I'm really hopeful. And I like the Star Wars games that is about the grimy underworld, so and this is definitely that. Yeah, we got enough Jedi games. Yeah that's yeah, that's exactly what I was gonna say. So so much of Star Wars is in Marvel's issue too, right, is like, oh, we never saw the Lightsabers mod that I put in the game, that we saw it loaded, we saw a sword. I will have assumed that would have been at but no, Yeah, me

too. We've had so many canceled like Star Wars games that were trying to be some kind of underworldy more because there was Star Wars with the numbers whatever that was tag Amy Headings Joy that didn't happen, an A and a game that they didn't multiple size it. There was there was another EA game that that I heard about that that that has been talked about in other places,

but it was also going to be an underworld game. And the people I talked to you were like, yeah, we were going to kind of do this simulation of the galactic economy where you are working as a smuggler, and it was going to be kind of like sid Meers Pirates, the Star Wars game I always really wanted, So I've been kind of sad ever since then

this this looks kind of like it's going for that vibe. Yeah, And it like it seems like it's approaching these spaces in the way that I want them to be approached, which is to say that, like, I have no interest in kind of being on a big planet that has jackshit on it. I want a very I want it to be like like shadow Box, ye, Like I want it to be very detailed and intentionally designed. And

I am okay if it is small. If you are putting me in a city that feels like it has lived in and people are active in like, that is more engaging to me than anything. And I hope to God that there are no Jedi in it. Yeah, so it's set between Empires and Return of the Jedi, which is when there would be the fewest jedire.

That is not a promise that there won't be on again. I mean, how did you guys feel when like the trailer was like it's Jaba the Because even even f I should give it a little bit, but even that I was a little bit of course, I think like Java being important tracks right,

like completely makes sense? Yes, right, but that that and that's why I'm like, I'm down with that a little bit more than I am like Kira from this from Solo a Starlar story, being like, well, now she's in charge of that game will bring Okay, that just that feels a little bit more forced, and yet it does make an enough since because she's in charge of this criminal syndicate and that is one of the things that

you were interacting with commonly in this game, So I get it. But if they kind of go above that, and it is if like Luke Skylbarker shows up, yeah, I'm mad, Yeah, like legitimately and actually like I'm mad if a lightsaber, if I get to hold the lightsaber in this game, I'm actually annoyed. How would you feel? How would you feel if they did a bit where like a lightsaber shows up and they're just like, who who wants one of these? Or what is that thing? Yeah?

Right, this is stupid. This is stupid. I have a gun shoot lightsabers. That'd be a good bite if you found it. You're like, oh man, this is gonna be worth so much. When I fence it and they're like, nobody wants these these this is get it out. Yeah, that'd be cool. All right, let's keep it moving. Then who's got the next game? That's me baby. Ntua A Football twenty five

Return to Form. It's really weird. I hadn't played a Madden game in a few years, and right before the Super Bowl, I downloaded the game on the free trial and I did an entire season, like a creative character season. Oh and I had a blast, like I think Matt like if as a person who is not really looking at Madden for a simulation situation, I'm looking for some time in between or something in between, like an arcade

experience like an NFL blitz. But I do want a little I want more plays, right, Like I do want to be able to do motion offense and move my guys around in that kind of stuff. And like getting get out twenty five minutes, you play a game of Madden fucking ruled like I

thought. It felt so good. And the thing that I really liked about the nt double A games in the past is that while the the franchise mode stuff in the Madden games got really boring and stale, Like I was always looking for, like the ability to change the price of popcorn at my thing, because that's like really what I got into when I was playing Madden O five in NT double because it's a college and like you get and there's so

many College football is so fucking weird. There's like conferences and alignment and now

like there's a transfer portal, which did not exist before. You're gonna like there's so many silly like institutional things that I hope make their way into playing the game that I'm really excited to play it in franchise mode and like pick a random school and move it from either being like out of conference or like and move it into a conference and like move it up with division because like those storylines you just can't do in a Madden game because everyone's at the same

level. Like, I'm really excited about that from a from a game play building perspective, I'm excited about it. Do you expect those those features to be in here from the first line, because I'm like, I'm worried about it that they're like kind of like we got the football and yet we have something akin to a transfer protocol. I'm just I'm worried about the robustness of it. I am you're your copit, So I'm confident because it's like a

little bit what the fuck are you doing otherwise? Honestly, like and I considering it is just going to be the Madden engine slightly tweaked a little bit, like if if they haven't been building this these mechanics, I like really don't know what they've been working on. Yeah, that's the frustrat thing I hear. I hear about development is that they don't want this to be last year's Maden reskinned. Yeah, they want this kind of to stand on its

own. I'm like, it's okay if it's last year's Maden reskinned. As long as you have all the right college football on top of it, that's all we really need. So focus on that. But I guess make it a very good, fun to play football game will be key as well. It's huge. When is that coming out? Because I I've meant to say this Star Wars about August thirtieth. When is this autu? I think also August. I will look it up NCAA. That would be the right time

for the football season twenty five. They haven't any gameplay from that game, which is nuts either, right, I think they last time I talked about it, I think they said they would show it off in the next couple of months. Yeah, so yeah, I don't think it has an official date yet that they'll probably do all of that at the same time. Then all right, next up, Mikey, is it gonna be an MMO year

for you? It kind of is. I think it's gonna be a big MML year, which is a good thing to have, and what might be a lighter year because yeah, this summer, I gotta look that up. This Foul Fantasy fourteen down trail, so the next expansionon for that, this one has going to kind of have some some tropical vacation vibes to it,

which I think is gonna be really exciting. It's also the start of a new storyline, the kind of storyline that did start with a realm reborn even a bit in like the original Foul Fantasy fourteen had its big finale with the last expansion and Walker, So like, I think everyone's kind of spending dontro to start off real light and fun, but then there's gonna be stuff happening that's going to kind of lead us to like another really big ten year story

arc, and you know we have new jobs. I think Picto Mancer looks really neat. It's uh like an artist who uses the magic paintbrush to murder people like pick Mickey, like thick Mickey. Yeah, we'll say that's coming back to So I'm looking forward to try that out. Basic fourteen. It has just been so good for a while now. Any new content of that I am looking forward to. But then yeah, like later this year.

It doesn't have an exact release date yet, but World Warcraft The War Within is going to come out, and but World of Warcraft in general, it's just kind of popping off real hard right now. They added a Battle Royale mode that people like a classic is happening. Yeah, sorry, correct, you told me this before, And I'm meant to be like, wait, what would it take for me to do to play that? Like I hoplate in I don't know, I don't, I don't know if you have to

be mex level. It's it's I need to check it out myself. Still. It's called Plunderstorm. It's all pirate themed stuff. It's like a yeah, so it's a World Warcraft pirate themed battle Royale. But is it still just World of war TV. No, I think it's different, Like I don't think you necessarily taken your class ability. I don't know, I need to try it. But I think people actually saying all you need is a sub. It doesn't even use your real characters. That's it. It doesn't

use your real character. So so that's all you need is a sub and you can hop right into it. Currently, maybe we need to check that out. Then, Yeah, that sounds like a wild time. If that's the first way that I ever played World of Warcraft, that would be ideal. People are like, you know, like I like to peek in at the World Warcraft subreddit and you know, for the last decade it's just people

complaining. And I was in there the other day and people are happy, Like people had like the mean like the guy hold like to like getting offered too much stuff. It was like all the positive things. Hell, yeah, good person. Yeah, because like there's like apparently subscriptions are at like a very good point maybe seven point five million ish, which is insane.

So with everything else that's like not going great, maybe a blizzard, they're that although en erual, a lot of things seem to be getting righty there because people seem very excited about the new season of the album four, which is coming out in like a couple of days. I kind of want to

check that out. You know, Overwatch too is still overwatched too, but yeah, you know, it could also bounce back, like people in the reddit being happy for you, though, Like while I was like, yeah, I could put it off to the side and I'll come back to it, were you starting to feel kind of worn down by it as well? Yeah? I mean I definitely was kind of like over it a bit because I had played pretty intensely for a while, especially when when war Wards of

drain Or came out, which is not a good expansion. I did play a lot of it, and I also played a lot of Legion, and I even played a good amount of Battle for Azeroff, which is not a liked expansion at all. And then after that was shadow Lands. Shadow Lands was the low point that was just a bad so you had like a banger after banger of things kind of ruined in your experience, right that you got burned out on it At that time. At least was playing Classic and that

was fun, but like I was playing Classic with people. It took classic pretty seriously. So for you, we're all of that. I was just done and from Fantasy fourteen was there, and I was playing a lot of that, and it was just more of my speed. But now I'm at a point where I almost have like equal amounts of time devoted to both of those games. I could kind of just jump back and forth between them whenever

I want to. Uh, Sean, we don't have to go in order, So if you had one on this list you want to bring up, feel free to go for it. No, it's okay, Well let's just keep going in order. It's cool, okay, all right. Yeah. The next one we have here is Indiana Jones in the Great Circle, which I didn't put on here, but I feel good about it as well. Who dropped this one? I put it on there. I am looking forward

to this quite a bit. I still like Indiana Jones. Yeah, And I think, honestly, I think the great thing about doing a video game is that we can make kind of the Indiana Jones adventure that you really can't with movies anymore for a variety of reasons these days. So just like, hey, we're going to make like a trip people, and all the people and Disney. Yeah, absolutely, you got it. I don't know what we see so far looks good and oh my god, you know that this

developer, Yeah, the Machine Games makes good video games. Yeah, they're just not gonna they made a bad game here. Yeah, And I'm like legitimately excited to see what that like. No, that my favorite part, and and maybe this is a mistake in thinking, but my favorite part about Wolf at the Wolf and the New Wolf and Sign Games is that it was

entirely unpredictable what the fuck was going to happen next? And I was like strapped in amped about every single thing that was happening because the writing was so good, the pacing was so strong, and it felt the stakes all kind of felt legitimate, and like Indiana Jones built in has those steaks right, And I'm really I'm just really excited to see what they do with this story. I doubt someone's gonna get beheaded and have their head put on a different

body in this one, but who can say. Yeah, I'm a huge machine games fan, I love those Wolfenstein games, and I love Indiana Jones, So yeah, that's it's taking a lot of boxes for me. I am like unsure of how this game. I mean, we saw a little bit of it so far, and when we do see it, it's like, you know what, I think this can work. I just actually maybe I am worried about the first person perspective a little bit. Well, I think I think they can. You can make a good Indiana Jones game that's

the first person. It's not that. I think it's them being a situation where like they want to make the game that they're good at, and then they feel pressure to do those like third person sections, which they also said are in the game. Because it's like, well, you got to see Indiana Jones, and I'm like, oh, if they're feeling that pressure, I wonder if they're just not confident about it or something, and that's what's

maybe betraying it to me a little bit. So Okay, I'm glad you brought that up, because I thought you were the our way around where you were like, shut the hell up, like first person is fine. But I mean I I am outwardly that way. Internally I'm conflicted. Oh god, So yeah, because I'm in the same spot where I'm looking at it's like, I mean, they are good at making first person games, and

I like you, I I love the first person games. It's just it feels so unnecessary because if you're obviously, if it's what you're good at, that's what you expect the studio to do. But the fact that they are doing the third person segments seems like, well, okay, they're they're programming for this, they're accounting for the third person stuff, and if people are expecting a third person game at that point, it feels to me like they're

almost just doing it in first person to be different. And in addition to the fact that they are good making those games, that's what they're comfortable with. So if you're looking for a third person video game where you can be Indian Entrance and I know, I think games is Fortnite. Oh oh okay the game and it is very good. I don't know, I'm not I'm not really worried about any of that. You know what, It almost gonna think of Betroit Prime, right where like, yeah, sometimes it kind of

pulls out a little bit when you whatever out. I think that's what's going to feel like, oh, you're climbing up a ladder. They're going to pull out for that more fall making you not vomit by going in third versus a little bit different than indies shimmying along a ledge, which is something that he is in, something like Metro Prime. Yeah. I think the spirit might be the same though, and we won't know until we play it. Yeah, once we're playing it, we might be like, oh, of

course they had to go third person here, this feels right. I would have made the same choice if I was in their shoes. We'll see. I'm just I want that game to feel as epic and dramatic and theatrical as possible, because it's how those are the things I think of with Indiana Jones, And I'm just not sure until I play it that that's how I'm gonna feel, right, all right. A couple more games on our Most Anticipated Announced Games avowed This one. Is this one actually coming out this year or

we as a twenty four release date? God, I keep forgetting that twenty four. Now. I think if this was, if this is like the one on this list that's pushed back, I think it'd be the least surprising. Yeah, for sure, I'm curious about this one. This is another one where I really think I have to play it, where I really know how I feel about it. When I see it in video, I'm like, I see some elements of like the you know, the magic hands doing

magic stuff that looks somewhat appealing to me. And then the characters go and talk to one another like they do in Obsidian games, and I'm like, Okay, yeah, I hope that system is as deep as it can be in other Obsidian games. But I'm like, Okay, I think they'll probably nail that moment to moment. What am I doing? Is that fun? Is that interesting? And do I feel good about exploring that world? I really have no idea right at this point. At this point, yeah,

I feel pretty confident in Obsidian's ability to to pull this one off. I guess part of me is is a little curious about the scale because I, you know, I like the outer worlds. I want something a little bit

bigger than that. I really confined. Yes, yeah, yeah, Like I'm in a way that is like kind of the opposite of what I was saying about Star Wars Outlaws, right, Like, yes, the whole thing about the outer worlds, that's right, Yeah, I'll think about the outer worlds is that it is almost as big as I wanted it to be right,

but it was not. It was just to see the seams in outer worlds more than you want to. How the world says that problem that a lot of these sci fi games have because it's like, well, you're gonna go to these different planets, so things should feel bigger. It's just like, here's like four smaller maps instead of one big one, and that always actually feels a lot smaller than just having the one big Skyrim style map. Y awid that problem together? Yeah? Yeah, if I can see the

planet on a map, that means you fucked up right? Yeah? I mean, any other thoughts about a vowed before we move on? I think dual dual wanding? That's neat uh. Stellar Blade. This is the one that's coming up at the end of this month. PlayStation five combat action game, character action game. I am. I think I keep getting an urge to go back to this demo, which apparently a lot of people are the demos like, has a lot of players. Apparently. I think this game

is going to be pretty solid and a good time. Is everyone still feeling that way after playing the demo? Or have you not played the demo? What's up? Oh? Yeah, I'm Yeah, I put this on here because I am encouraged after the demo. It's what I was hoping the game would be. It's not quite a Platinum style character action game, but is in the vein of a more Devil May cryish one with you know, shades of Sacro and stuff like we've discussed before. And I'm just really looking forward

to this. One Of any game that has like an announced announced release dates so far, this is the one I'm looking forward to the most. It's also the one of the more recent ones, honest list. It comes on in what two weeks, so I'm going forward to getting my hands on because I had a great time with the demo. I think I think the demo is you know, it's a vertical slice, So maybe some people were underwhelmed but not realizing that in these games the combat only gets better as you unlock

stuff. So I'm looking forward to the potential of what this game could end up being, even more so than what we've already seen and played. Yeah, I think the one thing that worries me is a me thing, not a game thing, where Perry windows are something that either click with me or they don't, or they take a long time to click with me sometimes, and it's like in some games, it's like this just feels right. Secroo

just felt right. I was able to nail it, And maybe that is a little bit of a game thing because here I'm like, I'm trying to look at the enemies, trying to predict their movements, trying to understand their animations that lead into the perry window, and it's like that just doesn't feel quite right. It did click more and more as I played it, so I'm hoping that it will fall into place for real as I'm playing the real

game more quickly than it did when I was playing the demo. But other than that, it's like, eah, yeah, that's something, Yeah, go ahead. That for me differentiates it beat and what definitively makes a character action game rather than souls like is the fact that souls you tend to like observe the enemy moar and like look at their movements and their followds and everything. Character action is more about the rhythm and knowing like, yeah, it

is my turn, it's still my turn. It's almost the end of my turn. Get ready to then they'll be there turned, they'll toss out, attack up and figure out the rhythm of things, and that's that. That's here, and I'm looking forward to checking that out. Who's excited about definitive edition that has? I am? You know, hey, SO was a three d Oh exclusive first person shooter. It eventually got a PlayStation on one port, but yeah, this was a three DO shooter. It never came

out to PC. It is very much a shooter from that area. You play as a very angry space chef. He's po'. You might say, it's just it's just one of those doom likes, but it was just kind of silly and weird and kind of a product of history. Ninth Time Studio SO has done a lot of these first person shooter remasters, like Dark Forces, recently, all the Tarrock games Quake one and two. On April Fool's

Day they announced they're gonna do a definitive edition of this. So then like the day after, like, no, we're serious, this is actually happening, and I'm very excited. I have a weird fascination with the three d O the fact that this game is going to be like on PC finally, I think that's really neat, Like you have a jetpack this game for some reason, like of all the boomer shooters that are like actual boomer shooters, not modern ones, this is one of the weirder ones. I'm very excited

to go back to it. Oh fun, And they constantly do great jobs with these, with these remastering So man, right, like one of your like one of you like your first weapons is just like an infinite supply of like bloody butcher knives that you throw at people, and that it's gonna be pastic Is this Does this mean that, like, well we might not even all be around by then, but like when Sean and I are forty eight, we're gonna get We're gonna get like amazing island, Like Sega's gonna make

an amazing island. Hell, HD re release that Night Dive is that by night like Night Dive is gonna make a brand new amazing island. Hell yes, that's sounds like a healthscape that when I was young. Oh sorry, they haven't remade any of the games that I liked when I was nine, So this game doesn't have a release date yet, but I assume it's gonna be sometimes this year. This isn't something that's going to take a whole lot

of time, Right, we missed that. I think Indiana Jones, like the rumor is like December for that, So that's the only one that has a date that we know about or might know about, all right, metaphor re Fantasio. This is the more fantasy take on an RPG from the Persona team, right, Fantasy Persona. Fantasy Persona is the well this this team spun off of the Persona team. This is basically the original original issue. Could say Persona team going off to do a different thing, and then there's

a different team that's now taken on Persona over there. Okay, cool, I believe, But looking at it, looking at it, it's like, yeah, this is something from the proof of the people that make Persona, but fantasy. I always thought this game looked really cool when we saw it in the was the Xbox Showcase last E three they announced this and Reload at the same time, right, and I thought it looked pretty impressive. How are you guys feeling about it? As a Persona fans? Strong, I

think it looks very good. My one thing, and it's a small thing, is that I think part of what makes Persona interesting is that they made a really cool RP JRPG that isn't fantasy, like almost all of them are, right, so like you know, to be like, hey, let's like do a different setting. Let's just go back to fantasy. It's partly like okay, but whatever, though, they're going to find a ways to

make it interesting and to make it distinct. And I guess I'm curious to see, like what is different here, right, because I think we still have a calendar system and things like that that might even still be social links,

right, So it's a lot of Persona stuff in there. I think it will just be Persona but in a different style setting, which I'm actually kind of down for because I mean, as much as other rpg have been high fantasy before, have we really had a game like Persona in a high fantasy setting where it is so much about that calendar system and you know, uh, figure out, I'm going to do this in the first half of the day, this in the second half of the day, and then form

this very structured social link with everyone that feeds back into the gameplay in a tangible way. I know there's so many RPGs have, you know, forming relationships with your traveling companions and everything. Obviously BioWare is big onto that and stuff like that, but I feel like in this specific way. A couple couple of people pointed out three houses, I guess, but like sure, yeah yeah, and also three houses is kind of just persona in some way,

so I guess you're right about that. It's a pretty different flavor of fantasy, right, This is like almost like more like Alis in Wonderland's almost a little bit I don't know, that's exactly right. Yeah, that's the art thing I wanted to point out. It's not exactly a high fantasy. It is more I'm trying to think, Yeah, it's like absurd or what I'm not thinking the wrong Yeah, those words of bike. But yeah, it's a surrealist, That's what I'm trying to It's a bit surrealist mixed in

with the high fantasy. Psychedelic is not wrongly that just came up in chat. That's good one too, where I think they're getting a little wild. I think we saw maybe a little bit of maybe technology in there in almost like a magic tech type of way in that initial trailer, which I think Jeff might have pulled up here. So I think it's just going to be a different vibe than your typical high fantasy just it just looks. It looks

like it has. As someone in Chatman I think warden Cliff mentioned it has the juice, the menu system, all that stuff like these games always do. Oh yeah, that that's the thing that just came up the trailer was what I was talking about. It like the character has maybe a hoverbart or something like that, or maybe they're just doing magic, but some yeah, there's an airship like something about this mixture of a little bit of technology in

the vein of some final fantasies or main monster hunt type thing. I think that's very appealing to me, mixed with the persona formula. I think it's going to be a really interesting game, and it is still nebulous. Twenty twenty four I think the last we heard they did say a fall of twenty twenty four is the target. But yeah, no exact date just yet,

but it's likely coming out. I think what's interesting is like you still obviously have like the things in your party, but they might not actually be personas this time, Like we're not like we're not those teams. I think it might be people in this time, right, So that's interesting Yeah, they've been working on this for a long time, so I won't be surprised if this like runs deeper than we think. It's just because own ip showed up

at Xbox, people are like, oh that game. I was like, Oh, this is the thing that you guys have known about for a long time. The project or re Fantasy it was aw has in like twenty fifteen or something. They've been cooking and you'll get this trailer. I'm looktting more excited. Very good games. I'm pumped for this. It looks yeah, all right, last one on the ones that are announced to have a date Pokemon Trading Card Game Pocket Talk your shit. I'm just excited. I put

it on slightly as a joke. I am legitimately excited because the current Pokemon TCG simulator ain't great, but it's also not very gamified. I think this is going to fix one of fix both of those problems. Really, and while I'm just more interesting because it's another way for me to play a TCG, which I'm always into. I play different formats and stuff. I'm excited that I think like this is the kind of game where y'all on the call

with me here probably like haven't even touched Pokemon TCG Live. But when this trailer came up, you know, like we're going to call me Nicky Mike Jan we were, and I was like, this is the kind of game you people might be into, these people all y'all to bring to just because my brain's too small for ye all. Non super on the second board the same time. Yeah, I'm fucking amped about this legitimately, and actually I love to play it. There's if there's one thing about me is that I

love to play a mobile card game. For two and a half months, and that was me with Marble Snap. It was the best two and a half months I've ever had on my phone. And then I'm really excited to play this for also two and a half months showing the right thing. Is this the four hundred dollars board game thing? Or that is just six though it's called poke about trading Card game Classic not not the thing that I just put into the chat that you can have there. It's most of the words

are the same though, it's the thing weird game based on this? Can they send us this? Yeah, I don't have Wonderfu halfway through trade? Yeah, I definitely want to check this out looks. Yeah, yeah, because you like it's a simpler way to play the game, so I think it's gonna be more accessible. I it's gonn immersive cards. I'm sorry. So what the trailer said, you know, the car is going to be surrounded by people playing this and he's gonna be pure pressure. Yeah, exactly,

I can't pressure. We'll get to me. I'm gonna get the Pokemon coming about that, I didn't say, thank you, Mike, all right, okay, So that moves us to our next tier, which are the most anticipated games that we think might come out. This is gonna be a little bit of shorter list. We've got a number of big ones in here. I do think we should start with Spoon Heaven, Heaven Heaven or Hollow Night. Silk Song is just Spoon Heaven in my brain now at this point,

that's all it is. I believe. I think this keeps coming out this year. I think it might even come out soon. You know, got those raty things. And that's great because Hallow Night is such a fantastic game. I I've kind of had to stop myself from going back to it because it's a very big game and I just don't really have time to spend playing that right now, and not kind of catching up with new releases at the moment, but the fact that they have been cooking so long on this.

If there's ever any thought that this was going to be kind of like like the Miles Morales style like expand alone thing, No, this is Hollow Night too, is my dictation now, and I'm pretty sure that is exactly what we're gonna get. I'm just looking at like this trailer here. These games look so good and the just watching the specific movement, like how you know you're the character here as a bit of a different moveseet than from the

first Hall of Night. You had this very specific kind of diagonal downward slash thing that you can use to kind of bounce off enemies. Oh my gosh, this game is looking so gorgeous. I just like Hallow Night and I've missed it and I can't wait to go back to that kind of game. I love flash animation. I don't like the way this that's crazy. That's a crazy thing. I don't see it. I don't know. You know, me and grub Well, we don't love Hollow Night. And even we're

like that's a crazy take. Yeah, I A. I don't think that's that. I do not see it when I look at this game for sure. That was never my problem, and I don't really have that much of a problem with it. It's just there's no way you wouldn't like Hallow Night. I think I said the games that you do like. You literally played Hollow Night and said I don't like this, Mike, what more do you want from them? I played an hour and I said I didn't. You

went back to it. I know you're old, you probably don't remember it, but you went back to it and you're like, yeah, Mike, I'm sorry. I still don't like it. This is you like this? You like the Castle, Paian, this is just that better in some ways. In this distressed tone in your voice, the game of the year, I'm stressed. Fire Emblem, Genealogy of the Holy World remain still fake every

game name in my presence for almost a calendar year now. It's not like it isn't real, like you're making because the name of it, yes, yeah, that's just the existing name of the game. It cannot be the existing name of the game game. Anyone doesn't know. This is like I forget the exact numbering, but it's like fire Emblem four or something on the Super or super Famy com specifically, And we in the West didn't get fire Emblem at all until I believe seven or eight on the Game Boy Advance.

The game that we just called fire almb was. It wasn't in the first one in the GBA. It was a sequel to an existing GBA one. But exactly this is a game that, like you know, people talk up and so naturally it was set to get a remake, And we've been hearing and maybe for a vrious sources that hey, this game just exists and they're just sending on it. You know, is it is it mechanically interesting or

different from them, or is it just one that never came out? I mean, I think us I think it's very similar to what those games were at that time, which is kind of the bones of what you get these days. But in a remake I mentioned, they'll add a lot of pressure nice new features, the three Houses viae. They might rename it from Genealogy a Holy War, but this will almost assuredly be Fire Emblem echoes something, right. I think the reason why people liked this one specifically from like the

sixteen bit ones is because it had a particularly good story. I see cool. So hey more Fireman, and I mean the fire them is a franchise they rely on consistently, Like there's no way they're not. Also like they're making a new fire for sure, but there's also no way they weren't making something like this another remake. They're kind of going back and forth with these one after the other. Uh, Like, hey, I like this one. Jurassic Parks Survival. Yeah, the Game Game Awards where I got announced.

I don't think so. I think so. And so this is the Alien Isolation sort of like a game that is where you play as a character trying to survive in Jurassic Park act not Jurassic World. Jurassic Park where the dinosaurs have escaped and you power is out the powers. That's the most part. It's a power restoration shut shout outs to the ben I'm gonna be on the Trivia Tower in like a week and a half. Everybody look out for that. But that's like just straight up a good idea. That's it's a

great idea. Takeing in Isolation, put dinosaurs in there. Done, and I hope I hope it comes across the finish line in a really strong way. I think that that trailer looks great. Uh. The aesthetics of Dress Park one are just so good, from like the actual like dinosaur habitats, to like the weird kind of like natural history museum meets theme park look of the buildings, and then like the real like you know, like like realistic

like infrastructure stuff that all that stuff just hits for me. And seeing it in this triple A presentation, I was immediately all about this. I think that this is such a fantastic idea. I hope it delivers on that. I think this just doesn't really have a release date yet, so I'm not sure if it is this year, but I'm willing to wait. Whatever it is, I'm excited. Sure. Oh shit, and it's got the door

closing tech from the division, that's right. I get Like I remember Backlar being like, oh, it didn't look good goodechno technologically, like the frame rates really low in this trailer and stuff like that. But I think that's it's gonna be dark anyway. Yeah right, yeah, you're not gonna see those frames. It is. Who's making it, I can't remember sab right. Yeah, okay, so I'm hopeful. I'm very hopeful. All right, what do we have next? Zenless Zone zero? Who's the freak for

this one? Oh? You know who the freak is for this one? This is uh, this next game. And they have a tendency to take something that some one else did and put their own spin. You know. Genshin was obviously against an Impact looked like Breath of a Wild in many ways, but it was sort of like an open world RPG, and then home k Star Rail is their take on Persona very obviously. Zeendless Zone zero is this game that is a character action game, allegedly. I don't know.

I still know if this game is real. This is wild. I follow their Twitter account. It Yeah, people have played it. It's been at eventsives at packs East, and like this game exists in some form, but they keep just not giving us a date and everything. It's very odd, but I don't know. Like I mentioned, character action games are so few and far between that anytime we get one that looks solid and died pop off and you'll look at this one like the anime like cells shaded ish style that's

going for another thing. It just looks cool, and that's the sort of overst over the top silliness you want in a character action game. So I think this is you want to play as the mad girl or the big actual bear person in a suit. I think he's a wolf island. Know the characters are wild, trust me. There's an actually there's a there's a wolf, but there is also an actual bear. Okay, this might be a

mad girl. There are three yeah, more specific. Yeah, I really just I just I wish this was just going to be a regular video game though, Like like I have, I have such a an antithetical stance on the way that they monetize these video games. Yeah, I know that I can't eat. I can't even get started on them. So like if it was sixty dollars and then I didn't have to pay anything, yeah money, right, Yeah, it's not going to be that, which is a bummer, So I just don't touch it. I'll look at it from afar.

I I'll read a story that's like I bet my whole house and my kids Porsche on this. Yeah, that's the problem I there. I hate that they're gotcha games because I know Mike's the same way where it's like, oh gotcha, therefore I won't play it. But I can't emphasis emphasize this enough. You just never have to touch that stuff. You never have to touch that stuff, even like you have to go out of your way a little bit to see it. But I understand people being like, but I know

it's there, and it's like it's on the menu. I'm not just going like necessarily that, but like, but it's also the scum baggery I know of it all is like it's not even that like Honkai Starrail. I just don't want that kind of game to be a live service game. I want that to be something where it's like, okay, I know, like where the end is sure and I move on my life. I think about that person there's a Persona mobile game, right that's very star sorry, right,

okay? Is that what that is? Okay? And it like would you guys really want But it's like the literal Persona game coming out, yeah you know, I mean literally x yes exactly, and that that is going to be live service, right, and it's gonna be it's gonna be like, well, yeah, that's interested in it, right, yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing I have no problem because I'm like, there's just gonna be a story there that I'm gonna play. It's a cannon persona story.

It's gonna play like persona. And like, I'm sure the story is coming out in chapters effectively, what's gonna happen? Like, I don't know, your heart will also harden turbo Sean, you will not be able to This is hilarious. On any given week when I'm on this show, people go from being like Sean is the most jaded person on earth, because why is Sean not more shaded? It's a swing so wildt next one. I'm excited about that. I you know, this one's a rumor for me, so

hey, take it with the greatest salt. I suppose. But I hear that that new Astrobot game later this year, I really hope as well. Please. I am also willing myself to get my hopes up that it will be a full, real, real game game, which they haven't done with astro so far, other than I guess the VR game, which also I think that's a caveat of its own, as far as a caveat, and I don't want a caveat anyeah, No, not at all. But Astro Rules that you know they did, you know Astro's Playroom as a launch thing

with the PS five and so good. It's great at the museum, it's great as a fun game. It's it's great as the speed run game where I'm actually showing one of Mike Manatti's a speed run from Mountain Run here. Yes, And it's like simple where there's not a ton of different mechanics, and yet it's just so satisfying and you feel good moving around the world, so that as a three D platformer, it just nails what it meats to nail, and then it gives you a ton of fun stuff happening around you.

Yeah, I really like that. Man, Mike, you were twenty first in the world when you did that one. I went by. At one point, I wasn't the top ten the best I got and then uh, I think by the end of it you you were, you were better than me. You did beat me at that point, I beat you though. That was all I cared about then. But right next name Astro's Playroom, Playroom, Mountain Run, better than Jeff Grubb is the name of that's very good. Uh, Metroid Prime to remaster. God, I hope so

yes, that listen, why wouldn't they do that? I just don't exactly like, but there's a bunch of stuff, but it's time is weird specifically because we're wondering, well, what is filling out this year and we're expecting it to be kind of remix and remasters. Yeah, they did one remaster. They have to be considering a second one, right for sure. I think that we did consider it. And it's like something that I've heard was basically ready to go. But it's Nintendo. They have things that they put

on their shelf and maybe sometimes they don't pull them down. I actually I don't know, like what is the energy required to like pull one of these projects down off the shelf and be like, Okay, now it's ready to go. And when I say shelf, that's not like, oh, we've iced the project and it's not in the works. It's like, no, they finished it and they're waiting for the right time to put it out. Does it like require an effort at that point or is it literally a switch

they can flip and be like now that is out. And if it's not that, maybe sometimes they were like, oh, well we've changed our mind. We're going to hold onto that for a little year or something like that. Do you think that it even makes sense for them to Well, I've talked myself into it, but I'll say it outside. I was gonna say, does it make sense if because I don't think Metrod Prime four is coming

this year. I think it comes next year. So do you does it make sense for them to put it out at the end of or in the summer, like drop it in the summer, because I'm just trying to think that, Like, I feel like you launch the switch with Metrod Prime four, it's the switch to you with Metrod Prime four. But then I wouldn't then put that game out in the fall and then give it three ish months, assuming like a spring release for the switch. I think at this point

you just put it out whenever. Really the first one, Yeah, just like fill in a gap. That's what's more about, is that there are going to be some droughts here on the switch. Probably you gotta plug those holes. It's right, it's a Nintendo's a whole plugging company. That's their main that's they fill holes. Man, I forgot about this one Metal Gear

Solid Delta Snake. Yeah, what fucked me up? Is when I looked at a list preparing for this, apparently they're saying this is twenty twenty four, right, they did, right, there was that trailer I thought where it just said twenty four four. I forgot about that. I just I just have no idea what to really expect from twenty twenty four Konami. Yeah, I like, right, they have no I have no reason to believe that this video game is going to be good. Right, Well, that's

the thing Hill two also this year. Jesus, yes, they that's almost one of the controversy of this game is that's going to be so much of just the original game, new graphics. It's the original game, Unreal Engine four, Slash five, whatever may be. Maybe that's the move if like you don't have like a really super strong development team to like go in there and try to reimagine things. Uh sure, then just putting that layer over

it does make sense in some ways. But like there are certain things like like the fight with with with the end of the Sniper Guy right, like as a PS two game, so it took place this big map, but is three separate loading areas for that to work? Like, are they going to be able to like change that at least, like like there must be some things there's going to change. Where's the line going to be? I?

Yeah, I don't know. I also feel like I have gross feelings I think about them you doing this game without Like I understand that Konami owns smell of gear solid, but like it feels gross that they're making this game a little bit to me. I don't know. We'll see, but Revolver also does do cool spinny gun shit in this game. That part is pretty good, you know. I'm looking at the strump like, yeah, this looks good. And man, a Snake Eater is one of the best games

ever, so there's no reason why this shouldn't be good. But I still am just like I am skeptical for some reason. All right, So that does it for our most anticipated games that might come out. That leaves us with a handful of games in the long shot, and I'm good in at one of them. Yeah, who could say for me? This is Metroy Prime four. Metry Prime four is a thing for you, Thank you.

It is a jpeg and that's it, like we've only ever seen and that was a jpeg that got rebooted and they started development jpeg in twenty seventeen, I think, and then they restarted development. I think it was a full five years ago now when they restarted development, so that you know, that's almost enough time to put out a game. Two games, almost enough time to do that, and they haven't put out one yet. That's going to be twice as big. That's my hope. The reason I think this makes

sense is I think it's a game. They announced the switch game, so I think part of them is like, we have to put it out as a switch game can be cross gym, across gin and stuff like that, and I think it's it probably is getting pretty close to being ready, but it's Nintendo, and I think the final point there is like, hey, switch to long game. I get that Metroid does not play for them in

that way. I don't think that doesn't mean it can't do like do something for him, but Metroy just doesn't sell in the way they would want it to, I think. But you know, but it's like as like a one two because what because Mario came out Zelda launched with it, right, and then Mario came out a couple of weeks later. No, it came out a good deal later by the year the end of the year, so it's like six months. Yeah, but this doesn't need to be the launch

game. That's going to be the Mario game. I still think you having a Metro Prime four is a very good thing for your launch lineup. And I think that takes you a lot. Yeah, you know, you know, no, no, no, why why? Why? Why is it a good launch game because people like Metroid and people like Metroid Oh my god, oh just go to the game doesn't sell more than five million copies, it doesn't matter, don't more in two million copies, Michael, it will

sell two million copies, and that's good. Yeah. So I think for Nintendo, the way they would look at it is the last time they did that. Now, to be fair, it was Metroy Prime Hunters. The last time they did that it was the DS, and that was a kind of a little bit of a tough launch for them where it wasn't his power popular right away and Metroy didn't do him any favors when they launched that device. So I think I thought that DS had a good launch the three D

had. The three D had a disastrous launch, but I think the DS had a slow start. No, Nintendo always does. They always have light launches. It's like the Switch did not have a good launch at a good launch year. There was no Metroid launch game in the DS. It came with the demo for Metro Hunters come out there. It was a year later, a year later, year later. Jeezus, okay, so I am

thinking of the demo then launched. I played that demo a lot. Yeah, I played the demo so much that it did feel like the game to me. Yes, I guess My point is like, yeah, not, you know, you need launch games that aren't just the ones that are going to solve twenty million copies, right like, otherwise they would just release Mario and nothing else. You do have to have other marquee things you have.

But that's historically what they do, is my point. I mean, there are other things in that launch window, like an arms or you know, Mario Kart. Obviously that is a very big deal. Well, I guess what are you defined as launched? They launch their clips or things. But yeah, even literally the launch of the system, there are other things than just one big game usually. But yeah, I'm just saying I don't say

there's a big marquee game, but I don't think it's good. I don't think it launches with the system because I just don't think that makes sense for how they see Metrod. But you know, we love Metrod all, we all love metroight, it's phenomenal series. Nintendo doesn't give a flying fuck about Metrod at all whatsoever, and so I think they but they know that they are aware that They're like, yeah, whatever, it's this little thing, and so I do think they're going to maximize it, which is why I'm

like, it doesn't have it to do anything with the switch to. And obviously this is just speculation, But when it is speculation, I think you need to look at patterns, and the pattern is that they would release this on the switch one and then maybe there's an up day later, because we

all know how they're handling switch games on switch to. But we already have a relatively recent example of this with Sam's Returns three DS game in the launch year of the switch I just I don't see them changing their plans, which, as we know, is what we know right now is this is a switch one game. We don't know anything. To the contrary, I just don't see them deviating and adding more work if necessary to get run. The

difference there is if it's not ready. If it's not ready and it's like it's going to take a full other year of development, then I think they would probably be like, okay, let's put I mean, I know with Sam's Returns that they put it on the three DS despite the switch being right there. But I think they also learned some lessons from those games where like those games, the games in that window, and that's why I'm out about

the patterns. But ultimately this is one this game Devil's Advocate. We don't know how this game releases. This game could be vapor aware, but you know, just we is such a big question mark of what the switch to is going to be and how they handle backwards compatibility. So I don't know,

We'll say, I guess I will see. Metro four is kind of being like the Red Steel, Right, They're gonna one have one game that's like, yeah, look, also our system is pretty or the Metroid Prime three even right, because metroy Prime three did launch and it's not pure launch. It was launch window on the seven. Yeah, so liked it was it was like or was it eight? Yeah, it was like a year

or two later it was a decent amount later, it wasn't. From that perspective though, Mike, wouldn't you then put out I think Sean is convinced me because wouldn't you even put out, uh, the Metroid Prime two remaster and have that be as shiny and glossy as possible? No, because you could have put that much into the metroc Prime. Yeah, Metro Prime three are probably gonna be a little bit less glossy Prime one. From the little we've heard about that run, it's gonna be a lot simpler than it came

out like a year later. It was like August two thousand and seven. Yeah, Metroprimeter. So I don't run. I mean, honestly, it's not even necessarily about it being a launcht or not for to switch. It is just but I do think it's a switch to game. That's it. Thanks, And things could just work out that way for sure, but maybe maybe still switch this year. I listen, that was their big game this

holiday. I think that makes a ton of sense. I actually think that makes the most sense more than having it be a switch to launch game, which I know that's the main point you disagree round, Yeah, all right, we're crossing that one off Final Fantasy nine remake. Do you think there's a chance that comes out this year? Probably not, Probably not a long shot, very charity do a Final Fantasy this year, something that's never stopped

him before, and we're getting an expanse for fourteen. Yeah, lots of Final Fantasies already, but you know there's I guess the the reason I have some hope is because Yoship, when talking about Dontreu and all the Fantasy nine reps, is being like, there's a reason for that that I can't say, and I think maybe that's being overblown. The reason could just be because of some plot point in that expansion, but maybe it's because the fan Fantasy

nine remake is much sooner than we're expecting. Who knows? And then, what does that look like to you? Final Fantasy nine remake? How ambitious I think it's about. I think it's probably more like what I am expecting for say, Mettle Gear Solid Delta. I think it is more than graphical

update with some nice quality of life stuff and hopefully some things expanded. One of the problems with nine is that a lot of the kind of party members' plot lines get really diminished and they don't have a whole lot to do, as the last half or even third of the game really just becomes super zedane focused. So that would be nice, But I don't think it's not gonna be like remake or seven remake right where it's like a different combat engine.

They took like the first city of the game, it turned that into a game all its own. No, it won't be like that. This will be one. It'll be like Crisis Core. It'll be like that Crisis Core. Be more than that. It'll be a lot more than that it was. How would it be more that Christis Carey make is just like everything all the graphic assets are swapped out. It'll be that's more like Persona three reload where they actually add stuff and even then, like, yeah, they updated

the graphics. Game, it's not like they made it look like PHAs seven rebirth right. They made it a game that's gonna run the switch sus glows. It was pretty close to remake. Its pretty good. Yeah, like literally uses some models and stuff. Facy nine remake will run on Switch one. How about that? Yeah, I mean that switch to exclusive. He's saying it title launch title, I've got to you, guys are not ready for the glitting. I'm gonna we will never be able to prepare myself for

that. All right? And then finally someone wrote down here Ridge Racer. Yeah, I mean, I know used to not have any hope for this, But Jeff, you've been doing You've been talking about this so much and been doing so much research into what's going on with the future of Ridge Racer. Maybe you could tell us right now if we should bump this up to game that might be coming out instead of anticipated long Shot. I think long Shot is the right category four. And that's the reason one of the reasons

I'm so tired. Clearly, I'm in a parking garages meeting with sources, a lot of deep throats who are out there finding out about Ridge Racer farming. Don't you worry about about that? The Ridge Racer deep throats are very informative. Listen, when I have something to say, you will be the first to know. Okay, I appreciate that. Yeah, of course, all right, anything else any games that we forgot? Chat you want to

throw anything else out while we start wrapping up. But I guess then overall, like, how are y'all feeling about the end of the year because right with this list, I'm like, that's decent. That's enough for me. Yeah, it should be fine. The first part of this year has been so crazy already legitimately and actually that like I feel like it'll whatever comes out like that Eldering DLC. We didn't even talk about that. Yeah, which

Vengeance. Yeah, there's still there's still so much stuff. I think it will continue to be a good year for video games coming out but not getting made, you know. Yea and Chronicles is happening. Sure, that's creed read probably this fall. I think it's one of those financial quarter things, so it might be early twenty five. Also not sure. Sure, I don't know what to expect from Home World three. I wonder they're like going to come back and like it's going to be like great or if it's like

a disappointment, doesn't hit like it used to. I don't know. Yep, it could go either way for me. I really don't know as well. And then of course it's a dragon Ball sparking zero. It's all anyone's talking about. Time for another Mario party, nah, probably in a world where they released four of them for the GameCube over of course of yeah, but we're not in that anymore, not in that world anymore. We're in the world where they were released one game per franchise. But then they did

they had the retro throwback one, which I forgot about. Yeah, the Switch is such a long lifespan that theorecically they could, yeah, just pop one of those out later in the year. That probably won't be as good as Superstars, all right, I think with that in mind, it's time to wrap this up. I can probably hit that button. But hey, any plants for the weekend? Anyone have anything fun happening now? Yes, that I had to begin the show, we ignored you. Then well,

I'm moving, so not fun in the weekend. But I am moving. Oh where are you moving? My address? Can you give us your security security numbers numbers here? Nine? Eight? Yeah, No, I am moving. So that's that's exciting? Or is it because I hate moving? I had owned an anything amped to be moving dreading the move. I haven't seen the totality of the things that I own since November of twenty twenty two, so like because it's just been in a storage cube that is going to

get dropped off at my new place. So I'm like, I just ken't p're moving to Ohio with us? Fine, I know, I'm really yeah, I'm excited to be in the path of totality. That's gonna be sure that Hello. All right, well you all keep living in your own path of totality. We're gonna get out of here. More giant bomb stuff on the website, on YouTube, we'll have plenty of stuff next week. Look out for them. Until then, they'll everyone have a good one, take care of yourself. Goodbye to Japan. The Pertectant