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834: REVENGEANCE

Apr 05, 20241 hr 6 min
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Grubb, Mike, Shawn and Niki talk about their time in Dragon's Dogma 2, Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth, and Content Warning! Afterwards, they do a console "fantasy draft" to craft the best "team" of PS1 games!

Vote for your favorite of the 4 drafted consoles here: https://twitter.com/JeffGrubb/status/1776340289818431532

Transcript

Hey everybody, it's Friday. Time for another Giant BombCast, re Vengeance. I'm your host this week. Jeff Grubb, Janachoa, and Dan Reichert are in Philadelphia for WrestleMania. Jeff Backlar is almost certainly in a meeting. That means I am here with Mike. But Nati, you do like me. Yeah, it's Friday snowing, though it's messed up, but oh well, it's just snowing. I have not looked outside in a few hours because of work, so it's just by you, wonderful stone, by me snowing here.

Anyways, it's like real, like hal ish snow. I thought I was going to accumulate or anything, but it's just a it's upsciting to still see the the snow particles in the air. I don't like that. I get excited about about April snow, but I don't want it to stick around. I just like the idea of it snowing for a little bit and then going right away. Sean Turbo, Sean McDowell, how do you feel about

snow? I like snow for the first snowfall, you know, in December when you waw a white Christmas and earthing after that, I don't want it. I want it gone once it starts turned into slush and everything that's bad. Snow we got like patches of the like the dirty snow from the snowplows and everything. That's just that's rody, dude, NICKI, if it was snowing where you were at and you were already wearing shorts, would you go outside in shorts to get the mail or would you put on pants before going

out on a snowy day? I it really is dependent on how long I'm outside for so like to get the mail, for sure, Like I'll go out in short snow, big deal. I run hot, so it's fine. But if I need to walk Barley, then I'm putting a longer pant right on for sure. Of course. Follow up question, does Nicky know what snow is? I? Yes, it's like that soap stuff that they shoot out on Main Street. Yeah, Snope Snope who died? Yeah?

What a great character that guy was. Snope man accomplished exactly what they wanted him to do. Yeah, and an iconic uh, and then got really mad when he just died because he was so interesting. They had so much to say with that character all right, Yeah, welcome to Podcast Revengeance. We're gonna talk about some games that we've been playing, catching up on that, and then in the second half, we're gonna do a fun little thing where we are going going to do a console draft for the PS one.

We are each of us are going to take turns. Do we do snake style if it's if it's four of us, probably snake style, right, probably style problem. So we're gonna do ride the Snake. Man, Let's go ride the snake as we each pick five PM one games, and then the audience the live chat here will vote on which who they think picked the five best games or the console you would most want to play. It could be a lot of fun. We'll get to that here in a second.

For now, you know what I think, I hit this button. You guys hear that. No, we hear, but don't hear it. It's all good, h what you've been playing. Let's start with you, Sean, You got any games you want to talk about? I mean, on a personal note, like didn't play much. It's only been a couple of days since I talked about this release. I will reiterate what I talked about

on the BombCast. I did mention on dump Truck of all places that me and my buddies played Call of Duty the other night because in war Zone they brought back the mode that we like that has the mode is always there, that has respawning in wars right, resurgence. That's a lot of fun. But they brought back the old map that we used to play from what is

this complicated situation? Now? Modern Warfare twenty nineteen is the one. Yeah, the first war Zone was based off of that's war Zone, right, and before that it was what was like Blackthorn, No, yeah it was. It was a blackout in black Ops four right. Then Modern Warfare had war Zone and then that plays upgraded to war Zone two point zero. Think Modern Warfare three. It's a whole mess. But they brought back the good

map and so we hopped in there. We like doing that one because because it is lower stakes, which I know, Jeff, you like in Bottle Royal, So what's high stakes? And you have to like constantly, you know, I like all flavors of Battle Royale. My favorite is the higher stakes one, exactly. Sure. Yeah, we like it because it's a smaller map and that way it also discourages sniping because you like to be clear.

That's when I played those games solo too. I like to play PUBG solo with the high stakes I'm playing with the crew, You're right, having lower stakes, having people be able to jump back in and have fun, that's more important. So we're being kind of the opsics. So I know Pubgy is kind of the odd one out, but most of them you can't revive. So I thought you might have liked that more when like someone can

revive you in certain circumstance. This is yeah, sure, But I think when I'm playing, like most crews, you're like, we're here to hang out and someone's like on the sideline. That's fun sometimes, but most of the time, everyone just wants to be playing. So that's that's where I

lean when I'm playing with the crew. Yeah, And so that's why we like Resurgence is because that way we'd hang out and if someone does get picked off randomly, it's like, okay, you know, hit hit the deck like fine cover and then the twenty second timer starts and then we just get that person right back. And so I think that's a fun combination of the battle rayal formula with stuff like, you know, like search and destroy,

that kind of elimination mode from standard Call of Duty multiplayers. So yeah, that's that's a lot of fun. Though. We got the old map back that we really like because we spent hundreds of hours on that map reburdone, So you know, I was. I was on the ex cast earlier this

week. I was talking to Paris who had h I think he did a preview for this, and so he had kind of jumped in on a lot of these things, and we know Snowbike Mike big fan of that stuff, and so I was kind of getting a little excited maybe to try it out again. I'm definitely someone who spent a lot of time with Call of Duty. Is it gonna be welcoming to be coming back in any real way? Or is it just like that Call of Duty's Call of Duty you mean like

war zone or multi war zone specific es war zone specific? Yeah, I mean the Rebirth Island thing I think was just for like a day or two and now it's just in their rotation with the other maps, So I don't know. I think it's I think it could still be fun to go back to, whether you want to do it on your own or like if we'd want to do something that bring back Oops, all Nicky's maybe at home,

so Nicky, yeah, are there are there? Like? So, my favorite thing about Fortnite OG when they brought the season one map back was that, like there were so many mechanical differences in the way that they gave felt like because I would I would describe Fortnite when it first came out as feeling like shit, like complete pass because it was like it wasn't built to be

the game that it was. And then over the course of the life the game, they have tuned it to be a good feeling third person shooter first, like before everything else. Mechanically, are there any big differences that you are identifying, like the stuff that because it's Modern war for three now as opposed to Modern Warfare, Oh, I guess Modern war Fare three two as

opposed to Model war for one two, Like does it feel different? So war Zone two point zero, broadly speaking, mechanically feels like a combination of m W two, the rem m W two and MW three's it like combines the best of both worlds. They just did a major updates, so it really feels like MW three now and you know we played m W three, you played that multiplayer for a while and everything, and that it just feels good, like they just kind of solve the formula. I think that's that's

the for a while. And even when I was working on Black Ops three, like one of my problems with it was that like it didn't feel like Call of Duty anymore. Yeah, and like like time to Kill, like basic stuff like time to Kill felt off. The way that you ran felt off, and like I fell off of it, yes, because I was working on it and didn't The last thing I wanted to do was look at a Call of Duty game. But like, mechanically, it just didn't feel

good anymore to me. But when we did play Marwa for three at the end of last year, I was like, oh, yeah, this shit fucking hits like it feels good. So I would like to I would like to hop back in there. So what Sorry really quick? Someone in chat asked if that Halo Infinite Batterle Yale is coming. I think that's canceled,

right, Yeah, it sounds like it's canceled. Yeah. The last little bit of news we got on that from people who I've talked about it before, have said that it sounds like it has been fully canceled, which is, you know, makes some sense because they got they have a Halo Infinite. They're they're running that. They're trying to kind of improve that, and they're having some success there. Having a wholly separate Halo free to play multiplayer

thing that you have to maintain is a lot of work. So gain that game, Like even the single player, it's like, oh, it's an open world, it's grapping hooks fun, just like making this into some kind of battle royale, and I get like, at that time, I know it was like incredibly pass and everybody's like, oh, you're gonna add a Battle Royale though too, but I think it would have been really fun.

I'm still so fucked up. I fucking love Halo Infinite. I think, sorry people might, I think it's my second, my third favorite Halo game. I think it's Halo two Breach and then Infinite for me. But he's

got a good taste. It's so fucked because I have these big memories of playing that game for review and coming across these like big brute like they very clearly are dungeons, Like at some point in the design doc they're They were like, we're going to have like lost sectors like in Destiny, and we're gonna put those in like and there are like six of them around the map and it's like very clearly like this is a door and this is gonna open

up and you're gonna go inside of it. And I was like so fucking amped, and then nobody bought the game, so it never it's never gonna come. But like, there are so many good ideas in that video game. It sucks that it like came out the way it did and like such

a bummer. It's it's it seems clear that if Forge would have been there at launch, it would have been much different situations, so much very interesting right now, even the way it came out, like I get it, like you can go die, being like there's no you know, no split screen, no co op, no the Forge, And I was like, yeah, but what I'm playing is a lot of fun for sure. I don't know, Yeah, a little weird, not weirds, as long as

the weird of me. How it's like people are like that's like one like this, like Gigantic Disaster, a game that I thought was Finn's still get it era bother than that, still just playing teching with friends. Eddie Gordal just came out and so my buddy, if I did Eddy mixes your ship dude, that's why. Yeah. And so it was interesting me playing Ozu Saya and Hilm playing uh Eddie because they both have a lot of like, uh, mix up game potential, and so I have a tendency alternate between

highs and lows. Eddie does that very well to like, because people that mix up is that's the one where you go or is this cross up when you go over the top and you likenes what's a mix up? Literally the actual term mix up, like mixing someone up like keeping Yeah, a lot of times like if they trying to make them think they need to block high and they need to block low. Specific yea so base based on the given game, tricking them into thinking you're doing one thing when you do the other,

gotcha. So yeah, like Mike said, with technodes is usually high or low guessing, Yeah, but still fun. I yeah, Yeah, That's the thing I was probably gonna talk about is uh, you know, since a BombCast I did beat the techn eight story mode and had a really good time. I think the highlight for me was when we got to that section where as you usea is like I am teaming up with the corporations to

sell coffee. And I liked it because it was dumb, and I liked it even more because I was like imagining how mad it would make Mike, how much he hates this character, and I'm like, that makes it better for me. So just all that stuff to get and the whole game has that energy, and it is very dumb, and I think you kind of have to get on its wavelength a little bit with that stuff. But I was and especially for like a stream where we know it's going to be stupid,

That's why we could went back to it after so many weeks. It's like, we know this is going to be big, dumb fun and it was exactly that. So I really enjoyed myself. It's a game that is, like we said so many times, has the juice looks so good, the particle effects, and they really go with it in those last final fights as well. They like amp that stuff even higher. And then all the characters have are pretty cool move sets, pretty cool to jump between who who

you play as. I do now have a desire now to go to the Arcade Quest mode. Is that what that is? Arcade Quest? Yeah, you know it is. It's like the true tutorial of the game. So, yeah, you know how Street Fire Sex had a world Tour and it was like a Shen Moose style mode that tried to teach you the game. They did a similar thing in Tech and Aid, But I would say it's even more of a tutorial because it's smaller in scope. It's also more fun. I don't know, I thought that the World tor mode was like kind

of talking and had a lot of filler for what it was. Arcade Quest is pretty fast paced and it is generally just hey, you get to fight a lot of people and you get to pick your character in that. As the story mode, we have to play as what the story wants you to for the most part, and usually that is gin And like you know, when when we're saying it's like a tutorial, and it is, it's not like tutorial mode in a Fighting Moore. It's like like like push these buttons,

I push these plans, I'll go the next totorial. They're just kind of sprinkling in that info as you're playing along. Yeah, it has a literal tutory tutorial, but it's broken up over you know, you'll go to this arcade and that's what's arcade quest. You'll learn how to do these things and then you'll fight a few people using what you just learned. Now, like have it on screen. Hey, this is what you're learning right now.

Keep in mind, do these things to try to get better at them, and it just progresses you that way, and you can play Jack eight Son play. Yeah, like I know, I know Mike's cool. On World Tour, remode that it did pretty decently well with the casuals because they are like, yeah, I'll make my dumb oc run around, I'll meet chun Ley and Reu and like have a wacky time in metro City. But I do think this will strike a better balance between people like us and the

casuals where we can both find something to enjoy here. And that's why I like the approach a lot better. And it's just one more thing, one more cherry on the top of tech and a which is just a phenomenal video game package. Yeah, it really did it hit hard. He did exactly what was supposed to. I think I'm very happy whoere fighting games are at right now, Nikki, you've been playing anything I have, y'all hear to

track his Dogma two game just came out. That game is fun. It is so much crunchier then I think I expected, and also much much cunchier

than like I usually like from my games. Oh, I like it when things are kind of simple, like and I think it is like so thoroughly a like I've talked about this on this show before, but like, I really need a game to respect my time because if I'm going to like commit to it, I need to feel like I am getting something out of it, and I will, like I used to be very bad at this, but I will bounce off of a game so fast. I have no qualms or quandaries about being like, ah, not for me or like not for

me right now. Right In Dragon's Dogma two, I picked the Magic class initially and it was like, Wow, this feels like shit because all all you do is you stand and press X. And I was like, I don't like this. I don't think this feels very good. And I was like, I was like, oh, okay, I'll try the Thief class. And immediately I was like, oh, this is the video game. This is the fucking video game. I get to climb on top of guys

and pick anybody up and cut them to death. I got a move where I like do a fucking like I do like seventeen flips in the air with my knives, like like over my head, and I just like cut into a guy as I fall down, which is super sick. Yesterday I was fighting an ogre and everyone on my team is a woman, and everyone was like, hey, it seems like this ogre hates women. Whoa Oh my gosh, is that is that over part of Detective? And everyone was like,

I don't really know what the plan is. And then a different pawd walked by and I was like a dude pond and I was like, all right, peace out one of these ladies. I need someone, I need bait, I think, like, so I fired her Women's sake, So

I fired her and then I hired this dude. And then the dude was like was was like able to like to kite the guy, to kite the ogre basically, and we were able to take it out and that was so nice, Like it was such like a it was it was such a good moment to be like, oh, how do I how am I using the systems in the game to modify this fight actively? It felt like it felt big brain, but in a way that was very considered, like it was like, you know, like it I don't know, it felt really nice.

And then as soon as I beat the ogre, I turned around, then fell off a cliff and then fell into the water, and then everyone else was like, hey, what's down there? And then they also they also out to both sides, right there's it's really clever and considered, and then it's dumb as hell, And I I like both sides of that coin. So I've been playing Dragons Dogma two. Yeah, and I'm I'm like, I'm I'm maybe coming to terms of like, I don't know if I love this game. I want to. It's fun, and I think that

like the moments that can happen are great. I think the combat's good. I think that quest structure maybe just like structure overall, is pretty abysmal. Yes, like because it's trying to like it's it's a game that probably should be structured more like a Breath of the Wild. And again, it seems to be structured more like a Skyrim was like we're gonna give you quests.

Sometimes the question like like go sneak into like this like prison and like free this person and the guards, and I'm like, but there's no stuff system right, so I don't know I might be missing something there. But all that happened was like I go down there, they start attacking me, and then if I fight the guards, like the whole city. Do you want to into me? Now? It's like, I do you want to know what it is? Do you know what? Do you want to know what

it is? You have to dress up. You have to dress up like a guard. Okay, there's a there's a box outside that has the stuff, has the outfit that the guy that's like, welcome to prison. Okay, okay, this is confusing odda. As I've said on the BombCast, I have many issues with this game. Those was those were one of them. I remembered. I forgot to mention that was, like why is everyone

attacking me while I'm down here. It's like the dude at the top says, oh, hey, you have been given permission to answer right hand yea. And the guy gives you the question says, I have like made it so you permission to go down there. Yeah, so I went down there

and everyone starts to attack me, like excuse me. I thought I had permission, So it was just, yeah, I think there's such a thing as too little sign posting, I think, and that's the quest structure specifically, is one of those things like a game that was more like, hey, like you like, here's a little intro, and then you know you're in this world and there's eight things across the map that you need to do to beat the game, and maybe it's like eight titans or eight things you

need to fight. I don't know, maybe that structre would have worked with because the question, the question of this game are its weak point by far? Yeah? Yes, I lost forty five minutes on my second play session because I walked slightly too far away from the guy that I was supposed to be following, and I went all the way to where we were going, but because I was not in the right spot when the quest marker switched over,

it didn't trigger. So I walked for forty five real human minutes and then was like, well, I'm here and the game's not doing anything. And then I was like I don't know where he is. And then I was like I guess I have to walk back. So I walked back and then I found him and he was like, all right, ready to go, and I was like, you motherfucker. I think this game is such a fascinating made for lack of better term case stuff of how people interpret games

where just everyone sees Dragon's Dog with two differently. And I'm a guy who likes something a little more linear, a little more guided, not not you know, not complete that maybe that's a good way of pulling it, but I do like the breath of a wild structure of we will give you a way points and nothing else. I like that, and it just like has the description of exactly what you need to do, just figure out how to do that thing I ain't given moment is telling you this is your objective.

But in here I feel like it's almost a little two hands off. I appreciate what they're going for. I just think they didn't stick the landing in the exp It's a messy game, is what it is. Messy. It's some people like Dan, for example, love the chaos, like you said, and I totally get that, and I'm glad it's there for those people. Yeah, I just couldn't get into it ultimately, and I think they just did themselves a disservice by trying to force some structure of these quests into

that messiness. I think this would have been much better off if it was it's like you described, Mike, just sprinkle some some like overarching quests that you need to do and then let players figure it out on their own. That sounds ideal for the world that they created. But I'm having a really good time with it. Is the first game formatted like this, I think so, but I never play. To my understanding, it is yeah to do it, but the fact that you can pick anybody up is sick.

Oh yeah, yeah, that's a good huh yeah, I do like that's funny. There's a lot of good systems for combat and stuffing do some of that. I think a lot of the systems aren't quite as interesting for things like traversal and some of these kind of more like you know, quest based

things. Or maybe I'm just not being creative for missing it. I definitely am missing out because I don't have like that Jeff or Dan chaotic And the most incredible thing I saw in this game was when Jeff like went and like try to jump on a griffin that was way too high low for him. Then it flew over and he went over the city and he fell and dark

Mitch might top caught them. I'm like, that's great. It's also something I never would have done, because I'm like, like, I would be like, well, I'm not fighting that, I'm too low a level exactly. Yeah, I think that kind of mindset is robbing me of the kind of best parts of this game. Yeah. Just change, yeah, exactly, get a better brain. I think the game the game just does not

It's not malleable really all. I mean, I think Sean, you're right that people see different things when they look at it, but the game itself does not contort to like fit different play styles all that. Well. No, yeah, that's what it is. That's what's so weird to me for a game that is so open ended, is that it does feel like, at the end of the day, you are you got to you gotta play like a jackass. I think, yeah, but you're also like kind of

getting to these set pieces that they've set up. It's not necessarily like physics and chemistry interacting. It's more like we have block A and then block B and like there's a little bit of wackedness between block and Block B, but ultimately it's like a self contained thing that happens. It's it's interesting. Yep. I'm glad that that are there are people who are driving with it,

and I'm not blaming anybody who's not. You know, I see uh you know Jordan Middler, I think he's played like one hundred and eighty hours of The Crazy Get a Job. I want to play more of it because like I still want to see, like what, like what does that game look like after one hundred hours? Is my questions, Like this is soundly very

different than what I'm doing. Uh, I think it's interesting anyways. Yeah, but what I do like the class system or because it is a job system, so I am always kind of like interested in like like if I new jobs that I can carry over some aspects from one job to the other. That has probably driven me more than anything else. And the fact that like when you do come across the psych clops or something, I do think it is a lot of fun to fight them. Ye, this is the

best PlayStation two game I've played this year. Yeah, it definitely has that PlayStation to you game. It looks like a PlayStation two game. No Mike Glory, So Mike, how about you anything you've been playing gosh? I mean the Dragon's Dab. I actually am like going back to FOMP Fantasy seven

Rebirth now and completing some of the other longer quest lines. There's a proto Relic Giant quest line where in each little like open zone there's all the map stuff you can do, but then there's like the big kind of pyquest there,

and they're often the best ones. This is where you find the kind of like clash Clash of Clans like thing and other interesting mini games, and also where they kind of bring back some characters from remake and fun ways, and it all culminates in a really cool moment with a kind of series favorite character that I don't want to spoil here, so trying to do that,

and it's like kind of big stuff. This is also like where a lot of like super hard fights are that you need to complete and I'm not even sure what the reward is going to be when I do all of this. So you know, I did Queen's Blood already and now I'm going back and just playing through this, and man, I like Rebirth a lot. That game is so much fun. That is such a just incredible combat system, just just even kind of like going around and filling out this map. Just

any excuse to play more of it makes me happy. Greg. Did you finish Infinite Well? I did? Yes, really enjoyed it. Did you pay the money? Oh? I used my Steam account to get the levels because I was stuck on the last boss because I couldn't I couldn't leave to go do the level up. Yep, so fucking annoying. Do We talked about this at the pacts, but like, yeah, that fucking wall. Do you like? I? It feels like so so here here listen, if you if you take both of your teams, because it's near the end

of the game, it splits you up. You have you your two teams, one in Japan, one in Hawaii. And if you do the Dungeon Quest the Underground Dungeon Collar section with both of them to its completion. So you go all the way to the end to the special levels, special different levels, and you do all that, you will be leveled high enough to beat this game without any issue. What sucks there is that's fun with one team? Yeah? Do you want to do it? The second time,

the exact same thing. These like just nondescript hallways that are procedurally generated, and they're just it's it's bad, and the combat's still good when you're fighting anybody in this game. I still like the combat. That's great. So I did it. I like not someone who would have done this a lot and a lot of other games, but I did it because I liked the combat, but like the idea of them taking the second team and doing that

exact same thing. When I'm near the end of the game, something I already spent sixty seventy hours in, I didn't want to do that, and I was like, I probably don't need to, I'm probably good good enough,

And I was not. So I got in that final boss fight and I'm, you know, I'm like looking at him like I am either going to have to struggle with this, I'm gonna have to cheat engine or I and I had already used like some level up stuff that I realized I got when I got like the special addition of the game, Like I already used

those, so I'm screwed here. And then I saw I could buy some more, and I use my I basically bought like a twenty dollars pack to just upgrade everything for Cure You, and that that made a big difference. I would I wish this game like in retrospect, like I was so high on it, having such a good time. I wish it was ten hours shorter, like it feels like it and it did. It's really weird. I only feel that now that I've like been away from it from a for

a couple of weeks. I haven't played it in almost a month. Maybe yeah, but like it felt paced well when I was in it. The further away that I'm at, I'm like, why you spend so you go back and forth on like on fool what things turn out to be fools errands like narratively, and I'm like that, I get why you're doing this story wise, but from a I'm playing this video game perspective, it just makes

me it is back to that respectful of time thing. I wasted my time doing this, Like I understand that Cure You and like and and each von like I understand that this arc is important, but like figure out how to write that better. So it's a cut scene that I watch as opposed to making me do ten extra hours of gameplay to put me to put the characters

in the same fucking position that they were in before that sequence. I just fu Yeah, so annoyingly I met the pot where I feel like I just need to watch the rest of that game because I I yeah, and I think that's probably completely fair. Uh, if you're feeling that way at that point, because it's not it's not going to change too much. The and the best parts of the end of the game are not the boss fight itself. It is. It is definitely all of the story, like bo Bo

getting tied around, some great moments, the opposite rebirth. Yeah, yeah, a little bit. Uh. Yeah. The final boss fight is like against the character that you just don't I didn't feel much for, and then I felt much about every other boss next and wasn't it it was like back in Yeah, it's really weird. It was the but but like those those indiing moments are incredibly touching, incredibly well done, so it's worth watching. Yeah, it keeps me going. Yeah, The combats good enough that I

was okay with the pacing for most of it. It does just that final moment I was getting very frustrated and honestly, you know, my privilege. If I had to spend my real money on that stuff, I probably would have just quit it. Yeah. So, getting very close to beating Persona three reload, and like part of me thinks I should start Infinite Wealth, but I think I want to start if if Unicor, is that what that's called overlord? Overlord not overload? Yeah, the Unicorn game probably tried that

first corn overload. I think that's probably yeah. Oh yeah, is Kermit winning kit did survive, although today it is I'm not allowed to eat fish because fish are MEAPs. So when I got out my crackers in tuna tuna salad for lunch today, I was yelled at from my entire lunch every bite. Fish. Fish don't have souls. It's okay, but they don't care about that. They just care about memes, all right? Is either that's

definitely true anyway to your kids next time I see him? Definitely Mikey made me cryds any other games because we'll talk about or should we get to those second segment? Should we talk about the game we just play? Yeah? Do fucking content warning? Well, let's talk about content warning? Say always saper bompcast. But all of us are here and we just play. How

do you feel about content warning? The biggest game, good fucking video game good it is It is so thoroughly like it activates parts of the brain that like Lethal Company, don't right like, and I think and I think something that is so interesting is that it for people who do not stream, I think we have a completely different perception of what playing video games with other people is like, right, because we do it for money on camera for people,

right, Yes, But to translate it's so smart to translate that energy into the gameplay of the thing, to make the player feel like they are creating content in a way that is so on the nose and is like so pointed, is so fucking funny, Like it's just funny. And it also gets across the idea and the feeling of like this shit feels futile sometimes right like it like what are we doing down here? Like why do we have a camera? We're gonna die, Like we're gonna die. This thing is

gonna pick me up and throw me into you crazy? Why are we down here? Was the thing that surprise me. So, so let's let's explain what content warning is. This is it's Lethal Company. Yes, uh, And if you don't know what le Letho company is. Basically, you have three days to go down to a dungeon and accomplish a goal. In this game, the goal is to get views on your on your video that you

upload to u Nikky Spooktube. Thank you upload to that website and and then you That is based on the footage you get yourself from a camera that you physically take down into the underworld. And the goal is it's on the top of your screen says record something spooky or something like that, record something scary, and so you point the camera around and it has limited amount of footage.

So what surprised me is how well that works, because I was like, is it gonna algorithmically take your footage and stitch together the parts where we were the loudest or whatever it like. No, it's just the raw what you recorded and every single time, and it's because you know, it's because it's us and we're having a good time with one another. And so the moment of like just a oh, you recorded for two seconds and someone ran across the screen. That's funny to me still, but overall it worked.

Even it works better than on that level. It's like these are like genuinely funny clips that I was really surprised they worked that well. So the idea of you having to get this camera back, upload this footage, that being the goal. It creates this strong like we did all this work to get that footage. I want to get that camera back. That means a lot to me and that so it like it does build up this like level of stakes, and then the reward is everyone gets to sit down on the couch,

watch the video and laugh because it is really funny. That's just really impressive. That is I think, really it right like my and I didn't even realize it was an issue that I had with Lethal Company. Failure in Lethal Company felt punitive right in a way where it's like that's fine for some people, but for me, in a game that is as silly as Lethal Company is, it didn't feel like the the punishment fit the crime of dying. In this there the stakes are solo if you die, like it doesn't

really make a difference. You pay like eight dollars or whatever when you come back, or zero dollars, like you can't go into negatives, like you pay zero dollars if you don't have any money when you die and like you get Even if you fail and don't bring anything back, you can still go back and pick up the camera, which is really cool. You can still export the video out, which I think is like such a good touch.

I just think it's really smart. It's so smart. It's nice that they can your source of income to move on to the next days is condensed down to one thing. Yes, So in a lethal company, you everyone could be carrying these you know, medium wealth objects and you're like, okay, cool, we're gonna hit quota. Someone dies, well it's gone air screwed in content warning. If someone dies and they were holding the camera but the camera is still accessible, you just be all right, someone distract this guy.

Then we go grab the camera, get the camera out of there, record a little bit more for funzies, and then you know, we'll still get our cash. Yeah, and it does two things, Like, you know, the object of power that you have to recover, it's not like I don't know what he was holding or what it looked like a lethal company whatever. And we have the capacity to pick that up and carry it back

where we might not have had the carry capacity in lethal company. Yeah, just the tools that gives you to like have fun with its own loop. Like it's like, yeah, you're making videos, so here's a green screen where you can have different backdrops and yeah, you can buy a boom mic and a clapper and oh yeah, like Jeff, you were holding them mic usually. So I actually don't know if you know how this works. But so first of all, the game has proximity chat like Lethal Company, which

is just it's hilarious every time game use it. When you are using a microphone, your voice becomes clear to us in the in game chat. Whoa, So it's no longer proximity chat. We just like hear you, like we have headphones on or something. Whoa, Okay, that's neat. If you stick the boom mic in from someone, their voice becomes clear. Wow. That god. Proximity chat is a like s tier feature for me these days. So within a game, I'm gonna be way more interested than I

would be otherwise. So just very happy that we're getting multiple games down to that are taking advantage. We've come so far from killing someone in Halo or was it Call of Duty where it would give you a snippet of the person. Is still the audio? Yeah, that does it's still do you know what the trend is right now is uh is if you're an older fella and you get killing the game, you go, ah, you got me, and all the all these young people are like, oh oh no, terrible.

Oh he just came home from work and he got a minute away from his kids. Oh I am a piece of ship for killing this old man. It's great. That's the best. I'm like now whenever I get killed one of these games. Ah, yeah, got me, son? Yeah? All right, you know what that that's a good amount of conversation about video games. We're gonna take a quick break. When we get back. We are going to do our PS one console draft stick around. You're not gonna want to miss it. I'll put it up on Twitter as well.

The results of that so are the Pulse. You can vote there if you want. If you're listening with chat chat chat right now, don't no suggestions. We're going to try to their noggins, and don't don't be spouting out your favorite games, because we have to read your chats to make sure you're all being cool. And we know you're cool, but still be cool. All right, right back after this, All right, let's get right for beaten memories. Jesus Christ. We need to find who's going first, Sean,

do you have a method? Yes? Do you have a document or of some sort of or we will be honest with the document going while you are figuring that out. Yeah, okay, yeah, make sure make sure we see it too. So if you like Discord, beam it to us, it would be great. Yes, let me figure that out. I will make that happen right now. So I hate to say it, but the order will be Mike, then Jeff, then Me, then Nicki, and we're gonna do and we're gonna do a snake order, so NICKI will

pick twice and then we'll go back our way and so on. So if anyone doesn't know what we're doing here, doesn't quite understand the concept because it's, you know, we're basically ripping out fantasy sports. What we're gonna do is we're gonna go down the line and we're gonna pick today the theme is PS one. We're gonna pick a PS one game. Expersson picks a PS one game where he's gonna end up picking five. You, the audience, need to pick who has the best imaginary PS one You can only play the

one you want to play the PS one games. Yeah, so which of these imaginary consoles that we are creating here is the one that you most want to play? And the reason we're doing this we're in the PS one right now. We're all kind of like, I'm at least I'm going to kick the PS one, I know, Mike Gaze, Yeah yeah, And I

think it's a fun way to sort of remember these games. It's also fun to like sort of do this thing where like what matters to a voting audience because it is it like just name recognition or is it the best games or the most eclectic mix and trying to figure it out what that is. I don't know. There something fun about this, So I really enjoy it because like my favorite game is a PS one game, Mega Man Legends, And I know people wouldn't pick a console based on that because Megan Man Legends.

Yeah. Yeah, Well I was gonna say something I forget now, so don't worry about it. Well, just a little bit, like the poll is going to be in a like the Giant Bob website chat, so you know the describers in that chet. So if you're on Twitch and everything you can to hang tight for the results there. Yeah, all right, I'm sure you can. I make it so, okay, you're recording my voice. There go, you all are back, and now I will bring it

up for the chat. I wonder if it might be it might have been a benefit to be foro it to get the Snake, Like I could say the Snake is huge here, I think because like a lot of like I'm gonna get I'm obviously gonna get a really big game, but then a lot of the other heavy hitters are going to go before. That's a good point because there's like there are I think there's about there are two three games on PlayStation one that all could be like number one, right, like you're kind

of you're kind of taking a chance. Definitely, I will get like I said, I will get this up on the screen right now. But Mike, if you want to get started and feel free, Yeah, Metal Gear Solid the number one, Okay, yeah that is yeah, yeah, all time all time Classics. I played that game for the first time. Was it two years ago? I think like in Fall, you know, I had played bits and pieces in Passing, but it was a little you know, it's an em erated game when I was a kid, so I didn't

play it anywhere near when I came out. That game just has an aged goddamn day like you know, wobbly PS one graphics and everything, but otherwise that constrained presentation. That's what everything to me. Yeah, that's why I got them glasses Darby all right, Yes, it's me all right. So Mike picked Metal Gear Solid. God, I wish I could have picked Metal Gear Solid. I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Final Fantasy I think, yeah,

yeah, I think you know what. I was like worried because I'm like, oh, the new one, maybe that like D two, defends this one a little bit. But actually just seeing the words Final Fantasy seven, I bet it's gonna do a lot for people. All Right, well, I I gotta do. I think probably the last of the big big three Castlevania Symphony A Night you fool, you absolute fool. All right,

there we go. Yes, I sean for that one, like you are you worried that it's like that people like, oh that doesn't feel as important as some of these other games, because I would I think I would have picked it there, but I'm like worried that it doesn't have the bizaz for some people. I think it just depends. It depends on the person how important that game is to them. Like, I'm not a Castlevania guy, so like personally I went to be and picked that out myself, but or

Final Fantasy seven. But I know how important that is to a lot of people. So I think that, like again, rounds out sort of the trilogy of the big PS one games makes sense. Uh, Nikki, you have to Tony Hawk per Skater too. Yeah, that's good. Nice thick your Yu Gil game, you coward, you won't I considered it. Listen, the last time I did a the last time I did a comedy pick,

it went so poorly for me. Yeah, I don't know. I'm really deliberating here because you say you don't want to say out loud like the two chat no recommendations in chat I know. Oh yeah, no, I'm not looking at chat. I think I'm going to go with fuck dude, pressures on. I'm gonna go Crash Team Racing, which is probably interesting for the main line one. Yeah, team Racing, Okay, Crash Amazing any Crash Radio that ever, I guess I can't pay Crush because I can't.

It's not like a Crash bandicoot too for car racers. You're my people. Definitely remember CTR more fond right now? Yeah than Crash than Crade. No, No, I'm serious. I'm not playing it at all. I know CTR is very well thought of, but like I like, I don't know, I feel like if you had like the CTR rebake and just the Crash Tew rebake, I don't know, I feel like the Crash to Keeping keep in mind, Mike, keep in mind, this is never about quality. This is about nostalogy. I know, I know, all right, So

I'm gonna inject a little bit of variety here. I'm going Resident Evil to Nah I wanted, Yeah, I know you did. That's why I take it rid of me. They did at least God all right. That does put me in a funky position. But I think actually the smart move here is just to not get derailed by a pick like that. I will just go with Resident Evil one. There you go, maybe in a Resident Evil one. Actually I thought it was like Street Far and they started it too.

Uh. I will get Final Fantasy and nine. It's maybe not quite as popular as seven, but I think it's a lot of people's favorites. All right, Oh, now it stakes back to me. Actually, I've only been thinking about one game this entire time. I wish I was speaking more forward thinking than that. Oh it could be do I Well, okay, okay, I think I do want a platform er. Now the question is which one would I actually want to go for if that is the case or Oh no, calm down, mike. Uh okay, I think I

will go with Spiral two. That was literally that was literally gonna be my pick. God, I think that's the best platform on the PS one. Uh, this is so tough. What do I want to do? That's like a recognizable name, but I don't know how people feel about it. Oh, I'm thinking so many other ones I want now more Instead, it's not a terrible pick. I could no more. Let's see, do I already have that? Do I want to do that? Do it? I'm thinking of another RPG? Yeah? That's like, hmm, you know what,

maybe maybe you guys won't pick that one. Actually there's a chance, okay to me, risk, right, it's a risk. I don't want that one yet, So I think I think I might go with a fighting game. I'm gonna go with taking three, you are a bit of the whole world knows that the three is on the board and I'm taking Spiral. No. Yeah, taken three feels right. That felt It feels good when you guys yell at me immediately, it feels real nice. God damn it.

All right, Well, guess what ship Head Vagrant story? Give it to me. That's kind of take story rules rules so hard, all right, Nikki two for you, it's a See. The thing that is so hard about this is like the games that I had on the PlayStation one. And it's a console, and you could like pick like like ten games and they could be awesome, and they could be the games that people never even think of on the PlayStation, like did anybody play cool Boarders or cool Boarders?

True? Like those games are great to me. Yeah, I think that with my first pick, this is silly, but I hope we can follow. I'm going to pick Namco Museum. Hell yeah, the first volume one volume one baby, yeah, hell yeah, the n and then I think and that volume I think that I think spider Man yeah, very good. Yeah. Wow, I'm going to run to the restroom very fast. Think about your one last game. I need to round out my list a little bit more, I think, and I think the next one to go

with. There's a couple of ways this could go, but I think the one that will get the most appeal Grant Trismo to sh Yes, yeah, yeah, Grant does have its fans for sure. Yeah, the system it's yeah, but I know today like yeah, yeah. That's why I picked it later because I'm like, the nostalgia isn't quite there because the sim racer. But I think it's a solid entry that'll get some people in. So

I will go with Twisted Metal too. Okay, Okay, I think that's I think that's the name that will like splash for enough people that they'll be like, this looks like a strong list because of that, all right, I'm gonna get another. There's a couple of jeres I could take. There's one that I think is more acclaimed and one I think is more popular. So I'm gonna go with the more popular one. Someone Yeah, I took the second one very upset. That's good because the best one is the third

one. I take the two games. Now, Okay, what show the Jereviches do I want? I'm not gonna get two jerrypgs Now we gonna get Jeipye something else A few on there. Oh, I can't. I don't think I want to Final Fantasy games. I think it's not I think that looks a little bland. So I think I'm gonna go Zeno Gears. I hadn't even considered zero Gears. That's a good I'll still talk about singers all the time. That's that's like a vagrant story kind of thing where if you

know, you know, and that's good. Yeah. I was gonna go for you know, I can't get Grid with too. I'll just get the actual better race of game, hopefully everybody else people are getting. I'll get Rid Racer Type four. I got it. Yeah, I knew we would end up there eventually. I said, this is a really good list. I think, really strong list, very strong. Yeah, shoot god, it feels like nothing is a great fit. But and I yeah, maybe I don't want two Final Fantasies either, So does anyone care about that?

I feel like, had it not gotten re released, I think that would have been better then. But you know what, I wanted to go with something funky, I think for the last pick, so I think I will go with mister Domino. Yeah, mister Mosquito. Actually no, I'm gonna go with Solid Solid. I think that's again a name that I think is like got some appeal when you just let glance out like that, that makes things up, all right, you're gonna go for the fame. Yeah,

I want. I wanted, Okay, so I wanted to diverse file a little here. I didn't want to double up, but I'm doubling up on a genre here technically, although they're very different. Uh foul Fancy Tactics. Yeah, that's that's the one I was thinking about for very too good to ignore. It's very good, and I I just it's like a too fond fancy on my list might look weird, but with only five games, Yeah,

I agree. Yeah, I would have liked a platform there in hindsight, if you know, I didn't realize you guys weren't gonna take it. So maybe we'll put like a platform in stuff vagrant story. But you know, I'm still I'm still happy with it, I guess. Yeah. I was close to picking final Fantasy Tactics since like pick three for sure, uh, nikky, last one, my last freaking pick. Let me get the poll ready, I want to take you for I can't believe no one's picked

Legend Legend of Dragoon. Yeah, what a shock. No one said Digimond World three either. Hm hmm, man, this is it. You can you can talk it out now, you don't worry about it. Yeah, that's so big ray Man though. You know, people love that guy. I love on the PlayStation one, and then I played it on the Game Boy Advance and was like, I think this is the same game. That's because it was the same game that had me fucked up because I spent money

on it not knowing that it was the same game. I'm trying to decide if I want another sports title like Hotshots Golf means a lot to me. That game is really fucking good. When the ball goes in the lake, the guy goes swimming in the lake, and in my head, forever Medieval would be funny here. That was a big game at the time. You know what's funny. It was like one of the best selling Placetation one games that none of us would put on. Is that Frogger remake? That game

I had that it was everyone had that game. It was the Giant Cellar. For some reason, I think because at one point it was like five and the Frogger brand was actually surprisingly powerful. Then for some reason, still a lot of power behind the Frogger bran. It was weird. It was a different time. Oh man, this is hard y'all got, Nikki what you got? Yeah? I know the magic clock is starting an NFL Blitz. Hell yeah, you get to play NFL Blitz. You know that's kind

of by logical. Tony Oks pro Skater to Crash Team racing NFL Blitz. I got Solid, man. I wish I was upset when you picked Tony Oks pros Skater too, because that was going to be my next pick. All right, Uh, everyone's going to read their own list for audio listeners, starting now with Mike, and again you're gonna hear this and you can only pick one of these systems and you're gonna play these games. So Mike,

why don't you go ahead and read your list. On the Mike's station, You've got Metal Gear Solid Final Fantasy nine, Spiro two, Ripto's Revenge, Zeno Gears, and ridg Racer Type four On the PS, jeffs It's Final Fantasy seven, Resident Evil Tech In three, Twisted Metal two and PaRappa the Rapper on the The Pocket Show, and I'm going obscurely. We got the Castle Vania Symphony, A Night, Resident Evil two, Vagrant Story,

Grant Turismo two and Final Fantasy Tactics games. And on my console called the End Gage, which is the first time any thing's ever been called that. I've gotten Tony Hawks, fre A Skater to Crash Team Racing, Namco Museum Volume one, Spider Man, and the NFL Blitz. I think no matter who wins, we can all agree Mike's console is the boomer console, right, I mean, yeah, oh yeah. So I ran a poll. People are saying it kind of went too fast. I should give Hi more

of a warning. So I'm going to start a new poll right now everybody, so be sure you go in there and vote. Starting now. It's going to go fast thirty seconds to I think, here, well, what's going on? Do you guys have anyones that you were like thinking about that didn't make it? Because I had. While we were doing the intro, I was like just jotting down games real quick so I wouldn't forget. And there's like there's Chrono Cross, There's was on there for me. Yeah.

Sweek it in was like the other jerrygos Baby thinking into the parent parasite Eve is very was one mega man X four I was considering there. Talk about Dino crisis a lot these days. I don't know how much they actually like Dino Crisis. No, No, it's not super popular. No, it's just it's more of a small contingency there. But there was escape. Escape would have begright results though. You build up here, Yeah, go juicy results. Go we go maybe last to first or something like that. Yeah,

yeah, we got a lot. Look, we got a lot riding on this. Everybody's very anxious. I don't mean to drag it out. We should all just sit here and think about what's going to mean to us if we fucking lose. It's going to ruin the whole weekend off and last place. In fourth place with fifteen votes, it is the Nikky Station. Let's go Costole. You know it's going to go down in history as a as a fan favorite. Yea. In third place with eighteen votes, it's

the grub Station Group Station. Where do you think maybe you fall? Because it looks like a pretty good list. Where do you think maybe you faltered? I think I think you, Picky Medle, Your solid kind of made me like I want to go Final Fantasy seven. I actually don't know how hard Final Fantasy seven hits on a list like this because you are surrounded by all these I know it hits, but I don't know if it's like if it hits number one as hard as it could have, and then I had

to wait like the loop all the way around. I don't know. I feel like I was in like one of the weakest positions there a little. Do you think maybe because Resident Evil right after Resuble two is a little uh yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, after Resival two, like I was like hoping to God that Rezuvle two would fall to me, and when that didn't happen, that didn't go well either. So yeah, I think it's like in that those first couple of picks. I think my last three picks

were pretty strong. I think it's the first two don't actually fit very well. I think maybe PaRappa only gets you so far these days. I think I see Twisted mel two only gets you so far as well. That's that's messed up that that's the case, But that might be true. Huh yeah, I mean, yeah, for sure, I would have picked Grand Trismo two as well. So yeah, ad vote with that at least right yes, in second place with twenty four votes, it's the mic station. Mike,

well done. Where do you think you maybe uh list out on an opportunity to get first place? Yeah, Mike, I think if I to Biro two, I think that that would been a great time to take Tech and three ork rent Chrisma two. I thought, uh yeah, yeah, I think missing on grind Trisma two and take A three, it says Spiral, that may have pushed me over the top. Who knows, though, maybe it's just that I just couldn't overcome first places. Absolutely incredible roster.

Speaking of first place with a commanding lead of thirty nine votes, that the turbo Sean station, Sean Jan says, and chat the congrats to the play station Sean. You know, I didn't want to go over the obvious one, but as they were going with the PlayStation incredible, credible, Sean, it's like PlayStation station, I say, Sean, I almost thought that, like simply in a night was like a week first round pick, just because I was like, yeah, of course I love that. I don't know

how far that reaches and he was clearly right. He's clearly right. Yes, I look at the list now, his list kind of you really nailed it. I knew it was over when I got Castlevania and Ari too. I was like, Okay, now I can just fill it out with other like niche ish things that people want. I was worried about Vagrant Story because I was like, that's a bit of a pull. But also it's, as I always try to tell you guys, you need like the one niche

thing that really pulls in the audience that want to vote. Otherwise, I definitely wanted R E two for my second pick. It's a strong are you saying that? Like maybe the voting block was not as amped about Namco Museum volume? But uh yeah, once again, I have proven that, as I try to tell these guys all the time on our podcast we do, I am just so much better at this than you guys, know what people want? Great? All right, well we're going to do this again to

put him back at his place. Okay, before we get out of here, I have received a request, could you guys just vamp for me for a second video primed from from any front of the site. I thought Vagrant Story may have been like slightly obscurist you, but you're right, that's like the kind of pool what want. It's a very late square Enix PS one joint that is very It's it's an RPG, but it has very interesting mechanics as a very distinct kind of dark Gothic medieval aesthetic. It is gorgeous.

It's it's a lot of people who did tactics and then would do fom Fantasy twelve. Are they bugs? I don't think there's bugs and vagrant story. Oh they have a hair? Do you have a ten eye hair? I mean, why is the ugie's hair like that in the Greatest game on PS one forbid? Because he's old. You's old? Yeah, from old Egypt. Egypt. Oh that's that's all yummy. Yeah yeah, But like the this looks natural. It looks like it's bones going out of their head.

You're saying, that's just how they are. That's just the style of the time is a little bit of different place, you guys. You guys should still see because I'm still sharing the window. Right, It's gonna be a little bit small for you guys. But that's just that is what it is. Let's uh, let's play it audio listeners. You should hear this. Let me just double check make truth. This is Dan getting right to interview styles. Yes, so damn they were doing radio row I believe, and

they're gonna do ask some interview questions to a J. Styles. Let's go ahead and take a listen. Actually, are we getting audio? Not getting audio? I don't hear it. Hang on, hang on on, I got second. Yeah, it's discord I got I always mute it on the opera. All right, here we go throwing a chair? What l A Nike running back? They're fighting ship the Brewkett cheer. Their kissing is gone. You tackle them and now crowds so security here, look I revote their

phones out and something about that. It's interesting. Chancelli got very tall. Yeah, he's bleeding. How is shredded? That's why you always wear a red shirt. It makes sense. So you're confused. Those two guys are going to be fighting, uh for WrestleMania. And they saw each other at media day and and Adrian or a j I threw a chair at him at L A Knight and they had to fight about it. I can't believe it

didn't go back to talk to Dan what the fu? Yeah, well, just because he's bleeding, I thought he was the rest I thought he was a professional. Jeff, were you suggesting that this is perhaps a shoot fight? No, damn, Chance says there was a producer frantically yelling on his phone and at another producer. I'm calling security. I don't know what's perfect, brother, Yeah, he got worked jan Yeah? Was that was that producer? Triple? All right, let's fade that out. Okay, we

did it. It's a BombCast for vengeance. Congratulations to the place, stay Sean, but you don't really all consoles are winner. In my heart, I would play it well what second place is also very impressive? Alright for for Nicky Bike and Seawan and myself and everybody at giant Bomb. Thanks for listening. We'll be back with the regular BombCast on Tuesday. Plenty of fun stuff happening on giant Bomb. If you're listening to the audio version of this,

head over to giant bomb dot com. Check out that content warning stream of the up f It's great. It was a good time. Oh yeah, so much fun. Well, me and nick you are going to put up clips of that everywhere. Yeah, so you'll see it elsewhere. Too thin. This uh, this banner image for the Giant Bum discord that's interesting just gets out of here. Let's get the hell out of Thanks everybody,

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