Listener Phone Call Extravaganza Part XIII!

What's that at the bed. It's spooky. I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way.

Wait a minute, I said.

Hiron's dress. Hey boo, it's me Roz. Oh. I've had a great week. It's been a good one. The election is over some people. I think I believe that ghosts have voted in the election. From beyond the grave. People were dancing in the streets here in Los Angeles and now I'm fully in the holiday spirit, even though it's it's like maybe one or two weeks too early to be full on Christmasy, but I don't care. I'm going for it. It's twenty twenty. There's no rules anymore. But

I am in southern California in the high desert.

Oh my god, I love Southern California in the high desert. Have you ever seen a UFO?

I feel like, Oh my goodness, I swear I see UFOs all the time.

I actually had dreams. I had a dream about a.

UFO the other night, and then I woke up the next morning and there was all the strange lights, strange lights over Maui, and it was exactly what I saw in my dream.

So, but have you you've actually seen, like in person, a UFO.

I've definitely seen things that are unexplained that I couldn't quite figure out.

What they were. Where I live is really dark, so it's easy to.

See a lot of stuff at the night sky, and there's some strange stuff out there.

Oh my god, I'm obsessed. Okay, but also, you wrote the Facebook about living in a haunted house. I read it, and then things have gotten worse. Can we hear the whole story from the beginning from you rather than okay?

So, okay, I need to take a deep breath. So, yeah, this is the house that I grew up in. I'm actually sitting in it right now. And so I moved in here when I was ten, and I ever since I was a child kind of felt like I could, you know, like I was just connected into a part of the world that maybe my brother and my sister weren't. And so we moved into this house and it just felt really off. And so as a kid, I heard

But it happened enough.

To where it was like a thing where like we would just randomly come home and the door would be wide open, like the front door or the back door.

It's just weird.

Yes, And so now I live in this house now, So I moved out, didn't live there for a while. I've been living back in this house for the last year, so it's my second fall here. And when we moved in, I like told my husband, I was like, oh, like this this house is super haunted. It feels really creepy. And we move in and it didn't really feel like that anymore, kind of felt fresh and new, and I was like, oh, like maybe maybe what was ever what was here is going to be gone, and you know,

Six year old has always.

She's a sleep walker, so she walks at night, which is really creepy in and of itself. Yeah, but then our too, our two year old moved We moved in here, and he just started talking about monsters, which is not something that our six year old talks about, and so we don't really know where he picked up that word from. He just started getting scared. Like he'd be in the room by himself and he would go, oh, a scary monster, A scary monster, and he'd just be always pointing in the same spot.

It's in my bedroom, of course.

And so didn't really think anything of it. We're like, oh, you know, maybe he's just heard the word and is a little scared. But then he started getting really scared, and he would like wake up in the middle of the night and just like be petrified, just completely screaming, inconsolable, screaming about a monster.

He's scared, and he wouldn't be fine until we left the room.

And so I started thinking, you know, maybe something is a little off here.

And all the while this.

Is happening, my husband has not informed me that he's been seeing weird things around the house. What So the first thing he said, you know, the other night we were so we were laying in bed.

It's about around eleven.

I don't remember the exact time, but my husband said, do you remember that other night when you looked at me and you were like.

What's going on? So my husband, we were laying in bed.

Here.

Let me back up.

My husband is laying in bed and he gets this look on his face and I can tell that he's heard something, and I'm like, what's going on? And he says, oh, nothing, it's fine. But then he exits the room, goes down the hallway, comes back and is just silent.

And I was like, is everything okay? Are the kids okay?

And he's like, yeah, yeah, it's fine. I went okay, I felt a little weird. I was like, okay, whatever. And then and then our son keeps talking about this monster, keeps talking about this monster, and I'm like, I feel like something's not right here. And my husband goes, you know, I didn't tell you about this, but the other day when you looked at me and asked if something was wrong.

Child ran and disappeared.

What I was like a little blonde kid. So both of our kids are blonde because I was like a little blonde kid that ran.

Across our hallway. We live in a.

Nine hundred square foot house. They could not have gone far. It's not a big house. And so that's really weird. Now, mind you, two weeks before this, we have an alarm system, and around the same time of night that the sighting of the child happened, our alarm went off and my husband and I we wake up. We're screaming to get the bat. We're you know, in attack mode. And our back door is wide open, but no one's there, and

And so and that's the same door that when you were a kid used to be open, right.

Yes, And it's not a door that you can easily open, like, it's not a door like it's hard for me and my husband to open it. So it would have been very difficult for our six year old daughter to open it, especially if she was sleepwalking and she was on the opposite side of the room and so, and she was like super dazed and they're like, oh, did.

You open it? And she's like, oh, I don't.

I don't think so, and she like, so, we don't know about that. But then so that happened, and all that's happening around the same time of night. So then there's another thing with my husband. He wanted to be here, but he's not here. He was washing his face in the bathroom sink, and it's the same bathroom that I grew up in. This bathroom is just it's one of those bathrooms where you go in it and it just doesn't feel right, very heavy energy. You kind of get

No, that's like the biggest that's like such a horror movie thing. And I feel like I've never once in my life washed my face in the bathroom without looking back into the mirror, expecting to see something like that and now it's air that really happens in real life.

He was like, all right, like you know, let me check out like all the different angles and the lining and you know.

What could what could have been? And he said he could not recreate what he had seen.

And he said it like looked like like a full face, like he could see the full face in the mirror, and it said didn't.

Look like his face.

And so that's just like totally bizarre. So so there's that, and then there's one more thing. So when I was a child living in this house, I had a room that one of the walls touches the hallway, and the hallway is not good, like there's something in the hallway.

My husband and I.

We were like, all right, let's figure out, like where do you feel the energy? Where do you feel the negative energy in the hallway? And so we we share it, and of course we feel it in the same spot. There's like we can feel this energy that's like moving at the end of the hallway, and then we feel an energy that's stuck in the back left corner and it's like back up against the garage. The garage is really creepy. Like not a good energy, like just really dark and heavy. And when I was a kid, I

We all did as kids.

Me and my brother and my sister still have very vivid nightmares. My brother had probably the worst of them, and when he lived in this house, he was at his lowest, and my sister, my brother, and I think that there is something that got trapped in that room, like there's an energy that got trapped in that room that kind of latched on to my brother because it was just it was just so heavy, like there's just

And now we've moved the kids back in there and they sleep a lot better.

But my son now is saying that there's a monster in the corner by the window. And so there's the monsters only ever in there in one spot, and there's nothing in that corner that.

Looks like anything.

It's just his dresser. And so still ongoing. You know, last night, I was putting my son to bed and he goes, Mommy, A scary monster, A scary monster, and so we go, we say, go away, scary monster, and in his little childer.

Voice, he goes. He says, go way, scary monster. And then we go to sleep.

My god, Now did your daughter sleepwalk before you guys moved in.

Yes, she's always.

I mean she when she was a like when she started crawling, she would crawl in her sleep.

So, like I got to ask some of the Haunted House movie questions. First of all, have you done any research or figured out what could have happened in the house?

I haven't.

We we were the second owners of the house. The people before us it was a family, and my dad said that the dad worked for some production company.

But other than that, that's all we knew.

Okay, And so are you thinking now that you've done some saging, you've done the crystals, are you thinking you might try anything else? Or how are you feeling about the current situation.

We feel like there besides that like creepy energy, oh my gosh.

Yeah, okay, So besides the.

Creepy energy in the hallway, everything else just feels kind of playful. So I don't think that it's like a situation we need to really deal with right now, because like we don't feel scared.

Okay, that's good, So that's good.

But I did just remember our neighbor was actually like had actually murdered.

A few people, and we go in detail.

That's but it wasn't in our house, and it's not on the it's on the side of the house where we're like the like the moving energy is. So it's not on the side of the house where the energy that feels like it's stuck.

So wait, e, when did your neighbor murder people?

Apparently while I was living here.

My mom's actually my mom's a lawyer, and she came across the case and she texted me and she goes, Lauren, you made need to tell your dad because they're divorced, Because Lauren, you made me tell your dad that your neighbor just got arrested for killing a few people.

So but he killed people in the house.

No, I don't believe or no, he killed people so terrible, like outside of the house. So it wasn't something that happened next to us. But that person lived next to me, and it was somebody like the the what's it called.

They had kids, and I would go over to their house and hang out with them.

But I did.

I didn't know anything was going on.

So, oh my god, well, please keep me updated if anything else is going on over there. I'm glad to hear that you're not scared.

Yeah, not too scared.

Because I'm over here terrified. But okay, if you could live like that, I just don't want to wash my face and look at the mirror and see a face there mine.

Yeah, we do not wash our faces in the scenk anymore.

It's just not something we do.

There's a ghost in my house. Hello, we have got the back by popular demand, Joey from Quebec. How are you?

I am great.

It's five thirty here in Quebec and it's pitch black, so welcome the winter everybody.

Oh my god, well, I was reading you sent me an email with more stories and just like our listeners, the paranormal loves you. So what is going on? First of all, why does the paranormal love you so much?

Honestly?

From when I was, I mean as young as I can remember, my family just always called me an old soul, like I was just so in tune with everything, and I had tons of psychic like I just did weird, weird shit that my parents would be like, oh, yeah, we got to watch him, like just things like that.

And I don't know, I never.

Not believed in spirits because most of my family.

Did, so I don't know. When you're not told no, you're not really so skeptical.

I guess yeah, I guess, so you can kind of have more freedom to just embrace it.

Yeah.

Are you do you think that you're like a psychic psychic?

I honestly, well, I wouldn't say psychic because that like, however, like I definitely consider myself as sensitive and I definitely feel things, and I'm usually my intuition is like on fleak, like it's pretty good.

Well, you sent me like a bunch of stories. I'm down to hear any and all of them. So let them rip. Which one would you like to tell?

How about we visit well, you know what, since everyone can know how weird I am, we'll talk about the Babylon story. So basically, this is a spiritual well it is, it's about past lives basically. So picture it Staten Island. I'm three years old. I'm playing like. My mom is in the kitchen right next to my playroom, and I, as she had noticed, built this huge thing that she could not figure out how the hell I had done this so perfectly when I'm three.

So she was like just weirded out by that.

And then she kept hearing me talking and speaking to maybe someone something and imagine her friend whatever. And then she heard distinctly the word Babylon. Now I'm three, how do you There's no way I could.

Have known that word.

So she comes over and she's like, Joey, who taught you that word Babylon? And I was like, what are you talking about, mom? And she's like, Babylon? Who taught you that word? And I was like, we used to live there, remember, we had all the animals.

And my mom told me like she was really confused, and she was. She pressed me.

She was like, Joey, what do you mean we lived in Babylon? And I was like, when I was your son before? Don't you remember?

And I'm like.

Three, and I'm getting fit, like agitated, like annoyed that she doesn't remember, and she didn't press that matter.

However, when I.

Was in my late teens, my mom was like, do you know the crazy shit you say as a kid? I was like, no, tell me. She was like, used to tell me that you were my son before, that my sister was my sister before, and that when I was like three to like five, I would talk about how I had died many times before and I was like, okay, well that's reincarnation, and she's like, I know, but I'm telling you now. And usually back then, like I was born in eighty seven, so like, obviously this is like

My five year old is talking about their past lives.

So like if my mom had that, maybe it would have not made her think I was so weird. But back in nineteen ninety that she was like, oh, okay, we're gonna put this in our pocket and I'll talk about it.

Well yeah, And I mean if you say that you were alive in Babylon, that's like that when people say, oh that you're an old soul, Like that's an old soul, right, that means you've been around for a minute.

Girl.

I mean, well, but there's also maybe the timeline wouldn't add up. But also I don't know if you ever watched the TV show Queer as Folk, but the gay bar in that show was called Babylon.

But I think I had my career awakening during that show because my parents used to watch it. And then when I would see the bathhouse, I was like, oh, I'm relating to this on a level, I'm relating to this.

So you also were telling me about you had like a UFO or okay, an alien.

Exact this because ghosts don't scare me, honestly, like, I'm not scared by that, but this stuff that was wild because I had so there were so many people with me, and we were all like, what.

Okay, so let's set the sea.

I am like in my early twenties and I'm visiting from New York and all my friends from Florida.

They come over to my house and we go to my bedroom and.

We go on my balcony and I have a nice patio and we're all chilling and it's like six of us plus my sister, and we're all chilling and talking and then like we all like stopped talking because the patio furniture started like vibrating, and so.

We're like, what the hell is?

So it's probably a plane, right, Well, it's not a plane. We look just above, like just above us, not like in this like totally up in the sky.

There's a swarm of what we thought were bees or wasp because of the sound. It was like a like a something like that. However, this was not that.

They were about the size of a marble and they were jet black like black like it almost looked.

Like animation, Like it was so.

Not like it looked like it just didn't belong like in our sky.

Right.

So we're all just like mesmerized by this, and then we're starting to panic, and then it gets eye level with us, like not like not looking at us.

It didn't have eyes or anything like that, but.

Like it was in front of our eyes, like on our eye level, like we're all sitting around a table, and it just like kind of in my opinion, it didn't have eyes, but like it like saw us, like acknowledged us. And then one by one, me and my friend started running back into my bedroom and jumped on my bed and we're for like a good twenty minutes we were like what the f was that?

And honestly, like that was not ghosts.

I just feel like that was a sort of extraterrestrial experience, and that was wild.

But you say that they were they the size of a marble when they were eye level.

Absolutely, they were the same size the whole time, like a large marble.

It was.

The wildest thing of everything.

You don't think it was like a drone or anything like that.

No, I don't know if did we have drones in like two thousand and ten. I'm sure we did. I don't know about technology. I'm not good with it. But it was so beyond anything any of us had ever seen that we were And most of my friends then were not spiritual or believers or anything, so like it really gave them pause.

They were like, what the f was at?

Yeah? Interesting?

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know much about that kind of stuff, but I love hearing it me too. Okay, tell me another one. What about publics? Publics ps? Publics? So that's a big grocery chain in Florida. And when I was a kid, I would vacation in Florida. And when I was learning how to read, I used to say I used to call it pubics. For some reason, I just couldn't The l just blurred into the eye for me, and I would say, let's.

Go to pubics. I'm pretty sure something tell me about pubic jokes, say pubic.

So this is the same publics in Sunrise, Florida that I had my witch angel experience, and this is such.

As So anybody that doesn't know what I'm we're talking about, go listen to the last Listener episode that Joey was on, which was last month, and you encountered this angel, which magical woman at the publics.

Yeah, so this is I guess several several months later. And I didn't know at the time because I'm a kid. My parents are going through a lot of financial difficulties, but I didn't realize that because we were happy. But we go into the publics in Sunrise and I'm going through the aisles and I noticed this guy in a public's uniform with the apron and everything, and he's smiling at me when we walked in, and I smiled back.

Pointing and I was like, okay, what is he putting at?

So I look and he's pointing at this specific box of Captain Crunch.

That's specific my favorite. I know, I love Capty Crunch. I'll never forget it.

So he's pointing at the cereal and then when he sees that I know what he's pointing at.

He's like he was making a motion to like move the box.

So I moved the box and there's this large white envelope there. And then as I am about to take the envelope, he points at me again, and he points at the envelope and he points at my mother and he.

Does it twice. So I was like, okay, okay, I'm going to do that.

So I take the envelope and I ran to my mother with the grocery cart, and I was like, mom, here, that man told me to give it to you. And she opens the envelope and there's three thousand dollars in it.

She could not.

Believe it, and she well, she told me when I was older, like she was so afraid to take it. She like didn't understand it. But she saw the public's man like he was there.

And then the man that was pointing she saw him too.

Oh yeah, she saw him too.

And then he went away and we did our shopping and we were able to get more soft obviously, and he bagged our groceries like he bagged our groceries like we were. He the woman scanning our groceries wasn't really making eye contact with him or speaking to him, but I think I was. I don't remember anything I said. My mom was just shaking and she just really wanted to leave, but like, the man kept smiling and talking

That description has ever worked there, and we were just.

They have a uniform on or anything.

He had the.

Whole uniform on, the whole apron and everything. So m but what I remember specifically was the woman that was scanning the groceries and then it rolls down and then the guy bags it. She was not looking at him, not acknowledging him, and when I was speaking to him, it was as if she did.

Not see him.

And my mom was just so freaked out, like she was just like, whoa, this really happened. We always tell this story to all our friend and family like it really happened. But then again, my family really believes in angels and things like that, so it wasn't a shock to us, but it was definitely a miracle.

It was. It was a wonderful story.

Wow, that is so cool. Okay, let's do one more. Okay, let's do when you were doing children's theater.

Oh my god, Okay, so this was pretty cool.

I was in a touring children's theater in Philly, but like, we go all over the place, and this time we were in Texas and we did the entire place of Texas.

I don't remember where. I have a feeling.

It was something called Nagado Chase, but I'm not a hard I'm sure, but I remember that name. Being crazy, I was like, this is a real place. So we go into this beautiful theater.

It's so beautiful.

It's like it had like sort of a nautical theme and it was all white but the chairs were plush red. It looked stunning. But in children's theater, like unless there's a crew at the theater, you are loading that scenery and the costumes and everything with your cast, like you don't have someone doing that.

So we're doing that.

And the moment I stepped and walked onto the stage, I was like, ooh, what's that?

Like? It just felt heavy.

The way I can describe it to you is as if someone took their their their their palm and pressed it onto your chest. Like it felt like, oh, there's what's that like? It was heavy and really thick, and I said it out loud.

I was like, ooh, the energy is something. Do you feel that?

And my cast was like, oh stop it, uh stop, stop it.

And I was like okay.

But like the crew, because there was a crew at this theater, it was very rare, but it does happen. And they were like, oh yeah, this place is super haunted, and they started going off into how hard it was, and my cast was super like not into that. So I was like, okay, well I listened to everything, and I was like, okay, cool and down. So basically beloaded everything and I'm still feeling this energy and my cast just could not be bothered.

They were not feeling anything. And I guess you know, when you're not open to it, you're not open to it. Whatever. So we go downstairs into this basement and.

It's huge, so like all of us were able to get our own dressing room, which is kick ass. So I got to do my makeup and my vocal warmups by myself. But in this dressing room, I said desk in the email, but I guess I forgot the word vanity.

So I'm at this vanity and it has the.

Mirror with all the light bulbs, you know, a regular dressing room, but it has two chairs, and I'm sitting in one chair that I'm doing my makeup and doing my vocal warm ups.

But there's also a chair like two inches from me, and I put my backpack.

On it, so like I'm grabbing my stuff as I go along, and I'm doing my stuff. So I finished my makeup, and I finished my vocal warm ups and now I'm piecing the room, starting to sing the songs to get prepared. And then that energy comes back in full force, and I.

Was like ooh.

And then it was like a split second after I felt it, the presence whatever in the room, it was like there was a loud boom and I was like what. And my backpack on the second chair goes flying and I'm not kidding, flying to the end of the room, hits the door and rolls down. So I'm just staring at it for a few minutes. I'm not questioning. I'm just like WHOA. So I walk and I pick up the backpack and I didn't I didn't know why I instinctively did this, but whatever I did it, it happened.

That I was sitting in to.

Do my makeup and left the second chair occupied.

But so I walk.

Away after I put the backpack on the chair that I sat in and I left the other chair, but that other chair slowly, like literally slowly pushes itself in, like into the vanity, and now I'm like.

Shit, And.

I just looked at it and I was like, I hope you don't mind me, like out loud, I hope you don't mind.

Me warm up.

But then the energy in the room after that moment lightened. It was still there, but I felt like the presence was just like I want to be acknowledged and I don't like that you used my chair.

And then after I apologized, it was like chill. But that energy was.

Was unmistake unmistakable. It was definitely in the room.

Wow, well, Joey, it's been a pleasure. You have a million of them. I feel like you literally have so many good stores, and they're good stories, Joe.

Besides all of these, like only two other things happened besides the the doppelganger, which I didn't really know that you called a doppelganger. I thought it was just a mimic. But yeah, I really enjoyed these experiences. I'm glad that they've happened to me. And for those of you who are not believers, once you have one experience, it'll change your whole perspective.

Yeah, I believe that as well.

And I love you Ross. Thank you so much.

Hello Annie, where are you?

Hello? I am in Tucson.

Watch Out, Tucson, Here we come. Do you know that movie Remy Michelle? Yes, Tucson. Yes, that's where they went to high school. They live out here, they lived in Venice, California, and then they go in the car. It's a great movie. People should check it out. Well, thank you for being.

Thank you for having me. We also had a Revenge of the Nerds and Can't and another one Can't by any Love.

Are you from Tucson?

No, I'm from Iowa.

Okay. Well, I saw that you had a lot of different kinds of stories to talk about, So where should we start?

So I feel like everything kind of always comes back around to my mother, who had passed away. October eighteenth was the four year anniversary of her passing and she always kind of seems a little bit stronger around that time. Her birthday is on November sixth. She always had like the best ghost stories when I was younger. She grew up in, you know, an old farm house in Iowa, so she she always had some really interesting and terrifying stories. Like I would get these bumps just listening to her

And you could light fires by snapping. That's fabulous.

Apparently in a past life that's that was something I could do. But yeah, my mom she was just kind of one of those like larger than life. Uh, you know, beautiful souls, super fun, very charismatic. People were drawn to her, uh, just very very deeply and her ana Sarah Sarah Jane. So I'm trying to keep everything in line. So recently, my niece was working as a waitress and this lady at her table asked her like, hey, can I show

What kind of stuff has happened at that house?

So let's see. The weekend she passed away, I had, you know, a lot of a lot of my girlfriends came in from out of town to support me. And one girl was getting a little out of control, a little drunk, and it was about one already in the morning, two in the morning, and the coffee grinder just started going very loudly, And it was at a point where I think, like everyone has kind of had it with this girl and was like, Okay, this weekend is about you.

Wait, how did that happen?

I don't know. She okay, I will tell you this. She was a huge flirt. Young men loved her. Every all my guy friends, everyone loved my mom. Everyone was like, your mom is you know? I'm your mom's favorite. Everyone was always like buying for her attention because she was just just so fun, and so I thought it to me it was kind of my mom saying like, hey,

Yeah.

My mom a notorious a notorious flirt. And then my aunt. So my mom divorced my dad when I was five and one of her best friends took us in, so she's basically like a second mom to us my whole life. And she still lives in this house that my mom passed away in, so she's constantly having experiences her. My other aunt have like heard my mom speaking to them like different things. My mom is an avid gardener, so her her gardening hats will be moved in different places.

Why do you say that, U so you was.

Here visiting earlier this year, before the whole lockdown had happened. She would tell me some stories that just sounded a little bit more malicious, and it made me kind of think back to when we were in junior high. My girlfriends and I would play with the Ouigi board, and this one girlfriend, she was always a little bit I don't see, she just had a really hard childhood, so she was a little bit darker and I didn't fully

Yes?

And we went back in. We turned all the candles back on, tried to recreate it, and we couldn't. There

So mister X could be there still.

I get so and my girls. The girl's friend who it was, I actually reached out to her on face book this week and I said, Hey, have you had any experiences lately, like does this thing still follow you? And she said she hadn't had any in a while, but she told me not to be worried that it was. It didn't give me any more like reassurance or really go into it. I think it's probably a part of her life she doesn't really want to talk about anymore, and understandably.

So, yeah, what was the story you were telling me about living in Okinawa?

Okay? So Okinawa? I was stationed in there from nineteen ninety eight to two thousand and five, and he ever want some like really cool ghost stories, just like Google that they have this haunted hotel that they started buildings, but people kept dying and apparently it was on you know, hollowed grounds or where people had been buried, so they

Everywhere dying like people were dying as they were making it building it.

Yeah, so they had to stop, they had to stop construction on it. So I had gone through it once and my girlfriend and I took pictures outside we walked through. It's almost like this, I mean, it's this big, grand hotel and there's these giant rooms and you can go all the way to the top and like look out and see the whole island. And we realized when we got done, like after the whole day was over, we

I do too, I always have. It's so funny because I constantly found myself like I kept that open, right. I think I'm just looking for my experience.

But oh my god, rab I had this stuff listening to your show in my house because there is a little.

Girl that I get it. There's a logo that died in your house.

Yes, yes, when I the first time I came to the house before I bought it, that previous owners still lived here, so all of their stuff was here, and there was there was a bench out in the back yard that said, you know, to our our loving daughter sister. It was like a memorial bench, and it was like a girl that had died to say about eleven years old. And I wasn't really sure what happened, but there was

That's so interesting. How sometimes it's just like such a such a slight presence, you know, doesn't sound it doesn't seem like it's like super haunted or anything. But yeah, how interesting. I've been ghosted too. Hello Dusty, Hello, Ras, where are you? Dusty?

I am, Oh, you meet in my closet, ironically, but I am calling you from Fateville, Arkansas.

Oh my god. Cool, You're like what maybe the first Arkansas? I mean I've talked to very few people from Haunted Arkansas.

Well, it has its history.

So what's going on with you? You grew up in a haunted house?

I did, And yes, I grew up in Fort Smith, Arkansas, which was originally Hell on the Border. But that's it was originally what it was called Hell on the Border. It was the gateway to the West. But I didn't grow up in a house that old. This strange thing was is right out the gate. I'll just tell you mine. And then I, as an adult, I found out a little bit of what was going on. So when I was about ten years old, my parents for the first

You know.

The joke is I was the remote control for my parents. So I was watching, you know, late night reruns of Cheers, and I fell asleep on this sofa and I woke up and the lights were sall still on because I dozed off, but the TV had been turned off, so I thought my parents came home and I just didn't hear them or something. So I just got up and I turned the TV back on because I still wasn't

I found out.

Later in life of why, you know, I had other things like when I was an adult, I saw paranormal activity and I had PTSD from watching that. Because suddenly everything in my childhood came to realization.

I grew up.

Because I just hit it away, because my mom believed ghosts are all demons, and my dad believed that we can't explain, you know, what's going on. Maybe it's a time lapse in the dimensions or whatever, and I don't have my own I love listening to your show because it expands my brain on all the possible theories that

Yeah, oh way, So as if they're like standing on your bed or what do you mean, like, what would you think.

It could have been standing?

It could have been like you know, like if your parent sits down the side of the bed and leans one arm over on the other side of your feet.

It could have been something like that.

I also had another incident where I was asleep in the living room and I had sleep paralysis. But it wasn't like a moment. It was a long time, like on the Haunting of Hill House. Like I was lying there staring at the ceiling and felt like I was being choked so badly that I had When I could finally move, I went and woke up my mom and told her I was I mean. She could hear I wasn't breathing, and she had asthma, so she let me

Now, when you say you felt like you're being choked, could you feel like did it feel like a human person's hands basically or yeah?

Like restricted? Yeah, like hands constricting my throat.

Oh that's so scary.

And I just yeah, And I felt that weird presence. So I found out from my mom years later that one one of my great grandmothers had passed away in the home when I was a child, So some of the spookiness I kind of gave myself a theory of maybe Grandma was turning the TV off so I could sleep. But but as far as like the choking, there was also a woman that lived in the house before that cut down like every tree in the yard if a

Had something like that.

Oh my god.

But another one that you'll appreciate this story.

My mother had an experience too, and in the same house before I was born, and it was shortly after her mother had passed away and she had trouble sleeping.

I asked her a lot of questions recently to.

Get more details so I could tell you her story because she doesn't like talking about it, because I told you.

She has a different theory on these things. But we have.

It was very small home, so we had the stair. The wall that divided the stairs from the front door for privacy was just wrapped in those glass tile mirrors, so we called it the wall mirrors, and so she was walking. She got up to get a drink of water, and she said she already felt something weird was going on.

She said she.

Looked at that reflection and she said to this spirit, you're not my mother, and then it disappeared and then she was able to move.

So yeah, and that's you know, so she believes that, you know, it was a demon or raping impersonating. Okay, yeah, so you believe that it was possibly your great grandmother was in the house and then some kind of of demon or whatever dark dark force.

Yeah, there could have been something that tried to take opportunity that didn't care for me as much. And maybe, you know, like I said, maybe it was a comforting thing of like the television. You know, maybe maybe in the bedroom of what was sitting on the bed was just you know, watching a grandchild sleep.

But I think about the choking.

The choking one is the one that I can't figure out. That that one, that one freaked me.

Out a lot.

Yeah, but it all freaked me out for years until I found out about, you know, the passing with Gramma in the house, and I thought maybe that was her lingering and kind of it made me feel a little better. But I'd always been like, I refuse to talk about what happened in the house.

In the house, Oh.

Yeah, well I get that. I I feel like it could hear me, who's listening.

Yeah, I don't want it to know, so we never talk about it in the house anyway. Yeah, I have other little ones. I could go on of other short stories or if that's good for you, or.

No, give me a short one, give me, yeah, give it to me. I got a couple of minutes.

Okay, So I will tell you because I listened if you and the thing I think the creepiest for you would be my sister would kill me if I tell you this.

But I'm going to my niece who's now an adult with her own child. When she was a little girl, she was sensitive and could see things. She had the six sense.

And it freaked my sister out and she didn't like encourage it because it scared her and she didn't want her daughter to be scared. So the two incidents I remember my sister telling me my daughter saw someone was one at a friend's townhouse. You know, they have those

In last night? And he said, honey, nobody came in the room last night. It's just us. We're just trying. What are you talking about?

She described a man in a suit and very old, like, you know, my sister asked the questions of you know, like an old hat, like a nineteen thirties madmen kind of thing. And he walked into the hotel room and looked over them while they were sleeping, and then just kind of dissipated out through the wall.

Oh my god, does she still have these experiences or was it just as a kid?

I haven't asked her recently, because, like I said, her mother would kill me. But it was as a kid, because her mother didn't want, you know, to scare her of like, well, honey, you just saw a ghost a dead person, you know, because she was she was a very sense that She's one of those ball of light people that you know, hugs everyone in the room and just has that ball of bride energy. So if she experienced that, who knows, I mean, who knows how she

But but those people, like the first friends that they were having like paranormal activity happening in their bathroom. You're saying, yeah, like.

Sometimes stuff would be knocked off or I can't remember. I should have contacted them to ask about you know, something may have happened with the bathtub of you know, I can't recall, but I do know that she said specifically. And my sister said, do you dare tell my daughter that you have a ghost in your bathroom that she just saw at the top of the stairs soaking wet.

Yeah, Erry, well do Stee. Thank you so much for calling.

I think, thank you. This is so fun.

I love this show and I love hearing all the theories. And one thing I absolutely have to tell you is my favorite thing about you, Ross is I can always hear the smile in your voice no matter what you're talking. You're so genuine and I wish I could see what drag you're wearing right now.

Oh it's cool, gees, let me tell you.

Your voice no matter what you're talking, you're so genuine and I wish I could see what drag you're wearing right now.

Thank you so much to everyone that was on today's episode. Again, if you want to hear that bonus story from Joey talking about the haunted dorms that he stayed in that used to be an institution, and it's one of these places that seems to have like not just a couple of ghosts, like a lot of different kinds of ghosts. And so Joey tells that story on Patreon on the

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