The Mia X Episode

then blame it on us. Don't get it twisted on code and me dancing for no buttament biscuits. It's Willie d y'all scarf faces in the building. Collectively we are the GHET old boys. Reloaded, Reloaded with another episode of information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world. In the studio, the first lady of note limit Mia X, ma'am, hold up, how me are still looking good? I'm talking about looking good good? How do you do? How do you do it? Mia? Your mama

looked like that she did, she really did. My grandmother did? Okay, right, Yeah, got them good genes Huh I think so I hope so yeah man so man, I mean how how but how is your health? Speaking of good genes, how is your health? You know? I am taking one day at a time and if the Lord says the same, I will be cancer free five years March twenty third. So but um, you know, after you're ill, it seems like the body really fights hard to feel itself and you

have other complications. You know, you have phantom pains, um. So I had. I had to get surgery, a complete hysterect me. Sometimes my stomach feels like everything is still there. Yeah. Uh. And I have I have like uh it's like pocket mask there benige, but they hurt my legs sometimes and make me feel like I'm walking with leg weights. Uh. And I still like battle fatigue. So I deal with a lot of things that sometimes your doctor tells you it's not there, it's in your mind, but your body

tells you something else. And so um, I'm not complaining, but I will say for anyone that has ever battle cancer or had any type of serious illness, you understand what I'm saying about the fansom pain and how a body uh takes time to make you feel whole again. It's steadily working, trying to restore itself and deal with the things that you've lost. My kidney transplant exactly is that those effects are similar because I wake up feeling pain right where the kidney is, like oh ship, uh

yeah exactly. And and and when your body fighting off I bought off this kidney. So my kidney went into rejection, you know, early and early and uh after the transplant, like a week later when and um, I mean it's a natural thing that your body gonna fight off any uh foreign objects are foreign whatever in your body. So that's what it did. It was like that you must have been thrown at the wrong gang side my body like this, you know what, I'm two niggas back there,

but you you move exactly. They didn't knocked it out and I had to go back in the hospital again. I never really talked much about it, but yeah, I had a I had a young rejection in the early stage after the transplant. Mea, how do you keep it together? You know, you do a lot of things. You still, I know you did your cook book back into the team, right, yes, And how's that going? It's going really well? Um was the best seller two years straight at Essence Fest because

that's where I launched it. Sell most of my stuff online. Um, but it's still doing really well. And now I have a season in and let me see it's all good and I'm working on Yeah, it's a low sodium, a purpose ses and then even doper it on my cereal. Yeah yes, and look at me. Yeah you know. Sylvia inspired me. Sylvia's of Harlem inspired me. And I remember being a kid in the grocery store and seeing all of the labels and then I saw this black woman and she had hot sauce and greens and things, and

I was like, I really want to be her. Food has been a passion for me. I've been in the kitchen with my grandmother since seventy five. So yeah, why did my label like that? This is dope? This is dope. You know a lot of food success and failure comes down to packaging. What that label looks like and this looks like money? Thank you, beautiful beautiful. So I notice is Brad's um sample. But I'll take this and you've read another one. Um, because Brad had his a long

time ago. He didn't tell me about the season. I mean, he was an expert in the culinary arts department, Williams, he's an expert in the thug depart Yeah, you can cook, we like for real, like really really the food and stuff online, I'd be like, man, that looks good. I want to eat some of my meals cooking. You gotta come to New Orleans. I gotta come to Did you cook Houston? No, I didn't get a chance this time because we were pressed for time with the concert. So

but usually when I'm in Houston, I cook right. And the concert concert was so fun, so fun. Got to meet y'all big in the market at least one. It's one of them most definitely. I feel in love every time I'm in Houston, like every time, and that's been since before No Limit. He was and showed me love when I put my first record out thirty years ago. So you know, I don't look thirty years old. Girl, you just said I looked like I didn't say that. I didn't say that. I said you look like Grandma

on that package. But I am a nigga grandmore. That's the So it's right in line with secret Willy. So me and me get on the phone, bro and we talked and cracked the funk up all day long. Bro. She is the funniest person I know. For real, she is super funny. How do you keep it in? Because I've never seen this, this funny side, because it comes out at times, and it's because I'm not trying to be people just laughing. Sometimes I went the way that wasn't supposed to be funny, but it just comes out.

My grandmother was like that. You know, she was the inspiration behind the cookbook. You see all of those quotes, that's the way she spoke. And I just think I have that from her. Yeah, yeah, real from the Seventh War. Oh, that's right, from the Seventh War. How was it growing up in the Seventh War? Did you grow up with your grandmother? Yes? I did grow up with my grandmother. Um. I was supposed to be born in Dallas. Okay, Uh,

my dad was from Dallas. What he did when my mom was six months pregnant he got another girl pregnant. Oh here, so, um, I have a sister, my Irish twin. She she's six months younger than me. But my grandmother came to Dallas and snatched my mama up, made a come back to New Orleans. She was in college in Dallas. You're gonna finish school in New Orleans. You're coming home.

So I was born in New Orleans, brought home from the hospital to my grandmother and grandfather of this home because they brought my mom back home, and I grew up with my grandmother. I grew up with my grandmother. She was just a strong woman, and she wanted to make sure that my mom still finished school and did the things that she aspired to do as well as men her broken heart, you know. And so yeah, I was with my grandmother, and the Seventh Ward was beautiful.

Seventh Ward was a place of community. We all looked out for each other. We shared everything, you know, food. Sometimes people was pulled and things happened, lose their lights were sharing that orange and statue cold. So you know, like sometimes when when the person lights get cut off, your neighbor everybody had these thick orange extension cards. You could put it through your window and well or orange orange. I love the color orange and I love to eat oranges.

That's perfect, Okay, go ahead, But you know they would take the extension cord and you stick it from your window to your neighbor window and they can plug it in and use like some of your lights. They did that kind of stuff. In the seventh Ward they share. Yeah, so you know that sense of community and the seventh Ward we definitely had a strong sense of community. You know,

we really the village was intact what happened. So I'm gonna say like, um, yeah, like around eighty three, I began to see the shift, and not just my community but just all around nine wall sixth wall for wall fifth wards thoughts seeing the change. Um, and it was crack. Uh. A lot of my friends parents got on crack, and crack killed a lot of the sense of responsibility for

our adults. So yeah, because you know, Craig became the central thing, like I'm not gonna wash my babies, I'm not gonna feed my babies, I'm not gonna pay my bills because I want to rock and yeah, all of those things. Yes, that happened, and I saw it around uh eighty three, and then it got aggressively worse. And then uh, young people including myself, you know, we we were Facebook positions like to be in positions like if you can't beat them, join them, and so there you know,

when we was thirteen seeing it happened. By the time we was fifteen sixteen, a lot of became the hustlers, the dealers, and it just kept going and going and going. But many kids were faced with two parents in the house that were on crack and they didn't have anything, and so they jumped off the porch and jumped into the game. And from there the feelings that we have for each other began to change. We we stopped, we

stopped caring. You know, once upon a time, nobody would sell nobody, mama, nothing that would poison their spirits, their bodies and minds. But then it got to a point where, um, everybody was just trying to get by, and I don't think we realized someone else, Yeah, what we want to give it to us. And that's what started happening. That the man didn't affect any anybody in your immediate family, Yeah, because um, so like one of my cousins came told

my mom my dad was always hard working. And one of my cousins told my mom, um, this is what's going on with your husband. Because certain things started to slip with us, you know. And then my daddy said that he had crunched up the rock in his weed yeah, the reason to say geeks. But um, he had lost his job. And at that point I went to my cousin. I had four hundred dollars and I said, um, well, I needed you to teach me howt the hustle because

I gotta help my mama. Mm hmm. And one of my neighbors, she was like seventeen years older than me. She used to take me in the bar room when I was young, but she never did anything wrong. You know. I used to like to drink beer and I was a barroom baby. She went told my mama because she had a habit. She told Mom, she said, listen, you gotta get on Mia. Mia needs to do her music. And Mia sold me some drugs. So when I hit the dough, my mama like flashed out because that was

never her. You know. My mom was like, what's this. I hear you selling somebody something, you know, and that's not for you. That's not who we are. You can't poison our people. You know. My mom was was really into us as a people, the community, and she was so mad with me, and I was so hurt that I had disappointed her because of the way we were raised. And then my dad was so messed up that my mama told him this is what's going on with her. I saw him change. My dad was a type of dude.

If something hit him m hard enough, he just didn't do it. One time, you're smoking cigarettes and he set the mattress on fire, he quit. So when he saw that I was gonna jump into this game after all of the value that they had poured in me, he was like, nah, I missed this whole thing up. And then he got back on track. But for a lot of my friends, you know, we just kind of kept on in this game, in this game, in this trap

that was placed in our community. When you say your dad got back on track, he got off track when he got into the drug game. Well, he got off track when he started smoking geeks because he yeah, he wasn't doing what he was supposed to. As far as the family, you know it down, He shut it down immediately because he didn't want me to be in the game. He knew what that led to, is your No. My dad died five months after my mom. I really did. I had some really really good people. They were honest

about everything they did. You know, my mom, my dad, my grandmother, my grandfather. They never cut any corners with me, so we didn't live in a fantasy world. Whatever whatever happened, whatever went down, they brought it to us. They explained it to us. The lines of communication was always open, and that was for good and bad stuff. They speak more about your father, you know, we talked about so no so um, my biological father died when I was six years old, and and yes I have memory of

him as a provider because he was in California. Actually, he became a concert promoter, uh in the late sixties, and he he promoted shows Gladys Night like everybody, and then he jumped into the rock side, and so he began promoting concerts like for Chicago Fleetwood mag He lived in California. Yeah, he really was. But he ran with the rock stars and party like a rock star. And his mom actually, uh, she lied and told me that he died from a brain aneurysm. But it wasn't until

right before my mom died. She connected me and my sister, my sister Mick, and um, Mick told me that our daddy died of a heroin overdose. M All my life, I would think when I was a little girl and catch headaches, like I don't want to have an aneurysm thinking about my dad. So when I sat down with my sister, I'm like, so do you get headaches? And she was like, not really, And I was like, because I do, and I hope I don't get an annual is I'm like dad? And she said, well, Daddy didn't

have an aneurysm. Daddy died of a hair on overdose. So then I go back to my mama and I say, Mama, Grandma Ta told me daddy had an aneurysm. You let her tell me that. But Mickey say he died from her hair on overdose. Then my mom broke the whole story down to me because I had no clue that me and Mickey was even the same age. My Grandmo T told me when I was uh six, that Mickey

was three, but Mickey was six right with me. So, um, my mom met who I called my daddy because this man when she met him, he didn't have any kids, and then they had my sister, dr Ashley. But from day one, he really really loved me as his own and and and treated me like I was a part of what him and my mother was building. He was a good dude. He was a real, real, real good dude, and he dedicated his life to us. So you and Mickey have the same biological dad dad, Me and doctor

Ashley have the same mom. Okay, but you the whole time you thought that you and Micky had the same mom and No. I always knew that I had a half sister. I just didn't know how many years older than her I was. And I didn't know much about her because they were just saying, oh, you know you have a sister because I was later in life. So in like about two weeks before my mom died, someone ranged my doorbell. My mom said, go open the door for your sister. So I was like, she got a key,

and someone was like, go open the door. But when I looked on I came. I saw these two people standing at the door, and I was like, that's not Ashley. When I opened the door, I saw my face. I was like, all my life and my family they would say me, and you don't look nothing like your mama. Who you look like? You know? So I saw my face and so she was like, Hi, I'm Mickey. I knew I had a sister named Mickey. So instantly that

connection was like on point. But I think before my mom died, she wanted me to know my sister and know my blood in Dallas, because I really didn't know them. So my mom actually put us together. And um, I mean me and Mickey we've been We've been tight ever since, and I'm grateful my mom. Did Dad, did your mom ever have any hangups about Mickey or with Mickey? I mean, I'm sure she had to hang up with your dad, but uh, because he stepped out right to have her right. Okay,

So did she ever resent Mickey? Because never matter is the fact. She was always telling me when I was a little girl, or you have a sister, because being the only child, Um, when my cousins would go home, I would be lonely and I would always wish I had a brother or sister to be in the house and play with me. And she would said, well, you have a sister, but she lives in Dallas. She never felt anyway from what I could see, towards Mickey or her mom, because that was a choice that my dad made,

you know. So uh, there was never any any animal city that I could see because she's the one that put us together. Me and Mick wouldn't even be the way we are now had my mom not found her reached out and said, hey, when you come to New Orleans, you need to see me. Yeah. She was a special, special special uh you know. And I'm not saying that because she's my mama, because she's going just as a human being. She was a one and m I found out a lot of things, like why we ended up

coming back to my grandmother's house. That was very devastating to my mom, what happened with my dad stepping out like that because he was really like her first boyfriend. And Um, I found out that her blood pressure was so high she had a nervous breakdown when she gave birth to me. She had to stay in the hospital for two weeks, and I came home with my grandparents. Um, they heard a lot of that from me. Until I

was grown. I never knew how it had affected her, you know, And it affected her to the point where I remember she used to always say, I don't want any more children. But then she met my daddy and they got married and they had my sister, you know, So yeah, it was rough for her. I can imagine, you know, how was it for you and died, And did it have any effect on your choice of men and how you viewed men in terms of fidelity? You know what affects me now because as a child, I

didn't really know much about it. You know, it was it was one of those secrets they kept from me until I grew up. But when I found out everything and I was able to process things, it made a lot of fence. Now as far as um men stepping out, I think I chose older men. Oh um, quite naturally

they would step out, but I wouldn't know. Um. And then I thought you were gonna say that quite naturally they probably got it behind them already, because most a lot of times women say they choose older men because they got all the horn behind him. Well, that wasn't the case for me because I was a young girl and guys were older, but they wasn't older in a sense where that maturity kicks in. They were still in

that playful stage, but they were older than me. Um. My grandmother used to say, well, you know, if you get them while creep and expect to lose them to a creeper. So it made me not want um the next girl's man. While she had her man. But at the same time, um, the experience that I found out my mom went through in processing that and then being a rap artist and traveling with guys I got a chance to see my grandma used to say, a man to bring his dick many places, but he can keep

his heart and on at one. So I started to process, like, Okay,

some guys are just frisky and they are playing you know. Yeah, they're frisky, and they'd be all over the place, and you have to find your comfort in your relationship because I've had guys step out, and sometimes that was deal breakers and sometimes it wasn't you know, Like for instance, when I was sick, I knew that physically I wasn't in a position to uh be with the man in a way that he you know, intimately, And so I had to process that if you're with someone, they might

step out during this battle, but it's gonna come down to how much they are there for me, because yeah, because it dick ship really ain't. That's not a big old thing with me more than that honesty and that communication. So, UM, I'm probably one of the girls that's a little different. Um. When we talk about the situation, if it's stepping out, and if it's some things I can understand and he

can understand, it's not necessarily a deal breakup. You know, my grandmother always tell me you gotta be clear on your hell yeah and your nose. So who was your grandmother name? Her name was viola big name, mama, dear birtha understand or something. Yeah. So I don't usually step in and tell people like how to run their relationship if your man is doing this or if your woman is doing that, but I do say you gotta be

clear on your hell yeah and your fun nose. You know you spoke about being the only woman I on tour with a bunch of guys. How was that just being around that whole No Limit family? You being the first lady of No Limit? You know, that was a great experience. Um, it was a blessing that I was around a lot of guys that love their mama's, love their sisters, loved the women and their families. They were

always protective and always respectful. And I gained brothers. Some of them I look at like sons, some of them might look at like nephews. But I gained a real centense of family, and still to this day, like when I first linked up with Pete was ninety four, So now we're in still to this day, those guys that are a part of that organization still treat me like families. Still have the utmost respect and coming together for the tour, you know a lot of us hadn't seen each other

in years, but we immediately click clacked immediately. You know, some of us are just gonna be that. Do you still communicate with Pete? You know when I see him on tour, But we really don't communicate the way we did in the nineties because I was a part of the label and I was there and um there to give him a lot of input and ideas to match his hustle so that we could make No Limit be what it was. But peas like California guys, been in

California a long time. I'm a New Orleans girl, and when I left the label, we didn't communicate a lot when I see him. You know how some people just think gonna be your family regardless, So when I see him, it's always family. But we don't communicate the way we used to when you were on No Limit and you had to go in that studio. You guys were, and y'all had to be the most prolific label in the history of labels. I mean the way y'all was putting those records out back to back to back to back.

It seems like every two weeks there was a new artist dropping on the memory and everybody with stars. Everybody was a stone, everybody, everybody was a star. So when you go in the studio, y'all were helping each other out with your projects, everybody jumping on everybody records and stuff like that. Did you did you ever feel any type of pressure or did you ever feel like you had anything to prove? You're gonna you're getting on these

records with all these guys. It wasn't so much that I felt like I had something to prove, but I definitely wanted to make a statement for the ladies. I wanted to make the women proud. Every time I picked up my pen, I wanted them to know that whatever the subject matter was, however the beat was, I was gonna ride it and I was gonna run it. So that's what it was for me. I wanted to give the ladies, especially heavy set women, because you know, I came in the game with two stomachs. You know, I'll

drink that too. But I'm just saying I came in the game and I wasn't really like the prototype for what what the industry was pushing out. So it was important for me to let people know big girls look good, smell good, we ride good, we live good, our hearts are pure, and stop just thinking because we don't fit a certain mold that we need to be looked over. And then, as far as talent, as in MC, I jumped in this game in eighty four, I wanted people

to know that I was an MC. That's more than anything, and that's still the way I feel to this day. You know, I want you to not just look, oh, mea X was from the South, because they do that to Southern artists all the time, you know, oh yeah, she's good for the South. I know. I wanted them to know that I was good. And if you put me up against anybody on any coast that you think was good, I'm gonna show you how good I am. That was my whole thing, my whole motivation, at no

limit um jumping on each other's projects. I mean, we did that to make sure that we could push the records out. A lot of people had deadlines. They wanted to make their deadlines. Me for Mama Drama, I had to write sixteen or the twenty records in ten days because I wanted to come out when I was supposed to come out, but we were shooting movies and you know, I kind of got behind track, and people was like, well, if you want to drive, you're gonna have to hurry

up and go finish your record. I jumped on that red eye and when finished my record, you know. Um, so we had our own studio in Louisiana, but then um we were in California going to a few studios. Yes, I lived in California. Um. I moved to California because P and then was still in the Bay and that's pretty much where the label was. So I left New Orleans and I went to California. California, you know I do. It was the best weather on your own, the biggest,

prettiest flowers. It's like the flowers, the lemons, the oranges. Everything just looked big. The grass looked green, was really nice, and you could be in the hood where some real road gangster ship is going on, but the flowers, everything is so pretty. But I don't live in New Orleans, New Orleans living me, so I have to always I'm back home no matter where I live. I've enjoyed many places in California. Has one some chicken bur I mean

some chicken b I mean some seafood. Yeah, when you were coming up rapping, did you hone your skills via talent shows and competitions? Did you kind of like get into it? Now? I was at every talent show um, and we were part of a group me and Manny Fresh called New York Incorporated. Uh So we got the opportunity to give dances and be the DJ crew. So a lot of times when remember when we were young, we used to really have teen dances and places to go to as teenagers to enjoy the music. We will

always be one of the DJ crews. When the super domes started opening up and allowing a dance space for teenagers, we were one of the DJ crews. And then we had a man named Mr. Eli. He was like the concert promoter for raps, so he did all of the Rapp Attack concerts. We were blessed to be young kids opening up for all of the acts as they would drop. So Dougie Fresh. It's like rick uh. He was opening up for them. The first rapp attack had L. L. Coolmore, d jay Z, jeff In, the Fresh, Prince, jek O

and Hide. We got a chance to taste the big stage when we were young. Yes, and he rode around on the truck. Yes, many Fresh Daddy had he could ride around. He was like one of the first mobile DJs. But then he was a staple in a lot of the New Orleans ballroms. So, um, I didn't get it easy. I had to get it out the crawfish mud. And that's a whole another kind of mud. That's a whole another kind of mud. And um, it was important when I was coming up. You know, it was battling, it

was writing. It was all about writing. And and I'm glad to be a part of that school. Yeah, you were battling. Did you ever get booed? Never? Did you ever get boolges doing that's a regular show, like a talent show or something like that. You never? I never been well, no, let me tell you no, let me tell you so bowled? Was St. Louis when we first started this damn tour again. Man, Yes, and that's one of my favorite places. Like as far as not like

maybe it was, but yeah, we get to see Louis St. Louis. St. Louis Is sold out. My people in St. Louis then bought every piece of camouflage in St. Louis. First of all, I don't know the particulars on how the runner shows go as far as the technical side, but they had the people waiting two hours after they had been waiting two hours us. They played the wrong record. The wrong record so we always come out on the limits soldiers. They played, uh, hot boys and not girls? Who you

got DJ? Right? Well, I mean yeah, he got a DJ, but something happened where hot boys and hot girls came on. He was enraged and I was trying to say, well, let's just go with it, let's just go with it. But there was a pause where we didn't go with it, and the DJ scrambled to put the right record on, but the people started booing. Then when we got out there, the music cut off at one point, so they started booing again. So that's that's how I experienced the boing.

The show went on and they got into it the music because they loved the music. But initially they was frustrated Yeah, that's a different guy. That's frustrating boot that it wasn't that it was boring, Like yall ship in, y'all asses here, and we want to get right into it and we're not getting nothing into it now. But we all st Louis, We really do because um, everybody else have gotten a chance to enjoy the full experience

and they didn't. So yeah, yeah they bowed. I was like, I'll be damn yeah, but that that's we got booed. We went to New York started coke, you know what I'm saying, Like, no, we went to New York when we first started as ghetto boys, and we were talking you know, we were talking in street ship and back you know in in in in the late eighties, New

York rappers was backpackers. They were talking about how good they get wrapped, and we were talking about hose, We're talking about dope, We're talking about beat nigga's asses for me, Yeah, everybody talking about Then we got boomed. But we also was talking about loyalty and taking care of your family and things like that, and police brutality and corrupt you know,

corrupt politicis real ship because I'm gonna tell you. People would come to my house and Ghetto Boys would be blasting and they would say, like, your mama gonna say and I say, na, she cooking, that's her playing that. That's no sellout, that's hard, that's you know, that's my mama. Yeah, very very strong activist. But mama would be banging the records and my friends would think it's me and think it's so loud, like you're gonna get in trouble. You

got the whole house rocking. Oh, my mama is in the kitchen with the boom box, and that is her playing Ghetto Boys. So my mom understood the message and the music, even though it was distorted sometimes by cussing and violence. I mean, those things were happening in our community.

And y'all know it's by eighty three. The subject matter was there for us when we looked out the window, when we stepped outside, when we went into the schools, and we knew some of our friends was, you know, needing clean like us, and then we saw him coming to school dirty. Yeah, and you know what, and we we just never wanted to brag about the life. Our thing was always getting out and doing better, trying to better situation and giving information and instructions like we do

on this podcast. It's always been about that, and I appreciate the fact that you, your mom and other people who were able to get the messages saw saw the message, heard the message and didn't get like uh, didn't get blinded and getting didn't get sidetracked by the prof ay or whatever. It was some serious messages and and that was my mama's whole thing with me. Um. She was like this, don't be saying stupid stuff. Just to be saying stupid stuff. I don't mind your cussin because my

grandmother custom you know, come from a custom household. But she wanted me to always make it make sense, especially to my people. And she didn't care the way I said it. She didn't care the way I said it, but it had to make sense for our people. And she wanted me to always be able to express and explain myself. You know, when when Rap was put on

trial for the things that we were saying. But the thing about it is when we stepped outside, that's what was going on before the shift in in music and the way it is now, and when we started talking about things before that shift, that stuff was still there. People was on the car on the selling drugs. We learned about strawberries before n w A saying something about a strawberry. We knew people was sucking dicks for rocks and selling all this stuff. We knew that before we

went into the studio. We saw that that's what was happening in our community before rap. Most of us is older than the first hip hop record that dropped, So it wasn't just a rap artist and a rap music. That stuff was happening, and and and things wasn't so sunny and so bright to just talk about. It wasn't all party music. After a while you had to start saying, well, damn everybody on rocks, and now people killing each other behind rocks, and now turfs are being established in a

name a crack those territories. You know what I'm saying. A lot of that stuff happened before records was even dropped. And then you have the kids. You know, if your parents wasn't giving you both signs of it, so when they picked they pin up, it just sounds all negative, negative, negative, but they was living in that. Now we got a

lot of kids. I don't like the ones that you know, jump clean up out of beautiful house with a beautiful situation and nobody struggling, and then make this struggle music for the sense of just profiting. We was knee deep in that ship. We was knee deep in it. And um, that's what I want people to understand. As far as the shift and like, uh that the mid and late eighties when the whole tide turned, and now you know, the music we have is just just a lot, a lot,

a lot of craziness. Whereas we did still have that balance because y'all got booed in New York because they was backpacking and y'all was running what y'all was running, and then California started running what they was running, you know, and we still had the diversity. Though. If you wanted to listen to a backpacker, you could. You wanted to listen to school, a person that was talking street music

or what they said gangster rap, you could. You want to listen to a person that was doing all party music, you could. Now you have to go searching on the internet to find these artists because a lot of times we're just getting that one thing pushed out, and by that one thing being pushed out, it gives a rap as a whole a bad name. What do you think

about Cardi b making the stallion Nikki? These type of artists, the women who's uh pushing running ship, pushing the the independent running ship and also getting over on men narrative. I hear a lot of that, you know, like it's not just it's not just about like no being independent or whatever, but a lot of it is like, you know, fuck you pay me? Like I mean, I'm saying that it is. Look, let me tell you something because that's the game. But I'm asking my first record, my first record.

Payback is the reason why I will never come for a lady in her lyrics. But prior to uh, fuck you pay me, it was like fuck a bitch, don't trust no bitch has six or seven bitches. So that's what we were listening to. So the other side of it is, well, all right, then if it's don't trust no bitches, have six or seven bitches, then when you funk with me, pay me, that's pretty much what happened. But like, uh, but how do you how do you how do you do you get to say fuck you

pay me and still be considered a respectable woman? Yeah, because I mean, a respectable woman is in is really in the eyes of who who's ever about to call your respectable or not respectable? My grandmother was h puss it out when bread don't show us grits groceries. Um, I mean, so look and your mom. I'm just saying there with with the with the rapping um and and in the tone that music takes, what the funk you

pay me? It really comes from years and years are listening to how some guys come across on the music. Because let me tell you something, pay back the guys in New Orleans. You know when bounce music was created, it was you know, bitch stopped talking, that ship stuck and they get thick for outfit. So when I came out, I was like, oops, oo's got some hair and your teeth. Bit you graduated from tips and now you're nicking clicks. But that straight came from what I was hearing from

the guys. It could be you know what, it could be comed by y'all. And and look look at look at this. Uh, Megan is in a relationship. Kardi and Nikki are married women, so you know they love their kings. You know they respect their relationships. But at the same time, somebody has to be the voice when we have all these other voices chirping in the background about bitches and funk holes and don't trust them bitches and you know,

don't love them, duck them. When you have that kind of stuff going on, they have to be another voice that have to be that balance. You know what. That's a good point. But here's the thing, like what I'm what I'm what I'm experiencing here, what I'm witnessing here is a cycle. Because men will we'll say, well, the reason why we feel this way and the reason why we're saying letahobia hole is because we've been played by women.

We've been you know, used by women. So so everybody, if you played again, that's why you little know that you've been played. So so himself has been played. And here's the thing, man, you can't you can't even learn in order to win and appreciate winning. You gotta learn how to lose first to appreciate winning. But anyway, man, moving on this. No, no, no, I'm not trying to throw y'all. Willie. I've just been on you a long end time, bro, and I have never seen this side

of you. Man, you have really changed changed. Well I'm supposed to change, Brad. You know it's called growing. No, it's all good though, I'm just saying that that's crazy, like I was saying, you know, drugs. I think go back to what happens to our community, Like our families really were broken up and separated, and where you had strong women and men who are now addicts. They did things that was out of their character all the while

they still was raising children. So that took a shift in our mentality where we used to really really love and depend on each other, especially in our black men and black women. It's like so much distrust. You don't trust each other anymore. Where is it? Let me say this, and I'm gonna ask you, like where is that coming from? So I'm gonna ask so Cardi, uh Bgan, Nikki Dope, super Dope actually like all of them. And I have a personal love for Megan because she's age twn. You

know that that's our girl. So and yeah, a beautiful person. But I just wanna the question is is a valid question? I do believe because I mean they are they are the women who are who are carrying the torch right now they're out in the front, and that's a that's

a that's a legitimate question. Uh, I do believe because we're we're we are faced with these we are faced with this, this this this thing where that battle to your point, we we got this the men over here, the women over here, and and everybody's plutting fingers at each other. And at the same time, we're still trying to raise babies, We're still figuring out a way to

I still um attracted to you. I still want to have sex, which you want to look, we want to have family, want to have baby, but I hate you. Ask at the same time, like, how do we how do we get out of that mold that we're in right because right now it is a lot of bickering going back and forth, the men blaming the women, the women are blaming the men. And I'm sitting back like, yeah, these motherfucker's have created the perfect storm. What's happening right here,

right now is the perfect storm. We can we can win a lot of battles. One battle we cannot win is we cannot win the battle of the sexiest. We cannot we cannot win a fight against each other. Black men and black women can. That is a losing battle.

Nobody's gonna win that fight. So you can get into your feelings all you want, but if you really care about your people, and you really care about your survival, then it is incombatible on you to figure that ship out and get out of your feelings and and and do what's best for yourself and for your family and for your people, because the trajectory that we're on right now, we're not gonna make it. We can live. We can win a lot of fights. We can we some fighting, motherfucker.

We can survive. Everything has ever been throwing our weight, and we're gonna survive. Other ship they're gonna be throwing our way. Then there's somewhere plotting right now to throw us off again and sunk us up right, and we're gonna survive that bullshit too. We figure it out, but we can't survive. You know. You know what I always think about though, I always think about the US versus US. You know that that really happens centuries before we got here.

I always think about if I had my master's baby, I'm pushed this white baby out, but my husband got to be right here. Even though my hands was tied and so was his. We still don't like each other because of what just happened. He couldn't help me because I was violated, and I couldn't help him because that's his master. So I think centuries ago we started looking

at each other differently. And I think when we started to get on track, like after slavery and and cities were established by us and our businesses, we were on point, and then the city started getting bombed and then lynching our men, lynching our women. I'm a woman, and y'all budge in my house and take my son and my husband can't do nothing. I'm mad with him. I'm mad with him. You know, rape my daughter and you can't

do nothing. I'm mad with you. I won't do nothing. Well, I'm gonna say hands tied, because you know, if if the lynch mob is there with all of the guns and the torches and we don't have anything but the things that were yielding in our home, his hands was tied. So physically, emotionally and mentally, that division that was a long time ago, and we are still fighting to escape that initial division, right and like now we don't even think about that kind of stuff. We just think about

with like rap. You know, fuck you, nigga, pay me, fuck these holes, be with other holes. We think it's that, but it's stuff so deep in us, and young people don't even know. You know, I know it's not hip hop. I mean, I'm not stupid. No, I know it's not. It's deeper than hip hop. But what I'm saying is just a psychologically, I don't think it's clicking with men and women that, um, we have this trauma. We have this trauma that's been passed on to us from generations

that we don't trust each other. We don't know if you're really gonna look out for me. We don't really trust each other word. I mean, you say you're gonna bring the pampers in, but I don't think you're gonna bring We start feeling like that immediately, and we might not know all day. He trying to make sure he get the pampers for the month. We we don't even know. But you know, those walls and that anger, that suspicion. I just feel like it has a lot to do

with that more than the stuff we think is the right. Now. You know, when you first meet a woman might like this woman she might be everything esthetically one she they talked to talk you like, but in the back of your mind you still saying, waiting for the other shooter drop. See was this motherfucker really gonna do? Like we come in with each other. I don't think other racests come in with that suspicion to see that was a plot and part of a plan that was done to us

alone long time ago. The trip part about it mean is that that plan, that plot is still in motion and they're constantly doing certain things the sneaky ass canine and things to further divide us. And it's like we keep walking right into the trap because we got we got the spirituality in the common sense torture out of us a long time ago. Um, like I said, we're

dealing with trauma. But see here's the thing, Like for me, I believe everybody's just really really just super into their feelings and nobody's really thinking critically because for me, there is nothing you can do. There is no woman made of woman who can turn me against women, not Black women specific they ain't a woman. It don't matter, Like like I'm not never gonna get that that into my feelings.

I'm not like like some of these do it. It's a dude right now listening to me, right now, he's about to cry, you know, and you know he got home in him. You know, like he really got home in him. Like he very emotionally type. Emotional type dude. You know he to do that say I love my mom, I love my kids, I love my daughter, but I hate women. This ship don't even make sense to me, Like how can you as a man hate that which

you come from. How can you hate women and have a daughter or mother say you love them, but you hate black women? How can you, as a black woman say I hate black men, but you love your black son. You ain't even qualified to raise him because you hate what that which he is to become. You're not qualified to raising. You can't give something that you ain't got. The all these people that's online, that's that that's crying and and complaining all the damn time about black people,

and I'm talking about black people. Self hate, bro that self hate, self hate. Get out your feelings. And if you cannot get out your feelings, get out of the way, take your ass somewhere on another planet and go set up shot and all your motherfucker's get out the way because we got some we got some black people out here. There's still a little of that blackness, you know. Like I am like this ship right here. You see this motherfucker's scan This is cool ship, right, this ship right here, Man,

this ship is cold letting right. What the fun I'm gonna be? Man, come on, has a lot to do with programs. Look at that goddamn brounche that should look good. But but the programming and they can't get me with that, That's what I'm saying. They can't get me with that ship. Like, I just feel like if you hate yourself, gag because there ain't nothing you can give to the world. Ain's nothing you can do. You can't do ship for nobody

unless you do something for yourself first. So you may thank you being smart and you slick, and you above everybody else, you're more intelligent than others, because you have come to the conclusion that you don't like nobody that looks like you. You don't like them because they you know. You may thank you smart, but you really wanted the dumbest motherfucker's in the world, because self hate is the worst hate. But see I think our people are the

only ones that programming and conditioning is. Uh, it's like centered on because we have a lot of friends were in hip hop and now everybody loves hip hop and everybody, all the folks are not conditioned to feel like they women as bitch as a whole and they men or nobody's embold arms, you know, dead beats. Those words are not even used in in in you know, with other people.

It's a direct target, and unfortunately we do fall for it because it's programmed constantly, constantly to make you feel like if your mama not married, then she must have been a whole, you know, or if your daddy didn't pay child support, he just dropped something off, he's a dead beat. You know, we've been targeted, and then once we were targeted, our people are constantly programmed. So you'll have a young lady who don't have kids yet get

all her education, move with the system. She may turn her nose down at a brother that's not educated and automatically assumed that he's a bum. Because these this is how we're being conditioned. They don't do that to nobody else. Now what my mom raised me to believe that because so much of this was being done to us that let me know how great we were. You gotta keep tugging these people hate I miss your mom. You gotta

keep talking in these people. You gotta keep trying to uh infest them with drugs, diseases in the wrong programming. You know, Like, we were the only people in the world that was rewired in every sense of the way, how we think, how we eat, how we love, how we commune. We're the only people in the world that

that was done too. And I want to go on record right now until some of you, oh dirty motherfucker's out there that's listening to this show right now that I like to say, ship like with cent of the population is responsible for eight of the murders they responsible locked up in all this stupid ship. Me tell y'all something. Let me explain something to your dumb ass. No group of people in the history of civilization has ever been able to reach their full potential when they've been targeted

by their own government for failure. The government makes the laws, the government enforces the laws. I tripled that any motherfucking race out there on this planet to try that ship in any country where you're being targeted by your own government. Your ass wouldn't come nowhere close to what we've been able to accomplish with all of these attacks on us, year after year, decade after decade, century after century. You couldn't do it. You're fucking jump off fucking building. You

couldn't do it. We're on the constant attack. So it's not just it was the law. It's not killing. You can have him, you can buy him, you can sell him, you can rape his grandma, you can use his babies for alligator bait. The United States federal government said that was cool. Go ahead, We're not mad at you. And then you know, like you rise up from the ashes, and what do they do. They try to try to

get out. They recognize our greatness because what they do, they'll they'll try to go and find our best, get our greatest, and then try to use them against us. Get them to come over here and work for them. Hey, they don't don't go over there, don't don't work them, don't help them either. They'll try to build somebody just they're they're trying to build one of bears like us. Happens all the time. Man, I love this, I love this. Singer let's get the great white hope to be you know,

great whatever, Like it's cold blooded. Man, I see this ship all the time. I just think when when when men and women know, you know that that the family was definitely targeted. Um and and we were programmed to look at us in a negative light. We were programmed to look at us in a negative light. So even when you're trying, there's all these little things that make those glitches. Like I said, it starts that division. Trying

bro think about what she's saying. Like I think about even when you're like the average person get up and try to go out and be productive in the world, right, trying to make something out of themselves. And in most cases the average person that's the average person is there's no interference being read the average black person get up, go out and try to make some especially black men. And what do you have police fucking with you? I right,

they rideing on. You're trying to funk what you go ohuat and do, try to get your job or whatever whatever. They won't hire you. So and this is the thing, like for us, we need to get used to being entrepreneurs. Fuck trying to go and get it. Education to work for them, get that ship, learned that ship so you can work for yourself, and and and so that you can and and and so that you can give your your children can come work for you instead of trying

to go out and work for them. You did what I'm saying, we gotta get used to that because a they got the ship stacked up against us, and that's the way it's gonna be. It's not gonna change. And exactly stole all this ship and then created well by selling what they stole. Uh, I want to I want to ask you a question. So the Willie Lynch theory, the letter you read that Willie how it was really it was Willie Lynch really a person or is somebody just bring the ship out of the thing there what

they're saying, that's it. That was actual name. That was his name, and that and that was his letter how to make a slave and that ship at that instruction manual that he installed back in the seventeen hundreds still applies to right now. You know what I mean? You you you turned the man against the woman, the child against the parents, you know, the bright guy against the dark skin. You know, like it's still in effect, right now look at the wickedness man, Look what what what

type of country? What type of government? One? Look what what type of government would would would would purposely make sure that the men of a specific group could not be imployed. And then go to his woman and say, as long as he will give you some money, but you can't have him in the house at all. You gotta kick him out of that you can't work, and you can, you can work. So what was that about? See, and people think you can just turn that ship off.

This is conditioning, This is generations, and this ship has passed down just like any other type of conditioning can be passed down. It can be good, bad, or and different, but it's passed down. So it just trist me out. How you have people that try to ignore these type of facts, act like this ship don't matter your government. Your government goes in and tell a woman, look, kick him out of the house and we'll give you some money to take care of you and the kids. But

you can't work. And he we've been not catch him over here. So and guess what he gotta be. Not only does he have to be out of the house, we bet not catch him when we roll up he'd better not be here. So now what's in the guy's head? You know, I can't miss that up for her and kids. They won't give me a job. I can't mess that up for him. And I'm scared to go over there because they might show up. Yeah, the movie Claudine, you remember that how to Toasta? Howd the TV the welfare

people came? I remember. I remember that movie vaguely, but I remember the old school movie. I think seventies right, But but it was the welfare They thought the welfare lady was coming, and it was a woman and a man children who loved each other. Welfare people were coming um and and so the things that they were able to saving buy like a TV and toaster, ironing board, things that you wasn't supposed to have living under the assistance,

because I was supposed to have this money. So when the welfare lady came, they were running scrambling, trying to hide what I guess that the system would consider as as a luxury. But it was an ironing board TV. You know. That stuck out with with me in that movie. I was a little kid, but it always just like, wow, they have to hide their TV. If the high, they toasted, you know. Um. But I think now we put so much focus on what you know what, it's the music,

you know what. Else it's because they don't want to uh, they don't want to pull their pants up. You know. We we we put a lot of blame on those things without stepping back and saying, hey, y'all, we've been living with some trauma for centuries, and we birth babies and we birthed them into the trauma. You know, we birthed them into the trauma. And um, I think with a lot of artists with our music, we don't hate

each other at all. And it's almost like what we call Jones and ribbon on these wreck is that we've done in hip hop so long. But one of the problems I have is a lot of other artists with different topics are not being pushed in the front. When we first started doing it, we saw a lot of artists being pushed to the front, a lot of talented artists, a lot of diversity. We don't see the diversity as much.

Like I said, you have to go searching, you know, for this artist for lyrics and you know this artist if you want to feel a party vibe, we have to go searching for that when when there was public Enemy, when there was ghetto boys, you know, and there was Young MC. Also, we don't see hip hop like that anymore, where there was a variety of whatever you liked as far as you know, your music or your lyrical content.

Now the stuff that's really being pushed out is a lot of the stuff that seems like it's just fun niggas and bitches and kill niggas and kill bitches. We used to have a lot of variety. It was it was um promoted. The variety isn't promoted. It's not that it's not there, it's just not promoted. So for the average person that's just going here to click their all they're seeing is that one track thing. When they still have a lot of dope artists that's doing a lot

of music. But it seems like it's not part of whatever agenda to keep us, uh like stifled or to stunt the growth of the people. We're seeing a whole lot of one thing. But these artists, I know they you know, these women love the men, these men love the women. But we're being overly saturated with one thing, you know, one thing. We get back to the diversity. I've think, um, you know, artists like us that people listen to. When we find an artists that's talking something real,

we need to share these artists. We need to share them, you know, on our platforms. Hey, y'all, this is who I've been listening to. I like two girls, Um, well like a lot of girls at home. He has some dope girls at home, but three d n T and Bricky for President. I don't know Bricky for President. Yes, so I share her and then my other friends share her, and she is doing really, really well because she has a solid base. But we have to start sharing the artists that we like, you know, just so that it

can circulate more. Because the people that's really controlling like everything we see as a majority all pushing out a lot of the stuff that's making rap music. It look like it's just this one thing. It's just this sex, it's just this violence, it's just this foolishness. Um. When that's not the case. And then we have to also with the brothers and sisters that's making the music that we made about sex and about violence, we have to step back and really pay attention to everything that they're

saying because some of them. They come from these environments, the ones that don't like I said, I don't. I don't really respect that. Um, I don't really respect you making all these records about killing people and selling dope and using dope, and you never did and never will do none of that, you know. I don't. Yeah, talk, you know. But I don't have a problem with with them. I don't have I wouldn't have a problem with somebody from the suburbs who has a great imagination for so

called gangster rapp, a reality rap or anything. My problem is acting like it's real, for real, outside of the record, and not providing instructions, information and instructions, because you can talk about having that chop in the trunk, but you need to tell these youngsters what's gonna happen if you get caught with that motherfucking child. Yeah see, And that is the difference what I'm talking about and educating us,

using it, using it to educate and uplift. It's the bragging and then and then you're bragging and it becomes popular, and then the kids that are living it they take to that because they live in it because somebody's bragging. I never had a problem with the real music, the

gangster music, because I'm a part of that. But it's just when you are pushing this out to some of the young people, when that's all they living and all they know, they're gonna embody it, and then you go back hat and ducked off somewhere, tucked off, don't want no parts of it, not telling them if you get caught with this chopper, you worn't more to them in prison. Let's keep it all the way real. You worn't more

to them in prison. So if you're Tolden this chopper around just to say you got a chopper, just know you wort more to them in prison. Tolden the chap because you're tolding the chopper is totally different than Tolten the chopper because I'm really into something, you know. And and that's that's where the problem is for me, because we have a lot of young people that's really living that, and they're living it not because they chose to. We have a lot of people in our neighborhood that was

boring into things. They didn't choose it. They came home to addicts, you know, they came home the untreated mental illness. We have a lot of kids that's growing up like that, and so when they hear somebody that's saying something that they could relate to, they kind of cling to it. That's what I did when I heard a lot of artists.

For us, it was mainly soul and R and B artists because we didn't have many rap artists to look up to, because we're part of a generation that was in the beginning stages, you know, like second generation hip hop, uh, coming up right under cool, Hurt and now. So we we was listening to R and B records. I remember I used to listen to country music because it reminded me of hip hop because I row the words was

even down to the violence in it. Yes, indeed like you know, but even even down to the violence in it. And we were able to pull what we could relate to based on what we heard. What about holding these damn record labels and and and Apple Music and you know these streaming platforms responsible because I'm tell you this, if the artists can't make a bunk off of it,

they're not gonna do it. If they can't sell the records, and also the facebooks, the Instagrams, the YouTube that play the music, if they can't get that music on the stream because it costs money to make music. If they can't get it on those streaming platforms, they're not going to wrap it, They're not gonna talk about it. So

the artists are the low hanging fruit. A lot of times we like to focus on the artists, and these artists, the artists, man, these rappers, these rappers, these rappers, these rappers, I have yet to hear anybody bring to heal these streaming platforms, these networks, you know, these even some of these big movie studios, and I have yet to hear them talk about these these people who really got the juice,

they could shut it down like this. So my thing is like, if if you're serious, you know, where where is your concern you know, for holding these other people accountable to people who got the money to bread, the ones who are really in power. See, I think they have the power to introduce it to us. But then ultimately the consumer is who clicked the downloads. The consumer is the one You're right, and I say that all the time. At the end of the day, to consumer

is the one who clicked. But at the end of the day, certain ship you can't consume if you say something by certain kinds of people. Yeah, not so if you so, If we so, we we really really really want to go there, and we really want to hold people accountable, and you really want to like focus on the calls and you know who's responsible, who can put an end of this type of ship, then the energy should be more focused on the people who got the

power to put it out. That's why when folks have a problem with certain things that an individual might say on a network or a guy that's a movie star, whatever, they go after the brand, they go after the sponsorship, the advertisers, They shut them down. I don't see that movement for shutting them down when the N word is used. I don't see that movement shut them down when when you're smoking on two key or smoking on this person

or that person. Whereas that same energy like like at some point, you know, we we gotta be responsible for holding the right people accountable instead of just picking the low hanging fruit. The wrappers are the low hanging fruit. They're just trying to make a buck, just like anybody else, just trying to make a buck. Not saying that it's right, but I'm saying, if you give a kid out the hood a shot, and all you gotta do is talk about his experience, talk about smoking somebody. That's a wrap

that's gonna happen. But it won't happen if this is such a such company over here, said Apples, said, no, we don't play that. You can't get spins over here. You can't get sales over here because their motherfucker's don't like us. But but but different, that's where it comes down. But but check this out. I think it ain't even about him not like and that's because most people don't like themselves. I think it has a lot to do

with the money. You know, at the end of the day, I feel that you don't think his money and talking about saying bad things about is reel or Jews. It probably homo sexual. You don't think it's some money, that somebody had money, if somebody had to, if somebody could get away with seeing what they really feel. You don't think it's some money and that it is some money

in that. But like you have to understand that a lot of people that ask controlling this, they may say, hey, no, you know, I'm Jewish, You're not gonna talk about me, um gay, You're not gonna talk about it. And I'm the boss over here, so see, you pay the calls to be the boss. See, I got the right to say what I'm gonna let y'all push out, and when I'm not gonna let you'all push out, because I'm the boss.

What we have to do. It's our responsibility, especially to the young people, since we've been so damaged, we have to break it down. And look, look, y'all, you might have really did kill such and such, and now you want to make a record. All your friends might have did it. And everybody that's from y'all hood might support

this record and not a beat this catchy. So all these people are supporting the record, but we have to understand, hey, y'all, we're doing more damage because ultimately they want to put us in jail. That's where the new the president is, the new slave ship. That's the slave ship, and and and and ultimately, we want to get as many of y'all as we can working on a sense of the dial is for us to keep building it, and slavery

is over. But I'm in a position to tell you because I got the money, you can't talk about me. You can't talk about me because I'm Jewish. Can't talk about me because I'm gay, You can't talk about me for whatever reason. Because I'm the boss. The bosses get the they get the option to make the decision. If the boss ain't a nigger, if the boss don't have parents, that's addicts. If the boss is not from the hood, they don't even relate to that. All they relate to

is the dollars that is generating. So we gotta the dollar. And then the boss got the holler. The thing is this here, When the people say I ain't streaming, When the people say I ain't downloading, that's when the boss gonna tuck his tail because the motivation from the boss is the green. So when the boss see, wait, nobody's streaming this, Wait, nobody's downloading. Wait, nobody's literally coming up with their credit cards and their dollars actually purchasing things,

that's when they start to get worried. Don't nothing worried them people, but being in the red that's the only they took the mom and pop stores out of the communities, and that really crippled independent labels. In my opinion, you know, it's it's most definitely did if if if you got uh an artist that's normally doing you know, gold planet albums man, when like we're just now kind of getting into uh streaming and downloading. But think about this streaming.

They're paying us less than an eighth of a cent to stream to hear our music. Right. But think about he said, oh, many ain't making no money like that. They're making a ton of money like that. You know why because if you got twenty million people that's subscribing to whatever Spotify, Apple Title or whatever per year and they're making twenty bucks a month, that's more money than they selling a million records on this artist. So they

really fucking us. And and and think about like you said, the mom and pop stores, because we still have one left in New Orleans that opened in seventy times. I think we have one here. We have one store. We have one that that opened in seventy three. But you can remember when you would bring you c d s and you would do consignment. We were seeing that, we were seeing the five dollars. And now you say of

a cent. We used to have so much control when we had independent labels, moving things the old school way, but that had to be shut down too, and every time we get our foot in the door, there are gonna be some obstacles because the plans started centuries ago, and we have to understand that we always have to go back to the initial plan. But you know, I don't have like we people say, well, shut the music down. Listen,

a lot of these things are going on. They're gonna talk about it, they're gonna make the music about it. The individuals have to say what we're gonna buy in what we're not gonna buy. It's some wrap that's full of cussing and full of violence. And I hear it, and I understand where they're coming with from, and I fool with it. It's some wrap that sounds stupid to me. I ain't folding with it. I'm not I'm not gonna fold with it. Circles all the way back around to

the consumer. Yeah, the consumer. So when y'all say an artist is whack, what you're really saying is your whack because you're buying it. I mean, you're on it. It comes down to the consumer. But how does that how do how does that artist even get on the platform? Though? Well, because okay, let's say they are um, they are with a powerful label or have some powerful back in. Those promotional dollars are gonna push the artists where they're gonna be seen. But it's still comes down to when you

hear it, do you want to fool with it? Consumers? Do you want to fool with it? Do you want to eat this brand of chicken or that brand of chicken? The consumer always speak on it. This type of cold drink or like people say, sold on sold what cold drink? This type of this type The consumer always make that decision. Well, I'm I like, you know, I want that. I don't want that. I want that I don't want We we make that decision. We make that decision all the way

down to our shoes. I want this kind of shoes. No, I want that kind of shoes. But you know what I like getting into the music industry back in the game, if you didn't have talent, let the building. Yeah, Nikki really spoke on that. I saw a clipper and that, Yeah that I'm not gonna lie. That was real and from the right d from the label. It was a dope as artist. So the thing is it still comes back to who we're liking, who we were, because it's

our dollars. I tell a lot of people every day. Uh, everybody depends on the consumer, from the government to the man in the mirror, everybody. Can you know, we depend on the consumer, and and consumers go through different phases. We might be on the conscious phase, might be on the party phase, might be on the gangster phase. And we put our support a lot of times in the phase, the moment, the trend, the fad. We do that. But that's on us because if you don't want to hear

such as such, don't listen to it. If if your whole family don't want head, that's a whole family that didn't decided. But if you do, that's a whole family that did. We have this choice when it comes to what we're listening to, what we're eating. We have this choice. A lot of times I don't even know who's out and who's really popping because my choice is old school. So in my house, the music is the sixties and

the seventies, in the eighties. But that's my choice. Now, if I get in the car with my kids and they're playing something out, well, who's that. I might like it, So then gonna go and I'm gonna google that artists and see what's happening with them. And now I'm a new fan. But when it's something that I don't like, I don't like that, got that off? Can you put on some better? Right? Because I want to hear Betty right?

You know we have that control, but we like to play the blame game, which is, let's pick on these rappers because they're the ones that got all of this music out. When really and truly, if you don't want to hear it, you start putting your babies in the call and you start playing what you want them to hear. So a lot of little babies know Stephen Wonder, they know everybody because that's who their parents is pumping. Now when they become teenagers, they're gonna pick the music they like,

just like us. Look what we grew up on. But by the time rappers Delight hit the Treacherous three It, we was hooked. We wanted to hear something else, even though we were still going back to the roots that we can't came up on our soul, our guys wild blues. But you you put them babies in the car and you introduced them babies to what you love, they're gonna end up liking what they like anyway, but they're gonna always come back. And that's why we use so much

great music. We sampled so much great music in our careers because of what we grew up listening to. People don't do that anymore. They just let whatever playing, just playing. So the babies, I mean, if i'm too, I'm gonna be smoking on whatever too. If I'm in the room and I'm we're riding in the car and babies here beats and cadence, and they pick up and they start mumbling. But that same stuff could be applied to them with

different types of music. You know, we our parents didn't really totally understand hip hop when we fell in love with it, but once more of it came out, you know, like my my mom she loved Grand Master, Fact Flash and the Furious Fact, she loved them. Different music came out, people would be shocked. My mama was a hard n w A fan, or hard Ghetto Boys fan, a hard Public Enemy fan. But at the same time she listened to Tremaine Hawkins and Hawkinson singers. She listened to Haddie Labell,

the group LaBelle. It was a lot of diversity, and so for me. I was always able to approach music based on my love for it, and I didn't really ridicual ridicule a lot of it. Except but like I'm saying, you come from here and you are not a lot of the music. It's not even creative. It's just everybody rapping by the chopper. So let me get up out of my mam a three four hundred thousand dollar house

and rapp about a chopper. Two when the first kid that's rapping about a chopper might really had to carry one, And then that's a problem too. Like okay, man, we didn't got to the point now where we really just didn't launched all our walk on ourselves and our different hoods and in our communities. Somebody gotta tell them it's cool to wrap about that. But do you know that in front of your mama loan the sidewalk and where

your mama mailboxes, she on own that. And so a lot of these sidewalks that y'all getting stretched out on, that's not your turf, that's the state turf. This ain't your set, this middle of street where you're dying that I don't care for your mama own the house. Dad ain't her land where your mailbox said that ain't her land, and we're getting stretched out. It is not really our turfs. We shouldn't be killing each other about the turf in our moms renting them houses. That's not your turf. It's

not they're playing rent. That's the kind of stuff we have to start telling them. You know when you can still listen to anything you want. But just understand, you were more in prison than you are with a nine of five all your own business. You weren't more to them in prison. Do you want to carry your ass in to prison than gone? But you need to know this here they will take all your rights from you.

So right now, if you don't listen to your mama, if you don't want to wash the dishes or make your bed when she said, you ain't got no choice in jail. Thank god, thank god that the consumers listen to me a X. We would not be sitting here with this treasure, not just a hip hop treasure, but a world treasure. I mean, we really do appreciate you, and you do brighten people days when you going too

that Instagram? If you what's your Instagram? Off top the Mama Mia X, the Mama mea X. You know I'm following it and I do appreciate you when you post on mine. You know, yeah, we love you for real. You know I love you. You got that spirit man, You know that that brightens the room and you uplift people with your voice and your attitude. So we really do appreciate you everything that you brought to the game. You are to be respected and reckoned with. Oh, thank

you so much, ladies and gentlemen. Ma X dope alright. This episode was produced by a King and brought to you by the Black Effect Podcast Network and our Heart Radio