Two Girls One Ghost are Prepared for Possession

What's that.

It's spooky. I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, says hey boo, it's me Roz. Okay, I don't know if you can tell, but I am currently possessed by allergies. So I apologize for the way I sound, but don't worry. For the rest of the episode. Once we get into the main conversation, I will not sound so stuffed up. But oh my god, there's so much going on right now.

Now.

I don't know if you've heard, but ye girl, Roz is going to be doing a paranormal TV show. Shoh, well, actually I already did it. I already shot it. Not when the show went off air. That was not then. It was before. At the beginning of the year, I left for a couple of months and I shot the first ever all queer team of paranormal investigators. Actually it's funny because like having my show and talking so much about the paranormal and pop culture and queerness, this project

Hello, we're so happy to be here.

I was really tempted to do my y'a. I'll just do it right now.

Hello, Oh my god.

Bringing out my demon voice.

Should we all take a turn?

Hello? See I don't, I can't.

Hello, Oh, Corinne, Mine was high pitched. I had like three voices.

Yeah, you had multiple voices come through you just then.

I think that's a fun skill to have in life because I assume that when you're a ghost, you can pull that out and make people think that you're actually a demon.

Oh my gosh.

See theory number one with me. I think most of the time that you think that it's a demon, it really is somebody that can do great impressions, somebody that's spooky that wants to scare you. But it's really just like the ghost of a silly person. Yeah, I think demons are ghosts of silly people.

I like that take because normally when we hear about paranormal activity that involves a kid, I'm the first one to be like, it's a demon disguising itself as a child. So I like that You're you're flipping the script here a little bit.

Oh yeah, this is my first time meeting you guys, which is very exciting, and I wanted to spend this podcast sort of getting to know what you guys believe and your approach to this stuff.

I feel like the better question would be what we don't believe because that list is probably shorter.

So you guys are big believers overall.

Oh yeah, we need like a third party in our podcast, which is the hard skeptic, because that doesn't come easy to us.

We're on the cusp of like tinfoil hat conspiracies.

Okay, so now I'm that third party, I.

Think, right, you're more skeptical, yeah, which I have a question for you please. So because you have more of a skeptical approach, You've obviously heard a lot of ghost stories, you've experienced things yourself. But do you think that from talking to more people and hearing more people's experiences, that you're teetering more on the end of believing now or you still have that like really healthy skepticism.

It depends what the scenario is yeah, but I don't know. I do think that when you hear a lot of people's ghost stories, it does open your mind to possibilities, and I think it's good to hear patterns and different things that happen a lot. That is sort of how we form these ideas of what ghosts are. I think so much of it is this anecdotal evidence that we just collect and yeah, totally, and then that sort of

I think the rule that we tend to operate by is because we have both had personal experiences countless, we very much believe in the existence of something beyond the physicality of human beings and this realm. The universe is infinite, and we're very limited in terms of our knowledge, so I very much believe there's something more than we understand.

We also started this podcast six years ago being like, ghosts are real and ghosts are your energy living in some sort of like astral plane in between when you die and move on. And since then we've heard so many more theories as to what spirits could be that were really.

We don't know.

We have fewer answers than when we started because we're like, wait, maybe we don't know how the world works. Maybe we don't understand.

Yeah. We recently had someone tell us their spirit guides are demons. That flips the narrative of demon and demonic entities on its head completely.

Oh wow, their spirit guides are demons, So what are their spirit guides tell them to do? How do they guide them?

You know, violent acts, normal stuff?

Yeah, that's.

No, no, it's it's mostly positive and it's just Yeah, this is the coolest one I heard is that there was a demon spirit guide that helped absorb excess emotion, so if like they were experiencing too much sadness. They could give some of that pain and sadness to this demon.

The demon's like gimmy, gimmy yummy. Yeah yeah, oh wow. Interesting.

Instead of hormone monstrouses and stuff like that, they have like an emotion regulation demon, which I appreciate it. I could have used one of those. I still could use one of those.

Can we all?

Okay, so where are you at on demons? It seems like you believe in them.

My sister I believe was possessed really, and my dad I believe is kind of possessed. His is less of a demon. His is more of like a past life situation. But my sister one hundred percent was possessed. I do believe in demons or I believe in like really dark energy.

Uh huh.

Will tell the story because I think I guess you might believe this a little bit more once you hear what happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can theorize.

Okay, yeah, So this is maybe my most notable and most terrifying experience that I had, And most of my experiences happen in like an astral dream plane. I've actually traveled before, and I'm trying to actually explore it more now, but growing up, when I was like four, my sister was six, we moved into a new house. I'm from New Jersey, brand new build built on farmland. Were the first people to live there, and kind of right away when we moved in, I started having this reoccurring nightmare.

I hate when people are like, I need to tell you something yeah later, and it's like, okay.

No, no, no, no, I'm going to hyperfixate on this for the next seven hours until you tell me yeah.

I can't go rage After college graduation, parties with this knowledge or lack of knowledge, so he basically tells me that the dream that I shared wasn't a dream and that it happened in real life and I'm like, what the fuck? So I met up with him. He goes on to tell me that when we first moved into this house in New Jersey, he had fallen asleep on the couch one night and he woke up to like a really weird noise. He thought it was the TV.

Oh my god.

So yeah, Sabrina believes in demons I.

Believe in demons.

Okay, so let me just play skeptic.

Let's do it.

So he was talking about one night right, mm hmm. But you don't remember seeing him in your dream, right? No? Could it have been two different occurrences?

Yeah? Yeah, I mean I had that nightmare reoccurring, So it could have been many different occurrences.

It could have been a premonition. Maybe, Yeah, it.

Could have been a premonition. It could have been this dark entity was fighting over my sister for a long time, and even though they got the house blessed and nothing else like that happened, again, this dark entity continue to try to get my sister.

Were you a little bit jealous that I didn't want you?

That's a good question. I've never thought of that. We don't know that it didn't. To be fair, I might be that entity at this moment.

We don't know.

And it's like I'm finally telling my story. No, I don't think i'm jealous. I think I'm good.

Yeah, that's a tough situation if you do have jealousy, because you're like I want to be picked, but like I don't like but now I don't.

No, the jealousy will come if you end up being abducted by aliens. Ras that is true, that's Sabrina's number one goal. I don't understand it really, with everything that's been going on in the world and how many people are like, yeah, aliens are real. It could be a real possibility. It could be right around the corner.

Now, I think I want that too bad, and they know I'm too thirsty.

You're desperate, Yeah, I I want to be a jealous did I know what's going on here? But I don't know what's going on wherever they would take me. Yeah, but I feel like I'm at a point where I'd be willing to take the chance of just anything would be I'm fine with whatever else.

Let's go together.

I'm honestly down. You know what I've been thinking about lately. And I apologize that this is inappropriate because we just met. But how come in the nineties aliens were so into butt play.

There was a lot of probing.

I feel like all I ever heard about was them sticking things in people's butts. Yes, yeah, and nowadays you don't hear about it anymore. And that's what I'm curious. What are they into now?

That's a good question.

There's only one way to find out.

I'd also be curious to go and look at all those people who started that narrative and see how they live their lives.

Now, what if the aliens have just been so misunderstood all these years and they're actually helping these people and performing like colonoscopies and cleansing the bodies of some like toxins or of cancerous.

Things, getting rid of parasites.

Yeah, what if they're really saving us one but at a time it.

Could be I don't know. I'm willing to take my chances. Take me up there, let's go. Yeah, I'm still thinking about your sister being possessed by demons.

She's okay now, I mean growing up And this is also before I even knew the story. My sister was pretty mean to me. She was a problem child for my parents, so we used to joke that she was a demon. And now, like, looking back at it, I'm like, well, maybe maybe that demon did leave a little stain or something in her.

Little lingering energy. Well, and that's the thing, if one simple blessing got rid of them, they weren't like that strong of demons. Like they tried. They did their best.

Not good enough.

Yeah, although to pitch something for her. Perhaps that energy just migrated and attached to someone else in the house. My dad, Okay, yeah, there's something living in him. He's not alone in living in the vessel that is his body.

So do you think this whole time there's been a demon living in your father?

So my dad has been married three times that I know of, and my mom and his current wife have both separately said that my dad when he sleeps speaks another language, what language, an unknown language, and his current wife is Lithuanian. They live in Europe, like they know languages, and my dad does not speak any other language. He is a pathological liar, so he might I don't know. Maybe he's in the he's like undercover in the CIA

Does that make you jealous? No, Roz, Does it make you yes, there's such a part of me that's like, what's wrong with my body?

Well, maybe you live in harmony with your past lives.

Yeah, all your past lives lived to give you this life. Now.

I guess I just want a demon to look at me and be like I want to be that girl, and then I can be like.

No, I promise Roz, if I die anytime soon or before you, I will come to you as a demon. I will do what we said in the beginning of this episode, where I will pretend to be a demon and I will try to possess you.

Thank you. That's one of the seatest things anyone's ever said to me.

I know we just met, but I really mean it.

Tell me what you can about the Conjuring House, and you all going to the Conjuring House. Oh okay, okay, So.

We're doing a live tour. We're going to thirty two different cities. But we grounded the whole tour, or like, based the whole tour on the Conjuring House because it's kind of this place that's obviously super infamous now that the movies have existed, and us being paranormal enthusiasts, had heard the story of what happened in the Conjuring House before.

We just went full in, full in.

But we tried to treat it as more than just a ghost hunt and sort of do like a full investigation, just as you would if you're investigating and you look for different sources. So we interviewed various people who'd lived in the home, who knew about the home. We interviewed historians, and we just tried to collect a lot of information.

Did she talk about Andrew?

We're trying.

She did not respond to our Facebook messages, which apparently is the only way you can reach her.

Oh, I can text her. I love her, please. He's one of my favorite people ever. She's so fun and so funny, and anyone listening that doesn't know who we're talking about. Andrea Paron. She's been on this podcast a couple of times. She's the oldest daughter of the family. Like the movie The Conjuring is based on, and she's got store reads for days.

Yeah.

She told me a story that her mom in that house bit into an orange and blood started gushing out of it.

Oh my god.

Yeah, horrifying.

It is just like one of the many, many, many things that has happened in that house. They lived in it for like a long time.

Yeah.

Yeah, she like loves it, like she loves going back to it, and it's like her happy plays.

I mean, is a beautiful home. And we were both expecting to go into it and like immediately have really really bad vibes and feelings from it, especially just from the reputation it has publicly. But it was very peaceful.

It actually was. We felt very warm, yeah, and invited, which is the opposite of what a lot of people say in experience. And even when we were there, they were saying that the people who were investigating the night before us were experiencing a lot of contact and where it was really scary, and they stayed up until like eight am, kind of communicating with all these entities that were disturbed in the house.

I feel like that Lindsay Lohan song about like I'm sick of rumors starting, Like I feel like that's the conjuring house. Yeah, why won't they just let me live?

Right? I know, based on what we heard from the people who currently own the house and from what we've read with Andrea's books, like there's a belief maybe aliens are involved, but regardless, like the way the lay lines are crossing on that property, it is a portal, like a lot of things can come and go in that home. So I almost feel like if you go into the house with a Zach Began's attitude like come at me, demon,

Yeah.

I think that a lot of these public places that are like in the ghost hunting tourism game, they have a lot of people going in there with those kinds of vibes. They're going for their content or on YouTube or whatever, and they are like being real shitty and shady and whatever with the.

Ghosts aggressive aggressive.

And I feel like that can give a place a reputation and like, I'm sure the ghosts were probably happy to see you guys and be like Oh my god, like this vibe is so nice.

Yeah, it was fun.

Yeah, it was a great time.

We did experience some hauntings so well. There. So the show we're putting together is a combination of our experiences, like videos, photos, interviews with a bunch of people. We interviewed Chad and Carrie Hayes, who wrote the movie and had a lot of experiences on set and also in the process of writing it, and they spent a significant amount of time with Lorraine Warren too, and she's you know, she's passed away now, but she had some incredible stories.

Tell me about Loraine Warren. What are your thoughts on Loraine Warren.

I think it is a very complicated conversation. They led in too, obviously. I think there is there's a lot to be debated about their involvement in a lot of paranormal cases. They came at it with a very religious perspective, which was their own personal preference, and if someone else is not religious, I think they came into the parent home very Jesus God, and that was not how the

And they did a lot of good in the paranormal world and helped a lot of people. And obviously they were huge collectors of haunted artifacts and demons and entities and just helped people feel peace within their homes. But I think for just as many examples as we have of them doing all the good and helping families, there are probably quite a few stories of what they did

Well, I mean, hey, it's still whatever's there is still there, I guess, which is good. I think it's cool that it's a place that you can actually go to and rent out and have the rent of and do whatever.

Have you ever gone to a haunted place?

Oh honey? Oh yeah, I've done a lot.

What's your favorite?

This is a complicated question to answer. There's been a lot of places that I have been in recent times that I haven't shared on the podcast yet, so I feel like I probably shouldn't get into those at the moment. I mean, when it comes to like skepticism and stuff, my thing is like guilty until proven innocent, where I'm like, it's not paranormal until there's just no explanation whatsoever. Then it's paranormal at least when it's stuff that I'm there for.

Yeah, I'm with you on that.

I've been to places before where I'm like, there's no ghosts here. We've tried everything, there's no ghosts and then it's like, Okay, time to go to bed, and I'm like, what if there are What.

If they hurt me?

It's like the second you close your eyes that they've been waiting.

What have they been lurking? Yeah?

What if they heard me talking?

Shit?

I don't want to The Queen Mary is back open and I've done that before, and I feel like I am ready to go back.

I want to go so badly.

Have you guys never been at all?

I've been for like the eight PM ghost tours.

I've only been as like a hotel guest. I've never done the tour or anything. But I don't know those ghosts are from my experience, they had the night off the last time I went there. They were exhausted from all these years of being ghosts. They didn't have anything for me.

I mean in a place like that, I feel like there's so much expectations from the ghosts, like they're expected to be on all the time, because people go and they're like, where are you? I came to see you? Right, So it must be exhausting.

Oh, it has to be like it feels like a child star or something where it's like perform for everyone get out there, like I don't want.

To dance monkey dance exactly.

Yeah, it's not fair.

Yeah.

Well, I would suggest to you if you've never been to Charleston, South Carolina, or to the old Charleston.

Jail, No I haven't.

Oh my gosh. So I've grown up in haunted homes my entire life. Pretty much every place I've ever lived in has had a ton of paranormal activity.

Krinn. You said that you don't like to sleep in haunted places, and I'm like, you've literally your whole entire life slept in home.

Yeah, and I.

Don't sleep great. I'm never well rested.

Why do you not think that you're haunted? Why is it the houses and not you?

No, it's her, It probably is me, it's your family.

My whole family has experienced stuff our whole lives. So I think we thought. I think my parents thought, oh, maybe it's just bad luck, like, oh, we lived in haunted apartments, and then we had a haunted house, and maybe it's just New Hampshire or whatever. And then when we moved to Vermont and they were on like apartment number five or six, they were like, huh, still experiencing things. Maybe it is us, So yeah, we've been very haunted.

Oh damn.

I think they're always active.

Yeah, I feel like those tours usually is not when things happen for me. I love a good ghost tour, though, I'll go on any ghost tour. They're so fun super fun. But I feel like I've never had anything happen on one. Yeah, so that's kind of cool that these ghosts are like an audience. Let's perform. What do you guys think of haunted dolls?

Hey, ye, hate hate hate. Although we were informed by a listener of our podcast who owns a few haunted dolls that they enjoy listening to our podcast and sometimes when she comes home, she'll find our podcast playing in the room that the dolls are.

Ay, the dolls are listening to the body.

The dolls are listening. So I guess not all of them are possessed by demons with nefarious intent. Perhaps it's just some that are trying to get with the times and they're like, what's a podcast?

Or I wonder if they're like, we don't do that, Like they're just like listening, Like that is not true. This is a rumor, goes, don't do that.

What do you think of them?

Ros?

I think it's possible. I think anything's possible, truly exactly. But what I'm obsessed with is the world of eBay. Haunted dolls.

Yes, so fun to look at.

We have a segment here that I like to call the dolls are living. I have a doll for you guys today. Oh that I want to take a look at.

Okay, we're ready.

Let's see it. Jiha, can you show us this doll? I would like you guys to meet Monica.

The glamorous Monica.

Oh she's pretty, she's sickening. She's got gorgeous, piercing blue eyes. And I don't know what kind of fur.

It looks like a dalmatian. Honestly, I was.

Gonna say, yeah, it's sort of a Dalmatian or some kind of snow leopard. Yeah, with a matching hat. Huge buttons, big old Steve Harvey buttons.

I can't look away from her eyes. I know she's mesmerizing.

She's truly gorgeous.

Her hair, that's a blowout I've never been able to attain.

I know, and I'm sure she just I mean, she's still managed to put a hat over it. And she was like, yeah, I've got a blow out under here. But it's fine.

What's her story. I'm more concerned about the like open mouth mask on the wall behind her.

Okay, Well, Monica is currently going for thirty eight dollars on eBay. Okay, kind of a discount. Diva thirty eight dollars zero bids. But here's what it says about her. It says Monica is very selfish and a snotty spirit. I use that word strongly for a reason. Monica was very privileged her whole life. She never had to work for anything and never would Everything I have tried to talk to her about she makes harsh remarks like she's too good for any of it. Monica loves to shop

Yeah, she needs a therapist.

She doesn't talk about her death. She claims it didn't happen. Obviously it did. I love this, Obviously it did, or she wouldn't be in my home. She communicates through Ouiji boards, pendulums, necrophonic app, white noise apps, and she moves things around. If you feel drawn to Monica or that you have a connection with her in some way, please place a bid or use the buy now option to adopt her.

Please have you been tempted to purchase her yet?

No?

Uh?

My first red flag is well, I guess my first question would be why is this user selling her?

That's often my question, see this one is it's like, oh, she's just she's so snotty. I have to get her out of my life, Like she doesn't even know that she is a dead, living human being that's inside of this doll. Like she's crazy. She's crazy. She's crazy right.

Well, and also if you don't want to communicate with her, don't use your app and your Ouiji board. And it seems like you could probably just ignore her.

Yeah, she just wants to enjoy her life as this doll. Yeah, she misses the fact that she used to shop and stuff, take her shopping.

I've always wanted a stylist. Is this my opportunity to have a ghost stylist?

She probably would love that. But she is snotty. You know, she might she might be a little bit mean. She might be reading you like, oh, you're gonna wear that.

Like, I come home and my clothes are burnt.

You what if the next time we see you you just have a giant fur hat on.

You start wearing blue contacts, then we really know.

I did do that in high school.

You did blue contacts.

Blue contacts.

Yeh oh supreme, Oh my god. I think colored contacts have gotten better. But for the longes time, there was so many that like, if you looked up close, it looked like it was like printed like pixely almost, And that is like uncanny valleys stuff like you can't see people's emotions.

Yeah, totally.

And the eyes are the windows to the soul, and I feel like it's like kind of creepy.

Totally.

Okay, let's do another thing here. Okay, can I play you some EVPs?

Please please?

It's time for EVP or ev pase. Okay. What I do is I go to TikTok, I go to YouTube, I go wherever EVPs are found. I've got two of them for you today, and I'm going to play them for you. Okay, I want you to tell me what you think you hear, and then I'll tell you the correct answer. I'll give you four options, the correct answer being what the ghost hunter believes it is saying.

Okay, this one.

Is from TikTok. It's from ghost Hunter Mark and it was recorded at the Englefield Green Social Hall, which is in the UK. What on earth is this ghost saying?

Okay?

Did you hear it again?

I heard high babe.

To me, it's very like a British accent, Hi babe.

Yeah, it reminds me of the narwhale from Elf.

Bye Body, Bye Body. It does hi babe totally. It definitely has that deep voice. Yeah, I could hear high babe.

Or it's like someone who really loves hockey and he's.

Like hockey hockey.

It does sound way more like hi babe. It does well.

Ghost Hunter Mark did not think it was hockey or high babe. So which one of these answers was? Is it a slimey b confined me? Is it C behind me or D? I'm vibing I want.

It to be D. Yeah me too. Okay hear it again?

Yeah behind me would be my guess.

Yeah, he believes it is confined me.

We need to send him the high babe theory and then perhaps he'll hear.

That high bube when there's such short little segments like that, Yeah, how do you ever actually know what they're saying?

I know nobody really does. Okay. This one is also from TikTok from at Tulsa Paranormal. It was at an abandoned house in northern Tulsa, Oklahoma.

What is it saying?

Level piste?

Let us teach you, level or let us eat you.

I'll have the peach gum level.

There's definitely a p like a pee at some point.

Level pist.

I like both of those options actually.

Or I'll have the pea coat. Maybe it was Monca coming through.

Oh it's very Monica level pie.

Yeah, there's like a chut in the middle.

Yea a put and then a chut, a peach chut. I like peach. Okay. Tilsa Paranormal did not think it was any of those. Is it A let's get pizza? Is it B? Love a picture? Is it C let her be still? Or D it's leather pizza? Like they're like it's leather piza, Like, oh, call peta, the person's wearing leather. Okay, let me play it again.

Okay.

Level? What was option B?

I'd love a picture?

None of these feel right?

Yeah, it doesn't feel right, I know, what do you hear?

I hear it's leather pizza or maybe let's get pizza.

I like pizza, idea.

Yeah, I'll have the Peach Dawn down. I feel like there's a name at the end.

Maybe I want I want a piece? Yeah maybe? Oh yeah, they believe that it is ce let her be still. I don't know. Let me Okay, let's let's try to tune in. Let's see if we can hear let her be still.

I still don't hear it.

I'm almost hearing now, like let her peace John.

Yeah, maybe something to do with peace, like let us be peaceful John or down or Peach. We might not know what it's saying. But if you're just recording and you heard that speaking like, that's something that's weird.

Oh that's creepy. Yeah those are fun. I like doing that.

I know.

Well.

Hey, I'm so happy I got to meet you guys and us too. Now I'm gonna be on your podcast too. Yes, So tell people everything you want them to know and where they can find you and all that stuff.

Take it away, Krin.

You can find us wherever you listen to podcasts, Apple, Spotify, you can find us at Two Girls, One Ghost. We also have pretty much all the social media's also underneath the same username, and we are going on tour starting September seventh in Chicago. We're going to thirty two different cities, including one stop in Canada. So if you want to hear more about what we experienced and what we found regarding the Conjuring story, you can head to a theater and check it.

Out amazing, and then we'll have you on our show and hear all about your personal experiences.

Eoh okay, well, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank.

You so much to Karn and Sabrina. Go listen to their podcast, Two Girls, One Ghost. Who. All right, So a reminder, starting next week, I'm going to introduce you to my friends that I will be starring in the show Living for the Dead. Every week will be a different one. This is October, baby, We're gonna start getting