What's that at bed? It's boy and you keep I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
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Said, Hi, Ras jess Ev Please, hey Boo, it's me ros Dress Flees. Do you have a nice Halloween? Welcome to November. Only eleven more months till next year. I'm gonna continue my ask Me Anything portion of the show because we have another full episode this week with our listeners. So I'm just gonna answer a couple of questions before we get into that. One question that I love that people often ask me, and I appreciate you asking me, is that, uh, they want to know what pronoun to
use when describing me, and I get it. It can be very confusing, and trust me, it's confusing for myself. It's a wonderful time that we live in these days where we are discussing gender identity. I mean, it's something that unfortunately I was in my late twenties to by the time I started being involved in these conversations. But
it's great. It's wonderful that we are acknowledging multiple gender identities these days in the way that we are on such a you know, such a broad conversation, and I will say, I think what best describes me as a non binary person. I don't really like to think about it too much because it's just, you know, it's sort of a gender fluid thing as well, where some days I'm more you know, I feel more masculine, some days I feel more feminine. But I think ultimately I'm just
sort of this creey of femininity. And then when I when I go into work, instead of wearing a work uniform, I wear wigs and makeup and and then I become this creature of hyper femininity. So I think, I think she when we're talking about the persona of rosdres Feles, I definitely think she is most appropriate. They is not really something that I like for myself. When I hear people describing me as they or them, I get a little bit confused because I think you're talking about multiple
people and that whole conversation. So I like she or just RAS, And he's fine too. I won't get offended. If a ghost child tried to hold your hand, would you let it or would you run from the room. Note that you don't actually know if it's a child or not. Okay, if any child held my hand, I would run out of the room. So yeah, when will Elena be back? On the podcast, asked, Wow, you guys love her so do I? I don't blame you. I talked to her recently and we're gonna do something really cool.
So she will be back and it will be sooner rather than later. So don't you even worry. Who would I want to play me in a movie? Megan Markle? She is still an actress. Don't forget it. What is it like being so fabulous? Exhausting? What's your boy name? I don't really have a boy name anymore. I just go by Roz. What's my favorite meal? Panda Express, orange chicken with chow, main favorite beverage Lacroix, Tangerine. What movie or music gives me life? Movie Alvira, Mistress of the Dark,
or Boogie Nights or Showgirls or Carrie? And music that gives me life? The B fifty Two's all right, let's listen to some listeners. I've been ghosted too, Celia, Hello, Hi, where are you calling from?
I am in Denver, Colorado?
No way. Do you think that that airport is run by the Illuminati?
I would not be surprised if it is, because there's a lot of weird energy in there and a lot of weird stories that I've heard about it.
Yeah, and that weird horse with the red eyes.
Oh my god, Lucifer, is that what they call it? Terrifying?
Yes?
I heard that it killed the artists that made it when he was making it. Is that true?
Yes?
He did, he fell on top of him.
Okay, if anyone, I.
Always see it as like a bad omen for flying.
Yeah, to keep it up if anyone is listening. I mean, I try it to get two into conspiracy theories. But I have been to the Denver Airport and I didn't know about this and someone told me, like, oh, the Illuminati. It's like this whole conspiracy about the Illuminati, and I looked it up and I don't know, it's convincing.
There's some weirdness going on there, but yeah, I definitely wouldn't be surprised if they're shady shit.
I No, there's like gargoyles and stuff as decorations. Anyway, let's talk about ghosts. So you're from Peru, am I correct?
I am?
Yes?
I was born there and my parents met there. My father's from there originally.
Amazing, and what kind of ghost stories do you have to tell?
Okay, so there are quite a few. I tried to condense it, but it really started off with a couple of stories that I was told about myself when I was a kid, So I don't remember these, but these are a couple that my parents always told me when I was growing up, around the time when I was actually conceived, my parents were just a couple of young lovers running around Peru and they were partying one night at the Nascal Lines, which I don't know if you've
heard of that or if any of the listeners have lines.
Talk about conspiracy theories right exactly.
Yeah, So everyone should definitely look it up if you don't know what it is, because there's a lot of alien stories and things that come from that region, because it's.
One of those like natural things like Stonehenge or something right where pyramids where there's just some ancient artwork where people are like, uh, I'm pretty sure this was aliens.
Yeah, because you can only see the structures from the sky in an airplane and they're like perfectly straight lines, huge, like for thousands of miles. I think the whole thing spans, So everyone's like curious about how they had the technology
to be able to do that. Yeah, So my parents were just being why there one night and my dad was in the car playing music, and he said that my mom was dancing in the headlights and at one point he saw a bunch of shadow figures start to swarm her and kind of entrance her, and she was like loving it and dancing with them, and it really freaked him out.
So he decided to.
Grab the gun that he had in the car, like a little old handgun, and he just shot it in the air to break the cells, so to speak. But that soon after that they found out she was pregnant. So I'm not sure if I was actually there at that moment, but there were basically shadow figures around my mom at the time.
Whoa, and she knew, she acknowledged them, and she was dancing with them.
She said she felt like an energy, but she didn't see them or anything. Only my dad did. Okay, I don't know, nyah. Yeah. And then fast forward a couple of years later and we were living in Colorado and at one point, just all of a sudden, they said that I started having really bad nights haares, So I would try to fall asleep and then I would just
wake up screaming and panicking every time. And I wasn't old enough to say what I was seeing or experiencing that They just knew that I was terrified about something, so they were trying to figure out what to do. But around the same time, my dad was working with a Native American shaman up in the mountains here and he was doing advertising for his shop and had to go pick up a check from him. So he told my mom, you know, why don't we bring the kids and we can just get away for a day in
the mountain. But he didn't tell the shaman that he was bringing his family, and he had never told him anything that was going on with me. But when we pulled up in the driveway, the shaman immediately came out and went directly to me in the car, and they were like, uh, what do you do And he's like, I can sense, but there's a very strong presence traveling with you guys, and it's attached to her, and don't worry, I'll explain everything, but I just need to like see
her for a moment. So he went to me in the car seat, and they said that he was rubbing my head and chanting something. I'm not sure exactly what language it was or anything, but when he was done, he looked at them and said, don't worry, She'll be able to sleep now.
And they were like, what, how did you know?
And basically he said that he could sense that I had a very strong aura energy and that I would need to be careful with that throughout my life because that makes me more susceptible for negative entities wanting to attach to that, to basically feed off of me. And when they looked, yeah, when they looked back in the car at me, I was dead asleep and I think I slept for like over twenty four hours.
Oh oh my gosh. Yeah. So do you feel like you you are susceptible to like dark energies?
Oh yeah, because that was just the beginning. I've actually seen too Shawman since then that have told me the same thing. And basically, throughout my life I experienced sleep paralysis a lot and always kind of felt like I
was never alone. But then when I was in college in my early twenties, we moved into an apartment complex, and I think the energy in the building had something to do with it, because everyone that lived with us, had really went through difficult like emotional crises at the time, and there was actually like a shooting later we found out in the building and there was something off about the building, So I think that might have been related to why this picked up. But the minute I moved
in my sleep paralysis became like constant. It was every single night I would see this shadow figure open the door in my room, and over time it progressively would get closer and closer to me. Like it started off outside of the room, but by the end it was like hovering over me, and I could feel a breath on my neck and like feel the covers being pulled off of my seat, and it got very very close.
But within that time when it was escalating, I think part of me, this is a little bit shameful to say, but whatever, I kind of enjoyed it because I would also get really sexually erosed for it, So I don't.
Yeah, So I don't know.
If it was like an incubus situation or sometimes when I'm trying to rationalize it, I think maybe I just like really had to pee all of those times I was station.
I don't know, I don't it kind of sounds.
Like the best boyfriend ever. Like know, right, you don't even have to like listen to him, you don't even have to talk, just he just shows up and breeds.
On you at night. Yeah, just gets the job done and then goes bye. So I was kind of excited by all of it, and I was doing some things. But you know, looking back on it, I was definitely young and naive and not really to the warnings that I had been given. But I started becoming more withdrawn from my friends and family, and I would choose to stay home, like on the weekends and stuff and hold these little like seances, I guess you could call them.
Like I didn't look up any specific ritual or anything, but I would just like sit in the dark with candles around me in a circle and hold a mirror up to my face and basically just invite like whatever wanted to come in, like let's party, I'm open.
Yeah.
So I was definitely like encouraging what was going on, And at one point when I finally became concerned, there were two things that happened right around the same time. I started noticing a lot of physical changes in myself, Like I was throwing up all the time, and it was like this black file that was really gross, and my skin became really dry and like no amount of lotion or anything would help.
So I was like, this is odd.
And then at that time, also my friends said that they were starting to experience things in the apartment, like we had a really heavy wooden chairs in our living room and we would hear them slamming down and sliding
across the room and no one would be there. And one of my friends said that she bought some bananas and they were on a banana stand about ten feet away from where our stove was, and she was standing at the stove cooking and all of a sudden, she hears something fall behind her and she looks down and the bananas were smashed at her feet. So yeah, so they were starting to get freaked out, and I was like, uh oh, maybe I should tell someone what's been going on,
since it's escalating and affecting other people. So I finally told my parents, and my mom put me in spiritual boot camp, as she calls it. We went to a non denominational church, did a sage cleansing, and then her friend recommended a shaman that she knew, and so I made an appointment with her and she did a crystal cord cut cleansing, which you guys can look up, but it's basically where you use crystals to cut any negative energetic ties that you have. So she did this whole
ceremony and she started talking about my past lives. But I got the sense that she was frightened by what she saw, because she basically just said, You've been through a lot of trauma, a lot of abuse, a lot of grief. Don't ever do past life regression therapy. And she was just like, very adamant that I don't. I later inadvertently found out some things about my past life, which I'll get to, but she seemed very concerned about it.
And the main thing that she said was that she saw one large demon basically and a bunch of little ones that had been following me throughout various lives. And she said that these, yeah, that they had been with me basically since the very beginning, and that I've lived many, many lives and they've always been there. But the cleansing that she did really work, So for a little while nothing was happening. Really. My sleep paralysis turned into astral
projection dreams, which is amazing. So that's fun now and what I enjoy this. Yeah, so sleep paralysis is definitely the precursor to astral projection from what I've learned. So now when I notice my body falling asleep, I get excited because like I can stay consciously awake, and then that's when I can leave my body, is when my whole physical body falls asleep.
But what are you doing when you're when you're asleep.
Laying there in the bust? Okay, myself and my partner and I just go like flying around the city. Basically you go flying around the city.
Yeah.
Cool. Yeah, it's kind of like, you know, just a flying lucid dream. But I wake up like shooting out of my body and I can see myself there and the room is the same, everything is the same, and I usually just jump off the balconies.
Oh my gosh. Yeah.
Well, and then I'll just list a few things if we have time quickly, because there is another story with the other Shawman.
Wow, I feel like you need a full length episode.
I know there's been so much.
Feel free to cut me off at any point because I know it's a lot.
No, it's okay, but keep in mind, We're going to keep doing this kind of show. You can always come back if you want to, like take more time with certain stories, just so you don't feel rough.
Well, really, I'm sure by then I'll have more. Okay, A lot of things have been happening, like technology malfunctioning, me seeing things in the room. I actually had to take the battery out of this light because it would not turn off. A lamp flew off the table when I got really upset when I was talking to someone about Trumps. Oh wow, I'm obviously not a fan, but I felt this like jolt and the lamp flew off the table and landed in the weirdest possible way. So
things like that were happening. So I was like, you know, maybe I should see another shaman just to see how to control and hopefully be able to harness some of this, like in a more controlled way. So just a week and a half ago, I saw another shaman, and I hadn't told her really any details about the past one, just that I had had some issues. So I'd seen shaman before, but now I just feel really energetically charged
and want some guidance on that. And basically that was all I said, But when I got there, she told me that she saw that I was a spiritual portal. But in the beginning, she said that she couldn't see any light coming from me, like there was no positive light energy. She said that she could see me like in a cave or a hole, and that I was being basically held captive by one very large evil entity and a bunch of little small ones. So exactly what
the other lady had said. Wow. And then she went more in depth into the past lives that she saw. There were two that stood out to her. In one, she said that I was a witch who had decided to practice black magic, and I guess in that life I really let these entities like completely take over my life and ruled everything I did. And she said that she saw a lot of blood and a lot of sacrifice, and that she had even seen me like killing my
six month old child with an obsidian blade. And I think she saw how unsettled I got by that, but she was like, no, but what I'm sensing is that you were actually trying to save him because you knew that you had basically brought this negative energy into the world with him, and then you suddenly grew a conscience and decided you wanted to help them. So, wow, sacrifice my child for his greater interest, I guess. But then she said, prior to that, where she had seen where
all of this started was during Egyptian times. So she saw me surrounded by Egyptian like pharaohs and priests wearing these masks like the Horus god mask and all those different masks, and that they wanted to punish me for some sin that I had committed. So it was really the Egyptians that started all of this for me.
Wait, but that's also where apparently I was What if I was the one punishing you, or what if we're we're friends? I don't know.
I know I thought about that, knowing you were going to be talking about that. Maybe I'm talking the one that started this.
Well, yeah, please keep me updated and hopefully we can talk more about this in the future. Yeah.
Absolutely, anytime.
Where are you calling from?
I am calling from Atlanta, Georgia. Actually i'm north. I'm close to Canton, which is like about you know, forty five or an hour north of actual Atlanta. Oh, but it is the Atlanta area.
Maybe I should do a live show in Atlanta.
You totally should. I would a one hundred percent go. I think think that that's a great idea.
Yeah, okay, maybe maybe twenty twenty, we'll see what happens.
Yes, you should totally do that in Atlanta, and like you know, Savannah of course is super haunted. And then you've got Kennesaw that has the Kennesaw Mountain battlefields that are supposed to be super haunted. And there's tons of haunted places around us.
Yeah, well, where are the haunted places that you've been?
So I've been to Kenesaw Mountains, but I haven't really had any experiences there. And I mean, of course, my half of my family is from the Appalachian Mountains and there's tons of stuff that goes on up there.
So is that where your grandparents' house was?
Yes?
Yeah, that was where my grandparents' house was. Where they saw that white dog that put its paw on that brick in the fireplace and then there was that baby skeleton underneath that.
Oh okay, so tell us all the story.
Okay, okay, So that is like a family story that gets passed down through all of our generations. But it was like my great great granddad in the Appalachian mountains and it was back when there was no houses anywhere, and they got this house and it was an old style farmhouse where there's just two rooms and one room is where you do everything, like it's the family room, it's the dining room, it's everything. And then the second
room is where you sleep. And so there's just one door separating the bedroom and the kitchen, and then one door that goes to outside. And of course, since you're in the middle of nowhere, you're not going to lock your doors. And they had just moved in and they were and when they woke up the next morning, the front door was wide open, and my granddad was like, our great great granddad was like, okay, that's weird. So I'm just gonna close this door and lock it. And
then they went to sleep again. The next morning, they woke up and the front door was wide open again, and even though he had locked it, so this time he was like, okay, well, I'm going to close and lock the front door and close and lock the middle door in between the two rooms. And when he woke up that next morning, the middle door was wide open and unlocked, and so was the front door, and there was a pure white dog inside their home and in
the front room. They had one of those big fireplaces that was made with all of the flat natural river rocks, and it had one large river rock right at the very base of it, and the dog had its paw on that river rock and it just sort of locked eyes with my great great granddad and they stared at each other for a minute, and then the dog just walks away. Well, my granddad takes that stone up, and underneath that stone was the skeleton of a baby.
What yeah, what do you mean, Like it was like fossilized.
No, like it was already like decomposing everything, but it was a legit just baby skeleton of a baby human like you know, it was forever ago. So the baby probably passed away from you know, like either like at birth because they probably were birthing all their kids in that house and everything. Sure, and the family just put it, you know, under that rock is a way of burying it. But my granddad is like not and went and buried
it outside. And when he gave it like a proper grave, they never had any issues that the doors opening ever again. He never saw that white dog ever again. So I don't know what like if it was you know, maybe like the way the baby was trying to communicate to be like, hey, can I get a proper burial? Or maybe it was like the ghost of the mother of the baby that was like, hey, I don't know, Oh.
My gosh, that poor baby. It's like, uh, I'm not trying to be under a rock and a fireplace.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like you guys are putting all sorts of stuff. Ony you're standing on me. Can I just go on the ground please?
Cause yeah weird?
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So that house is it still in the family.
Or no, no, no, it's not in the family anymore. They sold that property a long time ago because they like ended up transitioning to like their own They bought their own mountain, right like that side of my family.
Yeah.
Actually, my great great grandmother was one of the first women to own her own land in the state of North Carolina. Oh yeah, so she's pretty badass.
Okay, So wait, what is this business with Hell's Church?
Okay, So the history of it that I know is it's a church in Canton, Georgia. And if you like, if you go on to any website that has a list of haunted places, in Georgia. They usually have Hell's Church listed on there. But the history of it I know is that it used to be a Satanic church and yeah, and they would bring people in under the
notion that they were going to be baptizing them. And they have a natural creek that runs behind it, and the natural creek sort of makes its own little pool area and that's where they'd say they'd be baptizing these people, but they would actually drowned them as like a Satanic sacrifice and a ritual that they were doing. So there's supposed to be, you know, a lot of heavy activity because tons of people are supposed to have gotten murdered there.
Think about being like like underwater ghosts. That is the scariest thing ever. Wait where is this located. This is in Georgia.
Yeah, it's in Canton, Georgia. So Canton, Georgia is roughly about an hour north of Atlanta.
Okay, yeah.
And the weird thing is with the church. Now, I haven't been there in five years. I refuse to go back, so I don't know what it looks like now. But when you when I went in there, it's like in the middle of the city of Canton, which Canton is a small city. It's like more like a little town. You know. You've got some grocery stores, you've got gas stations. They have like a Michael's craft store. That's like the big store they have.
Yeah, right, my dream man is Michael.
Yeah, I hear that one hundred percent. But yeah, so, but it's in the middle of all that city. And you go up a road and you take a left in the road that you're on forks and if you go to the right, it is a subdivision, like a plain old subdivision that I would never live in personally because it's too close to that church. But it's like, you know, newer houses and everything. And then if you go to the left, that road only goes to the church.
It dead ends into the church, and you go winding back through all of these woods, and it's like the city drops away and disappears, and you are in the middle of nowhere, even though you're like right there. And that's it's so weird how it's positioned, because you're surrounded by just like acres of trees.
Sound like that, Nope, Yeah, that's like do you want to live or do you want to be possessed by an underwater.
You decide exactly exactly Michaels, Yeah, right. But so the first time I went there was right when I moved here, because I used to live in Wisconsin and I moved down here in two thousand and five, and it was like some people that I had met and I was like eighteen, and I'm like, oh, let's go find ghosts. This will be fun. And so the group of us goes to house church and first we go during the
day because we're gonna find this baptismal poole. And so you have to like hike sort of through the woods to get to it, but you find it, and the creek is a very like shallow creek, but it does make a really deep pool, like it's definitely deep enough to drowns and people in and I know it's so creepy,
but nothing. I didn't experience anything there. I didn't feel anything weird, and so I was kind of like, you know, and back at that time, even though I've had weird things happen to me in paranormal experiences, I was still leaning towards the side of like the skeptic. So this whole time, I'm like, whatever, this is kind of dumb, you know. So then we went that night and we brought a camcorder because we're like, we read somewhere that if the camcorder loses focus and stuff like that, it's
because there's an apparition. I really don't think that's true. I think that's some like internet stuff the scare kids. But we brought our cam quorder and we were out there and we were walking around for a while. And the thing is is like the road that you drive on, you have to drive on it for like a solid fifteen minutes at least until you get to this church
and you're just out in the woods. Is it just like yeah, it's yeah, it's totally pitch black, so sad, and you know how creepy it is driving through the woods, just your headlights lighting up everything. And so you go through the woods and then when you you go out to a tiny little call de sac, and to the right side of the call de sac is the church and it's just a one story white building. It's not extrac e egant and doesn't have like a huge steeple on or anything. And then to the left is a
very small graveyard. It probably has maybe like twenty or thirty grades in it. But the church had been remodeled, and you they have these two like French doors on the front of it, and then windows on either side of that, and when you look through the window, you can see the security system, the alarm box for it, and the light was red, so the security system was
on and it was totally armed. And then it has one spooky street light at that called a sack, just sort of illuminating everything, and it's one of those orangey ones, so everything's like this orange glow. It's kind of eerie.
Wait, so, but what is this church now? It's like a Christian church or what.
I think it's a Baptist church, but it is still a functioning church, like and I'm pretty sure it's a Baptist church. I'm not one hundred percent. I haven't looked at it in a minute to see what it is, but it's definitely a functioning church.
That's so interesting that it was a say, Batanic church, and now it's a Baptist.
Yeah.
Right, that's like the history of histories that it was the Satanic church. I'm sure the people you know that go to church now are probably like, that's not true. But regardless, the place is definitely haunted. So whether like that Satanic church history that goes around is true or not, it's definitely haunted. There's no question in my mind that it's haunted. So whether it's like a scary Satan ghost or just like some regular run of the mill where just regular ghosts.
Just a good old fashioned woods ghost.
Yeah, but yeah. So we had walked around the grounds in the woods for a little while and nothing was really happening, so we decided to leave. And the way you pull up in the Call to Sac is your cars are sort of in a line along it right next to the church the entrance. And as I was walking back towards the cars, one of the girls that I was in just goes, oh my God and covered her mouth and just looked terrified. So I turned around to see what she looked at, because she was looking
at the front of the church. And the front door opened on its own and then closed on its own. And I watched this happen and I was like.
Nope, we need to leave with the security system on.
Yeah, And the alarm did not go off, it was it didn't go off at all. And they had checked the doors the doors were locked, and it just came open on its own, and it came open big enough for a human to come out, and then it closed, so didn't like fly open. It looked just like someone nonchalantly what opened the door, walked out and then closed the door behind them. And it was not windy, none of that business was happening. Nobody was by the door.
It just totally did it on its own. And so I'm like nope, and we all left, and you know, I'm I'm still like at this point kind of being like skeptical, trying to reason why it happened and stuff like that. And then years later, like maybe five years ago, I was like telling the person I was dating at the time about Hell's Church and he's like, let's go,
and I'm like, yeah, okay, totally this is great. And so once again we go at night, we're winding along the road and then I just get hit with like a wall of just oppression is the best word that I can describe it. It was heavy, like it felt heavy, it felt like something, and we weren't even at the church yet, We're just still winding through the woods and it was just heavy and oppressive and it felt bad, Like it didn't. I wasn't scared, it wasn't fear, it
was something different. And I'm like, this is just all in my head, so I don't say anything about it. I'm like, you're over reacting. This is all on your head. It's just something weird that's happening. And so we're sitting in silence for a minute, just under this crushing oppression, and he says, do you feel that? And I was like, yes, we need to turn around right now. This is not okay. And he's like, no, I still want to check it out and stuff, and I was like, I'm not leaving
this car. And so we pull up and he gets out, walks around, and I sit in the car and I'm like, this doesn't feel right to me. What it felt like. It felt like whatever sort of like entity or being or energy is going on there told me all right, girl, you had your fun before. This is a warning. Don't come back here. That's what it felt like to me. And I'm like, no problem, I will never be back.
But it was just like so oppressive, and the fact that it was like silent for a minute and then him being like do you feel that?
I was like, oh, no, this is not okay.
Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's like girl, we opened a door, just waiting to see what's gonna happen if you keep going. Yeah, oh I don't like it.
Yeah, it was super it was super scary. I've had like other weird paranorl happenings that didn't feel scary. That was the one that felt malicious, like that was the one that I had that It was like a warning, like a bad things will happen if you keep coming back here, and so I will. I refuse to go back.
It won't go back.
I think it would be fun to go. What if when I go do a live show there? What if we went.
It just I would love to tell you how to get there. I will legit give you directions on how to go. It's just like it felt like one of those things that you need to listen to, like if the feeling was all encompassing, like it was my entire being. Yeah, I had this oppression against it that was like you're pushing your luck And I was like, that's something that I feel like I need to listen to. But if you want directions, I will tell you how to get there, no problem, oh.
Come on, you don't want to go swimming in the creek.
We can, we need to get in that thing.
But it was like wintertime and it was kind of cold out. But I totally would have gotten that. Maybe I would go during the day, But I'm not going to go at night again, because whatever's hanging out there at night time doesn't want me there anymore. And I'm gonna listen to that. I can't. It's like nothing I've ever felt ever again, at any point in time in.
My life ever.
Okay, well, before we go, tell me, can you tell me like a happy paranormal experience or I mean one that you didn't feel like that?
Yeah, for sure. So like when we lived in our house in Wisconsin. That house was uh super old, and I had I was like doing my homework in the kitchen and the entire room like there was a lot of pressure build up in the room that I could feel it. You know how when it gets like so quiet that you can feel the quietness. Yes, And we had like this cake, this glass cake platter, and it just busted. It just shattered everywhere.
Nothing was by it.
It was sitting on the counter mining its own business, and it just exploded and it wasn't scary, Like I didn't feel afraid. I was just like, WHOA, that was so weird. I don't know, like what did that like if it was like a kind of energy or if it was like paranormal activity going on.
But was there other like paranormal stuff in that house?
Was it?
Did you think it was haunted?
Now? I would have so I know you had Oscar Montoya on. Yeah, and uh there talking about dreams, you know, dream premonitions, which I've had those pretty much my whole life. But the most activity that I had was in my house when I was really little, and then that house in Wisconsin is when I would have the most dreams. And I would have so many dreams about the attic of that house and just some sort of presence up there.
So I didn't.
Directly experience anything, but just the way that I had dreams about that presence. And then I would have like those premonition dreams in that location more than I have in other locations that I feel like there was definitely some kind of energy going on there.
What's like a premonition dream that you've had, They're so.
Lame ras like I'll I'll have one where I used to work at a fast food taco restaurant up there called Taco John's, which is delicious. I don't know if you had them when you lived up North Taco john Taco Johns.
Yeah, it's so good.
It's like a it's like a high end taco bell. If that's a thing that can even happen, Okay, but yeah,
it's good. But I worked there and I had this dream about a pair of gold wire rim glasses sitting on a stack of books on like a mahogany desk, and the desk had one of those like vintage desk lights that was the green glass with like the black glossy base on it, super sleek looking, and the desk was super cluttered with a ton of paper, and those gold wired room glasses were sitting on a bunch of books. And that was my dream, you know, but I just
remembered it. It stuck with me. And then about a week later, our manager comes in and she had a customer on the phone and she was like, Hey, has anybody seen a pair of glasses? One of our customers lost them, and I was like, well, what do they look like? And she asked them what they look like, and she was like, oh, they're a pair of gold wired grim glasses. So I had to dream about that
customer's glasses. But I couldn't just say, oh, check on your desk, you know, because like that would be weird.
So do you think this customer had a mahogany table with a green glass light?
I do.
I think I dreamt where they left their glasses for sure. Yeah, And that's why I say they're like lame, because it's like, oh, I can help you find your glasses. Or I had a dream about one of my friend's childhood homes and I had just met them, you know, when I was like seventeen or eighteen, and I was like, oh, I
had a dream with you in it. Last night. We were at this house and it was really weird, and I was like describing it top to bottom, and their face just went sheet white and they were like, oh my god, that's my childhood home.
You just described it.
To a tea. Oh. I didn't know them until I was seventeen, you know. Interesting, I didn't know.
So it's like you're you're like a psychic, but you I mean, is there a reason that you would need to know that stuff like.
No, that's why I'm like. It's like I'm it's like when you get a super power and they're like, what's your sewer power? And you're like, oh, I can make toast. You know, Yeah, it's cool, but it's also kind of land.
Yeah, but I bet if you, if you learn to hone it, I bet you you could really use it for for good and you know it could.
Yeah, definitely, That's something that has been really interested in practicing. Again. I feel like I'm at like a good place in my life with myself to where practicing that would be a smart move, you know, because you know, I went through a couple of rough patches and when you do that, I don't think like opening yourself up to stuff like that is necessarily a good idea. But now I feel like I'm in a good place to where exploring that again and like you say, trying to hone in on
it would be a good move. So I've been looking into that, you know, maybe like star name with Tara, like learning Taro because that really interests me.
For something, Well, if you get a psychic vision of me being in Atlanta, let me know, oh I.
Will for sure.
There's a ghost in my house? Is this the world famous Melvin?
It is?
It is? Wait Melvin? Where are you? Where are you at?
So I'm in Carrie, North Carolina?
Oh wow? Yeah, what is the story?
Okay? So I was asleep. I was at home and me and my fiancee now husband working your head, and
I was having a dream. I was like on Netflix and I was looking for a scary movie to watch, and I started feeling like someone was watching me or looking at me, I don't know, And so like I pulled myself out of sleep and I saw like this like dark figure just like standing over me, and it took me a second to realize what was going on, and so like I started to look up the body and like try to see the face, but like there
was nothing there, Like it was just pitch black. And as soon as I got to like the face area, it turned around and started to walk away, and I was like, okay, I'm just dreaming. And then that's when it like drug its fingers down down my left leg I think it was, and I just I just completely froze, and I was like, what the hell just happened? And so I watched it like go around my bed and just disappear, and so I was just kind of sitting there and didn't really know what to do. And my husband,
his name is Jeffrey. He does not like to be touched when he is asleep, and so I didn't want to wake him up or anything. So all I could do was like scoot closure to him without bothering him, and I just I couldn't go back to sleep. I think I was up maybe thirty forty minutes after that, and I fell back asleep and got up the next morning and he was getting ready for work and I was like, hey, so I had this dream. I had to like make it seem like it wasn't that big
of a deal. I was like, I had this dream or whatever this thing happened. And I was like, I think something touched me, I like, not human. And he is very, very skeptical about this stuff. I'm a strong believer in it, but he is definitely somebody that is like, I don't believe it until I see it. And so I was trying to tell him about it and he was just like it, okay, Sure.
So I.
Text my best friend who also listens to your podcast, and I was like, I need to talk to you. Because I know you'll believe me because Jeffrey doesn't believe me. So so yeah, that that is the story.
But wait, so, but the demon wasn't actually a part of a dream or the black pep.
No, it wasn't. And that's the thing. I don't know if it was a demon or anything, because me and Jeffrey have been living in this house. It's we still live in the house almost three years and so the house was built in like nineteen seventy two, nineteen seventy four,
so it's not that old of a house. But an elderly couple did live here before us, and I think the wife died and I don't know if it is her or or something, but I tend to be pretty sensitive to stuff like that, and I haven't felt anything. And we have two cats and they they don't ever freak out and all. But I just I don't know what it could have been.
Honestly, he's did it have Did you get like an evel feeling or what was the did you get a vibe off of it?
That's yeah, I didn't get an evil feeling. It was just like somebody just watching and it's just like I don't feel threatened by you or anything. You just you just caught me off guard.
So but then they were just like, okay, I'm gonna leave, but before I did, let me just slide my finger down your life.
I think I know that I was here.
Here's my theory. I think it was a demon, but like a nice demon that was looking for a three way. And oh god, they were just staring at you. And he's like, are you sure you like what you see?
No?
You don't, Okay, he's all insecure. He's like, oh god, this again. Okay, fine, I'll just leave. But wait, wait, let me just slide my finger down. Nope, you're not right. Okay, I'm out of here.
That's my case, just so you know, you know, just in case you want to, you know, call me back or something. Yeah. Yeah.
But so are you opened this presence coming back into your life.
That's a great question, Roz.
I guess. I guess so.
Like I said, I wasn't threatened by it. But if it comes back, it comes back. If it doesn't, you know, I won't live any more sleep over it.
But you know, I want this presence to visit your husband, you know.
And I thought about that too, because like I said, he doesn't believe in this stuff. He he's very, very skeptical of a lot of things. And I've always kind of been keeping an ear out and kind of watching closely because I've always been an observer and I am still to this day. But it would be interesting for him to have an experience. And I feel like sooner or later he will because he married.
Me, so you know.
But so are you somebody that you've had bunch of experiences like that?
Oh, not like that, but I have had experiences like I went to a I went to Peace College here in Raleigh. It used to be an all girls school and my class was actually the first co ed class to come in in twenty twelve. And so when they started building the school in eighteen fifty seven, halfway through, the Silver War broke out and so they stopped construction of the school itself and turned it into a Confederate hospital.
So there's all kinds of stuff happening there, like it is most definitely haunted, and my friends have had experiences. I've had experiences there.
It's just crawling with all that what's happened.
So one of my friends, I did theater in college, and I still do. I act all around the area. And one of my friends who's also an actor, he
in his room. He said that there was a woman that would only come to him at night, and he didn't know what she looks like, but he knew what she sounded like, and she would always like call his name and like talk to him and like all these things, and she would keep him up, and it came to a point where he was not sleeping at night, so he would show up to class and just be a zombie.
Basically, she would just non stop be saying his name all night. Mm hmmm, So all night She's just like.
Yeah, yeah. Basically, it's like so creepy. So but he he never did figure out who it was and it eventually stopped. But there was like a month or two where he was not sleeping because he this lady would not let him sleep.
That sounds terrible. I don't like this kind of stuff that happens in the middle of the night. Did you wait, let's go back to you and your three way ghost. So yeah, did you do you think it was sleep paralysis? Have you had sleep paralysis before?
I have had sleep paralyss paralysis more times than I can count Oh really, yeah, yeah, I have another story if we have time, of course, sure, But I don't think it was sleep paralysis because I could move. I was I could have moved, I should say, but I didn't. And I definitely know the difference when I am having sleep paralysis because there is that sense. And I think you've talked about it before too, that you've had it in there you know when you have it, like you
know when it's happening. So this time, like, it wasn't that, And I think it also came along with not feeling threatened or anything. But when it was happening, I was like, oh shit, it's it's going down.
So what usually happens when you have sleep paralysis.
Usually what happens is like I'll wake up and I just I can't move, and like I can look around the room and everything. But there is something there, a figure which helps me segue into my next story with the sleep prolysis. So my second apartment. This was about three years ago. I think this was right before me
and Jeffrey actually started dating. I was living in this apartment with a good friend of mine who is also an actress, and I was asleep in my room and I woke up and I realized I was having a sleep prolyssis. I knew it was happening. And in the corner of my room was this tall I like get chills talking and even thinking about it, this tall, dark figure, just dark, just standing in the corner looking at me,
and I rob I didn't know what to do. I just all I could do was just lay there and just be like, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. And I just kept like thing is just like, please go away, please go away. And like I finally managed to like close my eyes and open the back up and it was gone.
But it was it was tall and dark, and I was like, I what, what do you think it was the same one.
No, I don't think so, because this one I felt threatened by. I definitely got an energy from it that it was like watching me in a way that what are you doing here?
I think it was the same one. And he just realized that the first time completely failed. He's like, Okay, in the second time, I'm gonna take like a friendly approach. Maybe he'll like me this way.
I think broke his le.
Yeah, yeah, because last time I could. I think I came up a little too spooky. It sounds like you have a type, or like there's a type that's attracted to you, which is the maybe maybe gruesome. Wow, oh gosh, I'm so happy this has never happened to me. So do you do you sleep on your back? Because that's the thing I always say, I hear, yeah, sleep on you when you see demons.
So the times that it's happened, yes, I have been on my back. I normally sleep on my stomach, like face down, which is not good for you, which you know causes the wrinkles. But when it happens like I'm on my back, and I, like I said, I don't normally sleep on my back.
But.
When it's when it happens, I'm on my back every single time.
Yeah, it's no good. Like I say, I'll take the wrinkles. I'm not dealing with demons in my room.
Yeah, I can't do it.
Oh my gosh. Okay, is there anything else you want to share? These are good stories?
Yeah? Oh well my.
So my parents' house. I'll try to make this a quick one. My parents house that they currently live in. I believe there's something there too. And I remember when I was like sixteen, or seventeen. I was home alone and I was watching TV. And where you are in the living room, if you look to the left, you can look straight through the dining room in the kitchen, and I was watching TV and a cup that had been sitting on the counter hadn't moved anything flew off
the counter. And I was like what, And so, of course, like I get up and I go and I was like, that's not even possible. I know, it wasn't near the edge of the counter. And I also looked to see if there was like maybe condensation, because you know, sometimes cups will like slide and the light under them. But it wasn't. It just flew off the counter. And so I told my parents about it, and they thought, sure, silly, okay, teenageer whatever. And so now my sister, who is nineteen,
she is still at home. She'll she'll go off to college next year. She has had some experiences which you know, reassures me, Okay, I'm not crazy. There is something going on at that house. And like she has had shoes fly off the rack and her bathroom she's like hurt stuff. There's like on the back of the front door. They are like these blinds that make noise whenever you move
them or open them. And she said, she got up around three am, so you'll get some water, and no one else was up, and all of a sudden, the blind started shaking and she was like, nope, I'm not thirsty, and she went back to bed, and so she told me about it, and I was like, okay, so there probably is something there. So I got to do some more investigating with that as well as my house. I can absolutely update you on that, but yeah, I who knows. I think there's something at that house stuff.
Okay, so do some investigative journalism and check back in with me because I'm very curious.
Yeah, I most definitely will.
So LEXI, what are we talking about today? Ouiji boards?
Okay, so I will just start at the beginning.
So where are you calling from?
Oh, I'm from Texas. But all of this happened in the upper Peninsula of Michigan.
Ooh yeah.
People say that like Michigan is like a vortex for energy. There's just like so many haunted houses and like just demons and bad energy, like it's crazy up there.
Well I never realized this. I had an ex that I took back home to Grand Rapids, Michigan, and he grew up in California, and he was like, there is a church on every single corner, which I didn't realize growing up, but now that I've gone back and I look around, I'm like, yeah, there's like a lot of churches everywhere. So I don't know if that has anything to do with that, just like.
Trying to make up for the fact that there's Beeman's everywhere.
Yeah, but I think a lot of people that believe in that stuff, that believe in like evil.
And yeah, yeah, totally. So my grandma lives in this house that's like an old mafia house from like back in the prohibition days.
Whoa. So there's like all these.
Like underground tunnels that have been filled in with dirt, so like halfway up the stairs you can like open it and there's this like trapdoor that is filled in with dirt from like back then. And it's old farm, so there's all these like chicken coops and you know, it wasn't actually a farm, but it was just like the remnants of the farm. So my grandma would always have like people coming over, like she was she was always like helping out homeless people or just like ramblers
and rollers like whoever would come through. People would just stay there with her all the time. So apparently there was this one guy who came and he had like a Wigi board and it was upstairs. So in the upstairs bedrooms, there's one bedroom and then there's a door, and then there's another bedroom behind that door, and that's where like all of it is. It's like in this back bedroom and there's also like a bathroom attached to it.
So like the story goes that my grandma had to like exercise some guy because he was using this Wiji board. And eventually I don't know, I don't know if that's like true or if that's like whatever some kind of rumor, but the Wiji board always stayed like right there above the closet in that bedroom. So it was always it was like this old wooden, like real deal Wiji board and just right above the closet. And my grandma's really religious, so I was always I was like, why is this here?
But wait, so this guy, just some random guy that she was like letting stay with her came in with a Wigi board and then he got possessed by a demon.
Yes, that's story. So it all it all went down in this closet in this bedroom, is like what I've heard from my family, and that's where the Weiedi board would stay. And like this closet feels like there's a demon in there. So I'm like, it seems I don't know whatever the thing is. There was a demon in that closet and there was the weigy board above it. So growing up, I would like start using it because
it was just always there. And eventually I was like, well, shoot, let's do it without knowing anything about like how to manage that kind of stuff. So when we would do it, it was crazy, like I've done wody wards before, but this one like new things, like it knew like the color of our underwear. We would ask around the circle and it would know and it said it was in
the closet. It said it with Lucifer. But I feel like that's just like a cocky demon, like we're not that lucky talking to like Lucifer and stuff.
Wow.
Yeah, So that so that was like to be.
Of like just opening the floodgates. And then ever since I used it, I just had all these experiences with demons, like i was seriously was like haunted growing up. I just was always having experiences.
What do you mean?
And so I lived in this house. This was probably the like the pinnacle of it. Like we moved into this house and I was just like really high on high alert because I was I was doing like witchcrafts and stuff. I was doing beady boards. I was just like into that kind of stuff as a kid, So
this stuff was really like attracted to me. So like one night I was laying I was like sleeping on the couch and I woke up in the middle of the night and I see this woman like in this yellow Victorian gown, just like sitting in front of me in the living room, drinking tea, and she's just staring at me. And so I get up. I like rub my eyes, rub my eyes and make sure it's real. And I look again and she's still there.
No, that's supposed to work. That works every time I know she was there.
She didn't budge. She just kept staring at me, sipping her teeth.
So there was yeah, wait, but do you think it But do you think that that was because you were doing all this witchcraft and stuff or do you think that that was like a ghost in that specific house.
Oh no, I think that that might have been a different thing. I just think that they were really like attracted to me in general. So I was just always having these experiences. Oh, I forgot to tell you. So after I did the Wigi board at my grandma's house, like the night after we did it for the first time, I was sleeping in my sister's bedroom and that's the one that's like right next to the room that we
did the Wigi board in. In the middle of the night, I wake up and the door knob is just shaking violently, like this big glass doorknob like shaking.
Ew.
I don't like that one.
Yeah, so okay, so let me get back to that house.
Wait.
So the demon's just like shaking the doorknob, and the demon's like you're underwears pink.
I don't know.
I mean, they were just like trying to get through. It felt like it honestly felt evil like it it was I've never felt anything like it. It was just like evil. That's the only way I can explain it.
Just like violent and malicious. So like this house, like doors would like open and shut when I was there, Like there was this knock that would happen on my bedroom door happened on my door, and then I would look, no one's there, And then like a couple minutes later, it would knock, but it would be inside the door, and then the knocks would just get closer and closer to me.
Wait, which house is this now?
Sorry, this is the other house that I lived in. This is like this is just another general ghost story. I guess I got a.
Little thrown off with the with the tea Is this the house with the tea drinking lady?
Yes, yeah, that's that house.
Okay, So she would drink tea and she would knock on the walls.
Yeah, it would just like knock and get close certain closer to me. I would be doing the dishes and I would just feel like breathing on my neck. It was literally every time I was alone in that house, something would happen, like every single time. So it got to the point where I would just when I got home from school, I would just like grab the phone and sit on the curb and I just wouldn't go inside till my parents got home.
I just I would not go How old was the house?
It wasn't even like an old house. It was like just like a normal house.
What sounds like that lady was like when did you say she was wearing Victorian clothes?
Yeah, she was like in a Victorian dress. And I've never understood that because I felt like it was demonic, like all the things that just because of the Ouiji board and all that stuff, and that's weird like ghosts. That was like a different thing. I don't know what that was. I have no idea.
I mean, I could have been a demon that was costplaying the Victorian. Yeah, yeah, sure, why not. I wear costumes all the time.
Yeah, And I always have dreams so like still to this day, I'll have dreams about being in my grandma's house and there's a demon like chasing me, like all the time.
Is that house like still in the family.
Yeah, she still lives there, So.
What does she have to say about it?
She Honestly, I never understood why that weed war was in there. She never talked about it. One time I lived there for a while and I just asked her to throw it in the dumpster and she did it, but she didn't really say much about it.
Oh so she knows she got rid of it, Yeah, because I.
Was living there, and I was like, Okay, we're not going to keep doing this, like we're gonna get rid of those things. And yeah, she threw it away, but I've never really I guess I never really talked to her about it for some reason.
Well, that doesn't necessarily mean that the demon's gone, no, I think, well, I.
Think it's I don't know, it's still somewhere in my brain because I have these dreams where like I'm just getting chased around and I'm just stuck in the house. But I don't know. I have another story too that Okay, let's hear it. Okay, So my friend, my best friend growing up, she lived in this plot of land that used to be a town called Atkinson, like back in the eighteen hundreds.
So there was like all these pits of like old shoes and clothes.
And like houses were like buried underground for some reason, and we would like dig up, like in the summer. We would just like dig and find these like houses. I have no idea what happened there.
But what do you mean that you'd find a house underground?
Like there was house So there was like chimneys that were on the ground.
Oh wow, yeah, and.
Then you would dig and there would be houses like you could just dig bricks and bricks and bricks.
Whoa, wait, where is this.
This isn't Michigan. It's in a town called Iron River.
Oh my god.
Okay, So like that house, that's where we started doing like witchcraft and stuff and just kind of like like spells, like we would just do like as kids, we would just be doing spells or whatever. But one night I was sleeping in the living room and she was asleep, like in the recliner across the room, and it was Christmas time. So I'm like laying there, I'm not asleep yet, and I'm looking at this ornament that's on the Christmas tree, like at the bottom of the Christmas tree. And then
it started swinging back and forth. And then so I looked away, and through like my peripherals, I could see that it stopped moving, and then I would look back and it would start swinging again, and then I'd look away and it would stop, and then I'd look back, and so finally I decided to just keep staring at it to see what would happen. And it starts swinging like back and forth, back and forth, super fast and it flies off the Christmas tree into the middle of the room.
Weird, I know, so, But now was that because of your witchcraft or what was that all about.
I kind of think that I was just like a mess as a kid, Like I was just into all sorts of stuff all the time. So I think that I was just like susceptible to whatever wanted to show itself to me.
Well, yeah, I mean if you don't know, like, how were you learning about these spells? Did you like go to the library and just like check out a book or didn't like.
Well, her sister had a book. Her sister had a book that we would do. One time, I did a spell to like get a boy to kiss me.
Did it work?
I had to get I had to get a blade of grass from his front lawn. It works. Yeah, he kissed me like two days later.
Oh my gosh, I want that spell. But I mean, if you i'm I don't. I actually don't know much about witchcraft, at least not in like I don't know much about like the the kind that can attract dark to your life. But I feel like if you're not doing it right, you could end up with a Christmas bulb flying across the room.
Right, Like we were just stupid kids just doing Wigi boards. Like they say, you're supposed to say goodbye after you do the Wiji board. We never said goodbye. Well, so we didn't do like we were not doing it right. So I think that it was just like all.
Sorts of stuff just yeah.
See, I recently learned that like you all have to lift your hands at the same time when you're doing a Wiji board or else that can like I don't know, open things up and stuff like I don't really I don't know, but there's definitely like ways of doing it that you got to know what you're doing.
I know, I wish that I would have like looked back, like I wouldn't make I would just be bored in my room and I wouldn't make a Wigi board out of paper with like a CD. I would just like use the CD. I just being an animal, like a wild animal about it. I was so interested because I knew that it was real, and I knew that like I would be able to talk to someone and that it that it would actually happen. So it was really exciting, but it ended up just like seriously haunting me. For
so long, like years and years and years. Wow. And I finally just like I got so irritated by just being scared all the time that I was just I decided to just not be scared anymore and to just start like yelling at them like I would.
I would just be like.
Fuck you, like you're not scaring me. Go away, I live here, you don't even live on this plane, like you can't do anything. And I would just vocalize this whenever I got scared and just act tough. Yeah, And I think that's kind of what did it. Like I just stopped giving it energy and stopped feeding into the fear. And I really haven't had like anything happened to me in years. So I think I've gained power.
Over That's amazing because I feel like these probably these dark and es are probably like, oh, I'm gonna get this girl, and then they're like and then you're like fuck you. And then they're like, oh, okay, fine, like you're no.
Fun, bruise their ego a little bit.
Yeah, they're like, oh gosh, I thought it was being scary. Okay, fine, I'm gonna move on to the next one.
Yeah, I know, But I mean everyone should do that, like if, like if you're scared, because my aunt told me once. I don't know if this is true, but it's really helped me. She told me that like angels and good beings, they can read your thoughts, but sad ones can't read your thoughts. So if you just pretend, even if you're like scared shitless in your head, if you just don't give any of that off, then they can't. They can't like feed off your fear.
Oh interesting, Okay, I'll keep that next time.
It might help you. But you know, it might just be psychological, but that helps too.
Yeah, No, that's good advice. I'll keep it in mind. Okay, Well, I'm going to go find a blade of grass and my crushes lawn. So thank you so much for calling. I really appreciate it. These are some good stories. Well what do you know about that? That was a fun episode. I love to hear from you all and again, if you guys would like to be considered for a listener episode. I want to do this every single month, so I think within the next few weeks or so we'll probably
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