Georgia Hardstark Sees a Ghost Coach

What's that at the foot of my bed? It's spooky.

Hey, Joky, I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way.

Wait a minute, Hey, I ghost said.

I gos Nandez. Please, hey boo, it's me Roz. Welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez. Oh how I have missed you. But if you're new around here, hey, let me introduce myself. You're probably saying, who is that shouting at me? What am I listening to Ghosted?

Why?

What? Huh huh? Well, I'm Roz Hernandez. I am a comedian. I'm based in Los Angeles. If you don't believe me, go to my Instagram. It's at Roz Hernandez. You'll see there's clip and everything. I'm transgender. I use she her pronouns. I am a retired drag queen. I used to go buy the name Roz dresfles the bargain bin beauty.

You know.

I'm a local entertainer and gal about town here in Hollywood, And because of that, I know all kinds of characters and I have them come here on this podcast. Because one more fact about me, I am obsessed with the paranormal. I grew up in a house that I believe was haunted by the spirit of my dear loving grandmother, and then you know, I've had several ghostly experiences over the years. And then cut to twenty nineteen. I started doing this very podcast because I wanted to dig a little deeper.

Hello, Oh my goodness, thank you. Hi. I'm so happy to be here us.

Georgia. I have wanted to talk to you for so long. You, me and Karen are such inspirations to me and what I do. And I've always admired the way that you guys keep things fun and funny but also like you're dealing with stuff that is macau and serious. And do you have any advice for me on that?

Whatever I say to someone when they say what kind of podcast is it, and I say true crime and comedy, and I always have to say, but the comedy is not about the cases. Comedy is that Karen and I exchange, you know, funny quips about ourselves, about life, about the horribleness that happens in life, not about the victim, never about the crime that's affected so many people and you know, devastated so many people. So I think you stay funny

Person, right, which I think people get it wrong a lot of the time when they're like, my task right now is to make jokes about out dead people, and it's like, well, but we're not like making fun of dead people. That's not really now. There is a difference between murder and paranormal and there's a lot less fact and it's a little bit more open to interpretation and that sort of thing.

You've got it good, You've got it good.

Yeah, that I imagine that what you guys deal with is not easy to keep fun and lighthearted. But somehow you figured it out.

Well, you figured out the topic. Because when we do have like paranormal like ghost stories that we talk about or like anything old timey, it's just it's easier to talk about when it's old tiny, And I feel like so much paranormal stuff is kind of old timey, So you just pick the right path, that is what I'm saying.

And I'm definitely old timey, which makes me it makes me think very skeptically. I always try to approach this stuff very skeptically, and I'm sort of My approach is always like, let's way out all the options that could be explanations, and if we can't find anything, then that's the good stuff. But so many of these iconic stories, yeah from like not now, And I'm always like, why are they from now? Is it? Because back then people

Must have been spirits.

I don't know.

It does seem like, you know, the way past, like one hundred years ago, even you know, fifty years ago was way much more susceptible to like paranormal staff. People were way more open to spiritual you know, the crossover with spirituality and real life, which I think it's true, Like you're on your phone. You can explain away so much now with technology, And actually something happened to me not that long ago that I just want to explain away with technology because it was so freaky.

Okay, Well me personally, I don't know anything about technologies, so all of it to me is paranormal. Like literally, if you think about what is wi fi, I don't know what that is. And so like I imagine that one hundred years ago, if you tried to explain that, they would be like, yeah, that's superpowers. Yeah, okay, So what happened to you?

Okay, So we moved to this new house and it's old. It's I mean, it's La old. So it's like from the thirties, you know what I mean. But it has all the elements of what one would think a haunted la house would look like. It's got the creepy basement in a couple of rooms. There's like a panic an old panic button. I guess there was like an old timey panic alarm in there. It's just got these elements, you know, like, okay, a ghost child would live.

In here totally. Do you know the history?

It's not interesting. Yeah, it's just like people owned it. See.

But that's the thing. Sometimes sometimes the good stuff is never recorded, right, who knows what's happened?

Or like the ground it was built on, Like what the fuck happened there? You know what I mean?

Exactly?

We stole all this land from these indigenous people that could be it. Yeah, but I don't totally believe or want to believe in ghosts, So I was like, this house isn't haunted and we'll know pretty quickly if it is. So one night thence my husband was out and I got into bed. It was kind of like eleven o'clock at night, and suddenly from downstairs, music starts blasting, and I was like, did I leave the TV on? What is that?

Like?

Getting up out of bed to check on something if it's haunted is like a horror movie that you don't do. But I had to do it. Because there's music blasting from downstairs.

What was the music?

It was fucking the least scary music. Thank god it was Elton John.

Oh okay, well what was it The Bitch is back? Because that's a ghost song for sure.

For sure, it wasn't that. It was some I can't remember what song it was exactly, but it was like a happy go lucky song and wasn't like terrible. So I go down and in my living room, the sons are like, you know, wireless speaker is just on blasting Elton John for no fucking reason. I don't even have it like on my phone, the app on my phone. Yeah, that would be a ghost, right, And I go over to unplug it, and I'm like, if I unplug this

I don't know. Yeah, I think it's a ghost. You caught yourself there for a second. You said you don't believe, or you don't want to believe. Yeah, tell me about this.

Well, I don't want to live my life walking to the bathroom every night, being scared out of my mind to pee in the middle of the night like that, to me is just not how I want to my life and how I used to live my life as a kid. I think all of us, you know, we're scared of the idea of ghosts as kids.

I still do. I have no reason to believe that my place is haunted and I do get up to pee every single night and I look around, Yeah.

Or like you feel like you're being chased to the bathroom kind of or something so stupid. I just don't want to live like that, and I easily could, so I've told my and I also think that like people who are more open to it are more susceptible to weird things happening, because I kind of do believe in the supernatural, so to not have it happen to me, I just block it out altogether.

Here's the good news for you. And I've talked about this a billion times on the show, but you have a podcast that a lot of people listen to. Ghosts don't want to be on a podcast. I have tried so hard because they need the content. They're not going to be interested. They go, no, not her, she's gonna talk about us.

Maybe they haven't caught up to the technology yet and they don't even like they don't know that they should be haunting influencers and podcasters because that's like how they actually get, you know, those brand deals and attention.

Yeah.

And the other thing too is like having cats, Like they'll tell you when something is off.

Oh yeah.

So if my cats are sleeping happily at night and not like freaking out about something invisible in the corner, then I'm fine. If one of my cats was staring at the wall meowing and like freaked out, I wouldn't get up to peek, you know what I mean.

That's when you burn the house to the ground and.

Leave right right. I just I feel like I'm just like justifying so many reasons to not believe in it because I because I'm scared of it.

You know, I tried so hard to not view this stuff as scary, Like, so what if there is like right old lady that loved that house and she just hangs out and wants to watch really go to the bathroom.

Big crazy, Yeah, I'm not. You know, when I sage the house, it's and I tell and I kind of have this thing where I tell the house I'm here. And this is my intention is when I first move into a new house or apartment, my intention is to be happy, like be happy and love this house because I love the old la architecture, like I've lived in the old apartments and my grandma had an old house, you know, And so it's just I think my intentions

The others the authors like that?

To me is a possibility that we're like living on the same plane of existence as all of time.

And you're the ghost and I'm.

The ghost, so I should be polite.

Not scared about You're the one always talking about murder, like.

I don't know about this girl. Yeah that's true, that's true.

So tell me about your first experience that you believe could have been paranormal.

Okay, Well, I have this handful of experiences that happened when I was a kid.

I want to say, like give them all to me.

Okay. It was like between like five years old and like you know, eight or so, and I've kind of just like carried them with me throughout my life without being able to explain what really happened, but you know, explaining them away because I don't believe in a ghost showing up to I don't know, it's just weird. Okay.

So the first one, and this is Orange County.

Unfortunately, yes, it's Orange County, probably the least haunted place.

Which part Irvine.

Okay, so like it doesn't even go back farther than like seventy nine. So like I don't think ghosts were hanging out in the Orange Groves.

See, But that's what people that's a misconception though, Like we always think that old equals ghosts, which right, you know, to me me too, a ghost that's been around for a long time, they're probably exhausted, they would Why would that make something more haunted? Like that's so it's a long time to be a ghost. So I think that a lot of times it's like could be you know, it could it could not even be a dead person. It could just be something. It could be spirit, something

I don't know. I kind of subscribe to the idea that certain people are more susceptible because I have a friend who, like every house she lives and everwhere she goes, there's something weird happening and the electronics always fail and go wonky and stuff, and it's just like, well, she's haunted. She's a she's a conduit to the spirit world more than most people are, because she's open to it totally.

Well, or it could just be that she's got magic powers of some sort. And I'm not even like joking when I say that. I think that, you know, like a lot of times Poulter guys are from what people study, the consensus is it's more so telekinese as coming out of one person. Yeah, and people think, oh, it's the house. Well, when you keep moving to a different place, right, you know,

Right because blood's coming out of the wall, and like what the fuck? Yeah, I like that idea. I mean even just if you think about it's not a ghost, it's just like leftover energy from a person's life or from you know, a dynamic thing that happened, if you want to like look into what the soul is and what it means. And I don't know I sound wackyy to myself, but I know I'm like stand by it.

It's like when someone wears too much cologne and you like go on a date with them and then you come home and you're like, you're they're in my nose, They're like still here. And I do think that that energetically can happen as well.

Yeah, and if you have a better sense of spell, you're going to be more attuned to that stink there it is you're around. Oh my god, we figured it out, I think.

But also like I think it can be from the living. Like I think that, yes, like some bad energy someone gets into a fight or something that can stick around totally.

Well. They say that when you are near someone who's going through a stressful time, you absorb some of you know, they're pheromones, they're stressed out pheromones. It's just because that's how we learn to survive, you know as animals, is to be attuned to what's going on around us. If someone else is freaking out, then maybe you know it's because there's a lion close by and we need to you know. I mean, I'm talking about thousands of years ago obviously, but suck if there is a line, you know,

You know, and the way that we've evolved, we ignore those things a lot of the times where totally other animals are like something bads here, I'm getting out or whatever, and we're just like, something bad's here, eh whatever.

You know who doesn't ignore those things is children because they don't know yet how to process the world. So they don't know. They're not supposed to be believing in past lives and ghosts and you know all the creepy things that kids say. Yeah, we get a lot of hometowns of like my daughter knew my grandmother as her imaginary friend and had never met. I love that shit so much, which is why so the things that happened to me as a kid, I'm kind of like maybe

Push like a sliding door.

Like a sliding We had like a sliding door closet here, and I'm lying in bed like just kind of thinking at late at night, it's dark, staring at the closet. I've always had insomnia, and the fucking closet opens just a little like a foot on its own. And I know it wasn't an animal because we didn't have cats yet,

On you, Oh my gosh. Okay, I don't like stuff when I'm in bed. Bed. No to me is like save space, bed and bathroom, like it should be off limits always, but definitely Okay.

Well, I still remember getting the courage up to run to my parents' room that first time past the closet because I had to go down the stairs from my bunk bed and run out past the closet, and I just remember lying there being like you can do this, you can do this, get out of here.

Good for you.

Though I didn't stop and save my sister and wake her up below it was like, let the ghosts have her. Yeah.

So do you recall your parents or anyone else in the family also having experiences or have they told you since.

No no one else has. But my mom always believed in it a lot, Like she always encouraged the fact that, like Georgia sees spirits, isn't it creepy? Like she was on board with it. And I think she believed in some stuff, like she went to a psychic a few times and saying, like, if you make up a story about a stranger, like half the time, it's true, Like the intuition is there, and just kind of she's got the wou woo stuff for sure going on.

And so she believed it like you have that.

No. But I feel like maybe as a kid, I was more susceptible to it. I feel like I'm good at reading people's emotions and tapping into that, but not you know, and I like to question reality a lot. I think that's really fun. But I try so hard to have a scientific mind. You know, but it's fun. Like who cares. I don't believe in astrology, but I'll still read my fucking horoscope.

Literally same. I don't know about anything. And I just had a friend that was doing the whole like what time were you born and like all of that, and I'm like, here we go, let's do it. And I'm like, yeah, tell me everything about me. It did say that I'm not going to be famous, so I was like, I truly didn't even ask for whatever, but I'm interested in hearing about it.

Yeah, exactly, And this will be a challenge for you to prove astrology wrong. You know what I mean. I always love a good challenge.

Exactly.

Well, that's all this is.

I check this shit every morning and like sometimes here's the trick, don't be too specific with it, right, I'll have some where I'll wake up and I'll be like, today's the day you're going to fall in love. Oh my god, it all changes today, so enjoy you're going to meet that special someone. It's like, just say I'm going to have a good day or something, and then I can go.

Wow, it was right, But like, yeah, like vague, we want vague, which I think is why it's so important to find the website or the writer who gives the astrology readings that you like, because especially.

Because it's free right now, these psychics that you pay for it, like that's a different story. I'm like, tell me what this person's going to look like, then I'm going to fall in love with totally and all of that. Have you been to a psychic.

I haven't been a psychic, but I've done my tarot cards a couple times. I like it. I think it's cool and exciting, but it's you know, always been so vague that it's almost like I can't pinpoint any one thing that I'm like supposed to do or should be living my life in this way because of it. But it is cool and I'll like, you know, it's always

Yeah, I always like it when you're on the fence and you're like, yeah, well, you know, this thing is saying I should do it or not do it or whatever. Like I think it's I think it's a fun little confirmation totally.

I think that's the best time to go, is when you're on the fence about something.

And that's the good thing about taror because I do like taro and I think that is a nice thing about it is that there's you can interpret it, like, you know, different ways, and some people are really good with their intuition interpreting it accurately or whatever. But I'm into the tarot. I pull those things out when I'm like what should I do?

And sure stuff, that's great. I love that. I kind of want to do that too, But I don't know how to read them.

No, I don't either. I have no clue, but I just google each card.

You like, what, all right, Yeah, I could do that.

Or I also live in La so I've got four thousand people I can call too, And sometimes I will call eight different people and go, Okay, this is what I got, and they're going to so one goes that's ooh, that's not good, and then the next one, oh, my gosh, that's amazing. So it's like, who.

Knows you got a vibe with your reader for sure? Yeah, if it's like I went to one once and it was like some you know, twenty one year old girl who like, bless her heart, But it's like I want someone like who's been around reading cards for a lot, has a lot of experience with it and has seen it all that's telling me what to do with my life.

Yeah, you have to have a ring on all ten fingers for me to take you seriously when it comes to that kind of a thing.

The third time that the ghosty thing happened was a similar experience to that person or that spirit. I'll call it, for lack of a better term, popping up apparition, let's call it that. Okay, I was lying in bed and I saw an apparition of a spirit like on the ceiling, like pointing at me. Just it's like a split second, but it's like it was there. It was definitely there. It wasn't just my imagination, because I have a wild imagination and that doesn't fucking happen ever.

Now, hang out. So you're on the top of the top floor of a bunk bed.

This is a regular bed I was at camp and yeah.

Oh so this isn't even associated with the pop up one. Okay, no, yeah, so could you tell what this person or whatever looked like were there features?

Yeah, it was an older man who almost had like a like he was like a coach, like he was the coach of a sports team vibe, you know. And he was pointing at me, and he looked very angry.

Heart start get in the hearts.

I don't know what that means or what it was, but it definitely scared me because he looked so angry. Like the one that popped up at my bunk bed seemed like there was like fun, happy vibes going on there, and it just kind of scared me. But this was like this angry God. I feel like, this is why I don't talk about this. I feel like I sound loopy. Not here, not here, okay, save space.

That's what I love so much about this is that, Yeah, there's an audience of people that are like, yeah, I'm on board, Like we're not just like saying this out in the air. I think sometimes yeah, you can say this stuff and people are like oking, never dogging to Georgia again.

Right, which is why I always say, like, oh, but I don't believe in ghosts anymore. But it's like, well, I would love it if someone listening were like interpret what happened and like acknowledge or somehow like affirm that what I saw was like a you know, some kind of little trip into the you know, supernatural world. But I don't know. I want to believe it so bad, but I you know, my brain can't allow that.

It's possible that since it is scary, you turned your you know self off to that, And like I'm I am scared of this stuff, which is so dumb, because well, I no, it's human. It makes sense. Yeah yeah, yeah, but considering the fact that my job is talking about these things, you would think that I wouldn't be so

Please know has something ever has Has there ever been a moment where like it it pushed you to like this is real? And you know no one could talk me out of this being real.

Yes, I've got a list that has grown, and you know, I took off a couple of months of this podcast and I'm going to talk about it when the time is right. But I have had multiple experiences that I was not the only witness for that I do not have any explanation for. And that is what we call foreshadowing. I'll talk about it later.

I love it. That's what you want is for someone else to have experienced it as well. It's like so annoying when you're alone. I know my husband, like he and some friends have this story of seeing a UFO, you know, not saying it was an alien, just this unidentified flying object hovering and they all fucking saw it. And you know that way, you can't talk yourself out of it. You're not bananas. And it wasn't a drone. This is before drones.

So I love how you broke it down with it was unidentified, which I'll be honest with you, and this entire time i've been talking to you, I've just been revealing how little I know about anything. I don't know anything about technology, I don't know anything about airplanes. I don't know anything about any of that. So I can't identify half the damn shit up there. So technically most of these things are not identifiable to me.

Right, But you don't do you? Do you believe in aliens and spaceships? And do you think they've visited our planet?

Yes? I do? Here, Okay, My stance overall on all of this stuff is why not? Why not everything? Sure, anything is possible, But I am very convinced when I look into that kind of stuff that, yeah, of course there's other you know, people or life or whatever. It's not just us, right, And I do think that they are so much smarter than us, and that they come in peace because they could probably make us just disappear instantly.

Just kill us all. Stay away from those earthers.

Yeah, And it's like sometimes for whatever reason, they come over here and check in on us. They laugh at us. They I have always had a theory that it's teenage aliens taking their parents' UFO to go to the bad part of town.

They come down here to go to our raves, and then exactly that's it. I love that that, or like that reality is a simulation. Those are things I can totally get behind. Oo, I think that's a fine.

Yeah, that starts to trip me out.

I'm really into like, like Reddit has like blip in the Matrix, you know, page where everyone just tells their stories of their their blips, things that happened or things they saw that like doesn't make sense, you know, like more than coincidences.

Uh huh.

I fucking love that shit.

Have you had anything like that ever happened to you?

I mean other than like thinking about someone and they call. Like my sister and I have that obviously, like really strong bond of like thinking and feeling the same things. I have a friend that just we are so in sync, my friend Kate, when we're so in sync with reaching out to each other and being on this you know, in the same place, or worrying about each other when something you intuitively sent something's going on with them. So

See you are psychic, I really, I don't know. I mean, I think we all are. I think it's definitely a spectrum.

I think so too.

Yeah, but I always think about like people that fall in love, or you and Karen coming together and creating you have, like stuff like that is something.

Yeah, yeah, And it's like again I'm trying to I'm so skeptical all the time that it's like, I don't believe in fate, But there are those things that happen in your life that you know that have more meaning than other experiences. And I think a lot about like what if I hadn't you know, gone to this party where I met my husband, or yeah, what if I hadn't like made this one decision and hadn't met Karen, or just these little things that I think about all the time.

Because you don't believe in fate, Oh please, I know, I know, I know the type of person you are with this kind of stuff which is like secretly do you believe in it but want to like not just yeah, don't give.

It to your energy totally, Like I want some healthy skepticism to go with my unhealthy obsession.

Yeah, you know. So did you have any other experiences as a kid?

I mean other than that, there's like a couple of little things that I feel like I can splain explain away with like the light trick of the light or something going on, but then it just kind of stopped happening and went away.

Did you ever look up if that summer camp has like the legend of Coach Johnson.

I'll find out. I should look it up. I mean it was a Jewish camp, so it'd probably just be like an angry grandfather, you know.

But he looked like a coach.

But he looked like a coach.

No whistle around his neck or anything that vibe.

Yeah, Like in my childhood brain it was like coach. I can you know identify this person as a seemingly coach esque Yeah.

That's so interesting, okay. And it's also like, why did he appear to you?

Like, well, maybe it was just an anxiety I was having and it was my imagination.

You know, that's not fun though it's not that's not a good way to I just want to believe that everything, like.

You know, I do, you know, I believe it.

I'm also like, why why can some ghosts float? Like how does that happen?

The floating thing is definitely like something we've assigned ghosts for sure, And why are they like always old timey not?

Well, yeah, you're right, I know I've seen people I've talked about those over the years, and people love to send me memes of other people saying this kind of a thing too, with like why don't you ever see like a juicy Cature ghost from the two thousands?

Yeah, I mean, I don't know, maybe you don't get your spiritual wings for fifty years or something like that. You know, you don't get it, like you're not allowed to haunt. You have to like go through some training that could be so by the time it had like, they'll be juicy coteur ghosts, but it won't be until like twenty sixty.

Right when it becomes more of like a ooh, it was so spooky. She had juicykature.

The old timy juicy coots were sweatpants.

On yeah, which like yeah, because now it's like ghosts are always like oh, they had like a lace creepy lace dress.

Right, not like she had butterfly clips in her hair.

She had like the thong coming up like the whale tail or.

She had a belly button ring with a jewel at the end of it. It was so creepy.

Oh my god. Well, speaking of fashion and ghosts, can I show you a haunted eBay doll?

A fuckingly please?

Do you know about this phenomenon?

No? Tell me?

Okay, So people love to go to eBay dot com. They also do it on Etsy honestly anywhere Craig's List. They love to sell their items, particularly dolls that they claim are haunted, wow or psychic. They always have these stories attached to them. Sometimes the stories really give you the details about who the ghosts inside of this doll is.

That's cool. Like, I mean, as someone who goes to a State Sales, I have seen some fucking creepy dolls and artifacts from people's lives that could absolutely be haunted.

Okay, I'm going to keep my eye out for you. Next to States sale I goes to because I'm on all those mailing lists.

Oh my god, I love it.

I show up. I love a state sales WA so much, and those can be creepy, you know. I always like to remind myself that it doesn't always mean that a person has died. Sometimes they're downsizing, sometimes whatever. But I've been to some before where it's like, oh, there was a person living here and now they're not, and.

Their skin cells are everywhere. Ew I do I So I do love a state sales. I love all things like vintage andal timy, like I'm obsessed with that stuff. When I go to a state sales, I try to be very like polite about the fact that I'm going through someone's entire life and I have felt really sad about it before, and I'm just like picking things from someone's existence that meant something to them. So I try. I'm very picky with what I buy because I want

No, let me ask you those speakers that played out in John, were those brand.

New that was a brand new new technology. I mean, maybe it's true they might have been returned mid twenty mid like twenty teens, so maybe somebody I.

Have bought them died when they fell on top of them, and then then their relatives returned it because they had the still.

Right while listening to Elton John, I did take my mom do an a state sale went which was a huge mistake because she went up to the cellar and asked about the person who had lived there and came back and told me this whole sad story about how that person had died. And I was like, Mom, we're you're

Yeah, I think it's usually best to not know. Just ignore that. Ignore if there's crime scene tape on the ground of an outline of just walk over it.

There was one estate so they went to where someone had lived there for a very long time. You can tell someone old had lived there. And on the back of their like closet door, they had started taking notes of the dates they had started feeling their symptoms. Oh wow, so headaches start. This happened headache today fell at this, you know, and it was so eerie. Am I finding to me this is like ghost adjacent or is this just no?

It is? But also living here in La sometimes there will be the most interesting like former porn director from that that hasn't bought a new item since the seventies. Yeah, it's like that kind of stuff is fun. Alex Trebek had like that big giant sale.

And so I find that people who are Jewish have a lot of goods. I'm Jewish, so like we tend to save everything. So if it's an old Jewish person, you're gonna find a lot of good stuff antiques an cheek Okay, sorry, go on about the doll.

Okay, it's time for a segment I like to call the Dolls are Living Today We're going to be talking about Rita. And Rita currently has zero bids on her. She is starting out at fifty three dollars for the bidding. Okay, reasonable sixty nine dollars if you wanted to buy her now, everybody welcome Rita.

Oh my god, wow, she looks like like Kristen Wiggs character in FNL when she has the tiny hands.

Yeah, it is oh wow.

Yeah, that wonky eyes doing it.

She does have yeah, one eye open like that Metallica song, which is a great touch. I think having having no eyes is probably the best because you know, I always say, this is about marketing here, you're trying to sell a spooky doll, so totally. I'm always like, you either remove the eyes or glue one shut, you know. Yeah, yeah, she does have one eye open. She's got those drawn on eyebrows, which many of us have had a phase where we draw our eyebrows on.

Yeah. I had those. I had those in the late nineties for sure.

Yes, yeah, she definitely plucked away in the nineties and now draws them on a little high And then of course she's got on lace, which is very important for a haunted doll.

So what's her story.

Well, this one in particular doesn't have a huge backstory as much as it tells you about Rita. So now let's keep in mind that the way that the way they play this on eBay is that there's a spirit inside of this vessel. It's not necessarily the doll that we're talking about, so we're talking more so about the ghost that comes with it. Though there is always a disclaimer that says, you know, legally we are not allowed to sell intangible items or you know, so oh my god, Yeah,

First, I mean, nothing is creepier than a music playing movable doll because it's gonna start playing and moving in the middle of a fucking night without especially if it's possessed.

You would hope. I mean, if you're gonna be paying for fifty three dollars, I wanna be scared out of my fucking mind. It says lots of bumps in the night with this one. She loves the paranormal and was very active almost immediately. She can be a great companion. She is so much fun to work with. To work with, I guess I mean they mean like to investigate or whenever. I don't think she's a coworker. You can just feel

Oh yeah, yeah.

She has been tested personally by me with three different methods and she's very active. Okay, So would you for fifty.

Three dollars purchase Rita listen. Having grown up, having way too young of an age, watched Chucky Child's way. There's no fucking way like I've been. I've been to many estate sales and never bought a doll. I mean not because it's also not my style. But Chucky, man, that thing scared the ever loving shit at me as like an eight year old.

So no, but see, Chucky's a little bit unfair because that is an actual serial killer inside of a doll. And so yes, of course it's terrifying. But like you know, if you think about toy story, those are just like nice dolls come alive.

That's true, But how do you know what you've got? There's something sinister about a doll?

Well, this person tested three different methods, and yeah, they can tell you that she is very sweet.

But maybe Rita's just looking for the right person to haunt, and so she's like, I feel like it's there's some sinister there's some sinister stuff going on underneath this facade of lace and eye movement.

Now, okay, being the level of skepticism that you're at, if somebody was to be like, all right, Georgia, just one week with this doll next to your bad would you. So you're the type of person that would assume, like no, that I'm not taking that chance.

I would do it to prove to myself that everything is fine.

Okay, put your address in the chat, and we're going to make this happen.

Well, someone did once send us this like vintage like nineteen sixty or seventies clown doll that was like or maybe they gave it to us at a show, but it was like like a like a raggedy ann type of doll that was a clown and on one side had a happy face and when you turn the clown over, the other side was like the most devastatingly sad, terrifying face you've ever seen. So it was like happy sad clown. And we just like left it at the office and

Yeah, That's where I'm at with a lot of things, like a lot of these on eBay. I'm like girl, first of all the people that sell stuff on here, don't assume that there's somebody like me that checks these listings every day and keeps track of who's going for what. And I know, I know the market, honey, and they sometimes the same seller will copy and paste the same story on a different like this is not real most of it. That being said, what I want one of these in my house? No? Absolutely not.

No. The bedside table. I just think I'd have to pass for sure.

Okay, So that's understandable.

That tells you everything you need to know about my beliefs.

I guess well that'll wrap up that part of the show. Now here's another thing I like to do with all my guests. I like to play my guests ghost voices. Sound good to you, It's time for EVP or ev plicse. Have you ever heard the term EVP m mmmm? It stands for electronic voice phenomenon, which, okay, basically what they

Okay.

So this first one comes from TikTok, which is a new thing for me. Actually, this is the first time I've ever played one from TikTok. This is from somebody named lustfull X which and it was recorded at the Sally House which is in Atchison, Kansas. And this is a place that I will need to do a deep dive on in the future because it is like a very very well known haunted house that people are constantly

Do it again. It sounds like backwards. It's something backwards, isn't it. Okay?

I'm playing on.

Me.

Don't want a mouth.

I think it's something backwards, or it's e T phone home. I kind of get phone home.

Whatever it is, it does not. It's not a cute voice.

No, that's a demon, Yes.

A demon.

Or like.

Someone that hangs out in a casino all day, like anyway you do some Okay, I mean that's I don't know.

I always expect stuff like that to be like quieter and more in the background, so they.

Can be all different kinds. I've heard, really the whole gamut. But okay, I'm going to give you some options because they did not think that it was easy phone home. Here's some options. One of these is the correct answer of what they believe it said. So is it? Let me play it one more time so you can.

Hear it all right?

Is it a?

Ew?

What's in your mouth? B? We want you alone? See me want you to know?

Or d.

Neil Patrick Harris.

We want you alone?

Yes, that's what they believe it said. B. I hear them we want you alone. Ew, I don't want that's so gravy something like that. Do you believe it's real?

No, but it's some TikTok, George, I don't know. I'm not saying I believe in the phenomenon. That to me doesn't sound well. You haven't heard the second one I have for you. Oh, fuck. Okay.

This one is from a YouTube channel called Sacred Spirits, and it doesn't really tell me much about the location. It just says that Tina was doing a crossover session, which I assume is like, whoever Tina is was helping a ghost crossover, I guess. And that's when they heard this voice. Okay, Now there is some crumbling going on. What okay, but there's a voice within the crumbling.

Okay, hmm, see, as soon as you tell me what you think they think it's I'll hear it, you know what I mean?

Well totally, but it's like they don't know what they don't have options, so they just kind of pull something out of the air too.

Yeah. No, I don't hear the voice, and I think I will once I know it. It's saying I hear's something breathy.

Yeah, that's what it is. It's the breathiness. So okay, is it a Hey, that's my husband? B Okay, that's enough, then c ain't that something? Or D get a bag of sun chips.

I'm gonna go with B.

You're gonna go with b. K that's enough? Then?

Yeah, that's too long.

They believe it's c Ain't that something.

Okay, now we know that.

Let's listen.

Okay, Yeah, I don't know, kind of I don't hear that, but I do that one, Tommy almost seems more believable for some reason because it's like less clear.

Hey, that is something. Yeah, totally. Well, I want to do one more thing with you. I mean I want to do a million things. I want to go to State sales shopping with you. Yeah, but We're going to do a little a little thing here where I'm just gonna list off a bunch of phenomena. This would be really interesting with you, and I just want to hear if you have any thoughts on it. Maybe it'll trigger a memory of a story. I don't know, whatever, whatever

Specifically. No, but I think that there's probably a lot of creatures that we don't totally know in these forests and stuff.

But no, right, well, whatever it is. If that's the case, there's never been one better at hiding.

That's true.

That's true because that whoever that is, they do not want anyone finding them studying them. Yeah, okay, yeah, So along that line, Lockedness Monster, that would you put the same same thoughts on all of those kinds of things.

Ocean and lakes and waters to me are much creepier because you know there's we can't explore the depths of those things. So I would believe in Luckness Monster before Bigfoot for sure. And you know, Karen would kill me if I said I don't believe in the Luckness Monster because she loves them. So yeah, I could see there being some large creatures down there that we don't know about.

What about demons? Do you believe in that idea of a dino?

Now? No, I'm Jewish again, we don't have that.

What about past lives?

Now, that's something I totally want to believe in for sure. And when little kids, like I said, when they have these memoryes at a young age of incidents and details that they should have no knowledge about because their children and haven't experienced those things, Like I just did a story about a kid who had all of these details about being a World War two fighter pilot that ended up being correct, and there's no reason for him to

Do you think about what your past lives could have been?

No, probably pretty typical. But I do think the people who are in your life now. You know that people say like the people in your life now were in your life in a different way in your past lives, So you know, your mother could have been your daughter, like that sort of thing. I do think there's like this connection to the people you you hold deer in this lifetime.

Mm hmm, Okay. What about curses?

I mean that would suck if they're real.

But sometimes you hear about these like famous this family's cursed or this you know whatever.

Right this baseball team is curse and stuff. I mean, I think it's all a state of mind, you know what I mean. Like, if you think you're cursed and the only bad things happen to you, then you're only going to notice the bad things that happen to you, or you're going to make decisions subconsciously that create those bad things or those unlucky things. I think I'm a pretty lucky person in general, but I you know, I don't think it's because of fate or anything like that.

Ah, wasn't this a beautiful experience?

Yes, this was the opposite of a curse. This was a blessing.

I was, Oh my gosh, thanks for doing this.

It was so good. To be honest, I'm so fucking happy you're on Exactly Right now. You fit in so perfectly. I mean, it's just huge, and I'm thrilled.

Well, and I have so much to say about my experience so far, which has been truly a dream with exactly Right and I'm so glad. I mean, I know that you and Karen know how great this network is, but just as someone that's new here, I just want you guys to not like you're doing a great job. The people that I'm working with here are phenomenal and I feel like a star. Everyone's treating me like a star.

Everyone is so excited about you and yeah, we have the best, most amazing team and exactly right, and I'm like honored to have you on. You're gonna fit in perfectly with the family. A family.

Well, anyway, I guess that's about it. Is there any last words? Anything you want to tell people?

Please don't haunt me?

Exactly. It's about consent. And that's the thing with these goes. Definitely they don't they you know, they just think they're invited to show up and hover your bed at night. But if they're not asked to, don't do it. And maybe that's why they don't bother me that much, just because I say stuff like that. Well, anyway, thank you for making so many dreams come true for me.

Thank you you two.

Thank you so much to Georgia Heart Star.

Wow.

So much excitement happening on this new launch of the show. I mean, that's just one of the many, many fabulous guests and episodes that you can look forward to. So oh, I'll be bad next week and I cannot wait. I love you all, both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.

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