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Okay, I got to talk to my friend Rachel, also known professionally as her initials are h Stavis. She has been on two other times, and also we did a live show together on stage and she Okay, she's an exorcist. If you're new around here, I highly recommend you go back and listen to the other two times that she was on the first time in particular, because she's a
very unique person. She has her own thing going on when it comes to her psychic medium abilities and her exorcisms, and she has different terms for different types of entities or what we a lot of people think of as demons. It's fascinating. I believe it. I've had an exorcism with her, which we will talk about today. She's just real confident about her abilities and in a way that like she can back it up. It's crazy. It's some crazy stuff. So I hope you enjoyed this episode. We had a
lot of fun. We talked about Annabelle. She has some thoughts on Annabelle. We kind of go through that, but we cover a lot of stuff in this, so I'll just keep it brief here. As always, just check out my Patreon if you want to hear me doing some bonus episodes by myself and some videos and all that really helps out the show to support it like that if you can. And I hope you're enjoying your Halloween time. Here's me talking to Rachel on with the show, back
for her third visit. One of our absolute favorite guests, Rachel Stavis, also known as our h Stavis.
Welcome, Thank you. Hi.
We've never heard these person.
I know. I can't believe I'm actually like seeing your face and sitting here like I've seen your face before obviously, but doing this.
Well, we're friends, Yes, I want the world to know that we are really friends in life. Yes, but we met over Zoom basically, I mean I reached out to you and then actually, I don't think I've ever told you this story.
The story goes back. I was in San Francisco.
Oh, and I was in this hotel room of this hotel that was like allegedly haunted whatever. Okay, I'm like in this hotel room.
This is March.
Eleventh or something like that, twenty twenty, okay, like right before and I'm like sitting there and I'm watching this TV show and you were on it, and I was like putting that person down in my phone.
That's so funny.
Yeah, in my note of like notes app of people I want on the podcast, I wanted it. Were you on the unexplained that William Shatner show?
Was it that?
I mean, they've used my clips for so many things, so I don't remember. I don't know.
It was something like that. Probably I saw you on something okay, and I was like what and then I once the pandemic was going on, then I reached out to you and then you came on the pod. I read your book, and now we're friends.
That's how it happens. That's what That's what occurs, you know.
And we we have not gone ghost hunting together necessarily, but we've hung out many times. Yes, sometimes spooky, sometimes not. It doesn't always have to be usually not spooky.
But we've seen a lot of movies.
We've seen movies together. I celebrate your birthday with you. Yeah, so lovely. Also, you gave me an exorcism I did.
And look how open you are about discussing it, Like, wow.
I don't think I've talked about it yet.
Okay, well I'm all yours.
I didn't know if you like that. I didn't know if you like when people talk about that stuff.
You know, it never matters to me. But like, I think we've talked about this before. Like, I work with a lot of high, very high profile people, and so I never out people as clients, Like, if they want to talk about it, they can, But I don't want to be the person who's like, hey, I guess who was your Like I would never do that.
Right, So, well, I'm not high profiles, So.
I mean, I don't know about that, but you're open to talk about it, I'm.
Down to talk about it, okay. First of all, so if.
Anyone is unaware of your abilities, people should read your book first of all, Sister of Darkness, But they should also listen back to the two times you've been on this podcast where you explain all this stuff that you do.
But yes, you can see.
Entity yes on somebody yes, and you could remove the entity yes.
And we also work on old trauma, stored trauma because long story shore, so we don't get into the last two episodes. But basically, all trauma and attachment work together. So if I just took entity out of someone but left all the trauma, then I wouldn't be doing anybody a service because they'd be attracting entity again. So we got to do it all.
So is there an entity back on me?
I don't see anything. Oo.
Coast is clear, this has clean.
Yes, Okay, so there was one on me? This was probably when was that two months ago? Three months ago?
What is time?
I mean, who knows?
My life got really good after Yeah, it did what I like to hear.
No, it really did.
I was like feeling down in the dumps and then you got in there, you got that demon out.
It was very relaxing.
People don't think that is what goes with exorcism.
Oh no, it is when for me?
But I don't think I levitated or did I didn't notice.
I don't think my head spun around.
No, But you, I mean, should we talk about the process of what you do?
I mean it's probably different for different people, right, it's.
Different for different people. Like I'm I go through it like seen by scene basically in the book, So like you read the book, so you know, it's like, here's the whole process basically. But I work with high beings, specific high beings that i've reallyationship that I've you know, cultivated for years and years and years. High beings have high being energy, high frequency energy. So what I do
is I push that energy through the body. The body can't hold that energy for very long because it'll start to break down, believe it or not, because we're not meant to have that energy in the body. So we do it fairly quick, like no longer than like an hour hour and a half at the most, you know, at a time, and the high energy, high frequency energy fills the body pushes the low frequency energy to the top, and then I take that out.
And it was great, It was lovely.
Afterwards, I was like any a cigarette.
And everyone's so scared to come in at first. They're like, I don't know what's going to happen.
Right, Yeah, No, it wasn't scary at all.
It's not.
It was And I was exhausted for like a couple of days after.
Which we talked about, you know, like I was like, you're gonna be really tired. You're gonna have like three days of like, who knows how you're gonna feel, but then after that, it's gonna be your new normal.
Uh huh.
And I know Bendola Krem talks about it on this podcast, having an exorcism from you, a couple of other people. I don't know if they talked about it, but I've talked to other people that have had it, and we're all like, and I've said this before about you. I'm like, you hear a lot of people talking about some stuff that is like, there's no way any of that could be real.
And I have the hardest time doubting you. I believe everything.
Well yeah, like im sorry.
The proof is like they're like you do.
Yeah, I mean that's it, you know, Like I you know me, like I don't. This is not a church. I'm not trying to convert anybody. I don't. Yeah, Like I'm not. I'm not someone who's trying to get you to think my way or believe anything that I say. Like, honestly, I don't care if people believe me or not, because it doesn't change what I do. True, you know, like you can think it doesn't exist, and that's fine, and
I'm still gonna do it. Yeah, right, so that's fine, but like it's very hard to explain to someone who hasn't gone through the process of it. How dare I say, like life changing it is because once you go through it, you cannot describe exactly what you went through, but you know you did, you know what I mean, Like something changed and I love that. Like that's one of my
favorite things about doing this. Like I I don't out people who come to me, but I wish I could in some ways, because like I always want to take a picture of them right before it starts and right after it's finished, so that they.
Can see this. They do it. You should do it.
It's like my spiritual veneers.
You should have like in your lobby, like a thing people can go through.
To to imagine, like they'd be like, oh my god, this person was here, Oh god, this person was here.
You have my permission next time I have one of these demons come back, which I hope they will, then I'm sure they will.
We'll do before and after.
It's really weird the difference though, like even to the person like I might have actually done it once just for a point, yeah, well you know, but it's like it's it's an experience.
So I'm thinking a lot about horror movies right now because it's spooky time. It is also there's a lot of good horror movies out right. Now.
What are you liking the most right now?
I just saw Barbarian I loved it.
I haven't seen it yet, but I'm it's on my list and I really want to see it.
I loved it.
I haven't seen Pearl yet.
I have any that I loved.
Acts. Did you see Acts?
Yeah? Yeah, I did a lot.
But since I'm thinking about it, there's so many of these exorcism movies. You are an exorcist, so they get it all wrong, huh.
I mean they get it movie style, you know, Like.
So movie writer.
So you're an interesting person to talk to because you write screenplays and stuff.
So yeah, you understand.
Yeah, I mean, and certain things have to look a certain way, you know, for for film or television, like they just have to, you know, it needs to feel a certain amount of theatrical obviously, but in reality, most of the time, and I'm just stating most ninety five percent of the time, people don't have anything in the
hierarchy of entity that would do that much work. Okay, right, So those are what I call movie style entities like realm walkers, which we've talked about before, which is for those of you who don't know, like the top at the top, what most people consider the devil, but it's not the Cecil Hotel, the Cecil Hotel. So you know, when you're dealing with something like that, it can be a little more dangerous. It can be a little more showy,
especially in spaces. So in spaces, the sky's the limit in terms of what it will do because that kind of entity fights back pretty hard. So that type of entity is smart. You know, that type of entity will pull sinks off walls, could bring the whole building down, groups of people sick, can make them violent, like a lot of shit could go wrong working on a building with a realm walker. Let's see, working on a person with a realm walker is dangerous in and of itself
because sometimes those people have those same reactions. So you just have to be a little more cautious and you do get more sound nuts, but you do get more stuff coming off of walls and doors opening, closing and things like that.
Have you encountered a human with a realm walker?
I have?
Yeah, can you tell that story without like you know, telling too many details about the person or anything.
Well, so there was a specific man who came in who had this, had thought that they had this. It wasn't like surprising, you know, and it's very rare. So it has to be and we've talked about this. This was have to be someone who can make great change in the world. That's the only person a realm walker cares about. But the other side of that too is that a realm walker won't attach to someone who is a naturally inclined to violence anyway, So it's risky to
work on someone with a realm walker. But this person was like borderline could go either way. So it was like actually a weirdly good time to catch it, if you will. And it took a couple days off and on, honestly, but we did get rid of it. That's the kind of entity that does make people sick and throw up. And like it's it's very theatrical, like there was that not necessarily right, but it is. It is much more theatrical.
And like I say, the doors open and close, things fall off walls, Like because you've seen my spirit room, I have a lot of masks and things like protective things in the room. That shit just falls right off.
You have that person in your home for like four days.
Not this not the home you've been in, but one my one before it?
Oh my god, off and on. But what about see and we said about this you of course there's like, especially as you go historical with these stories, could have been mental illness. It could be a lot of different things, of course, but you hear about these stories of a young child or a girl or like people that aren't they're not necessarily able to they're not world leaders or anything, but they have these stories.
Do you think that that's possible?
I think if you find I mean, okay, let's back up a little bit and just say, lots of people have entities. Not to be scary, but lots of people have entities, like so much of the population is walking around with something. But those are usually less malignant. I had one, yeah, I mean right, those are less malignant than a realm walker. That's the top at the top, right, So in the case of a child having a realm walker,
that's the case of time interfering. So in other words, that's a situation where that rom walker knows that that child's going to rise to some important occasion and so they're trying to get in early.
Ooh, yes, so they have a little gaze into the future exactly.
And even like discussing that gives me like the chills because like spirits like ooh, you just said that, but that's real, Like that does happen. So in movies, it's always like this girl on a farm in the middle of nowhere and this really smart strategic entity is just gonna take the family down. But it's like, why, what's the purpose to scare five people? That's not it? Yeah, so it needs to have a higher purpose so it's not gonna waste its time.
Interesting, yeah, because I'm always like why would they choose you?
Who cares? And also like what are you doing? So you're gonna kill these five people? And that's still right? Yeah, next that it's not how it works.
Yeah, okay, because yeah, it's like you could go anywhere, like why do you want to go out into the middle of nowhere into a farm exactly?
Only if that girl is going to grow up to be something very important. Wow.
Yeah, because like you know, you see. Okay, So let's talk about movies for a second again. So you say that there there are entities that could possess a body or do you use the word possess.
I mean if it's the if it's a realm walker.
Yes, okay, and then with that power it can affect things almost like Poltergeist type.
Have you encountered somebody levitating.
Recently?
Well recently have you ever?
I mean, it does happen, but I should I should also say that it happens not from the ground to the ceiling, like it will happen, but it will only happen about this much like you know how when you're younger, maybe you played like it, yes, where you know people are like are they up off the ground? I don't know, I don't know. It's sort of like that much. You know. It's like this just a bit, and usually just to push the body back down. It's really just to be
an asshole. It's not you know what I mean, it's not to prove itself in any way. It's just to fight back. It's fighting back essentially when it does stuff like that.
I mean, because that's the thing that's something.
That could be fun levitating if it was like in the right context.
I mean, I don't know how fun it is if you have no control over.
It, though maybe I don't know.
I mean I've joked about this before, like if you could lift me up as it goes, there's you could help me move things in my home, Like.
Well that's true, Like we could do this for good. Maybe just levitate furniture and you just point and are like put it, yes over here.
Because I live alone, I can't move my coach.
Sometimes I get it like I don't want to lift that stuff.
No, if I had just a nice entity. Have you ever encountered a nice entity?
I mean nice entities are spirit guides, angels, like I consider all of that entity no disrespect, you know, but in my mind it's all kind of entity. But you know that diamond chart in my book, it's like we're the middle, you know, humans, and then everything below us is bad entity, everything above us is good entity. Yeah.
But now those higher beings can they possess a human?
I mean I suppose they could, but they would never do it, you know what I mean, they got better things to do. Well, they have better things to do, and also they don't mess with people's free will. They're not going to just do stuff. And also they're there to help you, not take from you. So it's different the way that they would attach themselves to you. Like, for example, is those people who have car accidents and say,
something lifted me out of the car. Right, that's angels working, that's high beings working.
Oh my god. My friend Sherry Vine has the story about she was in this nightclub in New York City and she was at the top of the stairs and she fell down like she was about to go down the stairs, and she like floated down the stairs and landed like gently on the ground at the bottom of the cement stairs. Wow. And somebody else like witnessed it and they're like, you just flew She's like, I think it was an angel.
It happens, and when it's not your time to break that neck, they come out and they're like, no, that's not.
Part of the plan. Right, So you've never seen someone's head spin around?
No, God, I don't think you'd survived that. How would you survive?
I don't know, Reagan, did have you ever seen?
I wrote down a list of some things I've seen in horror movies. Oh, oh, here's a good one. Because the thing too where it becomes like maybe that wasn't mental illness. Maybe that was like a demon or whatever. When you hear these historical stories or wherever stories are the things where it's like lavitating things moving around in
the house because of it. And the one that always gets me is knowing Latin or knowing a language that they never knew, or knowing things about someone like stuff like that, or.
That does happen, that can happen?
What is that all about?
Showing off? That's what that is.
Showing off.
Showing off, that's it. And normally that happens. And I can't remember specifically in every movie where that happens, but I feel like most of the time that happens when somebody's like, I don't believe it. This person's making this up right. That's when they're like, oh am, I oh watch this right exactly. And then even that people try to explain away, you know, and and I should say, because I've said this before, and I always say this,
that mental illness and attachment are not exclusive. Like people always say, well, it's one or the other. You know, either you're you've got mental illness of some kind or attachment. That's not how that works. If you have mental illness it lowers your frequency sometimes, you know what I mean, And that's how attachment gets in any way, through lowered frequency. So you could definitely have both, you know, and one makes the other worse. I mean, attachment makes everything worse.
I should say sure, So you know, saying no we can't work on you because of this setten because you are depressed doesn't mean that's crazy to me, right.
And yeah, you explained.
And I think the first time you were on about frequency and all that, yea waste.
It's there people, people go back and listen to it.
What about superhuman strength?
I mean that actually happens to people for a lot of reasons, not just attachment. It can happen with attachment, but it's also like you know when you see someone like trying to save a child from under a car or something. Yeah, that happens. We're crazy, Like we're we're interesting things.
But like the have you ever encountered, like during exorcism, have you had the like speaking Latin or speaking.
I definitely have have had entity that likes to tell me my business.
What do you mean? So like the human being will say to you, like.
Stuff about my past, stuff about this, stuff about.
That now that's very the movie the exorses.
Right, and it does happen, that actually does. I'm again not with like ninety five percent of entities. We're talking about hardcore situations.
But that's the spooky shit.
I that spooky shit. So yes, that can happen, and it has happened, and every time it happens. You know how in movies? What is it in movies that you can't listen because they lie? Like they always tell you, like, don't listen to the dmon It lies, right, sure, and I guess it lies. I don't know. But more importantly,
it tells the truth. So more importantly it likes to like hook in by telling you cool like stuff about your past, like I know about this, and I know about that, and I know about this weird stuff when you were five and this happened, And so it more tells the truth in my opinion. So when it does that, you know, you know me like if I may, I'm always like you can fuck off nothing stopping this. You can keep telling me all about myself. I'm make me
a narcissist. That's fine. I'm still gonna do the work. You know, it's trying to deter every one of those things is just a deterrent trying to get you to stop, trying to be able to catch its breath, trying to be able to continue.
Oh my god, it is so scary to me.
Like it's like my everyday business.
I've all of a sudden it said something like, when you were fourteen, I know what you did with that that picture of Josh Doumel, And I was there. I saw it like I would be like the Dame of.
Flying well, and you know what, you don't get scared when I say that to you.
That would scare me too, I don't see. That's one thing I don't like about psychics. I don't like people. I told the story one time on this pod. I had a friend that had psychic abilities, and it creeped me out knowing that he could know things private things about me.
Well, did he did he do that?
Like?
Did he ever say like I did?
One time?
So that's not.
Cool to prove to me that he was real. And then I was like, oh, you're real, But wait a minute.
What else do you know about?
You know what creeps people out? So I'm generally I would say a pretty kind, nice, even killed person. But every now and again, Well, thank you. Every now and again I come across someone whose energy is just like, oh, I just don't like it because you know, maybe they're not those people, you know what I mean, they're not
like great people. And so whenever I've come in contact with that, and especially when people are like they don't believe what you do and they're just like very dismissive and just really condescending, and like, you know, that does happen. Sometimes you're in a group of people and this person just met you and they're just kind of whatever.
Yeah.
What I love to tell them is that I see the the worst things people have ever done first, and they never talk to me again. No, because it's true, though, do you ever prove it? I've never see I feel like I'm too nice to be like in a group of people in a function and be like, hey, so I know you did this, Like that was really disturbing. Oh god, I don't do that generally, right, but you could. I mean, it's there. I'm just saying it's there.
Because that's the thing.
We So we did a live show last Halloween together, but it wasn't recorded, so if you weren't there, you missed out. Uh, and we talked more on that about your psychic medium type abilities, right, which that's a whole other thing that you have as well.
I feel like it's kind of all you know, once you're connected to spirit, you're kind of connect to the spirit. So I never, well, you know, like I never will tell people like I'm a medium. I don't call myself that at all. I don't do that for people for
the most part. But once a year I do, like I host a seance just for friends and like close people, and I do what you call platforming, which is essentially, you know, you stand there and the group is there, and you just kind of decipher whatever comes in and yell it out to people.
Oh I witnessed I went to your one yes and that was powerful.
Thank you. It's it's really interesting because I and again you know, like I have like things I say before I start, which is like I have no idea what's going to come in. I don't know if a relative or friend of yours is going to come in, Like if there's like thirty people, you know, I don't know. I don't know who's pushing us. I don't know which deceased person's going to be pushing us. It's basically what I'm saying. I think. So you know, you might as
one person have multiple reads that come in. Someone may not get you know any me. Well, I'm sorry, I just don't know. But it could happen this time, you know what I mean. It depends on how pushy the deceased people are, Like the most aggressive usually get in first. So there's like if you can picture it, like a line is not quite this, but like a line of dead people are like, yeah, everybody's here, like okay, me first, No, me, me.
You're literally a bouncer because you let them in in the list and then you kick the ones out that are bad.
I do. And And also one of the things that I always tell people before I start is if we get too deep, like if you have someone come through that you have issues with because they want to force themselves into your life right now and put it all on display and because they're looking for some kind of forgiveness. If that's not cool for you, you tell me to stop, and I'll stop. And that has happened. That has happened, like with people's deceased parents who were like not great.
You know, they're trying to get there, like then you're forced to be I just tell them no, I just stop reading them completely. Okay. You know, like if someone's getting that the messages and they nod and they want to continue, I'll keep going right like you've seen that. But if they're starting to cry and they're starting to get upset and it's starting to get too pushy and they're like, no, we cut that right off.
Got it? So what?
And it's a question. And I always preface this when I ask people this because I don't know the right way to ask the way.
Doesn't it your nails? You have ghosts on your nails?
Yes, it's a ghost friends so cute? Yeah, the ghost French manicure. What are your abilities? Like, what are your psychic abilities? So you can clairvoyant? You can you know?
Oh like in what way do they come in?
Yeah?
Yeah, okay. So for me, it's kind of weird because I'll get words, I'll get pictures, but mostly I'll get feelings. So when I do these seances, it will be it's totally normal. This is another thing I tell people before I start. It's totally normal for me to cry. It's totally normal to like get into because what happens is it's almost it's not possession, but it's like the spirit
kind of walks their feelings into you. Okay, so if they have an emotional situation with someone, even if it's good, it's so overwhelming that you just can't help but feel every feeling. And sometimes and I again, I can't remember what happened last time, but like I know for a fact a few times when I've done this, I'm like,
you need to push back. It's too much, like I can'll never be able to share the message with all your feels up and here, like, yeah, you need to you need to tone it down, summer it down.
Yeah, yeah, so can you what about like future stuff like can you see into the future? Not really, No, that's probably for the best.
Yeah, that's a tough one.
Yeah, I don't know what people do that.
Yeah I don't. I don't. Of course, we all want to know, like are we going to get this job or like whatever, but like I don't, I don't think that's good.
I mean for me, I don't know that it would be good for me either. I think whenever I ask, like I'm impatient also, and so I'll ask spirit, like what do you think of this? What do you think of that? And they will give me real vague answers because they don't want really me to know.
Yeah, so you know it's probably for the best.
Have you had any anything that as normal people that don't see demons would consider real terrifying lately? Because you get these visits in the night I do from creatures.
Well on occasion, I'll get this is so ridiculous. So several halloweens ago, I bought one of those like little prop you know, spooky doll things, the ones that like, like uh, are on like rocking chairs and shit, you know, like the little ones, the ones that are like on the table, tabletop, spooky doll. Sure, the little animatronic that you turn on has like a couple things it says
and it lights up. Okay, So I bought this one total mass market item, but of course I brought it home with me, and so the thing it was, we're supposed to say, which I can't even remember what it was, was just like you know, ring around the rosy or some shitah, which is always the scariest, like a lullaby. Yes, it was like, you know, one of those like creepy, but I thought, oh, it's cute though, put it around
for how I don't know. I liked it adorable, So I brought it home with me into my you know, haunted cave, and all of a sudden, the things that it was supposed to say didn't. It didn't say them anymore, and it just started going off scripts and just saying shit, when you press the button it went, it did, that's not your line. It totally did. So it started to say like, it started to ask who I was and where it was, and like what was going on? And why is it so dark in here? And like all
just weird random shit. It totally did. And so I would try to get it to do that for other people when they came home, and it would just do the same thing the factory said it would do, and it just wouldn't do it for anybody else. The only other person who saw it was Kate, and she made me put it in the garage. She won't look at it anymore. She's like, this thing is gross. I don't want it here. So I had to put it away.
Do you think it was a haunted item that what was it? Or is it a deem an entity trying to.
It was probably just like a bunch of diseased people messing with me and decease people that are just around that are just like, hey, look at this hat adull. We'll just make it more hometed.
Is it dark in here?
I'm so lonely.
Yeah, this sounds like a fun thing. It's Halloween time for them.
To I mean, they do like to play with people. This is the thing. This is why it's so funny to me that ghost hunting exists, because it's like, disease people are everywhere and want to mess with you, And like, what's the word hunting? Exactly?
Yeah, I mean typically it means.
Killing, right, so like what what what.
Is that catching? I think it should be ghost catching.
Or you're not just ghost getting to know you?
Yeah?
Yeah, ghosts mingling.
Ghost mingling. I like that. We're just we're just having a little get together. We're having a dinner party. We just want to get to know you.
Why do you think that when people go out looking for it they have a hard time because.
They're usually really messy about it, okay, and they're not respectful, Like think about it. You go into a place like an asylum, right, some abandoned asylum where there was so much pain and agony and torture and like terrible things happened there, and we're just thinking of basically making a mockery of this. We're going in with our whatever divining rods and shit, and we're trying to like prove that
something exists here. But it's like, actually, you're just going in to be disrespectful, right, Like if you went into those spaces This again sounds cheesy, but like if you went into those spaces open with love to heal, you would get a very different response from anybody in the space, you know, like with Celebrity Exorcism, the TV show you did last year, Yes, right exactly, So I did that last year and people are just now covering it.
Yeah, we just went to the American Horror Story house. I did.
I did. I went to the mansion and you know it did have a haunted past. I think I told you we did. We talked about this when we did the live event, so I don't know what I said already, but like I was really skeptical before we went to the space because I didn't know what the space was. And they were like, yeah, it's this house, and I was like houses don't typically have entity, so I'm not going to lie and say there's entity if there's not,
like you know. So they were like, that's cool, just let us know, like you know, they were actually really good about it. So I went to the space a week before we filmed in the space and lo and behold, there was actually entity. But the entity was in the basement. And I was like, this is weird, because why is
it just in the basement, you know? And as I walked through the space, I realized that, oh, there's a lot of deceased people in the space, and oh there's a lot of nuns in the space for some reason. And I didn't know anything about the history. I didn't want anybody to tell me anything. I just wanted to walk through and oh, someone committed suicide over here, and like, whoa god, there's so much stuff going on in this one house, like what the hell? And the house of
course is enormous. It's huge, huge, huge, huge, huge, And so eventually I was like, Okay, here's everything that's in here. Here's the names of all these people, here's all these nuns. Tell me about these nuns because these nuns are in here, and like the nuns are keeping the entity down in the basement, like they won't let it come up, but
they can't get rid of it all the way. So then I find out, you know, because now we're having a conversation that yes, it used to be like like a convent and there's like a chapel in the space, and like there was like a bunch of murders in
the basement. They didn't know this, but this is what came through, and it was something about prohibition and like using the house during that time, and there was like a lot of gambling and a lot of weird stuff going on in that basement, which is what attracted this particular entity. And then the nuns figured that out and
we're able to push it down. And then when they pass, they stayed to protect the house, which is why they had so much conflicting stuff going on, like between floors, so like one floor was totally clean, another floor was like real messy. The first floor was like between both the basement and the you know. So it was like
different feeling energy in every space. But one thing that everybody felt beforehand, like when we walked in, when you were in a space, So let me just say this for people when you are in a space that has high frantic energy, like a lot of deceased people, an entity both, you know whatever. If you are sensitive enough, you will feel like you are underwater. That's the sensation that you're just walking through water. Your head will be spinning,
like everything is like, you know, slightly. I don't know what that feeling is, but you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, that's the feeling you'll get when there's a lot of like a massive amount of energy on a space. And everybody felt that in that space.
Jodi Sweden, Yeah, oh yeah, yes, who I saw at a party last week.
Yeah, oh that's right.
Yeah.
I was too afraid to go to her and go so you had celebrity experts.
Oh no, I'm sure she would have been flattered. And she's very sweet and yeah, everyone on there was so good, like Shah and Meta and they're wonderful, and everyone was really trying to I think, like really truly truly experience their gifts and like tune into everything and do the work. So it was really interesting to see that happen over
a week's time, because that's what we did. We did it for a week and see everybody kind of be able to talk to spirit and be able to sense the deceased people, and you know, it's like cool to watch.
Yeah, oh my gosh, I'm thinking about this entity in the basement, which because you can, I believe what you did, if I'm not mistaken, was you took the bad out and you kept the good.
Yeah, so you know, I ask, so the house is owned by someone, and don't I'm not going to disclose any of that stuff, but I did ask the homeowner, what do you want to do? Because I don't like taking ghosts out of a space. I don't like it unless they're like really pain in the assy. I really don't like it because most of the time deceased people I'm okay, So I am a deceased people's advocate. I am. I really hate that people are constantly afraid of deceased people, though I totally understand it.
Right, I feel the same way too, But I'm also I'm an advocate for them too. But I think that anytime people don't have boundaries dead are alive.
It's scary that right, Well, that's true.
People appearing and disappearing in front of people's eyes. If you're a magician, or a ghost that's terrifying, Like stuff like that is scary.
It can and it can be, and like oftentimes they're not trying to be scarier, they're trying to communicate, but they don't know. They just don't know. So it's it's like a whole thing. But you know, in this case, I was like, listen, these people who are deceased here want to be here, Like this is a choice. They're stuck here. Not nobody's trapped here. This is where they
chose to be. So what do you want to do? Like, if it's not bothersome to you, I'd like to leave them so that they can oversee your family and make sure things are okay, and like that's all they want to do. And so the homeowner was like, actually, I feel really good about that because I have had instances with one of the nuns or this nun or that
non and it's been really good for my family. So I don't I would rather not take them out, just take the thing out that is scaring everyone and causing damage.
So the nuns were there not just to keep the demon down or the no they would.
Just wanted like to be a part of the like they were very like they very much loved the space, and they wanted to make sure things were safe. They just always wanted to make sure things were safe, and like they also there was one particular nun who was brought there young and was pregnant and killed herself in the house. And so she's very much like obsessed with looking over the family and like, you know, making sure everyone's happy and like if there's anybody like in a
bad space, you know, she likes to be there. And so it's just nice, you know, like this is the thing that ghosts can be. It can be nice to have ghost. Like I have a ghost and I really love him. You're a ghost, of course I do.
Who's your goal? Of course you do. Who's your ghost?
My ghost is the ghost of the stuntman who built my house.
What.
Yes, he was a Hollywood stuntman and he built my house and it was his house for many many years, and he watches over the house. So he, oh, my god, I don't even know if I should go here. I'm just gonna go here. I'm just gonna go I'm going to a place. I'm going to a place I don't know I want to. So he generally does not like yelling or man yelling. He doesn't like man yelling. He
doesn't like bad male energy. And he will make any man who comes into the house that is like not a great guy sick immediately, wow, immediately, he will make them sick. He is very much about ladies, so he likes that, and he's fine with guys that are like cool and nice. He doesn't like anyone who raises their
voice to you. That really pisses him off. And he also goes around at like I would say, two three in the morning, Like he goes around several times a night to check the locks and make sure that the locks are locked.
And what is that like, like you hear the doors.
Yeah, he jiggles the locks and he will he'll turn the lock if he thinks it's not locked enough. Like if you forget, I mean I shouldn't. I don't forget to lock the door, but like he will check and make sure that it's locked.
That's so sweet.
Actually does that, he does that, and like he's a real gentleman. Kate didn't know that for like the longest Yeah, I didn't know that for the longest time. And then one night woke up and heard locks jiggling, and of course it's like very scary.
Yeah, it seems like someone's trying to get in.
Right, much scarier than the deceased person in my opinion. So she like ran out and she just saw the doors doing this and like jiggling and then not them from the front door to the side door to the spirit room door, just jiggling all the locks.
Oh my god, So how did you find out that that's what was going on there? Like?
Did you?
I mean he told me, you know, because I can speak to them, so he was just like I checked the locks and making sure you close the locks.
But okay, So when when you first moved in, you were you instantly like, oh, there's a man here.
I instantly felt a presence, but it was instantly nice, like I just was. I liked it a lot. But even before I moved in, when I went to look at the house, I was like, oh, this feels good. This is good, you know. And then of course as I moved in got settled, I was like, hi, hello there, and I've been there a long time now, so it's like, you know, we're confet with each other.
Did you because you're somebody that's being as legit as I know you are. Do you feel the need to get to research and kind of corroborate your story or you're just like.
I think I got like I know exactly what this is.
I prefer not to at first, like it's nice to have confirmation, So yes to a point, yes, and to a point, I've received confirmation on his existence, you know what I mean. But like in the beginning, even with the Rehinehart mansion, I didn't want anybody to tell me anything, and there's not a lot believe it or not, aside from like it's a spooky mansion, there's not a lot of information about why it's a spooky manchion, like on any kind of record. So I was like, Okay, don't
tell me anything, don't talk to me. I need to go through the rooms because I would much rather. It's like, you know, when someone comes in for an exorcism, I don't know anything about them. Even if there's someone that I'm supposed to know everything about. I'm really bad and terrible at that. I don't research people at all. So you know, when they come in, when they tell me something that I guess is even public knowledge. Ninety nine
percent of the time. I don't know that anyway, So I'd rather you say nothing first, you know what I mean, Like, you can tell me what's going on with you currently, but you don't tell me much about your past or your history or any of that stuff. I would rather it come in authentically from spirit and tell you this is what's going on with you, which in celebrity exorcism, actually you can see a lot of that because they didn't tell me those things. And regardless of whether that's
public information or not. Like I said, I'm really bad at that. Like I'm terrible at doing anything online.
Yeah.
I literally posted my verse TikTok video today.
Oh congrats, tell people where to follow you.
I'm an R. H. Davis on everything. That's so that's me everywhere. So if you like this kind of thing, that's where it is.
Yeah. Wait.
So with this man though, did you so you found out like did they tell you when you moved in? Oh it was built by a stuntman.
No. I didn't know for the longest time, and then I found out later and I was like, oh, this is yeah, of course that's who's here, Like, yes, that's him.
Have you ever watched one of his like movies or something.
I haven't. I don't. I'm like a little nervous about doing that. I don't know, why is that weird?
I think he would like it.
He probably would like it, maybe for Halloween. Yeah for him.
What do you know what movies he was.
In or I don't know offhand. I'd have to look, yeah, I'd have to look. But he was like very famous.
Cool.
Yeah, I love that.
I hadn't know. I didn't even know that you lived with a ghost.
Oh yeah, Okay, Well, this theme today is kind of Hollywood and demons and entities and ghosts and stuff.
It seems we went there.
Yeah, we went there.
But okay, this is kind of a basic ghost story for a podcast. But I wanted to get back to the basics. Okay, I talk about annabel okay, because I was like, I need to brush up on what the Annabelle story is.
I get confused with the movie right right right, and like I.
Pretty much I was like, oh, okay, I actually did know this entire story, but you know the.
Real story, right it's like a raggedy ann.
Yes, she was really a raggedy ant dohll yes, okay, which is just like with real movies nowadays, there's this trend of these gorgeous actresses that put all these prosthetics to play another you know, to play a real person. Same thing happened to annabel The actress that played annabel and the movie did not look anything like the real Annabelle.
That's true, that's true. So you know, that's what I wouldn't have known them on the street at that raggedy andhl.
No, No, that's what they do in Hollywood. It's terrible.
I feel bad for the real Annabelle because the real Annabelle didn't look scary really, unless you think it raggedy and doll is scary.
But like people have seen a raggedy and doll, like the mass market produced non porcelain, you know, like it's like a fluffy.
Like a floppy old doll with all Yeah.
But the one in the movie like she's she's had some work done.
I mean, it's not something you would just be like, this looks nice.
Yeah. No, No, for my grandma.
The doll in the Annibal movie, nobody ever would buy that.
Doll unless they wanted a creepy doll. Well maybe they were like this is exactly what I've been looking for one. That's the kind of doll that they sell on eBay, right that they're like, oh, take a look at all of the is like orbes around Annabelle.
Well, yes, I'm obsessed with the eBay Haunted dolls and they're so fun. Annabelle, as I've said before, she's like the Kim Kardashian of haunted dolls. I think the ones on eBay they all want to be Annabelle. The Annabelle's is kind of the.
I mean, she's the movie star of them all.
She is.
And I think there's a lot of people, a lot of dolls on eBay that think that they're going to get their franchise.
I feel like a lot of dolls wish that they'd reached out to the Warrens as well.
I'm sure they did. Yeah, well they might reach out to you to be careful.
So the real story is nineteen seventy a nursing student named Donna, though some say her name was Deirdre.
She was given this raggedy.
And dohl, which is believed to have been purchased at a second hand store by her mother for her twenty eighth birthday.
Which is for a raggedy a doll.
You know, she got twenty eighth birthday. I'm not going to make any judgment about that, but all right, she's, you know, twenty eight years old.
She got a raggedy a doll. Okay, but it wasn't just any old raggedy ann doll.
I guess this was an extra raggedy and doll because this one had a demon allegedly inside of it. So she brings it home to her apartment that she shared with another nursing student named Angie. And at first it's all cute. They're having fun. Look at this key little doll we have, and then they started noticing that it was moving around.
The house by herself.
Okay.
They would leave around the couch, go to work, they'd cross her legs, and then they'd come home and they would be uncrossed.
Okay, just like.
Little things like that.
Or they would go home, they'd have her on the couch, then they'd go to work. Then they'd come home and she'd be in a bedroom with a door shut.
Which I say, give Annabelle her privacy, all.
Right, yeah, I mean, okay, let her.
Do whatever she's gotta do. Don't bother Annabelle.
So what turned it from okay privacy.
Then she started to leave notes around the house. This is all in the movie too, where she left notes around the house on parchment paper that said help me things like that, And apparently they didn't own any parchment papers, so they're like, where is she getting this parchment paper?
This is before Amazon Prime. I don't know where she was.
Maybe she was stuffed with it. It could be then how she holding it with those raggedy ann hands, right, I got questions?
So then Angie the roommate, her boyfriend Lou. There seems to be a couple of different tellings of this story, but apparently all Right taking a nap one day on the couch and Annabelle's in the couch too, and he has this dream that she's craying on top of him and choking him, and then he wakes up but he's got seven scratches on his stomach and chest and they're deep. And then apparently they went away very quickly after that,
within a few days. Another version of the story is that he was in the house and he heard somebody going through his girlfriend's bedroom. He goes in there and she's just like laying on the ground like what so I don't know.
I don't know, but he well.
Also to make the story even more dramatic, the first story where he wakes up with an app he wakes up after this nightmare and he's like, you can't hurt anybody. He's like yelling, like you're just a fake raggedy handle.
And then he throws her.
And then that's when it was like, Scratch, I have questions, please, I don't have answers, but let's ponder.
So when he was dreaming of this raggedy handle, was it legit? The raggedy andl was.
It because already things are happening in the house, So.
It wasn't like something else, you know what I mean, Like it didn't appear, and it's like true for him, it was like raggedy handle. And then somehow this very soft itea Scratch, gave him all these deep wounds.
There's a demon inside and demons have claws. Dum.
I mean, it's very funny.
Not knowing anything about demons, Okay, So I learned as I go. So then they call it a medium, okay, and this medium says that it is a six or seven year old girl named Annabelle Higgins who was killed in a car accident outside of the apartment at some point, and she's gotten into this doll and.
She wait outside of their apartment. Yeah, so she knew. Okay, let's let's back up here. Okay, so she knew to get into this doll, or supposedly was already in the doll, just waiting for what this mom to come to bring the doll back to the apartment.
Well, maybe she wasn't in the doll before. Maybe once the doll gets to the house, then this girl's spirit around the house is like, oh, I'm going to get in the doll.
Okay, Oh, here's.
A descal for me to caral in.
So we're saying it wasn't haunted, then it was haunted.
Then it became haunted. That's with this medium, I think said okay, okay. But so then the girls are like, ah, like we have a little friend, like she she wants you know, she's just this little girl.
So they're like, you can stay with us, like, no big deal, just don't scratch my man, you know. And then it starts to.
Take a turn.
I heard it got pretty ugly.
Things are getting a little ugly, and that's when the girls are like, okay, never mind when we said you should come in here and be our friend, Like you're being creepy. Yeah yeah, I was a little like, okay, you totally said I could just be.
Here, and now you're it's disrespectful.
Yeah.
So they get in an episcopal priest. They hit up the priest, who as you do. Yeah, they call up the priest and the priest was like, actually, I'm gonna talk to my superior, and then the superior is like, oh, actually the Warrens are gonna deal with this ad and Lorraine Warren. Okay, So the Warrens come in and they're like, do you know ghosts don't possess objects, only demons too? Do you feel that way too?
I feel no really about both. Honestly. The only time that like, a ghost in my in my experience doesn't really have a need to go into an object because there's a round like you don't need to be an adult to move shit in someone's apartment or haunt them, right, But same for demons, you don't really need an item to do that either. So anytime that someone's like I'm telling you there's a demon in this item, I'm like,
there's no reason for that. That's an inanimate object. The only reason for that would be to get close to a person. So because there's nothing to take from the object, we want to take from you. That's the feed, right. So to me, it's like an extra step most demons would not take. I don't know why you would do it.
Waste of time.
It's kind of a waste.
It's scary.
I mean, it's it's good. Theatrics it is.
It's a movie.
It's great for a movie, funny enough.
The warns felt pretty similar to that. They think that they went wrong.
The girls went wrong when they welcomed it into their house and they said, oh no, you can say all that. That's when things went wrong because it was really some kind of demon. As they would say that.
Demons are not vampires. They don't need to be invited. They don't give two shits about your free will. They'd rather you don't even know they're there, right, So they don't need that. They don't need you to be like, oh, demon, I love you so much, why don't you hang out with me? You know, like, they don't need any of that. So, I mean, it's cute, it's nice. I'm gonna hang out no matter what they do, what they want to do until you expel them out.
But it kept the girls from calling up the priest or whatever. They were just like, oh stay like you.
Know, yeah, I mean I guess it's like good fool times, like you know, like, hey, it's sweet, I guess.
So yeah, they the Warrans also like what you said, believe that it was just basically using this doll to get.
Closer of course, yeah, so that I could possess. So then the demons are like, all right, we're gonna start.
The did I say the demons? The Warrens are like, okay, we're gonna take this doll with us because we got this museum that they can put it in. And they tell the priests like, okay, you clean up, like you know, get anything, do exorcism on this house, and.
We're going to take the doll. We're out of here.
Okay.
So apparently, as the Warrens are leaving this house, they put an a belt in the back seat and they buckle her in.
Okay.
And as they're driving, they're having break problems with their car okay, and it's scary. So then Ed Warren pulls out his Holy Water and he like puts it all over the doll and then the brakes are fine. Okay, how do you feel about that?
I mean again, whether they took the object or they didn't make no difference, because it wouldn't stay with the object. If the goal was to work there its way into one of these women, then it would just stay in the house. Okay if you took think about it, logically, even from the story that was just told, if you took the item that supposedly the demon was in, why do you need someone to exercise the space? Now you
took it, right, So that makes no sense. And now we're taking this supposedly demonic doll that we're not exercising at all. By the way, we're just leaving it because I don't know why now we're going to put it in another space. I don't understand. Please please explain, because to me, it's like, no, you just do the exorcism and get it all out, okay, you know.
So okay, because yeah, that is kind of like a movie belief or I think a lot of people would believe that, Yeah, the demon would be attached to the doll.
So it goes wherever we bring the doll the demon goes.
But so what you're saying is, no, it wanted specifically the girls.
I mean that's where it ended up, right, So whether it wanted them specifically or not, who knows, right, But now it has them, Now it's in the space. Now it's feeding off them. Okay, so now someone's just going to take the doll and it's going to be.
Like, no, it would go to the do on the house, but that was after no once. Yeah, as the warrants take the doll out of the house, the priest doesn't act.
But see that that's an oxymoron to me because you're saying it's in the doll. So if I take the doll, all of your troubles go with with the doll. So why then would you then exercise the house because you believe.
Thank off that demon stank. That's just kind of lingering around.
Just it's ridiculous. I don't know.
Listen what I always say, the Warrens, they were very early on and a lot of this kind of research, and they were figuring it out.
As I mean, yes, yes, so but okay.
Now listen to this.
Okay, the demon doll can a bell goes to their house and Why because they have a museum where people go and see their haunted objects.
Why if it's dangerous, why would you do this?
They eventually put it in the glass case.
What does that do?
It keeps it in there? Why because it wants to get out?
What does glass have to do with it? It's the demon?
Yeah, but it's like a pet. It's like if you had an iguana or something. It's not a pet to the Warrens. It's a pet.
That's real trouble. Let me tell you.
I don't know, okay.
So so they say, oh, and before they put it in the little aquarium.
Their Ghosts of Inequana.
Their demon aquarium, they noticed that it was moving around.
They saw it levitate in the house.
They put her in an outside office building that was like separate on the property. They locked it. She would turn up inside. She would pick the lock or whatever and somehow get back inside the house.
Demons don't need locks.
You're no fun.
So then they put it in the in the box, the glass box. They put the Lord's prayer on it. They put the Saint Michael's prayer on it. And and I've seen pictures of it. They have like a dem the devil tarot card on the outside.
Uh what does that do?
I don't know.
You tell me, No, I don't know. I don't know what that does. I'm really curious. Is that to tell people?
Is the devil don't come near?
It?
Could be does it cancel it out?
Or a tarot card? I don't think so, I don't know.
I don't know.
So Apparently one time a priest was there and was kind of making fun of the dolls, saying that it wasn't haunted. Can you guess what happened next?
It stabbed him in the heart.
No, he was driving home and he totaled his car.
I see. Okay.
Another time a guy was there, also not believing in it. And oh wait, but also the priest says that before he totaled his car, he saw her in his rear view mirror.
Okay, so he was alive.
He did he didn't die. He didn't die, But allegedly there was a guy that did die. He died in a motorcycle accident on the way home after making fun of her.
I mean, demons don't like being made fun of.
I can.
I can say that's true.
Now you're saying there is a demon in this doll.
No, I'm saying in general generally speaking, Wait, I've.
Asked you before if I'm allowed to make fun of demons or if they're gonna come get me, and you said it was fine.
Oh, it's fine. It's they just don't like it.
Because I'm gonna call you at three o'clock in the morning and say you said that I can make fun of demons, and now Raggedy Ann's ass is crawling on me when I'm trying to sleep.
Listen, if that happens, let me know, because I would have more questions. So first of all, I'd be like, why did you buy a Raggedy Ann doll? First of all, when you know that you know the consequence, she's clearly trouble.
It's possible.
So what do you take from this story? Like, do you think so it doesn't seem like you believe that the doll was able to get back the demon traveled with the doll back home.
I mean, it doesn't need the doll, that's the thing. And also, let me clarify that if it was the ghost of a child, that's not a demon.
Well it wasn't. They made that right.
But I'm just saying just generally speaking, whenever someone's like, the ghost became a demon because people think that. I don't know why they think that. I guess many movies have been made where a ghost turns into a demon, but that's not real.
Well that isn't it that they're doing an impression to try to like to try to get in reality.
Yes, so, yes, like a demon, a trickster kind of demon will tell you whatever you want to hear so that it can have a symbiotic relationship with you, which is I'm guessing what this thing kind of was. I don't know. I never really like looked looked at it, you know what I mean. I wasn't there, so I don't know. But it doesn't really need the doll at all.
It could be a coincidence that the demon was like, actually, I like the doll. I'm going to go with the doll like you ladies have been fun. I want to go with the doll.
Well, it wouldn't surprise me that the demon was angered by being pulled out of that situation that it was comfortable in and then wanted to kind of take it out on whoever did that, you know what I mean?
What about going back to what we were saying earlier, what if the demon was like and the Ring Warren. Maybe they're not super famous now, but there's gonna be a movie series about this in the future.
I want to go it's going to affect the world.
Like what you're saying earlier, there's a movie franchise in my future. I'm going with them.
I mean, that is possible. But that is like not a realm walker. So the hilarious thing about that would be like, this is a very like self centered demon.
Yeah, it sounds a lot like the town we live in. I could see a demon being like I want to be. I know Warner Brothers are gonna be calling them.
I mean, I guess it's possible. Listen, what do I know? Yes, that is possible, because.
It kind of seems like that could be an explanation.
It could be. I mean that that's not out of the question. It's not okay, and I mean I love the Conjuring movies.
Okay, now, wait, what about this. What if we look at a picture. If I pull up a picture of the real Annabelle, do you could you see if there's a demon?
I can look, Okay, I can't guarantee you anything.
See I think I have what I do have one?
And is this supposed this picture you're about to show me? It was supposedly when it was.
I don't know.
I don't know when it was taken.
But this is the real Annabelle with her devil Tarot card.
I don't know what that means. I also really enjoyed the look and feel of this picture. I feel like you should show people this picture.
Oh yeah, totally.
It's a good it's a vibe, it's cute.
I like it. I said, I don't know what this lady is in the corner.
I mean, it's terrifying, isn't wasn't their whole jam like they were like, this object has a spooky thing, we're gonna take it. Mm hmm. So they have some.
Kind of history, I think, or trauma.
Right, Like this object is causing you trouble, so we're just gonna take it kind of I think. So, Okay, didn't they make it like a Friday the Thirteenth series like that?
I don't know.
Maybe someone must remember that unless I'm making this up. Okay, I'm looking at this.
Can I be honest with you, Please don't go ahead.
There's nothing in that doll. Now that's not to say there's nothing in the room, but there's nothing in that doll.
Oh okay.
So in other words, that makes sense to me because again it's using the doll for whatever spooky show it's making, but it doesn't need the doll, right like underglass isn't going to keep that thing from coming out? Why not? Because that's not how demons work. Like imagine if I could just be like, I'm gonna lock the door, you guys don't come in.
Well, but okay, they were doing prayers over it.
I mean, that might be something, but it's still not in the.
It'd be like the nuns and your story, like the keeping them keep. Could there be the power of their prayers and their beings being it in there?
I'm but the box wouldn't matter.
Huh.
I'm not saying that can't do anything, because I don't know that for one hundred percent, But I'm telling you from looking at the picture, it's not in the doll. It's not in the box.
Okay.
So whether the prayers were keeping it in whatever room this is, I cannot tell you. But clearly what you're telling me is the answer is no. Because people died after leaving.
You know, some say coincidence could be a thing. I don't know.
So from your experience, could a demon get exhausted? I mean we're talking about nineteen seventy that's like I'm not good at math, but I think that's what fifty two years or something.
So yes, could it? Actually I think that was right mathoo? So could it be.
Like you know what, I'm sick of this? Yes, this was fun being a raggedy a doll, well.
Especially if it has to fight something. So like part of the reason, going back to celebrity exorcism, which you can watch on to be for free, for free, what was interesting about that entity? And I don't want to give too much away, that's what people watch it. But what was interesting about that entity is because the nuns had pushed down so much with their own energy, it was just stuck in the basement. But it could also
walk the grounds of the house. So that's a place where a lot of people like to go and take a photo. They take a selfie at, like the gates's very popular because it's not really that hidden. It's pretty open, so you can walk up all day and night and take a picture there. And the entity was taking little bits out of everybody who was going up to take pictures,
very small things. So if you were a person who took a photo there, you might have felt dizzy, you might have felt tired all of a sudden, you might have had a headach. Like that's how it was working. But for a demon the size an entity, the size of it as it was, that was not enough food. So it just, I know, I kind of did too,
to be honest, I kind of did. It was pretty sad like, and it's been there so long and so in essence, when I went there, it was almost like putting it out of its misery at that point because it was tired and didn't really want to do this anymore and was just like over not being sustained enough. But it couldn't really do anything about it, you know what I mean. So I kind of came in and took care of that.
It wasn't pretty easy.
It wasn't my most difficult like it tried. It tried to fight a little bit in the beginning, but it really was tired, it really was. And it was so funny because I don't know if we talked about this, but like so there were a bunch of guys who were doing like camera work and things on the show, on that show, and they had to be in that place much earlier than me. I came in basically to do the work and that was it. So it was
really late. You know, they were in all days setting up, and what you don't see on camera because I don't know why they didn't want to show this. I think it's most interesting part of all. But whatever you know is that they were being touched and pushed and like they were feeling the entity every time they went down into that There's a specific space in the basement which you'll see if you watch it, like where it totally was the place where it was like kind of lurking.
Every time they walked in there. They were like, you don't even know how many times this thing pushed me today, Like a lot of times. And so when I went in to do the cleansing, they like one person would follow me in through all these spaces to catch it to see, you know, how it went. And when we got to that one space, no one would come in with me. They were like pulling back and like pulling the lens. They were like, and no, we'll just hang out and we'll.
Stick it in there.
Nobody came in, so I thought that was really funny. I'm like, here's me, like barefoot holding Magucci is like going through you know, doing my thing, and like the men are like, nope, no, I will not come in there.
Wait. I've probably asked you this before, but like a demon can see you and know that you are not like most people.
Right, Yeah, that's the problem. That's why I don't like to spend a lot of time in a space that holds an entity before I go to do the work. It can become dangerous, like shit, well, especially if there's other people in the space, that can be dangerous for them. The more that the longer it lingers and goes on, the worse it becomes. So it's better for me to come in, do the work and get out. Wow.
Yeah, there's no way for you to lie put on a disguise that they wouldn't.
I don't think so. I think it's like a.
Fake mustache and like a wig and walked in there.
I mean, I've never tried it, so I can't honestly tell you, you.
Know, the most ridiculous ideas.
That I'm trying to be honest, you know what you is great.
Don't listen to anything I have to say.
Can I play you some ghost voices?
I mean you can, but I'm terrible at this game. We've done this.
I know I'll try.
All right, let's do I haven't been here in person.
Actually it's very different in person.
In the zooms, it's like goes through like five different I know, you know, well it's trying for ev.
Or ev plicse.
I'm ready.
All right.
This first one, I'm not really sure of the location, but it is from Para Sarah. Okay too, all right?
Fun name, Yeah, I like it.
What is this ghost saying.
Sort of sounds like I'm so sexy?
I'm so sexy?
It really is.
Yeah, that might be an option.
Well, it's not one of the options I have here. It's not what they believe.
Okay, okay, of these options? Is it A?
This ghost wants attention?
Oh?
Is it B? This is close to danger?
Is it C?
I will if you get close.
I'll punish you. Or D whoops, there goes my dentures. Okay, here we go.
Oh my god, I'm very close to saying dy, there goes my dentures. I don't think that's right.
I think it is. What's there goes my dentures.
You hear it, I hear it.
I hear all of them.
I also hear this ghost wants attention.
I can hear the attention. Yeah, I mean maybe it's not.
Well.
What Parisara believes it is is this is close to danger. I can hear that.
I guess, so this is close to danger.
That was having a good time.
M don't threaten me with a good time and the good dangers.
I have voltage.
What about this next one? This is from cp E a R group which stands for Connecticut Paranormal Encounters and re Search. Okay, And this is a new news bistro in Colchester, Colchester, Okay, Connecticut.
What is it saying this is a different kind than that last one? What is that.
Someone's having fun? That's what that is?
Order in major agony.
I mean it sounds more like fun than agony.
Is me? Okay?
Watch all the answers are like I'm in terrible pain, I'm suffering.
Any guesses.
I mean it's to me it sounds like just someone's like I don't know, having like a yeah, just like having a good time, like oh boy.
Now there's the lead act or performer or ghost here that's saying no no. But then there's something in the background. For a second, listen to this.
Yeah, it's just like making a noise.
What is that?
It's a man and his cat.
It's yeah, it might be.
Okay, here's some options. Is it a gorgeous queen?
Is it B go get money?
Is it C go home Sunny or d oh no Sacy? Okay, here we go.
I mean I think they probably think it's s.
Go home Sonny. Yeah, that is what they think. Okay, I hear it go Yeah, I hear.
It is anybody named Sonny maybe at New News bistro they have. I think that needs a backstory.
I know I couldn't find much, but anyway, well, I guess that's it.
Oh my gosh, Okay, I guess we're down there.
What we'll do here for today? Thank you for doing this?
Yeah, thanks for having me, of course.
So let's tell people you're now on TikTok.
Yeah, for the first time ever, because I'm really behind the times, I'm on TikTok our Stavis. I'm giving it a try. Sure on Instagram rig Davis Twitter urg Stavis take off. I mean, I hope. So what we're doing on what I'm hoping to do with that TikTok, that's a little different from everything else, is teaching people how to do things in small videos, you know, like how to protect yourself, what you should be burning in your house,
you know, what our entity? What's attachment like talking communicating with your deceased loved ones, which everyone can do, they just don't know they can do it, you know, little snippets of things like, you know, helping people just kind of get back to spirit.
Yeah.
And then of course The Store of Darkness is in bookstores and soon to be on the TVs.
Yes, we talked about that last time here.
Your book is being adapted, Your life is being adapted into a TV show.
Yep. Yeah, so there we're working on that now and hopefully we'll be able to tell you all about it like big time soon. And then Celebrity Exorcism is on TV and it's perfect for the spooky season.
Yes it is. Okay, Well, I guess that's it.
All right. Well, I had a great time.
Thank you.
There's no demons in here.
Good. I will again. I'll call you if there ever is one.
I expect it that.
From me talking shit about demons.
That would be I guess on me if you do so, you know, yeah, let me know.
It's just me trying to hang out with you. I'm just going to do that. There's a demon in here just to see how quickly you'll come over. It's really just me I need help doing something around my house.
You're just gonna be like, hey, do you want to like go get like Panda Express.
Yeah, there's there's a demon at the Panda Express.
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