What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spookyoky, I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming, it's way Wait.
A minute, Hey, I'm goosted.
By Ross.
Hey boo, it's me ros.
Oh.
I feel so much better than I did last week. I sounded awful, like I was saying, I've kind of recorded a few upcoming episodes talking like that because I was a little bit sick. But I feel so much better now. So just bear with me as I sound a little sick in some upcoming episodes. You know, I should just tell you who I've recorded, because I have. I have recorded a few that will be coming at you, so you know. I don't like to ever say who's going to be on until I've officially recorded it, but
I'll tell you now. I have an episode coming up with return guest our h Stavis, the Exorcist, So if you haven't heard my conversation with her before, go back and listen to it. It's a two part conversation. She's a real exorcist and non denominational exorcist, an incredible life. Also, go check out her book, which I love and I know so many listeners of this show have read and fell in love with it's called Sister of Darkness and
it's wonderful, So that will be coming up soon. I also have a really exciting episode coming up with Chris Colfer and he's turns out somebody that ghosts are obsessed with. Also, extraterrestrials are pretty into him too, So Chris has so many stories and I cannot wait to share it with you. Also coming up, I have my friend Leonora Claire, she'll be on. She is, among many things, a casting producer for the TV show Haunted on Netflix, so we talk about that, and I know a lot of people that
listen to this show love Haunted. So make sure you guys are subscribed so you don't miss out on those episodes coming up real soon. Also, I haven't recorded it yet, but I do have a RuPaul's Drag Race Superstar coming up soon. It's scheduled, it'll work out, it'll be great. And I should also add that those episodes that I just mentioned, they might not necessarily be in that order, but those are those are ones that I have recorded that will be coming out very very soon, so look
out for that. Just a heads up. So today we have got listeners on the show, and I'm so excited to get to those bye. I thought I would read a story that was posted in the Facebook group called Ghosted by Rosdresfales and this one comes all the way from Australia. Oh I'll be there one day, I promise. This is from Russell. Russell says I live on a farm in Australia. When my husband and I bought it, we were told the previous owner had died on the property.
It didn't bother us. Later we found out he actually didn't just die, but had had a horrific accident. He was a hoarder, so both farmhouses were full of rubbish that I was clearing. After a week of cleaning, I got really fed up with the dirt and dead rats that were all trapped inside the hoarded rubbish, and in frustration, I threw a teapot at the wall. It was a hot day, no breeze, and I had all doors open because of the smell. I threw this teapot. All the
doors slammed in the house. I told the late owner of the house nicely that he had to leave as it was our farm now. And the atmosphere changed and became lighter over the next weeks, I've felt him around, but he was friendly and it didn't bother me. My husband doesn't believe, so it wasn't a problem. All the ghosts, ever, really did was hide things, and they would turn up in odd places. We've lived on the farm for five years now. I've worked out that it's haunted by lots
of ghosts. I've woken up to find shadow figures in the bedroom doorway and in the bathroom. I had a woman made up of white light standing over the bed, also a deformed figure. It's not sleep paralysis because I can move and I scream. My husband says I'm dreaming, but I'm not so sure. I went to a medium with a friend, not because of the farm, but just for fun. She told me that the spirits of the farm know that I can see them and want me to pass on messages to their loved ones, as they
sense that I can communicate with them over lockdown. It got worse. I'm on the farm in the day on my own. One day I was washing up. I heard a man screaming, blood curdling scream. We are in the middle of nowhere. Our house is isolated. I went around the whole farm looking to see if there was an intruder, but there was no one there. Our dog is really placid and friendly, but he often barks a growl at
the corner of the room. I also hear footsteps on the wooden veranda and the front door opens, but no one is there. We don't need to lock our doors. We often wake up in the morning to find the front door open. My husband says, because I enjoy horror and ghost shows, I'm just imagining it. I personally believe that old owners of the farm are still hanging around. It no longer scares me. I lumped up all these things together, but it was over five year periods, so
it's not all the time. I'd prefer not to hear blood curdling screams though.
Wow.
Thanks Russell, and also Russell put a picture of the farm in the Facebook group ghosted by Roz dress Fales. Thank you for sending that. I hate to say it, but I kind of want the ghost to like appear to your husband. So we've got some great listeners on the show today. I am really obsessed with this first story that you're going to hear here. And also, as always, if you want to hear a little more on patreon
dot com. Slash Roz dress fales. On my second Tier this week, you can hear Rebet talking about staying in a haunted hotel in Savannah, Georgia, and also Lewis tells me about one of my biggest fears, which is staying in a haunted house and having to pee in the middle of the night. Also on my Patreon Secondier, I have my podcast that I've been doing with my best friend Sam Pancake. This time we are talking about you know, show biz and some of the gigs we've had to
do along the way. And you can hear that that will be our final episode for now and maybe we'll do more in the future, So go check it out. We now have four of those posted, so you can hear them all on Patreon. Okay, here we go with this month's listener phone call Extravaganza. On with the show.
Helloa, Rebecca and Virginia.
How are you great?
How are you Riz?
I am so good. The story that you said to me, it's an insane one in a good way. Can we hear it?
Yeah?
And I'm so flattered to be on your show because it's a ghost story that doesn't technically involve a ghost, so but and it's it's both extraordinary and kind of ordinary at the same time. So I'm just just gonna hit it.
Yeah, Well, have you ever encountered a ghost?
Yeah, I've got well, you know, I've had those little ghosty feelings. I've got a few little little, you know, stories of some spooky run ins. But I thought you would really enjoy the story I'm about to tell you.
Okay, let's hear that one first, and then maybe maybe we'll get into some little ghosties.
All right, Well, as long as I can remember, I've had the same reoccurring nightmare, and it's a common nightmare. It's that nightmare where you're being chased, and it's not just being chased, but I'm running as hard as I can and I'm looking back and I see like this
shadowy figure behind me. So the first time I had this nightmare, I remember it was at the house where we moved away from when I was in kindergarten, so it's probably four or five, and I know, so yeah, and not all the time, just occasionally, you know, growing up, and when I became an adult it happened more often. But it's just you know, I'm like running and running and the shadow Man's chasing me, and I always wake
up the same way. I wake up just like my heart's racing and my I can't catch my breath, and you know, it's just really stressful. So last year, I think everyone was the same way. It's like COVID was like the World series of whatever. Your stress was, like, I remember your Yeah, your interview with Katrina Weidman. She said that looking back, she felt like she wasn't okay.
And I think like a lot of people feel that way, and I think, you know, I feel that way too, you know, looking back, I was trying to say stay safe. I was trying to keep my parents, who are older safe, and you know, we had family members that you know, we were worried about. So I started having this nightmare pretty regularly, like almost you know, every night. So I would just be you know, running and running and the
shadow Man would be chasing me. A while back, I tried a couple of strategies to kind of kind of help with this nightmare. I saw this TV show on Lucid Dreams. So I don't know if you've heard about, you know, Lucid Dreaming it's where you know, you're in a dream and you can kind of control things a little bit. So, you know, a while back, I tried just drawing an X over the shadow Man and that
worked for a little while. You know, I was running and I stopped and drew an X, and he just kind of dissolved, and I thought, you know, that's that's great, He's gone. And then after that, like, you know, a few weeks later, he popped back up and I thought, I'm going to try something else. I'm going to try, you know, flying away, and that worked for a few you know times too. He was chasing me and I would start flying and he would just be on the ground.
And then eventually the shadow Man learned how to fly too, so I had these, i know, these acrobatic dreams where you know, it was like I was like you know, Superman or Peter Pan, you know, flying and he was chasing me. So all of that became even more aggravated last year during COVID, and eventually all of this changed. I had one dream where I'm in the back of
this little grocery store. It's like the size of a CBS and I'm shopping and I look in the back hallway and the shadow Man comes out of the back hallway of the grocery store. I'm like, oh crap. So I start running out the front, and he is just running behind me, like you know, like the twenty eight Days Later zombies, like the zombies that are just like like booking it.
So I run out the oh way, I know. So I run out a shadow Man getting at CBS. Shadow Man got prescriptions.
I don't know, And I'm like, you know, why can't you leave you alone? I've got other stuff going on. So I run out the front. He's running behind me, and I run around the side and then I see this golf cart coming from the distance and it gets closer and I see that it's like tricked out, you know. It's got like the little palm palm fringe around the top, and it's you know, got some cool collars on it.
And it's getting closer, and I see there's like these two ladies in it, and they're in like like pageant clothes, like they've got like full hair, you know, it's like nineteen eighty sort of beauty pageant clothes. And this golf cart does like a tokyo drift and it stops like right at my feet, and I see you while it's turning around. I'm like, it's through Paul and there's someone else with ro Paul. And you know, I'm not like, I like group Paul. But I've never watched drag race.
I'm not into like competition shows. But I realized like she's there to show context. And the passenger is ros dress less. I was like, oh my gosh, I can't believe it. So you're wearing like like a blue and green sort of like long evening gown and you've got like silver heels and you jump out and you say, get in, So I jump in. Isn't a while? So I jump in and you slide in behind me, and like rude just like hits the gas and you know,
you're both laughing. You've got like these big open mouth like like just happy, joyful, you know, just you know, happy expressions.
So we are.
Driving away and shadow Man is like closing in behind us, and he's running and you say to me, honey, you're never gonna outrun him. You're not gonna outrun him, and this dimension and then you lean over and there's like this this little box in the middle of the dashboard and you open it up and you say, that's why
we've got to go to another dimension. So you pull this knob in the middle of the dashboard and it's like this old timy knob, like off of a pinball machine that you would use to start a pinball machine. And you pull this knob and we like there's like a flash and a woosh, like in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure when they travel. So we just kind of like pop off to this other dimension and we flash and go to this other dimension, and you tell me
you're never going to see him again. He can't follow you and you're safe now. And at that point, my dream just sort of dissolves away and I wake up and I wake up crying, and I know that he's gone for good. Like you know, I've had this dream forever, but somehow, you know, it's fixed. So I haven't written that in until now it's been over a year, because I was afraid he would pop back up. But nope, you know, shadow Man has gone for good.
Oh my god, Well, I wish I could say that I, you know, jumped in your dream, like we've talked about on this show. That I guess some people can do that. I don't know that I did, but maybe maybe, somehow, some way in my dream state, I sensed it. But I'm honored that I was able to help.
Isn't that awesome that either my subconscious or some guardian angel in my my dream land decided, you know, the way to fix this problem for good is by you know, bringing in ross. And after that happened, I thought, you know, think about it. This problem was this, you know, dark hate, full energy, and you know, how do you combat that? You still need someone who's strong but you know, feminine and fun, and you know, I just I think that's incredible.
Oh my god, this is so great. Thank you for sharing this.
Yeah, and thank you for your podcast and you know, for rod as dressful as I think there's many other people out there that you've helped through you know, the COVID times.
Yeah, I kicked that shadow man's ass and I'll do it again. Let's hear your Ouiji board story.
Sure.
In college, I lived in an old building that used to be a church and it had been divided into apartments, and we kept having weird things happened. I kept thinking that my roommate had come home and I would go to talk to her and she hadn't come home. We kept seeing things out of the corner of our eye, and we decided we're going to get a Oiji board and figure out, you know, who are we sharing our apartment.
Well, wait, when you say that your you thought you saw your your roommate, do you think it was like a doppel ganger, like straight up doing an impression of your roommate and look like her, or like you just saw someone and you assumed it was her.
I would see a movement out of the corner of my eye and I wasn't sure if it was a doppelganger or just a spirit kind of floating by. So I really can't say. And you know, back back then in the nineties, no one knew what a doppelganger, you know it was. It was just, you know, you would get this feeling you were being watched, or you would see something out of the corner of your eye. But definitely I would see what I thought was my roommate walking to her room, and I would go to ask
her how her day was, and she wasn't there. And I kept that to myself, and then eventually my roommates admit that they were experiencing the same thing. We had one of our moms stay with us, and they said that they were having the same trouble. So we thought, we need to figure out, you know, who is hanging out with us. So we get oeg board and one of the spirits we were talking to said it was my grandmother. And I said, there's there's no way I'm
talking to my grandmother. This is, you know, insane, and it's kind of rude for you to act like you're my grandmother. So the spirit said, no, I'm your grandmother. And I said, if you're my grandmother, tell me you know. And I asked, are you my grandmother on my mom's side or on my dad's side? And the spirit said they were my grandmother on my dad's side. And I said that this is true. Tell me how many brothers and sisters my dad had? How many siblings were in
his family? And she said all together five and I said that's wrong because it's four. And then the Luigi board starts moving around and it's getting like really agitated, and it starts moving around fast and real jerky, and then it starts spelling out Francis, and I'm like, I
have no idea who Francis is. And it keeps going Francis Francis, and then it starts spelling out, you know, baby Francis, and I said, I don't know who baby Francis is, and it goes baby crib death, Francis, baby crib death, Francis, Francis, Francis, and I'm like, you know, let's let's stop doing this. So I didn't think anything
of it. It was about six months later and my mom is visiting and just out of nowhere, she said, you know that there was another sibling in your dad's family that they had a baby brother named Francis and it died from krip death.
I know.
So do you think that that was your grandma in the apartment?
I have no idea. And then I've heard about the collective unconscious theory too, where you kind of carry along with you everyone that's come before you and your own brain. So I don't know if I was just channeling, you know, something that I had remembered from my ancestors, or if it was my grandma that was looking over me.
So I don't know.
I mean, what do you think, Well, I think that if that is the case, that it was like, you know, somewhere deep inside your brain. Whether you think you know that or not, I think that that's pretty cool.
I have no memory of them talking about you know, Francis in front of me.
You know.
I think a psychologist would say, at some point when I was very young, I heard that story and internalized that somehow. But you know, I don't know if it was my grandma that was in this apartment with me or what.
Well, and it could just be that you guys were using the weedi board looking for you know, basically who's around, and your Grandma's like, well, I'm available, I'll talk to you, not necessarily being the spirit that's in that house, you know, right.
And then also that was my sophomore year. That was the year that you know, I came back to school and started partying really hard, and I just remember laying in my bed and feeling like someone was watching over me, saying like, you got to cut that out, you know, you don't. You don't want to get partied out. You know this, this is not a healthy lifestyle. So it could have been my grandma looking over me that way, or.
Yeah, but activity that, you know, seeing someone out of the corner of your eye. Did that continue?
It continued as long as I lived there?
Wow?
Yeah?
Interesting? Hey, you want to listen to an EVP with me?
Definitely?
Okay, it's time for EVP or ev plice. This one is from someone on YouTube called Haunted Stories and it is at a place called the Malvern Manor in Melvern, Iowa. It's actually been on the TV show Paranormal Lockdown with Katrina Widman. Now this place? Okay. I went to a website called Nonpair nonperiealonline dot com. They talk about the Malvern Manor and they say it has a storied history. It was built in the eighteen eighties as a cottage hotel.
It was the town's hotel. According to historical records. The hotel is about ten thousand square feet, went through a handful of owners. In the middle of the twentieth century, it was converted into a nursing home and later a group home. Long after the building had fallen into disuse, there were rumors of strange happenings. Creeks, cracks, unaccounted for, footsteps, voices and shadows, moans, screams, the eerie feeling of being watched. Oh, I don't know about the plumbing, but wow, okay, here
is one. This one creeps me out. So a little bit of background noise like always, But tell me if you hear anything.
With this voice. Did you hear it?
I have to hear it again, okay.
Anything?
Well, it kind of sounds like pe drop silverware. Oh it sounds like they said out or something.
Without Yeah, yeah, here, I'll play it again.
It's like cheat too.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Is it even English?
Well, here's some options. Okay, is it a what a flashy top? And like maybe someone had a nice top on or I don't know what they're talking about.
Uh?
Is it b the flesh is coming?
Oh?
What does that even mean? See, you need to stop or d ooh refreshing snacks. Okay, let me play it again.
Oh I hear the fleshy part now, and I have goosebumps.
I know they think it says the flesh is comingh okay, wait, let me play it again. I hear ooh, a fleshy top. The flesh is coming? Is that what ghosts call us living people? The flesh? I actually do. I don't hear is coming, but I do hear like the flesh I hear that kind of a thing, and it does sound to me like yeah, more of a shorter syllable at the end or whatever. But either way, the thought of the flesh is coming.
That's horrifying. I hear like the flesh is up. And then I hear them opening the top off of a beverage, which I think.
So see now that could be refreshing soda, and then they open a lot Troy, that is scary.
Uh.
I'm so grateful that you shared your story with me. Your story is I love this dream stories so much and I'm honored to have been able to be in your dream and I'm so grateful that the shadow Man is never going to come back for you.
Oh and I'm so grateful for your podcast and all the hours of entertainment it's given me. And thank you so much for sorting out my dream problem.
No problem at a time. I've been ghosted too. Hello James in San Diego?
How are you?
I'm good, ros, how are you? I'm so excited to be on the show.
Oh my gosh, I'm so excited to have you. Have you ever been to the Whaley House? I mean, I feel like that's like the most famous haunted place in San Diego.
Yes, so when I was a little kid, I used to actually beg my dad to take me there, and I want to say every weekend. I was like in kindergarten in first grade. Yes, I remember. He used to really humor me, both of my parents did, with like my interest in the paranormal. But he bought me a disposable Kodec camera and let me go take pictures in the Whaley House and we took them to the hour photo down at the Rate Aid after and we got back the pictures and they're just I wish I could
still have them today. I don't know where they are, but they are full of weird stuff like orbs, light phenomenon like shapes. Almost every single photo had something super intense in it cool, and I remember bringing it into my teacher in first grade to show her. And I don't think that I told my parents I was going to do that, because I figured they probably would have been like, well, maybe that's not like the best thing
to do. I remember bringing them for her and her just I think thinking I was probably quite a strange child, but I was so proud of them and wanted to show everyone.
I still have never had a single damn thing happen to me at the Whaley House. The Whaley ghos want nothing to do with me, And I've probably been i don't know, probably close to ten times in my life and nothing. I think what I need is a CODEAC disposable camera.
Yeah, I think you do. I mean, I've honestly had nothing happen as an adult since I've gone. But I kind of think sometimes buildings that are older, maybe they lose the haunting. If it's like a residual haunting, maybe after time that wears off. I don't know, that's kind of my career, Like maybe they goes to just get tired. Right.
Well, sounds like you're are you like a paranormal person? Are you like really into this stuff?
Yeah?
I think I have periods where like I kind of get really into it and like I'll read all about it for months, and then you know, there's times where I don't really participate in it as much. But yeah, my whole life, I've always been super interested in anything kind of paranormal or dark or spooky, or witchcraft or ghosts or UFOs, anything like that.
Can we hear a story?
Yeah, definitely, I was trying to think of different ones, and I actually have quite a few.
Oh, give it to me, all right, where do we start?
So I guess I have a story about my family in the house that my mom grew up in. So my mom's side of the family, her grandparents were all
born in Transylvania over. Yeah, they moved over to the United States, like right before World War One, and like immigrant family, they spoke German and Hungarian, very very Catholic, the Catholic in that sort of Eastern European way where it's kind of a little bit I would almost say pagan and very like superstitious, lots of like very specific beliefs, like my great grandmother was terrified of the evil eye, Like if someone passed away in the home, she would
always immediately go to a mirror and cover it with fabric to keep their soul from getting trapped the mirror, like those sorts of like old world beliefs. So we grew up hearing a lot of stories from the old country from everyone who had kind of grown up there. And there's always kind of been a little bit of a a witchy kind of aspect to that side of the family from that history. So cut forward years to
this nineteen sixties seventies. My mom is like a young woman, graduated from high school, but not married to my dad yet, so she's still living at home. And the home that they're living in San Diego has a poulter geist. And this was the first time that we had had a poltergeist in the family, and they've kind of been a regular thing ever since then, specifically with my grandmother, who was my mom's mom. And I've heard stories about this house.
The family no longer lives there anymore, but they would start with knockings. They would hear around the house. Doors would open, windows would ow open. The radios would just turn on and off. The dials would fully move across the front, you know of the old fashioned radio. The TV would turn on by itself, and this is you know, before they had remote controls and you'd actually have to physically go to the device and operate it, you know,
on the side. And I think the scariest thing that happened to them was my grandmother woke up in the morning and went into the kitchen to start making breakfast, and all of the kitchen cabinets and drawers were open, and all of the pots, pans, plates, utensils. Everything in the kitchen was laid out on the floor and in the dining room nothing was broken, like, nothing fell out. It was all taken out place down and no one had heard a thing. Yeah, no one heard anything in
the night. They just woke up and were like, what the hell is going on here?
Oh God?
See that to me can get dangerous, like something fly your head, Like that's really scary, especially the kind of I mean ghost or or energy or whatever's that's like, Oh, I'm really gonna mess with these people. I'm going to do this quietly.
Yeah.
I think the quietness is like the sinister feeling part of it. It's so sneaky. I don't know.
But you were saying that they've had multiple Poultergeists since.
Then, Yes, yeah, they. It's interesting because for stuff I've read about Poultergeist, there's a theory that it can kind of be like trauma is expressing itself in the form of energy. And like, my family's wonderful and like I love all of them very much, but definitely during those years there were family things going on, like all families do, but to the point where I could kind of understand maybe this was someone's energy that was causing this to happen,
and ass why it was happening. But we had also heard that the family that lived in the house prior had a son that was in high school and he had actually completed suicide in the home. So that's kind of an option too. But I feel like that's I don't necessarily think that that would cause something like that to happen. I don't want to blame someone, if that makes sense, you know, for haunting like that. But yeah, there's always kind of been a poultergeist ever since then.
My grandma's last house that she lived in, she rents it. It was like a tract home in a subdivision in Fallbrook if you know where that is, kind of like North San Diego County, and it was this little, just really quiet, normal looking home at the end of a cul de sac, super innocuous that when she moved in, the person who was renting it to her told her, you know, I just want to let you know in case anything happens, there has been some history in the
upstairs bedroom and we have had an exorcism. I don't think anything should bother you, but I just want you to know so you can tell me if something happens, and I understand, and that would have been a red flag for me immediately to maybe not move in, But she moved there. It was a two story house and she was living with my uncle at the time, and he's a disabled veteran, so he doesn't really go upstairs.
He would live on the main floor of the house, the ground floor, and my grandmother had the master bedroom that was upstairs at the very back of the house. So there's a front bedroom that was on top of my uncle's bedroom that no one used, no one went in, no one lived there. It was more or less empty.
It just had a closet. And my uncle would say that all through the night or through the day, he would hear like knocking footsteps, people talking at nighttime, like furniture being moved, people having conversations, everything coming from that room. And he's not going up there. And then my grandmother in her nineties, so she's pretty limited too in her movement. She's not going and moving any furniture, you know what I mean. Yeah, And they would always talk about it.
My grandmother would constantly have things go missing, where they would just disappear and then show up months later. For a period of time, her cell phone went missing, and we were concerned because I don't remember she had a landline at the time or not, but we were trying to get in contact with her and the phone was just always going through to voicemail, like it was turned off.
And she has an older person, so like it was concerning to us wondering what doesn'thing happen to her, So we were finally able to get in contact with her. Neighbor went and checked on her and the phone had
just disappeared. So she had to go get a new phone, pay for one, get a new plan, cancel the old one, do all of this, and a week or so after getting the new phone, she has a cleaning lady that will then help her do kind of like the heavy cleaning, you know, a couple times a month, and the cleaning lady finds her phone in the closet of the front bedroom, on the very very top shelf, hidden like behind a comforter or something. Yeah, how to get up there?
That's the part that's always the part.
That's the part that's weird. It's like my uncle can't climb stairs and there's no way that she's getting on a ladder. But yeah, it disappeared from her kitchen table and that's where it was.
Now, Okay, one thing that I was thinking that this is like another poltergeist theory. However, I might not work for this scenario, given the fact that the person the realtor whoever, when she moved in, said that there was history already in that house. But sometimes it's telekinesis like maybe your grandma had that ability, whether she knew how to control it or not. Kind of I mean, not unlike Carrie or something, but I think it's a little different.
But sometimes there's people that can, you know, move things with their brain and then they move from house to house and it gets confused for being a Poulter guyst But no, it sounds like there was other stuff going on.
Well, it's like I thought about that too, And like I said, my family has there's like a witchiness to them. I don't know how to describe it otherwise, but there's something kind of psychic. I think they vibrate on some frequency, especially the women on that side of the family that if it were one of them was had secret telekinetic abilities and was unknowingly causing things to happen. I would not be surprised.
WHOA Okay, tell me another one.
So let's see.
I do have a couple stories with my mom. She's no longer with us, unfortunately, but she was kind of like my mentor with the spiritual, you know, kind of mystical realm as a child. We grew up Catholic, but we also like did tarot car as. My mom would play with Luigi board with me, which is kind of controversial looking back on that now as an adult, I'm like, I don't hope I would do that with my kid,
but we always had fun. But I would kind of like talk about that kind of stuff with her because she was interested in it as well, and whenever we would kind of go places together, I feel like maybe that shared interest between us kind of like would attract things to happen to us, if that makes sense. I
used to live in the UK. I went to university over there, so I was there for two years and she came to visit me for a trip and we stayed at this very very old and I believe it's called the George and Pilgrim in a town called Glastonbury. I don't know if you're familiar with Glastonbury Music Festival is, yeah, they have the music festival there, and then the town itself is like kind of a mystical, little ancient pagan village.
There's a lot of sort of hippie type people who lived there and like modern day neo pagans and witches, and there's a history there too. It's like supposed to be the place where King Arthur had Camelot and a lot of kind of those myths originated in that area. So there's already like a very a very spiritual kind of mystic energy to that town. And we stayed in a very old hotel there. It like built in the twelve hundreds or something like that, like just ridiculously old.
But the room that we stayed in had just a very very simple room, you know, two beds and then a TV and a little console. We stayed there for two or three nights, and every single night in the middle of the night, the TV would just turn on constantly and like waga stuff. And so the first time, yeah, I hate it. The first time it happened, it freaked the like shit out of me because I'm a pretty deep sleeper. But I think it just came on a full volume in the pitch dark, and that was terrifying,
but I didn't think too much of it. I you know, turned off, went back to sleep. Happens again a couple more times, and I'm like, I don't know what it is, Like am I moving around and like I'm hitting the remote you know, on the side table with my arm or something like that, Like I need to go, you know, turn off. So I went over and put the remote control into the drawer of the little table that the TV was on, and it was still continuing to turn on. And so the next night I fully unplugged the TV
and it continued to turn on. That did turn on in the middle of the night.
Yeah, oh that's supposed to make it stop.
What.
I swear. And I leaving the hotel. I don't remember if it was someone I talked to the front desk, or if it was something that maybe I read in one of the brochures. But the room that we stayed in was called the Monk's Cell, and it's called the monk cell because in you know, medieval times, a monk had completed suicide in that room and it's supposed to be haunted.
Well, can we hear more?
Yeah, I have one more.
Okay.
So this also happened in England, and it was a town called Rye, and I was staying with my mother again in a very old hotel, and this time we had gotten a room that was in I think it was the converted attic of this inn that we were staying in. So it's at the very floor. There's nothing else on that floor, no other rooms, no walls shared with another room. It was just kind of the roof, so like a pitched ceiling and like a small room.
Nothing else around, no trees, no other buildings, nothing nearby. Just that was it on the top floor. And we were getting ready for bed, and I think both of us were, you know, in our beds reading something. It's nighttime, and I remember just kind of sitting there and reading my book and clear as day, very very loud, I start hearing chains being pulled and groaning, like somebody's moving boxes or like working very very hard to move something. And I sort of look up from my book and
my mom looks up. When we look at each other like did we just hear that? Like as there's something going on, And it happens again, but louder and it starts to become more voices and there's whispering and groaning and moaning and it. Thinking about it, it sounds so weird because it sounds exactly like what it would expect in kind of like a B horror movie from the seventies, like just very stereotypical, like oo like Halloween ghosts, Like it doesn't sound real at all.
Yeah, well, especially like the chains, like it's it could very easily get into like ghosts of Christmas past.
Kind very campy. Yeah, it was very very strange, and it's kind of the one that I don't really talk about that story with anyone, just because it sounds so I don't want to say unbelievable, because they all sound unbelievable, but it just just like even to me, and like it feels very on the nose. But I like, I will swear until you know I die. That there was like no recording, nothing on the TV. No one could have been around in a room nearby making that sound.
Nothing was outside, and it went on all night long. All night long. It was impossible to sleep because you could just hear the whispering in the back and the forth and it was so so strange, and unless it was an elaborate hoax where there's small speakers or something put around the room and we were on candid camera, which is what it felt like, and maybe it was.
I don't know, Well, why didn't you guys got to the front desk or anything.
I don't really remember if we did it or not. I do remember going down the next day to talk with my grandmother or my mom's mom, who would also stayed at the hotel, but on a different floor. And she's funny because she can be extremely blase about things in a way that's like just very comical and like comes across as very dismissive, but she doesn't mean it
to be that way at all. I remember going and telling her like, oh, like, I won't believe that this thing happened, and like there were these voices and all this whispering, and you can ask mom, like, I'm not making it up. You know she experienced too, and you know my mom was like, yeah, I know it did happen. My grandma goes, oh, well, isn't that interesting and then just goes back to eating her breakfast and never talks about it ever again with us.
Oh my god.
Yeah, Well, it sounds like ghosts love you.
I think they do. I'm okay with it as long as as long as they're nice.
A ghost in my house?
Oh my god.
I'm joined by Lewis in North Carolina. Lewis, how are you?
I'm doing wonderful, Ross, How are you doing?
I am so good. However, I was reading the email you sent me, and it sounds like you've seen some shit.
Yeah, I've seen some shit for sure. Yeah.
Well, it sounds like you have some really scary stories. But it's daylight here. I'm ready for it. Where do we begin?
I mean, I guess we began with the big one. So I'm Puerto Rican. My family grew up in New York, so I'm the quintessential just New Yorrican. And we grew up in a really old building in the Bronx. And when I was young, I had a room to myself and the room just had a massive closet that my parents kept luck because they just kept a bunch of drunk and all my toys in there, and it was just a hot mess and they didn't want me to
get hurt. At a very young age, I learned how to pick a lock, when I was about four or five, for Christmas one year, I had asked my parents to get me a punching bag. I had met a heavy bag, but at the time they bought me one of those, you know, one of those kids punching bags. Was like a blown punching bag. You hit it and it kind of come back.
Right, okay, and it was a it was a clown one, okay, possibly terrifying to some people, I get, uh.
Yeah, uh. And I used to play with the thing all the time, but anytime I've done with my mom would always put all my toys in the closet, locked it up, and I specifically remember we used to put it there was a pile of toys in the closet, uh, And we would always put it behind the behind the pilot to just make sure nothing would fall in it and like pop it or play it or whatever. And for the longest time, I don't even remember how long
it took to start. I just remember I used to just play in my room and for the longest time, I just like started hearing weird noises in my closet. It first started off which just sounded like things were moving whatever. And eventually we started hearing like Crowley coming from the closet.
Yeah, it was.
For the longest time, I thought I only remember myself experiencing this, but then my sister admitted that she fully remembered all this with me too. I don't remember her being ever the life, But there was a couple of times where it just kept happening so frequently that me being curious, I would open up the closet, and when I opened up the closet, the punching may right there in front of the door, which terrified me because I'm like, I know I put it in the back, but I
removed it. I was like, whatever I'd moved it put in the back, just put it all the way in
the back of the closet and closed it again. And just I kept hearing these noises in my room, and like it was just constant, almost on like the daily, And it got to the point where it was just like it was really aggressive, and like I remember one time specifically, I was playing in my room and like it had happened a couple of tides where like I opened it and nothing moved around a bunch of times, and it got to the point where I literally just
like stopped touching it. I put it all in the back of the closet, like moved things around it so it wouldn't moved, and just locked it away. And I kept hearing these scratches and these like growls coming from the closet.
Scratches.
Yeah, Like I would hear on the wall, like as if like something was scratching on the walk in. My bed was on the wall against the closet, so like my headboard would be against the closet, and I would hear it just all days and night. And like I opened the closet one day and it was there again. And at that point I was just terrified. I was utterly done. Told my mother to pop it and throw it away. I was done with it, and we got
rid of it. But uh, granted that did give me a lifelong period of clouds because I just associated clouds.
But do you think that it was the punching bag or was it like something else in the closet.
So no, I think it was just something else in the closet that just like chose that. Because even after that happened, it was like constant, we just like still heard it, and like like I started getting night terrors at that point, and I remember at one point I had experienced sleep paralysis, I guess is the best way. I can't explain it, but it was the only time
in my life that ever happened. I woke up in the middle of the night and just for no reason outside of just feeling like a pressure on top of me.
And when I woke up, I saw this absolutely just terrifying figure laying over me, and just like the way I remember seeing it, it was fully just floating over me, but somehow just like holding me down, and to my recollection, I like I remember like trying to move, I could move my head and movie that I couldn't move, and it was absolutely terrifying, Like it was you know at the end of the conjuring too, where like she's getting rid of the noun baloic and like it like comes
out for a second that looked taint to what I said, Oh no, uh, And yeah, it was absolutely terrifying, and like I just remember it saying something and like I don't remember what, but I like I always just said that I'm pretty sure it like said like I'll be back for you, and just disappeared and screaming for my parents who were next door, and like terrified, I told my mom what had happened, and us, being Puerto Rican, I was baptized Catholic, so obviously she was like, here's
some holy water in this room. And we always kept the rosary in my room after that, but for years we went like it wasn't just in that house. It's like when we moved to Florida. We moved to Orlando, and when we went there, it was still following me around. But on a couple of occasions, like we would leave and we would come back home and the rosary that was on my raw would be just torn asunders.
Like torn like, oh my god, that's not good.
Yeah. It was just absolutely terrifying, and like I to this day, like we never saw out anything for it, but like I just remember like specifically, like when we lived in Orlando, my like my friends would come over and my friends were terrified to stay in my room and like even me, like I was absolutely terrified to go into my room. And my family could probably attest this. Whenever I went into my room, my door was closed. I always looked away before the if something was going to be on the.
Other side now did so going back before you guys got the punching bag, Was there stuff happening then or did it all kind of start when the punching bag arrived?
So I think, at least for me, that's the only time I started realizing that things started. But even before, like it was centered on me and like we would We lived in a pretty big apartment for New York City. We had like five bedrooms and it was just a long hallway between all the rooms, and we used to hear footsteps in the middle of the night and we would all just assume that it was one of the other ones getting up in the middle of the night.
But we would come out and like we would see everything. It's like there's everyone was in there, and we all just came out because we heard somebody walking out, walking down the hallway. And for the longest time when we lived it. When we lived there, we were to ask our mom, it's just place haunted because we hear things all the time, and she was like, no, no, it's
not haunted at all. When we moved to Florida and we were talking about all our experiences, my mother looked me in the face and like all of us in the face was like, oh no, it definitely was hanted. I just didn't want to tell you guys that, and we're like, excuse me. It was like she had told us that apparently, like the building had a dumb waiter, and that dumb waiter we could see it. It was by our front door, but it was like they sealed it off.
And I don't know what that means. What's a dumb waiter?
Yeah, you know those They use them in like old houses to like move things from one forward to another.
Oh, like a little elevator thing.
Yeah, like a little elevator thing. And it was it was permanently sealed off. And my mother had told us that apparently, I don't even know how long ago, but at some points a man had fallen from our floor through the dumb waiter all the way to the basement and died.
Oh my god.
And she just only told us that after we had moved on to the house.
Something about those things are terrifying to me anyway, But so okay, but there's a lot going on here. So there's somebody walking through the hallways and then there's like scratching and growling in the closets. I mean that that to me. Sounds like two different entities or you know.
Yeah, I do think they were two different things. But like I to this day, I don't know what the other thing started with because it followed me around for soul, and it did follow me. It was like specifically me. It wasn't anyone else in my family. Everything was always centered around like my room, everything was sent around me.
But you think that the the figure that you would encounter when you were in sleep paralysis, do you think that that is the same thing as what was in the closet or not.
I do think it was the same thing that was in the closet because that had happened, like I remember correctly, probably a week or two after we had just gotten rid of the punching bag in the closet.
That sounds like the most insane Amazon review for that punching bag, like, don't buy this punching bag. You will have a demon however over you in the night.
It was wild.
So so you moved to Florida. But when did this stop or has it stopped?
So the last place I remember it's stopping, so like when we lived in that apartment for however, and when we moved out of that apartment the first time after I graduated high school, when I was the only time like I remember like nothing ever happening, but I had seen the same figure again in another like sleeper Ouss's Nightmare when we had moved to Orlando, and like that's when things started back up in that house in Orlando, where like everything and there was just getting really bad.
I used to sleep in my closet door open because I was terrified of being closed and things being on the backside of it. But I do remember one time I had a friend sleeping over and we were all
just like our neighbors were over and everything. We were all just like sleeping over and my one friend had fallen asleep in my room and we were playing rock band that he brought over, and like I went to go wake him up because he knew the coach still knock all the songs, and we just turned on the light and he's freaking out and he was yelling.
At us, like what the hell.
I'm like, he was like what the hell, And we were like, woa. All we do is turn on the lights. He was like no, someone pulled the covers off the bed and we were like we all just walked into the room just now and he was on the opposite end of the room.
By the time. So now you live in North Carolina, though, is this thing happening now?
No, So like in terms of that, it's stopped probably around the time that, Yeah, like after I graduated high school, after we moved out of that apartment the second time, everything just stop. But even before then, everything kind of slowed down. And I'm not sure why. I'm sure why any of it happened at all, but there's a lot of theories and superstitions in my family. I don't know, but it's.
Yeah, Because you were saying that you have a family of psychic sort of what do you mean by that?
So on my mother's side of the family, it's always been like said that, like we have psychics in the family, like everyone has a little is a little bit gifted. My grandmother, who lived with us, used to read tarot cards and a bunch of other weird stuff, which was weird because my grandmother was illiterate, but she read tarot cards.
I've never made me my mother, everyone used to call her a witch because she would look at a woman and be able to know that she was pregnant before she even she was pregnant, and she could tell what a woman was going to have, like whether or not I was going to be a boy, whether I was going to be a girl before it was born, and she was always right, and it was the weirdest thing outside of that, Like I know, like my sister has admitted to like seeing stuff, which like it's not something
she likes or like fully addresses, but I guess I guess she in some way she is a medium because she's the only one I know out of us that actually see you that I think. I know my little sister has admitted that she sees ours. And for me, I know I very much had empathic abilities, like since I was young, I always remember like being able to feel up the's.
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