Ken Boggle Deals For the Dead

What's that at the bed? It's spooky. Hey, Joky, I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, I said, Nandas.

Please Hey boo, it's me Ras and Welcome to Ghosted by Raz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people that I like about things that make me go.

Peepy in my panties. Oh my god, I'm going to talk to can Boggle from the TV show Living for the Dead, which is now streaming, Oh my god, starting the eighteenth. Yeah, yeah, this episode is out after the show has come out. So did you like it? I mean, I've seen all of the episodes, and the first one that you see is the first one on our road trip. And I think that as the season goes on, you'll see that we really we all really get closer as friends and as teammates. And I think that that show

There.

Actually wasn't any place to stay when we were in Bisbee, Arizona. That's the place when I was like literally looking, I found an Airbnb and then all the reviews were talking about how the place was haunted. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? No, Anyway, I had to stay all night in these haunted places, never once slept. Sometimes I would sleep in the morning or during the daytime if I had time to. But when you watch those episodes, I had not slept sometimes for three days in a row.

I am Uncle Ken. I've realized that I was never going to have children, so I was never going to be a daddy traditionally, right, So I'm just I have adopted a ton of nieces and nephews and they all call me Uncle Ken because I'm always tying up shoelaces or holding doors open, or wapping somebody's snotty nose, helping you down a stoop. You know, I'm just that's what I do. I should have been on full House, I think, you know, before they went nuts, I should have been

Yeah, definitely. On the TV show Living for the Dad, which starts streaming on Hulu the eighteenth of October. You're the uncle of the group for sure.

That makes me so incredibly happy. You have no idea how much that means to me, because, like I've realized last night that I have actually been sad after we wrapped because I've not had enough of you all in my life. Such a bummer.

Oh, because you are in Canentucky, Kentucky. Yeah, like Colonel Sanders.

That famous recipes.

Is original or extra crispy with you?

Now, look I am. I am extra crispy. I've never undercook anything. It is extra crispy over my place.

I want to say before we get too far into this, and please don't tell the others I said this. Okay, you are my favorite person in this cast.

Raul's It's complete and total BS now I know it.

No, it's not. How dare you?

I mean I think you would. I think you would be there for all of us individual and you love us all totally. I totally believe that. But I think your favorite and I'm gonna I'm gonna put your on blast. I think your favorites Juju. I see the way you look at Juju.

Sis I love Juju. I mean, Juju is like just a work of art. Yeah, she's just so gorgeous. Yeah, but she's also somebody that is so powerful, and I'm like, I'm never worried about her, Like I'm just not. She's just so powerful. And I mean I really think that she she brings me so much comfort when we went to like all those spooky ass places where I'm like, Juju will save us.

Yeah, I think I counted twice. Actually three, there's three times that you call out specifically to Juju when you get spooked and scared.

And I'm like, Doug, yeah, we got a demon.

We got a demon. Come on downhill.

You know, let's talk about demons for a second, because you talk about that on the show, and I do talk about it, but I kind of I don't know if it comes off this way when you watch it. But I think people that listened to this podcast would know that I'm very skeptical of all things paranormal, and I don't even know where I'm at on demons. To be honest, I don't know if I believe that that's a real thing. If it's in the biblical sense or whatever.

Yeah. So for me, I grew up Christian, but I converted to Buddhist twelve years twelve years ago last month, and in that I've discovered that demon is a term that's used in both my interest in the other theological paths or spiritual paths in which they're mentioned kicked in. So I started kind of you know how I am, I get obsessed with and start red stringing, and yeah, they'reing like all all kinds of different spiritual or religious paths.

You know, Wait, when you say you've seen people be possessed, like, are you talking like literally you've seen them? Like there's a demon inside of a human.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't often tell the story, but even I myself have a story of possession.

Tell me, tell me, okay.

So it goes like this. When I was fifteen, I met this twenty one year old guy. My parents fodout I was gay and they kicked me out right. So I was homeless at fifteen. So I shack up with this guy. And he was big, beautiful blue eyes, and we were all great and groovy. And he used to take me around when somebody would say, hey, I want to do a reading with Ken, or can Ken come over and like check out my new place or these other things, so he would take me. He took me

Oh my god, but its.

Head was turned toward me.

Stop again, it's scary.

His head was turned toward me, I say, he because it felt definitely masculine. I've never felt a feminine energy that evil before. And when it noticed that I noticed it, it slid down the wall, up the floor and came to the foot of the bed and just hovered. I started to panic. And then that's when it went under the sheets, which I could see the energy coming up through sheets, and it went up through my legs, up through my spine. I felt as if somebody had grabbed

Wait, so the holy oil, it took care of it and never came back again, and never.

No it rears. It's like we had on occasion. I feel like, once it got to know me, it hovers. And that's the one line that you've not seen me draw. And it almost happened in the series Living for the Dead. It almost happened at a particular location, but Juju kind of prayed over me and it pushed it further back.

Wait, so you have a demon that's just hanging out looking at you at all times.

I don't think that he's around all the time. I think that he comes around occasionally. I've since then, meant two other non human entities that I've expelled from people's houses. The others I've seen in church.

You've seen in church? Yeah, what are they doing in there? I feel like that's they're not supposed to be in there.

There was a man who walked naked into a church in southeastern Kentucky, completely off his gourd. They had to deliver him from this evil attachment, like on the spot that Sunday in front of everybody, you know. And I was there when an elderly woman had to be pinned down by the I think it was for guys in a couple of ladies.

She was like, rage, Oh my god, super granny.

Yeah. It wasn't even like a super exorcism, like a legit exorcism. They call it a deliverance. It was a deliverance.

Oh my god, Ken, I feel like you have a thousand stories because how long have you been in this world in the other world?

Thirty one years?

Thirty one years? Yeah, okay, how did it start?

So I'd always been different. I could always tell you who was on the telephone before they would call, or when the phone would ring. And this is before colorad D when we had one phone that was attached to the kitchen wall with a long court ha you know, back then, like I would just know things, and I would be able to interpret dreams. I couldn't see auras and things anyway. It really started in earnest like I

Oh wow, I mean, was she a witch or did she not use that term or what would you say?

She would have never used that term to Granny. It was just southern. This is what southern women do. You know, you're a granny who lives up in the mountains and you make tintures when somebody gets bit by a snake. You make tintres when somebody gets stung behind me. It was she was just an Appalachian grainy witch, That's what she was. But she would have never said the word witch, not ever. No, yeah, yeah, but anyway, that was thirty one years ago.

This is high praise coming from me, Okay, because of the people I know. You're the most dramatic human being.

You are cute me.

The other day you go ross. You are funnier than Lucille.

You are funnier than Lucille Ball.

Okay, you can't say that, the hell I can.

I just did.

Well. I will say you are such a generous laugher. I'm around comedians a lot, and you know it's hard to get a laugh out of a comedian, and you are such a generous laugher that you certainly make me feel funny. And I appreciate that always.

I'll do that always, as long as you'll have me.

And this is why I say you're my favorite in the show. Don't tell the.

Album well secrets safe with me, babe.

So you also are a tarot reader and you gave me no listen. You don't know how many funky girls with a Deck of Cards I have met in my life. I've had a lot of readings in this town of Los Angeles, and I've had some very good ones. My friend Lindsey Cooperman is amazing. I'll just say right now. Upcoming guest Rachel True, one of the stars of the movie The Craft. She's an amazing tarot reader, and she got me good. Ken, you got me good. I think

Oh, Roz, I did not, Roz, Hernandez don't.

I'm kidding. I'm kidding. It was on the House, the Haunted House, and it was good. You did a spread that you called the Mirror. Yeah, I remember that. Let's just talk about Taro for a second, because I think every single episode you give a tarot reading to somebody that is affected by these hauntings, and you definitely get people good. When did the tarot start?

So Taro started thirty one years ago, So the same.

Time did your granny teach you how to do it?

My aunt Caroline came over with the deck of poker cards, like you know, the bicycle deck, okay, And I came went back to Granny's and said, oh look what I can do. You know, I can tell your fortune with the poker cards. And she said, that's cute. Do what big men do and do Tarot is what she called it, tarot tar it. Yeah, my Welsh friends call it tarot as well as a matter of fact. But anyway, she said, here's twenty bucks. We'll go down to the bookstore and

You did something to me where you were like, is this true? And I said something to you again at my skeptical self where I'm like, how often is this true? And you're like always, Or you said something where you were like, this has never been wrong.

Yeah, the mirror is never wrong.

Ever, I couldn't believe it. It was so specific. And that's the thing, Like, you know, I have a lot of thoughts in psychics and tarot and everything, but some people can interpret the tarot in such an intuitive way. That is from my experience otherworldly. And I definitely have seen your psychic abilities. I don't know that on the TV show we see a ton of your like medium abilities, but you have a lot of that too.

I think, like everybody in the world is born with an inherent intuitive gift. I think eventually science will prove it as an evolutionary trait. And in my psychic development classes that I teach, I bring that up first. We are all psychic to some degree, and it is evolutionary. Now, I always tell the same kind of anecdote that back in the day, way way back in the day, when we were all in the bush trying to gather a berry, we had to know if there was something in the

I've actually said this before in the show, like it would be so interesting to have multiple psychics in a location together and see like who picks up what, and like comparing notes that kind of a thing. Were there moments where Logan said something and You're like, yeah, that person was trying to talk to me too.

No, what did happen though? And it happened in the Haunted Desert mansion in the Desert or Haunted Desert.

The place in Scottsdale. Yeah, the mansion with me.

Yeah, yes, So it was the first time I'd ever done it. But Logan and I said in real time, side by side without speaking to each other, and he was doing his psychic readings and writing his answers down. I was doing my psychic tarot readings, writing my answers down, and they just complimented each other beautifully. The thing about psychics is you can get three in a room. You can get three psychics in a room. They're each one

What are your psychic abilities?

I try to keep it very general because I think like I'm pre cognitive and postcognitive. I'm clairvoyant, Claire sinting. Of course, there's impact, like there's all these different things. I'm a big dreamer. I've been studying and developing for thirty one years to the point where I just stopped labeling it.

Right.

Put me anywhere and I will get something. If something is there, I will pick something up. Yeah, so I don't really label them.

Are you picking up anything for me?

Yes? Yes, And your Emmy is on its way. Don't worry, Emmy, you're gonna win an Emmy because you're just gonna be the best community performance in a reality TV series.

I don't think that's a category.

No, no, it's not. And I've looked it up and googled it and I'm furious.

Okay, why do you think that none of my dead people want to talk to me? Am I that annoying.

I think it's like with my experience of those who have passed on, they don't want to talk to you. They don't want you to know that they're there. They don't want to disrupt you. They or they're at peace and they're trying to chill out and they're trying to rest and relax. I guess, or they do try to speak to you in your skeptic mind. The skeptic mind will sometimes explain away responses or will explain away experiences. Like I always explain to people when they're reading with me,

I've had so many readings and stuff that I haven't even talked about on this podcast, but I've had world renowned mediums talk to me and I try to get them to talk to my dead people and never once.

Yeah, they could just be very guarded. I've read for a woman. I've read for a woman once whose husband had been up to no good and he refused to speak to any medium she'd ever been to. And we were locked in this dark office that I had at the time, and I was doing a reading for her, and I got this overwhelming sense of secrets. And you know, when I feel like there's a secret, I got to sauce it out, you know. So we were in there for like an hour and then finally it hit me.

Okay, I guess they won't be offended.

Yeah, I wouldn't.

Ken. Let's just talk about it the TV show a little bit. Okay, what do you think?

I am God's pickiest creature and when it comes to TV and I when it comes to TV.

Your cuss I am I talk about You're so dramatic and I love it.

I'm God's people, I love it.

That's a compliment for.

Me, and I thank you for that. I don't know any other way to be. I'm just a Southern dramatic queen. I think in my blouse and bowler, you know. Anyway. I watch a lot of television, specifically paranormal television, because, like you, a lot of my friends are on these shows. You know, a lot of them are are there and doing that work. And I've known a lot of them for a very long time.

Yeah. And you're like big in that paranormal convention kind of world, like you do a lot of those events and all the paranormal stuff.

Yeah. So I try to support my friends and watch and listen to their stuff. Some of it is amazing, and some of it makes it very clear to me as to what I will never do. I would create a subcategory of I watch paranormal television sometimes with people that I don't care for on it, like Zach Beggins Shots Fired. No, I'm just saying it's just not the way I would do it. He's not the one for me,

Damn well. I think that from having so many years of watching those shows. It is interesting how having done one now it's such a different experience when you're in it. You know, I find myself a little bit less critical as time goes on of those shows now that I've done one, and i've I mean, those are not easy. No, they are not easy to make. They are emotionally exhausting. Yeah, Physically, there's just a lot going on. You know, some of these places that we went to, we're not the most

Yeah. I feel like it broke the mold. They said back in nineteen seventy three when The Exorcist was made, that it hit. It hit everybody in an individual way, completely different than it would hit someone else, you know, but that it hit And I think that's what this does. I mean, is it, you know, a great, big two hour movie. No, it's an eight hour movie and it is just dripping with reality and dripping with horror in real horror moments. I mean me in a clown motel.

Drama, drama, What was the scariest place you went to?

Okay, scary in like the physical surroundings clown motel?

Well, yeah, and again I'm trying not to take offense to that because my father is a professional clown.

Yeah.

I was a professional clown as a child. I love clowns.

Since the show, though, you'll be proud of me. The other night, I said and watched Stephen King's h the whole way through. Didn't even I mean I flinched. I got up sometimes to go to you know, get a piece of pizza or Cavadaiko.

Yeah, but you act think that's a horror movie. That is a sweet movie about a clown trying to trying to bond with some children in a very innocent way.

Yes, let's rip another arm off Georgie and see how that it's horrific.

That's how some clowns say, Hi, you have to understand you're talking about my culture here, this is my heritage.

I'm so sorry, Ross. Please accept my apologies.

Thank you.

I didn't mean to be insensitive. I will just say that that I'm working on it and I am developing a I'm growing period. I'm growing, thank you, spiritually or like pureanormally. The scariest place that we were in had to be the Copper Queen.

Same.

Yeah, that was horrific, but I'm really bummed out there wasn't a camera there when I came to knock on your door one night.

Let's tell the story.

You tell it.

In total defense of the entire team that worked on the show. We shot so many hours and there's five of us, and there's so many things that went on, so you know you're not gonna always see every single moment, right, But this night in particular was so fucking scary. Basically, long story short, CJ and I were fucking terrified after just non stop dread. That's the only word that ever came to mind when I was at the Copper Queen

I'm sorry I was staying in that bedroom with that demon and I couldn't sleep because of the trigger object kept going off, and I wanted to get with somebody so I wasn't alone. I got out of the room, went down the hall and kind of scurried by all the doors just to see if I could hear anybody. Then I heard you and Siege and I was like, oh my god, they're in there, and so I just tapped. I was just like I was like froze, and then and then I said CEJ and then like I heard

I mean, yeah, we were an armful of frozen turkeys of that moment. We were so scared because other unexplainable things that didn't have an explanation that were I believe to be paranormal happened in that night. And I remember there was like crazy when that night and my shutters were literally like coming off the wall and banging back.

It was just dread Yeah, that is a palpable feeling from the Copper Queen. It is dreadful, and it's so heavy and dark. And to find out I was sleeping in a bedroom where something very tragic had happened. I yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't period. I just could not period. And there and went to go look for my friends and they're just all shacked up in a room having the ki ky of their lives. Yeah, I'm moments from

You're so lucky that we didn't open the door and me with that high heel, I didn't just kick you right in the fucking face, because that is my reaction. If I would have had a super soaker filled with holy water, you would have gotten it. You would have been blasted into the next dimension. Now I realize that next season I'm gonna have one of those, just to be safe.

Just in case Kin comes knocking around in season two?

Ken, do you want to hear some ghost voices?

I have waited for you to ask me that question for the longest time.

Yes, please, it's time for evp or ev pase. All right, Ken, as a listener of this show, you already know this. But for anyone new around here, what I do is I go to the internet. I find alleged ghost voices people believe they've captured a ghost saying some shit. I'm gonna play them for you, okay, and I want you to tell me what you hear. Then I'll give you a couple of options, one of them being the correct answer of what the ghost hunter believes the ghost is saying.

Okay, Pissed Ghosts.

That's amazing.

I love that this was recorded at the Waverly Hills a Atorium, which is a place that you and I went to on the TV show What is this ghost?

Saying? It's a faint voice. It kind of sounds like a parrot, might be a cockatoo that someone brought with them ghost hunting. A lot of background noise. But let's listen again. Yeah, let me try it again. Any guesses?

No, I don't have any guesses. Off hid It's so faint, isn't it. It's like the front noise is so hard to hear past. What are the options?

Okay? Is it a calling doctor Marcus? Is it b I got my doc.

Martin's okay, which I wore.

Yeah, is it C, I'm not your mother, or is it D I'm not can Boggle, which is something that only can Boggle would say. So I'm not convinced entirely that you weren't there.

Yeah, it's actually I don't think any of them. But I thought it said it's not what you're here for.

Oh well that is not an option, So I'm going to go with D i Am not kim Boggle. They believe it's a calling doctor Marcus. Let me play it again.

Okay.

They think it's like over a pa kind of like the ghost of which is possible. Maybe there was a doctor Marcus. That it is an old tuberculosis sanatorium.

Yeah. The idea that it's coming from a pa is is very kind of poignant. I can get with that.

I think it's coming from a pa are our ot. I really think that that is a macaw that flew by and said I'm not your mother. Okay, here's another one. This was posted on YouTube by mister Tenacious One, and this is just a random one. I apologize there's not really much connection here, okay, but this is at Union Station in Ogden, Utah. What is this gousseeg cabboggle A more whispery one? Yeah, it sounds like a whisper of somebody right next to an ac unit. All right, let's

No guess?

All right? Is it A? What bands don't you like? Is it B? Is that what you like? Is it C I tried to touch the light or D my pants are too tight?

I think it's B.

Do you think it's B? Which is is that what you like? Yeah, they believe it's C. I tried to touch the light.

Oh, let's hear it again.

Yeah, I hear that.

I think we should have also had E. Let's just be friends.

I think you're confusing that with what I've said to you multiple times.

Stop, we can still be friends. That's what that goes to, saying we can still be friends.

Can you have told me that you're deeply, madly in love with me? That's another thing that you've said to me.

It is absolutely true. I feel like we're the best thing since divorced Sonny and Share.

You know, we kind of look like them a little bit. We do in some crazy way.

Next Halloween, next hall a queen party we throw. We gotta be Sonny and Share. I will shave my beard for that.

Ooh, I would love to be sure for Halloween. Speaking of me, what was your favorite moment with me when we shot the TV show?

I have three favorite moments. I'll do them really quick because I no, we only have an hour and I'm so sorry.

Three listen. If it's about me, we have time. Keep them coming.

It's okay, okay, cheers. One when you pushed me down to get away from the demon.

Where was that? Oh that was at Waverley Hills.

That's iconic.

I did push you down. I think it's in the final like it is in.

The final, it's briefly.

Yeah.

The other one is you and any time you've had a donut near your mouth hole anytime?

Yeah. I do eat a lot of donuts on the show, and I to make it clear to everyone watching at home, that is real. I really I swallowed. Yes, Okay, a lot of times when people eat donuts on TV shows, they have a spit bucket. You don't see that part. I swallowed every single inch of every donut.

And then licked your fingers.

I licked the box.

You sure did. But the thing I just saw last night that is the number one is when you're at the Palomino and you got dragged because of your hair. Your reaction to that I left my body. I just lost it.

That was when we went to the strip club, the legendary Palomino in Las Vegas, and everybody was having ghosts experiences but me, And once again I was like, why don't ghosts have any interest in me? I used to feel like ghosts loved me, and then I realized I don't think those were ghosts. I think I was. I got medicated, but at this point in my life don't want anything to do with me. And I was like,

And your reaction it's chef's kiss, like it is so good. I actually got up and just walk down the hallway laughing. My ass off chef's kiss. You're iconic.

Thank you, But like, what's like your favorite moment from just like the eight months, whether it's on the TV show or not, Like stuff that we did together. That was fun because you know, I love to talk to paranormal TV show people about like what do you guys do when you're not like hunting ghosts and you're still out there doing the show.

This is going to be very anticlimactic for anybody who isn't me, so sorry, y'all.

Great, all right, well that's at least four million people.

My favorite moment, My favorite moment was when we were in Scottsdale and we were doing the Slayance as you termed it, and I held your hand and when the chandelier shook a little it kind of swayed. You grabbed hold a little tighter with your hand in mind, and it made me feel like you believe that I was

Oh can god, I'm good at faking it. Yes, Now, you're so lovable. You're such a lovable person, Ken, Yes, man, I am so honored to get to share this experience with you of being on a TV show. It's crazy. I can't believe we did it, but we did.

Yes, ma'am.

We got to work together, we got to meet each other, and I'm sad to say I will never talk to you again. After we get off the Zoom.

Ros hernand Dance. You almost hit me emotional. I almost had a little moment where I got teary eyed because I thought you were going to say something sweet. I should have known better. I should have just known better.

I apologize, Ken, but we will not be airing this episode. This was my way of saying goodbye. I want it to be clear that it's very fun to bully Ken, because you have such a lovable laugh and you know that I'm joking and anytime someone as sweet as can be, I like to knock them down a few pegs.

I love you making fun of me.

You're so fun to make finne Hey tell people where you want to find you what you got going on.

You can go to Kenboggle dot com. If you want to contact me for conventions or something like that, you can do so on the contact page. If you like to have a reading, which I do private readings, either in person, on phone or video, you can go to the readings page and fill out the contact form there and my new assistant will be in touch.

Also, if anyone happens to be in a gas station in the Kentucky area, go to the hot dog area. This is not an nuendo. No, Ken Boggle loves a gas station hot dog, and on at least one occasion, I was in a car with you with the windows rolled up because it was cold out, and the smell that was coming from that backseat has not left my nose. I do not like the smell of hot dogs or ketchup or pickles or any of that.

I eat them naked. I just love a good plane. Just a roller dog baby right between the bun Oh.

I thought you were saying you get naked when you eat those.

No, I eat, you know, hot dogs naked without anything on them.

You know you made it sound like you get fully naked when you eat a gas station hot dog raws.

I did not make it.

Guess you did. You said I eat gas station hot dogs naked?

Said I eat them naked? I would. Now I hear it, Now I hear it. Yes, okay, my apologies.

So to be clear for the record, Ken Boggle does not get butt naked and gas stations and start eating hot dogs.

I wait until I get home, like anybody else who is brought up right.

And then you take off all your clothes.

Oh my god, just mean a bowler hat.

Ken, This is inappropriate.

I've loved it. Thank you for having me.

Hey, thanks for doing it.

Ken, It's my pleasure, baby.

Bye bye. Thank you so much to Ken Boggle and his hats. You know he was wearing one of those hats when we were talking. Hey, check out the show. It's called Living for the Dead and it is streaming now on Hulu. Tell your friends about it. Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. I love you all, both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt mekay By. This has been an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal experience