What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky and joky. I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Wait a minute, he I ghosted.
As Nandaz Plice. Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal. We're gonna get to Kara Conners in a moment, but first, I have got a story in my email from Natalie.
So.
Natalie writes, my grandpa, Grandpa Leo, was this brilliant child psychologist from New York City who likely experienced his own ghostly encounters while studying the psychology of Nazis and Germany for the US Army as a Jewish man. Oh wow, okay, but that's for another time, Natalie writes, So this story is kind of long, so for time, I'm going to cut it down a little bit. But basically we get
a little bit of background here about Grandpa Leo. Natalie writes, he was the family jokester, all while being tender, curious, and earnest. He loved my older brother, the first grandson. Oh the cavelling that ensued. They had a close relationship, even though it was cut off far too soon. He would love me too, but he only knew me as a wriggling, big cheeked baby, like we're talking Bassett hound level cheeks, cheeks so round that Grandpa Leo called me beckels,
which is the Yiddish word for little cheeks. I promise this detail comes back later. So one night, my mom is alone with us kids my dad's out of town for some reason. She remembers she was having a nightmare a great monster chasing her and gaining incredible speed. She remembers losing her legs from under her and turning around the monster lunging. She wakes up, gasping for air. Before she's able to catch her breath, she hears Grandpa Leo's voice like he was standing in the center of her room.
He says, careful, Jeanne, A dream like that could give you a heart attack, but nobody is there. She hears his voice simultaneously talking through the wall to the room I shared with my brother. My mom is so scared she can't move, but she wills herself out of bed to check on us. My brother is awake, sitting up in bed and smiling he tells her Grandpa Leo was here. He said, he's going up. He makes a big gesture with his arms, arching his hands overhead in a swimming gesture.
Less than an hour passes before the phone rings with the news Grandpa Leo died in his sleep of heart attack. Maybe two years later, I'm in the car with my mom. I was always singing nonsense songs in my car seat, and today was no different. My mom heard me laughing at some point and didn't think much of it until I started singing a song that made her blood run cold, a song she hadn't heard in years. Apple Juice, Cookie Juice, I'm gonna have some beckel Juice were the lyrics to
the song. Now, this is not a song I had ever sung. I was an infant when Grandpa Leo sang it to me, and I had never uttered the word beckel before. I kept singing it while staring into the rear view mirror as though it was watching someone sitting next to me. My mom pulled the fuck over and allowed herself a moment to be thoroughly freaked out. I mean, what the actual fuck. It's a classic story of clairvoyant babies scaring the living shit out of their parents, as
if raising young children isn't already difficult anyway. I still know and love that song. When I sing it, it still makes me smile. I think it's because it's the one piece of my Grandpa I got, and I feel lucky that it's so specifically mine. I hope to one day sing this perfect nonsense song to my own flappy cheek babies. Oh my god, Natalie, that's a good one. I love it. Thank you Natalie so much for sending that and if you would like to send me a story,
as always, ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. Okay, I got to talk to my friend Kara Conners, who has a new comedy special coming out. You will hear all about that in a little bit. Kara has been on the show before. We had so much fun. The last time when Kara was on that was when I first discovered this historic haunted place called the Brown Pucy House.
I do remember we talked a bit about that, and I have talked to several people now that have been to the historic haunted home in Kentucky known as the Brown Pucy House. And I love the Brown Pucy House. I haven't been yet, I've thought about going to the Brown Pucy. I hear it is delightful. Let's go now to Carat connors on with the show I got someone here with me Straight for Pay? Cara Connors Hi, Hi.
Cara.
Reaction.
Sorry, that is the great show that you do in Los Angeles called straight for Pay that I was referencing.
Yes, but you're not.
Are you willing to be straight if if I give you money?
Yeah, I mean, let's let's talk.
I mean, I don't know if you and I getting together would really constitute anything straight.
Yeah, we're just a couple of gales. We're just a couple of gals talking about man and going shopping.
That's right as is, alright. But yes, I am certainly willing to be straight for pay if the right offer is made.
Yeah.
I'm upping the amount though, because I think people are getting.
A little to get a little sassy about it.
You know what's real funny is that shirt that you sometimes see that's like, I'm not gay, but twenty dollars twenty dollars or something like that. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's funny. I wonder if there's any ghost walking around with that shirt on.
There certainly has to be. I would think that that would probably get someone's asking to fit. Wow, maybe why they are a ghost.
I'm not giving you any money, but I would very much appreciate if you would tell me some ghost stories because I happen to know. Okay, let me tell you my part, because I always have to figure out a way to make somebody else's story about me.
Yees.
So I was performing at a lovely place, the Crocodile, which is a hotel and music venue with a comedy venue called the Hereafter. It's really cool. It's in Seattle. Yes, I was there and I started talking about ghosts with the people that worked there, and they're like, do you know Carrot Connors And I was like yeah, and uh they were like, Carot Connors saw a man in this building disappear because they said, this place like some people say it's haunted, it's an old building. And then they said,
Krot Connors saw a man disappear. And I said, well, Carot Connors is this straight woman. I know she makes men disappear all the time. I don't even know what that means. But then I was like, wait a minute, we have to talk about this, So what happened?
Okay, So you know that hotel.
It's pretty small, right, like it's a boutique hotel, and already it felt like it's very nice to you walk in and it's really nice, but it's very futuristic, like they didn't really have anybody working that I saw, Like they have people working, but you kind of check yourself in remotely, you get the code you walk in, and so it was like I came off the plane like I hadn't even met any people. Like I got let into the building, I didn't see anybody. I never saw
anybody at the front desk. Then I came and did my show, I still didn't see anybody. So it was when I was leaving and waiting and I saw what I thought was a man kind of just walking by into this little hallway. I also thought that I saw him at one point sitting in the little lobby waiting area, But it turns out there was no other guests while I was there. So who did I see? And it was not one of the employees. Because the employee was a woman.
What did he look like?
This is where it's gonna start to get checky, because I am not a witness because I don't even remember what I look like. I know when you just you know, when you just know it's a ghost. That's why no one believes these stories, because it's all like a goo. I started singing to them like Demie Levado, and that's when I knew.
Did you know that this place was haunted?
No? I had no idea that it was haunted. But I remember telling Morgan. Shout out to Morgan the queer booker there, and they didn't question me. They didn't guess like me, And that tells me that they also know that there's ghosts that are there. Why are there no other guests? It's a cute hotel. There's always shows going on. Who was this person? I'm imagining that they performed there at some point. That's what I'm thinking.
Ooh, what do you think?
I forget what the history is, but I feel like it was like there a long time. Yeah, it was like something, not a hotel. I think for a long time. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know, but yeah, I'm down. I'm down with it. I believe you, thank you. I do remember that that little lobby in the hotel had really good candy. Yeah, they had bowls of delicious can't
like good options. Yeah, not the typical stuff you'd find, Like it was like good Halloween, little bagged like prepackaged in a little packaged individually.
Yeah.
Anyway, so that's where I would be.
And they had a record player. That's why I'm thinking they were there.
It felt like somebody from another time and maybe that's where they choose to hang out now making this alp in my head, but it's like they could hear the music downstairs, they put a record on. They see these people come in. No one believes them, so then they're having a good laugh. Maybe it's a weird comedian.
Maybe they saw you perform and they're like, wait, I want to make Cara Connors don't leave.
That's who was in the emptycs.
It was actually just ghost Oh yeah, the seats were full. You just couldn't see the people were just dead. Yeah, exactly. But I don't know.
I think that I just like anytime if I see something or get a feeling like that, I tend to just tell myself that it's not real or try to come up with another explanation. But I really like something was going on there and it was not This was not. They were from another time and another dimension. And that's that's all I have to say now being defensiven though you said you believe me, and that's all I'm gonna say about it.
Well, Seattle is expensive as shit, Okay, yes, and so I feel like, yeah, if you love Seattle, the way to use Seattle is once you're dead and you don't have to pay rent.
That's the only way people can afford to live there. What about all the abandoned Like I remember the Uber driver telling me, you know that all these tech companies were like buying up these big apartment buildings and stuff, and a lot of them are basically like vacant, and there's like just all these empty rooms and stuff. Maybe they're not empty either, Maybe there's literally a full society that is happening, and then it's just the people that refuse to see it.
Those are squatters. Okay. Yes, I did not know much about like squatters' rights and stuff until I watched that show on Netflix that's called Worst Roommate Ever. And did you see that.
I've seen some of that. Yeah, that is really really scary. You can literally get evicted by somebody that yeah, comes into your AIRBNVR apartment and then you're getting kicked out scrazy.
Which that title of the show is accurate. Yeah, but since we all talked so extreme all the time, I thought that worst roommate ever, Like I thought it just meant like I lived with this guy that would never change out the you know, the dishes and the dishwasher. No, it's like people that murder people and bury them underneath
your bedroom when you're sleeping. But there were a couple of stories about people that would just like move in and then be like I legally have rights to live here even though I'm not paying and you can't kick me out, and there's like no, Yeah, anyway, that's what a ghost is.
I think so too. The ultimate squatters pretty much cheap asses.
Speaking of squatting, tell me about a psychic squatting their abilities on you.
I like, you know, here's.
One thing I'm known for, smooth transitions.
Yeah.
Some call me a transition expert.
Wow.
Yeah that's okay, Yeah, mainly gender wise. Why am I so silly today?
I like it.
Go for it, Caro, tell me about the psychic Okay, so wait, I have to make this about me. Yes, So I was doing your show at Dynasty's Typewriter in Los Angeles, and I ran into Carrot Connor's backstage, who says, I got a story for you, and here's what it was.
Go. I think I was sitting on that creepy little ladder that leads to like a weird attic or nowhere space, and I feel like I might have jump scared you as well. And then the photographer was going to take a picture of us, and I think we looked like it looked like I was holding you hostage.
That sounds about right, Yeah, this because I did.
I was like, I have to tell you this story. No one else believes me. Okay. So to set the stage, this was the first day of Pride last year at a lesbian bar in San Diego. Okay, So, by all rights, I should be allowed to have a good time. This should be my safe haven.
I feel, yeah, I think so.
So I did a show. It was already a bizarre night because Tiff from Queer Alt made them showed up.
Now I'm not familiar with TIFF's work, but that is a show that's also Netflix.
Right right, Netflix quer Ultimatum. They were like one of the couples that's like a whole other thing. Basically, I was trying to sell tickets, so I made this Instagram video saying that actually all of the cast at Queer Ultimatum was coming to my show because the show was filmed in San Diego, and at the end I said that I was kidding, but people famously don't watch till the end of videos on Instagram. So I did end up selling tickets as a result. But Tiff did show up.
So wait. So Tiff was like, wait, everyone's going. The whole cast is going to be there. Why the hell am I not going? Okay, I need to buy a ticket.
So yeah, and then Tiff came. I got on stage, I saw them right away, and I was like, Okay, when am I going to bring them up? Like, at some point I'm going to have to bring them up on stage and be really awkward with them, you know.
Talk about a Queer Ultimatum. Yeah, when am I gonna.
I'm gonna ring.
So Tiff came to the show. They were super nice.
After the show, I'm standing there outside in the patio with a couple of people. We're passing around a joint. Everything is going great. My friends turn and leave me for a minute. And all of a sudden, this person approaches me and they actually had a friend with them. But this person approaches me and they say, I'm receiving a download and I need to talk to you. Okay, And obviously I'm familiar with things like this because in the queer community people are constantly getting downloads and all
sorts of inspiration and saying things out fuck it. So she says, I'm receiving a download and I need to tell you something. I'm like, okay, and I have been pretty cynical most of the time, but sort of things are starting to like loosen up a little bit where I'm like, I'll hear you out. So she said, I need to tell you something. I am a psychic and I have to tell you that you have an oral fixation, you have a blocked root chakra, and you are somebody
who really likes marijuana. I feel like that's what I needed to tell you, and I feel like probably everything she said is true. But I don't think that I needed a psychic to tell me that I like marijuana, because I was.
As, you are smoking a joint.
So I was like, I think I'm getting played right now.
But I'm like okay. So then she starts talking to me, and she was one of those people that had really intense eye contact and like was had kind of a pretty calm energy, but a lot of intense eye contact and was just kind of speaking, and I was really conscious of trying to not give away any information because you know, then they can kind of like, oh, is somebody you have a is there a Mary? Is somebody have an August birthday? And then people like I do
you know? And then yeah, So I was really just like, all right, let me hear it. Yes to say so. Then she just kind of went into this whole thing and basically was explaining how my root shop. And I don't know anything about chakras. Maybe you do. I tried to google it later, but the websites are all from like ninety seven.
I know Chakra Khan, Okay, great, I love her work, but I don't know chakra.
But like root chakra, crown chakra. She said that my crown chakra was open, but my root chakra was blocked. I said, well, I don't know what that means. And then she said that can be childhood trauma that can be connected to your womb. You have to unblock your root chakra and that's connected to your oral fixation and all of these things. And she just kind of kept going. And at first I was kind of laughing, like I
was kind of being a jerk. I was kind of like, okay, you know, like cool, like kind of just like looking for my friends whatever. But then it kind of just started to like feel like a tunnel because it was like all her energy and just like really intense, and she wasn't break contact, she didn't stop talking. Then she was kept going, kept going, and then the things that she started to say just started to really kind of
actually make sense. I kind of went from like, oh yeah, cool, thank you, this is great, and then I just started like tears just kind of started coming to cheeks and I didn't even know what was exactly making me feel emotional.
And then the person that she had with her was like her silent sidekick, who was just standing really close, also making intense eye contact, not even speaking, and I.
Don't know the teller to her pen like, so.
Then my tears and I'm looking and I remember looking and I'm like what's going on? And the other person's just kind of nodding, nodding, not saying anything, and then she just keeps going, keeps going, keeps going, and then she kind of like wraps up whatever the hell she was saying, and it was very like stream of consciousness, but she would just pull these random things and then and this is something that you feel in your pain here and like, I don't know what the hell happened.
But then it was like this whiplash she snapped out of. It was like, have a great night, and then they walked away. And then just on cue my two friends who don't know where I went or what the hell happened, and they're like drunk and walk up to me and they're like hey, and then I'm.
Like and I just like sobbing because I didn't know what the hell just happened.
And then I tried to explain. I was like this pecond came up to me and then they told me my food.
Shop and they're like okay, it's okay.
But like, oh my god.
I don't know what happened, but I will say the next day. I then didn't smoke weed for like sixty days in a row, and that like I don't know, I don't know if she hypnotized me. I don't know if I was actually in an episode of Doctor Phil. I don't know what happened.
It seems almost like you got hypnotized, you like, really wait into a zone with this person.
The thing is is like it was non consensual.
Okay, Okay, sure I was.
Just chilling, but I guess it's a good thing.
But it's still kind of Yeah, I've never had somebody have anybody a psychic or otherwise that they've been talking to me and then like, you know, all of a sudden, I'm just crying. I don't know it was.
Yeah, psychics need to ask for consent. Don't you think you can't just spring that on people?
Do people ever come up and like you remind me of somebody, or you have this energy or I'm picking up on some you know, it's like we all pick up on things. But also like I can't just go up to somebody and line at a taco truck and be like you remind me of my friend who passed and energetically you like, you can't do that to people.
I know, right, I know crying, I have to ask a question that.
Okay, I'm trying.
I'm you understand, I'm not being like annoying. But I have a lot of friends that are queer ladies and they tell me a lot of usually in like the courting phase of these relationships, that'll be like she called me and told me her dream about me, or like she looked at our star charts and they align. And is that, from your experience, a thing that happens a lot in the queer female community.
Yeah, I think so.
I feel like I've been with more kind of people that are into the astrology side versus the dream analysis. But I definitely know that. I mean, the charts are a huge thing, and it's definitely like a confirmation biased because you know, it's like even when you're friends with something, then you plug in your coast are and they start reading everything.
You're like, right, I.
Know, my god, wait wait this is really scaring me. And it's like you can you can make like anything you know feel significant or important.
So I feel like when I've historically.
Really liked the person, all of a sudden, like I have a crystal ball, I'm like, I know, Madam serrony, and then when I'm not that it's the person, I'm like, eh, I don't know.
I you know, like a lot of people have the same birthday.
You can interpret these things so many different ways. I have one friend that did this to a group of friends and was like, uh, this one person has the same like our one friend has the same exact everything as Beyonce.
Oh, so that.
Means like she's gonna be like Beyonce and have the same kind of impact on the world. And I was like, what about mine? And they were like, hmm, oh I don't. Yeah, I had that. I had the Kelly Rowland one. No, Kelly Rowland is still iconic, of course, no, but mine wasn't even that. Mine was like not And I was like, okay, well now I'm now I'm jealous. And I didn't even ask for this.
Right are you?
What are you?
Are you a Sagittarius?
Uh, I'm a Libra.
Oh what do you know? What I mean?
Libras are like friendly and likable.
Now because I do a thing where I don't know what any of this stuff means, but I do like to give a reaction.
Yeah, no, you have to, otherwise I would have been disappointed. So I do appreciate.
Okay, So what are you? Let me do what I do? What are you?
Okay, I'm a Taurus.
Oh yeah, that's not good for me. That doesn't work for me.
Yeah, I know, it's like an excuse for people to basically like be rude as well, right, kids like app parties and stuff.
It's like you can just kind of write somebody off.
Wait, you were born a certain way that means I can't I can't get along with you because you were born a certain way that feels offensive to me.
It is offensive. I mean I'd rather be I suppose like I'd rather be like excluded for being a Taurus or like a aries moon or something, than like maybe being kind of cast aside for other parts of my.
Bridality even I can't control.
I guess though.
But yeah, it's also like one of those things where it's I do know a decent amount about astrology, but not a ton where if somebody did say something like bad to me, I would really take it to heart, and then I would kind of just blindly.
Believe them because I would just assume that they knew more.
Maybe I shouldn't say this, I'm gonna get like cassaged by somebody.
Tenth Can I tell you a famous story about an alien situation?
Please? Please?
You're Canadian, right, I'm American.
I'm also Canadian. Like now I'm a dual citizen.
But you're from Canada.
No, I'm from Chicago.
And then I went to grad school in Canada, and then I started comedy in Canada.
So I've got you.
Know, you've got ties, You've gotports, you've.
Got ties to Canada.
Definitely have ties.
Because I was just looking for Canadian I feel like I haven't talked about Canadian paranormal things. Yeah, and we just had Deb d Giovanni, the hilarious love Deb who doesn't so fucking incredible God. So I was looking for Canadian stuff and then I was like, wait, let's keep searching up here. There's a lot of land up there. There's got to be stuff. So I found this one and I am now going to present to you the Falcon Lake UFO incident of Stefan.
Mitchellac Oh, oh my god.
Most of my research comes from a twenty seven article for CBC by Darren Bernhardt. Okay, article, don't come from my research.
I thought you were meaning like multiple like that there were multiple different sightings that are all just in this one article. Or is this all about the Falcon Lake one?
This is all about one. Okay, this article was an in depth Yes.
No, CBC is ex excellent reporting. I'm sorry to go ahead, thank you.
We're gonna go now to Falcon Lake Woods. Oh and Manitoba.
Oh okay, I believe it already.
Have you been to Manitoba?
Oh? I sure have, Winnie.
So this is May of nineteen sixty seven, h remember it well. Stefan Mitchillac was a fifty one year old Polish immigrant and industrial mechanics slash amateur geologist. So he's out there looking for silver and quartz crystals. He's looking for quartz crystals for the girls. He says, ooh, they're gonna make some jewelry out of this, honey. This is something he did regularly. Okay, okay. Now I'm actually gonna take a quote from this article because it made me laugh.
It says that he was quote startled by a gaggle of nearby geese that erupted into a clattering of honks. Oh, so he says, what are you What are you honking about? There's some big honkers on those geese over there. He looks up and he sees two cigar shaped objects hovering in the air with a red glow to them about forty five meters away. Now, of course they're shaped like cigars, but they're not the size of cigars.
They're huge.
One of them decided to land, and the other one stayed up there for a minute, and I think kind of thought about it, and then it was like, yeah, you know, I don't think my mom would be happy if I went to Earth today and her UFO like, I'm gonna bounce, I'm going home. So that one flew off, the other one lands, and Stefan's like, okay, this looks like, you know, some kind of military aircraft. I don't know
what that is. He didn't want to get too close at first, and so he decided to stand back and sketch it for about thirty minutes, and he's like drawing a little picture. He's looking at it. Then he goes closer and he notices a sulfur like smell, accompanied by warm air and the sound of the motor and hissing
of air. One of the doors was opened, oh, and he could see bright lights inside of it, and he heard voices speaking to each other, but it was drowned out by the motors, so he couldn't really tell what they were saying. So, I don't know what they were doing. They're just like parking at let's open the door. They're tailgating. They're playing about to pull out the corn hole. And he's like, hey, who's in there? And then all of a sudden they go quiet, but they didn't say anything.
They're like, oh shit, we thought we were alone. So then they say nothing. So then he tries his native tongue Polish. Nothing. Then he moves on to German and Russian. This guy that's quadruple lingual, right, they still don't speak any of those languages. So he says, he goes closer, and he had his welding goggles with him because of the quartz, and he puts him on to protect his eyes because it's like, you know, these lights are like
beam in. It's hot. He doesn't know what's going on, and he sees inside light beams and panels of different colored flashing lights, but he doesn't see any living creatures. I don't think he actually like went in, but I think he just like went to the doorway and then he kind of stepped back and then three panels slid across the doorway, locking him out. Oh, and he says he touched the smooth metal aircraft and the heat that was radiating off of this aircraft burned his gloves.
Oh.
The aircraft then turned counterclockwise and he was struck in the chest by a blast of air or gas.
Oh my god.
That pushed him backwards and lit his shirt and cap on fire.
Oh.
He rips off his shirt and his cap and the UFO flew off.
Oh my god.
He stumbles his way back home and at this point he's feeling like nauseous and disoriented. Whatever that gas blast, Yeah, that sulfur like hot fire blast. It made him disgusted, nauseous. He's vomiting as he's stumbling through the woods.
Whoa.
He's treated at a hospital for burns, and for weeks he's suffering from diarrhea, blackouts, headaches, weight loss. It sounds like o zem book. The burns on his chest formed a raised grid like pattern. What the There are pictures of this if you google it. Soon after, the media starts catching wind of this, and all kinds of people start bothering his family at his home. They're all wanting to know more. His son is getting bullied at school.
Of course, people are doubting his dad's story. You know, this was investigated by various levels of the government. His burnt clothes were later retrieved and examined, kind of inconclusive of what cause did. A round circle of about fifteen feet diameter was found at the alleged landing site with no vegetation underneath it, but there was, you know, where there was vegetation. It was almost like a burnt burnt a little hole in the ground. Yeah, they took soil
and clothing samples. I'm not sure exactly who, but somebody did. They tested them and found that they were very radioactive. Who A year later, pieces of metal were found burnt into the cracks of the rocks and were also found to be radioactive. A psychiatrist examined him and found him to be sane. Their words were quote, he's very pragmatic, very down to earth. Part in my pun, That's what the psychiatrist said. Part in my pun is part of
the quote. This is viewed as Canada's most documented UFO case. He maintained his story until he died in nineteen ninety nine. He never once said he thought it was extraterrestrial. So he just told a story and said this was very unexplainable. His son Stan co authored a book about it called When They Appeared. Oh, not to be confused with my autobiography about when I came out as non binary, which
was also called When They Appeared. His son recalls his father sick and bad, with the smell of sulfur and motor oil filling the room. Anyway, do you believe it?
Okay?
I believe a lot of it.
Oh, we've got notes.
Well, okay. I think that it happening in Manitoba makes it more believable for me somehow, you know, Like, cause Manitoba is a huge province. There's a lot of space. I feel like if I was an alien, I would probably go somewhere I wouldn't go to like a popular city, you know. I would maybe go a place like that was more desolate or there weren't a lot of people.
I think the fact that he's an engineer and that he spoke all these languages and the psychiatrist said that he seemed mentally stable, like those are all good indications. It doesn't sound like he was like seeking attention. So it's like, what would saying something like this, like, what would that get him you know, because if it's just making people think he's crazy or making his family's life harts, so that makes.
It believable to me.
The only part that's like a little that I'm kind of wondering about is like if he had like welding goggles and gloves and all this shit, Like did they do a toxic college your report? Like is it possible that he was like drunk or doing something and he burned himself on his equipment or you know what I mean. Like it's just like that's the only part where I'm like and also like why is a UFO using motor oil? So basically like we're fucked, Like the climate crisis is
gonna get us. Like even the like futuristic like aliens and you even they're like, yeah, we gotta go to shell Like it's you know, it's like they don't have anyone and it's like why would you touch it? I mean, this doesn't have to be believing or or not, but like if I say something like that, I would be curious, but I would never get closer, Like wouldn't you be scared that they would just kind of grab you? Or like now I.
Would touch it, you would I'm that person.
Yeah, there's no way.
I can't help myself. I feel like it smelled like motor oil, but it seems like they had technology that we don't understand where they can shoot out blasts and you know, so I think to an earthling, we'd probably be like, it smells like motor oil and sulfur, but who knows what it is.
That's like the reference. Yeah, I mean the fact that there's like physical evidence like that there was you know, the indent in the ground, or there were these kind of metal pieces that were in the rocks, and that
that makes it more legitimate to me. But yeah, I mean I do always think about, like, okay, could this have been you know, like a drunk old guy that goes fishing and then kind of falls asleep and then he has a vision and then he wakes up and he actually let himself on fire during his dream, and then it was like, oh my god.
This is what I always think. I always think that these kinds of stories are that somebody was doing something shady or stupid and they were too embarrassed to admit why their clothes were burned or why they were gone for two days. Then they come back with this, which is a long along road to travel when you could just you know, either say what you really the real reason? I don't know, so I wonder how many times these stories are that.
But it sounds like a lot of people took them seriously, you know, so that feels like that legitimizes it, like if all these people are investigating I mean, but he did a sketch, It's like this guy might be a little weird. I don't know. You see you phone, You're like, get my sketch book out.
It's like he's an amateur geologist. That's what it said in the article, you know.
Like so this is the guy that would be like send it you would be on the subway, and that he'd be like dry you again without your consent or something. I don't know. There's there's a couple of things that it's like I'm assuming this is at night, or maybe I should have asked was this does it say? Or is this like in broad daylight?
I think it was in broad daylight?
Okay, IAU. That would be you know, and there was no one else around, of course, right of course, like except for the geese. Except for the gaggle of geese I mean that part too. It's like animals definitely like pick up on stuff. But also if there was a man that is rolling around on the ground with his weird welding equipment and crystals and again he let himself on, maybe these go crazy over that too.
I don't know, right, My one skepticism is like, Okay, he or one of his friends or somebody could have went back and like made a circle burnt in the ground, or like yeah, they could have figured that kind of stuff out, like figure out how to make it radioactive. I don't know, but I again it comes down for me like why would any way do this, Like based on just the simple things that I know about this guy, he doesn't seem like the kind of person that's like I need a good story to tell. Yeah, this is
going to gag the children. Honey, I need to show up to the next cocktail party and go, girls, you think your story is good, let me tell you what happened to me, Like, yeah, I don't know, because I know people where I'm like, oh, yeah, no, that did not happen. How come every time you go somewhere the craziest thing in the world ever happens?
Of course, I mean there are people though that definitely like attract that kind of cast, but it's yeah, they're they're always like seeking it out or you know, oh, I'm doing it for the bit, and it's like, oh, like this, honey, like you should do less. Bit like this is your friends are scared for you for working.
Yes, exactly, but I mean the sixties.
This was happening in the sixties, so it's like, yeah, he didn't have a TikTok account. He wasn't like trying to send this to you know, tmz or some shit like that. But like so he just went home and told his family and then like did they go to the hospital, Like I want to know. I want to know, like who was the person who? Like who are these officials? Was it like the royal like the Mounties that investigated this?
No, I think it was like very legit.
Right.
Also, like in those days, it would have been a book or a movie that you might be trying to sell to get rich on this, I think, right, And that's kind of a short story.
Like yeah, I mean the fact that the son was able to squee the whole book out of it, you know, did he sell publish it on Amazon? Or like, what what's the details of that? Like, I don't have not read about this book?
Hey, speaking of selling things online, can I show you a haunted eBay doll? Sure, it's time for a segment I call the dolls are living? Okay, jiha, can you show us this doll we got here, Kara, I would like you to meet Margaret.
Oh, okay, this is Margaret.
Margaret is a diva on me. She has got a swirly LeMay dress with sort of a poofy back to it. It looks like she has a crystal necklace.
Actually, I was going to say there's something on her.
Neck with a choker. She's really stunning. I mean she's got almost like a Charro hairdoo bangs. Yeah, definitely pageanty pageanty, but also like I feel like the dress kind of is giving the lady from like the lady Alien from Mars attacks like that kind of very form fitting, that's swirly.
Kind of looks like two gowns that were sort of put together. I mean, I'm kind of thinking there was the doll's gown and then there's like the leftover shards of whoever this doll killed. I think that's what the gold tool.
So she kills someone and then she goes you know what that gold lamez is cue? Yeah, that would go well.
And even the hair it looks like it almost looks like that little girl from like the Grinch who's like the gringe, you know, but also Dolly Parton.
She didn't blend the top. No, the top hair piece very well. Yeah, you either have to put a headband there a Tiara Tiara would Oh maybe she did have one and she lost it during one of her murder spreeze. Well, actually, I don't know that that's the story with this one. Let's see what it says here, because she comes of course with a biography.
And what's in the hand? What's the little white there?
Is that a heart? I don't know that a Valentine.
Well, Margarette, is it Margaret or Margarete? R E T T.
Will fuck you.
Up if it's with r E T T E? Is that ret or ratt t E?
Oh, I've never I've never seen that Margaret.
It's like Margaret T, Margaretine. You gonna call her Margaret T because that's how I'm telled.
Yeah, I think that's what it is.
Okay, So it says this single, hard working woman's name is Margaret T. She says she had blonde hair, blue eyes, and was five foot nine. She was forty two years old and during the time she was alive, she owned her own company. Yes. Oh, she was a very successful and wealthy lady who enjoyed the finer things in life. She enjoyed going on cruises. She loved sipping on champagne and while eating fancy food like s cargo and caviat Okay, she was murdered by a man who worked for her
and wanted to steal her money. She is very particular and doesn't like things touching or covering her vessel aka the doll she's in. Oh, she would like to go to a fancy home with nice things. She doesn't mind pats or kids as long as they don't touch her.
Oh my god.
She is fine with other spirit dolls and items. What the lo She communicates through dowsing, rods, pendulum and thoughts in my heads that I confirm with her.
Oh God, let's see here.
And she likes to mess with this person's phone and electronics sixty dollars.
Oh my god.
So if anyone's looking for that, make sure you have a nice home with good things.
Why the hell would I want that around me, my kids or my dogs.
Why is this person selling it?
Honey, I'm not buying what you're selling because obviously this doll has fucked up your whole life, and now you're trying to get rid of it, and instead of like throwing it in the trash because it probably will just show back up in your house, go for it and over you're gonna try to sell it, like.
You might as well get sixty bucks for it, I.
Know, but sixty Like it's such a It's like they're clearly not doing it for money.
So it's just like, I don't know.
This doll is definitely is definitely creeping me out, and like there's something that's not I think the person who wrote this maybe is part of a gone girl situation.
I don't know, I'm.
Not I feel like this doll's gonna open its mouth and it's gonna have like a full flipper.
Oh, I'm sure.
Well, I do believe this doll is possessed. I'm suspicious of the current owner. But yeah, there's a lot of like what's in the hand? Are they wearing flats?
It seems like Crystal.
Is it a microphone?
I don't know.
As I'm reading this, I'm thinking about how I've become super obsessed with going on gay cruises as a comedian.
Oh my god, I just love it.
It's like such a lifestyle and it's so fun.
Oh my god.
But I want a companion to come with me.
Stop.
You know, there's just downtime and people party and I'm not really a partier, and like, I wish someone would come with me. And I mean, she likes cruises.
Stop, you're gonna be miss creepy as all of the cruise with you.
I mean, do you think people would think I was weird if I showed up?
But it would be like you know what, They'd probably be into it.
Then you would try to get it to repel people, and then they would be like into it, and then they're because there's people that are like that. They're like, wouldn't it be funny if I walked into the scientology building? Wouldn't that be hilarious? And it's like, not, it's not gonna be funny when you're missing I don't I don't funk with stuff like that, like this doll.
I don't want her near me.
I would like to make it clear that we always welcome newcomers, anybody that wants to come in to the Scientology building. It's a beautiful community.
And that's actually where you're recording from, right, Russ.
It's a bunker. But yeah, it started.
At if there was a wide shot. It's just you in the basement of Scientology Building, sitting directly across from this doll who's pointing a gun at you as your record.
Tom Cruise is here too. Can I buy you some ghost voices?
Yeah, as long as you take this dollar, get your choice.
It's God, I've got It's time for ev or eve plice, So you have done this before. I go to YouTube and I find ghost recordings, so people believe they've caught a ghost saying something. Yeah, you know, I will. I do. Remember the last time you were on it was the introduction to the Brown Pucy House, which is a place in Kentucky, Elizabethtown, Kentucky, and I had found an EVP of this place called it's the Brown Dash Pucy House and Pucy yes, and I called them to confirm because
I thought it was Pousse. But it's Pucy Pucy of course. And it became a hit a lot of people who were messaging me talking about the Brown Pucy House. And I've talked to a few people in uh, Kentucky that are like, oh, I know the Brown Pussy House, which is a haunted place, but it's also like a wedding venue and beautiful home. Anyway, So that happened the last time we played this together. This time, no Brown Poussie in sight.
Okay.
Instead, I've got one that is at a person's haunted house that they live in. And this was uploaded by Nightmare Paranormal, and I want you to tell me what Nightmare Paranormal's ghost is saying.
Okay, let's hear it.
That's good, all right, let me play it again.
Well, I'm German, volume up. Okay, one more time. I think it says second window please. I think this person was.
Okay. You know that makes me think I think about this all the time, and maybe I'm not the first person to ponder this. What's going on in the first window?
Mm hmm that's where they're collecting payment, no confirming your order?
Right, It's been years since I've used a first window, and I go to a lot of drive through I've always passed by that first window. Yeah, and I feel bad for the first window, right because there's nothing happening there.
I think that they have a camera.
I don't think it's just the mic, and I think that they just send people that they kind of want to learn more about. So the first window, and that's.
Okay, Be nice, Cara, because I just said, nobody ever invites me to the first window.
Be nice because you have a creepys doll probably sitting in the TI for seat holding.
A Yeah, that's probably why she's in a seatbout wearing.
Like an alien sweater. You're listening to like these weird ghost sounds through the stereo.
I go to Taco Bell and I go, uh, Marguerite would like to know do you have caveat Caesadas.
She's very high class.
Okay, let's get back to the voice. A second window, please, is not what nightmare paranormal thought?
All right, let me hear.
Yeah, let me play it again, and I'm gonna give you four options. One of them is the correct answer.
Okay.
Is it A let's eat gen Ooh maybe there's somebody named Jen that they want to let's eat her.
Okay, is it B.
That's his friend. Is it c Let's be again.
Let's be again?
Or is it d root chakra Stop? It might be I think it's.
That that's his friend.
Maybe it sounds like I guess it doesn't have to be sinister, right, like, it sounds kind of casual, like it sounds like, yeah, maybe it's just like, oh, that's his friend. That's what I think.
Wow, Cara Connors, you are correct. Nightmare Paranormal believes it said that's his friend. Let me play it again. Oh I totally hear it.
Boss's front.
Yeah, yeah, I totally hear it. Good job, Nightmare Paranormal.
Where did they say they captured this?
Did they that's haunted?
Just just in the house. They were just like sitting and then they were recording themselves.
Yes, when you're known as in a Nightmare paranormal, right, you probably always got the equipment going right right. Okay, here's one more.
Oh god, Okay.
This was posted by the Paranormal Seekers and this one was in Ontario, Canada. Okay, and it's at a place called Kowarth the Settlers Village and Bob Ka Bob cagean Bob Cagian Bob cajun.
Yeah, oh yeah, from the song Bob Cajun. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, I've.
Never been there, Bob Cajun, Ontario. What is it saying? Okay, this one's more of a whisper. I think you hear a human in the distance first, and then whisper like that. Let me play it again.
One more time. I think it's that.
I think it's like somebody, a normal woman talking, and then I think it's some kind of ghoster pulter guys going.
Let's get them.
That's what it sounds like a little demon.
Well that's not what the paranormal seekers thought.
What did they say?
Is it a why are you bitter?
Oh?
Is it b write me a letter? I feel like all these are kind of shady, because that's something I could be like, write it in a letter, take it to the post office, Yes, and you can send it whatever. Okay? Is it c? The right side is better? They could be right, they could be right wing.
It's probably that it's probably Trump supporter.
Or is it d the rude chakra? All right, here we go.
Right side is better?
I mean I kind of hear that they believe it's write me a letter?
Why? Why would the why?
Maybe some a time when people write letters and they wanted a letter, maybe because maybe the paranormal seekers were leaving and the ghost was like, write me a letter, be a pen pal.
Oh my god, I'd be like, you write me a letter. Want to know what the hell you're saying.
But let me play it again now that we know it's write me a letter.
Okay. I do hear that, Yeah, you're gonna write. I hear almost like you're gonna write me a letter. Like it's like a command. Yeah, like you're gonna. Yeah.
Let's do one last thing here. I'm just gonna fire off a couple of paranormal unexplainable phenomenals and uh, let me know what you think about him.
Okay, I'll solve them.
What do you think of Bigfoot?
I think that I think that it could be real.
I think it's a little suspicious that it's spotted in so many different places.
It's like it's a world too or honey, you think that he's gonna I don't know.
It's obviously he is going everywhere. So I'm open to it. I'll say that I'm open to it.
They say it's a heat, but the famous, the one that we all know, the video. They say, is.
A she really?
Yeah, because if you look closely, she does have breaths and curvy hip kind of wow, she do like she has like a juicy ass. I'm not gonna lie, she's got a BBL. I think she might have a bigfoot butt lift.
That's right.
What do you think of time travel? Do you think it's possible?
I think it's happening.
I think that it's just, uh, it's it's definitely possible. I mean, think about how big space in the universe is. There's gotta Yeah, I think it's one hundred per happening and it's going to continue. Who knows. We could be in a weird I'm definitely into like simulation theory and shit like that, so I'm like, oh, yeah, there's time travel.
Ooh, okay, one more. What do you think of people that can move things with their mind? Do you think that that's possible?
Yes, ooh. I think there's people that are just more in touch with like certain energies and they're you know, those kind of like Luna love good like people and they just Yeah, I think some people can kind of read minds a little bit. And then I think some people do have the power. I mean, hello, have you seen Matilda? What do you think that was based on?
What was the documentary?
Yes, with Danny Defio of one hundred percent, because have you seen those Like there was like an episode of like Goop Lab. I mean, let's talk about hard science. There was an episode of Goop Lab where they those people where they do like bodywork on people and they're not even touching them and stuff. Yeah, and then the person's like whole body is like and I don't think that they're moving that person's body. They're maybe like moving
energy through it. But it's like, yeah, of course, I think it's definitely possible.
Do you I think if that's possible, then yes, I think, yeah, that it's proof that there's energy that we cannot see that right. Yeah. It could either manifest as a ghost or being able to move things without touching them. I don't know. But I'm also somebody that every time I see a magician, I'm like, well, this person actually has the gift and that's not this is not an art form with secrets or whatever that people practice, or this is like somebody that has ability a warlock.
Yes, I would love to go to the Magic Castle with you. One day. I think we would have a.
Water Oh my god. I every time I see a magician, I'm like, well, I guess this is I didn't think Jesus was going to look like this when he came back, but I guess this is him, and I will follow him everywhere from now on.
Yeah, that's exactly who they wanted the Magic Castle. We would be the perfect audience if you would get the fuck out of here.
I did a cruise with a gay magician, but I didn't get to Jesus. We had shows at the same time, and I wanted to see it. So I want to see a gay magician pulling rabbits out of things.
Yeah, oh my god, see it. Hey, that's really funny.
You have some comedy that people need to see. Yes, tell us about it.
Uh, my comedy special just came out. It's called Straight for Pay. It's on Apple TV and YouTube and other places that people get stuff. But yeah, it's my first hour special.
Congratulations.
It's really exciting and also nerve wracking, and there's not there's nothing supernatural about it. It's all just you know, very serious, deliberate heart sciences like me.
Well, our audience loves comedy. So luckily you're talking to the right people. People. Go watch Straight for Pay on Apple TV and Amazon. Just google it, you know, click on whichever one comes up.
Yeah, hey, thanks.
For being here.
Thank you for having me.
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