You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience podcast. I don't work, we go I waited this time. Come on, fool me once, Shame on me. Yeah, I was FOOLI one, Shame on you. Fut me twice, shame on me. Whatever. Getting Salty Experienced podcast it's the only one that brings all the stories from the kitchen table, the apparatus floor, those late nights on the rig, in the punk room, all those stories. We bring it to you, right rough, Yeah, from the base.
We definitely don't. I don't know about the basement. Sorry, anybody huh ever take a trip to the basement with anybody? Actually no, I didn't have to. I got out of a couple pretty good. You know. You know what it is if you if you present well right, you can you can back people down to you know what I mean. I have the crazy face. You know, I used to have the crazy eyes. So I think that worked for me and the and the crazy a Guinea Italian uncle
switch because it's like throwing a light switch. He's read. We finally got this guy. Huh. This guy he was he was doing the matress from when we first started. When we first started, we said, who could we get. You know, when you brought this idea to the about the show, we said, who we're going to get? Right, who'd you say, said, Hank got Murphy Kelly, you show you to say,
mister Randy watching I heard that name come up. But he always guy would never retire, No heed the service bro, you know what I mean. They had to roll him out. He just did retire right with two weeks ago something. A couple of weeks ago he said he's finally absolute, he's actually out. You mean he was at he was still chief in the volunteers
and he was still teaching out at in Suffolk. I believe. Wow, the guy who you know, we had a lot of good stories with his fellow, very funny guy, just laughing in the pre show right too. Got that head ahead and he's always similarities there. He does have a very good he does. He's got a little more soft than pepper now though. Yeah, he was a salt pepper guy. He's always salt pepper, but now he's a little more so. But he's salt. He's a salty guy.
That's what are you drinking there? Yeah, a little mother's milk drinking. I'm drinking, Uh, Jack Honey Jack Daniels, honey tonight. Oh shit. You know, Roofy had his sweet sixteen for his daughter this week, and I was it a lot of he is but it was yeah, good you would do a number two candles, you know, it was so funny. She didn't really give me anything sixteen years. You know, I kind of think she hates me to death. But yeah, but she gave
the little speech. You know, she was pulling out some stops there. I was surprised she actually was listening to me. Yeah, did you have you have to wipe a couple of while? Come on? You know me, I'm I'm a hot guy. So it wasn't itthing like give a little shout out there? Yeah, Mellie mouth, sweet sixteen, Happy birthday. That's awesome. Sweet sixteen you buddy. Mom had to be number one candle, right, she was number one. You know what the last candle was?
That was from my mom, my dad and my phone law. That was everybody was balling. Oh she was a bullet, but it was balling. Would you have a lot of eight bomb a lot of bosh. We had a little chicken franchise of cost had sugar Regonada. We had uh steak, had steak for the Irish, you know, so let's go boil some meat and some potatoes. Came a couple of taties. I'm not an animal. A couple of spaghetti. You had Penney La vodka. Come on, you take the gun out. That's what he went to the place last night.
And that night he was like this. It's like, oh we had the time. He was a plane in the background. You know, you gotta do it right, wonderful. All right, listen, I want to get this guy in. He is. We've got a lot of stories to go over the bro so get get to the commercials quickly. So we all right, here we go. Then let's let's listen to our friends. If fromm we're tough. Armor Tough interlocking floor tiles are the best choice to replace
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before cleaning the tools. The sooner remove contamination from firefighter is the lower the exposure. Tools and equipment will never get cancer. But firefighters can so get in there, rinch the ball bag up, clean the shit off, and then go clean the tools. All right, We are grace to see him, and we haven't seen him in a while. This guy coming in hot, Mike coming in hot? What's going on going on? Mike? Gentlemen? All right? Is that all we got and we have ours. Lets
you get skipped that one tonight. Okay, let's skip it on. Just tell them how to get into the stupid chat. They want to get the questions. You know what I mean. Yes, tonight is gonna be a great knife of the super Chat. Everybody again, if you want to support the show, hit us up in the super chat. If you have a question with mister for mister kellyton I, please do so in a super chat. That is the best way to get him answered. Get that, Bro, I'll let you bring him in. Get the man, do it all
right? Uh, coming to the stage. This is Uh Kevin and I's uh one of our favorite lieutenants that we had the opportunity to work with and the privilege to work with, Lieutenant Tim Kelly, who looks great. Definitely more so definite. We finally got him, Bro. I had so many unanswed texts, Bro, and then finally he reappeared out of nowhere. I don't know what happened. Well, I was texting him. I had the wrong number. That's why I wasn't answering. Maybe really liked me. Maybe
we left that plot out, were sending the texting their own number. But as a guest, like from random, all right, before we go to further you know, we got to be patriotic before we get lost in the weeds over here. Yeah, we was almost were doing so okay, stand by, here we go. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic, for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Well, wonderful,
what's the and we would be remissed? What is the word of the day? You're ready? Yeah, give it a face? What it is? New? Wait, you didn't do them, mister sadafest guy. All right, don't let I saw your finger this. I thought we were gonna didn't want to hit that one right out of the box. That that story real quick because it was me. I remember telling that story so many times because it was I. It was I contact from Yeah, it was like it
was stories, like a couple of stories higher. So the story I believe, he don't think so, but should be good. When when Lieutenant Kelly transferred to rescue far he was in the squat a couple of years and then yeah, so when we were like the strut when he left, right, but we understood he was going to Big Blue. He was a rescue guy. We understood it. But he didn't realize that we had Jerry Murphy,
which was Hankstrom right. So of course getting out to Long Island, any job going towards uh east end, the Queens most of the time rescue far and us we would converge on. They would take Queens Boulevard to the Lae or the Grand Sexual and we would jump right on the Lae because we were right there. And the l A, even back then was just packed all the time. Right. So we were getting on the highway and there's a couple of spots on the highway where you can get off on the service road.
You can come up right, there's three lane, six lanes. It's like this, right. So they came around from Queens Boulevard and they were going up the ramp to get onto the Lye and Murf saw that it was packed. I don't know, you know, I mean he was always packed. But he did some concoction maneuver and he came down low Wood and jump around. Come up. Now we're on the service road and there's never any traffic really over there, but the l Ie is up high like it's up
like right now. I remember, so, um, I got my arm. I'm behind Murf and we're going out east and I look up on the l I E. I see lights, I look up and he looks down at me, and it was just kind of pretty, you know. Soon after he retired pretty close and he looked at me and he was just like, you know, like from Seinfeld. He was like you. And then we kept calling him that for a while because I mean we were always trying to beat them in. They were always trying to beat us in. It
was you know where yeah, hello, thank you. Oh yeah, that was I remember I was talking about that, like when he looked down at me and he was just because listen, in the end, if there's work to be done, whoever gets there first generally will get the more of cherrav you know. So we renamed Jerry not Hagstrom's. We called them Magellan because damn city anywhere anywhere incredible. Jerry know, I got it all right, yes, and he did. Yeah, he would. We would never waste
any time like other chauffeurs. We'd look at the map right see which way we were gonna go, or they would get started and then we would have the maps in the back. It would be like he missed the first two job, like right down the block. For me, that time is out the window. It's out the window over here. Why do you go? What other light? God? Bless him? I love that guy. But yeah, we're gonna have a lot of quick stories tonight. Yeah, let's
get out to Lieutenant Kelly's career. Where is my hold on him? Minute? Hold on him? Oh my god, that's a funny, my fair short already on my face? All right, here we go, all right, t K. So before we get started, we want to know what made you get into the FIST service? Any family on any and that's a great story. I could I could eat up an hour on that one. All right. So out on the Suffolk County where I grew up, I had my really my best friend out here. Um, his dad was a
chauffeur and rescue four. So he says to me, and we're fifteen years old, do you want to coin and ride with my dad? And I had no idea what that meant, so I was like, yeah, sure. So we went in and did a night tour and rescue four and it was incredible. We went to multiple fires. There were jump as people threw a mattress out and the guy threw his whole family out and jumped. It was like Holy crap. I mean, I'm fifteen years old. It was just like insane. And then I go back home and I'm like, they
pay guys to do this. This is the best show on earth. So I kind of made it my mission to get on the job and I was looking all over the place. And then once I was on the job, I always had it that I wanted to go to Rescue four in some capacity, and I did it. And the lieutenant that was working that night we had had to jump as John Dillon. Oh my god. I called him up when I was one of the first night to us there and I just said, hey, John, and do you know who this is? And
he goes, I know who it is. He had an incredible dungaree jacket that had um adult beverages that were always available. And I said, I tossed the office. I can't find it. Where is it in my trunk? And you can't have it. But it was really quite an honor for me to make it all the way back. And uh so you weren't even a volley at this time. I was a pre volley fireman. And then I was like, you know this, this guy was a friend of mine. And then I did go into the volleys and uh before he got on
the job. Yes, and you have to hide it, you know. And I did have a party at my house and I invited all the guys from thirty eight truck there and lo and behold that silly radio went off when they were all there, and they looked at me ner a volley and I kept it from him for years. So they were just like, that makes perfect sense now, you know, So that that the lieutenant, that that's the duke, right, that is the duke, right. So I have I have posted so many pictures of him. Guys have sent me. His
helmet was like this little roofing shingle. That what I used to see his helmet on it. I mean, he had no visors, right, it was just like this little coops. It's like a yamica, right, you know. It was incredible, the box on a camp fire on the head. It was like and every picture he's like talking to the chief and you know the chief is just listen like I hate hate that helmet. Right.
Yeah, oh well he was thinking that. But now is that the duke that they talk about in Brooklyn, Because they talk about a guy to duke in Brooklyn. That was different. That's different. That's a guy from one eleven Ironx guy as a fire and you know, um, well it had to be doing the seventies a Bronx guy because he was when you went there, it was probably like so this would have been the seventies as a lieutenant and four wow maybe yeah, you know he's in uh saw him, you
know it just recently. So there was definitely was an incredible uh to go complete circle to circle. Now I'm in my late late the forties getting back to rescue four and and just you know a lot of folks didn't even realize that. You know, I always had that on my radar. I didn't know that story. Yeah, I would have felt so bad. You guys are so destruct you threw my stuff out the window. I help him, I help you probably did. Did the Duke's son get on the job,
I don't. I don't know. Well, no, it's one son is a Suffolk police officer and um yeah, because I went to his wake and all, and uh, you know he came around in nine to eleven. He was he was in credible uh uh calming force with us, you know, and he's still alive. No, he passed. He passed. Yeah, but uh, yeah, I don't know where the hell that Dan Helmett is and the dungaree jacket they I think they went with him, you know, so I'd have to get the jacket back. Do you have any other
family on the job. I don't know. No, you me. You know, my middle son is um he's on the job in Greenwich. Um so, um yeah, it's it's pretty wild. He loves it a lot. And uh, you know, I brought both my sons in to ride and rescue four and and Milner could back this up. On his last day tour, they uh on the job. He went out. We convinced Mike to go out front to take a picture and my boys bucketed him. And
he didn't think it was that funny. But oh, you know, you know, my sons were probably thirteen and maybe fifteen then, or maybe a little younger. But what's going on now? The you don't like it got him good too. It was really the perm back then. Probably he didn't want to hear him, I said, probably could have broke his knees, you know that. But yeah, you took the test that uh that got held up with the women, right in the seventy something tests. That was
a difficult test. Yeah, it was really wacky. Yeah, yeah, physical was even more. That's what the mile run, the mail sack, up the stairs, the ledge walk, the eight foot wall was really a man. They got to bring that sucker back. That eliminated a lot of phonies. Yeah, imagine jumping over that now, Yeah, yes, I could, Actually I could imagine it. I won't be able to do it, but I would. Oh my goodness, you're keeping yourself in shape these
days. I'm you know, I got hooked on the peloton thing and uh you know good yeah, so um, well, you know, I mean, it's all good until it's not good. You know, he's got the rescue Force fan dex with the leg worms, the blue leg womans, right slash dance you all right, let's drow a picture of his probably class because he was in there with a famous guy. Here we go, they're all famous. Who was in there besides you? That? I see you there, he's in the middle, in the lower middle. And then the guy
who's at the bottom with his thumb up in the air. That guy I never seen him before. That's the bush. We can get him on. Tell the story about what you said, and uh yeah, so we uh, you know, we're sitting there just trying to get to know each other. This was my squad and it's I don't know whether it's graduation or whatever the hell's going on. But um, early on in probi school, Steve confides in us and says, I don't even want to be a fireman.
I just need a paycheck. I want to be an actor. And like, you know, when all of a sudden, like the pancakes stop in mid air and they're just like, what did you just say? You got tell another soul? They're gonna they'll drown you. What do you mean? So um, but it turns out we got another photograph of we're utilizing him as a battering ram on the door, you know, and it's very funny. We're just picking him up. So um, he didn't change much,
you know. He's a great guy then, and uh, you know ten years fifty five, right, yes, yes he did, he did ten years or whatever he did, so it was terrible. He stayed ten years and he still comes. Yeah, it's a good guy. Absolutely. The job grew on him. Why not, right? How could it not? Who else was in that picture anybody. Yeah, Dennis Devlin's in there. Um you know there's uh billy album. You know there's uh you know some
of these guys. It's funny how you just keep crossing. So the other guy, uh, John Roy, the older guy with the mustache in the middle. I think he had like four kids. Oh he went up. I got held up because I wasn't even twenty one yet, so I would have had to wait for this class anyway. And a matter of fact, out of the hundred, I think sixty of us just turned twenty one. Oh you know, they tried to do to the real march with us. I think the guy swallowed his tongue at probi school and almost died. None
of us were in the military. Uh, we didn't even know what dress right dress it was. They gave up. They just so it was during the winter. I shoveled more snow with those banjo's. Uh that that's all they did. Last I didn't shovel, you know. So it was John He went up to the green Berets right in the barn. Team didn't roll go up to the bronx when yes it did. Yeah, a lot of us were. It was. It was la, you know, in our class. So we just kind of went where over time was running. So
they just kind of broke us up. But uh yeah, we were in this tiny, tiny locker room and it was really quite funny, you know, us one hundred guys and it was probably a twenty by twenty space. I think the Custodian uses it in Building nine. It was they were really it was quite unique. But uh, like I said, we were still wearing the yellow slickers, um, you know, the raincoats and the Civil Defense yellow helmets. Oh my god. It was just I think they lent
us old boots. That was the only thing we had that looked like fireman. Wow. So did you get did you have a hook? How did you How did everything work? I thought I had a hook. I was supposed to go to Queens a family friend, and uh, all of a sudden it comes up eighty eight and I'm like, where the hell is eighty eight? You know, I was a Long Island boy, and so they're just like, oh, you're gonna love this place, you know, and I'm like wow. And then of course you go there and the museum it's
it's it's incredible. It's on the National Archive of Historical The Yeah, cool, walk in there. It's a museum. I worked there two times. You walk into you don't want to touch anything. You wipe your feet before you come in. It's incredible. I've heard you talk about it in the past. It's like picture here, you know as the Bronx brickyards Um. You know, it was all these vacant buildings. It was. It's a great company. And when you look at a map at the Bronx, it's
almost dead center. So I don't know, they had some hooks in the communications office. We were like on it. We used to have that old loose leaf book on multiple alarms and you could tell when they transmitted if there was anything that was a third alarm, and the Bronx just about we were on it. I don't know who we paid off, but it was great.
As as a young farmer an engine we were going to everything. You know, what was it like looking at those buildings coming from Long Islands, Like when you first went into that area where you just like, yeah, it was just it was blocks of them. This is probably down by forty five Engine and ben Eyes and just by the Cross Bronx and then they would burn and then you know, all the stairs were all m they already gutted them for whatever, scraped the holes in the floor. It was just like
incredible. And then they would take the fire escapes out just to reduce the number of people. And then you'd be in there and folks would be like, I'm in here, I'm back. You're like these things they were never unoccupied, you know, there was always uh, you know, taking out the cinder block. Um. Just the Bronx training towers, you know, as they were just a great opportunity to go to a lot of a lot
of fires and uh, really get good engine work. I mean the Clorox bucket with a rope, and it was an invaluable tool of going up to an upper floor and dropping that sucker out and getting a line up stairs really fast. You know it was it worked when the stairs are all burnt out pretty much. And then whoever got up there first, you know, it's like you gotta be you gotta be agile, you know. And uh, and then the four point fives were just coming out, um so wearing a
mask. They were like it was funny. There was a lieutenant's test coming up. We were always being asked you know, what did they go over, what did they emphasize what? You know, the the mask policy was coming out and h it was the backstep was wasn't taboo just yet? And uh um we were still doing in the chain when I got there. But they would lie about how many runs you had. Allegedly we wouldn't have to interchange, right. They asked how many jobs you went to? The bosses
would say two. Meanwhile they were at four of them with us. You know what it was like? So your first job team, Um, I do actually and uh it was pretty funny because it was on the north side of the Cross Bronx Expressway and I was a volley so um it was a vacant row of stores. We were second to engine, second alarm on arrival, and they told me to jump up on the deck gun because it was that volume of fire and the particular chauffeur, Um, he was priming the
pump. He couldn't get water. And I'm up there roasting away and I could see the cover, the hostbed covers starting to stretch and melt. I'm melting up there, and I could see the lenses on the lights are starting to get a little uh weepy, and they're like, hold on, we got to move the rig. So all I kept saying to myself, so this is how the big boys doing. They melt the sheepishly, climbed down and just say, uh, what else can we do? And they like
just just help stretch the line, you know. But I do remember that with so it's with great humility, you say, Oh, even the big guys make mistakes, you know, your first shot. Um. I stayed there three years and I had an opportunity to go to the truck. Anytime it was a detail, I would go to the truck and I just loved it. Um. I mean just working in the truck is just opportunity to
just do everything, every position, every building. It just um you know, with all books and what to do on what type building, it's just it doesn't get boring. Uh, And I just enjoyed. We were a rear mount company in thirty eight, and um, you know it was great.
A lot of times they'd transmitted greater alarm because it was going badly and they'd be calling tower ladders and uh they'd be like thirty eight, you guys could take up because it was gonna be an all nighter you know, so it was kind of like did we do something wrong and they're like, nah, we don't need you. So it was how was the response area compared to the engine, Like you run into a lot a lot more engines, right than that than with the truck aut on runs without the engine the truck.
Yeah, it's funny. We did have different boxes and stuff. Um, you know where the truck would go. M but the engines was pretty good, you know, the eighteenth Italian and then they brought forty eight and fifty six in with us, so um, you know, if we went to the West, we ran in with seventy five and thirty three and forty eight and they when they moved six truck up. Um. But it was yeah, it was great. You know, a lot of row frames as
we nicknamed them row f aimes. I just loved those suckers top floor fires type. I nicknamed them sneak of fires because you were just running around with you know, get the line over here, get the line. You know. We would bring two hooks because the trucks would just you know, they were stretched to the limit of just trying to pull ceilings and uh so you just did a truck work as an engine man, and it was it was
great. They are that's that's their first do you know. It's so we were on a between one hundred and eighty three hundred and eighty fourth see great shopping. You know that's the best. You have. You got the work and you have you know the food. Yes, yeah, and oh it was just yeah, it was. It was fantastic, you know in all the holidays there, it's just uh, yeah, it was good. It
was good. You know, Italian neighborhood. And I looked like I had some Italian blood in me and you know to be like, you look like a nice boy. What's your name? When I said I'm going to ruin your day? Timothy you're talking about. Yeah, it was a great, great, great hub to be first dude at the zoo and uh you know Fordam University was right there, so it was it was very pretty diverse neighborhood of buildings. I mean we had everything, you know, probably the only
thing we didn't have was subways, but everything was elevating. Yeah. Who was some of the guys you remember that stick out to you that well in the engine, Um, you know, tough Timmy. Yeah, I saw that pop up, and uh, it was so funny. He would he busted my horns. You know. He kept asking me, um, well, he asked me once, get me the probably, get me the serial number off the tires. So I'm like, serial number, What the hell they got serial numbers? Yeah, I need the serial numbers. So I'm
crawling under the rig. So I wrote them down because I figured that not going to change him very often. So about four or five months later, it must have been his only you know thing that he had all the time. He says, give me the serial numbers off the tie. So I went to my locker and I got the numbers and he said, you got him that fast. I said, I wrote him down the first time. You think he didn't like that answer? Did you say? Knew me?
Damn it. So we were going on a family vacation, my wife and I and she brought in cookies and uh, she gave something tough, timmy, And if I would have known that, I would have had her come the first day to work with me, because then after that I couldn't do any wrong with him. So he wasn't that tough, you know, Coe, It was. It was pretty funny. He was in the engine. Yeah he was the engine boss, you know, I mean it was it was probably in his if he's still on the hockey team, you know.
Wow. I mean he got a fistfight at a job once. I think he was acting battalion and uh nice and you know the deputy comes in and they're like, do you want to uh you know, bring him up on charges and he goes no. The guy shows great spirit. He appreciated getting punched in the face. I guess nothing. He definitely did not. Uh he earned it and uh you know he was He was a tough old Irish boss who was like who was the captain in the truck at that time?
You remember, Um, there was several that came through. Um, Joe Morevic was when I went across the floor and um, then we had a few others. Tom Cherry was there. Um, you know, great great role models. Um. One of the lieutenants in UH eighty eight was Kevin Burns. Uh. You know it's like when you get promoted or even you're your whole stick as a fireman, you just kind of you steal from, you know, some other guy's acts and you're like, I like what he
does. I like you know Kevin was. If he knew Tough Timmy was coming in, he'd come downstairs. He'd take his shirt off and he says, come on, come on, let's let's get a card game going. Let's let's get this going. And he'd like shuffle papers all over the desk like he didn't do anything all day, and we'd make it look like we're playing cards all day, just to I go, this is a lieutenant busting and Captain Horn make this up. But uh, you know great boss Kevin
Burns was. That was Frank Montagnier. He was the chief at the Rock and uh so you know he was a lieutenant there. He came out of the Upper east Side thirteen truck. Uh so you know he went on to bigger and better things. But you know a lot of a lot of good guys running in with twenty seven truck um fifty eight. I know you had McCluskey on some episodes ago, and that's a big dude. Oh man, he is. He is. You know, the guy eats glass for you know, because nothing else. It's a sad hog, right, wasn't he
s? Yeah? And Devil was yeah whole you know they forty five and fifty eight. They had a few of them, so yeah, it was sure being twenty one years old I work with. I mean, Leo Faccassi was a World War Two vet. U was in then U on the UH Patton. He was served in North Africa and liberating Italy. Uh um. You know, Marino was a career war vet. One guy was you know, World War two Iwajima uh several Vietnam vets and they took great liberties. A bust of my horns, like what did you do? And I said,
well, well, you guys were all doing that. I was learning how to ride a bicycle. Thank you for your service. You know, it was nothing going on. I was a you know, it was a punk, you know. And what we say all the time, those guys, Coop says it all the time, like those guys. When you work with those guys, If those guys were in those situations, there ain't nothing
that they're going to see here, and it's really gonna make them. You know, you just learned to be calm, right, You learned to be to handle that, you know, or any situation that's coming at you. You learn to handle it because you're dealing with those types of guys all the time. Yeah. I mean this one guy in the truck, Jimmy Marino, I happen to look down at is the year he got assigned to thirty eight and it was the year I was born. And his uniform had absolutely
nothing on it. And I'm like, jim every Christmas I can remember, you've been bringing you're sorry butt into this firehouse and he goes, you're a punk, Kelly. But the guy was great. He was always the irons man. He was the great guy to learn under, you know, and they all were. They really really set the pace for you know, how you behave and uh. But I just always admired the fact that, you
know, you'd make a grab and just no big deal. Yah, and uh he didn't need to write up, he didn't need anything, and he'd just be like just quietly go about his job. So I like that act. And uh, I just try to emulate a lot of those guys. Well you will live, you will live in a life there twenty one years old and a busy company. It was great, it really was. I had I had a grand time. I really did. I h that's a great house to go to right out of this Yes, and how did I
get it? I think tough Timmy just you know, he went that you picked three of us. One guy was a contract U me and another guy would just probably. I think we were next to each other under the order. We know how you got it. I should have sent my wife, like I said, your time. Speaking of your wife, how long were you there before? You were you with her? When? Yep? And then I got so I got married. Uh went across the floor and uh in the same month, and uh, you know it was so nice.
They detailed me back to the engine for thirty days because I had a red shield working in eighty eight, so no way. Yeah, so it was but it was all good. Um married forty years this year, so oh yeah, I'd say it worked out. I'd say, so agree. Any any particular job that stand out to you while you were in in the truck, Um, not really up there, you know. Um, you know there was jobs, but I mean, you know thirty eight was, um
the Happy Land Social Club. I wasn't working, but um, I know the importance of BI because that was in a BI district and uh the captain m was Walter Brett and uh it was interesting. They weren't even back from the job yet and two guys came in and suits and pulled the folder before you know, the relocates are in there. And they went up to the office and helped themselves to the bi folder. And thankfully we had well died
or he had well documented attempts to get in there. So that was h he did an outstanding job of you know, doing the right thing by the fire department and the city. You know that we were so they then created that task for us after that, the social club task for us, and uh so uh but no, it was just um, we were very very familiar with the place and and just those type things. And Paul Sman had the pipe at that job, right he did, Yeah what was he working?
Have been? Right? Yeah, they would literally almost could see it. So it's right on Southern Boulevard. You know, we were second d there. But I just you know, the the the incredible number of people killed was just um seven right, the seven people perish, right, Yeah, yes, so it was um, you know, it's it's all uh you know, you you're going along having a great time and then you you you know, just seeing the impact that had on the guys that worked it.
I was kind of glad I wasn't there, you know, because uh, you know it was like one of these things, well who's got that many body bags? And they're like the port authority does so uh Unfortunately we became skilled in large body counts and they were like, oh so uh it was an incredible an eventment that it wasn't working, but um, going through it and just seeing it, I was kind of kind of glad I wasn't You guys probably went back there and looked at the building every day, right,
We absolutely did. And you know, you know, it's actually kind of good therapy for the folks that were there, the firefighters, you know, for us and the guys, and then getting them to retell his story to us and and just you know, you're just silent and it it actually is is probably good for them that they they just kind of describe what they what they went through, y rothe who do We just had somebody on that we were talking about how great the job is and the last and everything,
but the job I could turn on a dime and be serious as a heart attack in a second and humble you in the second. Who who is that that we had on that was saying that I mean a lot of people say that. I mean, everybody knows that, right, but somebody just you know, they brow up a good point and I forget what it was, but they were saying the same exact thing. I can't remember of it was very recently, though. I do remember that you have a lot of fun
in the firehouse, but you can humble you on. I wasn't that was the old school tip. Wasn't that the old school tip? Remember, you ought to make it one Hell, here we go. What's that? Uh? Somebody asked the question and that let me go back over it. Oh yeah, here we go. Oh there it is. I'm sorry it takes twenty years to ask what was killed in Brothers in Battle? Were you in Brothers in Battle? Um? It was going on while I was up there.
So Brian Hickey um was filming, you know, in while he was in thirty eight and then ask you for so um, like when you guys were asking do you have any pictures? Uh, that's one of the things like if somebody broke out a camera, I went the other way, you know. So Uh, it was funny when you see things like that going on. So I was, I was, you know, making faces in the background to the guys they were filming and stuff and uh, but I
remember when that came out. I was in Probi school ninety three when that came out. I could not get enough of that film. You ain't heavy. He's incredible. I mean it's it really is uh, I mean just the information he gave out too, like in each borrow Right, I was school. They showed that in prob school. I remember, right, it's it's really is timeless. It's it's so well done and uh, you know it's I never even realized it was him, like until many years later,
many of the years later. Yeah, getting back to it quick, he's in that. There's a lot of good ones in there coming with all the as remember he was in he got the huge bona for that one. That one. There's a question I've been meaning to ask you, So, at what point do you decide to go to the rescue at number two? The follow up question is, if you wanted to do the rescue four thing, why did you go to Rescue one as a fineman and not for h good question. Um, yeah, it's a good question. So you know,
going to Rescue one is just an incredible company. Um, you know my wise crack answer. When you go there and you talk to folks from other rescues, you go there's other rescues, so UM, to me, there's only the one. UM, you know working in Manhattan is I'm so glad? So why didn't I go to like even why did you go to three? Why didn't you go here? Um? I just want to go to a place that was so different from what I was doing, and Midtown Manhattan
was completely different, and UM, I'm just glad I went there. Fantastic company, great reputation, really got um you know, I had eleven years on the job. It just at that point I was I was comfortable in the truck and then I'm like, all right, what more can I do? And when you get you're going into sock and you got thirty people of like minded uh that just want to do more. It just makes it a great job where everybody is just trying what more can I do for my company?
You know? What more can I do for the new guy? What more can I? And um, just being the best of your game at all times. So I really got it in one and yeah, good god. Yeah. So the giant Ray Philips from Rescue three, you know. So so that's why Angeline he's climbing up on the bumper because he was who's the other guy, who's the blodhead guy? Uh Neil Frederickson. So uh he he was in my proby class as well, different squad, but he just retired not too long ago. So um, moha right father Baldwin,
you know he's yeah. So what was the what was the process like getting who was the captain? It was impossible, um, you know because the captain he didn't care for Bronx firefighters at all. Who who was the captain? Then? Briano Flaherty So um it was you know, many cheesecakes and you know, bakery products and so he had been a did the captain's rep to the union and I knew he'd be taking a leave of the company. So I said, cap, I've been buttering you up for two years.
You got to bring me over, you know. So it was his he uh he brought me over and left, you know, and they're like great, so uh but you know what you miss it? You should have brought your wife's cookies. Well come out to the garage bar. Well, well I was, uh, you remember when you first met Hankel. Yeah, it was in one, you know, and uh yeah it was it was good. Iran was there, Kevin Shay. So I went like two weeks after Kevin's uh you know, the rope rescue and uh so the media frenzy
was you know, incredible. Um, which was even better because then I'd see them show up and I'd go back in the kitchen, you know, and go do something. You know. But uh, you know, it's it's quite a place that how many visitors you get, and if you're not into that entertaining them, being respectful of them, you know, just showing them the rig and and just it's it's almost NonStop. You know. I can only imagine after nine to eleven with those guys were probably just they should
have just moved to a different address. We've moved. Oh my god. Yeah, it was Look at what it was like for I mean where we were, it was crazy. So can't imagine, like you said, I can't imagine what it was like over it was. Oh I worked at quite a few times and it was back and in. It was just like people waiting outside all the time to Yeah, we would fake runs if we saw like too many buffs out yeah, take a picture of radios and like what's going on? Like, I just you know, you know I always see
those things on social media. Yeah, I went to New York. I knocked on the door. I mean you know they they were coming. Yeah, yeah, dude, yea to go there and have that happened. You know, this isn't a T shirt store, right, I mean this is a freaking firehouse, you know what I mean. So I get it both ways, but you know, yeah, I gotta say, though, a couple of times that did work in rescue one. Like, like you said, though, there was something. It's just like a feeling like you're driving
through Times Square in the back of rescue ones. It's like there's nothing else comparable. There's nothing like it. Right, You're photographed a million times and this was before cell phones. Now yeah, right, could you imagine now? Just you know, it's it's uh, it's really pretty funny, you know when you when you get down to it, you know, what where are you on the wall? Well, I don't know what do you think? You know? Which ropes? I'm the guy with the one wheel wheelbarrel
of garden cart, you know, because I used to do carpentry. Every night, I'd have to take all my tools out of my car, and then I had a garden cart. And so they being from the Bronx, they thought it was great at they took the wheels off and left it on cinder blocks, you know, nscue, Big City Rescue. And then now you have to go, you know, after a night tour, I have to go find the wheels. Who was the captain? They came in after
flower? Oh wow, you got a picture of it, you know, Well there I am you want and this one because that does a couple of them. I try to figure out. I think I see the wheel barrel on the on the babe and the lion king the rear the rig, right, yeah, I'm looking at you. Yeah, cleaning the windows or something so bad? Right, he's on the Yeah. Yeah, they should actually make up a thing with uh you know who it is? And why why
did depict it like that? You know it's Hank was always clean and he had to wear the shot in time, right, yeah, Hazel, Yeah, Hank was definitely a clean, a clean person. You know, you need one of those guys in the fire god. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm glad to see that. Still still kicking that's the other one. Yeah, so that would be me with the it looks like the other wheel. You know, you were the rope guy. I would have thought you would have been on the nah, not then, But then I I learned,
uh, and that was a great opportunity to Uh. You guys got by roco, right, we did, we did, and then um, I guess you know, it's one of these things keV when you they put it on the rig and as they used to call them, our funny colored ropes. They had some other expressions for him. But you know, we were the first company with it. And then when you really get down to it, um, you know, like a scaffling incident, was was a
big deal. Now it's it's it's routine. You know, it's really you know, you guys uh know the way of the rope and uh and it's um really it's no big deal at all. And once you know the technique and then you welcome it. But there was a lot of opportunities to uh
to use it, so I went toward them. So I wanted to know it really well and then share that at the rock, you know, and that's uh, what was it like trying to convince the chiefs to put put your guys up on rope and uh you know, yeah, they would rather um like a scaffling into They're like, yeah, we'll take the window. And I used to say, chief, your pension is secure. You're okay, we know what we're doing. You guys remember the first time you actually
used it at a I remember me personally. We had a m a woman conn ed was um working on a manhole and you know how they always put the um metal uh three sided area around it. Well, she walked right into the manhole and uh you know, she's down about fifteen feet and there I am, were setting up a tripod and she's hurt and um. I could remember my hand shaking so much that the pulley, the double pulley was rattling hard. And another guy and I said, just a real guy,
and you can actually hear the plates, you know. So I said, you gotta get you gotta get your confidence up, you know so, oh doubt man when you're the guy, right, yeah, the guy you know when you guys who to laugh about it here, I'm like, when you haven't take it gets a lot of covering bosses and they'd be like, guys, I don't know anything about that, so you know they would defer too. And then if you were the rope guy, even the senior guys would
be like, he's got it, you know. And uh then before you know, it kind of became uh with our riding positions, you know, who would do rigging, who would be entry, you know, so it, um, it became ingrained into our assignment. If an event we got a high angle job, you you were taught in what year? How long
did it take to get rescue one? You know, wound up? And and and and I went there in ninety one, it probably was you know, we we went online pretty quick with it, and um, you know, Chief Downey was in sock and then you know, some other chiefs that were there, and they quickly realized, you know, this was all born
out of that the water tunnel uh incident up in the Bronx. The young guys were in there, and you know, they had the old roguelist systems and uh they realized we didn't have capability beyond a couple hundred feet and so were they all realized this is something that all the rescues needed to get. So then it was get them back train the other rescues and then I saw it as an opportunity and uh I asked to go work for them. Um and you know, they just wanted that New York the swagger and the stories
to go with it. But you're really good at it, you know. So yeah, so UM I liked it. It was it was a great opportunity to uh, you know where you could create monsters like you guys, you know where you would train by Rocco and then did did you guys? Did Rocco train the other rescues or they they each one had like five six guys from each of the rescues. They did like a two week class at the Rock and then we were there also is like um basically train the trainers
where we were learning to um be instructors. Yeah. And and once you know, we were pretty very confident with it. And then you know, Kevin Shay worked for him, Eddie Morrow uh and myself worked for uh Rocco and we basically uh um, you know, we just gave it to all of us sock and then the squads. It was a great opportunity to say, listen, well we're all going on right. That's what it became in house yea, yep, R. How did you do with the scuba great? I loved it. I loved it. Um, you know, it's
it's funny. So that was the other thing is they wanted you to be open water prior to going to rescue, and I kind of refused. I said, listen, I'm I'm not going to take a class. I'm doing this for you. So um, eventually I did take it because you needed something to uh knock out your competition. But uh, you know, you dive a few times and you know, we you guys trained as tenders and
or if you're not divers, and uh, it was always funny. You could whenever the diver found the victim, you could hear them scream, you know, and you're like, they got him, you know. And if you were listening to right, yeah, yeah, scary coming upon right in the water. Screw that we went out in Flight eight hundred to help support that out there. Um, you know I was not the uh the strongest
uh diver. Um. Actually I was parting it. It's funny. You brought his picture off, Neil Franklancing and he was the better diving than I was. So we were partting it up and I would basically be the the drop. I think I only dove once on that and Neil was so I would be tethering him at you know, at that depth. And we didn't get to do a lot, but we were you know, f D and Y was out there on the cane um, you know, just trying to
help out with that. I mean, if you think about rescue one, all of the rescues that they've done in the river, it's it's crazy, man, between Harsh and even just the ones that they did the helicopter just recently, even though that the people you know were I mean, just to even get in there and do what those guys did is it's incredible. Man. Yes, it's you know, it's um, yes, there's there's no
doubt. And and to be able to turn out and and put that on oh going, Um, I don't even know what the hell those guys did all twenty four right guys think, oh yeah, it's just you know, think about if you were just sitting home, you know, doing calisthenics and and you had to go run and do that. But you know, go go home and uh, you know run just you could have just had a fire, you know what I mean, and now two minutes later you got to be in this you know, twenty feet ten feet down under a dock,
which you know, shopping carts and you know, fishing everywhere. Oh my God, get the hell out of here. God bless you guys. Yeah. It was. It was unique. It definitely, you know. And then um, I remember once I went as diver one and off the west side and uh, one of my fins came off, and the boss like, you know, I radioed coms. I said, you know, I lost the fin. He's like, good, keep going. You know. It was Tony Erico. He was like, you know, and I'm
like, well, I only have one. So I was like, you know what, I just I let the air out of my BC as much and I basically clawed myself along the bottom and figured, all right, I'll just use my arms. He didn't want to hear, We'll get you another one, you know, because they're like, you know, es us here and they're gonna put a diver in. They're like, I'm not coming up unless I get this guy. You know. He probably said, yeah, um, well he was at the rock then, but yeah, I didn't
get to work with him. Um. A couple of tours here and there. But you know he was a great guy man, great guy, great stories. He is so exciting. He came on. He was just his son. Yeah. Yeah, that was the other one. Yeah there when you were there. Um so in my time there, we went through six captains, so it was Kyle and you know, in seven years. So it was definitely a great example of what a good company is because we didn't need the captains. We were you know, we're all just kind of going
along. But it always coused. You know, the senior guys would be like you could doing this or that, and uh, you know, I was rather young, and I enjoyed, uh, rubbing somebody the wrong way as a as a side hobby, you know, and uh nice you can see you can get him and you're like, oh boy, this is great, you know. But uh yeah, so we had um uh um, Charlie Caspell was there. He was the captain. A rescue him. Yeah
I didn't know that. Yeah yeah. So um when the first Trade Center bombing, um, he was the captain and Kevin was in the hospital and uh it's funny he comes up to the firehouse, Um, you know to pick us up. You know, we're back in quarters and he says, we're gonna go see Kevin, and uh and it's funny like it I felt like it was, you know, national vacation, National Lampoon's vacation. He had like a station wag and I'm like, people still have station wagon,
Reagan, Queen Family, Chuckster, the family. So he we have paneling on it drives to the corner, hits the brakes and he's like, go ahead and get two six packs because like, all right, this is we're definitely gonna do destressing, you know, on the way to downtown Beachman, you know, and uh, you know he wanted to hear I didn't know he was a captain. Yeah. Yeah, so it was and it was great because we you know, we that's all we wanted to make sure that
Kevin was gonna be okay. You know. We uh, they whisked him away from us, and you know, I'm like, he fell really far. Yeah yeah yeah. When he when he was on the show, when he told us about that, I could not believe how far, how far that was. Man, It's easily sixty to seventy feet, you know, incredible. Yeah, I mean he broke everything, you know, I mean and the guidal story like him going there and getting him as even uh you
know that's even more crazy too. That's crazy stuff. So yeah, yes, and and you know we it looked like a giant barbecue pit, you know, and it was just uh but yeah, it was really uh quite a day, you know, Casper. So what did you start studying? Let's get to that when before he start How long were you there before you
felt like you were comfortable with what was on that week? I would say probably about eighteen months before you get that swagger, you know, where you could just you know, you get a covering boss and he might be not even a sock guy, and they just kind of look at you like, uh if we get this, and you're like, don't worry, boss, we got to gotch and you know where you're just you're not that I've seen
everything and done been there, but you know you've got brownstones. Um, you know subsellers, uh, those sub sellers, which like, what the hell you know? Did you like subsellers? I have. I had a few experiences, none of them none of them good. No, I know, Yeah, guys make fun of me that I don't like subsellers. Meanwhile, ye when he hears subs he hears this. Yeah, so that's when very lonely down there. It's very lonely. It's only you. Most of
the time, it's you and you, you three. He's rattling again. Other than crackling, mister wizard. Tim doesn't want to do this anymore. I was studying while I was in the bronx Um and you know, it was it was really funny like when you you're in a company like this and we were still doing the the boxes, the you know, the two and two on a pull boxes, and it I just was, I guess a little bit might say we respond on at least forty to forty five boxes before
we have to get off the rig. You know. It was just maddening the number of false alarms, and um, I just felt like I can't keep doing this. You know, this is this is not what I see as you know, uh, serving people, and this is just you know, they're playing with us. So I got my interest in going. And of course that they find out, you know, they throw your stuff out the window. You know, it's uh um. But so then I got to rescue one and I said, well, I'm not leaving here, so
I stopped studying, so I really, uh was. I was quite happy there, um, just because the number of just the the action and the variety of stuff and um, you know, working with folks and they're coming and going, and it was really uh. So I ended up at the bottom of the list, and uh, you know, was fortunate I got promoted. And after I got promoted in November, it was seventeen years to the day that I got appointed. And they were like, where the hell
have you been? I said, in the kitchen, you know, it was too much fun, and so I was kind of old for my lieutenants class and you know, uh. And then it was March. I was back in sock and guys were like, you just relieve me. How the hell do you get back? Tell us a little how that went about how didn't go with some folks. You know, how the hell do you get a spot? You know? So uh um yeah. So I was at the Rock doing um rope training because I did not enjoy covering um because every
night this size and you up, where do you work this thing? So I used to come up with a line forty third Street and only guys went to the job nude it with two companies on forty third Street. They just wanted an answer so that you'd hear the guys go, oh, this guy's from midtown. We're on our own tonight, you know, we're on our own. We'll see what happened with the two fires. Its whole life.
Yeah. So uh but with that, um, then this squad concept came up and squad tryouts happened, um and uh so I was one of the monitors during it, and uh, you know I was. I was like, oh boy, this is great. So it was funny. I didn't put in for it. And it was George Crucier that said to me, your name's not on the list. I said, Lou, I just got promoted a couple of months ago. He goes, You're exactly what they're looking
for, you know, with that, and I did. And so fortunately, um, Dennis had recognized me so from some rope training that we had done. And uh so you guys didn't really know each other like from outside of that other than through Rocco and um, you know, because we didn't
really bounce around that much. And when Dennis was in two and you know, they wasn't like it is today with sock um where we're kind of our own battalion right right, right, So you know I was I was really thankful that that I got drafted, you know, and then just being a new boss and a new unit. Um, I know it it Payne's Rescue Forward it, but I truly it was probably my best time on the job.
Those that time I did with Squad. It was really just really really um rewarding just you know, taking a twenty four guys you know at the and making in the unit under Dennis's leadership, and and it really really was. And and just the fact that everything was an uphill battle. You know, all our neighbors hated us, and that was like it was thirty six right everybody. You know, it was you know, all a cat calling
on the radio and you know, silliness. But I kind of like that, uh being that adversary like that and just say, yeah, show and we did, you did? And uh no, I say all the time
on the show. It's you know, your whole career is special, right, but there's times that are really and in each place You've been to quite a few places that are really incredible places, but there's even in those places, there's time slots that are just really when you look back at your career, like they were like the sweet spots, you know what I mean. And for me, you know, obviously those first two years were great,
and then after nine to eleven everything changed, right. It was the same thing in two ninety, you know, it was great in one h three, and then Richie Pastor Scofani died and it changed, right. So it's it was exactly that I felt that, you know, that squad was twenty five new guys, right, we had all new bosses. You know, you were a certain way, and Garat was a certain way, lou By was a certain way, and of course Cat Murphy was a certain way.
And you know, we were half the guys who were under five years I think probably, yeah, And you know we were and and you had Hank and Ronnie and Jerry Murph and Bill Hill and a couple of guys there that were senior guys that really I think it was perfect time. You know,
I really were aggressive and we enjoyed this. Yeah, what do you think about that many young guys that when you were all concerned that there was a lot of young guys, no, because um you had mentioned it in one of the podcasts I looked at. I just tried to do a little research, but um, you know, we kind of set up scenarios on squad tryouts, UM where they weren't. Um, we weren't looking at technique. We were looking at hot and you know, we we saw guys that would
go beyond. Like when we gave you a two and a half and we said, you know you by yourself, take it down the hallway, keep the nozzle open, keep operating, dragging the line by yourself. Um, you have to make to the end. You know. The guys that did that, we were like, yeah, that guy. You know. Meanwhile, we're playing at the rock and you were like that, that showed a lot of tenacity. And when you come out, like you said, they're not taking a knee. They kept their coat buckled and they were like what
else you got? You know, we're like this one. So all the captains were there, so you know, we were the guys setting up the scenarios, doing a reset, next group of guys and just going about it. And uh, you know it really for the folks that showed up, it was quite a quite a talent pool to a mask that that group and
then you know, start the training. I mean, I love when a few times we'd go out after midnight to go look at commercial buildings, going a roof down and look, you know down a mask but and has Matt making Coca Cola. I don't know they would be looking themselves up to an ad that we're going out. Oh my god, you remember that has Matt dilemma, too tired to eat? You know, Coops just so he knew in there. Oh so I was in Captain Murph's and Garrows groups. Who
whose groups were you? And Kevin? So I had quick is my chauffeur? Oh my god, yeah quick here story Um? I had um Sweeney ielpi um. We got that picture that guys we're in the trouble groups. They were always right. One of the squad pictures. I have this one. No, no no, and in front of the rig. No, not that one. We have this one. No, that's one. It's a job picture. And I have a bunch of them. So I'm going through no problem we have we have this is coops. So we're at the
rock. That's that's when we Oh that's uh, that's lou Bye. That was when we first became the squad. Squad with oh this guy this is the job. Yeah, so I yelp, he's on the left. Yep, Lieutenant Kelly Quick. That's Paul Baldwin, he transferred over from Rescue one.
Uh and that's Brian Fahey. And that's so I was looking at this picture, you know, like, and there's a lot of those pictures that I see, and you know, you say to yourself when you took this picture, if somebody said to you, you know whatever, five ten years from now, only two of you guys are going to be around. Like it's just these crazy things that I think about when I look at some of my pictures that yeah, you know, you're a I mean, but I
don't know where this job was. But that's the old Max. So that was early on, yes, and you know I have you know, the stories were quick and uh so I should I should tell that story real fast. So Billy Quick was the showffer. So I guess I was working. I was probably working a mutual or something. And uh, I always told
this, Lieutenant Kelly. All the time, I was sitting in the kitchen with my back to the front of the firehouse that we had big windows in the front on the second floor and I was reading the paper and I was having a couple of call. I was by myself, and Lieutenant Kelly comes in. He gets a cup of coffee and he comes and he leans against the table. He didn't sit down, but he leans against the table, but he's looking out in front of the firehouse and uh. And he's taking
like a sip of coffee. And I'm I'm looking. I'm looking at the paper on the table. You know, we're bullshitting a little bit, I would imagine, And he says to me, he goes, oh, there goes my chauffeur. And I look over at him, like, and he's sipping his coffee looking out the front of the firehouse. And I turn around and I look out the front of the firehouse window like you know, I'm
looking like this, and I see Billy Quick in his car. He had a blue like yeah, it was like a land cruiser, you know, like one of a kind, one of a kind, and he's driving down the service road. But he's yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's working. So I'm like, and Lieutenant Kelly he's like this, He's like like this, and he just walks out of the fire out of the kitchen and he walks in the back, and I remember saying to myself, like, I mean, think about how that's after all the stories I have, that
sticks out to me because I jumped up, I ran downstairs. I'm like, well, FP is quick, you know, so we get on. He took a radio with them, so we get him on the radio citywide. Yeah. Right, he went down like two blocks or three blocks to the auto pots or whatever the heck he was. He came back right away. I'm like, dude, what the hell are you doing, Lieutenant Kelly? He never. I mean, it still sticks to me, Like you
said, you think about how you are there, right. I try to figure myself like not getting too as a boss, like two upset over things like I know some bosses that would have been like what the hell's going on? Like he would have ran downstairs, you know, you went back in the office, right. I mean, I think to myself like that sticks out to me, like all these little stories. You know, dropped your
knees and the hell is going on? If you remember, do you remember we did build us a quick didn't at the rock too, We did drill. He has reputation. We got jamped up for that one. A little bit. You remember we did the drill down in the water tunnel. We went down the water tunnels and we came up and what do we see we
came up? Do you remember, No, Billy Quick was sunbathing with shared office shared off look the waters you look like with on the top of the ring and which like, oh my god, dude, I love that prize. Yeah, the Oceanic Society didn't drag dude. I've seen that guy in a couple of jobs though, man like little Harry jobs that he calmed people down, like like uh if you would jammed up, yeah you want he's in the top three man. Yeah, guy, Well he would come get
you, bro, no doubt about it. He actually came and spoke. I don't know, probably a couple of years before he passed down by my fired pupping down here for one of our guys graduating and came down and he was sweating like a pig in the hallway. He's like this fucking build, it's hard, just totally soaking the whole thing away like a man. I was like getting completely naked and jump up on the kitchen table like a fucking
uh an eight. Yeah, he was doing this whole like this. He would go on the on the cabinets and the hast all the old hatsmat guys would be mortified, you know what I mean. His ball bag was hanging out and everything so funny. Yeah, he definitely, um, he was entertaining, you know. Yeah. I say, though, you're getting back to something that you said, like there was never a time because even on Garrow used to do it, three o'clock in the morning. All right,
guys, we're gonna drill. Nobody would ever complain. You're right, we're going out. Nobody would complain. Forget about more than day drill and the guys who bitch I'd go to a detail of the fire houses. Guys with bitch it they had to drill. We'd be drill at three o'clock in the morning. Nobody would ever complain. I agree, Mill Glenn Harris was the He might be number one if if I was in the basement, who's coming to get me? Yeah? Now they're they're very similar. Yeah, I
mean I always uh, I always love the one. So you coming to work, you would, uh, you'd put your gloves on, you know, the latex gloves like you were a proctologist, and you would check that rig out from basically bumper to bumper, and then you'd snap the gloves off and you'd say, now we're ready. You know. It just reminded me that Karanji at the at the anniversary the other night said the same thing. He says, you prick used to used to check the from stuck to third
before I got in everything. Just you tracking those gloves off, you know, And and if somebody said, yeah, I got that, you'd be like, yeah, that's nice, and you would just be and then you'd be like the exam is over and the doctor says we're good to go. It was, it was, and you know what I loved. It wasn't just a flash in the pan. You did that always, and uh it was nice to see. And you know if if other guys pick up like
that, oh no, they definitely coops, well coops ended up. Let have it that you had, And uh, I appreciated it very much. You after Elemon Kevis became he was the guy I was for a little while. That's that's a good reason. Yeah, good mon. All right, So let's get too were at the squad and you decide now you're gonna fulfill your life alone dream and you're gonna be a lieutenant and rescue for Yeah, happened you get the call you knew you wanted. Yeah, I mean I
could remember distinctly. Um, you know, so Brian Hicky and I, um, we ended up going to college together out in Suffolk and he was big with the fireman eligibles and so we got friendly with each other. And and then he went to Manhattan. When he got on the job, he had some major, major weight and then he came to thirty eight and we worked there, and he left thirty eight, uh and went to four as a fireman. So you know, it was great to get reacquainted with him
after all those years. And uh, he calls me up, I'm off duty and he had an he just became the captain and rescue four and he says, I could I need three lieutenants and uh, would you be willing to come over? And I said, uh, I just have to make one phone call. My wife was with me, so that would have that would have been two phones too. I called Murph and I said I can go to four. Um, you know, what's your thoughts that he go go? You know? And uh, you know, I obviously I felt
bad. But uh. I then got back to Brian and I said, let's leave it until it's on the order. And then when you Jagaloon saw it on the order, then you lost you You'll have a lot. We were heartbroken. I kept it under wraps, you know, until I was I was in the clear, you know, and uh, but it was you know, we're right next to each other, so running in with us uh just became It heightened the game even more of beating each other in Oh my god, I was so love that. Yeah, that was so much
fun to do that. I mean, I really I took I love it. It's like, yeah, it's in you. That's it. You just have to beat the other guy, even if you didn't do shit at the job. So as you beat him did a freaking job. Initially, you know, we went to a job in the projects on Long Island City. Quick was driving and I'm gonna call it a Brooklyn thing. I've never seen it ever down there with locking up the wheels on the rig, you know, coming into the well, he slid with the engine and he rear ended
four. I was welcome until you hit him. I said, before you do anything, make sure that we didn't kill the chauffeur, Will you please and back it up ten feet so we could deny any knowledge of this. And we hit him hard. Oh, we whacked him squarely and they weighed thousand pounds. All I kept seeing was the four getting bigger me too. Wait, you were in the back. Who that was? You were in
the squad at the time. Yes, I was back. Oh we hit him so square, It wasn't I'm holding it and removed that rig probably about three feet, you know, I said, but I hit him. I was impressed. Shot, you idiot? Shot? Oh? He really was. He was shot. Yeah, we you know, Like I said, I got in a few with him, but none reported. You know, when did you get there? You got four? And what the two thousand,
two thousand? Yeah, right right? And uh, Brian Hikey went over, I mean not Brian, Brian Fahey went over one after you. Now, so he was already there. Yeah, yep. Do you remember where this picture was? No? I don't you know what that was that was? It looks like one of the spares though, right. That was the oil tanker that flipped over on the b que on the Oh yeah,
yeah, yeah. You remember when they stole they stole the truck and they flipped it on the uh and he and the guy was burned up, and they the fuel was going down the down under the thing going into the sewers on fire, and uh yeah, Dave Rayner, he moved that track to trailer. He popped the air brakes. The next thing, I see him going down the service road in the track, the trailer just rolling. So Dave, just make sure you know how to stop the damn thing. We
already got one flipped over. And then I just remember the because the chief parked under the in the gas station across the street and they the antle system dumped all went off. God, that call was was covered and we're just like, wow, that's probably not a good place. Yeah, we got on that pretty quick. You know. That was h That was a lot of fire. Yeah, it was. I have a couple of pictures.
We didn't do anything. Yeah, we got well we got you know, my thing was there's somebody in the cab and uh, you know, we got ten forty five. Of course, it was kind of made that all mission that just you know, that was about the only thing we could do. It was really just, uh, a lot of fire, you know, oh my god. It was roasting right. It was every whole sign, a picture of the sign, the BQWE sign was all burnt. Yeah. Now did you know Brian before, I mean from outside and the volleys
at all. No, no, just just from going to school with him and and and then when he came to thirty eight, like I said, it was just like, ohly crap, I remember you and uh so yeah, it was just uh it was just a fun time. And we gave me that opportunity of going there, and um, you know, it's it was fantastic because you know that was another unique thing. He had three new lieutenants, uh, Kevin del Del John Weisheite and myself and uh and he
was a new boss, you know, to new captain. I should say, uh, you know, he's lieutenant all but uh you know, but um, you know that Notre Dame's emblem of the fighting Irish. He was the epitome of that, that little irishman. Uh you know, oh he definitely uh you know, not a big man, but he was a giant. You know. It was really uh great guy, great bossy six right, Well he's in rescue is yeah yeah, yeah. And the Times yep, a little bit us guys, Charlie women. Yep, this is the
compliments of Jills from the chest. I was gonna say, Joe took that picture that, Yeah, this was I remember that. That's we had that Oklahoma rig, Oklahoma windshield. I was like, holy crapper killed in this thing, right Richie Smith was driving down Queen's Bolvard. Holy shit, man, he's right up there with two ninety bro with that rig. Yeah, yeah, he wheels that son of a gun. Well, the wind shield was about knee height. I rattling, you know, and then well,
zealman, I don't know how many mirrors I think I did. You know, we would either find out, we get replacements, and we go to truck junkyards. I think he's you know, it wasn't so bad when he took out his mirror, But when he took out mine was like, all right, now, now you're getting serious. You know, God's where's that other picture with me in the loom. I think I was telling him that's when he first went to rescue far. I was telling me, yeah,
you missed a good job in here first two. Look at him, he's got this. It was was that just one where um Tommy Macray had to go out there the head first ladder slide out the window that was that was over by. That was like Paul lock Alley. That was like old a tenement type. Oh no, plock Alley over there, man, I can't. I'm I'm dying with low wood hare here. Look at this. Yeah,
I get the chops too, the big chops going on there. So you it was actually Brian Hickey who was working for Father's Day, right, it wasn't uh yeah, it was. So it was really unique because it was Harry was my chauffeur, and we were doing hazmat training and I said that Harry, let's choose this week we'll be all Father's Day and he's like,
nah, boss, I got something to do. So, um, Brian was working over time somewhere else and he worked the night before so he yes, you know, listen, I'll just stay here in my own place, you know. So you know, it was one of those things of you know, his fate would have it. Um, so I'm home studying for Captain Father's Day and uh, you know you hear that, and it just you know, it kind of changed everything, you know, because studying
wasn't so important anymore, you know after that. Uh, you know when you just you know, it just impacts you in such a way, right, No, it changes everything. The whole fire house changes when you know, you know, losing Harry was uh as well as Brian. They would just you know, Harry was just I would always gotta kick. The chiefs would call him like, you know, Division one four to Harry, you
know, like I have a big wheel around. Yeah that's fun. Yeah if I ever worked in four like they've eating ice cream of salt, and I wouldn't be eating and cool you know what, eat what you want and die when you're supposed to. Right, it's Harry is for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I see his kid now his kids didn't want to wait, I think, yes, yeah, big kid he is. Yeah, Harry was, you know, great guy. Um. You know when citywide details first started, he walked to rescue one. You know, shit, I
was like, what the hell? And when you know there was no cell phones or anything, he comes in like you gotta be kidding me, you know. So I think in the morning, I said, Harry, I'll give you a ride back. You know, He's like, yeah, that's great. It was you know, it was a long walk. You know, he's yeah, improve point, you know, but wow, yeah,
you know it's even hard or was that that? Uh nine to eleven was so close to that man where you know, daily recovering from Father's Day and uh Rescue four they lost everybody, but how many guys did they losing? For? They were nine guys that day. Um, Well, Hikey was working in rescue three. So he had relieved me. Um Sunday night. Um. It was his first two of back and he was working Sunday night and Monday day. And he said to me, you know, I've been out a while. And I was just like, oh, so glad to
have you back. And he said, I'm either gonna play golf Tuesday or I'm gonna take overtime in three. And they had just bought a new house. And I was like, you know, just welcome back. And he took the overtime in three, and you know that that was that. So Kevin Daldel was the boss in four. And I had called Kevin when it happened, you know, being Buffy and all. I had a scanner in the car and you know, and I'm like, Kevin, something just happened
down the Tracy. He goes, yeah, we're watching it. He goes, hey, we're getting a ticket. I'll talk to you later. You know. It's like wow. And so I was working with Hank On on a side job and with Ronnie Geese and all of them, and you know, as the day went on, we were like this thing, something's really bad has happened. So we all went to work and like, like you said, lives changed for for there after. And I didn't think I swung a hammer again after that. You know, that was the last day with
the side job. You know, really, so many guys tell me that you were really a big part of carrying that firehouse after nine eleven. I said, you wouldn't. Well, you wouldn't maybe, Uh you're a very modest person. But a lot of guys said to me that Timmy Kelly is what got rescued for through that time. UM, yeah, thank you. Um it was um. But there were a lot of a lot of good
guys, uh that you know, they were tenacious. Um, you know, Liam Flaherty, Um, Billy Murphy, UM, Eddie Morrison, you know, and Ed Zelman, you know, and it goes on and on and you know, just um channeling that was was my biggest thing of you know, they were not going to be denied, um, you know, and we set up an incredible network of uh accurate information. There was so much misinformation and these poor families were just getting a lot of bad stuff.
And we're like, listen, we got a guy there. They basically were there at twenty four to seven forever and we like, we have a guy there. I'll call him right now and we're standing you know, he's there right and we would get him a little better handle on what's actually happening. So yeah, it was, uh, it was. It was interesting. So you know, studying for captain. I never attained the rank, but I definitely had that unit. And um, just selecting all new guys.
I had to recruit new guys and get them and you know, they are on the phone trying to call companies like I need your best guys and they're like why, and I'm like, I need some spots to fill and and then some guys, you know a lot of guys stepped up and um, you know, it's just just um, you know, getting a company back
in service again and starting to rescue school. It was almost like you know, rebuilding or you know, starting the squad, it was rebuilding the rescues and we we were all unique you know, um the rescues and some of the challenges, and you know, the squad says, you guys know, we're decimated, and we were almost like every man for himself to rebuild you a unit. You know, we couldn't look globally. We just had a h get ourselves back online and and take care of our folks too. That
was that was a big part of it. You know, I wish I was better um identifying that and keeping them with us. But you know, the thoughts of actually collapsing the squads right, And it was initially yeah, yeah, you know, it seemed like the quick the quick fix, so to speak, just um, hey how about we do this and then consolidate a few Um. But I think you know, our early years proved their worth and and you know, I think with they realized is wait a minute,
we got this. Uh what we have left is is they're really good. So you know, who knew if more attacks would be coming we would need additional So I think, um, our short history proved, um, we're very valuable to the fire department, and and thankfully they persevered. I just remember John Gaine coloring and asked me saying, if they do that, we could think about coming over. Right. Yeah we were, we were all, yeah, we were. We were definitely recruiting, you know.
Um but you know, like I said, it was every every company for themselves to um, you know, rebuild and get them where you could. And like I said, I got a lot of great guys just um,
you know, they showed up and uh and stepped up really. Um. They were from great houses and uh, you know, I just remember sitting them on the stool and having a conversation of you know, you you realize, you know what what we just went through and it may not be over, so um, you know, just consider that before you you know, I never really thought about that actually, that you guys lost both officers there, so yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And then you know we had
to get I had to get a captain. And I was calling places like do you want to be the captain? And they were like who are you to Colby? Who was the next cab It was a Gandhiello no, um no, um, Paul Haglin came right and then we had Haglin for a while, but Um it took a while to fill at uh you know, and and and then lieutenants Larry Archer came. Um, we got Tommy Sullivan, uh remember you know, and uh you know, so we we were you know, it was like the three lieutenants running running the show, you
know, which was great. We had a really nice uh system there really um really got it back together very quickly. And the other thing was unique is our our rigs of five nine to eleven. Um, you know, it was kind of kind of interesting. Eight we had to find it. Um. So Zelman and I, uh, John Norman had said your rig survived, Um find it. So I did a mixer off and asked the Manhattan CEO, and they're like, the last we knew it was at Pace
University providing power. And you know, I get back to Eddie and there it is sitting next to ten and ten like like it just came out of you know. There it's sitting there like a horse coming back to the barn. And I go there it is right there, that's the one in the whole of flame now right it is it is, and uh, you know I went out for that dedication of that thing. It's just a great job on that thing. It's it's did I remember zelman Man? He was We
had him on the show. He was one of my favorite guys. He's just he was a beast of a guy, right. I always looked up to him because I was a kid. Yeah, I know. He was a thirty three truck guy and I wanted to go to thirty three and the whole thing. And when he was talking about when they wouldn't let us in, right, they wouldn't let us on the site. The cops were blocking everything off and and all the firemen were pushing. He was the front guy.
We had a picture of him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was just and I was a couple of couple of guys behind him, you know, I got but he was a presence, right and oh yeah yeah yeah. He another Hay another Harry dude. So after Father's Day, I you know, I I chose him as my chauffeur. And uh,
you know, just his level of dedication. He uh he would be up at night just studying the Queen's map, you know, I mean just you love when you see that, you know, and um, you know, he just didn't want to make a mistake, you know, And uh you know, great funny, funny man funny. Oh my god, some of the things he did to visitors and guests is just you know, he could drop his draws faster than that I've ever seen. West comes. It's a beach guy, that's why. Because he gave me a good zay on
this. He gave he gave him Coops the best thing that we've ever had on the show in three. He's not easy to get, you know, no, Coops. Oh you can't get coups, right, Coops shot me. Yeah, so ze Man's son can Doze Man's son works. It lives in Long Beach, so it's smarted by Coops. Right, and he works out in the same gym. So Coops says something like, hey, dude, I see your son all the time. Like, if you ever come up, you know, let's get together. We'll get a drink. You
know what I mean. If you're always you know he's up there. True. Oh good for you. Now you think frozen. He's froze story my froze nice. So he goes, he goes. Yeah, Coops, when I come up to New York is a short list of people I want to see and you ain't on it. I was like, Wow, I think I saw his bottom up through that. You know, I do say about him, he's like the best guy. Hey, what's going on? He's babysitting. It's great into something, you know, right right? Full shit,
man, that was awesome. You know, we had it. We had a chief come in and he wanted a roll call and I wasn't very skilled at doing formal role calls. And the chief was there too. Wasn't exactly one of our friends, and he wasn't brother was It was well, you know what's funny. Initially we weren't best friends, but he we learned to like each He came to my retiring party. You know, I mean, there's a lot to me. He's um but never no, no, it wasn't. But uh, anyway, the chief says, you don't do
many role calls, do you? I said not actually? And then um, he said, by the way, tell your show for the shave, and I Zeeland was doing something and I gave a silly face like shock and I said, Chief, that man's a cheap He was clean shaven two hours after and if you stand next to him you can hear his hair growing. He's just like you know, subtle. He's very subtle, like Kelly.
Then he asked me, aren't you gonna invite me back for coffee? I said not after that role cool, No, he invited him your hurry get out. He was unhappy with something we had done. But uh, it's always in our you know, us trying to do what we'd like to do best, you know, Yeah, God make it go away a few yes, yeah, all right, let me go back up to one. I'm gonna say too. You know who we lost is one of his first tours back mister Peabody. Right, Yes, I don't think they ever found him
in doll right, um, Kevin, they found his tool. He had a very unique calligan. Um. But no we did not, and Pete we did not. Um. So it was I can almost imagine Kevin saying stay with me, right, he was only there. So Pete did a lot of work for us at Father's Day after, as well as transmitted the who's authority has matt One. I was like, man, that is one of the most priceless transmissions. I ever said, how the hell did you think of that so quickly? I was outstanding on your part, you know
so. But yeah, I said to Brian, bring this guy over. He's uh, if anything, he's entertaining, but he's he's a great injured guy and uh and Quick hates him and him two guys like ended up with both of them, So it would have been fine with me. Got yeah, we got a few more. We got a little bit of something a little different here. Where is that is this? So this is out east?
Um after my f DN y career, I uh worked for uh federal agency and uh just kind of ended up his chief of department out there and uh so it was you know one one uh one firehouse, um, you know, two engines and uh you know or an engine, a truck and a rescue and uh so it was kind of kind of cool, but we would get called off site. Um so it was at an incident on the l ie. Um but I did I did the chief of apartment like that you yeah, um yeah, it just worked out. Um, you know,
it's uh just I think it was probably attributed. You know, you just you're into it, you want to do more, and uh I think people notice that that you just, um, you just work hard and you just can't do enough, you know, in terms of making yourselves better, making a place better and uh, you know, really really try to improve the group. So all right, he's one of those stack guys. Can't do enough, bro, you know, then you put us with twenty five others and it's just a fun day. Yep, we got this one the
Peabody too on the left. Yep, yep, Brandon Fahey Corrado cool. He's like five six in that picture the Volo geese about my height. Ye like it look like a baby next to those men. It's like four foleven. Yeah, yeah, feeling that's why I jumped up on the all right, So I got one from mister Joe again. I got this guy. Oh it's John Dylan man in the back, you know, dead sun of man, the white shirt nice yeah, yeah, the Chiefs. Yeah, he looks like he's going to a lou Wow. That's Sully right in the
middle. What's like, I said, I look like I'm wearing the tablecloth manties. Maybe I don't know w yeah for sure. Right, And then I get this guy. Yep, this is a seat, I guess, said Andy. Who else is in there? You got Hassick has Wells. I came on with Willie. Yeah, you're great guy. Oh my god, they're all They're all funny dude, sank Sean Parker. I love that guy too, man, he's all the jobs. Yes, yes, yes, all right, I'm doing it. No, he's up in three now,
always in three. Yeah, awesome. And then we got with the dungaree jacket in the front, Dead John go belly. I see him in the back all the time. He loves in movie. Yeah, look at Griffin, good guy, good guy. It's Ray to senior guy that. Um he's out right, you know he's he's on medically right now. But yeah he's still I don't yeh, he's probably right up there, you know. Um, but Richie's Richie Schmid. Yeah yeah yeah, so raised there. Well, RAI on more time in the company though, yes he does.
Yeah yeah, I came out ray right, was my problem? Class nice And we we briefly peaked at this one before. If you want to on a little bit, big lieutenant on guard, bless him. Yeah, you wouldn't want to grapple with that guy, though he's a good wrestler. Were you a wrestler, lou No talking about Garrow? No, I know I understand that I was asking the LOUI if he we're wrestling. Hey, we're talking to my guy all wrong, stabbing a face with a soldering iron.
We this one Coop sent us over to himself. That was the second alarm. We went to Yep, you got Magellan Na Murphy. There he is nice, Chris Kermangie Tito and John Ielpie again. Yeah, used to catch work bro Oh my god. Yeah, he was definitely out to prove something that man, you know right ye away, Oh my god, he was gonna be a good really really really good. I mean he was then too, but he was young. Yeah, he was aggressive. He could
get under your skin. They wanted to pummel him in probi school. That's how I want to pummel him everywhere. Wantubble him, right, and yeah, you get somebody like palled upset, you know, unscrewed his bottom of his locker and slid a pizza in and screwed it again and it got so rotten. And Ielpi's locker. I could see him come up every cool like you smell him. That's awesome. It was definitely like six months nice all
right, And I got two more. We got this one. Yep, Wealthy, that's Joe Fable Wealthy quickie Joe Hunt them one of my favorite guys. Yeah, so we went to take that picture, you know with the World's uh World's fair globe out there, you know globe they filmed the Men in Black at that time, and that's Woody uh McHale right from Yep, that's just passed away not too long ago. Yep, all right. In the last one I have was this guy. Wow, it's kind of that was the crew right there. Man. Yea, yeah, so this is
you guys just had that squad anniversary. Was pretty impressive. They had this picture and then they had the picture now twenty five years later of all the guys. It was pretty cool how they did how they did it. They took away from a fronto. I'm standing next to afronto again. How do you yeah, how do you pick yourself out? Okay, stand up? You counted another. You're gonna give me a complex soon, I don't know, I'm sure. Come on, guy, man, come on, man,
Oh well that's it. That's what we have. A photo we got. I think you know what time it is, Damn bro, I think I know what time it is too. I think I know what time it is. You ready for the music? I'm you ready for I don't have this one, mister, So I need you, I need you all right ready, here we go, It's time for me, oh of the day. Take it away, sir. You know you guys have quite a few mild stones, and seeing some of your previous shows, I mean, how
much more can we go over? But so I was just thinking of something that you need to do well because if you don't, I'm speaking from personal experience, and I just say going in and out of a window, make sure you can execute that move very well from a portable from a roof, and then once you get in, make sure there's a flaw, because I've done that twice where there wasn't. So I just thankfully survived on both falls. But the only thing was hurt was my pride. And the other one
is coming out. And if you want to execute that maneuver where you look like you know what you're doing with a mask on without making anybody too concern for your own safety, do so, but do it quickly. So I was just trying to think of for myself just getting that maneuver in and then back out again, because it doesn't go well on the way out usually you're in a hurry. Uh, if you're on the floor above. I was just gonna say it. He used to practice that in the squad a loss.
Yeah, but Joe Harky used to do the jump head first, grabbed the top run and swing him. Oh my god, yes, right going out to the side. You used to wrap your hand under the run and then we would tie each other off so that, like the lou just said, you're gonna be coming out of there in a hurry. So and it's the guy behind you that's gonna make sure that you're Yeah, yeah, you're getting asked out. You don't want to be the first guy. But at times, yeah, he gets to take his time. You're the one that's
got to get out of the way. But uh, I just figured just the basic thing and just doing in a conventional book ladder. You know, it was always portable ladders. Um. I used to steal the ladder off the engine because I couldn't do the twenty four foot ladder off the truck. You know, took two guys and I wasn't capable. So I the one off the engine all the time and I could always run around the back with the engines twenty four footer and it was just a lot faster for me.
I can handle that. I'll tell you one thing too, is when you're going in the window, most of the time you have an audience. Yes, so you're better off making sure that you uh, you know, did you do your calisthenics and practice that maneuver like you said, because just hooking your leg on a curtain coming out, it's like Oly Christ or if you gotta take out the window guards or any of that. You got one leg in, you feel your hamstring ready to pop. I'm okay, I'm good.
I meant that. No, it's good. That's definitely a great tip. Mans is on fire? Who is this guy? Pulled the pictures all all over the place? When I'm in the zone? You know the same thing when you get in the zone. You're in the zone. When you're in the zone, in the zone. But you know, yeah, we finally got him roof well worth it. My face hurts so many stories. Yeah, he's the man, come on, he was the man. He's the man. Now he knows he's the man. The man, You're always
the man, That's what I said. I think we got to take him up and go out to the garage to the man ship bar is open. Yeah, and you know what, you're on my list coup, So the hell with zealman. You can your zeal exactly what we will tell stories about good Old what's his name? Exactly. I don't know if Roof can come down from God's Country, though, you know I'll come down. The trip is worth it. It's worth worth it, all right. You can't come to the trip on the fifth, I'll be down in the down South like
a shame. Yeah you know, yeah, I know we have it every year, So you come on next year. I would. It would be a pleasure. Don't right Your train going by, Yeah, well that's that's my train. I gotta catch. Listen, it's not all roses. I live on the other side of the tracks. Oh I got you. I don't have my phone here. Oh yeah, you got the house. Got the Rocco money, you know what I mean? I think he gets residuals on the Rocco money. Somehow comes in every rope gets something look in his
face like this? Why not? Why not? Good for him? He still looks good. All right? So you got anything, Roof? You have any shout outs for the end? I don't did you have did you want to go over those? Um you know I've I've been out a long time. Um, you guys been after me for a long time as well, and uh you know, it was just, uh really quite an honor that you you had me on and you always have real heavy hitters and I'm
just not shot but I'm sorry. I know well and uh you know we ran in the same circles, so uh just we had you on the radar from Jump Street literally from the first when the first I thought we had about doing this podcast. You were you were in the top five, like right out of the box that we wanted to get but obviously you were still working
and you kept giving us excuse. Yeah. Yeah, well, Louis, I met you in one seventeen when you were there and uh you know I covered up in the up in that battalion for a while, so you know, wow, you guys go way back. Yeah. Yeah, it was just but good but uh you know, like I said, uh, some of the folks we mentioned and um, you know you're looking at the old school tip of the day one of the things that um not related to firefighting.
But I just you know, you gotta everybody coming on. Like we talked about some you know, mental anguish we suffer and dealing with that. Um, take care of yourselves mentally physically. Um, you know it's uh we deal with it differently today. But um, you know, being being fit is you know, win votes with Kubla on this, but um, you know it's really the only tool that you're personally responsible for maintain a level of fitness. And uh, you know you I found it was one of
the things that kind of got me to retire. I just said, I didn't want to, um, you know, last guy up the stairs, you know, I didn't want to be that guy of like where the hell are you? You know? So, um, you know, you just got to be a top of your game and when you're not so much, I said, I don't want to do something seconds So I left more and I want to leave on the top of my game. So and you want to retire and spend some of that those years my mate later something like that.
Now that that is terrible, right, right, don't stay too long? Yeah, guys that you know, yep, stay fit And I'm doing well and healthy and you know it's I had a few incidents before I retired and you come to that realization it's uh, you don't dwell on it, but it's an incredibly dangerous job. You know. I had had a few run ins, uh like tour after tour, and I was like, you know, you you rethink, uh, I want to be around a little bit more so you know now I'm my days are filled being grandpa days.
And I ask you we had grand babies. Good, so I can't wait, like wait, but I really can't again. Thank you all from it sounds like the trains coming back for you. It is he I start get stay fit and living on a hundred years and I'll never have as much money as with Frano. I'm just saying, like, there's my boy smiling way. But alright, God play the outro for us. Let's prop's got something? No I gotta you? Uh, did you guys want to I'm gonna play the banner or I'm sorry, the outro, but do you want to
cover with the yellow dds? I don't. I'm kid took my phone. I don't have the information. Do you have them? I have a pick of them, but I don't have the act about this. Come on, we prepped I did my son took the phone and put it on the charger for me, and I had it on my phone. So ayead we had a guy from Memphis. Correct. We had the gentleman last night from Memphis, Lieutenant Jeffrey Norman. And then a couple of nights ago we had the
gentleman that got shot uh in Alabama, Birmingham. I'm sorry, Jordans Milton. So hopefully rested both line of duties. I will give them the five bells because they are a line of duties. So stand by all right, both is rest in peace again, Lieutenni Kelly in the man shead sooner than you can say, coops and uh rough Gonzo, great show, Thank you, I'll see you. We'll see you guys next Thursday. We had a guest but he kind of tapped out on us. So we'll be we gotta
we gotta go to the We got a mutual, getting another mutual. Yeah, yeah, you sure to get a top out, you know, are you doing the out out? What do you do on your side? Yeah? I was waiting for you, guys. I don't want to overstelle you. Here we go. We'd like to thank you once again for tuning into the Getting Salty Experience as always. If you think we're out of good content, far from it, of course, by friends, you can find us on LinkedIn, you can find us on Instagram. You can find us on
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