The Devin The Dude Episode

Don't get it twisted on code and we danced for no furntament biscuits. It's Willie d y'all scar faces in the building. Collectively we are the ghetto Boys. Reloaded, Reloaded with another episode of information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world. In the studio, Devin the the Dude, What's What's what's up? Cool? And man? Good to be here, Man, damn. This is one of

the most unique voices in hip hop ever. One of the most talented guys I've ever met in my life. Kevin the Dude, Oh man, I appreciate it, sir man, good looking out man. I had had wonderful mentorship. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, coming up wrap a lot. Yeah, Man, y'all was the epitome, you know what I'm saying. And everybody in Houston, in Texas, in the South actually wanted to be a part of

the movement. Ya was, y'all was having Man y'all was like trimp setters, y'all groundbreaking, set the blueprint of independent rap period. I first heard Devin on um a song um he said, uh, and when you finished white in my dick all turned the channel twenty. It's all as I don't want to get off. That's what I like saying. Man, Now, what do you first meet that I don't remember. I think we were Digital Services a studio that we record. We were recording that because I know he remembered what

are you high when when you met? She definitely would remember, uh, digital services, Yeah, but I don't remember what. Yeah, John Ryan, Yeah much love Big Chicken, Big Chicken. That wasn't Big Chicken when that digital He came later with Mike, No, he came in. He came to hippie house. Yeah yeah, yeah, Big Chicken. Cut all these fingers off, man, What do you mean? I said, That's what I said. He cut

the fucking fingers off, bro. And he was a hell of a guitarist because cut his fingers out by accident. You know, you worked with that would cut his fingers off. He helped build built the Hippie house. But with him, Yeah, shout out the big chicken. Let's take it back there, let's go back to punt at Michigan. You know what, I get that a lot, man, because you know, you look at my Wikipedia page or whatever. Were you born in Punty? Yes, but you were raised in St. Petersburg. Yes.

I am the only uh sibling of mine just was born in Punty. Nobody in my family ever was born in Pty. Uh. My mom was pregnant with me at the time, and we were all from St. Petersburg, Florida. The car industry was booming, and I think my my my dad was trying to get a job and my my grandfather was living in Michigan at the time. So Mama that was pregnant with me moved to uh, moved to a Punty act just you know, for the summer, you know, and so he could get a job and

try to get situated, but they didn't. They didn't like it was too cold, and it was she was just she was uncomfortable and she just decided as soon as I was born, she was gonna go back to Florida. So after two months or so, uh, when we'll move back to Florida. So is that where the majority of your family is? Yeah, that's most of my family in East Texas, Texas, Canada. Uh yeah, yeah, we kind of

migrated from there. My grandmother started migrating for Florida back in like seventy nine, seven, seventy eight, seventy something like that. Texas Lefkin, I'm pretty sure I do. Yeah, we'll be doing a lot of but I'm pretty sure I got somebody in loving this kind. Yeah, so you left immediately, your mom left once she had you, and then you're in St. Petersburg. How long are you that before you make them jump to Houston? And there in the middle

third grade going to fourth grade? Okay, third grade, going to fourth grade. And uh, my my grandmother we called her Mama Candy. She moved first. She once she was really in the in the church scene, holding this church. I'm talking to five five times a day, five times

a week. You know, they go to church. You know, she was real you know, you know, Christian, and she moved because they had lack of things, saying that Florida was gonna end up being submerged and water and stuff was going to be wiped out or back then there was there's a lot of Evangelus, a lot of Christian tense, and a lot of stuff going on back then. So she she moved with with with her family, all uncles, stuff.

They moved, and she was trying to get my mother to come, trying to get so hard to give my mother to come to Texas. And they had had some land out in Douglas Field, Texas a hundred and nine people. So they just boom it still it might be two hundred people now that will be will be here. But cas the boe we cause the boom, you know, he went from you people. Man, that's you know, you know they you know cousins and stuff. They you know, they're doing the country with their cousins. I was just looking,

Yeah that's crazy. But yeah, man, uh but much love to the like the Washingtons and the Drayton's and you know the families out there in Douglas Ville. Uh. They was neighbors and they kind of taught us how to kind of live off the land. Man. You know, we was from the city where you know when they really know what was that. We know we had to chop wood to get ready for the winter. We know we had to plant a lot of seeds and go in the garden and take care of it. I thought it

was just fun at first. My grandmother had me out there picking purple hoole peas and with a purple and I was just having fun. And then the second week or so, it wasn't so fun. It wasn't so fun. It was like, man, it was like work work, And I was like, whoa, it was well water all that, you know what I'm saying. And it was I had to go next door and my grandmother made preservatives and I had to go next door to take the preservatives over there and to trade them off for for eggs.

This is Douglasville, Texas. It's right, it's a town. I mean, what's smaller than the town? I don't know, but that's where that is. The biggest time was it was called New Boston and we eventually moved moved to the Victor but much love to other people in Boston too, man, Boston, Texas. But it was we had, you know, walked a mile down the dirt road just to get on the bus to travel thirty miles to school every day you went to school out there. Yeah, Atlanta Rabbits. Much love to

Atlanta Rabbits. As my first Texas school ever, you know, and it was the elementary school. And then uh, eventually we moved to New Boston. Uh New Boston Lions, you know what I'm saying that. Then uh, after that, my mom was like she she just wanted to get away. She needed somewhere bigger to stay with a lot of kids and stuff. She had our kids. So she layed at the job in Houston and like eighty two, eight one, eighty two, you got a job like in Houston, and

like eighty three, we just started coming, you know. She she moved us in, she said for us, and uh, you know, start chilling in Houston and back then every time we get in trouble, my mom was sending us to the country to New Boston. So I was going back and forth, back and forth from Houston to New Boston, Texas until I graduated. Yeah, and when I graduated. I had. I just wanted to get out of there. I just wanted to, you know, shout out talking to Rhode Dogson

New Boston too. Man, what what what made you want to start rapping down? Um? And when did you know that? You was like, really fucking dope? You know what? What when did I start rapping? Maybe start rap? Actually? I was breakdancing, you know, even from Florida coming to Texas. Were just know we was we were just doing a robot and stuff like that. We had groups and my my older brother Donny, you know, not a chilling cool and the mother that's why most of my stuff, that's

where I get it from. The d lack what man? You know what before I left, when she I went, she sent for me before my mom, my mom and the rest of my family came to Texas. So she kept sit sending for me. She promised me a shelling pony. Yeah, and I was like I wanted and I wanted I always wanted one. She I never got it, but she she bought me up there. You know what I'm saying. She got And then then I realized what it was. Uh,

it wasn't really a chilling point. It was something bigger than that, but it was something to ride off with. It was something significant and it kind of meant the same thing because that shed the pony did back then. It took me a long time to realize what it was, but it was. It was. You know, she didn't allow me to have circule of music. I couldn't we couldn't play. I feel like circular circular. I mean like what what what are you talking about? Like, what's bigger than the

Shelling Pony? What are you talking about? Okay? The Shelling Pony to me as a kid, was big enough for me to get on and ride around and show off and I can. It's like a ride to me as as a kid. You always think about like a horse, but it's not a big, intimidating horse. It's a cute little pony that you can ride and you know you can. You can still maneuver and just have fun with it. And I always wanted one, you know, back then it was like many bikes and stuff and go across something

you can get on the ride. Shelling Pony was like a little ride to me that I wasn't intimidated body because when they came from Florida to Texas a big horse and it was the bigger, but the selling pony was cool. I can get on it and I never got it, but she she instilled in me a ride that I had I can have for life. It wasn't it wasn't selling pony, it wasn't the horse. It wasn't nothing. That's that you can literally drive or ride. But it's a simple in life. Yes, It's like I had to

go to church every every day. I went like three or four times a week. I kept falling asleep in church. She kept hitting me, getting getting me up to the point where she talked to her to the to the pastor and asked if I could join the choir. And I was the only kid in the choir because I kept falling asleep and the churn and see was embarrassing want that. She just would stand up and saying, you know, so I was the only kid in there me And uh, what other kid was that? Maybe? Uh thinker? Yeah? Yeah,

yeah he was like he played tampaein too, you know. Yeah, yeah, I wish your solo. Do you remember you know what funny you ask? It was something really simple? He was so many times I did not have a time you know what I told nobody, But he gave me a try, and I did not have to die, you know what I do, but something like real simple and I'm bless Yes, I'm blessing, you know, something real simple. But he used

cold back then I wrote the church up. But there was a holy dis church when they running around and fast speaking time. I didn't understand that, you know, fell church sleep, but I ain't never you know, but it was interesting to watch and it was just really really you know, it was just the spirit was there and it was just music for the most part. And then you know, just when I go to church. Do you ever go to church? Hal, No, I didn't. I didn't go to the church. Half when I started getting high,

stopped going to church. Stop going to church. My getting happens. The reason I don't know, well, you know, and then later I'll go to church. Cut your snap, m you cut your snap. I caught my snap. Cut your snap exactly like I'm going to church. What the hell is that going to this? No, that ain't there. Den theyve got some weed in his pocket and and and a cooler full of bill in the car right here. I remember when I first heard um fat enough for everybody.

I heard the original alright, squad questions, love Baby, Yeah, and and and and I thought it was the most UM original shift I had ever heard. And Um, I heard Dare's voice. Man, I wanted to put Devin and and d MG and a couple more Smitty and a couple more UM artists were unique voices in this group. Man. And we started making records, Man, and the ship started sounding better and better and better and better, and we

ended up naming the group Face Monk. And Um, I just saw I just saw something in Devon, you know, back when I guess nobody's seen that ship because we actually sat down and did a solo album together. And then that's when I really had the opportunity there to see how dope Devin was. Man, and the first song the Dude, you know, remember Wayne played the horn on the ship and then they played the bass on the ship. Got talented family. I got talented in my family. Man.

You know, uncle uncle Wayne died and and Man, I know he would be super proud to to to know that you took your career into your own hands and and and started making albums and moving forward rather than doing like a whole lot of other artists. Excuse me, that just ended up saying, you know what, man, fun this music ship, I'm gonna give me a job. And you you you knew what you had and you stood on that ship. Man. That was that's that's just so dope to me. There. You was pretty much one of

the biggest influences of that. I never thought to be a solo artists. I never wanted to be so large. Always wanted to be in a group great to assay, basketball, football group. I just want to be a good team member and everything, you know what I'm saying. And I found like a cool group with Oscar rob Quest and when who was like solid and when you came on and he was like, man, y'all are dope. Man, you

know what I'm saying. You you're a dope. You really kind of like, say, man, you you ever thought about doing a solo solo album? You asked me. I like and not really, you know, saying I would like the group I say, he said, you said, man, man, you'll be a dope solr this man just just think just think on him. And I pondered on it, but I never gave it a thought. I don't know if you passed that on the jail or something. But I know he asked me one time too at digital in the

parking lot. I said, damn, you was thinking about going solo. And before I can answer it, um beatose brother, rest in peace. Man, You're like, definit ain't ready? Man, three two terms? It's three two terms? Uh the beat brother, he's passed well, so man, Tenny saying something like that. I don't believe that really, yeah, because I think he was done with three too, right. I don't I don't know how he wouldn't. I don't want to say the wrong. I don't want to get it. But it was it

was something by that short price getting dude gangster type. Yeah, but it's on three two. It's three two up next and I was like, you talking about nig We didn't even talk to me. Yeah, I'm ready to Jay, Yeah, I'm ready. Man. I don't know what the you know, man, because we just kind of got into it and men, he was about to, you know, go at it with words, and I wasn't thinking about the solo until you know he's talking, Devin, ain't ready. It's three to surting to go.

You know, you know who's next, I like, no, hell, it must have been really hot man, because I've never seen well. It was some inside stuff, man, Man, I love three too. That's my that's my nigger man. But it was rest in peace three man. You know, he delved for the city man, he really represent but it was some internal stuff that you know. He was kind of going at me with I shook it off, shook

it off here, You'll never know, bring it on. He was talking about me, yeah, you know in his first couple of lines, because he was free with just freestyle, gonna bring it on. And he came in. He came in digital and listened to everybody's verses and then he stopped after the art score he heard uh. Then he he said, let me go in there and he started rapping. But it was something you know, Damn, I see it. Now I'm at the window of your cocks and caddy.

You heard I roll a fatty. I was a fast squab twist this meet, and they can need a fast squab twist. The wonder fun this system made a fusty but you know what that And then you came in like you heard I roll a fatty. Now I'm at the window the cocks like I've no known who got it, nobody. I don't think that was the case. No, no, no, no, no if but Devin, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna ride with that one man. I hope it's you know, I would like to say, I would like to say,

you're probably right, but no, but it was. It was It was just like a competition at the time, a friendly competition. It wasn't nothing personal, but he really wanted to He wanted to be up next, you know, either with the convicts or whatever. He he really had a lot of thrive and wanted to whoever in my way up in the fresh. But three two was really really cool. I mean he freestyled off the top, like really just lasting everybody. We had fun. He's coming to rob House

all the time. Him and Big mikey byby hot but they left weight. We freestyle, drank smoke. But we was really cool. We was all cousins. We was all like hip hop cousins, and it was all friendly. But that line, it was it was kind of about be you know, because but I never said this thing, and I thought, you know, if it wasn't really now impact, I know you said something one of your songs. Man, I'm just trying to hear. I'm trying to remember all these songs.

But you probably responded no no, no no no no no no no. It didn't It didn't deserve a respond never ever, ever. And I never got offended. I never I'm like, oh, I wish I had a chance to go back in the boot. That was the thing I felt. But yeah, it was it was. It was another man, man, What's love? What's the three too? Man? It was really compos reloged podcast when be right back after the poet? You got a cult following the devil like and you got mixed U When when when we look out into

the crowd of your contructs, you see everybody. I think that you have tapped into a market for everybody, you know. I mean, everybody's at your show, bro, and everybody's high. I think that's the bridge, you know, not only getting high but having a good time, having a good time. Man. I don't really get I don't really get into a lot of racial stuff, you know, but you know, to me, a color is just a color. You know, a person

as a person. Uh, there's a lot of you know, good and bad, and every race and create or whatever. So I try a lot of people. Everybody's in your crowd. It's well diversed. You have a cult following. Bro. Like, every time I called that, well what what what David Man? David I don't do I'm like, fuck, when does he have time to record? You're always on tour, fucking dope. Damn you got fans all over the world and the music.

I like mingling with him too. Man, after the show, just getting right off the stage and going straight out there, you know, before they clean up a club and kick everybody. I like to go round that, you know, go out and just you know, show up, just to you know, touch them and take pictures and just I mean, if it wasn't for them, man, it just appreciate it at this day and age, at my you know, this point in my life, at this you know, the age that I am to be appreciated for the past music. It's just,

you know, I can't ask for that, nails. You know, it would be selfish of me to just and you know, get off the stage and just go and get my money and gip to the next show. Now it's you know, it's a lot more than that. You had the opportunity to work with Dr Dre Yes, sir, yes, sir, that was a he was that experience. I was wonderful. That was wonderful. That was about um Actually it was I was just at at the crib man. That was a crib nineties something like that somewhere. But then and a

call from rapping Lot. It was Rico. I'm much love Ricos who you know? Uh? He just he said, damn um man. Dr Trey about to get ready to call you. Man, he WoT you work on me on his is that when I was like you you're ship and like you ain't you? He said, no, man, I ain't. I'm for real, stay by the phone. He's gonna call you. So our pass two hours pass. I'm like, man, and I know he just watching him. I was checking from see it was April first or whatever. I like, all right, let

me see so I totally forgot about it. Three hours pass whatever, vone rang, I'm not Salni. I just picked hello Yo, it's Devin. Yeah, and just do what do fuck you do? Yo? Tray kicking the you know what I'm saying that break back the boys, just as I did that on this And it was just trigling me just like Dr Trey. And I heard you say when you was talking about Rico told you that Drey was gonna call you, he sounded like yes, some excitement he bus,

But that's not how Rico talked. Sometimes. That car was more like a Drey about to call you. Yeah, pick up the phone. It was more, it was very a lot more reserved, more and more reserved. But back then he was you know, he was you know, he bore, laid back. Now yeah he just started looking and getting strong. He got didn't got muscles now and an energy. Yeah he'd rather let him or wait. But yeah, and then he called and you got in touch with me man and told me about the project and man, flow out

that man, that was incredible. Man, that experience, I'm sure just to see him work, to see him work. You said you got to call in two thousand and seventeen, But the chronic didn't come out to two thousand one word one, not at nine nine or something like along. It was because my album was out, you know, my albums out. So that's why you were, like, dude, what you wanted? Dude? Like I heard that for us like Dray kicking. But yeah, man, he said, he really you know,

he was listening to us as the Odd Squad. He said, he had our first demo tape. I'm telling you, bro, I had that motherfucker' Snoop. I was listening to that on the first Chronic tour. They were listening to the Odd Squad you know, demo tape before you came out. I was like, wow, yeah, no, dad, y'all. Man, that

fucking blood blood smoking that we feeling fine? Got me a party in the bad as that ship there, man, Wow, him the Snoop Snoop told me that they used to listen to Pushy like Dope all the time, that pussy like dope and uh smoking a weird yeah, yeah, but that was that was That was good, just good to hear, just that he was listening or heard about me. Man, it was just wow. Besides the fact that you went down and you discovered that he was a huge fan

of yours. What's one of the things that surprised you most about Dre, not not not even necessarily as a professional, just as a person. What's one of the things that because you know, because Drey is pretty much an introvert compared to a lot of celebrities and superstars, but inside inside of the studio itself, I'd never really just cheered with Drey on the outside of the studio chilling vibe and or whatever. But I know on the inside it's just total control of of of of of the music

I'm talking about. We'll have six seven people in there. Everybody's on the instrument, somebody's on the base, somebody's on a good start, somebody's on the keyboard. I had male man on the imp, somebody on the upright base, most upbreak base. And they he gave me a debt, a debt tape, and he and him and when he gave it to the engineer, the engineer putting, and he gave me a piece of paper with what was onto that

tape was like a hundred and seven numbers, all skeletons. Now, he was like a minute and a half a minute here, you know, all skeleton songs with maybe five six instruments at the most in it. And he said, if you hear something, you're like, man, just living there. We're like, oh man, you know what I'm saying. So they started playing, you know, they kept going, and they only played like

ten seconds of each to see if I like. And I couldn't really get a chance to absorb each one because they were dope, but I couldn't, like try to feel it, so I can probably play some money right there. So he's going through it, and they got like seventeen eighteen, and I'm mail man, say go back to numer twelve. Man, he was feeling in twelve. Went back to number twelve and he was do do do do? Do? Do? Do? Do? I just want to like, he said, you like that,

like that's dope. Coom boom. He'd shut everything down and he told everybody about the number boom and everybody just got to their position and start redoing that song, and to play the song longer, stopping it too fast, Give me thirty seconds, let me let me feel it. Me say something, I mean, how arrogant? Would I know? It's just like I was just honored. I was just honored, man, But I was afraid I have to listen to all this stuff. How are you going to choose a song

to two hundred and seven trade? Trade? You know what I'm saying, Nicole is part about Dre. Dre would start to he would put the daddy in and just press record and just make ship. You know this ship, so it ain't no tilling what's on them? And I don't know tell you what though. And after that, I don't want to give his a game away and I'm no, yeah man. But look after that, you know, we decided, you know what, we don't go with and we did

the song. I'll come back to the actual song. But he started having like a studio session where he just had Maleman was on there on the beat, the tempo was made, the eighty five tempo, have that going. Boom, He'll just he'll just get the tip altogether. Boom mill Man, come up with it like a beat. He'll wait, We'll say, he'll just wait and if it ain't right, it's a look. It's like a feeling, and he'll know what it's right because here, you know, something to do. Point base player,

coom boom. He pointed the other keyboard toom. He came to the jam and then the guitar. Let's start doing. And then by the time you know, it's like six seven people in that Chamman, and they went for like three minutes and they'll stop. The whole ship's boom. Let's start back over again with another temple eighty eight eighties, you know whatever, and and then point over here he did like seven songs and ten minutes, six songs and ten minutes skeletons, and I was like, oh, that's how

we got you know what. But it was so fucking cold, and he chorreographed that ship to the t and he was like, he's a man. I never seen Quincy Jones work man was you got? This is why I took offense to this video that I watched yesterday. I don't know the guy's name, but he said that R and B artists we're talented, and hip hop artists was cool.

It's like he was like he was talking about the difference between the two genres, and it was almost like what he was implying that hip hop artists didn't really have talent. It's just we made it something cool. We made music cool, We we did something cool, not necessarily that hip hop artists were talented talented, and that what

he just said. Uh, totally distraught that philosophy, Uh, that theory that he has right like saying that, you know, it's just just cool, Like, yeah, it's some cats out there that's that bank on't just trying to be cool, that personality or whatever. But I know, I know, I know some artists. I bet your ass can right that ship, you know what I'm talking about, Like, I bet you can't produce the ship that they produced. Talking about making

just you know, just making it cool or whatever. I mean, he said some other things I can't really remember, but I just remember that overall he had a uh, he had a good angle on it. But when he said that piece about hip hop or you know, artists just being cool, It's like, Yeah, he lost me with that that. You know, it takes uh to do it right, to do it right right, and especially to do it a

long time. It takes kell of talent and and uh not the uh like Devin, you you are very fucking ain'tle with your ship, you know, with your with your with your music, bro, because I have seen you said at the board and mixed vocals and I'm sitting there like, bro, dare this ship is right and I gotta get this up to him. It's a song called Sticky Green on Davi's first that um we did together, and I actually make that motherfucker a boy myself. Were you a part time?

I believe not for the whole mix with in and out. Yeah, but I got one off man without Devin coming in vocals. I was like, god, I used to get Mike being here. I know you did should I used to give Mike Dean hell man. Shout out to Mike Dean. Mike Dean was a bad mom. He is a bad motherfucker on calling the Rick Rubin the Rappelite. How do you how do you feel about Brad still in the name face Mob? I mean that was your group, right, face right? No,

what the fun Willie? That's faces group. Let's face his mob and the funk Willie? Oh god, well Face had a man. He was gonna man. He was doing a big he had a lot of artists were about to get ready to come out with different solo u and he was telling me, man, you know while everybody's chilling and uh solo mode. Man, we got so much talent together. Man, I want to put this group together until you know, we started doing the solo projects. I want you to

come to help me out. You know, it's called a face mob and if you just come to do a few hooks, you need to be cool. And everybody was so dope, bad man, everybody I mean that was not a weak link. Yeah, man, it was the other side of the Hey. Yeah, at any time we do it on the other sadle on the he was cold, okay, man, man, and then you can you still break down? You know, I got one more wind mill in me one mode. You know what I'm saying. That's you know, you know

you got one more. That's why I got one. You don't use that wise hunt up video, you know what I'm saying. But if the right song, come on, there's one song, if you play it, I have to try to do something anyway. So I can't. I'm not gonna take a song. I'm gonna find that my you know what I'm if you work with a lot of artists about the years. You know you're starting off with Brad you know you work with um Slam you I'm trying to blank them. Snoop Yeah, snoop. Can do you work

with Bond Bright, work with Dred three Stacks? Yeah? Hell yeah? Man? Else quite a few people, Man, it's because it's been a blessing, man, just for people to reach out. Man, for real. It's just overwhelmeding just to to be asked, uh, to be a part of somebody's project life. You know what I'm saying, just to and uh. I love working with people who want me to be a part of what they're doing. You know what I'm saying locally, you know, from from from here to up there. You know, it's

just a blessing to be reached out upon. You know. I never thought that I could make a living. Uh uh, you know, provide for my family by notice, back in the day, I st just a hobby of I'd really like to do it. I just want to give a record contract and the semi hous of Ville. That's all I want. Oh, what a job is? Speaking of your family, man, how did your family take that once you when they found out, man Devin is doing his thing, like he's messing with this rap thing he's on, Like, how did

they respond to that? With my mom, she was always she didn't care what I do long as I stayed out of trouble and I was able to provide. She she she I told I wanted to pursue a rap career once I got to high school and I wanted to I want to go to the Art Institute of Houston. So she helped me to go to the Art Institute of Houston to try to pursue that. How many years did do that? Actually I did year so but I know I was too much from completing, uh the whole

of something. And I was I was gonna be able to get a degree. You get a degree the first year they was having got degrees for that, uh for music business, yeah, broadcast, music video, music video business for broadcast. All that too much left and we gotta I got a record deal with Raphilized and me and jug was that jug dext you know, so he was. It was like, man, we got to deal. That's where we came to school for huh man, the school and I regret I still

did at to this day. I still want to go get my two months so I get my degree so I can at least teach or talk or go to some school programs. And that's you know, professor, Professor Devon to do packed out. Oh yeah, they'll be come to they'll come to class high to know, you ain't gonna say nothing about us coming from that, not at up especially you can get the work done. Man. Man, I believe some about the students would come high, you bet ye. The students would come out and I'm saying, hey man,

it's your body. Man. Whatever you want to do to your body's your body. As long as you can get the work done you had, because you can't just be having anybody feeling that right oh yeah, and started looking at you like what kind of teacher are you? And I never wanted weed to be the forefront of my career with it because that made a movie about it. No, No, I was asked to my career make a movie in a movie. Yeah, I mean you know that that was you and a little little Yeah, do a part too,

that would be nice. I would love to do it. But yeah, cope. Daniels direct and producer that much. Eddie Griffin, he executive produced that. To Eddie Griffin, he was, yeah, he was. He was in the movie too, the white guy in the bar. What yeah, Eddie Griffin, Yeah he was. He was made over as the white guy. He was makeup on everything. Do you do you every want to do anymore? Active? I would? I wouldn't not, I would. I would love to actually, but you know, I mean

I would would be pursued it. Actually. I wanted to do it in a different ride. I wanted to do right. I want to do more writing. I wanted to test that shouldn't be funny. I want to write a mother just write skit so whatever. You know, we have kind of crazy idea stuff. So but boy, I know you and UM and Jug and Rob Boy. If y'all had go pros in the studio, boy, I know that ship is funny as fuck, like like we can't. We couldn't get work done because we'd be laughing at some motherfucking

hard man. Devin is is funny as fun man. Can I smoke with y'all? No, the podcast will be right back after the poet. Then the first time you went overseas? What what country did you visit to play? I don't know the Seas with mm hmmm. I might have to call up Matchinsils because Matinsil is my international manager. I believe so feeling, you know what, because I know I played Finland and just played maybe a month before that. It was feeling. I remember doing a lot of uh

I've did some recording and stuff over there's a studio record. Yeah, feeling yeah. But since then, you know, it's been a quite a few uh places I visit over that man, it was cracked out each time. Man, it was man. It was a blessing. Man. And I then not realize that they listened to me or to hip hop in general that much. And they are really into it. They are really into the history the places before all this uh social media, social media and Wikipedia and all this

right here. They would really know about hip hop, graffiti, DJ and the history of these people and where they came from and how they grew up and stuff. And you know, I'm like, how did you know all this? Man? They asked me about ka Reno Man. Man asked me about Man that's the Godfather. Yeah, Man, you know about Lukiki. They know it tripped me out, But look Kiki packed out a spot in Japan and some ship, right man, Man,

Man Me too, Me too, man. Man. When I went out there, dude Duke, I spoke with the editor of the magazine. He was interviewing me, and he said, Willie d you know you're in concert the same night as fifty cent, And I said, yeah, I heard. He said, yeah, but you have nothing to worthy about. They're coming to see fifty because he's hot. They're coming to see you because you. I let you tell me that ship and I thought it was just gassing me up and I

showed up in the airport. It was on so Michael Jackson. She was like three d people in the airport with signs and ship. What were feeling? And I saw the promoter Yarrow yea, And I said, man, you didn't have to do all this. He said, the motherfucker's did it on. I don't know the motherfucker's what he said, don't know the motherfucker's They heard you what comment? I guess yeah. And they were outside, like in the snow. It was

fifteen below. They were in the snow. I didn't go on to four am, but they were in the snow at noon. They were in snow at noon, standing in line. I didn't know what the hell because we we we were pad we we went to a subway and it was the subway was like a block away, uh from the hotel and the venue. The Virgin Company was right in the middle. And so we walked back. We got

dropped off and we walked back. And as we're walking back, I look over to my left and I see all of these people standing in line, you know, a few hundred people standing in line, And uh, I said, what's going on over there? I mean I'm man, I'm totally just just oblivious. Was, you know, to my juice in Finland. So I'm like, you know what's going on over there? He said, Uh, the motherfucker's are down for you. They think they're gonna miss something. And I showed up, dude.

So the Virgin Company. I don't know if it's still that at that building, but it's it reminds uh, it's it reminds you of like the House of Blues, two stories, whole, two thousand people, balcony and all these types. Uh. And I show up, bro, and they're rumbling. I come out. You know, typically when I do my show, I'll come out and maybe for like a minute, I have a one minute intro, and then I go out there, man, and the people started tripping so hard. I circled around,

said keep that ship going. And I came back and I was like, really touch And then I come back, I said watch this. I go to my boy, I said, watch this, go back to the front and touch another chicken. She just it was something to see, man. But they are the point is that they really do appreciate real hip hop. They really do appreciate it, man. They they show a lot of love. Uh, and you you don't have to have a hot album out today if you give them a hot album from back into day. Yeah,

you're you're good. Yeah, that's just that's the part of it. It's the part about you're doing. Yeah. You know, we used to do that ship. We used to be on We used to be on stage. You used to be on stage and you know when you go up to the front, you know, and you know they do do little Michael Jacks's name, you touch one of them chicks and they start fighting and ship falling out. We used to do that, like watch this. I mean Brad didn't do he couldn't. We couldn't get the women. He couldn't

get the women to do that type of ship. But you know used to love so you know how that love man? Yeah, that was build. That was touching all the women making them pass out. Really was back there looking at me like what the is? Yeah? Okay, man, man, this is wonderful right here. Glad to see y'all doing this. Man for real, this is when we do. You'll make a major moves, man, and you gotta look good on on on TV. Man. I like that intro from intro.

Man just your your career, man, I have followed it, I have watched you grow, and I can honestly say, man, I am very very proud of what you do and what you've done in your accomplishments to date, you know, and I look forward to to watching you grow even more. Bronk. Yeah, man, you you fucking did that. But appreciate you. Man, You're the ones who kind of gave me, you know, catapulted me. Man, gave me the start. You don't want to gave me my name. My name is just Devin name. He put

the dude on that. I mean, okay, it was just Devon and we was working on the album. I needed two or three songs left. He said, Man, what do you just listen to when your little like man Quzzy Jones, Dude, that's my favorite album. You gotta we Gotta, which I was like, yeah, it's in the bat room. We went to the bat room to get the final from Domo, came back and he played it. We just start breaking everything he wanted to start it producing and getting all

together and boom. I came back like thirty minutes the beat was already Yeah. I was like, who rendition of the dude, you know, smoking on the sweet while they getting it's nothing. Has so much fun working on that record. Man. As soon as soon as I finished the record, he was like, he said, that's it. That's your name, that's the name of the album. I was like, I like, that's Quizzy Jones. No you to do that. He kept up, Man, you do man, But we shot a commercial dog commercial. Bro,

do you have that commercial David for that album? The commercial we shot man where I pulled up in the van to pick you up, but the show it we didn't. Yeah right, damn no, I don't know who got that. That motherfucking commercial is the that will be something good to see you. So I directed Devon's uh you know how to shoot commercials for people albums and ship? So

I directed one of Devon's uh commercials. Man, that's where I pull up in a big gass white fifteen passengers band pick him up with a concert made you see I'm knocking on the bathroom though, Yeah, I wonder who got that. That's still around? That would be some That ship is great and then then walking out of the bathroom, walking out of the house with the toilet paper on his shoe to know where all this stuff is what are you into other than music? You know and honestly

your favorite pastime. But but what are you into besides that? Man? You know, on a personal level, I like on on the hobby type thing. It's for times are like I love a remote control stuff. I love our cars, drones. I started off with just flying helicopters. You know, at a helicopter is way way harder than a drowne to fly, and then a drone is a lot easier to fly than a quad copter. What the copter is? What it was in the beginning, before they started coming out with

the word drone, it was just a quad copter. We had a helicopter to fly, you know, we're just one propeller. Then you had a quad copter with for propeller. That was it. But every move, every movement of your fingertips or whatever, it does something and you cannot let it go or we're just they're just crashing the sup. It was just your your total you're in total controller. Now it's obstacle avoidance and all kinds of stuff. You can down and talk and it'll still be flying all that.

It's so easy. Remember one time I was working, I had a drone, Bro, and I put that on the fucking way up there, and then that it's cut off. It sound like a battery issue with the remote. I don't know what it will, but that motherfucker cut off, man. And at least I won with them drunk like twelve hunting. I watched that thirteen and I all hit the ground and shadow like glass. It's devastating that it was all in somebody. They make them better today, Yes, I don't know,

a lot better now I have a lot cheaper, less expensive. Yeah, you get a fan of force. What they have they moved up to, like what the Phantom team, I don't know. I mean dj I, Magi, Magis, are you know something? Top dogs? Now? You know they got the Minis and they have some smaller versions and all kind of different models now out. But yeah, I like the Maverick three. Speaking of smaller versions, you got kids. I got seven kids. You got seven kids, bro, Damn, that's a lot of kids.

About the kids in the two thousand's, Yeah, well I was the youngest, and uh the youngest is five and old. This is like thirty, you know what I'm saying. So it's like I got two waves, two waves of kids. You know, four of the seven are pretty much grown. And I'm doing the only thing right now and happy more. No, uh well, and we gotta say the same, you know. That's it. Man. But no, I got a nice little shut off valve that I got shut off valve that over. Uh no, no, no, no, no, no, I got a

personal one. My brother did brother data he got you know, he told man, he got like nine teams, so there's time for him. Kid. Yeah. Yeah, we get a lot of get a lot of a lot of fun. Yeah. But yeah, but you know, I love each and every one of them, and I love kids here. Man. I just one time I walked in Devon's house, right, I'm walking to devin house. Man, I said, it's a cute little girl. Man. I looked at it. I say, you're here.

He said, yes, here. That was done that. I don't even know where you came from because it was just I was having kids at the time, and that was She just popped up, like what do you what did she get in? You're here? You're here? My son? I got a son at Dante He started producing that eight years old. Yeah, Dante is dope, man, He's funny. It's fun too. He's hilarious wrapped here probably you know, I got you know, he was talking at this day and

age and that type of rap. You know, it was kind of that type rep you know what I'm saying. So I was kind of like, man, you might just you know, he's real talented. To man, he could. It surprised me. But you know, my my nephews in these Texas, to man, they they're all kind of talented. They gotta made me like, well maybe I should try to do something and do something really extra formed because they got three nephews and my son. They they're like really really cool.

They forced me to do something for them because they really they got a good project. Project. Yeah, when it's time for you to go and you ain't got no more, how you want to be remembered? You know what, Well, if I could just be remembered, I would be cool.

Just remembered and then let him take it from there and just do history, you know, because you you forget about a lot of rappers and stuff and and and a lot of greats that that's that's been here, and and you don't really go down the rabbit hole of what they contributions of what they did until that they die whatever, and then some of them are not even remembered, and then you gotta if you bring the name up,

but oh yeah, I remember. So just to be remembered in a conversation, man, and just that's that's fine with me. That's that's that's that's the last is the last question. I'm gonna ask you promise, Okay, then we're gonna leave what you're gonna do, and the people go home and you want to smoke weed and the reps all gone. Somebody had take that about Dube a track. Do me that, man.

They're always a pleasure to see you though. Man, the pressure is always mine, man, last man I said, I stopped hitting that note like three packs of black and mouth got oh yeah, looking ahead ladies, man, I appreciate the love. So dope man, And stay high, oh we'll do. And that just highest spirit man, you know what I'm saying. Just high, you know, and just living life and to the best of your ability. Just just stay high mast

above water. That's what that means. I just always always talk about how important the come line is when you're wrapping, and Devin has some of the most amazing come lines in the history of the art. I smoke weed, I drink bru It's all a rapper back and sh that's all I do. I love it, man, I remember that line. Just put me just side all the time. You even told me check this out, like mob if I'm hot in how about you? You know that I don't just

want like that. There's more to it. But he was like, say, Mario, Hey, what is that motherfucker's song? Dad? I don't want to hear it. Uh take brass voice, man, what's the song? Damn? I want Lee on that song too. What is the name of that song? You? That's on the Comfort Brother album? Okay, don't take much shit out man? That song they go. This episode was produced by a King and brought to you by The Black Effect Podcast Network and I Heart Radio