Listener Phone Call Extravaganza Part XXVIII

What's that a the fut of my bed. It's spooky and Joki, I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.

Wait a minute, Hey, I'm ghosted.

Hi ros Lends.

Please, Hey boo, it's me Roz. Welcome to this month's Listener phone call Extravaganza, the twenty eighth one if you can believe it. As always, if you'd like to be on one, just send me an email at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com with the subject line listener episode and some bullet points of what your stories are. You can find all that info also in the description of every episode. It also has the link to the merch for this show to my patreon Patreon dot com

I'm great?

Are you?

I'm so good? You've had some freaky stuff happened to you and I want to hear it. So where do we even start?

Do you want to start with my ghost story or like my childhood weirdness?

I don't know. You tell me.

Let's let's do the ghost story because it's it's a it's just fun.

Uh.

So I was at this guy's house and he went to go to the store and I'm sitting there by myself, and uh, there's no TV or anything. So saw my phone playing tapped out because that date game was addictive, and uh, all of a sudden, I hear like three people talking and it's about me, and like it was weird because it sounded like it was in the room but not like but there's no one there like it you wouldn't be from the other houses next by or any nearby or anything. It was weird, and uh, they

Like.

Oh my god, like super weird.

And when he came back, I told him about it, and his immediate reaction was to yell around the house, going, hey, guys, leave her alone. Not that I'm a crazy person, but that they're a legit ghosts there that he did not warn me about.

Wait a minute, Okay, this is like like a movie or like the TV show Ghosts or catle Juice or something where there's like a group of ghosts just staring at you, not thinking that you could hear them or see them, and they somehow kind of got busted as they're over here kind of talking shit and kind of being like, uh, this is not the girlfriend. Yeah, you know about their girlfriend. This is not the girlfriend.

No, the girlfriend.

Yeah.

And I totally asked him about that too. It was like, so you have a girlfriend and he's like, oh yeah.

I'm like, oh my god, these ghosts totally blew his cover.

They did. Uh yeah. I left. I was like all right, no, but like it was definitely like a weird It was a weird night. It's a weird night in general.

I oh but uh yeah, yeah, we had a long.

Carve like a like I yelled at him a bit about that, and then I was like out and went to the bar because.

So did the conversation about the ghosts with him just end there? Or did he have anything else to say about him?

Well, I mean we started talking about the girlfriend thing more than the ghost thing.

Right, Yeah that makes sense, but that is so funny. I have not heard a story like this before, and I love it.

Yeah, I definitely will. I did ask him, like, I was like, uh something like about like so you knew these were here, and he was like, yeah, they've been around, but usually they leave people alone. I'm like, what you

What but did you go to out of all those options?

It was a Pentecostal church like the Holler and Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit, and like because of that, I think I was brought up more open to the spiritual world because you're pretty much like being open to it when you do it properly, uh, and you actually like are doing it for the religious, like the spiritual aspect and not the crazy religious I want to have something over other people bullshit.

But I just also think that if you're raised to believe that there's something more than what we see, yeah, then it really it can open your mind to like, yeah, there's all kinds of stuff that could mean a lot of different things.

Yeah, definitely. And like I had a lot of shadow people in my house, and then there was also like I saw like a lot of weird stuff when I was a kid, and then like I learned how to close off my mind and not see it because it's too much. But there are a lot of shadow people in my house, and I learned at an early age that they don't really like, actually, will They're not actually going to touch you. So I never stopped being scared of them, even though they're annoying and creepy.

Now, did you think that this was connected to the house or.

So the house was a new development, Like my parents bought it when it was first built in the eighties, and so we were the first people to live there.

Well that's what the family from the Poulter guys said.

Dude, Yeah, but uh yeah, I definitely Like especially my room, it had weird, weird energy in it.

Like there was a cloud thing with red glowing eyes that would sit in the left hand corner of my room and like it wouldy stare at me all night and it never moved, and it was like this dark cloud I think it was gin because it wasn't. It didn't act like other shadow people that I had encountered, and it like just kind of watched and the more that I talked to it, the less like imposing it was. And then eventually after like two years it went away. It's weird.

Wow. Yeah, you so you were raised so your your father, you said, is from Iran, Yeah, and so so you were kind of is that because of that art were you raised with the idea of a gin.

Yeah, I was taught about like because my dad, like we had a lot of like books on like you know, the Qur'an and like Persian poetry and like ah, I think like a book on Zarasteutism and stuff. So like it was the influences were there, you know, but I'm just guessing it's one of those because it didn't. Yeah, it didn't feel like other shadow people. You know, like other shadow people feel like they're like lurking, Okay, And I don't know how to describe it. Other shadow people

From your experience with shadow people, does it seem like those are kind of connected to human spirits or uh, do you think that there's something mouse.

I think they latch onto human spirits to like get energy. But but I feel like most of the time they like will leave you alone. If you're aware of them, then they leave you alone. But if you're unaware of them, I think they like jump on and latch on. Yeah, That's how I always So that's why you gotta like put up your light and you know, keep yourself guarded and not get too too drunk, because then sometimes when you get drunk, they'll latch on and then you start doing all sorts of things.

Oh, oh my god, do you think that they're just like hanging out outside of bars?

Oh yeah, Oh God, tell me more, tell me more.

Do you have other stories?

I have other stories?

Oh what about your guardian angel?

Oh, my guardian angel? And yeah, so growing up, I had a guardian angel that would like come talk to me. Like one time. I uh so when I was four, I hit my head on a brick fireplace and like crack my skull open and had to get stitches and yeah, and I think it's probably why I can see all these things.

Really, I mean, hey, that's possible.

Yeah. But uh after that, like I remember like this bright lady would come to me all the time, and uh she saved me from an asthma attack one time because it was just me and my mom home alone and my mom was busy doing something and like I thought I was gonna die and she like saved me, and like I ran downstairs to talk to my mom about it. My Mom's like super busy, like what do you need? And I'm like oh, okay, never mind, So it wasn't you Okay.

Wait, what do you mean she saved you?

Like she just put her hand on my chest and told me to breathe, and like all of a sudden, I could. It was weird, like, oh yeah, I uh my uh. Parents didn't believe inhalers because they had speed in them, so they wouldn't they wouldn't acknowledge that I actually had asthma, but I would have asthmattacks like all the time. Yeah, it was dumb, you know, eighties parents.

Yeah, So do you encounter this guardian angel other times in your life?

Yeah. She would come by and talk to me every now and then, and I remember asking her if I could be like her, and she got really sad and she was like, no, he can't be like me. I was made this way, but you could. She actually introduced me to the term bodhisafa because she was like, you can be a bodisafa. And I was like, what was that?

So has this guardian angel popped up in your life like in recent times?

No, the bodhisofa conversation was the last time she talked to me, and she told me that was it, like that She's not supposed to come and talk to me all the time, And I was like, but we're friends.

You're like, I will tell your boss.

Yeah right, it's cool. Yeah, and like, uh yeah, let's see. Oh there's the time uh that I got hypothermia and almost died and I went to the Void Space and I met a man in a dirty squirrel costume smoking a cigarette. It was very annoyed that I was there.

Okay, hang on a second, So you got hypothermia, you pretty much like died.

Well, I passed out. I didn't go to the hospital or anything. I had like passed out in my car with the window cracked and it was raining, and my friend came out and found me and couldn't get the door open. She finally did and like changed my clothes and I like was like whoa, but uh she warmed me up and everything. But I went to the void space and this guy was like very annoyed to see me. He's wearing a dirty squirrel costume and he was like, you're not supposed to be here, was the first thing

Wait a minute. When you say that. There was a guy's so he was smoking and he was wearing did he like have like a mascot outfit on and he had the head off or what No, it was like a onesie okay.

That had been like worn a lot and not washed, and it was like everything was black and there was no floor or ceiling, but there was a doorway and he was standing in front of the doorway, and he told me that I wasn't supposed to be there yet. And then as he's talking to me, this lady in a cupcake dress comes popping out of nowhere and she's super happy and very welcoming, and she's like, well, welcome, come with me and I will take you to place.

Well yeah, and she's also like come die.

Yeah. Essentially the squirrel man had my back, even though he looked very suspect as well. But uh, but.

Yeah, god, yeah, this kind of stuff like when people have near death experiences and it's said there's such deep conversations surrounding that because it goes into kind of like what like what happens when you die? And it goes into like, of course none of us truly know, but no, sometimes I I mean I can never say that I

You know.

I've said that about like psychic abilities too, Like I think that those just manifest in different ways for different people or whatever, and and I mean with that, with that line of thinking, maybe that's what it's like in your afterlife. Maybe you've got a glimpse into what it would be like. Or I don't know, what do you think?

Well, who knows what was on the other side of that door, you know what I mean? Like because that doorway led somewhere, but the guy did not want me to go through it, which was nice of him.

And people have real fun outfits where and you're, oh, yeah, void.

Like I guess everything they show you what makes you most comfortable, and I guess I'm more comfortable with zany outfits.

Yeah, So when you woke up with your friend, did you have like a Dorothy and Wizard of Oz moment?

Well, Like, I like I kept telling her I was fine until she like like changed my clothes because I had changed the clothes in the trunk. We were camping and I just fell asleep in the wrong place and she changed my clothes. And as soon as I got dry clothes on, I like snapped too, and I was like, oh my god, I'm freezing, and like she got me into a sleeping bag next to the fire and like, you know, got me warm. Again whoa.

When I said Dorothy from Wizard of Oz, I'm thinking right now, like, isn't that kind of exactly what like do you? Isn't that kind of like that was Dorothy's version of oh.

Yeah avoid or yeah yeah yeah. The Void Place is a crazy place. Two thousand and ten. Maybe I had a dream where I went to the Void Place and it was all black and just neon outlining of like buildings I guess you can call them, and it was all two dimensional, which was super weird. And then like it was like a school, but it was like a school, and like we played this game where we threw energy at each other as like a group, so it taught you how to be more community minded and I was

Wait, the fifteen of Clubs.

Yeah, it's not a real card, but it it wasn't my dream.

Interesting, but that wasn't like a near death experience or anything. It was just a dream.

It was just a dream. I've been there before in my dreams, where it's just like nothingness and like it's it's kind of like if you've ever dream walked, When you leave your dream and you're going to somebody else's there's this weird blank space.

I've been ghosted too. I am now joined by Kathy in Australia. Hi Kathy, Hi Ron, how are you? How are you? I'm so good, Thanks for thanks for waking up. Good morning, because it's a wild time difference over there. You're in the future.

Technically, yeah, but I can't give you any lot of numbers.

Oh my, Kathy, that's the whole reason I called. Well, you're from You're originally from Boston, right.

Yea, yeah, my family's originally from Boston.

And in case anyone's wondering why you don't have an Australian accent.

I know everyone's always disappointed when they're like, oh, my friend from Australia is coming and I'm like, I'm American.

Though, So what kind of ghost stories you got for us?

Oh?

So, the first one is probably the biggest incident I ever had.

Okay, and it was.

It was actually when I ended up, I was living in Boston and then I had to find an apartment and it was so expensive, so I ended up moving out to the suburbs after my roommate had like moved out. So I ended up finding this cute little apartment in Westborough and it was like on a main street and the like really really cute old buildings. It's like, what could go wrong?

Really, it's cheap mm hmm.

And the first few months it was, I'm sort of it just felt odd that I thought it was my first time living on my own, so maybe that's just God. And then I started waking up around between three and four and hearing like this weird shuffle, like a footstep shuffle across like across the hallway, like in my apartment, but like in front of my bedrooms.

So was it fast or slow?

It was like a.

Kind of, oh that sounds fast.

Yeah, it was, because it was like that really you know when you get like that, really it's like not soft carpet, but that really weird hard carpet.

Yes.

Yeah, So it was like that, so you could really hear anything that crossed it.

Oh my god, I don't know if you know this, but I told this in my first ever episode of this podcast. I had an experience where there was shuffling on cheap apartment carpet, and so I know this very well.

Oh yes it's not it's not fun at all.

Okay, okay, but I'm listening. So what happened? What happened?

And I would notice like weird things happening, Like sometimes my lights would be on, like get home from work, and I was like, oh, that's really weird because I definitely left the house during the day.

Leave that on.

Don't think anyway, it's not going to bother a big deal. And I just kind of lived with it for a little bit and then until like my boyfriend started sleeping over at the time and he would wake up when I would wake up with the whole across the floor and he was like, what is that. I'm like, I don't know. I think it's like a ghost child or something. Just go back to sleep whatever, it's not fawning.

I think it's just a ghost child. Just go back to bed. It's fine. Did you you didn't have any pets?

No, no, not at the time, like I did have. Well, actually, that's a really good it's a really good segway. So I did have a dog, but it wasn't living with me. So my dog, I had a golden traber growing up, and when I went to school, I couldn't bring him with me. So my mom said them for me, and she brought him to visit, and he, like he was a bit older at that point, like store, he was so cute.

But when they got.

To my apartment to day, he refused to go up there. He was like, I'm not about this left, I'm not going And I thought, maybe get that first it was because he was old, but no, he was actually scared to go up to my apartment. I had to actually physically pick him up and carry him into the apartment to get him in, and he was not having it.

Okay, was it a ghost child or what was it?

Well, I don't know. It was like and so things just got a little bit weird and weird, and I personally, like, I kind of blame my my boyfriend at the time because he kept antagonizing it. So every time he stayed over and every time he heard something or saw something, he he would just start yelling at the ghost and be like, get the f out of here and go away and all this other stuff, and then as he was doing that, like a ghost brow or something, it would end up getting worse.

And so yeah, I feel like that's usually what you do when the cameras are rolling and you want to try to get a ghost or a demon to scratch you.

Yeah, and I kind of wish it would have, like it would have probably actually given me some red flags about him at the time and probably would have kind of changed the next few months. But like, but yeah, no, unfortunately it didn't attack him. Instead, it just kind of made bigger kind of gestures and probably maybe not even It was like ap and my mom had already left, and then with my dog, and then my friends from

Nothing has moved, Kathy, How did that happen?

I don't know. It's like it's like it decided to make the sound of like clanking all my plates together. I don't know if it picks up my plate, I don't but it sounded like all the plates had dropped and smashed.

Okay, I'm extra freaked out because I didn't want to cut you off earlier, but I heard something fall in my shower like five minutes ago. Now I did just take a shower, so I don't know what it was. Maybe it was some shampoo or I don't know, but I'm really freaking out, Kathy.

I'm so sorry.

That's literally what I asked for. So was that the last thing that happened.

Yeah. So after that, I was like, I have to go. I can't. But like the problem is like with leases, like if you try and leave your leaf, like you get charged for it or like you sti't say no and you have to pay a big feat And so I had to make up this wild story because I couldn't like I had a wild story, but I couldn't go to the agent and be like this place was haunted and I have to go. So I ended up making out a story that I had to move across the world for work and it was out of my control.

I'm fine.

I totally get it, and like didn't charge me anything for it because she was just like, hey, you have to move out of the country, that's the thing. And I was kind of always wondering did I manifest that because less than three years later, my work actually did transfer me to Australia.

Oh my god, the ghost did that? Wait? So but you stayed in town, right, Well, I.

Ended No, I ended up moving in with my boyfriend that was yelling at the ghost to Wooster, which was like, also, probably not a good idea, Maybe I should Maybe the ghost was trying to warn me. I have no idea.

Now, yeah, it seems like the ghost didn't like your boyfriend. But I see. I would be just afraid that I would run into that landlord and they'd be like, uh, I thought you were supposed to be out of the country. I'd be looking for that fee.

I was always kind of a bit worried about that because she did also like Facebook friend me, and I was like, she's going to catch on at some point, but I'm not place.

Oh my god, you would have to photoshop pictures of you in Ja town or something. I bet you that the landlord had probably heard it before, like you know, like if the house is haunted, she's probably like, well, here we go again. What's the excuse going to be this time? Why someone wants to move out?

Could bee? But actually, so this is even this is also really strange. I was catching up with my mom about a month ago. We met we went back in the state, and I just randomly brought it up, being like, hey, if you ever had a paranormal kind of experience and stuff And she's like, no, I don't think so. And then I told her about this and I was like, do you remember that, Like did you get me weird

Mom, Oh my god. Did she say if the woman shuffled when she walked?

She just she was walking down the stairs at the time when she.

Saw That's who it was. That was That was the lady so insane? Oh my god. Would you have other stories?

I do?

I have some strange wines?

Oh I have.

Oh that? What's that one where you're sleeping and you can't.

Move sleep paralysis?

Sleep press? I know you hate this wrong. I'm so farry hate what sweet paralysis?

Oh no, I love hearing about it. I don't want to have it myself.

So I've never had sweet paralysis before or except this one time, and my previous apartment here in Sydney, and it freaked me out. I don't know because I was maybe listening about it or it was only like like a year ago. But I was sleeping in bed and

Maybe that will work.

And so I'm just like in my mind, going, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, is this gonna work.

In the cadence of a prayer?

And then I was like God, God, God, no, no, no, still and I still felt like I was being held down as struggling, and I was just like, I don't know any prayers, so I don't Mary, is there can we? And then it just like it felt like it was forever and I was so scared think of like prayers. I just kept yelling like God and Jesus in my head, thinking that myself, and then it privately stopped. But it was, Yeah, it was bizarre.

I mean, I know it's a it's a very controversial topic of is it paranormal is it not? But I think that it is. I think I don't see why being in your dream state does not open you up to the other side. I mean, you're not really like mentally in this dimension for a moment. Why wouldn't it open you up to to other entities?

I think so too. I mean that time, I'm not sure I do that times sticked out to me just because it was like the only time I can remember, And after it ended, I did hear like a like a release and that's when I can move again. So then I was like, something is not right here. But it would wouldn't you because if they say, like your relatives can visit you in your dreams, it's because you're more relaxed and open, So why wouldn't any other paranormal experience happened?

I would think absolutely, I agree, seems like that, Well, do you have others or should I let you go?

I just I don't really have like full stories like I have, like, like just I know one my mom was really hopeful for she she got disappointed at the end of the story about it was just like sometimes I could like smell my grandma, and my grandma passed away years and years and years ago, but I would just get this phantom smell and be like, Grandma, are

Would smell that, uh huh.

Yeah, So it was I thought it was her for the longest time, and then it would happen at my new place, and then I realized that my new place was actually because my trash bags were road scented and it was not my grandma. It's just the trash bags.

Are you saying that your grandma smelled like scented trash?

No, I swear it's not like her at my old place. But no, it's just the new place. It just had this. Yeah, I don't know.

Okay, there's a ghost in my house.

Aaron And Ohhio, what's going on?

Oh?

No much.

I'm really excited to be here.

I am excited too. You're in Ohio, Ohio.

Well, weird places, doing weird things. Even the weather, even the weather is weird.

Well, I feel like the weather's weird everywhere at this point, and it's only going to get weird, unfortunately. But I want to hear your stories. So where do we start?

So I want to start in Wooster, Ohio. It's a it's a small little town. It's well, it's growing now. But I went to college there back in the early two thousands. I went to the College of Worcester. And it's if you didn't know where you were, you would think that you were on you know, like Princeton's campus or something. It's like they plucked that up and just stuck it down in the middle of a cornfield in Ohio. Okay, so brick buildings just has like that really, you know, like stately feel to it.

So I.

Went to college there from two thousand and two to two thousand and six, and there were a couple of ghost encounters that I had. My freshman dorm room had two ghosts. That was a lot of fun.

Wait, two ghosts in the actual dorm room.

Yes, in my dorm room.

Oh my god. I mean unless you had a big, unusual dorm room, those are pretty small, so that's uh to have two ghosts in there.

Yes, No, it was your average sized, pretty small dorm room for me and my roommate. Yeah, there was one that would stand kind of like right at the door and you would just like be at your desk and you would just feel something looking at you. Not not you know, harmful or thing, just kind of like, oh, hey, I'm curious your hair, what you're doing homework?

Cool?

Oh yeah, you're on your bed trying to sleep, okay, cool, Just just stand there and you would just just feel a presence. And my roommate thought I was crazy, but there was definitely something there. And anytime it started to creep me out. I just tur around and be like, Okay, it's cool, but I would actually like to be alone now, and they and it would obligingly leave us. But yeah, the really creepy one was in our closet we were We were in one of the older dorms that hadn't

My back on the door when I'm in the.

Closet, that door is going to slam shut and I will not be able to get it open. Like just just this feeling of this door is going to shut and I'm going to be stuck in my room in the dark with this thing, and my roommate isn't coming back until tomorrow morning.

Yeah, oh my god.

Yeah, the one time in history that the door will stay shut.

Yes, yes, I have nothing about this door, you know, said that it would ever swing shut. It was always swinging open. But I just felt if I take one step in, this door is going to slam shut, and that's going to be it. So I just said, okay, you know what, that's it.

I'm done.

I walked out. I went and stayed somewhere else that night on campus, and the next day I walked you know, I went back to my room and didn't tell Like, my roommate thought it was crazy. She didn't think there was anything in the closet, but it was definitely there was definitely something there, but a couple of days later, I went back into the closet to guess some me and I felt that like malevolent thing, and I was like, you know what, I've had it. This is my room.

I actually have to live here.

Plus I'm eighteen, I'm a college freshman. I am indestructible. So I simply, uh, I put my back to the closet, so I was keeping my eye on the door. I walked all the way back into the closet, took something off the shelf, walked straight out, and I never felt that presence again.

Oh yeah, that's what it needed. It needed to be put in its place.

Yeah.

Yeah, so that was that was pretty crazy.

Do you know of any history or anything that would lend itself to there being you know, death, sir, I don't know anything like that in that room.

No, I don't. It wasn't the It was one of the older buildings on campus, but it was a newer addition to the building. When I say now, I mean like seventy years okay, yeah, this uh the Yeah, the the campus was founded in like the eighteen sixties, so it's old. And then our art building definitely had some ghosts on it and there were a lot of stories floating around about the ghosts that, you you know, maybe maybe.

They didn't happen.

But I took a ceramics class and it was down in what they said used to be the pool, so of course there, you know, people would talk about, oh, you know, people drowned in the pool. And then I had other people saying there was never for a pool here because they're building Stroe the gymnasium. And whenever I would be in there at night working on my projects by myself, I would just feel like there was just someone standing in one of the doorways watching me, and

Someone come down here?

They're like, no, there's no one else in the building.

Did you I gotta ask? Did you ever have like the pottery wheel moment? Is that what they call those things from the movie Ghost?

Yeah, the pottery wheel? No, I never had. I never had an instance like that. I've never actually seen anything. I've only ever felt, only ever felt things. Yeah, there

No running ghosts allowed. Yeah. Wait, you were telling me that you had cat ghosts.

Yeah, so I had two. I had two cats, the loves of my life. Unfortunately I lost both of them in the last two years. From from old age and illness. And I definitely, uh, I definitely see them around occasionally out of the corner of my eye. I have two, I have two kittens now, and it's it's definitely not them different coloring. I mean, I'll see something out of the corner of my eye. I'll turn around and both of them are in front of me, definitely not over

Oh, first of all, sorry, that is that is horrendous to have to go through that. Thank you, But it's so sweet. It's so sweet that there's still checking in. I love that. And so the other one too might be the one that jumps on the bat as well, or what do you think.

I don't know who will jump up on the bed. One of them was a big snuggler, the other one wasn't quite as much. But I will see both of them out of the corner of my eye. And they were both different colorings from the two cats that I have now, and they were different sizes. So it's yeah, I have definitely seen one out of the corner of my eye while I am looking directly at my two living cats.

Oh, I do love that, though, I mean, it's it's not. It's not really it's not like creepy ghosts or you know, anything like that. It's like, really, it's just sweet and it's I mean, animals are so they're especially you know, pets are there just to love. Like they're just they're they're not there to judge or whatever. They just they're just filled with love. And it's just like that love lingers. Yeah, what about your experiences with your grandmother?

So I was really close to my grandma, and unfortunately she died of cancer when I was eleven, and I wasn't able to say goodbye to her. She died in hospice, and a couple days after she died, I just woke up in the middle of the night and I just sat up and I just for some reason, I stuck out my hand like next to the bed and just kind of slowly moved it. And there was a patch of cold air about the width of a person like standing next to my bed. I just like felt my hand move through it.

And the air.

Condition wasn't on, the heat wasn't on, the you know, the windows were closed, there was no air moving and I was just like, oh, my grandma, and I just turned over and went back to sleep. And from then on, I will just occasionally feel like you need to do something or you need to not do something, and it will be like it's either intuition or it was just

Go to bed.

And I would say, okay, Grandma, let me just finish this chapter. The you know, the coolness would go away. And and if I actually, you know, finished the chapter and closed the book, that would be the end of it. But if I didn't and I kept reading, that coolness would come back until I actually closed the book and went to sleep.

Oh my god. I've talked about this too, Like I think that I have Grandma Guardian Angels. I don't know what you want to say, but I feel that kind of presence as well. And I've had certain situations that I think could have been really could have been the end of me, and then something intervenes and I'm like, I think it was my Grandma's I don't know, yeah, I know, I.

Don't know if it's you know, if it's a spirit guy Guardian Angel or you know, Grandma watching out for me. But you know, it definitely it definitely feels like, you know, my grandma, even though she.

Yeah, I mean, that's it's just like pets. It's it's sweet that, like, you know, we all play different roles in our different relationships, and like I've felt that my grandmother's spirit was still a grandma, like when she passed, she would still intervene in ways that were grandmotherly and it's just kind of I don't know, it's comforting.

I think, yeah, it really is. It. It gave me a lot of comfort to think that, you know, she was just kind of there watching over me, because yeah, I'm.

Mister hello Elisa, Ohio. How's it going, Hi?

Ros I'm good.

How are you so good? You're telling me you have a ton of stories. Where do we start?

Well?

I think the best one to start is the one that I sent over my email, which is when I moved to California. I had a crazy experience in my new apartment there, which is funny because you live Riverside, Okay, so like kind of near La, like an hour southeast.

Yeah, but there's great antique stores there.

Oh I bet. I just didn't have a car, so I didn't get to go around that much. But I just went there for a job. But yeah, I moved into this apartment there and it was like the job was through like a program, right, So I moved into a student dorm, so it was like furnished, but it it was like sterile, you know what I mean, Like nobody was living there. There was nothing like left behind.

So wait, wait, but why do you think that there was blood on your face? Did you did you like touch your face and it was on your hands or what do you mean?

Yeah, it was just like that consistency, you know what I mean, Like it's like kind of sticky and like it was just I don't know, like it just felt like there was blood in my face, like I had a nosebleed or something. I don't know, I just I just knew, I guess.

And then.

The next day I was talking to my roommates about it, and I was like doing a deep dive because I was like, this is weird, right, So I did some research and I found that you know, like bad energies and whatnot can attach themselves to objects. And I was like, that's but there's no way, like there's stuff in this apartment, but it's like sterile, like it is like student dorm cut and paste furniture, right, But I just give it

Ever again, what was this was the box for?

I don't know, maybe they like trapped something in it and it did like me, I don't know, it was.

So weird, weird. Yeah, okay, so then it all stopped after that.

Yeah, like like someone snapped and it went away and I mean, like, I have dreams pretty regularly, but these were like like dreams that were so horrible. I've never had anything like them, like beyond nightmare. It was really strange, and I thought maybe for a second it was like, I don't know, like stress dreams or something. But I was like, I have no reason to be stressed, Like I like my roommates and moving to California. Who can complain about that?

You know?

So it's definitely the box.

You grew up in a house that has a graveyard in the.

Backyard, Yeah, I did so.

So did that lead to ghosts walking around or what?

Oh? Yeah, absolutely? So the house that I grew up in, it was like like a newer development, but it was like you know how in the Midwest there will be like newer developments, but like on farmland, so you'll just like walk around and it's like, oh, that's like someone's like family plot of a cemetery or whatever. It was kind of like that, right, Yeah, They're just like this will be a great place for you to raise your kids.

Uh huh.

But no, it was like a full old cemetery, but it was like it was like an eighteen hundred cemetery but there were probably like fifty graves in it, and it's still being used today, like they're still putting people there or whatever. But it was like literally my backyard, like I could look out of the window and like see it. So I guess the first thing that happened

Oh yeah, okay, so you.

Know they're a little like simple like the face. I don't know what it's called, but it's like the guy with the really spiky hair.

I personally do not know what that is, but I know that I know of that band.

Well, okay, it's has some like silly name, like I don't know, but there was something standing over me that looked exactly like that. Like basically for people who don't have a visual it was like like a skeleton kind of head, like with big eye holes and you could see through them, and then like it looked like it had crazy spiky hair, like it had been like electrocuted or something.

WHOA, what do you think that was?

I maybe like an old electric worker who was buried behind my house.

I don't know electric.

He's like, wow, the wiry in this house is crazy. But yeah, it was so distinct and like there's no way that could have been a shadow, right because it was like perfect circles for the eyes, hair stand straight up. And I just like stared at it for thirty minutes. I was like, all right, what do I do in this situation? And I just pulled down my covers and right away and nothing there.

WHOA, So do you how do you feel about cemeteries being haunted? Because that's always like a topic of conversation that I have with people. People you know, assume that they would be haunted. But a lot of times I'm like, well, why would a ghost be there? Right, so you think that they are, well, I mean, of course they could be.

Yeah, I mean I feel like if it is the last place like you're put on this earth, like that's kind of your home base. So maybe that's like where they like come from. Maybe. But I agree with you, like every time you said that on this podcast, like why would you want to stay around the cemetery, I'd be like in the JACUZI at like a Hilton.

I'd well, by the time you get to the cemetery, you're already dead. You've probably been dead for a couple of days.

True. True, I don't even think about that. But maybe you're like not coming to terms with the fact that like you don't really need your body anymore. So maybe it like takes a couple of days or something. I don't know.

Okay, yeah, it's like you don't you don't want to move out quite yet, right, it's just like taking time. Yeah yeah, yeah, or like.

Maybe it's you know, it's like all for the bit, like you're a ghost, why not stay in a cemetery like it's already spooky. You've already got half the work done for you.

Right well, okay, oh my god, you want to listen to an EVP, I would love to. Okay, it's time for EVP or ev plice. Okay, this one is actually there's a cemetery related thing and that's why I was thinking this would be perfect. Okay, okay. This is posted on YouTube by somebody named Becky Vickers, and it is at Channing Park, which is an Elgin, Illinois not too far from you now west. Okay, so Channing Elementary School.

Yeah, sounds like a kid or something. It sounds like she's saying, where are you going?

Where are you going?

Yeah?

I hear that.

Let me give you some options. Is it a I'm a little ghost. B I wouldn't do that. Oh that's creepy. Yeah, see, I want to go or d Bowie's the best? Maybe it was a David Bowie fan.

I wanted to be that.

But I'm going to go amazing, I'm.

Going to go with what was the third one? Like I wouldn't go or something?

I want to go?

Yeah, I'm going to go with that one because I think that's closest to what I heard.

Okay, let me play it again. That is what this ghost says. According to Becky Vickers.

I want to go, Oh my gosh, two people hear it.

It's gotta be true, No, I really did think. Okay, here's like a little inside secret number number D, which I know what I just said. Number D is always what I think it is, absolutely says or it's what I hear, which is uh. I when I originally heard it, I thought it said Bowie's the best, but that would make no sense. Thank you so much to a Tessa, Kathy, Aaron Annalise. If you want to hear a little bit more,