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Government Contracting feat. Gary Wade

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Government contracting expert Gary Wade stops by GBR to discuss the inner workings of government contracting, how to start the process, getting certified and qualified to access funding, his MWDBE Training Academy and so many important gems.

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Get up, gettle boys. It's back and reoaded all in your mind. Yeah, and no deep throating. This is for the streets, the reel, the railroading, the disenfranchise, the truth, the scapegoating. And they ain't know when we speak the truth, so they ain't quoted because we wrote it. The North South East coat is g b my tree, keeping your head bobbing. It ain't no stopping and wants to be trying by. And then the system is so corrupt they threw the rock out their heads and then blame it

on us. Don't get it twisted on code and me and danceing for no buttment biscuits. It's Willie d y'all scar faces in the building. Collectively we are the ghetto boys, reloaded with another episode of information and instructions you navigate through this crazy, wild, beautiful world. I guess today Gary Wade, the founder of m W D b E Academy, and

exactly to people, whatever is that you do? Man, that's a good question with it, d Hey, We teach, we teach our people how to get involved in the process, you know. And when I said the process, that means all this public money that's floating around you know, we need to we need to know about it. So at the MWDB Training Academy, that's what we specialize in. Right, how what walked me through the steps I'm gonna I'm an aspiring entrepreneur. I guess I'm my entrepreneur. I'm putting

up the money. I got my money, I got my D B A or whatever, the regular stuff. Uh. And you know I want to get some of these government contracts, man, because I know that's what a How the goal is? How do I get in? What's my first step? What do I need to know? Well? Well, when people ask me that question, the first thing you need to know is how am I trained to know what I know? So I have a saying that I used a lot.

If you knew better, you do better. And so being an expiring entrepreneur in business go along with a lot of know how as to how you're gonna be involved in whatever you're trying to do. So with this public money, the first thing most people think is you gotta be certified, certified, certified, Well, certify, what if it's certified minority? We came to the world certified black, So why we need to be certified? I don't get it. But that's a part of the program,

so let's jump through that hoop. Most importantly, what we do it the MWDB Training Academy is we teach you how not to just be certified, but how to be qualified because qualification is the key to being involved in the process. So I have to be certified, you know, will the yes and no again, I just told you. If you're look in the mirror, you're already black, So you certified minority. No, you don't need a license, just depending on what type of business you're in. If you're

a lawyer, you need law license. If you're talking about it, some type of license to do business with the city, the government. No, you just need a NACE code, Okay. A NAICE code describe what type of business you're in. Okay. So if you're a plumber and you have a specific nice code for plumbers. If you're electrician, same thing. If you are radio star, if you're an entertainer, whatever you do,

you need a NAICE code. And at the MWDB Training Academy, what we do is we teach you how to go and specifically pick a NACE code that best fit what you do. Answer a question, go ahead. This is a lot of money in in in in this type of funding from very good, very good question bred. In America, we spend roughly five trillion dollars annually. That's the American budget, three trillion mandatory spending, the other two discretion. And here's

what I want you to think about it. In America's about thirteen percent African America's We pay taxes on everything like everybody else. So it seems like to me that of that five trillion dollars need to figure out how to get back. Now, the ruth and regulations say it do, but we have to teach ourselves how to get it back, and it has to start with leadership. See, the people that we elect to represent us should know this stuff. In ninety nine percent of them don't know. And I'm

not talking about something I heard. I'm talking about when I talk to them, very few of them really understand. The most important rule in RAGS when it comes down to minority participation, and that's forty nine cf are Part twenty six. It speaks clearly on how minorities should be involved in the process. I'm so glad you came and

I appreciate you coming out. Man because you know, in the communities that we grow up and we were thinking about you know, basketball, we're thinking about football, you know, in sports to get money. We're thinking about uh wrapping to get money. We were thinking about hustling to get money. And for you to sit here and tell us that it's that's another way to get money, and that's another way to get a lot of money, a lot of money.

A lot of money is a beautiful thing, bro, because we we we have no idea in the neighborhood, in our communities. You know what I mean. Your odds are odds are actually better doing it his way if you want to really come up and get rich, if you really want to come out and be rich, rich, the arts, the odds, your arts, uh greater to go with the route that he's going as a businessman's rich, bro, it's rich. You know, You're not gonna never tell you that. But

the man rich, I'm never gonna say. I'm never gonna say that rich and spirit. I'm rich in knowledge, yeah, and here to share it. You spoke about us having needing thirteenth sent since we represent thirteen cent at the minimum, we should get thirteeth percent of the budget, right, So how much are we currently getting less than one? That's cold bloody. I don't think about this. I don't you

think about this. If the three of us win in business and you put in thirteen cent, and you put in thirteen per cent, don't you gonna at least get thirteen percent back of the profits? Do you know a better investment than the US government? No, not a one. That's col man. That's good. So now listen, guys. The

money is there and it's written in the language. But I want you to think about this with the I'm y'all big brother and our daddy give me a thousand dollars and said Garrett, I want you to break bread with both of your little brothers evenly. So that means I need to give you thirty three Hunter, and give you thirty three Hunter, but I give you twenty since you to brother, I get him left Hunter, since he's the little brother. You don't know no better, so I

keep the rest. So now, when Daddy show up and you said, Danny, thank you for that, Daddy gonna say how much he gave you showed you out of eight hundred, I shot him out of til Hunter, who I got a problem with But see, I'm gonna need that out of that thousand, I'm gonna need that. Uh, you know you're gonna needs Yeah, I'm I'm gonna need the rest of my money d three. But but whenly, here's the problem. See, you did not know how much you're supposed to get because I just gave it to you. But I know

Daddy told me to break bread three ways. But I was heard and say that, Well, you still obviously didn't here because you couldn't count. Because if you count, you to ask for your thirty three thirty three thirty three. The point is the federal government sending rules and regulations down with the money, and they say, here's what to do with the money. But if you don't know what to do with the money, aw, you're gonna know how to ask for him. You know where we grew up.

But in the hood. If I owe you a hundred dollars and you coming in and said, gee, give me my hunter dollar and I'll give you teen, and you burn off and lead the ninety, I ain't gonna throw you down on the ground and put the nine in your pocket. I'm gonna keep it. And that's what's been happening to us. The money has been coming to us, but we don't know how to ask for So do we have to ask the federal government that do we have to ask a local or state? You know what?

Let me tell you something. And I don't like to throw nobody under the bus. I really don't, but we need to because I live here in Houston, Texas, and I know y'all followed the news just recently our mayor, Mayor Turner, and I will kind of judge Mayor Judge her Dogo just wrote a letter to Hood h telling Hood that the Texas government Abbott would not give the money to the sit of Houston that came for Harvard. It went through the g l O. So what happens

is the Texas General Land Office. So what happened is the money came down from the Feds to the state. Y'all know, the money for Harvard was ir mark for Houston, but instead of Abbott sending the money to Houston, he ran it through the Texas General Land Office. Illegal. It ain't illegal, it's unethical. So what Sylvester and Judge Jadago did was wrote a letter to Hood and say, hey, they ain't giving us the money, and so a couple of days later the story changed. Now the money is

coming to Houston. Here's my point. We as African Americans need to write the government and tell them that they ain't giving us our money. But other than that, we need to be able to go to our elected officials and explain it to them. But they already knew. I just said ninety nine of them, don't. They have no clue, absolutely no clue. And I'm not going on someone somebody told me I'm going on interviews, and let me tell

you something. I've only met one elected efficient in this town that understand that, and that the Senator bars Mound. The rest of them don't have a clue and ain't trying to hear it. I'm sorry to say that it's bad. It's bad. It's bad, and so it is coming on us to jack up our elected officiers and say, hey, we need to be more involved in the process. But the way you're gonna be able to hold them accolendar is you have to know the rules. Man, How do

these people even get in office? Man? Remind me of police officers who don't know the law. Their their law enforcement agents, and they don't know the law. I mean you of the times you have common citizens explaining to them what the law is and they're like, well I didn't know that. And you know again again, I don't like to throw people under the bus, but you gotta you gotta tell the truth. Tell the truth, Shane the devil.

You know, I would elected officials in this marketplace, not just Houston, but all around the country don't understand this lane. They just don't. And instead of them allowing somebody who's been trained in this, I've been doing this for a decade every single day. I know the rules and regulations for the damn good. I challenge any lawyer anybody in this area, and I would be able to hold my own on conversation all the way up to the White House.

The key is this, here's what I know. The Office of Management and Budget annually sends out the budget to all the states. In those documents, it clearly states that disadvantage business enterprises or minorities or MWB either, whatever you want to call them, should get a piece of the pie, a fair piece. But if you don't know how big a piece you're supposed to get, if they give you something, you just to take. I've never seen a group of people just happy to get a little something when they

should get more. Where that comes from not used to getting anything? Absolutely, you a little big, you feel like you Well. Another thing that's happening in our community, guys, we got a lot of so called African American elites that they're doing all right. Yes they're doing all right, but they don't want to make sure people right. So one of the reason I started the m w dB Training Academy because to be able to reach, you gotta teach,

and so that's what we do. We teach people how to recognize and understand when it's rilf and when it's RALF right. I saw it on the website it said although we catered to all, our focus is to reach those in the black communities who have been left out of the process for so long. We are a real community of individuals and entities who learned and trained together through live online sessions. M w dB E Training Academy trains regular people and the simple and effective discipline of

understanding and engaging in various sources of public funding. I like that man, public funding. Give me that money, man, Where that money at? Man? How you get to that money? When you get that money. Man, the way you get to the money is read. Okay, listen, I just read. Listen, President Biking Biden just did a two trillion dollar but for Corona increasingly in them two trillion dollars. I guarantee

you there's some minority of anticipation. Yeah. Now, off the top of your head, get the thing and at least thirteen percent of it, at least thirteen So thirteen percent, let's a ten percent uh to training as two hundred billion dollars. We should be able to get two hundred your dollars coming to our community without any questions asked because we pay taxes for minority. You know, it's it's a big, it's a shitty mess in my opinion, because you got to think of how many people you know

fit in the minority. You gotta think, you gotta think about that's a very good question. That's a very good question he was talking about. I'm talking about straight black. But here's the thing. Black Africana, not not Hispan, not Middle Eastern, and not women, not white women, none of that. Okay, So now here's the law says we're talking roughly dB E that stands for disadvantage business Enterprise. Okay, Now a dB E is everybody, including Becky withd a good hair mhm.

And I guarantee you if you look at the spared to study of the despared of study of the despared to study all over the United States of America, back with the good hair, it's walking away with roughly nine percent of the so called team. So the other one percent is split among the other. So this is how they stiffer us time and time again. Bro, with this

minority ship. It's time out for that, bro. We need we got We Black people in this country have a specific set of problems, and we need those problems we addressed to us and us only just like just just like other groups go out and say we got a specific set of problems and we need help with this of that, we need help with black with with what we got going on Black specifically, Let's kill this minority ship, man,

cause ain't nobody else riding for us. Take us, hold on, hold on series, bro, look yeah, exactly take us out because we yeah, you want to do do minority get at it, but we need to have our own ship them because we could, we could, we get we keep getting left behind because we you know, they get to throw these titles around and when they say minorities, okay,

that means let me get out of the so called allocate. See, all this stuff came back in nineteen sixty four with the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act, and when that went down, they weren't talking about all of the other ethnicities. In fact, remember walking across the Edmund Pettish Bridge in Alabama, I didn't see no white women. I didn't see no Hispanics. I didn't see none of them getting bitten by dogs

and by ropes. I saw black people. Now, the nineteen sixty fold Civil Rights Act, everybody knows Dr Marl Luther King, he was advocating on the behalf of African Americans. Now since sixty four, or they're about up to now, Becky with the good hair and her group have figured out a way to manipulate and manipulate and manipulate. They didn't get up in there so much. Yeah, So what has that happened, in my opinion is somebody got to draw a line, like Willard just said and said time out. Becky.

You're not disadvantage, you are not unpriv you are a white woman you privileged. Yes, you're part of the privilege. But they didn't figure out how to rather DAWs them and they didn't get up in there, and they've taken the biggest part of it. Now, again, I'm not prejudiced. I'm not against no race, no nationality. But that's not fair. And then that covers the whole United States of African Americans. Correct, that's everywhere. That's so if I had to fix it,

here's how, here's what I would do. And I'm already working on this, and I have design and putting a bill together the call the Bars Act b a r Act Black America Reforming and what they need to do if they really want to pack fair. They're talking about all this reparation and stuff. Damn with that. Remember that five tree and hold on, I'm gonna get hold on. You know that five tree and dollars that I told

you about. So instead of giving us some reparation, why don't you take that budget, that and your budget and break us off ten percent every year? That's five hundred billion, that's right now, hold on. You don't have to give it to nobody individually. Why don't you establish banks and all this other stuff like you do and put it in there every month, and now sending that money to

black banks all around the country. Okay, and then those communities, those black banks know which African American business is qualified to get loan. So, in other words, when you go try to borrow money and go to Bank America, if you African American, chances are you wasting your time because they're gonna get you to do all the paperwork and

all that. But no, theyin't gonna lend your quarter. They already know that if you had that money coming into a fund where African Americans was over the board, did all the stuff like all other businesses do, then that would change. In other words, that money comes directly to us. Felt that nobody tell us what to do with it.

We lend it to ourselves. And the only reason why we can't come up man in in this society right now, it's because these banks uh Morgan, Stanley, Chase, uh uh Bank of America, Wells Fargo, they refused to loan black businesses money. And if they do, they if they do it sky high, and if they do it in the interest rates. So listen, Brad, I had this conversation with people all the time. If you put thirteen percent into the economy, why you need to borrow something that's my

damn money. Anyway, I don't need to borrow nothing. I just need you to give me that back with some interests. So we're going back to the point that you made about establishing you know, uh funds and stuff with the banks and having black people having access. That's cool, but I want to check to straight to my motherfucking pocket. I'm sorry, man, but I just get piste off. They want to give. They got reparations for every damn body

in the universe except black people. And we know, and we know the only reason why they haven't done it is because they're intimidated by black people, and they fear black people, and they hate on black people and and hate and hate is the biggest one. Just straight up hate. That's why they burned down Tulsa. Hating jealous asses. That's what that was about. So so so I've been I've been hot. I been hot, but we have to do one or two things. We got to get our elected

offishers to do different. But now, don't you think about this, And I'm not gonna call it a name. Y'all can figure out we got some elected fishers that look like us being in Congress for twenty plus years, ain't done nothing. So hold on, how in the head do you think, how in the hell do you think that somebody have been in Congress for twenty years, twenty five years gonna go tell Mitch McConnell to do something that he ain't been able to do in twenty years. So here's my

my fix. Let's get some new people in there who ain't trying to hear what Mitch talking about because we're so easy right now, guys to get along. I heard, uh Carbinsman clap clap burn says something about what let's work on? Uh, what's the immunity? Qualified immunity? How the hell are you gonna work on that? That needs to be the first thing. What does that mean? Qualified immunity? What does that mean? That's the issue with the George

Floyd bill. They want to take that out to allow the police to be able to do what the police to get away with murder. Yeah, yeah, that means that that needs to be the first thing to come out to table. But listen, and we're talking about George floyda all we all know George Floyd our homeboy right here, George home. Here's the problem. The problem is we moaned for George Floyd and his family, but we need our money too, for sure, So we believe in police reform.

But now we need to figure out economic reform. And let me tell you something. White folks would love for us to talk about George Floyd and take our mind off the money, but we need to keep our mind on the money because I guarantee you find this changes a whole lot of things, a whole lot of things. Well, you know, it's it's important that you also mentioned that there are black people out there that want us to take our mind off the money because they're scared. They're scared.

Massy're gonna say something. You better stop, You better stop the getting stop talking like that exactly, and let me tell you something. You're going about challenging at the time. And guess what. Guess what I'm talking. I am damned if you do and damned if you don't. Here's my attitude. You didn't chuck all my money anyway, So what I got to be quiet for you might well fighting. Let me tell you something. I make more money raising mo hell, then most people do. What did he say, let me

tell you, you know what my job is. I cut our white folks, then they write me a check. What's What's I explained that let me, Well, you're cutting out because number one, remember I told you that money is allocated for me and you ain't trying to get it to me. So I got to cut you out to get my money in flame to the Then after I cut, then you see, oh, you're right with a purpose like parting with exactly when I said, I don't mean physically speak, I just have to speak kind of bad to it.

But here is one thing that I found out about business people. If you show him the business, there'll be more app to do it. But how are you gonna show him the business if you don't know the business. That's the person of the m w dB E training can Why can't? Why? Why why is it? Why is it?

Hasn't we've been effective in showing America the business when it comes to black people, Uh, getting some real piece of this American post like they obviously don't see that if black people, a win for black people is a

win for society. For American society, you did if black people the same thing as it would be for any other ethnic group any A win for Hispanics is a win for American society, and win for white people is win for American society, a win for whoever that lives in this country, who shares this space that we share. If everybody is winning, if everybody is getting getting has the same amount of action, then you don't have all

of these chaos that you have. I do believe a lot of these chaos it's because of the inequities that we have in this country. Since time. The opposition wanted to see us broke, since absolutely so I thought about this a lot, and here's what I came up with. They killed Dr Martin Luther King right, they killed John and Robert Kenny right, and scared the rest of the freedom fighters off. The only one that stayed true to

the game. God bless your show was John Lewis. The rest of them went to the pulpit, has started preaching Farrakan Farra con Stoke with car Michael, you know, uh Benjamin out there. But I mean, I mean, just straight raising hair. But they fear, they fear fair come yeah, they fear fair come yeah, absolutely, because fair come. Truth Trump's power all day long. Truth Trump's power. And see when brothers bring truth, they're not ready. Even people in

our community that I know that's so called powerful. When I talk to them, truth makes them humble because they don't know how to deal with me, because I have no problem in telling the truth. And one of the reason I don't have a problem telling them truth is because I understand the rules and regulations on how to survive and provide for myself. Let me tell you someone, I begin to read and understand each contract when they clearly said that there's a piece of the pie for me,

I need to get mine now. If you don't get it to me, get to somebody to look like me. But you're gonna give it to somebody. And what needs to happen is more of us need to know. So again with the MWDB Training Academy, that's what we do. We teach you how to really understand the rules and regulations of the game. Any game. If you're playing basketball in your traveledy on you turn over, if you step out of bounds, turn over. So what we gotta do is we gotta learn how to hit the shot. We

gotta learn how to play the game. We gotta learn how to pass. We gotta learn how to said picks. Everybody said picks for their organization and their groups other than us, because we all want to be one on one in individual and I'll do the next. But what really kill us is we got these people in our community who quote unquote is power players, and what they're doing is playing us because they've two or three friends can make money. And I challenge that all the time.

I'm a firm believer about watering others automatically water myself. The God I served teaches me how to help people. When you help people, you get a blessing. That's what those gatekeepers are afraid of. That's why they're afraid of you. They're not necessarily afraid of you because you tell the truth. Is if you told the truth in private, just between you and them, they wouldn't have any problems. The fact is that you're reaching and teaching and we're gonna do.

That's what they're afraid of. Well already know and guess what They're gonna be scared of me for a long time. Yes, yes, seven, three, six, all the way up the ladder. You know. Again, Like I said, man, I live in Houston. I love Houston. This is my town. There's no better city in America to live. I'm disappointing my leadership, I really am, you know, uh, particularly with Mayor Turner. You know one thing that I hear a lot is Mayor Turner won't do stuff for

African Americans because he worried about what the police gonna do. Well, you ain't got to do wrong to bill your people up, and you ain't got to do wrong for the police to do something. They're gonna do something anyways. Absolutely, so don't let that be the reason. Don't let that be the reason we elected to you to be the mayor so you can help our community. You know, you our community. You know there need to be enough black millionaires in

this town. This town don't have enough African American Millionailting podcast will be right back after the squet. What is the purpose of being in control of the money and you're black and you're not making sure that black people get their fast share of that money? What is the purpose of being in that position? Now? I'm asking all you city of city and state officials out there, because I know you're listening, and if you're not listening your

you should be. You should be listening exactly. So, so I want to know, you know, like what what what good do you do? Do you serve us? I mean, what do you do? What are you there for? Like other than to be a gatekeeper? Right? And a photo photo? I heard I heard um Barack Obama, President Barack Obama say something, um some profound words. Man. He says, I am not the president for Black America. I'm the president

for the United States of America. You know. And as much as I love Barack, that statement right there kind of blew me a little bit. You know what. First, first and foremost, it was unnecessary. What's understood ain't gotta be said. You see what I'm saying. And so it's certain things. It's like it's like if if I know something about you that that that's that's a private situation. Just because it's the truth. And just because I know it,

don't mean I gotta say it. You did. I'm saying, I gotta consider, I gotta consider you know who you know, how it affects you, how it makes you feel, and and you never heard it in your entire life. Even though we all know this to be true, we know these truths to be evident. So hold hold on. Let me at this point that we know that all of these presidents that America has had has been the president for white people. But they never said that. They never said I'm not I'm not just here to be the

president for white people. You know what I'm saying exactly because they know how those white people are gonna feel when he says I'm not just here to be the president for white people. But but him being black and him going through the same um scrutiny as a black man that we all have, I would figure that he had, he would have a different outlook on on the way he ran, you know. So, So Brad Willie, I want you to think about it. I don't get to really

get it though. Who cares about our community rise? Who really care? Oh? Yes, I mean only you gonna have to be the ultimate person to really care whether your community rise. And then you gotta take that information and that knowledge and share it with other communities. See, when you become the leader of the free world, you supposed to do what the hell you want to do. Don Trump. Trump did what the hell he want to do, and he didn't care about whatever other people think. Now I'm

not saying be overboard or too extreme. But you can't tell me, if you're the leader of the free world that you can't do more than what you say you're doing. And that's across the board. Listen to me, guys. We got a lot of people that look like us in major cities, mayors and high places. Okay, someone got like some of them like state reps with big gums, a lot of gum coming anymouth. Let me tell y'all something else. What is that? We'll research it, well, research what's the name?

Uh Tom Scott, Uncle Tom Scott, timmy uncle Tom, Tom sc Chim Scott, champion Tom. So you know again we got you know, it's got to change, and it's got to change now. But we gotta change our leadership again. I'm not throwing rocks you nobody, but I want you all to think. Name me some strong African American leaders in this country. Name me something. I can name a few, but I won't. But I won't do that at the risk of aliot nating anybody, because we do have something

out there. But but but that you're right, though, it's a shortage. It's a shortage, trust me, it's a shortage. Huh, ain't what next in waters? Easy? Yeah, yeah we can. I can name a few across the board, but across the boys across the board, across the board, and a lot of them, bro. So I got another question for y'all, How can you help me make a million if you ain't never had one. My mama taught me the only way you're gonna make a million knowledge and you got

to hang with people that's got a meeting the more. Yeah. But a lot of those kids they got millions, bro, And a lot of them don't. Yeah, a whole lot of them do. Though. I think more of them the higher up you go. They got they got money, they got that paper. You know, I'll be willing to make your bed with a D that it's on the shot. Then I think, so, I don't think so. I know. So you think Mitch McConnell, gotta you gotta don't look like us. We're talking about Yeah, we talked about one

that talk about al Green. All right, all right, all right, we'll see. It ain't a really about how much you can get for yourself. It's more about how much you can give for others. Because the word teaches you is when you water others, you automatically water yourself, you automatically.

One of the reasons why this is pure speculation. One of the reasons that I believe that a lot of black so say leaders per se leaders are not millionaires is because if you are taking a job that pays thirty thousand a year, a hundred thousand a year, whatever it is, and it takes up so much of your time like most of these jobs, duties, these public serving jobs do, then uh, if you want to become a millionaire,

then you have to do something that. Yeah, you gotta do something, and um, it all depends on the job. You know what. The thing is, you gotta do something right now if you take some money, like a lot of these dudes do. A lot of them take money. You know that's right here. Yeah, but a lot of these guys take money. The problem is for black people that might want to play the game is that they're gonna get caught because they are watching before they ever

get in office. They're watching them with hawk eyes. They watching every little mood you make. They're checking out your campaign, you know, your campaign contributions, how that money is allocated. They're looking they sniffing their gray everywhere and the moment you do anything, you out of here. Bro. You can't. You black black politicians can't play the same game that

white politicisan uh play when it comes to taking that money. Well, it is one of the main things that we teach at the m DV Training Cabinet the very first day. There's no cheating. You don't have to cheat to win. If you know the rules, you're going to win, period because the way the rules are designed, they are designed for us to win. Huh. But if you don't follow the rules, you're gonna lose. Listen. I don't care if you the mayor, the president. I don't give a damn

who you are. Okay, Listen. Two thousand fifteen, Barack Obama signed the Fast Act f A s T. And in that Act it clearly states that of the fund spent in the Transportation Department should be expended to the disadvantaged business enterprise can unity. Okay, Now, the problem is this a mantag business enterprise community is including Becky with the good hair, so that's who getting the biggest part of

the ten percent and Becky with the husband. Probably I want to straighten something over here fast before we go any further. All Bickie's don't have good happen. But that's the Beckie with the good hair you're talking I'm talking about. I'm talking about. That's just a metaphor. What's the good hair could be anybody who's cheating, because chances are Becky with the good hair do not perform a commercially use for function. And that's the term that everybody needs to know.

Go ahead and elaborate. Performing a commercially used for function is what we talked about about. A nice code. What's your what's your trade? What do you do? What's your trade? I make music? Absolutely you know it been in in all your life? Right now? How I look like go and get a music contract when I'm a pipe man? But I'm rather douzl enough. Now I got the music contract to do this big show for the government, and I can't do nothing. But guess who I'm gonna go to?

Brad said Brad, I got a contract. Well, what you're doing with the contract in the first damn place? You ain't in the music business. But I knew how to rather down to get the contract because I knew I could go to you and give you some peanuts. Yes, we gotta stop that. Come on, we gotta stop that. So a lot of our black leaders is in the mix, in the way. Get out of the way. You're in the people way. And so what we teach you the

MWB E Training Academy is understanding your names code. Because if you know your name's code and you know my name's code, when you see me with a music contract, gee, way, what you're doing in this line? Baby, you need to get in the pipeline. Stay in your lane. Stay in your lane cause you're in the way. Now, how are you gonna come up if I'm in your lane? It's hard, especially if I know a lot of dotting and everybody mm hmm. So for you to know the difference, you

need to be taught. Now, I'm not saying this to the opposition. I'm speaking even in our community. Let me tell you something which is embarrassing. I live in Houston, Texas with the m WDB Training Academy is absolutely positively free. The brothers and sisters in Texas won't even take the time to register. I go anywhere in the country. You

was in the class. I got a room full of sisters from Alabama, Georgia, Florida, North and South Carolina want this information, and until we want the information to win, we're always gonna lose because this is what we're gonna say. Well, they keep getting the deal to the same old people, or I ain't certified what I'm gonna do until we learned understand how to play the game. Come on, y'all been in the music and y'all know the music game, so you gotta know the game. You gotta know the game.

And it's for me to teach my young brothers and sisters the game. That's my job, that's my college. And I don't care who defends. I can't tell you how many of my friends are my associates hate I'm saying these words. But if you go and look at me, I've been on the White House steps, I've been at the courthouse. I'm gonna speak truth to power no matter where I'm at, it doesn't matter. I'm not doing it

for money. I'm doing it because I want to see my community grow, Because I feel, like Willie do, feel we need our fair share. Why are you sure changing us If any minority group paid the way here, we even't paid the way fifty times over Look, the Korean just gotta be a pass and what two months something like that, Yeah Asian Asian, I'm sorry two months. Yeah, And we've been trying to get this anti lynch and

act putting effect forever. Man, I'm just trying to get an anti black uh, some type of anti black act. So we need so so what we need, brothers, in my opinion is we just need new leadership. I just think the leaders that we have is outdated and stale, and the opposition been hearing them talk to them for twenty five years and ain't done nothing. So so you're right.

But at the at the same time, I just want to add that it's important that we understand that we can't wait on leadership because some people feel like, well, since we ain't got nobody leaders, I'm just gonna wait till it happens. In the meantime, you gotta get up, you gotta push man, You gotta get up and make it happen for yourself no matter what, because I'm gonna tell you something. You know, like, it don't matter who's in the White House for me, it don't matter who's

the mayor. You don't matter who's the governor, you don't matter who the senator. Years whatever matter, Willie gonna always get his I'm gonna always come up, I'm always find a way, my kids gonna always have it. Ain't no man alive, no man made. A woman can stop me, period And anything a man can do to me, I can do to him. So I hears nothing for real and I'm so And it doesn't matter if a Democrat or Republican gets in office. Look, man, at the end

of the day, it's really about who you like. You know who you who you can stand and look at and listen to for a four to eight years because all I'm playing for the same team. When the when the when the Republicans decide that they want to uh engage in voter suppression and your presidents say, well, you know, we're trying our best to stop and we were doing our best. Listen, fan, you wonder why the Democrats appear to be so weak. Why do they appear to be

so weak? That is because they benefit when the Republicans appeared to be so strong. They still no matter how it goes, at the end of the day, they both sides, and the benefit the Democrats benefit from the Republicans side. Any time of Republicans, whatever they do the Democrats benefit Just like from that with the insurgence on the sixth of January, the Democrats benefited from that because a lot of Democrats hold those same values as those people that

rushed the capital. Does a lot of Democrats hold out those same values. So so so so Willie, absolutely, Willie and Brad, I don't try to check this out. Look at our leadership across the country. Look at our leaders, and I'm talking about African American leaders. Most of them came from Harvard and all these Ivy League schools, all these so called quote unquote good schools. So they friendly,

they friendly. We need some brothers who, yes, we need a mix of brothers who ain't quite so friendly, like Bobby Rush out of Chicago. We need some radical brothers that will tell a friendly brothers. The Holy Player were just too friendly. So here's my take. But the Friely

dudes got the churches, and the churches got the voters. Well, that's right, but guess what people in the church, at least my church, we know bull from the real And again, if you look at our scope of our leaders, that's significant, all of them Harvard and all these other schools which ain't got no rough EDGs. We need a little rough head. So here's how I look at it. In America, if you're black, you either Toby or Counter. Ain't no in between. You either Toby or Kumter. So who are you? Ain't no,

ain't no in between, ain't no other name? Toby boy Kumpter. And until we established and understand that because a lot of brothers try to act like the Kunter. But you know you Toby, be Toby. It's okay. You don't have to get around us and be Kuter be Counter all the time. So now do you worry about what happens to your little pocketbook because you around quote unquote the elite and you Toby wrong answer. And that's what the problem is. We need more stronger brothers. Period. I think

you got period. I think you got Toby Counter and Stephen A. Smith. Come on, Willie, everything was going cool? How Steve am getting? You know the same way that that that Candice as got in? Bro? You know what all that all that book dancing and yeah, well that's that's that's that's Toby. And no, no, no, no, no no, because keep in mind, you know Toby Toby had it's Toby had coop the kid. They deep down inside of him.

You know, he still was cool the kid. They because keep in mind, Toby continued even when they chopped his foot, he continued to try to run. He continued to make a break heat. Toby was never they Toby was never satisfied with being a slave. He never he never accepted that. He til the day he died, he never accepted that. So you know, you know, I gotta but it's again,

that's my that's my opinion, and everybody different. But again, you know, whether they I don't know how you are, but I'd be willing to say, Okay, I gotta damn on you, thank God, oh man. And guess what I've have seeing something. You know, I'm at that age guys where I've seen how it used to be version how he is now. And let me tell you something. Our young brothers and sisters coming up now, they don't remember all that old crazy stuff. The millenniums ain't trying to

hear that. They don't understand what you mean they did to me. They don't know nothing about what happened a long time ago. And that's what we need. We need some people who don't care about that what used to happen, what had happened. See if you sell that to me, and sell it to me year after year after year after year after year, I buy into that. The new kids coming up, they ain't never heard that. Man, I don't want to hear that. So it's up on us. It's on us, the elderly, the real ones, to teach

them how to stand strong. But not not the elderly, the elders. Yes, the elders. Yeah, yeah, I love my age. Let me tell you something. I didn't start growing up until about twenty years ago. I was left boy up until the end. Oh but boy, if you knew better, you do better. You know what I'm saying. I'm remade. I'm a whole different man now. And what I realized that I didn't realize before it was it was all about me. Now it's about what I can do for

other people, which is a much better life. That's where your value comes. Want to feel good? Yes, sir, Yes, sir. You know I can go anywhere in this country, and wherever I go, guess what they're gonna lay out there? Welcome back. Yeah, And that's what it's all about. A Voice Reloded podcast will be right back after the point, do mean solid take um, take a little time and and and just tell the listeners what all you've done in your career as the pipe man. Oh my god,

we want to started. I mean't go ahead, that's what's interesting. Um. Probably I don't know, thirty years ago, maybe thirty, maybe more than that. I U. I was living in Los Angeles playing professional baseball, and uh, the guy that I played for he owned supply company and sold twols shop supplies and safety equipment. And in the off season I would go and sell products for his company and made three times more money than I was making playing baseball

San Nego Padres farn Club. Anyway, UM, what I realized about playing in somebody's organization is that you just a piece of the organization and you do whatever you have to do to get what you need to get. And so I realized earlier on that to be able to make it any life, you gotta do your own thing.

So I cut a deal with the company I work for to move back to Houston and start a supply company, which I did, and I did real well, and I gave a brother job and the first thing he brought to the line item was piped mm hmm and the rest of in history. And that was back in eighty four.

What areuse some notable jobs that oh my god, man then supply pipe to the lasting pipeline right here in Houston recently in the last year, so we supplied uh four miles and ninety six inch pipe to the what's the name of the job right here in UH It'll come to me in a minute. But we've done project stuff like on two eight eight, you know we do major project is uh a highway here in Houston, a freeway here in Houston, and um Mr Wade laid the reboart up under that particular freeway and I know that

pay to go Sillon dollars. But God is good. God is good, you know. I think. I think what happens in life is uh, you don't count it. You don't you don't count it In Dollargy County and how you can help people, we had a lot of people, get a lot of people job. One of the things that I'm being on man is paying taxes back into community and hyding people that look like us. Why can't we be employers other than having to always go work for Mr Toby you know. One of the things about tax

dollars that you spend. We put the tax dollars in, and the best thing I like to do is keep putting it back in. How you gonna keep win if you don't keep putting it back in, you know exactly. And until our leaders understand that that's what it's about, were always gonna end up in the last place. We gotta we gotta get a new leadership. Guys. We gotta we gotta change the leadership. Just that simple, you know. That's why. That's why it's so important for us to vote.

A lot of people think that voting you know, local does not affect us in absolutely Bigo, more so than voting for from telling. I'm telling man, we need we need leaders locally that understand what's going on in our community. You know, yeah, we do it. That's why again, like I said, man, listen, anybody knows me, No, I support Bars miles to the hill because I personally see what Bars do for our community, not to what somebody to

tell me. He's a squabbler. He fights for the people, big time for the people, and his love ain't about how much he can get, It's about how much he can help other people. Yeah, and I know that about Yeah, So I I know very few politicians that I could say that about, and I know quite a few of them. Now I'm not saying I don't like what they do. And everybody got their own issue that they like to

work on, and I get that part. But again, we need more than turkeys for Thanksgiving, bicucles for the kids

for Christmas. You know, we need some contracts, We need some opportunities in our community, We need some always kind of feel a certain way about that annual thing that you know, uh, giving out turkeys just for Thanksgiving, you know, like you know that's one meal out of three d and sixty out of the year, you know, and that's that's a that's a lot of absent meals, you know, Like, you know, I don't the whole thing with just you know,

just it's being charitable is good. I think it's good to have a day that commemorates that, you know, kind of like like prompts people to action. That's kind of cool, you know what I'm saying, reminds people, hey, this is given whatever. But uh, we do need the type of programs that that are reoccurring. You know, like it's not just a thing that happens once a year, and you know, to be a daily those programs are there, They are there,

They are there. Listen, you name a program and I'll show you where the money is your marked to go to us as a part of it. But what happens to that money though? If what happens to the money, what happens to the it is because we're not knowledgeable how to get it. It goes back to where it came from. No are they use what's called the good faith effort. Good faith for me, We tried to find somebody, but we could So now we're we're gonna give it to who we want to and as you live back

in with the good half. So so is this part of the discretionary fund what you talked about, both discretionary and mandatory. Listen, every dime spending this country comes along with minority participation. Everything everything we do publicly, everything got a minority goal in it. Everything. Now, what's the purpose of having a minority goal in a project if you don't know how to get it out? So going to get certified ain't nothing? Are you qualified side to get

it out of the pile? That's the key. What's an example of some jobs that a person can like, perhaps laying a government contract where it doesn't take a high degree of education. Okay, very good question. COVID COVID COVID nineteen was just rampant. People wouldn't even go to get those shots, go get tested or nothing. I recommended a couple of sisters in this town, and I'm not gonna call their name, put a business together and guess what they did? When do to do knocking? And convinced Ms

Helen and her family to go take the tests. And every time they did that, they got broke off. H You ain't got to be no doctor. You ain't gotta be noneing. All you gotta do is be smart enough to know how to put the deal together. Contact Tracy was a good contract. A lot of stuff, Um, what's that? What's what's our board? Named? Tadfolo? His son got a got a van to ride around doing testing. So it's a lot of things. You gotta be innovative and creative.

You're you're following me? Does listen? Almost everything in America got a public component to you. Just gotta know you're lane. Do you have to be does your business have to be established. No, no, absolutely not. Listen. Listen. If you're a minority, you broke. So the most important thing is I'm broke, ain't got no money, needs to help. But guess what, do you have the knowledge? See when once you get the knowledge, you don't have that excuse no more.

So what we do is we run out and start these businesses but don't have the knowledge because we think, oh, I want to be a truck driver. I'm gonna broker truck stipe because I know my boy got two trucks. No, you gotta know the game. You gotta know the business. Being a minority. Don't say nothing about how much money you start out with. In fact, from zero to one point three to million knowledge, you consider the minority as

an individual. From zero to twenty three point nine eight million dollars over appeared to three years as a corporation, you consider the minority. So whatever asset you can get between zero and one point three two million before you get tapped out, it's where you need to be. Don't you want to be tapped out? Everybody out to be tapped out at one point three million. And guess what when you look at the grand scheme of thing. One

point three to million ain't deadly, that's deadly. You give thirty three million Americans, African Americans one point three to million, Now, how much money it is? Okay, thirty three million Americans, you give them all one million dollars, that's okay. There ain't no money, all right, there's not a lot of money. That's not a lot of money. It's not a lot of money. When when Biden just signed a bill, look the corona, the care of that. They say, ain't no money.

How many people turned down the fourteen hundred dollars? How many people turned down fourteen hush? Yeah, So don't tell me you can't generate it. Now, it was felled out black and white. If you did X, Y Z whatever, you're gonna get fourteen hundred dollars for you and four hundred dollars for the kids and all that other stuff. It's felled out black and white. And that's how all the other money is. We just don't take the time

to go to find out. They didn't. Well, I didn't get so so when you think about is that a lot of money? It's three trillion dollar When you look at it like that, one point three to no. Not if you break it up and get everybody one point three to million. Now, that ain't no bad, but how much? How many million? One point one million? That's what they need to give back. What I'm saying is to tap us out, to tap us out as minorities no more. Yeah,

everybody one point three to million. Now I want the one point three and a leg and on from you, dirty, low down muck man. It's for the assets, is man. I'm man. I get mad when I think about how they did this bro like and then still trying to do us and didn't act like we don't diss the paper. That's time. We didn't build this country, bro, we built this man. It's nobody, nobody in this country deserve more

prosperity than black people. Nobody, period, break period. Man. So now think about it when you think about what you just said. Over the last thirty years, maybe more than that, we've had black leadership, we had black president and unchanged. So until we change leadership in the mindset, we're gonna still be doing the same thing over and over again. Because most people, like even with Barack, everybody all black president.

Me too. I want to see a brother president I couldnot grow up and have my kids and my grandkids and say, Papa, you don't both Barck. I couldn't ever had it on me. But not only that. He was a shop brother. You know. He wasn't no dummy. But still the end of the day, when you get in

the drive a sheet baby, you got to drive. I looked at it like you know that first that first term, I was like a lot of people like, okay, trying to tell you because we gotta get gotta get in second time around, you know, and you know, but second time, you know, second time you gotta come on with it. And I'm gonna tell you something, bro. Hey, if you go down and go down. But they had to kill me, bro, because I ain't no way I'd have said back and play like play that game, man. I'm going in on

them food. I'm going in and those police officers, oh, they've been to get it. Let me go back. Not gonna be riding around here just gunning my people down. Bro, I think I ain't gonna let me get back to you. You don't remember saying unions that was educated hard and when educated that is you. She we gotta have some brothers. That's from the hood. That understand how I really really go because most of the brothers that leader ship from Harvard and nothing against them, they're good old boys and

yeah all that. Yeah, they already been broke. They've been broke from the rill. We need something that ain't been broken. We need something that's black for real, you know we do. Yeah, Man, it ain't no way bro. Like, Man, I'm in office. Bro, look, bro, and I'm not gonna have no bill with no food that called me, you know, out of my name or whatever, like having a bill with these foods and man that old man. Man, get up out of here with that. Bro, just going down so you don't have to go along

to get along. And that's what we're going along together. It's going down. We're going along to get along. And until we are realized that the opposition ain't our friends, you know. And all these people got killed on the rock Watchman and most of these people and then killing just kept coming, killing, the killing just kept going. Broke, going and going and going and going going. I'm not man, I'm not with that in the activity. Bro. Like, if you got the power, man use it, like damn what

everybody else think? You know, Look, Uh, Donald Trump was one of the worst human beings ever invented. And I say invented because he had nobody could He could not have been birthed, you know what I'm saying. This dude was invented, so yeah, exactly easily one of the worst ever ever ever. But this dude decided that from day one, y'all don't like me, and y'all y'all y'all don't know, y'all don't like me. I don't like y'all. Y'all not gonna vote for me anyway, and no matter what I do,

y'all not gonna appreciate it. So I'm just gonna do to me. I'm gonna do me, and I'm gonna look out for the people that's voted for me. That's me. Like, man, if you ride for me, I ride for you. If you love me, I love you, You hate me, I hate you. I don't give a damn what your nationality is, your ethnicity is, whatever, it don't matter. Like you ride for me, I ride for you, right eas Yeah, this this this whole thing, man, all it is cooled by y'all stuff. Man, And sometimes man, you gotta just put

your foot down. Man, and make it happen like I'm Look, look man, I'm a loving not a fighter. You know what I'm saying. I mean, you know, I'm a loving not a fighter. Man Like I I like the idea of peace. I love that. But man, if we can't get alone exactly exactly and it's time to fight, it is time to fight, you know. Let me tell you. People are always tell me with get away of your radical. I'm not radical, just tired of the river round? Is it? I mean? Enough is enough? And too much thing and

ain't nothing changing? And the people that I elect to put in position to take care of me, how are you gonna take care of me if you don't know nothing? And then you ain't even willing to sit down and listen. Well, if you wasn't black, they call you a rebel, not a radical. You know what I'm saying, because you rebel like you know, like that's that's a good thing, you know what I'm saying that. Let me tell you something. They don't call me o'rever. Don't know what I'm saying.

They don't because you're black, you know what. Let me tell you what. They called me everything but that, but they can't question my knowledge about what I do. And that's the part they get them because not only do I speak it, I can support it with the most important thing, and that is the law. Everything I teach I preach, I can support it with the law. And

that's what's about, you know. I I developed a handbook called a forty niner, the forty niner, and it is the rules and regulations of basically how you get the money, just exemple. And not only did I develop a handbook, I teach it. Now. There's nothing wrong with us wanting

economic wealth. We deserve that we should get that. And even if we hadn't gotten it in our day in time, we need to make sure that our kids get Listen, I have a grandson and nine, your grandson of Wally, I'm gonna do every damn thing I can to make sure him and his little homeboys got a shot did it? Yeah? Did y'all hear what he said? I'm gonna make sure. I'm gonna do everything that I can to make sure that my son and Andy got a shot at got a shot at it. They got a shot at it.

And the only way they're gonna have a shot at they got to know how to shoot. She confidences everything. If you knew better, you do better. You know a lot, a lot of the issue that we have is the people that do know better, when they get better, when they find when they figure it out, when they get to the paper, they move away, they get away. They

never look back. They don't go back, and they don't look back, they don't reach back, they don't And to me, to me, I really do feel like they're a bigger issue than the regular person who don't know anything, who is uneducated and don't have a But and I know some of you out there who got it like that, you would thank you all of that. I know you think you're better than those people, but you're not. You're the problem. You're you're a bigger problem because you know

big blocking shots, absolutely, you're a shot blocker. Then you know better running interference that's absolutely on purpose. Yes, listen, let me tell you something. Our opposition wouldn't be so raggedy if the ones who they had to deal with every day that looked like us told them straight up, you raggedy. Let me tell you something. I have no problem at all. Remember when I said cussing our wife folks the check when I say cursing the amount. I

don't mean calling them names. I mean speaking to them about the truth. And they don't like it. It feel like I'm calling them everything but the child a girl. But I'm telling you the truth. And when I leave their office, they go and reach it shut and say, he right. See truth, Trump's power. And if you don't like the truth, you don't have to like me. And one thing I learned is just because you don't like me and don't want to do business with me, thank you,

but no thank you. But I'm gonna tell you the truth because I refuse to accept peanuts to be a part of the party, ain't gonna do it. Yeah, And that's some truth for yo. You know what, let me give me a box. I sleep under the box. But to God, I served said, he's gonna look out for me, just you look out for the people. Remember what I told you, watering others automatically water me. So the deal that I covered, God, if I take care of Brad and Willie, you got me, that's the hell of a deal.

Like that deal, all I gotta do is look out for him. We look out for other people. That's all I gotta do. All I gotta do. You mean, tell me, God, I all I gotta do a look out for the other people. And I'm straight, so the more I can look out for you. God got me and he rewards me for every time I do something good. And guess what, every day I do something good. Every day. I live

to do something good. That's what I live for. Because if you got a zillion dollars, once you get a double meat hamburger and some French fries and a drink, what you're gonna do the rest of the mother to the next time you need to spend something. That's all I need right now. We're a lot of like in regards that I'd rather eat crumbs with bombs than steaks with snakes exactly. You know, why do why? Why? Why

do we need to do that? And again, our opposition only do this because we allow them to do it. They just do it because we ain't putting them no resistance, no fight, no. And the ones we like I said, elect to put in positions, they ain't gonna do nothing. They just gonna go along and get along, go alone and get along. And I am not the kind of dude. Yeah, I ain't got to get along with you. You ain't got to like me. You don't have to like me, just respect me and I'll tell you something else. Gary.

Since we're talking about elected officials, I think that's something that we need to make sure that we look out for when we are deciding if we want to take part in the political process and we're gonna back somebody, I think that you need to make sure that before we select somebody and say I'm gonna put my resources behind you, Yeah, my money, you know, my support, my reputation, I think we need to make sure that that person has a track record of already doing good in the horse.

Then you can't just pop up out of nowhere and tell me all these great things that you're gonna do if you don't have a track record already. And this is one of the things that problems that people had that voted for Donald Trump had the people who know teeth in their mouth and the trailer parks when they thought that because Trump was a millionaire, it was gonna be me. I'm like, look, man, if Trump, if Trump loved you and cared about you, he's been sitting on

money all of his life. Where is his track record for doing something for you in the past. He's never done anything for you in the past. What makes you think once he becomes president he's gonna do some Trump and his people And again, everybody knows that's who he is. You know, people ask me where what if if I was Trump boy me and it was cool, he posed to look out for me. I have no problem with Trump looking out for his boys, so long as it's legal and legit. And we should have the same attitude

in our community. So long as it is illegal and legit. Look out for your boy. And guess what when the oppositionship, but why you did it for will A d that's my boy, and it's legal and legit. You ain't got to like it. Vote me out because when I vote, when you vote your boy in, he posed to do what he's supposed to do for you because it's legal and legit. Now, if you're doing undercover and wrong stuff,

you don't need to be there. And guess what, anything done in the dog come to the light sooner or later. If you're doing it in the dog, it's gonna come to the Light's gonna come to the light. So you think you're getting away, but you ain't going nowhere and until we start understanding that public officials is public servants. They're supposed to serve us. You know, you walk around almighty. I wish I would buy do you for what? But what you work for me? And you work for me

your money and your check you get. I paid you, player, and if I pay you, I need you to do something for me. And that's the truth. Yeah, I need you to do something for me. Gary Man, I really do appreciate you any time. It's been an enlightening experience. Gave up a bunch of games, and I know you got some more game to give. What's the name of the website, m w D b E Academy UM Minority W Woman D Disadvantage Business Enterprise Academy Free f r E. I teach a thirty or two hour class four times

and year to any business I prefer African American. Gonna get a twisted there, I do. But if it happened to be some white folks want to get in, come on down the water's fine because when you teach one more learned, and it's all about teaching one thing. I've learned about this particular lane. Public sources. We don't have a clue. We don't know where the money coming from. You can even ask a lot of public of fishers how this project was funded. They don't have a clue.

Don't have a clue. They just know it's funded. And so until you understand where the money comes from and the terms and condition to go along with the money, you're gonna be stuck. Like chuckam w m W m W d b E Academy dot com, look it up, contact area, he gets you hooked up. You did what I'm saying, Fam, Until next time, no more talk, peace out peace. This episode was produced by a King and brought to you by The Black Effect Podcast Network and I Heart Radio

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