The Return of Jess Ambrose!

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Okay, I have such a fun episode today with one of our favorites, Jess Ambrose of the wildly popular podcast Chatty Broad's. We're gonna get into that in a moment, but I have got something good. Ooh, this is good, this is good, this is good.

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So over this weekend I was doing the show that you know we've talked about a million times, Golden Girls, so fun. We do it on stage. I had a small little part, but I made the most of it. Now we had different celebrity guests making surprise cameos, I mean surprise for the audience, cameos on stage, and it was it was so fun. Every show had a different celebrity guest. Well, we happened to have movie star a list movie star slash bonafide honk Asaurus Chris Pine.

He was in the cast just for the one day. He showed up.

He was a pro, he had his own costume, he knew all of his lines.

I mean, he was great. He was great.

I mean, of course, when it's over, you want to be like, Wow, you're really good. It's like, yeah, he's Chris Pine anyway, so of course, you know me, I gotta talk about ghosts. The first thing I thought of when I heard that Chrispine was going to do this was that episode a couple of months ago with Lou Taylor Poochie, the actor who also starred in a movie with Chris Pine a number of years ago, and Lou had the most incredible ghost story where go back and

I'm not gonna like if it comes up, it comes up.

Well, it was actually really strange because I left the room. This was you know, we had already gone over everything for the show and now we're just kind of chilling and having a good time. And I had left the room for a little bit, actually really like two seconds. I think it went to the bathroom or something.

I don't know.

I come back and they're talking about ghosts. I'm like, oh, this is amazing. I'm like, does everyone did everyone see that? I didn't bring it up. I didn't bring it. It wasn't me.

Somebody else brought it up. And it was because.

Martin, who's in the cast, was talking about a near death experience type thing I believe, and then it turned into us, you know, people in the room talking about their beliefs and whatever, and everyone in the cast that I'm friends with I had already I've had on this podcast, and they obviously know me. They're very very very close friends of mine, so they all know that I'm the ghost Lady. So I interject and I'm like, oh my, you guys are talking about ghosts like that's you know,

He's like what.

I was like, Yeah, Lou Taylor Pucci came on my podcast and he was like, oh my god, I tell that story all the time. And he told the story the exact same story Lou Taylor Bouchie. I mean, he told it from his side, but it was all the exact same details. Not that I thought that Lutailer Poochie was lying or anything, but it was just amazing to hear his side of it and he was so excited

He was awesome. Either way, it was you know.

I of course, one day hopefully I'll be able to have him on the pod and we can talk about it because it is such a good story. But either way, I got to have that experience and it was so fun and I was so excited to share it with you, and now I just did. So anyway, that's that. Let's get into this episode with Jess. I love her so much. She has been on this podcast twice. She was on in twenty twenty one on February fourth, and she was also on in twenty nineteen on the fifteenth of August.

The video for that. Either way, check that out.

Okay, I hope you enjoyed this episode with my friend Jess Ambrose on with the show, you guys, I am joined once again by an absolute favorite.

She is wearing the cutest Betty Boo top.

Oh my, She's always serving some sort of look gorgeous and put on the glasses for the cameras.

For those watching, which you should be.

She's known for throwing shade. She's very honestly, she's always looking for problems.

I came on here to argue with you. We decided we're gonna fight because I walked in and you decided to look at this sexy today and I was trying to turn a look and then you show up with that gorgeous face. So now we're fighting.

See you would be the worst housewife. That's not how it works. You gotta get more personal and more.

I'm gonna throw this drink at you because you are too good stunning, okay, and I'm feeling insecure.

So Jess Ambrose, welcome back to the show.

Thank you so much for having me on. I'm so happy to see you.

I'm always happy to see you.

It makes my heart so happy.

I know, and the ghosts are always happy to see you.

The ghosts honestly won't leave me alone. I feel like I know when it's time to come back and be with you and be on the podcast, because they'll be quiet for a little while after I come on this show, and then a few months into it, they're knocking.

Yeah, They're like, you're due to talk to Roz.

I'm like, okay, I hear you, Goss. I will go visit one of my favorite people. You don't have to push me, you don't have to scare my child. Okay, Oh no, she's actually okay. This round hasn't been as spooky. This round, this round of spookiness hasn't been That's what I feel like. It comes in. The hauntings in my house definitely come in rounds.

I could see that, Hey, maybe it's like an anniversary of something that happens in your house. I don't know.

I hadn't thought of that.

It could be. Is it always the same time or is it just.

This is when I wish I would journal, you know what I mean, because I have no concept. I don't. I mean, it feels it does feel like it's around the same time, and I guess we're nearing spooky season, but it started up again about like two months ago.

Do you think the ghosts know that it's almost Halloween.

I think they're ready to party.

Yeah, They're like, this is kind of our moment.

I know we've talked about this before, but there's always Honestly, people are rude. They have different guesses about ghosts, and I would just imagine that if they're here, they are still wanting to party, right.

It could be. Yeah, I'm sure some I.

Mean people are saying that it's only scary spooky things. I'm like, yeah, but what about like the ones who want to stay here? This was my recent revelation in my own mind about the ghosts.

Let's see, And this is judgmental of me, but I always just feel like a lot of time. Now there's a lot of different activity that could be taken place. Sure is it connected to a human or could it just be some energy in the air. But when it's connected to a human spirit, I always it's my judgmental thing. It always seems sad to me, whether it seems like it or not, like okay, but it seems like, oh, this ghost is like loves it. It's like, honey, like the party's over, Like this party's over.

There's another one.

Together, another one's well, that's my thing, and you know, maybe it's my brain, my non housewife real housewife brain where I'm trying to be like positive about it, but I always think about like the ghosts have to be hot, right, because the only people who want to stay here and not go some more better were the ones who like lived an amazing sexy life on earth, you know what I mean, Like the star football player who was like, I live my best life here and.

I'm not going anywhere like see, yes, you know.

So it is sort of like with the living people where you're forty, you still wear your football jersey.

Exactly, gotcha.

Maybe that's what the ghosties are or is.

It somebody that's like I didn't get to be my hottest self. Okay, so I'm I'm not gonna leave until I'm the hottest one here or the hottest I can leave that too, like that too.

I don't know. Or maybe it has nothing to do with any of them.

Maybe one day I'll haunt all the mean girls from my high school.

That would be fun.

That's kind of fun.

Yeah, or their children.

Sorry, you don't deserve this. This was your parents' fault. But you know, now we're all older, we've all passed. You know, I'm coming back to haunt you. It's just part of what you know. It's just what has to happen. Yeah, cyclical nature of life.

Yeah, it's not. That's not sad at all.

Yeah.

So what's going on? We need to recap your house?

Yes, okay, so I remember here's what I remember from you telling me this house that you live in. There was somebody brought over some dolls that you used to live in the house.

Dolls.

Yeah, somebody dropped off a photograph.

I'm an old man.

An old man dropped off a photograph. The old man disappeared. Haven't you heard things in your attic?

Yes, we'd heard things up in the attic, to the point where one day my husband went and took a ladder and opened up the attic and normally have like all our Christmas decorations and everything right near the entrance to it easy access, all of those boxes boxes had been pushed to the back of the attic. So either someone's living in our attic possibilities. When we've talked about this on our podcast, the amount of messages from people talking about someone living up there, I'm like, Okay, this

How could they get Is there another entrance?

I don't think so.

Oh no, to think that them having to go through your house when you're not looking, that is the scariest thing.

Scari so much scarier.

But okay, so we know it's again ghosts. Your theory, this is their time now, So that means that they probably it's sorry, but you either are Halloween or Christmas. And if they don't like Christmas.

They're pushing them.

They're pushing the toys back, is what I'm saying. They're like, it's not time for Christmas. I'm a Halloween ghost.

It's like a crampus situation.

Could be.

That movie really freaked me out. It was fantastic, funny, but it really scared me. Like I don't know what it was where I was laughing the whole time, but it affected me for about a week after. I just kept getting the images in my head.

It's so good.

Wait, so, okay, what else has happened? We tried to use a spirit box at your house. We got very little.

Wait didn't we get a name? What was the name that we got?

It was like it was Alvin or something. It was okay, Alvin, Alvin, But I don't whatever Alvin and the Chipmunks Christmas.

Could be now could be?

So has Alvin or anybody what your dog has had? Hasn't your dog had some weirdness?

Well that was actually, uh a few years ago. The dog was acting very strange, same house, same house. Now. I guess my little one occasionally will like perk up and act a little weird. But she can be like that sometimes, so I can't judge it.

Didn't she says she saw people or she didn't. I thought she You told me one time that she was like she was hearing people or seeing people or no, did I make that.

Up the dog? No, your daughter.

I thought you said my dog, And I'm like, no, I'm like your casually telling me that my dog told me about the people. Like that's the part that I'd get a little more freaked out of.

No, didn't your daughter say something oh yes, as in.

Her Oh no, no, no she did. There was a time when she was talking about seeing people in her room. We moved her bedroom because her original we had like her little room that we had her sleeping And when we first moved there, and she was really young, and she kept talking about seeing the woman in the closet, which granted, we all we all get a little scared of closets when we're young.

Right, tell me about it.

But so when she said that, I was a little bit like, Okay, all of our babysitters have told us that our house is haunted, right, so we would that's Those were the first people we were hearing in from were the babysitters. My husband and I we went really picking up on it that much, but then we kept hearing it from them and We're like, I'm just not getting that vibe. And then she starts talking about woman

That's why I will never be a parent. That's why I will never be a parent. If a child told me that, I would say, you're.

On your own, sorry, bye. No, the monitors are the scariest thing in the entire world. The baby monitors are terrifying. Yeah, I don't care if anything's happening in your house or not. When you stare at that and you're like, when my husband will be gone, I'm alone at home looking at that thing, I'm like, i know I'm going to see something move.

Yeah, that is paranormal activity.

It is so scary, but so he moved her in the back and then for a long time she was okay, and then like two years ago, she started kind of having a series of scary dreams and being like, it feels like there's somebody in the room. And I'm like, maybe she's just getting older. I don't know, like she's maybe like getting ideas from movies she's watching. I try to be careful, but I don't know. Maybe something snuck

Has she described what this woman looks like?

She said she looked old.

Okay, you're the one that said that all these ghosts are hot. I mean, I'm like old.

Yeah, I'm sorry, sorry, but the way you said old made me think that she I.

Don't really know. She said old, long hair, which could be very hot, which sounds like a really attractive, beautiful older woman.

Wow, I'm really sorry. The way that you said old really made me picture that lady from the Shining.

But yeah, I don't get like a great sense from her. Normally, she describes things really well, and when I've asked her questions, she kind of seems to just be like she's older, she has long hair, but it's almost like she doesn't want to give me details or maybe they're too fuzzy for her. But she talks about it now all of a sudden, which is strange because of now the recent happenings in the house. Like what, okay, so it was really there was no movement for a long time, like

You think she's Elvin?

Maybe it's a unique name.

It's possible.

Maybe, I don't know, But it was quiet. I wasn't really getting much. I kind of after you brought the spirit Box, I like started to download tons of apps on my phone and I'm like, I'm gonna do all like that stuff in my what's the name of it, not spirit box but EVPs. It's not EVPs, but it's something like the spirit box basically, but it's an app on.

On Okay, Yeah, there's a bunch of them.

So I downloaded like all of those, and so I was just going throughout the house and seeing, you know, where the frequency was higher and if I heard any okay. And so I was like like checking the frequency and that was scaring the living daylights out of me because it was just like exploding.

Well and the thing with that is it's the electronics, it will, you know, right.

So it's like, Okay, it's in my living room, I have a TV. Maybe we're just living on like a weird magnet hill.

And sometimes that can cause paranormal activity. That can cause maybe also being skeptical, it could cause people to think that it's paranormal activity because weird things are happening. I mean, it can be a lot of things.

It's kind of common, and that's what I've been processing lately, like maybe that's what's been happening, because a lot of it was, you know, minus what my daughter saw sounds like hearing voices, high pitched ringing, you know that type of thing. Well, I guess the box moving the dolls. It's all very creepy. I'm just trying to justify not

What did they sound like?

It was like kind of whisper talking like, but it sounded like a conversation.

Did they sound hot?

They sounded really attractive.

Actually, you're so hot?

No, you're high, you're hotter. You're really bothering me how hot you are. I'm feeling so insecure and jealous. Now so hot, You're so sexy? Okay, But so we're hearing this back and forth, and it's very weird because it's almost like, you know, how sound just goes okay, because in this room there's two voices like in the center speaking and we can hear them so distinctly, but we have nothing on, so that's no TV or radio or

And you really couldn't make out any words.

No, no, But I also have a hard time with the EVPs too, Lord knows, I can never understand anything. Yeah, we'll figure this out later. Yeah, but so that happened, and we're like, that was really weird. That kind of felt very freaky. But again, explanation like maybe there was something somewhere that was like picking up on some frequency and we heard something that sounded like voices. I don't know. But then two days later, my daughter is at school, so it's just the two of us at home and

But that's not the closet room, right.

That's not the closet room. That's her new room.

Okay, does it have a closet not.

It's like a tiny little pull door. It's not like a little tiny walk and like her old one. Her old one was like one of those ones like you open the door and it's like looks dark inside and the lady apparently lives in there. Okay, So a few days later, uh, my daughter loses a tooth, and she had this whole thing where like she wasn't ready to give the tooth to the tooth fairy. So she was like, I'm gonna put it or it was something like she wasn't ready or she's like wanted to make it easier

Do you think the toothpairy came in and was like I hear I heard, there's a fresh one for me. And then she's like, wait a minute, this is not under the pillow. It's very simple instructions.

She's like, I only ask one thing, and one thing I ask. Humans cannot figure it out under the pillow or it means nothing to me.

She's like, I don't want your dresser tooth. I want the pillow tooth. That's kind of my thing. It's been that way for a long time.

Don't come in here and try to change the rules. Who you think you are that you can just walk in here thousands of years into my business and stop.

Putting it under the I'm not rebranded.

It's not time for that, honey. But yeah, the tooth was on the opposite side of the room. And again we break it down. Maybe in the middle of the night, my daughter slept walk, slept.

Walk sleepwalk, sleepwalked, slept walked.

Slept walked, slept walk, swapped.

Maybe she did that, but she doesn't normally do that.

That I'm to have a monitor. Yeah, did you watch it?

Oh, it's not like a recorded one. But I didn't hear anything. She didn't wake up in the middle of the night and like go to the bathroom or anything like that. And it was freaky. And so then a few days after that, I was in this studio. So you know, our studio is behind our house. I had to go record something in the studio. So Evan went. He set up everything for me and was a studio door. He went back in the house. Here's the thing about Evan, one of our biggest fights is that he never closes

But why is it locking you places?

And I don't like that. It's locking me out, locking you out, it's locking me out of my house.

Are you away?

Yes?

Do you think it's trying to get to Evan?

Oh my god? Do you think the ghost? Do you think the old Lady ghost is like super attracted to him. Probably she thinks he's a sexy pa. He's a cute guy. I know you need to leave the daughter. You both of you guys need to go.

Yeah, I don't know. Oh my god.

You know, he got so freaked out once in the house, and the man doesn't get scared very often. He got so freaked out once I was out of town. He took our daughter and he went to my mother in law's house to spend the night because he was too scared to sleep there.

Why did he get so freaked out.

Because he was working in his studio and he had a friend over who was working with him, and so the friend saw this as well, and like two objects like flew across the room while they were recording. This was a while ago.

But so you live in a full one haunted house.

I think so, and you I feel like you've lived in many feels that way. We definitely had a house before that gave us weird energy, but nothing ever happened. It was just like, oh, this house is strange, and we both had a moment where we connected over it. But we in the course of being together for you know, eleven twelve years at least, living together. We've moved like seven times, and then this was the one house that

So, okay to recap, Yes, there's an old hot woman, very attractive cougar. Maybe I could use that word. I don't know, I'm not sure.

Maybe maybe like a like a fade done way, Okay, a beautiful older woman, sure, long hair, long hair after your husband apparently maybe doesn't like my daughter and certainly doesn't like me, doesn't like teeth, is not a fan of teeth, Maybe doesn't have anymore. Maybe she's jealous.

Maybe she's an old woman that doesn't have teeth and she wanted that tooth.

Do you think that she's trying to put together a whole new rack of teeth to attract my husband.

One at a time.

My daughter is losing teeth rapidly, so she's in the right place.

Does the tooth fairy eventually get that tooth?

Yes, the tooth fairy got the tooth. The tooth fairy got the tooth immediately. I'm like, we're wrapping this tooth up now. I'm not leaving this haunted tooth around my house.

Do you keep those teeth?

I've kept the teeth, and I feel so straight. It's sweet because you're like, oh, it's my kids, But there there's an ominous feeling about collecting teeth.

Somewhere in my parents' house, you will find a little envelope that has my teeth that I grew out of my body.

It's disgusting.

Do you think one day, you know how they have now archaeological digs and they're finding things. Uh huh, this current culture that has been happening now for the past what fifty years, we've been collecting teeth. Maybe one day they're just going to find envelopes in all these houses.

Just yeah, these people were discussed.

Why do these people collect teeth?

Yeah? In jar?

Is it in envelopes?

Exactly? I don't know. It's so gross, it's disgusting, So is that it?

I think so? But you know, I'm not thinking that it'll be it because it feels like it's just starting to ramp up a little bit again.

But you want to keep it right. You don't want to get rid of this. It's good content.

It is good content. It just it depends on my moods.

Let's see where it goes.

That's sometimes I'm like, ghosty, I am feeling adventurous and I want to talk to you. Where are you at, Alvin? I want to speak to you. But sometimes they're I've talked to you before about the different energy shifts in the house. Like sometimes the haunting feeling doesn't feel ominous, and then I'm all about it. I'm like, this is fun, this is good content. I don't feel nervous. But when there's that ominous energy, I'm like, I'm down for it to be gone.

Well that's the thing with ghosts, like just by nature, the idea of it is invasive and not asking for consent, Like it's basically just I'm gonna appear here and hopefully you're okay with it, or maybe you're not.

I'm just gonna lock you in a room.

I'm gonna throw some shit, you know, And like sometimes that's fine.

And sometimes it's not.

Yeah, it depends on my mood. Sometimes I want someone to stay li after one of my parties, and sometimes I need them to go home immediately so I can take a bath and go to bed.

What are these parties I want to go?

I mean they're imaginary.

Invite me.

Hey, can I tell you about a famous story? Okay, this is actually shifting gears to something more alien.

Well, you know it's.

Not here you go with you know, have an amazing story.

No, but it's just interesting because I've definitely when we've talked about certain like certain happenings, I always get messages from people saying, maybe it's actually not ghost and maybe it's more like an alien portal, like what's the word, like a little a little hole in the dimensions where we are, Okay, because it always feels like different energy. There's maybe people are like passing.

It's a portal.

Yeah, it's like the Harry Potter train station. But in my living room there's always people arriving, coming and going. It's aliens.

Okay, could be please continue.

Well, let's see if you've ever had anything like this happened to you. This is the story of the Kelly Hopkinsville case, which would also be a good drag name Kelly Hopkinsville Case coming to the stage. So this happened in the Kelly Hopkins Kelly or Hopkinsville area of Kentucky.

Thought it was a lady.

No, no, no, it actually is two county or two city or towns Kelly and Hopkinsville. They're in Christian County, Kentucky. And fun fact about that area, up until twenty nineteen, sixty percent of all bowling balls were made in that area.

Fun so, good time, strap on.

Your bowling shoes, because I got a doozy for you.

I got a strike, I like, what's bowling terminology?

I got a big old ball of a story for you to put your fingers in. So this took place on August twenty first, nineteen fifty five, so we just missed the anniversary. How did you celebrate the anniversary of.

The Kelly Hopkins I think back, this.

Was August twenty four first, nineteen fifty five. So this involves Billy Ray Taylor, not Cyrus. Not Cyrus. Billy Ray Taylor. He was visiting Kelly, Kentucky from Pennsylvania. He was staying with his friend named Elmer, also known as Lucky Elmer Lucky Sutton, what a name, and.

And his family. There was eleven people total that were in this house. And Billy Ray.

He's you know, it's a hot night, and he's like, you know what, I need to go get some water. So he goes out to the well. I mean this was like they had a well. They didn't have electronics, like this was out there. Okay, So goes out to the well.

And he looks up and he sees this silvery object in the sky and it has an exhaust behind it that he describes as having all the colors of the rainbow. An early pride.

Yeah, maybe maybe the song Born this Way was playing. No just kidding, but so he's hearing like this hissing noise and then it kind of lands behind the farmhouse and then I guess he sees it like go over, it stops and then it plops down like somewhere behind the farmhouse. So he goes in and he's like, guys, remember how I was just getting water. They're like, yeah,

Oh, it's the perfect way to describe it.

So the dogs are barking, okay, and so all the other people in the house are like, wait a minute, Billy Ray, not silly Ray. So they go outside and they see something approaching them. It is described as a humanoid figure about three and a half feet tall. It's got a large head, it's got long arms and talons.

No, not the talons. Unnecessary. I was all good until the town.

Those are tal aren't Those talons aren't talent? Yeah? Those are sickening.

If they had a nice shade them, then fine.

Yeah. So it's got the talons. They're like long arms about touching the ground with the.

Talons dragging the talons perhaps.

I don't know.

Okay.

So they also say that it had yellowy eyes that glowed glue glowed, and bodies that seemed to shimmer like they were metallic.

Okay, and actually I have a picture here.

This was a rendering as described by what Billy Ray saw, something like this.

Oh wow, okay, this long arms, long arms. Also, I was gonna say, the muscles, the pecks are looking.

Nice, not bad. Chicken legs like little tiny skinny legs.

Skinny legs definitely only works out the upper body.

Yeah, you can't skip jim.

Yes, the extraterrestrial gym in the ear situation was that discussed the big ears because those look kind of like wings.

They do look wing like, which that will come back up.

Okay, So if this thing flies with its ears, I'm out way with the dragging talons. No no, no, no no.

So they get out their guns and they start shooting at this thing.

Not a good call.

And there's some reports later that they had said that there was a ton of them. I mean, it gets a little hazy with these reports.

But oh so some of them are saying they were a lot.

A couple of them. Okay, so they're shooting at them.

They actually described that it flipped like they were like flippin' around, flip into a tree.

The extraterrestrial creatures were flipping.

Yeah, okay, flippin'.

At first, I was thinking like the bullets were bouncing off their bodies, which is also frightening. But whatever that is flipping around, Wow.

I mean you could argue that maybe the bullets were flying off of them, or these guys didn't have a good shot because they never really got one, I don't know, or they were just flipping everywhere and they were just skipping, you know, missing.

All the bullets. I don't know.

So at one point, so they go back inside and the family does, and then these these little things that flip up into the trees and they're like running off into the.

Woods like scary scatter. Yeah.

So they go inside and they're just like, okay, I think it's over. And at one point they see one pressing its face up against the window, which I don't know what exactly that looks like. You do you do you know Romey and Michelle?

Do you like where it's smushed?

Yeah?

Do you know?

Romy and Michelle?

There's like that scene where they're on the road trip and the kid is like putting his face and like making faces against the window and then Michelle does it.

That's what I'm hoping.

It was kind of a precious.

Yes, sticking your tongue out at the.

Moment, not so much of like the strangers.

Don't get me started with them. The first time I saw that movie, I was camping in a tent. I'm not going to get into it right now.

That's the worst type of time to be watched, A terrible time. I walked out of the theater the first time.

I was so scary.

It is so scary. Okay, So it's all calming down again, you know. Billy Ray pokeses his head out and a hand is seen reaching down and touching his hair. With the talents, So they get back inside. They're hearing little noises on the roof a little bit. It's been a few hours, and they're like, okay, we got to get out of here.

So they've been stuck inside.

Yes, okay.

So they get into their cars or their trucks or whatever. They go down to the police station. They tell them what was going on, and the cops come over. They get a whole crew of people, photographer like everyone.

They all go back to the house.

And they don't find anything, And there was one office her name Frank Dudas, who did believe them, and he went on record saying that he had actually seen UFOs in the area a year before.

So there was that.

Now Glennie Lankford, who was Sutton's mom, She was the matriarch of the household.

She said that they were not drinking.

They weren't allowed to drink because everyone was like, these people are wasted. They're just like out there. You know, they don't have TV, they don't have internet.

They're just the immediate assumption you're talking about. You described the talons, the glowing eyes, the big ears, and they're flipping all over there in the tree in the fifties too, So their faces against the windows, like you.

Guys are getting wild out there.

The brand the moon shines.

Moonshine, Yeah, so or I don't know, white claws or whatever.

White claws.

So she reported that around three point thirty in the morning she saw one of them. This is after the investigation and stuff. She sees one of them with its hand on the window like looking in like.

Creepy. Huh.

Actually her report is posted online. Wait, first time me show you this is some of the guys describing I mean fine, Hi.

Okay, so is that Billy Ray? Is that Elmer?

I can't remember? Guys, two of them are Billy Ray and Elmer.

They're all very attractive. Is that about fine?

I mean honestly, the open shirt with the harry and shirt.

The gorgeous hair like a Paul Newman. I'm like, is this just a screen grab from like a very well acclaimed movie.

Seriously, this is where I would be visiting if I was an alien.

Also, the premise of this does feel like M Knight's signs a little bit.

But yeah, the people have said that this has inspired movies and et possibly, but zam, these guys are fine.

Damn sorry?

Do you believe the fine men a little more? No?

Okay, no, I don't.

I think that sometimes hot people just always want to be the most interesting person.

They just want to be the center of the attention.

Yeah, but so this is like you look like that.

You don't have to, you know, just try to tell.

Us how you don't have to try.

The little creature is running around Elmer.

Come on, Elm, I'm already sticking to you like Elmer's glue.

Honey in your middle name is Lucky. I see why.

Now, Okay, okay, I'm trying to get lucky.

So this is the report. I guess that was written by the woman. She says a lot of these. You can see, it's like blanked out some of the names and stuff.

But age fifty.

I live in hop Hopkinsville, Roots six, Kentucky.

On Saturday.

At Sunday night, August twenty first, nineteen fifty five, at about ten thirty pm, I was walking through the hallway, which is located in the middle of my house, and I looked out the back door, which was south and I saw a bright silver object about two and a half feet tall, appearing round. I became excited and did not look at it long enough to see if it had any eyes or move. Oh, so she's talking about When she says object, I guess she's talking about the creature.

Seven, and their friends were twenty one out. I guess so a bunch of people blah blah blah blah blah.

They're all in the house. They saw this little man that looked like a monkey. At about three thirty am. I was in my bedroom and I looked out the north window and I saw a silver shining object about two and a half feet and it had its hands on the screen looking in. I called for my sons and they shot at it and it left. I was about sixty feet from it this time, sixty feet. I

So there's that. Okay. Wait, so back to this story here again.

A lot of people things that they were wasted. She says, No, I don't allow that in my home.

I don't know.

Many suspect that it was horned owls, which also have yellow eyes and round heads and the big wings.

Okay, if you're drunk, I guess, talons, two talons, I guess.

So another sheriff from a nearby town joined the initial investigation, and he said in two thousand and.

Three in an interview that they were drong.

Whereas some other police officers were like No, it didn't seem like they were, so who knows. It was all over the newspapers. It became a big old thing. They put up no trespassing signs because people wanted to come up and see.

Of course probably they probably want to see them.

Man, they're like, I'm not interested in those horned owls.

Yeah, I'm a little.

More for something else. Okay, okay, So they put these no trustpassing signs. It didn't work. People kept coming in. Also, they're like, were they going.

To do shoot me? They couldn't shoot.

Sorry, obviously this didn't work last time, so I'm not so scared due to the history.

But also the aliens never came back, so maybe they saw the no treuspassing sign.

They're just polite.

Sorry.

Yeah, they're like, police, don't do not shoot at us. I mean, in that situation, do you just barricade yourself in your home? Are you trying to defend yourself?

Yeah?

How do you go on after that? Well, I'll tell you what they did. They began charging admission for people to come to their house. They said fifty cents to come over here, one dollar for some info, ten dollars for pictures.

Oh, a move Okay, yes, so they're capitalists up and here of course.

Well, one thing I read online that I found a little interesting was that the two men, Lucky and Billy Ray, they met working together a traveling carnival. So they had a little bit of that carnival energy.

So they knew that they could create some sort of magical story to get people to pay.

Possibly possibly, But to this day, every year, though I was looking it up. I don't know if COVID, I don't know, but they have done this festival every year that is called the Little Green Men. And now it became that this was originally they said it was silver, but it became like the little Green Men that were in this house. But it's called the Little Green Men Days Festival, and there's pictures online. People like dress up and they it's like a carnival kind of fair.

It sounds fun that takes place in that area.

What do you feel in your heart?

I I think it's fun, especially in the fifties, like.

Oh you're bored.

You know. It's like when you talk about credibility of people that report this stuff, it's like who is it going to? Like who will you believe? You know? I don't know.

There's always there's always gonna be reasons why you can nationalize.

Here's my thing. People might laugh at this because clearly I'm very open to the ghosty moments to my house. But I feel like in general I do, I really do. When I'm not trying to be dramatic about it and have fun, I do try to square away the ghost stories. I try to make the make logical sense to me and take potentially spirit out of it. Yeah, you know that's where I go first, the alien ones. I'll believe anything you tell me. Yeah, yes, I want to so bad. I just want it to be I'm like, I mean,

Yeah, I hope so, I assuming that I live to be an old lady with long hair like Elvin Yes.

With your extraterrestrial boyfriend extra terrestrial.

Can I show you a haunted doll please? Or is this going to bring up some trump I.

Trigger some trauma? But you know what, I would love to dive in our haunted dolls were very spooky, but they are now gone.

I got going to come back. Do you know about the haunted Elsa doll? A couple of years ago, Elsa from Frozen, I heard about this. This is one of my favorite stories I've ever read in the newspaper.

I'm obsessed that it was an Elsa doll.

And she kept coming back.

I also wanted to stay put, and they kept relocating her.

She would not let it go. She kept reappearing. It was amazing story.

And true Elsa fashion. She just kept coming back. Would let it go? Let go? Oh yeah, no, ours, I took it to I took both of them far away.

Well, I have another idea for you if you were if this ever happens again. Okay, and you want a little bit extra cash just for fun? eBay?

Okay. eBay is the place to go because people want those haunted dolls.

Do they? I mean? Okay, So we're going to talk today about Ruby.

Ruby.

So about a week ago, I was doing what I do every single week, go on eBay type and haunted doll.

I really do.

I love you, and I keep up with the going rates, I keep up with the community.

You're on top now, No, purchase as yet though.

What do you think? I am No.

I didn't know if you were maybe considering, you know, renting out a storage unit and just keeping a single doll no in the storage unit.

Absolutely nope.

So I find Ruby, okay, and Ruby at first a week ago discount Diva. She's going for five dollars and fifty cents. Okay, I'm like, damn, okay?

Oh Ruby?

Well I checked. There was a bidding war, fifty bids for Ruby. She went for two hundred and twenty one dollars and fifty cents.

Oh wow, let me show you Ruby.

This is Ruby right here. Ruby, kind of cottage core drass.

Yes, there's something about the face that will definitely live in my dreams tonight, that's for sure.

Oh well, yeah, Ruby, I mean she's got I don't know, something on her face. She's she's a little disheveled. I don't know what this is. She's cute.

Now it says here that she was active spirit, salty but benevolent.

What does this mean? Salty but benevolent?

Yeah, salty but benevolent.

Okay, can you explain what that? How you interpret that one?

Okay? Well, we'll read about it. Comes with a biography.

Oh amazing.

Oh yeah, yeah, I wouldn't leave you hanging like that.

I'm like salty but benevolent. I have a lot of questions.

Yeah, I'm salty but benevolent. So okay.

Ruby is an interesting spirit. She can be funny, but she's super judgmental. You know that friend that says mean things but they are true, mean things and they are funny.

Well that's Ruby.

I always have mixed feelings because she shouldn't be so judgmental, but she says funny things. At first, I used a pendulum to communicate with her, and then I got to where I.

Could hear her when we are alone in a room together.

Okay, in the middle, I'm just picturing these conversations that she was having where she's saying things that are true but they're mean, but they're funny.

Yes, she's like Joan.

Rivers Rivers and then the human being like Ruby not today but also like a little giggle but.

Also that is hilarious, Ruby, And you're right, You're always right, Ruby, God Like, I can just picture her like this person is having a friend over and then they leave, and then Ruby's like girls, she needs to fix those split ends, and then you're like, Ruby, you're right, but but you can't say that. Ruby, I'm gonna put you on eBay. So, okay, there's more. In the past, Ruby occupied a different vessel. She was in a different doll. She switched to this

Oh so she leaves a little spice.

She does.

Yeah, Ruby likes she likes the wholesome home, which she probably is like me.

She probably makes fun of them the whole She likes.

To have the commentary. But then you know, as an ex board housewife is like, I need some spicy.

Oh she gets those romance sensuality in my life.

Yes, yeah, So in some ways I think death was a relief because she has more freedom now. Okay, She's fourteen inches tall, nine inches at her arms. She has marks and scratches on her face. Her hair needs some care. She has a doll stand blah blah blah. And then the last thing it says is Ruby is a cool lady, but one needs to be okay with listening to funny but judgmental comments. If you are looking for a gossip partner, you have a great friend.

Now, is this person attempting to get rid of Ruby because they're trying to get better?

Twenty one dollars and fifty cents later.

Ruby just sounds like a great hang. I'm like, so, I'm it's so fun, Like I like to be able to have my private, you know, judgie conversations with my best closest friends. You know, Ruby is not giving away this person's secrets.

She could be a podcast partner.

Yeah, absolutely, So I'm just so curious why this individual would. I mean, maybe they're trying to better themselves and not talk so badly, so judgmentally about some other friends. It could be he's a bad influence.

I know Ruby's probably pissed about this. I wouldn't mess with Ruby.

Ruby would hop on social media and spill all your tea or something.

Yeah no, no, no, no, no, Ruby is not going to be happy with you. And you know that Ruby is just going to be talking smack about this x the entire time. Oh yeah, so you know, if you purchase Ruby, it's just the ex conversation is going to be non stop, Like Ruby, what are you going to get over them? Okay, you're with me, now we're in a relationship. Now it's time to move on.

Oh no, I think this, I would say, of all the dolls I've liked, that this.

One might be the one I would want the most fun.

Maybe sounds so fun.

She's my kind of goal.

Now are these descriptions always so fantastic?

Not always? But this is what I look for?

Is this kind of because I'm just I'm tickled by Do.

You understand now why every single week I go to eBay and I type and hanted dolls one?

Yeah, I'm like, I just I just met a new friend that I like.

A doubt that if you looked at these long enough, you will find one that's like she loves to listen to the podcast Chatty Brad's like, they get into the things that they like.

So do they know why they like the specific podcast or shows because they tell them this?

I mean, I don't know. It sounds like with Ruby, she would let you know if she doesn't like it, I.

Might want to purchase one of these dolls, now.

Okay, please do because if.

They're gonna like let me know, if they're going to communicate with me their boundary, their interests, their purpose, then I can get I can wrap my head around it, and I can be like, we're going to be pals. Here communication my dolls. There was no communication. They were just spooky as hell.

Did you try?

I guess I really didn't. Maybe that was me being shut off. It was my problem, not their problem.

I'm going to keep my eyes open and if I see one that I like for you, I will purchase it for you at least and haven't sent to your.

Alie, and don't tell me that you purchase it and send it and it'll just arrive and it'll scare the living daylight.

I will hire an old male actor like the man that came to your house that.

Day, who can also disappear on command. Is just a smoke bomb.

Yes, you're just gone. Yes, I will find an old magician. You want to hear some ghost voices?

Please, it's time for.

V plice. You've done this before.

I go to YouTube, I find alleged electronic voice phenomena aka ghost voices, and I'm gonna play two of them for you. I want you to tell me what you hear, and then we're gonna guess what the real answer is, which is what the investigators.

Said that they believe it says. Okay, okay.

This first one is from Sennepur, which is Southeastern New England paranormal investigative research. It was done at a private residence, so we don't know where. Here we go, what is this ghost saying?

Okay, what do you think? It's a creepy voice.

Yeah, I don't like that voice at all. I'm hearing like something cover.

Yeah, maybe it was like a cover artist they were doing.

They heard a good cover of some song.

I just want to let you know that someone has dropped a fantastic The Weekend cover. Yes, it sounds like good cover.

Good cover. Okay, Well here's some odd which.

Is also spooky like good cover.

Wait a second. Is it a look at her? Which I like? I like the thought of like look at her?

She's one on.

That's what I said when you walked in and I said, look at her? Is it b the cupboard?

What's in the cover? Is it c good cover.

Or d Hey, Gilbert, I don't know who that is. You still say good cover? I think so that's what they said, good cover.

So it says this is the first time I've ever even gotten yeah, look to understanding. No, I'm normally I can never understand.

Well because a lot of times they're not that great. Uh.

This one, it says that it was in a living room on a static camera in this person's house. The voice can be heard clearly saying good cover, which is significant due to the client's comments having been describing how she'd played off her reaction as not being scared, so like she was scared and then she was like just kidding him not and then the ghost goes good caver.

Oh, I don't like that at all.

Good camera.

I don't like that. That is creepy, creepy, creepy.

Okay, here's another one.

This was posted by g P T Paranormal at a place called the Cheney Mansion.

Here we go. One's a little bit louder. Okay, wait a second, it's like a whisper.

That one's spooky too.

What do you think I hear?

Cop cop?

I don't hear that at all. How do you hear, well, here's some options. Is it a oh no, no? Is it b idahoe ce hey yo yo.

Or d I don't know.

Maybe I don't know. Oh no, I hear no, no, no, no, oh no, no, I hear no.

They believe it's I don't know.

Really, do you hear that other thing in the background, because that's what I was hearing.

Let me tune in.

It's like at the very end. No, I hear like a voice too, it's a double ev P.

I don't know, two for one.

Two for one EVP. I don't know. Let us know if you hear that other voice in there, because I'm hearing something else. Maybe it's just my own brain.

Maybe it's the people in your living room that whispered to each other sexily.

Or Ruby's in my head now giving me some judgment.

Ruby.

Okay, last thing, I'm just gonna name a bunch of paranormal stuff, and you tell me what you think, all right, if anything comes up.

The track test types that way, sure, Okay.

What do you think of witchcraft? Now?

Personally I don't really think of it as being paranormal, but it kind of goes along with the conversation.

I would say I used to be feel spooky about witchcraft, and now I have so many witch friends that I'm like, bring on the witchcraft. I have seen nothing but positivity coming from that, right, mm hmm?

All the things have you engaged in? Witch crafty?

I've done some spells. Okay, you know, we've tried a few things. I love to success A best friend spell that I put on you to try to convince you to love me for forever.

It's working.

So okay, so you have done some step But would you say that it has worked?

I would say I would say sure. It feels man at least my experience, because I'm not an experienced person. I just like learned some spells and I was like, this feels manifestation energy to me. Right, It definitely seemed to It didn't hurt.

I mean a lot of it's like vision boards, the secret like a lot of that kind of law of attraction, like that stuff witches had been doing for years, for years, no one would listen.

Now, I will tell you this. I grew up in a community that was very conservative Christians. So you hear the word witch and it's like oh oh no, no, no, no, no, I don't know. I don't know, but I remember being in one of my houses when I was five or six, and apparently in the very cookie cutter neighborhood, there was a group of women who were Wickan who would get together and do spells and it was kind of like the community, like the hushed voice is like, did.

You hear about that group?

Because it was all these Christians who are very you know, they would act scared of it or be nervous about it, and I remember being like, I want to I want to get into that circle.

Yeah, I love that, loved it.

Yeah.

Were they women that by day were Christian housewives or.

I don't know. I never knew if it was like that people knew specifically who they were. There was one specific house in my neighborhood that we would walk by and my mom would always point to that house and said, one of the Wickens lives there, and it was kind of a you know, it was said in a spooky way,

I don't know, especially nowadays, like everybody's practicing witchcraft that like anytime. I mean obviously talking like hundreds of years ago. It's incredible, but like I don't know people that did it before it was cool. I love them, love love so much respect.

What do you think about like deja vu? Synchronicities, stuff like that happen and I feel like you're full of it?

You know that I think that it's like a time warp.

What do you think?

I don't know. I always get a little well, I'm a little bit of a hypochondriac, so you know, every time I have a deja vu, I have my first thought is I'm like losing my memory, and like what's going on in my brain kind of scares me a little bit. But I don't know, it would make sense to me that there's like a little moment, a little glitch.

Okay, what about I find that with success and or close relationships, like let's say you and Becca or you and your husband, have you ever gone back or have you acknowledged things that are like this is too good to be true that we met each other?

Or yes, like what.

I mean, even just how the podcast got started was strange to me that like she said yes and showed up and she didn't know me, like come to my house. She had a bunch of offers. I had no experience, and then it just ended up working. That's strange to me.

So you think the world revolves around you?

Yes, I am very egocentric.

Okay, good to know I guess nobody else matters. What do you think about?

This is a deep one, Okay.

Do you have an idea of what happens when we die to our spirits or.

You know?

I am That's one of my biggest fears. Why I get like really really anxious about what happens after you die?

So but how do how does that go along with the ghosts that you've encountered, What do you think has happened to them?

I sure don't know. I think what helped what gives me peace in my anxiety when I'm laying in bed at night, being like what happens after we die? Is I just think about the fact that we're all energy, right, So it's like, if you die, then you're the matter and the energy you're made up of goes elsewhere. So sometimes I wonder if, like maybe those ghost moments are

I don't know. If you knew and it wasn't good, that's no. Like I wouldn't look forward to that.

I would be living in fear, like I don't want this to end because I don't want to go to the bad.

That's true. Then I guess again this is coming from me who's again raised so conservative Christian that I was always like, well, you know, I thought about that every day too, But what was so scary is like, I don't know, I don't know, but I like to think that I don't know. We carry on in some way.

The mystery is the fun part.

And I say this all the time, and I'm I'm not afraid to repeat this all the time because I hope it helps people that like talking about ghosts has taken away my fear of dying really yeah, because I've had so many conversations about it. And of course I still don't know what a ghost is. I don't know how any of this stuff works, but it just leads me to believe that it's not over when when when it's over, it makes it feel a little more that way, especially when you get into like the idea of past

I'm that I'm absolutely down for now. I have you talked to Becca, my co host on my podcast. She is so scared of entering in a new life. That's like one of her biggest fear.

But it's like going to a new high school or whatever, like that is scary.

It is. It's I'm like, yeah, it's nerve wracking, but I'm all about, like give me into that next life.

A lot of people believe, and I.

Can see this, a lot of people believe that if you don't, if there's certain lessons you didn't learn in this life, wherever you go next, you're gonna have to learn those lessons before you can go on.

To another life or else.

You're going to keep going into lives where you're put in those situations like you have to overcome whatever that is, like a.

Karmick to a certain that all goes along with that. I felt that way numerous times recently. I feel like every few like almost every six or seven years, that I'm being faced again with a very similar life lesson, like over and over. And I know one of my biggest battles in life kind of is the same thing in different versions over and over again, and the other day I'm like, is this kind of my Is this why I'm here to figure out if I'm going to conquer this challenge? And like get over this hump?

Yeah, you like have to you have to face it. Your problems are always going to come back up.

Yeah, And thinking about it like that, I like that makes me feel peaceful.

It's not too scary. I mean, I don't want to die, but like.

Oh if I could live, if science one day figures out how we can live forever, I'm like, I'm in.

Really oh yeah, no way, so hot it's going to be. I don't want to be eighty five years old when it's three hundred degrees.

At that point, I'm hoping that they'll shoot me into space somewhere. I'll be in some orb, you know, just a nice climate controlled orb. Maybe at you know, one hundred and fifty. They've gotten me to that age and I'm just floating around. Maybe Alvin's up there and with Ruby, I're.

Picture you podcasting from up there.

It's me why it's day five thousand, two, one hundred and twenty five in the Orban space. Sign me Up, Fun, sign me up.

Okay, let's do one more.

What do you think about I don't know. I feel like I've covered a lot of these with you before because we've talked before about bigfoot, haunted dolls, Ouiji boards, demons.

Do you think that there could be an existence of things like trolls or goblins?

I would say probably not, but I love to think that that. Yes.

In fact, Wow, they are so interesting enough.

So my favorite people in the world, Greg and Dana Newkirk, they are these paranormal investigators. Yes, you know about them?

Fantastic?

Do you know about Hell You're the TV show that they did. They it's it's a out investigating these goblin like creatures in Kentucky that are very similar looking to the Kelly Hopkinsville case. There's been a lot of people that witnessed that kind of stuff in that area.

So are we thinking that potentially these goblins are extraterrestrial? Yeah?

Oh my god, it's all connected.

I didn't even ever put that together. I'm like, well, the goblins, it's like again the Harry Potter energy, which I would like to think is real, but not that it's an et situation.

I mean, where do they come from? Somewhere they're not of this earth, that's true. Where are they? I don't know.

I would be absolutely down to me to goblin.

You're talking to one right now. I've been called goblin, Jess. You've been so generous.

Oh my goodness, joining me coming out here.

It is always so wonderful to be here with you.

I love talking with you.

I could talk to you for hours, tell people where to find you, and all that stuff.

Well, you can find the podcast that I'm a co host with Becca Martinez on Chatty Broad's on Everything Apple, Spotify. We have a YouTube channel as well, and my personal instagram is at the Bad Mom with two d's.

Yes, and you know, Halloween's coming up. If you want to give me a call, I will be there. We a lot of times talk about spooky stuff on Halloween together.

Oh you know, it's tradition. I mean tradition, and like I'm figuring out now, you are the energetic source in my life who cleanses all of the spookiness from my house every time you come.

I did my best.

You cleanse it. They everyone is at peace. Then when you.

Come, Oh, Okay, thank you. Well, I guess that's it.

Love it.

Thank you so much to Jess Ambros. Watch the video version of this pod link in the description. Oh also, my Patreon's there support the show, listen to my little weekly episodes, and me looking into paranormal phenomena in the different fifty states of America. All right, I guess that's it. To Halloween time. Please tell your friends about the show. Please subscribe, Hey, post about it if you want, tell you friends. I wouldn't be mad. I wouldn't be mad

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