Peaches Christ Believes Ghosts Are Real

What's that at the Bed's spooky?

Hey, Judy, I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.

Wait a minute, I know, said.

Nanda's police. Hey boo, it's me Ross and welcome to Ghosted by Raz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal. I got to talk to a dear, dear old friend, Peaches Christ, who is just the most incredible. She's a drag queen, but she's also filmmaker, a cult leader. She's like the queen of cult films. I actually just saw her with former podcast guest Cassandra Peterson aka Alvira. They were doing a really cool event at the Academy of Motion Picture Museum

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I can't believe I'm back. Thanks for having me, ros Peaches.

I can't believe you flew all the way to LA just to do this.

Well, I mean you're a star.

I mean you just rocked San Francisco, two sold out shows, killing it and everyone's talking, and I thought I didn't get enough of her while she was in town.

So here I am stalking you?

Thank you? Is stalk away? Wyatt? Why are you here? I know that's not true.

Well, I mean, as wild as it is to hear me say it.

I hosted my second event at the Academy Museum of Motion Pictures last Friday.

I attended both of them, that's right, because you gave me a ticket.

Thank you. Yeah, the first time.

You and your friend Sam were the two people that contacted me within twenty four hours saying, hey, there are any tickets?

And that was the show.

That was the show I did with John Waters for the opening of his Pope of Trash exhibit.

And one of the best nights I've ever had.

Was so much fun.

I mean to say that I'm beyond flattered that John chose me to be his hostess for Cereal Mom at the Academy Museum is insane, Like I just couldn't believe it. I still can't believe it. It was a magical night. I thought it was going to be like a singular deathbed memory. And then the Academy Museum reached out like this past winter and said, we want to have you back.

So that was the that and then this weekend I'm doing Midsummer Screams. So that's the real reason.

Id you're so spooky, that's true, you and all of my idols. You're like best friends with my idols. And got to see Cassandra, which you know, I feel bad. I've always called her Cassandra till I read her book and then I saw I listened to.

The noticed that I always said Cassandra. I thought you were just fancy totally.

But yeah, Cassandra said, former guest of this podcast. Right, yeah, that was incredible. And now you're here and and now we're going to talk about ghosts.

Okay, I love it. One of my favorite subjects.

You work at a haunted place I do.

Yeah, my my whole production office and kind of digs where I do Terror Vault is at the old San Francisco Mint Building, And you know, I run a lot of old movie theaters, so I feel like I've been in haunted places a lot in my life, but this is like undoubtedly haunted, so haunted that I actually get freaked out.

You know.

But do you ever because I feel like the last time you were on the show, it was years ago at this point, I feel like it was right after we did Mean Gaze the tour. Yes, the Mean Girl's parody that you brilliantly wrote and directed and produced and starred, and I was also there.

You're a co star and.

Which, by the way, I still have people all the time telling me, oh, I saw you.

In Mean Gays.

You kind of were a scene stealer. You're a little bit selfish as a performer, just being so hilarious.

Oh, I'm so selfish, Kim.

She and Willem couldn't hold a candle and logan Joe Levonja, I mean you outdanced her.

It was out of I really did.

But you which, by the way, we went to a place that I'm so pissed. Once we left, everyone was like, that place is so haunted and like, I didn't know.

Was it in Chicago? That theater?

Oh?

That place was that was terrified. It's crazy that was haunted for sure. If it wasn't haunted, that would be very disappointing. No, it was the one we went to a Boise, the Egyptian Theater or something.

But we like we went to Boise, we did.

Okay. So when you were first on the show, I feel like you had just started working at the Mint Okay in San Francisco, but we knew you know the history of it, which is terrified, and you know of course it's haunted. But like, now that you've had some more time, I want to hear about that.

Well. I, as you may remember, I'm a skeptic, and part of that is I think I love scary stuff because I'm freaked out by stuff and I was raised very Catholic. I've always been drawn to macob and spooky stuff, and I think part of it's because it works, right, Like, I'm intrigued by it, I'm scared by it. I still go to horror movies as someone who loves horror movies and makes horror movies, and I still can totally become terrified.

So I think, but you're not scared of it because you are it.

I mean, I guess it's that thing where I like buying into the fantasy. And with ghosts, I think enough of me believes they're real that it's easier for me to walk around and go, they're not real.

Does that make sense? Yeah?

And so I was thinking about this actually after I was on your show the last time, and I was like, I think that I misrepresented myself because I'm realizing that I like Nihat my husband, who grew up culturally, you know, very different. He grew up in Turkey, like they very much believe in spirits and you know, I don't know, like energies and all sorts of kind of mystical things that like, you know, to me sound like kind of woo woo fantasy. And you realize like, oh no, this is a culture that.

Fully, like there's no question fully believes in stuff like the Evil Eye, right totally.

So with him, he was the first at the meant to be like, oh yeah, this place is super haunted and like just pay attention, like look around, like you'll see things that don't make sense. And I was like, I don't want to hear that, and sure enough, like I feel like it's things like where you know, we have all these curtains and things like tons and tons of black curtains because there's lots of entrances and exits or big heavy.

Black plastic flaps for the actors.

To move in and out of so they can get on set and out of set easily. And I often see people standing in those curtains and like we'll go and look and like it's as if they're holding up the curtain, and then the curtain.

Drops and it's moving, and then I go to look to see who was you know, who it.

Is like and no one's there, and that's where I'm like, yeah, I don't like this, like I don't want to go there. Like so now I just kind of walk around going I don't believe in go so I don't believe, like I'm the cowardly lion instead of I do believe.

I don't believe.

Well, so if anybody is unaware what you do there is you have a haunt. Would you call it a haunted attraction?

We call it an immersive haunted attraction. It's really immersive. I heard someone describe it as immersive horror, and I love that because it's it's like your old school haunted house mashed up with immersive theater. So there's scenes, there's a script there, it's a sixty minute walkthrough experience. I write a different essentially, I write a movie script every year and then we bring it to life, you know, and you walk through it.

But to have actual ghosts there, like you can't you can't pay for that? Yeah, like that's amazing. But and then the history of that place, let's recap.

What that is.

Well, I mean it was the actual Mint building, meaning that that's where they stored the money and made the money, you know, and it's long been out of commission as a mint building. There's actually another Mint building in Francisco that is the real Mint building. So it's this giant, old Gothic granite building that really is one of the most historic buildings in San Francisco because it survived the

Have you been there?

Did you know?

Oh?

I was a member I was opposed to last week.

Oh that's right, you blew me off. I totally remember now. And I had all those cast members waiting to meet you. I felt so bad for them.

They said, she's you know, because the third of our cast trans identified. So you're kind of an icon and a hero to them, and they were very let down, you know by that.

But anyway, I digress.

I told you, if that's true, I'll be there, and then you confirmed you were lye. I was lying, yes, and there was nobody there and those were actually ghosts and you were seeing things.

That's right.

Yeah.

So there's a courtyard in the middle of the building, which is so cool because like the building has this outdoor area. But back then, in nineteen oh six, there was a well there and the staff were trained on how to keep the rock and the granite wet, and so they were dumping water down the sides of the building from the exterior, and they shut all the shutters, the metal shutters, to protect the money, to protect the gold.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So when I was doing the history of the Mint to create the first Terror Vault, I actually went to my Haunt partner, my business partner and creative collaborator, David Flower, and I said, this is some really rich stuff, but it's actually too dark, like this is in our style.

Like, so I made up a whole history. I made a history about how the Mint was secretly used as a prism.

That's how I feel a lot of times with like when I do research. Yeah, I was hoping to do like a Catholic episode with you today because I do think there's a lot of really spooky Catholics.

Of course it's the spookiest, it's the spookiest.

Yeah, And I really wanted to do something about like stigmata, like real cases of people reporting mama so bad, I know what's wrong with me?

We should wake up with it, you know.

But see that's the thing, like so many of these stories, it's like it's so hard because I'm like, is that just like a mental illness issue? And they're self harming and you know, like people.

Well, yes, there's I think all the Catholic stuff is bullshit. I mean, that's that's the thing about it, right. That's why I liked the new movie the first omen because unlike The Exorcist and all these movies that I love, you know, in order to like kind of buy into the Exorcist, you have to buy into Catholicism, you know what I mean. And so it's sort of this annoying thing where it worked so well on me as a kid who was being raised Catholic and went to Catholic school.

But what do you think. I'm sure you've seen the TV show and Shutter Cursed films, yes, and they talked about the curse of the Omen and.

The I mean, what is that to you?

Coincidence?

I think it's fantastic and fabulous and yes, coincidental.

I think you know.

I mean, I'm a huge Poultrygeist fan. Yeah, I grew up with the curse of Poultrygeist. I mean, I don't know that I solely think it's coincidence. I think I guess I'm kind of starting to kind of subscribe to some Turkish stuff because you know, my Turkish side of the family, you know, my husband's family.

You start to see these things and you go, oh, oh, they were right about.

That, or you know, just weird things like my husband's brother, like there's this woman in the village where they grew up and he avoids her, like he'll run away from her if he sees her in the street, or he'll hide from her, and I'm like, what's the problem, And apparently if she looks at him, he'll get sick. Well, one day he was like, oh my god, she looked at me, and sure enough, like twenty four hours later, he was so sick.

Oh my god. I wonder if that's what the guy's in my neighborhood think of me, because they're always running taking coverage.

Yeah.

But what I was thinking is, like so many of these cases that I look up, they're like, it ends up with someone dyeing or like, I don't know, it just doesn't. It stops feeling like this fun horror movie thing, and it just starts.

I always am obsessed with the women who can have like a hysterical pregnancy, and so I feel like, if you can mentally cause yourself to appear pregnant when you're not, why wouldn't you know you'd be able to stigmata or.

You know what I mean, Like, wait a second, a hysterical pregnancy.

Yeah, it's a thing.

My mama had that when I was born. It was hysterical.

Oh my god, the dumber the better.

Going back to the mint, Yeah, I think it is so incredible that you have it's like such a queer run production. It's so like such a cool cast.

And what do they say they I mean most of them come up with like weird stories and stuff. Now in addition come up with well they come upstairs, meaning like at the end of the night, you know, like the green room after one of them.

Because every night it's sixty to seventy.

Actors in that building, so you can imagine what the green room looks like at the end of the night. Like because we do the main show, which is sort of the movie show, like that's different every year, but then we have something called the fang Bang, which is an immersive vampire bars, So there's all these vampire actors who come up at the end of the night, plus the show actors.

Then we have a VIP experience. This year, they're all Hillbillies, you know.

So it's like there's like sixty to seventy actors on any given night plus the crew.

So when they come up at the end of the night, the green.

Room is explosive and they're all talking about you know, this person did this, or they got someone to pee.

Their pants or whatever.

But they often and you know, in their warst stories we'll talk about unexplained things that they saw or happened, and you know, I don't know. I mean, it's foggy, of course, we pump all those rooms full of fog, and there's strobe lights and it's discombobulating and you know, but sometimes they're convinced, Now, the truth of the matter is that building is I shouldn't say this, but there are rats there.

And you know, so sometimes I'm like, uh, just a rat on your foot, you.

Know, right, there's there's there can always be explanations. But then there's the times where it's like, Okay, I don't think that rat appeared as a human. That just disappeared. Yeah, let's get me in there. I won't cancel next time.

I wanted you to do a stay Hunts in there.

You know. You know what, I'm going to be going to San Francisco this October to do Ghosted live on stage. Wow at the Eclectic File.

Oh good, amazing. I'm so glad to hear that.

Yeah, which is a place you hooked me.

Up with, Yeah, which is essentially the terribult folks went and opened their own well, some of our folks went and opened their own.

Queer theater, which is so great.

It's such a great place. Yeah, and it's also haunted. So I'm going to go up there. I'm planning a trip and I'm going to go up there and just hunt every day.

Well that was perfect because then you can actually see the show. You can come to Terra Vaut. Then we'll have you back when we're not open, and you can you can do some ghost hunting.

Perfect. Hey, can I tell you a story?

Sure?

Okay, this is a pretty famous one and I've never covered it because it's an exorcism.

Okay, an exorcism.

I mean, first of all, most of these cases that we know about are from a long time ago, you know, where we had different language and beliefs and whatever when it comes to mental health. Oh, and that's what I was going to say earlier when you were talking about the exorcists working on you in Catholicism. And it's crazy

Evil endactment mythology.

Yes, so I feel like a combination of those two is why such a broad amount of people view that as truth. The demon, evil, hell, devil, God, prayers, all of that, Because I often feel like Catholicism comes up NonStop on this podcast. We bring it up all the time, and I still listen. If you're not a Catholic person or you didn't grow up that way or whatever, I apologize.

But the reality of it is, Catholicism is so major that even if you didn't grow up as it, movies, pop culture, that all of this has.

Kind of influenced the world.

Right, So it's like, you know, the Exorcist may affect people who are raised Catholic more deeply, but we all know that people all over the world were completely rocked by that movie, So you know, people can relate well.

And like the Ouiji board thing, yeah, like that a lot of that I think comes from the Exorcist and people believing that it's demons that they're talking to, and maybe it is. I don't know. I am not here to tell you. You decide for yourself. But here's the story.

Yes, please, this is called.

The Exorcism of Anna Eckland.

Okay, I don't know the story.

Well, this is one of the ones that is often like the Exorcise was inspired by, like just I think that idea of what an exorcism is, like the movie version, like, I think it comes from this a lot. The main one that it comes from is this one called Roland Doe.

That sounds like a drag name.

Literally do Roland and Dough. Well that's the thing, because both Roland Dole, Roland Dough and Anna Eckland are both fake names.

Oh protect them, I guess they are drag names, yeah.

To protect the person and yeah minors and I don't know just particularly Rolando was a little boy, but Anna Ackland nobody knows for sure who she really was. Many suspect it was a woman named Emma Schmidt. A lot of my research I got from historic Mysteries dot com and a video by the Paranormal Scholar great channel.

Okay, So so you do research. Oh, I get in there, you go deep. Yes, you don't have interns doing this. You're like that, you're in there, you are digging.

I'm the research department when it comes to this kind of stuff.

I'm impressed.

I'm going in there. But I will say, if ever there's a fact that's wrong, it's else.

It's someone else that did the research mistakes.

It wasn't me. But okay, so pretty much we know so that she was born in Marathon, Wisconsin, in eighteen eighty two. Her mother died when she was a child, and she was left to be raised by an abusive alcoholic down She was very devout Catholic when she was fourteen. Every time that she went to church, she would be overcome with violent thoughts, wanting to smash the consecrated items and harm the priest.

Relatable you know what I mean. I'm like, okay, yeah, that tracks.

Eventually, she says that she was held back by an invisible force and she couldn't even enter the church.

Wow, that is I wish I had that excuse when I was her age. Right, Yeah, well I just can't go to church.

But that's the thing. It seems like a lot of the stuff originally is just like her saying this is how I felt whatever, which.

Is like people hadn't seen her headspin or anything like that. Right, yeah, okay, got it.

So yeah, I guess she was able to not go to church but at a girl. In nineteen oh eight, her local church contacted Theopaloss Resinger, who is a former German Capuchin monk okay, kapucha monkey.

Which are very cute.

He was a Capuchin monk German. That is his real name, theofalss Re Singer. Okay, and he is a real person. He moved to the States to be a priest. He moved to the Midwest. Who knows, and he does a little exorcism on her. He's, you know, a little it's like a little fine tuning.

Okay, and you're good.

He's like, but at this point, she's what twenty six or something, nineteen oh eight, she's born in eighteen eighty two, yeah, twenty five.

I don't know.

I can't do math, but like, she's not a kid. She's not Linda Blair, no teenager, yeah, okay, no, but it.

Started, yeh, woman, it seems like it got progressive and you know, it started at age fourteen.

And just kept going. I guess it just got worse.

So he does a little you know, tunes her up, and she's good to go, and she's back to normal until a few days later she starts smashing crucifixes. She believes that her dad and his wife, Mina Mina was Mina because.

Apparently mina stepmother.

Yes, yeah, apparently Mina was a witch. Oh, a bad kind of witch.

Uh huh.

And allegedly, you know, it just believed that Mina was putting some eleven herbs and spices.

That were cursed in her food. Oh wow, she was putting cursed herbs. And this is according to her. Mina didn't admit to this.

Well Mina's dad at this point.

Oh okay, God, So apparently.

I don't know the exact details, but Mina and the dad have now passed, but she's believed that they put a curse on her during life, and they're haunting her.

And they're they like Satanists, Like why would they seems like so they're like that, okay, got it.

It seems like something like that.

It's a wizard in a witch kind of performing the dark arts.

Yes, okay, Mina and even Mina or yeah right, okay, So for years the demons are kind of like coming and going. You know, she's able to manage it at this point. Now she's in her forties. It's nineteen twenty eight, okay, and the priest is called back up, and this time he brought back up. He's got his friend, Reverend Joseph Steiger. So they bring Anna to Ruling, Iowa, where father Resinger was working, and on August eighteenth, nineteen twenty eight, they

This sounds like my kind of movie.

I know. You know I'm obsessed with nuns or me too.

I mean I love non exploitation. I mean, oh my god, like I I well, you know, I mom my teachers were nuns growing up, you know, I.

Just love everything about They weren't sexy, though.

But have you seen Benedetta, the Paul Varhoven movie. Oh my god, it's showgirls in a convent.

Are you serious? Is it lesbian? Me?

Yes, of course, It's like modern day non exploitation. It is so good. When you were going to love it, and you're gonna be eager to thank me after you watch it.

Well, I love I mean Showgirls obviously it's new.

I mean it's I'm new ish, you know, Okay a few years ago. Okay, sorry, thank you.

No, That's that's what you're good for, is these kinds of these we go That's what you an, That's what you're good for.

Yeah, I got it.

By the way, people listen to Peaches of this podcast because she and Michael Muratti really tell you some great stuff.

Watch.

Okay, So they're at the convent. She wants to whoop these nuns asses.

Okay.

So the nuns give her food and she is pissed because she can tell that the food has been blessed. She's like, I did not order no Jesus with this, Tata.

Yes, I love this. Yeah, uh huh.

So she wouldn't eat any food or drinks while she's there.

She would all she doesn't want to get better at this point, the demons.

The demon h I got it.

Yeah.

So she would also allegedly purr when waiting for the priest.

Love it.

I don't know. The priest said that on his way to the convent. His car wouldn't accelerate even though it was a new car. Let's keep in mind, this.

Is kind of cars are there then, I know it's the twenty He's like, I'm sure, like did the like crank the engine?

Yeah?

But whatever. Of course that means that the devil got in the car and is trying to keep him away. So Anna gets tied to the bed.

And it says, oh, that's familiar.

No, I mean no, I mean like no, I'm saying they used that exorcist, right, this was sort of inspired the exorcism.

Yeah, exorcists, I guess.

So, okay, she's tied to the bed.

She's tied to this.

I wasn't trying to make some sex joking.

Well it seemed like.

So she's tied to the bed, got it.

And it says that they had the strongest nuns hold her.

Dad, and you know there were some brute there was face it. If ever there were strong If you're going.

To find some strong ass women, you go to a convent.

The got those butch sisters.

I mean, let's face it, it's rectory.

And convents were a safe place for queer people to you know what I mean, Like it's it's Hello. Yeah, it doesn't take a rocket scientist.

To figure out why the name rectory, right, rector Mary, that's why they called it.

That seems like. So they get these butch sisters out. Yeah, they said, get sister Ronda and sister.

Barster Bulldagger come on over. So uh.

The priests are saying his prayers and instantly she just like actually she's sedated, like her eyes go out whatever. And then she breaks free and throws herself at the wall and in a catlike manner, she's clinging to the wall above the door with her hands.

That's from the Exorcist.

Also, that's so creepy.

Yeah, Like I like like the idea of her crawling up onto the ceiling, Like I love horror movies where people crawl on the ceiling.

Oh yeah too. So they're like, all right, you get down and get down from that ceiling. They physically pull her down, uh huh, And she's screaming. She's speaking Latin English German. She's got the duo Lingo plus subscription. Yeah, and she's claiming that she's embodied by all these different spirits, including her dad and Mina as well as Judas.

And beyazzlebub Wow. She's got them all.

She's got collect them all.

The melting pod of demons.

It's a demon polyamory going on in there. So she This is always my favorite. This is actually pretty common. We cover this often on the show, in these cases where her lips are not moving, but the voices are coming like from within her. Oh that Jeff Dunham ship.

Is there a name for that?

Jeff Dunham shit, Jeff Dunham ventriloquism, ventriloquism.

Okay, got it?

Yeah, yeah, So the voice of her dad admits that he was indeed dark sided. Wow, And since she wouldn't join him on the dark side during his life, he has urged the demons to inhabit her body.

I love that.

Yeah, I think that's like it's so cinematic, like for a third actress. I mean, it feels like lazy writing, but not if it's real.

You know.

Well, there were witnesses though, right, I mean, this is a room full of bulldaggers and a priest, so you know, this is why would they lie.

Very much a case that has a lot of witnesses.

Well, I mean, you know, but the thing is, are the witnesses all Catholic like, do you see what I'm saying, Like there's this sort of like built in hysteria.

I think that because Okay, as you're talking, I had this thought.

That and I hope people that are listening understand I'm going to say this with the utmost respect, but I live in San Francisco, and sadly, and this is an American problem because, as you know, we travel a lot for work. It's not unique to San Francisco. I mean,

You know, Okay, Yes, One thing I'll throw out there is those people are not flying on walls.

Oh that's true.

But again I'm going to add that sheep probably had a lot of energy. Adrenaline is a magical thing. I'm amazed at what people can do and when folks, especially like if you're a priest and a nun can benefit and their organization can benefit from spinning a yarn. Shall I say, then you know collectively? Yeah, sure, she was climbing the walls. Well, climbing the walls then becomes.

I saw her crawl across the ceiling, you know what I mean, Helene.

Yeah, but I'm I'm always someone that can entertain why not both or at times or whatever? Because if Lee just hypothetically said that you were I even think about this with people that live in a haunted house or something where you're seeing something or hearing voices that are not there. How is that not like so similar. It's such a fine line where you could be like, I feel like this is an issue. Most of the time people do say I feel like I'm going crazy.

I mean, that's we know that people who have certain kinds of mental illness literally hear voices, you know.

But I also think we also don't know a lot about what's out.

In the universe and what we're dealing with. We only know so much. So yeah, you're right, I don't know. There's probably some middle ground.

There's probably it's probably very rare, yeah, if possible. Now, one thing I should point out, because I entertained this book. At one point, there was a book that came out in twenty twenty by a man named Richard Gallagher, MD, and it's called Demonic Foes, Doctor Dick, Doctor Dick Gallagher. Yeah, it's Demonic Foes My twenty five years as a psychiatrist investigating possessions, diabolical attacks and the paranormal. And I started listening to this audio book at one point, and it's

Yeah, it's interesting.

Where was he located, Like I'm wondering, I mean, there're a place on Earth where.

This happens more frequently.

You know what I mean, like or is it kind of is it like queerness where you find it everywhere all over the world, Like I'd be interested to know, like the statistics around these sorts of occurrences, you know, are they kind of spread out equally around the world or I don't know, you know what I mean.

He was located in New York.

Oh okay, Well there's a lot of that there. I could see it.

Yeah, and I think he would travel. I think that with the demonic possession kind of thing.

Like his office was right in the middle of Chelsea. He only saw gay men.

Yeah, it's that tracks, you know, talk about coincidence and whatever. I don't know, but it does seem like these exorcism cases of this nature do only happen to Catholics.

There you go.

But you know, like I'll go back to my husband who's raised Muslim and who's you know, family are all you know, maybe.

Not practicing, but culturally they have a version of this. It's not the same.

They don't talk about it the same way, but it's definitely parallel to demons and possessions and you know what I mean. They just wouldn't call it satan or whatever, or they wouldn't use the word exorcism, but there is something similar.

So that's why I have a strong belief that what you believe is true. What you believe do you overcome bad is true. Yeah, you think that it's going to be a Catholic prayer, then it'll work for you because you believe it over you know, when you're fighting.

Bad and maybe it's all the matrix and so our mind is just sort of the one deciding what's true and what's not.

Yeah, I love that. That's what I very much roomy like. You know, you figure out we're in control of all of this. You know we're making Yeah.

Dude, Okay, so back to this story.

There's more.

It's not done yet, Jesus. Okay, I'll get over it. I'll get through it. Here we go. So she's malnourished but bloated like she's not been eaten. She's been here for months now at this convent. Her eyes are like bursting out of her head. The reverend friend that remember, the priest brought in his reverende which.

I thought it was weird that a priest brought it in a reverend. You know that doesn't sound Catholic.

Yeah, I think that. He was just like, what whatever will help?

We need an army of religious shit.

Well he made a mistake bringing that guy in. That guy got over it and he was like I quit. Really yeah. He's like, this is not how I want to spend my time, right, okay, because this priest was apparently spending hours, like all night whatever for months trying to get this demon out. The demon says to the reverend as he's quitting, the Demon's like, wait till Friday.

Okay, I love it.

So that Friday comes, he's driving and he's about to go read someone of their last rites, and a black mass appears in the middle of the street and what like, just a big black Oh I.

Thought you meant like, no, no, no, not a Satanic you know, ritual offering of people.

Never mind, I went to a different place, like a big large black blob, a big got okay.

Of black okay, And it's covering the street and it suspicion, and he veers off the road and crashes and he's dangling his car over a rabine and then at the last moment, a hot farmer comes and saves him.

Oh my god, that's fierce.

So I don't know, was that a coincidence that the deebon said, wait till Friday, he almost died but didn't. I don't know either way. Back to her, So she's vomiting bile, and they say it's amounts of just stuff coming out of her that could not even fit in her body. There's just so much of it. Her body would expand and contract. You know, she's doing all that typical stuff from the movies yea toarting. Honey, she's contorting.

What does that mean?

What do you mean? Sam?

Here?

Karaens that kind of thing.

Okay, got it, Facts that she couldn't possibly have known totally.

They would do these different sessions and then for this final exorcism. It ended on December twenty third, nineteen twenty eight. She stands up and she exclaims.

I've cured good. Okay.

Of course, she says it was Jesus, and you know, I'm back and whatever. They kept this whole thing real hush hush, you know again, the fake name you know, they didn't want the public to know about this until Reverend Carl Vogel gets in there and interviews a bunch

Wow, that's really sad.

It is sad well, Okay, So going back to the omen because what it insinuates is that the Catholic Church

That's fun. Yeah, well, because I feel like Catholicism is not She's not it right.

Now, no, I mean, and that's kind of what the and I think the movie, even though it takes place in the past, it's sort of showcasing something that I think the church is dealing with now. I mean, I'm shocked that anyone still, you know, after everything that's come out, everything, people are still like, okay, well give you our money and show up and believe what you say.

And it's tough because I have family that me too. They're still in there, and you know it's the beliefs.

Yea, that is what they'll they can't let go of it.

It's the it's not so much about that church stuff as much as it is about the.

Well I guess it.

Yeah, I understand, like if you really just follow like the New Testament, it's not all, it's actually quite good.

But it's like, but you see what the church does, like you see that they protect monsters. They you know, are misogynists, like they're antit, you know, like what you know, what.

About when Miss Francis said, would she used the F word of yours? We got a bunch of what'd she call it? Faggacini's.

Yeah. I liked it because I feel like I have a lot of family members who point to these like sort of bs, little you know, little inklings of progress.

You know.

She'll throw a you know, a bone out there and people go, oh, look, look we have a modern pope and this and that, and it's like, oh, no, you know what she's saying behind closed doors, you know, here it is, you know, and she was busted. She is busted, and she was busted, you know.

Busted, Miss Francis.

Yeah, and it's just so weird. It's like, okay, well, I guess you're just gonna excuse that as well.

You know, listen, he chose the name Frances.

No he didn't, Oh he did.

You could choose any name, he said, I want to be for Frances, my pope, Francis Francis McDorman.

One of my favorite Francis is the pee Wee Herman's nemesis.

Oh, yes, that Francis Francis Peaches.

Yes.

Can I show you a haunted doll?

Yes? Please?

It's time for the dolls are living?

Is this a regular segment? It is great? So what I do?

And we didn't do this the last se I don't remember this.

Yeah, this is like that title.

Thank you. So I go to eBay and I type in haunted dolls. Okay, And there are hundreds, if not thousands at a time, and they often come with biographies and we like to, like, you know, take a look out at one every week. So, geeha, can you show us that doll? Please? This one we have today does not have a name.

Oh wow, it's adorable. It's actually really cute, I mean precious. And it's a little boy right.

Or a non binary very somewhere in the middle.

Yeah, okay, but very cute, terrifying, let's be honest.

The eyes are I think a little bit too in the sockets for my taste.

Yeah.

There is some overalls with a little shirt with little drummerman kind of thing on it.

Peter Pan collar and blonde, very very sort of looks like one of the mon traps, you know.

Very von trappy some blush. All right, So this one does not have a name, but it does have a bio.

Okay.

The person that's selling it, they are selling it for one hundred and seventy five dollars. Okay, but keep in mind you're not just getting the doll, You're also getting what's inside this.

Is I'm starting to I'm having a light bulb moment of like, I could probably sell some haunted dolls.

I think about this constant, like, wait, you got a good Will and get a doll? Especially as a horror writer, I think I'd have fun with this.

Yes, okay, so this person writes, I swear when I first saw this doll, his eyes shifted and watched me. I had to do a double take. But I swear I've seen it again. Oh. Anyone that has been around him has also said his eyes made them feel weird. The first night I brought him home was brutal. I woke up with three scratches on my leg, but there was nothing in my bed that could have done that.

Is that the whole description?

No?

Okay, but I already am loving like this might be a bigger time suck than Facebook for me now or Instagram, because like I could spend hours.

This is my social Yeah. Yeah.

And there's gay ones. There's there's all kinds. There's there's an account that only sells beanie babies that they say have gay people in them.

Hey beanie babies. Yes, wow, no, I need you need to send me links.

I absolutely no problem. And then there's sex ones. There's so much.

There's so much.

Okay, so this one's scratching this person in the middle of the night, which I was stopping because I do this to myself all the time.

Scratch yourself.

I forget to loop up these legs and then I wake up and I've got little scratch marks on them.

But whatever this was, Well, you don't really cut your toenails.

Well there's that. There's uh so that's how I cling to the wall like a cat.

I've just always noticed when you know you're shrimping, it's like those those toenails.

Just shrimping.

Wait, shrimping is when you suck toes. What's it called when you're that is that's a sex act?

Shrimping? You didn't know that, I swear to god. Shrimping is a thing. People are gonna back me up A.

Long time ago. I told the story in this podcast, and I've never forgotten about this. You shrimp, No, but I knew this guy met this guy on Craigslist to be his roommate. It's like a creepy guy. And one night this guy I knew woke up in the middle of the night and the guy was sucking on his toes.

That's shrimping. That's a whole shrimping ye yeah, yeah, And pink flamingos.

When Connie and Raymond Marble they're sucking each other's feet, that's shrimping. They're like licking each other's toes. But there's like a term for when your toes hang out over your heels.

Over the front of your shoes.

Just hangers, I guess.

But anyways, you don't really have long to nails. I just was trying to create a vision. Well when you maybe you do. I don't know. I don't look at your feet.

When you lick people's toes, do you put like cocktail sauce on it or what do you do?

Personally? I like to like to have the feet on ice. I squeeze a little lemon over the toes.

Yeah, I bet that's nice.

Dip the horsepadush and catch it. Yeah.

Okay, so back to this unnamed one hundred and seventy five dollars dollar.

Yeah, so.

Do to do?

Uh?

The first night, where was I? Okay? I noticed before sleeping that there was a dark shadow standing in front of my window. I was terrified, but also exhausted, so I didn't want to think about it. I didn't put two and two together until later. He appears as an older man with no teeth. That's perfect for shrimp.

That is, that's that's exactly what you want. Yeah.

So he appears as an older man with no teeth. This is what he shapes into. I noticed him sitting in the rocking chair a lot, and I also can feel him standing behind me. I will hear his scream, slash yell coming from the area he's in and loud tapping. He will let you know he is around for sure. Mainly at he makes an appearance, and it's always really scary. He can cause nightmare, sleep paralysis, anxiety, high heart rate, and a feeling of dread.

Beware it's like a drug commercial me.

They always have to put a disclaimer. Oh really Yeah, because you're not legally allowed to sell ghosts, so you.

Have that's a law on eBay. Okay, all right, So they have to say, so you're buying the doll.

But eBay prohibits the cell of intangible objects.

Okay, all right, fair enough, that makes sense.

You're buying the doll and then you might get shrimped in the middle of the night by a man.

I have to say, like, that description is a lot more than I was thinking it would be.

That was the most tame, normal one we read.

And so I mean, how often do you think people buy these dolls? Because, like you think, if you buy one, apply.

And demand honey, it's up there constantly. There's every day there's new ones. And I've talked to some people that have bought them, and you're the one doing this. I wish I swear to God money.

I want some PI out there who's listening to bust Raws. I bet she's using the Ghosted podcast.

Karen and Georgia know that you're doing this. Do they know that you're using this podcast to hawk your your snake oil salesman ghost dolls?

I mean, listen, it's a hustle. No one asked to buy it. I'm not making you buy them.

That's true. But this is like one big commercial for your ghost doll.

You know, I think about I'm afraid that as this podcast gets bigger, that people will start making fake.

Like, Okay, we need to find like these people want to interview one of these Yes, absolutely, Like I want to know these salespeople. Have they sold more than one haunted dolls?

Yes? Well then that.

Come on, caught these people before.

Come on, I've caught these people using.

The same bio on a different dolls.

Oh well, there you go. No, you gotta get so now I'm starting to think it's not I actually give them credit though. It's kind of fabulous.

So it's fabulous, and some of the stories that they come up with are incredible. You know, my favorite one of all time when we had mariy Lynn Rice Cup on this podcast, there was a clown doll that these people that were selling it believed ate one of their pet iguanas.

A clown doll, like from Poltergeist.

It's kind of yeah, oh wow, Honestly it looked like my dad. Honestly, this clown doll.

You show me a picture of your dad.

Yeah, he has a clown.

Yeah, I know, it's amazing like you, that's actually the coolest thing about you. I mean, no, I think you're the coolest person ever. But you're the only person I've ever met whose father is a clown.

Thank you.

That's very, very unique and cool. Ross, I did think of something to tell you.

Finally, Okay, I for the first time of my adult life, on Thursday. This is so LA have an appointment to see a renowned psychic.

Geez, Louise. Why didn't we do this on Friday?

I know, right, I have to say, I'm a little freaked out by it.

You know, probably why I'm doing this. Maybe you should just come and sit and watch. I wonder if you can.

Would that be weird? She's this woman?

Okay, So this guy, he's this straight guy who actually has a cult movie podcast, and he's really really sweet and you know, has had me on his podcast and like years ago he said, my mom's a really successful psychic, and.

I kind of stored it away and then looked her up and sure enough.

She's like a high end successful psychic and she is going to be in California. She doesn't live here, and so he asked me if there was any chance I was going to be in Palm Springs and I said no, but I'm going to be in LA. And then we realized we were going to be in LA on the same day, just for a window of time.

So I'm going to see her on Thursday.

Oh this is good.

Yeah, but I mean it. We'll see, We'll see what happens.

I do have these friends who are very close friends, who are twins, who they someone that was close to them and they met with a psychic, and they actually met with a few and there was a woman where they were convinced, you know, that it was the real deal, and they actually said that she and they agreed that they would no longer see each other because it can become like an addiction.

Yes, I agree.

Yeah, well, I don't know much about this. This is new terrain.

You've never been to a psychic. No, well, I love to pay someone to talk about me. It's great, Yeah it me, I'll.

Talk about you. I'd be happy to the things I would say.

Now, this is exciting because I want to hear what happens the next time you come on this podcast. You're going to have to now, once you become an addict of psychics, you're gonna have to tell us everything.

Well, So I lost a friend last year, my dear friend, Hecklina. You know, it was very, very shocking, and people know that. You know, it's very public. I found her dead in London when we were doing a show together. And I'm obvious not over it. I probably won't be over it anytime soon. But the reason this is particularly important, I don't know if you knew this about Hecklena. She was obsessed with all this. She used to have seances, she had Ouiji boards, she had multiple seances. I went to

I feel like she would love it.

Well. See, I may or may not connect, but you know, at least I'm given it a shot.

But it's one of those things where like I don't know how any of this shit works. In theory, if this was a movie or whatever, you would think that her loving that stuff while on earth, she would be like, that's why I finally they're calling. But like she might be maybe she can't find her phone in the afterlife, Like, who knows how it really works?

Well, Okay, so do you think that when people like when my husband's mother passed actually just before Heckleina, year before Hecklena, and that was shocking.

We didn't expect it. It was pretty sudden. And you know, he started noticing a leve and eleven right, And so.

Now I swear every like all the time, he'd be like, look eleven eleven, eleven eleven, like he does always sort of see it or think about it, and he's convinced, you know, somehow it's connected to his mom. With Heckleina, I never noticed lights flickering a lot, and then our apartment all the time, hotel rooms the other night, all the time, and I'm like, was this always the way it was? Were lights always flickering? But I didn't apply any.

Sort of meaning to it. But now I really notice. I think she comes through the light bulbs. Is that crazy?

I love it. I think it's very possible.

Yeah, why not?

Can I play you some ghost voices?

Please? It's time for EVP or ev please this I remember from last time.

Oh guy, so what I do? I find Electronic Voice Phenomena EVPs on YouTube and I'm going to play two of them for you and I'm gonna have you tell me what you hear the ghost saying, and then i'll give you an ABCD option, one of them being the correct answer of what the person that posted it believes the ghost is saying. All right, first one, This was posted by s Biyonchino and it was in their house. That's all I know. What is this ghost saying? Okay? It's kind of a long one.

Yeah, yeah.

I have a hard time with this one because it sounds like two people or whatever entities speaking and then there's one that's like it reminds me of one of those like scream o bands where one person's like singing singing.

And the the other one got the first part but not the same.

What do you have for the first part?

I don't care? Ooh okay, I don't know. Yeah, it's really like after that, I can't figure it. I know.

Well, they believe that they figured it out. Okay, So did they think it was a fuck you I want you to marry me?

Okay?

I could see fuck you for sure as well because the tone is very fuck you, yeah, which I love fuck you I want you to marry me.

That's good, Okay? Is it? B?

I'm here and I'm gonna cause a scene.

That's something a drag queen would say when she walked into the workroom on Drag Race.

Well it could be.

Yeah, c oh you, I'm feeling very mean. I think it's a day Sorry.

Sorry, hey boo, I'm a real scary queen.

No, it's not that. I think it's a fuck you.

I want you to marry me. Yeah, that's such a weird thing to say, but that is what they think.

Amazing.

Okay, now now that we don't know that, let's listen, because I don't know if this.

Okay, Yeah, I don't think they got it right. Maybe fuck you, maybe fuck the rest of the words.

That doesn't work. I'm willing to marry me. No, I don't think so.

Okay, Well, here is one more.

Okay.

This was posted by a person who's EVPs I have used several times over the years. Anthony Anderson. Oh, I don't know if it's the actor from Blackish and a million other things. I believe it is not somebody else named Anthony Anderson. This one was recorded at the Mint, San Francisco. Oh my god, no way, I swear to Gord.

Really yeah.

This is from years ago. I want to say, this is like thirteen years ago or wow?

Okay, and they said this was in the vault. Okay, well I know that. Well that's where fang bang is.

What does it say?

That does sound like the mint? That the the reverb? Can you play it again?

It's a quick one. Hmmm, it's hard.

I'm flawless. I don't know.

Yeah, I'm flawless.

Wait, no, that's not it.

I can definitely hear something. Okay, Well do they think it was a a lot of big tits?

Yeah? With this is before I moved in. Huh so, no, it's not a Is it.

B onto business?

Okay? Uh huh?

C I want to get this mm hmmm or d my name is peaches? Okay, what is it saying?

What we're being see again?

B is onto business? And C is I want to get this?

I say onto business?

That's what they believe it said. Oh, okay, into business. We're onto business. I think it's we're onto business.

I think it's mind your business.

Oh that's a good one. Yeah, I mind your business? Well, sassy ghosts mind your business?

Yeah, a lot of big tips.

Do you record ghost voices? Yes? Okay, I have I mean, the one that called you the F word. I guess that's uh.

Yeah, well that's when I called Pope Francis.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm wondering if you come back to the Mint and you record voices, do you think you'd record the same person saying different things. Yeah, Like, it'd be interesting to see if it's like the same they're just still there.

Yeah, I don't know.

It's very very interesting to think about because I'm always like these like, let's say that is a ghost from nineteen oh six or whatever. If they're still there, if they're able to say, mind your business, you know, they have that much intelligence, would they have thoughts on what the building has become and that now?

You know, probably I would imagine, I don't know. I mean, I guess if they have a sense of humor, they might like us. But you know, probably is weird to have a bunch of freaks, you know, running around pretending to be ghosts.

But it's like at that point, I feel like, you know, I have this theory recently that I've decided and I always, my whole life have been drawn to heavy metal people and you know, all the different weirdos. Yeah, me too,

Yeah.

Absolutely, According to you know, a lot of the Christian extremists or whatever, they think all of us are like, you know, evil. So I'm like, well, if when I get to Hell, I want to have connections. I want to know everyone. I want to be cool with everyone.

Yeah, And I mean, well that's why I think the heck Leana thing.

Coming back to that, I think if anyone is going to like come back or crossover or make contact or try to, it's gonna be her.

Yes, and you will probably be someone who can come back as well and us.

All, well, I'm waiting for one of my friends like whenever that comes, Like I tell all my friends like come back, you too, come back.

So you're like assuming that I'm gonna die before you or yeah, I.

Am, Well fair enough, I am, so please come back because I need and vice versa, just in case you know, you never know, Yeah, exactly, exactly come back, and will you know I would love I mean, I literally play make belief for a living as an adult, Like as a fifty year old drag queen. I pretend to be a ghost so I can jump out and scare people. Can you imagine? I mean, the whole thing of Terra Vault is it's this elaborate thing that I create with you know, sustainable story and all this stuff.

But really, you know what I do is I every night put on a mask and go in there and jump out and scare people. And that's the whole reason I want to do it. So I will definitely come back as a ghost, and I will be like under your bed in your closet. Yeah yeah, I'll be like watching you. I'll be watching shrimp.

I want to be in an ebays all and I want to combass an expensive one, very expensive ebays all.

Peaches.

Yes, that's enough out of you.

We did talk for quite a while, but I've enjoyed every minute of it me too.

Hey tell people where to find you.

Well, you know I'm not on X anymore, because you know, I live in San Francisco and I just couldn't stand him anymore. So I'm on Instagram and Facebook and TikTok and you know, and I have a website Peaches christ dot.

Com and you know, check me out.

Yes, weekly podcast about cult that's.

Right, midnight mass. You can listen to the podcast anywhere. We have podcasts. I mean we're not as we're not as hooked up with a big powerhouse of a company like you.

Are, but we're a little, humble, small little podcast. You know that that needs your support.

It's so great, Thank you. I want people to all listen to it. If you like cool movies, weird movies, cult movies.

What the show is essentially about isn't talking necessarily about the movies, but really about why we're obsessed with them, like why we love them.

And I love talking to people who are obsessed with things.

So if you you are so listening and you're obsessed with a weird cult movie, like, reach out because I love hearing from those folks.

Well, I'm obsessed with a lot of cult movies.

Yeah you've been on the show though, No I have not, never have.

But I'm glad you've been on this twice. Thanks for joining me. I love you, I love you, thank you so much to be just christ check out everything she does, I just I love. Everything she touches to me is gold. She's so cool and I do plan on going ghost hunting with her or around her very shortly, and look out for that. I love you all but living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me came back. This has been an exactly production.