GETTIN' SALTY EXPERIENCE PODCAST Ep.165 | FDNY ENGINE 217 LT. STAN RYBAK

You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience podcast. Hello in the chat Tonay, baby, that's what I'm gonna do. Pick somebody out because you fed me that thing that we loaded up. Bid it work today? I was? I was? But anyway, welcome back. Yeah, you're gonna play it play. No, I'm not God. You can do your things. I don't want to. Welcome back to the Getting Salty Spears podcast. It's the one that truly cross my heart. Hope to die. Stick a picky in

my eye brings the firehouse kitchen table to you. There might be other guys that say it. I'm just saying it might be, they might not be. I don't know, but there really is only one. You know. Did you ever get a callback from that? I did? We were funny, now, all right? I told the guy I loved him. Don't take it personal. You know, I'm a dick and I'm gonna say whatever I'm gonna say. So we made up. We do really like him. I do like the guy a lot. Yeah, but anyway, there is

only one. Like there's only one Elvis Presley, right, I mean, there's only one Beatles. You gotta be if you're the king, the King, right, and there's only one podcast that brings the firehouse kitchen table to you. That's what I'm gonna say about that. That's all you got. Welcome back, Roof, Thank you, buddy. You didn't kill anything, but your friend did. My friend got a nice one. I got a six point. You passed on it, six six point. What are you

gonna do with that? Bro? This point points? There was six points on the picture, all right, there was six points seven points. I don't know like Roof at this point in his career. Bro, he's like six point send you send your father backyard, Bro, go get your I always heard it work today. What now he's back on his game? Last week he was taking That's what he was, bro. But what did you see? A couple of jumbles and that was it. I couldn't concentrate,

dude, I don't know what the fun was going on. He wasn't concentrated. I had to ask for the sound effects, and then when I asked, he still wasn't doing it. I'm like, well, she was a couple of money and I couldn't get too quick enough to remember when you called him. I want to have him right there. We were beyond the next topic, he py, Yeah, exactly, So I couldn't play because you moved along too quick, So I can't. Yeah, well he's got ten

ft taller. I think I think that he was. He's not afraid because lou wasn't there. He knows Louise. He's got to slap making me laugh. Yeah, here we go. That's why he's on his game tonight. But I can't get it again. I won't. We played that quick. I heard it work today. I don't know. Well, definitely, all right, so we got our man finally standing man live a hand. Let me just say this. Me and Louis have said this in the past, so I'm gonna say it again. Well, we were in the squad working

with the has Matt. We thought we were the fucking cat's pajamas bro like right, so we would look at guys pajamas on the job. Yeah, we had five years that we look at guys like fucking hazmat what a fucking loser, while guys like Chief Fanning, who were in twenty six truck I d back, Yeah, who was in two seventeen engine, three point thirty two engine you know, made a grab and rescue too. Yeah, we thought we were it. Meanwhile, you have no idea what you're staring across,

you know, at when you walk into a place. So it's best to keep your stupid thoughts to yourself. You know what's going on? Was it? Hey, you're talking to my guy all wrong? It's wrong again? Did you imagine this guy? Bro? Like you've been to places we come in, we think, who the fuck? We look at these little snot nose green. There's no doubt we have to ask, no doubt thinking

like you little wine and bitches. There was no doubt that he had the word douche bag, like right here, you know, guy's a douche, douche guy's a Karen, Karen? Yeah, what's anyway? What's really quick? What's the mail equivalent to when you call it? Karen? It's a guy? What do they call a guy? I don't know. Does anybody know what it is? Somebody in the church probably gonna know. I'm sure

I'll give you a quick story. So I'm pulling out a fucking stopping shop the other day and some old lady, she's got to be my mother's age eighty five. She comes out, but there's a guy coming and he's probably our age, maybe a little older. Now, this motherfucker pulls right up and instead of fucking there's plenty of room to go round, of course, buck up, buck up. He gets out, screaming at the old lady. Back up. She's like, why should you go round? Back up?

He looks at me like like I'm gonna agree with him right after he's berating some old brood, So she finally backs up. I thought she was gonna kill somebody. Backing up in the middle of a park a lot. He pulls out. I pull out and like the next four lights, I'm like, so, I fucking say something to this guy. Should just mind my own fucking business. You can't, you can't, I really can't. I get to the fourth light. Now I'm not only that, I'm never

so I'm with him, bro right. They called him Kevin, whis patty nice till he said I called the guy pull up to him and I go to him. Are you happy with yourself? Now? Do you feel like a you feel better about yourself? That's my favorite life. He's like, well yeah. I pulled him back up, like you have plenty of rule to go around up and he called me something I didn't know what I had to be the maybe Kevin right, I said, well, you're a fucking

dick man cursing so much. We're on a rating some all broad. If you feel good about yourself, go ahead. It was definitely a time. Was the Italian. I couldn't tell what he was. He was mad, I can tell you that. So he must have been Italian. Must have been like lou light switch flip flew. And that was it. You come on, stop it, all right? So go ahead, guy, let's get done with the commercial. So I'm done. Told it about myself,

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not be drinking. I will not. I'll be with my wife. After my wife is coming. I think my little guys are coming to I don't know. So that's it. Let's get him in here. Rough do you think? Are you ready? Yeah? I'm ready. You ready to go. I'm ready coming to the stage. Lieutenants standing man right back, Blue? What's up, little boy? Look, you know us, way back we were thatt you could say it douchebags. Right, we came in the firehouse, you know, like our little brothers, annoying everybody in the has

meat. Yeah, we'll talk about what that. The whole dynamic was like when we came in later on. But before we do, let's get patriotic. Before I forget it. We rush on. Okay, here we go. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic, for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. A more quick thing. God's pull up that thing. What it's like at Louis House and Halloween. This came from my

boy Bill only one a gubba ghoule per child. That's not bad. I can't take credit for them. I'm all all right. Let's get into lieutenant's career. Lou take us back way back. Tell us where you grew up, what got you into the fire service? A little about the early life of Lieutenant's Dead. Right back, let's see. Grew up in East Meadow of Long Island. Uh, two brothers, two sisters, my father. What's that? Where are you? Well, I'm a twin. Actually I

didn't know that. That's twins. Things you find out on this show. And myself and Michael, my brother Michael were born, my brother Stephen, who was a county prower, county fireman. And my sister. Oh forgot my sister Carol, I said, and uh a Marie. So five of us, Yeah, not bad East Medal. My father was a bricklayer. My whole family were bricklayers or probably carpenters. You know, it's work when I did every day I was off of work bricklaying with my uncle. Is

that right? Uh? Well, even we grew up, we were to go, get to make the cement, get the bricks. You know, that's what you had to do. It's hard work, man, It's the good, honest day's work bricklayer. We learned a lot. Hey, I was able to build, you know, help build my house really so yeah, well I did all the footings. We did a bunch of extensions, some footings. You were like, what else can I do because this ain't working for me. For the next one, I figure, let me be

a fireman. You know what made you want to be a fireman? You have any friends or you know what? My father was a volunteer fireman along with my uncle probably three uncles, uh in North Belmore. One was East Meadow but close by North North Belmore. And uh but I never joined the volleys because by time college came around, I moved. We moved to Florida, Pompao Beach, Florida. Whole family, Yeah, the whole family moved. Yeah. But uh we had a nice big house in the in the

East Meadow and my father had built the day. Bro, you sent me that one, right, No you didn't. Now you're on the game, thank you. And uh you know so, Uh I really I took actually test went to college for criminal justice, and uh, I didn't even think about being a fireman. And UH did well on a couple of tests. Court offices didn't make it with the state troopers. My good friend made it with the state troopers, so he did well. But uh, court offices

came up. I didn't take it because I visited them. I just took the physical for the fire Department because my uncle, my uncle Angelo from one twenty four said you got to just take the test. You know, we got to picture him, don't we see? It's yeah here he is there. It is no a volunteer fireman North Belmore. Oh so he knows Heavy d and those guys who were who's at cat Murphy? Yeah? Sure, good friends with Dennis. Yeah so he was he was he there with Patty

Lee. Yes. I said, you got to get him on the show. Bro that on twenty four group was great, great fires And he looks like, h what's his name? Bro from U that's another Gonzo Gonzo looks like yeah, yeah yeah, now's one lesson for old time steak. Yeah maybe yeah. So you know, I I went down to Florida, figured I'd become a cop or something, but came back up and did well on the on the physical. Uh, it was a hot tant. I say that all the time. That was a real hard test. That was lucky.

I was still young, you know, working out, you know, running all the time. Just got done playing some of lacrosse down in Florida a little bit, you know. Uh, they didn't really have big leagues down there, but we had club club sports down there, you know then, right, and so we're still in shape, you know, did some running. But U now, were you still in school when you moved to Florida in high school? I started college in seventy college in Florida. I

tried Miami Dade. I didn't really like it, so I moved back up to Popito Beach and went to Broward Community College. All right, yeah, so then I then I just came back up moved in with my grandparents in East Meadow, Italian grandparents. How good was that? Right? I did my laundry, she cooked for me, grandma, and that it was great, you know, in the pasta on Sundays. I love them. Sure, that was good time. So what was that your mom's your mother's That

was my mother's side. Yeah, Agelo's actually uncle Angelo's mother and father. What was the last name, Catalano? Oh? Yeah, So you go up and stay with them. You take the FD test because Angelo I did well. I would have done better except I missed the last page on the test. I missed like three questions. Hasn't missed them altogether. He just didn't miss them all together. I didn't turn over to you, didn't turn the last page. So, but my list number was pretty good. I

think I got hearted. You know, what was it like eighteen twenty four, So I did pretty well. I magine if I got the three questions right, have been up there. But that's my I was always a like the seventies type of guy. You know, as long as I passed, that's all I cared about. Same certificate. You still get on that right exactly? You know, well in this case, Yeah, tried that on

me when he was going to Saint John's. You goes C's and D still get degrees and like not in Saint John's they don't pro so get your ass over, get your ass over the community college, bro season D still get the greed. That's what we don't. Yeah, not on my dive. They don't pro as as you're hitting them with the two by four. But you go. You gotta see the old star listening in probably school here.

Rough you're a great prob school bunch of guys. You know. January tenth, we got swim in I think on the eighth, and we reported in on the tenth. January eighty one. Wow, look at these guys. You got Beatles was in this picture the guys. You don't have to give them credit to Danny Murph. I think for the picture, Danny Murphy was in his class in the middle of the first row. I see him, Holy, look at him, he's a goliath. How about Mike Espo Mike

Guess is the second from the Yeah, I look at that right. Yes, you had Rotten Lacacus Stackpole in here too, right. Who's that Stackpole you had, yeah, Timmy Stackpole, Espositos, Jack Ome, Oh, a bunch of guys. Wow. Yeah, it was good class. You had to who's who in your class? Broke class? What is that one hundred guys? Yeah, it wasn't that many. Yeah, because there wasn't a night class. It was just a single, you know, morning class.

Maybe a hundred. Who's the Mama Luke onstage swearing in? That's uh? Is that Hines? Commissioner Hines? Oh is it? Yeah? Joe Hines? Yeah all right, yeah. Yeah. So well it was very cold over there when we were there in January and February. Boy, very cold, like zero degrees ten degrees coming over the bridge. But we got through it, through it and uh, how many weeks back? How many weeks was it back then? I think it was five six weeks, but

we also had to stay in there. At the last week, they told us we had to stay an extra week because we had to learn fire prevention and then go out and do fire prevention. So we didn't go right to the companies. Yeah, yeah, So so who would have thunk what would have happened later on in your career, right, yeah, yeah, Well it catches up to me again. You get promoted though, yeah, you get promoted. Promoted. Ry was it was frozen in February when it was

three degrees. We had a couple of those nights, you know. So you find out you go into Engine Company nine to ohero. Huh where is ninety engine? I had no idea where the Bronx was except for the Bronx Zoo, And luckily enough, it was right around the corner from the Bronx Zou. Is it the one that's right around the corner from the Yeah, the that was the at the time. It was all Italian over there and on White Plains Road and Morris Park Avenue nineteen forty one. Very it was

a slow house at the time. It was the ninth Division. The deputies were upstairs on the third floor, very big house. Yeah right, you know, bochi bowl courts around the corner. A lot of battalions over there, but we'll stick ball back in the Yeah, none of the stickballs. It was a nice show over there. Good, it was good, good being. Yeah. But when I got there, the chief said, Sam, you got to get out of here. We had who was it, Mike Meyer's dad, uh huh McLachlan, a chief McLachlan, a chief Cleary,

you know, good old chiefs. But they got me upstairs and they said, you're gonna do your time here, and uh, within a year, you're gonna get out of here. I said, Chief, I was supposed to go to two seventeen, but they said, shut up, don't tell anybody. I can't say that, And uh, what us about that story I was supposed to go to. Supposedly I had a contract with h with my uncle through Jimmy Boyle. Jimmy Boyle you know, was big then

back then. But uh, how did it work out? I guess you could say Tony var really I know, yeah he was on the show. Yeah, No, Tony's a good man to seventeen guy. He left I think sixty seven. Uh, engine at the time when I was supposed to get a sign and uh, but he didn't. Something happened with the captain. So Tony got the points. Tony went there and I did it. So they sent me to ninety engine. They said, Tony, you screwed me before I knew you. They want to drive the drive. But it

worked out pretty good. You know, I had a good time there. Let me ask you question, how do they know that you need to get out of it like you were just like I guess they knew, they knew it was slow, they knew, you know, it was a slower area. It was just yeah, but how do they know it in you? Like you're always kicking the tools always. I don't know. Maybe they I don't know, speak it out. Yeah, you know, you know the guys just the first Proby there in like nine or ten years. Really,

I was going to say it, how to be a senior house. It was the overtime was screwed, you know, what was going through the roof. So they needed to get a lot of Proby's, I think in that battalion which was about the uh they were in with sixty seven engine at the time. Watch sixty one now, But who was that battalion, Uh,

that whole battalion, nine engine, seventy three, ninety seven engine. They were all you know, niceer areas, slower a little bit, but all those places they are running now right, I know ninety forty one is uh is it supposed to be a great house, you know. As far as even work it was with thirty some years thirty forty, Yeah it was. It was a good time there. I learned a lot. Yeah, I got a I can't say I got a lot of work there, but uh, we got a couple of jobs there. We had a good fire there,

well not for a couple of guys who got hurt pretty bad. But where's the picture with the we had a picture from this guy. It should be uh a fireman Jack Kreeger Creeden. He got hurt pretty bad. We had a we run I think Krueger revenue and uh, oh that's that's you. That's the one I have from ninety in the Yeah, nice package. Then that's that's the Beatles cover. Brother man, I want another guy in front. How he got them Shuret's off totally. He jumped into them.

Bro. That's John Fantasy. Another Proby that's to the left, but he's on the bed. We made a bed, we had a roll. The guy gets in the bed and we had a race down the block. Oh my god, next to me is Mike Guardino, John Fantasy to my in front of me. That's freaking awesome. Yeah. Yeah, so that was a benefit for I forget who it was. Okay, that's what I had mark for ninety engine. Let me see if I have some Yeah, that was ninety engine and should add another one with the there's a guy laying down

taking care of by a couple of guys. Oh, you're talking about that. We had a he was laying on the ground and it was you know, take they were trying to take care of him. You think about No, that's Brooklyn, Get out of him, Brooklyn. What did you do? Did you label anything for? Yeah? I don't really get it. Come on, I'll start the story. Pete. You some of them, bitch man, like a five story tenement with retail stores on the bottom, and uh, maybe it's your little collage. Is it any collage? Yeah?

The scissor gates that were on the front of the store and they had the big showrooms on both sides of the doorway, and uh, they were forcing the door, just the gate outside and I and I remember waiting to have the line there and uh, a crack came right down the window the whole big pain you know, like the paint of glasses like ten by ten. Yeah, and uh and I think I got enough oxygen in where we

had a back drift and it blew us all like passed. There was the sidewalks like twelve feet long, twelve feet wide, and it blew us all over the cars, like way over the park cars. That ain't sorry, sorry, sorry, that's all right. Yeah, that's the only one that I have marked ninety engine. I mean I went through the black and whites that we have, so you go through your little collage of pictures. Yeah,

I didn't want to pull that up. All you guys are there, but yeah, right, maybe lose God it could hold it up to the I can't find it. You have it, Pete, I gotta find it. Give myself a slap. Will you let me dig through what I have here to see if I missed it, because we if we were, if we marked it, that's the only thing I marked a specifically night. I'll put you on the pain on my list right now. You start digging ahead.

That's my fault. Did you had a lot of World War two guys or Korean War guys there when you got there, You know what I really like, I said, I was there like almost less than a year or maybe a year, and you didn't really get to know these guys that well. Yeah, I came in, I knew somebody. You knew some of the younger guys, and they were a lot of some of the vets, you know, Vietnam guy still and but really didn't talk about it, you

know, because I was kind of separated. Actually, I wasn't allowed downstairs in the basement. They said, Stan, here's your brass, here's your polish. Yeah, take care of the equipment on the rig, and just and just look at school. Yeah, I love it. Uh yeah, that's the way it was. And you know who else was there with me? Jerry Tracy was he really Jerry Tracy was a ninety engine when I got there. Jerry, what a good man he was. But some people,

man, yeah, well I think we transferred out the next year. Within the next year, we were all gone, you know. Me from there, Jerry went to one hundred and eight into a little bit too. Yeah, definitely went away. Yeah, they pissed off that you wanted to get out of it. They kind of understood. No, I don't think so, you know, I mean it was weird. I don't remember even saying goodbye almost. You know. It's like, hey, you're on an order. You got to go to work in Brooklyn, now, okay, goodbye.

Yeah that's the way it was. You know, I talked about this the photo right here, No, that's Brooklyn. Yes, that's the only other one. All right. I might have might have messed up on that one. That's all right. This is for Ganta. My apologies. I've gone through everything you said. I saw somebody on the ground to put your paper in. You don't get in the first try, because very Alley focks

you right the second. I know he fucked you from Proby School, Proby School, going to yeah seventeen, I had wait a year, actually a year and a half. Who would you call again? Did you call Uncle Tony? Went? Well, like we made the Hey Jimmy, you know Jimmy Boyle. Yeah, what's going on? The fixer? Yeah? Well Jimmy did a lot of work for a lot of guys. You know, he was a good man. And your first order. You're over to two seventeen. Yep, over to two seventeen, and it was like another world.

That's a good bye house there, bro, they run in with some fucking well put that picture up guns, the ones with with all of the guys in there. Uh do you talk about the black and white? Yeah, okay, go ahead, stand I'm sorry, No, I mean the trucks you're running with one O two one oh wait, one eleven was in the battalion with us, Yeah, one twelve and occasionally one twenty four. You know, but look at that picture though, it's a lot of good

guy you know what I love too. There's nothing on either side of the buildings like standing there in the middle of nowhere, right, I mean just I just looked at that quick and I knew five got Eric Allen's on the bigger Crooker rule that bigger Higgins. Yeahiggins, Patty a fanus. Bobby A thanis another guy brow up that Patty Water is another guy who came to Hazball. Yeah all right, that was a good crew here, Jack Hayden.

That's Pete's brother. Eric was right next to your Patty Waters. Go up again a little yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Higgins was there, Joey Higgins. Joey Joey beg of donuts. John Clancy, Oh shit really yeah, Oh I was in right one seven that night. Yeah. For you guys that don't know, he took one step in a vacant and he fell through into the basement. Yeah. I think the taraza floor on that one's staff landing fell through. Yeah. Oh, Bobby a Fantas

too. We gotta thank Bobby a Fantas for the picture. He set this all up. Whe's cugaroo there he is in the center. Yeah, good old Mark. He's still on the job right, Yeah, he's the fourteenth division commander. Now, yeah, who was your captain there when you got there? Jerry kleinb We called him Flip. That was his nickname throughout. He always was in that area to wit lieutenant. I think in two eighteen and uh, we still see each other a lot. I still stay in

with the guys in two seventeen. Not as much as some of these guys, but uh, in the young guys every February seventeenth. Yeah, there's a party something that's great. Man. A lot of companies do that. When we've been doing that, we've been. Uh, I've been going to all the parties and go to breakfast that has Max. So that's great that you keep in touch. Man. Yeah, that's good though, But I give it. I give a lot of credit to the House to seventeen.

They're always together every uh was it nine to eleven? Memorial Day and Christmas. Certain bunch of guys would go out to all the graves, the grave sites, really put the reads down through them. Great Man to seventeen continues to get all that stuff together. You know. Uh, next to me is Richie Brady. He became a captain like two thirty six. Jerry Klein, next to Jimmy Boyle. Uh, that's up in front is Jimmy's son. And you know Charlie Powers right well, I saw him do the thing.

Charlie Powers was in he was a lieutenant one of the squads. Oh shit, yeah yeah, and Jack Hayden and behind Jackison it was one of the dispatches. Henny Dingman. He passed away, Uh recently, maybe a year or so ago. Wow, But we all went up to see Jimmy Boyle up in Syracuse. How long did it take you to catch your first job there? You remember at seventeen. I think that was my first night. I think we had two jobs, three jobs, no shit, but

I remember we went down on it was a job on Decalva Avenue. But it was weird. Two seventeen only had I think like twenty one first two boxes, and we would sometimes pass a box no ship that was not our box to get to another first two box because you had engines two thirty two, fourteen, thirty five, twenty two and to eighteen coming from different ways, and to sixteen and one. Eleven was right in the middle of those

sons of bitches. Yeap. When eleven was there were perfect spot man first seventeen for a single engine brod our work, yeah, and it was great. We did our work. We didn't do a lot of running, but uh, I bet you can catch it. Back then, we caught a job almost once a night, you know, once, very raally. You didn't have a couple of jobs with out a couple of daturs going by. Look at those buildings, cool, yeah, yeah, this is right.

This is the one where the corners fell off. Yeah, this was the one where uh Kenny Conley, I think I have This was the news Caaper's Gonzo clippings of this one you might have. We can go and scroll through because this is the the end end of the product. There, Kenny Connley, we were naturally boots right that one where got knocked out of the boot. It was a steel door that was on top of the parlor door and they forced the follow the door off. I had it actually in my hand,

and Kenny says, I got it naturally. I'm in the engine, he's got the door. He was the chauff for probably that day, so well I don't know where he was, but anyway, that's it. Oh was at it? Yeah, that's it. Uh you can see it actually the corners is coming down before it hits him. Oh wow, what a great guy. One eleven's bucket and uh yeah it was on Quincy Street, Sumner in Quincy. So the bucket, the uh, the corners came down and see how if you can see how Kenny's holding the door, the steel

door. Thank god, it just hit the steel door first. Wow. Yeah, I could see how that would happen. It would hit that because it's higher than him there and I'm I'm probably right next to him, and uh, he got hit with that. And as soon as we heard that. I turned around and Richie Brady, who was in two seventeen, actually he was, but detailed to two fourteen. We grabbed him and uh, you know, took him off the stairs. And that's us. Uh,

and that's the chauffer from two fourteen. I forget his first name. And what happened with him was he he went to the hospital and uh it was okay, he you know, got out of it. That's what that's us grabbing him and straightening him out. You know, still had his helmet on. Did you stretch the line and put the fire on after that or what the no was on the backup? Guys? Had it good for you? Yeah? But yeah, you're right there that you're there, that's me.

Uh yeah, with the bunny rabbit in my helmet. Yeah yeah, I found that bunny rabbit on Easter Sunday at a job. It was always in my helmet. Yeah, that's it. We're taking care of Kenny, and Kenny ended up being you know fine. Gods. Go back to that first picture, this one which really now the original color is coming down. Oh

okay. The article, yeah, that was the Daily News. I think you know you noticed look at the fucking Shipthold next door to it had another picture there that was what it was like back then, right, like, oh yeah, it's all vacancy. That was Quincy Street too. Yeah, look at the windows, the old glass windows, regular glass, and it looked like they just tried to set new ones in. But you know, right, yeah, I would love to go back to that time in a

busy place like that. The amount of work he caught. And just let me see that first picture that you had, the color one started yeah on this on this role. It wasn't on the role it was. But he when you when the lieutenant said he was in two seventeen, he kept showing it. He was in ninety and you said, he kept showing that pictures like oh yeah, now you can't find it. That one, that one, the one you can't win from ninety engine not only better glasses. I

give a lot of credits to these photographers. Now there was no we didn't have cell phones back then, right. They were all doing this by scanners and they were on. Yeah they were there. Man, who is this the photographer? I mean, look at those buildings, Look at all the buildings, I know, I mean, Kidney, can you imagine working at two seventeen. At that time, bro like every day you get you going to work. So yeah you, I mean, yeah you were lucky.

You were probably pissed if you didn't get a job, you know. But my first night there, I just remember who was it. Bobby Schaeffer was in one eleven Old Timer and uh one O two's aerial must have been up to a window and he, I think, runs up the aerial building. It's on fire, it's just like that, and jumps into the building and he's got his jeans on his well I call him dungarees, his boots in the old dungaree jacket and jumps into the building and I'm like, holy shit.

They do this, yeah every night, kid. That's the way Couples shot to say. It was the Duke. Is that the duke? That's Kenny Colly's the duke? Yep, you got the duke on his back. Crazy had a second section during the Warriors were seventeen. They did, Yeah they did. I didn't get there for that one, but imagine that. Imagine that how busy that they were to have the companies have three I think uh two thirty had the squad think about how crazy that is well, like

you said, they get how many first two boxes you have? I think twenty one? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got somebody all about getting it fast, bro. But uh and every time you went out, uh you were, you better be on the rig because you have to beat in two thirty engine or to fourteen. Those were, I mean, and maybe two twenty two. They were a little bit lower than us towards Broadway. You had it, you had it. You had to beat them in, you know, yep. And that's the way it was, you know.

But uh, you know, some guys were walk far from the Bronx right where oh your first dude, you and the Bronx. Oh my god, it was so far. Some of these runs were so far too ye. Yeah. But even if you beat the guy and you're like, oh no you first do go ahead, No, go ahead, guy, I don't want to say that. I'm not saying that. No go ahead, Fuck my sister, don't worry about it. He's like, good, good, good being there. You know, great company, great house, great guys.

You were therefore was ten years, right, yeah, I think about nine years. The officers were great. I think the whole time I was there, we had one captain uh, three lieutenants, and then Brian Sullivan came. When one of the guys went over with Joe Fitzgerald, it was another great lieutenant. They're all good fire offices, fantastic fire ropses. Joe Fitzgerald, though, I got to tell you, he's the type of guy.

You're you're on the ground put having nozzle, putting the fire out, and the fire goes out, and he's standing up still waiting to have a cigarette, you know, and the eyes are beat red. Never put his mask on, you know, because I was in the we were in the time where we were still trained to the old Scott mask too so, but then it's finally got to the well, you know, Scott four point fives were good, but he would never wear his mask. Some of these guys.

Chief Captain Klein would never even give a ten seventy five because he didn't want the chief sin. We could do it. We got it, guys. You know I could have used that one. Well we have that was the picture of the guy who lost his shoes, right, Oh Kenny Conley, Yeah, is that the picture we're talking about now with the with the corner So no, no, no, no, well that's a different one.

I'm sorry what you just put up. That was something else. But the picture of the guy with out of shoes, what was that one? That's Kenny Conley. That's where the corners fell down, right, So Richie Doomy could said he wanted he wanted his shoes because old timers would say, if you didn't have your shoes on your dead ah, he wanted his shoes because old time. Okay, we got a picture of that gods with him

one of his shoes, out of his shoes. There you go. I felt I felt bad because at the time, Richie's got the one leg in which Reagan his other leg. You know, Oh, guys, still me a favor. I was telling Kevin, see that the p D guy. Yes, all right, remember that face because when we go to the face on the thumbnail that I made Gary the next job, I think it's the

same. I would think. I think it is Dan because I could see his face because I put that together today when I was making the show to put and I think that's his face in the car, like right by the car window with his tie. Look at him, he's got his shoes on. Yeah. So are we talking about the gravy made R two that one, yes, okay, let's talk about that one. Then you get detailed to A two. Yeah. Well, being that rescue was didn't have there wasn't sock at the top, and uh, they were in the fire.

They went over from Calton Street and they went over to Dean Street, and uh there was the five seven Battalion, considered the five seven battalion, so when there's manning, you know, they were down, they called the five seven battalion. So they called and uh, I think on that day I had a it was the Proby. Richie Brady was the proby at the time.

They didn't send Proby's out. Well we didn't send probs out either, but they weren't going to take a probate at rescue too, so I went and uh, you know, it just turned out to be uh a nice, you know, nice day. So we got a call at uh uh was it Pacific Street and uh and actually I think rescue might have been technically second due truck because they did have their first and second do boxes. I'm

pretty sure about that. And uh, but we happened to be the first unit in we beat I think one twenty three in so but to twenty seven I think was first due and it was a I guess a four story I think it was a four story frame and fire on the probably the second or third floor, not sure about that. But so I had the can. I'm with Artie Connolly was a lieutenant, and I'm just following him. You know, I didn't even have to put a radio on because I'm in the

engine. Now, everybody in rescue gets a radio, right, I don't even have to turn the radio on. Yeah, we didn't have radios in the engine. Only do you off Sudden in the SHOWF had one. It's all right, all right, I got a radio. I put up my hood. We have a job put on the hood. And because they I don't even think they were a mandatory back then, but I had one, and so we made it up to twenty seven. Goes to the door in the back exposure three the apartment and they get the door open, fires coming

out the door. They lose water. So and I had the can there me and being that we're kind of first do truck now, Lieutenant Connley and myself we're gonna you know, find the fire, do his search and and the fire they lost water, fire starts coming out through the doorway into the hallway, and I'm going to start to hit it with the can, and all of a sudden, I hear he must have just yelled, hey, go upstairs. I turn around, like, hey, look, I can't

I'm hitting the Yeah, I got the he lost water. I'm hitting the He goes now. So I turn around and he's got an infant under his arm. Uh yeah, under a year old. So I said, all right, guys, you got the can. I think I took the hook upstairs with me and I made a search on the top floor and I found a six year old girl. You know, it was kind of tough that day because my daughter is almost the same age back then. That's all I kept on thinking about, I'm bringing the I grabbed the girl, supposed to

give her ten forty five. Never did it on the radio. I think I might have done it later on down the stairs or something, you know. But I made the search. Fire was uh was going up into the shaft. So it was pretty good, pretty charged up there, and UH just hey, did what the training did, right, do a certain picture and store that picture up and uh brought around. There was no ambulance at the time. I brought it down and the only thing there was the battalion's

car. I forget what battalion it was. Does it say on the can now four four? Maybe, I'm not sure. No, it's that's the two thirty four's oxygen. Oh okay, so uh so, uh, you know, I took it down, gave her, you know, some oxygen, and she ended up living. So it was a nice day. Wow that you ever talked to her after that when she got older? No? Never did you know it was? I always thought about that, you know, I'd really like to see who it was, you know, Yeah,

but oh, never never did So how long ago was that? What would she beat today? All right? That was she was six years old, and that was in eighty nine or eighty and maybe eighty eight or eighty nine ninety so she's thirty, she's thirty seven, thirty eight. W yeah, yeah, like yeah, right, but uh that was the mustache looks a little darker back then, kids, Sure it is, boy man, and I probably had a little bit of hair back then too. Where's the picture

of both the early picture of him and his wife? I remember that picture that look at there's the cop though, right, Yeah, it was that I think that's him, man. Me and I always wondered who was that guy? You know that looks like Elvis? I think he was a photo bombing me, I think. So he's still got his tie on. Nice bro. Yeah, But but it was funny because now you're in you're in rescue, all right, the job is over and you just get back in

the rigging right away, no popping ho right, you know. But and I was actually with that day Addie Connelly he's now passed away, and uh, Billy Lake and Kevin Dodell Oh wow, really yeah. I got the other guys though, who was with me? Yeah, that's my wife that he's part of the club too, bro that right right? Oh the younger picture too, was like look at that one. Oh yeah boutchi wow? Wow bro nice she's got that seventies flip bro yeah right, yeah for you,

it doesn't even look like me. Look at that mustard. I say that every morning I look in the mirror, like, that doesn't even look like me. Who the fuck is that guy? So? I think I was looking at the receipts, you know, when you get your gear, yeah, and you sign up all the information you're supposed to plant in for emergencies. I think I was one fifty seven when I got on the job. Wow, yeah yeah, probably yeah, close to that now. But it was the Faro force at Flip that was the did they put you in

for a metal that day? Metal fu. Yeah, we got to be both myself and Lieutenant Conley got to be b B well for personal. I was told that Lieutenant Conley didn't even like to write anything, right, So I was thankful that at least I got to be. But you know, I've seen guys go to metal day. We're not the only two people that think we're rescued in that building or yeah, wow, that's a great h that's a great think about it. We're first due truck. We're not really

you know, that's a great rap. Yeah, And they said, Stan, we got to get out of here. I think one twenty three is going to be mad, like why, you know, because maybe we beating a man or something. Yeah, yeah, hey, you know the way it was, it was you guys know what the you know and stuff. Competition. Yeah, it's competition, good friendly competition. But uh, I enjoyed working there. I worked a couple of toes and rescue as a fireman

too. One night, my brother came up from Florida, my brother Stephen at that time he was a marine and he was yeah, he was in the Marines and he was stationed in Virginia, so he was a volunteer fireman. So he comes up and again I get the detail at night to go over to rescue. And it turned out to be a very slow night, and I think at two in the morning we get a job coming in on like towards one eleven and one seventy six down that way, and this guy

lit up a tenement. And I got to thank Tommy Richardson for taking me that night and showing me how to go on to the fire escape in the back, make it up the fire escape, drop the ladder, go up the back, and it was raw and people were bailing out the windows right bailing out. It was great. And my brother Steven stayed in the front watching the whole thing. All right, again, put it out, you go back home. Nothing happens. Well, a couple hours later, the

the building went next door went up and it was the same thing. The guy lit the wrong one on fire. Oh, it was the same thing. And Stephen goes my brother's like you get this all the time. I'm like, yeah all the time. Yeah again we did. But you know he's catching these good jobs, you know. Yeah, so it worn't that good. But thank you Tommy for helping me out there. Patty Lee said something about the first time he worked in one twenty four or what happened the

first time. No, I was never in one twenty four. He mentioned something about working with well maybe the only he met one twenty four. First time I met one twenty four. Now it's a good ride from one twenty four over to two seventeen. You know, they have borderline Queen's right, yeah, over and and they want to say hello to me. My uncle probably Pete McCarthy, his brick laying partner who was also won twenty four,

and that's why I worked with on the side. But they came over and uh, Captain Walthall was the captain at the time, really big guy, you know. Uh, and uh he comes over to me, and you know, I'm five ft eight and he comes over and gives me a big kiss on the lips. Welcome son, a new home, welcome to Brooklyn, and uh it was nice. You know, it's like, oh, okay, that's Oh, that's freaking awesome. It's great. You never had a thought to go to one of the trucks. You always wanted to stay

in the engine, you know. Yeah, I just like doing the engine work, you know. Uh, I like doing the engine work. I like I was just gonna say, like I got the b over there with the with the young girl, but the unit citations. I like, because we're putting out the fire, who's the chief who says put out the goddamn fire? You know? Yeah? Who was that? You know, We've had a few guys say different things of who it was, right right? I love that, love the expression, you know, the fucking fire out.

Yeah, but you know, I really at the time never did. I mean worked in one eleven truck a lot. Yeah, you had guys like Jimmy Baseil and uh Kill Cannon and a bunch of good guys coming through a lot of good guys coming through our seventeen house because we had the art group, the art for the covering Lieutenants. We worked through our house. You know a lot of good guys. Did you ever have any of them ask you, Hey, why don't you come over to the truck? You

know? Nah? Nah, that was all. Uh, you've had Bobby Austin right done, No, because he's too busy for us. He will come on all right. Bobby Austin was like recruited from two thirty to go over to one eleven. But I never got I just never, you know, got that invitation. So Bobby Sono said, some of us just loved the engine. Hey, tell Bobby we got promoted together? That right? Yeah? And he posted a long time ago. Yeah, Pattie said,

height requirement. Yeah. Bobby posted a picture that we were at getting promoted, and we were at Randall's Island and it was like a hundred degrees and I'm the picture is of him, but I'm in the background. So at least I got a picture. I couldn't post that. I don't know where it is, so at least tell him thank you for that. I love that guy great too. Huh oh yeah yeah, yeah, good man great? Yeah. Good. If I call my dad because he reminds me of

my father, he always looks too. Here's the big question. Are you ready? Yeah, go ahead, you know it's coming, right. Why do you decide to transfer to the three thirty one? All right, I'm on vacation you know, been there for a while. I'm on vacation. I come back and we're we're doing maybe some runs I don't and maybe it just wasn't a good day for me and we and we got hit from they

started throwing battery. He's at us as we're back in the rigging, and I remember me and another fireman running up to the There was a lot and then the uh you know, a tenement and we run upstairs and like we're going to try to do something to catch these kids. And I said, uh, you know, I think I've had it. I'm done because I went to visit a couple of guys who left two seventeen to go to three

thirty one, and I just visited. I said, I'm done. I'm not going to get promoted because I was on the end of the list, right and I figured, uh, you know what, let me put a paper in and uh, regretfully, you know, it was my problem, my only regret, and not that it was a bad place, but I should definitely shouldn't have done it. And I ended up going there. Hey, we had a great, great house, some good guys, and they

were all senior guys too. A lot of the guys from Haarlem and uh, you know wherever East New York and Brooklyn, you know, and whatever. But it just wasn't my fit. And actually on the same order Richie Bevis from two thirty five engine, Uh, actually one thirty two thirty five fireman went to one thirty two. He happened to be on the same order,

but almost for the same reason. He was in a shootout. Well, him and another guy, Jimmy Sabastano who is now a lieutenant from two seventeen he's working in one thirty two or the engine was it to eighty? They were in a crossfire for shooting. No, shoot, I think screw that. I'm getting out. That's why he left, and I left because of some others, you know, stupid reason. But uh, it was great over there either though. It's not great over there either, no,

I know. But hey, you're on the water. The guys are fishing in the back. You know, it just looks over there. No, the neighborhood is not great over there. How would be mocking that sucks? Oh? Three thirty two thirty one, Oh you're talking about Yeah, ain't good over there? And the iron a storm right, Oh, so you went maybe a confused I too, you went to uh, what's seventy five? And uh, no, I never did. You said, no, I never went to se You went to on Golden How you get out?

Now? Now the light bulb goes, what the fuck are you doing? What? I was gonna probably transfer out again, and that time maybe I would go to the right that I heard I was probably gonna get promoted. Oh, I got promoted at her there, So yeah, I wanted to get I should have got promoted. Yeah, I should have got promoted out

of the place you were after almost. Yeah, a friend of mine from probably school who went from one thirty five truck and he transferred over to that on Golden Pond, and he just said, soft the sheets on the job,

bro. Really, you know what's weird. What's weird is I caught like three good fires that you know, thank you you had to worry about, and uh were almost we got a fire got pushed in on us out of private you know, we made it through the front door of a one story private delt dwelling with a basement and you know it's got the kitchen door

on this exposure to side that goes to the kitchen and the stairs. Yep, Well it's one of the truck guys opened up the door thinking it was a closet, but two thirty six engine went beat to the basement seller back door, started the line and pushed the fire up. This guy opens up the door and we got a shitload of fire on us and Rescue four was at the front door trying to find us, trying to get us. Saturday. I mean, we've had a couple of jobs. Was that restaurant on

Italian restaurant in Queens? I'm Leffrits dotey don Pep's ye think there was a fire over there. We had a job next to next in the supermarket, but we had a couple of fires there, you know, but it wasn't like even there for a short time. So really so then I you know, then I finally got promoted. That's a horse of a different color. I thought you were talking about three thirty two. I misread that. So why would you go from to seventeen to be thirty two? Yeah, but

I understand going to three thirty one. It's only one number off, that's all. Yeah. You U see John Gotti over there? Bro not maybe, but good neighborhood for that. Oh yeah, bro, yeah, they took care of those people over there. Yeah, Louis and I went to school with the Gottis. Oh really with the high school. Yeah, and uh, what's the other guy's name? Peter? And uh who was in my class? I forget his name? No, I was a Gotti Richie Richie Gotty, Richie Gotty. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They took care of the neighborhood, that's for sure. Yeah. They liked the Double Park, though. You ain't gonna tell them the movie Red Time to get our dinner and lunch Red Time. I remember that Red Time. Yeah. I love that place when I was a kid, and then I was the other the Pizza City, right, wasn't that Pizzizza City is gone? But that used to be a treat I tell my kids all the time. It used to go once every six months to Pizza City. Lenny's

Clams, right, yeah, that's right. Yeah, Russo's on the bay down the block. Ink. Yeah, I had one of my I had one of my weddings there, bro me yeah, for good about it. So all right, so you go to three thirty one, then you get promoted right August fourth of ninety one, this is where we start a Bureau fire prevention. That was a common thing, right, Yeah, it keeps coming back pretty long. We were told we were all going to get promoted.

I guess there was a lot of attrition at the time, and a lot of guys retiring getting out, a lot of bosses, right, and they made the whole list. I think they made the whole list. But you know, I did well on the first test. But the first test was thrown out because of whatever you want to call it, whatever, you know, bush marks. That was yeah, like eighty I think six or something like that. I did pretty well on that, and then, uh, you know, I figured I got to study again now, so I

didn't study as much. You know, you lose it a little bit, but hey, I still made it. And uh, you know, but now they told us we had to we'll do favors. Some guys went to Bureau of Operations, didn't even get an house. Some guys went to UH Division of Training. Some guys went to UH five Prevention. So I had to go to five Prevention. I became head of the acting like boss fire boss of Division ten at the time, I think ten or eleven whatever it was. So now I had to go every day though, four days,

four days a week to uh living was Livingston Street at the time. Yeah, Livingston Street where you had to go four days a week you had to go, Yeah, four week I had to get on the train and go to work. What yeah, you know. So and that in Manhattan. Yeah, it's better than Manhattan, I guess, right is on the Brooklyn Brooklyn Yeah, the old original headquarters. Yeah yeah, fifty Livingston Street.

Yeah, so I did that for a while. And it's funny how uh who was it Tom Greeney from one Away Truck one hundred and eighth sorry, and uh we both went to that d o. I'm end up having a little fight with the civilian fire prepensed guy allegedly, allegedly, and then he gets transferred to it. He goes to a company. You can send them out to a company and you're just still there. You should have punched somebody

in the face, bro, you know, yeah, you know. So she was just taking one of those civilian guys and punched them right the joy and you would have been a company bro. Yeah, you know. You gotta do what you gotta do, you know. So how we just spend the fire prevention I probably about a year and a half. Two four days a week for a year and a half. Yep, yeah, yikes,

yeah, and I got yeah, I did. Then I'm assigned to the five three battalion, so it was so packed still, you know, everybody who had I guess bigger hooks, got some companies, all got the cover, and so I went to the fire three. I covered a little bit over there. Who's the truck near Anton's? Remember the uh sixty Anton's the restaurant in Queens what sixty two? Who's else? Feel bull run? No, that's the other way, uh more on the north shore. But anyway,

I go to the truck over there. I'm covering one day and we're out on BI and the districts are so big for the trucks, you know, we're out on one. I guess the s end of the administrative district, and uh we get a call, so we shoot over to uh the other side of the district. I said, guys, by time we get back to the other side of the district, it's gonna be, uh, it's going to be it's gonna be ten to four. It's gonna be almost four o'clock. Go back to the firehouse. Do not punch in? All

right, don't don't punch in on the computer. And uh so now it's ten to four, phone rings house watch because they stand, Chief wants to talk to you. No way the kid someone punched in. So now because I would have been listening on the air where area. So the chief now comes and visits me, and he tells me that, yeah, you have

the guys are running this house. You're a new lieutenant. I was going to give you engine two seventy four because I was going to take two seventy four and at ten to four before a big deal about ten to four, Oh, I'm like, all right, I would have been I would have take my lump, saying I'm a new I don't know what to do. You should have put your foot up that kid's ass is what you should have done. You know, like you said, you knew, I don't know

who the guys are. You don't know. That's another thing. You don't know who the guys are, right, you know? And but uh so, uh at night I was at home, I get a phone call. They stand, you want to go to h you want to teach at the rock. I'm like not really, you know, I'm doing all this stuff. You know, what do you got? He goes, well, we're looking for guys to teach has MATT operations. I said, what's that.

That's a new class because everybody had to do it because Osha came in and said we were all weren't trained to any levels of PASMAT right, So I said, I don't know how to spell has his materials. I says, But he goes, oh, we'll teach you. They had a bunch of good guys over there teaching, you know, setting it up. And I'm thinking about this chief who just yelled at me, And I'm thinking about, you know what, my daughter is young enough, she's on the softball league.

Maybe I'll go help hang out be a coach. I says, you know what, Yeah, why not? So I took the detail and then ended up being really yeah, pretty good. Actually even better than good, because now we're able to work. You know, Paulie Talbot, Yeah sure, Seff Talba, Chief Talbot. I'm trying to get him on the show, Chief Talk. You got her. Paula's a great guy. Me and Paulie were partners and we set up our classes. Now, I don't think the older chiefs are listening anyway. So we set up our classes, said

we didn't have to be two guys doing the class. One guy come in the morning, take the afternoon or you know whatever. Yeah, and we got the job done. Well, that's what it was. We take that schedule. Man. We took care of the We took care of business. But it was hard teaching has Matt because I still had to learn it. I didn't teaching yet that time. The teaching well, Bobby Ingram was I

think just promoted for a while. So he had set up a program with George Mayer, you know chief mayor was it Battalion fifty four and four who's at fourth the eighth battalion. George was over there doing some good stuff. And they ran a class. They trained about probably about at least fifty guys. We all went up to different sites. Statt Nyland had a site Brooklyn Navy Yard, seventy three engine in the Bronx and where else maybe that was

it. And uh, and you set up different guys teaching the class. Guys would come in from Brooklyn or Queen's for the Navy Yard, and it was tough because some guys did not want to learn Hasmack or not that theyn'tven want to learn. It didn't want to be there, you know, and it was new at the time, and you know, you try to entertain some of the guys, and some of some guys were good though. Some

guys really wanted to learn. And I always felt that, hey, I'm I'm willing to learn and uh, you know, learn the stuff because you had before this, right we had was it rescue for was the only has mat right? Right? You had a lot of good guys from there learning,

you know, we're teaching and stuff. John Dorman, you know, lou A lot of guys come on the show and they do these things where somebody calls them up out of nowhere like that and says, hey, listen, you want to come do this, you want to come do that, and they're like, I don't know, but you know, it's like seems

like it's perfect timing in their career, excuse me. And then all of a sudden, you just like you just said, before you know it, it just fits and yeah, you never you know, it's not something that you're looking to do, and it before you know it. It's just it's a perfect thing for you, you know, what I mean in your career, as long as you had good guys work. And we did have a problem one of lieutenants, and I think with no stop it. I think I never heard of him. And I'm not going to name names, but

yo, one of the old bosses had an argument with the lieutenant. So they just got up and left after a bunch of yelling, and the one lieutenant that worked for with us, I'm taking marks in the journal. We had a journal, and you know that's it. You guys are having charges. So I told that guy to leave and I took care of the rest of the class for the rest of the day. Of the lieutenant he left. So I'm at uh, I'm at home again, and Chief cassa Bury

calls up. Remember the chief or do you know the name? I know the name, great chief. He ended up. You know he was who that ty bear, but a fantastic chief, a gentleman too, because I stand how you doing? The good chief, honestly tell me what happened. I told them what happened. I said, the little argument, it got a little hot, and uh, and that was it. So that lieutenant didn't teach us anymore. Two ninety You think how to come and retake the

class, you know. But other than that, it was it was pretty much okay, you know, but it was boring. Slides were there then slide slide slide, so you had really had to get into it. So I got into it, you know, and you almost didn't need the carousel of slides you know talking about And it really wasn't that bad. So I got into it. I would bring my son in once in a while, and he knew all the colors, he knew all these NFPA seven or four diamonds, you know, he knew the gases. He'd be blurting out the

answers. The guys were like, hey, kid, knock it off. You're making us look bad, you know. So that was just the basic stump. And you were looking at all they all the stuff in the guidebook, Yeah, in the guidebook, right, yeah, the OT guidebook and you know, some helpful hints. Hey, and who knows and now has matters big, right, I mean, yeah, you were on the cusp.

Yeah, so end up being good. So one night, the chief cruthers who happened to be working in the Marine division, that was like a semi semi sock at the time, right, the Marine Division was there. Oh no, Chief Cruthers said, stand one night, you're working and has Matt won tonight over time. I'm like, Chief, I've double worked there before, you know. No, you're working there tonight, Chief stand,

I says, okay, Chief, you got it. So I had mydea with me, naturally, and I go over to has Matt one and they're probably looking at me. Who's this guy walking in the door, you know, because usually had the guys who has Matt fireman? Right, we're now lieutenants and stuff like that, you know. And and I just missed Jack Fanning that he was a captain there for a while. I think Chief Gallagher went when he was a captain was there and then Jack, he was like

the godfather of sock righty's Jack good old? Look at that guys, Look at that guy's breast there. That's one of the guys that me and Louis say. This guy he's got three a's that I could see. He's got three b's that I could see. I'm like, it's incredible metal day colors, right, absolutely incredible. Yeah, he had to counterweight in the other so we wouldn't walk crooked. Jeff Bolkowski. I'll put that back. Who's the other guy on the right side of what was his name? Uh,

John Olicky in the middle Tony to Bolkowski and Kowski. Oh my god, I remember that, Yeah, chief Ingram mm hmm. I mean, uh it was. It was a good crew. So finally, uh, I worked over there the first night and has Matt. We had a couple of runs. They freedom me fine, you know, uh, And again I was just on overtime, nothing assigned and nothing. And my first night we got a bunch of runs. I know, we had to do some drum recovery stuff. We've got a good call. I think I might put it

on the paperwork for radiological really, you know. And at the FedEx plant in in uh Manhattan on thirty fourth Street, when it happened was, uh the FedEx driver is delivering a box, small box to U n Yu I think one of the hospitals, and the hospital does not accept it because they looked at the box and the box was broken, broken open, very well damaged. So uh now it's got seeds of idnee. So uh, I mean is it bad? It's it's stuff they use for putting in uh in

patients for chemo and radiological therapy for cancer. But they have to insert it and it does have I think it's got a shelf half life of sixty days. The seeds, the seed is not much bigger than a dash on the computer. Really, yeah, I think I have on the paperwork and some of the pictures I sent in. But anyway, yeah, you won't even be able to see it. Don't worry about it. It's a picture. I always thought it was like a pumpkin seed or something. No, it's

oh, it's like like a dash, you know. Rook, Thank god, you order anyway size they want. They got up. The seeds are all over the place. So now we get there and we got to go through. Now, don't forget we're the only rick. There's no more squad. There's no squads yet, there's no you know, support, you know, we're the only guys. We got the resource man who did a great job. He's got to call up. We had to call up I think

uh five or six different destinations. The seeds started in California, went to Texas, went to uh Texas, Illinois, New Jersey, and then to the FedEx and then to the hospital. Now you're getting a broken box, so they had to call up every box and see if it was how it was. So we determined that the box was damaged at the FedEx plant and it leaked seeds all over the place. Wow, so maybe from the guy kicking it down the hallway, don't Yeah. Well, so luckily the nurse

realized, hey, we're not accepting this. So we got a bunch of calls and we had a you know deputy, you know, deputy comes in battalion chief deputy and oh em Board of Health was really at the time was in charge of radiologicals and and they realized they couldn't deal with anything, so they hey, can you help us stay here? So we end up finding I think total of seventy five seeds. We found about fifty of them I think. But fine, and they're like you some tweezes. We're using the

meter. Come on the wing with tweezes. We had to take the conveyor belts apart at at the Fedecks building. So it was a good night at least it was about four hours at that at that one point, what year is this? This is like I'm trying to think when it was that was. I mean, you got the six. Wait, my first tour was ninety ninety four. All right, yeah, that was again I wasn't even detail there, so I said, hey, this ain't too bad, you

know what. Well, then, thank goodness Philly mcgondell. He rough wrote up the unit citation that we got that nice, So thank you Philly, Philly Max. Yeah, hey, Philly was the the grand pappy of that place. You know, you know, he was a good start, good man's for that place. A lot of guys were did he have a jumpsuit on? What's that? Did he have his jumpsuit on? I think he

did? You know that he never came out of him. Be true, that guy used to use that where that one piece jumpsuit all the time like that, because I don't think he could do it was hard for you to get in and out of it. Bro. He was a large manus just like that. Maybe there you go. It's like a fine on a whim. But so that was. That was the night of my first job at has matt In my first unit citation. First night, so did pretty good

one for one beautiful bat in the thousands did so? Then? Uh, I think I ended up we did pretty good well there, pretty pretty well and you didn't run the other way. Now that's what I mean, you know, for you. Yeah, hey what radio radio Lon, I'll be over here. You guys figure that I'm going home, right up? Guy get counter? Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go over there. Now you got counter. I should have said ludlum Yeah he said lod No you said

lovem Yeah, okay, yeah, he's missing. And then I go back and then uh I interviewed with John Fatta, who was at the captain at the time, again another I think three thirty two guy, John Fatta, but he said, hey, Stan, you know you we're looking for a spot. Actually they were looking for a fourth lieutenant there because that was actually on the books for New York City to have four lieutenants in that one unit. So it was on the city charter, was it, Yeah, city

charter, you couldn't take the fourth guy out. And so what I did is uh I was scheduled for days. But then if I was to cover all the vacation spots, so it was like having a big R group, you know, for the guys right for the lieutenants and offices, you'd have an our group to cover the like the twenty fifth spot right on the chart and vacations and sickly, So I got to do that and then uh,

and then finally Pete Steuby came over as the captain. Yeah. I worked there for a while with Pete and uh again another we had some knowledgeable guys come in there. You know, I had to go when I first got there, I had to go take a chemistry class at the National Fire Academy, and chemistry I didn't take that in high school. And I'm like, guys, I don't know chemistry. You gotta go. You got if you want to be in has mad, you gotta do two week class at the

National Fire Academy. I was always a day behind that when they were teaching, you know, and so h. But finally the next after the second week, I started to catch up. You know, a lot of A and E s you guys, chemistry guys, Ganza as my haman involves the thumb. If I can block a lot of a lot of that stuff.

Again, not of my league with chemistry, but I had guys like Kevin Smith, Dennis Scalzo, Tommy Gardner came in late chemistry guys, Tommy god fifty eight engine right, Yeah, I mean, if you if you had to figure out Mike Connolly, good guys. Yeah, Mikey Connolly ended up going to Squatty Team. But like Skiff, I think about Scalzo and Smith.

You know those guys when it came to at that time, right, those guys were the definitely to go to guys if some stuff going on like that, right, Yeah, you know it's like being a boss, like Stan, how'd you like it? Well? I was learning. I definitely was learning. But when you're a boss, I said, I could hold up a flash light just as well there in the fire as I can and has been. Right. Well, look guy, it's not like that,

but you know, you know what I mean. It's like, hey, when you you have guys are that good and you got to rely on them? Yeah, yeah, you gotta rely it. Well, it's just like a job, right Yeah. Big Company was it of Kevin Smiths? Yes, Kevin smith was down there too. Yeah, you know that's what I mean. You never know where the guys are, oh all the time. That's my one favorite saying. You never know who you're talking to. Who I remember? I remember Stuby, I can't picture his face. I remember.

Oh yeah, great, great, head, right, what is he doing now? That guy? I think he's still working for either con Ed, No, what con Ed he was working. It's still working in Manhattan. I'm trying to think. I think he was working for Disney for a while. Was he was something in h smart again? Another smart guy coming with his New York Times? Yeah, and uh you know, and that was it? But was a how how was it with Jack hack Tell me some stuff about I love Jack hack Man. Was that guy kookie or what?

Like? What was the story with him? You know? Yeah, but I don't really remember. I mean I was a kid. I wasn't really paying attention, you know, like that gave a great massage. Yeah, did you eat a lot of garlic? But you can count my neck though, right, Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I drinking green water. You were making vegetables. I didn't put the green water in the side.

He would drink it. Well, that was like Timmy Stackpole, Timmy Stackpole, God, God bless Timmy Reagan. It's always on that health kicker, right, yeah, until he is all that stuff blocked up his intestines. Cash get a grapefruit sized blockage in his intestines. Yeah. In two seventy four, now isn't she what's that Kevin Smith's daughters in two seventy four, right, she went from thirty nine. I think she went to two seventy four. Okay, yeah, I don't know where she was. She said

that when she was at the squad of she went to seventy four. Yeah, it's quiet. That's a nice house over there. Yeah, you do some work over there, yeah, tech it, yes, But what I like about it you had a whole street that you can park and then you get a ticket. My first, my first there is a lieutenant. I'm in one forty truck and I get a parking ticket. So what is that in the city? You know, I remember some of my first you know

what year was that because my father was over there. Oh yeah, yeah, probably ninety h He was gone an eighty right, he was eighty eight. Yeah, it probably would have been like when I was still covering some ninety three ish or something like that. Ninety two he was gone an eighty eight. Yeah. Who are the other bosses there with you at that time? Do you remember where? Yeah? It was Creasy Creasy was the boss

there at that time. Got chrissy. Yeah again, idea, do you have any old guys in the Kevin Cully plush Well basically Pete still be Kevin Cully chrishy and well am I leaving out? Come on, I can't, I can't recall. We need to go to a picture for you. No, they he ain't gonna be here. That's Bill Conway in the middle. Remember Bill Battalions. She ended up coming over after nine to eleven to run the hazmat ops. Yeah, he's the old but he didn't work at that

Neil Yank that Jack, Yeah, Bill Yank. It's funny. I followed him in three different companies to seventeen. He was the two seventeen guy. I know, he was a one thirty eight guy. Guy seventeen actually when I worked at the Delhi before I got on the job, Neil Yank Uh,

Kevin Shamberger, Yeah yeah, Kevin, Yeah, Kevin Shamberg. And the lieutenant from to seventeen, who was that now at the time, I'm trying to think of his name, would come over and stop at my deli and they'd get a button rolling a coffee and they you're gonna be on the job, kid, don't worry, you know. And then then Neil left. Then he went to what uh one eighty and missed that one, but then he went to one seventy three. I saw three thirty one and then

I end up seeing him. It has met one. Wow, Joey Ivino, Joey, I yeah, good man, Joey, Freddy Cohler, Philly mcgonald made this one. Carl Shram, Freddy Cohlin, Carl Shram, Kevin Crosby, that's uh, what's his name in the back there? Tony Carbon, Tony car Bony. Yeah, yeah, I got a couple of those, but a couple of different ones. Rodgers, and then there's the rochi of the funniest unfunny most unfunny funny man. Right, uh, Tolly Rodgers you had on right? Yeah? Doherty? What I can't hear you?

What? Yeah? You gotta get his good heart. Yeah. I saw Vinny at the Maureen Fannings Dinner dance last week. Bobby Wilson. I don't know if you guys met him. No, No, he ended up going to has met Ops for a while. Red jacket water, I'm sorry that was my little lieutenant. He's without that mustache though. Yeah, I don't remember him. Yeah, he was, you know, former Navy seal. I gotta give him his credit. Yeah, he was, he was.

He dove into that. The flight was at LaGuardia. Yeah, you had that in and uh he went into the plane under the water to get somebody out. Hey, look who's in the chat, Lieutenant. Who's that? Bobby Bobby Hunter? Bobby Hunter. Yeah, yeah, Bobby Hunter came up for one of the breakfasts. Were head one of my favorite guys, Bro, Bobby Hunter. Go back, Gonzo, go back. You mentioned Patty Waters. Yep, go back to the water picture of h I'm sorry, go ahead, No, I was gonna say while we're talking, what who

you look at one? Look for the lord with Tomaszuski. Next one. Yeah, okay, so the guy, the rather large fellow that with the glasses right there. I don't tell you quick stories. So it was a night tour. It's the morning. I'm in the bathroom shaving, and when you look out the bathroom window you can see guys coming in the morning. And Ed's got this giant fucking sheet cake that he must he must have had

for when uh it was his daughter's graduation. So what he did was he pieced it all together and brought it in his one fucking cake, right, So I go, I got him. I got him. He comes in the kitchen. I go, hey, probably you bringing breakfast. You can't bring in used cakes. That's against the rules. You can't bring you can't bring him used cakes. He goes, that's not used. I go, dude, you you pasted it all together. You watched him do it. No, but I could see it was cut and the only day was push

it together. I'm like, that's against the rules. You can't do that. He goes, no, it's not. I'm like yeah, and as I'm like, besides the point, it's bad. The cream is bad. He goes, no, it's not. He puts his face down and smelled him like, holy he fell under. He's got glasses on bro and the

cake like three years off his glass glasses. But when he first put his face out and looked like, holy ships, really happening happened this guy on this guy on the part apartment, Like, you guys, you know what Cob used to do to him all the time, I've never heard that story. He goes, He's just saying, are you Tom and Azuski and Tom, like, holy ship, the guy fell for it. My face got

the cake, bro, I'm bashing your face that guy. If that ever guy got pissed at you, coobs, he would squash you like sit on me. Oh my god. He was such a sweet He was such a sweetheart. Yeah, he was just sweet. He's such a good even even now when I somehow somewhere I ran into him. Uh maybe at one of the shows what we did, and he might be still teaching and doing stuff. I don't know what he's doing. He's always teaching. We ran it. He comes to the long Islan Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think

he works for north Shore now also, you know, always teaching. Yeah. The only other guy I got that was Belisari. He had a cheesecake in his hand and I said to him, dude, I threw my piece out. That was bid. He goes, no, it's not. Guy. I worked with Tony after we both retired. Tony and I worked for teaching. We worked for the government basically. Again, that's my second government

job. That's the other job that was or bomb. What were you doing with the guys that this was the pre positioned equipment program right by Congress. That's every little thing right there that I just said. That heard that name his name was Richie Ting. Every used to call him every little ting something something wrong. I worked with that Garrett Lingren Yeah, yeah, yeah, a bunch of bunch of guys from up there from Rescue four. Because the

job we had that was a different job working for the government. We put the tools and equipment for the next nine to eleven together and we had about ten different spots all over the country designated with two tractor trailers. You had to have has matt you have had had to have your CDLs, so we had to all go get those. But Eddie Beeban was the boss. I don't know if you know Eddie. He was from Rescue three. Eddie came over to help us work with Jack Fanning when we were at haz matt Ops.

But we all retired and Eddie Knwolly's contractors and he said, hey, we're making a unit. You want to work And that's what actually between after nine to eleven and stuff. I said, yeah, you know what, I'll take it, and then I realized the again, another five day a week job, you know, right, it's not you're not doing twenty fours. But we ended up working at Camp Smith. We had the unit up there, so now I had to travel from Long Island up to Camp Smith,

we moved up to Middletown and then we moved up to Bloomenberg. So uh yeah, there was a lot of traveling. So I ended up stopping doing that, but I worked with Tony bell Sarry teaching the radiation to remember that whatever that class was out there, if it was Nevada test site, and then you had a bunch of traveling road shows, you'd go do too.

But we worked with a lot of E. S U cops. Well they brought us in and uh one guy who headed that was an the s U guy, So he brought in his two uh fire guys and actually Mark Amerberg. You remember Mark. Yeah, that Mark was E. M. S. But he ended up being assistant commissioner at the shops, right, yeah, he Marks another guy, good guy worked with us and that stuff too. I tried to get let us in the shops so we can do a show from the shops, but I don't know. He said yes,

but it never happened. He retired recently, so yeah, yeah, yeah, so you finally get asigned the hazmat in y e. See, Now that was another one I knew Chief guancy a little bit through my uncle angel He was good friends with my uncle Angela, you know. And uh, it was always like a running thing we do. I go to golf animals with them and stuff. And I said, Chief, when am I? When are you going to assign me to has Matt? I put the paper

in like three years ago. Just don't worry about it, you'll get there. Don't worry about it. You're there, like I'm not worried about it, but just like to have it on the order. You don't want to be detailed forever, you know. And then finally he he stand it's on the order and it comes out has Mad, I said, Chief, there's no such thing as has Mad. There was there was, I don't think there was. Yeah, there was. Has Matt Operations just started, you

know, but there was has Matt one or has Matt operations? Right? What is it? And it just that's all I'm assigned to. His sounds pretty typical there, Lou, Yeah, has Mad right, Oh, there's no doubt always hanging around that. So I worked a lot back and forth between has met Ops and has met one mostly has met Ops now, ye know. And uh, but uh, you know, I felt I did a good job there, especially starting it too. Has Met was its own entity, right. We had guys like Scotty Kershoffer. When I first got

there, he was again another Halem firefighter. But I walked into the has Mat, uh when it was just has Met in two eighty eight, you know, engine, I see this guy in the back in civilian clothes and he's he's doing all the cylinders, And I said, maybe he's a civilian, because no, that's Scotty. He doesn't put his uniform on anymore. He was so eccentric, like how many birds need to die for the seven

gas, you know, for you to figure out stuff? And when the pulpe was visiting us, he just got us the I think that was the APD two thousand if you want way, yes, of course, the original one, you know, and uh like it was like this big right, Yeah, it was either a matter of a bunch of canaries, you know, and uh and bring it to the site to see if it was working. But Scotty ran that place for a while, with a lot of help from Dennis Scalzo. When he got there, you know, he had his

own lab stuff, you know, working and uh. But then uh, then it evolved has Met operations came into effect with Chief Heron and then uh so then that's when Haron grabbed me to go over to has Matt operations at the Navy yard. I really don't want to go, but I just basically ordered to go, even though I was the fourth lieutenant, you know. But all right, I'm not going to argue for a while. And then

then Chief Fanning came in. Chief Hearing I think either got promoted or went to Staten Island, and uh, and I became you know, I went over with Chief Fanning or stayed there. I said, and like Louis said, who's this guy coming in? Jack Fanning? Okay, seemed like a very very nice man. You know. Uh, he got things going. We actually hired a civilian to be the secretary, and that was Rachel. That's Rachel. So we you know, we there's Rachel. She's still there.

Everybody knows Rachel. Ye good, good girl, My wife are close. Hey, leave her alone. Looks like my daughter coming in there, you know, guy, leave her alone. But you know, so we started getting things going. We got more and more equipment, and again Eddie Beeban came in. He was actually there to him and Hugo Herald both rescue three guys and Jack knew them from Harlem and all that area and rescue and uh Jack worked in the rescues too, I'm sure I know we did.

But he brought them over and uh, Eddie got Eddie was like Klinger maybe you know in mash anything you needed, and we need to tractor trailers. He got military. No, Peter Bilt. This Peter BILTI tractor that was you know beautiful and uh that was the main trailer for FEMA for a while. And so we got yeah, well we had a paint, repaint, trailers and everything and you know, we worked over there, so it wasn't

too bad. But so but then we end up going to the Brooklyn, uh to Randall's Island and right, well, well the big thing was planning for the year two thousand, the computers, you know, and you know what happened worked out fine hat y two k right right matrix. Yeah, so we went over but we got finally got a building at Randall's Island, you know, and uh and ended up, uh, you know, working out pretty good. Hey, look, you know what I wanted to ask

you, what was it? What was the story? With the car accident again with my son. Yeah, I don't remember the whole thing. You got to bring me up to. Yeah, I'm glad you reminded me because my son was working in uh em em E M S at the I think was a battalion right there. It is Mike the five four over on Maurice. I guess the station over there two is it a two week for six thank you? The four six E M S. Right, So he was working. I think he was coming off a night tour, uh, because

it must have been at one or two in the morning. It was coming home now is uh was envoy so it was a pretty big car. And uh he ends up getting a flat. So where's his spare tire? It's at home, so he calls me, now, a dad, I need a spare tire. Well, isn't in the car now it's uh, it's a home so I'm gonna go on the highway. He well, yeah, he got the flat on the highway and it's right on the l I E. And then there's ah, it's where that divider divided the service road with

the concrete over there. Yeah, and coming I guess away from Russ Street over that way. Right, and uh, he calls me up, so I'm gonna bring him. Now the he pulls all the way, he puts his flares up. We all that's good stuff. And uh, I'm gonna bring him the spare tire and uh and actually I got my scanner on, so I'm listening to the uh you know, Queen's coming in and I hear a now overturned car on the l I E. And I'm like, ship, what happened? Well? It end up that bunch of m drunk guy

driving the car sees the flares and like morphs to the light. They head right towards his car. He jumps over the concrete barrier. Their car hits his car and flips the I think flips his his car and now it's flipped over. So now I'm like, and I passed it? Or did I pass it? I think, Uh, I'm not sure. Did I talk to you, Louis? I think, yeah, you called me first before we got the run. I think I gave right, Yeah, we gave it a verbal and we raced over there. I remember that came. It

was already. He said that they already got the call and it was already. Louis was saying it was amazing that he lived through the Oh my god. And then when he told me who he was, you know, he was sticking up. But uh when you know, we blocked the traffic because I think his car was here, the other car was over there, so it was kind of spread out. There were cars still flying through the middle of the Again, he had angels watching over him, you know. Yeah,

he's got thrown out of another car, didn't he. Yeah. Uh, he had a cheap He was going to a a call with the valleys and he got hit, you know, going to the firehouse, right call, right, He was in his cheep Wrangler. Yeah, and uh, luckily, I mean that didn't turn over. It had a really it's a big heavy cheep, you know, wide tires, everything raised. But uh, he ended up working his way out of that one. And and now he's in uh Nashville Fire Department. Oh is he? I didn't even know

that. Yeah, yeah, that's that's their battalion, Battalion eight eight. I guess that's what they call their battalion who's working out they're still recruits. I guess they're called their recruits. He did three months. MIC's in the back there. He did three months of em T training. So they're all certified EMTs and now they're they're going through the suppression part of their training. He's getting on right now. He's like, yeah, still there. They

worked their guys asses off. I give them credit. A couple more of those guys. Looks like I gotta put down the hot dogs a little bit. How many how many guys in Nashville have now? You know, but I'm not sure the amount of guys. But I'm not sure. It's got to be growing. I would imagine that. I know the place is growing. Big Mike was telling me, you turn around all the time. They're building skyscrapers. No ship, they work there, man. Yeah, so

uh there's different the times. Who work fast. I guess more work like me. I like here, you know they get their jobs. Yeah, but uh yeah, so hopefully January. I think sometime in January because graduation must be happy. Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad that's what he wanted to do, you know, because he aged out over here. Yeah you know, did you ever go down there? A lot? You go to see? I did go down there to help them move. So so he just did this or he just did they call him up. Hey, you got

to be here in three weeks. It's like, remember getting the call for the job. But now this guy's got to move from Holy Elmore to Nashville. So we got a town and not one kid. Right, he's got a little boy. Yeah, cute kid. I love that. Every time he coached the firehouse. I love that kid. Yeah. So well, really quick, tell us about what it was like when the squad first came

there. You were like these fucking douche baes. I know there was a little gonna be a little rubbing around, a little friction, but well I didn't know that, but there kind of was, right, young guys had some senior guys like Eric Allen came over, right, who else Hank did? Hang him over? Then we got a picture Hank. Yeah, gotta love Hank. Who doesn't love Hank. Yeah, that's why I said, I said, this is this is the one I gotta put up here.

Yeah. He's always there for nine to eleven, always there for the guys, you know, uh Nikki Carrado, God bless him. Yeah. Nick does a good job for at N. I remember him as a fireman, a young guy to eighty eight. That's like, that's like comparing like Mark Cocarola. You know Mark with me in two seventeen. Now he's you know, he's up there too. Yeah, yeah, uh but you know what, but hey, you guys, you had Dennis Murphy, you had Vinnie young Garo who I worked with both in you know, over Are one eleven

to fourteen. I was studying with them for a little while, you know, all good guys. So they were going to straighten you guys out. I guess they did, or did they? Yeah? They did? We well, we upset the Apple card over there a little bit because I've heard a couple of good stories and eighty eight was not really a go getting placed. And now you had a whole bunch of young guys looking to go to

fire all the time. Listen to the scanners all the time. Yeah, you know, I remember Neil Yank like again, another one of those guys who saw a lot of fire, right. I know, it was a big volley. He was kind of at the tail end of his career, you know, so he was kind of like get out of here, stop that, you know, like you know, but but I became close with him too. I remember, you all just wanted to do his his Civil War stuff him dominant Recreation doesn't. He still doesn't. He's awesome, that's

a funny Guy's a good guy. Man. Yeah, I think we can't. We can't a good crew there, you know. Yeah, and the names on that on nine eleven, you know, you just you know what, Joey Hunter, and it haunts you know, And I don't have to tell you guys, it just haunts me all the time thinking of these guys, you know, and both these companies. You know, guys, I think, what are we talking about this? Yeah? Right, original the

original drawing. Yeah, so, uh, Bobby Hunter made those stickers, I believe if I had to put on the rig, yeah, Bobby Hunter came out and came out gorgeous. But what else? I mean, all the squads have a little bit of problems, right, I mean, you know, a little friction here and there. But hey, that's I think were the only us to lose right with jobs? You know, Yeah, I think we were the only squad that was in with another company though, right, roof, I think everybody else was a single leg. Yes,

Anally, I'm sorry stand for sending Corrado, de Volio and Rofrano. There was some growing page with Hasbat. That's fine, you know, but YE had guys like you know, I Helpie who We were putting scanners in the fucking bunk room. And I think I think out of everything, like when I think about Neil and Yank he he could have strangled a Helpi at any time. You know, you know all those guys. That's another man.

I worked with Lee the Father, you know, yeah right, yeah, Rescue Too, and yeah, not much, but I knew of them, and hey, you know these guys, you know, I when I got there, looked up at these guys and Rescue Too. You know, money we just you saying all of those people that you knew. We wouldn't even know that you knew any of those guys, you know what I mean at

that time. Meanwhile, you had a career life was on at one eleven and even in two seventeen, some of the senior guys, you know, and and that whole area one twenty four, I, in fact, because I knew, you know, was with my uncle all the time. You just knew though these guys. I'd caught pool in with these guys and my cousin Joey from Too eighteen with carpool that was another good house, another sleep of house that you know, Uh, no one knew existed unless you worked

there to m keen on Hot Street. Yes, yeah, in Bushwick. You know we have a picture of somebody from two eighteen and you have that's my cousin Joe Hatzelman, right, and he passed away from nine to eleven, uh cancer. Yeah, and actually we were very close. We were like brothers and uh we did a lot of stuff, played softball together. We worked at his father's deli together for years before I got on the job. Wow, young sixty too. Yeah, you have another picture I think

of this team. No, there''s anything from two eighteen. That's it. Seventeen horrible horrible stuff. Yeah, but uh you know that good times. You've done good there, lieutenant right back. Yeah. I had a great career, you know, do I we'd all I think we'd all say we'd do it all over again, but not with the bones we have now. No. I like before on the pre show Guns, I'm like, hey, Gons, what did you do today? He's like, oh, I was, Uh we were teaching trench and everything. I was like, holy

shit, I'm like I remember teaching trench. I'm like, did they still use the webbing to uh tighten up the couplings and everything. He's like, we don't do that anymore. I'm like I used to say, get the hell out of here with this ship. You know, it's never gonna happen none of that stuff that we talk. Can you imagine climbing down to a trench. I can't get up the toilet bowl and I the only trench shop

came across. A quick story. We got to call for a Maine a gas main break in some place in Queen's and we mad, you know, met meet the chief. Hey, chief, what could we do for you? Well, there's a guy in the ditch over here? Could you talk to him? We go over there and this thing is hissing and spitting up gas under high pressure. It's Glenn Harris, right, and I'm like, I ain't telling him anything. That's the number one guy I want coming for

me. Actually, yeah, right. But the reason you've got there, I said, Chief, that's a that's up to you. You know I think that we're gonna I says, has Matt got there? We broken the teams and we went in to meet her. The houses that were might have gotten you know that. But so that was the only trench job that I ever went to you, and of course he was in there. That's class. Yeah, the guy you want right, Yeah, you know, I know Bobby Hunter is still throwing jams there. I had no problem with the

new engine. Guys, look at him, he still still has didn't They talk about engine goes? Right? Yeah? Yeah? How long did it take to change that engine to squad? Right? Timmy Gerry actually changed it squad? Did you just say squad? Yeah? His voice all right. We talked about the car accident. Got to get that done. But yeah, look at that picture. Yeah, I mean and actually I have another

picture, but I didn't. I couldn't find it. I was doing the asmat ops program and at the Navy yard and the marine lieutenant came over. I forget who that was, and took Michael when he was a little guy, took him on the boat and uh, you know, was driving by this and I got one of me and Michael with the towers. I don't know where the hell it is. We were on the front end of the

boat of the marine six rack On family. That's amazing. Even though Nicky's got a couple, eh, John, he he did some good work John. You know, I'll tell you what John worked over there. He was a quiet guy. Guys used to break his his chops. Uh. We were the two pollops you know in the in the group, Wellwski too, yeah, uh but John Uh was a good man. I said I'd take

ten John's over you guys. Yeah. And he was rich. Probably no problem telling you about how much property he owned out in the Hamptons, Hampton's upstate. Yeah, you know property in Hampton is at least a sergeant or a lieutenant on the p D. Is he still around now? He just passed away. John passed away last year, just two years ago, something like that. Actually, probably during the winter we went over some queens over On I think it was over On, you know, near the house for

his wake. Yeah, used to comfort the firehouse. Yeah. John retired a little bit, yeah early, but yeah, good man, John, Lieutenant rye back. Thanks for coming on the show. Great stories, right, I told you two hours goes like this. Look, you're right, you're right that we were not done. You don't know what time it is? Right? Time is the time? I know what time, know what time it is? I do all right, I did too it is time for the old school chip of the day, the day day. All right,

kids do it? Hey, guys, I don't have too much on the tips as far as like lat of placements, stretching hose lines. What what what I got to talk about is is the response is how you guys get ready for a response. When I used to be in Brooklyn, we had engines all the way around us and you needed very quick turnout. Nowadays, and the chaulf is you need a great chauffeur. You need a guy

who knows the area. You need to know, not only around because anybody can probably look on Google and get a map and it's pretty close to it, you know, if you're in a far district. But you got to know your building construction. I still I work once in a while. I do some pre planning for fire departments out here on the island. I do

some inspections. And building construction is changing. There's a lot more architecture work being done, newer, newer materials being used, electrical plants being put in, batteries being put in, and you really got to get out and know your buildings. I don't know what much more I could say, but just to be cognizant. Uh, you know, just learn your buildings and uh. One other thing that when I was covering a lot, I tried to

remember It's very simple. Maybe not be fire matic, but try to remember the guys you're working with, Like you get a detail, remember their names, remember their faces, who they are. Maybe they're they're in a neighboring company, company next to you. Uh, now you'll know when they work with you a couple of times in your house, you'll know who they are. That's really about it. I'm not going to tell you how to stretch a line or like I said, how many you know hose lines that drab

off the rig, what size hose you're going to be using. But you know, just I feel strongly about the building construction and types of construction you want to look into because one day you're going to be in there. You want to know what's going on right that you can't. That's about it. I'm not gonna anything else. You know, every time there was a there was a lot of building construction in the last you know, fifteen years, right, and everyone in the city right when from two thousand and eight,

right, it's crazy. If they were building it, you know, they had the metal joys, they had you know, the trust constructions, all that stuff that we never saw in the city. Yeah, if they were doing it, I have to say. That's one thing that we did was we did a lot of sids on those buildings because, like you said, ten years from now, twenty years from now, you know, you can't see what's in there. And I know on Long Island each depends upon the

township. But they're trying to put up stickers like whether it's a trust roof trust really? Oh yeah, you know, And guys, that's what I mean. Look for these signs, look for hey, doesn't have a gas mean, you know, where's the gas lines? And just get into that stuff. You know, I know it's not it's not the greatest thing is putting the fire out. You know, they're going to search up but not sexy, no, bith. The construction is going to dictate your tactics.

Man, that's it, right, you know, especially the gonzo's got an old school tip of the day. Holy shit, We've had this discussion of couple of times. Remember, get up down here you have concrete buildings, man, versus yes up there? So all right, all right, so we got a couple of the things. Thanks lou Uh, thank you guys for having me on. Yeah, hold on, we take care of all right. Matt Krushia did say Papaveros. Yes, that is the funeral home

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of firefighter Ryan McLain during a ceremony in Brooklyn. The kid's parents also gave McLean a huge hug. He had been diagnosed with a rare disease that only a bone marrow transplant could have cured. And that's entined seventy nine of thirty seven twenty seven battalions. I remember Polypatzos from two eighty eight did that then. Uh, you know, there was always a list at the medical office of the guys that did that, and uh, you know, I'm sure

there's a lot of people that are alive today. So outstanding job, brother. Yeah, and that's a very it's a very painful thing that these guys though, I hear that. Sh It's very painful, very painful. So with these guys to give as a fire fire to give in their personal life like that, kudos to the brothers man, that's fantastic. What else you got rough, that's a kid. I thought we had the fire five bills night. Go ahead, John, you're doing that all right. We have

the second firefighter that has passed from the Baltimore job. The other day, Lieutenant Ronaldo Engine Company forty six and Coup's going to give him the five bills. Rest in peace, brother h stay safe out there and roof. You don't know anything about that anymore, but we still praying for you, guys. Lieutenant right back either he likes to again. Thank you, guys, Oh, thank you, great show. Nice to your wife for making that little man k for you on the last minute. Notice too good looks bro,

She's she's a keeper. Good feel and listen, few other bests. Listen. We had one guy he got the book, one guy who had five he got five people. I guess you don't want this book for free. All you gotta do is get five people to subscribe to the YouTube and I'll put you in a little drawing and I'll pull it out. One guy, get on if you want a free copy of Chief Leaves book. It was a great show. He did you guys have a great guy excellent right

all right. On Monday, we got Pete Mslinsky, great guy from two seventy, big hockey fan. You know what I say about that right down zone, nobody cares what nobody cares about hockey one and includes everyone. Guy, Before I go I met a guy who in in where was I? Uh, he's doing some inspections. And I met a gentleman in Jericho whose son played with Greco. Is that right? Yeah, we happen to be

talking about the father watches your show. This show, I said, Oh, I'm gonna be on a Thursday night, so I did a fantastic jo. Oh by the way, Uh, Anthony just got uh he got picked up by a team. He's gonna be playing out overseas again. And uh, you guy's gonna have a little scratch. Doesn't have to sell me his roleing I fell. We'll see you on Monday. Until then, stay low and go all right, everybody will see it the big one. Thanks again, Lou, you got you guys. Thanks everyone, have a good night.