You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience podcast. Oh, in a way, he unmuted us, right, he did. He didn't mute himself, but he muted everybody else. Hey, you're talking about my guy all wrong. Hey, you're talking to my guy all wrong. It's wrong tone. It's the wrong tone again. I'm stabbing a face for Saturday. I like the dog in the back. Where does that come from? The door? Welcome back to the Getting Sold the Experienced Podcast. I love the Head Nation.
Ruffie and I are back from Syracuse. Gonzo's joining us. That's the only podcast that brings the firehouse kitchen table and all the guys with all the years and the fire is any experience and everything else. Both two you blocomeby. How are you? Gonza? I'm actually doing pretty good about you a weekend here dead. Your father's dead, everybody out there. We forgot that to all your dad's out there in the leatherhead Nation. Me and Roofie were getting
it done up in Syracuse at the show. But it's slow, right, rough, a little bit slow, but we got these what do we get? The poker chips are out, baby. It was sounding like hotcakes. They were selling watched the Roofie's chagrin they were selling. If another guy comes up and asked me for a pizza cutter, I'd like to educated to say, oh, where pizza thing, pizza cutter? I might get these left with his buddy. I'm like, yeah, go buy a couple of pair
on the way, they will get the pizza cutter. But I don't even tell you this guy. So we're walking to the to the block party, which is we roughly we go to all these things. Bro. We know, sausage fests, sausage fest there's twenty thousand guys that about three chicks and come out. Usually we're out, we go do it, did it, but we do want to do chiefly. But he asked us to come. So it was raining the whole freaking weekend. Bro. I'm walking down the
street and I hit a piece of wet cardboard. Bro, and I take a Charlie Brown header, Right, I go past me. Right, We're trying to break dance in the middle of everything. Not my partner friend of forty sutton is. He don't look to me and says, oh, Buck, okay, you know what he says, what the fuck are you doing? That's what it was you're trying to do the backspin but they did back in the eighties. And you see him walking down the bo He's got his
shots on. He's so bow legged. It's like the right. So everybody's like walking. Bay was like, hey, how you doing? How you do? The next thing? I know, I see I don't even know what the hell he's doing. And he's like, yeah, he's going head over hills, but he's trying to catch himself. I turned back around to like see what he tripped him up, and there's nothing that Like, I'm like, what the heck. He's like, no, no, I was
on a piece of wet cardboard or something. So I was crying. He's like, yeah, well you know you should have been maybe like it cools you. You are right, you didn't do anything. He's would go, you go, you go, you go, stay away from the light, little buddy, Oh, I would be. But then the best guys we get to the place, we get to the hotel right where they haven't it goes the guy behind me. I never met the guy in my life. He goes, who, buddy, are you okay? Are you all right?
I get it from a stranger. I get it from my saw. Well, you don't know, you're a jackass. He might be a little concerned for you, you know. Yeah, Coops tripped over the air. That's what he was tripping, stepped on it. So we get to the hotel. Make a long story longer. We get to the hotel at it's me Coobes and uh me Right. So the two three of us hanging out there like staring each other. The band is like warming up. I'm like, what are we doing here? Like? What does this thing stop?
What are we doing? He's like you want to get out of him? Like, brother, we were like we got the hell out of there, Like, oh my god. That's why I don't go to those things. They all suck. They said it was good like around an hour and a half later. Yeah, I've been to a couple of fifty icy even those can be questionable. What the dog putties? Yeah, screw that shrip. It definitely is a We got Frank Leab chiefly speaking of Chief Leave coming on Thursday night. He wants to do Q and A. So have you got
questions for guy like Frank Leaves? Send them to me Akoum's podcast at gmail dot com and we'll read him. Oh, you can also take a couple of dollars out of your pocket e cheap baskets and go on the souper chat and throw them out to him. That night, he wants to do a lot of questions and answers, as well as talk about some of his fives. Gentleman, much funny, All right, what do we got? I'm a tough Oh Vince nice? Oh wait the dinno with Vince Love. Vince,
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a little hitch with us. Bro You know we may or may not have drink. I gotta say, I have to thank all the guys who bring drop of booze. They think we're alcoholis or so, but more guys have been dropping off booze at that booth, and you can chake a stick at even even a buddy Bobby Devolved, he did too. I'd do it all here we go? Oh say, can you see buy the Jonesy light?
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roof? Oh maguire, Oh my meanderthal coming in there? How about just a big guy looks like his knuckles are dragging on the What are you saying? I mean, come on, wait, wait, while on that note, we look at him, look at the sign, Look at him next to you. You look like a ten year old. Wow, there's jewels in there, bro, I mean towering over you guys. Anyways, he's big, a man, a man out of the shot. But tumbo, where's that from? Bro? Come on that photos at the coliseum this year?
That correct for the Shenatigans. Let's get a brand. I always been a photographer with us. You know, you never know you do? Are you with that day? Yeah? Oh oh oh oh okay. So let's get it to Jules's career. Bro. So where'd you grow up? What neighborhood you come from? What made you want to be a fire in any
family in the fire you know? You know? Yeah? I grew up in Freeport, Long Island, born in nineteen fifty five, and my my father, my uncle's cousins all on the fire service between Freeport and Seldon, Long Island, and my dream, my dad and my sister taken me to the firehouse since I was about three or four years old. It's just uh, you know, love at first sight, watching love the fire trucks. And I believe my sister still has one of my uh papists from first grade
when they ask you what you want to be when you grow up? Is that right? And my aunt was a paid New York City fireman? Is that right? Oh? My god? Yeah? What were you guys doing all the racing back then too, Like all the races and stuff, like what was your father doing that stuff? My father did it back in the day. He joined the nineteen thirty five. He had forty eight years in the deployment when he thay, wow, yeah, nineteen thirty five. Yeah,
that's a couple of years after he transferred the whole one. He started out in Freeport Engine Company number one, and he transferred in nineteen fifty five because he moved south and two blocks away to firehouse. Is that still the firehouse? No, that's the park a lot now. Firehouse now is right next to it. And that's what I have? Is this what it is? Right now? Is this? It's? Yeah? I wish that's headquarters. Okay, that's one up on the train station. Bring the picture of
his dad back, bro. He's tall guy, right, yeah? Yeah, he was six too. What happened to you? Bro? I got my mother's hight coops taking man right that great got all my athletic ability from him. He played softball, ran tournament same as I. Did. You know that he had the honor? He ran motorized we uh ran old fashioned? Wow? Where's the picture? I thought there was a picture as your father in the military? Yeah? What what's who's who is this? This
is your dad? My dad was its You look a little like de Niro and a little eighty second Airborne? Where was he? I guess he was in the European campaign? Yeah? They jumped D Day. Wow, he was a D Day guy. Yes, he didn't talk much about it when he came home, but think god, he made it home and uh I was. I wouldn't be here eighty second Airborne on D Day Bro. That's something to be proud of. Man. That's cool. Yeah, where was this picture taken? Do you know where that was? That I don't know
is it here or there? I am not for sure, Lou, but it's a it's a nice picture, you know, something I treasure I have on my desk. Yeah, yeah, no doubt. You said you had brothers or you're just a sister. I got four sisters. Well, and they were in the volleys too, No, not a two My sisters are deceased and two were still one in Florida. Went to North Carolina. So who was there? A free Port? They were busy vault. We got a lot of guys from Freeport on I know, big John mcguiremo. But
who was there when you got there? Was like poor Yeasha, and who's there? No, they came in after I did. Oh so there were your bops? Yeah yeah, yeahshaging Uh. Newberry was there before me in truck company us Newberry. I got to I got to be real friendly guys. Guys. Tell me I've been a paid by him in my whole life, because when I graduated high school, I started working in a good old f W Wars on Main Street. I saw it there full time in seventy
four. And truck Company was right Acrosse the street on Church Street, and my two bosses let me out the back door go to calls during the day. I thought it was great. And then uh, in seventy and nine, while you were doing that, right, Yeah, And in seventy nine my cousin knocked on my door. They were looking for a meter reader for the village of Freeport for the water the parltment. So my obviously, my first question to him was, George, I got no problem. Can I
go to firest on a day? He says, I don't give a shit what you do once you get your meats ready by the time period. So I went on to the village of Freeport for eleven years, which also helped when I retired from the job, because eleven years carried on to my pension. Really oh wow, yes, wow, end up run the fires meters run at the fires. They were doing a lot of work. Then, yes, we were. Freeport was a hot, hot little town. Big Queen Annes over there, right, Queen Anne's High Ranches, a couple of
st is here and there. Palman Building's second third floors. Are they the busiest on Long Island? The busiest? Hempstead's pretty busy. Yeah, it's gonna say we've we've We've always been back and forth between Hempstead, Long Beach, Beach, Uniondale, right, Roosevelt. They they're pretty busy also, Yeah, those are all hotbeds. Yeah, yeah, I live here at Long Beach. They have one paid engine and they paid engine and the rest of the volunteer. But they do some work many, Yeah they do.
We've gone mutually there quite a few times. Does three point have any paid guys? Any paid or it's all volunteers. I think a Long Beach is the last one, right used to be Garden City of Long Beach, and I think Long Beach is the last paid one on the island. Yeah, Gordon City lost out unfortunately. And Abby SnO was saying Elmott too. Oh
they have paid. They might have maybe a paid ambulance. I know boll One I believe has a paid ambulance now and Oceanside I believe has also, right any any good fire stories with with Hank Ballet or hash hanging or any of them. Yeah, we had a couple of goes. Uh let's hear it bro fifty two Russell Place. I was a second assistant chief and we had a fire third floor behind the stove going all the way up through the roof and Hank lay we're on the roof and he says, man him,
do a trench cut saved this building? Yes? Today we got to go for it because I'm not a truck You have no idea what you're talking about. Were you always in the engine? You were always in the engine? Yeah, no ship nothing like having the novels, you know. Yeah, yeah, but I did. My first four and a half years in Freeport, I worked with Freeport Truck a lot because I ran across the street and
rolled the tiller rate. Which was talking about experience. Try getting get up right in the side of that rig going down Sunrise Highway, taking up two lanes of traffic. That's a pretty crazy man, how it certainly was you? Just you love that trench cut? Trench cut? Love? Did you save the building? Yes? We did? It worked one, We got one. We got one? All right. I heard those two words trench cut and on the roof, right, Hey, yeah, and uh,
A couple of these stories that proves us my third assistant up. Who was the guys that who who are the guys that you looked up to when you first got there, Like who was teaching you when you first got there. When I got first joined in the holes one, I had guys like Tommy Seaman, Jack Combs, Rod Schimmel, Skippy foward, Skippy forward. Was taught me how to drive the sixty one mac. I never drove six shifts of my life. And I became a student driver at nineteen, and he
taught me. The pump was not too not too difficult at first, you know, pretty easy, but driving I was like, you got a double clutch it and I'm like, I gotta double clucky. You got a clutch, get out of gear, clutter put back in gear. So my cousin Bobby Crutt, worked on a tow truck, so he took me out on his tow truck a few nights, teach me how to how to shift, and that get the you know, stick you down to a science. By the time I got into fire truck, it came natural. And then you
were driving out like a rape dape. By that time you have the rest is history. Then now it's all automatic, so it's a piece of cake. Was your dad Was he still around when you were working? Would you guys work it together? That's one thing. After I got married, and back then we needed three guys to roll the rig, and plenty of times I'd roll out to be two of us and like, where are you going?
I said, my father's retired from the village highway to department. I said, he's going to be standing on the corner waiting for us and go down two blocks and he'd be standing out front. That's great, man taken jump in the jump seat and the way we go. Was he an officer too? Is just a five minute just a fireman forty eight years somebody's got to be just as still around now. He passed away in eighty three, and if it was in this day and age, it would have been a
line of duty death. Well what happened? We had it. We had a call that morning about quarter to eleven. And I always went the holes one to drive during the day, but it also depended where I was working, where I was reading meters. I'd go to the cultest firehouse. That morning, I was north the Summerse Highway and for me to cross Sunrise Highway Merrick Road would a village vehicle with no lights or nothing. So I went to the headquarters and I rode host two. So nonsense call. I get
back A while later it's about quarter to twelve lunch time. I stopped at the firehouse real quick, and a couple of guys are sitting there and I'm like, boy, your old man's pissed at you. I'm like, what because he heard you on the front sheet. The host too. He didn't come down here to drive, and we didn't roll. We had no chauffeur. Oh my god, Oh my god. Boys, I said, all
right, after lunch, I'll stop by the house. So after lunch, I go back up to village all to our base there for the water department. They our office, and police head quarters is calling me on the radio. We're seeing eleven police desks. Forthwith what the hell they want me for? Forthwith? And police head quarters was right above us. We were in the basement office in the little tail. So I ran upstairs and saw Jean Steve Yodas, who just passed away recently. Great guy, got dress of
the soul. He says, yo, dude, you gotta get to your house right away. You follow us having a heart attack. And I was like, well, whoa what? Because you get home, he says, the amblance is there. So I jumped in the car and I just as I get there. They're pulling away in the amb. Once waded my mother, she's going to get my sister. I meet you at the hospital. Unfortunately had an aneurysm and didn't make it. And today be a line of duty death because it was. And I went a half after the court was
sixty eight. It's not that old man. No, why don't you put some volley lights in the meter eating car? Bro? They kind of found on that, frowned upon that. Yeah, favorite line. That would have been great, right, Bro. He was the water guy lights and sirens. When I made chief, I had that much my water cloth like speaking about you making chief, bro. Somebody asked me this question here. Let me see, I had a lot of birds chirping in my ear about you,
brou ask about the cotton crotch rappers when he was chief? Who the cotton crotch rappers? It says, when he was the chief rapper like singing, I don't know rappers, cotton crotch rappers when he was chief between your legs and your crotch area, I don't know. I guess you could think of we're on babe and uh Atlantic at an auto accident and some girl from over and she wanted to have a picture take away him the chiefs helmet.
So I was the nice guy that I am, put my helmet on, and she puts her arm around me and lifts her leg up, and I guess the photo he had no panties on? Is that found the po but his wife and we didn't realize it until a few days later, when the guy who took the photo had the photo developed him like bally Right, didn't realized until months later at the dinner dance when they were doing a slide. Hold on? Was that was that the seventies? Was that the seventies back
then? Or was that like the nineties might have been? It might have been a lot of the weed whack that hold on, let me get in there. That was the eighties, all right? A little bit more still so eighty nine? But when did you take the test anyway, which which I took the test in eighty two? Is that the test I got the challenged by the women, Yes it was, so you took it at eighty two, and I didn't get up. You didn't get hired till eighty nine,
thirty thirty four years old. And still once eighty five passed and I'm like, there's no way I'm getting on a job, you know. And when I got the letter, and I guess it was like July August that you know, they've they've been hiring, left that list, but I'm like, you know, and my listener it was thirty four eighty three, and I'm like, I don't have a I don't have a shot, and held thirty four. I got at ninety eight on a written ninety five on the
physical, and all of a sudden I got the letter. Hey. I was like, gold right, bro, the first letter. I guy, the class is supposed to start the end of September, so I was like, oh man, this is great. And then a week later another leather in the mail class that's been canceled on hold, We'll keep you advice. I'm like that's done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the middle of October, got the letter in date November twelfth, nineteen eighty nine.
I was like, I was like the Willie Walker sweepstakes in the mail for you, bro, with a golden ticket. The oldest Proby class. They said at the time, everybody's in their thirties. Yeah, everybody's in their thirties. That's like, Holy cow. How many guys in the proby class Jills, I want to say three hundred. That's a big class man. Yeah, it's a big class. Yeah. Yeah yeah, we him myself, Tommy's Bagnola and Billy Saint George together, Billy Saint George. Yes,
guy man. Yeah. He was two thirty six, started out in seventy nine Injine up in the Bronx. He's also an ex chief of at a ball one who chiefs together for three years. Right, and then he went down to the tool room or something. Right, wasn't he doing? Yeah? Tool room? And then I think research development, Oh, research and development. Right, he jumped in, he jumped in the in the river. He saved somebody somethinghow and oh Dave Weiss, Yeah, that's how we
got the rescuer war, right, I remember the start? Yeah, yeah, class that but we can we get together. We're gonna be the carpool, you know. So everyone's whacking up. You're gonna drive a week, You're gonna drive a week. So of course Dave looks at me and goes, so we're gonna take the red car to the rock when it's gonna turn to drive. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't know. You know what, guys still did it, bro, We had guys still do it in proratard it. But they parked outside. I left
at home, and that's crazy. I would never as on your back bringing you get We get sworn in now in November twelfth and I see rescue one pull up. I think nothing of it. Who gets off the rig? But two of my buddies, Bruce Newberry and God Rest of Soul, chief Ed Guaranty. Oh wow, And I knew ed from riding Freeport all the time back in the day. They come in to rescue one with the hash of Bruce and they have to call the chief the commission for them to ride.
I got to the point because they're always calling me because I worked in town as they If Ed comes in or anybody else and rescue one, just tell them to get on the damn RIGG don't bother calling me. They I know they know what they're doing. So of course we get all sworn in and I keep paying is Hey, congratulations Chief Government. I'm looking straight ahead, I looking at im, mumbling myself. Those sons of pitches, my chief and the guy behind me, this guy Mike and my squad goes hey,
because I think they're yelling to you. I said, no, if I thought they were yelling to you, you yelling to you, said, they ain't yelling to me. When did you become chief? I became chief in eighty six the ninety so I was chief of Freeport when I went to Prob School. Oh nice, you got out of Prob school. Proby School was a lot of fun. You know. Jake tableto one of our instructors.
He was he was the commissioner Ocean Side at the time. I guess about a third or fourth week at the rock training, we're gonna do a revolution call fire, and he's has a group to getheringm Me tell us, you know where the guys sit on the rig. So he picks out a guy for nozzle man in the backup control from the door. Okay, this is where you guys sitting. And of course, because then we need somebody to ride the front seat, some officer in charge, somebody who should have
experience with that. Ellison, I think you should have experienced and riding in the front seat. Get a I'm like, really know some of a bitch. Tat's out the bag? Broh, here you go get my paycheck? The prob school five five revels in here to get paid, you know, Wow, Chief allows and I'm like right like wildfire bro was Sakamano there? Yeah? Yeah, he was there. I got one of us of our guys in Freeport had thanks Giving a dinner at his house and two of the
members from his company were there. And the guy John's following while happened to be on light duty up in the office up there. He was getting me to retire. He had another week week and a half left. So when you went upstairs, you had a knock on that piece of wood, state your name. You here to clean up? You know, how do you remember that? Man? That's freaking crazy. I remember something I'll never forget because it was funny, but it wasn't funny. So the two guys ahead
of me they go in. I knock on the wood five Ration, every fire fire Ellison, here to clean your office. And he swings out of his chair, looks at me, goes, what did you say your name was? I said Torbration, every fire fire Ellison. So he says, you better knock a little louder because I can't hear you so I'm like, what the hell did I do? You know? So I banging this thing again? Yes, oh, so you're that guy that chief that rinky defied upon them in Freeport. And my chin hit the ground, like, holy
shit, how's this guy? Who's this guy? You know? You know? Of course he turns around the Sacama though he Chief, how would you like to have a body? Chief? Get you a cup of coffee? You gotta be his toilet bols? All right, Chief? He's like, yeah that sounds good, Tom milk with two sugars and my hands. I'm telling you, my hands the ship like a freaking leap on my goldie s you know. He finished slinging up. I'm like, what the hell?
So then again, so I'm leaving the guys say, by the way, he says, your buddy Johns Hello, So I'm like, I know a lot of Johns. Can I get a last name with? That? Gives me the last name? And now I'm like, uh, so that weekend back in Freeport, we have a run. So I called his company and say he is so and so on board. Ah, yes he is. To send him over to my car. He walked over my car with the window down. I got about the throat and I'm like, who is this
guy? Reckon? That would be my father in law. Why did you tell him? I didn't tell him. Richie and Mike tol him never at my house for dinner and they said, oh, our chiefs. I'm like, oh, my god, spaking my life miserables. He's left a couple of days. That's okay, he's retiring next week. I'm like, thank god, doomdele sales step on your cock back then too, because that was his big thing. Ah, he didn't, you know. I thought it'd
be worse, but it wasn't that bad. I was like, man, but you know, getting the Chief a cup of coffee, I'm like, you gotta be kidney. You know why me? Is he the chief? I wrote for you with it? He said, oh yeah, yeah yeah that was his mean, uh main thing. Yeah? Alright, So how do you get? You finished probably school and you go. You didn't know anybody over there? What happened? What? Nah? In fact, when I got two twenty four, they wanted to who I knew to get there.
I'm like, God, I said, I know a couple of guys, but this was I wanted to go. I wanted to go to injury company in Brooklyn. Yes, so the one guy says, look, you just came to the retirement home. It's like you gotta be give me right, which street is two twenty four on Hicks between Satan Hicks Street, right, yeah, back. The first time going there, I drove right past it. It blends right in with the rest of the Brownstones. All right,
I drove right path. I'm looking all of a sudden as I drove past it, I'm like, oh, first I had to go around the block again. Yeah, I mean, I'm your new proby. Who was the boss there when you got there? Captain McCarthy turned out later on was the chief in the three nine while I was in two thirty six. So so I hooked on and I never forget my first run. I gave me my group chart, the whole bit, and my gave me my little locker. And my first tour was a Saturday, and first run about ten a
half to ten that morning. We got relocated to two h one and I head back up. So my back to the to the chauffeur, Richie Sally jumps on the seat and he's cross to me, and he looked at me and we pull out the door and I'm like, he's like, what are you smiling about? I said, I can't believe I'm falling getting paid to do something I love to do, to fire truck and go to fires. This is this is great. I gotta fucking shoot grid on my face. Oh you know, this is the best. Did he tell you we're doing
it wrong? You're doing it wrong? The halls now? Oh yeah? What was that done? What was that roll? The holls? Now? Yeah? So I spent uh. I got there in January of nineteen ninety until February ninety six. You catch any work there? Put the thing, you catch any work there? Yeah? We caught a few. Yeah, you know, a lot like you know, but we had a you know, what were you working on the for the Saint George's Hotel? Work on vacation? Oh there you go, John, You missed it even to go
on vacation. Five o'clock one, we're getting made to leave, and I see it on the news. I'm like, you gotta be Kidney. My groups are working. I would have been there. I'm like, it just wasn't meant to be. Did did they did? What did they see there? What they did with that job that I really couldn't tell you every besides the LA they had a lot of fire. Yeah, all right, it was all hands all over the place. Man, it was all hands of course the street up you know, every two district. But I believe to
all fires on another run. So they were first due. Who was two four sixers first due there? Nah? Nah? Wow, two two sixes on state treet they would probably they might have been first on the second arm. I think they were first there. Maybe my barings are off there, but yeah, you're jack though, Yeah, yeah, you're stilling to break
it up there. You were freezing a little bit. Who were some of the guys that you remember that like you kind of took you under that wing just I mean, I know you we're doing the volley stuff, but who was teaching this stuff at the firehouse. Yeah. In two twenty four I had Richie Sally Don Taney was one of the senior seated chauffeurz Bobby Ryan, great guy, Hazel h a couple of real good guys. And then uh Richie Feliciano. He he's another seated chauffeur. I didn't work one him much,
but he was good. But these are the guys on the backstep, you know, Jimmy Kelty another good guy. Uh, I mean it lives. Once they found out the Dominic Dominics, you know, first day in the fires, first day the yo, you're from Long Island. You must be a volley. I said yeah, And they were like, holy shit, you emit that. Yeah, I'm proud, I said, I said, where do you guys live? They all live on Staten Island. I said, believe I live on Long Island. The real islands too, right,
And you know you're famous for the dump. We're famous I having volunteers. And they're like, oh, look at this, you know. Oh yeah. So and then they found out about two three weeks later. I didn't tell him I was cheap. I just thought him I was a volunteer in Freeport. So now we're meeting Dominic was coming out the Long Island and meet Discus doesn't so he can say, I got your check, I'll meet you in three part. It's okay. So I met him when I had
the Chiefs car. He gets out of his car and he goes, holy shit, that's that's yours. I'm like, yeah, into April. Because you didn't tell us you were chief. I said, you didn't ask you just asked Les Volley. So then I started bringing the chiefs car to work and they loved me after that because Chief Ganda was the commander in three two he'd pull up, see the chiefs car off front and he walk in. You know who's like he didn't know who's whose car is? That said wine?
You know. Oh. Then we started talking about different things. That one pitch you having me on fire behind me? That was Hempstead. Were there on a mutual aid and we started talking about that. Yeah, and whatever he came in for, he forgot what he was gonna yell out us for. And we started talking. Volley, you've talked to every guy's. Oh man, we like when Jules was working, when Gands worked, because they stopped talking bolly stuff. You take the chief out of here. You
have to worry about nothing. What's that fire down below? That with the bucket that's the same one, Oh, the same job. Yeah? And where is that Hampstead? Oh? You mutually we went over in Boston's. We got to have grant the chief a you need something from free Port because yeah, I get me an injured in a ladder, no problem, Yeah, next thing, he had us up on the roof, and how long were you chief? For four years? It's a four year term. Assistant
chief yeah, third assistant. Yeah, you move up the chiefs. So it's chief chief of the palm in eighty nine to ninety. I got out April nineteen ninety, chief of the Parmen three hundred, about forty guys. Was it a bitch getting to two twenty four? Like from Long Island? That's god, Oh my god, a little it was horrible. You know, a good day our forty five minutes, Yeah, that's all about now. If you tried to do that now, that was then do that now?
Couldn't even the rain, forget it. Two two and a half hours to get home in the rain. It was like, oh my god, So three and a half yearsn't a job. One of our good lieutenants, Lieutenant Golden, was promoted at two thirty six and he's like, what are you doing? You got to go to two thirty six. I said, I know. I got a couple of my buddies there. He was, who do you know that? I said, Peter Strall, Billie Telford, Oh my god. I worked with those guys and said, yeah, they
every time they see me, they break my balls. When you're gonna come to two thirty six. So I put the paper in, Chief gained it. Wouldn't sign it because that wasn't first grade. That was a lot of those play My cousin couldn't get out. He went to one on one Okay, couldn't. Yeah, he couldn't get out of that until his first grade. Yeah, yeah, gained. It was big on. I'm making first
grade. So after I made first grade, I finally put the paper in and we're out underneath the Brooklyn Bridge multi unit drill and he pulls up. He gives me one of these, So I shut down that on it come down and he goes, what's this? I said, it's called a transfer paper, Chief, and I have first grade. See. He goes, h, what do you want to go there for? I said, because they I'm not getting any younger. I said, I'm freaking forty years old. Holy shit, man, that's crazy. I want to fight fires,
I said, you know, And they got nothing but pigeon cool. That might be pigeon cools, Chief, but at least it's a fire. Pigeon cool. That's a good one. I like it. So he's all right. You know you have a hook and that's the hook ed. Gavity was captain and my uh mental with him with Freeport then my Freeport rigs, you know. So I give him a buzz and I said, hey, cap, Hey, hey, don't chief. I said that good. I said, I just want to let you know I'm putting my paper in a transfer.
Its two thirty six. He's okay. He says that right now we have no openings, but one of our guys might be going to squad one. I said, all right, I said, just one of your heads up. I stopped by the A the other day. You aren't there, but you know I saw a couple of eyes. So he goes, oh yeah, he goes, you have any hooks at the job besides you? The only hook guy I know was Ray Maguire. He knows what people in the job than I do. When he ain't yeah, so he laughs,
he's yeah. So as soon as I hang up the phone with him, I called my brother Ray. I'm like, hey, I just dropped your name with ed Garretty. I said, I just put my paper in the transfer. He says, no problems. I'm just happening to going to his house tonight for his surprise birthday party for him. So I said, Okay, that guy know from somebody not being on the job. That guy knows everybody. Yeah, he's one hell of a guy. Amy, he a great I love that guy him at his brother he's a brother man. Let
me tell you he's my right hand man. One of the best assistant chiefs. I mean I had three good assistant chiefs. I was a free Port him. I had Kevin Knowle who happened to be a free Port police officer, and Bruce Newberry Quinn X for three better guys, especially the eight weeks nine weeks I was in probi school, I was practically at a free Port those three guys rand of the department while I was going. Couldn't here for a better three guys to be an assistant chief with no what what made you
pick two thirty six? Well, I do Peter stroll and every day and I and I like you sitting me, saym was I probably cut an hour off your commute for easy, right easy? On the second and third choice? You put down second and third choices, No good man even gained the moses that like your second choice? Is it some second choice. Its two thirty six, So I'm gonna stay here. Yeah, Now go ahead, tell him it seems like I went to ninety. I was saying there so
many times driving these guys because he don't pride. I used to tell him, you guys had prog you go to show for school. If I want to come down here, you know, I wouldn't have to be here in this ship shop. Then they tell me, you know, a couple of times I get down here, they knew the guys didn't know I was the chauffeur, and they're telling me, hey, just to let you know it
goes, we get out quick. I said, oh yeah. I said, well, you're not going anywhere but at me, because I'm driving this piece of shit today and have two thirty six is second to the We're gonna be sitting here for a while. Are you that close? Bro? Are you running to each other? Man? Not really? I mean we run first and third. We're in the same battalion, but we Yeah, it's it's spread out. We were We were three two with two and a quarter and one or seven three thirty two, one seventy five, and we got
the queens a lot and it was ninety three, three thirty one. Yeah, we wouldn't see them until did you guys know each other though when you were in ninety Yeah? Yeah, they drove them. Somebody had to get them to the fires. So back with together. I'm sorry. So that Sunday morning, Ray calls me. He says, hey, he says, you didn't hear from me, but you're going to two thirty six, so I'm I'm happy to picking ship. I'm like, oh my god, because
Ed's gonna be corn you later when he wakes up. So later on that afternoon, Ed calls Mean. He says, your boy Ray drives a hard bogging but if I want to keep going with Freeport to different affairs and to the files X fowl, congratulations you're in two thirty six. Wow today, Thanks Cap, I really appreciate it. And he goes, I'll even put you in with your your your volley friends from Oceanside and Ball. When he put me in with Peter Stroll and Billy Saint George, oh my god and
the guys in two thirty six. The coodn't x with better bunch of guys to work with. Let me tell you what was your first tour? Like you remember your first tour, Like did you did you have a job that day or not? What was your first job? Nah? I was say about a week and a half before you had a first job, you know, a little small base and fire on fountain, but uh, just working. Peter Stroll was a chauffeur Steve Cassidy, crazy as hell, great guy.
Uh. We used to drive Pete Strolling nuts. My first my first twenty four partners JOSEPHS Starry. We get our calendars out and we've been doing twenty fours for the month. Pete would be going nuts. How how do you know what's going on the end of the week alone the end of the month. And I said, well, he knows his side job. My side job. We don't do what he does. Well, I used to do that. Yeah, if you had to switch, you would switch, but you have Yeah, so we'd have it all and Pete would go nuts.
Then about two or three months into it, I grabbed Joe one morning, I today, I said, when we go downstairs, besides doing this month, let's do twenty fours for next month. D Pete nuts. So we got downstairs and I'm like, hey, you got your calendar. Now we got the calendar out and now like, okay, yeah, I got a softball game here is. I can't do that. I got this here three part I can't. So we do the twenty fours. And I said
like, okay, how about next month and pizza I get back. Gu guys kid me, I'm going to mar You got to going next month already? Yeah, Pete, I said, we have our life to get out already, and we go to go to the next month. I can't believe it. That's good. So you worked with Steve, Yeah, work with Cassidy. Imagine he was the the delegate right for two thirty six when you out there. Yeah, so he's the delegate. He winds up being the
president. Yeah, he was. And three of us tell him, Steve, you know a lot of stuff, why don't you just went for president first? He was like, nah, nah, I don't want to get involved with that ship. Damn. A couple of the guys finally talked him into it, and it just took off and did the hell of a job. He did a great job. He did did so those guys they come back and worked at Roster Staffings, firehouse, right. I don't know. Now, some guys, dude, but most guys don't come back, I
don't think. But they can. I know, that's what I heard. They could. But if and if he did, he did when I wasn't working, you know, yeah, you would remember that. Yeah, but then, uh, what is he doing now? I couldn't tell you. I haven't seen him in a while. He's not involved with the unions anymore. He didn't go to the to the national or anything like that. I don't I don't know what he did. You know, last on my phone was two two years ago, our lunch, and he came in this past
year. He wasn't there. So all right, so give us some fies to us from the I want to see that. There was a couple of pictures of the firehouse. You gotta see the picture. The one. Yeah, that was freaking awesome. That was that's one of the firehouses that has the uh BFDE. They don't have that on the door anymore though. No, No, we had a car crashed through. Oh there's that right repainted. That's that's a new teacher they came up with a couple of years ago.
You ain't first your last rickey, Bobby. Then that's the firehouse, like the firehouse Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's cool. It looks like thirty five, a little right five. It does, it does. The only thing I believe different is two thirty five. Their door odd door is here on the on the right side. Their door is on the left, and the conduit you can't see it is just right to the left. Is like a yeah, can do it. It's like Queens Boulevard made.
It's so great right there right because you can turn out real quick and be on the conduit. Oh yeah, going to Queen's Cross Babe Boulevard felt like a shot. Would you go that far over by on Golden Pond over there? Yeah? Second, due, third dude. Often middle of the night, no traffic. Who used to come there? You guys had the bottles, right, Did you have the bottles over there? Yeah? Remember bottle We had to talk about system. Yeah, cascade, the empty place,
bottles, bottles of beer, bottles. I swear to be a bottle taking like what you guys with the bottles. We've had a lot of good guys passed with thirty two thirty six, Like I had to play the drive in Sirocco. He's now a uh does the division commander now the Bronx, Paul Canappus Cannas. I like Paul, Yeah, I like Paul. Yeah, he's captain on one fifty five I believe. Is that right? That's right? You know what I think? I remember that? Yeah, I like
Paul. We got along well, drove d Toronto. He was a gene, was a rip. He was a great guy to work with. Jimmy Martinian, how long were you there before they sent the chauf for school? When you were a chauffel ready when you went there? Now they sent me the schau for school. I was there about two years and they called me at home says, I'm gonna send you a chaff for school. I said,
okay. Now it became a backup chauff And of course, first day back out of chau for school, I walk in the firehouse and of course a big chalkboard. You see seed two ninety, See you Jules much. You've gotta be kidney at least you go to fires Then did you see what somebody wrote there? I saw that? Quick, guys pull up back out. I thought you're gonna listen to a guy named Bill in two ninety. Those who know no, yeah, those who know you can't have last name,
last name burn. Yeah, his name is Joey Flame. Yeah. Those who know no, Hey, oh I got no more use for this guy. I got no, You're gone listen. I don't know, but just talking to my friend the wrong way. Gods, you know what I mean? Oh you mean? Hey, you're talking to my guy? All wrong? It's wrong, Tom, it's again stabbing a face with a saddowing eye. Hey, Billy Byrne, all wrong? I love it. You do it your face? Who was the red There was a captain, a
red headed guy. What was his name? Oh? Yeah? Was that? Were you that? You were still at right? Yeah? I was still there with that. I forget what his name was. You seem like a nice guy too, if I remember right, Yeah, Uie mulligan was one of the best captains we had. That he was good. And Kevin McCabe. Kevin McCabe left as a lieutenant and came back as captain. That's the guy, isn't that the guy? That's not the guy I thought that was. I remember that name, I remember him. Yeah, he was
he was. Yeah, he ended up on fourteen breaking his back. They hit a pothole, stinkhole, steakhole, right, pile on the rabbit now because Grogan Photos is getting over its its Two thirty six definitely better run to work ratio than two ninety. Yeah, that's a no brainer. We all know that. Yeah, if that was the case, I go to three thirty two. You know, three thirty two is the best second to engine.
It needs to go shotim bro hold on, guys, guys, who would you run in the most with one seventy five or one oh seven? Yeah, probably about the same dude, first and second dude to all our boxes. Just about you ran him one forty three, Yeah, one forty three. When we went to Queens or the north side, but any well down south there was one oh seven or one seventy five. Now, Ronzona used to say one oh seven truck and queens, right, is that?
What does that with? Two thirty six? Says busiest engine and queens? Some of my guys two thirty six You guys are queens, right, Mike, Well it seems that way because we're always going the McKey was the guy's name, McKean, mcke that's it. Yeah, that's Billy Burnt round and then Billy Burnt's got to be on the job. Bro Billy burn Billy Burne, when you step forward and give us details a little clue, you might be because he ruffled my buddy feathers over here, all right, we don't
have feathers getting ruffled, all right. Hey. Another good lieutenant was Mike Delina. Delina was a rip he. I don't know if I remember him. He retired as a battalion chief. He was a really good guy. He was just before Cannappus. When did Paul get there in the early two thousands? Probably, I would say, I can't remember. Why do you need a sound familiar Roughy? Was he a neighborhood guy? How was he Cannappis? Yeah? Uh? What do you work as a finding you know?
I don't know. I only know him from there. Huh did you work at two thirty six rough when you were bouncing? I mean I worked there. I worked there a few times. I remember. Yeah, I don't remember. I don't I remember working there. M I guess you caught no work. I tried to get him a job. I caught a job in Queen. Yeah, actually that was the case a couple of times. Believe guys, why don't you put you come over here with us? I think I caught a job in Queens one time. Yeah, how was that
all weird to me? That that? Uh the con do it there? You know how how it cut across the like how they would cut across the conduit to get to the north side of Uh. Yeah, you used to do like some funguli thing to get through traffic. Yeah. And then Polly Knapp as the one we have a we have a run one morning? How many times did we go to Shepherd? A couple of jobs on Shepherd three o'clock in the morning. I'm allawa, land, let's go to thirty six
first two Shepherd. So I get hunt the rigs, I pulled out and I'm like, I brain freeze. I'm like where the hell? So I'm looking at canapins. I'm like, Loo, which way is Shepherd? He's looking at me, like you kid me right? I might just slip three times. Yeah, I'm like, lou to the left or to the right. He looked at me to the left, jewels to the left. I'm like, oh, then you know it popped in my head. Now now I know where I'm going. Okay, I was blocked right there to the
left. What's that? What's the street? That you're that's right in front of the firehouse. What is that, Josha? There was like, yeah, there was like three or four blocks right there that were like frames and also that those were good blocks in there. Yeah, quite a few. Where is that? That? Is that over by Franklin K Lane? Over there? Is that where you used to get used to go over there? Is that? We're like second D north like the Autumn Street, Autumn and
all those other streets over there. That's the how to get it there, like a train thing there or so? How did you remember going like through something you had to go through to get north? It was like a little bit of a weird thing. You couldn't go just figure down Fountain. You can go straight north on Fountain from there. Yeah, I don't know. I don't remember Logan Logan right, Yeah, that was a decent run. How long we are before you got the seat, Jules? Uh probably up
four years. It was a backup between John Lennon, Stroll, Kenny g and Elly a good, good guy, a lot of laughs, and then uh Letting got promoted and then uh I got the seat and I saw doing that. I saw doing twenty fours with Pete Stroll but by the month. Yeah, no, it was by the day. Yeah, Pete got his revenge. Yeah. Yeah, what are we doing tomorrow? Are you going? You want to set up the next set? Yeah, I'll talk to you in a couple of days. Yeah. God, holy shit. That's
another good guy in two thirty six and a great story. Glenn Bullock end up going to rescue one. Oh, a great guy manh Yeah. He calls me up one morning, coming early for him. They're gonna go hunting. He wants to leave by five. Yeah, no, poblem, I'm coming in. So I get there about core to five. I go up change. It's what he got. He's I got the nozzle, Okay, got you? He leeve? He can't be out the door ten minutes minutes. You know what's happening. We catch a second job at three thirty two.
We pull up. Three thirty two has their line. They took their second line and laid it in the street for us when we pull up. We took the exposure. Couldn't wait to get ahold of him. Glenn anytime, if you early, relieve pal call me. I can't believe this, Thank god. That question from Kevin Brown. He's asking as a chief in Freeport, how do you feel, meaning you, Jules, when his company officer in the FDNY didn't do something he maybe agreed with can you read it
okay, in case I didn't come across the right way? Yeah, I see that. As a chief in Freeport, how do he feel when his company lost in the didn't do something? Oh? Yeah, sometimes I just also I had to bite my tongue when they you know, I would have done it, maybe something different. But you sit back and go, hey, I'm not the boce here, you know, I'm just a fireman. So yeah, that gotta be I guess we do, especially if you're a chief and then you go, you pull up to a job and then the
chiefs maybe doing something a little different than you might do. I know. But and that's a lot of rank to jump, you know. If you're a fireman, as you know, that's a little bit. If you're a lieutenant you can, or a captain at least you can go up to the chief. My wife asked a little time, you know, wantn't to take the test? Take the test? I'm like, why doesn't have to leave? Two thirty six? I don't want to leave. I thought I could end up in Manhattan. Yeah, I mean, God rest his soul.
Led Gavity after he got the Italian nine. We're at the Firehouse X Ball in Baltimore and he grabs me on the side. He asks me to be his aid July of two thousand and one, and I told him, I said chief, I said, I appreciate the offer, but I said, uh, you come you come back to three nine. I'll drive you in heartbeat. But I said that I'm not going to Manhattan. I said,
that's Hatton is in my cup of tea. I took some balls to turn him down as he brought you over man who I know it was hard, but yeah, you know Jimmy Garretty, Oh yeah yeah we worked with him. Yeah yeah, yeah. In fact, I came up from Delaware for his funeral. You know, did um what was gonna say? Who took over garretty spot when he left in the three nine? We had no no, no in uh in two thirty six, when oh, when he left as captain? Yeah it was uh. I think Kevin McCabe got him when
he when he left? What was it? You Mulligan like Camry Mumber? How many captains you go through it? There? Fella? God, we had you Mulligan, we had McCabe, we had Qwen, and I think I might have been one more. I mean about while I was there. I think there was two bosses went through there. Actually, now that you say that, but you were in that area for eight years, rough nine years, almost nine years. Yeah, that's a long time. I remember
the boss. There was a few lieutenants that went through there. I remember Pole Knappus was bouncing around when he got that spot. I remember I remember him because he used to bounce around. There was a few other people that ever loved. I got the composal until the Composi came in on that they had our spot open for the six months for training. Then after six months Composi comes in and he's like, hey, tonight's my last tour. What
do you mean your last tour? There was little Chief Peculiar. Captain mcuman just sent the paper over the Chief Keys that he wants to keep the spot open again. So I was a little annoyed. The Keys. I remember, Oh yeah, Kee, we had a lot of fun together. Yeah, me too. We had a few words now and then any finger on the broch like me man. He didn't like me allegedly. So I called m Q and at home, I'm like, Cap, what are you doing? I said, we worked with the guy, we liked the guy.
I said, nothing funny. When I said, as a senior guy, I think it would have came and asked me, you know what we think before you tell him we don't want him here anymore, because oh, you guys really want him. I said, yeah. So the Q and called the three to nine, talked to Keys and they threw the paper out, and Keys calls me to say, is your boys staying? That's how great? And two weeks later I get hurt. I'm out and you're out. That's where Cooks did to me. Come on back. I'm like, yeah,
all right, I'll come back. Listen, take care. What was great? Great? Sea? Yea right? Chief Daily was saying, Mike Lee, Oh yeah, Mike leave right. I could I forget Mike Lee. I'm speaking of finger poking. Chief Daly said, did not poke him? Well, your finger when your finger is shaking. Yeah, we had close. We had a couple of googles with Chief Keys. He didn't like some of my answers happened about that, but you're all about and I liked him, but he just he was a certain way. Just uh. I
mean in the end he's the chief. But oh yeah, well we we beat two in the quarter into one of the border boxes like Uclid in the sutter m hm, and pull up to the corner, flamed out the window, people yelling, you know, I pull up two in the quarters, fall blocks down. So week a week or so later with the firehouse, he comes in and he's like, you know, I was like two in the quarters upset. You know you japped them out of the box. I saiday, I said, you know I didn't come in that tour and say
hey, I'm gonna screw two and a quarter out of a job. And I said, you know we can't speed down Uclid heaving you blow the potholes. And I said, Chief, not the front, and change your tours. We know who's getting on our rig, and we're going change your tours because I've been down in the drive and everybody's figuring who's riding here, who's riding Yeah. So I finally told Keith Keys, you know you snooze your lose. That Billy Sider was the yate. He looked at me, He
looked at Keys and goes, just shook his head. He goes, I don't think the Chief one to hear that answer as well. That's the only hit I got for you. You know this, bok, this is Brooklyn, not the Bronx. Right, bron do right? I go, I got a couple of buddies up in the Bronx and I'm like, you got a kid, But he gave stopped and go ahead, come on. No no, no, no you go no, no, no, you know
what you you know what? You fucked my sister, you know. Yeah, I just actually I just spoke the Chief Coward a couple of days ago. I'm trying to get on the guy. Yeah, I went down. I went down one of the guys, one of the yates. Uh, the quarter got hurt and Howard Twam, the ex would come out to be the aid if Wolf two tours. They thought he wants to be out long term Rooney and I end up being the coming back and I end up going
back to two thirty six. But I had a pleasure driving keys a few times, a lot of fun with him Coward driving Chief Guaranty got drist of soul when he was down there. He'd call up a couple of times and see if I was working. Was the other one? I remember the chief? There was another was Chief Ellison, same last name. That was a pisser, Allison Ellison to drive to the quarter one night and a couple of guys on one or seven. They're like, hey, he says, Chief
fellows ands upstairs, he says relative. So I feel I'm also have some fun on my kids. My father, you kid me? I said no, I said, we try to keep it quiet, you know. So now we're coming down having dinner, so I'm like, hey, Dad. They said, uh, what are you going to be for Christmas this year? He goes, the same thing I got your last year? Fucking nothing. So that's why I like Mom best. These guys are sitting at a table going what the hell? I'm like, you know, I said,
because yeah, that's that's why I like mom best. So she'll take care of me now, like holy shit knows And we just cracked up laughing. They're like, what's so funny? Is it? The first time Adam when I worked here a couple of a couple of months ago, got my father. I called the us, going, dad, can I call you dad? Jimmy Ellison the senior. No no, no, no, no, jim Jimmy wasn't Ellison. He was Elson el Yeah, I forget Chief Elison's first name. God, but he was. He was a good guy.
I had a lot of fun with him. Southern so uh. My friend Billy Byrne said it was there was somebody else there too. I remember, I'm trying to remember who else was there. But I gotta I gotta say this story when I was chief for Freeport, when I was running for the chief, Ray and I talked about it the other day. He gets the kick out of it. I'm running for chief from Freeport in nineteen eighty five,
eighty six. I get the nomination for my company, which I was still to death one of the best compan me to Freeport, shout out the host company one Homeland Nighthawks, great great guys. Put me in for chief. So now I'm working for the village and the superintendent of the public works
grants me in the parking lot, like two weeks before the election. It's always says, hey, you know, I'll say here, you're running the chief, you know, good luck, congratulations, But just to let you know, he says, if you win the election, I don't think you're going to be going to all the calls. So I hooked, I'm Michael, what are you talking about? He's love. If you win, you know you don't have to go to all the calls. He says, there's no need for a chief to go to a dumpster fire or call fire.
I expect you to stay, you know, at work. I said nothing for that, but that's why I'm running for the chief or to go all the calls. So if a call kicks in, I'm going. And he just looked at me. I win the election. A week and a half later, nonsense call. I pull out of the DPW. But instead of going right out, I perfectly going around past his office. Thank you, sirons wait for even better if you flip the bird out the window. I can't believe you did that. Like, I just want to know. I
was responding to the well, maybe it doesn't know who I am. I'm the guy, I'm the chief. I don't know if you know who I am. Guys are like, oh man, it's like, yeah, funny, think about fireman. Gods. We had some other pictures in there, and we have some other a couple. Yeah, you want to go because I have him. What's the funny thing about fireman bro Day, they're always fine Day, They're always This is one of his last ones here two thirty
six before I have there with two thirty six. But we have to do the honors here and then pay a little well, we honestly say he's part of the crew. Bro, you know what that is forty three years. He's part of the I married up club. Good for you, good for you. Got she has technical skills because when I called him up as like where do I attach this two and a half? I have no idea? Yeah, he been like I hear you, hey, Joe, sign on to the prop and I'm telling her what lose tell me just I know,
I know. Oh she was getting mad at him. I'm like, all right, don't tell her anymore. That's it. Don't say anything else. I'm like, let's let's go go to the side. And took your phone up so that at least if we have the guy, let me tell you that's freaking hilarious. Guys. Grogan Grogan's photo saying force tube is always a good location when it comes in for a photo. Will fourth tube, what's that that was? That's a block over there. Force tube. What's tube?
That's a one way streak going the other way, but we'll go against traffic and we come off about good forty five seconds. It's like this. I love taking that going up there. That gave us a good shot to beating three thirty two. And every now and then, wait, we're not supposed to do They're supposed to let them and nift their first, right, Yeah you first, you last? Not first, you last, Ricky, Bobby, if you could read this, you and now second to uh,
well, how'd you wind up getting hurt? Bro? What hap banging my knee up? You? Yeah? Yeah, it's you know, surgery finally on the my knee torn. Minute gas and that was it. You had done. It was seventy five years old. I mean, what do you want to close? Keep laughing that point maybe he broke his episode. And yes, look at the nice job he called his house sup on the ice banging up against the rig. I charged one of those seven's tower and oh,
my yead, I guess it wasn't fully connected all the way. And they were screaming at me to shut them off, running back, and as I shut the thing off, my d just into the running board, and I'm like that that's gonna even mark right down next day. You didn't say, what the fuck? Hey, hey, okay, right ninety guys, you know, get out of the way on the floor. Drive those guys. We go up to a gas leak and I'm looking at my rear view
mirror and I got one of the threes on my real bumper. I'm saying to myself, if I have to stop for the emergency, they're gonna be in the holes bed no back. We get back to the firehouse. So that, like, dude, you've got to pick up the pace a little bit. I don't know the streets around here like I do, you know by two thirty six. So I said, you know what, you go for us next time, and I'll follow you. I'll follow you, baby. Just get me water. That's it. That's it. Get your water.
That's it. That's it. There was a picture with like a whole team of guys or something something. We have the group of guys with you. We have the X chief I'm sorry, his rookie chief story and if he wants to share that with who's that big guy in the middle there, Yeah, who's that big guy? Then the end of the guy guy dragging his knuckles. Nineteen ninety three. Man Chiefs is going away for a weekend. They were a ten and a horn about gone because we're gonna get a
norrista. And we told them go go, go, go enjoy yourselves. We got it. The X Chiefs will take care of the town. You guys go have a good, good fun. They left in the snowstorm Friday morning, going up state New York and the snow hit like unbelievable, and myself got the chief, the Hulski obviously able one knows, big gray Chief Holner over runner right there, and uh, Chief Kevin Nole. We'll get deputies for the weekend. And we had a blast. We had so many
freaking runs that weekend. It was all unbelievable. Where was this picture taking by the firehouse? No, in the park a lot of the Freequint High School. Wow, this looks like a spot for a picture. Yeah, everybody got We called Bill Bennett up. He came in took the picture for us. Bennett, he's Jimmy Graham saying John bell Navis. Who's John bell Navis? Oh not a good guy, not a good captain. Yeah, we had a lot of captains. I guess first froze up on this one.
Yeah, that was a cold January and Miller Avenue Freeport. My buddy Jerry Festa, we come out and h we gotta take a picture it if you guys iced up, I'm like, yeah, just a little bit fucking Hey. So when you say before, like ho is one and all that? Like where where is two eighteen? He has a two eighteen? Is that that's that's the truck company. They're on Church Street. That's handshakings and
newberries and Ray McGuire's company engine. Why didn't I have like such a large number on that, you know, you know what I'm saying, Like if you only have five firehouses, why do they don't have one two, three four or something like that? Oh? Someone have like in my place holds one. Some of the helmets, she'll say, hols one. Some have the county number two one one those two, and some have two one two. But some of them have two on eight or two one seven two one
seven Za Talaatta used to be the slorel and that's the county number. Yeah, the county. No, So you still live in the duels now I'm in Delaware. Oh, I've moved in Delaware and U twenty fifteen a house built here in the Middletown, Delaware, half hour south of the Delaware Bridge and half hour up the Dova Motor Speedway, right next to this guy. Come on, man, come on, man, come on man. There's
a lot of retired guys down there with you. Yeah, from what Gada, I got a lot of Uh So you got the New York City police officer. I got my cousin who's a free retired Freeport police officer. And uh, I'm sure there's a bunch of firemen down here. You know. Every once in a while I'll meet I met some old guy last year in the mall that that's when you were looking in the mirror. Yeah, I had a hat on, and he's talking about them all wrong from the Bronx.
So what are you doing up? Didn't we to see you with Syracuse? Yeah? What you make the trip just for Syracuse? Yeah? Well, I come up. I got the Free Pot like twice a month to help guys out, like all the meetings. All right, So I was gonna ask you, do you still see the guys in Free Pot? Yeah? I come up and U you know they go out and have a training. I'll go with him and you know, check things out and give them down. There is a paid down there, what is it? Uh?
The only paid department in the Delaware is Wilmington. Everybody else is volunteer. Really, but like my town, Middletown, they have a paid ambul in store to day, nighttime in store volleys from six to six. They have a paid AMBLEMCE. Tell you haven't stopped at the fire house at all, just twice in their firehouse. They their biggest fundraiser is their banquet halls. I walked into their banquet hall and you guys a little Long Island o a
call house. Yeah, I walked into their banquet hall in Middletown. I thought I was walking into the call house. I was like, Wow, Holy Christ, this is Oh yeah, heause we rent it out. I'm like, but just a fireman, Oh no, anybody who wants to rent it huh. I'm like, wow, this is freaking O. They pay for those new rigs. Bro, Hey, you know what you gotta do. Yeah, you're not taking any runs in there with them, right? Nah? You're not saying they back in the day is how he's doing.
Should we do it this way. You're not first, you last. Bro. Yeah yeah, oh bro. That's my little side job I do once a once a year down at Dover Motor Speedway. What do you do? I worked the gate my good best friend family Paul Russa, and another X chief of my company from Freeport. He uh, he started working in when he moved to Delaware when he retired from the school district, and he handled me for a couple of years before I moved, and I was like,
Nascar, No, I got no time for that. Suh. It's great, come on down, you know. He's nah. So as soon as I moved here in twenty fifteen, he told me, don't make plans for this week in October because you're already working. I already signed you up to work. Oh my god, you gotta be kidding me. But uh, I fell in love with it. It's uh, he sends A. Retired two years go, but I'm still down there working. We closed the main gate right by the start finish line, and and I've been there since.
I said twenty fifteen, we only have one race a year out the last couple of years. They took our second race in October and moved it to Nashville because they owned that track. Was the short track, right, that's the short one. Yeah, the Monster, mile miles the Monster. Do you get the drive that they you're just sitting in it that day. I just sat in. But we're working, uh in September October. That was
great. I got the working with the Rusty Wallace writing experience, and I saw working with them there shown us had to put the harnesses on to get people trapped. Trapped, yeah, strapped in and my last time they're working, you know, we're coming up again on October. There's October sitting there talking to one of their professional drivers. He happened to be a fireman up
by Cooperstown. So we sawed shooting the bowl about fared upon it and different things in New York City flared upon it nine to eleven and if one thing led to the nixt he finds it to me because you've been working with us for three years. But this Rusty Wallace, he says. As Jennifer River said anything too about hopping in the car and getting the ride along, I was like, no, is Well broad stays, you're lucky day, go go suit up, grab a helmet. When I get done with this guy.
I'm taking you for six laps. You know what. They asked me twice boom, get up. He got in like gott in the car. They strapped me in one hundred and fifty miles an hour. It was like freaking awesome. I got videos. I did the first lap and a half. Hold my phone video that I find it. They held it. I had to hold on, but I made turn three. I could have stuck my hand out and touched the wall. That's all close. We came to the wall. It was rocking experience. She just said, yeah, but
it's how we do it. In ninety's coming up on the left. Us hold on a minute, what get used to do you get used to that? Like by the fifth time, do you feel like like I can't imagine I do seventy miles an hour? Eighty miles an hour, right, I feel like that's fast. You could tell like, what is it like to do one hundred and fifty like it? I tell you, I thought I was gonna be a little close to fall book at first getting in that car, and you know, yeah, but it was like you're just driving.
You know, it's weird, but it felt great. It's like, you know, and he goes, I would love to go a little bit faster, but you know, he says, they got the drive in a set and you know, I could have hit the switch, but he goes, goff had been a hit the switch and I would have gotten an accident. You in the car. I got a job, Liabel. Right, Yeah, what how fast is that? How fast did they go? When are they going two hundred one eighty? Where did they go? I think they
usually around one eighty? Yeah? Yeah, don't you a mile track allegedly? Yeah, talladega, I think that they're probably hitting cloth to two track. How is it like when he's going into the like, so you get the straight away over there. It's really not much of a straight away, right you just yeah, mile track it so you know, I mean he floors it like then he you know, you hear him come off and we're
probably doing the turns probably one hundred. So he comes off, then he and right back and wraps it back up, then comes down, revs up, comes down. So you're doing that during during the course of a race. How many times freaking doing that? Right? It's crazy? Oh my god? One hundred miles. So the race. Yeah, and then imagine happened like other cars you were you were all alone on on the track, right obviously, No, there's there's people who will pay the drive. We
were passing them like they were standing still. Get a couple of them, you know, that's dangerous, you know about passing on Holy Christ, you know, but that's pretty wild man. And then well, yeah, we had one guy hit the wall. One of the guys were driving just before that. He was complaining that the call was going fast enough for him, and they're like, yeah, it's it's gone, you know, so what and he takes off and two laps ladies from Star Turn three hit the wall
and I was I was doing my health cats two hundred. Don's gonna find out when he comes. We go, let's go, we go, Moses bro Well going out on the Robert Moses will be doing two hundred. I mean, all right, I got okay, I got one last one for you. Here. Share a little story with this guy while we're talking about the track stuff. There you go. Joey LOGANOA, yeah, yeah, you once you saw it working east. When I first started there, I didn't know anybody. I'm like, who's that guy? Who's that guy?
Now? Being the essence sevent eight years now, you recognize who they are, you know. So they're walking around, you see him, You're like, hey, you know, he was standing behind me. I was doing something. I turned around. I'm like, hey, Sully again, how about a photo? He goes go for a pal. What what are you actually doing there, Jules? What are you actually working? Right at the start finish line, there's a there's a big gate that we have to close.
They can't start the racings. So the gate is closed and the officials come out. We have to tie it shut. What all the big cuts and stuff, kind of like the Bronx tail seat. Now you just can't leave. You can't from the dome. We have a lift. My son works to lift the street guys up the lift to do the top ties and then they get paid eighty two dollars an hour to put zip ties on the
fence. Yeah I wish it was. Yeah, it's pretty cool. You're not doing that for the money man, You're just looking to be that right, That's it. I love experience. Good for you. There's no better run. You can get a KNA card. There's no better rush. Though, when you used to show for two thirty six, right, bro, I mean, come on, I missed that the most. Tell me about it. Yeah you know, yeah, that was a lot of fun. Let me tell you. Let me ask you. A lot of guys say
the same thing. I talked to a lot of the Tide guy. Do you have dreams that you get a run and you can't find your bunk? Agear? Do you No, I don't have dreams. Not holy shit, I must talk. I'm gonna say about seventy five percent of guys have the same dream that I have, that you get a run and you can't find your bunk again, you can't find put it on. Not too long ago, one of my buddies said the same thing he did. I heard him somewhere. I couldn't remember who heard it or where it came up, but
now you reminded me. But yeah, it was he had the same, very similar dream dreaming. I talked a lot of tie guys and they say the same ship. The bells go off and they go to put the button, they can't find it. I don't know what that means, gonzo, could you look that up. I'll work on a Fini show. Good answer. I'm gonna on you good answer. I like my first night tool. I'm two twenty four, my first night tool working. The captain tell the see you guy, Hey says, keep an eye on jewels if we get
something in the middle of night. You know. He gets up looking at the captain hooks. What to worry about be getting up? I've been doing this for sixteen years already laughing. I said, yeah, I'll be up with the tones. You know what, I've never asked this question, Roofie, have you ever slept to a run? Never? I only I missed I quote unquote mister run uh in one seventeen they had the radio blasting and all the guys were in the kitchen, probably allegedly doing what they were doing.
And I was sitting in in the TV room, but like right every little lights were on. It was it was like seven or eight o'clock. They were cooking dinner. And the beeble went off and the guys didn't grabbed me like I think they did it just to break my balls. Like I came back, but it was like a pull box or something. But that's the only run I ever missed. What about you, Jewels? Wow, I missed one. We just came back, came back from him at two
thirty six, well quarter to five in the morning. I went back up to the bunk them when I must have been out like a light. They said ten minutes later they had the run and they I didn't hear nothing. I heard him when the door opened. Coming back in, I was like, holy shit, slide the poll. I like, thanks for joining us. I mean I have had runs where I was in bed, but the guys would come grab me, you know what I mean, Like, I mean I could have possibly missed a run, but they never when you were
in an office. I mean yeah, when I was officer, like, guys would come up, you know, I'd hear it on the bitch box, you know, like they rough, we gotta run, you know, something like that, you know coming down. Yeah, actually, well it was one of those. It slept through. Partial of it where dispatched. When the phone rings in the middle of the night, you know something's not right. So we had one when I was captain. I was like,
oh, some of a bitch, where is it? You know, of course you would panic mode because you're already two or three minutes behind the a balla. I never missed the run. But I gotta say the only time I ever to the lieutenant, I was driving Lieutenant Todeshi sprained his ankle or broke his ankle on a run, so I was acting officer. And don't you know it, we have one run and a fucking guy misses the run.
Yeah, I'm not gonna say his names. One job I had that two twenty four and I was lieutenant got hurt and I was four years on the job and I was a senior guy. But like you let the sea, the fanning comes in until you know another boss comes in. I'm praying, Oh my gosh, just give me something you know about an allie. We get a call far in the b que. I jumped in the front seat, Dan Taney, the chauffeur. He looked at me, big smiles, physic because you've been waiting for this all day. Yeah, I did
you fucking know it? I see, let's go shrill. I do have one last photoph you guys, when I know I mentioned I brought up at the beginning, I don't know if you wanted to touch on it one last time. I know we talked about brig Ray. I don't know none of those guys, so I don't know if he gragged me into that photo.
That is soccer you really Roughie Ray Ray Okay, Le's gonna say Ray McCormick, McGuire, Clett and the other guy I think is the chief from whereas for Baltimore maybe Yeah, I don't know those two guys next to Ray Roughy. We just saw him in Uh he was with soccer is a pistol. He's going to his seminars. Yeah, he's good dude. Man Oh soccer. Yeah, they're gonna have one out in Seldon and h m hm September ninth. What's that simular out in Seldon Fire Department? It's going to be
Norman Soccer and Richardson. Have you hit his? H We just uh, we just drafted the Norman for a show on Stampipes, right Roff, Yes, I got a clomb as a matter of fa yep, yeah, saw him saw him and Saracuse real quick, great guy. Yeah, Yeah, a little controversy around uh some stuff we were talking about, right roof. But the Stampipes, Yeah, I like contropresy, do you the Stampiper never introduced? What was that? Where's the picture of the two thirty six guys?
Gon. I only uh, the ones that we had a picture. No, the other ones that I have, well, the ones supping in the email, the two maybe I didn't send that picture, and then the other ones like all right, so that's that's I stalked less Facebook. Pick where are all those classic cars that you have pictures of you go to car shows? Is that what that? Those cars? Yeah? All down by me since I've been here in Delaware. It's like once the spring hits sometime,
it's like every other weekend. And some of them it's the same same people, same cause, right, But the city of an all excuse me, do you have any old cause yourself what it needs? Like? Yeah, I got and all the firehouses down in Delaware. I've been to a couple for different things, and they all have one bay aside for a classic rope around for one of the classic fireman. It's one of their old old time pieces either hand hand held. It's like wow. And then they got
their own little private little room for it. That's pretty cool. Well, you can do that when you have, you know, when you don't pay that much for a property. Do you know what I'm saying. I was just gonna misside taxes in New York you do right? Oh yeah, and no sales tax that kills me. No sales tax, you know? On man, come on man, you did you? Come on, man, come on man, come on? Oh on that what did potty lee? Right? I missed that? What did Yeah? I was before? What
was it? Scary? It was scary? Way we came down street over the Nash says you, I want to hit your garbage cans. I was aiming for him brout people with garbage cans. And I have somebody sent me this a little bit on the squad today delivered a couple of babies. Yeah, I saw it at this morning on Facebook. Yeah. Wow, nice. You know it's not Father's Day. Actually, I don't think I know. I don't think I know one of those guys there. Oh but Dane is Jamain? You got bones? Where's he's on the left, all the
way left? That's Dane McCoy. You got what? So I forgot another guy? Yess? I know that I see him up close enough to uh, I could probably pull him up on the phone a little bit better. Oh wow, good job, brothers. Is a matter of fact, you have the twenty five year Every year you're coming up right roof in July, it is yes, you go back to two three? You know anybody actually
we have the twenty no right now? Probably now that's crazy. I mean I got this couple of Freeport guys now in two thirty six we got a breakfast and on the twenty third this week, uh and Seaford huh post thing. I think they got like forty five guys going, I'm gonna go down nice. Nice. You gotta have the five stories before we get to the old Joels. Anybody else you wanted to talk about anything? Are you? You're totally out of the fire service? Then totally up for the most yeah
not yeah, no doing all of that stuff. You just come to hang out with those salty dog guys to get in salty guys. Why don't you teach? Why don't you do any of that stuff? I don't know. I've kicked it around a few times. You did it back in night you too. Look at that guy looking at that when it was brown labor saving yummy? But now what do you have to lunch? She was hold on it. It's a linguini with what to climb myself? A beautiful thing. Let's now look at it. Look at it, Look at it. Wow,
have a damn. I'm gonna damn. He is due. He is, look at him laughing at himself as well. Man, how can this should not be funny? You gotta us it's funny. It is funny. It's funny, all fun it's good stuff, all right. So let's get to the old school tip of the day. Hold on a minute. We gotta tea him up. Are you ready, Jewels, you got your hold on? Wait, wait, we gotta we gotta do it properly. You're ready, guns, I'm ready. Hold on, It's time for little too
tip day day out there. Dump the tank. You don't need hydrate water. You can dump the tank, fire from the gallons, put a lot of fire out before you get water from the hydrant. Plain and simple. We gotta dumped the tank. Makeup. Make sure they know they're on if you tell you you got tank water, if you dump the box, dumped the tank tank, That's what I'm saying. And then just let them know
when they're on hydrant. You're here. I'm gonna add Can I add something that jewels sure, something that I used to do once I dumped the tank and get a hydro water. I just pull that fucking day, and I make sure I feel the tank backed. Application lose it. That's it, fle tank cat forbid. You lose the hydrant. You still got five on the gallons to get your brothers out. Excellent day. You you something good that was on Garrow's big thing. Can you remember that? Cools? Yeah,
got into a locks on the pickture table three in the morning. I think he was just testing. I'd be said that at three o'clock in the one like this, every every bucket, every lock you could have locked, you would never see. Right, he had him in a five gallon pail and you have to tell him all about it and how you get it or how hundred or at least yeah, right, And I think he used to call the drill a three o'clock in the morning on purpose. Chief Daily said
the same thing. Remember to refill the tank in case you lose the water. Yeah, amens. I love engine guys, great job, excellent and two thirty six guys, that's what he loves. I tell you. I see, I knew it was good right now. Thirty six would have been my spot, would have been my spot if I had a choice, would love to have you too. Oh man, let me tell you, we would have had fun. Could have went there from Phobe School. But hey, you got there. That's all that mattered. That's it. Happy to
get there. Yeah, I loved every minute of it. They still don't work over there. You know. I stopped by there about two three years ago. I stopped in there and the first cable turns the rig and looks around. He looks at me, and I'm like, I used to work here. No idea who this guy was. I was just senior guy. He was like, who's this ald timer in here? Bantom? So let me go into y'all stop the fire something that. I'm like, hope the
combinations are saying, any hippies moving in over there? What's that? Any hippies moving in over there? By two thirty six, I don't know. There doing a lot of building go around there, right, there was a lot of There was a lot of lots over by that area. Oh yeah. Across the street now and down with the stores, you know, the deep on them on and I got more stores. I'm like, oh when they put this stuff up? Yeah crazy. I know. Every once a
while coming in if I get stuck in traffic. I'll get off at Pennsylvania and take the back the weeks in New York and then go back onto the conduit to get back on the belt. And I'm like, wow, where did this come from? Yeah? Do you believe they built buildings on those two lots on Sheffield and Lavonia? Can you imagine that? I know, like big buildings, like who the heck is gonna? I don't know.
I retired. I was there on the roster one night. I decided to go over there for the truck and the little kid comes back to the back window. Hello mister firemans in the window and going, what the hell? They built the places right behind you, right right behind but the lot behind the firehouse next to there was two lots to the firehouse, and across the street they built they built a big building next to the track. There's a
vacant neighborhood. Yeah, yep, much wanted to be made now. All right, So we got, like I said before, we got Frank Lee coming on Thursday night. You got questions met him? Just met him in Syracuse Coop's podcast at gmail dot com. Or you know, if you want to buck up a few bucks on Thursday night, you got something important to say. Say it? Yeah you shout outs rough, Nope nothing yeah guns. No, I'm just happy, belated fora Thursday. To all the pops
out there, excellent, Hope, thanks for coming on the show. Bro. We really finally got him. We got him. Thank you, guys. I really appreciate it. I was shocked when Louke grabbed me. I was like me, you gotta go grab you. It depends on where we grab you. If you yeah, well I will ever see a horsepit me over. I was shocked. Oh all right, don thank you, Jules. We will see you Thursday night. Until then, stay low and go all right, everybody, we'll see it the big one. Al Right, guys, have a good night.