The Krayzie Bone Episode

their heads and then blame it on us. Don't get it twisted on code and me dancing for no buttoment biscuits. It's Willie d'all scar faces in the building. Collective Louis are the ghetto boys, reloaded with another episode of information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world. In the studio, crazy bone, Yo, what's up king? It's good, it's good with someone my man craze herself, but it's it is beautiful. But I know we're finn

to get into it for so off the rip. I want to say this before I forget, because I know it's one of those things that everybody should know by now. But we don't. I think people kind of take it for granted. Crazy Bone. How did you come up with the name Crazy Bone? Man, It's like it's it's just like a family name, you know what I'm saying. Uh, we came up with it like back um, like well

after high school. You know, it was lazy Bone actually had a little a little clicky ram with when he was out living in Dallas, Texas actually, and they called itself Bone Enterprise. So when he came back to Cleveland, he was like, yo, man, had this little click I ran, well, you know, I'm saying, we should take this name and we should use it and the bone and the bone name is the family name, you know. So that's why

that's an acroname. Yeah, Bony. Back back then, the stiff um beating no niggers there every day, brewed out niggas every day, butted out niggas everything, you know, whatever. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah whatever at the time, you know what saying. But and and you know that's why everybody got to say, like last nigger, that's that's that's what makes you the family, you know, saying like the bone is the family name.

So yeah, I can tell when I ask you a question you know, you had like, yeah, it kind of made you cringe a little bit. There are other things like in the lyrics or whatever, that you may have said back in the day that you wouldn't say today. Oh man, yeah, man, that's a lot of stuff we said, like a lot of stuff we said that we probably

couldn't say to day. You know what I'm saying, because it's like then cut you off a quick, man, But yeah, I mean it's a lot of stuff Like I mean, man, you know when you're young, you're like, you have this whole way of thinking. Man, you know what I'm saying, and you think that's the right way until you get older, until you hit that brick wall that you know what I'm saying, like thinking that way, and then you get older and you're like, oh, maybe that wasn't the right way,

you know what I'm saying. So it's like, yeah, it's a lot of things like like I was just talking about when I did the um the interview on the drinking chains, like like playing with the Uigi board and like talking about Tuiji board. You know heard that's something that I would never do today, you know, devilish man. Everybody thought that man devil I started talking about that weiji board. No, No, how did that make you feel when they started saying and saying that, man, it was

like I kind of took a fence to it. But then you know what I'm saying, Like, when I really thought about it, I was like, yeah, but I mean, but this is what you're putting out there and you're saying like, would you expect people to think you know

what I'm saying? But we we we did it like we did it as a ways, just just expressing ourselves, just talking about what we've been experienced in the past, whether it was like dumb, stupid, like you know what I'm saying, Like we was young, like so we're experimenting with things, man, like whether it be mal juanna, drinking, playing with the board. You know what I'm saying. It was just like we did We did that kind of stuff when we were jugging, Like, yeah, this experience is

ship you know, Luigi board experience. Yeah. Because of the negativity that came with it, does it make you a little bit more cognizant about things that you promote, you know, like at least having more knowledge about it before you start promoting something, Oh yeah, pushing a certain angle or whatever. Yeah, man, most definitely, most definitely. You know, I do think a

lot about you. Don't like the content I put out now, you know what I'm saying, But you know, like being an artist, you know, like I always tell people, it's like, you know, um, being an artist, man, Like you go through different emotions and that's how you express yourself. So one day you can be feeling like, you know what I'm saying, fun the world and you want to you you you feel like being a gangster. You gotta gangster attitude,

you know, saying. One day you could feel like, you know what I'm saying, you want to bring peace to the world. It's just like living in this world, that's what brings out those emotions or and I think that's

what make good artists, you know what I'm saying. But I do, I do, like pay pay more attention, like to the things I talked about now and trying to make it more not necessarily everything positive, but just like share some light on some things out here just going on in the world now not and don't just be rapping about me all the time or just be rapping about you know who got the best style, and like things like that, you gotta like get something back to

the people. And sometimes, you know, I'm saying, when you talk about who got the best style, lazy seems to be believe that Bone got the best style, and as he should. I think that should believe that. Hey man, nobody fucking with me period exactly. And I think that you have to have a certain cockiness so to speak about yourself to even be a rapper, and that make

people believe what you're saying. When he spoke about the Meg saying that they were the best ever, we're the best ever at all the groups and all hip hop groups ever, We're the best. How did you feel about that? Because it's lazy to take it personal. You're taking a big time offense to it. Yeah you did, man, I didn't. I didn't really take it personal at all, because, like, just like you said, I feel like they still feel like that. I mean, you're on top of the game.

It's like, okay, y'all, y'all, y'all data targets now, so it's like everybody is shooting that them, you know what I'm saying. So it's like when you're at the top of the game, that's just how it is, man like. And and you're supposed to you have that footing that you're invincible. So you're gonna walk like that, you're gonna talk like that. We did, you know what, we couldn't could nobody tell me? Man, when we was out there, Like, couldn't nobody tell us that they was better than us?

Bottom up? I mean still okay to it tow us hurt the still you know what it's like. And man, you're right, you can't even you can't even like begin to think you want to be into hip hop without having some type of some some some form of aggression to your style, because like you gotta get you gotta commit and stake your claim, gotta gotta take your place, and nine times of the ten you gotta somebody else out of the airs. So you gotta be aggressive with it,

you know what I'm saying, Like it's real talk. Man. Let's take a trip to Cleveland. Oh yeah, it's the hometown. This is where it all begin, Cleveland on how you As far as I know, you guys were the first hip hop group to come out of Cleveland, probably the first like grouping a long time. I know we had r and B came out of Cleveland. Definitely hip hop. I thank you what you guys were the first right as far as mainstream, you know, definitely definitely. And how

was that like growing up in your personal space, your household? Man? It was like, you know, like, oh man, it was like, I mean, well, you know, I was I was. I was raised at the real strict household. I was raised as a Jehovah's witness, you know what I'm saying. So it was like, you know, like my parents were strict. So everything I did, you know, saying when I got up age, I would I snuck and done, you know

I'm saying. I was like, you know what I'm saying, Like when I went, when I when I hooked up with my dudes, it was just like you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I knew what they were saying. It was just like I just wanted to You know how it is when when somebody telling out to do something when you're young, you just be like why, I want to know what he's saying that don't do it, you know saying. So that's exactly what I did, went onto the world and experienced it for myself. You know what

I'm saying. So it was like in the music scene in Cleveland, it wasn't that, it wasn't that big at all. Like we had we had to get out and it wasn't no when the end and that what none of that. Like we had to get out and look for talent shows and we had to keep an ear to the radio station and like just like look at like like look for flyers because the music scene was just like this, you know what I'm saying, Like in it was just

hard life for anybody to hear us. And we man, we just entered every talent show and showcasing you could think of. Man that like, we went so far in Cleveland to the point we couldn't go no further. Like we we became very known in Cleveland and we dropped up local albums called Faces of Death. We became very known from that project. And it was like we we understood that. You know, I'm saying, like now it's time for us to leave because like we started getting in

all kind of trouble. I went to prison, you know what I'm saying, And we was like, Yo, we don't leave here now and do something with this music. It's never gonna happen. So when I came home, we was like, yeah, we gotta we gotta get the hell out of Cleveland, like for real, and we had to go to California. Where was your furry into hip hop in the first place? Like when did you first decide that? I think I want to wrap man? So um, like before I was

wrapping you know what I'm saying. Like I was into Michael Jackson and like New Edition, like I was in like in the R and B. But then one day my brother brought home L L cu J album Radio and I sat there and listen to this album and

I was like blowing the way. I was like, yo, let's dud, It's crazy, and I wanted to learn the lyrics to hit soon so so us So I started writing the lyrics down and I was I was writing the lyrics down, I saw the format of how to write write a rhyme, so I was like, shoot, I think and write my own rhyme. So I just started writing home rounds and I never stopped writing from that day. It was like back that but that was back in the day when rappers used to drop about four to

eight bars perverse. Yeah, now you come along and you're dropping like hunted bars in one verse. You know, like, where did this rappid style come from? This man a rapper style came from? Like I tell everybody's story. I've even told the person to expanded. Big Daddy came. I was in I was locked up in the county jail and I was, um, I was sitting in there. I

was sitting in the day room watching Uh. We just watched a rap city, like the basement rap city, and a big Daddy came soon came on and like he had this one line to where he was like then he stopped and never did it again. And I was I sat there like, yo, if somebody wrote around like that just went all the way through and just didn't stop. That she had been cold. So I went back to my sale and I wrote around like that. I memorized

that ship. Now. Um, when I got out, I said it till the rest of the group and it was like, yo, that's it is crazy. And so they all took that and they all went off and wrote their own little ship and it was the same way. It was different And that same rap that I wrote it in in prison is the one I said for easy on the phone. That actually got us to deal. You know what I'm saying. It was crazy like that that one around my room.

I sat there and was like, yeah, I'm to write a whole rhyme like that, like from a big Daddy kin line. Do you remember the line? No? No, no, I don't even remember the line, bro like, but I know I heard him like it was. It was on his life, Um I think it was on his third album. I think it was, yeah, his third album. Leg don't remember the line though, It's crazy. What else do you do? Fast? Man? Uh man? A lot of things. I moved around fast. I moved like you know what I'm saying. I hate

waiting on people. I just moved. I'll let to take my time when a lot of things. Yeah, you don't like the rush, like you know what I'm saying, Like a lot of things make a lot of mistakes, moving too fast for real. I want to talk about the group, Yeah, I want to talk about the chemistry of the group, because you're saying like they all wrote their own versus in a different way, and that's true. Like each of

you guys have your own particular style. You know, you got wish, got this thing, you got busy got this thing, he's got this thing. You flesh got his thing, you got your thing, and it just meshes. Was that any point when you guys were making music where you had when somebody wasn't getting it and you said, oh man, we gotta do it like this or was it just

a natural yeah fit from day one? Yeah, but it was a natural cause because because we were together like so much, like we was like at some point of time, we all lived with each other, you know what I'm saying. Like, so like at some point they all live with at my mama house. We all lived at lay mama house, you know what I'm saying. Like, so we was always together all the time. So whenever we like, we we

wrote our rhymes together, like we did everything together. It was crime or making music, We've done everything together, and it was like just us and like so when we were like used to write our lyrics, we used to write together, and like so we would know, like the

other person's verse from the jump. So when we would add live the person's verse by one person was rapping the other foot with that live it was sounding like he was harmonizing, and like we didn't notice it, but people started telling I was like, yo, y'all, y'all sound like the rapping Temptations or something shing you don't like, And and people in the who started telling us this, they was like, y'all broken me, And there's the first person to hear y'all it's a rap, you know what

I'm saying. And then like we we started realizing and then like we started doing it more like I started like doing the singing and like putting the singing with it, and it's just like but it but it, But it gradually phoned over time because first we just wanted to be those dudes. It's just constantly like flow, like no

breaks in between, just keep flowing. And then like when we when that, when we added the like the like the like the the double time flow is just like elevated and just like it just all came together just out of just just just naturally, like you said, yeah, for sure, y'all had collaborations with Twister, right, Yeah, yeah, y'all have done collapse with Twister? Yes, and do you and have y'all ever done anything but do it Die? No? No, I think lazy Man had done a project with him,

but with one of the members. Yeah, that would be five Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely we need to get that ghetto boys man, come on, man and leave man that and then we've been talking about that. That's classic, man. We need So I already got the title right here, Okay, I got I got the I got the title. Could it could actually be the album title or single title, but I got a good Oh yeah, I'll tell it to you after. Oh good, oh good. But let's make

it happen for real. Definitely. But so what kind of students were you? Student? Yeah? Man, I ain't you know what I'm saying. School wasn't my thing, man, you know what I'm saying, Like, I mean, only the only other thing I wanted to do besides music was played football because I'm a he was like a football fan, so that that that's the only thing I wanted to do. But then when I found out, you know, school wasn't for you know what I'm saying, You had to you

had to maintain the school. It was that man. Yeah yeah yeah, And it ain't like you know what I'm saying, like school, I was just like one of them dudes later, you know, it was just like I learned enough in school to realize most of this is bullshit. I'm not gonna like need none of this. I don't give a damn about this. This is not gonna help me. These

are lies anyway, I'm saying. So as long as I got what I need to function in this world, I'm like, I'm not worried about what you're doing, the trying to teach us. I'm like, I'm going on my own path, you know what I'm saying. And that's just what I did. Man, you well well ahead of me. Man, Yeah, I I needed this stuff. Man, I didn't figure it out till I got out of school. I was a man need this. Why do I need to know how to dive sect the frog? Really? For real? For real? It's crazy. You

got any kids? Yeah? Man? How many kids you got? I got ten kids? Kids? Yeah, ten kids? God, yes, and I got ahead. I got six girls and four boys. Now do you have a close relationship? You got close relationship with all of them. And I keep all of them, like, all of them close. You know what I'm saying. They all they all like they are intertwined with each other. They stay in contact with each other, you know, make

sure they bonds stay close. Real here's here's anything, right, So where my kids we're we're going, Well, I had my daughter first, so my daughter was had all of the attention to herself for the first four years, and then my son come along, and not until he gets there do I realize I'm really gonna have to start giving him some of the time that she gets. Because I'm thinking at the time that I'm giving up all the time, all the spare that I had, and now I gotta split it up with her brother. So I

started feeling a little guilty about that. Do you ever feel guilty about spending more time with one of your kids than the other? Yeah? Man, yeah, definitely definitely. You know what I'm saying, because like I mean, I do you know what I'm saying because um uh, you know what I'm saying. I even like to be caution sometimes about like sometimes I'm kicking with something like what I post, you know, because something because because someone kids gave me,

Oh yeah, didn't you didn't tell us about this? He was, well, how can we not there? You know saying? But like you have to be I mean, I mean, it's it's it's hard, especially when you have like ten kids, you know what I'm saying it's hard to like ballots it but you have to find that way. Man, just get the time me and like and you know, I know I could even be doing more, you know what I'm saying. But it's just you know, like it's just a balance you gotta have for real, definitely. And how old is

the youngest kid and the oldest. The youngest is thirteen and the oldest is twenty four? Okay, back to back most Oh yeah, basically no twins and that at all? No no twins. Okay, all right, that's uh. And is that something that you wanted to do from Jump Street, Like you wanted to have a large family. Yeah, you always wanted to have like a lot of kids. You look, because all you know, I come from a big family. Man.

My family is like huge. I got family from the South, you know what I'm saying, down from Alabama to Georgia to Cleveland. Like it's it's it's crazy that my family is big. So um you saw is having like big family reunions, having a lot of cousins. There's a lot of nieces and nephews. Man, it's just like a lot

of big family, right. You know what I'm saying because you know, especially like because it gives um you know what, say, it gives the siblings, you know what I'm saying, Like that's security, you know what I'm saying, especially if they're all close, you know, sething, like when their parents is gone, y'all still got each other. So it's like, definitely, I've been seeing a lot of videos and reading about a

lot of stuffs. Actually covered a lot of stories on my YouTube channel where families are fighting each other, they're shooting each other. Saw one dude stabbed his relative I think it was nephew or something at a repass. That's cruel. Do you guys ever experienced stuff like that where you're fighting, you know, at family gatherings and stuff like that. Has ever gotten that bad man? None of my none of my family gatherings having their ever been a fight, like

at least amongst the family members. Like it might have been like somebody somebody else that got into it with, but like not that I can recall. Like, my family has never liked really um a getting like that, and they get and they drink and get drunk too, you know I'm saying, but they always just I mean, there's always no how to carey yourself, you knowing, Like for some reason, I've I've never witnessed any of those things

that any family gather and I've been to. Yeah, you know, I've seen arguments, you know, send amongst people, but I've never seen to get physical to where like a whole brawl you know what I'm saying, comes out and like you're shooting with them to the point to where you want to kill him. It's like, no, no, that's crazy. Yeah it is, and it happens a lot today, Like for real, Yeah, it happened at a repass in my family about four months ago. Wow, it was a shooting.

Nobody got hit, but the fact that it happened mm hmm yeah definitely here man, it's I was like, goddamn, well this is crazy. It's madness, man, Like where do people I've seen some woman killed her sons, shot him twice, like shot him once he was he had she she she said that he stole some type of like a tracking device or something like that out of her car something and she put a gun on him and shot him I think in the leg or something on. So

the boy was crying and stuff like that. So she continued to shake him down, like she was drilling him, like where is it? He wouldn't tell her, And I guess I don't know if he didn't tell her because he was just with older information. He just didn't know. And she shot him in the head. What her own child? And then I covered the sturdy the other day with this dude shot his mama, killed his mama. They was

arguing and he killed his mama. I'm like, I just don't remember ever being that mad at my mama where I wanted to shoot her. No. Ever, that's crazy, man, Ever, like forever. So you grew up in a religious household, you get up as a Jehovah Witness, right, man, how do you go from Jehovah witness to being in the one of the most I guess I was about to say notorious, but yeah, really is not notorious, you know, but but you but you are, but you are street and you are uh well known popular group, and we

know Jehovah Witnesses don't believe in that popular stuff. Yeah, definitely, So how do you go from Jehovah Witness? I mean, I mean, that's just what I um, That's just what I um. We're saying about you know what I'm saying, like me just rebelling and just wanted to go see things for myself. You know, you know what I'm saying. Like now, it's it's what I think. I didn't see it in the world to where I but oh yeah,

I'll see exactly what they were saying. It's true. It's all of everything that I was told about the world and how it acts and interacts. It's true. It's a cold world doesn't care about you. I don't think the world loves you. All that is true, you know what I'm saying. So it was like, um, but being young and hardheaded, you wouldn't figure those things out on your own, you know what I'm saying it. And like I said, you want to hit doing brick walls on your own.

That's why I say how I had I really liked dug into that knowledge that that that was being fair to me because back then, you know, like me being uh Joe's witness, I was young and you know, the the information was only reaching the surface. I wouldn't like really sitting there, you know, you know I would. I wouldn't be at the I would be in the Bible Service meeting it's like just looking at the clock saying how long? How long? Is this gonna tell you what

I'm saying. But when I got older and started like going back and like reading up and seeing I was like, yeah, it's it's it's really very very logical, you know what I'm saying. So it was like and like I said, a lot of what they were saying was true. So it was just like I just thought to like look at things like in a different light, you know I'm saying, like, look at them things in a different light. And just grew up mentally, man Like just trying to grow up

like mentally and just like look at things different. So where what's your relationship now with Jehovah Witness? Well, right now,

I'm not I'm not a Jehovah's Witness. I'm not bopatized, but I still, you know what I'm saying, I still study, I still study with them, but you know what I'm saying, like and um man, just trying to you know, just trying to gain this much knowledge as I can and compared to what's going on in the world, you know what I'm saying, And just that's just how I'm comparing it. Like seeing what's real and what ain't real? For real,

I should ask this question, but what is Jehovah? Like? What? What? What? Uh? What? Just the meeting of Jehovah's witness with Jehovah. Jehovah is actually if you go go back and do the research, it's actually the name of God. Everybody like thinks that God is God's actual name, but it's not. It's just a title. God actually has a name, and God says that, like, in order to really know him, we have to know his name. And his name is Jehovah. And like his name I used to actually be on the money back

in ancient times, but they removed it. They removed his name from the Bible, like his name was in the Bible over seven thousand times, but they removed his name and they replaced his name with titles like Lord and God and Almighty and stuff like that. So they tried to how they identity of who God really is. So that's what your witnesses are. But Muslims say that his name is a lie. But if you look at the if you look at the if you look at the the definition for a lot of the translation for a

lie translate God. Yeah, that's not it. It ain't. That's a title. A lie is a title. It's not a personal name, just like a king or you know, a king or president. Those are titles. So let's say I'm a Christian, Well, let's say I'm a man of God, and uh, I just don't believe in this Jehovah thing. But I believe in God, I just don't. I have a difference in opinion on what exactly his name is. Can I get to Heaven? Yeah? What? What the what

the thing is? Like? Joe's just don't like you don't like tell people, don't They don't try to persuade people like what they should or shouldn't be, or tell you that you're not going to heaven and hell. Jehovah's witnesses

don't even have the it's crazy, it's not crazy. But they have the belief that only a hundred and forty or four thousand chosen people are going to heaven and the rest of the people ares are supposed who God chooses is supposed to remain on Earth forever in a different situation though not like we see the earth now, but like in different circumstances because God's original purpose when he created us was the man to live forever on earth.

The only reason that was messed up is because what the devil done and like the monkey wrench he threw in the game. So but it says that God's are really no purpose has never changed. He still wants humans to live forever on Earth and turn it into a paradise eventually. And he said that that's going to happen. So if only a hundred and forty four thousand people can make it into heaven, how many do you think of that right now? Wherever that haveing? Is? How many?

How many people? What? What are the Jehovah Witness is saying the county is right no, no, no, well was for angels, like you don't said, God says, it's just just mirriads and myriads of angels. That's billions and bigger love angels. But um, as far as the husband and forty four thousand, like, we have no clue as to how many have what the county is died and when you don't saying like you don't know if it's one a hundred and forty three thousand, nine hundred nine and

nine thousands. But but but they basically go by what the scriptures said. The scriptures say that it was a hundred forty four thousand, So that's the number that you don't say. That's the number they're good with pretty much. So all you people out that is trying to make it here, and I'm gonna let y'all know right now, ain't enoughing room for all to y'all. I don't care what y'all got going on. I don't care how faithful

you've been. Some of y'all ain't gonna make it. But see, this is the thing though, like se conceived that people people lack the understanding of what God's original purpose would God's original purpose was for people to live forever on earth. You don't want to live forever on earth. They want to dying over to heaven. But but like if if if if they but see they you have to understand

what the conditions on earth would be. It's not going to be like we see it, like like God made us like like like when he made this, we were never supposed to grow old, to die, gets sick. None

of this was supposed to happen. We're supposed to live eternally forever like and what messed it up again when when Adam and Eve chose to they chose to be disobedient, be disobedient, but they were influenced by the devil, and God told them, like you know what, saying like like, y'all can have ever lasting life all this if you don't just just don't eat from this trick. So the reason why is because they willingly chose. They willingly chose to just a big God. The devil influenced them, but

he didn't make them. He didn't make him like he influenced them, and they thought he told them that they would be like God, and they believed it, and they ate the fruit and they do. It's kind of like what's happening right now in society. A lot of evil, wicked people at the top who are sending orders down and saying, this is how y'all need to behave, this is what you need to support, this is what you need to be doing, and if you don't do it, then I'm gonna wreak havoc on you. It's gonna be

bad for you if you don't jump on board. You must think the way we want you to think. And if you don't do that then we're gonna do this to you. And a lot of people seem to be so afraid of the boogeyman that they'll compromise whatever morals they do have so that they they're not exiled, you know, so that they're not ostracized. Yeah, it's hard. Why do you think it's so hard for people to stand for

something like they say? Okay, I see a lot of people changing their their views and their morals based on society or norms, whatever society says, that's what we're doing now. Then they just switched. No matter what they thought or how they felt. It didn't happen internally for them. It's just something that they saw that they heard they tuck in from Because man, that that goes to show that people need a leader. God created us, like God created us to depend on him. But we're depending on humans

and that ain't working. It ain't never worked. We keep listening to what they say. Humans have lied to us over and over again. God has not lied to us one time. Everything that he said, what's going to happen and it comes true has happened. And and choose there is evidence. I guarantee you the things in the Bible

can be proven. I guarantee you. And like we constantly give man these chances over and over again, they constantly slap us in the face, constantly go down to these pose and you vote over and over again for these empty promises. I don't care who it is. If they're humans, they cannot that. They cannot change what's going in on. Man is in over their end, over their heads, is already beyond them. What's going on in the world now. They cannot reverse what's going on right now. The only

person that's going to change this is God. That's bottom line. Like and and people need, people need a leader. But they're following the wrong They they they they following man, which is the wrong leader. Like you know what I'm saying, because man don't even know how to lead itself. They can't. Like these these people that's leading us, the people in the White House, they they still be so busy arguing amongst themselves and they ain't got time to tend to us.

They arguing about power, what we need. That they don't give a damn about what we need because they they're focuses on who's going to keep the power. That's all they care about. And in the meantime, all the people suffer, but they keep playing this game with us, going and vote for this one. He got your back, No, we don't,

And it ain't that. Some of these people ain't got your back when they give vote, it ain't nothing they can do because when they get in, you get all these other people over here fighting against what they want to do, and it never gets done. So we played this cycle. This cycle goes on and on and on, bro, and people keep voting for the same cycle instead of like, Okay, look I'm gonna just wait for God. I'm not you know what I'm saying, like I don't see what y'all

going to do. Like I don't see what y'all can do. It's nothing since the beginning, since man has rude over man, it has been nothing period. It ain't nothing they can do. Man said a mouthful with that one exactly. There's nothing they can do. So do you vote? No, not even locally. No, don't vote, don't get involved with politics, don't because there's nothing they can do. It's it's it's like I heard people saying, you know, um not where it ain't no

good candidates, So I just picked my poison. So so so so you mean to tell me like this, this, this, this kind of stuff is life change, and like it's like that's that's you wouldn't go to purchase a house and they had two options that you didn't like, you would wait till you found the option that you like. Like God, God has already given us that option. We just overlook it, the option that's been there. These people that pose up here, man, all they do is lie

to us. They know, they know they cannot help people the way they say care. So so hey we must get in and get we can get out of it while we can everybody else's to do it. Yeah, I think on a local level, and I do vote, but I think especially on local, local, local levels. I think that if you want to see some media immediate change on a local level, uh, you can move the needle.

You can really move the needle on on a local level because local local politicians, Uh, you can walk right up to them when you have an issue and say, hey, I need this done. Moan won't. And that's not as much red tape to get things done. And so like

I mean, I've seen I've actually seen it done. I've seen it in the move many many times I've actually been able to make make the phone call and say hey, uh, I need this one wump and then the next day it's done the same thing with with me giving advice to certain people who need that needle to move, who needs somebody in that position to make a decision, we can get those decisions made, I mean almost immediately, whereas on a national level, Uh, you know, these guys are

pretty much running popularity contest, and they're just they're like the boss. They're like the boss of the business who comes in and just do a walk through. You don't really do any work. They say this, that, this could, what's happening, what we did, how much money we need? Uh, we always do it like this. We do it like that, and then you know, uh, and then when things go bad, he just shows up as the face too get people inspired or whatever, to rally the base or whatever. But

other than that, he really does nothing. And to me, I personally just believe that president's popularity contest, it's it's all about the guy who you can stand and look at and listen to for the next four day years because they all have they are there's an agenda, right, and they got to get in line with that agenda, and if they don't, they're gonna get their heads knocked off. They ain't. None of them as cold as as we think they are, None of them is powerful as we

think they are. Yes, they have some influence, they have major influence, but they're gonna get more out of their presidency for them then we are gonna get from them being president. They got That's why every time. That's why. You'll have somebody that's a billionaire who will run for president and put himself under all that scrutiny and have his light shine on his family and we get an answer people and people talking about them, calling them names,

death threats and all that stuff. While with somebody who is a billionaire run for a position that only pays a half a million dollars and they're under all that scrutiny and they have people attacking them on a daily bay people want them dead. That's because they're going in there for the bridge exactly. They want that money, but in the sacrifice that you know what they're doing it for, like for real, they go there, they're going in for

the bread man. Just like you said, it's crazy, yeah, no, no, no, And I get what you're saying, like on the local level, it is good, you know what I'm saying. It's good to have those outlines because of what you know, I have a nonprofita organization cause spread the love that I'm trying to build a bone. Threesn't hard. Harmony academy like schools are like we're teaching like these these these junctions like skills of the industry and just like not only

like music industry skilled, but life skills this period. You know what I'm saying, It's just like so so I've been like shaking hands with a lot of you know, like counselman and like the merits and stuff like that. But the but, but but the thing is, I'm careful not to become too indulge with it. You know, I understand that I have to go through these people, and I explain to people, you know what I'm saying, like

I cannot. I've been asked several times times to endorse this one of that one, and I had to decline. But I was able to still keep the relationship with them because they're respectfully you know, they understood the angle I was coming from. You know what I'm saying, So so far it's worked for me, you know I'm saying, but I don't plan to like go out and vote

for anybody or like take any side. I'm going to remain neutral, man, because it's just like I said, Like, it's like, um, I understand they're like at the end of the day, Like just like I was saying earlier, like God is the only one that can undo everything that man has done. Like it's just like that's just what it is. I mean, that's just how it is. And I'll be willing to bet my life on it that it's not gonna happen until he steps it. Let's talk about Easy, Yeah your mentor Easy was one of

the pioneers of hip hop. Yeah great, one of the greatest to ever do what he did, and in an executive position, he he created two of the greatest groups of all times. Easy gave us in w A and Bones. Doesn't harmony in your group, dude. You guys saw that out Easy specifically to sign to his label. Usually when somebody's trying to get on, they don't care who exactly, they just want to get on. But y'all saw it

out Easy Eat for why specifically why Easy Man? It was just like you know, because we was into um Man, we was into like the you know, I mean we we we We was raised off the East Coast hip hop. You know, we was raised off that. You know what I'm saying. Um that's where I love for it came from. But when when Easy and Easy and in w A came out on the West Coast, just like we related to them like more than we did with the East Coast because like we was living that lifestyle. We was

out there like hustling. We was like we were attracted to that lifestyle for some reason, way more than the East Coast. So that's what we started, you know, like we we we we became big fans of n w A and Easy and we followed everything they did. And when they went through the breakup and you know, Cube left and then Dr Dre left and then Easy was looking like the underdog, we was like, yeah, we want to go sign with the We want to go sign

with the underdog. You know what I'm saying. Because everybody was like you know what I'm saying that everybody was this and the East. So we're like, yo, man, Easy needs somebody on his team. So yaas y'all was trying to get on ye rappers. But at the same time, y'all was down to put in some work for Easy. Oh yeah, bro for real, bro, like no, like Easy had to tell us like to chill out so many times, like yo, y'all, y'all just chill out. I don't want y'all involved when none of his beef stuff got a

whole different playing for y'all, you know what I'm saying. Like, so he really kept us out of that. I mean, you know it was it was it was altercations. It was verbal altercations. We had you know what she read into this one of that one. You know what I'm saying, You know what I'm saying. But nothing really like nothing really physical really ever jumped off, you know. I thank God because you know what I mean, Me and corrupt.

We talked about this all the time, like how we really would have liked tried to take one of them, you know, like each other's head off at that time, like if someone would have jumped off, you know what I'm saying. So it was like glad nothing jumped off like that. So blessing for real, Yeah, tell us something about it, Easy, Since we had a such a short time, but Easy, you know, Easy died. I think Easy was thirty one when he died or something like that. Yeah,

I think it's Easy was very young, damn. And it still tripped me out that he was so young when he died because he was so knowledgeable. He was so so hit a hit of his time, definitely, And so we don't really have a lot of personal moments Easy.

Tell us something on a personal level of personal moment that you add with Easy that would probably like you know, just uh maybe surprised people or yeah, just something that would that would uh you know, inspire people, or just something that you think that would be cool for people to know about him. Man. I just man, I just

think you know, it was just um. He was just like a real like lay back, like quiet dude, quiet to the point of like you know what, something like he like on some sneaky ship, like always pull otting on the next move. He was a hell of a visionary. He was always thinking about the vision you know what I'm saying, Like like people don't even know like our first our first album cover, our first ep, like people

don't have come up. He shot all those pictures like we used to be in the car with the nig and the niggle like he would he would pull over and be like, y'all get out the cargo still over him, like like we get off the car and go still over there and ship. We'd be like okay, and you put out this digital camera and like they had like

going up on roofs and see each other. But he was okay, now y'all running running, Y're running from the police, and took off the roof and we and the more people like running in the most, like jumping off the sit like he had us out there life and he shot like everything, like the covers, like even even the album cover, the creeping on the come up of us like standing there, we we shot. He shot those pictures

of us at his video shoot for that song. Um any last words, I think it was he shot that those pictures at at his video shoot and that was the album cover. Like so he was a real vision name like all that, like all that stuff that was inside our albums, Like I tell people, like all that all that mysterious crazy ship that we didn't know what the hell they were. He had all that ship in the album going out on the on the inside of

the album cover. Last his vision was like crazy. And he always told us like when he first like like we knew we we knew he was into us when we first got the county, when he when he paid for us to come back to county after we met him, and he paid for us to come back to California, and we went to the office and the girl there was the receptionist who actually hooked it up for us to talk to him like we were. We went in there and she was like, oh, ship, we heard y'all

supposed to be the ship. You know what since we looked into it like oh ship, easy saying everybody were the ship, you know what I'm saying, Like, so we was hyped. So he knew from the jump, like he that's why he told us like I don't want y'all in no drama. Y'all gonna be on a whole different level than anybody in this music ship, you know what I'm saying, Like, so just stay focused on that funk, all that street ship now, all that whenever it was in the past. Just stay focused on this. That's just

the PAS. But you know, of course us young, we're like okay, man, cool, cool, fuck that, you know what I'm saying, we're on this dumb ship right now, you know what I'm saying. So, but yeah, man, he would, he would. He was that dude. And by him like dying so fast, like you know, we were we was only went in for like a year or maybe even less than that before he passed away. So it was it was real crazy for us because it was like, Okay, we woman that we're struggling. Next minute we made Easy.

We had the number one single on the radio. Next minute he did, so it was like, oh ship, this then came and went like then he was like it was it was crazy. We didn't know what was you know, like what was in the plans for us, and like it was just crazy. It was. It was. It was a real crazy moment at that time. Where were you when you found out Easy was dead? Man? I was. I was in Cleveland because we had just got like our first uh they gave us like our first it

was advanced checks advancement. We got like like like almost two hundred thousand, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, like to us, we see we ain't never at the dance we go back to that. I was like we balled and like yeah, yeah, no, no peace. You know I'm saying, like so we go back, you know what I'm saying that we go back, and like we like don't even understand how much money we had, you know

what I'm saying. Like, so I'm at home and like like stuff was just funny because we would be calling easy and like like nobody told us what was going on, Like they just told us that he was you know, he wasn't around because when they gave us the checks,

he didn't even give us the checks. Like some attorney Ryan Sweeney, he came and he gave us the checks and they was talking some crazy ship to us, like trying to manipulating brain was he was like give us a guy damn checks and saying like we didn't listen to none of that ship where it's easy. Yeah yeah, we're like words easier and we're like they're like, um,

but they never told us. So then I'm at I'm at the house with my um with my girl at the time, and like she could you know, she she from l A. And like she get a car from one of her home girls in Cleveland, I mean in l A. And she's like yo, they they saying out here. The Easy got aids out here on the news and and and asked me. I was like, I ain't heard

it about it. So the very next day I turned on MTV news and I see the dude like, you know, like talking about Easy about him being hospitalized with with full blown a's and I'm like, yo, I'm like, yeah, this is crazy. It was crazy, like so my phone could the ring and blowing off the hook. Everybody's calling. I'm like, you know, it was crazy, and wishing lay

Wishing Lazy. They were still in California at the time, and they even went to the hospital of the scene and then they said they barely got in because they wouldn't letting nobody in the same I guess the family headed on lockdown. They woudn't let nobody in and it was just crazy. Mm hmm. Was there a funeral, Phazy? I can't remember. Yeah, yeah, it was the funeral. No, I didn't, I didn't go to the field. I think uh some of the members went to the funeral. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

I'm sad, day man. Yeah, that's sad. I know that you were hard hitting basically like you you want them type of Peters persons and don't matter what somebody said. You gotta see it for yourself. You gotta find that they tell you something bad, don't do this. You gotta find that for yourself because they have a moment where Easy pull you to the side. It was like listen, crazy man, look you gotta do it this. Well. Uh, when he warned you about something, you know and you

know you behavior or whatever. Man, he was always tending. He would always be like, man, y'all niggas need to come down because now we were so hyper and like we was like, um, we were just just didn't know what to expect. And you know, like I mean, we even flipped on him one time about five thou dollars we did a show or Easy about five dollars you know, because like we did a show and we knew we were supposed to get paid, but we never get paid, and like we was like, yo, we flipped, like where's

the money? And all the reason we flipped because like you know, you know, the rumor that was going around, you know, like Easy, what's like you know, he was doing his homies or whatnot. So like that ship, that ship was in our head. We was like, yo, funk

that we ain't gonna be played like that. You know what I'm saying That we like blew the ship all out of proportion, man, and the money who happened had already been like secure for us, and like we just didn't understand the whole business ship like so like he just told us a lot, like while he was here, Man just told us, like, you know, like to just count down. It was to the point where we'd be walking in the mall with him and like dudes would be staring and we, man, what's these nis looking at

like ready to fight this day? And easily black man ain't looking at y'all, they're looking at me. But you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. Just crazy like that, Like that's how wild we was and just like just like it's just crazy. For clarity, let's go back to this guy. I think he said he was an attorney, guy named Sneedy sneety or something like that, sneety Ron Ron Sweeney, Oh, Ron Sweeney. Yeah, So he tried to turn y'all again it's easy, not basically turn this against easy.

He came in talking to us like you know what I'm saying, talking to us like he was the new person and and play. Now you know what I'm saying, You're gonna be seeing a lot of me ruthless records. Is gonna be doing going in this direction and be like Nigga, who then is you? We we can't talk

to you the whole time we've been here, Who is you? Like, we didn't even understand why you're the one that's giving us these checks, but we'll take them, I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, I know his phone calls after that, yeah yeah, yeah, but we we I mean, I mean we had to deal with him because we found out that this was you know, after you know, his wife took over the company to mecause this was her attorney for a while.

So you know, we ended up having to deal with him for a while, you know what I'm saying, Which was really like those whole everything after that after the easy passed was was was very rocky with the label most of the time. Did you have personal conversations with Tamika there? Yeah, we did, but but you know, I think um may again about us being young not understanding the BIS and this we was just like very biased, just like who was this bitch? Like we're not about

to listen to you, who is you? Like, no, like we we when feeling what's going on. So it's like that kind of took the relationship to where we rebelled and they was like okay, Sucky was saying, and it was just like that kind of relationship for a while until we had to come to terms with them and like just make the ship work to move forward. Right, So up until that moment, you really didn't know to

because y'all hadn't met before. I mean we met it before because Easy had took us to his house, you know, like for barbecue, any business. No no, no, no, no, right, let's talk about this show you used to have on YouTube, Truth of Talks, right, So that was a conspiracy show, right, No, it wasn't a conspiracy. So so this is what I tell everybody. I started off going down this road of the conspiracy, like looking into these things and like you know,

like I started talking about them. But as I did further research, man, you know what I'm saying, I started to see like that some of these things has never been proven, some of these things are just speculation. Some of this stuff, you know what I'm saying. Like, so I backtracked and like changed the the concept and the content of the whole show to where like I'm basing it off like pure facts and things that I know to be true and things that are happening. You know

what I'm saying. I don't want to go off speculation and leave nobody down the wrong path. And then you know that people be looking at me like I'm crazy. So I'm sticking with the facts of what you know what I'm saying, what's going on, Like some of that stuff is like crazy, but like I said, I've never

seen no actual facts of some of this stuff. I wouldn't put it past these people to be doing this stuff, but again I've never seen it, like just just like I wouldn't put it past that there is a Illuminati, but again I've never met or seen nobody for the motherucking Illuminati that I know of, you know what I'm saying. So it's like I said, so I don't know, but for real, So why do you stopped the show? Sounds like nothing, no no, no, no no, no, we didn't

stop the show. We're in the middle of like switching networks. So so once I'm off with this twy with TLC and we go back to Kelly, like we're getting up to like spit out like some more episodes like definitely and not getting any pushed back from YouTube with that type of show, you know, I know they don't like yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. They red flagged a few episodes, like for sure. They they they read flagged a few of them and like blocks block some of the things.

Like so it was like it was it was crazy. And then I learned at the time, anything you said about Trump, they were like waiting out. I hain't that something. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, anything said about him, They're taken it like red flag. Immediately, I'm like, damn, okay, it's crazy. Yeah, So are you you have any playing to like get into Hollywood besides I side up doing the show, you know, like man the movies or something

like they seem like, man, do that movie thing. Yeah, man, you know, I mean, you know, I want to like do do like a little bit of action. But they're like, you know, I'm saying it really gotta I'm trying to do it, Like I'm not trying to be I don't nobody else's terms you know what I want to I want to be more on the production side of things and the directing side because I write scripts, I write like TV shows, like all types of stuff, you know saying.

So it's like I'm trying to do some stuff that like that I can't control because the end of life and I had me looking like a buffoon. I'm looking like no eaty and looking like doing something I'm not, you know what I'm saying, just going to ship and outs of my integrity, I'm not. I don't. I don't care about the famous stuff all like that, you know what I'm saying. It's like for all the money for that matter, Like so I'd rather just wait till I could do it like the way I want to do it,

you know what I'm saying. Yeah, really, any of your kids involved in the entertainment industry every lass like sing and like all the my boys wrapped like the into it to some capacity, like my two younger, like my two youngest are the only ones like my my my fourteen year old wants to be an actress, and my thirteen year old. She's the only one out of all of them that want to play sports, like you know what I'm saying, the only one at all of them.

So I was like, it's great any kids that you have that wants to be a rapper or singer, but

it ain't really good. Uh oh yeah and no, no, no, I I told them that when they wasn't good, and they actually got better, you know what I'm saying, Like that that definitely got better because you know what I'm saying, like, man, it's hard when you have kids, you know, and even though they're my kids and I have a certain taste for music, they have their own identity and they came up in this generation, you know what I'm saying, So like this is what they relate to, you know what,

Like we have to we have to keep that in mind, Like we can't control everything that they're seeing here. You know, like they they like this is their own generation. You know, they have to find themselves. They can't. They can't sound like me. That's why I never push none of my kids to be in music, none of them. I'll let them like come into that on their own, you know what I'm saying. Like, so now now that they're doing it, I'm like, like just just just trying to be original

as you can, you know what I'm saying. And they like which but by them coming up in this genre, you know, like it's they got to find that balance of being original a sounding like everybody else. I'm trying to get them to understand that sounding different is always

doing no matter what everybody else is doing. Make everybody look at you, you know what I'm saying, Like for real, Like, don't just ride the way to make your own damn wave, Like for real, man, I can't even think of a better note to end this, this whole conversation on man, you said be different? Hey man, y'all did that? Did that bone one of the most unique groups, one of the best they ever do it? And you know you played a significant role in that, And we're we're grateful. Man.

Man was love, bro. We got it from the best, y'all. Y'all boys, Man, we got it from we learned from the best. How y'all did it? Y'all? Was one of our favorites to go to boys in w A all day long, for real, broyeh No. At some point, you know, the people, the student becomes the teacher, A good student becomes to teacher exactly. Hey man, y'all, I'll teach us now. Man, They out there watching, y'all, they're listening from y'all. They

learn it from y'all exactly. Yeah, Legacy secured Ladies and gentlemen, Crazy Bone. This episode was produced by A King and brought to you by The Black Effect Podcast Network at I Heart Radio