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Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal and Halloween time is over just like that, but of course it continues on here all year round. And I actually, you know, I'm going on the road doing doing some ghosted Lives within the next two months or so. So if you happen to miss me in San Francisco and Los Angeles, that's over. But I will be doing it in Brooklyn, that's Brooklyn,
New York, on the eighth of December. That same week, I'm going to Portland on the eleventh and the thirteenth in Seattle. All of that stuff you can find at linktree dot com slash Raz Hernandez for the tickets. I'm also just doing stand up, not about ghosts, not about ghosts, but I will be doing stand up at Good Nights in Raleigh on the seventh of November, and I'm also going to do a Seattle one the same night as my ghost did, so I'd love to see you there.
I know I mentioned this stuff constantly, but it is so interesting the way I don't know algorithm. Listen. I can't expect people to keep up with everything I'm doing, but I listen. I'm gonna be in Brooklyn on the eighth, the ninth, I'm gonna get people going, why don't you ever come to New York? I was in Philly a couple of weeks ago. I was in my hotel bed after the show. It was pretty well attended, couple couple of empty seats, but pretty well attended. I'm laying in
my bed, I'm looking at my phone. I see a comment from someone that goes, why don't you ever come to Philly? I was in the hotel in Philly, just finished. A couple of empty seats in the audience. This is what I'm talking about, people, But I love to see you there. Uh, okay, listen. It is a lovely time here at Ghosted because we have got a listener episode. There's so much ghost content and it's not even Halloween anymore. Because you know, I'm also doing the Haunted Doll on YouTube.
Ros Fernandez The Haunted I've been loving people telling me how much they love it. And I have now released a couple of episodes, and I'm not sure yet if I'm gonna keep doing it or what. I don't know. It's you know, we'll see if you like it. You know, if enough people are watching it, I'll keep doing it. But this listener episode, oh god, I love talking to my listeners. You guys are so fun. I think we should just get right into it because we've got a
lot of stories coming at you. This first one is from me, who's got all kinds of stories. But there's one about the Tenderloin in San Francisco with a kind of pervy ghost. Let's get into that right now. On with the show. Oh my god, I'm joined by me in San Francisco. Hello, Hi, I love.
San Francisco, me too.
Okay, these stories you sent, there's a story about a brothel, a former brothel, which yes, I especially living on like this side of the country, like the old Southwest, you know, like you go to Arizona, nobat like you're always California. There's so many of these like gold Rush towns that had these brothels. Why do you think they're haunted?
I mean, it makes sense that like a lot of crazy shit went down there.
I mean, I guess so.
It's just like kind of a super chaotic place, which I would imagine like creates an energy that might want to stick around.
Yeah, I don't know. So the place that you you worked at a place that used to be a brothel.
Yeah, so basically this was in Santa Cruz in the nineties. It was a building built in the early I just looked it up. Actually, so it was built in nineteen oh seven. It was this amazing like saloon basically right near the water in Santa Cruz. But by the time I worked there, it was just like a bar restaurant, and I really wanted to work there. My friend had worked there and she said it was cool and it was just like a cool like location in town and whatever.
So I kind of begged for a job there. Got a job as a server, and part of the training was just like yeah, yeah, like here's how you do the job, blah blah blah. Also, Julia is here. She's the ghost of the old madam that you know ran the brothel here. She doesn't like women, just beware. And I was like, okay, cool, like just part of it, like literally just part of the training. And my friend had worked there, had talked about her and had had an experience with her as well.
At this point in your life, was that like scary or are you just like whatever?
I mean? Honestly, at that point, I had a ghost in my house, like a really cute little boy ghost that we all kind of like knew, And it was the strangest time, honestly.
Okay, we're gonna have to hear about that too, But no, like it.
Felt kind of normal because there was like there was a kid in my house that we that like talks with us all the time, and we all just knew he was there, and it was like, no big deal. I don't know, it was a very kind of open part, I guess with that stuff in that time. Santa Cruz and also just like the amount of pot smoking and whatever, it all went together.
So Santa Cruz where The Last Boys is based.
Yes, I think they call it Carlos.
Okay, so you're over here dealing with vampires. You're dealing with listen, yeah, saxophone players. Yeah, okay, So Julia the mean madam right, well.
You would sense her presence like you would smell perfume all the time, like a kind of a French what I assumed at the time was like a French perfume, Like you would smell perfume, you would get this feeling like somebody was watching you. And it was always from this corner of the restaurant, which, if you thought about it in terms of when it was a brothel, would have been like the mezzanine where she would have stood a lot, you know, like it kind of made sense.
She never really messed with me, like maybe because I was just open to it and I didn't care that she was there. I don't know, I never felt threatened, but she did. Like I came to work one morning and my coworker was just like shaking and like white, and I'm like, what's up? Are you okay? And she's like no, the food processor just flew across the room at me, and I like went into the kitchen and the food processor was smashed on the ground.
So, you know, aggressive, Yeah, because what would they say Julia did, Like how did she manifest.
Mostly just like moving things around, hiding stuff, kind of just like general I don't know, messing with people. Boredom. Yeah, yeah, but that incident was like pretty narly, and I remember that waitress being like very upset, understandably.
But so you never like encountered her ever.
Well, I never encounter her, but I had one of the craziest things ever happened to me, which was I had an out of body experience involving her, which, like saying it out loud, sounds so insane. But again nineties, like my friends like, smoke this mugwort shit and you'll
have like really good dreams. And I took a bong ahead of it again and took a nap, and in my dreams, I like traveled to the restaurant and I went upstairs and like cruised around and it wasn't very eventful, but I felt like she was there, and so I was like, oh, I had this dream with this ghost trippy. And then I went to work, you know a few days later, and my buddies actually like that worked in
the restaurant with me, lived upstairs. I'd never been up there, and I was like, hey, Matt, can I see your apartment? Like I want to go up there and see it.
And I went up there and it was.
Exactly what I had been in in my dream. And I felt like I been there. It was so crazy. I was very freaked out, but also like very pleased.
He experienced Julia.
No, and he you know, I don't know if that's just because he was like a dumb dude, I don't know. Interesting, yeah, not as much anyways, Julia, I felt like a crazy connection with her somehow. I think I don't know, who knows, Maybe I worked there in a former life.
She's probably cool. Yeah, these brothel goess, I feel like they always have like gendered like biases or whatever. I feel like I'm always hearing like they hate women or they hate men or whatever. So it's interesting is she didn't like the ladies, but she left the men alone.
I know it's jealousy.
Yeah, I don't know. You think she'd be on the side of the ladies. But again, not a great time to be alive, you know, Like I don't know, Yeah, pretty nary to be the boss lady of a brothel. So who knows? Yeah, super wild time that restaurant has since burned down, so oh lovey shit.
Yeah, Julia through Zippo or something. Okay, tell me about this boy ghost. What's the story there?
So I lived with a few other girls. We lived in an apartment that was above a coffee shop in an old Victorian house also in Santa Cruz. So it was this really cool apartment that had like was the old attict I think of that home, but then had been a dentist office for many years and then had been turned into an apartment I think in the seventies because it had like sick maybe blue shag carpets.
Cool.
Yeah, it was a really cool apartment. But pretty quickly after we moved in there, if you were alone in the apartment, you would just feel like movement next to you, Like you would feel like somebody walks past you. That happened all of the time if you were alone in that apartment, and like it happened to me. And then I asked my friend about it. I was like, if you just felt weird when you were alone in here? She's like, oh, yeah, like I felt like somebody walked
past me. And then we started talking about it, and it just was like a thing that would happen if you were alone, kind of only alone in the apartment.
And then also the kitchen area seemed to be where he like hung out the most, which is like this tiny little kitchen in the back, and he would huck the pots and pans off the shelves all the time, what so, like he'd be having a conversation and then like all the pots and pans would come like flying to the ground, and you'd just have to go and like clean the kitchen ups because everything had fallen off the shelves. Oh yeah, but it always felt really playful,
like we didn't really mind. He did turn the doorknob of my friend's room once and she did not like that, Like she watched the doorknobs to turn like a horror movie.
Uh, and she was very freaked out.
And I would have been really excited if that had happened too.
But what made you think that it was a boy, like a little boy or what?
I have no idea, honestly, Like looking back, we just all had this feeling that it was this little boy ghost. And I don't know how we came to that conclusion, but it was kind of placeful maybe his life, and kind of naughty. So yeah, probably just some weird assumption. But yeah, and I did have somebody say my name into my ear in that apartment, and yeah, that was very strange, was it?
A little boy voice.
No, that was like a deep voice. And so then that freaked me out. I was like, is there more than one in here?
So then you also lived in an apartment with a with a pervert ghost.
Now this this was really disturbing and made me not live there for very long. But this is a tenderline in San Francisco, or the tender Knob as they were calling it at the time, which is, you.
Know, okay, nice try but aunt Charlie's yes the best.
Yeah, you know, Tinderlin's got a live ghosts and dead ghosts.
Right, it's wild and a lot of transgender history over there. Yet yeah, it's a very historic area.
It is I think now it's it needs a little come up and but yeah, it's old and interesting and totally cool. I moved into this building that like at that point, this is early two thousands, I feel like every building had like a placard saying that the Maltese Falcon was written there. Part of it was anyways, it was one of those buildings it had like a birdcage elevator like the garage, like creepy old. But it was
my first time living alone. I was super excited to live alone, like I'd had kind of nightmarish housemates and I was like so ready to be on my own. So I moved into this tiny little studio. And pretty quickly after I moved in there, if I and it was skinky, like two hundred and fifty scurre feet probably, so I had like a little web feat and then a divider and then my bed to kind of make two spaces. But it was like, you know, one tiny space.
But that's only relevant because if I fell asleep on the couch, like if I took a nap, I was bartending at the time, so a lot of napping, I would often wake up being like fully choked out sleep paralysis horrible, like I'd never had that happen before.
Oh god, I would.
Feel like somebody was keeping my eyes shut, Like not cute.
Were you slave it on your back or your stomach?
I mean, no matter how I slept, it was a tiny little love seat, so I think on my side because it wasn't like big enough to stretch out on.
Oh don't tell me that.
Yeah, not good. Sorry. But then if I was in bed and this didn't happen all the time, but it happened to me probably a dozen times. I would like wake up and feel like somebody was in bed with me, and then in that moment of like noticing that I was awake, knowing that I had not brought anybody home with me and there shouldn't be anybody in my bed, I would feel like sweaty, hairy, doughy naked man body against my body. No, it was horrible. It's really fucking horrible.
Uh yeah, were your eyes open when you would feel this?
It would be like in that moment of like in between sleep and weak.
Okay, but like yeah, very.
Viscerally, like a sweaty, hairy, like down toake honestly like flaccid pressing against my back.
Oh gross, Oh my god.
Yeah, I moved out of that apartment. I couldn't. I would yell at it, I would tell it to leave me alone, and it would like work temporarily, like it would stop for like a couple of weeks, and then it would start back up again, and it kind of just didn't. I don't know. I didn't think I have the capacity at that point to like really cleanse the space or figure it out, and I just moved into a warehouse.
Oh my god.
I felt so bad because like a woman I think lived there after me, and I was just like, I hope she just doesn't experience this, like maybe this is me, you know what I mean, Like I don't know.
Who the hell is that gost.
I don't know. It was so horrible, and I like when something like that happens to you, it feels so crazy. So like telling anybody about it, I'm like, you're gonna think I'm insane.
Well that's how you tell me, I will I will think that.
Yeah right.
It's so like would you have these moments where you're like you kind of wake up and then there's just nothing there, Yeah.
And then I would feel nuts, But it like it would happen so much that I'm like, this is actually like happening in whatever way that's happening. I can like thinking of like talking about it, like I can feel it and my hair is on end. It was really upsetting. Oh yeah, that little apartment, I mean that whole building. There was stuff in there, you know, it was kind of a building with dark corners.
Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, one other thing I see you sent me as a UFO. You saw a UFO taking off?
Well yeah, I didn't actually see it, but I was near it, I heard it, and again what was it? I don't know. It was unidentified. This is like in high school. So my boyfriend in high school had decided to grow some weed in the creek like behind his house in Summerland, which is do you know where that is? It's like a tiny little town south of Santa Barbara. Okay, it's actually a town built like the spiritualists like lived there. Oh okay, so it's a trippy town like built on
seance basically. But we were decided to take those plants that he had grown illegally in this creek like to another location because I'd gotten too big. So he put them in my trunk and we were like coasting down a closed road in the middle of the night, like just sneaking them. I mean, it was highly illegal at
that point. Not smart anyways, As we were kind of like creeping down this road and there was a few other people outside of the car kind of looking out, there was this blue light all of a sudden, and it filled like everything just with this fairy winkle as the best description I can give it, like blue light
but filled all of around us. And then it just like something just woshed off into the sky and then the dudes that were outside screamed and jumped in my car and were like, you have to drive right now, and we just like took off. So yeah, I don't know, I don't know what that was, but I've never felt light was very strange. It was like the sun but blue.
And everybody kind of agreed.
Like the dudes that were outside were like something went into the sky and they were super freaked out, and they just were just like, fuck this, let's go, and just we just like drove down the road pretty scared and didn't care that we had, you know, plants in the back of the car that could have gotten a solidary huge amount of trouble.
Well, I bet those aliens came down because they heard the good weed was growing. Maybe they went and they wasn't there, so they're like, fuck this busted, let's go.
Totally not that trip they were expecting. I don't know. That town has a lot of like funny stories and rumors and stuff of all stuff like that, but I.
Don't know about this one. I need to look it up. Summer Land.
Yes, it's a tiny it's like a town of a few thousand people, but it's south of Santa Barbara, maybe like six miles.
Amazing. I love these like spiritualist colonies, and there's a couple of them throughout America that are just fascinating to me. I love that.
Yeah, the kind of spiritualist leader guy whose name I can't recall, but his house is still there in Summerland, and it was a restaurant when I was a kid, but it's been closed for a long time. But everybody I knew who worked there, so there was tons of ghosts in there. It's the big yellow house. It's still there, and I don't know if anybody's in there, so maybe you can go exploring.
Okay, I guess I have to.
Right.
Well, this has been fabulous. Thank you so much for sharing your stories.
Thank you, Raz. That was so much fun to talk to you.
Thank you, Mesh. Next up is storm Miguel, who talks to us about bumping into a ghost as a child, a ghost who dialed a rotary phone in the seventies. Oh. I love that, all right, Storm Megal, tell us what you got. Oh my god, it's Stormy Gal in San Francisco.
Hi High Rods.
How are you doing.
I'm good, thank you. I'm really excited to be here.
You got store trees. Where do we start?
I mean, let's start at childhood. When I bumped into a.
Ghost okay, and where was this? What part of the world?
Okay? This was an Albuquerque in the house I grew up in, all right, And yeah, I was I don't know, maybe about I want to say, like seven or eight. My brother and I shugged him. We had bunk beds and I was watching TV one night. He was asleep on the bed and I was kind of leaning back against the mattress and so he was asleep behind me, sound asleep, you know. I could hear breathing, and the
lights were off. The door with shut and I had a little black and white TV on that we had, and then I got tired and decided turn it off and go to bed. So I turned it off and it was really dark, you know, at first wee you turned the lights off and you can't see a thing,
and it takes minutes to adjust. And normally when I got onto the top bunk, I had to go through that like the head of the bunk bed was where like the ladder was, and I could never get on through the middle because I just wasn't tall enough, like my brother could just step on the mattress and jump on to the top. So I'm walking, I get up, turn anything off. I hear my brother breathing quietly, and I walked to go to the head of the bed
and I run into something that feels like clothes. And I'm thinking, did I already walk all the way across the room to my closet, which was across the room. There's nothing between the bed and the closet. And then I reached over and my bunk bed was right there, like the head of the bunk bed. And then I reach out again and I feel what feels like clothes, totally solid, just clothes, and there was nothing in the room between, you know, like it was there should not
have been anything there. And so I, for the first time ever got on the top bunk through the middle of the bed without using the ladder. It was horrified.
What was that?
And then I get under the covers. I know it was just like a person. It was like somebody. I just felt like somebody who was like wearing like layers or like a long coat or something.
Weird. Was that the only time you had an experience like that in that house.
In that room. I also woke up one time felt pretty much awake. I felt awake and I saw an old man sitting like in a chair and shut my eyes really tight, opened them. He was still there. Shut my eyes really tight, open him. He was still there. And eventually just like herew the covers over my head until I fell asleep. And that was kind of in
the morning, like around dusk. And then one time someone dialed their rotary phone in the kitchen behind me, and nobody was in there, so I was like watching TV. It was late at night. Everybody was asleep, and all the bedrooms were like to my kind of front front right, and the kitchen was directly behind me, and that's where the phone was. And I was watching TV and I heard the and I just I just froze. I quietly
reached over and turned off the TV. This was back in the day when you had to reach over to turn off TV. We didn't have them controls. And I ran down to my room because I was horrified. I was talking to a friend about it later and I was like, yeah, and I never saw her. My friend was like, how did you know it? Was a she, and then like we both just got like all sleeked out about it and account did they know that? But I sensed it, I guess.
So then you run to your room where the old man is.
That was a different room I read, But at that point I was in a different room because my sister had left for college. So I ran down to the room in my new room. I didn't have any ghostly experiences in that room, just upstairs.
I just wonder about, like if you're like, say, an old man that dies in the house, and then like does how does it work where it's like a I feel like I feel like sitting and watching these two kids sleep for a little bit, like I.
Know it's creepy, maybe like I feel like watching this TV show that this kid's watching and then didn't get out of the room in time, didn't realize it's gonna be walking in that direction.
I'm just always like where did that go? Like, are they around twenty four to seven most of the time invisible or did they just come and go? And where do they go?
Yeah, they goes in chairs in different rooms. I guess chairs that aren't there. But the weird thing is like we were the first people to live in that house. I know you hear the Latin your stories where people are like, we're the first person. And this was like an old white man. He was kind of big, had a cool headhair, silver hair, Saddy daddy for sure.
Hmm. I wonder where that zaddy came from.
Yeah, well, I heard there was like a ranch in that part of the city before they actually developed there. So I don't know.
Well, tell me another one I want to hear about this Elvis story.
Okay, So I've had some psychic.
Dreams, meaning what like predictions.
So predictions, but like predictions that you would never know that. That's what it was. So okay, So I had a dream one night that I was hanging out with my friend and her face looked different and I couldn't quite figure it out, and she's kind of sad. And then the next part of the dream, I was filming Elvis through like a little camera and he was performing on stage, but I could only get parts of him. I couldn't
get the full guy. I can only get like a little bit of his space or like his armor, like his shoulder. And that was that. So I woke up and I journaled. I wrote the dream down, put it away completely, forgot about it. So about three weeks later, I saw a friend of mine that was in the dream and she had this scar on her chin. It made it look like she had a cleft in her chin, and I was like, oh my god, what happened to your chin? She was like, oh, I had to get stitches.
I was at my friend's house and he had this kind of trapeeze and I swung on it and it broke and dashed into his elvis mirror and like split my chin open, and I was like whoa, Just like yeah, it was crazy that the mirror was like totally you know, shattered, Elvis was on pieces. I'd forgotten about my dream and I went home and like a few days later was looking through my journal and found that dream. I mean that's like, yeah, like that's kind of that's the same thing,
but not right. Like, there's no way I could have dreamt that and been like, oh no, this person's gonna hurt themselves. You know, crashed into an Elvis mirror, the trapeze is going to break.
You didn't rig the trap peez so that it would Elvis mirror.
I mean, had I thought about if this person was a little messy and sometimes you know, might have wanted to do that, but no, I did not do that.
What's that? What's the FBI thing?
Similar situation. I had a weird dream that I was at my ex girlfriend's house down south in New Mexico, and when we walked in and her girlfriend like this kind of butch dy like kind of pulled me aside and gave me a big hug from behind and then covered my face and then like was shoving cocaine up my nose. It was a very weird dream. And then the rest of the dream, I was really high without trying to be. And I kept saying her big brothers
listening to us, big brothers listening to us. And I was thinking my big brother in the dream, like my big brother's listening. We can't call anyone. I can't call my girlfriend. I want to tell her I'm here, but I can't call her. And so that happened, right. I wrote it all down, and I wrote down a bunch of weird details from the dream. It was very vivid.
I swear. About three months later, I go to visit my girlfriend and southern New Mexico and her and her girlfriend and it's morning time and my ex had to leave and it was just me and her girlfriend in the house, and all of a sudden, here boo boo boo boo boom, and it was the FBI, and think, I'm like busting in the house, and they arrest my ex'es girlfriend and I knew why because, like I that she had been bringing in some marijuana across the border,
and so I kind of figured that was it. And then the rest of the day, we were already finally came over and we were all freaked out, and we were drinking, and I was pretty drunk, and I was trying to call my current girlfriend to tell her what it happened, but I was also really nervous to I was like, what if Thefty I was listening with Defty.
I was listening and I called her, and in the dream I was too high to like dial the phone, right, you know, I had dreams you can't quite dial a phone number or do the thing you need to do this, And in real life I kept missing up the phone number because I was drunk, because we were all stressed
out and drinking. And then later that night, I was writing in my journal and I just happened to like turn back to the page like months ago and I had talked about that whole entire dream, and there were all these little details, like my big brother was listening. I was afraid to call my girlfriend, Like there was just all these details that I wouldn't have known to predict what happened in us. Those are similar, right, like just n my head.
Does this kind of a thing happen to you nowadays?
Not really. Occasionally I'll have dreams that like similar dreams as a friend or like you know, I'll have a feeling of something's going on with somebody in a dream, or I'll have like just kind of a dream where someone's sad. I have a particular friend and I'll be like you okay, and she'd be like, shut up, how did you know? You know? We both should do that with each other though, But I don't do that as much as I used to.
What's the story with you getting tugged by a ghost?
That was another house I lived in where the guy who lived there was an apartment, had died, not in the place, but while he lived there, he was like in impatient care for like psychiatric stuff from what I had heard, and I used to have weird stuff happened in that house. And one night I was laying in bed and I felt like I felt something kind of on top of me. But then it started to kind of like the blanket started tightening around me, and I
was like whoa what. I wanted to like jump up, and I was like, no, no, hold on, what is this? Just like I was like, let's just be curious for a moment. And I just felt like I was being hugged and it felt so nice, and I was like, oh, this is so cozy, this is weird, but like it doesn't seem like mean. I was just like okay, and it was just like hugging you and if they'll all embrace.
And then all of a sudden, I felt myself kind of rising up off the bed and then I felt something like like starting to pull me, like tug me towards the edge of the bed, and I just like broke out, like I just kind of like jerked and like was back where Like I didn't feel myself land, but I also didn't feel like I woke up. It didn't feel like I came out of sleep. I just was suddenly like back down on the bed and nothing else.
That's one of those many things with ghosts where I'm like, this could be fun and cool if we can like figure this out, if we can, this can be like a collaborative effort, right, Like it would be really cool to be able to just like pick me up sometimes and like but we'll think I'm like have magic powers. That would be so cool, I know.
And then it had to make it weird by like yanking my feet. I'm like, why did you have to do that? It was going really well before that, you're saying really great.
Yeah, and then they just they push their boundaries too far.
No tugging, no tugging, no sudden movements.
Tell me more stories.
I know. All my stories are kind of little snippets of my life. I went to Alcatraz on the little tour once with my friends.
I've never done that. Is it good? Would you recommend it?
Well?
Personally, after this experience, I was like, I don't want to come back here. Okay, it's a trip like they're oh that place was haunted.
Yeah, I want to go. I just don't want to be like in a tour group. I want to like sneak off and go investigate on my own.
Well, this happened to me while I was with a tour group. So like I was walking and you had like this little like these little headphones. I don't know, this is years ago, so I don't know if this
to her, really do it. I had little headphones on and it was like kind of you're walking through the tour and it's telling you if you look to your left, you know, you'll see these sills in this book is so And then at one point it was like touch the metal bars, you know they wanted to go kind of just how solid they were, and so I touched them.
I was totally fine. I was like da dah, da da dah, this is interesting, Like okay, I touched the metal bar, and then all of a sudden, I just started bawling, like emotions just didn't even feel like mine just came through me and I was just sobbing. And I immediately like let go of the bar, was like what just happened? And actually left. I went out to the little like yard because I just couldn't be in there anymore and my friend. I waited for my friends,
but I just couldn't. I was just like this place is so sad. I can't. I can't stay here. So it wasn't even scary. It was just like, oh my god, so many horrible things happened here. Yeah, but yeah, the times is like, it's an intense thing. But I would say it's worth going once. I don't regret going. But I couldn't even finish the tour.
Okay, whatever I do when I go, I will not touch the metal bars. That would piss me off. If I just started crying on my vacation.
No, I know, yeah, no, it was. It was pretty intense. I mean that was fine afterwards, but I was just like, I'm not I don't need to be here.
I think you're a psychic.
I mean I used to be. I think I used to be a lot more sensitive.
You lost it.
I lost it, and I feel like I know the moment I lost it, actually what happened. Okay, So I used to be very sensitive to things, right, I would kind of have these weird ghostly experiences. But I was also very freaked out a lot, so like just turning the corner in a dark like you know, I lived in this one house that was kind of like you had to get there through the backyard, and whenever I would go there at night, I would just be so
freaked out. I was like, something is out here and it was just I hated how it felt was freaking me out. Nothing ever happened. But then one time I was in Texas staying with a friend and she let me borrow her car and it was a little like like a books writing for Vertible or something. And I was driving back to her place and it was like
in the hills. It was in Wimberley, Texas, and so it was really like dark, and I was driving with the top down, and I was just like driving through all these like dark trees in this dark road, and I was feeling that feeling and I was like, oh, there's something out here that its gross. I don't know what to do with it. And then got to her place and I was still feeling it, like I wanted
just to run from the car to the house. And then I decided that I wanted to just like be with the fear of it, and I was just like, nope, I'm going to will myself to stay in this. And so I decided she had some land and she had this weird little kind of this little kind of shed that if you walked through it. On the other side there was like really beautiful view. So I walked down this path by myself, and every step I took I was just like horrified because I can just whatever the
creeps I was feeling was just so intense. And then I went into the little like shed, which was really kind of creepy, and I got to the other side and I just told myself, I'm just going to sit here and look out to nothing, to darkness until I stopped feeling afraid. And so I sat there and was all creeped out in wonder what I was gonna see in every little noise I heard just kind of freaked me out. And then I stayed there until it subsided,
just completely subsided. I don't know what happened, but I suddenly it was just like not afraid. It was gone. And then I walked back to the house no problem. You know, I wasn't scary going back through all the kind of dark little pathways and stuff. And I swear since then, I have not felt like the creeps at all like I used to. Whenever I have like what would be considered a nightmare, it's more interesting than scary. And also, like I stopped being able to sense things in the way that I used.
To what I know, so fair, I know.
I was like, wait a minute, I went too far. I guess. I don't know. I wasn't trying to like make those things go away, but I was just like, I don't want to feel scared anymore.
Well, that's good. That part of it is good.
It is. It is kind of nice. Yeah, I don't I don't get so freaked out, I think, but I do miss having the more kind of keen connection with things on the other side or I don't know if it's the other side, but just like unseen paranormal whatnot.
Well, I believe in you. I believe it's still there. Oh it'll come back.
Thank you, manthee, I'll ask okay. To be honest, listening to your show has kind of made me more curious about it and kind of wanting to get back in touch with it because I just haven't really thought of it too much over the past several years, and so listening to your show has been a really nice way to get in touch with kind of even just that part of myself, even if I can't fully experience it like maybe I will. Yeah, yeah, I want to see something.
Sometimes people say that listening to my podcast makes ghosts up here. I don't know if that's true. I don't want people to know that because I don't want them to stop listening. But people say if they're open to it, I don't know.
Listening to your podcasts, it's like, I think it opens things up for people, you know, whether it's seeing ghosts or not. But like it's like when you're sitting around the fire and people tell me those stories, right, like suddenly your senses are like really become way more keen, and you hear every little thing and you see things, and like, listening to these stories, I think they just kind of open up our senses more.
Yeah. I mean, I will say every once in a while, if I go to a movie theater, I see something real spooky. As soon as I get home, I'm like, well, the demon crawled out of the movie screen and they're in my apartment.
Uh, all the reading style just followed you home.
Yep, I'm fully convinced. And of course it's not the case, but yes, my senses are heightened. M Yeah, well Storm, Miguel brus this has been lovely. Thank you so much.
Oh my god, thank you so much, Thank.
You Storm, Miguel. You know what I need a little bit of Margaret in my life. And Margaret, this one cracked me up. Margaret's got a story about encountering Anne Bolin's ghost, so you're not gonna want to miss that, Margaret, give it to us. Hello Margaret in Washington.
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How are you?
I'm good, Ross, How are.
You so good? I was laughing. Look at these stories you sent, you wrote, I don't know what those tutor bitches have against me. Tell me about these tutor bitches. Sure.
So the first is probably a little bit more obscure historical reference on its reference to Mary Tudor, who was Elizabeth the first half sister. She is the daughter of Captain of Aragon and Henry Bates. This ties into, you know, the legend of Bloody Mary, and there's obviously quite a bit of speculation as to who Bloody Mary really is. My family is originally from Ireland, so, you know, being good Irish people, my grandfather always would find a way
to make the English, you know, history's greatest villain. So as far as we were concerned, Bloody Mary had to have been Mary Tutor, who did actually have the moniker of Bloody Mary because of her campaign to basically restore Catholicism unsuccessfully back in England. But anyway, so I'm a
little girl, I'm first starting getting into horror. I'm probably about nine, and you know, I think, like most kids around that age, it kind of starts with like Bourbon legends, right, so like the legend of the hook man, you know, like the babysitter, the calls coming from inside the house,
and of course Bloody Mary. And so I'm you know, having my little friends over at my house after school, and we start talking about it, and I start telling them about Bloody Mary and how the game of Bloody Mary goes, and of course, you know, they're like, oh my god, like that's not real, that totally is just a made up thing. And so of course we get the brilliant little idea of like, well, let's test it.
So we pile into my bedroom. We shut my bedroom door, we pulled down all the shades and the curtains, and there's a mirror on the back of my bedroom door. Go over to the bedroom door and we start chanting, you know, Bloody Mary. And as we get to the third and final time, of saying it. We start like getting more and more ramfunctious and hugging each other on and like, oh, are you gonna say it? No, you say it? No, I'm gonna say it.
No hear it?
Oh, you're like an eighty. So of course we start to say it the third time, when all of a sudden, the shade behind us fly up violently, so loudly and strongly that I had little glass figurines on my desk in front of it. It knocked several of them over, and so we never got it out the third time, but we ran out of there screaming hysteria, you know, like piling into the yard. I don't know why we thought running into the yard was going to help us, but that was our plan, because you know.
We were children, you know what. I have a theory that's not true, but I always feel like ghosts can't be outside. So if I'm like, because I've just been ghost hunting and I'm like I need to take a break, and I just go outside, it's like the ghost could probably go outside too, I think, so bloody Mary can find her way out there.
Yeah, for sure.
Did you ever do bloody Mary with a third time? Where you said it.
No, no, because I you know, it's like there's like a logical explanation is that, you know, maybe I didn't pull down the shade correctly, like it didn't walk and engage correctly. Although it's like kind of weird that there was that that long of a delay before it popped back up. But I'm like, I am not going to try if it's just a shade, like, no, I'm good. I'm not going to mess with that again. We're good. I respect you, bloody Mary, whoever you may actually be.
Please don't come and calm my eyes out.
I feel like I just have like slight memories as a kid of like of also being like I'm just gonna like say it once and if she doesn't come out then like then I'm not gonna keep going. I don't want to bother her. I don't want to wake her up. She's busy. She's the busy lady. There's a lot of slumber parties going on right now.
Exactly. Yes, she's not afraid to scare children. So yeah, I don't think I know anybody who's ever successfully done it free time either.
Well, the thought of looking into a mirror and just seeing anybody behind you where you're supposed to be whatever. It's so scary for sure, some spooky lady just appearing.
Oh yes, the classic or movie for per reason.
Yeah, So did you have other encounters with these tudor bitches?
I did, And so the other tutor bitch is probably the more famous of the two Tutor bitches, Anne Bolynn, who of course was famously executed by Henry because let's see real, he just didn't want to be married to her anymore and she had ideas and he didn't like that, and he was a pig. So this was when I was in my mid twenties and I went to London on vacation and I went to the Tower of London because I'm a big history nerd, so you know, it was on my list of like, I wanted to go
to the Tower London. I want to see the Crown jewels, all that other stuff, walk the ground and so on there and I get the beef Eater tour and we're walking around and you know, he's going through their history and telling us all about England and about the history of the tower, and you know, covers the many people that had been in the tower and especially during Henry's rain. He loved to throw people in the tower and of
course Amblen was no exception. She stayed in the tower before she was executed, and like her whole execution is like very sad, like she basically watched her brother be executed. It's horrible what he did to her. And you know, she thought that she was going to go to a nunnery. So we thought he was really going to go through with it and would somehow like show her mercy at the last minute. And his idea, Murphy was like, well, I'll just get like a French sportsman, so they don't
have to hack your head off. I'll come off in one swo have been Aren't I a great guy?
Ah? I know?
And they say romances Dad ras so the theaters, you know, winding down the tour, and he says to us like basically, you know, you can go on your own and see where like the big main attractions are, and you know, like if you want to go see the Crown Jewels, this is where you go. If you want to see a couple other tombs, this is where you go. And then he said, you know, and if you want to
go see the chambers where she was held. This is where you go, and he says, you know, she is known to have encounters with young women, and you know, I was like, okay, yeah, he's trying to do like, oh spooky. And I went and saw like other things first because I figured like it might be a little crowded. I really definitely want to see that more than the Crown jewels, because, like I said, I'm a big nerd. So walk around a little bit, and then I go
into what were her chambers before her execution. And I go up there and I'm reading you know, the history of it, and you know, sort of her ordeal up before her execution, and all of a sudden, I feel on my right shoulder. Somebody very gently placed their hand on my shoulder, and simultaneously I feel like the most intense sensation of goosebumps, like but beyond goosebumps, Like it literally felt like somebody had zapt me with like a
handheld stunner or something like stun guns. That's how violent it was. Like it went up my shoulder, my neck, all across my scalp and like into my face. And I mean, this is like twenty plus years ago. I still remember the sensation of the thing because it was so intense. And I whirl around like convincing myself like, oh, it must be the beef theater. And he's like playing a joke on me, or somebody from the group is playing a joke on me.
To scare me.
Turn around. I'm in the chamber completely alone. There's nobody there, and I'm like, well me, They like ran into the other room, and I didn't hear them, you know, because I'm like, you know, there's no way like this, actually, you know, somebody's playing joke with me. So I went into the other room. M nobody is in the other room either. I'm completely alone, and I just was like okay and duly noted and just ran out of their like as fast as I could.
I just took off running.
You met a famous person, You had a straight up one on one meet and greet interaction with the ambole.
In pretty much that's cool. She was just like, run for your life, Henry's its pig, get out of here.
Well, I think that sounds nice, Like, I mean, it is creepy. Listen, anytime a ghost like is touching someone, it's creepy, but like it seems like she was like well intentioned, just like I feel like.
She was trying to scare me, because, like I said, it was a very it was just a very gentle touch on my shoulder. But what made it creepy was just like how strongly my body reacted to it. So like I knew even before I turned around, like, no, you're alone in this room. There's there is nobody in here. Nobody's playing a joke on you.
Yeah, don't get me wrong. I would run out of there too, and I did.
I was like, oh, my aunt, you were totally set up. Henry's a bum bye.
Oh my god, tell me more, tell me more.
My other story is about a trip I took to Iceland. And so, like I said, you know, my family's Irish. My grandmother is from a part of Ireland that's very, very rural, and she was incredibly superstitious, and so she would always like tell us stories about like the little people or leprechauns or elves and fairies, and you know how elves and leprechauns or the little people are tricksters.
They're notorious tricksters, and so you know, she'd be like, oh, you know, you can't make them mad because they'll start playing pranks on you, and the pranks like we'll escalate and see seriousness and you know, like basically just telling these little kids stories about fays and fairies and elves and how they're you know, little monsters that are just
there to like kind of mess with you. So Iceland also has like a very strong culture of elves and trolls, and you know in anavy and folklore and Irish folklore are very very similar, and there's a strong connection between Ireland and Iceland in particular because the Vikings went to Ireland grabbed their drossing back to Iceland to populate Iceland, which isn't the nicest part of the story, but it's historical.
But you know, it came up a couple of times in conversation with Icelandic people and like, oh right, you're Irish decent, like we have such a long history together. I'm like, yes, I've heard, and so there with my friend and uh like as I got there, little things kept disappearing, like nothing serious, and it started with like a tube of lipstick. Then it was like some paperwork for the flight or like our hotel. I think it was then it was a sock, like a single sock disappeared,
and then just like this is this is weird. And then I like lost the key to the hotel, and you know, my friend had her cart. It wasn't a big deal, like nothing that was gonna like really trip me up. But during the trip, my luggage had been like caught in the baggage plane, so it'd been ripped open, and I still needed like my bag and tack to
get back home. So my friend had a very smart idea of like, hey, let's see if you can get some surgical tape, because you should be able to like sort of Mickey mouse your bags so you don't have to buy a new bag, but you can get back home without it, you know, having to replace. And I was like that's a good idea, So get the surgical tape.
I'm repairing my bag, and you know, she's helping me, and she gets up to like go wash her hands, and I put down the tape for a second and the tape just disappears, and you know, I'm rummaging around my.
Friends like what are you doing?
Like the tape gone. She's like, what do you mean the tape gone? Like the taste gone, so that's impossible. You just had it. I'm like, I I understand, but it's gone, Wendy. It's like gone into the ethers. And she's like, oh, this is ridiculous. So she helps me take apart the bed. We're looking under it, the you know, we're looking Edward down on our hands, knees, and she keeps saying, this is ridiculous.
You just had it.
This is ridiculous. I'm like, I know, I know, I know, but I'm telling you it's gone. Which just a bit, everything finally in nick defeat, like the tape has somehow just disappeared into thin air. And I said to my friend, I'm like, okay, Wendy, I got to do something, and you're gonna probably think I'm demented, but like I need to do this, and she's like okay, and so I said, all right, like little people, elves, fairies, grandma, whoever's listening,
but mostly elves, please stop playing pranks on me. I know you think this is funny, but like I don't want to lose my path for it. And if I've done anything to offend you, I'm super sorry, and okay, thank you much. Press Like I don't think that's crazy. I think what happened is crazy and it makes you feel better. And if they're punch the tape, I agree, like make their apologies. And we never found the tape. It never turned up, Like my friends still mentioned.
It to the day.
It's been like ten years, like that was so weird. I'm like, I agree with you, and so, yeah, I do not have a logical explanation for the pape. I have no idea what happened to it. And my friend will vouch for the fact that that tape literally disappeared into thin air. But things stopped disappearing after I did that.
Yeah, the Paspoor wallet, whatever, all that stuff I would be holding on for dear life. These little elves trying to steal that shit.
Oh I was.
I was so paranoid for the rest of the trip.
Yeah.
So I'm so fascinated by that side of the I don't know, supernatural or whatever, these small, little these little creatures, because they're all different kinds of cultures have versions of this, which you know, to me is always very validating that so many different cultures believe in this kind of a thing. But do you think it's like because I mean, they're magical, so so they could probably be like invisible or whatever.
Like I don't know, how do you how do you think how do you think these things work?
I don't know.
That's a good question.
Like in Iceland, they take it so seriously that like sometimes in their roads if there's a rock, because the Icelandic mythology is that the elves live inside rocks, and so they will not go through the rock. They won't
just demolish it like you would in the US. They like will bend the highway to go around it, and that people will leave offerings, but like the same thing in Ireland was like my grandmother would we we would leave little offerings for the little people on Saint Patrick's Day, and then my parents would write like a message pretending they're the little people, and we're like, yeah, you guys
wrote that. And then my parents, like to the day they died, they're like no, no, no, that wasn't us, I was the little people, like they were thank you for the offering. And so I don't know. I guess like I kind of do like the idea because it's like harmless, right. It's like, ultimately my dad looks pretty much fixed at that point, and it was almost like, I guess, like a kid yanking your pigtail, you know, and be like that's just you know, like what are
you going to do about it? And just playing like little jokes on you. But yeah, I don't know. I guess I do like the idea of them living inside the rocks and that they take it so seriously, like we're not just going to destroy their habitat on the very blim chance that they are real, because we don't want to make them mad.
Yeah, just don't take your chances with it, Like why not?
Yeah exactly.
It sounds like a great life to be one of these little creatures because like what people just do whatever you want. They'll give you an offerings, they give you gifts, and then you're if they don't, you're allowed to just steal their shit, like yeah, I want that.
Let's just snatch whatever you think looks good, like I like this, look the color.
Come on now, Okay, So tell me the story about your father.
Oh, my dad. Uh, I was very close to my dad. My dad was like the ultimate girl dad. He was air Force and so that that's part of the story. It's important part of the story and I'm in stem. I always had a very early interest in science, and he was just like, you know, yeah, she's going to go all the way. So he'd like send me stories from like the Air Force times about like this woman did something, you know in the Air Force, and I thought you would like this. I'm like, oh, thanks, Dad.
So unfortunately, he passed in two's and very ill with cancer, and you know it was expected, but I had taken care of him the last like eighteen months of his life with my mom, and uh, you know when he went, you know, like I said, it was sad, but like we were prepared for it. So I got a new job like ten months after he died, and then I moved back to Washington, DC for my new job. And so I'm unpacking in my new place and I realized that I can't find my car keys like anywhere, and
I have a fob for my car. And of course, like I called Triple A and they're like, oh, your car, if it was a year newer, we could replace for you for like I don't know, like eighty bucks.
Or something like that.
But because you.
Missed the cutoff, you have to go through the dealership. I call the dealership. The dealership's like five hundred dollars, and I'm like, oh my god. And of course, like I just moved, and I'm sure like anybody who you know has ever done like an interstate move understands like you're pretty tight on money, you know, because like you've paid a whole bunch of bills just to move. And I'm like, oh, five hundred dollars, got that so much money?
I was like kicking myself for being so careless. And I had been, you know, looking for the keys for like at this point, can't find them anywhere. And while I'm looking for them, I had like a very bad habit of losing the keys, like throughout my entire like driving life, and my dad was always like, put them in the same place every time, and you'll never lose them again. I'm like, okay, whatever that, And of course
I never followed that advice. And I'm like, oh god, you're probably laughing and like you can't believe, of course you lost your keys again.
What is it with this kid?
And as I'm doing this, I start finding like little souvenirs for my dad, like things that he had given me. So like I find money from the Philippines from like the nineteen sixties because he was there, you know, he
was you know, station near there at the time. And I'm like, okay, and I found like a coaster for the DFW, and I found like his Air Force wings and I'm like, Dad, God damn it, Like this is all well and good, but this is not helped me find my keys, Like if you're going to try to help me, like buy my keys for me, for God's sake, And you know, very annoyed at this point because it's like I'm going to have to pay five hundred dollars.
I'm so mad at myself. My dog, who has been you know with saying, she goes over, stares in the corner where there is nothing there, there's nothing. She's just staring at the wall, but she's looking at something like very intently and very excitedly, and she's wagging her tail. And she as my dad was dying, my dog would go in and check on him and like boop them
and like comfort them. And so she like trosts out, you know, ahead of me, plants yourself in front of my couch, stares at it and is wagging her tail. And I took turned to the dog and I said, you know, to the dog, I'm like, my keys aren't in the couch. And then I pull out my hand
and my keys are in my hand. The dog like literally was like, hey, your dad just told me this is where you left your keys, because I checked the couch like twice at this point, and I was fully expecting to reach an air and get like a handful of crumbs and maybe a dime. But nope, my keys in my hand.
That's so cool.
So after that I now have them on a hook in the same place every time.
Well, this has been lovely and I so appreciate your your historical knowledge and everything. This is great. Oh, thank you and thanks for being a listener. Thanks Ron, Thank you so much to Meche Storm, Miguel and Margaret. As always, I would love to have you on a future Listener episode.
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