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Getting Out #61 Breaking The Cycle & Creating Inner Wealth w/ Miles Santo

Sep 02, 20241 hr 10 minSeason 2Ep. 61
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From Dentist to Shaman: How after spending 8 years in school chasing a degree and building up his fathers Dentist Office. He’s decided to leave that all behind in search of a bigger and brighter pursuit….The pursuit of happiness. The real american dream. Getting Out the Podcast # 61 My First 1v1 interview 

In this episode, I sit down with an old friend I’ve known since kindergarten, who took a wild journey from the dental chair to the great outdoors. After years of grinding it out in dental school and a successful dentist—miles realized the 9-to-5 life wasn’t for him. 

Enter the shaman: a chance encounter that changed everything. 

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Connection to Earth and Blue Light

Speaker 1

Your end Miles .

Speaker 2

Sounds crystal clear . How close does this need to be ?

Speaker 1

So we call it , us sound guys . We call it the proximity effect , which is called . It's a two to six inch from your mouth gives you that radio sound , but you have to know how to use it . It's like as a singer too . That's one thing I was horrible with is mic control .

Speaker 2

Okay .

Speaker 1

But I got better through the years because I never even knew that was a thing . When you sing you have to actually control the microphone because there's no . Well , nowadays there might actually be , like I said , I don't know . Okay , so many things have changed .

There might actually be processing nowadays for the uh , actually be processing nowadays for the uh , for the actual uh recording on stage , but usually there's no compressor or anything , which means there's just no , nothing to make your voice sound even uh . So you would have to pull away on , like got it , you gotta go yeah but that's how it is .

Thank you for the compliment . I mean but welcome , mr Miles Santo .

Speaker 2

Hey , it's been a long time coming , oh my god , that's what .

Speaker 1

It's been a very , very long time . So this is my friend . Since what ? Kindergarten ?

Speaker 2

Yes , yeah , yeah , yeah , and go back a long time and I'm saying like , like by the hip .

Speaker 1

We live down the street From each other Crazy . So introduce yourself , man . I know he has his own podcast too . Give it a shout out , go ahead .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it's called the Radical Collective Podcast . Right now , I am currently a dentist in New Jersey .

I'm 34 years old , I've got a wife and a son who's almost three , and I also have a men's coaching business and I also have the Radical Collective , which is a group of five men who've come together to really help other men radicalize their life and actualize their potential . So we've got a community of 65 men in there .

Right now we're running a free challenge and it's going to turn into a paid community going forward and it's it's been a lot of fun . So , yeah , it's kind of what we got going on .

Speaker 1

That's awesome , dude . That's what you see . I need a coach . I got a coach right until you guys get some help . I'm trying to get some help , no , but like even before , like just you know we're setting up , and he was saying something like really , things are like opening my eyes about blue light and my sleeping patterns . That could be very .

That could be a thing you know , that could be affecting my health right now , because there's something going on , you know , and I'm not sleeping right because of something , and I don't know what it is . I've tried to narrow it down to food . I've tried to narrow it down to food .

I've tried to narrow it down to , like you know , not eating before I go to bed . Not doing this , not doing that , I still can't go to bed . It's still like dude . Five o'clock in the morning on the dot is when my body will tell me go to sleep . It's so weird .

Speaker 2

Every time On the dot 5 am .

Speaker 1

Yeah , it's so weird , I don't know how deep people want to get Go ahead . No , this is candid , open conversation .

Speaker 2

Sure sure .

Speaker 1

But anything you don't want to say , you don't want to say . But like candid as you want to be .

Speaker 2

Should I be looking over here .

Speaker 1

You could do whatever . No , you're looking at me , but you can break the third wall if you want . You know what I mean . Let them know what's going on .

Speaker 2

This is a very official setup .

Speaker 1

Thank you , my friend , I appreciate it . I'm very , very much impressed .

Speaker 2

So we just used the freaking computer when we're talking .

Speaker 1

I'm trying .

Speaker 2

There are different levels to this podcast game .

Speaker 1

Yeah , thank you .

Speaker 2

So , as far as blue light goes , it's a light game . We've got receptors in our eyes that are actually receiving dopamine input from the blue light and it's actually cuing the mind to not want to go to sleep .

So if we're looking at our phone before we go to sleep or we've got our blue light alarm clock next to us , or we got , or we're falling asleep to the tv , we're receiving blue light inputs that are actually tricking our mind into thinking that we should still be awake , because blue light is artificial and it's giving this idea that it's not time for bed .

So artificial , you're saying any light , then Any fake light , any artificial light is blue light that is tricking your mind into thinking you should stay awake , so it throws off your circadian rhythm and circadian rhythm health is essential to you operating in a vital and vibrant way .

So if you are feeling like it's hard to wake up in the morning or you feel like you're actually never having your feet touch the ground simple things like this where you wake up , you put on your shoes .

Speaker 1

Whoa , what does that even mean ? Because that like really connected with me , but I had no idea what you were talking about . Does that make sense ?

Speaker 2

well , think about how disconnected we are from the way that our ancestors , ancestors , ancestors used to live on the earth our feet were connected to the ground I always think about , always on the ground and we would receive input from the actual earth's core . We would receive different levels of frequency from the earth . So this is what grounding is .

So you are not the individual , you part of the whole . But now we become individuals , we're segmented and and sec you separated .

So we wake up in the morning and we go ahead and take our shower , we put on our shoes , we eat our breakfast , we're out the door to work , we drive in a car , still never having touched the ground , we sit in our corporate office for eight hours under blue light . You maybe have some lunch , but it's probably while you're staring at your phone .

So you're getting inundated with blue light and all these artificial inputs . And you go home at five or five or six o'clock feeling drained from the day . Then you put on your tv and you microwave your food and then you go ahead and go to sleep , but you're having a hard time falling asleep .

Speaker 1

You don't know why and then I fucking painted my shit blue , exactly no no , this is fine , this is okay , but wait , no , that is so crazy , but like the fact that you're saying feet touch the ground and like everything's connected , because I don't know if you know , but like there has been a weird situation going on with where we had a small , which I thought

was I did three years in prison , dude , you could not have a small cut on your arm and touch the wall because it's like that's how . Like you did not know how what kind , what was , who touched it . Like when you walked into a cell , you cleaned the walls , the ceiling with bleach . You'd ask the officer yeah , can I get some bleach ? What's it for ?

I got to wipe down the cell . Oh , okay , no problem , they understood , they knew what it was for . You got to wipe down everything , clean , disinfect everything . That's how it was , that was . I didn't know that before I went in . This is my first time and only time , and you never again . Do me a favor , do like a little twist and pull up .

You know I'm saying like there you go .

Speaker 2

So yeah , yeah that beautiful smile , that smile bro , those are like fucking damn .

Speaker 1

I , I can't . I'm lucky I still got my teeth . Your teeth are beautiful .

Speaker 2

Teeth are fucking beautiful well , what was I saying ?

Speaker 1

so yeah , so like yeah , so we had a small , like a little mold problem and I like I because of that , because of the whole person situation , I blew , like I really got paranoid about like little things and I noticed that things that are in usually ever in every house , that , like you know , the small issues that people should fix , that usually they don't fix

that . But like I started noticing them and I started getting more and more paranoid , more like about my health and worried about the thing , like things like that . And I noticed that the more I fucking put my feet on the ground and paid attention to the things that were underneath me , not like above me , like does that make sense ? Like it was so weird .

I never looked down , dude , I was always look . Yeah , I , I mean I looked at the phone and I looked at the screen all the time , but I was never looking . Like I never looked down to me . Like I never looked down , like what was I actually stepping on ? You know ? Like what was my , what was my foot connecting with ?

And like underneath , and because I would watch that mushroom documentary and it says like about all how that everything's connected underneath itself and wow , yeah , well you're .

Speaker 2

You're receiving inputs from all the things that are on the ground around you and you're becoming part of the whole , like I said before . So there's a sacred connectedness to the land and to god that we all have that oftentimes we're closed off to because we're not actually touching the earth .

But one of the simplest things we can do in the morning if we want to reset our circadian health . All you have to do is wake up three mornings in a row , see the sunrise with your feet on the ground , and your circadian health will reset . She said get the fuck out of here no way .

Speaker 1

Three days .

Speaker 2

Three days , so you go , you know , depending on what time of the year , but I started waking up with the sunrise back in February earlier this year and we also cut out TV at the same time . So we had our son stop watching TV and we started waking up with the sun .

And when we started doing that , big changes in the family dynamic occurred because people were feeling a lot more regulated and they want to pop a pill . They talk about needing to see their therapist . Here's another pill . Take this . Take that we have a society that wants us to go ahead and really treat the symptom but we're not treating the cure .

And as a doctor , I can actually speak to the fact that a lot of medical doctors are not trained in teaching you about a more holistic approach to living life . Thank you .

Speaker 1

It's always like what did the pharmacist , or whatever they're called , what are they called ?

Speaker 2

They come and give you the drug , no pharmacist , no , I'm saying like they push the drug for you .

Speaker 1

They were like , oh , we have this new drug . The pharma reps .

Speaker 2

Yeah , the reps .

Speaker 1

The representatives .

Speaker 2

Yeah , but the reps are just being commissioned . That's what I'm saying . They come towards you .

Speaker 1

Those are the drugs that they , they push on you . Dude , like and I am a perfect example , I'm a guinea pig , I have this one therapist that finally , they really was like what the fuck is going on ? She's like , look at how many medications they have put . They tried everything on me . Dude , it was literally like , oh , he's fucking , he's using drugs .

He must be and gotten , you know , got got in trouble . He must be like bipolar dude . I was labeled bipolar . I was labeled like x , y , z , like so many different things , miles and like a like thrown medication , like and like just , oh , we sit , wait to eat .

I'm like yo , my jaw , I'm like my jaw is like hurting , like I can't really , like I'm I don't understand it like I'm getting a tight jaw , like just give it two weeks to kick in . I'm a kid , I don't know any better . I'm listening to these fucking doctors , like doctors supposed to help me .

It's like a cop , you know they're supposed to be one that's supposed to cure me , supposed to be one that , like that , like to teach me the things that you do . Right , you know , and we weren't like , well , it's sad .

Speaker 2

There's a level of respect that doctors have in society based on their standing because of the schooling and whatnot . But really the longer you go to school , the more indoctrinated you become in the system so in this reality . A lot of doctors are not actually for you . They're for themselves or they're for the insurance company .

I know it's so a lot of times it's like they're incentivized , even with the covid vaccine , like how many times did you get vaccinated ? You're getting a certain level of payout from that stuff and I know that sounds really outlandish and might piss some people off , but that's based on paperwork that I fucking saw . So it was congress , it was congress , you .

Speaker 1

It's crazy too . It's like it's so out of whack how this whole country is . Is that like , like my parents are not stupid people at all . Like you know what I mean ? I do not consider my parents to be stupid , but I'm trying to . I was saying I thank Whatever anyone has to say about Elon Musk .

Thank God he bought Twitter because of what they were doing with that vaccine . Shit was crazy . No one would have found out about that . Yeah , thank you . Like , honestly I Like savior . Yeah , like that was like no one would have found out about that . Like , yeah , thank you . Like he , honestly I huge . Like savior . Yeah , like that was a huge hit .

Like I was a home run . Thank god for that . And then I was trying to explain it to them and they were like , when did that happen ? It never happened . Like , yes , well , I was like that was in front of congress yeah , well , you know you can't watch the news you know , news controls everything .

Speaker 2

I get censored and whatnot , so there's a whole rabbit hole . But I actually want to bring this back go ahead , yeah , go ahead . You got failed by society , jesse , and I want you to understand that it's not your fault that you went through these experiences . I knew you when you were seven .

You weren't this guy who had these problems and needed to go be in prison and whatnot . You're not a menace to society . They called me that dude , but you're not Okay . I need you to hear me . You're not . I know you .

Finding Authenticity Through Childhood Memories

I talk to my clients all the time about authenticity . You know one of the easiest ways to understand your authenticity Start thinking about your childhood , zero to seven . That's when you are your most pure self , before you get conditioned by society and by what others teach you to be , not who you were born to be .

So a lot of times we go through a process of discovering our true self .

If we want to find who our true self is , one of the quickest ways is to actually go ahead and think about your child and who you were at that age , before you had other people's expectations and wounds placed upon you because that person who talked to you when you were a child and you were in school and they yelled at you you don't know what kind of shit

was going on in their life , where they might have been projecting onto you because of some other wounding that they never dealt with . So there's a lot of trauma in this world that gets pushed onto others and you're now absorbing other people's trauma and it has nothing to do with you .

I do , and we do and I and I know it's done I do the same thing , but as a child you need to survive , so you grab onto whatever you can to help you survive because you can't take care of yourself . So now , all of a sudden , you're living a life that's not yours because you want survival .

But when you get older , you don't need protection from your parents any longer , but you already have too much of an ingrained conditioning within you based on that survival mechanism that was within you when you were younger . So I want you to know and hear from me that it's not your fault . It's not your fault .

You were failed by society because of the ways that they could help you rehabilitate . Could have been a lot more holistic and healthy , but instead they looked at you like let me just push this thing onto him and get him out of my office as fast as possible .

Speaker 1

They literally put me on a maintenance drug that I've been trying to get off for fucking a year dude .

Speaker 2

And they won't even listen to you .

Speaker 1

They won't even let me get off of it no ?

Speaker 2

No , because they're not trained in it .

Speaker 1

Jesse . They told me , the lady told me I swear on everything I fucking love . And my grandmother said , like I want to go down and my dosage is like trying to get off of everything and I just want to like I smoke weed I was like I could see , like that it got me off my antidepressants . It got me like back to like where I was .

I was in so much pain , like , and I was like at least I'm not taking four pills . You know that at least one thing and not four things , and that four things were like really not was making me a person I didn't like , I was very mean , you know , like very like snappy , and you know I still am because of the sleeping . But I know , I'm aware of it .

I wasn't aware of anything before , I was just going .

Speaker 2

Here's a hard truth You're worth more sick than you are healthy .

Speaker 1

Wow , that's a crazy , crazy thing . That is a .

Speaker 2

that's a quote , right there you are , you feed the system and they profit off of you being sick more than if you were healthy .

Speaker 1

Like criminal , like you're worth more as a criminal than you are , as like a drug dealer as you are as a fucking you know we get paid .

Speaker 2

There's only two countries in the whole world that can have pharmaceutical advertisements that I know oh , my god you're .

Speaker 1

I love that . You said that not many people know about that or even talk about that new zealand .

Speaker 2

That's it , or ?

Speaker 1

even talk about that . Cable television doesn't . It shouldn't even exist anymore and the only reason it does is because of sports and fucking advertisements and insurance companies . Yeah , but what are sports is ?

Speaker 2

this . I know it's going to be going to fucking it , but it's a distraction , oh absolutely it's a distraction from the self .

Speaker 1

It's just the modern and that's a fucking amazing , by the way , grade a grade a sports player through the through , the through the ball like 100 miles an hour . I was so afraid to step up to that plate when we were playing baseball in little league .

Dude , my brother and my mom coached my team one time like I don't know if you remember that and like you . You were probably middletown little league like if you could tell I right now like he was always a bigger , like just like fucking beast and like I was .

I was always a chubbier kid , but still like I went up to that plate and like you were the only person that ever could tackle me when we played football . Remember , I remember ?

Speaker 2

you would go for the legs .

Speaker 1

Yes , I would I'll let you smart about this .

Speaker 2

I hit you . I hit you right above your knee and you flipped over my shoulder cause no one was getting me bro , I was running you over and you were like yo , I'm not .

Speaker 1

You were smart as you could dude . You're a smart motherfucker , you still are . And you came at me and no one was figuring out how to take my ass down , cause everyone was coming for me at the top .

Speaker 2

You were like bulldozers . You were thinking like a fucking had a trigonometry .

Speaker 1

You were like bulldozers . You were thinking like a fucking like had a trigonometry . You're like all right , I'm gonna come at him from this angle , hit him clip , take him out I still have that edge in my brain . You flipped over bro , I don't even think I got mad .

I was like yo , that was fucking all it was kind of like one of those hits where we all like we all like stopped .

Speaker 2

We're like , wait , what just happened ? Yeah , yeah , but if people haven't figured this out yet , jesse was the ringleader of the crew , like like he was he was . It was like , hey , what are we doing ? Well , let's see what jesse was , you know , and not in a bad way , not not like he's the boss , you know , it was just like he had a big personality .

So we all wanted to see what jesse wanted to do I , I just it was .

Speaker 1

I mean , I just missed . I I don't miss the day , I don't , I never and things like I never looked at it that way , like it wasn't like me , it felt like it just felt like us , you know it just felt like us .

Speaker 2

I never looked at it that way .

Speaker 1

I just thought it was like the reason why . It was because me and you had like a bigger place to be I never looked at it as if we had more money , either to like as kids but now is growing dude .

Speaker 2

We lived in okil section of middletown .

Speaker 1

There's a lot of money everywhere but no , I know , but still , there was people coming to like , sure , it didn't have a lot of money , and I didn't realize till now about the attention and things that I was getting as I grew older , because of the material shit that I had , sure , and I never understood it until .

Speaker 2

I was older , isn't that ?

Speaker 1

crazy Because growing up it just was like something I was so used to having , and I was homeless for like a year and a half , two years too . So I went through everything from having it all . You know like . You saw the house . We both lived in it , Bro . His house was even it all . You saw the house . We both lived in it , Bro .

His house was even sicker . You had the indoor pool , Bro . Inside pool , your dad would come out and play fucking basketball with us and , bro , I would get so scared because his chest had so much hair on it . You know what I'm saying . You know what ? He didn't care . He flaunted it Like you do with air .

Speaker 2

Lying me on the chest . It's still there .

Speaker 1

Good for him , dude . That's how he's doing . Come on , dude , stick that shit out . When he would come and dunk , he would dunk on our asses , right in my face , like it was in that movie .

Speaker 2

You're speaking of something important , though that when you're in something , it's hard to remove yourself from it and see it with a bird's eye view . So having that perspective now gives you a different level of perspective .

As you move forward , you want to maybe have your own place , create a family , all these things , and you start thinking about it a little differently . So for me it's like amazing child , super blessed , like to be able to live in a house . That was that big childhood memories are unbelievable . But like do I actually need those things ?

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

Now I know I don't . It was great to have them . Maybe you need to have them . No , you don't need them . But , like now , I actually want to live a much more minimalist life . I actually want less .

So I'm actually going through the process of , like , selling my two cars , I'm selling my house , I'm going to move in with my mother , like we're trying to have less Take in Because we don't need as much .

Speaker 1

What do you have ? And the more you have , the more you have to take care of , the more responsibility comes with those , those things you know , and then the more responsibility comes with the not having of . Well , now that you spent that money , the responsibility comes with paying those bills afterwards .

Speaker 2

Of course .

Speaker 1

You have to look at that bank account afterwards , be able to look your wife or partner in the face to explain that bill .

Speaker 2

And that's the tough spot . Something I walk my clients through , though , is these things that we gather , these material possessions . What are they really representing to us and what is the value system that we hold near and dear to our heart that are these material possessions actually fitting the values that are closest to us ?

So , if I have a value of freedom , is having ABC thing in my house actually helping me be more free or not ? So we start to make decisions from an intentional base place of saying , okay , if I buy this thing , is it actually moving the needle toward my value of sacred connection ? Is it moving me toward my value of love ?

If it's not , I probably don't need it . So if I really believe these values are most important to me , then every decision I make in my life should be moving toward having those values be more present , because those are the ones that actually matter to me .

So now , all of a sudden , you've escaped the matrix because you don't need to fit in with the Joneses .

Speaker 1

Escape the matrix . Yes , I'm loving Dude . You're such on my page now . Oh my God , you're always on the same page . I mean , just like you know how people I've got , when I got out of prison felt like the world changed miles , like in , like a bad way , and like I didn't know where I was and like I really was lost for a little bit and like that's how .

But I , that's how , the way I am , I'm more , I'm leaning that way now and I was trying to push it on other people . I think .

Speaker 2

That's important is that a lot of times , people , if you have these views or these alternative beliefs or God forbid you're a conspiracy theorist . A lot of times you're pushing your beliefs onto others to the point that they're now saying you're not welcome because I don't want to hear your beliefs .

But if you can actually live your life in an embodied way where people just get curious like what's he doing ? yes , just live your life by your actions , then you don't need to talk about it . So you don't have to keep speaking about it . You just are , yeah , so the more you are , the more people get curious , and that's vibrancy .

So people are a magnet that get drawn to you . They're just curious . It's like a fly in a light .

Speaker 1

That's what I've been trying . They want to see what's going on . That's it . It's been like .

It's been like , not even just like just been doing , like you know , like whoa planning stuff and just doing it , and when the time is come , comes to it , like when that time comes of it's happening , then , like you know , they'll know or whatnot , but like I , I just put it in my head so I don't let anyone else fuck with that negativity .

You know , fuck , put that energy and put that down 2020 was a big year for everybody yeah , bro , isn't that crazy that I was the year I went to fucking prison .

Speaker 2

You went to prison and I woke up , but guess what ? I was living a life that others told me to live . And it was in 2020 that I started to realize that I was living a life that actually was not of my own choosing . Maybe I made choices , but they were from faulty programming and conditioning .

So then it was this process of peeling back the layers and discovering who actually is Miles , and then making decisions for Miles as opposed to for other things , discovering who actually is Miles and then making decisions for Miles as opposed to for other things . And once I started doing that , you can't unsee what you now see with open eyes .

And when you do that it's like wow . I mean , hey look , when the COVID vaccine first came out , I'm a dentist sitting here getting told I'm not going to be able to be a doctor anymore if I don't get vaccinated . So I'm like , well , all right , I'll go get vaccinated once they come out with it .

But then it took them another six months or nine months or whatever it was , to actually develop it , and at that point I had woken up too much . I was like I can't , I can't do that , and I had to decide how important is that value to me over my career .

And it worked out that I was still able to continue my career , but I had patients leave the practice when they found out I wasn't vaccinated Cause , they were like I can't stand for that . Now some of them actually came back because they went to other places . They're like I don't like the care I'm getting there .

I'm like well , just because I'm vaccinated doesn't mean that I don't care the same . So you're going to get care from me because I'm Miles , miles is Miles .

Parenting, Society, and Work-Life Balance

But they were judging me because I didn't get vaccinated . How is that ?

Speaker 1

It's such a crazy thing to judge a person off of , like you know whether , what , what but again , it's the doctor is the responsible one .

Speaker 2

You're the one that I'm supposed to respect you're not getting it . You're not following the science . What kind of a doctor are you ?

Speaker 1

so now , all of a sudden , they they're doubting and judging what kind of a caliber of doctor are you ?

Speaker 2

and there was a lot of fear . There was like well , I can't let anyone know , I'm not vaccinated , but see the thing .

Speaker 1

The thing is too , but at that point it was such an unknown thing Like is this really a thing to be scared of ? Is it really this vaccine ? That vaccine was like motherfucking yo . That was like pathic . Rothfuss wrote that shit . You know , the new book finally came out . He wrote that shit fast , so fast . What the fuck ?

Speaker 2

how did that happen ? Well , but everything that happened in 2020 played the fear , and fear is the lowest emotion . Maybe it could be a positive motivator for people .

Speaker 1

I'm saying the vaccine came out so fast and like I'm saying how do you know that , like I'm saying , how do you know that , like you're not right ?

Speaker 2

How do you know that your doctor Because the news told you that I was wrong .

Speaker 1

But then you also have people the government , hiding things that you like , doctors like you that went out and actually did their research , looked into what this vaccine was , who it , how fast it was done , if there was any like what the clinical trials actually entailed who , how many people and like what the actual regulations were , and if anyone knows any , which

I actually don't , I actually went a little bit into the rabbit hole . It's fucking ridiculous . They actually the regulations for vaccines are not really there we could go there if you want , but you know that like right , isn't that something like it's true ?

Speaker 2

right , there's no black box labels , the whole night hep like hepatitis b .

Speaker 1

Yeah , what the fuck is ? I heard when some , when I found out that hepatitis b was like something that no one has like it's like something , but they give it to your kid the second they're born . Yes , and no one ever gets it . Like it was a thing that no one ever gets , it's because it could maybe be transmitted when the kid's born .

Yeah , maybe like a one , like it was like a percentage of . Like a percentage .

Speaker 2

It's just look when we were kids and , by the way , I got vaccinated as a kid yeah we did .

Speaker 1

I got every vaccine under the sun . We had to go to school .

Speaker 2

I got every vaccine under the sun , but when we were kids there were like 12 or 19, . Whatever number it was , it was small . It was less than 20 vaccines that we had to get . Oh really , thank God . Now it's well over 65 vaccines ?

Speaker 1

No way , yeah , no way , yeah . Are you serious Within the first couple of years ? I don't know about that . I don't know about that .

Speaker 2

Yeah , well , I know about it .

Speaker 1

Yeah , because you're a kid . That's what I'm saying . I didn't know .

Speaker 2

Within the first couple of years you're getting like 60 plus vaccines . What the fuck ? But that's why autism numbers are skyrocketing , thank you . And it's also overst the reliance of TV and things of this nature . So we don't have enough energy to take care of ourselves . So God forbid we had enough energy for our kids .

So you know what we do instead is we outsource our parenting to this technology to take care of our kids . But our kids just get more overstimulated and they become terrors , and then you just want to throw them in decor and you want to have other people pay .

You want to pay other people to take care of your kids and you care of your kids and you want to give because you have to , because you have to go work two jobs , be able to be able to put enough food on the table and that's no one's fault , but that's society's issue . Society broke the family unit . That's what happened .

The family unit got disintegrated by society because we told women they had to start go working my mom , my mom .

Speaker 1

My mom was a stay-at-home mom oh man , I was gonna say remember we always had to be home for fucking dinner at 5 , like 5.30 or 6 o'clock , always . That was the thing . Go out , have fun with your friends , do your homework , yeah , and then be home for dinner .

Speaker 2

Be home for dinner , yeah , yeah . But my mom was saying to her mom , but she used to catch flack from the women who worked Well , you're not working hard enough Me . Let me tell you this .

Speaker 1

That's the hardest job in the fucking world .

Speaker 2

My wife's a dentist . She would trade being a dentist any day of the week over being a mom .

Speaker 1

It doesn't mean she doesn't love our son , I know , but it's hard . It sure is harder . It's hard , dude . I don't understand that .

Speaker 2

So the second we pushed our women back into all having to work to be seeing their value in society . We then broke the family unit because now you had two parents working and of course costs went up . So now you have the need to make more money to be able to then go ahead and feed the family . So who's going to take care of the kids ?

It's either grandma or you're sending them to daycare . But what's happening at daycare ? There's 25 people . At best you got one person taking care of these 25 kids and they're not getting the attention or the rearing that they need . Wow , that's so true and they're just running rampant too .

But there's a myth in society that will tell you that if your kid goes to daycare , they're going to be more socialized . So because my kid hasn't gone to daycare , he's automatically not as socialized as other kids and they think the learning improves because they go to daycare . Now look , I'm not judging parents , but because their kids in daycare .

If you have to do it , you have to do it , and that's the way society is so how do you do it ?

Speaker 1

What do you do ?

Speaker 2

What would be your ?

Speaker 1

preference . If the ideal society , what would it be ?

Speaker 2

Ideal preference is that our society doesn't have to send both parents to work , and actually we could find a way where both parents could have value and purpose outside of being parents but still also make enough money for for their family to go and survive as well .

So in this instance , I used to work five days a week and I wasn't around for my son the first year of his life . I knew it .

Speaker 1

I knew . That's why you were like you were doing a grind . You were just doing a grind , I was doing the grind .

Speaker 2

I was doing the grind and I wasn't around as a dad . It's crazy . Trying to get out of that . So I looked change my schedule . But I changed my schedule from five days to four , then four to three , but I actually kept my production the same . So I made myself more valuable in less time . So the business didn't suffer .

So now other people in a corporate position might not have this flexibility . So that's where I have a big privilege being in a family business . So you just stacked your appointments . I basically just worked longer hours on shorter days . Yeah , you know . So I have Tuesdays . I work eight to seven . So smart so but that gave me Fridays off .

Speaker 1

So I have four days off in a row . That's why these diet dentists have the weird hours . Yo , I'm always like why does this fucking dude ?

Speaker 2

he's closed on . What the fuck ? How did dentists do that ? It's actually a very grueling job . It's actually very tough on the body . So like doing five days of dentistry in a row is a fast recipe to breaking down your body and not being vital at all . So for me , one of my values is vitality .

I want to be as healthy as I possibly can be , so the less I'm out of the chair , or rather , the more I'm out of the chair , the better , because can be healthier . So I'm sitting in a room like this hunched over . You're drilling these old amalgams , you got mercury flying everywhere . Where's the mercury at ? It's in the silver , all those silver fillings .

Speaker 1

you got what the ?

Speaker 2

fuck is silver ? That oh shit yeah .

Speaker 1

Dude , yeah , your dad , because yo that's so funny your dad was my dentist , my whole dad . Your dad was my dentist .

Speaker 2

My whole life your dad was my dentist ?

Speaker 1

Funny as shit . I never , I think I got like I had like a lot of cavities as a kid , but then there was a point where I just stopped getting cavities . Well when I stopped using fucking fluoride shitty in like that Toothpaste and just using a fucking toothbrush . I swear to god , I was just using a toothbrush and water and I stopped using toothbrush .

I was a kid because I was a fucking menace and I was doing that for like a year and I thought that I was going to go to your dad and he was going to rip me to shreds and I don't know how young I was , cause I was seeing him to , probably was like 12 or something and I went and I had not like he's like not no cavities .

I'm like get the fuck out of here . But I told him I have this one tooth and I still have it dude tooth . And I still have it dude . And I remember to this day .

I remember to this day the what he told me and like the reason for it , because it's still there and it's still the same pain and I'm always wondering not to no offense to you , dad , or anything if , like , if it at really what , if that's really what it is , because it hurts sometimes , but I it's like a one-time thing , like I'll hit it , like I'll just ,

and it just shoots and like , but my like it doesn't . I don't have a cavity in the back , like I don't see anything a lot of reasons he said it . But he said it's probably because I grind my teeth at night .

Speaker 2

That was the first thought I had that's not trying to get , but that's .

Speaker 1

But that's how probably you're but you said that before we even started the

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episode . It's like it looks like you grind your teeth , and I was you ?

Speaker 2

you call me a crunchy dentist . I don't . I don't use fluoride either why would I ?

Speaker 1

I I did not think you would . No , yeah , I don't .

Speaker 2

I don't think you would , if you're I let our patients choose what they want , though I'm not going to push my beliefs onto people . You use what you want . I'll just educate , and it's your choice to make a decision . You're an adult .

Speaker 1

Oh I know my teeth are 10 times whiter and a lot cheaper since I started using it . Do you use the charcoal too ? Have you ever tried that shit ?

Speaker 2

No . If anybody's using charcoal stop using it Really use it . Yeah , it's all . It's all a gimmick reason , bro . It got my teeth so white . Yeah , but it's taking your enamel off , fuck , fuck .

Speaker 1

So it makes your teeth whiter now , no , no , don't tell me that dude , I was so happy , dude , I was like pushing this on everybody , I mean , hey , it's no , it's , that's not good , tell me . Tell me , no , dude it charcoal is abrasive .

Speaker 2

so if you're falling for the gimmick , it's not good , tell me . No , dude , it charcoals abrasive . So if you're falling for the gimmick , it's not your fault .

Speaker 1

There we go Give me the information . That's what we need .

Speaker 2

It's an abrasive thing . So what it's going to do is it's going to take your enamel off . So over the long run , you're going to expose something called dentin , which is the material underneath enamel .

Speaker 1

Guess what dentin is Fuck .

Speaker 2

Damn it . More yellow , More yellow . All enamel is pretty much yellow . We're all different shades of yellow . People are like , oh , you got white teeth . It's like , actually I'm just a different shade of yellow .

Speaker 1

Wow , crazy .

Speaker 2

That's crazy . If someone has actual white teeth , they're fake . That's crazy . Yeah , no way . So anyway , I don't want to give too much of a dental lesson here .

Speaker 1

Yeah , that's crazy . So wait , do you do actually like oral operation , like if I needed like veneers or something , would you be the person to do ?

Speaker 2

it . Yeah , yeah . Veneers are actually the thing I probably enjoy the most because the artistry aspect of it . Really I love the art behind it ? Oh , because you have to mold the actual and and also it's also helping create a smile transformation , which leads to more confidence for people .

So you don't know what kind of a ripple effect can be created from a smile . So the one aspect of dentistry that's really cool is when you create a smile , you create more confidence for somebody and they might just go get a job or they might have the confidence to go start a new career .

Speaker 1

that they wouldn't have had before they changed their smile .

Speaker 2

So even though it's just teeth , it could be more far ranging . It could be much more impactful than just teeth , so to speak . So of course , we love to chew . We eat a thousand meals a year , by the way .

So if you need motivation to make sure you're going to the dentist like , proactive dentistry is always cheaper than reactive dentistry so just go get your clinics . That's what I'm saying . Just go get your clinics , be proactive . Get them checked out . It's all good yeah absolutely .

Speaker 1

Anyway , I don't want to talk about that . No , that's something that I like learning stuff that I don't know . But thank God you told me that , dude , because I was amazed by this fucking shit , because I could never get the back of my teeth to look as white as the front .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that's right .

Speaker 1

No , now you told me that Good , Can I just ask ?

Speaker 2

before you go , one suggestion for your toothpaste . There's no good toothpaste .

Speaker 1

There's no good one .

Speaker 2

Yeah , so the reason .

Speaker 1

That's why I was .

Speaker 2

The reason I think there's no good toothpaste is if you look at the ingredients . I talk about vitality . Ingredients are the most important thing to look at .

Okay , if you want to avoid the aging that is rampant in society , you need to be looking at the ingredients , because it's the way that we live our life that's creating a lot of the toxicity and the aging and it's in our food . Our processed food is garbage . Now our toothpaste has a lot . Sit here and tell you don't brush your teeth .

But there's no good toothpaste that I've found that's going to help you avoid the xanthan gums or the natural flavors . That's MSG . That's not a good thing .

Speaker 1

You don't want to have the natural flavors never go .

Speaker 2

You don't want you have seltzer . There's natural flavors .

Speaker 1

Are you serious ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , go have a I don't even remember the brand , not the Pellegrino .

Speaker 1

Don't tell me you're saying Pelle , no , not Pellegrino .

Speaker 2

Pellegrino's okay , and it's in glass , so I'm a big fan of you . Buy things in glass ?

Speaker 1

Yes , I know . So that way you're avoiding the microplastics ? Yes , I know . All of that nature . I always look at the mark on the bottom .

Speaker 2

So if you're having a hot cup of coffee in a plastic cup , all you're doing is leaching the plastic out of the cup , and then you're drinking plastic .

Speaker 1

Regardless of what kind of plastic it is . Not even if it's like the grade four or five .

Speaker 2

I mean , well , I'm not so knowledgeable . I'm not going to tell you that there's different levels of microplastic leakage . Yeah , but you'd have to look , yeah because you know that thing on the .

Speaker 1

Did you know that that triangle on the bottom ? Yeah , I have fucking no idea . Like that's why I love labels , but again , you can buy a label .

Speaker 2

I mean you can buy a label . You can buy a label . You can buy a label . You can buy a fucking label . I mean I don't even even organic food like big organic is still just another . It works for Whole Foods . If you want to trust your food the absolute most you can , it's honestly going and shaking the farmer's hand that you're working with .

So I go and pick up a hundred pounds of meat every six months . Get the fuck out of here , yeah , yeah . And I go to the local . I go to the local farmer's market .

Speaker 1

That's what the fuck is going on . Yeah , so it's like it's getting to identity .

Speaker 2

Sorry , no , no 100 , no , 100 , I don't know . I still shop at whole . He doesn't own it . I still shop at whole foods , just like I .

Just you can't totally trust it because the amount of money out there that can buy things like you can get a box of cereal that will have the aha label on it , american heart association approved , I know for a box of cereal .

It's got 50 grams of sugar in it they're buying it was bought by keller exactly but if you follow , if you follow the food , pyramid .

Speaker 1

That's what I'm saying .

Speaker 2

There's like made it , yeah , but there's like five or six companies that own all of the food companies . It's just like you know .

Speaker 1

There's like one of them is like what's the tyson , that one of those chicken ? Right , yeah , yeah , yeah , but they literally own all of the food companies .

Speaker 2

So it's like the same five or six companies make all the food we eat . So , anyway , the reason this came up with toothpaste is toothpaste has a lot of these bad ingredients in it , just like the food , and you can't really avoid it . So , like my , toothpaste still has garbage in it .

Now , there's some better ones , but the things I would tell you if you want to go back to toothpaste is base is avoid SLS , sodium lauryl sulfate , avoid carrageenan and avoid fluoride .

Speaker 1

Okay , just get something with at least those three not in it and you'll at least be doing okay . Okay , I know I think that's crazy , though Thank God you told me that . All right ,

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awesome . I love that you're into the health stuff , because that's honestly been a huge step forward for me in my life , because , as you're getting high and running and doing the things that I was doing , what are you worried about your health If you're putting a needle in your arm ? What the fuck am I worried about ? The air quality ?

Speaker 2

You know what I'm saying , Miles ? Why am I ?

Speaker 1

worried about the air and breathing . If I'm worried about the blood that's circulating through my fucking body , yeah well , it's all connected .

Speaker 2

But if we think and breathing , if I'm , worried about the blood that's circulating through my fucking body . Yeah Well , it's all connected . But if we think about , if we want to really show up powerfully in this world , we need to be able to be vital . So if we don't have vitality , if we're not healthy- .

Speaker 1

So define your definition of vitality .

Speaker 2

My definition of vitality would be that you've got your life force , energy back , the energy you were born with when you were younger . People say kids are bouncing off the walls . No , they just have a lot of energy . I agree , because they're healthy for the most part .

I 100 agree so rediscovering the energy of your youth and then reclaiming the natural vibrancy .

Speaker 1

So that's what you meant . When I saw that clip , I was like because I was kind of confused . I was like trying to understand . So all right , that's what you mean . When you're born , you don't have any of this environmental change yet there's nothing affecting you .

Speaker 2

There's no , you're born the way the human body supposed to be . Now granted with gene . You have your genes you know , you know you got your genes , but also you know what environment's your mom . Yeah , yeah , we can get it .

Speaker 1

I know you want to get it because kevin would talk about it too his . He was born with fetal alcohol syndrome . His mom was drinking when she had him , so he was just surrounded by alcohol and he still drinks and he talks about it openly on the show . It's something that's what this show is all about too . So it's really , really all about your surroundings .

Think about it . He was surrounded by alcohol in the womb and he still surrounds himself with things and people and alcohol .

Speaker 2

Think about the beliefs that are around that as well , though . A lot of us are a product of not just the environment the physical environment but also the mental environment . Wow . So , when it comes to limiting beliefs , how many of your thoughts are actually your thought ? Seriously , Whose voice are you hearing in your head ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , or where did that originate ? Yeah , where did that really come from ?

Speaker 2

A lot of my work is mindset work and limiting beliefs work . That's a really good point . So you want to be able to shed limiting beliefs . You have to start understanding whose voice is it that you're hearing .

And limiting beliefs , you have to start understanding whose voice is it that you're hearing and is that voice really from you or is it from another place ? That's a really good point , because if you want to be able to create a reality where your dreams become real , you have to be able to believe that your dreams can become real .

So your beliefs are central to your reality . If you've got limiting beliefs that immediately tell you you're a POS because you did something , you dropped a pen on the floor , oh , you're such a POS , well , you're just immediately filtering yourself with negativity over and over and over .

Speaker 1

I do that to myself all the time .

Speaker 2

I noticed you did it . I noticed you were like I'm not that stupid , but all the universe heard was stupid . They didn't hear the first part . So if we can eliminate , we change the beliefs and we modify , and we modify the language , then we modify our reality , because the language we use is going to create the reality we live in .

So , instead of when I , when I became a father , when I told my father that I , my son , that my wife was pregnant , the first thing my father said to me was your life , as you know , it is over . It wasn't a . Congratulations what . It wasn't a .

And I'm not blaming him , I know , but I'm saying that that's a what it's , his lens that's how he fucking views it . The way he views it is wow , your life's going to be different , Different yeah , and that's how his was . And that's the way he phrases it . But we could say your life's going to be different in a much more positive way .

The way I would say it is you're about to embark on the best growth journey of your life . Yeah , like wow , your life's about to change , my friend , Because fatherhood is going to make you recognize all the strengths you have and all the weaknesses you have . And , by the way , your children are mirrors of you .

So if your kid's acting like an asshole , it means you're probably unbalanced . It means you're the asshole I agree with that all right .

Speaker 1

So when my , so when my son is off balance .

Speaker 2

I have to look at myself and say , well , what have I been doing lately ? Oh , I haven't been around , I haven't been giving him the attention he needs , or I've been putting him in front of a tv , like in the beginning , because I gotta make , I gotta make dinner and I'm burned out . I don't have the capacity to go ahead and take care of him .

So our kids are mirrors . So if your kid's an asshole , that means you have to take responsibility and accountability for going ahead and growing up . So now for Jesse and I , we're 34 years old . Well , guess what ? If we're still assholes , I fucking feel like 10 . We need to go ahead . Well , okay , that's important because a lot of us don't actually grow up .

We don't have rights of passage in this society any longer . We don't have a moment that initiates us into manhood , so we still I'm not saying you have boy energy , but a lot of us do , but a lot of a lot of us don't go through the prince to king transition , we don't become a man .

We've got a lot of grown boys out in this world right now and because they're just wounded , they hurt , they don't know how to initiate themselves . We don't have strong male role model leadership in this country . We don't have male role models that are telling us how to live and then also what we can do to go ahead and initiate ourselves .

And hey , son , you are now a man . That's an important transformation for a son to go through , and that didn't exist for me . So my own initiation never my own and I see you're emotional . Yeah , no 100 , because I think I I completely understand , and my own initiation was my parents separation and divorce .

I was a boy , my my wife didn't know she was going to be able to marry me because I was such a boy . Because , of boundary issues with my parents .

Speaker 1

I'm learning about boundaries right now .

Speaker 2

So if you can't hold boundaries and you can't make your wife feel like the most important person in your world , how's she going to be able to trust you to take care of her and your children in the future ? It's never possible Not going to happen . So for me , I had a problem with boundaries with family , and God bless my family .

They were doing nothing wrong . This was all on me .

Speaker 1

I was stuck .

Speaker 2

I was stuck as a boy . I was a mommy boy . I wanted to make sure mom was okay . But we have to go through an individuation process to become our own men . If we want to become our own men , we can't possibly do it without having the energy to be able to understand how we want to show up in the world and then ask the deeper questions of who are we ?

So you can't do any of this without vitality .

Speaker 1

So this whole thing came up with vitality yo , it's so true that yo and I I was like kind of like off with the vitality part . I completely get it now .

We get it now that's the whole , that's that's like we're coming to the end , like , and that's really just we , we hit home right there because , damn , dude , you really hit up , you , you , you definitely hit home because I , that's the thing I think right now I'm doing that transition myself and it's like really tough because , like , if you were like whoa well ,

you often like , dude , this is sick , like yeah , I did this all by myself , dude , like I don't know how to use a screwdriver well , I want you , I want you to know I did . I had a lot

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. I don't learn any fucking like , do I nail something or screw it ? Like , why does wood crack ? Like , why can't I just screw ? Why can't I just put a screw right in ? Why do I have to pre-drill something ? I had to buy my own drill . Like I was never allowed to like , like if I had a saw something or something like that .

Like that , like yo , dad , because I have to go to storage grab a saw shit . Like dad , can you just saw this for me , even if I live somewhere else , like I was living on my own , I'd come yo , dad , you will fucking cut this shit for me .

Never did anything like this by myself and like I just I really was just had to step up and like because they're getting older and they can't do the things that they used to do . And I'm seeing that now and I'm seeing , like you know , like the eye , their visions going .

You know stuff's going and they can't , they're , they can't see the little things , even in a bigger perspective .

Speaker 2

But I want you to know that you should be proud of yourself and I'm proud of you . Thank you , bro , because there's a willingness that needs to be there for you to say I believe in myself . I do so even if we've got some of these negative , limiting beliefs that are present .

Your overarching belief , that's underneath things , is I have to try , I have to do this .

Speaker 1

There's no other way .

Speaker 2

There's no other choice . You have to do this . You know that you need to do this and that's important . You have to be willing to go ahead and do that and face the fear . We talked about fear earlier . A lot of us are afraid of fear of failure , fear of rejection .

When I was going through my career transition , I was afraid of fear of failure , like what are people gonna look miles is a dentist .

Speaker 1

What's he doing ? Why is he talking about masculinity ? Why is he talking about men's work ? Because what are you fucking ?

Speaker 2

god , dude , fucking , zeus . But my point is I expose myself , criticism from others , yeah , but I realize the fear underneath that is actually me being afraid of not living my life to the fullest , that I can live it , so then it was an easy decision for me . Well I'm .

I'm more afraid of getting to the end and saying I'm filled with regret because I didn't go ahead and live my life than I am with someone else that we went to high school with , looking at me saying what the f ?

Speaker 1

that's exactly how I'm going . I was like that's how I I really was At the beginning of all this . It was like I had such a belief in like yeah , fuck it . You know what I mean ? I had no one to , no one to talk to . Like , no , no one . Really , I was out of the loop .

I was like , just like I want to be talk to someone every week and just do something . You know , and I couldn't . I was working on it . I'm still working on the ep . It's about to be , you know , mixed and mastered when it drops , and I , but I was like I want to find another way . I was like I , I could do other stuff besides music .

You know , I was like I don't want to learn new things , I want to like , but what can I do that can incorporate everything ?

Speaker 2

you know what I mean and I was like this is such a beautiful rep .

Speaker 1

You know , who showed me , bro , before any of anything was big , before any of podcasting , was Bernie Show this American life , this American life . He was like yo , you got to listen to this pod 2007 . When I was working on Wall Street , wow , he showed me this American Life and I was like get the fuck out .

And then he showed me Serial , which actually turned into an HBO .

Speaker 2

Yeah , you remember that . You know what I mean . Yeah , that was like the first major hit .

Speaker 1

Yeah that was the first major major hit . besides this American Life , that was a phenomenon man , because this American Life was actually like a radio show that like started as a podcast but they put it on the radio , okay , but yeah , serial was like intense , like you put that shit on at night and I was like , what's a podcast ?

Like what the fuck am I going to listen ? Just listen to something , and it has no video . To me , a podcast is audio . That's what a podcast is to me . It's , bernie , you know .

Podcast it's to me because , bernie , you know what I mean when you say , when you say , oh , yeah , I'm doing a podcast , that means to me , yeah , I'm shooting some , I'm shooting audio and then the video part is just separate , like , yeah , I got a youtube video up on , you know , that's it .

So bernie introduced me to all this and I was listening to this guy who was telling his story and I never people know him and he's from Jersey and Joey Diaz and he's funny as hell and he reminds me a lot of he reminded me a lot of myself and his story was very similar , but he's besides music , it was comedy and he said that he was too he .

He was funny but he too vulgar , he cursed too much , he did this too much , or you know , he , he was a certain way we showed up late or like certain things , and he had to find a different path and but he's good at telling stories .

So he said once he went on , joe rogan did the podcast , or doing podcasts like he found a different avenue and that avenue opened up stand-up comedy again for him . He was able to go back out and then he figured out what really did work for him in stand-up and I was like you know what ?

Let me figure like , take a different path and I audio still involved . You know , I've always wanted to learn how to shoot video . We're doing that and I'm literally I'm hopefully this works . Um , we'll find out . Yeah , we'll find out . Um , but yeah , like I'm , I'm just want to learn new things and that was that's . That's the whole point right now .

It's like I want to sit down next to people old and new that haven't seen him , no more and different things than me and just try to gain more knowledge and hopefully change for the better . Yeah .

Speaker 2

But when we were catching up , before we got on the pod , I told you this is actually a perfect fit for you . Thank you , based on the boy I knew when you were 7 , 8 , 9 , 10 years old , this is a perfect fit for you . So , yes , the music was your , your baby , right ? You were amazing . I remember build me up buttercup when you were in sixth grade .

You lit I'm gonna send you something listen to on the way home gymnasium on a fire . You had 500 people singing with him . I'd never been right , wasn't it ? You wasn't it . I had so many . Never been more proud of someone other than me . Thank you so much , dude . At a young age before I was like living through Jesse . It was unbelievable .

But the reason I'm bringing it up is you have the qualities . If you look at your authentic expression of self and who you were as a child , podcasting represents a lot of those qualities . It's a really natural fit for you and that's part of helping people rediscover like what are the qualities underneath the activities that you used to do as a kid ?

Like people like , well , I just played sports and I chased girls ? I'm like , yeah , but like , what sports did you play ? Oh , well , I played this . Is this all right cool ? Well , there's some teamwork aspect . Like did you play board games ? Yeah , well , okay , did you like the stories ? Like were you watching fantasy stories ? Like did you read novels ?

Speaker 1

that's such a huge aspect to like knowledge based in , while growing up and keeping that vibe , like you said , keeping that vitality too , and I think it just that , that little bit of that child , that childhood like mold , being a wizard dude , yeah , like , and all this stuff .

And so I just wanted to shout out your podcast too , because I'm , you know I need help . This is what it's for the show's . Jesse needs help , you know . So every week I'm gonna get some help . So , uh , yeah , so like , can you give us some , like , fucking tell us what this podcast about ? You know ?

Let us know , uh , it's called what's , uh , what's podcast called radical collective right , yeah , yeah , it's called how many of you ?

Speaker 2

it's five . Radical Collective right . Yeah , yeah , yeah . How many of you ? It's five of us .

Speaker 1

Five of you guys . Yeah , yeah , yeah . Oh , my God , I thought it was three because I saw three at one point , right .

Speaker 2

Yeah , we kind of alternate what podcast we're on .

Speaker 1

Okay , okay , okay , that's smart .

Speaker 2

It's basically five guys that we all have a joined mentor .

So we've all worked with her at different points in time and then , just kind of like , the universe kind of brought us together and this was about january of this year and once we came kind of came together , it was just initially a friendship and we just kind of met every sunday night and kind of talked about life .

And then eventually this june we were like , hey , you know what we need to kind of like share these conversations with people because there's a lot of power here . And then we just created a community . We created the podcast .

We've got a container with four men in it that paid a substantial amount of money , you know , to be in it , but we've got a community of 65 men and it's been a lot of fun .

Speaker 1

Wait , wait , wait , wait , wait , wait . How did we what ? Did teach you what ?

Speaker 2

he told me that a container we have a six-month container , like it's like you , you join the group there . It's for six months and we walk you through a framework and it's called our radical path framework , okay , and this framework is basically walking you through the process of revelation , responsibility , resourcing , realization , refinement and renewal .

So these are words , but basically what they mean is we're taking you down , like if revelation is , you experience the call , you have an awakening like 2020 , something like that for us . You hear the call , you answer the call , the hero's journey right , you got all these fantasy books . So revelation is the beginning of the hero's journey .

You answer the call , then you take responsibility for all the areas in your life where you've got energy leaks , where are you having addictive tendencies , where are the holes that you need to plug . So you take responsibility and we got one guy , mitch , who does all the responsibility work . And then , once your holes are plugged , you dive into resourcing .

Resourcing is all vitality . You think I know a lot about vitality . You should go talk to my man , colin . Colin is like the vitality God , so he's the resourcing guy .

Speaker 1

Oh , I need a vitality . God Am I like ? I'll get you a couple of Colin man .

Speaker 2

He's got some very affordable guides , you know , maybe a hundred bucks , something like that . So he'll change your life . So you go through responsibility , go through resourcing . Now you've brought back your life force , energy and you've plugged up these leaks . So now you have the energy to go through the realization process .

And I'm the realization guy , so I help people understand who they are , so I get them to the root of the authenticity , the values and really showing up as your full self in the world . Now that you're kind of showing up as you , then you get hit with real life . So here's real life . How do you react ? So that's refinement .

So you're constantly making refinements . That's our guy , steve . And then lastly , sam , who is out in hawaii . He's the , he's the renewal guy . We're , we're across the country . That's awesome dude . One in ohio , one in hawaii , one in puerto rico , one in florida and then me in new jersey that's awesome .

Speaker 1

How did you , how'd you guys connect ?

Speaker 2

and , like I said , we we had a joint mentor , so our mentor's name is Michelle , that's it and we'd all worked with her .

Speaker 1

So the shaman right ? No , no , oh , that's a different one .

Speaker 2

I got a great team of people who have trained me over the years . Man , wow , dude , that's amazing . I wish I like the teacher part .

Speaker 1

That's what I'm missing . It's like I'm For , like I don't know .

Speaker 2

I've been blessed with amazing mentors . That's what I'm waiting for , and one of the things that I've been very fortunate with is I actually just if I see someone I admire , I send them a message and more times than not , it's worked out for me . Sometimes people just don't even answer at all , or they're you know .

A couple of times they're maybe a little rude , like hey , that's so weird . But more times than not I'd be like hey , like I really admire what you got going on , like I'd love to talk to you , and then , more times than not , they're like very happy to share . And I found men . I got introduced to men's work that way four years ago .

So my original leader of my men's group , his name , was Dominic Cortuccio . Like that's how I met , dom . So then I got into men's work to feel your feelings , talk about your feelings , all these things .

As soon as we so that's all stuff I learned you know , how to make somebody comfortable , how to help hold an open space , allow someone to be vulnerable without judging them . That's huge . Just sharing from the heart , get them connected out of the head and get into the heart All this stuff is stuff I learned .

Speaker 1

I definitely feel that you do that Like you let you definitely let the energy , just like you're like , go ahead . It's okay , dude . Yeah , feel that , yeah it's all right .

Speaker 2

That's all you got to say . Just go ahead . Yeah , no problem . Yeah , feel that , feel that it's okay . So no one else . Like it's rare , well , because a lot of times we'll get uncomfortable seeing that you're maybe having some emotions . Yeah , you make making me feel things . Now I'm uncomfortable .

I would actually prefer you to stop crying , because now it's bringing up things in me that I don't want to confront . Yeah , that's what it

Internal Growth and External Reflection

is . So I got exposed to men's work but even my dental mentors I found all through messaging , and that was part of the catalyst of how our business tripled Our .

So all this personal growth in my life has been a result of me being in the right environment and finding the right people to learn from and also realizing that it wasn't my business that had to be focused on . It was actually me that had to be focused on .

So the more I grew , the more the business grew , instead of the more the business grew , the more I would grow .

Speaker 1

That is huge dude . I think that's the . I think that's a lot of what people have to learn . I think that's a big thing where people it's a mindset shift . Yeah , once that switch happens , I think a lot of things will change in your life . Because that's what I've . I'm trying Like the . The switch is like a dimmer for me .

Speaker 2

Right .

Speaker 1

It's not a switch , it's a dimmer and I'm like trying to push it , but it's really fucking hard . It's like just glue . Someone super glued it and I'm trying to push it up and I can't get it up .

Dude , like every day , and sometimes I'll get it Like I think I got it all like figured out and it's just that that super glue is like really , really tight and it just keeps pulling me back and I'm trying to get out and that's the fucking whole point .

So I , I it's a beautiful thing what you're doing and I think like their story in general is just awesome , like bro and like honestly , I think that kind of in high school , because we did , we grew apart , me and you like me , me in high school . Like I'm not afraid to say that like I became like like a different person in middle school .

I was like they had this like asshole phase and like I separated myself because , like I want , like I , I I put myself around the people that I shouldn't have . I surrounded myself with like two or three good people and the other people were just like fillers but bad fillers , you know .

But you put yourself around the right people , you know , and like I always admired that too , like , oh afterwards , like when I realized , like in high school and stuff like that , like I never looked down on him . I always was like , yeah , I wish I was like still talking to Miles . Like you know , I wish I was still .

He's like , damn , he looks good , you know he's fucking killing it , because I know I always I wasn't the kind of person that was like you know , like , oh , the , the , the person that's the smartest is like you don't , don't be an asshole to him , because , like they're gonna be , like there's the ones that are gonna run the companies .

Like I knew that , like I was told that I know , I knew that the people that fucking were the smart ones . I knew the people that like , like , had their shit together were to wind up having a good rest of your life , because high school is only four years . There's a lot of life left to live after that .

Speaker 2

I'll offer a mindset shift , though it's not the smart ones that are going to run the companies . It's the ones who know who they are , so we can get all the A's we want , but then you could still be a lab rat , you're not thinking for yourself .

Speaker 1

I mean a smart one and when it comes down to knowing yourself , like you said , Exactly .

Speaker 2

But with this mindset shift , a lot of us go through this process of needing to be allowing ourself , to hear ourself and think for ourself . And if we can't think for ourself , then we're gonna be running on other people's programming . That's just the nature of it .

So I just got lucky that I got exposed to some things that helped me start learning how to think for myself . But when you go through this mindset shift as well , you're now not looking externally for something that's gonna make your life better .

You're now actually going internal , and the more internal you go , then now your external world is going to reflect that . So the better you are doing internally , the better your external world is . So if you ever look around and your life is in chaos , I know , I know that I fucking know it Miles , but how ?

Speaker 1

do you get out of ?

Speaker 2

it . Unfortunately , it's a mirror for your internal world likely being in chaos , and the way out of it is to start with the self . So , and the way out of it is to start with the self .

So the more you can get connected to the self and understand who you are and start to charge yourself up and get resourced in a very vitalistic way , the more you'll bring your body back online . I had a client the other day .

He was like I feel like the light has been turned on for the first time in my life and when I spoke to him he said like you literally turned me on and he started making a joke . He was like Miles Santo coaching I'll turn you on .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , yeah , I was just talking the same thing . I was like , oh shit , it's like .

Speaker 2

but it's true , it really is . It's true , you're talking about the switch . It is , it's a light bulb . We will turn back some energy now and now you have the ability to start thinking because you shed the layers that are keeping you underneath all the smuck . You can't think when you've got all this shit all over you .

So once you shed the layers now , all of a sudden you can start having the freedom to go ahead and think well , all right , but if you're limited by your resources right and your external , your outside environment , like what do you do ? Grounding is free , looking at the sun is free , going to the beach and putting your feet in the sand is free .

You get all those negative electric ions that are going to charge up your body . There's a lot of things you can do to get connected to nature . It's totally free . So I'm not trying to sound like a hippie here .

Speaker 1

No , no , no . I'm saying , yeah , I , I'll hear about that . That's great .

Speaker 2

Because that's just going to bring your body back online , okay , but if we don't have the money to spend in terms of like and I'm talking about the environment , though , too .

Speaker 1

Yes , the environment you're in is a negative space . Yes , what happens if that's ? Because that's there's only so much we can control , right ? That's what I'm talking about .

Speaker 2

I have it can try a really really fucking hard and it's just not working . Yeah , well , there's . There's a certain level of responsibility that you can take for your in , like your environment that's in your closest proximity . And then , of course , you can't tell other people to live how you want them to live .

But if there are ways that you can start to mitigate the negative effects of how others are living and you can actually just start focusing on how you're living Now , that's going to bring back a little bit more control for you .

So , for instance , like if you're you know you want to help eliminate some blue light , but like you're at work , like you can wear your blue light blockers , or you can also . They're glasses . Really , yeah , blue light blockers , they're glasses that you wear on your face and it's going to help block the blue light .

Speaker 1

Oh shit , they probably have something for my mind that I can just put them over for my lenses . Yeah , absolutely .

Speaker 2

Yeah , so there's different companies you can . You can look into and I'll give you those . But basically the idea is that you know if you're going to be in a corporate job that you have to go do cause you're like I have to pay the bills miles .

What I'm going to tell you to do instead is start to get in line with who you really are , and there's certain things you can do immediately to go ahead and help bring yourself back online and gain some clarity .

So once we gain some clarity , then you're going to have a lot more confidence making decisions moving forward that are going to be more in line with your design . That's really the whole point .

Speaker 1

It really comes down to having the confidence , really having the confidence to hit record , having the confidence to get up and say , yeah , I'm gonna go do this , you know and being uncomfortable . You know exactly , showing up when it's uncomfortable , getting up and doing that , that uncomfortable thing . So like that , that your collective sounds fucking awesome .

How you built . That is incredible , by the way . Like god bless you . And like smart , like I mean , I've done , I did that and it's like crazy , it's so true . I've messaged big jay oakerson when , when we were here , when we , just three , four months into the podcast , he responded he's like bro , do you do skype calls ?

I don't know how to do , but I was like , yeah , I don't know how to do it , but I said yeah , and he , but like he never got back to me after that .

But the fact that he got back to me , right , like you know what I mean , he has so much going on now that I understand that he's on like seven different podcasts , like every day he's on another pocket . Well , yeah , and he's from jersey .

But , like I gave , I wrote a nice message , like you said , and like I said , I admire you , I'm from jersey , I went to prison , I have your stories like very similar to mine , I'm a musician , um , I'm new to com , like the comedy podcast world , and like I would love to , you know , sit down and talk with you and , yeah , you do skype .

I was like holy , wow , it really works . Like , so I , yeah , I , the messaging thing is is really , I think , a lot more powerful . Or like just reaching out , I think that's it , the messaging . I would say I hate the fucking messaging . Reaching out , like you know , talking to people , my mom always gets mad at me if I go out with her and we're online .

I'll talk to the people online with me all the time and she's like , why do you have to have a conversation with everybody that's around you ? Because that's what life is . Isn't that what you're supposed to do ? Like I , I thought that's how we were raised . Like I thought that's what all life is is meeting people .

No , you know , you know you have any experiences . Yeah , yeah , so I don't know . I just , uh , I think it's a beautiful thing what you guys are doing and , uh , I definitely need some help . So , anyone else that's out there , you know , reach out , my man , I'll put his uh , I'll put his uh socials on the bottom . You'll see him right now .

You'll throw him up on the page and , uh , yeah , give him a shout , give him a look . You know , take a look . Yeah , I guarantee , bro , he's already helped me . He's only been here for an hour or two hours and he's already put me through a , a crying session and a laugh session . So , miles , bro , you brought back so many memories .

Thank you for being here . You know , like , hopefully maybe I can come see what you guys are doing , do a little Skype , tell me how to do it , you know , and I can help you out with what you got going on over at your spot .

So anything you need , I'm here too , and maybe Anything you need , I'm here too , and maybe we can keep going and doing something . Figure something out .

Speaker 2

Yeah Well , deeply grateful for the time and for being able to be shared with your audience , and also for us to be able to cross paths again .

Speaker 1

Oh man , I hope we stay in touch . I'm going to stay in touch

Grounded Steps Towards Family

with you .

Speaker 2

Now I got your number so you better watch out . Yeah , absolutely .

Speaker 1

Oh , please , please , Please , it's Please , it's awesome . Hopefully one day you get to meet your beautiful wife and kids . Yeah , so , yeah , so , just you know , I would say just to everyone out there you know , put your feet on the ground .

Speaker 2

Right , that's what we're going to do , one step at a time , one step at a time .

Speaker 1

I love it . So , yeah , thanks everybody , and we'll see you next time .

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