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Cara Connors

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Roz hops on a Zoom call with comedian Cara Connors to talk about meeting the daughter of the second best psychic in New Jersey, her supernatural connection with her girlfriend, the famous doppelgänger story of Emilie Sagee, the Brown-Pusey House and more!

Want to share YOUR paranormal experience on the podcast? Email your *short* stories to [email protected] and maybe Roz will read it outloud on the show... or even call you!

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Speaker 1

What's that ad? Spooky? I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way.

Speaker 2

Wait a minute, I'm got.

Speaker 1

Im jazz. Hey boo, it's me Roz. How you doing. You excited to talk about things that are not in the news. Me too. Let's talk about the paranormal, shall we. First of all, thank you guys for all the nice messages from last week's episode with very Gay Paint. I got a lot of messages talking about how funny the episode was, which I agree. I really really loved that episode last week. And we've got another great one this week with another hilarious comedian named Cara Connors, and I

think you're going to enjoy those one. But before we get to that, I have a ghost story. It was sent to me at ghosted by razat gmail dot com, which you could do too, just put in the subject line something about it being a ghost story. This one comes from anonymous anonymous rights. I've heard you mentioned a couple of times that you don't get many ghost stories

from New York City. I've lived in the city for ten years without any paranormal encounters, but I'm starting to think that there's something wrong with the place where I work. I'd love to hear your theories. I work for an organization that moved into an new office space last year, and there's something that feels really off about it. At first, I thought I was imagining things or just settling into a new space. But I keep hearing a noise that

I can explain, and it creeps me out. It sounds exactly like someone is quietly knocking on the door to get into our office, or else trying to open the door from the hall. But when I go to look, there's nobody there, and the motion sensor in the hallway hasn't turned the light on, so nobody even could have been there. The door is glass, so it's easy to see people approaching, but I only ever hear this sound when the door is out of my line of vision.

It's especially bad when I'm there alone, but it happens when people are there. My coworker hears it too and agrees that there's a weird feeling in the space. I can't really describe it, but I feel like something is off there. There's a bad energy in the space, like a heaviness, and other bad energy seem to be drawn to it. I noticed that I've been getting more migrains ever since we moved into this space, and the space

itself has been riddled with problems. Appliances, electrical equipment and other things keep breaking, and the battery on my new phone drains too quickly when I'm at work. It just adds up to something that isn't quite normal. I think it's important to note that we are in a new building, but located in the Bowery, in an area with a ton of history. The Bowery, God, that's a hard word to say. The Bowery is the oldest street of Manhattan.

It was a Native American trail and trading route that went on to become a main thoroughfare as New York City developed. The area earned a bad reputation in the eighteen hundreds early nineteen hundreds, with tons of bars, flaphouses, crime, and shady activity, including more than a couple of murders. We are right down the street from where quote Suicide Hall used to be, which is a tavern that got its name because so many people ended their lives there.

But I haven't been able to dig up any history specifically tied to our building or address, but it seems more than likely that there has been bad energy in this area for a long time. What do you think? Am I dealing with some sort of low key poultergeist or maybe an agrigre that has attached itself to the location. Since New York City does seem mostly ghost free, as you and a few guests have mentioned, is this what happens when the energies accumulate in one spot for too long?

Looking forward to your thoughts, Okay, I got I got some thoughts here. Well, I don't think that New York City is ghost free at all. I just I don't know. I just think it's weird. I just don't hear the stories. Now, Yes, there are those theories that ghosts use energy from electrical equipment and sure phone battery, all kinds of batteries and appliances. The theory goes that that is what gives them their energy.

And it sounds like this ghost needs the energy because it's all I can do is do a couple of knocks here or there. It's like carbs electronics are ghost carbs. An iPhone is essentially a ghost cliff bar because it's probably an old ghost or ghosts. These could be ghosts from before there was you know, a city there. They could be turn of the century ghosts. They could be more recent ghosts. Isn't it weird to think that turn

of the century. It could also imply Y two k. It could be a Y two K ghost if you start seeing low rise jeans walking on their own, if you see a floating livestrong bracelet. Of course, none of us know how any of this stuff works, but I do think sometimes like these old ghosts that have been ghosting for years, don't you wouldn't you think naturally that their energy would die down, like they just wouldn't be able to keep it going. But also with this story,

I mean, okay, so it's a new building. There could be some wiring problems, which could be why the appliances electrical equipment die. Could that be some kind of knocking in a building? I don't know, Could there be mold? Well, I mean it's a newer building. Not to sound like a skeptical paranormal investigator, I like to just go with the thought that maybe it is a ghost. But I hope it's not too negative or anything. I hope you can still get through your day.

Speaker 2

Ugh.

Speaker 1

The migraines though, that sucks. I actually know this guy that anytime he's around, I just instantly get a migraine, like not debilitating, but just like I need to lay down. My head is killing me right now. So I mean, if somebody like that dies, could they still have that capability as a ghost to just give me a migraine? I bet it's possible. Also, I think that that person just wears too much cologne and I can't stand it. Okay, let's get on over to this conversation with the hilarious

comedian Kara Conners on Patreon. This week, there's a bonus clip of us looking at a haunted doll name Jacqueline, and there's also a full length episode this week I'm there as well on my second tier, and a little video too. Here we go, It's time for me and Ka Connors on with the show. Oh my god, Kara, Hello, Hi, thanks for doing this. How are you.

Speaker 2

I'm good. I'm kind of nervous.

Speaker 1

Why are you? I'm nervous.

Speaker 3

I don't know, I'm just I'm nervous.

Speaker 2

This is like, I'm excited, but it's not like I don't usually share these views with people. This is not.

Speaker 1

Well, here's the thing you're talking to an audience of people that have heard they've heard reality shows talking about reality stars talking about getting fucked by ghosts. They have they've heard me telling stories about haunted Ouiji boards like this, you're not this is the place to do it.

Speaker 2

Okay, all right, I'm still I don't know. I'm still my breath it feels tight.

Speaker 1

Maybe it's a ghost.

Speaker 2

I'm just like, I really just don't talk about my opinions about any supernatural topics that much. I feel like there's not that many like safe people, and then like I'm kind of agnostic in general about it, and so then I don't know. Here's what I'll say. The last time that I tried talking about it, I met. I was with some friends at a bar and they brought this person from out of town and they said, you have to talk to her because her mom is the second most famous psychic in New Jersey.

Speaker 1

And second, what is the ranking? Who was there a competition?

Speaker 2

I don't know, but it was like said as a thing of pride, Like it was said as like show some fucking respect.

Speaker 1

Because you're talking to this is this person's mother, Yes, of the second hinch.

Speaker 2

Most famous psychic. So but she was there and I heard that fact earlier in the night. I kind of sat with it.

Speaker 3

I was like, let me get a read on this situation.

Speaker 2

And then later on in the night, after a few drinks, I said, Hey, so, I'm kind of curious, like, you know, so and so mentioned that your mom is like a psychic? Is that true? And I'm not exaggerating? And I had three other people confirmed this that were there. This gray shadow came across her face and she turned like really I perceived it as she aged twenty years, Like her face changed and it was like in a movie where

it was like what do you want to know? Like she got really really defensive immediately, and then I tried to make a joke like does she have an office in her house or like does she do her work at home or does she have a separate office, And she just was like really shut down and defensive about it. But we all afterwards, my three friends all separately, we said, did you see that chat Like that thing cross her face?

Speaker 1

Way wit But she was offended that you asked her about the mom. Yes.

Speaker 2

Wow, she was just like cause I think she was on the defensive that people were like gonna be making fun of her or I don't know, but it was.

Speaker 1

I think she was like, wait a minute, you're asking me the you should know that my mom oh is the second I thought that was understood when I walked in here tonight.

Speaker 2

That's actually probably a more accurate reading. But we all, I don't know. I'm just saying the last time I even tried to broach the subject, I saw my first ghost.

Speaker 3

So I'm scared.

Speaker 1

Wow, if I age twenty years talking about this with you today, I'm going to be pissed. I want to see, you know, there's like the Long Island Medium iconic. I want to see the second best Long Island medium that needs to be Yeah, that needs to be a spinoff of that show. Somebody usually gets it right, but like sometimes right. I trust that psychic more than one that says that they're always right to be honest.

Speaker 2

That that family there. There's some stuff, powerful stuff happening. Even I was scared to say that. I was like, should I change the state? I say, the second most part you know that is really who it was? But what if you could google that and figure out who I don't know?

Speaker 1

Well, I'm going to right now, let's google second best psychic in New Jersey. Okay, let's see here, just a lot of ads. Of course, psychic Natalie oh No, that's in Philadelphia, doesn't seem to have it here. Oh man, well, I'm sure that she probably knows we're talking about her because she's psychic.

Speaker 3

Do you know mey people live in New Jersey, A lot of people.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I imagine there's probably at least two. Have you ever been to a psychic yourself?

Speaker 3

I have never been to a psychic.

Speaker 1

No, do you have any reason that.

Speaker 2

I've I've not gone. I think I definitely believe that. I guess my whole like in general, my whole statement in this probably applies to like anything that we're going to talk about, is I think that anybody who thinks that they have all the answers with anything is really ignorant and stupid. So like, of course I think that

things are possible, just because I haven't experienced them. I do have some like negative stereotypes maybe in my head that a lot of maybe psychics are just claiming something, or that they're like kind of people give them information, don't realize that they're giving them information and then they kind of use that, or they're just like very intuitive I definitely think that there's psychics and people with real

power and real vision and ability. But I guess I've never gotten like a direct recommendation you have to go see and talk to this person, and like, I don't think it's their job to prove anything to me, So I don't know.

Speaker 1

I don't trust like when people do that with me, like you gotta go to this person. I went to them. Yeah, It's it's very similar to like, uh, diet and exercise or something like, it's different for everybody. I think. I don't believe that there's one person that knows everything about every single person they've ever met, right, I don't buy it.

Speaker 2

No, I mean, the only psychic I've really wanted to see, I think is I was watching like a Real Housewives. It was like an Australian Real Housewives, and there's a woman on there who is a psychic and kind of claims to be like all these different things and is like a huge shit disturber, and like she did a reading on one of the episodes and all the wives got really upset and angry, and so then I think, like she might actually have some abilities.

Speaker 1

That's a classic Real housewife trope. Is you got to get in. I've also seen it on Little Women Atlanta. Yes, they bring in a psychic that just reads them all. Yeah, and then it just stirs shit up. And it's right, Honestly, it works.

Speaker 3

It's really funny. It's very funny.

Speaker 1

Yeah. I okay, So, so have you ever encountered a ghost or anything that you believe could be.

Speaker 2

I don't know that I've ever encountered a ghost. I mean, I told you my experience that I consider the most supernatural is when I have dabbled in in mushrooms and some of the experiences I've had there. I wouldn't count that as a ghost per se. But I guess, like, what's your definition of a ghost? I'm not really.

Speaker 1

Well, yeah, I mean, who knows, but it I think all that kind of stuff's connected. But for me, I always say that I believe that there is something too, particularly hallucidia gens and any kind of mind altering substance. I do think that. Like I remember when I started doing podcast, if someone would if I would read something crazy, a story that someone told or whatever, I would read other people their comments being like they were just on drugs or whatever. Right, And as time has gone on.

I'm like, well, you know, when you're drunk, you're kind of like a baby, like in a lot of ways, you're you're you're shutting off that adult all the shit you got to worry about as an adult. Like, there's so many things that are on our minds that we don't even realize, and all of that is pretty much shut off. And just like with babies, they say that they can see the ghosts and they're they're closer to the spirit world because they're not worried about all the

shit that we're always worried about. So why wouldn't that be true with when you're you know, on a substance.

Speaker 2

Yeah, your inhibitions can be lowered or you're like more made more aware maybe of your surroundings.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Yeah, my mom.

Speaker 3

Would tell me ghost stories.

Speaker 2

Like she said that her house growing up was hand and grew up in like Irish Catholic Chicago, like sixties. There were like eight kids and they like lived She said that she saw ghosts all the time. And my aunt, who's very like rational and like doesn't talk about anything like this, confirms it. She was like, yes, we did have a couple of ghosts that lived in the house.

So I think like I always wanted to have that experience because it was just told as kind of these like fun stories, and I was also morbid as a kid. Like I would always when we would like, this is

so weird. I don't know if off it, but like we would always go for like bike rides in the cemetery because there's not like a lot of cars, and I always would look for like any headstone that was like a kid or like someone that was younger like when I was a kid, and like I always thought that I could like feel it if they were there, and like, I don't fucking know.

Speaker 1

So what happened when you did mushrooms?

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, Oh my god, I'm being right now. No, I'm not. I'm completely sober. No, but I think I'm gonna do them this weekend, uh to escape reality. Yeah, but okay.

Speaker 3

The the experience that I had.

Speaker 2

When I did a very large dose of mushrooms like a few months ago, was it was the first time where I was the entire thing was very positive, but there was a certain point where I started feeling like very much like I was in this like weird middle place, and then I kept asking my girlfriend if we died. Like I was convinced that I had died and that we were in some sort of middle place or good place, and she was like, no, we didn't die, And I was like, but how do you know? How would you

know if like that happened. But the part of it that's also kind of a little scary or spooky is that she didn't do any mushrooms and I was the only one who did it. But then at a certain point she like entered the trip with me and was fully part of it and like high on mushrooms but took and ingested no much. I feel like, you don't believe me she did.

Speaker 1

Well wait, I'm trying to figure out. Wait, so she in your trip, was a part of.

Speaker 2

It, yes, but was not on any like has in the past, but like did not consume any. And then I was like, did we die? Are we ghosts?

Speaker 1

Like?

Speaker 2

Because I just felt so like peaceful slash disconnected. And then there was a point where we started communicating without speaking.

Speaker 1

And she was communicating back yes.

Speaker 2

And was not on mushrooms, And then like I felt it, I was like, I don't know if this is like a spirit or a soul or like whatever. We are whatever energy is happening, and I was like, we are communicating not verbally, through whatever energy sold whatever you want to call it, inside of us and you're speaking like telepathically.

Speaker 1

Have you talked to her since then? And She's like, yeah, mushrooms and I was talking to you without moving.

Speaker 2

We talked about a bunch of times. We've we've tried to like talk to my friends about it because I'm friends with so many like lesbian witches, and We're like, what was that? What was that? What happened?

Speaker 3

And they haven't been to give us a good answer.

Speaker 2

They're like some are like, oh, you're very connected, or like oh, that could have been ego death or that, but nobody has said that couldn't happen. And I'm like, I know that it happened. I experienced it. But now I feel like Demi Levado trying to tell people about I'm gonna go find a support group after this.

Speaker 1

I mentioned would love to hear about this.

Speaker 3

Yeah, So I don't know, what do you think?

Speaker 2

You've heard a lot of these different So do you think that that was good?

Speaker 1

This this exactly kind of thing? But I believe I believe that that's possible. Why not. I believe in telepathy. I'm a big fan of like people are in our lives for a reason, and like when you're really connected with them, you can there's something to do with your intuition about that. It's just sort of like how you could you could be like, wait, I have a feeling I need to call my close friend and then you call them and it feels you know what I mean

like that. I do think that that's true with certain people that you're close to in your life. I don't know if it's they were put in your life for a reason or from being around them so much you get in tune with them somehow. I don't know.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but it just feels like it definitely felt it did feel like it went into the level of supernatural, like it was not. It just it wasn't like, oh, we're like so in like there was something else happening.

We also have had this thing where like she got we got tattoos together once and like she got a tattoo on her arm and I got a tattoo on my leg and we didn't say anything to each other, but for three days my arm was hurting in the spot that she got her tattoo, and I didn't tell her for three days, but I kept being like, ow, like what the fuck? And I didn't have a tattoo there. I told her after three days and she said, that's been happening to me on my leg.

Speaker 1

Oh my god.

Speaker 3

Oh something.

Speaker 2

That's why I'm like, something is happening. And I'm not like I don't normally. I am like often pretty cynical about like a lot of these types of like stories and you know, or I try to like keep an open mind. But I did experience.

Speaker 1

That that's something.

Speaker 2

Then that's something that I just I need answers. I think I have to go to the second best psychic.

Speaker 1

Let's call Demi Levado. Let's see, let's see what we can find out. I've been trying to get a hold of dem Levado since I started this podcast.

Speaker 2

We have to just tag the shit out of them, and let's see if we can get them to at least look at the story.

Speaker 1

I haven't had Demi, but I have had Matthew Scott Montgomery. Shout out, Matthew Scott Montgomery. He's very sweet to come on here. Okay, I want to tell you about something that a story that I recently learned about Okay. I haven't come up with a name for this segment yet, but essentially I googled something okay, and so now I'm an expert on it. Oh okay, great. This is the story of Emily Sage. This is a story about a doppel ganger. Are you familiar with that term?

Speaker 2

Yes?

Speaker 1

See, I feel like that became like a really popular term on Facebook, Like ten years ago, there was like doppelganger Day and all people posting like what celebrity they think they look like?

Speaker 2

Right?

Speaker 1

But it's also there's like the paranormal definition, which is it kind of goes along with astral projection. It's like when a living person has like a ghost version of them also moving around.

Speaker 2

Whoa and is it like tethered to them or they're doing their own things separately.

Speaker 1

It's from what I usually hear, it's like separately. It's like, oh, my partner was at work, but they were walking around my house. I always think that it's possibly, in some circumstances, an excuse for like somebody's like, oh, my partner is supposed to be at work, but like really like your partner came home for a second to like do something and they're like, I wasn't here. It must have been

a ghost. It wasn't me, Like, I feel like there's it could be that sometimes, right, But and sometimes people think that it's a bad omen like with like, are you familiar with astral projection?

Speaker 3

I've heard the term, but I don't actually know what that means.

Speaker 1

It's like when the spiritual body leaves your physical body and people do it like when they sleep. Oh yeah, you can kind of like go walk around town and do whatever. Yeah, but so it's like, yeah, it's like your spirit and your body get disconnected. Okay, So maybe that's what it is. But this story is real interesting.

Speaker 2

Okay.

Speaker 1

Now I will say off the bat that the validity of this story has been in question because it takes place in eighteen forty five. It was originally in a book. It was written in a book in eighteen sixty by Robert Dale Owen called The Foothills on the Boundary of Another World. And I'll tell you more about the validity of it. But a lot of people believe it. So

this woman, Emily's sage. She was a teacher and in sixteen years of her teaching career, she had worked at nineteen different schools across France, So right there, it's like, why what's going on here? So it turns out it's because she had a ghost twin that would like follow her around, Okay, which to me, I'm like, teachers don't get paid enough. They should have they should be allowed to have a doppelganger to help them.

Speaker 3

Taking some of her workload for her. That was what the.

Speaker 1

Ghost seems like it Okay, you know, it's like that would be great to have like a ghost twin grade in the papers. So in eighteen forty five, she's teaching at this all girls school in Latvia, and thirteen of her students, these girl students, they saw her ghost twin standing beside her, mirroring, mirroring like everything that she's doing, which I'm picturing like a version just like making fun of her behind her, you know what I mean. At one point, apparently she was seen helping a student fix

her dress. Apparently Emily could not see the ghost, but everyone else could, so she would actually get exhausted when it would appear, and she was said to have reported that it would do things that she thought about doing.

So it's believed that she had kind of like some subconscious control of it, so she would be like, oh, I should be doing that, and then like the ghost twin would go do it whoa, which is kind of amazing whoa, because but I also feel like that could get you in trouble, Like I don't know, you're if you're at like a store and someone's like mean to you, you could like have your ghost win go like slap them or something.

Speaker 2

But you can't even see the ghost twin or really control it. You just know that it's affected by your actions, and other people are telling you that they see it. One does Emily suspect that she's a ghost? Like did she ever get worried that it's like the opposite, like if everybody else is seeing it?

Speaker 1

Doesn't seem from the reports of this, it doesn't seem like there's much info on how she felt about it, because she must know she's been fired from every Oh well, we're gonna get to this in a second. So uh one time, this is like the big story. She's gardening outside of the classroom and there's like another teacher supervising

the kids. They're in a sewing class, and the substitute teacher lady leaves for a moment, and all of a sudden, Emily's doppelganger comes in and sits down in the teacher's seat, and the kids are like, wait a minute, she's right there, and Emily is outside gardening, like they could see her.

So these two students are brave enough and they go up to the toppleganger and they start touching her, and they could run their fingers through her, and they said that she felt like she was made out of cobwebs. Spiderweb lady. So later she said that she had wished that she was in the room supervising the kids, so it was like she like made that happen. It became every single day at school, and parents started to take their kids out of class because they're like, you're the

teacher's creeping us out. So people would actually walk through the doppel ganger and they said that it would feel like thick fabric. There were so many complaints that she ended up getting fired.

Speaker 2

WHOA.

Speaker 1

But the thing that sounds is like people liked her. She was a good teacher. Every school that she got fired from, they were always like, oh, no, she was great. It's just she has a ghost twin that's freaking out the kids which I met, Like, what is that job interview? It's like, okay, so we see here, you've worked at a what is it nineteen school in the past sixteen years? What's what's up with that?

Speaker 2

What I mean what I feel like it's probably was easier in eighteen forty to not like check references any resume. Yeah, Like you're not gonna like you could say this is my first job, or like I was at this one school. I mean, how are they? Yeah, how are they? Like?

Speaker 1

Okay, we're gonna write a letter to your last school. We're gonna put it on a carriage, and in six weeks we'll get back to see what they say to her. I'd be like, listen, you're gonna get two teachers for the price of one. Yeah, it could be worse.

Speaker 2

And co teaching is very popular now, Like a lot of classrooms have like thirty six students and they have two adults, So makes obviously, Yeah, I think it makes sense. I'm wondering where did the ghost twin come from? Was this like was she initially conceived as a twin and then one of the twins died?

Speaker 1

Like or.

Speaker 2

Because that what's the there's like a term for that where like and then it kind of gets like absorbed, Like you know, if someone's pregnant with twins, they'll like lose one of the babies, and sometimes like I don't know, so maybe it's like something exact.

Speaker 1

Well here's the thing she was never heard from again, Like basically, this whole story centers around this one. Like I'm sure there were a lot of like I want to hear about all the other schools, but the one that was like reported was this final school. And people have looked into how true this is, and they found a woman that had a very similar name that lived

in that same area. But some people suspect that maybe she was saying using a fake name or she would change her name to try to reinvent herself, so it's kind of hard to track her. I don't know if this is a real story or not, but either way, that kind of a thing does get reported.

Speaker 2

I mean a lot of yeah, a lot of people reporting it, and like what is the but people do lie about things. But also like why would they come forward with that, especially back then, I mean you wouldn't want to be associated with that probably right, Like it would be pretty dangerous to like admit that you have any kind of like connection to that, because it could be perceived as like connections to evil or dark spirits

or they they right. So there's it's like if someone was going to stand up and say something, yeah, it wouldn't like help them to do that. So maybe that lends itself to it being more true.

Speaker 1

Does let the lady have her job?

Speaker 2

Yeah, just get I mean to her creepy.

Speaker 1

Ass cobweb as twin, just get used to it.

Speaker 2

There's things, there's worse things than also, like if I was Emily, like, wouldn't maybe you be the one in the classroom helping your kids and maybe have your weird ghost twin be the one doing the gardening. Like I think, why don't we flip it so that you're the one supervising and then have the creepy ghost out. We don't know that. It sounds like they're a little creepy. Have them be doing this stuff, like maybe it was a priority issue. She's like, oh cool, I have this ghost twit.

I'm just gonna let them supervise the kids and I'm gonna go do something relaxing.

Speaker 1

Right, That's not how it's supposed to go.

Speaker 2

Right, So maybe that was the issue.

Speaker 1

I'm sorry, I have to wonder when she's getting freaky deeky, what's going on with the ghost twin.

Speaker 2

I mean, I would hope that. I think if the person that's getting freaky with Emily is smart, that they would at least extend an open invitation to the I'm just like, if if you were the principle of a school in eighteen forty and you have twenty parents come to you and say, we're really scared this person is like has a ghost attached to them? Like, you don't

fire that person, Like have you not? Like I guess there weren't movies then, but it's like if you're not like read any book or movie, like you don't piss off the ghost, like you don't fire you start a new school, your kids go to a new school, that's what. And then the ghost teacher just stays and it becomes

a haunted house, Like you don't kick them out. So I think it's the same thing with sex, Like you wouldn't you wouldn't be like, hey, can you make sure, like you would just have to be down and like into that. I think, oh my god.

Speaker 1

But that's why to me, I'm like you have to tell you would think she would tell her employees like listen for her employers like I'm a great I'm a great teacher.

Speaker 2

Think you do that, You're just.

Speaker 1

But you're going to see a cobweb feeling version of me.

Speaker 2

I mean if I was her, I would have just honestly, like to protect myself, I would have just like gas lit everybody around me.

Speaker 3

If they tried to say they saw a ghosts I'd be like, are you okay?

Speaker 2

Like I would be. Then I'd be like, what are you talking about? Your you need to get treatment. I'm scared for you. That's what I would have done, because it wouldn't have been safe.

Speaker 1

Let's call the second best psychic in Long Islands and.

Speaker 2

Hurt.

Speaker 1

You want to hear some ghost voices? Yes, okay, it's time for or ev Plase. Have you ever heard of an EVP?

Speaker 2

I don't know. I don't know that that sounds.

Speaker 1

It stands for electronic voice phenomena. It's when ghost hunters believe that they have captured a ghost speaking. Oh okay, so I go to YouTube. I look. I spend hours of my life looking at alleged ghost voices, and I'm going to play two of them for you, and I want you to tell me what you hear this ghost saying, and then I'll give you some options about what is the correct answer. So this first one, they're both posted by the Ky ghost Hunter, which I believe stands for Kentucky.

Now this person, we don't know what the location is, so who knows what the context is? I don't know. But what is this ghost saying? Okay, it's real quick, let me play it again.

Speaker 2

To me, that sounded like a parakeet.

Speaker 1

Okay, but what was the parakeet saying?

Speaker 3

Okay, what we're done? Okay?

Speaker 2

I didn't hear words.

Speaker 1

Okay, Well, let me give you some options and maybe this will help you. Is it A see you guys? Is it B you seem nice? Is it C? The machine died? Maybe they were at a haunted McDonald's and the ice cream machine it's broken, the machine died or or d but we have fries. Okay, let me play it again.

Speaker 2

I mean, truthfully, I don't really hear words. If I hear the rhythm, I'm wondering if I heard the word guys in there. So one of those had the option.

Speaker 1

To see you guys, A see you? Guys.

Speaker 2

Maybe see you guys, but like it really just it could be a possessed parakeet who flew into the side of it. It could be the ghost twin of a parakeet, the.

Speaker 1

Ghost twin of a parakeet. See you guys, That is what they believe, it says. I kind of hear it. I kind of hear it. Wait listen, see you guys, see you guys. Are you?

Speaker 2

Are you saying the like rumbly voice under the screechiness is what you hear?

Speaker 1

Wait? I don't hear screechiness. Well, yeah, there is kind of like a background hum, but it's it's like a whisper that's going see you guys.

Speaker 2

Oh, I don't hear that at all. Like to me, I'll play it for you. What I just heard you play? I hear yes, and then there's like a little underlayer of like like that.

Speaker 1

But let me try it again.

Speaker 2

Oh it's I mean, I hear like a grumbly overturn. But that one would not convince me. That would not make me say this guy caught a ghost.

Speaker 1

Okay, well I got one that is going to change the game completely.

Speaker 2

You don't have to prove anything to me.

Speaker 1

This one. Well, this I got real excited about. You know, I've heard about hundreds of haunted locations. I have never heard of this place before. Okay, there's a place in Elizabethtown, Kentucky. It's an old historic house and it is called the Brown Pouse House.

Speaker 2

Okay.

Speaker 1

I actually called them because I wanted to make sure I was saying it right. And it's pucy. It's the Brown Pucy House, but it's brown hyphen p u s e y. You could even go to Brownpucyhouse dot org, which I have been.

Speaker 2

So you called them to find out how to say it correctly. But you insisted on the first time.

Speaker 1

Brown puss because because I keep getting it wrong. It's a hard word to say pucy. It is brown, puce brown. I gave it just a little bit of flavor, pucety, I gave it a little accent. And it was built in eighteen twenty five. For many years it was a boarding house, and then in nineteen twenty three the Brown Pucy House was restored and it was given to the community by doctor William Allen Pucy and doctor Alfred Brown Pucy, as well as missus Sally Cunningham Pucy and the related

Hastings family, the Brown Pucy Genealogy Library. You can find there, the Pucy Room Museum, and you could even rent the Brown Pucy House for any of your Brown Pucy desires. Wow, so here we go. Here's an EVP at the Brown Pucy House. Okay, okay, there's a lot of background noise in this. Okay, You're like, this is gonna change everything.

Speaker 2

And then you play me the sound of an electric fan getting caught on a shoelace a warehouse. You're like, no, no, no, no, this I call them. This is gonna be this is gonna be pretty big for you. So all right, let's hear it again. Let's hear it again. I am starting to feel like these sound clips that you're playing are just like kind of you giving me like an ink blot test, Like is it A?

Speaker 1

What's all the commotion? Is it B? Yeah? No shit? Is it C? Come on, sister, is it D? Welcome to the Brown Pucy House. Okay, let me play it again.

Speaker 3

What's all the commotion about?

Speaker 1

They believe it's B?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 1

No shit?

Speaker 2

What did they say when you called them? Did you ask them about this clip? No?

Speaker 1

Because this wasn't posted by them. This is posted by the ky ghost hunter.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, so this is like unauthorized ghost noise.

Speaker 1

Yeah, this is like a ghost hunter happened to be there and captured a ghost voice. When I called the Brown puc House, they did not answer. So it says in this clip that it says, quote this EVP was caught within minutes of being inside the historic house. A female investigator says, you had better believe I brought my crucifix, and then it it says, yeah, no shit. Listen now that we know it's yeah, okay, this is how it sounds. Yeah, no shit. Okay, now listen for that. Now listen for that.

Come on, you're no fun.

Speaker 2

I'm trying so hard, my heart is just open. It just sounds like foil being rubbed against each other.

Speaker 1

It could be that too.

Speaker 2

I am not saying that.

Speaker 3

Here's the thing.

Speaker 2

I can talk a big game here, But if I went to the Brown Pussy House, would I be saying this, No, I wouldn't.

Speaker 3

I would be respectfully saying thank you for sharing.

Speaker 2

That with me. Okay, I'll admit that. I'll own that.

Speaker 1

But this has plans to go on down to the Brown piece.

Speaker 2

You know, I.

Speaker 3

Didn't have plans, but I am intrigued. Are they open?

Speaker 1

Actually not? When I called, I don't.

Speaker 2

Know if I want to go on an adventure, if I haven't uh confirmed someone will be there, I I will say that did you're I'll say that that that did actually change some things for me, I think.

Speaker 1

But not in the way I was hoping. Okay, one last thing. I'm just going to rapid fire a couple of paranormal phenomenas and tell me if you have a story, if you believe in them, whatever, Okay, Okay, what do you think of UFOs?

Speaker 2

I think they're real?

Speaker 1

Really why?

Speaker 2

I think that there's just like a lot. There's so many people that have had sightings, and I think that our universe is very big. Damie Levado, and I believe DEMI sorry.

Speaker 1

Do you believe that they live on another planet or in the ocean or here?

Speaker 2

Oh? The UFOs? I think they're coming from another some kind of other planet or space. I hadn't heard in the ocean. That's interesting because right there's so many unexplored places in the ocean. I think it's possible, totally.

Speaker 3

I think they're coming from somewhere else.

Speaker 2

I don't know why they would come here and not either you know, just turn back around.

Speaker 1

Or they come here so they can feel better about where they live. Okay, what do you think of bigfoot?

Speaker 2

Bigfoot? I'm not as convinced. I'm not as convinced I think it. I think it's a bear.

Speaker 3

And also it's like in all different forests, people are looking at all different.

Speaker 2

It's like where this over the place.

Speaker 3

So that's it's like it's not centered enough, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1

Okay, what do you think of like synchronicities? Do you into that kind of stuff? Yes, I definitely think of any that you've experienced in life.

Speaker 2

Let's see.

Speaker 3

I yeah, no, I definitely believe in that.

Speaker 2

Hm hmm. I need that I've experienced those I feel like happen all the time.

Speaker 1

Mm hmm.

Speaker 2

If you're paying attention exactly, those I definitely think happen all the time. And I do think, you know, I do believe in kind of a hokey way, like if it's you know, if it's not for you, like let it kind of pass by, Like nothing is like forced, like everything is kind of meant to be or everything maybe happens for a reason in some way. Maybe not everything, but a lot of things happen for a reason, and so yes.

Speaker 1

That I say, yeah, I absolutely feel the same way as you. You gotta pay attention to it. Have you ever had sleep paralysis?

Speaker 2

No? Okay, great, this is the weirdest doctor's appointment I've ever read to. You're taking my medical history and just asking the weirdests.

Speaker 1

What do you think?

Speaker 2

Yeah, this is a like evaluation I feel.

Speaker 1

Okay, Okay, let's do weed boards. What do you think? Have you ever done one?

Speaker 2

I've done them. I think everybody is pushing and I don't trust any of these cheating bastards. Maybe it's maybe it's possible, but I have to think that there's uh possessions and items in the world to have more like kind of virtual realm and value that you can't just buite.

Speaker 1

A toy store, like the like the doll from eBay, like the dolphin Jacqueline, Jacqueline. Are you a crystal person?

Speaker 2

Mm hmmm, me too.

Speaker 1

Yeah, So what do you think about those like do you think that they really harness energy?

Speaker 2

Or I think that like they make me feel better in a small way, and ultimately that is what I am looking for.

Speaker 3

So they are powerful whether or not.

Speaker 2

And like I keep you know, I think the power that that's not like a non existent power. Like people have given me crystals and I keep them and they're like, oh, that's my lucky crystal because I really love that person, or that they were thinking of me. Or if you're in a store and you're like drawn to something for some reason and then you give it to a friend, like I think that's really nice. Yeah, and they yeah, they make me feel good, So I believe in whatever that whatever that is.

Speaker 1

They're so pretty too. I likely I have a crystal problem. Uh oh not not not like that, like I buy too many crystals. Yeah, well, Carara, I guess that's it. I guess the doctor's appointment is complete.

Speaker 3

I feel like, yeah, I feel like you gave me a lot to think.

Speaker 1

About reconsidering ever talking to me ever again.

Speaker 2

Mainly that yeah me, but also I want to reassure you that you look like, if anything.

Speaker 3

It looks like you've like reverse aged.

Speaker 2

Like I don't know, maybe like I am not the guest with like the most ghost stories that you've ever had, but I feel like something about me relaxed you and like your fate like you're glowing. You seem you know, like your shoulders have like settled a little bit.

Speaker 1

So thank you.

Speaker 3

I know that was your fear off the top of the episode.

Speaker 1

Yeah it was. But I hope my botox didn't relax because that would be bad. That's not what I was going for, because that would give me that twenty year aging.

Speaker 2

I I am really though. You did give me a lot of different things that I never thought about or knew. I didn't even know what astral projection was. I didn't know I was supposed to have experienced the paralysis as I'm supposed to.

Speaker 1

I've never had it. A lot of people have. I never have. But well, but yeah, can you tell everybody where to find you and what you got going?

Speaker 2

Oh?

Speaker 1

Yeah, sure, and give me an address for the Ebays? Yeah, please be real specific.

Speaker 2

You can send all of my mail to Mount sign I Hospital, where I will be voluntarily checking myself in after this call. So, me and my ghosts Stoppelganger Twin are going to be going on tour this whole summer all throughout the US and Europe. And uh, you can find information about that on my website, Cara Connors dot com or my Instagram Cara cons Comedy. That's the only place I'm active on social media the other ones. Uh, just keep me humble because no one likes me on

the other platforms except Instagram. Oh no, no, that you don't have to like feel bad, like okay, yeah, well then good you didn't even feel That was like a canned.

Speaker 1

I feel like we're fighting.

Speaker 2

I'm sorry, No, we're not fighting, but like, okay, I'll just clear the air. I'm just kind of like disappointed with the second SoundBite because like I was ready for my life to change, and then like I really like I bought it. I met you right there, like I opened up my heart heart to heart. I was like, let's do this, like it's almost pride. And then I felt like, well, your.

Speaker 1

Life has changed. Your mood changed, so in a way I did make your life change. Did you know about the Brown Pousse House before?

Speaker 2

No?

Speaker 3

I never knew about the Brown Posse House. And that's another thing I'm gonna do.

Speaker 2

I'm sure they're close to the holidays, but I'm going to be calling them as well because I want to get some answers.

Speaker 3

But no, we're not fighting. That was my ghost twin.

Speaker 1

I'm fine, Thank you, Cara Connors. The Brown Pucy House I'm obsessed. Go to patreon dot com slash rosdres Feles link in the description of this episode to hear a bonus clip of us talking about a haunted eBay doll and a bonus episode this week. Hey, can you rate the show five stars and tell your friends about it? Subscribe, write a nice review, or leave a ghost story in a five star review, or email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com with a ghost story or

a submission for a listener episode. I am on Instagram at roz Hernandez TikTok, and Twitter is at its roz Hernandez, and I'm gonna go ahead and talk to you next week. I love you all, both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me. Hey, back.

Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

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