The Unpacking

and then blame it on us. Don't get it twisted on code and me and dancing for no buttament biscuits. It's Willie d y'all scar faces in the building. Collectively we are the ghetto Boys, reloaded with another episode of information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world in the studio Ghetto ghet On ghet old boy, what's up? Kay? Now? Why you are you taking ships

so personal? Man? I can't, I can't, I can't. I like like you were talking about how you want to you you're talking about how you wanted to be shot from the chest up here. You know how you don't want me eating a sunflower season. Um. Well, you know, people people pay for to watch us with their time, and you know they have a lot of sunflower seeds

where they have a lot of options. You know, they have a lot of options some flower seeds, really And when people listening to our podcast, you know, they want to hear clarity. Man. They don't want to be distracted by somebody chewing ice and it and and busting up sunflower seeds in their mouth and all that kind of sky. You know, we have an obligation to the people. Okay, well, thanks for clarifying that ship absolutely absolutely well, happy happy

um happy Monday, Happy happy, happy Monday man. And uh you know, you know what kind of bitter sweet because on one hand, you know, I think the biggest thing out happening right now is the mare Hamlet's situation. Man that was cold blooded by man. That was bad. But the beautiful thing is that he's still with with us.

Condition Yeah, but he's still with us, Willie. So you know, I've been coaching football for a long as soon and I cannot imagine um, a little kid getting hit standing up and then dying and being resuscitated and then dying again to be resuscitated again. I mean they pull, they pull the things out. Brother, that is fucking devastating, Willie. Have you ever seen something like that before somebody make a hit? Never? And then no, no, I have never

seen that. Well I've seen some good Um, I've seen some good stuff on football fields, you know, some good hits. But I have never seen nobody, you know, um injured to that capacity and that that that man, that's actually actually that's scary. Man. It's making me rethink my career in football coaching. I read do some ship that's non contact now, like baseball or basketball or something. Man, that's scary, Willie.

You know, but you know, and I gave that a lot of thought because you know, growing up I played football, I boxed to very dangerous sports. But nobody I can't understand what you're saying that some people have boxing, but nobody could tell me different when I got out earlier enough, man, because I knew that that would be imminent, I had

no clue. But but man, um, I'm thinking, you know, this kid, these kids are on the football field, and something as devastating as a kid having to be resuscitated, yeah, right in front of their eyes, right there. Live and somebody says and not in these words, but the show mus go on. Yeah, I mean, do you think that was taking out of context at all? You thought he said what he meant? He said what people people interpreted? How the fucking you? How you saying? How can you

mean anybody else? Let's find exact words. I know the exact words. That's not what he said, That's not what he said verbatim, But that's what the funk he meant, Willie, and I guarantee you we'll go ahead and read it, man, because I don't want to jump togun, but I know what, I know what he meant. Okay, here's here's the tweet as the tweet he said in that particular tweet. Um, no doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of

this game. But how this late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular season outcome to the crucial to the regular season I come, which suddenly seems so irrelevant. So it seems like to me, not don't hear me out? You know, I'm hear me. I'm absolutely no fan of Skipped Bailey's I don't like the dude. I don't believe he likes us. Okay, so, but but I'm not a fan of him. Right. But when I read this tweet, uh, I'm reading this tweet

like people are hearing what they want to hear. Because of the messenger. We know he has a history of saying things that are out of pocket. He has a history of getting out of pocket. But if that was any doubt what he meant. At the very end, he said, which sudden least seems so irrelevant. It seems out come of the football season. He said, it seems irrelevant. He said, suddenly seems irrelevant. And to me, it just died on

the football bail. But then, but then also you look at the tweet, this tweet before that, and he said, nothing is more important. Let me see, um, let me get this out of here. And it's weird trying to look at this thing. Okay, he said, damn, can you pull this thing up? Just down? Phone tripping, man. I don't think it's the phone. I think it's the phone. You would think that, why you know why you would think that because you are the barrier of doom. I'm

the barrier of doom. Uh hey, okay, he said, nothing the problem is they've got something something that's on top of it's like you know how they put that film on top of these these uh damn I understand. But nonetheless, Willie, nonetheless he's um, he's he's he's always had a um a disdain when it came to um the black athlete bro in my opinion, all right, because like I was saying earlier, if it hadn't been Baker Mayfield or uh Tom Brady or you know, he would have wanted he

would have wanted the whole season stopped. Oh if it had been Tom Brady. Yeah, these guys should have stopped playing football. They should have all got in their car and went home. Exactly. Yeah. No, man, we're not buying that ship from you skip and and and and and you know, going back to all of that ship that that that you say, and and and and those um uh fews that you have with um the big homie Shannon, I just think you're a piece of ship, bro, And

I think that that needs to be addressed. Shannon, Ain't your big homie? You older than Shannon? That motherfucker bigger than me, big, big, big, bigger than you. Size has nothing to do with stature. You know you that you got those stripes. It does it? So you mean to tell me that, Well, I can't give him a pass, bro, I cannot give Skip a pass for that. No, I'm I'm not trying to give him nothing, you know, I'm just saying what it is. He's just always saying some

fun up ship. He told Shannon Sharp that he's not that good. Mother you ain't playing? Has Skip ever playing it down the football? Where as he ever played down? But has he ever played? And then you're talking about you're not as good as him? He's great, right? Fuck you, Skip? Fuck you and Shannon can't say that, But I came in fuck you and every man that defends you. Fuck you're talking about he's a better football player. He ain't took no motherfucking hits. He he ain't had to. He

ain't had that boy stop that ship skill. He might have been a sacked a few hundred times. But we're talking about taking some fucking hits. M hmmm. We're talked about coming across that middle. And but at the end, what he said prior to that tweet that everybody is dragging and for he actually said that I'm praying for the young man and in his family. That's what he said. That's what he said prior to and he followed up with the other tweet, not this is what I think happened.

Let me let me champ share my theory. This is what I think happened. I think in an effort as him him being a journalist and an effort to be the first one to to say something that you know, could get a bunch of likes or whatever. He he didn't pay attention to. He didn't read the room. He didn't read the room. And then and and that's the thing about text messages, electronic communications. They don't have personality.

So you got you can't You don't have the benefit of watching somebody, listening to somebody's tone, watching their facial expressions, that their their disposition. It's just the words. And so a lot of times words get taken out of context. That Willie, what did I say? I heard you, But listen to what I'm saying to you. Though. The man was um in another heated discussion with with with with sharp and he said he's not gonna take you down.

What what what he did you talk about recently? Right? Yeah, just saying it on TV, right, now he's not gonna take what down. You're not gonna take that tweet down. I was looking at something on on my phone and Shannon Sharp was was was talking about the incident and he said, and uh, Skip made a tweet that I hope he's gonna take down, and he jumped in pop on the mother nine, I'm not gonna take it down. Let me ask you this, if you tweeted out something

that was insensitive, hold on, go ahead. If you tweeted out something that you thought was not insensitive, if you thought it was not insensitive, if you thought you were right and everybody else thought you were wrong, would you stand on it? It depends. It depends on what's involved. If I called um, if I if I called um Skip Bayless a fucking noodle, well I take that down. If everybody said that that was sucked up an insensitive No.

But if I call Skip Bayless a noodle and he and he fucking he lost one of his kids or some ship, and I was, you know, just being real hard, I pull that down because that's that would be extremely insensitive on my part. So it's intention that's intentional militian being, that's intentionally being malicious if I take it down. No, I'm saying if you was to say something like that knowing that his kid had died, that's different. It's totally different,

you know, I think, I think intent it's everything. And like I like I said, you know, I went in on him when he when he you know, said he said about and before that. I don't like Skip Bayless at all. But I'm gonna call a striker striking and ball the ball man, and I just don't believe that. I do believe that people took what he said out of context. What I like to see, uh, what I like to see him canceled. Absolutely. I don't like him. He's not he's saying something about some black I don't

think they're going to cancel him. I mean, I mean, he's down for you know, he's a company man. You know, they hired him to do what he do. He's doing exactly what they want him to do. You know, even with creating the controversy, you know, that's part of that, that's part of the whole narrative. I'm not a fan of Skip Bayliss, but I don't believe that he made that tweak with ill intent. That's what I'm saying, and

I do believe. Now, now here's the thing, my side of answering that same question that I opposed to you. You know, if I felt like what I said, what's the right thing, and if everybody was against me, would I leave it up? Well, here's the thing. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna go right back with you. But what you said, it depends, It depends, It depends. Its absolutely, it absolutely would depend um and and and I don't I don't know what's in dues heart. I don't know

what in regards to that particular incident. But I can tell you this, if in that situation, that exact situation, had I made that comment and people felt something that type of way that they feel about it, I would have taken that particular tweet down. Okay, I would have took it down to especially like, well, I'm just a different breed. But that was very very in my opinion, really, that was very insensitive. Man. That man took a hit that through his heart be off to the point where

he fucking died. H But you have to understand a lot of these people that work in journalism, that work in the media, man, they don't have the heartless. If they don't, they don't have a heart. A lot of people that work in they don't have heart, and they pretty much don't the heart ain't really required to do what they do. If they had a heart, they wouldn't cover they wouldn't say half the things that they say. You know, Now, obviously there's always an exception to the rule.

That's always some good people out there that are in journalism. That's some good people that are fighting the good fight every single day, and I applaud them. But you know, for the most part, man, if you want to advance in media, I mean, you're gonna have to be a company man or a company woman. You're gonna have to take your watching artists and you know, shut up and and dribble. Ain't Willie. I don't know, bro, I can't just shut him and dribble dribble. I know I'm gonna

talk some ship. I'm gonna talk to that man. Yeah voice Relogi podcast when she right back after the poet, but to to talking about some some uh some malicious and and uh ill shit, what's up with your boy man with the chicken on the ground and serving the in wait hold up time out what the fucking mouse running around the house. Hey man. They were saying something about that restaurant being associated with you, Jordan's Fish and Chicken,

Jon's Fish and Chicken and Indianapolis, Indiana. Y'all need eat y'all asses, I mean every single employee owner, y'all need y'all asses. Whooped. I mean to the white meat fam they serving people food off the ground. Well I don't, I don't. I don't like off the floor. They's they got, the food is in past. They got the food in past, and it's on the floor. Why is it on the floor.

Because they're uncivilized. That's why it's on the floor. They're uncivilized, and they don't care anything about the people that they served that's in that community. So that's why they need to get the funk out. Absolutely So listen, uh, ladies and gentlemen, do not um patronize these um restaurants in your neighborhoods that don't have your best interests and your health at at. Let's let's make sure that we specify this particular restaurant because from what I understand, this restaurant

actually jacked the name of another restaurant. Actual franchise. They jacked the name. It's the nationality and the people that were in this restaurant. And you don't, mommy, ask their foreigners. I don't know what the nationality is, but don't go and do that. One guys that place, but there are foreigners. And the address is seventy North Post Road in a nap town, Jordan's Fish and Chicken. It's shut down for the time being. It should have to pass an inspection.

But I'm like, my, why why do they have to pass shut down at and? And they should go to jail man. The owners need to be executed. The people who even worked at they have some culpability in this also. They shouldn't just get a path has to say you know, hey, I'm just following the instructions, you know, kind of like you know what what the Nazis did, right, Like, oh, I'm just following instruction. I'm putting people in this oven

because they told me to. Now you have some culpability that you have to have some humanity, You have to have some sense of civility and responsibility for your actions. The people who work there should also be held accountable. But you know what they all that all might be

one family. Will you imagine how many people got sick over the years going to that place and probably didn't really realize that it was because they went that to eat food parson and food parsoning kills more people than anything. Food the stuff that you put in your body. And if that stuff is not right, yeah, you know it's there. It's already genetically altered. That's a problem already. But then

genetically altered, well, they putting chemicals and stuff food. Yeah, and so so besides that, you have people who are serving your food off the floor on a inside of a rat infested building, and they're stepping over the food as they're serving you and taking orders. They're actually stepping over the food. Bro stepping over the food serving people was the food was the food covering up with the food wasn't covered. It was just down. It was just on the floor, on the floor. It was on the floor.

Because they are uncivilized people. People will no, Willie, you have to be on slas to do something. Really, Listen, man, did they not have tables in this place? I didn't see anything, So it's just they they had nothing to put it on, so just put it on the floor where they you know, they got a restaurant, they got a popping restaurant, and they're making money. I think they can afford they can afford a cash register, They can

afford the table. You know, if they can afford a whole pan full of chicken, they can afford the table. I think that those people men who run those restaurants in our neighborhood shouldn't be there in the first place, because they have no they have no respect, passion, respect for nothing for us, you know. So I I vote that that that that everybody stopped going to that place. Stop going to those places where people don't respect your dollar,

or they follow you around the fucking stoy, go somewhere else. Bro. The sad part is, BRO, is that we cannot convince the people who still attend these places, who still patronize these places, any different. Man. I know something so something so he cool. We can't we can't get someone so ain't cool. So and so so and so got you eating off the fucking floor. You know, they're not nice people. And I want everybody to to to to listen and hear me when I say this, man, They're not looking

out for you. They just want your dollar. They don't give a funk about your health, because when you die from heart disease or diabetes or kidney failure, whatever the funking is, the person that comes behind you was gonna be their new customer, and you just you just a number, like please, y'all, please patch up. Let's patch up and start putting some businesses in our neighborhoods that um that

reflects us. If the people look really, if the people that are in those stores don't look like you, then you shouldn't spend your money there. Well said, I ain't got no problem with that, and shouts out to the brother who filmed it. She was talking side to you, brother, shot side to you, man, you're doing God's work, and shot side to the sister who pointed the damn rat out like he's like, yeah, you see nothing. Yeah, yeah. He wasn't even bother that. The rat was not bothered

that they were in his presence. He's like, what y'all doing here? Like y'all, I don't I'm gonna was coming over here at least pass and they and these uh trains on the floor and get my mother fucking lunch and y'alling trimping. They was selling chicken and red soup. I have I have a friend that makes gumbo. Right, wow, I have a friend that makes gumbo. Well, I'm not gonna say that makes gumbo. We're kind of gumbo flying gumbo with flying shrimp, flying shrimp. Huh. I believe that

way it said. But yeah, anyway, that was fucked up. But I was looking at um at the news this morning and early and we still have not well, they still have not chosen or speaker for the House with it. After three or four cycles of votes they haven't chosen. So what do you think it's gonna happen? I honestly believe that they're gonna sit there and mother Fun's just gonna just get tired and just go ahead and put um McCarthy. Yeah they're not they're not. Uh, Jeffries, he

has no chance. And they just brought another guy. His name is Um Byron Byron, Oh shit Byron something to Donald Byron, Donald black Republican. He's not gonna make it. So they're just gonna keep going to the vote and then people are gonna get tired and they're gonna choose McCarthy. How good of a job do you think, Nascy Pelosi did I did. She not doing a good job at all? Motherfuck a lock? He got tired of say many so Nancy Pelosi, Um, you know what I text? Whennot I

didn't text. I posted on Instagram when they talked about her hitting the gable for the first for the last time, for the final time, I said, job not well done. Yeah, you can't win, Williams. We can't win, bro. You know, um, regardless of who's the Speaker of the House, Willie, we're still gonna be faced with the same ship exactly. Okay. Uh, the Republicans is gonna want you to keep your money and the Democrats are gonna want to take away your money. So if you got some money or you don't have

any money, it doesn't matter. You know, she's not gonna it's not gonna work out well for for this group of people, or it's not gonna work cout well for that group of people. But somebody's gonna get fucked every time. So no matter what, at at the minimum half of America, it's going to taking all pretty much, and and and and you know what, the black people in America is gonna keep an l I hear a lot of people talk about we need to get our own political party.

Black people need to have their own But what does that mean is that it's a political party that is headed by black people, made for black people, for black people. So is that gonna is that the candidate are we just gonna hold our vote and and and they're gonna to come see us? You know what? But I think that's the way, bro, to hold our vote, to hold block those votes. Do a block vote, Like, listen, this is what this is what will happen if you really think by they just got a block vote. But I

don't even think they got a block. They vote, they vote, they vote, they vote in block blocks. Do you see how they're coming in and they're getting in these political seats now they're starting to their infiltrating. Brother, they're getting in and they are blocking their votes. They're holding a

whole block. And so if we imagine that we had you know, I don't know, eight million votes, Let's say we just had eight million, ten million votes, and we just held on those ten million votes, we're still you're screwed. Let's say we had ten million votes, a block of ten million votes, that's our bargain and chilled and we say, yo, if you won't these ten million votes, we'll give them to you. But you're gonna have to do this, this this.

At the end of the day, all of these seats will the same amount of power, no matter if a Republican sits in that seat or a Democrat sits in that seat. It wiels the same amount of power and influence and the same and it's got the same paycheck attached to it. And I mean, you know, it ain't about the paycheck. It's about paycheck. It's about the money and the power and the influence that comes with that check, that comes with that chair. So this is what they're

fighting over. They're not fighting over humanity or the good of humanity or for the good of humanity. They're fighting for money and power. And that's why we still continue to have to deal with the things that we deal with because many of us really just don't really understand that that's really what it's about. It ain't about you're trying to do the good do a person trying to do the right thing. They're gonna do what's right by you based on what you give them. It's a it's

an exchange of goods and services. Yeah. But when they when you get them in there, man, they don't know you. Yeah. But what I'm saying is, but what I'm saying is that when you get them in there and you're backing it up with that block and you and you also backing it up with money, they know the hell out of you. They know you very well. We're not gonna get that. You're not gonna get that without playing the money game. You're not gonna get that without blocking those votes.

Because we got too many people that's willing to go solo. There's too many people that can be bought out, you know. So it's got to be a code. It's gotta be it's gotta be a code established. And you've got too many people that's off code, that like being off code because you know, they actually liked the idea of the division. You know, you got the self loading folks out there. You know the coconuts. You know, the coconuts are dangerous.

The coconuts are very dangerous. Man. I wish it was a way, Excuse me, I wish it was a way that we could vote on. We didn't need a House or a Senate to vote for us. We voted for ourselves. So when ship came up, we voted on it ourselves. You know what I mean? Like that that that reparation Bill Man, that ship shouldn't have to go to the House. I'll go to the Senate. That ship should go to the people, like right now, you know what I mean?

And and and and the the Supreme Court has so much power in this country until you know, they can sign a signature and and we're back in slavery really, And that's what we're not taking in consideration. Since everything that we have granted to us by this UH country was issued by and agreed to by a judge for us to have it. So if they can overturn ship, they can overturn us being free. You see what I'm saying. That's that's that's that's the reality of it, and we're

not looking at it that way. They can. They have that kind of power. And until we can uh ta control of our own destiny and put our put the right people, our uh elected officials in that that have our best interests at hard, we're gonna always be subjected to that type of ship happening. You know, if they can stop, if they can overturn a Roe V. Wade or overturn affirmative action, or just imagine what they could do to slavery, I mean, uh, to black people when

it came to putting them back in captivity. Mario cut the agoniztion off. Just imagine what they could do when when? When? When? When? Without freedom? Bro? So let's just say it went down. Let's see the wheels fell off and it went down, and they say, okay, it's the return to slavery. Come on, Brad, let's go. You're going Are you what you gonna do? I'm gonna die? Why are you gonna die? You're gonna kill I mean, I'm just saying they're gonna they're gonna

kill me. I'm gonna kill first. Oh yeah, I'm gonna get on the man. I might die, but I'm gonna killing mocking asks like you know, like you wouldn't believe. But I already know what they do to runaway slaves. And then they'll probably hang me out down there city Hall where every motherfucking body can see me, so they won't get no bright ideas. What do you think it's worse like being a runaway slave risking getting caught and then and lynched. Are just Okay, who is that? Who?

What's what's that show? Is that good ass? A good asser family? Few good as it's cold bloody Willie were. We've been granted all of our rights by Judge bro By.

Judge A judge said it was cool for us to be able to sit here together today and do this podcast and and and the and these people listen to us, because at the stroke of opinion, all this ship could be overturned, and and the pole he could come to a slave patrol to come and lock our ads back up, and and um lock our adds back up and sell us off to the people that want to buy us. I want to kill us, you know, I want us

to work their ship for free. And like I say, until we get the economics, the money and put people in place that can stop this ship from happening. And I ain't talking about this is gonna be real funed up for me to say this, but I can't. I can't hold that back with it. And we're gonna get canceled. Man, when you stop saying that, she ain't gonna be no canceling. Okay, So then this is so bad? Why does I think that the people that are in control that make the

decisions don't have our interest at heart. You know what I'm saying that's supposed to being man she black, oh man he black, you know, but they're so disconnected from our community because of where where they've been laying voice reloaded podcasts will be right back after the point where do you think it's worst systemic racism or individual racism? Systemic? Absolutely? Yeah.

Racism is everything you do, is everything that you try to do, you have something guarding you, guarding you and and and holding you back from getting that done because of the color of your skin. Period. Yeah, it's structural. It's people. It's individuals who wake up every day trying to figure out how they can move that goal post more to hold us back, to stop us from scoring.

And and what I what I cannot understand for the life of me, is that how someone don't understand that if if black people are winning, America is winning, Like we make up a large percentage of America, not third, not percent, We're probably somewhere closer to thirty percent. We've been stuck on. I ain't never seen nothing stuck on thirteen or any kind of percentage for an entire three or four decades. We've for about three or four decades. But anyway, I think our numbers, I think our numbers

are closer to around. And that's why they that's why they mean ho these census um since its every few years to see who's all here. Yeah, you know, maybe they lying with as making up stuff. Man, you can't you can never believe their numbers. You know what I'm saying. If somebody won't treat you right, they won't teach you right. Boy, boy boy, that's heaven. So you can't believe. That's why when we see all these statistics populate, well in this category,

black's rated. This man who is keeping up with all of this? Who who who's doing these surveys? It ain't us? And and and if it is the same people who are part of the systemic or the structural racism, why would we believe them? I would? So when okay, well you you you you Willie d right, and you marry a white woman and she's racist, where we all know that ain't gonna happen, But go ahead, I'm just saying, go ahead for the sake of but she's racist. But she's racist, and and and and you know it that

it is she's a racist. You know, ah, that's not police brtality. Those guys were resisting arrest. Yeah, you know, like, how how does that make a man feel or how does that make a woman feel or think? You know, if they keep hearing this ship every time, you know, something go on in our community, how does that make the individuals start thinking? Now, you know what my husband says that, uh, that's not that's that's not racist, that's

you know, he deserved that. Or my wife says that that's not um discrimination, that's uh, that's what she deserved. I think what they deserved. They are animals. They got your spouse has you thinking that your people are animals? And now I've rescued you and you're here with me. Now, I think, no matter how much you are in love, I'm gonna give you the benefit of daughter. No matter how much you are in love, how great your intentions are.

If you're in an interracial relationship, you're compromised because if you see something happening on the other side that's a violation to your side. You may give it a pass because you need peace in your house. You know, you want peace. If you want to start an argument, start talking about racism. Start and start talking about race, talk about religion, you know, speak along those lines and politics

and you gotta fight. So I think in an effort to keep the peace, people will oftentimes not speak the truth to power when it comes to situations like racism. And so I think, no matter you know what your race is, if if you're if you're in a relationship interracial,

interracial relationship, you're gonna be compromised. Even if it's an Asian person and relationship with a white person, I think they're both of them going to be compromised because then if you if you see, if one sees a violation from their side, on the other side, it's like, oh, you know, like you try to act like maybe it's a big deal, but you know it ain't. You're not gonna have I don't think you would have the same reaction that you would have if you were in the

same race relationship. I don't think that could be wrong, but I just don't think I think that true if we don't. If we don't, and I'm not saying speak the same language, like like um, you know, English and Spanish or Spanish and uh Portugal or whatever, like if we don't speak the same language, like we we don't

we're not on the same page. Like if you don't have compassion for my community and I don't have compassion for yours, then we're gonna always uh conflict when it comes time to talk about these or or be a part of these different issues that take place in our community, whether it be his or hers, or hers or his, like,

it's gonna always be a conflict. You know, if you really want to know the truth about it, if you take every single let's look at black and white, if you take every single this is not if you take every single black person, that's every single interracial couple, that's every single interracial black white couple, and you had every single white person that was in those interracial couples to go out and say, I'm a wharf of this ship.

I'm gonna I'm gonna ride against this racist ship just like I would if like a black person would, like a black spouse would, they could effectively stop that ship like overnight, because it's a lot of them, it's a

lot of inter racial couples. I'm talking about millions in this country, you know, like at the minimum, a few hundred thousands they could really just single handedly because white people have more power to to to put a den in racism than black people do because because they they are the primary uh people that that that that exercise

it practices of racism. They are interesting. But but if but but but imagine if all white people that was in in interracial relationships with black people would would have that same energy that black people have when something bad happens to black people. Imagine if they had that same energy, not not the ones that do, all of them, because it's something, it's something that like a mother, I said,

all of them, not imagine all of them. Imagine if all of them had it had that same energy, that ship, that ship would be like that, it would be I'm not saying it would be gone, but they put a major dent into it. But they're not doing anything. And to me, I feel like I feel like when you when you when you get into a relationship with a person, that person should whatever attributes that that person should have have in a relationship, you should have access to those attributes.

For example, people have people get into relationships and based on uh, this person has access to cars, he owns a dealership. It wouldn't make a lot of sense for a woman to be married to a guy who owns a car dealership and she's riding the bus. You see so, And in my opinion, it wouldn't make a lot of sense for a black person to be in a relationship with a white person if they're not actively out there

fighting to destroy racism. You see what I'm saying. If they're not actively just not being racist, it's not enough. Just minding your own business, and not just minding your own business, and not not uh participating uh in practicing the word the N word, and and and doing and doing and doing things too to interfere with black progress. That's not enough. You have to we got to have all hands on deck. And if you truly are with us, you should be as passionate about destroying this ship as

we are. Hm, you should be is passionate about dismantling this ship as we are. So to me, that's like if I had a if I had a white woman as a spouse, you better believe should be on the front line. You better believe if she works, if she has a job in corporate America, she being that making sure that she squish as long as she qualified, can get in and not be denied because of her name? Do you think that our U and the racial um couples in power carry that same energy? Does Clarence Thomas

carry that same energy? What? Same energy? The same energy? Like he does? Does he want? Is he expecting his spouse to come out on the front line? Hell? Now? What about Vice president? Hell? Hell now? What if I say about the Um the Supreme Court justice and her husband. Let me put it like this, what have you seen them? Do? Have you heard about them? Like like leading, you're just saying what? Those are people in position? Really, those are people in position that can change a whole lot of

ship if they just said something. So do you get empower and shut the up? Or do you get empower and make some fucking noise? That's the question. I think. You get in power and do what you've always done, whatever you've always done, that's what you do when you get in power. You ain't never done ship, then you

ain't ship. You know, if you've if you've been part of the go along, get along, When you just get enough for you and like make sure you and you're straight, then that's what you're gonna do when you get power. If you're a giver. If you're a generous person when you don't have power, you're gonna be a more generous person when you have power. That power is just going to magnify who you are. M hmm, that's hiven it is. Um.

I want to say rest in peace to gangster. But you know we lost gangs, oh man, man sweet, such a very good soul, very good soul. Man. We are losing a lot of our um heroes, willie a lot of our well our appears for us, but losing a lot of heroes too. Man. I was sitting back and I was listening to I was listening to music. I was listening to UM, you know, Bob Marley. I was listening to Earth When and Fire. I was listening to UM Marvin Gaye, and I was like, damn, what the

fun happened to our music? Man? Like what happened to our music? Um? And then I was listening to you know, some some um, some alternative and rock and roll ship that's coming out, and I'm like, man, that even more so lets me know that that conspiracy to destroy black music is real. The cousin bro. I remember growing up, everybody played instruments and you know, funked around and was brilliant. And did you know we we we we were different, man.

You knew the difference between me and you when we wrapped. We knew the distance, the difference between cube and l L when they rapped. But now the ship just sounds like one long ass song, right, and every uh not every but some of those R and B songs, you know, they not. It's not like it was Willie. It's a um it's a kid man um that I was listening to the other day and he had a fucking song that was absolutely amazing. Um, trying to think in the

name of it, give me a second. It's called um rain uh oh God Rain Harvest in Lake the name of the song, right, And I was listening to that ship, and I thought that that was brilliant, man. And then you turn around and listen to some ship that don't make no fucking sense, and like, how does this ship getting so much exposure and this ship is not how much blame does the fan get though? Yeah, I think that in order for you to have a whack back,

but you got to have a whack fan. That's not true, Like, well, Kate, prove it proven prove you wrong, because it's like, as long as you got junk food out there for motherfucker to eat, then they're gonna always eat junk food. And whose fat is that? The person that's supplying the junk food. So so the person that eats the junk food has it? What else you gonna eat? If I always out there is junk food, what else you gonna eat? Stop? You know what? You know what? You're right, But goddamn you

caught mouth guard with that one. That was a good one, that was a good one. You couldn't You didn't leave it open. And for me, man, you don't know. That's all that's I didn't even open. That's all. It's good, bro, that's all that's out there, you know. And I remember,

I remember that. I remember, hold on, Willie. I remember when it was all dope ship and you had one and two or three kid flashes, you know, Nash all kid flashes and and and noting and and and you know one of two dope ship's coming out here and there. You know it flipped bad though, But I know it's

I know it's not by accident. That's it is by design, bro, ship is by designed, Willie it's by design, because I think the more that you suck their heads up and get them and get them off, they square with what they know how to do. You know. It brought me to this too. I was listening to a kid and I don't know where he was, where he was from, but he was talking about it's a talking about, oh man, something to the thing where he don't want to behind

mighty and fall down on his face. Uh he thank God for the he thank you for for the sunshine, thank you for rain, thank you for joy, thank you for pain. It's a beautiful day. And I thought about it. I'm like, man, these kids ain't got shipped out their way, are you know? They're struggling out here where whatever country they were in, man, whatever country, whatever school they were in, you just heard it. And you heard talent. You heard raw talent, Willie, you heard talent. No no studio, no

auto pitch, no none of that ship. Just a beautiful voice that came from one of these countries, and a beautiful voice that came from one of these countries. And you don't get to hear it besides on the internet. You know, they're not making albums with with with with these Uh, kids with these beautiful voices no more. They rather have a motherfucker that don't speak correct grammar and and and sing about stupid ship, a rap about stupid ship,

rather than than showcasing our God given talents. Man, So are you saying that ACoM was right in saying that African artists are better than us black artist? I'm gonna say that African artists are getting there there, getting their artistry out there. I can't say that. Well, he said that there were better performance. Do you think that better performance?

I mean, I have not seen them, but I know that if we tapped back into our African heritage and and and we'll get some more African American people running these putting putting these records out instead of running behind whatever. Uh. That guy says, like, how the funk do You ain't even never been to my motherfucking neighborhood. You don't even know where the funk I'm from, But you're gonna dictate what's hot here? How how are you gonna dictate what's

hot here? Motherfucker? And you ain't never even drove through here. You're sitting up on the sixty second floor looking at it. But you ain't never been there, but this is what you want us to listen to. So how do you get rid of that guy? How do you get rid of it? Start your own ship, Start your own ship, go bet go man, Like it's just so fucked up, and we constantly feed the wolf. We're constantly feeding that

machine and they're constantly accept bro. I told you about the song that I posted right uh then turning up for a long time, all right, and uh God called me like I ain't talked to him at least three for five months. Man, who is that guy? You should sign it? What the fuck? Just just there, just there?

You see you see a black kid, you know, making a joke, singing this hard out gold teeth uh shirt off, you know, fitting the description of what you think, what you think that we should look like to everybody else, you know, and you want that's what you want when you get when you get a kid like uh uh uh Simba Marcus Clay, you know, our fucking uh fresh dope. Like somebody's really talking some ship. You know we can't

hear from them, but you want me to see. You want us to see, You want us to see the dumb ship. You know you want to you want. You want the entertainment for us to be on some other ship, but the entertainment for you is is um spectacular. M h. I was listening excuse me, I was listening to some country music because I love music, you know, I'm music musics first soun Okay, so I love it. I listened to it all the time, and I picture from it.

And you can just compare the music to yesterday to the music today, you know, and you'll be like, wow, we'll never have another R. Kelly again. When when where do you think the switch started or when do you think the switch started? I think the switch started when we started mass producing rap music. I think the switch started when music was being mass produced and and and you know, um, the more the more mass the more of a mass production that came out on this music.

That the more money and made well and true enough, but the quality of it went down. You know, I could buy an Ice Cube album tomorrow and I hear from Ice Cub for the next two years, you know, because I know he's making some ship that that that's gonna that's gonna dictate you know where hip hop is going. Dre same thing. I know it's gonna take some years for Trey to come out, but I know when I hear it, it's gonna be looking amazing, you know, jay z Nas, you know it's gonna be for Wow. Like

I want to hear Wow. I don't want to hear no ship that you keep coming and keep dropping ship for motherfucker's to buy and you water down the product. Man. I remember we used to buy records. We used to buy records by the label. It went wrong. Do you remember that? You know, if we've seen we used to but we used to buy a records judgment judging by the album cover, what was the album cover of the album? I mean, that's a cold as album cover right there, Man,

I know that ship Jamen. Now it's just a picture of the motherfucker like it. Ain't even know album covers no more. There's no creativity and there no thought behind it. You just make an album and you put it up on a on a streaming platform and hope that somebody listened to it. You know, like artists should pull their shipped down. They should pull all of their music down from this ship and collapse them like they collapse the mom and pop store. Did you pull your music down.

I want to pull it down where you gotta start it started off. You got enough pull my ship down, take all my ship off, because if you can listen to my ship for under a penny, why would I even want to make music? Bro? And I did million them the fifty million streams this year. I did them the fifty million streams this year. But imagine if if you heard my song that many fucking times and you had to pay me your dollar every time you heard it,

you fucking me man all the money anyway. And then I still see some fucking sixty year old dudes trying to wrap the funk out of here. Bro, Well, I don't think it's nothing wrong with a sixty year old dude rapping, but not starting rapping, starting to wrap. I'm saying, got a name yet? You know you don't have No, you don't have a name. You just hey man, I'm going to studio, still at it. But how do you

take his dream away? Though, if that's what he want to do, because they have to be I have to be authentic with everybody I come in contact with or I'd be failing my community. Bro, your ship not jamming, and you can't wrap. And you should have did that ship when we started way back in the eighties. Man, I heard a dude on the internet yesterday. He had I think they said he was sixty five. Since he's six and dog, how can you tell him not to

rap when he jamming? I'm sure jamming. He was jamming. Bro. My question to you is, how are we gonna sell it? Can't You're just doing it for a hobby. You know you're doing this ship for a hobby. Yeah, I did this ship for business, Willie. And when the ship turned in? When when the ship turned from fund to a business and now it's turning back into not getting nothing there not have no fund, no business fun this ship, man, And ain't no money in it. It's no money in it, Willie.

There's no money, So why do it? You know we spent we spent a lot of money to make an album and then of money for you know, the majors did a major disservice to the people when they started promoting one record, Like they started looking for one record and trying to pay off the artists two get that one record. They wouldn't even they wasn't even signing deals with artists anymore. They just started just pat buying that one record. You're doing a single deal, giving you a

single deal, dude. That that I do believe that. It was a number of things though. You had that. You had that. You have, you have the labels making single deals. You had the advent of the internet, and you had bootlegging. You had, I mean, you had you had mix tapes. There's always been blog but I'm talking about mix tapes. You have the mix tapes were people were giving that stuff away for free, giving up the whole albums, going to studio making whole albums and giving them away for free.

People started doing that, bro. It was so it was so it was It was not just one thing. It was a series of events. There was a series of events. But that was the most notable and noticeable to me. When the ship when you when you when you had a album coming out every four days, you know somebody you know, uh, one label would have an album coming out every four days, and then another label would start copying that, and then another label will start copying that,

and then the ship just went. It just went bananas haywired from there, like you just there was just so much ship to buy, you know, until you didn't know what to buy, so you you bought it all, made a ship ton of money with it. But it turned our It turned our craft into a joke. You know, something that we held so dearly to our hearts and to our um ability to create man, and it's just

fucking trash now, man, it's fucking trash man. This episode was produced by a King and brought to you by the Black Effect Podcast Network at Our Heart Radio