822: Derelict Mall

Hey, everybody, it's Tuesday, January. It's not January first, you idiot. January ninth, twenty twenty four. I am your host back from the dead. I've risen again. It is my fucking month. Jannahawa, host of the Giant BombCast absolutely eight hundred and twenty two powered by NZXT, joining me co captain of the ship the Artisan of Sandwiches and Our Hearts. Jeff Grebb that's right. I did not have a sandwich for breakfast this morning. I had hallepenos for breakfast. I did it. I hope that's okay

with you. Jeff Baklar, Wait, just like wraw in the bowl, just sort of yeah, yeah, well not with chopsticks. That's not a bad idea. That's some proof there. But okay, I know how to use chopsticks. I could show you. We got our spiciest pepper in the house. Jeff Beckler, that's right. I'm a medium to high spice pepper. And uh, I don't know what I register on what is it the skulvill Scoville? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm in the low thirties on

that scale. What's the max of the Skullvilles? Like, how high does it go. I don't know. I only think I think it goes infinite, like theoretically, because the whole idea is like how much water it takes to displace the spiciness of the pepper. So it's like how many I don't know, drops of water. I honestly don't know what the unit is, but but yeah, it's like how much water it takes to make it so you can't taste the pepper anymore. Basically, we have our own infinite supply

of wealth and happiness and friendship. Joining us on the podcast today, Jean Super Eye Patch, Wolf in the House. Guys, thank you so much dragging me here. It's a real honor. And specifically, I just want

to thank Jeff Backler for changing his mind. I don't know if you remember this, Jeff, but when me and you were kind of like, we got together and we're talking about, you know that what eventually became Jeff Jeff's Bizarre Adventure, and we're kind of like finalizing the deal and everything, and you said to me, so, is there anything else you want to enter this? And I was like, and I said that it could be cool to maybe guest on the BombCast sometime. And I remember you were sitting in

a dark room and I took a drag. You took a drag of your cigarette. You're smoking a cigarette, and you said, it'll be a cold day in hell before I ever let you on the BombCast. That sounds right. Yeah. And over the years then it's been two years then, and Jeff would kind of send me like reminders that I couldn't be on the BombCast. There was one time he sent me a message saying, like, we're down a man for the podcast today. Can you think of anyone? And I said, I said, oh, I could be on it, Jeff,

and he just wrote back, yeah, me neither. You got to keep him in check. Are you're right? You're right to do this? This sad morning. This morning, I woke up to a message and it just said Europe kid, people can change. People can change change the hardest thing to do. So learned. He's very cold right now, so maybe in the held actually is frozen. So yeah, that's why John, your hair has become silver. It's because of you've acclimated yourself to the cold.

Yeah, it's cold in Ireland. Let me tell you my boiler broke down last night. But you know what, it's fine because we're here and we're probably gonna talk about video games at some point. I don't know. I don't know. I'm a lot on my mind. You don't have to, we don't have to. Let me tell you, all right, folks, I caught COVID over the New Year's break, right, why, I'm not. I don't want to say it's exactly why because it might give my location

to WORF. Anyway, you do that, you shouldn't have done that. Yo. I go to my doctor before before right after the holiday break for like a quick checkup. I haven't checked myself out in quite a while, and I go, yo, I'm playing getting the flu shot I could get. I should get the booster too, right. She looks me in the face, It looks me up and down and goes, I don't know if

you need the booster, and then lo and behold. A couple of days later, your boy catches it. But anyway, I thought, oh cool, my partner's gonna My partner's gonna take care of me because she's also off because she's a teacher. You should pay teachers more. And then she's like, hey, uh, to protect myself, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go to Lake Tahoe with a dog. That's the move. That's the move. But you know what, jan in the Bay Area Here in San Francisco,

we often go to Lake Tahoe to see the snow. There was no snow, and you know what that was karmic justice? Yeah, yeah, yeah, everyone real happy with American Healthcare telling us not to get booster shots. Maybe. I look, there's no way to know if a booster shot would have who knows. Apparently it's poopoo water in the Bay Area specifically that's boosting the COVID rates. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a scientist, so don't quote me. No that that sounds exactly right. I'm both of

those professions. And yeah, I'm gonna have to have a word with your primary care physician there. You could just like walk into a gas station and get a booster these days, so you should have done that instead. That's sick. I got them both at once. I mean, I mean I was like I was down and out for thirty six hours, but like I

felt better after that. So you know, I got mine. I got and I think it's helped me. I think everyone else got sick of my family because they didn't get it, and I didn't take them with me, because whoa, that's peculiar that you were just like every man for himself and the grub, right final, they learned some personal responsibility. I happen to be at the disease son. I just happened to be at the CBS getting like picking something up. They're like, do you want this? I'm like,

oh, okay, yeah, sure. So I just kind of walked in the room and they works, no, who knows what actually what it was? Now that gentleman in the drench coat, Yeah, I got the tracker. Yeah five f now, yeah, they offer it like at the checkout line. Now, like you don't even need to like sit down and have like a nurse stab you. You just like get it as your credit cards being verified. Oh sick. You know, it's pretty sick. You just put out your arm and you're good to go. The other thing.

Oh no, go ahead, no no, no, no, no, no, you're you're a guest john. Yeah, you always win. Last time I was at a doctor, I was there for a different thing, and right the end of the appointment, he kind of took out the needle and he was like, do you do you want one of these party and I was like COVID shot and he was like yeah, and I was like sure, just yeah. Interesting guy. So it's it's been a minute.

It's been a minute, right since I've been to the doctor. And you know how normally, at least here in the States, a nurse will do like the quick pre check up and then kind of run you through the things. So at the end of my pre checkup, the nurse looks at me and goes like, all right, cool, there's a rope, go ahead and get naked. Change. The doctor's gonna check out your penis. And I'm like, what what? I just I just came. I just came in to check my hands. What's going on? What? Oh? That's

funny, how you I just came. They want to see how your penis hurt? Your fingers apparently, they're like, oh, we want to see the culprit. I was very confused and very shy, and then I'm like, all right, cool, I'm gonna go change. All right, it's very cold. Were you at a eurologist? I mean, my regular decular doctoricular regular ardicular, regular, particular doctor. And then you know the whole time goes by. I'm in the robe, I'm cold, and I'm half

naked. I'm waiting for the doctor to check the parts. And then uh, you know, we go on with the checkup. She does the whole like a blood pressure, heart right thing. I asked my questions, and the whole time like I'm talking and she's talking. I'm waiting of like, all right, when when are we going to naturally segue to check out the downstairs? When is this gonna happen? You promised me a dick inspection. I'm waiting And then I told her like, oh, yeah, you know,

my knee has been hurting. And then she like she lifts the gown up ever so slightly squeezes my knee, and he goes, that's probably because you're overweight. All right, bye, wait a minute. Everything that she leaves, nothing was checked. I feel like they've fucking punked me. Yeah, they negged you. They made Erle's that's like a move they do on a slow day where they're like, oh, let's put the let's do the old phantom dick check up on this guy. It's like it's like hits miss.

Like there's a hat with a bunch of different things they got to do to each of the patients and the like they just pulled out, all right, Tom, you're gonna check his dick, tell me he's overweight. All right, go in there, figure out how you're gonna do it. I think I think it's crazy, like because I think they experienced this stuff every day. They don't realize how concerning it is when they're super nonchalant about this

stuff. Remember I was at a party before. I was just at a like just at a fun birthday party, having great time, and I passed out. Wasn't super drunk. I was drinking, but I wasn't super drunk. I just was standing there talking to my friend and next thing boom, and like I woke up and I was like, what the foot? And so I ended up going to the doctor about it, and like I was

really freaked out because this has never happened to me before. And the doctor had like a teaching assistant in with them, you know that kind of way. Oh certain, yeah, And I tell him this whole story and I'm like, yeah, I don't know what's happening. This is like it didn't end up being anything. I don't know what's happening. This is like never happened to me before. And I'm just like just a bit like should I

be sleeping? Like is this a weird concussion thing? And then he's kind of saying all this, and then he then he looks at me, and then he looks at her, his assistant, and he goes, oh, this is mad John. Tell her what you do for a living. I make YouTube videos. And she was like, oh, no way, Well there's the problem right there. Oh that's why he passed out. Oh okay, I mean yeah, Backlar and grub. I need to tell you all this. I told Emmy how Dylan has has called us bad YouTubers, and

now she's just taken to telling all of her peers ends and students. Got to correct the virus is spreading. I see. You gotta correct them, tell them that we're mid twitch streamers. We're not even bad YouTubers. Are we mid twitch streamers? That's that's charitable. I don't know. I don't let me tell you. It's kind of there might be a certain hidden advantage there, because the moment someone calls you a good YouTuber anywhere on the internet,

oh yeah, that will bring out the wasps. Nest of people being like, well, actually that the watch to the to the takedown video. Yeah, yep, yep, exactly. I see what it's done to you, John, So I take that a lot of salt there. That's yeah, well, gentlemen, I guess we should eventually, at some point today talk about video games. Oh yeah, okay, I have in this document in front of me that Jeff Grubb, you're a man that likes driving. I understand. Yeah, you like hopping in the truck. I enjoy it

at the virtual truck even and going for a drive. It says here that you've been going on a Pacific drive. Yeah. I got the preview build for this game and I've put in some time with it. We'll be playing it on the site tomorrow, so that'll be like the real go at it.

But I kind of dipped into it a little bit this morning and yesterday, and like the early takeaway is I really like the structure of you are going to be in charge of controlling everything in this car, and it's a lot of these things are mapped to the dpad, but if you want to aim at the at the windshield wiper button, you could do that. If

you want to engage the key to actually turn it on. You can look at that and do that, and I like kind of feeling like, Okay, this is I'm full in control of everything that's happening here, and that's cool because everything else, like in the world, Uh, sureb your your audio it's dead. It's not working. Your audio by himself. He doesn't know. He doesn't know to rip open right behind me, and I could

see it in the side view mirror and it's like getting closer. I'm like, okay, I gotta turn on the car, put it and put it ship shift in the gear and then try to drive away, get around these trees. And it creates these really tense moments for when you're actually chef. Do you know you did a break again? It did? We We can't we you came back and we started hearing you. Okay. I honestly, I think Goxa's really broken for me. So I don't know what to do

because I think it's going to keep doing this. But you could hear us now right, Yes, I can hear you now, okay, because you went on for about like fifteen seconds where you were just sort of in your own world and I want you to just repeat everything you just said. I'm afraid it's oh yeah, yep, yep, yep, it's it's no no bueno, okay, saying good by. I felt like there was a lot of enthusiasm in like the facial movements yet into it though, he feels positively

about this game. Maybe you're accidentally breaking the embargo and that's what happened. Yeah, and they got us, they got us in the wires. I'm gonna I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna reinstall GOXA. I hope for the best. Okay, god speak, all right, I'll see you guys in a second. Okay, right, all right, Sorry Sean, uh for making this a little difficult, don't you. Anyway, Ever since we improved the audio quality of this podcast, it's been nothing but an absolute comedy of

errors, all landing in the lap of one turbo Sean. So we salute you, We salute you, sir. As I am fixing the layout and some of the audio stuff here. Sean, have you been playing anything,

Well, yes, I have. John Christmas and like the kind of holiday region, gearly region, and it was definitely like I was very busy for a lot of the year and it was me catching up on a bunch of stuff from last year, and I gotta say one thing that just like took over my life for a couple of days that I was not expecting lives of p either. Oh yeah, yeah, I played like eight hours of it.

Man. I think I had, you know, the impression everyone did that game where it's like you guys, you guys really like Bloodborne, huh yeah, and like it's a really really well made game. But I think what's kind of interesting about it is like they have really taken a lot of Bloodborne and smashed it together with a lot of Sekiro in a way that I think is really rad. That you're gonna say illegal, but yeah, I also think it's illegal. Like I'm a big fan of this game, but

the people who created it should be in jail. But it's it's really it's it's just it's really really cool, and I think it's interesting, like the little innovations they have put on it to kind of I guess, shift it like a little bit away from like the philosophies of those games and making it

its own thing. Like one thing I realized is when you block a hit in this you get like you get you take like regainable damage so that you block a bunch of hits and then it's like, Okay, if I get aggressive, I can get that health back and it creates this really nice like kind of I guess sort of push and pull. But I think my one of my favorite mechanics in the longest time, And like it's such a simple

thing. You know, when you get down to your last s just flask or whatever the s just equivalent is in this game, and it recharges dependent on how much damage you do. So I have had like so many knife Edge boss fights where it's like, okay, I have a full health bar, I have no health refills, but if I do enough damage, I'll

get it back. And it really I feel like it turns a lot of the fights from this feeling of repeating patterns being it like repeating a set number of patterns waiting until this HB bar hits zero to an actual kind of fight in a weird way where like you're really struggling and you're barely scraping through, and it's fantastic. I think the whole puppet thing goes so much harder than I ever expected it to, Like I am simply delighted by every new boss

battle, every new cut scene. I'm like, oh, look at this weird fucking puppet. What's this thing gonna do? And it's just been really great. And it's interesting seeing like the different, like the different approach to story, because you know, with any Soul's game, it's very the story is very much like something you find in like the cracks of the game,

but in this there's full on cut scenes. You're you're you're playing as a character who has relationships with other characters like Pinocchio in this is a canonical character and I've been really really enjoying that part of it. Like I wasn't like I had a boss fight where things didn't end decisively, and now in one

boss has even Deebta against me, and it's just it's it's great. I do think when you're playing it first, it does feel a little strange, and I put that down to it doesn't quite have like the from Soft polish. You know, it's like from Soft have been doing this kind of game for I don't know how many years now, and so when you hit heavy attack, you feel every frame of that animation and it feels so good to just like like cleave into an enemy, Liza P. I don't think it

feels quite as good. The parry especially feels a bit weird, like you have to kind of time it a little before the actual hit. Sure, but I think if you can wade through the first two or three eras, this is a this is a delicious souls Like, this is such a cool game, and I've really really been having a blast of it. I was.

I was super into it because I much I really dug the style of Bloodborne, and I think that matches this in a way that just kind of like talks and I just like when things are fucking weird and creepy and the puppet stuff you put at the top there, Like for me, that was the biggest draw of like, oh, I want to see every enemy design. I want to see like all the weirdo, you know, Marionette horrific

creations that are coming out of this game. And that's kind of one of the reasons I kept going on and got through that first barrier of like, Okay, now that I'm somewhat experiencing from games, I have to sort of get through. You have to like break through that first wall where you sort of teach yourself like the rules, the unspoken rules of this game. And once I did that, I was like, oh, I'm I'm progressing,

and I'm and I'm really enjoying my time with it. Yeah. I was a little bit disappointed when because I really dug the bloodborne influence and the puppet stuff, and then I was disappointed when it kind of dipped away from that for a second. But I'm glad that they leaned all the way back into weird, creepy puppet stuff. What other stuff does it dive into, Like

like how far away does it get? It goes? It takes a detour into like cult zombie adjacent infected stuff, but that winds up paying off the further you get into the game, along with the messed up puppet stuff. Yeah, it's like there's a lot of you know, you're fighting out a lot of like marionettes and stuff like that, and then they introduce a second

type of me which is like extremely organic as opposed to the mechanical. But I do kind of feel you, John, because like I felt like, for the section of that that I've experienced, I did feel like, oh, now I'm kind of playing more of a frum soft vibe, where like just the jerky movements of the marionettes, which like the animation on them is just incredible, Like it's so so good that really it gives it a feel that is so much more unique than just like a bloodborn knockoff, you know.

Yeah, And I really like the utilization of the arms or like what

would be like the sacro row left arm gadget. I wound up really really using the fire against everything after a while, and like that just wounded being a way to like slowly tick up damage on virtually everything because it worked really well against those organic enemies you mentioned, but also just because the damage is incremental over time, even on the marionette stuff, it just wanted up being super duper effective despite really wanting to be cool with a grappling arm, John,

have you finished it yet? I have not. I have only just hit the King of Pulpits O that bastard. Okay, And Jeff, when you were saying like about you know you wanted to see whatever weird puppet thing was coming next, I saw the King of Puppets and I was like, God, damn, that is a design like that rules I'm assuming it's Jeff Dunham. Yeah, yeah, it's final form. It's got to be Jeff Dunham, I would assume. Yeah, it's actually just Jim Henson in there.

Oh okay, just how dare you speak his name in the same sentence. I'm comparing him as a King of Puppets instead of Jeff. Okay, good, we're all in agreement. You think there's someone out there that that thinks that Jeff Dunham is like superior to Jim Henson without a doubt. I don't even need to think about it. Okay, fantastic, fantastic. That's that's the circus planet we all occupy. Oh my god, god, Now I'm just thinking of all those comedy specials. Oh man, you are Jesus

Christ the comedy special. I'm just thinking that I would love the next livees of p Game to be about muppets. Oh my god, my god, give me like a really difficult muppet souls like and I feel like we're in I don't think I could bring myself to like kill any of the muppets. No, I don't think it's killing. I think it's just sort of like, you know, uh, removing them from their their hand operators from their

mortal coil. Oh, okay, okay, and then they're just sort of like, you know, I think Sesame Street has been a thousand years ago and a great infection has spray it rights itself. Yeah, I mean, come on, if they did fucking Pinocchio, they can do Sesame Street,

right John. I know the game is going to get difficult, like any Soul's game, but I implore you, I implore you, if you decide to ever bounce off of Lives of p please check out the after credits, uh stinger, because as someone that I feel also enjoys the kind of Pinocchio Brothers grim old fairy tale bullshit, it delivers on that so hard. I would say, like, I'm all in on this game. I don't think I can drop it right now, beautiful, Like I've beaten all the Soul

games, so I have heard that the difficulties spikes something fierce. All right, I'm okay with it. If you've gone to the King of Puppets, I think you can completely handle it then, because the the Little priest Man before that is a little bit of a toughye, the Little Priestman, the Little Priestman, is it the clown dude. I might be getting the order mixed up in my head, but Little priest Man is my favorite Mumford in some song, I'm good. Yeah, let's let's let's let's release like a

stomp and clap, hoot and holler and album. Huh oh man. Yeah. I used to call myself like the brown Mumford and Sons member. Anyway, going from Puppets and all that ilk to something else that terrifies me because puppets low key scare me. Is claymation, something absolutely terrifying is And I've I've been very vocal about this about my strong disdain for Wallace and Grommitt because how about immersion therapy. Jeff Grubb, I've been playing Jeff Grub and Company.

I've been playing Wallace and Grommitt in the Grand Getaway on the Meta Quest three. What if you know? If you like? Because it is like a visceral reaction, right, why do you do this to yourself? Yeah? Like what's wrong with you? You know? We could look in the mirror and ask ourselves that question all day and we wouldn't get anywhere. Huh that's right. Uh. Let me tell you I think I am slowly understanding the appeal of Watson grunt and that it's okay, I like this dog.

This dog is charming Wallace, he has lots put up with the jen He does have a lot to put up with. Uh. Wallace, on the other hand, is uh, I don't like this man. Don't like this man at all. I get it. I there's something just deeply unsettling about the you know, maybe more like his eye cavities, right, like that's his mouth, it's his mouth, you know, it's like it's too wide on the sides. And then I see too much of like these teeth in the back, his back teeth then you normally do you know? Sure?

I think there's an element about him where he is a bringer of kind of chaos and misery, but he is completely unaware of it. He's oblivious to it. Yes, And I find that kind of horrifying. I mean, it represents the British Empire, does it not. I mean they weren't oblivious, I guess. And then so right, that's that's the whole stick. Yeah, he's the whole thing. Is dan Rykert are Wallace a little bit? And I think I think Don Reichert is Wallace and the world is his

Grama. Wow, that's right there, it is. That's almost too much to bear. But I've been playing the VR game uh and it's a fun

little neat uh A title. You're just solving puzzles, you're helping well else and Grama go on a little vacation and it's doing the regular VR stuff of like oh you can go grab this and put it over there, but it does a lot of neat stuff with the controllers, specifically where instead of just pointing to a location to teleport there, because it does that a lot, raise your hands up to your VR advisor and pretend like they're binoculars and then

you can find the specific place to teleport over to. And I think the claimation aspect of it, or the stop motion aspect of it, lends itself really well to VR, surprisingly because I think strong aesthetics and strong art styles work incredibly well in VR rather than trying to be like a photorealistic adventure.

Right yeah, sure, yeah. And here it's great because, like you know, you start the game and you're one of Wallace's contraptions and your arms are just like a little robot spindly arms with springs, so it makes sense as to why you can stretch them out and stuff, and then you eventually are like take over as Gramet and you're looking for a bunch of crackers for a good five minutes, and I don't know, I wind up really digging

it despite being absolutely repulsed by claymation in its entirety, but being immersed into the world. Maybe immersion therapy does work. They also have like a neat little side mode that does the pass through that a lot of mediquest games are starting to do, where they'll scan the room and then oh man, here's like a bunch of toasters popping out of your actual walls and door frames, and then you're just shooting jam at a bunch of pieces of toast. Yeah.

I want to play this game really badly. Do I have to buy a meta quest? Just can I? I can't play it on anything else. It's a meta quest title. I think somebody it probably on the two Do you have Do you have any meda quest? No? No, I don't. They're not just you know, it wasn't an accusation. He's just he's just asking. Yeah, I know, I know, you're right, Jeff. I'm sorry with that. So if you're about to say, they don't just hand him out, they literally just handed one to me and jam,

that's literally what happened. You got it? You got a person? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can get you a person claymation, things that don't require it's really charming, though, it's it's really charming, And like the whole time I was booting it up, I was like, I'm gonna hate this, I'm gonna hate everything about this, but I am sorry to understand the charm of Wallace and Grammat And maybe they should adapt more uh children shows two VR, because I feel like that be maybe more. Aren't

kids not supposed to wear VR headsets and melts their fragile little brains. That's that's just them covering their ass. That's just that. Does that mean though there has to be some truth to that? No? There doesn't, No, No, there doesn't. For lawyers to say yours, there's doesn't have to be sad to it. I look, I embrace your skepticism fullheartedly, right of course, Like what so what is going on? Like if there's enough of a reason for them to want to, they just don't. They

don't know what's gonna happen. So they're like, well, if we don't know, we can't say it's safe because then we'll get sued. That's what the lawyers say. And the lawyers are right because who like, who knows what will happen, but uh, you're gonna be fine. It's just like the you know, the whole scare about screen time, and now all the recent research is like screen time doesn't have any real negative effect on kids, no more than anything else. It's just we didn't know. Some people kind

of make a make up. They're like, let's be extra cautious about it, especially if you're a big, multi billion dollar company. I think that's too. I think that's two different things. But but I understand where you're coming from, you know, I think there has been enough, uh research

in terms of like the specific specificity of screen time. I was always under the impression and especially when it first came out, when I was like, I remember who did I meet with was back had seen it where someone was just like, hey, just make sure your sixteen year old or playing this, and I'm like, it's just it's just I don't know. That resonated with me in a way where I'm like, oh, this could kill a

kid. I couldn't anything. Yeah, of course, And obviously I'm not like the pearl clutching parent who's like, I think, oh my sweet Johnny. The question three is going to be for like one of the better ones

because it's just the trackings so good and it's not gonna end. That's the The screen is really nice on the eyes, Like I don't I don't get too strained using this jan I don't know about you, but I've used it for some pretty long stretches, even like right before bed, and I take it off and it's I don't feel like I've been staring at an LCD screen two inches away from my face for the last two hours. I'm just like, oh, okay, no, I'm good. I can go right to

sleep. So it feels like the comfort level in the terms of the optics, is the best it's ever been, which is why most of my concerns around that have completely gone away. I think the most disoriented I've felt after the session with the Medaquest three is actually playing a game rather than like using it as like another monitor or like watching a movie through it. Let me tell you, watching like a Wes Anderson Joint on that Bad Boy who it

feels like you're going places. Also, So we've talked about the Big Picture app specifically, right, yeah, and there are public rooms you can enter in the Big Picture mode when you go through, like the little social tab. You can host your own stuff, watch a movie with friends, et cetera, et cetera. Are some questionable rooms that people are hosting on the Big Picture app. Well, you know last time I almost wandered into a

an adult film room. Uh sure. This time, as I was scanning through movies or rooms just for poops and giggles, there was a lot of Christianity only or Christianity theory rooms. That's the only player survive. Wait, what do you how do they enforce what Christianity only? Like, what's the what's the door check? Oh? Right, like am I allowed in there? Well? Yeah, if it's if it's evangelical American, they'll just do that thing from Family Guy where they check out what you are like that's only

right? Yeah, I think it's It will probably be more of a call and response thing, so they'll be like and with your spirit and then they'll wait for your response. Okay, you might you gotta get booted, buddy. And that's basically the password. You spend a lot of time in VR,

John, or no at all. So I have never really tried it because I have a thing where like, if I play a first person shooter that's too fast, I will I will feel motion sick and so I just feel like VR is basically this thing waiting to beat the shit out of me. Yeah you know what I mean. You knock me out for a good two and a half years. That's right. I've literally not gone back. It's half apathy and ate and laziness, sure, and the other is going

to be the thing that gets you back. It's going to get me back on the horse. I'm telling you. I just watched this trailer. I think this looks really really cool. I yeah, it knocked me, and like again I was. I was down and out for ninety minutes. I had to sit, lay down and just sort of stare into nothingness. I needed like a deprivation chamber until I could finally, you know, walk around my house again. But I hear you, John. I used to think like, oh, I'm I'm above motion sickness. No, I'm just a

I'm just a weak human I'm just a weak human man. No. I did a stream of that Doom Mud, the one that was really popular a couple of months ago, my home down lod or something. Yeah, And over the course of that stream you can literally see me meltz and just, guys, I don't I don't feel so good. Thank you for the subscription Party House eighty four, and just barfed offscreen, right, I mean like close close? Yeah? What was the what was the game that recently got

me sick for the Lethal company? Copyright is what it was? I don't know, I don't combination of factors it always is. Yeah, I can't. I've never been able to pin it down. Another one was Umarogie Generations. Oh interesting, Yeah, that made like I played like ten minutes of that and I felt so sick. And then like a couple of days later, the guy who made the game, gut in contact, was like,

would you like a free copy? And I had to be like, I'm sorry, buddy, I'm I'm too much of a week baby to play your game. I wonder is it like the lack of like a cursor or like a crosshair. People told me it's head bob. They told me it's like and Lethal Companies, not VR, It's like a regular FPS like I don't know, I don't know what it is. I did feel it. I felt it also when we played that Ana Crusius game. M Oh but that but I didn't trying to kill you. He wasn't the first time forever.

You know, there was there's something there that, but it wasn't as dramatic where like Lethal Company. It took fifteen minutes and I was just ready to go. Meanwhile, we played the finals for how many hours and I was just like this is perfectly fine and okay. So I don't know, so weird Yep, I don't think it's It's like it's gonna be the crosshair at the head Bob for sure. For sure that the first time I'm doing his turn in the head Bob done because I'll die. Yeah, I thought about

this, Johnny. It's not funny. It's an affliction. No no, no, no no no no no no no. I was I'm only laughing because I was thinking in my shoot life, man, I'd love to turn off head Bob. Huh. As I was like walking down a hallway and kind of zoning out, I'm like, you tell me you can change your gate and like completely remove the head bob because apparently head bobbing while you actually

walk in her life is a sign of inefficiency in your gate. So I'm looking about saying right now, Jeff Grubb, you can have walked inefficiently with them. I do too. I'm like yeah, So I'm like, okay, I'm gonna try to walk straight forward without having my head move up and down. And then you start to feel insane and then you just follow. Unless your head is a steady cam, you are failing at walking. I have a fun saunter, all right, I'm filled with pep in each step.

Do love your saunter. But speaking about getting motion sickness, as Guard's Wrath two has been giving me a lot of motion sickness after playing it. Uh this has been like the talk of the town with the Mediquest three. I've seen a bunch of advertisements talking about uh this, I believe and also gave this a ten out of ten? Is that correct? Right? What that is correct? Ten out of ten? Is that the first VR game to get a ten out of ten? Alex got it? Alex got it?

Yeah. Yeah. But Asgard's Wrath two, I haven't checked out the first one. But let me tell you, they they just made another God of War and it's not God of War. This feels like lies of p levels of illegal where yo. This I'm just I'm just kind of crados. I'm just kind of Is this a God of War where you like murder your kid or you take care of it? Which? Which which variant where you're just murdering the the gods type? Yeah, it's all the Norse gods.

You have an ax you can throw, you just whip it back in your hand. It's it is exactly God of War and got war rat. It's kind of cool. Look, it's it's pretty neat. And I got stuck in the first five minutes. Not dude of the game at all, but because of my hands being the way that they are right now, and I couldn't use the the grip function on the Mediquest controllers to ride on my Giant Raven. So I had to ask my partner, Hey, can you just walk up to me, but like, don't move me in VR right now,

otherwise I think I might throw up. Just press this small trigger button so I can ride a bird and then I just hear her just deeply sighed and go like, all right, all right, here you go. And then for the next two minutes, I'm riding a raven through the history of Asgard's Wrath one and I'm having the time of my life. Yeah, it's cool, sounds cool. It It does the thing where it gives you a

bunch of different options and how to control your character. You're moving with your left stick, you're looking around with a right and you can either change to

like the free look around or the kind of stuttering snap snap movement. I don't know if there is a way to do like the teleporting movement versus the actually just walking through the thing, But I feel like this game is very brave in the fact that it gives you that free movement, but is also giving you a lot of options to move around your environment in terms of like,

all right, you're gonna be vaulting over this thing. There's gonna be a lot of wall running here, you know what, We're gonna introduce some platforming now, right, And it actually handles it really well enough. And the ability to the conceit of being, hey, you're just inhabiting this person's body as like a pseudo demigod. You can and you do have the ability to just drop your stuff and just pull it from your belt whenever you want

just throw the ax. It lends to the combat really well, and it's doing the thing where it's like, okay, cool, here's a bunch of small mini arenas, move to room to room. But because I think again of the distinct art style, I think I'm having a better time with it than I think I would if it was trying to go for like all the way into God of War. Here it's kind of like, yeah, I don't know why this came to my head, but imagine if God of War

meshed with talk the power of Juju. Hell yeah, incredible and like that kind of like very high saturation art style that that feels like it's it's it's aimed towards that that the top power of juju heads out there. Wow, I did not I did not know I was going to think tucked and power of Juju today. You know, twenty twenty four, we're starting the euro of right, right, this is what we can do for you, John, Thank you, Jeff. I've only played maybe about like an hour and

a half into it. I'm aiming to play more, but it was just the portion of getting used to the snap turning that was making me feel a little little sick. But all the actual platforming aspects of like wall running and like jumping over stuff like that didn't give me the headache. It was the snapping around. So I might change the controller to be like free look around

with like the right stick instead. Yeah, normally people find the snap movement to be less queasiness inducing, so I'll be interested to hear how you find that. I'll say one trick to eliminate as much of that as possible is when you have the option steer with your head, because then your body's like, oh, okay, I'm down with this. I can handle this. If you are going to move forward, and instead of snapping over to the right, just kind of look to the right and let it start moving you

in that direction. That that can eliminate a lot of those problems. But yeah, I've been I've been really surprised you about like the wall running, especially where it's like, okay, I'm gonna just the game's going to make me run across this wall while I'm standing still. This is not going to work and it has never been a problem so far, So kind of kind of For one, it's like, okay, cool that that works. And too, I was like, oh, now that now we got like a

game here. Now we got a game, like a game that's going to be like doing some real stuff in it platform and all these cool things. And the combat's obviously cool because it has the first person you're actually throwing the axe combat that's neat, But I was hoping it wouldn't just be a bunch of small arenas that I sit in and then I moved to the next arena

and do that same thing again. It's like, no, they can have some variety in there because they're trying all these things that are actually functional. So you start to see how people really are getting into this game. I don't know if I'm like falling in love with it ten out of ten, but it's definitely impressive for what it is. I think, really what this is doing for me is convincing me it's time to go back to Alex and really really actually play Half Life Alex. Yes, that's the one game that

I have a little regret over never completing. I was also on board and then you said something about aiming with your head and like that that brings me a great deal of strugg just like I just mean, like not like aiming, like where you're gonna throwing walking just like I want to walk over there, so I'm gonna look over there and then I'm gonna press forward and then yeh, that's what I'm saying. Yes, yeah, yeah, the actual

aiming of like throwing the axe. It feels very very generous in terms of the and of course, all right, I might have to request christ John. I'm sorry that I'm used to it, Like there's been so many great episodes of Jeff Jeff's that he's just ruined. Honestly. It's what I do.

The the Steam link stuff where you can play wirelessly that I'm like, okay, yeah, I'm gonna use the Quest three to play Alex and it just works so well that like, okay, yeah, I have the valve index set up and everything, like I'm just gonna use the Quest three instead. For some reason, that convenience that will just push it over the top. I'm like, I'm ready to go back. Yeah, I guess I just throw my vibe out right, likew what is just going to throw into

the garbage? I get it. Jeff like to me often the difference between like playing a game I kind of like versus dropping it is how convenience will it be to reach out to you know what I mean? Like if I have to set up a console to play a game, I might buy that game, it might be many months before I touch it, But if you can just download it onto some things, And I think that's like that is a challenge with VIR. It's like it kind of needs to get more convenience

before it's ever gonna hit like any kind of mainstream saturation point. The messed up thing that I saw in the app store on Metaquest three last night was ex cloud support, And let me tell you, holy smokes, that shit works, and it works really well. I mean, all things consider if you have a decent Internet connection. But wow, am I just waiting waiting to have it be socially acceptable to just be wearing a Quest three at all times? I know, Hey, well we got the new story today.

You can just get a vision pro that's going to be socially acceptable because is it? Yeah, you spent three that's a five hundred dollars on it. People aren't allowed to make fun of rich people, so I think you're allowed to throw rocks at those people's face. I'm not saying you should, but I think you might. Shouldn't think that's gonna happen. Everyone gets one rock. You got to decide who you're going to throw it. That's right, it must be tumbled, it must be a tumbled rock. But you get

one. You can't collect rocks from your friends and throw a bunch of rocks. Only one person per rock. Jeff grub you tried to talk about Pacific Drive at the very beginning of the show. Let's let's let's let's hear about Pacific Drive again, hopefully. Yeah, I have funding this, Sean. Yeah, I I've played a little bit. I kind of like dipped into to kind of get started and get my my my feet underneath me in the game. We're gonna really play it for real tomorrow on the site as like

a like a preview capacity sort of thing a GB plays. But the things I'm liking so far is skew morphism. Is that the word where it's like, you know, they try to digitize a real world analog act and they do a lot of that in this game, where it's like, Okay, you can actually look at the key in the ignission to start the car and that feels cool, and then you can look at the stick shift to put it into gears to start to start driving. Uh. And that it serves

one function of I enjoy that. I like being in the world where it's so immersed that it's like, no, I can actually do these things manually myself. But then it also lends a sort of heightened tension when you get into the situations where like, Okay, I am getting chased down by this amorphous, nebulous teleportation cloud that also hurts me. That is seems to be the main driving force of moving you around this world. It's gonna it's a

rogue light. That's the structure. This thing is constantly closing and on you. That's the threat. There are other threats, but that's the main one. But it's kind of thing where it's like, Okay, I'm trying to drive away from this thing. It's in my side view mirror. I could see it. Oh God, the car's not turned on. I got to

turn on the ignition. I got to move it into gear. And the whole time you can still look over and see that threat coming up behind you, and then you just kind of start driving, and it really creates these neat moments where you really feel the scariness of this thing coming to get you. In terms of like the play structure, it's like, I'm still kind of like feeling out what the loop is going to be. It's every rogue can be very different. I just I'm curious to see how they make the

car feel different from run to run. I think that's going to be the real key to whether or not this game works for me or not. It's like, Okay, the car can get wild powers, and in one run it's like, I don't know, it was like jumping or hopping. I really have no idea what to expect, but I get the sense that they've really thought about the way the car is going to feel like a character.

Because the driving is very much, very forgiving. It's very easy to move it around the world, and then you know, occasionally then it'll still feel like a car when you like really pick up speed, that momentum really carries you for and you're, oh my god, I'm like ran into that tree without expecting it. So it's like, Okay, they're setting the pieces up for me. It's really just going to come down to how that loop works, and I expect we'll be able to get a couple of those in tomorrow,

so we'll I'll have more to say next week, for sure. I do like the ability to take a banged up junkie ass car and just drive it up a hill that it shouldn't go up, and then you know, through sheer, pure will and belief, it goes up that hill. And it's it's got a great like look and style with like the Pacific Northwest, and that means, of course it's raining, so you can turn on your windshield wipers and that also is something you could do manually, or it's it's

map to the dpad as well. Uh and and just kind of driving around in this spooky exclusions zone in h by Olympia Mount Olympia in Washington. Uh, It's it's really neat. I'm digging everything that's laying out in front of me. So far cool. I've been looking at this uh and and definitely keeping it on my radar. I'd love to try out this preview. I will do that at some point hopefully this week. Yep. Sounds good.

Jeff Greb. You also put here cobalt core. Yeah, this is one that Dan talked about last week, and he described it as like FTL and Into the Breach and it is all those things some of my favorite things you could tell me about that a game is similar to h It even look looks in terms of not just it's it's visuals, but in terms of like its font choices looks very into the breach in FTL, which I think the they did that consciously to speak to that audience and say, hey, we are

making the game for you, and I think it does a really admirable job of establishing its own identity while also still being kind of one of those So you're going from node to node, you are like just like an FTL, like saying, Okay, now I'm gonna try to get over to this pathway because I want to get to that thing. Hopefully I can buy an upgrade

there and that can carry me in through the end of this run. The actual moment to moment gameplay, Dan described it, But it's like, you know, it's it's a it's a ship battle, but in the same way, Into the Breach is like an abstraction of Kaiju and mech battling. This is an abstraction of ship to ship combat. You're just kind of moving.

You're sliding back and forth left and right, and you're playing a series of cards that you're getting hand to hand, and you are trying to just play those cards the best you can to take the least amount of damage and do the most amount of damage. That means you, you know, powering up your shields or moving your ship in such a way playing the by you know, playing the luck of the cards. So that's like, Okay, I'm gonna move over to like two spaces to the left, do an attack,

and then hop one space back to the right. That's what this car does. I'm gonna lay that down. And now that I've done that, I did you know that a little bit of damage to that other ship, But now the line of damage it was going to do, because like into the breach you can see what these ships are going to do beforehand is lined up with the part of my ship where I put like a little gap where it's just scaffolding. So it's going to go right right between the parts of my

ship where it could do damage. And you feel really smart in instance is like that feeling smart, right, And that's the best part of endo. The breach is like, oh my god, I thought about it. I thought about it. I thought about it, and there was a way for me to do damage and not take any damage and making you feel smart every turn when you finally discover that when you're like looking at it for like ten

minutes, is really cool. So it's got that going for it. I don't know if I love it as much as Into the Breach or FTL, but it's definitely like playing in that space well enough that it deserves to be mentioned alongside those games. I can't tell. One of the things that I loved about FTL was like the you know, you're playing it and you just get all these weird scenarios and stories they'll come out of it, like you

dying of oxygen alone with your weird space dog right at the end. Yes, how is there much of that in this game where it's kind of like, you know, I guess, kind of like weird emergent stories. I don't know how emergent it is, but they definitely have these characters that Dan left out that they're furries. So it's a furry game, which I love. Give me furry games. That's fine with me, and I don't I

actually don't know how much Dan knows. We can research that one day, but they definitely are trying to like have like an overarching story, like in one of the runs, I met a future version of myself that of course had an eyepatch and had all this battle damage, and they were the evil

version of myself. I think they're going more for like the Hades style of storytelling than these necessarily like hey, the emergent FTL style, although there's definitely emergent moments, but it's going to be like, oh, I was in this battle and I did this thing and that was cool. It's going to be along those lines. You mentioned the furry aspect to this game always, and I think maybe maybe you and Dan might like Fuga Melodies of Steel where

it's nothing but furries. And then if you do really poorly and need something to save yourself, you put one of the furry children put in the spirit canon. Yeah, just stick them in the oven. Yeah, and then you know they'll they'll die, but oh yeah, you'll pass the mission. It's great, sure, all right, exactly, don't don't take your furry friends and sacrifice them. And I don't mean your pets, I mean your friends that are into furries. Yeah, don't kill your pets, kill your

furry friends. Okay, any no game of the week this week, But has anyone else been playing anything they'd like to chat about a little shitty chat about been helping out the kid play games a bunch, Like she's been playing a ton of Mario, ton of Astro, and so it's like a lot of my day is like, hey, I need help with this us okay, And then I end up playing like a half hour of these games still, and I like that cause I want to be playing these games anyhow.

I think about them a lot, Mario and Astro and Spider Man, and so it's like having like a reason to hop in. It's almost like gaming TikTok, where it's like, instead of like sitting down to watch a show, I'll watch, you know, ten minutes of TikTok videos. It's like, oh, I'm gonna play you know, ten to thirty minutes of this video game, like in the middle of it suddenly, and there's something about

that. I wish there was almost like a warrior where for actual video games, like a service that just takes little segments of games and hands them to you unless you play them in little chunks. There's something there that'd be cool. I've been playing too much of the Finals. No, there's never too much. I mean, I just feel real iggy about the AI voice stuff every time i've boot it up. But then I have so much fun.

I have so much fun playing the Finals, and I won't stand for the slander that the Internet is trying to put out that the Light class is useless. Oh is that a conversation that's attempting to be made. It's a conversation that's being that's attempting to get through. But I'm not having it. Let me tell you all zippity duda through a fucking window, unlock the vault, grab the vault, and run all the way across the map for the team

and and start cashing out. Let me tell you it's great. Also, the heavy class, if if you've only touched the finals ever so slightly, the Heavy class almost has like a body slam ability, the q ability where you're running through and you kool aid man through the walls. If you jump up and then activate it, you destroyed down ah. And there's a lot of there's a lot of good synergy there of like, hey, maybe you were the medium class. You throw at a jump pad to uh give your

whole team some verticality. You're heavy, will jump on the pad and then slam down on the team trying to cash out. It's absolutely fantastic because if he gets up really high and does it, does he like begin to have friction with the atmosphere and catch on fire? No, No, that's coming in a patch probably that's season two. I really love this game. I go back and forth with controlling it on a controller and then mouse and keyboard,

and I really want to. I think I have to like put in a little bit of work to get it to play exactly how I wanted to with with mouse and keyboard. I'm just not there yet. I think there's a couple of things on controller that handcuff you a little too much where you could like really make it work for you with the right kind of layout and binding on keyboards. So so we're of just like flipping between those two things. But yeah, I really really dig this game. Are you guys solo

killing me? Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't have friends. Yeah, I mean either, That's why I asked I only play games with people when it's work hours. Yeah, I gotta get be being paid of course. Yeah. I tried to play with my normy, idiot asshole friends and they were like they dug it. They but like they just they just can't commit to anything, like everything's too new for them.

There's such whiny little bitches. I hate them. But yeah, maybe like one or two of them will stick around because you only need two of them, so hopefully they'll they'll want to play more. But yeah, that's the update. I'm here. I'm putting this out into the universe here, and I don't know if you can group up with and do a custom game just yet, but imagine so yeah, imagine down the line three three v three v three v three and that super cash out mode forget what it's called.

Yeah, us giant bomb three representatives, maybe against three representatives from kind of funny. What's another group of three people? Oh maybe the next Slander Crew one more group of three, I don't know. Maybe we go against map. Yeah, God, just think about the bedlam. I just think about how much we would destroy all of those things, So we would fucking annihilate all of them. I do believe we would stunt on those hose. Yes, that's right. Yeah, what said? Oh g a mey.

We're in the finals, so I just want to one more note. Oh, I just wanted to emphatically say how much I love stunting on those hose. Let's make John's always saying that I do always say that. That's true. Yeah, they'll probably have custom games here pretty soon. I bet, so we can check in then and make that happen. I would have been playing more games this week, except for we have a review game, Prince of Persia. The embargo for that is Thursday, so we can't talk about

it on this episode. I've been playing a lot of it. We are going to talk about it on BombCast Revengeance on Friday. We're going to make that a review episode for that, so that'll be our first segment. A lot of people, a lot of us have been playing. I think a lot of us will be in there talking about it. So look forward to that. You're playing it? No, oh wait? Did I fuck? Did I not send you the thing? Oh god? Also, if you've enjoyed a little bit of the VR, talk this UPF. We're gonna do

like a little UPF virtual reality grab bag of stuff. Yep, dumbass VR bullshit or whatever we called it. Yes, I have a meta quest. Three Grub does Dan, and so does Nikki. So tune in for some shenanigans. If you're watching live see you matrayed. You a meta quest for a Prince of Barshako after Friday. After Friday, Uh, folks, We're gonna take a quick bricky break and we will be back with the news after

this. Just kidding. There are more games to talk about. Those games are going to be talked about, and we're going to discuss them with John super Ie Patchable. Okay, So I'm playing a game called in Stars and Time and you heard of this. I saw you playing a little of it on your Twitch stream, I believe, which might have been someone else. Okay, you weren't streaming this one, Okay, different. Wow, there are a lot of there are a lot of wolves. Look the same to

me. Okay, that's fair, that's fair. Okay. So this is like, this is an interesting game. So the whole idea behind it is like it's kind of like the last ten hours of an RPG. So when you start, your characters have all already met, they've all formed their little party, and they're all basically in the town before the final dungeon, and

they've all like established their little relationship and established there. They're making references to all this stuff that's happened in the past, and I kind of have to spoil a little bit about it to just convey the basic premise, but it's all pretty early game stuff. It's basically like you getting to the final boss with these characters and getting your shit, and then time starts to loop, so it's like the final day of an ORPG and your time looping over and

over and trying to figure out how to beat it. And there's a lot of cool stuff about this game. I really love the art style. The art style is like somewhere between like a studio trigger guy Nacks thing and steamboat Willie. It's it's just got this really beautiful and like it's all it's all

like this is a small team. It's not like there's there's very little animation or anything, but like the character portraits are just they're just gorgeous, like they're so so lovely, and you're kind of like, you know, going through it and you're engaging in these turn based battles, and it's got this kind of like the elements in it aren't like fire or ice or anything.

It's rock paper scissors, and you have to look at enemies and discern what type they are based on their hand position, and it gets kind of tricky and kind of fun with that in some weird ways. And it's a very cute game, you know, like it's got some real I don't want to invoke Undertail, okay if you're someone out look, and just to be clear, I am an unapologetic Undertail lover. One of my favorite games ever, but it's definitely I just don't want to be reductive when describing this game,

but it's definitely like swiming in those waters, you know. And the way the time looping mechanics kind of play into it is that like say, you'll be walking down a hole and next thing, a boulder crushes you and kills you. You automatically loop every time you die, and you get to choose which points in time you go back to, and it's like it gets kind of interesting with that, especially in terms of like, fuck, what do

I do differently now to beat this boss. I think it's a cool game, but I also find it's kind of one of those game where sometimes I think I find myself wanting to enjoy it more than I'm actually enjoying it. Oh you know that kind of way where there's like a lot aesthetically and in concept. I really love about it, But I think for me, two

of its big problems are the time looping. It sort of feels quite clunky to me in that you're not actually making decisions about what to do differently, at least not at the stage where I'm at, and I'm about like five or six hours in at this point, and it's more like you're not really making any like mechanical or gameplay choices. It's just you are moving forward in the story, and the story just happens to be going backwards, you know,

that kind of way, which I was a little disappointed by. But then as well, what it results in is a lot of very repetitive sections. So like you'll go to a floor in the dungeon, and there's certain things you can do to alleviate it, but you will find yourself having to find the same keys on this floor, having to fight the same boss battles. Ye, And it's like, oh this, like the the battles are they're they're kind of fun and like they're kind of interesting, but I'm not

sure they really have the depth to support that repetition. And then on top of that as well, the writing is cute and the characters are great. The characters are why you are playing this game. You play like like just like a bunch of little dudes, and they're really fun and they're really cute. But I think the team who made this is obviously like very passionate about them. But I think sometimes that manifests in like the dialogue just going on

and on and on. Sure, and sometimes it'll be like, oh, I'll click on this suit of armor and then you get a very long exchange between your characters, some of which are great, Like the game has got a few laughs out of me, like it's it's it's definitely done that. But then sometimes you're kind of like, I really just want to progress this and this is taking a long time. You know, huh, that's uh,

it's interesting. It seems like a really tremendous overall sort of effort with a couple things that maybe need to be refined with which is what you broughab you know, you sometimes just get with like a small team right where it's like, yeah, for sure, and like I would like I'm going to keep going with this game, and like I might turn around on it dramatically. I might be like, oh my god, they have totally justified everything

they've done. They've paid the stuff so well. But it's also like, outside of my own opinion, I can tell that this is a game people really really give a shit about, and so like, if the positive parts I've highlighted sound like they're your thing, I would really encourage you to go try this game because it does have a lot of cool shit going for it and I really want to be run over by it, and there's still room for that to happen. So yeah, it's it's cool. It's I have

my problems with it. It's it's a cool game. It's got an overwhelmingly positive on Steam. Uh yeah, and like and just like huge, like it seems to have like a very very passionate fan community. There's so much like fan art of all the characters already, and it's it's it's it's cool. Like it's there's a there's a lot to like about it, and like I yeah, again, I wouldn't take my criticisms of it at face if

it sounds like this might be kind of your thing. I'm a sucker for anything in black and white, So I think I might check this out. Oh No, I think I get real kind of chickory kind of energy from it, Like it has that bounciness to it, you know. So I think I think you could. You might dig it. Jen speaking about like kind of forcing yourself to really like a game, or wanting to like it more than you actually do, That's kind of how I felt last year about

Void Strangers. It's like small Soca Bond style puzzle game. So I have also been playing Void Stranger. Oh hell yeah? Is that the other game we're going to talk about? No, no, it's not, but we can talk about it because that is a weird game. Yeah. It makes me feel stupid in not that I can't figure out the puzzles, because I can if I bang my head against them enough. Eventually I can just tell there's bigger shit going on at that game, and I can't quite get in

there, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, oh yeah, all the time. Anytime I'll progress to like I guess a floor completed or a chapter completed where you get the save point I keep thinking of, like, all right, I should just take the break like it wants me to, so I can see the other stuff going on underneath the hood. But sometimes I'll skip it and I'll think, oh, shit, well, there's probably a huge story beat that I just mist because like, there's it's weird,

it's really weird. It's saying it's weird and really weird isn't enough to convey the fun things going on outside of the Soca bond style puzzle game. Yeah, and it's It's one of those games it's difficult to talk about because some of the spoilers in it are so mechanical and like, I've recently figured out I can do the craziest fucking thing. And have you gotten to the end of that game or no? We'll say, Okay, I have and it

was worth it. It was great. But even then I have reached an ending and I can tell there is way more weird shit going on here, and I'm kind of like, I'm kind of looking at the game and I'm like, what what do you want from me? I can only move a block back and forth, so many times this does look really oh and different when one of the best soundtracks of last year in such an incredible soundtrack.

The other game I wanted to mention real quick was just I've been going back in time and playing a little I believe Valkyrie profile for the PlayStation one, and I have not played like a huge amount of it, but I was

absolutely blown away by the production values of that thing. If people don't know, it's like a very very two D looking game, has this really unique combat system that I think was like the main inspiration behind Invincible, the Yes Schoolgirls Guys or pg's game, and just like I saw some gifts gifts of it, and I was like, what the fuck. I have never seen anything that looks like this, and it's like it is the most opulent JORPG coming from like that just golden era of JRPGs. Thank you, thank you?

All right, all right, video says yeah, no, I know I want them want to hear that in there. Yeah, And it's just it's been a treat and I cannot wait. I cannot wait to spend more time with it. And I would just encourage people like, if you've never heard of this game, but you like PS one r P j RPGs, I just look up some screenshots or some gifts of this thing, because it

is absolutely stunning, Like it's so gorgeous. It's one of those PlayStation games where like you don't have to worry about it looking like a PlayStation game, right, yeah, because it's all sprites. Yeah, it's one of those PlayStation games. It looks like a Saturn game. Yeah, where you're like, oh, it's just gonna be like hell. Specific compliments Jeff Grope and I really appreciate it. It's true. Yeah, they're like, yeah, it's like, oh yeah, we could still do two D on the PlayStation

and actually super good, Like why why aren't we doing this right? Yeah, you know, this is it's important to call that out. It looks like it does remind someone who had never played Valkyrie profile. For me, the touch stow would be a Golden Sun, but this is like goes way harder than even Golden Sun does. So yeah, golden good looking game,

Yes it does. It's got a real vibe to it, real style, especially in those like those panning camera shots around the sprites and the sprites like a just depending on where the camera is, and it's something like a little bit ugly about it, but in a really fascinating way. Yeah, it's a game where like you can nearly feel them break what. Yeah, sprite Works sp is like sprite Works are meant to be, And it's just it's

really interesting. Has a lot of interesting like gameplay stuff as well. Has this kind of story where you are basically this valkyrie descended from Heaven because there's like a war up in Heaven and so you're trying to fix all the problems down on Earth and your crew all these different people. But then you have

to send those warriors up to Heaven. But when you do, you can no longer use them on Earth. It's fucking it's bizarre, but it's it's cool, and I haven't played a whole lot of it, but I'm looking forward to playing more. Apparently there's a version of Is there a version of this game on mobile too? Oh? Probably, I believe it. This one on plate the PlayStation store that is regularly goes on sale. Cool god PS one such a such a fun haven of j RPG's that and the Nintendo

DS. Oh my god, a bunch of weird good ship on that. But that's not news to anyone, but this is news for everyone. Quick question. I don't know if this is coffee or wine in this mug? But one one way to find out, Yeah, you have to sip smelling. It smells like it smells like an alkipev you got wine? Yo? I hey, I just moved. I don't have glasses of wine. Like pouring out ball jars filled with nails and being like, I guess this will do. Yeah? Yeah, coffee ferment, you think it probably just go

stale. Yeah, there's a lot of acid in there. Maybe it wouldn't. Maybe it would kill a lot of the bacteria, so would have a hard time fermenting. That's what. Don't don't let your coffee ferment. If that starts happening, just throw it out, chan you can. Coffee can mold, I think, oh everything can mold. Yeah, before before any of the good fermentation, it molds and then it's just like garbage. Oh my god, I don't want to I know where about the gumps in the

news. So it's just the man, all right. So I really like cottage cheese. It's no secret. Is that harding? You're talking something about something going moldy, And you know, when a break happens, things get left in the back of the fridge, and of course you know, before you know it, you got a tub of cottage cheese that's getting ideas of its own and trying to get, you know, escape, negotiate exactly. It's like the lobster. It's like the lobster tail in the fridge on the

on the bebop. This was so deeply upsetting that like I went and grabbed a mask because I like accidentally opened the lid and just demons escaped like a la Ghostbusters where you're just like, oh, they're in the atmosphere now all we're in for it, you know that kind of thing. Woof it was. It was from like Thanksgiving or something, which is not that long ago, but still cheese time. Yeah, it's like inception, right, Like for a minute of normal food time is six years in cottage cheese time.

It's like a kind of cheese is already like listen, we fucked up some milk, all right, and then on the edge you got a couple of days, all right, enjoy it. Yeah, times running out, hot shot, eat up all right news. The first one here I don't have written down because it just happened while we're doing the show, but uh, hey, jan that that Pokemon with guns game Power World. What Pokemon with

guns? What if Pokemon had a fucking gun? Well, guess what we'll find out what that means on January nineteenth, how Power World comes out. I think this is also the one that had like cows on conveyor belt? Is my month? I guess January, everybody, it's Jane's time. Uh this uh this game, We'll check it out. I mean, because honestly, I remember the trailer for this being so buck wild that even when I saw the Pokemon with guns, I'm like, I still like, don't know

what's going to happen in this game, So we'll figure it out. First. I am seeing a yellow Totoro with a mini gun, and were I them? I think we got a bit of a Liza Peace situation here where they're going to go to jail for this is that is just Totoro And it's only a case of when, well, yeah, I didn't go to the bail you to get them out. Really you'll you'll be a partner in crime. Listen, they didn't go to jail for NTSC World, They're sure should

not going over jail for Power for this lead jokes are fifty hurts. Oh my god, Wow, that was good. Yeah. Oh wait right real quick though. The last game I've been playing, and I'm not happy about this. You have to play music? Okay, okay, what do we got? I read downloaded Pokemon and then to play the DLC. No fuck that. I'm not interested in that ship at all. Uh, just just just to play competitive Pokemon, okay. Okay. You know, I don't

know why you go to these meetings if you're just gonna relapse. Okay, what we're doing? Yo? Okay, I just need I just thought of the stupidest fucking team in the world that isn't on the meta, and I just need a really fast Dodrio anyway, Jeff Grebb, go on, John, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to drag you into what. Could you just give us a twenty second? What's the current Pokemon meta? Okay, so the current Pokemon meta just use all the legendaries, is basically it because of

the current rule set. But if you want to be dumb and stupid like me, you go get the weird little Freaks. Actually don't, but you get the weird little Freaks and the gen one freaks. So the thing is, Dodrio is a very fast bird. And can set a lot of oh we all know that can set a lot of speed based stuff. So you get that bad boy going, and then everyone's like, what the fuck why do you have that out? Uh? Your tailwind? You get a fuck what is it called? It's the item that you basically, John, what

you got to do. You got to pull out Gen one strategies on all these hoes that are thinking like, oh, just use my gold dango and then my iron hands to do this and follow me and Orlander's theory and form fuck that shit. Get your old weird three headed bird. Have it set tail? When have it have a focus ash and you struggle against these ho's. Hell yeah, a gold dingo ate my baby. Sorry, I couldn't get that on my head. I could not get that out of my head.

All right, I'm gonna get us back on track here and far far away from Pokemon at least for now. Xbox and bethes the Developer Direct event has been confirmed for January eighteenth. Xbox and Pthesta will host this Developer Direct

on that day. They've confirmed some of the games that will be there, including Indiana Jones from Machine Games Avowed are a History Untold, which is a let's see Oxide Games, the studio founded by veterans of the strategy genre and the creators behind classic strategy games including Civilization five, as the unveil new exclusive gameplay and share more details about their historical grand strategy game. There we go, That's what I was looking for. And then Sinuous Saga Hellblay two nich

Theory is gonna give us some updates there. I expect we'll get a date for that. That sounds that sounds like a little bit overdue in fact, So that's interesting. This is where they basically last year Shadow dropped High Fi Rush. Oh that's right, so they and they kind of did a similar thing like hey we got Pire's what's what you can expect, so don't expect

anything more. And then they Shadow dropped High Fi Rush. So anything less than another Shadow Drop game of that caliber is going to be a disappointment for me. Absolutely, Yeah, I would expect maybe probably be disappointed. I don't know, I haven't heard anything, but it just seems like I think

they were like High Fi Rush was a good experiment. I don't know if they're going to do that again that soon with another game, but hey, they might for avowed you cowards, make that game done, just finish out. This is the first one of these events that were getting from one of these companies in twenty twenty four. It is the one I was I heard was coming up the fastest. But you can always count on an Inintendo direct in February. It's almost certainly going to happen in February again. And then

that leads a question about state of play. There is a state of play coming, There's a state of play coming when exactly, I'm not sure, but I would expect it in the next few weeks. It's the state of plays are always weird, man. You always get the sensus like, oh, these are just contractual obligations. They just told a company, hey, we would give you free marketing, so they have to feel need that they have to do it. So they could always be very disappointing and and hurt

you. But is there a specific kind of hurt you're worried about, jan just a general hurt? Okay, the general hurt then yes, that's very likely. But yes, like that just never goes away. Yeah, yeah, you gotta win a love with nuts. That's what's what the painkillers are for. Donka Basis has hell Divers too. That's yes, we'll probably get updates on that, dates on something like that. And then they got to set up the rest of their year. They probably have some surprises. A

State of Play would be a great place to show that stuff off. So yeah, state of Play relatively soon, direct relatively soon, and then this next week on the eighteenth, Cool next Up. Xbox is going to release an acclaimed game on other platforms, or so, it's claimed by Nathan Haytover on his podcast. He said in a claim game that when it came out, was in Game of the Year talk. He didn't specify a lot of a Speculation has pointed toward High Fi Rush potentially coming to the Switch, maybe

the PlayStation. Uh I this one I can't confirm, but that sounds reasonable to me. What do you guys think? Would you guys play High Fight Rush again on Switch? Sure? Like that game of one? No, I would not play it again. No, I guess you were playing it for the first time and the switch was an option? Certainly certain you a High Fire Rush hater? Jeff, No, No, is that what you? Extreme? Hates music? He hates us? It is? Yeah, No, I enjoy music. And I enjoy High Fire Rush exclusively. I

think I just don't need to play that game again. I think it may be outstayed. It's it's sort of like one trick pony, welcome with me and no that's not that's not me. Wow, it's not what we're doing here, friends, We're we're speaking highly of that game. I just, you know, like I, but I do think it is crazy that no one else can play that so happy to see it on other platforms. You didn't like this playing to the beat, so now you just want to beat

down the game, you know. Not that I like to side with Jeff too often here, but am I will say that a certain part of High Fi Rush to me felt like Puocy the dog from the Simpsons. But what Ironically it's unfair I have been I have been bound from several podcasts and twitch streams for voicing my opinions on High Fi. I could see. I get that this is no different, so it was great to be here now.

But I do want to thank you all for having me. So that's why you asked if I was hating on it, so you could like weasele your way in and just sort of like you knock them up. Like we're both very vocal about just not liking the game. Isn't that right? Jeff? Your words, not mine? Friend? I really enjoyed it. I was not head over heels for it. I like the game a lot. I

like the characters even more though. That's the thing. That's that's why that opinion is so offensive to me. I like the Black Keys, yes, and the Black Keys are great. Wasn't was Northeast one weird really weird band in it? Uh? Wasn't it? Like? What's it? It was like a was it the yodeling band? No? Nine inch Downs, no Zwanswan? Yeah? Okay, yeah remember Zwan? I don't isn't that like

I remember the Black Keys? Let me think of are they the ones that did the covers of all the songs that were like really close or that. I don't know, I don't know. It's possible anyway, anyway, Yeah, this is this is probably going other platforms. We'll see, I'll say. And here's the next story. See if Thieves could be released for PlayStation and switch. I talked about this a game this morning yesterday. This is

the one I heard was going to be going to other platforms. Uh. And right after I talked about this, Steven Tatilla posted the report of his own saying the exact same thing. Basically he's heard for PlayStation and I'll just say I heard they were considering it, considering putting it out on other platforms, and they looked at both PlayStation and switch. Who knows what will actually happen or if it will happen. Does the way I've heard it is it

probably is happening. And for a live service game, it makes a lot of sense. You want as many people playing those things as possible. So CF Thieves had a long run on PC and Xbox, why not put it on on PlayStation, give a whole new audience a chance to reinvigorate that game. They've invested a lot in it. Why not trying to keep it going. So we'll see c if Thieves is one I like, but I have not checked back in on quite some time. So I like that Monkey Island

stuff. Yeah, that was fun, that's right. That is the last time I played that. That was neat. In Vidia is slightly resetting its GPU pricing. This is some CEES news, and and Nvidia is introducing the RTX forty series Super GPUs that starts with the forty eighty Super at one thousand dollars, which is going to replace the RTX forty eighty. It's got about a performance a bump of about one to five percent. Really though, this is about, hey, that thing is no longer twelve hundred dollars, it's

one thousand dollars. It's then being like, hey, we recognize we got way too big for our breaches with this. We pushed it too far. We're gonna scale it back a little bit. They still have taken a lot of profits with their GPUs over the last several years, where it's like cards

like this would have been five hundred dollars a few generations ago. So it's still like, you know, twice as expensive as what they used to be going for may maybe six hundred dollars, six hundred, seven hundred, but yeah, so they're still charging one thousand dollars for it, but that is much better than what it was. There's also the forty seventy TI Super, so it's a TI and a Super and that's gonna be eight hundred dollars,

just like the forty seventy Ti was. But they should have a significant improvement, and then the forty seventy Super will be six hundred dollars same as the forty seventy and that's also gonna that's gonna have a fifteen percent performance bump. I feel like, are you thinking this grub that seems like them the sort of like budget conscious, biggest bang for your buck kind of purchase. Yeah, series A forty seventy Super, it's gonna get you pretty close to like

thirty eighty TI levels. That's pretty good for six hundred dollars. It's got again, like six hundred dollars never would have been the budget card a few Yeah, I know a few generations go, so it's really hard to say that, but people are willing to spend this money on it. I think what like the hardware enthusiast scene got so out of hand the last few years, and they got like, they got the audience so horny for these cards,

even though there's not a lot to be horny about that. I think these companies just realize we can mark these things up and now everyone has to kind of continue paying the price. They are going to keep the forty seventy TI non Super around. They're going to oh I'm sorry. No, they're facing that one out and they're keeping the forty seventy Vanilla, but they're gonna drop the price down to five point fifty. So yeah, there no price

change on the ninety. No. I think the ninety is just a thing of its own, its own beast, and they're not a million dollars, just going to be what it is. So yeah, yeah, Listen, if I were to get one of these cards, if I was ready to upgrade, I probably would go for the forty seventy t I Super eight eight

hundred dollars. That seems like a pretty good space to be in. That's going to be better than a thirty ninety, which was fifteen hundred dollars when it came out, So when you look at it through that lens, that's pretty good. But hopefully what this means is when we get the real the fifty series, we're kind of still in this price range and it doesn't go up up much from here. That would be the ideal scenario, and I think that's what they're setting up a little bit, all right. The MSI

Claw another CS announcement. This is basically a competitor to the Steam Deck. The a sus Rock Ally, except for it's going to use an Intel component, and now we've got to confirm that it's Intel. It will have it. It will start at six seven hundred dollars with an Intel Core Ultra five.

There will be more expensive model that uses the Intel Core Ultra seven of sixteen gigabytes, a ram A seven inch screen, ten ADP one hundred and twenty hertz, the things that you are probably used to if you have an Ally or even a Steam deck o let at this point. But yeah, it's gonna be really interesting to see how Intel competes in this space. This handheld computer has a much bigger battery than the Ally, which you could say, hey, that'd be great. The Ally only lasts like forty five minutes.

Anything will be better than that. The big question with this is going to be how efficient is that Intel part? Because the AMD parts have been beating Intel in terms of efficiency pound for pound for quite some time. Is Intel going to be able to come in and match that and then get some more battery life? Hopefully? But I'm gonna be curious to see for myself. I mean, I saw this leak out a couple of days ago, and ever since you showed me that Lesion go in LA I just could not

stop laughing. I was just sort of like, what is this, you know, nuclear suitcase that you're dragging around with you? And everything I see now is like, well, you can't. I don't want anything as bad as that, right, I don't want anything as horrifying as that. And I don't know, I think just again, I'm totally judging books by their cover here, but I'm very interested in this one. Yeah, I mean, I think it's going to be very similar in terms of like ergonomics profiling

to a Ally. I think it's probably have a similar weight, a similar feel, and that's fine. I think that's a fine The Ally's a fine device for that stuff. I hate windows, but this is going to have windows as well. Just yeah, I'm at the very least, it is very good that Intel is kind of rushing into the space to keep competition high

and kind of have them hopefully leapfrog one another. Intel needs to be in the space because they have dominated gaming laptops for years and years, and that feels like it is going to slowly erode in favor of these handheld gaming computers that people are favoring at the moment. Obviously it's still a niche audience, but it's just going to keep growing, and Intel's going to need to be in that space if they want to have any chance of continuing to sell as

many CPUs as they have been in the past. Really would love I know the numbers are going to be small, but I really would love to get data on sales for all these computers. I think the MSI Claw is not gonna do well. You know why. It's too many events on that bad boy, too many points of entry for cheeto crumbs and dorito dust. Mm hmmm, it's uh yeah, the designs on these are are still kind of figuring that stuff out. I don't know, but we'll see. I will

be very interest. I'm gonna talk to MSI. Hopefully we will get one so we could do some stuff with it. If not, I might just pick one up because it'd be nice to have all of them so we can do some comparisons in the future. But yeah, I'm interested in this thing. I imagine a near future, Jeff Greb where you have a tool belt and all this tool belt hell is not any tools, but just different handheld computers. It would already be like capacity and I'm getting that I oneo slide,

the one that has to slide out keyboard underneath. I'm so excited about that because sidekick, Yes, you get it. Yeah, we gotta go back, man, we gotta go back to the sidekick, all right. Sony and Honda demo a dual sense dual sense control mechanism for a car. So basically, drive a one of the Honda's electric vehicles with a dual sense. Uh. Yeah, this is just a tech demo. They're probably not

gonna ship with this. I don't think. I don't know something about that's crazy, but I suppose it might be pretty good for like accessibility, accessibility, Yeah, that's like, yeah, that's really neat for that totally. I don't think, Yeah, you're not going to see this inside as a version for cars, right, like right, And even though like the one that yeah, I think cam in Texasys they said it was a work and

not a shoot. Yet you knew it was a working out of shoot because the guy was standing on stage and there was no one inside the vehicle and he pretended to be driving it onto the stage. And I'm just like they would never legally let them do that the venue would not let them do that. There's no way that that's Is this another CS thing? Is it is? Yes, Sony's keynote? Missing out this year? Guys am, I'm really missing out this. I'm so sorry, bakalar. I. Honestly I

couldn't even sleep last night because of the Foe movel was so overwhelming. You guys, my god, couldn't you send yourself to CES in a fridge? What do you mean? No? Just like guys, I'm gonna go to CS. Oh sure, I guess I could have just like you know, gone and booked it and went. But no, on principle never again. I'm trying to never go to Las Vegas ever again, let alone CES. But what if the Game of the Year was in Vegas? Huh? You

just guaranteed we're gonna be back there soon. But I guess there are exceptions to every rule. But I will fight, kicking and screaming in a way I have never put my foot down before. Las Vegas is a nightmare city. It's like cheap though compared to like La. Everything you're saying is exactly cheap. Everything you're saying is exactly how I feel about La and five years ago, I said I'm never going back to that hill city, and I've been back four times. Yep, Okay, back hear me out here.

Imagine we all buy tickets to whatever show, but we all watch it inside the sphere. Yeah, rent the sphere. No, I've the sphere does not impress me. Okay, I don't know that inside back of That's it. I've heard enough. I just don't need to go there. Where's this idea that Vegas is somehow cheap? What are you talking about? It's of course it's cheap. Hope. They're like because they want to get like if you're going there to like get a hotel, they want you to get a

hotel so you lose all your money gambling. So all the hotel rooms are like pretty affordable. Flights into the city, yes, they subsidized flights in, and hotel rooms are are relatively reasonable. And then the worst thing else the restaurants, because like you just avoid like the I suppose Michelin Star restaurants and go to like a White Lotus or whatever, that Thai restaurant that's like off the strip and it's got some of the best time food you've ever had.

But it's affordable. I've spent many months of my life in Las Vegas. I'm not proud of it. I mean, look, it's thankfully it's never been on my own dime. So that lotus of siam, thank you, Izzy, thank you is isy. That's right. Uh so yeah, again, let's avoid Las Vegas. Uh La is is tougher to avoid because it's slightly more important than Las Vegas. Sure, okay on the scale. Uh all right. Just Seanna says I haven't been there in ten years, it's let me be how old as emmy. I've been there in six years,

So that's what it is. The last time I was there was CS twenty twenty where everyone was like getting sick. It was weird. Everyone was getting aim just like, what's going on? That's going on? I can't remember that C yes where they were like because I was like listening to NPR, so it was like, man, shit's going down in China, and I'm like I think I can do see yes, And then you guys all went, I'm like, okay, well have fun with that. Yeah.

I mean I've managed to dodge bullets coming out of that show. But it was definitely you know, hindsight's a little obviously twenty twenty there, but you could tell something was going on the last couple of stories here. Yes, Xbox confirms that it will banned players who upload sex clips from Balder's Gate three. They're just like, hey, yeah, it's in the game, but why am I even there? Yeah, exactly, But what's the point of this server? I pay for Xbox Live. God damn it, Well I

will. My art will not be censored. It's it's it's in the game. You could play it. But sex it's just gonna make these companies uncomfortable. As Manati points out, you could probably still upload a clip if you mowing down civilians in No Russian from Modern Warfare two or whatever it was. But yeah, that will not get you flagged. If this does. They've confirmed, like, this is not some automated system. Every single one of these that has gotten people banned has been reviewed by a human being. And

they think that they're being excessive or or they flouting the rules. Do they just not like the choice of the yeah person Likewise, yeah, they're like, no, no, Carlac, we only deal with shadow hard over here. That's probably what that is. You can't maybe maybe it's the fact that you can fuck a bear, yeah, or that they're not fucking the bear. The fucking the bear probably be interesting if Yeah, Okay, I feel like we're learning a lot about the the Xbox team here. Yeah, the

predilections of the State of Washington team over there, Christians only. Yes, it's all it's all a circle, baby, I'm telling you. Unity is planning an additional eighteen hundred workers to be cut from their jobs. That's twenty five percent of its workforce. Jeez, that is just massive. This is part of their continued Hey, everything else that we tried fucking sucked. We're just gonna go back to just doing the engine and we're really bad at this,

but you guys have to get fired instead. I believe that's the official name of the new strategy that they have going there. This is the company's fourth round of layoffs. They've done some pretty big ones before. I think the last biggest one was around ten percent of its workforce at that time. So, yes, they are still reeling and you thrat, hey, well,

is anyone going to take responsibility for this? Remember that John Richtello is on his way out, and he did exactly what the board of directors wanted him to do and got them a bunch of mergers and acquisitions and got them made them a lot of money, and that's all they care about. So Unity feels like it is just dying that slow death in front of us, and it will be. I'll be very surprised if it's a going concern in the way that anyone's using to make games in five to ten years. But

we'll see. Finally, Apple's thirty five hundred dollars Vision Pro headset launches in the US arm SORR. There's one more story off this. We'll get to that. The pro headset is launching in February. They could from that. It'll have two hundred and fifty six gigabytes of storage, it features a three D user interface. We started seeing commercials for it on TV, which is wild because it seems like it's just it's thirty five hundred dollars. It's meant

for developers. But I suppose they've done marketing campaigns for things that have been very expensive before and it's Apple, so it's kind of just that's how they view themselves. Any chance any of you guys are gonna pick this up? This is all about like, hey, controlling an Apple OS experience out in the world in front of you. I don't know, I don't know how appealing that is to you, guys. No, not at all. Nope.

I mean, I like, it's thirty five hundred dollars. This isn't like a you know, impulse buy different the vast majority of people except for John's, but I think, like, what what that was? Like a an throw under the bus. That's That's what I'm gonna do, Jeff. I'm gonna spend thirty five hundred dollars on a headset, put it on for five minutes, and be like, well that makes me sick, and then

just toss it in the garbage. Because this is because I avoid this because I sometimes invoice Jeff late and I forget and he has taken that as John has infinite money. Oh yeah, that's how I understand math to work and uh, you know, yeah, thirty five I would rather go on like a pretty nice vacation for that. What if you could go anywhere in the known universe in aal f oh right, yeah, and have it without getting on a plane, without getting on a plane, but have it possibly make

me intensely nauseous. Oh it will make you sick. Yeah, Wallace, your grant will be with you though, so yes, yeah, all right, now you're talking about language. It's it's just crazy. Uh, it's crazy. And I feel like there's just no good way to rationalize making with the people who do pony up this kind of money for this thing. There is just a war coming between us and the people who buy this. And I'm sorry if you're in that side of the camp. We don't like you.

We think you're stupid, and we hate you. Has pro in the name. So eventually let's have a vision headset and that'll be affordable. This is just for the pros, the professionals. This is the most pro ass product ever, let me tell you. But Apple, if you want to send one, I'll take it. There you go. Uh yeah, we'll check. We'll check it out if you send us one. Are they even

doing that? Like, are they even setting I mean I'm assuming they're sending out review models like the people they work with regularly, like they're trusted. No for sure, but like I'm NKBHD will get one and like you know, all these guys but like no buy Yeah, it's just wild to me.

Like I wonder, I just wonder, oh man, back at seeing it, but like they would have like a very big product thing, it was always this fucking little, like you know, territory, little pissing match and everyone being like, well I should be the one to fucking look at this thing, and it's just like, oh God, I can't imagine we had thirty five goggle. I will. I'll read the reviews for this, I'll watch the videos, and that'll be fine for me. I'm happy with

my Meda Quest three that's got passed through. I'll be fine with too. I haven't even gotten it yet, and I'm much happier with that. Finally, sag After signs deal with voiceover studio for AI use in video games. I don't have the details here. Who put this here? I put it here because I just I saw it, so I don't know. You want to read it, like, let's read it together, Yeah, let's read

it together. Sag After signed a deal on Tuesday. This is all from Variety on a deal on Tuesday with an AI voiceover studio that sets terms for the use of artificial intelligence video games. The Union announced to deal with Replica Studios on Tuesday at cs damn you see us? Is there any news you will not break? The union's executive director said that terms include informed consent for the use of AI to create digital voice replicas, as well as requirements for

the safe storage of digital assets. At a press conference, Crabtree Ireland, what is that? John? Oh? Well, Jeff, like all businesses in Ireland, I have an encyclopedic knowledge of what this is now each other. Yeah, look, there's like there's four people. It's me, it's a dwyre, it's maybe someone else and this guy Duncan Crabtree Ireland. Who's the union representative? It's us three, and then there's a president and that's it. Uh, mister Crabtree Dash Ireland said these are the kind of terms

that producers can agree to without disrupting their ability to make content. This is an evolutionary step forward. AI technolo technology is not something we can block, it's not something we can stop. That's not a tactic or a strategy that's ever worked for labor in the past. Well, this sounds very anti labor as being a labor representative anyway. Uh, yeah, that's that's the story they've Yeah, I'm sure that guy run in my union. Well we tried,

but you it was hard. I wonder if he's like I, because the idea with like AI in filmmaking right now is if the writers want to use it, they can use it, but the studios can't use it to replace writers. It's like, oh yeah, that sounds sir, that sounds strong with me. I mean, the writers shouldn't use it's going to give

you some shitty work, but they want to do some shortcuts whatever. It's important to note here that like this is just announcing I believe a deal with a single voiceover studio, right, so this is this Replica studio that is launching that has launched an AI platform back in twenty nineteen. So they Variety is reporting that seg after after A signed a deal with this specific voiceover studio for AI use in video games. All right, we'll see it. We'll

see if that spreads to any other studios or industry wide. Fair enough, all right, that does it for the news. My favorite CES memory is listening to uh the the Beast cast and back while you were complaining about being really dry in Las Vegas and people told you just like fell up the bath and that would humidify the room and You're like, that doesn't happen, And I'm like, what the fuck is this guy? Evaporation? Is it real? Now? Back alt is but it's like, oh god, I remember

that it didn't work. It didn't work in a way that like a humidifier next to your bed would work. Yeah, I imagine in Las Vegas it probably wouldn't work. But like whenever I leave the bath full after like the kid's bath in my house, like the whole upstairs feels like it is a jungle a song. But Las Vegas is dry enough. They probably actually fucking desert. Okay, it is a desert that they PLoP restaurants on top of, so air humidity has no shot. We didn't talk about Brian Cox.

Yeah, I don't want to say about this. Well, okay, explain like he just went over history of Tecan, specifically the history of the Mashimas. So Brian Cox say, so, what the hell is a devil? Jeene? I always wanted to hear that this is pretty great because I have a loose understanding of the Tecan, uh you know, sort of cannon because of a ranking thing we did a couple of years back. It's like the last year. No no, no, no, no, no, you

can't be. It can't be. Can't be. Uh So, I'm very excited to hear Brian Cox do this talk about like the perfect person for it, right yeah. The I've watched it a little bit of it here, and the whole trailer has a real air of like, Okay, Brian, we're just gonna do one more take and him turning around and being like the fuck we are? Hell yeah, I want the I want the outtakes of this. I want it to be exactly like the Orson Wells talking about the

wine or whatever the fuck that was. Oh hell yeah, this is so awesome. It's it's choice. Yeah, I mean it's that's the way it goes. A lot of times someone watched a TV show and they like, we should get them to talk about our game. We should get that. It's like Coachm's whole career right now, is I watched that TV show. I'm gonna go get that guy. He should be in my game. It's

been his career right yeah. Now begins my quest. Jeff Grubb h to to increase the we need to start collecting people like like Kojima, right Oh yeah, yeah, We'll start with John. We're starting with Yes, we'll scan everybody that comes to the GB at night from now on exactly. We're going to get Rachel Zegler on a Giant Bomb show in the near future. You are like sick and this is like one of the few messages you were able to send. Is I want to get Rachel Zegler on Giant Bomb.

I'm like, this guy's fucked up. Yes, I was, I am, and it's gonna happen. And we're gonna get Jason madd Zucus as well. Hell yeah, I would love that. You know who else we're gonna get? Uh, I don't know who's Who's Eddie Kingston, Eddie Eddie Kingston. He could probably get Eddie Kist. You know I would let him shoot, punch me and beat me up. Oh yeah, for sure, because I hope I would gain his respect afterwards. You guys, you guys watch

Wrestle Kingdom Middle watch. I saw that, I saw the person that popped up, and I was kind of very excited for the said person pop up. Mmm, okay, okay, I'm sorry, Joe, I'm sorry John, I'll be better better. Uh what okay? Should I check out that oct A Danielson match. Yeah, it's not. It's still not the dream much I want those two to have, but it's better than their last match. Okay, I am exercising incredible will to just leave it at that. But I since we since we have here, John, you know what,

we'll take a break and then we'll talk about some wrestling. Okay, all right, all right, we'll see you with some wrestling, some emails, and some some some other fun stuff after this break. All right, wrestling talk. We're gonna make this real quick, John, who's gonna the Royal Rumble? Not l A. Knight? Y? Well, he's in like the fatal four way for uh for the title against Roman, right, so

it's probably not gonna happen there. I hmm. I think l A. Knight is a tremendous upper mid carter and no further, damn, I think I think it's gonna be Dwayne. No, I can't, it can't be. But see, I can't. I can't see them doing I can't see them doing Cody versus Roman again. You don't think they're gonna finish the story? I think they will. I don't think this is going to be the WrestleMania it happens. Yeah, it doesn't seem like it right now. Yeah, man, and then see him punk is going to be set. So

yeah, I think I think it. I think it's rock and Roman. Honestly not saying that's what I want, but I think that's what's most likely. Okay, okay, grub grub, We're rumble is my favorite event of the year. Who do you think is winning? Oh? As soon as I saw it in chat from Happy Drama, Our Truth It's time again. Did you guys see the thing he did un raw last night? I've seen it. It was one of the best things I've ever seen. It's love

him. He is incredible. It's so good. It's about him joining the Judgment Day and it starts with him telling the story of how when he was a newborn baby and the doctor held him in his arms, he looked in the doctor's eyes and said, I want to join the Judgment Day. He's great. Back l Art. You would love Our Truth. Our Truth is the best I think I would I you guys have just ruined it for me. We ruined it. I don't know. I can't put my finger on

it. But something happened where I'm unable to even attempt to try to enjoy wrestling with. I think it was Dan. I think it was John. I think I think he just like he. He just comes in as this like know it all wrestling guy and like describe to me a worse person than a know it all wrestling guy. I don't, I don't know. I don't know. I can't, I can't put my finger on it. There was you guys. There was a time where I was like what Manati is

to Disney. I wasn't that, but I was certainly approaching it with E. C. W and Jeff. When we've watched when we've watched all of NIME, we're gonna start on wrestling. Okay, Look, you're one of the few p people I will go on that journey with. So yeah, well look forward to that. Is there a wrestling anime's many many face? All right, let's stop to kill me in his arm? Okay? And I looked him in the eyes, not totally. One day we'll be in

judgment day. That's pretty funny. It just keeps going from there and every bit littens so hard. Oh god, that's great. And it's a photoshop of the entire Judgment Day as babies with Our Truth in the background. Baby our Truth. It's really really good. Uh, you gotta protect Baby our Truth. But by all measures emails, Emil, someone tried to stump me with ECW trivia, Nil, says Jeff. What did e c W stand for before Extreme Championship Wrestling. I believe it was Eastern Oh, I think

because it was like all like Philly based. I think that's what I think. Yes, score one for the good guys. Sing ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding BombCast Giant Bomb is the email address to send your emails too. You can virtually send emails about any and everything. Uh. I recently had to unsubscribe us from an NBA listing for whatever reason we're part of. I didn't care to know about the Grizzlies anyway. First email comes from Tyler in Sioux Falls. See you false Sue Falls, Sue, Sue.

I don't know how to read Sue. I was gonna say San Diego. That's probably not right as the SD There you go, South Dakota, right, Sioux Falls, South Dakota. All right? Anyway, Yeah, Hey Bombers been a listener for well over a decade at this point, and I just had an experience that I had to share as I scream into the sky with frustration. It's my favorite activity. My best friend's birthday is coming up this week, so I thought i'd buy him my second best game of

the year, Alan Wake two parentheses versus like a Dragon Guy Den. Because I'm one of those weirdos, I go to the Epics store and pull up a game to which it says in library with no option to buy as a gift. This can't be right, I say to myself, but after a quick Google search, it apparently is. So I go to green Man Gaming, register an account, purchase it, and forward the email to my buddy, only for it did not work. I request the refund and move on

to my next avenue. After another Google search the Humble store after reactivating my account, I finally was able to purchase this gift from my friend, but now after great cost to my sanity and stress. So my question to you, find folk is why, after five years of Epic having a storefront, do they not have the option of gifting a game to a friend. Why do I have to slog through dog shit just to give a game I didn't have a problem with the Epic Store before tonight. But I have to say,

hey, fuck you, Epic Store. Maybe it's some more games, if you had the super user experience, if you made the user experience better. From Tyler and Seu Falls San Diego, Tyler, it's because the Epic Game Store is not a money making venture. Simply put, it is not. It is left in it has been left in disrepair. H it is it is. It represents a shell of functionality. Uh and it you know, I'm sure grub you can add on to this, but like that's not

what they have not decided to make that the priority. It could be. Yeah, I mean it's it's pretty much that simple, right, Like they invest in things that they think are going to move the needle, so they keep giving you free games, and even that doesn't move the needle all that much. So how much return on investment are they really going to get from enabling you to purchase games for your friends something that maybe one percent of people

actually engage in. It's that's not a good reason not to do it. But that is just the reality of the Epic Store. It was a bad idea from the beginning. It was always going to end up here for Epic. They if they were going to try to disrupt the market, they should have actually tried to do it with something that would have been disruptive instead of just trying to make an alternative that is the exact same but worse. Hey shot at them for publishing Alan Wake two. That was a cool idea.

Do more of that, do more stuff like that, and you got something. Their epic. The Epic store was just never going to be anything. Was it Epic that bought the mall to Yes? Okay, so they spent like a nine hundred million dollars on like a derelict mall or something that was for like offices, right, corporate that's their new offices. Yeah, okay, So they couldn't figure out how to open a store, so they just

bought a bunch of stores. That's right exactly. This hot dog and a stick is going to teach us about gifting, oh Man, Orange Julius all right. Next by watching where like strip malls and corporate suburban offices are going to be the next big US crash. Yeah, yes, strip malls up and slowly crashing for a long long time. Yeah, that thing, it's where you're at. But in a lot of places. Yeah, strip malls, traditional malls definitely, but like now all commercial real estate because everyone's locked

into their old contracts. So even though COVID happened, like everyone's started to keep paying their their their bills. But as soon as those contracts are up,

it's all gonna dip hard. But like think about in I don't know what it's like where you live, John, but in America, in suburban America, there are like these ten story free standing buildings in suburbia that are like corporate offices that are all like empty by the tens of thousands now, and they're just sort of sitting there with Yeah, so you can setting for a film or something. I don't know what you can do. Maybe they all become Tony Hawk levels. I have no idea. Oh okay, you

squeeze the remaining bit of because they can't turn it into housing. What they're gonna do is they're just gonna make it into like that VR little mall experience where you just go in and run around it with a VR helmet. I'm surprised they haven't become like warehouses, like you can only have so many spirit

Halloween stores. That's true too, right, you go down the priority LA found a limit yet jan So you don't know that, you know, like do something with them because they are everywhere, and they're hidden in plain side too. They've become such fixtures of the landscape that you don't even realize you're looking at them. I went to one of my derelict malls during the holiday break before I came down with the VID, and this specific mall was supposed

to get acquired by like med tech shit. And what's gonna happen to all the gigantic Christmas trees they used to go in malls. It's gonna happen to those? They still just keep them around? I mean, why not? Aren't they cut down every year? Isn't that what what you guys do? Don't you like cut down the tree every year? It was those ones, those huge ones, right, most of them have to be rock. But that's out really Oh yeah, yeah, that's real. Ship. I suppose

a lot of those probably are real. Huh yeah, yeah, they gotta all be real. Who's making a company of story Tree? Well, part part of me I thought like that would make more sense. But now, yeah, when you say it like that back, are you right? Huh, I guess it does have to be real. M hmm, okay, yeah, now I feel foolish, all right. Next email comes from d Hello. The sword on the title screen of the ne e S Zelda is some rapier looking sword. On the famicom cover of it, it appears below

the title text and the art bull Oh. The title link is drawn with his normal basic sword. The master sword didn't appear until what is LTTP Link to the past. Link to the past. So what gives is this Zelda sword? Sounds like Nintendo needs to get their fucking shit together. Yeah, I thought this. I thought this whole lore was supposed to make sense and go from game to game. It was all planned from the very beginning.

Is that right? That's the Master Sword. I was not technically in the Legend of Zelda, because there's a story that looks a lot like the Master Sword in there. I guess you power up your sword, but I don't know. None of that sounds right to me, but I don't remember. I just I don't want to pay attention to the story when I'm playing that game. I've actually gone through a big Legend of Zelda like concept our rabbit hole recently at all different concept. Man, it is real, like,

especially for something Linkednked to the Past. It is mind blowing to see what they wanted that world to be versus the compromises of it actually existing on a like you know, Super Nintendo two hundred and fifty six grid pixel grid, and it is just like, I'm like, I love Heading to the Past looks, but it is crazy to see just how expansive and like epic they wanted it to be. It's it's so cool. I love that stuff and I have no answer for this. Man. Yeah, let's just say yes,

that's Zelda's sword. Yes, yes, Yeah, Princess Peach as Yeah, Rapier in that new Princess Peach Showtime and they're gonna fight. They're both yes, show Time. Yes, she keeps that thang on her. A next email comes from Troy to your BombCast. Longtime caller, first time listener. My question is mainly for Dan, but anyone can help. I have never played a Castlevania game and was looking for where to start the series.

Oh geez. Also, I wanted to see what would be the best way to play this Castlevania game emulate by original hardware, by a collection on new hardware. I have a Switch Series X, analog pocket and PC. Also, we need to chancel Jan for thinking quark side up is the proper way to use a coaster. Best regards, Troy. Did you say chancel Jan? Yeah? Yeah, okay, so that's what we said. What happens when we want to cancel Jam, we jancel him. You know what,

Troy, there can't be a wrong side to a coaster. It's all cork. What about that you've done that? You're holding a Trivet and that's that's also a comically sized coaster. No money. That looks like the communion wafer. Yeah, it looks like Look look at all the beverages ACTU coast up. That's called a tray. That's called the trace. For one more, if you're got laser disc size for audio listeners, you have a tray in

your hand, not a single coaster. Come on, there's a part of me that really wants to move on to the next email and never return to the Castlevania I I don't know, Try the first one, then try Super Castlevania, and then if those don't register, go to Sympathy of the Night and yeah, you can emulate all those. You'll be just fine. Go

play the game boy. I would personally say the start with there's a Caslvani collection and it's Rondeau of Blood and Symphony of the Night Night, and just download that, play Rondeau of Blood, and then when that gets too hard, go play Symphony of the Night. That's a good plan. Mmmmmmmmm okay, all right. Next and last email of the show. A lot of spam in the inbucks so far. Sorry, that's that's my phone. It's okay, I use I use this as a burner email address as well.

Good but uh Chris from McComb, Michigan, twenty four mile represent Detroit. What go blue, Let's fucking go Sorry, I'm from mcomb that what happened is something important with Michigan sports happened over the weekend. Yeah. Yeah, they won the national championship last night. Yeah, congratulations. First national championship in like twenty six years. In the last one they had to share with Nebraska, the fucking dirty corn Huskers, which sounds like a slur. That's

what they call themselves. Yeah, I'm from Macomb's I went to to Sweitzer Elementary School and Mallow Junior High. Chris so shout outs to you, Michigan. I wish they could explain to you how little of what you just said makes sense to a non American. Of course, to John Bottom, I don't even make sense to many people. Yeah, I'm not that far behind you, John, I only got about like I said, I'm from twenty four mile road. Does not like that sounds like nonsense? Right? Yeah?

I mean which part like? How? Yeah? I don't know, is that like eight mile? It's exactly like you to get it, it's probably sixteen more right? Exactly? Is a grid? Every mile road is a mile apart? That's right? So yes, eight mile twenty four mile? Yep? Would you say McComb is Mahome? No? Absolutely not? Okay, all right, Well anyway, Chris writes in hey guys, after listening to many discussions here on the BombCast about the Analog Pocket, I decided

to pull the trigger and finally purchase one. I'm most excited to get the chance to go back and try out many of the game Boy and game Boy Advance games I never played as a kid. I was wondering, what are some games you recommend I should check out. Thanks for all the great content, Chris macombe, Michigan, well, I'll say the one I always say, getting game Boy Color Warlocked. It's like a real time strategy game, but somehow it works on the game Boy Color and you get to play so

various. Yeah, and it's got like different like colored wizards. So there's the Brown Wizard and he like controls chickens and shit, just like kind of like Lord of the Rings where it's like, oh, well, you get up to the White Wizard and he's like super powerful. It sounds racist, but it's not. It's just different row, different colored robes. Felcond time saying this in two segments. And yeah, yes, I love Rake Steppin.

Number one thing to do on this show. I will never stop singing the praises of Golden Sun. If you want to drive all the way into a fantastic RPG, check out Golden Son. There's also controversial take here the better Final Fantasy Tactics games. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance and Advance Too are available as well. Hell yeah, Stuntman, I made you play that in a uber. You know what. Oh, Stuntman's all right on that screen is really crizingly cool on a game Boy Advance, that version of stunt Man I

like it a lot. I would say that original Phoenix Rite trilogy on game Boy Advance sure stellar, and I I much prefer the pixel look to the modern look. I think. I think it looks way better, has way more impact. The Treasure Games, Gunstar Hero Good Star Heroes is great, and the Astro Boy game is also great. Well. Most of all, Mother three my second favorite game all of all time and just one of the kind of just perfect video games, is just absolutely amazing and I think everyone

should play that. And the Analytic pocket used to install the game Boy Advanced Cores and then you can get that translated ROM and play it on there perfectly. Yeah, it's a great translation. It's really good. Yeah. What was the big update? I saw a couple of headlines about it. They just said that it's the thirtieth anniversary and they will have things to announce, which almost certainly means merchandise and not anything else. But that's not a firmware

up that I was promised the firmware up. Oh I thought you talking about mother the firmware update. Yeah, yeah, they did some God I meant to dive into this. I can't remember the exact details of it though. Oh. Oh yeah, that's right. For all those cores that you could install, you can now apply the screen effects that the game that the analog Pocket came with that works when you put in a cartridge cool and now works

on all those cores. And they added another one that makes the screen look exactly like a Sony Trinatron CRT oh, which is uh, you know, in scientific parlance, shiit hot. It looks really good. I'm very excited to mess around with that. Thank you for reminding me about that. I'm gonna dive into that tonight. Sure, sure, I'm here for god. Yeah, oh man, And now like everyone can get one because they do

drop so frequently. Now, like that's right. Yes, yes, I didn't have to buy Alex's off of him, but god, you can go and play all the Pokemon games and all the ROM hacks too, like a really good rom hack of Emerald. Oh is there a good video out there that's just like, because I have all the I think I have all the what I need to do, I just want someone to like guide me through a pocket ownership. Oh sure, surely. Of course. Of course game core does has a couple of good videos on it. If you are like

trying to get the most out of it. Is that what you're asking? Yeah, like, I think I have everything I need. But you know, Oh, there's an NHL ninety four with twenty twenty four rosters. Ramak Watt, of course there is. Yeah, they do one every year. Oh that's cute. That's fucking cool. That's fun. Do that for technobol and the football roster too. Yeah, it's great. Okay, things are looking up. There's a no, I don't think that's possible anyway. That

does it for emails begrudgingly. We're gonna get to we're gonna get to the shoutouts. You could have just not done it and no one would have said anything. You'd be like, I got sick and I don't do that anymore. Yeah, I didn't do it last week and like no one noticed. It's all right. It's okay. If this one, we're gonna keep it twenty five. Maybe we'll keep it to ten. We're gonna have people fight. But shouts out to Jef Grubb forgetting me this job so he could have

one more way to make my life difficult. Love Sean shouts out to gavidon the two dimension. Two dimensional and most adorable. Kaiju shouts out to Jan for being annoyed by Doctor Handler's jokes, and he went out and found the real doctor Richard Handler. Okay, uh, Jana, Jeffy b Allen Wake is coming to Dead by Daylight January thirtieth. Yeah, I saw that's weird. Okay, Uh Link's link sword question? Is it maybe the magical sword found in the graveyard? Master using it? And you can have this the

weird old man who gives link swords. Well, excuse me, master sword. Uh, we are not flinching finish the story, Cody, you think you're so pretty, shouts out once again to Tanuki. Tanuki the dog and that is also a raccoon. Hey, nos, fuck you sticking out your gap for Macca the Rizzler. You are so Jan, Jan, you're so grub text. I just want to be your minati. What what the fuck does any of that mean? A God, you're so old back, You're

honestly, John, I'm lost, I'm lost, I'm lost. Thank you, I stand with you, John. Got Wait wait, do you guys know what a GIAT is? No? G y A T T Nope, so a fancy hotel. So when Jam walks in the room, he's wearing his tight pants and you want to go yacht. Damn the giachtas you just say giat. Now he's like, oh, he's got a giacht. I've seen it in a bunch of common sections and I never knew what it was. Now you do all right now? Finding out that has been the highlight

of my days over. I got to do the same thing with my family when I went there for Christmas. The kids. One of the kids said yacht and his mom was like, what is that? I'm like, you were like, well, you know when John walks into a room with no listen, listen, Okay, no one should have a different reaction than what I just had. If anyone that has a lesser reaction, they're just out of touch, right of course. Yeah, thank you, Jeff, though

was magic. I'm here for you, shouts out too in a way, aren't we all just Metroidvanias shouts out the grubs top ten Game of the Year list. Checked out some really cool games that I wouldn't have played otherwise, shouts out Mike, finally being able to openly promote his only fans you can find them at Dreamboat. Willie shouts out to pretty good though Darrow Season two confirmed. Shouts out to Kein Kuman and Weakly Jump, anime that is totally

about wrestling. Also shouts out to Grubs Internet search History checked out some really nice websites. He would have about that otherwise. Shouts out to Gasolina by Daddy Yankee. Also Jan bring back the giant bomb gym. There's never been a better time to battle Pokemon. Uh not shouts out to this one. Shouts out to Joe Koy for being a sore loser and no one laughing at his jokes while hosting the Golden Globes. Yuck, yo yo, Filipinos have

been set back thirty years of media. Now I have to leave Michael Climb and I'm ready to climb the ladder and make ourselves famous. Kid. But no, fucking Joe Koy had to ruin the shit for us. Did he really shit the bed? He's shit the bed hard and then rolled around it in doubled down? Who accused him of being funny? Before this was there?

Was there? Do people like him? I don't know, people liked him, and then we us as a community were like, hurry, maybe it's not cool that you're making fun of your mom's accent and it seems kind of mean spirited, and he was like, fuck you, guys, I'm gonna double down. I know, Scout. He's like, that's my whole thing. I know, Scout. Skinship doesn't always mean kinship anyway. That

dogs are so wise. I got that dog in me. Uh shouts out to how much anime does Beckler need to see before he's ready to watch the first Berserk anime? John? You you your mouth opened wide cloth? Jeff. I have back and forth it in my mind about Berserk for a while. It would lead us down some pots that I am not sure we're ready for it yet. That's fair. I mean, I trust your judgment. You've been my curator this this all this time. So I'm gonna I've never

seen Berserk. If you guys watch it, I will listen and watch along. That'll be nice. I think Lucy has said it's one of her favorite things. Yes, it is my favorite story of all time ever. Oh wow, oh okay, all right, and shouts out to meeps, gimmicks and viewers like you smiling face emoji, your boy Bacon Jan's drip is he cosplaying someone? It shouts out to White Wizards. Is that all right? Said? I said, John, you do look fantastic. I've been admiring

the outfit the entire podcast. It looks so comfy. Sorry, I don't know fashion, but you look nice. And when someone is like are you cosplaying something, that's when you know that you are. You are cooking and you're doing a good job. Thank you, sir, Thank you sir, and John, thank you for joining us today on the Giant BombCast. Want chitty chat about anything? Plug anything you want? My pleasure, guys. This this was a blast, Like genuinely, it's such a good times.

In terms of plug in, well, I do co host the and I'm sorry to our competition the greatest anime podcast of all time with one Jeff Backlar over here, with one at Lucy James and with one to more Who'ssein And you can find that and Giant Bomber any where you can get podcasts. I would recommend it personally. And to plug another thing, I recently started a podcast with my good friend Wooly Versus and it's called Versus Wolves and that has just been a delight And yeah, check it out. It's a we call

it the world the Universe's most powerful book club. It's not about books. Damn. Aren't we all a book though? Wow, that's what I've been saying, man, John, Where where is your knowledge on animorphs? I read myself. I think two animorph books back in the day, m and within the last year I have watched a full nineteen minute and a morph'slour video. Beautiful, beautiful. Okay. I'm not saying that you should do anything with it, but I feel like it should just be in the brain right

now, circular. Believe it or not, John, you are not even among the first five people to have asked me about that. That means I'm like around seven or something. Hell yeah, all right, all right, what else do we got going on for the rest of this week? We got a lot of stuff going on. Grubbing back. Yeah, let's see tomorrow Blake Club. Blake Club will happen. And here's what we're doing. If we can get it working, we are promising to beat the game tomorrow.

Wow. So we're just gonna play until it's done. The tricky part there is I got the new Xbox three sixty. I have not tested the disc yet. Mike insist on me testing the disc beforehand. I feel like that's content. We're definitely going to make content out of me moving the save from the ex of the old Xbox to the new one. So we'll see if that works, and if I have to start it over, we'll see. Do you think that's possible? Like it wouldn't work. Anything's possible,

but no, I think it's gonna work. I expect that to work. It's the kind of like everything is content, Grob. It's kind of very like we're going to use every part of the buffalo kind of thing that's right for it. I'm a huge Devar fan. I learned it from James Cameron. He taught me about treating the world with respectable well he's who, he's who came up with that, and it was his idea. Exactly Yeah,

that's yeah, exactly right. Uh. And then earlier in the day we'll be doing that GB plays a Pacific Drive and then even before that game this morning, so tune in for all that. In my feverish state when I when I had the VID and I was yelling at my partner through the door frame, so she kept a respectable safe distance away. She told me that I was rambling on for a good twenty minutes about how I'll never be in touch with Awa and an avatar thing. Of course, it's the avatar thing.

Jeff. Well, their god or something. Jeff, you don't see me. I see you, but you don't see me. It's like their tree god or something. Whatever. Also listens. Yeah, that was I'm uncomfortable. Now I'm racist against the nave. There you have it. Oh wow, who speaking of Jeff Jeff's bizarre adventure. Uh. Later this week, we are recording the finale to the Cowboy Bebop arc that we've been working on for. I don't what is it like most of last year, right

John? I think so yeah, yeah, something like that. Uh. That's gonna be exciting. And we're doing a special, uh sort of recording schedule just for that episode. So that's gonna be a lot of fun. And we've blocked out a great deal of time to knock that out. So I'm excited. And yeah, we'll have voicemail, dumb truck, we'll have a we'll play Prince of Persia on this website this week. Uh, and then like I said, BombCast Revenge on Friday, we will review that game,

and then we're gonna do a fantasy draft fantasy critic. So we're going to be getting the staff together as many people as possible. We're gonna draft some games and compete against each other in our knowledge of what we think is going to be a good video game the previous game of Skill. Instead of getting a trophy or a championship title, we should just get a golden spoon.

Oh that's a that's a good one. I like that. And then we need suggestions for the punishment for whoever comes in last place, So throw them out there, everybody cool. I'm sorry, I just read something in the chat. I'm not a racist, but does na vi all looks the same to me? Okay, there you go, anyway, say it. I didn't want to read the username. It just as Jeff Backler Jeff, this is coming from one j Backlar. Jerff Bacar is cool sixty nine.

Anyway. That has been another episode of the Giant Bomb Cast. I thank you for joining us. I've been Jay and he's been Jeff. He's been Jeff, he's been super eyepatch Wolf, and we will see you for another episode next week. Come on. The Giant BombCast is brought to you by not stopping your recording yet because we're going to do an end clap and end Deep I love you,