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Kara Klenk Wonders If Ghosts Are Just Pale Guys

Jul 29, 202457 min
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It’s Ghosted! News Network Day and Roz welcomes back maverick comedian, writer, actor, and co-host of That’s Messed Up, Kara Klenk! With the utmost poise, the two deliver headlines from the outer limits of reality—a cat with a talent for deadly predictions, a mysterious flood at a Titanic exhibit, and the “asparamancer” Jemima Packington, asparagus wielding psychic!

This episode was recorded before President Joe Biden’s decision to withdraw his bid for reelection.

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Speaker 1

What's that at the bed spooky? Hey, Judy, I'm pretty sure it's dead. He's coming in this way. Wait a minute, house, you said, I loss Nandez. Please hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal. Oh my god, I got to talk to my friend Kara Klank, who you, of course know from the Exactly

Right podcast That's Messed Up. Kara is always so fun on the show, and invited her back and we do a little a little news story day where I cover some of the most important topics in the world. Of course, they're all about really wild, crazy psychics and ghosts and all that kind of stuff. Before we get to that, let me tell you I do have a couple of dates coming up on the road where I'm talking about things that are not ghosts and I'm making them funny.

I'm going to be in La at Largo on the twelfth of August and that is at linktree dot com slash ros Hernandez for tickets, And I'm also going to be soon in Raleigh, North Carolina, and also Philly, and then later in the year Portland. I'm working on some more. Don't worry, I'm working on it. I'll be at some other places. Ooh, should I tell you a story? This one I found in my email. I was so happy to read it because it's a New York ghost story

and it comes from me. H Mia writes, you have mentioned a few times about how you don't hear ghost stories based in New York, and so I had to write in I've been living in Brooklyn my whole life, and a theory I have about why there aren't more ghost sightings is because there is simply too much noise constantly happening that you can write it off. Weird scratches on the walls, probably a rodent issue, marble rolling sounds from the ceiling, neighbor doing weird neighbor activities. But I

had an experience that cannot be written off. I lived in a railroad apartment in Bushwick for eight years. Originally I moved in with an X, but after he moved out, I moved the bedroom from the front of the house to the middle room right off the kitchen. One night, God, I always love that part. Every time every story, there's always one night I woke up to see an apparition of a young young man pointing to the fireplace behind

the stove, just standing there blankly and stillly pointing. Normally, you would think this would shock you awake, but I didn't feel any threatening presence, just like he was trying to tell me something, and I was able to drift back to sleep. Definitely weird, and I would think about it often. A year later, both events took place in December. I saw him again, this time hanging from the rafters in the kitchen, and this time I was freaked out. I turned all the lights on and did not go

back to sleep. What hanging from the rafters? What makes this more mysterious is that when we originally moved in, my ex googled the address to make sure we had it correct, and a news story pops up about our building. The story is that in the n nineties the building was owned by an older gentleman who took in sex workers and drug addicts, and it goes into much detail about the dilapidated condition of the building and all the people coming and going. God bless New York landlords, throwing

up some fresh drywall and calling it a day. I can't help but to think this young man met his demise in the building and is definitely trying to get some answers about something. Who knows. I moved out years ago, but it still comes to my mind often. Mia, Thank you so much for sending that weird and it's so interesting how it happens like on like the anniversary or something. For some reason, a significant time in December is when it pops back out and he's pointing at fireplaces and

hanging from rafters. That's a good one. Thank you. I love a New York ghost story. All right, let's talk to Kara Klank and with the show back back back again.

Speaker 2

It's Kara Klank, Hello, ros, thank you for having me back.

Speaker 1

Hi. I see you on zoom. Are you topless? You look like you're topless.

Speaker 2

I'm topless. I'm also like, like, I like a skin colored body suit, so I do kind of look topless.

Speaker 1

No, but your hair was covering the straps, so all I see.

Speaker 2

Is like show and that's kind of fun too. I look like I've in like the remember the herbal essences like commercials where the women would just like have orgasms over their shampoo in the shower. I kind of look like I'm channeling that. You know, I'm just having an orgasm to be here. I'm so excited.

Speaker 1

Your hair is gorgeous as always, and you're not topless, but you are back to talk about ghosts and all. The last time you were on, you were with your co host Liza Tragger, Yes, and we talked about an alien abduction.

Speaker 2

Yes, yes, yes, which was really cool.

Speaker 1

And then also I saw Netflix has like this new show. Damn it, I forgot what it's called, something like not Unsolved Mysteries, but something like that, and they did an episode about that abduction.

Speaker 2

Oh that same thing.

Speaker 1

Yeah, oh Okaycagoula.

Speaker 2

Because I remember one of the guys was hot, so hot.

Speaker 1

I'm telling you, I'm seeing a trend as I'm diving deeper into alien abductions. It is so often hot early twenties in shape men well throughout history that this has been reported since like you know, fifties, sixty, seventies, eighties. It's like hot young men.

Speaker 2

So interesting, like you'd think they would just be taking like women. I don't know.

Speaker 1

When they want the seed honey.

Speaker 2

Yeah, seed, but who's but then who's there's like an alien mom on the other end, who's yes, Okay.

Speaker 1

There's mixed children hybrid up in the sky that are biracial by species. Whatever.

Speaker 2

Do you think there's any possibility that when a sort of maybe not as photogenic person comes to the news with their alien abduction story, the news doesn't give a ship and that they are paying more attention to the hotties that are Like I was just sitting there counting my abs and suddenly, you know, I just you know, you know me. I'm a skeptic, so I'm just I'm just wondering, I'm looking at all sides.

Speaker 1

Well, I am telling also would make sense.

Speaker 2

If they're trying to take our best, our best physical specimens.

Speaker 1

Yeah, And it's it's kind of like when really hot guys get arrested and then like their mugshots start going viral and it's like at this guy and then you find out he's like horrible, but like we're all talking about it because he's so hot. Yeah, yeah, same thing.

Speaker 2

Sometimes I don't agree. Like the guy from a few years ago, like twenty eighteen or something, who was going around with maybe like a teardrop tattoo. He was very hot. He was like extraordinarily hot. Remember yes, but then, like I mean, not necessarily a mugshop, but like when people talk about Ted Bundy being hot, I'm like, come on, you guys, now, it's like you and a brow like creepy people.

Speaker 1

Will do that with so many of these people will do that with Jeffrey Dump like girls like you're reaching, you're reaching for okay for someone that killed forty people. They're not the ugliest person in the world. Shit, but they're not hot and you need to knock it off. Yeah, if you want to see hot, go up to Mars. You'll see some of our hottest Americans. They are up

there right now. Okay, So what I thought we should do today is a little ghosted News Network day because I only cover the most important news that we all need to know about on the show. I don't identify as a journalist, but sometimes i have to report these really important stories, and so I've got a handful of them, many of these thank you ghosted listeners they have sent me. And I have a woman that makes predictions with eighty

percent accuracy using asparagus. I have a psychic who is a hot young lady who says she can't go out to clubs anymore because all of the people at the club, they're dead relatives are trying to get her to give them messages. I've got a hat that's in a hospice that uh predicts when people are about to die. And then I've also got a mysterious flood that happened at a Titanic museum, which one of those stands out to you, Oh my.

Speaker 2

God, well the Titanic Museum, I mean the cat thing sounds like I've heard that before. Like dogs can kind of smell someone that's gonna die, right or like ew, there's something going on, like they can just feel it or smell it or I don't know, I've heard that.

Speaker 1

Well that's the thing. It's like dogs love garbage. Yeah, and so it's like, I mean, I hate to put it this way, but like if your body's like rotting or like shutting down, they're probably like they yeah, yeh me.

Speaker 2

Or like they literally train dogs also, I think to like, am I making this up? Like if you have diabetes, there's like dogs that can like smell when your blood sugar is like low, and like really like there's nervous dogs like they're trained for that. Oh that's brilliant, my like crazy, it's possible. I don't know that diabetes service dog training train a diabetic alert dog, like it comes right up in Google, like these are things diabetic service dogs.

So I can't imagine if you can train it for that, you can, But a cat is a little spookier.

Speaker 1

I've been looking at rescue dogs and there's this dog that is so cute and it was born with no eyes, but he's so cute. Well, he's so cute, yes, And the part of the reason why like it works is because he has bangs. So he's like a little scruffy dog and he has little bangs over his eye holes.

And I talked to the adoption place and they were saying that they put like a little harness on him that has like a thing that goes over his head so that if he bumps into walls, like when he first goes to a place before he like gets the lay of the land. Yeah, And they were telling me about how, like how his senses are so like he can smell and hear really good because he has always been.

Speaker 2

Blind and for him, that's what life is. Life does not involve sight, like life totally around.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but it's so a Disney movie because it's like he is probably the one in the runt that was born without eyeballs. He's probably the cutest one on the run. He's so cute, like truly like commercially attractive dog. And then like all the other dogs in his litter were probably like you can see or whatever. And then like he gets adopted by like this gorgeous television star and then he like he lives.

Speaker 2

The life, who also has bangs?

Speaker 1

Who also has bangs? Wait a second, I gotta pull up this picture. I actually emailed them yesterday to see if this dog is still available. This is a paranormal podcast, right, Okay, good, I need to get back to that.

Speaker 2

Look at this Ah. That is a cute dog.

Speaker 1

Bangs.

Speaker 2

He is cute.

Speaker 1

Okay, So let's look at Oscar the psychic cat. First.

Speaker 2

My son's name is Oscar.

Speaker 1

Ah.

Speaker 2

This is such a key a psychic cat.

Speaker 1

This is from an article on upworthy dot com from this past December, written by Annie Renault. And so, there's a nursing and rehabilitation center called the Steer House in Providence, Rhode Island, And there is a Jerryatrician and Brown University health researcher named doctor David Dosa, who worked at the Steerhouse, and he's witnessed this cat doing this so much, predicting who's about to die. He wrote a book about it. He said, quote, Oscar was initially sort of a very

scared cat. He wouldn't really like to come out. He would keep to himself. Oftentimes you'd find him in the supply closet or under a bed somewhere. But then as he started to warm up, he would continuously visit the same person and get in their bed and start cuddling with them. And they started noticing after he did that, the person would die. And they really started taking notice after about twenty or thirty patients died after he did these little visits. So they started to call family members

if Oscar the cat was cuddling with the patient. And they interviewed this article a family member of a resident who died, and they said, it's not that we trusted the cat more than the nurse. Not exactly. It was, well, there was something about Oscar. He just seemed to be convinced of what he was doing. He was so clear and his intention and his dedication. Here's my theory I think the cat was killing people. Did they ever check the tubes that were keeping people alive if he was chewing on him.

Speaker 2

They were just gnawed through. Yeah. I mean, look, Oscar does have a Wikipedia page. I am on it.

Speaker 1

I don't have a book written about me. I don't have a Wikipedia page. I think after the first time it happened, he got smart and wanted fame.

Speaker 2

Okay, but this is also at a hospice, right, No one's really walking out of this place.

Speaker 1

That is true. But basically like within twenty four hours, if he's in your bed, you're gone.

Speaker 2

Time to call your family and tell them to come. Saygobay, yes, says he accurately predicted a hundred deaths. That's wild.

Speaker 1

Well, he himself did die in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 2

So I wonder if a cat came up to him. OOO, another cat was like, it's my.

Speaker 1

Turn, yes, past the crown. Seventeen years he was at the Steerhouse, and the book that was written about him is called Making Rounds with Oscar Colon The Extraordinary Gift of an Extraordinary Cat by doctor David Dosa md uh. It also does say in here that research shows that both cats and dogs have the ability to smell illness and disease in humans, So it's possible that he could, you know, smell some chemical changes.

Speaker 2

Wait, you know how Wikipedia pages like always put when something is like listed in like public like pop culture, like public life or whatever. Somebody in Italy wrote a children's book about Oscar, which I don't think we need. I don't think we need that. But he's been referenced in the Simpsons.

Speaker 1

Really, okay, he's famous.

Speaker 2

There's a cat in a Stephen King book that Stephen King said it was inspired by Oscar in Doctor Sleep, the sequel to The Shining What So this is a famous fucking cat.

Speaker 1

Oh my god. We don't know if he was responsible for any of these one hundred deaths, but and it's hard to say was he predicting the deaths or was he just was it a coincident? I don't know.

Speaker 2

I would be interested in the data, like I would be interested in like how many times did he go up to somebody get in their bed and then they didn't die for another like two months? You know, like were there any like that? Or are we just counting the ones where he died? Because if we're at a hospice It's like, guys, a broken clock is right twice a day, like he's gonna be hitting It's like shooting fish in a barrel for him to be predicting deaths at a hospice, that's true, you know, but a hundred

is a lot is a pretty big number. So see.

Speaker 1

But if I worked like at the front desk at this hospice and all of a sudden oscar like jumped on my lap, I'd be like, get the fuck out, agre, get.

Speaker 2

Out of here. Yeah, but I don't think it's like he knows that you're gonna get hit by a car later. He only can just smell.

Speaker 1

But what if he does, I don't know. He is basically the grim Reaper is what was happening. Anyway, Let's move on to this flood that mysteriously happened at a Titanic exhibit.

Speaker 2

Yes, I want to hear this one.

Speaker 1

It actually even made it to the Today Show and Hoda Kapi was covering at Hoda. It's at the Volo Museum, which is in Chicago area. I got some research from NBC five, which is in Chicago. Basically, they got this six million dollar Titanic exhibit and this flood happened. Now there was recent storms in Chicago, but the workers there are like, this is really strange because the building they haven't had a flood in forty years. They thoroughly inspected everything.

There was no broken pipes, roof leaks, or any obvious points of entry for such a large amount of water. Brian gam who's the museum director, heels who said even the perimeter of the building with a concrete floor was dry with no evidence of cracks or holes. The flood is a total mystery. They did get it on surveillance camera, and I mean you could just basically see water coming in. But it's a little it is creepy. There is a nineteen twelve car, a Renault French concept car. There's only

two that were ever produced. One of them was on the Titanic. Didn't make it out that they didn't say women, children and old cars.

Speaker 2

No women and children and vanity cars.

Speaker 1

First, that car is gone, but the other one is at this museum and that's kind of like the focal point of the water or like a sort of went under that car.

Speaker 2

Oh that's spooky. Yeah, they can't tow where the water came in. Like water leaves a pretty clear trail of like damage in its wake for you to know where it came from.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's it's weird. It's apparently they've had other paranormally things happen at this museum. I mean, I imagine museums. It's like you probably have so many things that are like old cursed objects and whatever, like you probably out all kinds of shit in there. But it's strange. I don't know, is it like the ghosts of the Iceberg coming back or I don't know, I don't know how many objects they have. Yeah, that would have been from the actual Titanic.

Speaker 2

Yeah, like the sister car of the Titanic is kind of like a tenuous link. But yeah, it is freaky that they can't figure out where it came from. Like no foundation leaks, like nothing like just water. I mean I obviously quickly googled this too, But the security footage I'm seeing is just distilled. Have you seen actual video of like.

Speaker 1

Yeah, water life. You see the car and then you see the water just creep in. It's not like you see where the water started. You just kind of see it creep into frame.

Speaker 2

That's cree I don't know, you know, I'm like a skeptic, but this is like very creepy to me that water would just appear out of nowhere in a Titanic museum.

Speaker 1

It was to a point where the flooding forced the museum to close temporarily, or at least that exhibit.

Speaker 2

Like, maybe there's some ghosts they must have. If it's a Titanic museum, they must have a couple of items from the Titanic, Right, maybe a ghost came to get her like fucking suitcase or whatever that they stole and they have on display, And was like, you know what, let's flood this joint. They're trying to make a spectacle out of my death.

Speaker 1

I mean, I feel so bad for I feel so bad for the Titanic and it's survivors for a variety of reasons, but one of them is because I sadly mainly just know the fictionalized movie. Yeah, so I'm just kind of sitting here thinking about like Jack and Rose, like those people didn't even exist, right.

Speaker 2

No, No, I mean there are people in the movie that are based on real people, Like I think Kathy Bates's character is based on like the unsinkable Molly Brown or whatever, Like, I think that's a real person that she's based on. I don't know if Jack and Rose like there was a real romance that crossed like socioeconomic borders on the boat, you know, Like, I don't think that any of that's real.

Speaker 1

That's a great story, though.

Speaker 2

Sure is. I mean I cried like a little baby in the theater when I saw Titanic.

Speaker 1

Oh my god, I just saw an interview with Selene saying that that was a one take demo, that song, her vocals.

Speaker 2

Oh it's since she's so I want to watch I want to watch that. I am Selene thing.

Speaker 1

That is paranormal that she could just like throw that out there real quick and just one take. Yeah, yep, that was it. I'm the first time I've ever done it. Go for it and then it becomes what it was, paranormal.

Speaker 2

That like that like crescendo with the like yo. You know, I know we can't sing on exactly right podcasts because I have one and I'm never allowed to sing on it. But wait, this is reminding me of have I ever talked to you about this show that my husband and I watch called Evil?

Speaker 1

I think? Tell me about it?

Speaker 2

So it started on CBS, which is so wild because I think of CBS as just like shows for kind of old Republicans or whatever in like Ohio. But like, this show is about these three people, a priest, a psychologist, and then like sort of a tech guy and aus If Mondvi's on it, and we actually just had him on our podcast interviewed him and I was like, oh

my god, I'm such an evil head whatever. And they are basically sort of like religious ghost hunters a little bit like they are they go to places they perform exorcisms and stuff, but they'll also go places where something weird is happening that's got a sort of a religious

slant to it, like stigmata or whatever. They and they solve it, and sometimes it's kind of like, what the hell happened this person was possessed, But sometimes it's also like the tech guy figures out like, oh, there's a nearby plant that was causing this kind of you know, like sometimes there is a real reason for it. And this Titanic Museum thing feels like something that this gang

would be sent out to solve. Like even it's like not religious, but just a flood out of nowhere feels like a Jesus thing almost like I don't know this, Yeah.

Speaker 1

Like where does the water come from? I mean, I guess the good news if water can come from nowhere, I'm not that afraid of a drought at some point, because I guess it can just appear. You just got to conjure up the ghosts of the Titanic and they'll make it come out of nowhere.

Speaker 2

But I recommend you watch it, Roz, because I think you would really like it.

Speaker 1

That actually sounds right up my alley.

Speaker 2

I like that there's long term storylines and then there's short just like quick stories that they solve in one episode, but then there's like a bigger story happening. It's like the Devil and it. Like, you know, I'm not a religious person, and I also don't really like horror, but

there's like we stuff in this. So after two seasons I believe, or three seasons on CBS, it's on Paramount Plus now, but it's in its final season, so right there's only three or four seasons total, and we're watching the final season right now, and I think you would love it.

Speaker 1

Okay, I'll check it out.

Speaker 2

Lots of paranormal you're.

Speaker 1

Reminding me that we need to. I don't think I've ever covered stigmata on this show, which is oh, yes, so weird. There's a couple of stories that I've looked into in the past, and if anyone listening doesn't know, it's like, I mean, it's a Catholic belief of like a person gets chosen and they start to have basically physical symptoms of Jesus's crucifixion. Yes, and it often has like holes in their hands or like wounds in their

hands start appearing. I think there's a lot of times where people, you know, it might have been self inflicted.

Speaker 2

But well, I grew up I grew up Jewish, so knowing nothing about this. And then a movie called Stigmatic came out in nineteen ninety nine with Patricia Arcat yes and a bunch of people. Gabriel Byrne is like, and I remember being like, what is this word? What is stigmata? And so like I remember looking it up when I was, you know, like a teenager to be like, what, you know, what does this mean?

Speaker 1

I just remember that movie. There's like a lady holding a baby and then she like drops it across the street and then Patricia Arcat like runs whatever, that's all I remember. Here's another story. This one might be my favorite one. Okay, okay, this was posted on lad Bible. This is a British story. Do you know lad Bible.

Speaker 2

Well, lad Bible is always on my Instagram page with like funny videos of people doing stupid shit totally like they always are, or like or like a kid saying something funny. Like they just have like classically viral videos all the time.

Speaker 1

Very viral stuff. Yeah, and it's a British organization.

Speaker 2

Oh it's British. That's why it's lad Bible.

Speaker 1

I think it's like a thing.

Speaker 2

Lads are like bros, like just a couple of lads bros dudes.

Speaker 1

Yeah, exactly. But nonetheless, these are real stories that have been you know, reported. Okay, so this is from an article that was in December, so I'm a little late on this news story. I apologize. It says psychic who predicted Queen's death using asparagus reveals her predictions for twenty twenty four. Her name is Jemima Packington h. I've looked it up. There's been other articles about her. She appears to be a real woman, though, I just the name Jemima Packington.

Speaker 2

That's such a great fucking name.

Speaker 1

That sounds like at the groundlings when someone's like comes up with a fake name real quick, I'm Jemima Packington. But it's great. I love you, Jemimah if you're listening, and please tell me what your asparagus tells you.

Speaker 2

Jmima's a cute name, and I feel like in the US because of Aunt Mama, we kind of don't have it, but in the UK it's like a I think that's a pretty popular name over there.

Speaker 1

Jemima Packington is just such a good name. It's a strong name. I think, yes. Anyway, So she basically does this thing that you know, a lot of people do this with different things. I will say, my dear sister Juju from Living for the Dead, the TV show I'm on, she does a similar thing with shells, oh, where she throws shells like you know, throws them down on a table and then she can read what the spirits are telling her. And I have seen her do this with you know, pretty astounding result.

Speaker 2

Interesting.

Speaker 1

So what Jemima Packington does is she takes asparagus spears and she throws them in the air and then depending on how they land, she's able to predict the future. I originally said eighty percent. No, it's seventy five percenties.

Speaker 2

Okay, okay, still three out of four asparagus tosses leads to a correct prediction.

Speaker 1

I guess so she it's a family kind of thing gift that she has. She has an aunt that used to do this with tea leaves, which is another, you know, popular thing that people.

Speaker 2

I was gonna say, tea leaves is the only one I've really heard of in terms of like reading an object to do, you know, besides tarot cards or whatever.

Speaker 1

I mean, here's my thought on this, because I like to entertain the idea that anything is possible. I think if you have psychic abilities, you could literally use anything, you know. I think for some people, yeah, like the tea leaves are what works best for their like, I don't know. I don't know how you figure this out. Oh I had a bunch of asparagus in my hands and then I tripped and they flew up in the air, and I looked down and it said, the Queen's gonna die.

I don't know how she figured this out, but she says she's usually about seventy five to ninety percent accurate.

Speaker 2

Okay.

Speaker 1

She says, I go through my predictions each year and I think, Yep, that's happened. Yep, that's happened. She says. My technique has not changed, and I still cast the asparagus spears and interpret the patterns in them, seeing the patterns for me as instantaneous. Possibly that is because I've had years of practice. She predicted Boris Johnson would become Prime Minister about four years before he did, and everyone laughed their socks off at her crazy asparagus lady.

Speaker 2

This article I'm looking at calls her the world's only a sparamancer, Yes, which I think is a great little nickname.

Speaker 1

Totally. Now, she does have some predictions for twenty twenty four. Again, this came out in December. She basically says that she thinks Harry and Megan are going to have a separation divorce. Oh damn. A lot of these are very you know, British. But one thing in here that I'm gonna I'm gonna hold on to. She says that the United States in twenty twenty four is going to have their first ever female president.

Speaker 2

Uh okay, that's interesting.

Speaker 1

Another thing she says I mean a lot of them are kind of general things. Mental health and well being will continue to be an important cause what I think it should be more important, But.

Speaker 2

People are still gonna care about living and being mentally healthy.

Speaker 1

Wow. Yeah, world opinions will change regarding the events in the middle ease.

Speaker 2

Well, Okay, it seems like she's also doing a lot of like soccer predicting, which of course England loves.

Speaker 1

Yes, a lot of that, which means nothing to me. Influencer culture will dampen as people focus on reality. Now, that is actually interesting. I do think that with such horrible things happening around the world, particularly the past six months or so, I do feel like the world has calmed down with certain things like person to person dramas or like canceling people because of a joke they made, or like all this kind of shit like has kind

of calmed down. And I think it's because we've got real problems to deal with, like real serious problems.

Speaker 2

Yeah, maybe that's that.

Speaker 1

One thing she did say was well paid TV personalities will lose their jobs. Don't like the sound of that, but that's about it. Okay, Let's do this last one, which is this girl who is a psychic and she can't go out.

Speaker 2

Because spirits keep trying to fucking slow dance with her at the club.

Speaker 1

So this was also on lad Bible, and this was a recent one from June seventeenth by Joe Harker. And she's a gorgeous blonde gal and her name is Zarah Fleming. Do you know about Chris Fleming, Well, you know comedy's Chris Fleming.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, the comedian Chris Fleming.

Speaker 1

There's another Chris Fleming who's a famous psychic.

Speaker 2

Oh no, I don't know about him.

Speaker 1

And two times now my team has set out to book the television psychic, Chris Fleming, and then we get this other person with the glasses and the curly hair, silly as can be. Not the psychic. We're working on that.

Speaker 2

Oh he's so funny, Yes, I know, I love it, But he's not a psychic. That's so funny.

Speaker 1

I'm just kidding. We always want that one. So Zarah Fleming. Of course, those articlasses start out with She's claimed her nights out are being ruined by spirits, but not the ones you'd buy at a bar. Basically, these spirits. She goes out with her friends, they constantly have to switch locations because she is having ghosts come up to her as she's drinking more and more and they say, hey,

I have a message for my loved one. And she says her gifts woke up about five years ago, but she has since learned that she can turn off the switch for talkative ghosts who seemingly want her to drink up and get to the next bar. It's a family tradition. I think her parents had these skills and they died a few years ago, and then she really started to get this skill.

Speaker 2

So it doesn't happen at like the coffee shop, it doesn't happen at the grocery store. It only happened bends with like a pulsating Tiesto soundtrack. That's it, I think.

Speaker 1

So. I mean, I think she has this psychic ability, but it's just there's so many people at these clubs or whatever that it's just it just becomes overwhelming. She said, I tried to ignore it. If I tried to ignore it, the voice would say the same thing, or get louder and be more persistent. I would never tell my friends why I wanted to go to a particular bar. I would say look, guys, I don't want to go here. Shall we go to the next place? Because I had

this compulsion to go in there. Once I got there, I realized why when I bumped into someone, I had something to tell. It's been a mixed response when I've approached strangers. Sometimes they're taken aback, and sometimes it did scare people, but it's a very welcome response in a majority of cases. Yeah, I mean I think about that a lot, with these psychics, just going up to somebody and being like, hey, you know your mom died, like she's telling me you need to go home, or like

I don't know. Yeah, I've said this before. I am curious about how successful it would be if I was going up to like hot guys at the club and being like, Hey, I know this is weird, but I'm a psychic and your grandmother is telling me that you and I would be a perfect match. I don't know, it's weird, but you had a grandma right right? Yeah?

Speaker 2

Right?

Speaker 1

Does she have like white right? Yeah? When she was older. Yeah, So she's telling me that the two of us are just like meant to be.

Speaker 2

Like what if it's just this girl gets wasted and then it's just sort of like pale guys coming up to her and being like, I have a message for your friend. I'd like dwell with her, and she's like, oh, stop, leave me alone, goes. But it's just pale, ugly eyes like this headline too, Goes. Her night gets out, gets ruined by spirits forcing her to down her drinks. It's like, bitch, are you just like looking for an excuse of why you're getting so bombed at night?

Speaker 1

I mean that is a thing to be like, I don't know.

Speaker 2

Why I drank so many martinis. There's these ghosts were just telling me to hurry up and get to the next spot.

Speaker 1

Like she said, after her parents died, her father told her to lock the door to stop someone from getting into her house, and claims that she also he also helped her avoid a car accident by telling her to break So now she's a psychic. All right, Well that's the news.

Speaker 2

That's the uh, and that's all the news that's fit to print.

Speaker 1

That is all the important stories that we need to know about right now. Hey, you want to see a haunted doll?

Speaker 2

Yeah, you bet I do.

Speaker 1

It's time for the dolls are living? Okay, Kara Klink. I got to ebed up home. I look for onto dolls and I try to find the most interesting ones, and this one today is actually a two for one special. We got a Bogo deal currently going for You could bid starting at one hundred dollars or of five hundred dollars if you want to buy it now because you just got to have it. Yeah, it is a real life couple of dolls. Jieha. Can you show us Nana and pop Pop?

Speaker 2

Oh? No, okay, Well, first of all, the one on the right looks like a Lane Stretch.

Speaker 1

I was gonna say, missus doubtfire.

Speaker 2

It's very like Elane Stretch wears like the vest with the white shirt, like the outfit is like adding to it, but she.

Speaker 1

Wears no pants. If there was no pants, that would be Elaine Stretch for sure, which it would probably be arranged if you want to have an Elaine Stritch doll, which reminds me I'm not a huge doll owner myself. However, I did encounter a Liberachi doll that like is really good. Is from the eighties, and it like looks a lot like him, and he has like this but dazzled outfit. Okay, just putting it out there. Anyone wants to buy it

for me? It runs around eighty dollars on eBay, and I've been I have an eBay alert on it because I'm trying to find a good deal on a Liberachi doll because it's so cute.

Speaker 2

The Grandpa doll kind of looks like, who's the actor in Psycho? Who not Psycho? What's the one with James Kahn and Kathy Baits?

Speaker 1

Oh, Misery?

Speaker 2

Misery? Yeah, like the guy in Misery who plays the share Sam or Yeah, yeah it's Sam, It's it is Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's.

Speaker 1

Him, the old southern, you know, kind of western e guy.

Speaker 2

Yeah yeah, the guy he's also in He's also in Big Lebowskian stuff. Yeah yeah, yeah. He reminds me of him with the big bushy mustache.

Speaker 1

This is crazy. You have referenced Kathy Baits twice in one episode. Of course, maybe definitely a record here. The two of them are like they look sterney. We've got two Western the old white people with white hair. And there's kind of like a leather slant to what they've got going on here, Like they're both wearing leather.

Speaker 2

And just need to correct myself, because I guess this guy's name is Richard Farnsworth and not Sam who we thought. But he's not in that. He is not in that IMDb for this movie. But I really thought it was him too, the guy from Freaking Big Lebowski. Why can't I find it?

Speaker 1

I know exactly who you're talking about.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I'm gonna get the last name and be so annoyed at myself. Yeah, yeah, come on, Sam Elliott, Sam Elliott.

Speaker 1

Sam Elliott. It looks like he's because he's got a bushy mustache.

Speaker 2

This is bushy mustache.

Speaker 1

Pop. Yeah, he's got some fringe and the pictures that are a little bit zoomed in you can see his leather vest has fringe on it, which is pretty hot. I have seen stuff like that at the fulsome street fair.

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker 1

Anyway, they come with a bio and let's see what it says about Nana and pop Pop. Did you ever have like cute names for your grandparents like that?

Speaker 2

No, literally, Grandma Frida, Grandma Esther, grandma, Grandpa Joe, like just their name and grandma.

Speaker 1

Yeah my mom.

Speaker 2

My mom is so crazy. She makes my kids call her grandy because she didn't like grandma, and so they call her Grandy, which I thought which she copied from one of my friends. But then I realized one of my friends the one reason she does it is because her mom's name is Wendy, so it's like Grandma and Wendy together. My mom's just Rosemary, who just goes by Grandy and stole my friend's grandma name, So I mean she's nuts.

Speaker 1

I love grandma and grandpa names. It's always like beat pop and Neme like I don't know what that I know and Poppy pops. Yes, I was just an old school grandma and grandpa family. But anyway, this person that's selling Nanam pop Pop said, when I first encountered pop Pop at a thrift store, I felt an immediate connection to him. He was accompanied by Nana and I couldn't bear to separate them. Oh that's interesting. So this person was like, I'm into the man, but I guess his

wife has to come too. As I placed pop Pop in my cart, treating him like a cherished toddler, a nearby customer said, how creepy it was. Okay, wait a second, let's get to the good stuff. Due to my daughter's aversion to them, I left without buying them, but something pulled me back. I returned to the store and found them still there waiting for me. Are you kidding me? Nobody wanted to buy these Old Lady and Old Grandpa dolls? I guess not. So bringing them home was the start

of a series of inexplicable events. Initially, I placed them in my craft room and the lighting began flickering. Oh even after changing the bobs, the flickering persisted. Thinking it was an electrical problem in that room, but being suspicious now, I move them to our guest room. The disturbances followed the dolls there as well. Over the next few weeks, I experienced a cascade of misfortunes. Three dishwashers broke, a dryer,

a stove, even my husband's engine truck blue. I see shadow figures around my property now, and I hear strange noises in my house. I have them stored in the shed now, hoping that distance will neutralize their effects. However, the misfortunes continue. My ac broke, four power tools malfunctioned in the same day, my phone became irreparably damaged, and I lost a lot of my important data. My kitchen aid fell apart, and my Ninja blender is no longer living.

Speaker 2

What the hell?

Speaker 1

There are other more disturbing things that happened to the point where more of a demonic presence might be around. They try to cleanse it, it's only temporary relief. Wow, Nana, who mysteriously lost her eyes after coming into my possession, feels dark and ominous. She really was trying to get rid of the wife she does not like, Nana. Despite my husband's insistence to quote get rid of the frickin' dolls, I can't throw them away or donate them, so instead

they're asking for five hundred dollars. God, this is all I'm taking away from this is that the woman who's selling an old lady an old grandpa doll that is ruining her life for five hundred dollars, that she's married and I'm not. That's what I'm reading. That's my takeaway from those I just don't.

Speaker 2

Get why these people if they really want to sell them, like I don't know, maybe like tell the story about the lights flickering, but don't say if you buy these, literally, every appliance that you own is going to shit the bed within days.

Speaker 1

Seriously, or if that's the case, then just like sell it for a dollar or something like. Yeah, but no, now she wants five hundred dollars because she needs a new Ninja blender. She needs a new backup on her phone, like she's this lady's got bills to pay because of Nana the demonic grandma.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I guess I'm just kind of like, I guess it's tough because you want to do a description that appeals to the spook hunters that are out there looking for spooky stuff. But I don't know if I'm a spooky person. I'm not like cool. I'd love to lose the ability for anything I own to work.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that does not sound appealing at all. Yeah, unless you're like, I'm an aspiring demon tamer and this is gonna be my next challenge.

Speaker 2

Like, Also, why does Nana's hand look so weird at the bottom of the thing that you've shown me?

Speaker 1

It is weird.

Speaker 2

I don't know ai hand at the bottom there?

Speaker 1

Wait a second, let me look. Yeah, what is that she definitely has.

Speaker 2

Oh my god, it like looks like a human thumb, and then just the rest of her fist is a blur.

Speaker 1

Maybe it's a ghost.

Speaker 2

I don't know if I'm paying five hundred dollars.

Speaker 1

Yeah, she doesn't have eyes. Neither of them have eyes. Oh maybe Pop Pop came without him.

Speaker 2

Like your dog.

Speaker 1

Oh I want that dog. Okay, let's do one more thing, Kara. Okay, you want to hear some ghost voices? Yeah, it's time for EVP or ev please last time.

Speaker 2

I'm just gonna say sorry, last time. I remember, I like, could hear it?

Speaker 1

Well, that is common.

Speaker 2

But my favorite thing is when I was seeing you promote your show, was when you hear the spirit say a slur. That was really funny to me.

Speaker 1

Yes, that is something that did happen to me, and not.

Speaker 2

That that slur is funny, but you the way your face looks, you're like this, like it's so funny.

Speaker 1

If you watch it, you will notice that I am holding back my laughter because it's just so absurd. First of all, it was so clear in the room when that happened, and I mean it was just so funny. I think sometimes that word being thrown at you by like a living person on the street or something like that's not funny, not funny. This was funny.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Also, yeah, that video has gotten millions and millions of views, and it's like the best thing that's ever happened to me is a ghost calling me that word. I sometimes have people I'll just address this on the podcast because I've never talked about I don't think on the podcast that people will be like, you're allowed to say the F word? Like why because when it happens in the clip, I go, it just called me the F word, the

gay one. Yeah, and people are like just confused about why I said it that way, And it's because I'm a damn pro and I didn't know if we were be allowed to use that word on TV, right, and so I was afraid if it got bleeped, then people wouldn't know what the word was that the ghost said. So I was trying to be descriptive in the moment and say the F word the gay one, because if it if people thought it just said fuck or something, that's a very different story anyway. Okay, this first ghost

was posted by Joshua Smith and it's on YouTube. It was recorded at a place called Moonville Cemetery in MacArthur, Ohio. Moonville Cemetery, cool name, Yeah, Okay, what is this ghost saying? Karraklank Okay, what Okay, listen, there is definitely like a brush that goes by like a It's not that. If you can tune in, there's a little tiny voice.

Speaker 2

I hear that. I just can't hear what it's saying.

Speaker 1

Okay, let's focus in. Here we go again.

Speaker 2

Any guesses Biden should step aside. I think that's what it said.

Speaker 1

Okay, you know this is a real coincidence because the first option is a you Joe Biden? Is it b you can't scare me? See you don't stay here? Or d you go girlfriend? Okay, it's one of those. Let me play it again.

Speaker 2

Yeah, once you put something in my ear, it sounds like you don't stay here. Now I hear that.

Speaker 1

You're right, that is what they believe it says. I think it's a cool, fun, fun time lady from the nineties saying you go girlfriend. But uh, yes, they do believe it says you don't stay here. And now that we know that, let me play it again.

Speaker 2

Okay, yeah, okay, wow.

Speaker 1

All right, here's one more. This is from an account called Paranormal Warehouse, and this EVP was captured by a group called Island Ghost Research and it's at a place called the Gatcombe House, which is on the Isle of Wight off the coast of England. Okay, what is it thing? Okay, this is a different kind really bad audio or whatever. But there isn't you know, a ghost saying let's play it again?

Speaker 2

M too loud?

Speaker 1

Oh that's a good gush.

Speaker 2

No, it's like too sound.

Speaker 1

Well here's some options. Did they think it was a belly b keep going, see I'm cold? Or d girl power? I mean it's England, it could be a spice girls fan. All right, let's play it again.

Speaker 2

I hear keep going.

Speaker 1

That is what they believed. Wow, Kara Klang two for two.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it sounds kind of like an old lady going keep going.

Speaker 1

Yeah, closer, closer. Hey Carrie, you did it. That was a great h that was a great episode there.

Speaker 2

Third time, Oh, thank you third time. I just I'm excited to just get up to double digits. I want to be on this podcast as much as possible. Ah, thank you so much for having me. This was fun.

Speaker 1

Oh my god, you're always so good. Tell people where to find you. You are my exactly right sister.

Speaker 2

Yes, baby, you can listen to our podcast. That's messed up an SVU podcast where we go through episodes of Law and Order SVU. We recap the episodes, we talk about the true crimes they're based on, and we interview actors from the show. We just interviewed Danny Pino, who plays Nikamaro. If you're an sv person, that's a big get for us. But also some people listen to our podcasts and don't even watch the show. They just think we're fun. It's me and Aliza Traeger, who's an amazing comedian.

And you know, I run a live show in La called Better Half Comedy that Roz does all the time. That's Wednesdays at Barbandini and Echo Park, and I'm on social media.

Speaker 1

It is such a good show. Also, like hippist audience in town.

Speaker 2

They are cool, they are too cool.

Speaker 1

You and your husband really attract like the coolest, hottest young people in the East side of Los Angeles.

Speaker 2

Well, it's either us or the organic wine and the free the free ticket price, but one of those.

Speaker 1

It's a great show every Wednesday. People need to check it out Barbandini and Echo Park. Follow you, Kara, Kara, thank you so much for doing this.

Speaker 2

Thanks for having me, Roz.

Speaker 1

I have one more thing to say to you.

Speaker 2

Just keep going, keep going, just keep going.

Speaker 1

Keep going. Thank you so much. To Kara klank Ah, I love you. Oh you know another thing I should tell you. I know it's probably warm where you live right now, but the Ghosted sweaters are out there for your enjoyment if you want one. They are so cute and I just feel like I don't mention them enough. So if you want them, you go to exactly Right store dot com, go to the ghosted tab and you can see them there. They're so cute. They're white and then there's like pink writing with a picture of me.

I love them anyway. I love you all, both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me, kay By. This has been an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you, so email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. You can send a DM or voice message to the

show's Instagram at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow while you're there, and follow me Roz on Instagram at roz Hernandez and on TikTok and twitter at It's Roz Hernandez. My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Cutner. Additional production support from the hair raising Hannah Kyle Krichten. My theme music is by

the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia Hard Start, and the frightening Danielle Kramer.

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