The Rod Man Episode

Don't get it twisted on Code and me and danced for no buttament biscuits. It's Willie d y'all scar facing the building. Collectively, we are the ghetto Boys, reloaded with another episode of information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world. In the studio, our special guest rod Man. What's up, Homie? Oh Man? Oh Man? Yeah, I think thank you. I appreciate that. Well yeah, yeah, I'm I'm in town. We uh here he's prob Yeah

tonight Dallas tomorrow night. So uh yeah, and I want to start write off apologies. We were supposed to have have started this thing. Uh at two pm CenTra time, which I was here at. I was probed. I believe in problem. I see you white one, okay, cause y'all got twins out there. Y'all twins were white, white and the black. I like that very pounder reach. But uh, I've seen the white pull up my man opening that Mark Henderson. He's coming off a fast okay, so he's now. I

don't think he got the ships. I think he was home red. So we went to the breath of Club. I got the Breath Club. We went to breath clud of the monthing. Never have anything great, man. I took anybody to the Breath Club, and they don't want in the breath add the Breath Club off a monk. Just a chicken wine. She said, just try a chicken wine breaks that's good. Yeah, But he said I can't. He's on. He need Yeah, he needs something, man. He don't want

that Greason about it right now? Yeah, So where'd you get? He went to the breakfast club and gotta sell it? No, he asked them do they have a salad? Do they have what you say the souper today? What is the super I said, this ain't. That's like that's like going to a breakfast spot in order and a hamburger. It ain't time. Yeah, you gotta you gotta you go to the breakfast club. You gotta order breath fishing, the rude word and breakfast club. What's the root word or breakfast exactly? Salad. Yeah,

so I had some good fishing grits. That's why I'm I was there for that this morning. That's my go to meal at the breakfast class. Can't can't go can't go wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, I'm a little ground ghost. Okay, let's see that black jake. I have. I grew up on grape jelly, but I have opened my jelly palette. J I do strawberry look and I'm jam. I put the jam in that, and I have been

known to make a mama lad. I don't know what. Yeah, you're just just putting you take the orange or something. You can just just break it down the zest and make it make yourself a mama lad. Okay, but that's that's that's jelly talk, Yeah, jelly jam talk. Yeah. Yeah. But now I always love love coming and big big fans of course, y'all, y'all are the soundtrack of my my my uh, growing up developed them. Welcome you to the city. Thank you, thank you, sir, thank you, Yes, sir, sir.

Stay out of the potholes. The potholes that's that on the streets. That's gonna be in the Yeah, a lot of places, Oh potholes. Yeah. No, my audience is, uh, I have a couple. I've been married twent twent in three years. I tend to attract people who have a little invested time together. So that's that's usually. I don't I don't get the pot if some potholes out there. It is, yeah, it always is, But I don't get

I get them coming together most of the time. And you don't have too much ruggets at your shoves, not a lot. Every once and then they're like, oh this is something, this is this is this is a little different you got. I'm a storytell I'm from the classic. I'm a classic stand up. Ain't ain't uh this generation? I'm generation. Yeah, I'm staying. Mike stays. Yeah, So you gotta stay you know, in the way, see what you don't stay right now? So is that you gotta say

you gotta stay connected. It's a connection. Yeah, in your opinion, who is the greatest comedian of all times. Wow, I see that's a that's a loaded question. The bro the greatest comedian all time, and my book is Richard. Go ahead, Okay, I don't know because comedy is subjective, so you can't you can't say one person was the greatest about that. He was the most controversial, the most uh talking about the most historical value whatever. Richard got all that. But

I think dying. Yeah, he's the bar of especially even and the girls pross color lines too. He's just the bob. But that's what a comedian po to do. But because he was dead and that this time, everybody else stick to a formula, and Richard came along and told you about his life and he was actually living that life. So you've seen folks. So he came with a different style. So I think anytime you come with a different style, people naturally gravitate to that style and then you have

a lot of what it's called cloning. H Well, who is your favorite comedian all time? My favorite comedian of all time is probably I got Richard is one of them. Uh, George Calling is one of them. I like Gallagher too. It's pretty weird that the Wilder Malon. Guy, that's a laye. That's what comedists ject. Whoever on bust Water. I like, uh Da Chappelle's is great, Chris Rock is great. So it's just like we we have targument about uh basketball

players or football eras. It's just it's just eras of of what we call greatness and and in communists that what I say subjected. So I don't I don't think I have a who I think the greatest all the time and who I think? Uh. I like to look at it like boxing raps, like top five, Yeah, you have a top five mount rushmo. Yeah. So Richard Eddie Edie first come out in leather and then they're like, oh you know what made when you got that leather on?

So Eddie was a different beast and he and he didn't even get to develop all that because movies and everything he took him away. Yeah, but that man was walking around them, how the leather types. I'm mad for that. But we're good. We all right, we alright, well we're good and nobody never, nobody has never seen that before, like what is this? And then so Eddie too, Uh we got Colling on there and we got Bill Cobby on that out Bill Cobby. Outside of what Bill I'm

talking about, he clif hostable I'm talking about. I'm talking about, Uh Bill Cosby himself stand up. Just go back and watch Billcocks himself talking about his family. Different. He had a different style. So it's he's on the matter regards of what he did on the back end, all well, thank you. And then he was acquitted for that ship like we was and the cold have been sealed, so that's getting into her nothing. But he wasn't well just

for uh factuality, he wasn't acquitted. He wasn't acquitted. The charges were thrown out. Okay, so yeah, so he was drawing. I'm talking strictly comedic talent and opening was the first, uh go back to ASPA. He made the stunt people Hollywood to do stunts. So he opened that whole lane for people to get work because it went no stunt

man getting work like that. Bill Cobba did that. So Big Big Guy was a great stand up and great But I don't know about the stuff, but on and and five it is probably yeah, who Uh, I don't want I don't want to lead the ladies out. I don't want to lead the ladies out. Uh, who I think is a great one of the sack is a great lady comedian. You know who I think is like it is a lot of great ones out there. But when I when I bar for bar joke per minute? Uh huh Underwood. Oh oh yeah, Now I don't know.

I don't know the new Share but yeah pocketbook Karen Share. Yeah, and she was the first, So I don't know what she is now. Black black black. And she was a Republican. Yeah, she had she had a whole another thing. Is it a problem that she's a Republican? Oh no, no, I'm just saying that was a different hook. Uh no, Your your affiliation is your affiliation. But you know, you know black Volte is like we we were boring into, uh the Democratic Party, and then you're like, what you gotta

figure out what party you were? But you gotta figure out man. Yeah, So that that that that I always thought you'd be who you be, You're thing you ain't gotta you ain't gotta you gotta follow the cattle that called all the cats democrats democrats. H Well, I'm independent, I mean, but I probably not voted. Mo. Well, I ain't gonna get into there. But yeah, thing and and and and and will you don't have to agree with me on this, man, because we hardly ever agree on ship.

But I think that this next primary and and and the next uh major election we have, I think all Democrats hold back their votes and don't vote ship until we start seeing something. Stop stop, stop giving your fucking votes away, for these clowns are coming there and sitting just just just coming for photo option. You know, like like I'm sick of that ship. We had a great movement with that this last time. Yeah, but we're not getting nothing. But no, no, this is what I'm saying.

We had a great we had a strong movement. I was saying, I'm gonna hold my vote, hold my vote, hold my vote. Even me, I was on some hold my vote until like the last month in two and I was like, I'm tired of looking at Donald Trump, ugly ass face. I'm tired of here in his mouth. So I just wanted him to be done with him. And I knew I didn't. I didn't expect much from

from Biden. I'm straight up, I didn't expect much from him, but I just felt like, man, we across that bridge when we get that, and we have and we are there. And I'm gonna tell you, I feel exactly like you feel, Bro. I feel like we have to hold that vote. Otherwise, what is the incentive for them to do right by us? Nothing? They have none. And I know that's hard for somebody, some people out there to even found him, but man, we really do we We ain't getting nothing, man, these people.

I mean, if not for the black vote, then the Democrats don't win. So they win and they get in and what do they do spit in our face with this Asian hate? Bill, Man, I ain't got nothing against Asian people, Bro. Everybody should everybody should be protected. But we have been the least protected, bro in this country. And we've given more to this country than any other race of people period, including white people. Black people built

this country. Nobody else built this country. We built this country. So we deserve just as much, if not more, prosperity than anybody. I agree with you on on on that, will Uh. I don't agree with the the whole year vote because it's is you still gotta have somebody, somebody in the room who who at least you feel has your interests until you get your interests met, So you still have if we know, we know once that maybe

ain't got none of your interests in in mind. You you have seen something you have The Republicans probably have more of your interests in mind than you think. But I don't disagree with that. But I'm saying resulting the proof is in the pudding. So if if if your life, I always say politics is your life, your personal life has to change with God's who in office. If your life don't change, it's still you still gotta do what you gotta do. You can never just look to politicians

to change your life. Regardless of who in office, you still gotta get up very moaning whatever your uh profession, hustle deal, whatever you got, the you got the move that needle on your own, and then you wouldn't be Reilly against the system as much. You know, you know it's systematic things in place to keep us down on black people down, or Asian down or what I mean. We had a rock I mean in office, we did. We did, and we say, okay, we'll approached racial world,

but we we're never gonna be po racist. So we we're dealing with the race thing period, each and every day and now we they're listening. But it's progress. It is a slow they some someone listening. They're listening. In my company, I tract white people, black people, Asian people, So I had to make all this like like I started comedy with with black people, Urban all the way. Then I groot audience, did a show called that Come

Standing now as America Season Nate That Come Standing. So no, no, it's just it just introduced your your voice, your comedy to a bigger audience. But what I have found in that journey too, everybody has agreements, everybody has something that they and whoever we you rap, rampumps, you got a voice, You got a voice, I got a voice. So is how we use our voice to motivate r P well the people who because you can be a messenger the people I can't reach. You can be a message to

people I can't reach. So we're all a different messenges. We just we want the same thing. We won't fair, quality, equality, we won't. We want to empowerment, we won't take you off and want to raise our kids, want kids to have a better all those things, all those things. We all want the same thing, but we can never get it. You can get it. You can get it with force. But you still gotta have a voice in the room who has your best and that and that's what we're saying.

We don't have a voice in the room that has our best. But but we're going to buy a face because we was just gonna go buy the face. About faces, it's about party, it's about whoever. I think it's a person, the face, the face is not being represented properly. I agree with you, anyone the Democrat, let me say this something. I'm gonna be done with it. The Democrats, white, black, you know exactly what the problem is with with us. And they're not saying ship. They're not doing ship, and

they don't deserve my vote. Period. I take my chances with a Republican. No, I take my chance with none of their asses. I'm not I wouldn't give it away to any one of them. It's like we listen when you talk to if you don't vote, you say, if you don't vote, we gave it away. So if you give it so, if you so, if you give it to somebody who don't do ship for you didn't you didn't give it away. I feel, you know what the

they don't do ship for us. They don't do ship with us in mind at all, at least at least a Republican cut of taxes. Depending on what your bracket is, you do. But the majority of black people die. Okay, and wena have you gotta have somebody that like you got you you considered successful, so you gotta have somebody to be successful for other kids and coming along to be able to emulate. That said, you've got certain principles

that these are some principles to success. So if you can go back and tdse kids the next generate, these are some principles young man, young lady that you can you to better your life. Don't don't worry about what's going on over there. This and knowing, knowing where you come from. You, I'm sure you got gang of people in my family. I first want to do comma, any kind of entertainment. Now, I got rappers, I got book writers, I got shelves, I got all kinds of different artistic expression.

People had locked up because they've seen one person do it. So even if we we progress is always slow. So it was progress. Progress is not always slow. Progress. Progress Uh happens overnight when those who are in power wanted to happen overnight, when they wanted to happen immediately. It happens to media when it comes when it comes to us, when when when it comes to us, They're always talking

about progress as progress is slow, progress is slow. No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no. Uh if if somebody was let's say, somebody put their hands on your sister, your mama, Uh, it's progress slow. When when you when you hold on, when you get ready to get at their ass, is that probably are you're gonna be like when you know, I can't do it right now. Man, I can't get at you right now because because because progress is slow, uh, you know it's gonna be slow.

So I'm I'm gonna wait for about five years and then I come see you. Okay, but see, but that's still I'm probably gonna respond because I was gonna be an emotional decision because I'm passionate most of the decisions right now, but I'm gonna be passionate about my mama and sisters. So until we find a person who about the black people are passionate about getting that progress, we we we we can't I always say, we're energy, we're trained for any so we all know what we need.

You you could speak what I'm saying. I'm passionate about more people, right, So I'm not. I'm not. I'm not mad at any other people. I love everybody. But the further the older I get, and the further we come along in this country that we live in, man, I realized how far we are behind everybody else. Well, y'all you know we we we we gave you all ence, and we gave you'll give me all my ship, give me all my ship at one time when the fun is you spoon feeding me. I get that. I deal

with that. This's and doing in entertainment. We all deal with that. Like worth you're talking about is different. Yeah, he's talk about worth, he's talk about work. You mentioned you mentioned earlier about you know how you grew your audience and now you have a mixed audience, right, you know you have a lot of white fans. But what we do too, we have a we have a we have a large a large portion of our fan base

is white. But that don't stop us from expressing ourselves and ride and speaking on the truth and what's going on and and the fans that are real fans. And we got some fair weather fans who who are out there just like everybody else. They just fans of the music. They like the music, they stick to the music. Shut up, shut up, and wrap. You know, we got those types. But but but the fans that we funk with for real, they understand, they understand what's happening, and they support what

we said, what we got to say. Now, we're never gonna get to a point to where where we are going to be silent so a fan can be comfortable. You know, We're not gonna be I I'm never gonna be silent about you know, uh, somebody doing wrong to me, a wrong in my people. And I'm gonna be silent just because I got some fans over here that's buying my records that don't look like me. You know what I'm saying. I'm never gonna be like. I'm never gonna be a dude. Well, I got white fans to what

Republicans buy my records too. So you said I never, I never, I never, I never, I'll never, I'll never. I'll never compromise my integrity. You know, I'll never compromise my manhood to to to to appease someone who is uh anybody, especially somebody, but especially somebody who uh is insensitive to pain and struggle and and and people being done wrong. See, we got that's a white kid by the name a Hunt of Britain who was who was murdered recently in Arkansas and um by the police. The

police gonna dude down. The dude had an issue with his truck. He get of his truck. Uh, he had a transmission issue with his truck. And he has some anti freeze in the back of the truck and he the policeman pulled him over. He get out the truck and reach the grat anti freeze. Police gun them down. Now, all these times, all these murders with black people getting killed, many of these people in this rural community, this rural Arkansas community, never spoke out against police brutality, never once

road for the victim. They were always apologizing for the police and being very understanding. They was screaming back the blue back, the blue Blue Lives Matter. Were not at the white boy get killed. Now, it's justice, justice for hunters, justice for hunters. See, people A lot of times oftentimes people don't feel anything. They don't feel empathy for other human beings until they knock on their door. Um, when i'm bullets show up and there family members are their

loved one's body. Then all of a sudden, oh not as person. Now we care you see. But what's gonna happen is that they're gonna settle out of court. They're gonna write a family big check. More than likely the cop ain't gonna go to jail because if he does, as a set of presidents, they don't want that to happen. So unlikely cop gonna go to jail, and then after that it's gonna they're gonna be right back to normal. Because we live in the type of society where people

just don't care about other people. We don't. We don't. We don't love our neighbors. We don't love our neighbors children, we don't. Well, that's that's getting into uh well we that little device right here has changed how society. Hey, that's like you used to see something going down. Hey, let me, y'all stop that, y'all break that now is let me get the footage. So now everything everybody has become monetized. Sea. So we were actually living in capitalistic times.

So if I can capitalize, not me personally, but people look at you as as product now, not as a hearing being. So if I'm gonna help you, how's that gonna help me? That's how people are looking at stuff. They're not They're not looking at it as humanity. So I always say, uh, white people can't can't be the more police because of history. You can't be the more police. And and they just know that they can't be because the morality portion of it. You know, some stuff being

done so you can dave me. So we we are the loving people. I know that. But like they got some here, we are the sunden people. We're very we're very enlightened. Like you said, we don't room feed me. No, we want we want the whole meal. But they like they who being whoever you want day to be the power to be. They like to control how the food is being fed. Give you something, but I'm not gonna give you the whole the whole play, because I gotta stay in control of how you move or how you

you can. You got your voice, but I still had to control certain things. That's like me, I should be booked all the time because there's enough audience for that. But dinner with agency and managing the people, well, you know. So it's always gonna be some obstruction along the way to you getting where you're gonna do. But as long as you keep in mind, oh I know where pol, I know where poled to be, I know where to look like. You just gotta keep running your race. And

that's how we're doing. And that's why we were endurance people. That's why we got great endurance. So why we're very athletic because God knew it. Whoever you call your God, he knew. Hey, didn't y'all have. Y'all have a fight for everything that you get. But you're gonna get it, but it might not be in your time. It might have me and my time might have be in your time ranged if resh slows. So we're planning to seed. We're not gonna eat all DC. My little kid planning

some seeds. He he didn't get to see all the fruit of the seeds. But we're eating off those fruit. And this we're gonna plans most seeds. Somebody gonna eat about fruit. But we're not gonna get all the fruit in our generations. But we can reil on it. We can reil on it because we can. Hey dude, no no, not gonna don't No no, they might not own it, but next generate the generated come high, they names gad boys. Reloged podcast will be right back after the poet. Let's

go back to the shows. Let's go back to your to your performances. I do wonder why I don't see more of rod Man out there on the road or on TV doing shows and stuff like that. Yeah, if you've you've done The Bad Boys of Comedy, and you've done the Last Comic Standing, and you know, you've you've done a number of TV shows and you've even done what's that movie you did with that Adams Funny People,

The Funny People. You know, I'm thinking, like any moment, this dude is shoo like Spanish fear so so like what the when? Like? How frustrating is that to know, man, that you have the talent and you keep running into the stumbling blocks? Uh? Is I always look at as part of my It's part of my journey. It's not it's not new that it happened to me in any comment I talked to, Uh that came before me? Oh that ain't new they're gonna they're gonna do that. Oh

they did that, They're gonna do that. So it's all a part of the growth process. Would you say it's agent or management? Huh? Management, It could be any anybody. It don't matter what title. But you don't you don't never h It's like the lite order T I s A. It is wrapped. You find friends and folds when people

get into you, So you don't. You don't you as you go, you have your chill leaders, and then you also have people who like try to slow that process down because whatever they're going through, whatever fear they have that you're gonna get ahead of them or whatever. So you have those people who want to, as they say, piss on your five sometimes. And how do you when this is happening, how do you keep your spirits up

and maintain God? Man, I pray. I come from a praying family, So you gotta you gotta pray, and you gotta uh, you gotta believe in your original vision for yourself. So I I try to take care of me first. If I can take care of me, and I and I spread a little a little joy, a little funny, then I did my part for this I understand commonly music it's a ministry. This is how this is how many preachers preach, they do their thing. I made people laugh, that's medicine. Music made people joy. Take you to a

place that's medicine. So it's our medicine. It's just sometimes people don't want to give you to bid and do your medicine in. But you know where you're medicine pops to be distributed. It's just you gotta keep you gotta keep plugging away and doing your thing. And that's that's that's how I look at it is, uh, whatever, whatever obstacles I face or whatever things, that's that's having me grow. So it's it's it's refining me. And it ain't never.

It ain't never nice when it's happening, they're like, well, because I'm how does fish freezing just do boo boo boo. But you had I said let's go do way. People said let's go to west and now we need to go that way. You said let go I said you go the way, but not do not do you believe that when you were saying going this way, do you believe that your way was the wrong way? Right way? You believe you. But I'm but I'm saying, do you

believe that now? Even now you believe your your way was the right way, right, So so you don't believe that what happened. So what I'm trying to get to is that at no point had did your did your work ethic slow down? That never slowed slow down? If that didn't contribute to anything as far as like your work ethic or your ethic or your attitude toward toward

the industry. M I think we all get some get some nicks and some scars along the way, Like I appreciate that, But but did they ever break your spirit enough to make you say, I'm not I'm I'm gonna pump the brakes on this for a while. Okay. Uh it made me hungry or and it made me and it made me look at the mirror, check myself and say, okay, what can I do better? Okay? So so you got so you just got some blockers out there. It's some

blockers out there on you. I don't but I have no name, no face, But I always say it started man in the mirror, So I gotta make some lift, not right, So yeah, I always go back to source me gud and say, okay, what can I do to better men and learn from those things that I made them? I made it might be me, So I'm never I'm not was saying somebody else is outside of me, because everything aspos inside of me, right, I just gotta I

just gotta unlock it. So whatever whatever like you say, should code do, uh, you have to unlock those things. Like I know, I put to be a bigger voice and do, but I gotta I gotta be a lot to to do those things. So it's it's I think it's got a lot to do with management an agent stuff. Well that that's a whole yeah, because put you in different different in front of different people, and they don't know and sometimes they don't know yes, and sometimes they

don't know what they have. So sometimes they judge black talent sometimes or group us all together and say, okay, you're this kind of talent, couse and we all got on a hat, we this kind of talent though, we all got a tattoo. We did kind of talent though. So it's not if you can't you can't box talent in. You just always say let the people decide. So who those who pot to hear my boys. They're gonna respond

of my boys, So correct me if I'm wrong. So after you won last Comic Standard, that was a huge platform. That was time, it was time to go. Okay, So do you believe that perhaps you know, the people who was supposed to be picking up the phone making cars was sitting back waiting on the phone the ring. Yes, okay, yeah, yeah, they said, we don't. We don't want him to we don't want him to have that like that, because it was it was, it was powerful, I mean, and it's

still it's still powerful because a guy like me. Oh, I always say boring into poverty, but I've been able to grow it and attract the larger, larger audience of people who appreciate what I do. And sometimes if you can't control that, sometimes you say just kill it, try to kill it or whatever it is. But you don't like you know, when I come to Houston, I'm doing a whole weekend again one night. I appreciate it, but I know I'm a weekend guy. I'm I'm a monkey guy.

Put me on the monkey here. Let me let me build that weekend out. Well, Well, you know, it's been it's been a minute since everybody's seen, and so they they they're trying to they're a little scared to see, trying to see what's happening. Well, the thing about the thing about it is that like you know, I mean, we're in the same space. So anytime that you've been off the scene for a while, the promoters don't really know.

Even it doesn't matter how much success you've had in the past, the promoters don't really know what the crowd reaction is going to be. So sometimes instead of them saying, okay, man, we're gonna go all out on this tour, we're gonna just just roll Werena, We're gonna run it all. You know, we're gonna book the standard. You know, Thursday through Sunday. We're gonna run it Thursday Sunday, two shows a week. You know, if it gets hot, we're gonna run three

shows a night. You know, understanding, stay two shows a day in instead of you instead of two, we're gonna do three shows. Right. So, uh So, if you've been out the mix in a while and the analytics are not there, that they're going they're going about current analytics and they're going, like, you know what, instead of doing it like that. We're gonna do it like this, similar to what happened with Monique, right. Yeah, but you know, analytics sometimes can be uh controlled to on that. Well,

I only get in the money moga on deal. I I don't have that deal because I have relationships where it is good. It's just coming to what what makes sense. So it's always it's always uh, I can work with anybody, anybody, I have no problem, but it has to make sense for everybody. So we gotta we gotta path. You can't say let me get did much of the path and then just say here, peaceful you. We had to get this past, say okay, well let's see how we want

invide up. I won't everybody eat, but I also want too. So sometimes data analytics all that, Oh that's going to play. But sometimes those sometimes those are not the true Because I'm in I'm in the I always say, sometimes you a man, they're not on the road with you, so they don't see the people, see they're actual you. Sometimes the people they don't see the see the crowd. But if I'm in Houston, I've been there with people, are we can get the vibe, been around and see it

a little bit. I'm feeling the vibe of the city. So it's always I'm on the ground a little a little bit different. So I can I can go back and say, well, this is what's really happening. I know you got this these in front of you, but I was there these what this is what really happened. So you can do you can do sometimes with you can you can create a narrative, as they say, So sometimes a narrative get created on you. But you're like that ain't that ain't that ain't the truth. So it's like

you were saying, trying the big lie. So sometimes in the entertainment there's a big lie that goes on and you're like, that ain't the truth. So you the you have to fight for your truth. You said you grew up in poverty and right uh uh high school because viller Ica is only like forty minutes away from Atlanta. Yeah yeah, but that's when you're in the country. That's that's far Atlanta is, that's that's the city. And you got so you come from a city with fifteen thousand

population and you move on to Atlanta. That's got teammates always yeah, it's uh yeah, So I've been in a different locale location, so so yeah, but I still keep that small time mentality. It's still about family relationship, uh, bunding experiences and things like that. So I still I still understand those principles that go into how far I can go and I'm always gonna have support. How how was that support system when you were growing up? Like

what kind of household did you grow up in? Uh? Uh, single parents, but uh has step dad, but you know, if some abuse go home, So it was it was, it was we had something. We had some domestic violence issues and Staddy we did one two times, but he met with two brothers, me and my sister. My mama had folk ki is you know? And where are you in that line? Third, I'm the last son. Then my sisters.

Uh yeah, we were eight years apart though, so so uh yeah, so you know, and uh so we we moved her Like I went to three elementary schools, so we moved a lot. But because my mama was dealing with one to three, I went to three too. I went to four. See, and man, we moved. So so sometimes you realize, oh, making friends because you know, I don't know how long I'm gonna be here. So those things catching the duthood too. So I always found myself

leaving you can kind of school. Yeah, I went to one middle school and one yeah, but the element school. I moved around a lot of yeah yeah so but but I realized that with my mama moving from these uh away from these abusive men. So so we uh so I do advocate for uh moms and single moms and and and uh you know, raising raising your kids the best way you know, you know, and we we

gotta have the fathers in the house. So but sometimes as a as a black man, we we we have not learned to love our sisters uh properly, and that that takes that takes time to progressive. Well, I think it's important that just to say, as as men, we haven't learned to love women properly, because you know, black men do not have uh does not have uh you know, lack of love on lock. You know what I'm saying, like, we don't we we're not we don't have a corner.

You know what I'm saying, we don't have we don't have the market corner. You can look at these other other uh, these other groups and stuff, and you see just as much as domestic violence going on in their groups. Snap snap yeah yeah yeah, everdly somebody else don't know how ye just go. We won't put a put a race on the thing. It starts with with loving yourself how I love you, and then you you'll be able

to branch off and love other people. That's it. Yeah, so you know that's because that that's what That's what happened with me. Man. I when I, once I learned to love myself, I actually started making sure that my my actions were indicative of the outcome that I wanted. So I was like, you know, yeah, I mean I wanted. I was like, man, once I learned, I stopped bullying people time because you just you got sad, you got both. I remember I used to call Willie on the phone.

I just called Willie. I say, Willie, what what's something? When your head it was young, the way you want me Tommy ready to go to the club and say what you going to the club for? Say so I can fight? So here was that dude that turned the club back? I'm just saying that I was, but I was over that by that by that time, I want to see, I got to a point to where where I just realized that man like life is too short

for all of that. Man like people. Life is short, and it can be shorter if you if you're a bully, you know, because somebody will get you. You know that come into place of love. If you're coming to place I'll come in in the rod his peace. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta. I was saying, I gotta bring my peace. I can't coming to your stone if you bring the storm. But sometimes people want to braining getting but the storm. And I learned it's JUSI a uh

something that triggers that. So uh, if you if you heard, like brand said, if you're heard in in somebody, you you might mean sometimes we don't have a bird bit of the words to put what what that? What that is? Like I just told you when the three element school do you start kind of what damn? I element school too? So that that does have an effect on who you are. And if you don't deal with those things alone the way, So you gotta deal with your relationship with your brothers

and sisters and why that happened like that? How was your like he was left me? How you so my family big overall family, But uh, mostly immediate families with stay we we we used to have family union, but they were sporadic. They didn't happen every year. So that that hasn't the fact with where other people were like, oh, y'all have family you get teachers there, you want teachers there year. You might get a teacher every two year. So it's just how your famish. Yeah, so's it's high.

It's high set up. But those things has an effect as you get becoming adults. I was a sports play boys, but I remember my mom didn't come to the game, like we felt she should come to the game. The same problem. I had the same problem. Yeah, so let my way I got Yeah, she said I was that work, but like you know, you look at me like what I scold this, I need you to. I ran tout down, I'll be at the next one. But that oh yeah

I'm not. Yeah yeah, I got laughed. That little point guard you know had Yeah, it's a difference that now I had a football was breaking on dudes when you was scoring point I was no. I just hey, I had my own yeah little thing, but now I wanted to try. I was. I was more fundamentally, but I always had a little flair. Look look I'm on no, look you're on the court. I'm okay, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, I get over here. So you know here fundamental, so fundamental.

So you learned sometimes you can be too flashy, you go down yea. Yeah. Just make the simple chest paths or the simple bound path. Just catch it with both heads, sir. So those things. Man. You know, I was just thinking about that domestic violence issue and when Brad said, you know, you gotta love yourself first. It all, it all starts with loving yourself first, and then you you have an

idea of how to love others. And I think when you get into a relationship with a woman, I think it's important that you're not just love that woman, but you love her family. Yes, and this, this is, this is this goes beyond what many people today think because a lot of times today people don't they think they

got this. It's us against the world, it's it's me and you were budding Clyde and I don't like your mama and I don't you don't like my dad and you don't like that's a problem, that's very Those type of relationships are problematic. Uh, you show me a family you show me a dude and a girl that's in a relationship where the chick don't like his parents or in family, and he don't like her family. They it's

always it's toxic. It's very toxic. And when you when you learn to love a woman's family, uh, you are least likely even when you are, you know, being emotional or whatever, you're least likely to harm that woman in any kind of way because it ain't about you being afraid of her family. Now because some dudes like I ain't scared of your family. Boom boom boom. You know what it's like. No, I love a family. I don't want to calls harm to them, even though but what

you did, I don't want to hurt her. I'm not gonna do this to her because I don't want to hurt her mother. I don't want to hurt her father. I don't want to hurt her sister. I don't want to her a brother. You see, and and and so so to. For me, there's no way that I would be in a relationship with a woman if I if I can't see myself love it on a family. Well, I call that adding value. So if I'm not adding value to your life. I'm subtracted from you, so please

leave me because I'm not no good for you. So if I go to the attitude, I'm coming in and add value to your life, your brother, your sister, and if you don't, if you don't receive it, and that's on you. But I'm here to add value. But sometimes woman, man, you're not ready to receive that. Let me go back to plan to see you. If it don't work out, I planned to see I came in love. I came

to make this happen. Love your family, whatever. Sometimes that just you're not the person for them for this season, a reason or whatever it is. You gotta move up. But if, if, if you're the right person that value you add, they're gonna be so you we're we're pouring into each other time you're pouring me. Right now, he pointed me, I'm poor. Were pouring into each other. Now, if if it's toxic as pausing, I can't. I can't use that. But if it's something in love and good

and they're gonna help to grow, they will. We'll see the results of that. So you you always see the results of what you what you pull into your children, your family all you see the results. He's like, if you're the problem, you had to remove yourself. But sometimes we don't. We don't have those mechanisms, so we lash out. We don't have those COVID up. So we go to the bottle, We smoke a little bitter, we probably a little bit. And then now you're on another road. Now

because now you ain't. Now you ain't even you don't even send them who you need to be to deal with whatever it is that's in front of you. Because I've seen that with my step that he go to that ere J, then he turned into a whole another person when you get on the n J. But when he on the night he's driving white walls. What do

you think that made him become an alcoholic? Wait? Wait, wait, what if he didn't say it was an alcohol If if he went to that J and he went to that e n J sound like you said he was saying he went to that say, I say people turn into different people when something when at all. Sometimes that all would take you to another place. And then you know what he said, you might I can't agree with if you if you use, if you use any mind mind altering substance, and you can't control yourself. Your ass

is an attic. It's something that I thank your mother just overdid it. So he overdid it, and how many how many times did he overdo it? I mean something, he just got fun up. Now. Yeah, he would drink and then he would get Well, you ain't never just said it's a joke. He never just said my stepdad. You ain't never just saiding to creer with man, and you'd be like, ain't when we ain't got ship to do, let's just go get sucked up. Yeah, man, say that. I didn't say that. I said what you lose control

of yourself. No, it's not easy for me. Well ship, Well, you ain't never got drunk. I ain't sun motherfuck. I ain't never did that. It's not a habit broke. It's not even get it want. It's not it's not a hap. It's not a habit for me getting it getting drunk and going to whoop the mask. It's not a hand. It's never been sound man or some ship. But it's never been having that. I was not drunk. You're like an old married couple. I was not drunk. I was drunk.

Now you do what constituted what in your mind? What constituted me being drunk? That motherfucking bottle empty in the dressing room constituted that. So so, if you drink so you, so you, if you drank a bottle, you drunk. That's what you're saying. If you drink a bottle of beer, you're drunk. I'm not gonna drink a little beer. You ain't gonna drinking or not. But you was drinking the ship out of the old English Just back, old english man,

just down and man, yeah small look, yeah, I get it. Though, let me say again, this guy is incorrigible by say, man, how is it? How do you use your comedy uh? I guess uh expressions to translate into the to the film world. You know, like does it help at all? Just your stand up your stand up routines? You know, you think, like, let's go back to I'm a classic stand up so you you you you you think that's a natural the movies and acting and all that. But

everything comes from the stand up. So I it's already written it. If I want to do certain things, it's already written. Those those jokes are skit, those already written. So sometimes people can't put me in the I go and read for something. You know, I did pretty good on that. Look, but they're looking for a certain things for their vehicle. So we all the time. Now you can you can use your own vehicle. You can. This

is y'all, this is the vehicle. So you can create your own vehicle and the and the public is right there. You you got access to the public. So I think old time you you you want to be greatest that up and then get in the movie. Now I don't. I don't look at it like that. Now. Now, I just want to be a great stand up and then I use that platform and build movie, TV, podcast, whatever I want to be from that. But I gotta I gotta continue to build that audience. Do you have a podcast?

Not yet? Got Yeah? I used to do a time out and bring that back, so yeah, we're gonna bring bring that now. If I was your manager, your agent, I would have walked you straight in the Comedy Central bro first. That was my first move. Man. You would have walked into the heads the powers that be and start getting your scripts to read for different ship bro and perhaps maybe getting you your own, uh late night

talk show on Comedy Central. Because I mean, you're that fucking good you that funny bro, Thank you, thank you. I like, I just don't think you're getting justice. Well we we we we we got a team, build a new team of people who see what you see. It's like, well what were we doing? So what what can we do? A right man? So yeah, we can, we can do something those ideas late nights talk that's been Hey what about did what about? Did they go to the next man of wound within it? But then well my, what my?

I just gave you that idea, but I don't always get that results. So that's how I know if you're a fan of that, because back give you the idea and you don't, you don't bring it back nothing. I know you you went from me on that one. But because I know I agree with you and all that, So yeah, I forgive it. I giving that late Knives out. I've been great on that. Yeah you like Yeah, because I'm from our seneo hall era, so that was my ceneo. I said, I would love to do that right there,

and I've I've I've pitched that before. Yeah, so it's some funny ship. They're could be done with you with the right people, that's our team. Chimbridy. We just watched the NBA Championship. That's some unbelievable ship right there. Walking bust that. Yeah, I mean the kids used to walk the streets selling, you know, like the person he's sold persons. But it's just like going to Mexico, they set the chicklets or whatever. So he's a kid on the street.

So the hunger hunger level a year, Middlitant. You look at his story he went to d Yeah, they all cool cat so so. And that's that's why I try to be cool within the because I know it's all the process, so progress. I know all those things shall be added, but in the process, I gotta be doing what I got to do. So I can't losing through that just because you lost enthusi as mommy. I can't lose through that one. Yes, I'm gonna continue to work.

And that's that's what I enjoyed. I started under stand up so if nothing else happened in my life and I can still go get up and get my thoughts and making fun and add medicine people out a little joy for that hour o and here, then that's good. Let me ask you a question. So are you, um do you do you ever want to do like door deals at these improvs? You know, like this this is what this is what's on my mind right now. This. Yeah,

so this is what's what's on my mind. Man, Like, like I believe so much in myself until I'm willing to go to every spot in this country on a door deal because I know that I can put asses in the seat. You ever feel like that? I do that, You do that, That's how you do it? Okay? Cool? Yeah, I'm just running behind with you. Yeah, I like it. If you if you can't, if you can't bet on yourself, you know, why would anybody else bet on you if you won't If you won't bet on yourself. Yeah, I

always believe that. And then that, but you run into you run into issues with I just thought Jay Leno the other day and uh damn Jay Leno. Yeah, and then you said talk show and then that popped in my head. So I was at a club and he was going up and then he said he was telling his experiend by getting the Tonight show. And he said he said was when Johnny Carson left, it was eight

of them and going up doing guests, whole spots. He said, everybody else was making twenty five thousand dollars when they guess, so he was making scale five hundred and one dollars. But but the people, all the people were represent by one agency, one management come, I won't say the name. And then they came to him said well, you need to get on board because everybody else making this and you're messing up, saying you need to be making this too.

He said, no, I'm cool with a fighting one. So long story short, he said, got down to picking the who's gonna be the next over and they said, well we could save money, and this is my money. We picked this guy he said that ended up leaving the thirty million. Now, yeah, that's a beautiful story. So he was just saying, I always played the play the long play.

You just tell me play long. It'll be fine. Play back in a lot of people would would today especially would pass that deal up because they already think that everybody rich already. I don't know how everybody got rich about rich? I did everybody get rich? Like? Did I miss the rich? Yeah? Like every every time I soaund like people talk on money now they think yeah, yeah, yeah, then some money doesn't even talk to the right. So it's a it's a it's a different generated. But you

stand that's there that generation. My daughter said that, that's that's that's yeah, y'all. So when you know you're getting grown like that don't make sense. No, I'm I'm funking. People put money in crown you all your back. They didn't just put the money out. That voice reloaded podcast will be right back after the Do you think it's fair that you've been categorized as a hood comedian. I've never been categorizing hood commedie. Okay, you never never. I'm

saying this this, This is what I mean. I'm talking about in your appearance, the appearance. See, you got the cap, you got hold on, hold on, you got the cap, You got the sun classes on in this dark as room, you know, and you got the hood vernacular. Man, you know what I'm saying, Like, this is what I'm saying. I personally don't see nothing wrong with when I say. When I say a hood comedian, I ain't saying that you only represent the hood or you can only appeal

to the hood. I'm talking about as far as your swag. You got a hood comedian type swag. Yeah, with with with that, with that cap, those lokes, Well that's the way this go branding. And I always have war cap. So if you say me any time, ain't I'm talking about it's the lokes. It's the loakes more than anything but the loakes, the dog lokes and the and the and the and and the cap. But this is my

every day walk around. So but when I get on stage, I get I get clean, and but I still have the cap because that's that's like lines in here blanket that my see I see for me, listen what I'm saying, Like, I don't. I'm not offended. I like No, I like it what I like it because it's it's a different lane, and I feel like I feel I feel like I feel like people would gravitate towards that lane more than a lot of other lanes because a lot of guys

are trying to assimilate. They're trying to they're trying to cater to all these different audiences and ship and I just feel like, when you get in your lane and just do your thing, if you're talented, people gonna funk with you. These other people you ain't gotta cross over, they're gonna cross over to you that I uh, I labeled. I'm like just like labeled labeling anything. So it's more like it's more like when you say hooking me, it's

it's just it's just a comedian. So that because you know when you do clubs and not that say well this is an urban night, and we know what urban means something, so basically basically important to basically I'm working with your money, right, I got it? Okay, let me die that thing ain't back. Let me die that thing back right now. You shouldn't get it broke. Now, you got it right right right? You want the wing to spreads and want you this guy you get you know what? Okay,

I got you. I re can I stand corrected, bro because I want you to get your money because you're tying to the cab. Imaging is important, but like like and and and coming across as a good uh comic is good imaging. I do believe I think you think it's a track at a joint. Put it in your pocket, let your close smell like when you walk into the spot man and do your thing. No man, I'll be doing them. Don't give that ship big. I just just say, smoking said saying, he said, let the wee close. Smell

like you're trying to get this man arrested. Man, I always know I'm one wherever I go. Well, we'll commit. Yeah you can, you can? You can? What is that why you got to get this man arrested? Yeah, I don't around, no, I gotta, I gotta always no. I'm I'm, I'm a grown I've been doing comedy twenty three, twenty six years April year started up comes. Yeah, so I'm a I'm a young young, young older dude. So I'm

a tweener like I ain't ain't uh Instagram world. I didn't start there, uh and ain't old old old school started on my space. My space was out just y yeah yeah, I just had started started. Um, I just yeah. So it's a different, it's different, right, So so my audience has grown with so it's just uh and I don't get it. This is just it's more sports. I'm I'm, I've been I've been sported cool all my life. It's just sporty cool. And when I gonna stay at night,

I got grown people coming. So I just thrown nice so uh, list suit and I go to work but I put I put the suit on, and I this is podcast, uh, and I wanted to get a breath of clubs from loves. You know what I've seen riding the suit never never suit out. You see, you ain't seen what I do with it. So you gotta come out to night and you will see the suit man he put on the goddamn suit. I'm gonna be pissed.

You ain't gonna be it's still gonna be. You're gonna be like, oh, he's still because they're gonna be the Jay's on, which it's gonna be real clean. You would say, oh, he's real clean. Yeah, No, I'm not just gonna I gotta go to work. You said I should just show up with the breath club like that, like that imaging man, imaging. Yeah, if you walk out there with that suit, you don't look like Steve Harvey. You don't know. It's not still hard, it's not still You're gonna have a town. No, you

don't have a god. You know you're gonna down on what I feel. I don't always for the time, which is it's out out my comedy and the whole show. You want to look. Richard Prowd was Richard Proud woll suit and murple suits. Uh, yes, that is a suit. It was just a leather suit tight parents and it was sup. It was it was it's outfit. It was the outfit. Yeah. So it's a super different outfit. So you finish. Yeah. But now, man, it's just I'm organic with it. So it's now when I'm working out, this

is my this is my work. It's like, but when I go to work, I'm going to work. Now, if I'm in the gym shooting jump, I'm in, I'm shooting jump. But when I go to work, I go. I go because I know the people paid to seal the show. You you picked me for your entertainment, and I appreciate that. So I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you the show. And Steve told me, he said, now you didn't show business. You got the show, but you gotta get your business together.

God damn, you didn't tell you to throw black people under the bus, sell out and do nothing and say I ain't I didn't meet that one. I didn't meet you tell you anything. In fact, got the old stories. Everybody got the old story that I have learned about people, people who deal with different people. You you have a different story about a guy a girl you deal with than I would, because it's all people deal with people differently. And so I didn't meet that guy, but I know

I've heard about different guys and different girls. So I try to go on what you said to me. So he didn't tell you we're black. I mean we were gonna we're black out here. We can't be offending people. Yeah, gotta take that money. He came back from that though, he came back he yeah, so is everybody. Everybody has a different uh things that they have to endure in this business. That's what I've learned. Everybody had a little different obstacles, different things like oh man, shit, God deal

with that. So I like Steve see Harvey has uh he represents uh success in his lane. So everybody I don't. I'm not gonna emulate with me because I know that's not gonna be my route, cub. But what growing up grow that big on trying to make you look older? Man, you're trying to look you're trying to look younger. You still you still you still look like that. I haven't had you still like you and your twinnies man, and that's that's that's the gift that I work out. I

run mad thirns, I work at those things. So I get up every morning at three third in the morning, and so really, yeah, I don't have nobody. I just know from the military family and my brother was in the Navy, and it's just it's just been, Uh, I always I always knew, you gotta you gotta get up for the sun. Get up, you gotta beat the sun. You gotta beat the sun. We gotta what you do? You just gotta get up. And then what time do you normally go to bed? Uh? When I'm working at twelve?

Damn old man, Wait a minute, you go to bed at twelve of one and get up at three. Yeah, so I'm gonna get me a napping that somewhere though, if I gotta get me a naping ever, But yeah, but I know I get up at five and I'm in the bed by nine thirty. Well that's not bad. That's eight hours. But I can do. I can do four to six and feel feel fine. So it's just

been sometimes the lama is always set the three thirty. Now, sometimes I might if I had long out of my head and say I'm gonna need thirty momentute the lam don't make your heart jump of it. Time I beat the lum up, they ain't Now I gotta pee in them on it, Okay, I I gotta go get him a pe on. So it's sometimes I beat the lama up. But I like to get out voted, vote the sun, get get up in uh wake up with the sprinkling system. I like to say, where am I going to jail

for running? Ship that for running? But yeah, I train or do a little about the strainer. So I I believe because we gotta take care of this on thing we got to live in. We gotta take care of this that. Yeah, some more time we we we get mad, frank, and we're like, I don't feel good, So why why you feel good? But you gotta do You gotta do things to feel good. And I learned that because I

come from the side where we are from. Well, we eat to feel good, but actually eat that depending on what we eat, and that ain't always gonna make a feel good. That's gonna make her feel worse. And then we get slugged, and then we get tired, then we get sick. Then it is sick. It's the food Drug Administration. That should get you full drugs in the food sugar. So once you want you to realize that, like I can go eat, but I know there's got to be in moderation. That can't be my spot all the time.

But then I'm gonna be like, I ain't bad all that butter that agreed that she that fried, They're gonna they're gonna lame it down. So I can't have the energy that I'm gonna need to coom to what that. So it's disciplines. So I just look at everything. It's it's disciplines. And once you can discipline yourself, therefore you can just know other and others say, oh, okay, that's what that's what I should be doing. Yeah you ever go back? Yeah, I do. Like when you go back,

how do they treat you? Your family? Especially now my family is uh always supported, they've been Uh. I do a thing in the summer that runs in my family out the women and my family got Huntington disease, which is a new irotic uh thing and messing with your brain and your motor skille. Mama Sosie. So I do a little thing in the summer called main Street live

what we get the talent from the community. They send me tapes of them themselves and UH, I go through tapes and UH come hosted in the summer and UH and I see sing us and dancings and walkers and so it's kind of like America. It's like a showcase. It's a showcase. They can win uhars, pint on whatever. The thing over And we had like ten people come out and just do their thing and people people come out support. You have the vendors and everything. So so

I just been doing that three years. We didn't do it last Yeah, so it's always the community is UH has been supported that. They gave me the key to the city. So yeah. So so but like I said, my family, you just gotta you just got uh people finding what they really want to do. So me doing what I do allows other people say, oh you know what I can draw, I can do I can do the thing too, So so UH, I know each one

to teach one. So I'm I'm cool. Yeah. This is usually a question that I would ask towards the front of the interview, but I want to know how did you get started in comedy? Like what was that thing that made you say, man, this is what I want to do. Deaf comedy jam high school. I used to uh, yeah, see that good. I was late night eating Posta after the show every night at that same club. Right there.

I was talking about the Supergo. Now I see the stuff, but I always eat a lot of positive but uh uh no, I started the The trigger was up death Cham when I seen comedians that looked like me from Well and Franz Kryt Tug and Monty Lawns and Burning mag and all. And I always knew I uh like, I used to write a little different funny and stuff down and and uh, I didn't know what that was. And I say funny stuff and they were like, well, you need be a comedian. It was a comedian, I don't.

I knew Bill cott Ridge proud of that. But I know the outlet to and I remember I go back to me date myself a little bit, to the Yellow Pages, and they used to throw the Yellow Pages on your poech and we had the Yellow Pages. And I went through the Yellow Pages and I've seen Uptown Comedy Club in Buckhead in Atlanta, and uh, I went uh and signed up for open mic and uh that was the earthquake was hosted, and that was that was starting other

than ninety five. But before you did that, well, there are people in the neighborhood or in your house saying, man, you should be in comedy. You're like a comedian, but they didn't know. They didn't know really what that was either. But you do in the neighborhood or at home, cracking jokes all the time and ranking on people. I was. I always had a a smart mouth. Smart mouth, but really that just means you're you're conscious. But I didn't know what it was. So smart, that boy smart. My

mom was that smart. That smart mouth, So really you have it because I always had something to say. You're gonna say something right a wrong, in different I'm gonna say something. So I didn't know what the outlet was. So once I started doing uh research, I said, oh, that's that's what I wanted. Comedy, that's what it is. Because how old are you at this age? Eighteen? I was eighteen the first, the first, the first when I first went to the to the club, I was eighteen.

But they didn't they didn't uh the first time when they didn't let me, they didn't let me go up because I was uh too young to be in the club and they say they elude, they lookal license. Then I went back and then I signed up and got on stage. So I've been dabbling with comedist since I was a TV but you started watching def jam comedy. That's that's what really was, Yeah, because because I had never seen audiences uh hitting each other just to laugh a lot like that is a good time? How do

you have that good of a time? So and I've seen Cat Dreyl like me talk like me uh as you say sat swag Like okay, that's that's what it is. And then so how do you get into that? So that was that was the spark. But I always watch uh comedy as I watched Robin william He on Her He on the Mount, Robin Williams. I watch uh Different Difference showtime at Apolo. So I was always watching comedy,

but I didn't know what that was. And then once I found uptown, went to the club out like I'm a comedian, That's what that's what I want to do. And I told my mom and they're like, oh okay. So the first night, did you have any supporter? You just went up there said let me see what No. I didn't even tell nobody for uh to come because I didn't want nobody to come mess up the dream. So private sick money and I ain't tell. I was just going through my thing. The first time you got

on that stage, you did what five minutes? Okay? You did five okay? So what was the audience reaction? That third time? Was decent? It was it was it was, all right, I've dropped a glass. That's why you try to drink on stage because I thought that was the commedian thing to do, so, you know, having the class trying to do the commedian things to make. But I learned, no, you can't have that. I dropped the glass and then they had to come clean up a little bit. And

then but I got back to it. It was it was cool the first time, so I've never I never not had a good time on stage one and then went a full boot. It was that yeah, And it was that state in North Carolina, the kind of shows could be here to miss. They you don't never know. So they booed you not didn't boom a full boy bush. That was they were mad. That's old. It was more oo because I was talking about the school, and they didn't appreciate I was talking about the school. Ye anybody

whether that some mixed with that, some laughters. Yeah, that was. And then it was going on, that's not a full both yea, it's not. It's like yeah, so it went no, it went over. No, that's not a full book. Yeah. I ain't never had no Cascaday down, get your never that, never that because I know how to. But I've had some rowdy since way where you're like, okay, when I deal with that and then we'll get back to this. I always know what you're saying about the school and

what school was. No, I said with state in North Carolina, but been years and years ago, and it was just at the construction. I said, y'all, y'all, y'all the construction not a full university yet. So yeah, yeah, they did appreciate, yeah, lot, but they probably not got all that rectified and situated. Probably, I don't know, we don't know. I hope the check came, man. So yeah, but yeah, the building fund, that's all we always done. Everybody deal with the building fund. Yeah. Yeah.

I didn't feel about the building fund that church, oh man, the beauty fund that church. I grew up in the country church and and so you know we had to. But we built the kitchen. That's what that was. That they got a building fund of building. Kid, yeah we got but that's nice, it's nice and that. But when I was in, you get that, you got the kitchen, And how long did it take you out to building? I don't know how long it took you at that new kitchen, but yeah, it took a while. It took

a w to get that. Kid. What do you do with the kitchen in church? Well, you know, gonna eat? Yeah they church. Yeah, church is all about the eats. Yeah, when the when the Sunday, the places with their place set them unless you doing it being up fund rady. But now that's just we're gonna be eating. Man, Willie will Willie sque is the quarter until the eagle flowers say, bro man, you know, I mean you got people that want to eat, you gotten the service? Were these days

more like how did you how did you two? How did the how did the whole get those boys all come together as a group very carefully, We didn't even we didn't even come together. I know, you got your so low so low. We didn't never come together as we never came together. We just was right and we wrapped and he wrapped and we leave. But so never no, we have never been together ever, not even right now.

So I have been so low. Dude, when you leave out this motherfucker, we're going out separate ways, true story, m M So it's a partnership. No, no what you call We're just here. We're that here, he's that here. No ship. I can't make this up, bro, Bro, Bro, rod Man, this is about you. Manly had our time. But I will tell you this. One time we got booed in New York. Yes, at the New Music Seminary bout some rappers and nah, bro, that was not just rappers.

That was everybody. Every motherfuckingbody wasn't in there like five people and that wasn't what are you talking about in New York? Hell not. The place was packed, man. What you're talking about man? This dude? Yeah, your memories going, brother? Yeah? Man,

that ship was packed, bro um ship. It's probably about a hundred damn reporters and stuff up in the front potomeraphers and reporters and mocker was booing but it was it was too Everybody was boring except these two black chicks that was all the way up in the front, and we found out later that they were from Houston. They knew every single song and it was up in

the front, nice liking ladies. Still it was just going off MANI nice, but they were going off man and uh, but everybody else was boring because they didn't like we went there. They didn't like us, cousin. Yeah, and then now everybody, everybody, everybody out there playing, they're doing the same ship we did now and then about time, about time, So don't take that personal. When the motherfucker boo you

who whoever? And I'm never I'm never, never, never gonna stop me from doing what So I didn't I didn't never care what really happened alone where I guess gotta keep going, so you get going, keep going. So it went, it went, but it went, it went on, boot went on Boom. I'm a yeah, it went on boot man. You know it was it was, it was, it was a whoa yeah. Always I always had a preacher vibe. I set the people down. I can set the people down.

I wouldn't been able to sell the people down. Little Roy come on now, like like you guys have been sitting there, so I would be. They said, yeah, So it's it's it's and we all got something. But we sometimes we get out and we get a little crazy, little routed and some people ain't been out like we were just talking. Uh when I flew here, we got a lot of new flies in the hall. People. Well you got people now who wasn't flying but flow. They

probably was on the megabus. But now they have got some more funds in their pocket and now they are on the planes, and they got learned the plane etiquette. So playing you know a lot of fights going on plane now, a lot of fights going on. And they don't even they don't serve alcohol in the coach now it's too routed back down a serious Yeah, yeah, I know one too. I think two airlines stopped selling uh alcoholic deavages because of the fights. Yeah yeah, well, I said,

new travelers. So it's yeah, like I said him do last night. And they in the coach, you know, in the coach, you gotta you gotta wait, you got way. They're a back coming, but they came from the back. We got we gotta get the hill off the plane. Excuse me to the guy to the friend I said, what the what the hell? That what you do? Right? Now? You got what your turn? But him and later. But that's new flyers. So we we're dealing with new normals,

new knew everything. So that that's my job to try to figure out uh and be able to articulate what it didn't new society? What? What was this corona? What was all this is? And I know you you what what's you what's your take on that because you at the first hand experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm blessing see,

but some people don't. Don't don't believe that you got people on this side shots and people do no shots, So that that whole thing if I cannot get that ship over again in life, I take a shot of year. Want to take that? Yeah, but you take a shot a day. Yeah. If I answer two shots today, all shots today, you have to keep it that. Yeah, so's your that's your health. So but you have people who are convinced that it's gonna and my mama and them, and because they come from mama and them, Willie, you

heard it, Yeah, they don't. They ain't get no shot. I ain't. I ain't fool with all that. But I had to do St. Louis Uh driver Abraham Uber driver U Joe mid from the airport to the show from Africa to Senegal. And he said, you have to get the vaccine. I said, why had He said, you have to get the vaccine because it's good for you. It's like a little soldiers your body and anything. Yeah, said said you don't want to be without your soldiers in your body, And I said, okay. Again he said, get

the fighter. That's the best one to get it. Yeah, I got it. Well didn't you didn't get it? I feel great. How did you feel immediately after it happened, Well you get Yeah, you get getting Look but I got him in both bones, so I didn't go back and get it in the same home I Gotn't you do them and do that one? But nothing nothing, uh residual because I'm I'm ho listed guy. Anyway, I believe in you. Holistic, you wouldn't have gotten the show. No, no, no, I got the shot called Abraham, told him get a

shot in the name Abraham. So yeah, I was getting the shot to Abraham. Came two times. I said, ain't number got right there? So I got go and get a shot because I'm out in these I'm out in the people people be and I believe I don't want people talking clothes no more. I believe that should have been in a thing. Ask and six. I like the mask, man, I like mask. I think it's a mask. Mandate is great for me. I think that's great because when you

look at the mask thing. Uh, this was like the first this this flu season was the first time that you could actually go to a drug store and see them fully stopped. All of the medicines, the cold remedies and stuff was fully stocked, which tells you that wasn't a whole lot of people that was having codes and experiencing flu symptoms. But I always say the corona replaced the flu. Dr Willie, leave it up to Dr Willie. I'm done, man, I'm finished. The doctor. I said, the

flu wasn't selling. I'm they used to, so they had to come up with a new thing. And then the Corona is the new thing. That ain't know, that ship as old as hell, you say, I know, I know, but they went just know when when when when cousin over? Yeah? Yeah they yeah, And then then you got you got enough screening. Then they saying that. But it's about just putting your mask back on. They know society is open, but they want you to. But tex in Florida, you know,

all the Republican states. Yeah, y'all don't you don't have a mask? Man? Yeah, yeah, man, yeah, I've been so like no so, but it's it's just that's a that's a that's a that's a it's just talk about nothing but the money. It's your body. But that they're gonna keep trying to pump this and they ain't got their number yet of how many people they need to get

this shot. So that's why it's still it's still sales and capitalism and we need the many people to get this shot for we can move on to the neck thing. So it's still it's still that. That's why they all Yeah, and it's fair, you know America, we were self fair. Yeah. What's your next move? Man? Like as far us like,

I know you can't. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not. I'm not saying just like telling your next move is for something that's not already in progress, like what what's happening that's already develop development that they can't stop stopped me and me really at the end of the day if I if I get on my hoison, I think I wrapped my hord with That's all I got, right, So that's that's also uh special, and that's been the whole that's you know, that's what my special. I have not.

You don't have a Netflix No I do not. Oh fuck say m M, I saw a Netflix special? I never I never never had so so so what's so? So? What's that that you got Netflix? You got HBO, you gotta show time. I'm talking about in terms of specials. Somebody who might want to take that special? You've got Comedy Central? Is that still a I mean right now, William just I'm in I'm in the phase that you can you can do it. You can I can do

a special and then uh I can go shop it. Yeah, because because I tried to do uh way no what wait, we went to people and can you do that? Who? They can't see it. Sometimes you have to build this so they can come right. So I say, let me, let me, let me show you what I'm trying to do. Because people will take the idea, but there's something they don't want you a part of that. D So I get well, I have an independent artist mentality of just developing it out and then because because I can't, I

can't say you all the time on me? Will you see we see that's a yeah. See that's a that right. There is the Tonight That is Sammy David Jr. That's the Tonight show. See that. Yeah you have to Tonight look like Sammy David. Yeah, let me see, yeah Sammy David. Yeah, the Candon Man can canon who can make the Sun Man? Yeah? Right yeah, but I thought that was I think Netflix. No, that's that's a that's a yeah. So I got a

lot of the old was out there. Uh but I want to I want to give my fans a nice package. Uh our boom there you go, and just just a you know, the podcast, different stuff and just been U motad dimensional. How can people find you? How can I find abrad mad Comedy on the social media? My website round Comedy dot com And uh yeah, they kicked me all Facebook. So I don't have that anymo. I don't know what happened with that, but I've been off that I got, Yeah, I got kicked out with it. They

kicked me the Facebook jail. No, I never got Facebook. I've been in Instagram jail, never just ten. Why didn't you go on Instagram jail for uh? They said, uh, no, I use uh you know during the election season. I actually only think I do on social media motivation, promotion and post my comedy. So I said, I said the word election, come check me out post election, and uh,

election is one of the community standard words. They said, uh, that I cannot use and I went against community standards and uh also they can't have Uh they don't know if I'm me. Also, I said, they don't know if I'm me. That ship don't even sound right? What did you don't do nothing? Faith? They got the blue check. I got you the ch blue check on faibor yeah, I got a blue check. I ain't got the blue check on instage. I'm not because I'm not. I'm a

live cat. You know you're not gonna get my essence on here is ain't you know? Always transferable? But if you live, that's what you say it transferable? Do you know what they were? Go ahead? Yeah, something you know you can lose something in in in transition, trans transferableness like like the lands. I'm done, will I'm gonna before you go out? I got one more questions I got one more, I said for purposness. Transfer yea, you know I do a thing that that's the word too. That's

the word transferable when things are exchanged transferable. I done right. Yes. When it's time to go and you ain't got no mo, how would you like to be remembered? Uh? Wow, man, um, I would like to be wow wow. I don't even know. Uh wow, what is it? What is Why would you like to be remembered? Uh? Funny? Giving? Loving? Uh cool? Uh? Are we done? Yeah? I don't loving and cool? Having cool? Funny giving? Giving? You don't even sound right, man, don't

give me what's wrong with that? Loving and giving? When you let love what you do, you gotta you gotta love what you give something. I'm trying to figure out what it is, man like just like that there, let me look at it. You know that that's you know what. That's not the first time you had a problem with that word loving? And yeah, I got children, all of them loving and loving, but love it. But my son boy, and you are giving to your and you I'm feeling

Chris ship. I gain't plenty and you didn't want to give it that time, But I got to go do that again. So you know, you know Chris guy, right, he's talking about his son. Yeah, yeah, he's not gonna get Chris ship, but Chris is going to give him a kidney. Look at that giving. We passed the giving on him. He's giving. That's it. That's your see though, that's my dog right. So he had learned that that from you. So yeah, those thing and just I'm here

for whatever contribution I can make. Then I'm cool that. But I ain't thought about my postpartum some yet. What is postpartum some bro? Dad? Okay, go ahead, I don't know what that's. That's not my look. That's not the look. I'm just looking, you know, because you're in the room and you want me to leave. No, I'm just saying no, I like you to stay. I'm chilling in. I like you to save time. Yeah, but no, it's so yeah transference saying hold on transfer just rolled his eyes at me. Man,

Yeah the funk you just done that? Yeah but that's the same man. Yeah, you ask deep quurstions with it. That's what I want to say. It's deep, qurses. Yeah, that's very deep. Well I think you sir, Yeah, that's very yeah. Yeah. Yeah, So I'm yeah, I'm on pond of that a little bit more, and then have all the answers ever deadly, I'm ever, Then is time I don't want to be loving and giving and giving? Yeah, loving and giving to your children. I'm thinking about my children.

What I'm fine. You can love and give. You you can love and give to your children. I thought you were just talking about a random motherfucker love and you want to be remember that loving and giving to your random mother. It's always I'm always family first, your family. Yeah, those are the people who don't really really you can impact. Whats wrong with get being loving and giving to us? You don't know you like a home of guy, welcome to you. That's not gonna happen. What you mean, guy

won't walk up to you? I'm not mean, what would you do? I'm not gonna do. You got a homeless person to repeent it. No, man, I'm just saying, I'm not man, bro, it's too much ship going. I can't let that one down. Really, okay, I can't let that one down. Yeah, that ship in my truck and I'll be riding off with that ship in my truck. Yeah. About the more they got him at every light. I said, y'all got to skip a light. Yeah, that's ship. That means y'all need to work. You're not here every I'm

not gonna take a good, good, good family story. Man. So for the past couple of days, my grandson had been coming over, right, and I hadn't seen him in in a couple of months. Man, And he's six years old. Okay, all right, So I'm I'm I'm on the machine getting my dialysis treatment, and you know, like something caught my eye at the corner of you. I'm like, who, then, is this man in my house? I look over there and I've seen him right, and he is as wide

as the fucking doorframe, and and and and and and tall. Right, So I'm like, damn, like, how are you? Man? And he says, I'm six and I'm looking at him, and it just killed me, Willie. I had just had to go put him on the scale just to see how much you weighed, right, one hundred and thirty nine fucking pounds, six years old, tall man? That tall? Really not tall enough to be a hundred thirty nine pounds. But I'm saying that to say this man, like, like you're talking

about family talking about kids and grandkids. I'm getting I'm seeing the I'm seeing the offsprings of my children now and it's really starting to sit in like like at first I was faced, but now Papa like ship has changed overnight. And for him to be a hundred and thirty nine pounds, you gotta pin on that and me to be a hundred and seventy five pounds something wrong with this picture. It ain't nothing wrong with him. I'm just saying, literally, get catching up. Well, no, hundred yeah,

but that goes back to hell too. We we we we see, we see big babies, but you know, we we were sometimes like, hey, that's that's that's hunt there. Now, that's a lot of six and you're not like a hundred pounds down he ground here like a hunting thirty nine pounds up here. But I get that generational you you you, I'm G daddy. I'm G daddy now. So I'm just I never never gonna do papa, You're not. I go always granddaddy. When I get granddaddy age, I feel.

But my son's daughter, man, like, she's so fucking rude with it though, you know I could be sitting there with all my friends next to a young lady or some ship and then Cristal FaceTime my phone Willie and then I'll be like, she'd be like, hey, Papa in front of everybody. But that's that's They always want to push you out. You got to go into the adult adult lane because it's their time. Kids always like, it's my time. If you had your time, let me have

my shine. So you always your legacy. You're not you created the now they got to eat the name. That's what that was. That was, Yeah, you gotta have you gotta that's that's the rock. So that's always always I know the legacy. I'm playing seeds for the for the people to come back. Yeah, I'm loving and giving you should to your family when I'm thinking, thank you for coming on the show man, because look, man, we just we gotta breakthrough. Brad is capable of being loving and giving.

That's beautiful man to your family, not to homeless people. Yeah, I'm coming from the family because that's who spending more time and that's who I'm gonna have the most impact on. Is the people who you raising. Are not raised them, then who you're gonna because they're looking at you more than anything ladies and gentlemen, rod Man oh Man Time the Motoks. This episode was produced by Aching and brought to you by The Black Effect Podcast Network and I Heart Radio