Listener Phone Call Extravaganza Part XXXIV

What's that a.

Bed?

It's spooky. I'm pretty sure it's dead.

It's coming this way.

Wait a minute, how I'm ghosted.

Us Nandez. Hey boo, it's me Roz. Welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez. We've got another listener phone Call Extravaganza for you, and you know the drill. If you want to be on one, all you gotta do is email Ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com with the subject line listener episode and give me some brief bullet points, maybe a sentence or two about the kinds of stories that you have, and then maybe we'll work something out.

I'm fantastic.

How are you so good? What kind of stories you got for me?

Okay?

I know I told you about three, and I believe they're all grandmother themed.

I love a grandmother spirit.

Oh yeah, my grandma and I were very close. I grew up with her. She's always been a very close relative. I mean she kind of basically raised me. So she passed away in twenty sixteen. And the whole story is a little bit of a two parter. It's so basically I was I went through a bad breakup in twenty sixteen. My grandmother was had fallen ill. She had lung cancer and she had she was just basically on hospice at that time. And I was going through a bad breakup at the time also, and I was kind of not

I was like, how are you getting there?

He because I already got a I already got a U call, and I was like, when are you leaving Saturday? The same day that I bought my plane ticket for. I don't know how I manifested this. It happened weird, super weird, but I'm very glad it did happen because I was actually able to go to Riverside with him, where my grandmother was, and see her before she passed. WHOA, Yeah, So I was able to spend like a week with her while she was basically on her deathbed. It was

It was all waiting for me back there.

So I had gone back, and I think maybe there was like maybe two weeks after that, I was in San Francisco partying it up with some friends and I got the phone call from my mom saying Grandma's gone, and uh, I.

Was like, okay, cool, we expected this. I get it.

I'm at a party right now, I'm not gonna I know she would want me to like actually have fun rather than be sad about this, So finish off the party, went home, went out to Sacramento, I think the next day, and I believe it was that night.

So this is where it gets weird.

That night, I had gone to bed and I had this crazy dream about my grandmother. It was I have I've had some pretty crazy dreams in my life, like I've I'm a very spiritual person. I've I've had some very outlandish dreams. But this one was different because it had a completely different feel too. It It seemed real, it was, but it was like also cartoony in a way. But I had woken up in her basically her her to her mobile home park that she would live that she was living in at the time, and she was

It was just immediate.

I had never experienced anything like that before in my life. It was I've experienced some really weird things before, but like nothing like that.

It was.

It was a very unique experience, I think, and I definitely think that I was visited.

By my grandmother.

That's beautiful.

Yeah, oh that's not the only time she's visited me either. She's visited me a couple other times too.

In dreams, I mostly get like, I mean, I'm a very spiritual person.

I read Taro. I do all kinds of things, but.

Yeah, I've I've had experiences like that, but but I think mostly got communicated with in dreams.

Well, you said in an email that you talked to her through a psychic. Yeah, where did you meet the psychic?

I met him on Grinder.

There was a point in my life. I haven't been on Grinder in a long time, but there was a point when I was on Grinder, and that's how I met my hair somebody that was cutting my hair for a couple of years.

I mean, you could be.

Some really great people in there. I'm not on the apps either anymore. But this is a really weird time in my life too. I was worth a kind of a dark time and my I just was like I just need to get late or something because I just I need to like get out of the house. And so I started talking to this guy really cute whatever, and we started changing messages and saying like, how are you, where are you? Who are you? Whatever? And he goes, I have a really weird question for you. I go, yeah, sure, He.

Goes, do you a lot of things on Grinder?

True?

Yeah, very true.

And she goes and he goes, do you have an old her female presence that you were very close to.

And I was like, yes, this is weird.

And he goes, is, was she your grandmother on your mom's side. I go yeah, and she and he goes, is your birthday in September? What is happening? I go, yes, that that's where my birthday is. She goes, and he goes, it just passed, you know, happy birthday. But your grandmother is actually here with me, and she wants to say hi.

Oh my god, your grandma was on grinder.

My grandma was on grinder to say hi to me, and so I was like, whoa wait a second. So like, now I have to meet this person because this is just too creepy and weird. And so we meet up. I go over to his place. He actually does a terror reading for me and actually like like telling me all the things I should be doing instead of what I wasn't doing, you know, and he goes, well, your grandmother, like, you know, she just wants to know that she really

So, did you guys hook up?

No, I did not get laid. I think the mood had gone by that point. Yeah.

Yeah, that's not usually how it starts.

No.

I was definitely like not in the right mind frame for that after that, but no, I was very thankful for that.

I never saw him again.

Oh my god, that's amazing. Okay, tell me another story.

All right, this more of a synchronicity story.

But my I, my mom is a bit of a hoarder. She had recently moved. This just happened maybe like last year, but she had recently moved to this this apartment, and.

She had all this stuff in storage.

So I went out to Riverside to help her move all of her stuff from the storage to her to her new apartment. And we found all kinds of all kinds of things, one of which was being We've already had this discussion of like where grandma or Grandpa might not have been my grandpa like Grandma might have had a uh grandma might have had a an affair during the time of my mom. So it's been this question for the past couple of years between me and my and my aunts and my mom and everything. It's like, well,

And now Maury's off the air, that show's not't even on.

Anymore Morey's off the air. But one of which that we found was we found this lighter and I looked at this lighter and I was like, who's E T. And she looks and my mom looks at me and she goes, well, no, it says et On here, who's E T? And and he goes, oh my god. And she goes, oh my god, that's Ed Taita, the guy that grandma might have had.

An affair with.

She she had this lighter in her stuff still, and we found it in the storage unit.

Your light definitely was doing things with E. T.

Exactly exactly.

But one of the other things that we found this was kind of the most interesting part to me, other than you know, not knowing that my grandfather was maybe not my grandfather.

Was.

So I was cleaning up my mom's car again, huge order, papers, garbage everywhere. I love my mom, but it's one of the things. I was going through her car and I went through her glove box, which was just full of all this papers, all of these DMB papers and everything. I'm going through, I'm sorting and I found a letter that was addressed to me, and I was like, what the heck? But it was to my old address in Seattle, and I was like, what the heck is this? Why is it? Why is it still in my mom's car.

I'm like, Mom, what is this? She goes, I don't know.

It must have just been in the car, or maybe I forgot this or something, or maybe Grandma just wanted you to have it.

Now.

Yeah, it seems like that.

So but again, we always had this thing where she would say I love you more than a rainbow ever since I was a kid, and it was signed I love you more than a rainbow.

And I still have the card. It's kind of like one of the last things I have from her.

Oh that's so sweet.

I know.

Do you have other stories?

I do. I've actually seen a ghost.

Oh my god, can I hear?

Absolutely? Yeah.

So, me and a couple of my friends back when I was living in Riverside, This is maybe two thousand and ten or so, we had two thousand and nine, and so we had decided to go ghost hounding one day, me and two of my friends, and we had done a little Google search of like really cool cemeteries to go to, and one of which was Hillside Cemetery in Redlands.

This Google search brought up all of this.

Information to us, so we were like, we gotta go naturally, and we had. We had gone after the day and I brought like my pendulum with me to kind of like see if I can get any messages or anything, and to no avail. But we also wanted to scout out where we were going to get into what it looked like inside, so we don't get lost, because it's kind of a really big cemetery. And so we came back that night. We brought our camera equipment, me and

And so.

I go, yeah, sure, I drive the car around the back of the cemetery and we found a low hanging fence, so we're like, hey, we can hop over that easily.

It was like getting bigger.

And I go, Britdy, do you see that? She goes, yeah, I do, And I was like, what the hell is that? And it's getting closer and closer to us, And she could even vouch for this too, like to this day that we both saw the exact same thing, but it was coming towards us, and then I didn't want to wait around to see if it got any closer to us. It got like basically to the fence. We still couldn't make out any sort of shape on it. It's just like this weird mist that started coming towards us.

I said, oh, hell.

No, I don't think I've driven away, and like peeled out as fast as I ever have in my entire life.

Oh my god, I have never seen anything like that. Now, when you describe this, like did it look like if there was actual like mist of this world? Or was it like something that just didn't seem like it was natural, do you know what I mean? Like did it look different or did it just look like a vape cloud coming this way like you know what I mean? Or wasn't like something otherworldly as well? Like I don't know.

Our first guess was it might have been like maybe like a worker or like you know, someone who works in the cemetery at night with a light. Okay, you know, but as it got closer to us, we can clearly see that it was just kind of and it was a very clear night. It was just kind of like what seemed to be a sentient mist whoah. Yeah, it was coming straight towards us, and it was almost to the fence where we were maybe about I need to thirty feet away from us before I was like I can't, we gotta go.

Oh you know, it got really close to us.

It was very creepy, and my friend in the back was begging us to turn back around and go see because he didn't see it.

But I was like, no, we're not going back.

We we successfully went ghost hunting.

We didn't even have to get out of the car to do it.

You know, that's amazing. I wish it was always that way. Demmy, you you got the stories? These are good?

Thanks?

Are there anymore? While I have you here?

Have you ever heard of Random Nautica?

No?

Okay, well, random Nautica.

I don't know if you're into like quantum physics or anything like that.

Not a ton, but I love to hear about it.

Okay, Well, Random Nautica is basically it's an app that you can use on your phone, and I was. I became interested in this because I actually had a podcast I was working on for a while. I have one now, but my pre project, a Cosmic Journey. We had discovered this app and it basically we had heard the story about these kids in Seattle who had used this app. Basically, it's a quantum point finders, so like you set an intention and then it'll like find a random spot for you.

You can google this. It's a real thing.

But I was like, I gotta try this app, and so so I basically.

Took off on my scooter here in LA.

But again, that sounds like grinder, Like you just say your intention is dick, and then it shows you where to find.

It, and it'll show you where to find exactly. It's basically it's a grinder for plantum physics. Yeah, but so basically I don't remember what my I think my intention was angels because I wanted to go the opposite of what death was.

I'm like, let's do angels.

And so I had took off on my scooter and I was following this thing and I had gone really far from where I was. It actually took me pretty far. It took me like almost downtown. And I had gone down this hill. It was a very slight incline. It wasn't that bad or anything, but I had hit a pothole and I was almost to the end of where this location was and I had hit a pothole and I literally flipped over my handlebars and I fractured my arm.

What the hell?

Yeah, it was so weird.

I was like, well, I'm going to go to the hospital now I figured this out.

It was very weird.

But how does this app work?

I don't know.

So it's like a quant it's like a quantum point finder. It's like a random point basically you said intention and you know quantum mechanics kind of work. It's it's like very there's no rhyme or reason to it. It's just random. And so it just basically gives you a random point on a map and you go there. There's all these stories of like people that like set their intention like something really dark or something, and there's just like a

It's completely random.

It doesn't always work, but there's usually something you can gather from it if you go on these expeditions.

It's really interesting.

And it's called random Nautica.

Random Nautica, and I think the Reddit thread is called random knots, so like if it's that's what you're looking for on round, I.

Can't believe I've never heard of this. Oh my god, I'm gonna get into this.

Yeah, it's really cool.

I'm googled.

There's tons of tiktoks about it too. Check it out.

Oh there's a ghost in mind house Helen and the Colorado area.

How are you?

I am so good?

How are you so good? Wait? So you work at a haunted school?

Yes?

I do.

What kind of school? Like what age?

So it's a really rural school. So it's actually all kinds of kids.

It's everybody like kindergarten today.

It's yeah, actually like like little little kids.

We have a daycare all the way up through twelfth grade.

Whoa, and then also goes.

Yes, there are some of those hanging around too, apparently don't know how old they are.

Maybe maybe they're school age, maybe not.

Do you have any idea who they are?

No, that's also kind of the funny thing.

So, I mean a lot of people pass through because it is so like the building is a really important building, like for the community, so there are you like community events in it or other gatherings. It's not just for school. So who knows?

Hmm, Okay, well what kind of stuff happens.

So the craziest we're one of the crazier things that has happened is it actually happened a couple years ago. My coworker was doing lunches during the summer for our summer program, and since it was pretty small, she was the only cook that we had at the time, like over the summer, and so she was in the kitchen and she was in the back where there's like a table on a chair, and she was hitting your break and there were some papers and a pencil on the table.

Unfortunately, but I have seen it. And so she's just sitting at the table, chilling whatever, and.

You see the pencil, like you know how pencils are kind of like they're like octagons or whatever, so they have the ridges. Yeah, So the pencil starts like rocking back and forth a little bit.

She's not even.

Looking at it, and so it rocks, it rocks, and then it almost like it's like somebody took it and spun it from the middle.

Like towards her, and she freaked out and ran away.

Also saw that on the footage it was like break dancing, like yeah.

Yeah, basically yeah, yeah.

So she saw it in the moment and then was like I need to see the footage.

Yeah, because she knew there was a camera there and so when she looked at it, it was all right there.

And was it known that this place is haunted at this point?

So not exactly or like it doesn't get talked about all the time, but there's like people definitely have stories.

So, well, what kind of stuff has happened to you?

I mean, I hang out on the weekends at school because I just work all the time. And uh, there's just like kind of weird creepy feelings, like I know it's a big building.

I also never turn the lights on when I'm like, I turn them out in my.

Classroom, but I don't turn the building lights on when I'm here alone because I keep secretly hoping things will happen.

Really Oh yeah, I feel like you're.

Going after the ghosts like you do. I'm like, and I'm not listening.

It sounds scary to me. Well, did the kids ever report anything?

Not a ton?

Well, yeah, they like will hear something or they'll they'll say stuff. One time, we were watching a movie in the gym, like as a so it was actually Halloween, and uh, we had like a movie night, horror night, and some of the kids like heard stuff in the gym while we were in there watching it. But I mean there's a movie, but there was also just like moments where.

So like I was there too. It's like a chaperone.

And the the gym, Like the way the gym lights work is that they're either like there's one.

Section on of them or all of them on or none of them on.

Right, So the one like section of lights that was like the back of.

The gym section, so they're watching too, like yad lay.

Yeah, and so like you know this part when like they're the like she's totally coming at the kids in the family or whatever, it's like the worst part. Yeah, And so like right at that moment, like they're screaming on the movie, some of the kids are screaming a little bit.

And then there's one single light in the back of the gym just turns on.

That was her.

Yeah, I know it probably is. The kids believe in her too.

So so when like new teachers or whatever start working, are they debrief Like are people like just so you know, no, we.

Try not to scare them away at first because we're like, work here.

We need you teach your shortage.

Yeah yeah, but like uh but like it's funny because people come to conclusions on their own.

That's the best. When people are like have you ever heard that there's a kids And then you get to be the person that's like, oh, yes, let me.

Yeah this stuff happened. Yeah. So like I've heard multiple people tell me, like three or four different people.

Like when I first started working here, people were like, yeah, it's hatted and I was like what, No, it's not.

So I was even like, yeah, right, it's like a newer building whatever.

And then the custodian and she like swore up and down. She was like, nope, I hear doors all the time, I hear voices, I hear people coming down the.

Hall, and I'm the only one here. It's like eight o'clock. Yeah I know. And I was like I would be a little scared, So.

Like that's who's gonna see the most.

Exactly, Yeah, like they're alone, and that's at night, it's not even during the day.

And that was me. My little cart would have clorox, it would have wind decks, and it would have holy water.

Yeah, I'm like maybe I should get some of that. So yeah.

And then like so that custodian left and we had a new custodian and she came to her supervisor and was like, uh.

Anything weird ever happened here?

And her supervisor was like maybe why.

Yeah, what do you want to know?

And she was like, well, I was cleaning in one of the back hallways and I heard doors opening and closing and there's nobody else in the school at this point.

And her supervisors like, m.

M, it's nothing, it's nothing.

Just your head, it's fine, no, but like so she definitely heard something. And then even one of my fellow teas she was new this year and she was here around the weekend working and doing some stuff, and she heard like.

Like basketballs bouncing in the gym.

And like and.

That's actually the gym is supposedly like one of the more like creepy places that in the back of the kitchen where the pencil incident occurred. But she also heard like voices, Like she was down one of the hallways and she heard voices in like a classroom and nobody was in there and just weird. Yeah, it's so weird. And I'm like, who is this? Like I'm like, I don't know. I mean, I hang out at school all the time because it's my job, but I don't know why you and want to hang.

Out of school.

Good for you, I mean old school. Yeah, when there's no one there is that's terrifying to me.

Yeah, it's just like the cab my spaces and like the hallways don't have a lot of windows, but the classrooms have a lot, which is really nice.

But like echoe hallways and yeah, a gym, yeah, so many places A ghost could.

Be exactly, and who knows. There's like all these closets. They definitely hang out in the closets during the day.

I feel like like where no one goes in.

So you were also telling me that you grew up in a haunted farmhouse or you were living in one at one point.

So my family had one. So my family like used to my My family's from England and they owned a farmhouse for like, oh probably.

Like eighty years.

In England.

And yeah, in England, amazing, and yeah, it was great.

So I just got to go over and be like, Hi, I'm a weird American cousin. Let me like eat all your chocolate and cheese and then I'll leave. But yeah, and it was a really old house.

I think it had been built I want to say in like seventeen seventy three or something like pre United States I know, and I'm like, wow, it's still standing.

No, But it was a really it was a cool house. And and like my cousin and I we would go out in the yard and there would just be all this like broken pottery everywhere, like from like coming up in the dirt. Like we would literally play like archaeologists and go hunting for pottery in the yard. It was just so old, yeah, and people just throwing their stuff out like whatever this plate broke, don't need that.

So but yeah, weird things would like happen in.

This house too. So like my I always heard stories. My grandfather grew up there and he it was like the nineteen forties, so like literally like World War twur in England and so it's they've had you know, the blackouts and stuff like that. And at night, like they would just kind of go sit in like the kind of the the sitting room, I guess, like the like around the fire and stuff like that. And there was a couple of times where they just heard this like really weird noise coming from a corner.

And it wasn't just like oh there's a mouse in the wall or oh it's the wind. No, it sounded like literally you know those metal.

Cookie tins Okay, yeah, yeah, like.

Imagine somebody like throwing one down the stairs and the kind of noise it would make. H Yeah, and then they're like what was that? Nothing fell over and they like pulled up the floorboards to see if there's anything under there. There was nothing. They heard voices too, and my cousins actually or no, sorry, my great grandmother she heard her voice or her name being called, and like she was just doing whatever in the kitchen and she heard her name. She thought it was my great grandfather,

You need earlier? Why were you calling my name? And of course it was not him calling her name.

Yeah, and and yeah, and there's and there's no like I don't think if the time she had had any of like any of her kids yet.

So that happened.

And then because my family owned this house for so long, like so after my great grandparents died, my great uncle lived in it, and then.

Some of my cousins lived in it.

And uh so my cousins, like the ones who I used to go hunting for pottery in the yard with, they were there, but they were going on vacation and so they had like their oldest son who didn't live with them all the time.

He was staying in the house to house sit, and so he was.

Alone, and he heard from somewhere else in the house his name then being called, even though no one was home at all.

I hate when a ghost knows your name because that means that they're just chilling watching everything and taking notes and picking up like, Okay, that one's name is that it's like when I see him, yeah, like oh.

Yeah, and even I don't even know because it's weird because he didn't even live in the house of the time, so he was just staying there. So like, how did that ghost know his name? But it is here, like yeah,

Damn those Yeah.

Yeah, they're they're happy there.

I mean the farm used to be like a brewery, I think, so maybe they're having a good time still.

And yeah, and just like.

Yeah, I hear like all these stories too, Like my my grandfather also like, not only did the weird cookie turn get thrown down the stairs noise why, but he also woke up to someone standing.

Over him at night, Oh my god? And yeah, was with her. And then I'm like, well, Granda, what do you do? And he's like, I think I pulled the covers over my head and.

Just like sleep.

Well, yeah, what do you do?

Yeah?

Like what do you do? Yeah?

Like are you going to fight the ghost or what? But yeah, And then another like because my cousin then a different or not the one who was staying there, but one who was actually living there. She was my age, and she then told me that she woke up to someone standing over her in her bed. So it was again one of those weird, like seventy eighty year time jumps, you would say.

That ghost would get a new act. Oh yeah in that amount of time. You know, it's like learn a new trick, you know really, So then yeah, like a pencil, some people need to.

Get some pencils over there. Why are you just standing and calling people's names? That's that's kind of stocker behavior.

So, so what is going on with this house nowadays? Is it still in the family?

No, we sold it, so the family sold it off and uh because some of my family had passed away and all that.

So now it I think it's available to stay in.

Yeah, like uh huh so, but I'm not one hundred like sure what the booking situation is.

And I don't know. It's kind of in an industrial area.

I think, like it used to be nice farmland, but all I remember when I visited was like, well, the chocolate and the cheese, but also like a lot of cars driving by.

I can only imagine the reviews. Yeah, you might wake up to somebody's standing of for you, but otherwise amenities were nice. My god, Well, Helen, thank you so much for sharing all this.

Yeah, of course, thank you for having me.

Of course. Well, if anything else ever happens, give me a call and let's do it again.

Yes, you'll be the first to know if there are more pencils or voices for anything in school.

Thank you, and thanks for being a teacher. That's amazing.

I love it. Thank you.

I've been ghosted too. Oh my god, Daniel is here from Maryland. Daniel, how are you.

I'm doing well? Thanks, how are you? It's a happy mona pre sale ticket date to everyone who observes that.

Are you one of these Moona girlie?

I am?

I am.

I saw them on their last tour and I'm probably going to see them on this store.

So I love that. Yeah, I need to get into them more. Everyone's always telling me about them.

Album of the Year for sure, for sure.

Well thanks for the tip. What about ghost, Daniel, We didn't come here to talk about music.

That's true. That's true. I yeah, I have a couple of gros ghost stories, gross stories.

I said, tell the gross story first and then ago.

I mean, you're all pretty gross because a lot of my ghost stories come from this convent that I used to like. So, this convent is near where I grew up, just outside of DC, and I worked there and like would stay there for periods of time, sometimes for about ten years, starting in like nineteen ninety five or six, I think whenever I was twelve years old, and so

But was it like an active convent at the time. There were nuns around, So there were.

I think like three floors. There was like a basement and then a ground floor, and then two floors above that, and the top floors were all where the nuns lived, and then the ground floor in the basement had like these classrooms that had been turned into a daycare center and they had kids from like infancy up to like you know, pre kindergarten, like four or five years old.

And this is mid nineties when Sister Act was having its moment.

Sure, I think it was a little after that, but yeah, like that had happened, sure, And the daycare center was run by one of the nuns that lived there, who all like pseudonymously call Sister Mary. And yeah, and she was like my boss. My brother worked there, some of my other friends worked there, and we would like do

You know.

It was kind of fun.

You know.

So, oh my god, that sounds like a blast.

Yeah, it was. It was cool. I don't know, it's like a weird It's like a very formative part of my life. That is so I think strains and unique too, like just like living at a convent and like working in daycare as like a young you know again like at the time like male mask person, Like it's not usual for young teen boys to like work in daycare and childcare settings. But it was great, you know, and I eventually like went on to be like more of

It's amazing for a ghost story.

Yeah yeah, it's great, great abiance, you know. But uh yeah, so we you know, we like we knew that this storm was coming in, so we like gathered up batteries and flashlights and stuff because they had these really old fuse boxes at this comment where you could like it wasn't like the modern breaker boxes where you flip a thing back and forth. You had to actually like unscrew a fuse off it burned out and like replace it

Quiet, and you and the nun ghosts, me, Me and.

The nun ghosts and a couple of dogs and my brother and and so the biggest dog's name was Sammy. And you know, she was this big like kind of almost looked like a Rottweil or something, but like a real soft rout liler, like real big floppy ears and like had that color and that size, but was like such a big, like I don't even want to say gentle giant, because she was like more scared of anything

There at this point, Did you know that this place was haunted or oh yeah that cross your mind, okay.

For sure, Like but you know, you kind of I don't know, I don't know, not like sometimes the non supernatural source of of this type of thing is even scary, Like sometimes a person being there is scarier than a ghost, right, But I think we're kind of hoping it was like just people like being friendly maybe, but you know, like you it's it's that point where you start to feel really kind of uneasy because something's up, you know what I mean, and it's done.

I think it was one of the nuns lovers, like secret downlow lovers that that's what they would do, is like knock on the front door, knock on the back door really quietly. Yeah, they have to be really mysterious about it. And then they're like, clam, I think she's out of town. Like there's yeah, oh that makes a lot of sense.

Actually, secret illicit love affair that we didn't know about. Our young innocent minds. Couldn't couldn't have you know, figured it out. But yeah, so she so she runs back to the front door and we're like that's really weird. I'm getting scared, my brother's getting scared. We're not really talking about how scared we are. We're just kind of

Going with ghosts.

Yeah, I hated it, But I don't know what did.

Your friends say that like the lights were on or they just saw lights?

She said she saw lights like moving around, which I think she sort of had interpreted as us being down there with flashlights, you know, like kind of waving lights around or something. Seeing movement of lights in the basement was the general vibe.

Oh that was a ghost.

Yeah, I mean it seems like.

Oh my god, tell me more, tell me more.

Okay, I mean I have I have some more that happened there, and then I also have well, yeah, this one's pretty short, so that way it won't take up too much time. But so one one other summer weekend, sister Mary and the other nuns were all going out of town for like various different vacations, and so we were working there seven days a week over the summer.

Oh my god.

Yeah, total total tangent. But yeah, we're so we're down there, we're trying to move all this stuff, and there's like there's this one classroom that's closer to one end of the hallway and it was called like the Butterfly Room, and then it was attached to another classroom that went out to the back playyard that was called the Clown Room.

Were they like decorated like these things not.

At all, not at all. It was like literally just to have some kind of label for them, you know, like yeah, there was almost I don't think any yeah, any thematic decorations. But so yeah, we're like moving stuff around. We started on those two back rooms like near the yard, the Butterfly Room in the Clown Room, and we're moving the stuff off, and then the Turtle Room like has more stuff. It's a bigger room it was like for

So yeah, probably it was somebody trying to talk to you. It's probably like you missed the spot.

You're doing a bad job.

Yeah you waited till the last minute. Oh my god, this place sounds really cool.

It was. It was cool. Like we found like this weird underground crawl space that you could access through a panel in the wall of one of the downstairs classrooms that we called the World Beneath, and like you would find like old newspapers and like old soda cans in there, and we're like, is somebody hanging out here or is this just like when when was this stuff deposited here?

Because there's no way that's the nuns. The nuns are doing some Yes, did you hear about those nuns that like stole a bunch of money and went gambling a couple of years ago.

No, but that sounds cool.

Yeah, it was pretty cool.

Yeah, good for them, unless they stole the money from the less fortunate, in which case.

I don't know.

But if they just took it from what I think they did the church, you know, like they have all those nice things, they could afford it.

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