The Tyron Woodley Episode

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appreciate you. Yeah, man, um, tell me what's what it's like to be and m m a fighter because you know boxing is my background. I've always had a problem with people kicking me like I thought kicking with disrespectful shit. Ever do you ever feel that way? Was somebody kick you, does it turn up something in you? I mean when I was younger, we fall in the street a lot, fought in gangs. I falled like just a fight for sure. Yeah. I grew up in St. Louis and fighting was just

a way of life. Um So for me, karate was a big thing because Karate Kid that came out. So we was doing mad KARATEI in the crib. I remember my my daughter would not kick me in the face so hard, and my you know, you get that headache in the back of your eyeball. He mean kicking me in these I had a headache in the back of my eyeball so bad. But I told myself, you bet not cry, you bet not cry, You better not cry. I just how old, I mean, probably like ten you

still crying? You get kicking the nose at thirties in the nose right now? So so I was. I think that's kind of like where I kind of built that extra layer of skin that like, even if something hurt, I just didn't want to show nobody her. So the kicking part came later, Like I really, most of my fights. I don't do a lot of kicking. Um. I wanted to box my whole life, but my mom would never let me box. So that was the only sport that I really, really really wanted to do that I never did.

My grandfather was a big boxing promoter in St. Louis and Detroit, Cash, just Clay, everybody you can think of. He promoted everybody, so it's kind of my blood. Everybody Spinks, Corey Spinks, um so we um. I wrestled in college and when I graduated college, the Ultimate Fighter Show came out and I was like, let me give it a try because I couldn't start boxing that at that age because I was twenty three years old. Most people started boxing and as teenagers, so I said, let me try

this Emma thing. And I was a coach at first, teaching people to wrestlant stop people from taking them down, because that's when the wrestler was coming in and and taking everybody down and couldn't stop it. So I was kind of like the the ob So I was teaching them how to stop the wrestlers from taking them down. And I was sparring so much and training so much two and three days because I was like the number one coach in the country. Everybody flew me out to training. Yeah, nobody.

I was a number one coach for for wrestling because nobody knew how to handle the wrestler. So I was in such your shape, I'm like, well, let me just try this. So I just really got an emvac kind of trying it out, and I said shot out. Since I'm man, here's go ahead and go cradit with it. But you started very young. I mean you you you were on the wrestling Did you want a championship on

the on the collegiate level? You want the championship on the high school level, and you won the championship on the pro level, you know, I mean like you got that transpective thing. Yeah, I want a couple of state championships in high school. And then I went to University of Missouri. I was All American and when they first Big two title that they ever had at the cool and then UM had over a hundred of something victories, so I'm in the record books there and they just

put me in the Hall of Fame. And then I went on the m m A and I won five UFC titles and that's just kind of where people kind of know me from. But more importantly, I just I never wanted to be boxing. Everybody wanted me to do one thing and they wanted me to just be one person. But I'm like, I'm an artist, so I do everything music, TV, production, fighting, really, painting and art. So anything, um um like the w W E w w W. Yeah, I was on. I was in the training account for the w W. Yeah.

I was in as a motherfucker. And it's so dog, I'm trying to take Let me tell you what it is. What you're doing is real. Now. You asked me if it's real? All right now if I don't want to get a ghost up, but I'll tell you what though. I got a humeboy in a book. It to you right, He liked, yeah, but book you want a whole lot of championships, man, and he stood up right. So I'm looking at this big old motherfucking I'm like, man, I choked slam and ship out of the tea and he

probably thought something different that w W crazy man. I looked at the man and said, I choked show him to shoot out of chef. That's when reality hits you, like would beat your Now that real training is real and hurts turn up. You gotta hear so hard ninety nine all over again. You called the chief with where's Jake bring the boat? Shouts out to my home way Book of Tea. No, that's my dog man like like it's it's it's hard to um um, it's hard to fake,

like dropping the motherfucker, you know what I mean. Hit. Yeah, I'm a big gass wrestling fan from a little kid. I don't really watch it right now. So after I smelled what the rock was cooking? That was it? That that smell? The does The thing about it is like imagine like if you're fighting in real life, a lot

of time adrenalin gonna take over. Right, you do feel that pain and you feel like afterwards, So if somebody clothesline you for real, boom you but offen it goes crazy on it, right, But when you know it's coming and you gotta look like you don't and you gotta hit it and take the fall, like in a way where it looks tragic that ship hurt because it's not really adrenaline. Adrenaling is like I'm in this, but when you're actually going through whatever they're doing, like I did it.

It's a whole different thing because I've been wrestling. I've been slammed. I've slammed people know it ain't nobody doing that. M How cold are you find not? Yeah? How would you? Two hundred right? You can get done to you tell us how you got even even got interested in wrestling, because you know a lot of our kids, you know a lot of black kids that you know come from my background. You know, we grow up and we had this idea of being a rapper or an athlete, and

you chose, and the wrestling is it is. That's not the basketball, but it's not stereotypical basketball and football at a fighter, you know, but but wrestling it is one of those things we don't that's not typically on you from throwing off off the top because they're looking at it like it's a little heart, you know what I mean, it's kind of a tight uniform. And most kids ain't really checking for that. They want like bagging sharks. They want socks, they wanted they want look cool stuff. They

want to make jump shots. They don't want to have ugly years. And you know what I mean, you have to shave your face face with her look crazy so for me, I was I was really My coach said, hey, we got wrestling practice today. You come to wrestling practice. I'm like, man, I ain't coming to the wrestling practice. So he like grabbing me up, like you know, you come into practice. So I went. But in my mind it's w W So I'm in there ready for the ropes.

I'm ready to jump off some stuff. But I don't know that it's not that kind of wrest I never heard of regular wrestling. So I went into practice and then I didn't know no moves that It wasna like my first day. Everybody had already started and he was like, um, you played football. I said yeah, I played football and he said you know how to tackle somebody and I said yeah. So he said that's all you gotta do is tackle him and trying to smash that back to

the mat. And then that's how that's pretty much the just a wrestling. So he was in practice and I was young, and when I was young, I didn't I didn't know to think, and I didn't know the care. So I was just slamming everybody boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom, and he was like, we gotta wrestling tournament tomorrow. You should come to the wrestling tournament. I remember, I only got one day of practice. I don't even know what the movis is call. I don't

know what's illegal. I don't know nothing. So I went to this tournament and I wrestled this kid, and everybody was like getting warmed up. And I don't even know how to warm up. I don't really don't their names moves. So I rushed his kid, I shook his hand. I all I remembers football tackle. So I picked him up and I slammed him so hard. He had his tongue out of his mouth right and bit down in the tip of his tongue. He bit the tip of his tongue off. It was blood on the matter is blood everywhere.

And I was freaked. I'm like, I'm broke. I can't pay for this mother hospital bills. But every all the kids was around me was scared to me after that, and I was like, I like this. I like the way that felt when they was when they feared me a little bit. So then I won that tournament, and there was history after that. I just kept wrestling, but I never if someone would have showed me the uniform, told me the wrestling. I saw a match, I would have never did it. It is, man, because it's no

way I'm still yeah. I mean it's it takes a lot of energy, like somebody like trying to force their position on you as you're trying to resist it. It's never in their static straining basketball. You can relax a little bit, but imagine being tense and flexed the whole time and always every little move it's like a next chain move you gotta be ready for. It's a it's a chess match, like a static strength chess match, if

that makes sense. I can't. I can't imagine, like don't you have to like get on forward and then somebody get on top of you and then y'all go from there and some ship you gotta try to escape, like from the bottom position. So a lot of people aren't good at that. I was terrible at that. When I first started, I was like I was really smart. So I'm like, I'm gonna take this dude down a lot five six times, Okay, So I'm gonna be up by

mad points. I'm gonna defer to him. I'm gonna let him pick the choice, he's gonna pick down, I'm gonna let him up. I'm gonna take him down some more so I can kind of break your spirit. Now in the last round, if I choose to go down, then he's not gonna pin me. He only got two minutes. He's not gonna make up the points. So I want a lot of matches that way. Or I said, I don't feel like going down. I just want neutral, so

I went back on my feet. So I was before I got to college, I never really learned how to get away from the bottom. And then I spent one whole year when my coaches made me learn how to get away from the bottom. And the only match as I ever lost, I was like forty seven and seven. I won a crapot match in my freshman year. All seven matches I couldn't get away from bottom. The only way to somebody beat me. And then when you learn to get away from yeah, because black black athletes and

wrestling are the same stigma as other sports. Strong, athletic, explosive, right, but wrestling is a very skilled sport. So most African Americans to get off the bottom position as a mindset, I'm not gonna let another man, keep me down. I gotta get the funk up. That's really all it bolls out. So it's technique to get up. But when you sircumminists, except I can't get away all. Uh, that's that's that's

when we say now. Nor if you keep trying to get up and everything you got, it's so hard to maintain top position when somebody's fighting hard to get up, most likely gonna let you up. So when I got that mindset, it kind of separated me. So I didn't want people to look at me as just an athlete that was strong and explosive and fast and had an extra calf muscle, you know what I mean. And I had some matter. I lost. I was tired. I was

cutting too much weight, so I lost. When my freshman year in college, I was in the match to be an All American as a freshman, which is like not very likely. In that match, I lost in overtime because I was too tired to defend myself. And I told myself, that's the last time that severn l happened to me.

I made Cardiff Cardio. I made it in my life because you know, when you think about an athlete, we're just not getting to the point where we're accepting the quarterback is an African American athlete, right, the skill positions are golf or something different like that. Right, We're looked at running back and basketball players and stuff like that. So I tell my kids, you have to be in shape more than everybody else because everybody looking for you

to fade. Like they used to say in college, chocolate melts. It's mad, disrespectful, mad racist. That means that if you keep putting pressure on the African American wrestler, they'll break. So coaches used to say chocolate melts. So when you wrestle an African American wrestler, the rest of you to try to beat us is be really square, grab our risks, control our hands, block all the shots, let you try, let you try to, let you gas out, and then

try to go after you. Yeah, how receptive was your family and you're pursuing wrestling In wrestling, that was really receptive because you know, um, nobody ever did it in my family. Um, nobody really ever did it in my neighborhood. Actually my next one neighbor wrestle a little bit, but outside of that and had nobody else that wrestled um. The thing they took card was fighting because I was such a you know, wrestling. I got a college degree,

I went on I was an All American. It's kind of like a Schlussick sport, and fighting at that time wasn't making money. It was kind of like a bar like bar fighting. So my mom was like, what's going on you? You're gonna through identity crisis and what's wrong with you? Like like they was worried about me because why am I doing this fighting? So I got a college degree, I'm a coach, you know, I mean, I did this whole thing. Why I'm All American? Why am

I going into this crazy fighting bars for free? I fought for free for three years. But I just I don't know. I just want to do it in adrenaline. But I felt bad when I first started doing it because I was like, I'm telling my friend, I said, man, I feel like I can kill somebody with my hands. I don't know if that's godly or no. I felt like I felt like if I wanted to, I could, But then I don't know if that was a good thing.

That's a good thing. But think think about this, how many times they've been warning it, looking the Bible, looking at any religion, people have been warn forever, right, So that's a good thing. Man. I know how you feel really because like when you especially when you're in tiptop shake, yeah, you feel like you can beat the world, like anybody can get it. Yeah, with your with your bad hands. Like like right now, I feel like anybody across right

directly across. I feel like I feel like I'm would be mediating, afficiating this never to get up what I'm saying. I see right now, I'm gonna be right in the middle officiating. Yeah, Willy has always been violent. Man. My my question is that does professional wrestling like the wrestling that you did, does that does that pay like a nice check? Na? I mean in collegian wrestling, the professional wrestling is to w W, So that's what professional because

they make money. They call the wrestling that we do. Collegiate wrestling is really amateur because you can't be a professional go to the Olympics. So when these guys go to the Olympics, you don't make money in to the Olympics and they only make money. So when you go into the the w W E and that kind of ship. I don't like calling names, so bleep that ship. I meanmor yo. But when you go into that part of wrestling that's considered pro wrestling, that's consider pro wrestling, that's

what makes money. Yeah, amateur wrestling is the actual sport that you see in collegiate or Olympics. You you can get sponsorships where they like, I'm sponsored by UM, I don't know, Sun Kiss Kids or Dave Schultz or something like that. They'll they'll like you, they'll give you a little bit of money. It'd be like fire in front of house of money would be some nothing UM uniforms gear. And then when you go you have a past to say he wrestled with Sun Kiss Kids or Dave Schultz.

And some people thought that was a flex. But even when you win the Olympics, like these guys aren't even getting a million bucks. That's the top of the top. Yeah, they're getting hundreds of thousands. Maybe if that m I feel like you had a gold medal and from Olympics, you should be getting the whole whole tickets where they get their money from endorsements, right, that's where the money comes. They ain't getting the money. That's why I I'm doing.

That's why I said I'm done doing freestyle because that's what I feel like. I'm doing it for free. That's the support. Uh, that's the genre. So it's greco Roman when you can't touch the legs and freestyles. When you see the guys throwing that can do the regular takens, that's the international. So I said, I ain't doing free something more. I can wrestle somebody in the M M A fight and make money. So then I just makes martial arts. Um, that's where the money is in the

m M is now there. It wasn't there before when I got into it. It wasn't I found the first three years for free or ticket sales. I remember my first payday was three hundred bucks five hundred and I thought I was living Levita Local when I made a thousand fight. Knowing that you were part of the people that built M M M A to what it is now and that you didn't get the money that you perhaps should have gotten back then, you know, uh, how

do you feel about that? And and and what are you doing to make sure that you don't like just leave that all behind and throw it away because you still have some great influence. You still have a a name, you got a brand, and you can still get money in in that like are you doing anything? I can get money more than I was able to get then, because I'm the only free agent in the sport and

combat sports. No other fighter can say they can go and fight anywhere in any place, in any country, any format of combat kickboxing, boxing, m m A and get paid the top dollars. Now I'm in a position, but I had to get out of a contract. I had to get out of every time I want the UFC title, they extended my contract another year or another actually a four twelve twelve colands a year. So when you won,

it was good because you're making more money. But you can't go and see the free market in the free agency. So I can leave the UFC make four times an amount of money I made as a champion. Now I look back and I look at you know me, all the battles I fall, and I was a guy that was just they marked me as like the public enemy. I was like the Tupac m m A. Because I still don't want I stood on. I never been I never buckled. I never let the industry pay buy me out.

And all the fighters that are now speaking up for themselves. I know I was always a trailblazer in the Pioneer. So yesterday they had a fight, and I looked at all the outs and guys that are not even the main event are making the same amount of money I was making as an undisputed reigning defending champion, right and the guys they just won his first title ever made double the amount of money I made in my last fight,

which would have been my fifth Tide of Defense. So I can look at that in crowdspiel Milk, But I can also look at I paid that way because now the conversations are different when you're go into the office to talk to boss. But when I go to the table to get paid, people already know don't come to me with peanuts. You know, Like I'm in a negotiation right now and they want to they want to pay me x, X, Y and Z, And then I'm like,

we can't do that. If you do it, this person's gonna hear about it and they're gonna try to do it. You're not about to do that. You only I turned out a couple of things I kind of learned like that maybe I shouldn't have. But then guy got a way of bringing it back. How did the Jake Paul

fights come come about? You know, I was actually cornering my homie, been asking, been asking, got a fight, and once again he had retired from the UFC right and he got permission, provisional permission because he still was technically a contract to a fight. Jake Um, he helped me win world titles. He was my teammate in college, multiple time national champion, world champion. M a fighter, he's a legend and Um he's been there for me for a lot of fights. And he's a He's a wrestler that cardio.

You can't even compare nobody to his cardio. He'll he'll never get tired in a million years. But when I was getting into top Shade, he was my measuring stick and he would always let me know you ready to go. And I always appreciate that. So when he asked me to help him out, I said, I'm there. I said, I got my own stuff coming up. He said, I don't even need to train with you, I just want you to be at the fight. So I was king for him at the fight. We get backstage and Um,

de's Jake and his crew. They mean they came from the YouTube world. Everything is a prank, Everything is a guy. That's the way they take it to make it light. I bet you can't do this. So I'm gonna fight this guy that's a champion. If he wins and losers, he can't really lose, right. So I went in the back and I'm like, all right, let me check your gloves. Make sure you ain't throwing the fucking you know, I mean brickson or something like that, So you have to

go and check the gloves upon it. Him and his guys are kind of like trying to like rough with my feathers to try to play the mind game. And I was like, if you know me, you really know I don't look around like that, So yeah, I can say whatever you want. Let's he just to get these gloves six. So then they started trying to go back and forth, and I'm thinking to myself. Part of me is like, I will smack the dude. The second part is you're Dudefinn get the biggest pay that he ever got.

Protected back. Don't don't do no boysh it. This ain't your fight. You're here for your dog. So I kind of let it go right at the end of the fight, my dog lost, and then he said I want to see Tyra fight him. I'm like, I'll fight him ship And then after that all the fans wanted to see me fight him. So I never really like politics for a fight with the dude. Everybody else want to fight him because he's paying a lot of money, right, paying

a lot of money. So I got the fight based eilely because of what I did, and the fans wanted to see him. Okay, So so the fight, the first fight, it go down and well, I can't remember, can you hear me? Remember? How did? How did it end? As far I know? You lost the first the first the first fight was um. First fight was a split decision, So two judges said that he won and one just

said that I want Um. I thought I wanted to fight because the first four rounds was kind of the filling out rounds, right, But in the fourth rounds when I knocked them through the ropes, technically that's a knockdown. They didn't call it a knockdown. You if the ropes is the only thing to keep you up, it should be knockdown. Um. We went into the ring. The ropes was to the back of my head that side. I've

never seen the rope that high in my life. And they were really loose, right, So my coach made he made a complaint about it. They tightened up the ropes. When they tightened up the ropes, that's what actually brought him back into the fight. So they would have left the ropes to where it was when I hit him, he would have hit the ropes and he would have sat to his ass. But he sprung back forward after I hit him, So I hit him. He went through ropes, and I'm like, I'm gonna try to send him through

the ropes. So when I when he bounced back, he called me out here boom. So now I'm like, my damn arm is mess up? Like finished the fight. I'm like my orphan, like he's out of sockets. So then I just started swinging crazy. I won that round. I won the fifth round, I won a sixth round, and run the seventh round, one eighth round. If you do the math, four or five, six, seven, eight, if I went five out of eight rounds, is no way he

could have won. Even if you clearly won the first three rounds and he never knocked me down, so I just felt like the fight was in Cleveland, Ohio, where he's from. The whole storyline was about this emerging YouTuber blah blah blah blah, so it makes sense for the storyline for me to win the fight, I would have had to knock him out. So the second time we fall, I was actually set filming Cobra Kai. I was filming the Cobra Kad in Atlanta, and I got a call

from his manager and said, his opponent can't fight. Can you fight? I said, let's go two weeks so I jumped into the mix. I started. I did fourteen hours of filming. I started training three or four in the morning. Right when I got done a filming, whatever time it was, we trained, went to sleep. I did that for two weeks. I got in shape and I told you, I said, I'm looking better shape than him. I'm gonna look He's gonna be the one that looks hard. And though I

lost the fight, though I started for the knockout. The first six rounds out of eight, I was smashing him and he threw one punch at the same time I dropped my hand and landed the punch. But I can't take away from everything building up training for this fight, getting prepared with two weeks notice, and being in better shape than he was was that was actually the victory. But but Jake's bigger than me. But he I don't

know exactly how much he weighs. But I feel like if we walk out this door and somebody get in my face, I'm not gonna check their weight. I'm not gonna check their background. I'm not gonna check their record. I'm gonna try to funk him up. Well, that's absolutely true. But but talking about to be in croas proximity and a person can lean on you for three three minutes, I never felt I never felt that. I never felt

the lean. He wasn't a good clincher anyway, that's when he was he they broke the fight up too much because I was actually working them to the body. Um my wrestling background, I was very good in the clinch. So though people maybe bigger than me, like I work with my homie Jay Glazier in um in l A and I work with a lot of NFL guys and they call it m m athletics. So I trained them in martial arts. But trying to make a statis shrint

for like their sport. None of those heavyweights, none of those guys, they will be tongue out falling over because I just know how to move the person. He were waiting at one ninety two. That's what I walk around that one two. So I don't feel like I lost that much weight. I mean I had some. I had some. He had the height of light heavyweight, right something cruiserweight. Yeah, you came in one night. I came in and one Yeah. So I didn't mind that because I killed my body

for so many years. Man, I made one seventy from two hundred, two hundred and five my entire m maker and my dog could tell you many times it was not cute watching me make weight the last point two or point three, like I'm damn there dead. And did you make more money like with those two fights with Jake than you than you have made during your career? No, I mean a lot of people, a lot of people. I want to believe that, And I just let people

know what they know. Fans know everything, like right, according to the fans, I'm retired. According to the fans. Uh, the fight was fixed. According to the fans, I made the most money I've ever made, but I've had m a fight squard. I made millions of dollars. I mean I made three million dollars on my fight. So people think that I'm just not getting to the money. That was the first big purse, but we had a pay

review structure, like I fought on a car. Madison Square Garden, the first ever UFC fight in New York City, Madison Square Garden. We have the biggest gate. Nobody's ever topped it, not jay Z, not Ali. We got the top gate every Madison Square Garden, the best card in receipts put out but um but on that card, I had to fight in the night out of every fight and it's still today the best car they ever had. So I

made money. I made the most in a purse for that fight, but I made in pay per view structure and endorsements. I had already been making money. Did you come from a big family? Big family? It's thirteen of you? Is that where you get this? Uh? This this proud list to fight and we fought. Man, we fall. It's funny thing that my sisces with the fighters. They don't want to snatch you out the car dragive, crowbar, beat you up, stump you out, but I'll fall because I

that's where the life I lived. And and the fact that I end up being a fighter. It's kind of funny because if you look at my sisters and you know how they were brought up, you thought one of them when end up being a fighter. But yeah, we definitely fought my control, last slice of pizza, So you got what about your sister? A few times, a couple of few with my sister calling all the way to

I was dog. She'd be a bad and when didn't stop when you got to that to that championship stage, you know, I mean, I had to stand up for myself one time. But she did throw me through the drywall. Yeah, she she had me in one hand, my brother on the hand. She spent us in the circle, threw me through the wall. So I was in the basement. I ended up in a laundry room, and I just remember like I'm gonna get my ask with Ma Mama. I got beat up in embarrassed. We try to put the

little remember the the playhouse. I'm trying the playhouse over the whole. My mom was like get upstairs. I'm like now I got to get an ass with kids are crazy, man, the biggest hole straight through the drywall. I don't know how I perfectly he went through Between the M two about four, I was in. I was in the lawn your room, just sitting there like, yeah, my sister beat me a mini times many embarrassing, not just a regular like she beat me with a fishtick box on time

in front of my dogs. And that was like, you can't never come back from it. Are you from Ferguson? Uh? St? Louis? I from Ferguson, But until until the riots happened in Ferguson, most people just called it St. Louis because it's too it's kind of like East part of like East part of Houston. You wouldn't like the sounding from Houston. I mean, if you're from St. Louis, then we get we're a narror. Now we usually ask you what high school you want to? That's the same Louis thing. You say, well s you

want to? We're judging you off the top. Do you think you ever m Are you in the training? Now? Yeah? You've been a fight. I can't say just yeah. But so as I signed a dit in line, I let you know Paul Man, Jake Paul, Dude, I don't know why that kid got me so pumped up. The show can fight, he can fight. He he's like this. He's a kid that's like um. Everybody wanted him get his ask, but they want to see him tak a lesson. He's the bully that's laughing through the ass with him. You

never you never teach him a lesson. Remember he took Floyd had they beat him up. He laughed the whole time, so he really didn't He didn't really learn the lesson. He laughed through it and then he got a tattoo. Got your hat? Is Jake par a likable person to you? Um? To me? I never, I just know. I know it was behind the curtain, So I never took a personal and I know what he's trying to do. I know what he's trying to build his brand. Um, he respects me a lot like Jake. Paul and his brother was

fans of me for a long time. Many many pictures of like when they was babies. Want just a fan of me is fighting his dad, his family. They've all been fans of me for a very long time. But to fight me proace just gave him the motivation that if I thought somebody I looked up to or I wanted to, you know, emulate because they came from a wrestling background. Um. I never really had a problem with him, but I knew that if I let his antics and I let the bullshit get to me, I knew that

it would mess me up. The other people didn't take them serious. I trained hard for him. I took him way serious. I spent a lot of time, a lot of sparring sessions where I was not winning against people that are better, a lot of running. You know, Floyd, those guys they don't play about this running. He came up to me said, hmm, you don't like to run, do you, Floyd? And I'm like, what do you say? I said, no, not for real. He said, That's why I can fight so long, and that's why I've been

fighting for so many years. Very difficult, six seven days a week running. So if I can go back, I would incorporate that back into the wrestling, back when I first started fighting, because we have to do so many different we gotta do m M A training together, right. That's usually once you got everything put in, but then you gotta do wrestling. Ju gets to strength and conditioning. Then if you want to do some regular running, right then if you want to massage, therapy, chiropractor, yoga, all

this stuff, the extra then kickboxing, wing tie. You gotta find time for all that, and that balances you don't understand exactly the divine balance. So for me, I knew I was a high enough level wrestler that people will have a hard time taking me down. If I needed to get one, I'm probably gonna get one. So I focus mostly on striking of my training, on striking, striking, striking striking. If I can outstrike the striker, if I can dictate what a fight go, I'm gonna win most

of the fight. Yeah. I like I like Jake Paul too, man. I like him. I like him as I like him as a person. I think he's a very smart business man too. He's smartest. He's dumb and ship, but he's smartest. Hill. Yeah, I think he's done. I don't think he's done. I think he does dumb ship, but he does it. It's part of the act, you know what I'm saying. It's part of what it's part of the act to get what he wants you know, when I say he's dumb, I mean like he's that person that don't care. Right,

he'll get hit and you think it's funny. And he got he got to. Some guys just have dumpy power. We call it, like you can just and I have that, so I understand how dangerous it is. You don't matter where you had in a fight. If you can get there from right here, from right there, I can knock you out and you can boom and you get on the right spot, you down. He has that, and he knows that, and all he's really done. He's learned how

to put himself in position to throw this punch. And it was my number one punch and the number one thing somebody could have done to get hit by it is react and drop the hands. And he got me with my own ship because I would always faint. I was always love with changing. I would always make you think I'm going to something different, and when you bite on it, it's over. It's too late by then. So with that punch and just his ability to kind of not give a fuck, right, and he's training hard. He's

letting y'all think he's not, but he's training hard. You don't have no kids, You don't have nothing that's stopping him. You don't have any restrictions on wealth. He can bring in the best trainers, the best nutrition, right, and this whole thing is now formed around that, so he can get better fashion than somebody. They don't have enough money for the top trainers, right, they got three or four kids. They got a four time job. They gotta keep up at the same time, right, or they're of age where

their bodies beat up, and now they don't. They can't do massage, therapy, chiropractic work, yoga. So he that has nothing stopping him. Plus everything is a bucket list. Everything is a prank, right or a bet. And then he's wired a little weird. That's just kind of a recipe that we haven't seen before. Would you fight him again for sure? What kind of bridge you're gonna need? I mean, he knows what to pay me, you know. Yeah, we we we we did all right, And I made no

money to nobody else. Nobody else made him money like I did. No other fighter, not Anderson Silver, not we made money on that fight. And the thing about it is nobody had to build up in the prescott. I called him out and I called him out. I really should have been calling out the people that issued him the culture. Right, you can't vote without it being in being given right a bark and flower as many hours

and minutes as they want to. If it's nothing dead on the ground, they're not gonna come down and get it. So when you look at the rap culture and you look at the people that are looking to get clicks and they want this new niche of YouTuber, right, they're all in the studio where they all Kiki Ki went right, But they're not they're giving him the culture. So I called him out. I said, while you got on the five necklaces, you ain't nipsey hustle. Who in your neighborhood

dressed like that? You're like ud Niver I signed from Ferguson, the number one murderous city in the country. Now where are you from? Who's just like that? Who talked like that? Nobody? I said, you're the rap you're listening to? Is why what I live where people around me? My family currently still right, So you're you look stupid, you goofy and your dogs won't even tell you. And everybody got quiet. But I was the first one that that was came

at him in a real, real way. So now when you look at the build up, no build up is gonna match that. What we really should do is fight at M M A because a lot of people want to see what happens if we fight, and that's not going I doubt if Jake would do that. That definitely would not be to his advantage. And Jake, like I said, Jake is a pretty smart Jake is pretty smart about giving himself a winning chance, and that that's not that

would not be wise. Let's go back to Ferguson man um So Michael Brown shooting where he was murdered by officer uncivilized m Daryl Darren Wilson. Now, where where were you during that time? On the plane coming from Vegas? I took my son August night. It was his birthday. So I was flying on the plane. I was landing it in St. Louis and then I was gonna take a nap, and my phone crazy and like you okay, okay, okay, okay, you don't like what's going on. And they showed me

what happened. They showed the riot stuff. Um but but I found out about it. But I used to date that's like my street in my neighborhood. So I should date a girl in the building where he dropped that right in front um that quick trip. I can walk through from my house. I've been there many million times where they rited at. So this is what Florence and that's where the riots happened at in my street of Chamber, So I'm touching it. So my barbershop, they didn't touch

my barbershop. People outside with machine guns and not this one. They burned the building into the side of it. They burned the build on the other side. There's a lot of people outside of Ferguson that did that. So it was a big, big uproar, and I had that. I was in a training camp during that time. And the funny part is I was filming straight out of Compton, and we were filming the riot scenes and straight out of Compton while the real riots was going on in

my city. Yeah, now you were. I've spoken about the ride, the riots in the in the rest, the looting. You know, Um, how much flag did you get from black people? None about that, none, Because at the end of the day, I still stood for what was right. I still still for I grew up in Ferguson. We if somebody pulled behind you, who got you? All Ferguson got you. It

was a known thing. It was always that way. Always pulled over, my dogs, pulled over, beat up, throwing the pantiwagons for no reason, all the time, racial profile, and all the time, all your lights out, let me check your car all the time. So we didn't recognize that that was something that was not normal. We thought every city had one of the fergus and people there. So

I didn't get no slacker. Yeah, I didn't get no slack because what I was saying was like, if I'm gonna turn some ship up, I ain't gonna turn my own neighborhood, my own street. And it was not the people in Ferguson. So the people that live in our city, they're mad. People came from out of state to loot, out of the city to loot, to vandalize. They didn't have to live there. They have to watch that, you

know what I mean. So I just seen business owners that I know, beauty supply stores, liquor stories that I've known for so many years since I was a kid, you know, I mean, I've been working my whole life. I was sweeping there in the barbershop. So when people outside looking like, all my ship going, what do I go from here? Right? They have nothing to do with that. So I was I was kind of tired about that, but I was more so tight that I put together a really big play for the UFC to get involved

with it. I said, I'm from this city. The city mean a lot to me, right, And I said, it's a lot of people like myself. I got a buddy that's a trumpet player that's played in the Grammys at eighteen years old, Beyonce, Mary J. Blige, jay Z. He's everywhere a composer, right. I got a person that's a um engineering bills missiles for for Boeing. Right. But they all came from the city. Why don't we show case the good that comes from the city. Why don't we

bring about a change. Why don't we go and try to raise some funds to put this baby back together and increase awareness on the police brutality and how do we deal how do we all this problem? They didn't want nothing to do with it. Man, did you did you talk to what's his name, the big guy start? He told me, He told me I had a fight coming. I was fighting at my college China, and if you go back and look in my fighting my college China, you'll see I'm warning the St. Louis Had, which is

technicus supposed to get fined. We weren't supposed to wear any other license stuff. But I snuck it through and I got I had the St. Louis Had on that because I'm like my CD hurting right now and I want to I want to go out and represent for them once again. A lat two men, two week fight. I beat this dude skill skull in sixty seconds and I made a strong statement and I dedicated that fight to my city. So I talked to him about it.

He didn't want nothing to do it. He wanted me to stay away from the city, can make it to the fight. He wanted me to stay away from the city so I can make it to the fight. That was it. But but that, but that went on, The ryots went on for an entire year. At any point he could have stepped in and said, okay, we want to do something to think. I think politically he's pretty clear on where he stands. Um on that, you know what I mean? People that were um for the not

for the riots. Like I don't want to say black lives matter, because everybody like got an issue with what they were really doing with the money and the entity. I was saying that black lives matter the phrase because they do, right we we don't. We didn't see that from any other um nationality where they were just shot up and just no patience and we didn't see that right, but it was constantly shown what the people that it was. It was easy to just pole right. So that's what

I was saying. For he, I don't I don't. I can't really speak for him. I don't know what he did, but I did definitely put that on the table. I thought it had been a huge opportunity fighting in a different country because when I went there, it was monks coming from India. Um, Jake Cole was there on my dog, Nate Parker came in. Everybody was there to show they loved support in St. Louis and Ferguson. They came down there. Jaco,

he just pulled up the boxes like dog too. So what the cop did, man was just that was terrible. The trip part about it is the d o J investigated, Uh, the whole entire Ferguson Police department and found uh massive corruption, uh and descriminate. That's but from what I understand, not a lot has changed. Uh Man, my dogs have been I remember vividly my homie. They took him behind a convenience store, put phone boots in his shirt and beat him. Because you want bruised as much. They beat the dog

shout out of him with billy clubs. There's not there's not nothing new. It's been our friend of Liz in Houston right now. I was golfing with him yesterday. You got out the car and slapping blow God and slapped the kid. Yeah, ship, I watched What do you Do Help your dog out? Isn't Ferguson with black. I don't know the exact dynamics, but there's a lot of really nice parts of when you think of Ferguson. Ferguson, it's not really like St. Louis. North side. St. Louis is

the trenches. That's the city city. Ferguson technically is in the suburbs. But they just like any if somebody see gang culture in California, right, but they don't live there. Most people in St. Louis don't move. It's like a nest of city. Right. So people are protecting these same blocks for four damn years. You got ogs and sixty years old still banging on the same corner that they

was representing fourteen. Right. So now when you got that mindset, they look at California and they want to turn up to match that level of violence or match that level. So they get they want to feel like they got that credit, right, but they go above and beyond. And that's why St. Louis was a murder capital for so many years in a row, right before the pandemic. So now when you think about that, that that category got people that are turning up, you've got law enforcements that

are they ain't getting no respect. When I see the police behind me or anyone, I don't look forward, don't move, don't breathe. That's what we do, right, Like they don't move, don't breathe, put on job, slow everything right, and it should be a situation where they're protecting and serving. Now some police officers that get a bad rap, and maybe Mike Brown got a bad rap from the from the kids. I was like, now I ain't doing nothing, you know, I dressed the same way, and this dude was probably

I don't know, it wasn't Darren whatever to do. They didn't. This person probably was tired of getting um told get the funk out of my face, no respect right. Probably probably was not the popular dude growing up, probably had all type of stuff, and he used his authority to get off. That's all that happened. He got off on the kid. He needed to go to sign walk. There's nothing else he needed to do. Ultimately, I believe that the reason why he shot him because he was black.

Because all of that those things can be true. That he was being told to get the funk out of my face. And I'm sure some white people have told him to get the funk out of my face. You Peo wanted to get off, said that he reached in the call for his fire arm. That right there should

have been. You know, that's still be in the end of that story because when we see the laws pull up and we we're not gonna run, but we're not gonna be you know, going all in their car and trying to talk to them and you know, leaning in their ship. Man, I ain't gonna I'm not coming up to that car. I wouldn't even imagine that. I wouldn't even imagine he lies his ass off and and and the judicial system is so fucked up. Until they accepted that line, they prepared the whole city for two days.

A lot of times they killed. They don't even interview them. They don't get no statements to anything. They get the hang out and kick it and they go. They get to be anonymous until you get the story. Right. Did you see the autopsy? Yeah? Man, he had shots in the back of his form, bro, And didn't he have a shots in the back of arm and nothing shot it from the back? Man? Yeah. They they prepared the city for two weeks because they knew when the verdict

came out. They knew everybody's gonna turn up. So I got pictures on my phone right now, um humleys everywhere, park everywhere, prepared, martial law, um, national card, everything you can think of already. So we already knew what the verdict was. If it wasn't, then why would they need that. Nobody's gonna go crazy because justice was served. So they was prepping, um, like some people I know that works in like the government offices. They kind of already kind

of like guys that need to be prepared. This is about to go down, and it went down? How much have changed? Sense? Um? You know, to be honest, no matter where I'm at, I try to just I saw the South the way. Did that black attorney getting the black DA getting I don't think so it was a black d A at one time, wouldn't it. I don't. I would have to check on that. I think it was a black d A that that that that, Um, we gotta looking at that, Willie. I think the d

A was well was he should still be in office? Well, Ferguson is is big on police policing for profits, just like all of the other cities around America is. And that's the fundamental problem with police. Not a lot of owners of homes. And they got quotas and taxes. They're trying to like they're trying to get it through the tickets, they're trying to get it through the South. He could get a get a ticket. Yeah you no, he had on his mind to kill h Yeah, he wanted to

kill him. It was hunting the season four hand to be Yeah, that's cold bloody man. And and and that's a Commonwealth state, right, So I don't. I don't expect for black people to get up fair um shaking that justice system at all. When you come to those states like that, it's tough. It's real that one was one and everybody's always a clear case of guilty. Shout him in the from in the back, bro, they had man have to shoot him at all? I mean he could have.

I mean, I don't know the protocol, but I don't know what some damn sweet fake to say that a day before some ship, right, or or a few hours before. Yeah, they man, come on, uh man, what do we do to fix that? Fix this um racial uh disparity, this this uncomfortable conversations being treated. I don't give a funk about the conversation. I love to have the conversation all the time. But what do we do to to to to make them stop working with us like this? Don'tly.

The way that I feel the change you is to have those uncomfortable conversations and have law enforcement chiefs and have people of the community come together and work out is really authority that's been hoarded over right, That's all it is. But ain't that what we always been trying to do. Come to an agreement and talk and all that ship. I really haven't seen much much of that. We all talked out man, this this conversation has happened

every every single day. Uh. I think that in order to to get some justice, to get some some real to be treated like human beings, I think number one, because we live in a capitalistic society. Number one, we should uh practice group economics. That's number one, because we we got to spend our money with each other, and we have to we have to pool our resources. I mean, we have to do exactly. The Jewish community already showed us how to do it. They the blueprint is right there.

So that's one. And and because you know when once you get one should get the money, you get the power. You get to get the power, you got the influence, and and and you influence the decisions and government. You know, you influence these municipalities. You know, these cops all of a sudden they start acting right. The reason why they don't mess with certain people because they know what's gonna come with that. You see, it's not that they it's

not that they have not been trained properly. It's that that they pick and choose when they want to use that training properly. That's that's the point. So I think the training cameras and how do you things that they really should train martial arts. If you got to sustain or you gotta initialize somebody without using your force, you should be able to do that. It used to be like that. It used to They used to would put

in a little work. They would chase if you know, you start running the run, you run, you know it shoot you in the back. You know it used to be when even they did shoot you in the back, that was automatically. Uh you know you're fired. You know that's an automatic lawsuit. Now you shot him in the back. Uh, well, I feel for my life. Yeah, you know. So the other point that I was gonna make this is a tooth.

I think this is a twofold remedy. The other one, the other side is uh something that I can't even mention. And I think that we've done everything else, and you got to read between the lines on the second one, I already know you. Well, if you don't do that, I can't. I can't I can't do man. Get us canceled I think I get us canceled up in this. Let's talk about your acting career. Man, you're doing good, man good. You're good at that. Man, You're really good

at that. Man. You know, like, uh, what what's coming up next? For? You know? I just I just um, I just did I like, hey, switch that sub. I support that. But I know what you're saying. Yeah, I don't know what he's saying. But tell everybody the movies that you've you've been in the roads that you played. I played t Bone and straight up straight out of content for the Lynch Mob. I did Sons of Anarchy,

Asians of Shield, Um Olympics is Falling, Kickboxer, I did UMST. Recently, I did Cobra Co. I played a Sense That's the number one show on Netflix. I did uh one of my favorite ones. I did cut Through CD that the resid did so It's me my homie, um to Meet your Ship. We played Tupac in the documentary Terrence Howard Wesley Snipes Um. That movie was number one on Netflix as well. But that was like a hurricane Katrainer store work, and that was hard. That was hard. But I've been

a lot of films. But but the but the but the money isn't fighting And I feel like guy, guy showed me the way I was gonna walk away, and uh, I ain't hit that yet. So I'm building up to to finish the last chapter, do it the way I was supposed to do, and then everything else goes off of that. People put you in the movies. If it's this guy versus you, they're gonna use you. If it's pretty even you, you're gonna you're gonna get a Will

Smith role here pretty soon. No, but I just want you to be prepared when he walked up there and slap the ship out of you. I'm a faidback. I'm letting hit the air. I'm gonna let Hi hit there. I support him slapping um Chris Rock. I know you do. Yeah, why because he's tired of people? Man, Everybody got something to say people too. He all right, I don't. I

can't speak on what's going on this household. But it seemed like, you know, everybody Internet got something to say about him, got something to say about the situation ship where all these different things they've been kind of coming at him. So I think he was just fed up. Man, that's the man's house. No, I don't, I don't have no, I don't have no problem with it? What's going on

in his house? But I'm saying the internet, like I feel like, to be honest, I feel like he actually hasn't figured out do what you wanna do because no matter what people saying, you don't have to feed them, you have to live with them. No matter what religion we worshiped, we're violating it anyway, are we not? So we're living okay? Well, most people are ninety people religion? What religion? Not here? I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm stomped.

We'll come back to it. Just like, but just think about that when you think about that pressure, right you are we always like I had to reuse Kanye West, but he said a phrase that he said, the worst thing that ideal with in school is what what's the worst thing about school for you? We're using school was the worst thing about it? Should for me? Going when you when you went there? The test? Right? The worst thing for most people the worst thing of the anxiety

you get is when you get that test. That's where you get the grade at right, So why are we bringing that into our lives where we're letting people test us, where we're letting people are you should be dating this girl because you make this amount of money, or you should be doing that. Keeping up with the Jones is pretty much right, he said. I don't. I don't have to be what you want me to be. I don't. I don't go out there and try to pass your test. I just am. This is what I do. I just

said it. And I feel like, if you're already doing in any way, just be who you are, if the person you with and I got this understanding, and that's the way I live in. Why does it matter what other people think? Like society is this today is okay, tomorrow's cancel, right or wrong? Right? It's the worst stock you can invest into, So why would I keep investing into the stock society tells us date off. I'm gonna date this girl because she gotta fat ask. She's cute,

that dada. I don't know what kind of connection I got with her. I don't know none of that. All I know is my eyes want and I want to date her, right, the same people that set you up to date that way. I worked for TMZ. I have my own show, you know what I mean, emails I got, you know what I mean? My homies. I had to like, we didn't get that email for my dog that's in this sport or that sport, or we need to switch

this up a little bit. Right. So now, when you think about it, the same people that sent you up to date that way are the people that's waiting on you to fail the most the most. Watch Kardashian or divorce. Nobody's talking about the goody two shoe stuff. Everybody want to talk about this person. Yes, so that's the same setup. So why are we investing that. Do what you feel comfortable with, do what you wanna do, live your life, make the people around you happy, and say true to

what you are. And that's what I That's what I feel like we all should do. So I feel like Will it's kind of doing that, but I feel like he's a little scared to kind of just be this is what I am. Right, So now you gotta take a little bit of a little little heckling from here and there. I think you have time to slap the ship out of Chris Rock. Bro, Chris Rock, are they cool? I mean, I mean, were they cool with each other? With dropping at the bars? I mean, it's it's it's

currently Bro. You don't think I mean, I wouldn't slapped them up there on stage like that. I don't know that I wouldn't. I wouldn't have went up on that. Well, you don't know. I do know what that's like trying to tell Will Smith how to feel You don't know that. That's like somebody trying to tell you how to feel. Well, I know I'm smarting than that. Its facial special showed me that it was a little bit more behind. I'm gonna tell you something, bro, I don't know if I

would have done it or not. I don't know. I would hope I wouldn't have done it. I would have hope I had restraint and went to the bad because because I know, because I know the because or something like that. I would hope that I would have had that restraint. But I'm not sure if I would have had it, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I think I think we should slap all disrespect. Maybe not in that setting, again, I think we should slap out all

disrespect in general. I think we should. Yeah, I mean, just think about who we do we get into it. Somebody step on your shoes, but you're gonna let somebody disrespect your woman you're not gonna say nothing. People didn't get shot over that. That's true. Okay, I'm I'm gonna stay get back, and I wouldn't. I wouldn't let either slide. You know what. Let me say when I was you're not gonna disrespect my woman. But as far as like stepping on my shoe when I was younger, I would

take supreme sense to something like that. Somebody stepped on my shoe and just excuse me. See things like man, you say excuse me, you know, like say excuse me because you know that's what that's what happened with me. And be a build and say excuse me. You know when he bumped the first time, my man him, he didn't say excuse me, bumped me and then say excuse me, and that's what set me off. Like man just said excuse me. Just be a gentleman of body, you know,

because I bumped the people. Anytime you're in a crowded space, especially, you know you're gonna bump into people whatever, you might step on somebody incidentally, you know what I'm saying. Accidentally and you just say, hey, man, my fault, my bad. They ain't got they don't make you look weak. In fact, I feel like it makes you look stronger. You know, a man, I bad and keep it moving to be

a gentleman abody. But somebody just do it and didn't act like you know, like you're nothing, like you wasn't even there. Don't don't apologize, especially when you're willing to do it yourself. That that get under my skin. Man, I'm having an asked with tech man. Yeah, Asma, do your thing. He didn't do y'all funny like that. His birthday is a few days away. Man, his birthday is eight days after mine. That's my guy. He's a scarpio. How many decades I've been going at this? Three decades?

Three decades? I tell him, Man, I'm gonna die, he said. I didn't say kick. I do not curse. I'm a Christian. Hey man, I'm done. Man, Do you do you? Do you have any more um uh things that you want to address? Because I'm sick of will. You're sick of will name will? Ain't that I can do about that? Man, I can't breathe. You know, we were talking about He's glad. I got as with Tech. I didn't sound mad. I said, Asthma, do your thing, well that sounds happy to me. I'm

just saying, you know, like asthma, do you thing? Man? You know they ain't hating nothing like that. That sounds like, hey man, what's next show? You know? Man? For me, I got I got a lot of stuff coming up. I got a TV show coming up, My god, TV show. I'm on TV show IM working on right now. What with Uh it's a comedy. It is a comedy comedy. I got you way funny and him got a comedy show. So I'm doing that next fighting obviously, and then I

got some other business stuff I'm doing as well. But if I would share some light on anything, especially being in here and sat not St. Louis Houston. Um, we can't go off the show without talking about what happened the other day. I don't know when the show gonna aaron, when it's gonna come out, but we lost somebody in the in the community um of music, and just yet again that sad thing. And I just want to send condoless to his family, to take off family, to anybody

he left behind. I don't know if he has kids, but I just know in general, UM, we gotta find a way to stop this because culture is music and these artists can't go around and do their job. But I'll feeling, man, Yeah, that Shu really really cut man, the most dangerous career and really cut man. Uh, he was dope, can I be read? He was dope. I mean my son was talking about that. He was slept on for a long time, for a long as time.

But man, the boy was and he wasn't even not in no ship though, you know what I mean, like no ship man, God damn. Yeah. But we got all these eye openers over and over again. It's like what do we do? Like you know what I mean, these artists they're going out here and they're entertaining and they're bringing so much life to music. Everybody, white, black, green, purple orange. They selling all these shows. But how do we protect them? We we we we have to reinstall

instructions to the game. Oh Jeeves, gotta let these young kids know that. I have to let me installed the instructions. Man, you know right now, the instructions was when we went to go do anything in the city, we did what we had to do, and we got the fun back to our rooms. We got back on base. If we we went to the club, we all went to the club together and we knew, we knew coming in there, we knew leaving here that that was their town. Yeah, and whatever the fun the head going on in they town,

that's what went on in they town. We're stayed in our lane. We're stayed in our lane. Bro see jack boys right now glorified and then the pandemic boys. Man, But but it's making the it's making it. It's like this, You've got people that are glorifying that, especially when the pandemic. It's nothing to be mass. Your identity is covered anyway because everybody got a mask on, right, So you got that, and then you got the culture. Now that's really flashy.

So much jury, so much money and face, so much this, so much that so now people are glorifying in their music robbing people, right, So the violence is already gonna jump to the roof. And you got people if I know he in here and he got this on me, or now we get into an altercation, it becomes pride. Pride's been taking us off for so many years, but

it's misplaced. Pride seems to be proud about the wrong ship, you know, like that you should be proud about being able to take care of your family, you know, being there for your children, to see your kids raised by you and not another man. You know, you should be proud that that. You know, you you were able to buy your parents a house after they've taken care of you for your whole life, you know, to be able to retire your grandmother. You know, that's just that's the

ship you should be proud of. You should be proud that you escape the traps that they got out here for you. They got these traps everywhere for us. You should be proud that you were able to escape and you didn't let them send you to the penitentiary. May maybe you made a mistake or whatever, and then you know, the lawyers got you out of a gym. You said, okay, I learned my list nobody. That's the type of ship

you should be proud of. Be proud that you sent kids, you sent your kids to college and they got degrees or you know, they're self sufficient, independent adults. Be proud the ship like that. We're proud of the wrong type of ship. You're proud of ship that you don't own, and ship that you don't control. You know, that's the ship that we're proud of and the ship makes absolutely no sense. And it all stems from a lack of

self esteem. You got these big dudes out here running around at with these guns, and everybody got a gun, and they think the gun gives them the power. When if the gun gave you that much power, why is it that somebody can take the gun away from you. Yeah. So these guys, no matter how big they all, no matter how dangerous they say they are, once they go out there and do something dummy, uh, when people come and get them and they just go freely. But but

before the people come, they gorill us. They kill us, they carrill us. Nobody can stop them. They uncontrolled, the uncontrolled them. The moment them people come in, they acquiesque. They fall back, you know, they fall back, and they take take whatever those people give them, fifty years, sevnty years, eighty years, a hundred and ninety years, whatever, and they go do that time whether they like it or not.

They bow the funk down. But why do you why you gotta go through all of that when you see people before you going through it already and already losing their lives, already putting their mama's on the front row, already abandoned, their abandoning their children, already spending all of their days and something in a damn cage with grown ass. Man's going men going to take showers? Uh, dickor ass?

You know? Uh standing Dicta asked with men in a shower, bro Like, why would you put yourself in that position? When you see it's happening to everybody else? Why would you go through all of that? It makes absolutely no sense. Doesn't get our brothers the way to cost before they do? You know what they gotta do. You gotta get You gotta do what I learned to do. Love my self, because when you love yourself, you ain't gonna put yourself in certain predicaments. You're gonna change the way you eat.

When you love yourself, it's hard. You it ain't just gonna be the best. You know, it's not gonna just be about who you decide you're gonna hang around. It's gonna be you're gonna take care of your body and your your your your mind and your spirit in every sense. And you you just it's certain kind of energy. You're not gonna even put yourself around. Once you learn uh to love yourself you say, you know what them foods over that. They shoot at that club every damn week.

It's a damn shooting over that. I think I'm not gonna go over there because they shoot over there and the people that go there seem like they don't like living. I like living right, you know, dude, this ship feel good.

This is motherfucker this oxygen. This ship feels good to make if you've heard about what happened with us when we when he was when we was supposed to say, um, play ball with the Astros, we were getting ready to do our world serious thing or whatever, and Willie went into his speech, but he gave a similar speech like that at Many may part. And that's why we didn't get a chance to say playball because they cut his mic off. Ladies and gentlemenmen's it's been great. It's been

great conversating with you guys. It's been great having Tiring. Appreciate your mom. Look, it's been great having Tiring on the show. Thank you for coming on the show. And I appreciate you guys. I appreciate and um yeah I got some game too at that ship. Man. I'm just here that the antagonize him to bring it out, but he's dope with this ship. But thank you for coming out, Bro, I'm glad to be here. For sure, for sure, we

gotta do it again. This episode was produced by A King and brought to you by The Black Effect Podcast Network and I Heart Radio