The Tezlyn Figaro Episode

of the head and then blame it on us. Don't get it twisted on code and we danceing for no buttoment biscuits. It's Willie d y'all scar faces in the building. Collectively we are the get old boys, reloaded, reloaded with another episode of information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world. In the studio Teslin forgo, what's up? Glad to be here with that. I'm gonna

get it out of the way. You are perhaps the greatest political commentator of our time, of our time, of our times, and I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you why I feel that way. Uh, you are nonpartisan and that in your own words, you don't give a damn about Democrats are the Republicans and you call it like you see it. When the Republicans get it right, you acknowledge it, you praised them. When the Democrats get it right, you acknowledge them. You praise them.

When they get it wrong, you go in on them, and you go in on the Republicans when they get it wrong. That's what makes me think, That's what makes me. And it's not just going in. It's the way you articulate your message. You're very knowledgeable and you know what you're talking about and can't nobody. I I have not seen anybody funk with you at all, and fat I see a lot of your contemporaries when they're chairing the panel with you, And where did that come from? That's amazing? Well,

thank you. Um, that's an honor, first of all, glad to be here, feel like I'm at church giving all to God, to the pastor to face hob Willie did get a voice, UM, But no, it's an honor, UM. And I don't take that lightly. I'm I'm humbled by that because when you ask what it what it comes from, it really comes from just being an m C on the mic. You know, I would have never thought, do I need to free style? Let me hear the free style. I don't. I don't want to be busted out. I

don't want to be busted. Yeah it's did you rap for real? Yeah? Yeah? Really? What was your name? Well, technically in the fifth grade it was luscious, imprescious. They didn't really count. And then I was called sugar Tea after my Then I thought it. I was a little kid, look at face, a little camp. But you know, we grew up in that error was about the microphone, you know, when you when you when you here. I never thought that hip hop would take me this far. I never

thought that politics will take me this far. Like to literally be sitting down with you. See why I fight so hard to get into the political Absolutely, it's a natural transition. When you talk about politics and you talk about what we fight for, what we stand for, what we believe in. It really comes from the same thing that we rap about, the same thing that we talk about. I heard the craziest thing to day, and it came

from it came from somebody higher up. I can't say no names because I can't like he told me, don't say nothing about it. But a very higher up told me that. Another higher up it was like, we don't even Republican, Like, we don't even you know, uh, solicit y'all vote. We don't even want y'all vote. And if we you know, we we don't, we don't. You can move to our neighborhoods, but we don't want you there.

And I was like, god damn. Really, like they eat regardless if we was Republican or whatever, they don't want us around. They don't want us with them. They will not put us down, like they won't put us in. Like I'm like, god damn. And I was under the impression that if you was a black Republican, you will welcome in the Republican Party. But that's not true. You black, they don't want you in their period. They don't even want your vote. They don't even come to your neighborhood

and ask you for your vote. Have you ever noticed this? All the white Democrats that come in, they the black churches, they know they got us, they know they got us pen But the Republicans know, Yeah, I have a I have a more than a few conservative friends. They really

push I call grass roots, and then concrete roots. You know, there's grassroots for the grass tops, the end up, l CP, the Urban League, and then I created my own concept concrete Roots that comes from Pox, you know, the Rosy group, Concrete the street street, the street level, which is deeper than the grass you know, really getting down to the authenticity of what hip hop stands for. When you really

look at what hip hop stands for. And I remember years ago when everybody thought it was a game, and they made fun of me in Florida because I said, nobody ever put hip hop in this. We got enough wrap labels, and now we need districts with constituents. The idea of really bringing hip hop the story that it tells into the fold and then taking that and making a constituent so that people can vote for people like you, and people like you then really understand where it is

we come from and how do you change that? Because everything in hip hop is talking about our current conditions, what conditions we want. Talks about the Second Amendment to write to carry, talks about getting paper, capitalism, talks about all of the things which ling moderated. Right Actually, when you really think about hip hop but still having a conscious of loving our own people and having social issues that matter. Hip hop is a direct correlation to what

politics should be. So not only do Republicans fear that, but Democrats feel that as well. I remember when you were running and you and I met and yeah, and I said, you gotta let face be face, like he gotta they have to know. It's like what it's brad, he gotta be there. No, no, no no, no, no, yeah, it gotta be faced. Because everything that you talk about, everything that you exemplify when you say, damn it feel good to be a gangster, that's what Putin is doing

right now. Yeah, like on some gangster ship. Yeah. So if we include that, then there's more voices for people like us. They say, you know, I got a place in this. It's not as complicated as people think. And so when you answer your question where you got there from? I got it from this microphone. My it wasn't I set out to be a rapper. I won the little Remember when Sprite had the contest when they were doing a spright eye contest. I want that. Hey, okay, I

get my little credit. I want that. I want to R and B contest with public announcement. But it wasn't in me to keep pushing the music. I was kind of hard. I mean that's what makes me so good and and momentary, you know it really is. Yeah, it's the freestyle. It's the gift to the freestyle. People say, well, how do you know what? I certainly can't predict what my opponent will say. I don't give my topics until I'm literally an hour before I'm on the air. So

it's the ability to freestyle. It's the ability of rocking this mike. It's the same thing. Um so when it comes from when when you say how did you get that way? It's being authentistic of who I really am and what I believe in and everything that I that I grew up and really communicating that. It's MC. It's the microphone commander. I just bring it to the political space and you can't fake that ship face. Like it's a lot of people in the commentary space. So while

I'm hip hop, I'm hip hop. They can love the music, but did you really live it? Like when when when the super Bowl happened? And like Mega's from the street really understand like what it means to see Dre on the stage and Snoop on the stage, Mary J. Blige on the stage view and like like to really live that, to know to me and to get some stitches in your face behind that, Yeah, that I'm sure, but it

was a celebration for those that lived that life. I saw a lot of people, you know, putting on their dickies and doing whatever and in the cliche of it all, which is cool, but there's a different it's a different level to that to really say, okay, we can make it,

we can go that far. The issue with the NBA, with the NFL separate and apart, but to really see the streets, to see somebody who's been shot five times on the stage and make it to be able to tell the story, and then to see East and West together, you know, when not that would have never happened. So that's what I try to bring. The politics. Just who I am. The bag is really to be honest. If I wanted to get the bag is quite simple to do. All I gotta do is go be a conservative and

mon Fox News. I gotta do is talk about black on black crime and Chicago when I get the bag. It's been offered to me several times. If I wanted to be a Democrat shield and just fight for the Democrats. That bag is there too. But I've always just been true to who I am and my character, um and really speak truth to power. And I want I want the hood involved in a way where where they haven't seen themselves, um to know that there's opportunity there for

you to. The politics is set up just like bloods and crips and the O G and the B G and the Y G and how you run the trap. The trap is the precinct, the work, the dope, the whole thing, like it's literally laid out exactly how you

run a set. And so my my biggest thing is even when I talk to my homies in Inglewood, when you have the Sofi Stadium in Inglewood, if y'all neggas can organize Inglewood family like the Electoral College and get it all over this country, what's the difference between you doing that and getting contracts at the Sofi Stadium and getting paper. So I'm I'm really about trying to, you know, be that voice and it's not again because it's really

who I am. But I still mix in you know, I got a couple of degrees and got a little bit of sin. Don't try to mix that in. Why hasn't the anti lynching bill been passed? Why? Because I know, you know, like when the Asian hate bill came out, that was immediate. Why why why why is it? Why why are they waiting so long to address the issues with Black America. Well, it moved so quickly on the other America. It's the lack of pressure. Um my my motto, my my my h mantra is pushed the line politics

until something happens. This is another reason why I want the streets so involved. We need more people that have nothing to lose that can push the line in a way that we've never seen before. Do we mean more people that don't got nothing to lose an office though, Absolutely, that's what we need more to Absolutely we need somebody to push that button. Absolutely, we need It's not even just the candidate, even the operative. I was a candidate for like three months and I said, Okay, that's not

for me. We need operatives, we need trainers, we need people. My favorite candidate commission and Regina Hill in Orlando, Florida. She was arrested twenty one times. Didn't give a damn one first one straight out the gate. What did she do for her city? What did she do? Now? I mean what did she do? I mean did she She was involved in the community, but she didn't come from the political space. Was first time Candida. She ran against

a sixteen year incumbent. Nobody believed it was literally hearing about two or three of us. We ran on a couple of thousand dollars, ran against an attorney sixteen or incumbent. But she was true to the game, She was true to who she was. Jeez, what made me understand that Trump was coming? She won in two thousand fourteen. It was her that made me say, Okay, something on the ground. There's a ground swell happening, a populist movement that's saying, Okay,

we don't see what y'all did. Let's let some other folks in here that that that that truly have a nothing to lose attitude, that's willing to push a line in the area um that others have not. That's why Trump won. Trump had no intention of women. Black people have been pushing the line for a long time, and there are a lot of disgruntled voters out there that are black and they're like, hey, man, I'm tired of voting for these negroes who and they get in and

they don't do anything. They just they act just like everybody else. They promised to make these promises and then they break them. They break them, they break them. There aren't a lot of people, even right here in Houston that you can talk to and yours talk to your tell that would tell you that my quality of life is better because I have this person as a city councilman, a woman, this person as a council uh congressman, accomplished woman. You know, so hold on, hold on, hold on, I

gotta make this point. How do you get people who have given up on the voting process to get back in? How do you get them like involved again? They need to run. You know, I talk about I'm a I'm a political tribute on Black News Channel and I say all the time, We're not gonna chase them, we replace them. Trying to get people to believe in something that they don't identify with it just makes no sense. We need to have people run on. Give damn what it's for.

A precinct chair, commissioner, uh party chair, whatever, the the dog catcher. People that can literally identify. I tell em Cate all the time home, Why don't you go around for Compton man syl You know, whyn't you go around for Component? It ain't got nothing lose. Let's just see you. You you deal with thousands of thousands of kids every month.

How can we turn those children's parents and the voters when you really look at the numbers and you look at how many people actually go to the polls, which is just a couple of thousand people. I mean, you can flip an election between five people thousand people. That's your high school class, that's your just the homies in the hood. So they have to first identify with somebody that speaks their language. You're trying to go to a foreign country and speak a language that they don't understand.

They don't see themselves in that position. Once you started, and you I explained, I wasn't joking when on some of the electoral college. I explained to the blood and out in the Houston's different because I know y'all dealing awards and different things like that. I come from Mire West, which ran offense for the West Coast, so it was very much you know, gang related. I grew up in a part. You know, I grew up in a blood territory, and when I break down to people like the electoral

college is literally like Inglewood family. When I'm explaining to the home, it's like, okay, you know how the big home that generation may not have a lot of people, but they have more power than the young homies that may have thousands and thousand. That's the electoral college, and the homies be like, Okay, I get what you're saying.

When you explain it in a certain way, you explain that, Okay, the governors the o G, that the state rep is you know, the y G, that the state senator is the y G, that the uh the what the state senators the y G, the state rep is the b G. When you explain that to people on the way, okay,

I get it. They understand organizing power, and I'm not saying that the only you know, the only angle to it because I talk all demographics across the board and I remember the homies and be like, why do you talk to me that way, like that's the only thing I can understand, and said, no, it's not that, it's the only thing that you can understand. I'm trying to explain that you displaining you that you've been doing this

game ship all along, You've been organizing all along. If you can organize award third ward or get one group of people on board to do something for the negative, why not can we switch that and get the positive? And it makes sense. You would lect your sheriff, you would let your city council, you wouldlect the people that decide should a basketball court go there? Should and after school program go there? Should? The police not be as hot on your block because you actually elect the sheriff.

So when you explain that and have conversations and you don't have operators in the game to say no, no, no, don't don't say that, Willy, no, no, no, don't say that, scar Phace, do this, do that, Then now we start to make change. And that's what they fear. You're going do a training all over the country with the hbc U S to the hood. They fear those two demographics coming together and saying, how can we, you know, learn from each other, how can we move I was a

veteran in the Air Force. You can't have a war without the army, the Air Force, the Navy, the Marines, everybody has a role to play. And if we start understanding that role and say no, let's let face go up and say this to that. But then it got to be a testlent in the background. It's gonna know how to move that weight too. It's all about moving weight, politics, power, money, the whole nine. And that's why you see sex and politics. You see powdering politics, you see the doping politics, you

see the power and politics. Everything from pussy politics, pimp and pastor, all of it is in politics. And they don't want us to get it and the homies to get it because the same homies that was willing to die for that flag, imagine if they take that same militia mentality and say I'm willing to die for mind, It's a whole new level of the game that they honestly just don't want us to have. Whether it be

Republicans are Democrats. I think that our our our voters are should be disappointed in themselves because they think are they figured at the vote? When after you vote and you and your your man get in that the fight stop. No, that's when the fight starts. Because if you vote Willie in and you know how Willie speak to the fire then will you can get in there and do what you want to do. It doesn't stop at the vote. And that should be another man. You should have used

somebody named black Kanye for some ship like that. You know, I'm I'm I'm for the people already, so that's automatic. I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do automatically what the people need to need done. You did, yes, sir, relaxed. But look at how we I use analogy a lot so people can get it when you say that's when the fight starts. Think about how we manage our personal relationships being black women. I can speak being a black woman. We talk about the black woman being the backbone quote

unquote of the Democrat Party. How hard do black women go for men that don't give them back what they should? So it's the same. And tell our men when you're the booty call some black women, some black women, but overall black women just in general. And this is not a gender you know, war thing, but overall, when you look at the numbers, when you look at what we get out of the relationship, that same mentality transfers over the voting. So I'll give you to be a clear

example when black women constantly saving American They brag about it. Oh, look, the black women saved America and this and and I'll tell him, he says, stop saying that ship. Ain't nothing cool about being the mistress. You say, the genie, and what the fun did you get out of it? So it ain't no different than when they they can come by at two am in the morning and he gets some masks and you roll on and you talk that ship all girl. Next time when he comes by, he knows,

he already know what it is. Politics understands action, just like a man and a woman, a female and male relationship action. So until we start understanding that when you say when you get into the relationship, that's when the fight begins. Think about in our relatelationships that we get into even when we with each other, we let our guards down. Okay, out there now, so I don't have to keep myself up. I don't have to remember on cater to you when she said, I still look good.

I still when you tap me on my shoulder, I still turn over. I still look good. I'm still putting in the work. The reason why, Beyonce, the reason why this and shall and that was Kelly's verse that did that was able to highlight that because even in relationships, you stop doing the work. And so people have to understand that voting is a relationship. If I if you and I get together and I say, well, now you're my man, now to get on you harder the most,

the natural reaction is what the funk you got me? Now? Why are you tripping? So people's voting has to It's the same thing. So I'm not surprised when I see how That's why I always do my thing. When I talk about politics, politicians, politicians, pimps, and pastors, it's the same talk game. And so we have to understand that relationship start. You have to keep me. So when I ask a group of folks, black men, black women, why are you not make these democrats work harder for you?

And then I look at how the man treat them, how the woman treat them. You don't require nothing from your woman. You don't have no boundaries. She can say do whatever is long she give you something. We shouldn't be confused on why this ship translates into Power's the same thing puts in politics, baby, the same thing. By the way, you know what I'm trying to get the

six conversation, We get that. When Trump was in office, one thing that I paid attention to is every time he got off code, they smacked his as immediately and he would retract, like almost within just twenty four hour period hours he was back on the apology trail like and and that was that was that was old, that was that were bad people on both sides. First he

said that was horrible. And you know, somebody gotten this in and say, hey, don't forget where you come from, don't forget who put you in there, because we will take you out just like we put you in. And they publicly said, you know what the difference is the Republican parties in the nineteen nineties, the Bloods literally read Republicans discipline. How is it that Inglewood in the nineties were able to maintain surrounded by nothing but crips, nothing

but crips happened to be blue. Remember in the nineties, crips kill crips. In the nineties, bloods didn't kill bloods. That's why they do now. But in the nineties they had a unity that was so strong. It was against cold. It was pushing the line no matter what right wrong, and indifferent. That's why Republicans are the minority in this country. But the way they pushed the line, they dpee, they

dpe their own folks. They discipline their own folks, where Democrats say, oh no, we don't want to say nothing, we don't want to whatever. If we look at just right now, trending to topics right now, when you look at s mac cript, discipline, get your ass beat in front of everybody. That's how it goes down. Nigga. You don't get to say anything or be anything, don't matter how long ago was. You get disciplined. That's how Trump moved.

That's why when I said he was a gangster, everybody hold you praising Trump because you know these kids now, I think gangster is a When I say gangster, I mean you really a gangster? They think ganster means like exactly. They think it's like me praising him one praising I'm calling for what it is. I'm appraising, Yeah, gangster. He did. He did whatever you wanted to do, did whatever the fun you wanted to do, whatever the want to do it. Trump was a hope. You know what I'm talking about?

I said, and I meant it. I'm here to represent it and gainst what. I never apologize. You see, that's one thing you ain't gonna get out of me. I'm not I'm not. I'm not Finna Strato. The fis either. Trump was a hope and he still lives a hole hote. But I'm saying, you know, I have a special disdain disdain for for Trump because because and this is not this is not me saying, you know, uh oh, I love Barack Obama anything, but Barack Obama still does represent blackness.

So when you see Barack Obama, you see a black man. Donald Trump had never publicly attacked a president until we got the first black president in office, and he said, Yo, let me see your birth certificate. He ain't never asked somebody else, He never asked another president any of those type of questions. He's never drilled anybody and stayed on and stayed on. The President's asked for an entire eight years and still and then another four years while he

was in office. So that was personal to me because in his mind, he's like, yeah, we can let you be mayor, you can be a chief of police, you can be a governor, you can be anything you want to. But you're not gonna be the commander in chief. And that was my problem. That's my problem with that dude. So you are just you just because he's racist, right,

Uh yeah, pretty much. But you should fucking fuck all of them then, because at some point no no no, no, no, no, no, no, you know how exact, because they were all racist towards black people exactly at some at the some extent you say Obama included, you ain't you're telling to know about the art, Okay, so you gotta hate all the motherfucker's Lincoln Washington? Uh who else they praised so highly? Uh? Fuck Andrew Jackson? I mean, what's his name? Yeah, Jackson?

Sucking him? All of them code that and the ones coming after Lea. I guess when we look at me and racist is not the end off for me. But go ahead, Yeah, I guess when I talk about what a gainst it, it's not a matter of praise. It's a matter of let's just I mean, let's examine the lyrics. I mean, this is y'all ship, this ain't my like when we say demn it feel going to be against getting voted in the White House. Everything looking good to the people to wear but the Mafia family is my boss.

So every now and then I owe a favor getting down. That's your lyrics. So when we talk about a gangster, it ain't about oh yeah I like Trump. It's about that nigga move like the mafia. I'm simply saying I'm calling a thing a thing, that's a camera, that's face, that's Willie, this is me. It's not about crazing. It is saying that he moves like a goddamn gangster. And so when a gangster say, I don't give a fuck, this is what it is. You like it, you like it?

You don't, you don't. I call that Mitch. I called out my people. I call that my mama, my grandma, the turtle. Yeah, it's simply calling that. The Democrat Party moves like you. Yeah, they move like transformers, they move like mars. They are afraids, they're scared it. I'm just

simply calling what is. But you know, kids, I don't really think the Democrats I'm talking about, at least the ones that especially in the South, I really don't think they're afraid to do anythink they don't what they don't. What I'm saying is that I don't think they're afraid. I don't think they're afraid to uppose certain things or whatever.

I think they're being on code. I think because on code in America is to uphold white supremacy and whether whether whether whether the Republicans get what they want or the Democrats get what they want, white supremacy always gets what it wants. True, But that's a different conversation, so it's more than one thing can be true. At the same time, they're all on colde two birds are the

same wing. Republican, Democrat, white supremacy. I'm with that. What I'm talking about is understand going back to your original question, how do we get more people involved? And what I'm trying to say is if we start doing this ship like a gangster party and understanding the gangster mentality, the gangster requirements to push a line, to move your set.

Democrats do not call each other out where a gangster will slap the funk out of you in front of everybody just to prove a point, because what you're never gonna do is disrespect my gangster. So that that's all I'm saying. That's why the Democrats come off as as weak as weak and it's not that they don't do it behind the scenes. I'm in the room when they do it. It's not that they don't hurt each other.

But it's on the slot. It's not a It doesn't motivate people on the outside to say there's some things that Democrats do by default that are good for our people. I wouldn't quick to say that it's not my job to cat for them, but obviously by default there's some good that has happened. But what I'm saying is people want to It's kind of like we grew up in an era where mommy, whoop your asks where you at? You show out in the store, in the store, right.

So it's the that's it. It's the same mentality. That's the differencetween how Republicans get down versus how Democrats get down. So I just drove the I just try to show the difference between the two, not saying what's right or wrong or not that that they're not both a part of the same system. Because they are. And so we go into the rabbit hole of who is better and who is right. I don't give a funk about neither

one of them. Like you said, the Democrats and republic I'm talking how do we get more of us involved. For our city commissioners are county commissioners. Our school board positions are precinct chair. If you're a precinct chair, you got a couple of hundred votes that you can partly to say, Hey, I got a couple hundred people that's gonna come to the polls. My mama, baby mama, their cousins, whoever. That's how we organized in Florida. We went after the

people that nobody went after. Everybody goes after the supervoter. We went after the people with the feelins. They couldn't vote, but they mama could vote, their baby mama could vote. Freedom to the polls, and let's get this popit. We're gonna make sure that your program, your nonprofit or whatever it is, we're gonna take care of that so you can actually have resources. That's my only concern. Answer question, respect, Let me answer a question. Is the Democratic Party playing

on black people? Wait a minute them because listen, man, because you know, the Democratic Party was the ones that was fighting to keep us in slaves. You do realize this, right, They wanted us to be slaves still to this day, you think they're playing on us to keep us in that in that box. You know, it's just a name, right, Democratic Republic. It's just a name. They just switched side. It's just a name. It's the same people, they just change their name. Okay, I agree that. Let's ask a pimp.

Let's just take the mentality. Do the pimp play on the home? I mean, do you feel more slim? Do he not want all the homes? I mean, it's what politics is. It's pimping. It's literally I expect that we raced to get to these poles and vote for these Democrats. We don't get a thing. But because we don't have our own pimp running, when does our when does our go?

We're gonna what is that? That's what. But if we have the conversation, they have to be able to see themselves in that and get enough people on the team that can explain this is your place. I'll give the analogy and I give it all the time. Pimps, politicians, pastors. It's the same speech me and you us. When the politician me, the first thing you start talking about is me. I'm Tess and Figaro born and raised x y Z went to such and such school. That's the me. Do you?

Then I start seeing you? You know what, You and I got something in common. I did it just in this conversation. Well, you know, we grew up in an era where this and that and actually all much older than me. But the point is I grew so so I started. Then I start talking about you, and then I say, us, how do we relate? Okay, well, if you and I can get together and we can get some of these people together, and we can go down

the third ward and we can get them together. All I need you to do is get fired alysses campaign and let's go to the post. Me and you us. Now, let's talk about that's the politician. Let's talk about what the pimp do. Let's talk about the pastor me, you us? What is the pastor doing? The church called by the Father. The Lord told me that I was chosen. I'm the one nobody you you you know how to pass and

say you gotta to two shall agree. And if you agree and you sow a seed in me, you know it's gonna the prayer is gonna be all of a sudden answer. Differently, because I got a direct line with the Father, the pastor. I'm the head, I'm I'm I'm in charge. Then I say, you do you How many times have you been in church where they say I know I'm talking to somebody up in here. I guess I'm talking to myself. I gotta prophetic in me too.

I'm a blooeleg pastor. So when I say I know, I know I'm talking to somebody, I know somebody here to understand what it is I'm saying, Damn, he talking about me, He talking about me. Then the benediction comes, and now is me, you us. All I need you to do will is not just get that offering that time, but I need about five thousand more and me, you and us together. When we plant the seed together, you're now sowing in good fertile ground. And now you'll be

blessed because you've been blessed by the head of this church. Me, you, us. Now let's talk about the pimp. What did the pimp do? Showing up? I'm looking good. Look at me, I'm I'm I'm I'm the madam. I'm looking good. I got on for our clothes. I'm looking good. Now I'm gonna talk about the you. I'm gonna see that whole down. And I'm gonna say, man, you you're looking kind of sucked up right now. Mama. Your ship ain't together. You're here, ain't together. You don't have a place to stay. You're

not looking good. Look at me and look at you. But if me and you get together, to me, you us, ain't it the cold ass analogy? To me? You want to get together? Means you to do is give me everything you make while you on the corner, and me and you together, we're gonna be blessed together and take over the world. And now you gotta you got somebody in the game. They got you giving you. You're giving him everything to pimp everything and you get nothing in return.

Some of these churches, there some great churches, but some of these churches you're giving the Man of God everything and you've got nothing in return. These politicians, you're giving them everything and you've got nothing in return. To me, you us, it's the pimp game, and it happens all around us. We just don't identify it and see it for what it is. So it used to Booted podcast will be right back after the point. Let's talk about

Fox News for ment moment. People when they see you on Fox News, they immediately start thinking that you're an agent. They started immediately thinking that, Okay, she's a Republican, she's down with your that agenda or whatever. When I saw you, I immediately said, damn, she's talking that type of ship on Fox you know, like because again, like you're none partisan. And so I thought to myself, I said, she could

be a good mediator. And then when I started doing my homework on when I started doing my research on you, I discovered that you have done media mediation work in uh, Florida. Like, how how did that come about? I'm good like you said Florida Supreme Court media appach approach and for the impelling are you still working in the capathity? Still have my my certification, my license? Yes, they approach you. It's something I estentually, Uh, I'm good with Outside of politics.

I ran on business at a staff and firm three dred employees. I worked for the largest corporations in the world. Um, I want or Lando Business Journal twice. My company was called the Allied Group. I understand how to bring people

together different walks of life. My life path is a life path nine for those who study you know, life path and Numerology and Life Path nine literally brings every walk of life together, and it's having the gift of discernment to be able to see other people how they may not see themselves, to be able to see what walk that they've had to see how we really I could be damn good. Pam grew up like around the

strip club house, Mom. They say women as any women ever approach you and ask you to pimp them, absolutely well, they don't have to answer me. I could choose anybody I want. What I'm saying like, yeah, I've had I've had, I've had women come to me before. Yeah, they choose me all the time. Yeah I can't do that. What I'm saying, they choose me all the time, men have choosed me. Let back in the drawn up glass key the strip club you, I mean it is an double DS make me twice as nice. I could out pimp

any nigger. I mean seriously, you know why, because I got something that you don't have. I can actually feel in for her when she's off work, So you can never do that. That's what made Howie flights. What is feeling for her? Meaning that if you can't pimping is all about the mind. The mind. So the reason why Hottie Flights and reason why they took Hottie Flights at the game. The cold is female pimp to ever live is because she empowered her holes. When you empower people, see,

it's only so far PA can take it. You either having sex with her, or you talk game to death, or you make a fall in love with you. But when a woman is good at her pimping, it's a different empowerment that I get. Heidi Flights was really successful because she was able to empower. Oh, it wasn't about beating them up and bringing them down. She let them

get their own money. She let them do whatever. I used to have a round where I say I'm I'm I'm Heidi Flights when my double ds make me twice as nice, which means that I can talk you and I can talk a woman or something you can never talk her into. Yeah, if I was you, I'll do it. If I was you, I'll do a girl. If you don't do what, I'll do it. So you could never do that because I got what they got. So when you got a female that's cold at her pimping, cold

at or talk game, every woman can't do it. It's something definitely don't try at home. That's why women should be very That's why women should be very careful around other women because what they don't know is that a lot of times when they're in these clubs and at these resources and things like that, women are often used as an accomplices for males to date, you know, to date rape these uh, these women did slip these date

raped drugs and stuff like that into their drinks. Because a woman would be immediately relaxed around another woman because she feels like she don't want Let's go back to when you say she like I want to dig into that. I want to dig into that. Like when you say she when I say I can talk her into stuff, you can never talking to you, yeah, because you know why, all you can do is funer. She want to be me, I don't. You're right, but the thing, the idea that

she wants to be with you. I'm talking at the pip gang, right, But guess what when a woman is cold on her piper, she want to be me. See that's a difference. I want to be what you want to be me. It's a different Now, it don't work on every woman. Just like everything else. You got different demographic. But there's that woman that want to be I want to be like that, But I want to be what that? What is that to walk in the room and be respected. It's only so many women, and I just want to

be as woman. I'm cool. I just want to be the bottom. I just want to be one of me need But there's a different level of empowerment that a woman can have on another woman to say, but I want to be that ship though. And that's what I mean when I say yeah. That's why Oprah was so effective. There were so many women that wanted her life, wanted that lifestyle, and Oprah could literally literally tell them to go marry a cat and they would do it literally. Yeah.

And and it's a gift and occur. You can either use it for good. That's why I tell people all the time. If I want to just get the bag or just get the money, that's simple. I'm over there with all the like it's easy. Oh yeah, the money on the conservative side, Let's make no mistake about it. Michael Cohen Off of me, fame and fortune and everything you can think of. The one that ended up flipping on Trump first time I went on Fox News, got off the got off the set. He was on the

speaker phone. Hey, I'll make you famous. I mean, this is before Canada's owns was Canda's own. She was. They absolutely seek out our best because what they don't want our best to do is use their resources and their intelligence to empower out. So soon as they identify a black person who is well spoken, who is charismatic, who has a good look, they immediately try to wrestle them away and get them on that teams so that they

cannot empower their own people. Absolutely. That's why when people tell me, oh, you must be paid to say that, No, think about it. I know what. You can look at my cliffs. The Republicans saying, while I'll be on the air, ow wown. We wish we had you on our side. Oh wow, you'd be great on us. They literally I've had people come to me in the airport. You know, we take care of our own. That's where the paper is,

and I put the book out. They get the book, they wait, I mean, let's keep it real, fucking what Our own is the hardest thing in the world. Not only do I gotta fight white supremacs, I gotta fight my own and it's like I'm literally talking to a

cemetery on most days. So the papers on that side, speaking, speaking, speaking, speaking, and speaking of that, there is a whole lot of conjecture on your Instagram page, like the people come to your page all the time talking shit about politics, and to me, I'm sitting back and it's it's amusing but at the same time sometimes make my head hurt. But you go in on them and you do it like what is it called when you do something classy and nasty?

It's like it's like nasty, nice, nicety. You're nicety with it. But I mean it doesn't ever get to you that that people can be that damn stupid. No, because we've had this conversation. First of all, I enjoy it, you know, I come from the era like we did. I love playing the dozens, so that's the number one. And again I like free do I like the are the freestyle battle And it's like asking a MC do you like

getting on the microphone? You know what I'm saying. I tell people don't and I do it, Willie, because I don't want you to confusing with these other commentators is out here like I actually enjoyed this. I'm good at this, not bragging. I'm just I'm good at this off the dome type of talk. And I talk ship, I do singers, I'll talk about people's mama's, daddy's and still mixing in politics. So when I do it because I enjoy it. I

don't do it all the time. And you and I have had this conversation like to them, why do you waste your time? But I do it because I also want people to know that you can you can rock this mic like both ways like this. You know this is a gift that God has given me. So when somebody come in and say it's like telling the m c hey man, don't don't free stop out it, don't say nothing back, don't talk ship back. It's it's who I am. I like it. It's practice, it's it's literally

sparring practice. So I enjoy it. Sometimes I don't say ship at all, but when I do, I do, and it's important that people see that, like, no, that's the home girl for real. She really don't give a fuck. I don't have a nonprofit. I don't want your vote, I don't want your donation. I don't want ship from you, fuck you and your mama. Nobody does it in politics but me. Isn't it necessary to have somebody do that? You know what I'm saying, like, that's necessary. So when

you do your thing, you do your thing. You know you got a comments person and saying funk you and your daddy. That's important to have that in the game because nobody else does that in the game because they and no disrespect to anybody, but most of them are driven by career. They're driven by you know what, other opportunity they're gonna get. What is it gonna look like. I don't give a funk how it looks. This is who I am. You either. You just answered my question.

I was about to ask you, how do you reconcile when people coming at you saying like, hey, you're supposed to be on this type of level. You're a political analysts or commentator and you're talking like that. Yeah, great question. Debits and credits. The dead already been paid. Man, I'm not supposed to be here, and I'm not talking at the dead paid by the most high that too, but I'm not even supposed to be here. When you've had guns in your head and you've been involved in certain situations.

I'm not e supposed to be here with the funk. I look like getting this far in the game and then switch up. This is who I am. I'm so well, I'm not above doing ship. And I've told girlfriends and I'm like, I've lost my business, started my business, lost my business starting. Nobody to put me in this ship. I've lost twenty plus family members in the last twenty years. Both my parents in the ground. Nobody and my family has ever been in politics. Nobody put me home. Nobody said,

oh yeah, this would be great for you. I got here with this hustle. But what does the game come from though, you know, push your daddy and hustling. He was in the game early on, yes, okay, and then after that he got caught up in the streets and and didn't recover. Was always around and you you had some background of dating like gas, right, So you dated these guys. So was that at a point thats a guy may be older than you that I dated always, which they did't handle business, by the way, tell them

that now. But yeah, every year every ninth grade, I mean I literally Willie from sixties cript you know, ten uh Inglewood California, Athens part E t Running from the fairst rest in peace, like literally every single year of my life sixth grade. I grew up in a blood territory. But my best friend Patrice Kelly, shout out to her. She was a great street crip. Her brother was from sixties,

the only crips in the neighborhood. When I would walk through the hood and walk through the street, I remember at school when I would tell ever like, man, I can't wear this blue big kemmy be like, you're gonna put that blue on. You're gonna mob through these is happening in North Highland. Yeah, I don't know why you you get so y'all did awards here. We did a gang bang. People didn't. People just really don't think of when they don't when they think of game Bang, and

people just really don't think of Oklahoma. I don't know why they don't think of the wet y'all may not think of it in the South, but that's where the doge game was. When the fat when when when ice Cube talked about vacation day and going out and setting up shop, That's what happened in Kansas, Oklahoma. It happened in Texas. But y'all did awards. We did north Side South Yeah, Southside, we did bloods and cribs because that

is who game and set up shops. So when I talk about my day ones Clipper Spud Johnson niggas I met in was a freshman sophomore in school, I was a sure leader during the day and at night I was the trap. My mom never knew rest in peace. But this was a part of that was a part of the culture. That was our income. That was what it was all the I talked to the dope dealers because I was fine, you know back then, but that

was that was the income, that was what drove the streets. Um. So I don't know anybody that was in the game that was pushing keys, damn. So don't know about the Midwest. I called Oklahoma to Midwest, even though some may say Southwest, but it really was pushing dope, you know, from Kansas. To realize how many federal cases, almost some of the top federal cases in the country have come out of Oklahoma.

More people are incarcerated, more women are incarcerating in Oklahoma than anywhere in the world, and most of their cases are directly related to drug cases were able to escape the long hands of the law. Absolutely, I didn't get caught. You never got no. I never got some people, no I wasn't. I just spent their money. I tried to say a weed one time, and it was terrible. I

was like a telemarket. I was calling y'all needs well, like I'm just shut up to Chris because in order to say a weed, anybody know, I always lived like far out because I always want to make sure that I was safe. Um, so the dope man has and y'all noticed. But for the people who don't know, the dope man usually got their baby mama, and then they got their side they and then they got another one that they flossed at the club. So I was the

one that they take the flows at the club. Then there was the side check that kept the work at the house. And you know, she really thought she was connected to dude and he really wasn't sing with him, but he kept the work. I never kept a ship at my Then you had the baby mama. That was the one. Look I'm giving all the game that really with the dude, and her whole life was sucked up when he got caught. So I never wanted to be the baby mama. I always had my little square job,

but was spending their money. I was the fly one. I was the thirty pounds, which I'm about to sometimes gonna get back to my old men, the thirty pounds smalling what you see now. I was the one that kept at the club that they showed out this my girl whatever. I didn't keep their work out and keep they spent their money out and keep their doping my house. So I was just around a lot of men that showed me the game, that showed me everything about the game. Um,

so I didn't get caught. That's the difference. I didn't get caught. Wasn't you know when they got pulled over, when they got robbed? When different. There's been some situations that I've been ended up with some stuff that I've seen, but I just didn't get caught. But I'm assuming that they came to you at one point and said, showed you some pictures. You know the game. You know this

person really trying to make men know the game. It's like an unspeakable code that we don't never talk about your mother, right, I do know that ain't nobody ain't no game man, game, Bro, the game. The game is dead, bro At it's a secret subody that's anybody today, Bro, need to be in jail. If your asses, if you don't see all this ship that's been happening out here, if you don't see how really, how serious these people is about giving your ass a thousand years, well, that's

what I'm saying. If you don't see that ship, if you don't figure, if you can't figure that ship, if you don't understand the risk that's involved with putting your family and you say you love your kids, but you're in the car riding with your kids and you know these boys after you, and then they open up and then your kids are dead. He's st killing grandmama's they're killing granddad and killing your mama, your dad. Man, that ship that huh just started this week? Now it ain't

just started. But my my point is that that ship is over. Bro. It's like we we can't, in my opinion, we can't keep excusing this type of bad behavior. We can't. We can't keep it and him and I'm saying, I'm saying, and I'm gonna speak on the ship when i want to, when i want to speak on it because I don't respect the ship at all. I don't respect nothing about it,

and the ship is detrimental to our communities. We gotta get rid of these motherfucker's that's out here sucking up my ship because we cannot begin to try to hold somebody on the out side accountable who don't look like us accountable when we don't hold our goddamnselves accountable. That

goes back, That goes back to us. That goes back to what you were just saying, how to how the Republicans, uh, Conservatives check each other on the spot, and the Democrats sit back and watch it and try to be and try to go alone and get along. You see, mother, Ri, what's the alternative? What's the alternative that you would offer? What you think? What you think is the alternative? I'm asking you, I'm asking, I'm ask if you know the alternative?

Tell me, because I because one thing that I'm not gonna get into is getting set up with a dumby question. So you tell me what the alternative is, since I'm clear against it, since I clearly think that it's detrimental to our communities, So I can say, what is the alternative? Let me say this first and foremost. I can't go to you and say, Willie, I need you to stop whatever the fuck is you're doing, and I offer you an alternative. Okay, Okay, okay, So let me say this.

I ain't going to nobody to say stop ship. I'm saying, we are responsible for our own actions. So for me to go and ask him something, so so for me to go and ask you for something or what or whatever is to imply that somehow you hold some type of power over me. I ain't asking for ship. I'm saying, just like we don't ask to protest, to march the boycott.

We shouldn't be asking these motherfucking killers in our neighborhood and these gangsters that's tearing our ship up, making it unsafe fire women and children to walk street, even our boys, even our boys and our men to be in the neighborhood. We shouldn't be asking these motherfucker's for permission to stop sucking up our ship. We gotta, we gotta get off that motherfucking exkills ship and all that motherfucking tip torn around this ship and confront this ship directly. It's time.

It don't matter that you did something back in the dance because one thing that I realized is that you know, and and I even put myself. You know, I've done some fucked up ship in the past myself too. But what I'm saying is that what I'm saying is that a lot of us, a lot of us will, a lot of us are apprehensive about calling the bullshit because we know we was on some bullshit when we were younger.

But when you know better, you do better. At some point, we gotta cut this ship, bro, We gotta cut the fucking ambiblical card. We gotta cut it, bro. We can't just keep on that. That is what one of the biggest reasons why we can't move forward. We we're fighting this wall over here. We got a war going on over here, but we're not addressing this ship over here because motherfucker's looking like us. There's our family members of these are friends, these peop but we know so we're

not addressing this ship. But meanwhile, the first time one of these motherfucker's out here to do something, we're up and on. Do you think two things can be done at the same time. Yeah, Well, if if the game, if the streets got a colde man, I just believe that you ain't no fucking code. Bro. The motherfucker the motherfucking the motherfucking cold is either if you ain't helping,

you hurting. That's the goddamn cold. Now you tell every everybody listening to me, right, motherfucking sound everybody, now, I'm no, it ain't. It ain't got a sound reality. It ain't got it. It ain't got it. It ain't gotta sound good. It's still going I know it's still going on, but they ain't got it. My point ain't trying to make it sound good. I'm making the point I'm trying to ain't trying to make it sound I'm saying, if you ain't helping, you hurt. So take inventory of your mother

fucking life right now. Especially the people out here it is always talking about they're doing this, they're doing this to us. We can't this, we care it. Take inventory of your motherfucking life right now. Look at yourself. Fun what I'm saying. Look at yourself and say to yourself, am I helping my community or am I hurting my community? And if your ass is hurting, your motherfucking asked, need to go now. That's the goddamn bottom line. All that

other ship. I ain't ain't with it, bro, motherfucker. You brought that child into the world a child and not asked to come to this wild ass motherfucking west of a goddamn society. You brought him into his motherfucker. It's your responsibility to make sure that their motherfucking ride is as smooth as possible. That's your job. Your job is not the fucking abandon your child and have some other

mother can man uh raising your child. And and then you're sitting back and your house is sucking totally wider when the man leaves the house, the heart the house is totally wide open for it to be raped and pillaged. And that is why a lot of these little girls get taking advantage of it ship because they ain't got no stood, they ain't got no motherfucking man a solid right there making sure that people know you come to

this motherfucking house, you better come with some respect. You ain't coming up in here and doing anything because because because because it's a man on the other side of this door. So let me ask you. You said if they know better, they do better, And then you also said these people know would you would you agree that that everybody is not as in the know as if you as as you are now versus twenty years ago,

would you agree to that? I would agree absolutely. And when would you agree that there is a lack of like when you said there's not necessarily a man in the house that would you agree that some people's conditions has been a result of the lack of knowledge not just from them, but the generation and the generation prior to that. Okay, And so you agree that we are should hold ourselves accountable, but you also agree you talk

at white supremacy a lot. You also agree that there is also some conditions that are out of our control as well. Okay, yet and and and also I agree, And one last thing, when because you sound like you just gave a tough on crime speech, but you also would agree as soon based on our relationship that it's not that like everything I know they did time and this is just my own small pole. I'm doing a whole class on poles. Like what that means if I

take a pole and say everybody in this room. In this room, that's literally just two of you, So I have to be careful when we say everybody out. I don't like absolutes but I like to be careful, you know, when I'm speaking on certain groups. So the people that I know that have done time, it's not that they I'll see somebody in come and say, oh, they know, they don't want to hear that. They don't want to take accountability. Everybody I know they did time took accountability.

One reason they took accountability didn't snitche Now this is I'm not getting into the cold thing, but I'm getting into the the idea of taking responsibility for your own actions. And so we come from generation where you took accountability for your own So that's the accountable number one, doing your own time and the homy my son talks about that a lot. It's not that um like my friends spoiled for example. It is not that he didn't take

accountability for selling dope. The question was what how. It's not if there's crime, it's how do we handle that crime? How do we how do we make it punitive and fair? So seventeen years to me for never being caught with dope in a conspiracy for crack cocaine disparaged you for the first time non by the defender is yeah, that

that's far too much that's exactly it. So as long as we're having a conversation where we say, yeah, we want to hold each other account, we want to say, hey, spoil, why don't you do something different, why don't you change your life? But at the same time, if he gets caught up, whether it's according to his conditions are because he chose that's correct, how can we say he do sixteen years And I used him as an example. I talked about him a lot because he was a part

of the Blood and Crypt treaty. And when I look at that was the only time, like in our generation, our generation X, where we really got together to say fun that we're gonna do something different. I have a poem where I talked about it. I said, it all started back with Rodney King. They knew to get those real soldiers off the scene, locked them up, young brothers, got buck and that is them on the TV and

now the buck. I said that to say that even then systematic, when we was time when Bloods and Chris said, you know that we're gonna do something different, and they got together and said you know what, let's get together. Shout to all those guys that made that effort. And at the same time, we know also that they will undermine and that's where the system comes into play. So when the ninety four Crime Bill came out, the the

fucking police the government. So when that's what I'm correct, so two things can be done at the same time. When they say, you know what funk all this singing? I remember saying that they got the clip when they said, that's it when we don't do something different. And then the system came into play and said we're gonna do a war on drugs and we're gonna lock up every nigga. But the crack cocaine disparageing, it wasn't that fund and

many others didn't take accountability for their crime. But when you say I'm gonna take you away for sixteen years and now you've got two sons at the house and he left, that's it, so we can't that's it. And and then that Paul when I said, now they locked up and young brothers on the TV. Now they bucked, But now the home is about to come home. That was what I said. And now it's really on. Now that's what we're going through right now. When we went

through first step back the Republicans supported. I supported, Oh, let's get everybody home. Let's get everybody. I'll tell the niggas out time, because we're faces right, the game is the game. I tell hey, they're about to come. Lock your ass up. I've been you. You follow a lot of what I say. I said two years ago, this should the same way they let you. Niggas out there about to come get you tenfold. That's the system, and that's the balance of what you're talking about accountability. Also

recognizing there's a system right now. When when Eric mayor Eric wanted New York, he literally came out and said, I'm the proto type. I don't I don't excuse bad behavior, period, and I don't excuse I don't believe in rewarding bad behavior. Under notes, even when I got into jam, when anytime I got a JAM, I was always willing to face the consequences. Of course, I wanted to blow to be

as self as possible. But I'm okay with I'm okay with were facing the responsibility because you know, I put myself in that position, and not all the time do we put ourselves in some st positions because sometimes you know it's the system. They come But but The thing is this, we know most of us at least no have some idea by the time we're eighteen years old, that we have identified that there are traps. We see our friends going to jail. We must understand that don't matter.

It doesn't matter how you you were raised, it doesn't matter what hardships that you had, it doesn't matter that you're black. You walk your ass into that courtroom that judge is going to do with that judge was hired to do, that prosecute is going to do with that prosecutor was hard to do. That is lock of black bodies. That's what they That's what they were hired to do.

So I'm just I'm just saying, I'm not saying you gotta be perfect, and I'm saying nand just understand, I'm saying be aware of that and and know that ultimately that is not gonna be a good defense. My mama wasn't there, my daddy was a crackhead. But niggas ain't really using that defense though. I mean, that's what that's what Face is saying. They nobody come none times ten. They're taking the pla anyway, So literally, they're not using that excuse they're taking the opportunity that they have in

front of them. And that's where I mean, y'are saying the same thing. I just think you're saying a different ways. It's not like who going side with my mama wasn't there and I think you should get time. Niggas ain't doing that. For the most part. They're getting that time. And they're saying I'm gona tell on somebody and I'm

gonna you know, I'm gonna give my TI reduced. But I don't see people literally saying, hey, I think I should get a pass because of X y Z. I do think that that that's sometimes going to a white supremacy talking point of thinking that we're using excuses. It's not that we're using excuses. We're telling it like it

is so everybody. Everybody uses excuses and spacies. Everybody. Everybody uses excuses and everything, and every and everybody makes complaints act impossible, people accountable because we had help getting in the position that we're in right now. It's not it's not that's not impossible, Brad, It's not impossible. It's not impossible. If you have a neighbor, If you have a neighbor and your neighbor is uh, stepping outside and custing out the kids. It's up to people that the community has

first action at at that person. Are you gonna Are you gonna just keep calling the police and saying, hey, this guy is cussing out the kids. Are are you gonna say? You know what? I think I'm gonna do something a little different because this ship can got to stop, right, the ship got to stop. I'm saying this man that we have the number one be held accountable for our said, we have to hold ourselves accountable, and then and then

the larger community has to hold each other accountable. Right, And I'm saying that, yes, there are gonna be situations where people get themselves in a jam. And when that happens, let's give grace. Let's try to have grace. What graces do. Let's have some more flexibility because people with our more flexibility scared. Like I was saying, bro, it's it's it's it's just remember that we didn't put ourselves in this position. Okay,

we had a lot of help. A lot of this ship is stealing from the help that we had to get in this position in the first place. So that that that's what I'm saying, I got it, okay, so you got okay? So do we got knowing that boys remoted podcasts will be break back after the great knowing that knowing that, yeah, okay, what do we do we it's just accept the conditions? Or do we try to make some type of amends? Are we try to make

some type of corrections? What do we do? We have to make some type of amends and some type of corrections. But and that's what I'm saying, So we have to do something different. And I think the thing that we're not doing is holding each other accountable. But it isn't really fair though, because that bothers me because they usually comes from a concert, not saying you want but a

conservatives why you don't hold each other buttative organization? I mean you're holding people accountable right now, like literally, So to say that I don't like absolutes. You know, we all always we don't get it up to say that we're not holding each other Canada, I just it's it's

simply just not true. Could there be more? Yes, but there are more positive organizations of what people are doing the right thing that are trying to turn around these kids that don't have the funding that do it on their own, to do it on their own time, that reach out to people to have conversations. They don't have the support because of part of that system. If if Americle is really interested in really reducing crime, the facts show,

not the emotions. The facts show that when you invest in preventative measures, with access to after school programs, with jobs, with investing. There was a group and I know you remember because I think you've shared it on your page where the fathers were going around to the school and they were going and you know, being security and stuff like that. I've been a sub in Title five schools and the homy I was on time watch your bringing homies in there, Like there's a different level of respect

that somebody is coming from their environment. Not the police, not community policing, but just you dealing with somebody will actually sit down and have a conversation. They know the system knows that these things work, and they choose to do the opposite, go straight to we gotta hold them accountable and lock them up. It's not that we're disputing that there's crime and there shouldnt be accountability. The question

is how do you prevent it? What do you do when they're when it is time to be punitive in a system that does not favor us. I get what you're saying, which is, hey man, the game is what it is. You get locked up. It's not gonna be fair to you. Understanding this. Understand life ain't gonna be fair. Funk what they're talking about? What? Oh, it ain't fair. No, we get it. It ain't gonna be fair. You gotta move differently, You gotta be better, you gotta be smarter,

you gotta grind. You know, we get that for our own children. And having that conversation with Phase is saying, is though, we still have to acknowledge the system in itself, and I just I lean, I don't support the idea that we're not doing doing anything because they go to kind of those talking points and that's just not true. There are way more organizations that are doing it on their own. I talked about Sylvia not all the time.

It's one of my favorite nonprofits, you know, from the non family in Compton, California, that's doing the work, that's putting in time, that's dealing with these kids. Does she have funding from the government, Is there anybody sourcing her the way they source these Democrats, organizations, Urban League, the Double A CP. They don't put the money into that and say, you know what, Willie, I like what you're talking about. Let me go put some money behind what

you're doing to move people in a different direction. So I just think it's unfair to say that ain't nobody doing nothing well, I think, And I'm glad you said everything that you said, because you know, words do mean something that I guess maybe I poorly articularly articulated what I said. I don't want I don't want somebody to take what I'm trying to say out of context, because you know, out work, I'm in the streets, I'm on

the communities for it. I got a new foundation. I actually put the work in on a daily basis with social programs. I understand the need for social programs because that's why we say defund the police, not because we don't want police around. It is because we know if we can take some of those millions and billions of dollars that we have annually allocated for police services that we if we could put those in the social services we don't need, we don't have as many calls to

the police so I understand that one thousand percent. And I totally respect the people that are on the ground doing the work. For real, I work with them daily.

You know, I respect that. I totally respect that. I'm I guess what I really want to say is that I don't I think that we're not doing enough right and I think and the reason why I feel that way, it's because I do know killers in the neighborhood that go to prison come home after killing somebody in the neighborhood and they have a barbecue for him at the park.

I ain't know for a fact, but you also know there's groups like yourself that people to go to prison and come home and they get a job and they do the right thing too. I got that. But we understand there's always gonna be yan Yang never, there's always gonna be kine and enabled. There's never gonna be perfective. Absolutely.

I just had somebody on the show the last week about talking about the same thing with with with Like I said, I guess I poorly articulated what I really what I wanted to say, but I wanted to make it clear. I do want to make it clear number one, that I do support and I do respect the people that are on the ground doing the work. I respect the youngsters out there that are trying that. No, I'm in a situation. I'm doing what I think I need to be doing. But you know, I understand the risk

and it could happen. If it happens, I want grace. I get all of that, you know, I get all of that. But I am still always number one responsibility, self accountability, because if without that, I couldn't have gotten to where I was. You know what I'm saying. I had to hold myself account I never I never believed in the excuse shirt. And and I put my community record up against anybody's community record, and I guarantee, and I've been doing it for thirty two, thirty two years,

thirty three years. I've been doing it for thirty three years. Ever since, ever since I realized that my name had a little weight behind it. You know, I could use my influence to go out and speak to the kids, go to the prison and share my experiences with with with inmates, you know, go to the university, speaking at law schools, all this type of ship. I've been doing this ship for thirty two years. You can do without

having no way behind. Yea. We just released six podcast series that are going to five thousand plus incarcerated and I don't have no weight like y'all do. So I challenged females, but I'm saying the point is you can do this without having that opportunity, because because you know, people use that as an excuse to why I would do it. I don't have a platform. I don't this nigga. Niggas they got platforms, always didn't have platforms. You had

to put in some work to get the platform. So we want to challenge people to that, even them themselves, you know, can do something to better somebody. And if we focus more on what we can do as individuals opposed that this, we we're the only group when you look at other communities, they go and take over our communities. I don't want to name certain groups because you know it's unnecessary, but we all know who we're talking about.

If there are certain groups that come in our community and have nail shops and have um uh beauty supplies and have convenience stores, do you realize they build them back to back to back. We're the only ones that and that's why that we conversation is to me because sometimes can be very dangerous because we're the only ones that say. If you and I both said we're gonna start a beauty supply and I start wanting you start one, the conversation be like, oh man, look really hate untism.

She's started one. Why we can't come together, Nick can never come together. We should come together, have ow beauty supply. Meanwhile, they give beauty supply to beat the supply to beautiful. They monopolize the ship. We're the only ones that spent all this time on we Yes, we want to be unified, but we don't have to be uniformed. Everybody does something different. Meanwhile,

they monopolize and control at all. When you play the game of monopoly, Monopoly is about taking block by block, and each time you get that little square, building more upon that square, and when you don't have enough room, you go get the next one. We're the only one if you imagine a Monopoly game, say no, no, no, let's all just go on this square. Let's all together. We're strongly together. Think about that. No other community does that.

Jewish community, Asian community, White community, Asian Pacific islanders. None of them say let's just own one, seven eleven. Let's just own one beauty supply. They all compete with each other, and it's a healthy competition. There used to be a time and y'all know, y'all have ladies. I'm sure where you would just go to the nail shop and get your nails done. Now you go, you get wine. Some do wine, some do to place I go. They have

a full bar, bars, martinis, whatever. Each one they stepped the game and say, you know what, if they're offering wine, I'm gonna offering Martinez. If they offered Martinez, I'm an offer Crown and code, each one of them stepping up, and they all on the same block. And meanwhile they monopolize and get all the economy. When we fight with each other and say let's unify, let's get the same, let's be the same. No, that ain't it. Let's separate some of this ship. Let's all be on cold, but

let's monopolize all this ship. We need Republicans, we need independence, we need democrats. We need some of y'all to feel out polls like your Republican, I tip it all time. Start feeling out the polls with the truth. Feel it out as if you're a Republican because what the poll does. Nobody follows you into that poll, into that booth to see who you really vote for. Feel out the poll like you're Republican because you know what that does. It

brings resources to the community. When Face was talking about Republicans don't even come after us, you know why they don't because the polls don't show we're there. If everybody start feeling out polls like a conservative, then they're gonna say, damn, I got some voters over here, let me put some money over here, let me get some get out to vote, let me pay for some of the advertisement. So their strategy behind this that we're just not aware of because

nobody's teaching us the game. Well, you said you don't like the word we. What you keep saying we're the only ones? Well that's true, I know, like, well that's well, that's I mean, that's kind of factual. Though when you and I and you're correct, with the majority of us, we do talk about black unity a lot, we do black power. These are these are facts we spend a lot of time trying to get us all to agree.

Opposed to you run push your line. I'm gonna push mine and we meet somewhere in as long as we're moving towards the progress of black people, and we don't do enough of that. We don't do enough of that. There's a lot of people in this space that can't stand the people I work with, and that's fine. Like don't funk with the people I work with at all, But that don't mean that those people are not necessary. I used to read for an examp treating the sheet

the harm try. He don't like being crumped at all. Damn, you know, and I and he know our work. Why why do you have to speaking himself? But he talks about him quite a bit, you know. And he doesn't like the way he moved. But Ben as a great brother to me. I think people are necessary to do what they do, whether you always agree with or not, a lot of what to reduct. A lot of people criticize me for liking his posts or commenting with him, or whatever it could be. I don't like the way

Willie d he's a conservative whatever. People don't like being. People may not like to make a mallard. People don't like Charlemagne. Hey listen, I funk with people that are trying to move black people forward, even if it's not the way I move. I funk with people are trying to move black people forward. And it's not that we all agree. Top bloods and crips do that. I tell

people you was ever about any money. Bloods funk with Chris and Chris Blood if you sell them keys, you got to You cannot let niggas on the corner be confused about how you know what what people on a different level are doing in order to move it forward. And I have a lot of my friends to say, and I don't know why you funk with him. He's a you know, homophobe, he's an anti thist or anti that.

And I tell people, listen, I moved by myself. I'm I'm a gang of one, but I respect people that are that have the adacity to speak up of black people, even if it's a way that I don't necessarily do. Me and being were constantly we've done breakfast cuff several times. I tell people he's Martin, I'm Malcolm. I don't move away, he moves, but we have a mutual respect, you know, for each other, based on the fact, you know, I'm trying to move black people forward. A lot of people

may not like how being get down. But what I tell people is why you'll still a right attorney in your community. Ain't saying nothing? Well, you know why they don't say nothing because they don't want to piss off the d A. They don't want to piss off the police officer. They don't want to These families call their local attorney first. Let's get that straight. So when people say why everybody called being because your local attorney don't want to do ship, being is not always the first call.

Let me put that out. I've been in the room when these family calls. They don't want to piss off. They go to dinner and lunch, and you know they still gotta move ship get you done. When I work the house off case the office of the rape thirteen black women in Oklahoma City, let's talk about that. You actually move next door to the police station for that it was that's the case that you moved next door to the police station. My grandmother lived next door to

the police station. Next door literally this was the police station. This was my grandmother's house. And they were following you every time you left the hout because that was the only way out the hood. When you exit out. So if you live next door to police, says, you know police are coming in and out, you know, constantly. So the easiest access out of the hood was the direction

you know, where I would drive would pull out. So when I because I lived in Dallas, so I had Florida tags at the time I moved from Orlando, so my tags with Florida, I was dropping a binds. I was pulled over several times, you know, just because they would literally tell me when I was driving a speed limit where you know, anybody to drive a speed limit or anything less than five, we we profile that it's possibly canterin dope. Like literally a police officer told me that.

And that's what this police officer did, was pulled over black You're breaking the law, yes, because that was profiled as some that is trying to avoid getting pulled over with Florida tags in the bins in Oklahoma City where plenty of dope got pushed. I don't know what stories you don't hearn about Oklahoma, but plenty went on Oklahoma City. I mean that that was it in the nineties, that was all you had. Um. This is obviously wasn't the nineties, but still Um, so yeah, I live next door to

the to the police station. Um that was his precinct, the Spring Lake Police Station, and so um. I reached out to the attorney that was represented women at the time, who was a white attorney, and I asked, I really would like this case to go national. I think people should be talking about this, and he said on them, we don't want it to go national at that time. Um, they certainly didn't want to put Oklahoma on the map with that Oklahoma City thunder just started popping, you know positive.

Oh you medical, like, that's not something we're trying to talk about, you know, on the national level. And I reached out to being Crump and he ended up representing those women, but made the story, you know, a national story, and it's still not national like it should be, and the copy end up getting how many years two hundred years. Shout out to the prosecutor, you did your job. Now, what's said prosecutor's name? I forgot his name. That's good, as you said, I forgot his game. Shout out to

a prosecutor, you did your job. Man, salute like his ass up and make sure he don't get out because a lot of times a lot of times when they get convicted, especially when they get a hard sentence. They're a hard sentence, they'll come in and and get that appeal and get the time. Not many of the women that he actually raped were not even included in the actual case. You know, we're still not represented because they were criminalized and their backgrounds were criminalized and all of

you know, uh, everything that they had done. And I didn't even know when I did the speech that day, Um, I didn't know that one of the females there was a cousin of mine. UM And I turned around to her and I said, you didn't know me, but I

knew you. I've been ridding for you all Alonge. And my aunt was actually watching um the press conference in the beauty supply at the time, and she said, you didn't know that was such and such his daughter And I'm gonna say named, you know, competitionality, But so you didn't know that was your cousin. I said, no, I hadn't seen her since she was a baby. And so that's when we talk about the six degrees of separation. You know, what it really means to represent your community.

My mother that day that I did that press conference, I didn't want to speak, and being kept saying you need to say something, to say something, I wasn't move with my mother just found out that her cancer has spread. We had just left him on and um one of my friends that ran for office at the time, Mike Shelton, he wasn't speaking up on this case loud enough for me, and so he would put his signs in my yard. And this is where we talk about accountability, Like I'm

about let's hold some of this power accountable. I hear what you're saying, let's hold the streets accountable. But my role and pushing this fucking line is this power. So when my friend Mike Sheldon, great dear friend of mine, he kept putting this yard yard sign for state Rep. And I told him every day that you don't say nothing about this case, I'm gonna throw away your the yard sign every goddamn day, because until you say something

about this there is no yard sign. And I would throw it out and throw it out, and eventually, you know, he did get more vocal about it. And UM, my mom knew how important that case was to me. And so that day when I just happened to be in town and she was like, I know how much this meant to you. She was literally pulling out the port in her and she was like, this is let's harry up and get you down to the press kind of My mom is cool, finished, you don't getting your keyma

on whatever. She's like, no, no, no, we gotta get you downtown. And so she dropped me off, and I wasn't in the mood to speak, and being kept saying test say something. I was like, no, I'm cool, you know, I don't want to say anything. Um. But eventually nobody was saying what needed to be said in my opinion, and I wanted to go off on the media for not because my mom macsually was the news director of secretary growing up in that town, you know, for the

news station. And I was embarrassed that they didn't say anything and do anything and not put it on the map. And so I went off on the news that day. And an organization called Black Women's Blueprint in Brooklyn heard my speech that day and they said, finally somebody said what we've been waiting to say. And they drove all the way from Brooklyn to Oklahoma City to ride out

with that case. And that's what I mean when I say we are doing something, we are using our voice and if we can share those stories on how those things make a difference. They don't have ship to do with no platform. Nobody knew who the funk I was. Nobody. I just simply got on this small microphone. And that's the same way. You've had opportunities. And you've had opportunity, what do you say when you get in the booth?

And politics to me is the booth. Let's talk about these uh photos that you post on Instagram from time to time. These photos seemed to uh they conjure uh various type of conversations and what's going on with the photos when you post? You post these provocative photos? You know when I say provocative, men, they provoked people, you know what I mean, vote people to make statements of uh sometimes when most times they go girl and stuff

like that, and who you're dating. I'd be a man and I do this for you and you get a lot of that stuff in you dam probably not as much as I should. Yeah, yeah, I think the world community uh is different. This is very different. You know, men I think are afraid to Social media has really created a bearer a barrier for men. I think, um, the socials. I don't know what it is, but it's men don't know how to approach. They think I'm assist soldier type like greetings Queen and all of that, and

then they think that I'm a part of this. I don't want to say the spies, but I think it's like I think, I think you're I think I think it's lazy. It's a lazy what's happenings happening? Yeah, but so it's Queen is becoming that, you know, it's becoming. Men think because I'm in this space that and a lot of women in this space so are similar. You know. I got a fiction book called Kitties Letter, so it's it involves kitties Letter and it involves sex and all

that kind of stuff. And I think men think, if you're in this space, you're I don't want to say sister soldier, but I'm just using as and everybody thinks that everybody women are extra woke like that, you know, Queen beloved whatever, Listen, I'm who whisper what's happening? You know? How you doing? What's like? Talk to me like you would anybody else. I'm not My personality is not a shout out to Charlotte Magne, who gave you the name

you the name rights hood Whisperer, you know. Uh yeah, and I did want to give a shout out to the Black Effect podcast, which you know made us label mates podcast labelmates. Basically it's what we are. Uh in your your your your podcast? Straight shot, no chasing with Teslin. Figure figure out figure? Um? You know is it for do you pronounce your name figure or not? Figart? Oh? Yeah, okay, super girl, don't bother me. I don't give a ship

of it. I mean that I think I get I get confused because sometimes I hear people calling you figure out. I'm not called up on that answer to worse? Yeah okay, So figure is how it's really pronounced Louisiana. Okay, okay, so figure out. So in in doing that podcast, how liberating is that for you? Um? It gives me an opportunity. Um, I don't know. I've been the same, you know what

I mean. I literally I can go all the way back from second grade when I got my first bloody nose, the fourth grade to the fifth grade when I got suspended. In the sixth grade, I've always been the one to raise my hand and say, you know what, this ain't really well, it's the teacher. I've always been the bullies bully. This is truly who I am talking about. The body knows how I got a bloody knows because I was

standing up for Shante Roland. She was a twin, Shante and Shmita Rowland, and one was smit which she should have been standing there for. And it was literally like in the second third grade. One was really skinny and being sucked his thumb and um, he would talk about how skinny she was every day, And I decided to talk about being sucking his thumb being decided to give me a bloody nose. So like that's always been stop fighting when you know you gotta stop fighting. You know

you get a bloody know, you keep it moving. I remember everybody got off the bus and ran on. You know, that's like what it is. I've always like, literally, I can talk about fifth grade and Kelly wrote Kelly Reynolds, my little white girlfriend who was getting bullied. You know, I can talk about sixth grade. I got to spending the sixth grade. I thought, Miss Harris, Samos Harris. It was a teacher. Somebody gonna slapshot at you, miss because you keep on snatching papers. And I got suspending for

that for five days. Somebody slap ship because she kept on snatching papers. And I told me one day, somebody gonna slap like I've always been that. I've gotten a

lot of trouble that day. But I've always been the one that raised my hand and said, we ain't really with this, even when I was, yeah, even when you know, it's commendable that she would stand up for people who couldn't stand up for themselves because I was a bully all the way to like, I know, he got something to say, but I was a bully all the way to like eighth grade, right, and then something clicked come on, and I started, like I started like bullying the bullies

like people would like people. People would befriend me so that the bullies would stop bullying them. They would come to me and befriend me so that nobody would mess with it. But I just got to that point to where like I just and I think that's why I'm so hard on this system, because I know it's it's full of bullies, That's exactly it. And that's why you do it with such ease, you know what I mean?

It's I bully the bullies. And it wasn't because I was the tough or you know, could beat everybody up. I had courage. It's all about courage. At the end of the day. You get a paid you get a faith. But you know what, something I don't know. I don't know if it was necessarily courage for me. I think it for me it was fear. It's fear of not living in peace, fear of being left, you know, of

fear of someone having control over me. You know, it's it's the fear of like when I was like growing up, I'm probably was more like about one forty pounds, you know, when I was like nine grade or something like that, and I was routinely whipping two hundred pounds dudes, and everybody thought I was like, man, man, man, man, will it get you? But he ain't scared of nobody, and they don't didn't understand. I was afraid. I was afraid

of losing and and fighting big guys. Always was always fear somebody being I always feared somebody being in on top of me, getting on top of me. It's getting the best of me, so I didn't want to lose the fight. Also, when I'm from the fifth ward, if you lose a fight, they're never gonna let you leave it down. Like it could be five years later and say, man, let me buy a dollar. I ain't got it. Yeah, that's why Robert whoop your ass. And that's how I see.

Like if I don't stand up and you know, you men, you'd be going in and the people just leave alone. But that's my point, Like when I tell I don't clap back of everybody, but every now and then, y'all got to know who you're working with, Like that's important. I don't I understand respectfully what you're saying with fear, but me, it's it's not it's letting you know you

can't do me. Like like a lot of my colleagues, they make these videos over and do this ship own and on and on and on and on, and hey, you're gonna have to come see me, like you can't just handle me any kind of way. Now, I probably don't do the things that they you know, they maybe don't have a reason to make a video about me. But what I do know is you're not gonna handle me any kind of like these they gotta know, like, don't play me like you doing everybody else. I think

that just comes with our different backgrounds. Don't play with you. There is a certain level of respect you know that you have to have. I call it courage, you call a fear, call whatever you want to, but it's it's how I've always been. So I've never had an issue of being liberated. I've always been free. I don't have the desire for a lot of things that people do. The money are the fame, that's great. If if it happens, if I wanted, like I said, I would have pushed

the music stuff. I would have pushed the rap thing. I would have whatever back of day was fine as hell. So being fine with me and you always gonna be straight, I mean, you know what I'm saying. That's like I didn't depend on that, but having a man, a provider, or having somebody around the that was. I've always been a hustle. I've been working since I was thirteen. I don't have a desire even now for material things. I'm not motivated at all. I just want to take care

of myself, take care of my family. So because of that, I don't the things that people have a fear of losing. I don't. I know where I'm going when it's all said and done. I know it's the goats are gonna be divided up with the the sheeps are about the shepherd's business. I'm totally comfortable like with who I am as a person. So the podcast opportunity, to me is

just another opportunity to get on the microphone. But I'll tell you if I talked about sex all day long, I will get ten times the amount of people that listen in. And you can talk about sex, i'd you talking about six I love talking about sex. Yeah, I love it. What's a that's a fair amount of times a days? I guess If I mean, I don't know, then let's have that discussion. Because your age. Yeah, I don't think you necessarily have to be it once a day or a couple of times a week, you know

type person. Um, But I think sexual chemistry is important, is the most important thing to me. Um. I was married thirteen years after that. I had a board from like ten plus you. I never not had a man straight, one child and I had right, let's make sure to do it any we got a lot to do with C section. Yeah, hand the pain. No, I can handle the pain. I welcome to pain. It means that. But

c section you got something to do with it. Because when I started talking about being well and down, me and A say always and you must be stretched out, you must be this, I don't feel no walls and that type of ship. So I like to make the point that I'm had a C section with one child means that what I ke it's gonna it's gonna be. I'm just telling you what the men who don't have nothing saying, I know that it goes absolutely like put that on your license, like straight up, let's get it

straight up. And there's nothing wrong with average trying to make hate. We will seeing some of this last week. He's anti welling down men, And it's nothing wrong with being average at best, it's nothing wrong with it. I just think it's not anti average. It's sell up braiding those who surpass the average in our community. Should we not those who are smarter master exceptionally well, exceptionally well, that's all I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, exceptionally. Yeah. So that's

my favorite conversation I have. Well, you know what and where does it make you uncomfortable sex? Yeah, I'm the games. Okay, we're talking about six minutes. Don't you want somebody to match your freaky though? Yeah, you got some ship going on with you and show me something you want somebody

to match that? I think that's what keeps your house quiet. Absolutely, you're a freaky motherfucking and you you want your spouse is a freaky motherfucking y'all do it like absolutely and exceeded, like she walked by and she walked by you when y'all in a fucking a restaurant or a lounge or something, she put out panties in your hand and match my That ain't ship. I thought, you go go. I thought, if you freaky type ship man freaky, absolutely don't match

that ship. You're absolutely? Yeah, absolutely, How far it's too far on the freaky side. I don't think it's such thing as too far. It has to depend on your you know, your significant other. I don't know. I think I don't. I don't want to be shipped. Probably I'm not. Yeah, you as everything should least be considered some people like animals. Yeah, yeah, I think that might be too that's that's too far.

You gotta say what it is you gotta say. I asked how far it's too far because some people like, because you know somebody, some guy might be listening to this and ship and then might meet you and you don't even know he's in mind politics of hook up up and then you'd be like, what the hell is that? Go doing hell again. My book on Amazon Kitties Litter, I'll talk about like when all the ship happened, when

Andrew give him all that. That's like every day that people on politics are the freaky is ever just like you think, you know rappers and entertainers, that creative energy, you know, what makes a person creative, whether they're a politician or pastor are pimp. Going back to what I said earlier, the nastiest people that you could ever imagine, nasty as hell. Three sons get down or gs. They do it all. They do it all. What's uh? What's

a no no for you? Hair pulling? Choking? Uh? What if a dude like grab you by the nick and d D T nick and just black slam? Yet? Yeah, I think a lot of women who y'all think quote unquote strong women. And I tell this to guys, you know when we when I'm having I call a straight shot no chase after dark. Women like myself enjoy see we don't have problems. I think the misconception I'm not

gonna speak for everybody, but I'll speak for myself. The misconception is because UM have a on personality and I'm in charge on the outside, that women like myself cannot be submissive on the inside. And that's totally not the case. There's something called the alpha submissive. When a woman really run her ship outside the household, she's looking to be dominated inside the household. If ye know, I'm telling that's

real because you're looking for a break. So I think the idea and why men are his I'm not even talking about me, just in general. Women in my space are hesitant to approach one. They think that we're extra, extra woke and not regular women. You know that you can just approach number two. They're intimidated because they think what they see on social media is how I am at home. They don't understand it. It's the total opposite. You look to be submissive, you look to nurture, you

look to cater because you run ship. Bosses that run ship don't need other jobs, you want to take time off. I am looking forward to you telling me what to do and how to do and where to go. And because if you're assuring yourself, you know you're not gonna allow you know, somebody leads you to slaughter. It's the women who don't run ship outside the house that feel like they gotta run a man. And that is probably one of the big biggest misconceptions with the alpha submissive.

There is such thing called alpha submiths or you're an alpha woman. Yeah, but I'm submissive. It's a difference, and I think men are hesitant with that with women in my space. They think we gotta run everything, and that's not the case at all. I don't talk about politics when I first of all, I've always will. Let mean I put I'm legally single. Let's put it that way. I think you're either married are your single um. But

you look for men or at least me. All the men updated have been what they would call probably toxic or too masculine or to whatever, because you that energy balances um a person. I like myself very well because you've probably gotta bait. They've never been a week a weak man in my life. It doesn't even match up. Um, and that that's a big misconception. So we want the aggression in the household and particularly in the bedroom. So all of those things that you talk about, is it

too far? There is no too far when it comes to me, the pleasing and it is ladies and gentlemen. Look, look where can people find you? How can you get just getting good in the sex conversation? You know we're gonna double back too. I'm gonna come on your show and we're gonna talk about sex. Yeah, like I really want to talk. I want to talk before we leave me and your age. Um the answers, Yes, I don't know if you want to do? Yes, this one a rectil,

this fun. Yes, we talked about that. Are y'all ashamed to use the pill? You're not ashamed? Okay, because nothing's wrong. Are you ashamed? I would not be ashamed to use anything that could give me an edge. Yeah, like, there's nothing wrong with it. I like to win. Is there a certain amount of shame you think? Though? Honestly? I like because taking pills like you give an extra turball, like you give an extra No. I like to win period. If I'm playing basketball in in the hood and we're

doing a three on three. I'm picking the best players out there. I don't care if you tell me I got the advantage. I want the advantage. If I catch you in the club and you're talking reckless to me and you're drunk, I'm gonna beat the brakes off your ass while you're dropped, because I want the advantage. I always want the advantage. Wrong. I believe in winning. I

believe in satisfying my woman by any means that's good. Well, I'm glad he I just want to put that on the record because I think a lot of y'all think that women look down on that, and that's not it at all. Like do whatever you feel like you have to do. Your testoster goes down at a certain name. I don't think a woman really cares about what you need to get there. We don't get hurt. You advocate

for that. When you want to talk about accountability and all, can you start talking about that ship, like about getting into that. I need I need to figure out a way to get a check with that, because that's a big business. That's if you can make a man feel like a man util it out of you, that's remember black and was like, oh, we gotta something that you know, they drop different sponsors. Interesting. They asked what I do want for e D And I was like, I'll be

like a sponsor, like the spokes person kidney failure. So yeah, So I'm a I'm a hard advocate for erection, erectile dysfunctional fucking man's because they got some cool shit out here. Yeah. Man,

I'm so glad to hear y'all say that. I would appreciate if you talk about that from every now and then, because they need to hear that it's okay because some men really just don't know's going there with a limpis gitting try and just like yeah, and then are trying to make it seem like oh as you yeah, we are it must I think that it's totally I think for a man underperformed during sex is a waste of

a woman's time. And I don't think you deserve if you underperformed every single time, every time, you ain't never sucked up. I don't suck up. I'm cold bloody, I'm cold out. I'm cold with it for real. And and I'm gonna say and I'm and I'm gonna say this when you made that statement about like the word on the streets or whatever, I really had to actually dialed it back. I actually dialed it back because I thought about it. I said, I really don't funk with chicks

to talk about business. You know what I'm saying, I don't really sunk with chickens running mouth like that. However, somebody could could again whatever, But but I'm but I'm saying that what I'm saying is that what I'm saying is that what I'm saying is that if somebody was talking my business, I know for a fact I'm blue ribbon. That's guaranteed. You'll be saying I ain't never had no complaint.

Y'all realize women don't complain, y'all. Y'all realized that, don't you. Well, the women I encourage any woman that I'm with you that I'm sure that that that that that I don't want, well, I'm sure that's possible or whatever. But women, most women

are not gonna say I'm sure that's possible. But if but if she's driving down the street and she's she's on that plane and she just called me and I ain't called him, that she's come out of blue and said, baby, you don't have to do it like that and smoke and then hang up and getting called right back. I'm telling you, baby, yeah, the problem I think about it like I have a girlfriend. She was like, oh, he always called. I'm like, sometimes you just convinced. It don't

mean you that that you're really good. It just means yeah, you know you'll do cool. You ain't all that. And women sometimes think, as you called her back that second or third time, oh it must be good. And I'm like, not necessarily, mama, you just might just speak of if it's not good, I don't waste my time. But I'm saying, decent let's talk about the world. Say I don't. I don't funk with decent. She it's got to be worth my time. I'm a busy man. Well, I want to

make sure women understand that that's you. Some some men will just deal with you. Was that true? We just deal with you out of convenience? Might be all right, it's got to be worth it's got to be worth my time. When I when I when I was younger, you know what I'm saying. But now it's like, it's got to be worth my time. I got ship to do for real and I'll work my time. Thank you for coming And how can people reach out? Tesla? That's my name everywhere. It's not changing Instagram, Twitter, We got

to get more people on Twitter. And the podcast Chaser on the Black Effect Podcast Network, Ities and gentlemen Hood Whispering. Thank you, Tesling figure o. This episode was produced by a King and to You Buy, The Black Effect Podcast Network and I Heart Radio