Bailey Sarian

What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky andooky. I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, I said, Byron's dress. Hey boo, it's me Roz.

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This was such a fun conversation on today's show. I got to talk to Bailey Sarian, who you know from Murder Mystery and Makeup on YouTube and all of our social media and the internets. She is very popular and so fun and gorgeous. And we talk today a little bit about this connection between glamour and and being into the spookiness and this community that exists out there. And I'm so happy that people that are into that stuff

How are you? Thank you so much for having me.

Thank you for doing this. I thought I would try something different, and I'm going to try doing my makeup while talking, which that's a skill in and of itself, especially like when someone's looking at you, and when I watch videos that you do, I'm like, how does she look so flawle? Like when I do makeup, I'm just like making the scrunchy faces I'm doing like one like I look ridiculous, But I'm gonna try it. I think that's a skill that you're very good at.

Honestly. I mean, you guys see the finished version of it all. But behind the scenes, it's struggling for a good four hours because it's so hard sometimes to talk and do your makeup because you're just focusing on blending or whatever you're doing. And yeah, it's it's a struggle behind the scenes. But I'm learning.

I'm usually a music person when I'm doing my makeup because then because I think the beat keeps me going. But like, I don't know, I'm usually not Like when I would do drag shows back in the old world, I was usually the chick that would show up like fully done as everyone else is doing it just because I get so distracted.

But yeah, it's very here, we are distracted. But I normally when I get ready, I like to watch either YouTube videos or I don't know, a lot of Oprah I find. Yes, I find all of her old episodes on YouTube and I just binge watch them because I mean, I just I don't know. I miss Soprah.

Oh, I know, God, she used to have some juicy episodes back in the nineties. Yes, So how did you get into all this juiciness, because you clearly also loved the drama. You love the mystery, you love the murder, the paranormal a little. How'd that all start for you?

For me? I where did it start? So? When I was younger, my mom was a nine on one dispatcher and she can take me to work with her, which we laugh about it now, but looking back, it probably wasn't the best idea to take your child to listen to nine on one calls because nobody's calling to say anything positive or nice, Like, you know, everyone is going through something serious. I used to sit there and listen

Is this the one that the documentary just happened?

Yeah?

Yes, which then there were also people because the thing. I talked to a lot of murder people. I have a lot of friends that are in the murder world, and it's it's always like there's sometimes crossover. I always feel like when I talk about ghosts, but people started sending me because they were saying that it appeared that there were ghosts in a video. Did you see all that I did? But I heard it got debunked though.

Yes, it was like the neighbor's children, and people were thinking it was ghosts when yeah, if you just watched like the original I think posting of the video that showed the clip it was like his kids. I don't know, but you know how the internet is, they kind of jumped to conclusions very quickly without even doing some simple research. Are I know, I fall for everything. So I've learned over time to like, okay, can't believe everything. Research it as best as.

You can totally. But so so when that case came out, that's you really got into that one.

Yeah, I was just staying up until like three or four in the morning, thinking I could solve the mystery. But then I just had all this built up knowledge on this case and nobody to talk to about it with. So I was like, I'm just going to my makeup and then talk about the case and upload it onto YouTube. So I did that, and it actually it turned into

You know what's so funny is the way that I first heard about you was people that listened to this podcast started sending me videos of you, And at first I was like, well, it's just like murder. I don't talk a ton about murder on the show. But then I started like falling in love with you, and I'm like, oh my god, Like there is this community of people that love spooky and glamour. There's like a weird crossover.

What is that? Is that?

Is that just being a lover of drama?

Maybe I actually never thought of it like that, but maybe I think we like a surprise.

Huh.

We want to be surprised almost. I don't know. I don't know what.

I don't want to be involved in drama, but I like to hear about drama and I like to look dramatic. Yeah, to clarify, yeah, no, I know.

I never really thought of it that way. But you're so right because I'm the same way. Like if I'm going to do my makeup, I'm going to I'm going to do my makeup. I'm not going to go through like oh.

And you do you know that's why, Well, that's why I love So I'm not I'm not that old, but I'm I'm old enough where I learned how to do makeup from books and so like the makeup tutorial world I've I've looked into over the years, but I've just learned from drag and from just like not not I'm basically just not from YouTube and a lot of the times because I want I want like big like. I think that the makeup culture has evolved a lot over

Thank you. I'm the same way though. I love drama too. I've always just loved the like nineties porn star Pamela Anderson, big hair babes.

I've always feel like the word as babe, like she was such a babe or a vixen.

Yes, barbed wire tech too on her arm, just kind of trashy, but still glam. I just love that and I live never heard of it. It's a lifestyle. It's not true.

It totally is. God. I'm really like I try not to analyze things too deeply when it comes to this, but I'm like really analyzing, like I'm thinking of a certain just a community of people that why all these things appeal to us, Like it's just so interesting the things. Now, do you like movies that are I mean, my Verican movies are horror, But I also like what people would consider it to be, like a bad movie, like so bad it's good. Are you into that kind of a thing too.

Yes, I love those. I love a bad movie or a cheesy horror film. Did you actually watch the one on Hulu it's called bad hair Obsessed me?

I watched it the other day, Oh my god, a killer weave.

Yes, and a lot of people were saying how awful it was, and I was like, this is the best movie ever. What are you guys talking about? Like, did we watch the same movie? It was?

I don't think it was bad at all. Now that's not like to me, that was like a good horror movie. Now there's movies that are so bad they're good, you know. And there's been studies that have said that people with high IQs tend to like quote unquote trash, and so I take that as a compliment.

Yeah, I don't even look that up. I'll just believe it to be true.

There's this movie called Microwave Massacre that I just watched the other night. That is trash. I found it on Amazon. It's from the seventies and it is not really a horror movie. It's kind of more of a comedy but like wants to be a horror movie. And it's about a guy whose wife makes some bad food. Oh the wife's so bad at cooking that he decides to start eating humans and hilarity ensues. Anyway, I had a good time watching that.

Actually sounds incredible. I've never heard of that one.

Okay, well, we shoul talk about ghosts because I feel like that's what we usually talk about here. Do you believe in them?

So I do now, But a couple of years ago, I really it's not that I didn't believe in them. It's more like I just if it's real, cool, I'll leave it alone. I don't need to know anything more. And if it's not real, then that's cool too. Like I just never really thought about it, and I never had any experiences with ghosts, so I don't know. But then a couple of years ago. A couple of years ago, I got a new job and me and my fiancee needed to move to Los Angeles and we needed to

Are you the type of person to like, would you even consider like it could be a ghost?

No?

It doesn't cross your mind, No.

No, because I mean again it's like, why would a ghost choose to be here? You know, if I were a ghost, it'd be somewhere nice.

I wish it worked that way, right, But I think about all the like scary like abandoned buildings that have ghosts. I mean, if you could pick a place to be a ghost, where would you want to be?

I'd be traveling. I mean, can't ghost travel. I would want to see the world as a ghost.

Oh well, you know, speaking of la ghosts, there's like like Marilyn Monroe, she gets around as a ghost. Apparently she haunts like ten different places. So I don't really know how that works.

Oh interesting, I didn't know that as a spirit, can you have your spirit spread around in multiple locations or as a spirit do you only have one like.

You get a PC piece? And well, from what I know, and I'm not an expert, but it seems that there's different energies manifest in different ways. So it seems that there are some that are, you know, more of a residual haunting, which is sort of like a ghost that doesn't even know what's going on necessarily, it's just it's like they usually say, like a record playing over and over again of an imprint of that spirit's life in one spot. But then there's intelligent ghosts, you know, that

Yeah, I know, right, is it fun though? I mean maybe?

So what did it seem like for you? Like what was going on in the place?

So when we first moved in, it was just this instant feeling of dread. And at first I kept just excusing it as We've just moved. It's a new location, we got new jobs, like, there was a lot of change going on in our lives. So it was just kind of like, Okay, it must be that. It's just a lot of change, and I'm just feeling overwhelmed. But as time went on, just weird things would happen where

I didn't wake him up.

No, of course not. He was sleeping with the baby. I was like, wake the fuck up, get up, and that freaked me out because I don't know why that happened. Of course, it could have been a power surge, but it was different. I don't know what it was, but it was different. And then after that, every time I would lay in bed, I just got a really weird feeling about our closet, like it was uncomfortable and I

Was it like a grandma style lipstick?

It was a red, I believe. And I think I went too bold because okay, it seemed like whoever it was, I had pissed them off. Because that same day, I was walking up into my room and I had this bookshelf to like the left of me, and this pick sure frame falls out of the book, the bookshelf onto the floor and shatters. And there's no reason for that to happen. There was no windows around this area, there's no wind, there was no mice. It just fell over

Like she's like, that's not my tone.

No, no, She's like I wanted a nude. So that made me uncomfortable, and I felt like the energy was just getting heavier. It seemed like as soon as I would come home, it was just this instant depression, Like as soon as I opened the door, it was just dark and I was miserable. And at that time, I believe I was working from home a lot of the time, and my fiance was out, so I was just the

Would you find them, I believe just google.

Just googling around, and it was I mean, they had good I think they had some good YELP reviews. I wish I could remember off the top of my head what their company was.

But I because I didn't even realize. I mean, I talked to a lot of paranormal investigators, but I don't I never think of them as like like ghostbusters essentially. I guess, yeah, you could just probably look them up, call them and get some reviews and they'll take care of it.

Exactly. It was like a a almost kind of like a group of them, and they sent two of the ladies to my house and they walk around the house. Well, they asked me to step outside just so they can kind of walk around and feel the energy and all of that. So, after like thirty minutes, I come back in and they tell me that there is an older woman, an older lady downstairs in our kitchen and this woman had lived there at some time and she loved to cook and clean.

She was pretty much where lipsticks.

Right, and that she had some kind of heart attack or something go wrong with her heart, and she had died in the kitchen. And I was like, oh, man, like that's they thought, that's where I was getting this kind of older energy from.

Wait, but how did they figure all that out?

They were like talk, they were talking to whoever it was. But they they said that they told me that it as a vision, like they can kind of see the person in the kitchen grabbing their chest and then falling onto the ground.

Okay, so they were like it was like a medium or something. Yeah, he was like a psychic of some sort. Okay.

Yeah, so they saw that, and then I asked them or I told him about the picture frame and the lipstick, and they told me that, yes, whoever that person was was pissed off that I did that, and the reason for that was because there was a man who was in his twenties who committed suicide in the upstairs bedroom. Yes, and it was he was in his twenties and he lived with his mom and his dad in our apartment and he was gay but his parents didn't approve. But on his free time he would dress up and me

Or I don't, Oh my god.

So they told me that I pissed him off because it was just like a touchy subject that I offered a lipstick something that he wasn't allowed to wear because this proof of it, yes, And I was like, oh my gosh. And they told me that they could see him having fights with his father because he was gay and his father didn't approve. And then he hanged himself in the bedroom and I know, and I was just feeling so guilty. I was like, can you tell him I said sorry for the lipstick, or like, can you

And they knew about the closet, yes.

And they knew about the other guy who hanged himself. They knew that I pissed him off, and I was like, oh gosh, But the closet, they said it was something very dark that was moving from the closet to our bathroom and was watching us at night, and that's why I was getting this weird feeling throughout the night because he was he was feeding on my energy. So after that I moved out and.

Oh my god, wait, but do you think that that one was more like a demon or was that a human? I don't know, or was it some kind of dark energy?

I asked about it, and they said that they would need to spend more time there to kind of come to a final conclusion. But whatever it was was attached to that closet and it was also feeding off our neighbors. She said, it was really bad next door, and we had such issues with our neighbor. He was such an asshole and just such a weirdo.

But she did you ever ask him?

No, because we didn't. We tried to not talk to him. He would break into our apartment and it was just an all around bad experience.

I love how they're like, you didn't order the demon package, so if you want to upgrade, we'll be back right.

Oh my gosh. But she said that the dark entity whatever it was, was feeding off of me and the neighbor, and I was just like, oh, it just made me feel so yucky because I was so terrified of the closet but I had no reason to be. But now I was like, okay, we're moving. I have to get out of it. Like there's I don't want to be here anymore. This is too much.

But I so, did that make you a believer?

Yes? Yes, yes yes. So before that obviously I just was like, okay, if it's real, cool if not cool, But after that, yes, it's just different. It's this feeling and this heaviness that you cannot put into words. It's just something you have to experience yourself to fully understand it. And even now I try to talk myself out of it that it wasn't a ghost or spirit because I just don't want to believe it for some reason. But

What if it was like a happier, fun ghost, would you be down?

Oh? Absolutely? I loved Casper growing up. I so wanted a friend like that. But yeah, whatever it was made me feel just so depressed. It was heavy. It was so heavy in that apartment.

So I wonder if there's still whoever lives there now is dealing with that.

I know. I was actually tempted to reach out to them because I looked up who live there now? I'm just a stalker, So I looked up who lives there now? And I found them on Facebook and I was going to send them a message, but then I thought, nah, that's weird, so I just kind of left it alone. But I am curious to know if they are going through or feeling that same thing as well.

Oh yeah, because that's the scene in the horror movie, which is like you hear from the former neighbor or somebody that's been around that's like, oh, did you meet the lady in the closet or whatever. And then so you'll you could be that character in their horror movie.

That's true. So I should just show up, like, hey.

You should show up. You should show up like all mysterious. Yeah, and be like did you try a lipstick?

It doesn't work, Maybe try some eyelashes instead.

That's so sad about the.

Guy, and we wanted up. I looked up the house history in that area and a lot of people had died in that apartment a lot.

So was it like a building like a lot of units and so.

Yeah, so there were about well it was like a house that they turned into a townhouse type of ord months one of those situations, but before it was just one house and a lot of people either got shot there, committed suicide, or just died of natural causes.

So my friend lived in an apartment building in Los feels that someone died in below them, and the ghost, like on its way up into the sky, made a stop in their apartment for a while, and they were like, what is this ghost in here? And then they find out that the person below them had just died. Oh, oh, isn't that weird? I get see, that's when I'm just constantly trying to figure out, like how this stuff works. I have no clue.

Yeah, me neither, because I thought, but it's fun to talk about. I thought, when you're a ghost, you don't have to but you stay like where you died, you know, Like.

That's what I always thought. But people tell me stories on this show about ghosts finding you, Like if a ghost wants you, they're gonna they're gonna follow you, and they're gonna not to put fear in people. But that's what it seems like. Like, you know, you hear about people that buy certain objects that all of a sudden are haunted, or you hear about like someone went someplace and they came home and something followed them home.

So like I don't know, Yeah, that's true. When we lived at that apartment, we were going to a state sales like crazy and constantly buying just antique pieces.

Yes, that is exactly that's what this home is.

Yes, So at first I was thinking we probably brought it in from this, Like we bought this huge mirror, and I thought for sure it was like attached to that mirror, but it wasn't. It was just the in the apartment in general, but it did make me nervous, Like I never really thought about ghosts being attached to antiques. I don't know why I never thought of that.

Well, it's like that whole haunted doll world, which I'm obsessed with I talk about constantly on this podcast. There's a whole underworld of eBay haunted dolls that you could go look at and apparently they're there, Apparently they're around.

That's crazy. Yeah, I mean that would if I were a ghost, it would be pretty shitty to just be attached to an item. But I guess they like mirrors because that you can use it as a portal.

See, I've heard that. But then I've also heard that ghosts don't like mirrors, like that's a way to to h ward them off. Some people believe.

Well, the the ladies who came over to the home the apartment, they said that mirrors can be used as a portal. But to stop it, if you take a red cloth and you put it over the mirror and then right down write down their name, No, write down your name on a piece of paper and put it in the freezer.

It's supposed to get ridden.

What. Yes, that's what they told me. And I was like, uh, okay, I forget why putting it in the freezer does something.

But interesting. Yes, so some stuff that you talk about on your channel that's paranormal. I'm curious how much you believe, Like do you believe in the Mothman? Do you believe in exorcisms?

I believe in exorcisms, the moth Man. I don't know, but I feel like why not, because it's stupid to think that we are the only thing that exists in this whole universe world memory, Like it's silly. So I like to stay open minded. I want to believe, but I personally haven't seen anything to like confirm it.

We That's why I always say, like outer space and the ocean, like they're constantly finding things in there that we never thought were even real, so like it could happen on Earth too.

The ocean terrifies me. I mean, it's a same different planet. It's so scary you go in it.

I don't even go in it. I'm too scared.

I put my feet in, like go with the waves. But I watch a lot of documentaries where it's like they go, I don't know, way down deep, and it's just like, what is down there. I kind of don't want to know.

Have you ever seen the movie? I think it's called forty seven Meters Down I think, so, okay, it's Mandy Moore and she goes with her I think sister. They're like in cancun Or. I can't remember where they're at. There's some place on vacation. They go in one of those cages to go I'm looking at sharks, and the chord snaps and then they end up the whole movie at the bottom of the ocean, trying to figure out how to get out of here before the sharks eat them and before their oxygen uns out.

Yeah. I think I started that movie and I saw Mandy Moore and I was like, eh, I'm going to pass.

Why are you know, Mandy Moore? She's missing you like Candy, I know, and I like, I.

Don't know why I don't. I don't know. Like I like Mandy Moore. I love her very first album. It was my favorite, But I don't know it's her as an adult. I'm like, I don't want to read she was.

Also like fourteen. I know it's a way different story.

I don't want to ruin the Mandy Moore.

I know in my mind, which is, well, if there's one person that knows people that knew me when I was fourteen, would not expect to see this. Okay, I'll just tell you that.

You know what, that's so true. I mean, no one stays the same from who they are now to who they were when they were fourteen. It's kind of stupid.

You gotta evolve.

Oh my god, you're right.

Okay. You want to hear some ghost voices? Yeah, okay, we do this one thing on this podcast. It's called EVP or ev pase. Do you know what EVP is?

Yeah? It's like, no, actually tell me.

It's electronic voice phenomena. So it's basically when ghost hunters catch a ghost saying something and then people put them on YouTube. Now, this is from MT Paranormal, not empty m T the two letters, and this is at an old hotel in Bozeman, Montana. What does this sound like to you?

Play it again?

It's like, ama, I hear it? Do you hear any words?

It kind of sounds like, guys, come on.

Guys, come on. That's a good one. Okay, Well, here's some options. Is it a finally? Honestly, it sounds to me like like a Karen Lady, like finally, like she's been in line? Is it b by Avelyn? Which is kind of like by Felicia, but like by Avlin? Remember that by Felicia?

That was such a thing, right?

Is it c quiet Emily or d I'm it's not really anything.

Actually it does sound like quiet Emily.

Yeah, let me play it again, because that's what they think. It says, yeah, yeah, quiet Emily. And I don't know who Emily is, but she's being loud and wait, that was a ghost, that's what they say.

Wow, it's such a vocal ghost. Usually it's just like a little.

Word like well, and they sound so differently sometimes like Okay, I have one more for you, and this one is more of like a whisper. Why is it not loading? One moment? This one? Okay? This was posted by Arkansas ghost Hunters and they did not say where this was recorded, but somewhere in Arkansas is my educated guess what is

Ill that one is creepy.

It's really creepy. Yeah, any guesses?

Oh no, I can't make out anything. It's just creepy.

Okay, is it A I'll be back again? Is it B? My cousin's a man? Is at C because I can? Or D peanut chicken? Maybe a chicken a peanut chicken dish?

Okay, gosh, that one's weird. I would think it was see what was see?

Because I can? That's what they say. Okay, but here I put this. I didn't include this part just because I wanted to show, like, how how good I think it sounds what they said. What the lady in the video says is why do you stay here? And then it replies, haro, I'll lip sync it since we're doing visuals and I'm a drag queen.

Ew, you're right, so scary scary?

Can you tell people like what's going on? Where we can find you? I'm sure so many people listening to this already love you. But you do all the things.

Yeah, so you can find me on YouTube if you look at Bailey Sarian or Murder Mystery and Makeup. Usually I come up. But every Monday, I do Murder Mystery makeup where I sit down and talk and I talk about true crime while I do my makeup, and you can find me on Instagram. I feel like I'm really active on Instagram stories and whatnot, Facebook, Pinterest, Twitter, TikTok you know all of them, Bailey Sarian and totally yeah.

Well, and also for people listening that are paranormal believers or fans, like pretty much everyone that listens to this show. You also have talked about paranormal stuff as you're doing your makeup too, So yeah, like I was thinking The moth Man, I could recommend you also did the Haunting and Connecticut One. Yes, the what is their last name? Snat? I think it's the family.

They's a daycer something like. It's along those lines.

Yes, And that story is good.

It is, and it's It's so hard to talk about ghost stories because I feel like when you're watching a documentary or the footage, it's more creepy. I don't know, because it kind of creates this whole visual of like what it looked like and what they're seeing and stuff. And when I'm talking and doing my makeup, I feel like it's hard to express like how creepy it was, you know, because it's like you need almost see it. So that's why, like I do some ghost stories, but

No, I think you do a great job, because I mean I also typically this podcast is only audio, and it's just like with books, Like you know when there's a book you love and then they turn into a movie and you're like, wait, this is not what I was thinking. It's like that kind of thing where the mind's imagination of what this is like just from hearing it is sometimes wayt spook here.

That's very true, you know, like.

In a horror movie when they don't show the killer ooh, because in your mind that could be anything, not some like shitty cgi thing or whatever they end up showing you.

That's true. I never really thought about it that way, but yeah, when they don't show the killer, it's almost more scary because you don't know what it is. And then when they show the killer or the alien or whatever it is, you're like, oh, that kind of like an yeah that I just watched Signs the other day.

That's the one that I was thinking about as I was saying this whole thing. The first time I sold signs in theaters, I was like, this is so scary. They're not really showing us. And then there's like the scene where I want to say they're at like a birthday party or something, and they show like a clip and there's like you see it, and you're like, I think I could take that. I don't know.

I was so mad. I watched it the other day and they show the alien like running from out of the bush and I was like, oh, you guys just ruined it with that one clip.

Yeah, oh well yeah it though, but that that haunting and Connecticut one. I one night started youtubing and I found like some old daytime talk shows. I can't remember exactly which one, but like that had the family on and they're like telling the story and there's like some pretty cool clips out there of them talking about it.

So I just filmed for this coming Monday's upload another ghost story and which one the why Rick family? Are you familiar with them?

What's that? So it's, uh, this will come out after you've already released that, Okay.

Cool. So it's about this family who moves down to Georgia and they move into like their first home and their youngest daughter, she's only three years old. She makes a friend, it's imagine friend, and her mom asked like, oh, who's your friend? You know, tell me about her, and she's like, Mom, his name is mister Gordy and he's an old man who wears all black in a top hat.

Oh my god, yes, Now, how do you end up as a ghost like that? Like, how come mister Gordy you got to wear men's wear, I know? And then that guy ended up with a missing hand.

Well, I guess mister Gordy was like just a businessman. He made a lot of money. He took care of himself and the other guy. I guess he worked in like a cotton gin cotton factory something. It was like a pretty dangerous job, and he lost his hand at work, and then he died of cancer not long after. But he also lived at that house, so she was able to see him and point him out when they showed

Some people think that flies are paranormal. Really, Oh my god, have you ever seen the Amnival horror? There's like the flies all over the house. Oh yeah, oh shit, I conjured it.

Sorry, like there's always flies around. Sorry to interrupt, No, it's okay. I forget what I was. Oh, okay, So the spirits were getting more aggressive over time, and then they bring in a paranormal investigator something along those lines. They're walking around the house, and then they determined that their fireplace was a portal and a lot of different

Yeah, I can't imagine, I know, right, I never.

Thought of it like that, Like how confusing that must be or scary in a way because you could see all of these spirits. Some of them, she said, were like covered in blood, missing limbs, like very graphic, and then other ghosts or spirits were just more kind and there to kind of help her guide her. So this poor girl, she was just kind of going through a

In a fireplace.

Yes, the idea of portals terrify me, Like I don't know, just the thought of spirits coming in and out, because you never know you're gonna get The psychic who went to that family's home was saying, like anybody can come through the portal, whether it's good or bad. Usually more often it's bad spirits because they're kind of like stuck in this limbo or they're I don't know, just angry, so they don't really cross over.

You know. It's kind of like that what was that show? I watched in early Quarantine where it's like love is blind. Did you watch that show?

Didn't?

It's like people they're dating through a wall and they can't see each other, and then it's like a different person constantly. It's like you don't know what you're dealing with, you don't know who you're talking to. Yeah, So basically I think that that's what portals. I think it's like it's the same as a portal to the hell.

Yeah, exactly. It's terrifying. I don't I don't know. That part scares me. Demons and dark entities terrify me because I felt like at that apartment we were living in, that closet terrified me. And that feeling alone to have that all the time, Oh, that would be a nightmare.

That well, because it feeds off of you, it's that's what it's. Its whole purpose is is to make you depressed, make you just in a worse in any way possible.

I guess they try to get you as weak and vulnerable as they can. That way they can take over your body.

So yes, I mean that's why you got to stay on your shit, you know, like you have to be That's I had an Exorcist on this show, and we're talking about raising your frequency. You got to make sure you're doing good things. You know, you got to be a good person if you're and it's I mean, it's like, especially nowadays for a lot of people, it's like it's tough, like you're feeling low and and that's what they look for.

I know, it's scary. What do they do though, Like what's their goal when they take over your body? What do they what do they want? I don't understand.

I know, what's that typical bully thing where you're like, oh, you're just jealous, like you just want to be me? And like literally they do. They want to like get up in your business and be you right, and then they I think sometimes I don't know, we always.

Have these dark, like raspy voices, these demons, and I'm like, come on, if you're gonna be a person, act like a person, okay, like try to blend in.

Yeah, you're drawing attention. Yes, it's like nobody speaks Latin anymore. Why are you speaking Latin backwards? Like you're blowing your cover?

Right? So I just I don't get that part, Like what is their end goal exactly? So that part was always like I'm curious about but I guess I'll never know to be a billionaire, you know, it's like the demon wants to take over and then what what are you going to do? Oh?

I think I know if you Well, thank you so much. You are just an angel. I'm so excited that you came on and yeah, that's it.

Thank you so much for having me. And I love I love the blue. What palette is that?

Oh this is just some drag queen some drag queenery. I don't even know. I want to say, it's like straight up stage makeup. I have like some makeup that because I just moved and I've been like finding like old thing, which I know some people are like, don't do old makeup or whatever, it's bad, but like it still works. And so I found like all these like old drag queeny queenie like ben Nie stage makeup and stuff. I'm like, why not? Thank you? Thank you so much