The Gillie Da Kid and Wallo Episode

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to see it. We have right now. We had to point in over return, Yeah, come in and uh. We had the point of number cranking sh up he's so hard on. You can't funk man. He's another he's a fucking nut. You can't come on, man, I don't pay no attention. Actually I really don't. Sleep. Y'all don't see all the extra ship that go on before the camera come on. So they just looked like when you got to deal with this motherfucker for on a daily basis,

crazy man, and he's still trapped in prison. Everything was doing back to the prison, when I was in jail, When I was in jail, when I was in jail, Letten, listen, you kind of get just relating to journeys in my life. If you say something to somebody talking to you about something, you want to talk about the moment where you feel it though you read something or you know something. Yeah, I'm connected with the moment of oh yeah, I remember I was in the joint and we had a conversation

with somebody about that. Fuck you're talking about some ship. So I'm gonna talk. I'm gonna related to him. I'm talking about Wilder man sleep, I'm talking about when y'all gambling playing basketball. You suck with him because a lot of times he talked himself into them ass whippings, he be the one. What you want to bet and all that dumb something like, Bro, I seen I've seen Gilly hit a sixty ft and a goal about this day on you dog. Yeah, he's been practicing. And then my

a c l been tendered. So it's a lot of ship. It's like it's you know, nig had more excuses than they got. They got disrupted while that go, you know, surgery ship none unless absolute pleasure to have y'all y'all coming, Bro, you know when the o gs come, you know, you know, you know, I'm a hip hop storian, so this is always good for me, your contribution to hip hop. A lot of young cats probably don't even know how powerful

y'a was. And how you know when I when I see Willie go off on on Instagram, whenever he's saying some ship, I'm looking at it different. The reason I'm looking at it different because Willie was saying some ship when it wasn't. Poperless ship might on your door. When you say some ship, uh to a lot of young people,

y'all gotta understand. Uh. If y'all go back and y'all listen to Resurrection, y'all listen to the Point of No Return, where you know with J Prince come on there here on the phone call talking to like Hoover and uh, it was like they was taking off on. This is one of the greatest songs to get a boys to me, this is one of mine's personally, y'all had a lot of ship, but this was one of the greatest songs

because it was so informative. The information. It was like black history, Uh, the slaughter of black It was just so much in Willie verse. You know, he come on and he just go to crazy el Hoover. I wish you wasn't there so I could put a bullet in your motherfucking head. Got damnag, motherfucking drag queen. I wish you didn't put it hit on Mark Luther King, Fred Hampton,

mackolm and the other ran that pomp motherfucker. It was just he didn't Willie didn't get I gotta get Willie slis because because Willie was like this, it was no Instagram like then people could have knocked on his door on some other ship. See, I didn't know that will WILLI just was this motherfucker. But he was educating us through rap, and it was so much passion and it was like he was pissed the funk off, like you motherfucker's you know. And then and then and then with

one of my favorite parts was legendary. It was a legendary and it was like and it was like the fact that j Prince would even give that exposure and get him a vehicle to be able to vent his struggle that he was taking place in the system, it was like nobody would do that because motherfucker's be scared to touch that. And he's he's buried in the prison and he's like, yo, man, he's trying to stop my family.

The clothing they trying to do that. And Jay said, man, well listen, you know we're gonna do We gotta sell it through the albums. We're gonna sell it through this back when they had the tapes and you had the pee old box and you had the clothes and the tapes. Remember you fold the ship over this story a story

you're because when you folded it's multiple panels. You had the credits, you had who did the beat, who mixed it, who engineered the ship, you had anything, the fan club information, so so it was real and it was like Willie was just like so when I see Willie on the join, motherucker may see a motherfucker' saying something to have in their opinion. You know, you're talking about the motherfucker that was on the front line when it wasn't no line. Yeah,

Willie has always been like that. And I want to introduce the world to uh to Willie Dee's first solo album, Controversy, and you'll see how far I had his time that Willie was because his first fucking album is unbelievable. And you know, I don't, I don't, I don't care a lot of hip hop in my in my in my phone, but I got his album in there, you know. And and and his album meant so much to me on my rise on meeting me getting into the game, because this album was already out when I got with the

Ghetto Boys. Okay, it's a little hip hop history since she loved it so much. Did you know that when I joined the Ghetto Boys, Willie d had an album get ready to come out already and his project was so influential to me and on me until you know, I wanted to, you know, make music like that. I wanted to make raps like that. I wanted to be apologetic, you know, fuck y'all. And that's how his first album, well,

I don't give a funk about none of that. The welfare bitches, fu the KKK fuck to all that ship. You gotta hear Willie Dee's first album controversy, and it was a huge influence on on on on the way my ship sound. Even today, I'll still take some of that ship that Willie said maybe, like, yeah, I gotta get some of that ship on my ship. You said when you came to the Ghetto Boys, So who was the Ghetto Boys before you came to the Ghetto boy I let Willie answer that question. He knew all in there,

so when when when he that was? That's been like four different from um, that's been like four different installments of the Ghetto Boys before before yeah, before me and Brad came. Uh. They very first started off with this a single called car Freak and that that was Yeah, that was that was ju box, Um, that was Johnny C never made the records. It was started for K nine, But can I end up getting arrested to K nine is not even on any of the albums any covers

or nothing singles. Nothing. So the very first installment was Raheen ju Box and Johnny C. That's car Freak. And then the album, the first album, Making Trouble was Ready Red juke Box and Johnny C. Right, and Bill is on the cover. But he wasn't rapping. He was just a dancer at the time. So he was Bill was a dance. He would just he come out and warmed the crowd up, you know, and he was Yeah, I would never Willie he was. He was so so yeah he turned it out, jump up that and get on

that stage and just just got a food. But yeah, he he would turn it out. You strip out that party one year, right, Yeah, he got naked one time, not on stage, on the stage, but he was the corner. But I didn't know what I was doing that It's crazy. I didn't willingly get naked. Yeah, So that that was so So they only had put out one album before we came in. I thought it was Johnny C in the group. Okay, so that's the that's the first thing. Okay,

that's okay, So that's Canine. So it was Canine, uh Jukebox and Ryanan Okay, that was the first okay, my bad, my I stand corrected. Okay, so that's the first and then on the album cover they're making Trouble album. Ended up buying a carbro car freak. Yeah there making Trouble album. Um when I got some money, uh custom. So for the making Trouble album, cana I went to jail and cana I was replaced with Prince Johnny C. And so you had Prince Johnny C juke Box and Ready Red

and Bushwick was you know on the cover. Yeah. Right. So when I came in, I started off as a writer for the New Ghetto Boys project, but Jay like what I was doing so much he asked me to join the group. Okay, so because I wrote letter who Bia Hoo and do It Like a Jail? Those were the first two songs I wrote for Ghetto Boys and Jay liked it. He liked what I was doing, and he like this this direction I want to go in.

Because if you listen to that first album that car that the Making Trouble, you know it kind of sound. It was kind of sound like some run DMC style boy. So when I came in, I was like like doing like a g o, you know, like I came in, you know, uh just going off going like that, and he was like, yeah, that's the direction I want to take the group in. So he gave the two guys in the group and all tomatic, hey man, either y'all get with this program or y'all can go solo. But

this is the way I'm going. Prince downc decided immediately he was gonna go solo. Juke Box decided that he was gonna be in the group, but so he was initially was supposed to still be in the new the next installment of the group, but when we all got together, j told me like, hey man, I got this other guy from the South Side, uh name DJ Action. He was talking about Brad because Brad was called DJ Action back DJ before all that ship. Yeah, I didn't scratch

like you wouldn't believe. I DJ the coming parties. It doesn't matter in prison, but go ahead that no, no, no, I used to make not I mean to cut you off. I used to make mixtapes and I used to I used to DJ offer tapes. No I did too, man like Oak say, see that's that's when my Jackie was not and I just played a tape jacket radio yeah, and you put the paper going in front of and then you blind like that. Yeah, I did that ship so so obviously wasn't blood that good outside in here?

Because I didn't. I didn't grow up DJ and I didn't not. I ain't gonna do no, no no, no, just you gotta stand And they grew up stealing cars. Go ahead, some real ship. He didn't grow up. Listen to rapt this last listen this motherfucker tell him the first tape you had, but now I used someone else? The first rap when you use all this nice when for real man here that was in your first da first date was be but you have vanill Ice too. I don't know what you're talking about. He want to lie scarf

like you have enough? You want to fight me? Even if that was what front on the name like that in front of the what's the first tape? That's the first take? Listen to uh, the first tape I was listening to was did you own it? Vanilla Ice? Save just bed? Did it happen to be home on coming out? So you don't want the two else is in the household? That may have been nobody else he was he was the oldest. Nobody else could listen to rack. She could

listen listen to money. Right there, you magically had the Vanilla Ice in w Was you cruising in your five point, you know, with the ragtail down so your hair could blow? No, yes, she was. He was listening to fucking Ice Ice speaker. Wait a minute, wait, wait, wait while you remember you know the words ynxiety, right, I didn't know the worst. Give me a pack? Come on, man, you know the worst? To come on, man, you cannot said the same words over it was you was listening to it. I got

a story about Vanilla the story. So when I used to battle, I started off as a battle rapper and Vanilla as Vanilla Ice, used to come from Dallas, him and a couple of black dudes. They would come down periodically and get in the rap battle contest. And the rap battle was twofold. It had one one part of it was first you had to qualify by just doing a regular rap, and then if you made it to the next round, then that's when you rank on each other. So I would always end up in the battle rap

part of it. Vanilla Ice would do his part. And you know, I ain't trying to rag on a dude or nothing, but you know it was lack luster, you know what he would said to qualify. But they wanted him because he had a swag about himself, in a confidence about himself, and he really felt like his ship was doper than everybody and ship. He just had that type of a ship. And people wanted to see him in the battle rap part. So they will cheer for him to get into the battle rap part, no matter

what he said in the regular part. And he's coming to that battle rap pot and Ki lit the funk up and and and so that's how I knew. I knew him from way back then when he before he got on, Jake let me hear his demo, that ey sized baby. I heard the demo and he asked me, I didn't just hear it. I saw the VHS tap of it. I saw him performing on stage and if they're dancing, and he asked me what I was kids, I don't understand it was a VCR, I asked him. And when he asked me what I thought about it,

and I said, he white and you can dance. I signed him, you know, Oh so j Prince had a chance to sign h Yeah, he missed it. He missed it. Damn Yeah, he was like he said, I said he, I said he white. Actually, I said he white. He can't wrap that good, but he can dance. I signed him and ship man. It wasn't even two months later. I said, man, it was ice ice baby will don't do it everywhere? And he hit the song. He anybody knew that boys for the fans, Dude, don't put me

in that ship. He don't put him. Did he notice me and that ship? He probably he probably he noticed that. I'm that you At least one time we got splitting. The came out to speaking. But you know what, Man Vanilli is credit man. I really do have to give him credit. He had what it took to get into the game. You know, he had hustled everybody. You know, he had hustled everybody else, and he had he had

supreme confidence in himself. So this is when other people didn't really care for him, and other people like laughing, and he was like, yall, he just didn't care what everybody else was saying. It was like he was numb to it. He was deaf to what everybody was saying. He's like he got in the lane and he just put those hearts blind his own and he just went forward. So I give him credit for that. If he didn't

have that, he probably wouldn't have made it. But a lot of people, a lot of a lot of people got after kind of like, uh, play a mind game with themselves, you know, makeum believe themselves as more than actually what they are. Because did that? But I mean because because at the end of the day, you already felt as though. I didn't even feel that. I just felt like I was. I was trying to get in while where I fit in, and I wouldn't. I wouldn't

overly fucking think I can wrap like a motherfucker. Yeah, I don't think you will, he will not think, but I don't. He wasn't like that in the beginning. But when his ship got hot, are you over that? You have some growing it? He didn't let you have some growing to do? Face listen, listen. Oh So when did it? What's the air part? You? Memanb We always just on Brothers Club. He said, ain't nobody fucking with me? I said, don't know, nobody want to funk with me? Where did

that come up? With the energy? Ye? When you energy? Na, It wasn't back then, right, now that nah, that that energy started, he isn't that energy probably started in ninety two. I'm just I'm just you know, you gotta have that kind of intality. What I was listening to catalog like I robed my son man, and We'll be listening to my catalog and I'll be like, you know what, Chris Well,

I was a bad motherfucker. And this one morning y'all just called me on the bad because I just got through listening to my ship and he was like, who you want to do a versions with? I don't know, nobody want to with me. I just started ninth. I can go back to nine two right now, to nineteen ninety now now, and if a motherfuck you keep up with that catalog face again, that's a bad that's a mother man eight nine. When I stopped Willie sixteen, it

was a bad motherfucker. But you know one thing, face one of my favorite songs that yours, and it was just that. That's why I quit right there, cos Nika got a favorite song of mine. Well, I got you. I'm just saying, I'm I'm a I'm a fan. I got to I'm just and you if you had a h if you had a zoo. You guess you would never guess my favorite song one of them. It wasn't on a diary. I forget the name of the album. But listen, I'm gonna tell you. I know what the

name of it was. It wasn't You by Yourself? Okay, so was wasn't Nope, I'm gonna tell you my favorite joint. It was on your Your label mate was on there? Who's your label mate? Money? No, he was on Tony Draper. Suave House was on my record? Okay, so was it Heaven No? So nothing? Uh Tony was Tony didn't rap? No, No, Tony Draper had Suave House Records. That's what label he was on. I'm telling him his label. Meet you signed a suave I know you did catch to the first

come on Armed Robbery Remix. Yeah, you first person because he forgot even face forgot the Prince was the first thing they got read from ain't nor from I don't know what the funk. I was running Happy, we go, we go, I get signed the swive House, right do they don't? We're going now get it. We're gonna park a lot pimping. I'm thinking this is a fucking club man all damn like, yeah, we're gonna park a lot pimper laid on. Yeah, I mean this is ninety nine.

I've never heard of no fucking parking lot. Pimpe bro. We pull up, they get off the cars and we're chilling in the parking lot, and I'm like, I'm like to name it was the name of the club. I can remember back to what you remember what day it was, I can tell you the club it was. I think it was the weekend. So mad be sitting there and yeah, we eight balling. All the bitches is out and you know we am sorry. I put it to give the cool. And then next thing I know, motherfucker said, I think

J Prince get in the car. Gilly like, J Prince, get in the car. The nigger. I'm in the car. It's driveling like this. So I'm like, oh, man, so now I'm up under the dead. You ain't seen nobody. Now, I don't know who the fun jake Princess. Man, I ain't did nothing to nobody. I'm nobody who said you said ball? I ain't got no pistol ball and say it. Somebody else screamed out, rapping to take Prince he wos getting the carcase that happens with So when we pull the funk off and we get out of there, I

get right back to the motherfucking studio and drip. I ain't never going to the motherfun club again. Next Monte Motherfucker's had me running from a nicker named Jay Prince. Man. I never ran from a nigger in my life. Man. That was the last up about it. But it was funny part about it is Drape was laughing thinking about that. So for me, it was just like it was like I just ran from a nigger. I don't know, Like

I don't even know why we run it. You're fucking right when you see a nigger up under that stand, will you all this just ship? Some ship ray starts flying through this we got and they cook a man and ain't no cooker come out. Man, we can talk. I did the dashboard man about a nigga. I don't know. I'm never going to funk out with new niggas again. Man,

I'm sorry. Niggas for life was my introduction in Houston. Man, you said that we want the parking lot of pimp And the next thing I know, I was up under the motherfucking what's the glove of something joint pulling the funk off for no reason. I ain't did nothing to nobody. Man from Philadelphia, don't know no fuckingbody out here. Man, they had you on the mission. I'm running from the minute that you connect with Drake. I connected with Drake because uh, it was a bit and war going on

from with all the record labels up North. And then my lawyer called me and said, you you ever heard of swave House And I'm like, yeah, that's like with eight Ball and like yeah, yeah, he said, you know they just one platinum, Yeah, on a dependent. So for me it was like, okay, I already got up North as an independent. If I go down there and get with them, motherfucker's it's on. I was thinking about both sides, like, hold on, I'm an East Coast nigga already got this.

I'm already running around doing shows everywhere. If I go get with them, it's so. And when I got with Drake, Drake had that same type of mentality, like I mean, we was in a meeting up in Universal and he like he need to do something with Nellie. This is before Nellie was even out Drake was not trying to hear that ship. He like, man, I'm trying to drop this sick and now like you got good crack cocaine, you put it anywhere. I got good crack cocaine. What's

going on? Like so, but he was going through something internally with his situation. So then when he got out, yeah I got Yeah. So then when he what decided to go off a universal or whatever he did, I was doing a concert in Philly and cash money was there and that's when baby approached me, like so me and we got with Drake, We did the business, and then I want from nil over the cash money. Yeah, and that's how that happened. How didn end up with cash when I ain't sell no publishing? So you know

kind of know how that ended up. Man, I've heard a lot of your stuff, right and and and you you cold blooded with the lyrics no ship like, man, do you ever like I wrote, I roached a lot of this stuff out there. Man, I was I was one of his writers. Man, how how do you how do you how do you? How do you feel? How do you feel about knowing we're not feeling but knowing that you got what it? Texts and you want of the top dude, that's you top spitter and not having

to get up that hit that peak. What everybody know you for your music and not just some dude that you know hopped on the internet and became known whatever. Whatever. Understand I'm talking I'm talking about I'm talking universal. I'm talking about everywhere. I'm talking about where everybody know Gilly, that dude, Gilly the kid is that dude. I just want to like, there's no disrespect with but for you to say some of the things you said, I don't know if you was a little I don't know if

you had a drink. This dude was doing. He was a boy, he was a board he was too doing board tours. You're hyping. You're giving him a little too much any man, Like, No, you're giving him a lot, Like like you really I think much of talking about you. He did two tours. Bars abound the country, the neighbor with bars. This motherfucker wasn't know. He's just playing the fucking arenas or amphitheaters. You're keeping them all this, You're like what you know? You know? In defense to your

conduct and defense defense in defense of your comments. Then some of the greatest singers and entertainers and talented people playing bars every night. No, no, but I'm Willie ride with that ship, going on that ship. Your face back down off that. She was like, yeah, he's bout right. He ain't linking fighting. Man, Come on, why you keep putting me in that ship? Say listen, face, you put me in that ship here. A legend is a legend, man. Don't get sucked up these dudes giving you votes and ship.

I don't even like it felt like it felt like, you know, I knew what I was up against. So because you know, Jay tried to sign me when I when we turned that situation down because it wasn't right. You know what I'm saying. I pretty much knew what I was up against. It was up with jay Z. It was sucked up. I mean, it wasn't right. You know. When when I went to Tony Draper, you know, it was like what you want? I was like, I want half a million dollars. I want to hunt it up,

I want to hunt it up front. I want fifteen points. I want to bump a goal. I want bumping platinum drapers like I ain't never gave nobody to build Tony Draper. He said, I never gave nobody talking about man because I was in every label talking or were you talking about the fifth started fifteen and then to two? Yeah, but I was a young I was getting what right, So you know, for me it was like, uh, you know,

Drake was like, I ain't never gave nobody. I said, okay, cool, I funk with you, Drape, but I'm you know, I gotta go back to Philly. He said, you know what, you got that and then we did the business and then you know, for whatever reason, I just feel like now when I look at my life, I feel like God never gave to me through all that bullshit to get why I am right now? You feel what I'm saying. And now while Matt, while I'm at right now, I'm

gonna kick their ass. I'm I'm gonna kick their ass every day, you know, jay Z or what I'm saying, because a lot of motherfucker's had me doing security at Ross right now. You know what I'm saying. Point motherfucker's to the uh the irregular polo t s and ship. Yeah, you know what I mean, do some type of U segment of some type of where you go out and work a regular job because you just wanted to let people know that this could have been security at Ross.

Did you do what? Did you have? You ever worked for Ross before? And let you do it? Don't work? They let you do it. Yeah, working with my security jacket on and anything, just to get the feeling of what he would have been. I'm gonna do that. I stay two hours. I'm gonna go do that because I noticed where these niggers had me. Where you gonna work at ain't that's just crazy. He's not gonna go to he's doughnuts, doesn't get fat. No, I'm gonna say this.

I'm gonna take it back to this my favorite song. And jay Z is a good nigga man. He's a good man for real. I don't think jay Z is a good name. I think he's a good dude, a good man, a man. I used to don't like that. That's right, Willie. Now I'm gonna say this, you shut Tyler faces. Oh that was just a cool record to me. You know, that was just like I did that record. I was I made the bet for the record and too Short came in uh and um we we did our part at the same time. It was me and

Short and Dad because Dad was in the studio. Yeah, the whole time we would go to this must be used to all the finest thing hip hop history. He love it, Yes, I love it. Come on Rahem the bench at Anti brote that hook? Yeah, damn, how did you get right in the studio Devin to do the hook in? Raheim is from what Philly or Chicago? I think he's from Philadelphia? Maybe New Jersey? No, no, no, he's not from New Jersey. He's from New Jersey. He maybe e from Philly. I gotta ask one got checked

into that? Yeah, right is from Are you sure? How long did it take them? Like that whole studio session was was? I just no? He wasn't there, And I think that here's a thing. Uh. J Prince was signing Teeler to wrap a lot, so what better way to introduce him to He was leaving swaps, leave the swap, come in to rapp alte, so James put him on faces. At the end, it was just me, Short and Devon m He talked that ship and then Tiva came in at the end. Yeah, those beats you made it hot.

I mean this ship was crashed before you know, you know, he don't. I'm gonna just say this because you listen, I ain't gonna fund man, Like because if you look at the record, if you look at this, if you look at the record right now, you must be used to all the finding things and that's your weight to buy with money. That's right now. It was straight money, you dude going and taking a shopping I mean, you see the whole people game he knocking like you've seen

the whole games come in a ship? Yeah yeah, it was cool man. Yeah. But but a lot of a lot of um, a lot of beats that I made for that album, uh, transpired when people came in town and wanted to do some music, you know, like okay, put the headphones on. And first I was y and like I was telling annoying them like I'm I'm probably a way better producer than I am a fucking rapper, Like for real, thinks I think it beats? All right? Yeah?

He will? You be on point, man, you know you're you're fucking you know, like I feel like the beats somebody else possibly could have done. But the lyrics, nah, you're fucking lyrics. That's the ship. That's where you. That's where you really get off at, you know. And I'm gonna tell you, I think the fans agree with me because they love the beats and ship. But when people think of you, the reason why people are so dear to you is because of how you make them feel

with your lyrics, the words that you say. That is the ship that's so people on you. That ship was strong. I know that I made the beat too, Willie. Where they know now and they ain't they they're still not like that, ain't no, no, no, no, Now they fucking know that I did to be too, Willie. And they now that. Now they know that you did the beat and ship and that's cool. Hold now he got there because he needs to hear this ship. He got to

hear this. Now you got to hear this ship. Yeah, okay, Now now that they know you made the beast right, and still are they talking about you being right now lyricist or a top five producer. Get in your motherfucking lane, man and accept it. Your motherfucking beats all right, Prince. Nobody nigging your music but yourself. Kids now the best. Don't bear the motherfucker. But I can see what say like if I heard the beats and ship. If I just heard your beats and ship, I would say, Okay,

that's a dope producer, right, that's dope. It's dope's dope. Will you well the motherfucking lyrics? Bro? Will you wrapped on my ship? Man? Yeah? I did. You're like, yeah, that ship dumped in the motherfucker it is. But I ain't motherfucking you know, I'm not top five alive on the beat Ton. He never you wasn't putting it out there that you was making the beats back then because I never knew you was making the beats. Yeah, yeah, hell. He always kind of had dibbling, dabbling and ship, even

even with the ghetto boys. She pulled us some here, going that motherfucking do this. This is very very stages when he before he really took off as a producer. He's going that motherfucking you know, just heard sucking around it and he kind of like morphed in the really produce. But you really wasn't put that was more behind the scenes right that you probably you probably wouldn't know unless you read in the credits or something. That's when you know.

So he got it. He actually has a musical background and and this is why I like if you listened to like his albums versus my albums, it's it's album solo. Ship is way better than my ship production. No, yes, you just wanted to fight. You didn't want to make no fucking records. You wanted to squabble. I didn't want to squad ship. I didn't want a squad. I was

just trying to teach people, giving people information. He navigate this crazy really would make an album to get ready to go on to us so we can go out and fight. That's a lie to go out and fight. Did you see how to fight? Because that lie rolled off his tongue like people who support systemic races. It just right. I don't even like he wasn't trying to fight boyshit man. Okay, so I can count at least five fights we had on tour when when when we was on tour Public Enemy Wait, hold on wait it

Willie started all of them? Was it William wasn't then? No? No, no, no, I never had to drink to get Yeah, who was really fight with? Just whoever? Then wanted to fight? The man? Beat up the sound man will be the sound kicked them, sucking the head for touching his feet on stage. Listen. I was just defending myself. The colder ship I ever seen cold, the cold sh that I ever seen. We was in baton rouge, riding around and then somebody's like, yeah, let me out, man, let me out, Let me out. Man.

Mofucker was making an attempt to get out the limosine and really kicked them in the ass out the limosine. Comment really thinking of some ship out, He's not thinking about ship because you go ahead way out. We couldn't even stop. Good. Hey, you know when you see somebody man working, they try to clean the ship and be like, well, the thing the thing is is that this all of this ship is allegedly man, we would we would be coming home from from from the show, right and it's

so funning bad. But me and Bill didn't give a fuck. We had bitches in the limo even read too. We had bitches in the limo, man, and then we'll they be like, no, man, they can't ride in here. Who was Willy was like trying to keep it professional, keep

these guys to get caught professional. Listen. We had bitches, really, man, these dudes man, if you let them go too far Bro to far basically take it, They're gonna take it to It was the big brother cock block limousine bully riding here so here coming out of the show, y'all got all these women that he was like, they're getting limousine bully. It's the thing, man, got to the point

where we wouldn't bring no listen. I never had a problem with girls hopping into the limousine as long as that they were pretty and that was and it was spacious. Oh so you don't want to say, you know something sometimes with monkey mountains at times challenges. But this is what I'm saying. Whatever, this is what I'm saying, Nick Man, I'm not riding nowhere uncomfortable. I'm I'm fucking we We were in a limousine, man, We're supposed to be comfortable.

We're not supposed to have a whole damn club inside the limousine, people all hanging all on the floor and and and all the mage him having the same conversation with a United Airlines gate check lady in Mississippi. I think that get check lady would be appreciative. No, Willy, we got into some ship. No, no, yeah, no, we got into some ship. You got out of some ship. You started the ship and got out of it. No, this dude, we were we were in Jackson, Jacksonville, not Jacksonville.

We were in Jackson, Mississippi. This dude walks up to the kind of we we had just did a show. He walks up to the counter and he and Bill are cracking jokes about the plane going down? Oh ship? So the uh, the the what do they call those people? Who? But but this is we're talking we're talking ninety one right, so still on the planes, and we were working around the whoever the people yours is who take the ticket people? So they were like, it's a white dude. It was

a white dude, and and and a white lady. But the white dude, he had that attitude. He's like, um, y'are not gonna be able to fly to that because he said, what's going because you don't make jokes about something like that, You don't make jokes about plane going down.

So this dude start made the fucking gem him and bid joking about and and look and right as they're saying we're not gonna be able to talk and they're doing a little ship, he take off and go who who is that you left with him and breed him and mc breath they take off, they go jump on a whole nothing and jump on the plane and that goal. We have to spend the night in Jackson because because of something that he did. This dude can be at times very inconsiderate of others, and so this is what

happened to us. We had to pay for his mistake. This, this is what happens. I'm gonna say this. Don't say that, don't say ship yeah, yes, man, don't let don't let them leave here believing no ships like that will. So you didn't make no joke. I don't want to rewrite history, bro. You don't make new jokes with Bill. I ain't sunk with Bill like that. It wasn't nothing funny about Bill. Oh my god, I think you wouldn't even now I

think I was. I'm believing I'm believing him. I will say this, I will say this, will your your escape game is alleged how you escape going on to a fighting and reverse this ship to him. You're a legend reversal games. I'm just saying, like, like the ship you did on the plane, you probably got blocked the funk up these days like that ship was crazy. You don't had to make new jokes. And Bill and we got kicked off stage in Dayton, Ohio, right bigg as stage man.

A whole lot of people in the first show, the first the first big show. I'm you know, I ain't never seen a whole bunch of people like this before. Yo, and and and Willis. Did you spike the mic or did I spiked the mic? Bill spiked? Bill spiked the mic? And this white guy ran up on stage? Was spi the mike because young kids don't know Super Bowl touchdown? And white boy ran out there. Willie d gave him a ding ding wings and fries. You said he was

ready to fight ding ding? What is it? Wally shaking? Fried? What is it? Ding ding? Fries and shake? That's what you used to call your knockout sticking anybody what anybody? But I would not like, I would not advise that to our up and coming artists out that because we had to give all that money back. No, we worked for free that night. Remember we tore up the equipment that ship that was a band, equipment and stuffing on

the stage so so out out of the knockout. Y'all just start smashing ship no reason, not not really but Bill turn into just tean up everything thro TVs and we go. We go backstage. We go backstage after it was over, we go. Well, first of all, it was it was Troops manager who ran out on stage. See this is this is what happened. Troops manager, I wanted

to us to end our show early. They would have headliners, but we sold the tickets we would have wanted everybody was coming to see like because then it was Troop after seven and somebody else. Right, it was an R and B show at and they tried. They couldn't sell the tickets. They couldn't move tickets. It was like two weeks before the show and they had only sold like a couple of hundred tickets. They put us on that

and sell out. So now we know that people are that the majority of people are there to see us. So what happens is okay, tell the study I don't know your grass up, damn. So so we were on the stage and the dude, our manager, tell us we gotta wrap it up and were like, we want to perform, like we were only done twenty minutes. We got five minute show. So we want to perform for these these people who came to see us, like fun that we ain't gonna So Bill say, yeah, they want us to

end the show right now. Funk that way. Ain't none of us holes. So the dude, that's when the dude cut the mic off. Well, first he cut the lights off, then he cut the mic off. When he cut the mic off, Bill slammed the mic. The sound man come running out there, slip him. Then troops, manager come run out there. Harry Dan Dan you know, yeah, got him real good. Uh So, now we start tying up the equipment on the stage. The crowd, the drum and the crowd, and the crowd don't the crowd, don't do it. Don't

don't help the situation. They're like, oh yeah, because the crowd already met him. We gotta in the show earlier. So they're really mad, and they're all the way on our side, and and and and it's it's like pandemonium. And out of all of these people, out of all these people, like going crazy and stuff, all these noises being made, I can hear some some some girls up in the front, like this girl up in the front screen. Oh, they get o bards for real. So we go to

the backstage. We go, we go to the dressing room. We get to the dressing room. We walk in our dressing room. All the glass it's broken, you remember that part. And the grass is broken, and I dressing room broken and I dressing is in the damn dressing room, pacing

he all the motherfuck mirrors and I dressing room. So next thing you know, they got these big old Berlin six foot five white boards, these big old ass fifteen gallon hats on, and they're talking to our manager chief and they're telling him, we gotta pay for all this ship and we're going to jail. Fuck. So we had to give all that money back to go home. How much was we doing shows for back then, I don't I don't know, but whatever it was, we had to

give it all back, you know. So that that that taught us a lessons so far y'all out there, man, man, you know, don't don't get the money back. Don't give the money back, man. And also and also respect respect seniority, respect uh, respect protocol. You know, like we were not the headliners and we didn't respect the headlines. You gotta respect if you're on the undercard. You gotta respect the head I don't give a damn how good you think you are. Get board. The headline is running so and

we didn't respect it. We was like relly, just like wild and wrong. You still don't respect the head Yeah, there's our ship. No no, no, that's a lot. I respect everybody, man, But unless you know, because well you know, unless they do something like that dope ship. They need to sell that ding ding fries and shake. You got two of hamburger and some two fries and a shake. But food so good at a knock yout hold on right, I'm telling you write that ship down. You're so good.

It's like Bill had us hostage bro on tour, because we'll be trying to make Bill like the surprise that he is, and Bill will be out there in the crowd, sitting in the seat with the people, like just waiting on us to come on. Before we even get to the arena, Bill is already at the damn arena inside of the crowd, funked up trunk always. Yeah he shuck Bill, he was. He was the epitome of the word rock star. Yeah yeah, he throw fuck TVs out the fucking hotel

in crashing rooms and cut the mattresses up. It was crazy. He was a motherfucker man. What's what's the biggest difference between what where you guys are now in your careers and where you were just about maybe two years ago before you guys got thirty dollar podcast what happened? What happened was for me right now, I don't even out of penitentiary for it for four and a half years. Yeah, so but it's a short time to gain the success

that he's had. What it was is me and because because always was doing million, I was with a game, so it was something that he was doing on Instagram like, but we expanded and it was like what changes that we were still the same thing, but it's just more opportunities and you understand platforms more like what y'all have. It's not a podcasts a show. And I think Titling

you understand titlanly. You start to understand more ship, you understand brands, You understand like some people might be watching this, they understand why this ain't got no label on there. They're not paying you. So it's just so much more

game that we got in the business side. And uh, and just it tightened us up outside of you know, money, that's cool, But it's about information is king in this game, especially this game right here, when he's cut on information and understand and stuff, because it's stuff that I'm gonna tell you after this that a lot of these structural companies ain't gonna tell you because they don't want you to know, because if you don't know, you don't know your value. But I learned about value, like me, and

we talked about this all. We learned about value. We know how much we're worth. You know what I mean? If if you know, if I come to y'all and say, listen, man, I want to get y'all ten million dollars, that mean I'm I can make a hunt it, I can make fifty off you. So it's a valuation game. Is about understanding the different chains of marketing. Understanding what could sit on this table and you know, understand that somebody could put something on this table and get your half a

million dollars for a couple of episodes. Is understanding business. That was the strongest thing that I understand, especially with us owning our ship, we understand ownership and partnership. A lot of people think that, uh, you know, if this, if this bottle was, oh, I gotta give us to them for me to come up. No, I I got, I got you know, I got license thirty percent to you. But license don't mean own ship. It just means that the license, you know, you know what I mean, but

our own percent of my ship. But we're gonna license y'all can do this and do that, and we're gonna bring some bread down. So what will really changed is that information and understanding and talking to people that's in different fields to understand value, to understand other avenues to this ship. This right here, this want some real ship millioniars for the game. To us, this is our baby.

But for what we got to store this ship is practice like we were on another level like and we're gonna change the game for those who's gonna come behind us about ownership and leveling up on levels. That's fucking unimaginable from just us saying cause, come on, let's start this thing and just shooting ship and just putting it out there, and you're putting it out there to the

world for them to know understanding these different people. People deal with information different Some people like to listen to it. Some people like to see it, but we understood that, you know, especially people from our culture. We first listen with our eyes, then we listened with our ears. See this is this is the ears right, you know what

I mean. So so more people are gonna probably look at your on YouTube than they're gonna listen to you on Apple because they want to see your facial expression. They want to see what you say. Yeah, motherfucking Brad cuts to people out. He said, well, what are you're lying? It's a different thing. Everything is about the visual. Visual is more powerful than audio. So as understanding that placement, brand placement is about partnerships, ownership. That's all this ship

is about. And that's the ship that we sit back and we just went. We studied and we talked about and that makes us strong and man, make us understand the game more. And you know, when the motherfucker called, you would say, yeah, we want you to do this, we want you to do that. Yeah we got a hundred thousand for you just that third and you hang up and they called back. Damn, something happened to know we hang up? Do disrespect us like that? Ain't no sucking money? Fun is mad with you Oh no, how

do they mean to disrespect you? Are We're gonna all right, we're gonna get back with you. Yeah. And then they get back and now they're talking some stupid ship. They're talking some real because they know, like, oh, they know they're black folks. And now see a lot of black folks don't know. I'm gonna tell you something, drop some strong shot on you, and I want you to hold this on the little in the viewers. I want you to hold this on black people. We can trove cool,

but we don't own it control cool. We can troll cool, but we own it. But but but the system know how to monetize it. Like if you look at music, right, look at music, look at it. You know, we're selling the most music, but most of them executives, they don't look like us, you know what I'm saying. So it's understanding ownership, you know. I mean when you look at Tyler Perio, when you look at certain people and when

they talk ownership that should be real. A lot of people look at them like, oh, they're just tripping because the motherfucking you a motherfucker' Sai man Hecko ten million hours. But you could have made that time yourself and you could have still owned your ship. But I think a lot of times we don't know that. And and taxes is important to we tax attorneys. We make sure that because it's like, at the end of the day, it's

like we control cool. If you go back to the beginning of time, if you look at James Brown, you look at a little rich you look at all all our people. We always control cool. From the beginning of time all the way up to now. We control it, but we don't own it. When is we gonna put ownership on our coop? You know what I mean? That thing that walk willie when you just walk, it's natural. You ain't trying, it's just naturally cool. The way you're

gonna respond to motherfucker is naturally cool. We control cool, We created cool. The idea of cool would come from us and got out and the and the reality of it is is is every other race emulates the black race. You know, we could pull up a it's not a bad thing. We can pull up a bunch of videos right now where's two white boys fighting and they call on each other niggers, nigger what you want. We can't pull up no video with two black men fighting and

they call on each other crackers. Well, we just had that conversation with with with with with mark Uh Margot Norman. We had a conversation with him and he like this. This is something that he brought up first to people acknowledge that people know where time it is. It ain't no denying it, Um Wallow. When when you got out of jail, you literally hit the ground running. You started watching those videos. You took the Instagram immediately, you started

making those videos and you run towards the camera. Yo, something's let me tell you. And you just started just dropping game, telling people what's going on. Now. When people hear you talk post uh incarceration, they hear you talk, not even like right now, they hear you how you talking. People said, man, this guy here is sharp, he's smart. It makes one wonder how did somebody that's sharp get caught up in the first place, Because it was like this, Well,

and the ghetto attention is God acceptances God. And I was worshiping God coming up in the ghetto, and you know in my neighborhood when I see them dude pull up with the rope chain on with the bens. He had the Gouci's on and all that ship. I've seen that the wood. The women respect to him more than the dude that was walking home from work with a motherfucking a plumber belt on or you know, his work

shoes on. He was a square. So I had o g s that was getting money in the streets, my grandmother, and there's people my family telling me to do right, but they was outnumbered. So I came up. I came up in the streets of Philadelphia, and and I became married to the streets of Philadelphia because I wanted to be down will It wasn't that it wasn't that I ain't I ain't had no no mine. It's just that my mind ain't belonged to me. It belonged to the idea of people looking at me and accept of me.

You know what I'm saying. So I jumped in the street game. The first time I got locked up, I was eleven. Uh. I went on to keep being locked up. Spent five years in the juvenile facility, and I spent twenty years in prison. I spent more time. I spent more time on this earth incarcerated than I did free. So when you see me now and I'm living out my life. Um, when I was in jail, I woke up and I realized why I was there, and what was the switch. The switch was understanding that I was

in there. I was. I was in jail for living a lie. And the lie was that I was somebody

that I'm not. And the reason I say that I'm somebody that I'm not because I ain't gonna hold you a lot of times when I was in the street and I was growing up, and I did something on me and the homies did something on me, and cause did something, I'll laid on and be like I never forget man, me and me and me and cause we we we went statue limitation ran out was on me and it ain't that type of shape that but you know, we did a stick at one time. Come to find

out the motherfucker was a cop. Who fuck we get in the car. I'm bitching. I'm like, yo, ship that was a cop. Oh man, we gotta give him a ship back. But that consciousness right there, I always had it. Every time I've done something. Sometimes I will always question what I've done. So I had it there. But when I hit the penitention, I'm like, yo, man for that. No, I ain't going to jail for that. It's cool whatever. But that was thirty years ago. I don't even have

a statue limitation. But but but but what I'm saying is I love it so so whatever the case may be, I ain't you know, I'm just being so whatever the keep being scary man, whatever the case may be. But listen, well, whatever the case may be. It was like I evolved when I was in prison because I let that Nike it up face face on point though because we didn't we didn't have to do that with ship that was current. But like I evolved and I realized, like, yo, this

is some goofy ship, Willie. I'm sitting the cell day after day with another man. Want the time for me to take a ship. I gotta put a sheet up. He might be and he gotta smell my ship. I gotta smell a ship. The White Bull Guard to live in the middle of America. We listen, were building whole industries, were building whole towns. All prisons is in a small town in America. When they build a new prison, they building a small town in America and they build it up.

The prison, come the walmart, come. They built the whole town up, all the homies, all the homies across the country that go to the penitentiary and and it's one of the real ship that happened to me. I realized that And one of the the craziest moments when I was in prisons, when the guard told me he showed me. He showed me his uh, because I used to work with his guard. He just talks. I just talked. He

ain't like me. He I'm walking past the bubble. He go inside of his shirt, you know, because they wear vessels inside the joint, like these staff vessels. And he pulled like an envelope out. He opened a picture up and it was him and it was his son, like a boat and a house standing right there. He was like, yeah, yeah, people, that's my last name. You're in the home. He's brought me that. And it was it was it was this truth that cut me so deep because it was so real.

And when I went back at my cell hurt because I'm like me and the home he's never brought my mom's no cribs, we never do. Did he say that to encourage you in? He said that the dig at me me and the home. He's bought him that because when you listen, one thing about the institution, one thing about the justice system. I didn't seeing guards coming young, I don't know what's going on. Eighteen years old, straight off a farm, coming there and go from regular guard, sergeant,

lieutenant it, major, captain. I'm in Captain, major warden, and their son do it, and the brother do it, and the cousin do it, and my daughter did it, and they get to see and they get all these things based off of me and the home. He's put the work in the street and being real niggas on the streets. So by us being real niggers in the street catching

these cases, we're giving them job security. Because as more of us keep coming, loading them beds upping themselves, they keep telling their cousin come on down to jail and get a job. Come on, dearn, Bobby, come down, really come down. They hold listen, I didn't been in the prisons where the whole household was there, the mom, the son, the dad, they all the mom working in the hospital, on the jail, the dad of sergeant, the lieutenant, the son of regular guard, of work in the gym. And

guess what me let me break it down. And the eighties, I used to go to see my stepfather in prison, Me and my brother rest in peace and my brother Steve rest in peace and my stepfather. And it's a picture I got and I used to be happy every week to go see any time. My mom taking up, make the food, go see my stepa. His name Hip, what's phillis Steven Market? His name is Hip? And um rust and peace, Willie? Do you know? And this in the eighties, do you know? In me and my step

paps were sealmates in the same prison. I want to go see him at do you know? In two thousand and five, me and my brother was sealmmates in the same prison. We used to go to see my dad at my stepdad at generational incarceration at the same time. On the other side, you got the guards. So it's like it's deep. But that ship wake you up and you went and you're like, man, I got more. So when I'm out here and I'm talking to cats and I'm telling him it costs too much to be a criminal.

I'm trying to get I'm giving you ship off a real life. Don't wait till it's too late. I'm telling dudes based off like yo, act yourself, what did you really doing? Like we ride for an idea of something that don't exist no more. And let's a young boy told me some ship and it was real. I was in prisoning me and somebody older cats. He was telling on somebody will so he come back from court. Were

in the holding sales. He telling the motherfucker you know young boys like yo young and right there in the last seal, he raping that motherfucker going. He just went down the court telling somebody with his ah. So me and another old cat, older cat named Jeff Gains. He was named brand dude in the streets of Philly box all that we had. We hollered through the game young and come to the gate man, we gotta high light you. He said, what was y'all want? Old is what's up?

What y'all want to talk about? He said, damn, man, we heard you telling somebody. That's what he said us. This motherfucker was a different type of rat. He's saying, Oh the old is right, So y'all know the mind y'all business? What the fun y'all calling me for? He said, damn, you know we're going down there. You're doing something you ain't supposed to be doing. He said, listen, no heads, I understand y'all been in prison for a while, but I'm gonna let y'all know, because y'all know what's going

on out there. Y'all old niggas playing by some rules in the book that nobody reading on. We said that ship. He backed me up. He was like younger was about. He couldn't have been no more than twenty. He backed him off the gate. I get off the gate. I go lay him up bed, I said, Jeff, back up off the gate because I told my old head, Jeff, there was another I said, back up, because he educated me on the reality of life as it is right now.

And I can't say this for everybody, but to note that that idea is out there, that that mindset is out there. And I already was had my mind made up anyway. I ain't going home to do nothing, but it's just like wow. So I'm trying to tell these young cats when I'm doing my post, I'm like, yo, man, it costs too much to be a criminal, because ain't nothing gonna be more painful than when you hear your mom crying behind you. When you're in that courtroom and

you're sitting in there, you're Laurier right here. You're public defending because a lot of dudes they't got no money. You're sitting right here with your public defender. You're sitting right here, your mom and your sisters and all them in backing you in the courtroom. And when that motherfucker, no, when that motherfucker walked up on that stand and the d A saying yeah, excuse me, how do you know Mr Willie d How do you know Mr Willie Davis? And do you know him? Yeah? I know him? How

long have you know him? Oh? His mom used to babysit me. And your mom started crying in the back because your childhood friend telling me you because he realized he wasn't really the real naked that he said he was Instagram. That's when life. So my thing be like, I'm just trying to tell dudes, yo, get the funk out, go switch the ship up, because it's real. Well, I ain't trying to, you know, I'm just telling dudes like, yo, man, I live that ship. It wasn't worth it. Spent my

whole life in jail. I'm just trying to get your information based off a lived experience. I ain't know, motherfucking square, telling you don't do this, don't do that. I'm telling you like this, and man, that ship hurt when you're in the penitentiary day after day after day and your body start hurting me and you start getting weak inside based off of you just want to go home grown man or not. You're like, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna hug my mom. I wanna hug my grandmama. I want

to see my kids, and you can't. It's a whole different, you know. The code part is like when you are in the streets and hustling, a lot of times you rationalize, I'm doing this for my kids. I'm doing this, Yeah, I'm doing this for my girl. I'm doing this for my mom to get my mom a new house, you know, get out of or whatever. And you know when you

get jammed up, and you will get jammed up. When you get jammed up, usually you know you can hardly afford a lawyer when they do get you, because even if you got the money, a lot of times they're gonna freeze whatever money you already hadna take whatever you got and yeah, and anything you got stats in the crib. The people that you love the most are gonna run through your money. This happened to me, that's so, I know.

So they're gonna run through your money and you'll probably think about killing them, but you probably won't because it's like your mother and your brother sill. So yeah so so uh but all of this money, everything that you do, uh, you end up losing everything once you go in. And then what happens is that whatever you did is now exacerbated by the fact that you got a criminal record now.

And so now even if when you get out, you're further behind than you were when you were just broken, didn't have a criminal record, now you this, this life of crime, didn't put you even further behind because nobody wants to hire you, nobody wants to deal with you, and people don't trust you. So also, are you really doing it? Are you doing it? Are you doing it

for you? Are you really are you doing it for the kids, Because if you're doing it for the kids, the most important thing for your kids is presents, not presents, your presence, not presence. That is the absolute most important thing for a child. And so when you once you remove yourself from the house. Now the house is open, it's wide open to be raped and pillaged. You locked up,

you can't do nothing about it. Some dudes coming through the house, and you know, after a while, if you stay long enough, he's gonna start looking at your kids. Your daughter might be but it might he might be looking at your son. And then when your son, now, your son has to become a man faster than what he's supposed to be because he's trying to feel your shoes,

and thus the cycle repeats itself. That's what happened to while basically trying to feel the shoes of a man's doing something that another a man should have been doing, that was responsible for him, that bring him to this world. So so that it's it's a vicious cycle. And it's the moment that we understand that that we really get

that it's a trap. And you know, nobody likes just like in a relationship, nobody likes to be made of a fool, fool of if you once you realize if you're in a relationship and somebody made you out of a fool, you don't want to be with that person. You don't want to deal with that person anymore. So, why do we allow this system that we know it's stacked against us, that we know is designed to make us out of a fool? Why do we allow the

system to make us out of a fool? It's real, and you know it's like, uh, like me, well, a lot of my funers' understand they see me. I'm happy, ay because I'm happy to be out here. And a lot of my homies died. My brother got killed, he got shot, died in my grandma arms and the door step out of you know, the crib I was raised in um And it's like it's so much for me, and I'd be happy because I'm living. I'm out here living for his kids. That's the most gangster ship I

can have ever done in my life. You know. I'm there for my brother's kid, him, there for my family. That's all that. That's gangster, you know. Uh. And it'd be like like like, I'm just trying to show motherfucker's really really real? Is who you are, not what you do? Really really it's just real. Is that if you want, motherfucker, you get a baby day. You work at Wendy's, you work at Bernie King you're doing you, you go home, you play the games, you kick it with whoever that's you,

bro be. That ain't wrong with that. But but you know, as black people, we put so much priority and so much status on being a cool motherfucker, being lit, having cards so so so it'd be like we are our whole outlook a real. It's imagine the ship. Real got something to do with a real to us A lot of times Real got something to do with some criminal ship He real nigga getting money her real name. He shot Willie D last week. Real he shot a motherfucker.

You get more praise for doing something to another motherfucking black people is than just doing yourself. You know what I don't get, man, I don't I don't get how people who kill people and I in our neighborhood is accepted back into the community. Like when you live in up and like I'll say specifically a white community predominant

predominantly white community. If you take the life of some body that's in that neighborhood, your whole family got to get the funk out because it's it's two reasons were The main reason is that hey, man, just murder somebody where you murder somebody, and guess what happens. It makes the property value go to crime makes the property value go down. And murder is the worst crime you can commit. So they're like, get the funk out. You're bringing up.

You're gonna make you devalue in my home and devalue my property. So they're gonna push your ass all the way out. But us, you know, in the hood, this person go out there and kill somebody in the neighborhood. And they come back, and we said, we call him,

we give him a nickname, call them killer. We have a day we throw a damn barbecue for him or something, you know, after they don't kill somebody, and they have a barbecue and everybody people show up and everybody's celebrating, and you just you know, it's when you live a certain way and you condition to be a certain way. A lot of times, man, everything that's bad is viewed that's good, and everything good is viewed that's bad. It's

speaking of the good and the bad. You oftentimes will give advice to a lot of young men who want that advice about women. Where where did you get in your game? First of all, your game be like ice cold on point I realized, But where where does that come from? Man? That like, did you did you have an O G that you looked up to? They passed the game down to you as this back. You know, I think I'd like to say we was the last ever that came from They had old heads, you know,

that respected our old heads. You know what I'm saying. For me, I'm from Ariab, North Philly. We always was like you know, some slick talking mom. That's just like our neighborhood, you know what I'm saying. But but for us, it was it was just more just experience. I've seen a lot of ship. I've been through a lot of ship. I've done a lot of ships, you know what I'm saying. So for me, it's like, if I don't get eat the youth some type of game, some type and what

we call game is god. It's attention, motivation and education. If I don't, if I don't bless him, I don't give him some some type of game, some type of knowledge. You know, I might just trigger one person, two people, three people. You know, That's all that mattered to me. We was in the mall yesterday. It's funny you said we was in the mall yesterday. Man, and this kid

from New Orleans that live in Houston now seeing us. Man, this young and was probably about two years old, started crying, y'all niggas like, father figures to me, man, and you can tell that this kid is really from the mud, like literally this maybe bonds and was with his woman. It was like, hold on, Mitch, wait, nigga, who do but he's seen this and he like, man, y'a don't understand.

I live by the ship. Y'all be saying, man like I ain't handle father, like I ain't handle mall figures that and just started crying right there in to morrow. So it'd be things like that that happened that I'd be like, that's guy way of telling us what y'all niggas is doing his work. Keep giving that ship to him, you know, absolutely, man, And we want to thank y'all for that guy. That's attention, motivation and education. I ain't got to tell y'all to keep doing it because I didn't.

I didn't have to tell you to start doing So we love y'all, man, We appreciate you. App check y'all. Man, y'all you guys, you know definitely an inspiration man, keep going doing that. I would be remissing not speak on this trade A. This is the reason why you guys out there, that's that's what the teacher man a lot of stuff, the community kids. He yeah, we had to be here. And I want to say this to y'all.

I want to get you all your flowers. I always get o gs and hip Hop the flowers because and I always tell the young cats when we talked to him, like yo, yesterday is the reason today is able to make so much money. The opportunity, you know. And I tell them, I say, the money that y'all see in the week. Some of these cats ain't seeing a three

or four year career. So you know, I'm just thankful that y'all was able to create something, to be a part of something that's so great that we have today where so many people is able to take care of their families. Because when I'm looking at I'm looking at the producer, the manager, the engineer, everybody is a part of this thing called hip hop. The promoter, uh, everybody, the agents, the booking agent, the pure This system is so strong, and it wasn't it strong back in the day.

We didn't have all these departments and all these different people that could just getting filthy rich off it. But like, I appreciate your offer, just all your contributions to the hip hop and what we have today. You know, absolutely we appreciate you. Thank you man. It's like that, y'all right. This episode was produced by A King and brought to you by The Black Effect Podcast, ASS Networked and I Heart Radiom