Tim Shaw

could be adult content this week on the podcast. I'm so excited because I have my first athlete, Tim Shaw. He played football at Penn State. Then he went to play for the Carolina Panthers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Chicago Bears, and Tennessee Titans. What and he recently was diagnosed with a l S and has become a spokesperson for a LS and put so much inspiration and awareness to the disease. And it's amazing to hear what he has to say about that. He also has several businesses that everyone must

know about, especially if you live in Nashville. One is hot Box, which is the best way to get to work on it. So get excited. This interview is so great and I know you're gonna love it. Here's Tim Shaw. Hello, Tim, You're sitting here in your lovely house. This is Tim Shaw, everyone, and it's amazing. How long have you been living here? I've lived here from a little over a year, but I moved from like this ultimate bachelor pad to this family home. So it's been a cool adjustment. I know,

you know, I think the bachelor days are. It's fun to have a bachelor pad. But even as we get older, like Michael and A thinking about like getting more like beautiful, neighborhood oriented, little safer, a little like more quiet, family oriented. It feels nice. As you grow up you do things like, yeah, adult thing is not fun, but it is necessary at times, it really at times, I guess it is necessary. Let me check our levels here. Okay, I think we've got

this doubt into him. Um, so how has adultsing? Ben? How old are you? Thirty? Wonderful? Wonderful? Not for two months long or a couple of months. I'll be thirty terrific. Yeah the words right out of my Is that what you're going to say? Yeah, I'm thirty terrific right now. Ye, it's a good year good. The thirties have been like real life. I think the thirties are underrated. I think people glorify the twenties, but I think about all the mistakes we made in the twenties. Idiot just now becoming

halfway logical in my head. Right, So the thirties are I think. I'm excited. One have been great, thirty two can only be better, and then you have thirty tremendous, three mendous forward to thirty three minuts is the one I'm turning July thirty. Yes, my girlfriend comes up with all these catch phrases. I'll look for your calendar that coming out with all the So what have you liked most about the thirties. I really liked transitioning from an

athlete to a businessman. It's been really fun and challenging, um and almost creating a new identity for myself. To tell me about it. What was your original identity and what is your identity now? What's funny? Identity is something that I've so I go with a lot. I think when you grow up as an athlete and you have success and success to the NFL, it really defines you and and everything you do revolves around that life of

being a professional athlete. So regardless of whether you want to be or not, it essentially is your identity because yeah, and it's it's something that I thought, you know, I didn't want to be, just that I didn't want to be lay what was that or pigeonholed or any of those things, But it really was such a huge part of who it was. So it's been really cool too. You know, it's been difficult to leave that life, but also really great to realize, hey, there is more to life.

There are is, um it doesn't go downhill after the NFL. Life can get better and more enriching, more filling things like that. So what have you found to be more the most enriching that you have experienced post NFL. Well, when I talk about enriching, it usually involved other people. Rather than just making my life better, it means making other people's lives better. So for me, that's really involved, um, not only giving money, by giving time to certain efforts

and organizations. And I'm really excited about an organization and I'm part of right now that we're starting. It's called very tesse Elite, and it's a performance company that is going to UM impact youth through sports performance. So just using UM people who are are excellent, excellent physical trainers UM to influence kids that way and and just be good role models and too, UM be mentors and teach leadership and things like that. So I'm excited about that.

We're just started in two thousands and sixteen. How did you get this going? I met these two guys, these two trainers that are just infectious, and they're so good at what they do, and I was thinking, how can I come alongside and enhance what these guys do. So I'm able to bring some some business acumen and some money UM to help kids the program going UM and

just watch these guys do their thing with the kids. Okay, because you also have a football camp, so you're super busy and super giving back, which I love about you. I've noticed in all of interviews I've read about you, you love spreading joy to others. I think can listen this is something that needs to change because I think you say a lot of people aren't like that. Here's what I believe. They're like that because they don't understand how it enhances their own life to go out and

impact other people. So when you do something, you know, quote unquote charity work or you know, a mission trip. Those things they sound really um, really religious or or really like goody, but but they're not. They're what they are is they're impactful not only other people, but therefore

they impact you. And so every time I've left a mission trip, every time I've done a service project, you think, oh, I'm gonna go and do good for these people, but you walk away having enriched your own life way more than you could have impacted the people. You're like the way you feel, the things that you learned, the perspective that you gain. How do you feel when you do things like that? You you feel selfless and um, it's a term that we understand, but it's not a feeling

that we experience all the time. So you have this feeling of there is so much more there's so there's so much more important out there than me. There's so much bigger of a picture than my life. There are so many people out there who need things more than I need things. So you just feel this sense of of bigger than me, in this sense of goodness in the world. And so my hope would be that you would in a year from an hour or whenever you would say, you know what a lot of people are

doing that. Yeah, I know a lot of people who live that way. And because we're out here, we're striving for us, us to us right, And I've the same thing I was. I was trying to make it much money as I could. And and we do that, right, we chase things, but in in and is stopping pursuing the money and the fame and start pursuing things that impact others and serve others in your life will be just so much better. And it's hard to it sounds kind of weird, but it's just I want people to

try it. I want I want people to hear my words and go, no, that's not true, or just try it one time for me and let me know. And I want you to experience. I want people to experience that feeling of being impactful and and seeking something that's greater than yourself. When did you stop chasing as much like, when did you stop chasing? And when did you stop chasing success and fame? When did you really commit to this mindset? It was a slow process for me. It's

such a great model of Yeah, who was your model? Well? What I was what I would call a model of servant hood. And um, first of all, my parents. My parents are people who, um, you know, blue collar, followed with a teacher, and my mom stayed at home and took care of four boys. Bless yes, so we're not talking about a wealthy family. But they were always showing us how if you give what you have and serve others.

They would always loan someone in a car. They would always, you know, if someone was in town and we didn't even know they needed a place to stay, they stayed at our house. I mean, just constant um acts of service.

So I had that model, but it was it was really in college and in the pros where UM, people started to encourage me, Hey would you come and speak to this group of people, UM, or hey I'm going Well a lot of times it would be speaking about my faith um and and or speaking about my football experience. And any time you get a chance to speak to a group of young people, you really have to check yourself and say, what do I have that these young people can benefit from? So that's where you start talking

about Let me tell them about leadership. Let me tell them about how did I get to state to play football. How did I get to the NFL? Then you start talking about hard work and things like commitment and dedication, so um, it was then I think it was speaking that really started me on the path of understanding that I could be impactful to other people and and that turned into service projects. So um halfitap for humanity. One

of my favorites. Just the fact that you can go out and a group of people to build the house for someone else in like four weekends. Blend so many people just siting and getting drunk on the weekends, when really you can go change a whole life. Oh, it's amazing and people do this all the time. So if you if we open our eyes, there are so many opportunities. Um, you don't have to give your life away, you don't have to give all your money away. You just give a little bit of time once a week, go to

and after school program. I mean, there's just so many opportunities. So for me, it was gradual process. And I'm not there yet. You know, I still like to make money. There's nothing wrong with making It's about what's your where's your heart at and and what's your purpose and all those things. So what is your purpose? Man, the greatest question ever asked. I know, are we all trying to narrow that down? Life is a journey of finding purpose. You know. For myself, I know that God put me

on this earth. He gave me a lot of gifts and talent and abilities. And for a long time I thought football was my purpose. I believe it was. But when I more so understand how I've gotten, you know, pretty wonderful good is that football is just something I did to express myself and it was my it was my avenue to be impactful. So my purpose is to possibly impact people and more specifically positively impact them. Um to find their own purpose. So I do that through

whatever it is that I'm doing. And it was football for a time, you know, and now it's it's businesses speaking, is um certain? So let's talk about football. How did did you grow up playing? Because are you from England? Did you re raise in England? I was not raised there, but I was born there. Just one more layer to your cool, just let you throw out there like, oh, by the way, you know, queen and good you know

you're the queen. Do we have some tea here? But okay, right now, okay, I was wondering, wait till okay is a holiday? Um, so it was. I moved to Michigan actually a great state of Michigan. Okay, I'm trying to just get all off in your necktime there you go. Okay, when the people think that you know, you got it's a nice neck. So I moved to Michigan when I was very young, from England. From England Michigan. Well that's where mother's from. Okay, yeah, my father's British from my

mom's from. So she moved to Britain for love. Yeah whoa your m the story in itself yeah, okay, absolutely, yes, that's a shot man. We were quite dangerous, clearly moved across the whole country for the whole the world for a man. Not country, new country okay. Yeah. So it was just growing up with my brother and I we

loved the game of football for no reason. All my parents were athletes, um, and first of reason, the game really just look you spoke to me and as a sixth grader, bade my parents to play, and it was I was in love from that point forward. I just the game was made from me. I just love the physical contact of it and just what was required of you to be great? What is required to be great?

What's required is everything you have, So you like to give it all to Oh my god, I I don't know another way really, and I'm it's It's one of the things I'm most proud of my ability to commit to something and give it everything that I have. So that is an amazing trait. By the way, it's what it's what I did was football from day one. It was like, as soon as that they showed me like, hey, this is what it takes. Oh okay, I just went

and it was that when it takes. What took to be great for me was UM, working hards and everyone I saw, and then UM allown myself to be pushed to limits I never thought I could. So what happens when you get to those limits and you actually do more than you think you can't? What happens there? What happens is you expange your mind. Because what we do

is we limit ourselves. We put um, we put feelings or you know, we put stopping points on well, you know, I could never do more than this, I could never do more than that. And the problem with that is is typically when we put those limits on ourselves, whether I mean, this is life right, this could be reading, this could be business, this could be whatever. And as soon as we put those limits, then we actually we subconsciously we make ourselves live those limits out. That's interesting.

It's like telling yourself, and you know what, I'll never get into med school. So you might go ahead and try to study for the exam, but you you don't pass it because you if I told yourself, I'm not gonna get in if I won't, so you study with that in your mind rather than saying I'm gonna get in. And therefore, when you're studying, you're thinking positive like I'm gonna I need to pass this. I'm blah blah blah. But yeah, and so what's really The human mind is

so powerful. We we convince ourselves right or wrong. And so for me, it was allowing a coach or a teammate to push me beyond those limits that I had set for myself and and understanding. I remember my high school coach, um, he said, you know, it's a tim look around you. You may be the best of what you see, but there's people out there. You know, when you go to college, everybody was the best of their high schools. It's it's explaining your mind and setting new

limits and breaking through the old limits. So when you first felt that, did it feel amazing? Oh? It's added. It's an addicting thing. Um. You can become addicted to success or to even just achieving thing. Right, That's why people set daily tasks for themselves. It feels good to check off the bobs, like, hey, I did that, I did that. Um, so we can use that in a

positive way. Right, you become addicted to getting better, become addicted to improving yourself, become addicted to helping be I mean, either things that can just propel humans do great heights. So you you love football. You discovered it when you were like in fifth grade or whatever. When you said so, then you decide you set this goal You're going to go to Penn State. Is that a goal you set? Well, it was the goal have to get a college scholarship somewhere. Okay,

so you got stake, Yeah, options you did. First, you had a lot of timp show your shop are I mean, as a high school kid, I'm not gonna lie to you. I was a grown man. I mean like I grew up so fast physically that when I was in high school. Man, then who you ask? Okay, okay, but you've always be respectful, of course, that's of course. I feel like we've got a dog track. Okay, back on track. Because that was

so physically um advanced from my age. Colleges were very tragic to me because I'm already size and speed that they needed. So yeah, um, I had a lot of college options. But George, Pennce State, why did you choose pens State? Was m was different? It was far enough from home but not too far. It was blue collar, It was a very um story program, very respected, very big, kind of all the things I wanted in the college program. And I just really was blown away by the people

there when I went to visit. So I really had a last defense that it was awesome. You love phin Sate and you switched positions, like you played something at Penn State and then your first college was not college? Was Carolina? Right? Professional? So what did you play at Penn State? So football is a game where yeah, the younger you are, the more the coaches will try to find a spot are you? And um, I was an athlete,

so I played running back in high school. I played linebacker in high school, both those, but every college told me I was going to be a linebacker. Well, I got to Pense, I played running back. I thought that's what I wanted to do, and I had some success, but then they switched my position while I was there, and ultimately I played linebacker and that that turned out. It was difficult at a time, but um, it really

turned out to be a great thing. Obviously I played in the Pros playing linebacker, so it was definitely a positive change. So you went from you're now your linebacker. You went to Penn State, Carolina Panthers, then you gotta Jacksonville Jaguars, Chicago Bears, and then Tennessee Titans. Are you changing positions? All these teams just changing teams. So we started special teams at Titans, right, So specialty teams is not a different position, It's just a different phase of

the game. I think a big misconception about pro sports and the NFL and specific is that you go somewhere, you stay there for five years and you know, retired. But a lot of guys jump around teams not because they want to, they jump around because one team says you're not good enough for one team. Says we have some people like better or oh my gosh, oh my goodness. So I was I was cut. I mean I was

cut four four times. How do you handle that well, I mean it's uh, it's very humbling, obviously, but it's those type of things where they make you just they really make you check yourself and check your ego and really, what do you believe in? How bad do you want to play football? Because when when the man called you upstairs and says, Tim, thank you for your time, but

we're gonna let you go. Um, you know that's difficult, so you need to really I want I want to go through it again and and fight for another chance. So that four times I was yes over the court. My first four NFL seasons, I'll paid for four different teams ash. So that's emotionally exhausting. It wasn't amazing too well. So playing football in the NFL is an amazing experience. It's when I was a fifth grader, that's what I wanted to do. So you'll be able to live out

your dream from from child. Who is really a special thing. But you're a special club. Once again, not everyone does that. You unique is unique. It's a very very small number of people who make it to that level. But with the good comes to bat and the bad was being cut, moving every year, um, losing friends, you know, going through just the instability of not having any job security and no commitment. So just that that affects life, It affects everything.

So I was so committed to being a football player and reaching my potential as an athlete that it was just never an option for me to stop. So when I got cut, even the third time, actually just kept making me stronger because after the first time, I got picked back up, and after the second time, I got picked back up, So it made me I knew that I could play this game and I could play at

this level. So it just built my confidence. And thank goodness you got cut last time because you ended up in Nashville exactly finally brought me to where I belong and this is where you belong. It is Yeah, I love it here. And I spent three and a half seasons here playing which was fantastic, and really just enjoyed making Nashville home, getting comfortable here, the people, not just my teammate, but the people in the community across Point Church.

And I'm jealous that you and Pastor Peter actually like real friends, aren't you. Well, you know, he's my celebrity crush. We've gotten together. He's the coolest person, which is our creature cross point. I'm a little bit jealous of his hair. His hair, if I could have that hair, I mean, would be a movie star, not a football player. Yeah, I mean, I hear you that here is pretty fantastic for anyone listening. Is Pastor Pete a cross point church

that we're talking about. You'll see google his face. Yeah. So Nashville, you got to Nashville, what was your favorite team? Like, where did you have the most fun? Well? I was not in Every city I played in was fun and every city was a cool city. Charlotte's great City, the Beach, Chicago, just always something going on. They love football so much. But the reason that Tennessee was special. In Nashville, people

are so nice. But also just two be living down thousand to have that Southern hospitality with I just love to hear. But so I had a blast because I got comfortable, and that was what made it so fun. To be valued and to be um contributing members of the team and to have success. That's what made the game so fun. It's the relationship that you built around you and make it so fun. So yeah, I had success on other teams, but it was that camaraderie and

brotherhood that I built that made Nashville so fun. I know, do you have any favorite players from the Titans, like any besties? Well, actually, by the way, your tattoo, which I was asking about earlier, it's so cool. I've never seen your tattoo like this. Well, it's all I have the idea of this, this concept of brother who's love, and the idea that you know, brothers are made for times of adversity, and and so I'm a m I have a tattoo that that includes my biological brothers but

also my my brothers from another mother. You know. I love that. It's this concept that I know, these guys always had my back, and whether we're it's still as close as we were, you know, when we were closest or not, it doesn't matter more. So I can look back and say, hey, I know this guy you know loves me, has my back and would do anything for me if he came down to it. So just that's so sweet. On the podcast, it's such a sweet tattoo though,

and um to get real, to get really real about it. Um, I got this after I was diagnosed with ail US, and I experienced probably loving a way that I hadn't prior. And when you think about football players, you think about these tough guys, right, and not everyone on my arm is a football player. But imagine, imagine, um me a tough football player with the sweetest heart, with the sweetest heart. Now I have to tell my best friend the news that I've just been given. How do you do that?

And so if I could do it in person, I did it, but most of them were over the phone. And Yeah, what I experienced in those conversations was the deepest um, I broaly love that I've ever experienced it, which was um, big strong, scary football players showing me, is this a big, strong, scary football her calling right now? So that was a bad timing by him. Hey, he just wants to be a part of this podcast. Bring on.

So picture me calling another you know, intimidating football player and having to tell him that I've just been diagnosed with a death sentence and just feel and here the raw um honestly motion and cared for me from these guys, even to the point of of weeping and sobbing it together, you know, And that's a real thing. And there's something that this is even blew me away in those moments, like, man, this is this is someone who cares about me so much.

And so that's what really birthed the idea for this sense too. So how did you get the news? Um, It was a long process of figuring out what was wrong with me, and we kind of just jumped ahead of fighting story. But but it was through a series of events. While I was playing football, I knew my body was messed up physically. The things that I was doing,

I was just starting to struggle with im. I mean, I'm playing football, I'm playing NFL football, but little things like I'm punching on my hand or a step up my foot, I just didn't feel right. That's it hard to explain, but this didn't feel right, and I'm losing strength. My upper balty was kind of getting weaker, and so well I'm storway short. The Titan end up cutting me. My performance kind of dropped a little bit, and I had to keep going to doctors too, you know what's

wrong with me? So ultimately, Um, I finally with diagnosed at Vanderbilt, and the doctor just um, he said, hey, I wanted you a second opinion, but I'm I'm very positive that you have a LS. And at this point, I don't feel like there's like a huge awareness happening. My grandfather had it, so I knew what a LS was, but like, I don't feel like it was like a world conversation at that point. At if you this was April, and if you would have walked the streets and said, hey,

what lugar disease? Hey, what's a LS, majority of people would not know. And so it's kind of a big part of my story is the timing of popular Yeah. Right, I mean, so it was April when I was I knows, well, August the whole world decides to dump water on the head, right, So, and I'm like, this is this is amazing divine timing that guess what I hadn't I hadn't come in public with my my diagnosis yet, So it was just really

perfect timing. Yeah, so you decided to announced that you did it on the Titans website, right, Yeah, I conducted the Titans. There was rumors flying around already, so some of the titans new what I was going through, and I said, hey, let's let's do this right, Let's make a video and really be impactful. And so you know, for the first time ever, I was turning on Twitter. Um, I got Insta famous. You're super insto famous. Follow me T Shaws truth shats Truth. Yes. And your website which

is t Shat's Truth. Yes it is. I checked it out. It's t shirts Truth Yeah, because t Shall speaks the truth. How do you feel like the ice bucket challenge affected the awareness veils didn't help? Oh, it blew it up and in such a positive way. The Icebuger Challenge was a breath of fresh air to a LS. This blows my mom when I think about it. But the disease that we call Luke Gregs disease, Luke Garrick had LS

in n W seven or between nine. It's like seventy five years ago, totally, and and nothing had changed in that time. I'm exaggerating, but barely. The The pridnosis for someone is still two to five years in seventy five years. Why has there been no research on because it is very it's a it is it's not a very common disease. And therefore it's under funded and therefore it's nothing's been done at at a fast pace at all. Do you feel like now there's more research happenings. That's amazing the

biggest impact of the years. But your challenge was not only awareness, but the awareness that led to money being donated that therefore these two research being done. There's more being done in this the last five years. I've been done in the seventy five years prior, right, So, and that's all awayes And they asked like a challenge was a huge, huge part of that. Do you feel like it was part of your plan to have this platform?

How do you feel about that with God? Because I know you're super Christian and faithful super or super Christian social hashtag super Christian hashtag, faithful, faithful hashtag. I wish I'll tell you what first and foremost, I don't like it. I don't I don't like that that this is what I'm going through. Actually hate it, and I wish I wasn't going through it. So I wrestle with is this my purpose? Is this part of my plan? Our? Rustled with those same thing and got I you know we

have fights about it. What do you tell God, I tell him. I don't like tell them to take it back, go give someone else, you know, um, because I don't want to do it. I don't want to walk this road. But a big part of me cannot deny the enormity of of my platform and of what LS has brought, and the way that LS has brought me to the forefront, and of do you know what to speak on it? And being able to give a face to a disease that was known as blue Cars disease for seventy or

five years. Now LYS will never be known as tim Show disease. Thank God. I don't want to be but I know that I have a platform right now to positively impact this diseason and people while I'm going through it, I can impact. So I hate it, but it's it's here, and it's it's mine for not well, I guess they say. I mean, you know, this life is so temporary. You are being called to use your life in a huge way, which is kind of annoying when you're on earth. I

feel like, you know, it's very annoying. It's like I don't want to be using used right I just want to go eat to pharmacy burgers. You know, I'm drinking beer, So yeah, So you don't want to have to be that faithful every day. Life is so short and I know that better than anyone that I know, and it's hard. The only way to know it, like I know it is to be going through what I'm going through. And it's not fun, it's it's lonely, but but it gives me a perspective, and it gives me great purpose and

it allows me to really be impactful. It allows me to make the most of every day. It allows me to really dial into what is most important, allows me to eliminate a lot of garbage in my life and things that I don't need and things that people that I don't need to be messing with, and all types of stuff like that. So what what have you doubt in as most important? Most important? Number one is relationships and who who am I spending time with? Who am I impacting? And who am I allowing to impact me?

So those are first and foremost of of what is most important. So after that, it's it's what can I do two be my greatest impact on the world. And you know, if I'm gone in a year, will I will I have made them so of what I've been given. So it doesn't mean that it doesn't mean that I can't take a vacation or it doesn't mean I can't

take a nap. It just means that if I do those things, make that, make that be the priority for that day, and say you know what, you know I needed that, I needed that, So what it doesn't mean I'm being lazy? Um. And then you know what, when it's time to go and serve someone, go and serve someone, and and really just being a in tune to doing the things that are important. And for me it's really

almost more so of eliminating things that are not important. Well. Um, going back to the relationship thing, there's there's a lot of relationships in our lives that are are not beneficial either way, and we waste a lot of time. Someone wants to get lunch or copy in is you know that they're a toxic person and know that you can't help them, it might not be worth your time. There's someone you know, it's just a matter of choosing the best action versus going, well, I may as well do that.

No if if that's not what you're supposed to do, don't do it. I um, it's easier for me to say that than a lot of people. But I know a lot of people who spend a lot of the time doing things that they would run not do. Why do people do that? Why? A lot of different reasons. But you might feel obligated, you might not want to hurt someone's feelings. You might um be trying to do

someone a favorite. Yeah, my endlestries, it's easier to say yes and the same or you know what, you just don't know what's most important, or you're not in tune with what you really should to be doing. So do you feel like over through football, through and now through a l S, do you feel like you have gotten really self aware? I am so self aware? What does that mean for you? Number? One is physically, I'm self

aware of of every movement I make. Alys has forced me to so down and contemplate before I do anything, and that includes getting up out of this year. I'm gonna have to figure out how to get that done. So Number why, I'm self aware of that. But also it has really made me forced me to evaluate my time and my energy. So what am I spending my thoughts on? What am I putting into my brain and

then who am I spending one time? Was? So I'm just so aware of of what I want and what I need and what is most important because I am not under the illusion that the world is under, which is we have time. It's a oh, it's such a busting. It's such a bussing. Now you pay the price for it,

but it's a busting. And for everyone who's listening right now, if if there's something that you would really you know you're supposed to do, but you haven't done it because you're saying I know I have time, you're lying to yourself. You're fooling yourself because you don't know. And just because it hasn't happened to you, you've seen it half dollars where life gets cut short. And so this is not a no, it's not a negative mindset's not morbid mindset.

It's a mindset. If it's most important to you, do it right now. Why not If it's not the most important to you, then don't do it right I mean, it's it's plainly simple in that way, and it's not as easy and I'm making it sound. But if your husband says you are the most important person to me, But then he constantly chooses just since spend time with someone else over you, then then you're not most important.

And and that's my point of what you're doing, what you choose to do at that moment should be the most important thing. And it's a difficult way to live. It's a difficult thing to get yourself to that point. But I'm I'm at that point. I'm I'm seeing here right now talking to you because that's why I deem most important. I'm not doing it as a favorite of you. I'm not is right now is why I be most important to do. And um, so I'm learned to say

no to things that are not let's say, even good things. Here, here's what we get caught up right, there's so many good things. We have so many good options that we can do. It's okay to say no to something that's good. Someone wants you to come and play a song in their charity event. What's a good event? But you know what your mission is over here. Maybe you're mentioning it. No, that's not my charity. So it's like it doesn't wrong with saying no to something you know what you're mentioning it.

And you go down that path. So it's it's my mindset. It's totally changed. I mean, what is your mindset is just what is most important to you? Do you have like a motto of tim Shaw motto, like a life motto, I don't, I don't, I don't want one thing I don't want to come across is that it's what is most important to me. It means that it's a selfish motto because when you a lot of times what's most

important to me is doing something for someone else. Right so, um, it could look very selfish or it could look very outwurd focus, which is what I really want people do probably get their lives, is our focus. And um so for me it's hey, what is the most important right now? The point of of me talking with you is I think there's some things I prayed that there's something that I might say so that might impact one and this is a great avenue to have them here. I'm gonna

say something and tell me. You might think I'm crazy, but do you think you are kind of like a prophet, you know, like one of those chosen people who was called to this earth to really enlighten people. Because you have always been that in my mind, like a beacon of light. And you've been faithful, but you're never pushy, you know, like so many people who are super faithful shove it down your throat and the last thing you

want to do is believe what they believe. You know, you have always been this beacon of faith and I don't know, just like bigger picture and now you have this big platform, like I wonder if you are a modern day profit. Well thank you first of all, but I mean the answer is no, I've never I've never thought that. I've always known this. I have always known this from from high school on, is that that guy has given me a platform and he's given me the

ability ability to communicate. So the combination of my platform and the ability to communicate, I've really felt a responsibility to two um kind of like like you said, And to me, what that means is, I want people to see who I am and how I'm living. I don't need to preach, I don't need to um shove any religion or or anything or shoving agenda. I just want people to see the way I'm living. I want them to say, man I want to live like that, or man, what why does he live like that? Or why is

he different? Why is he what is this stuff he's talking about? So I just believe that people are most willing to listen when you know, when they know you care about them, when they know you're not trying to change them, or you know, tell them they're wrong, because guess why I'm wrong. I'm not also, and I'm I've made a lot of mistakes and I've done a lot of wrong things. But ultimately, where to love people? Where

to impact people? So? Um, I no a profit, I don't think so in life maybe past Oh yeah, you'll go neck and nect it might be Yeah, it's a close cough. Okay, So let's talk about your businesses because you are a businessman. Yeah, I love it hot Box, which that is thriving. Everyone in Nashville I know goes there. So hot By business is the coolest, most badass work out. You're gonna get still too scared to try. I know, I'm gonna do it. You need you're The problem is

you'll get addicted to so. I mean it's just you know what it is. It's a place where people go and they just feel comfortable of being themselves. Right. The group of people that work out there are just like family in um it's just such a warm and inviting environment. So I physically cannot take a hot box close anymore. My body won't do it. But I love to just go in there. Yeah, because the energy is great, and um,

I love the staff that worked there. It's just it's a cool place to be in and people are in there getting healthy, which is awesome. You also own a co own a music venue. Well, the music men you failed, So listen, I'm not the best businessman in the world. Okay, I met some failure. Um, I was a part owner of twelve the Porter for a while. I didn't know it. Yeah, yeah, more No, it's it's going to reopen here truly. Okay. Yeah, that's if you're going to own a venue, that's the

one to go for. Yeah. Well, you know, we're trying to restaurant in there and just didn't go well. But so hey, we all have failures in there. Well, I don't really think it counts us I really don't believe in failures anymore. I used to think failure was a real thing, but I kind of think it's just a way too redirect your course. Absolutely, absolutely the reason and then my money too, right down the Usians lifestyle, you know, musicians terrible. But I have another a couple of other businesses.

The one that I think I want the world to know about. It's called Music Loft. Music City Loft, that's right, and Music Loft is they're condos. They're vacation rentals downtown Nashville, Fourth and Church. I mean, yeah, I cannot get a better location. And these kindos are just beautiful. They are you know, exposed brick and wood beans, you know, and just all really unique and cool and um this is where we run these out one weekend basis, so people coming on on VRBO and it's just a really really

cool way to come and stay in Nashville. So it's kind of like a bed and breakfast but way modern and tighten with air to kind of do different websodes. So how many do you have? So I have? And are they getting rented? So this is great? Oh yeah, Nashville is great. I mean Nashville is awesome. The way that people are just experiencing Nashville now, I means the growth, the tourism. It's such a cool city be a part of right now, just the excitement surrounding our city. Right

in Ationwy people are moving to Nashville. Gosh, hot spot. So a partner and I own them, and she does an amazing job running the operation. Just a pinmal business woman. And it's just exciting to be a part of the market as it is right now. Any other businesses, Yeah, I do a lot of a lot of real estate investing. That's risky business. You're a daredevil. Well you know all that stuff. You have to you have to pick into

the right spots and it is risky. But but in the nationals booming the market like Nashville, you had to pick pick your good spots. And I'll tell you what. Here's why I'm good at what I do. I'm so smart that partner with smart people. I don't have to be the smartest guy. I don't have to know everything, but I needed partner with someone who does. So I really pat myself on the back for picking great partners and therefore we work better together. You always loved it.

I have. I have And the NFL hell allowed me to experience, you know, approachsing some houses and that might not want to move or things like that. I kind of was able to start figuring out the markets and how it all works. But ultimately, I'm you need to surround yourself with fire people and to always get good advice and always m be thorough in the processes that you're going through. Who has been the greatest influence on your life? Well, that's a question that brings a lot

of people to mind think about. I spent so much time around my parents, so they've greatly influenced me. Just all those things, like little by little every day, every day, every day, so such great examples of of humans who just want to third others and do right. Um and then it football. I've had a couple of great, great mentors and great men who have taught me that there's

more to life than football. These are guys like Rizzy Pleasant and he was a Titans chaplin for seventeen years and just this, guys like Dying Wild can look back over while life as they man. These people cared about me enough to tell me that there's more than football. You wear two different colors, she's quite often what is the reason for this? Tennessee's and dressed too. She was.

I noticed like I saw you all spiffy and not today, I saw you all spiffy though in a suit and you kind of a black and a brown one that takes some balls. The basest one I've ever done it. And I'll tell you what. This grandmother that I met at the wedding where I were wearing those, she was after you. Oh she didn't know. She said, what what? What happened here? Said? Don't you like? She don't care. She's gonna tell you what? Number one. I'd like to

be different. I'd like to just so that's something simple I can saying, you know what, I'm different, And that's kind of my way. I say I'm promoting diversity, right, you all should be different, but I really believe you should. Just you don't want to be yourself. Yeah, don't be afraid to stand now, stop following the crowd, stop doing what everyone else is doing. Come on, let's let's be ourselves. Let's be original. You don't have to do something crazy, right,

But really, it started off as an experiment. I was trying to see if I was an influential person. A little test trends years ago, five years ago, you're doing that? Yeah, now listen, I think people are starting to catch on. Five years later. Yeah, if you go yeah, you'll see it more and more. Okay, so when you see that, I'm not saying that I started it, but I think you might have so, and I think you might be an influential person. I think the verdict is out and

it's come back. Yes, but I think in the fashion world, Oh no, now you got some, you got some your you got some, you got some swag. Okay, so let me I want to make sure I've covered all the things I wanted to talk about. Best man, Tim, tell me about that. Oh well, you're my best man, Tim, You're welcome. That was a it was a fun writing effort that has really worked out. So okay, now we're going with the t shats strong. I like that. And

you also do a walk ye the Nashville. There's really a lot of good stuff out there, and I would to encourage everyone that find the cause that you can get on board with its right. The Nashville had the Musco Distrite Associations Association. I mean, they do funders rails. So I just tried to get on board with those and just help them with their efforts. They've already got going. I'm just bring my added a little om to it. So um, those are a couple of things I've jumped

on board with. But I would encourage people, you know, find whatever that that causes that you can feel connected to um and and find something that they're doing and help them out. So you love to travel, You're like quite the world traveler. You're kind of a dar devil too. Where have you gone? And where are you going? I'm gonna wrap this up in like five minutes. I'm trying to keep these in an hour because he'll get bored after an hour. Wake up if you got her sleep,

wake up, wake up? This is wake up now. I think everyone's wide. So I love an adventure. I mean, like tell me, like when you did you know amazing? Right, that's like the stuff that I would just go for, right. I love that stuff like this, show me, show me where the Clifford and I'll jump off right. It's like that's the kind of guy I am. And So I've been to Brazil to dig wells. I've been to um Costa Rica. I've been to Haiti a few times. I've

done all types of cool projects. I've been places to serve. I've no places just for fun. Last year I'm went to Australia and New Zealand. I bungee jumped off the Auckland Bridge. I mean, I love that stuff. This year, I'm about to go to UM the super Bowl. Actually I'm about to go to From there, I'm going to Australia and I'm gonna go to some different parts that i haven't been to yet and then gonna go to Bali in Hong Kong. So I just love an adventure. I don't have a bucket list or just so let's

show me an opportunity and I'll jump at it. That's kind of yeah. I feel like you can either make your own opportunity or you can jump on some something like calling them boy. So I'm all about just taking advantage of of what's putting funny yellow. Yeah you know what that was? That wasn't popularly long enough? I love yellow off too quickly, didn't bring that, Let's bring it back. Michael says that my husband like every day because he's always trying to do stuff that I would probably say

no to. But it's like hey yellow, oh yeah, okay, okay, So I want to play a little game with you. Just two questions, just rapid fire. It's not really a big game. How much money would it take for you to tongue kiss a monkey? Oh? Like five dollars? I know. I mean I tounk his dogs all the time. You know when you go to Bali they have a monkey rainforest. Well, I'm not. How would you feel if you're forced to unload an eighteen wheeler full of skittles and organize them

my color? And what would your strategy be? I would use a leap blower to give them out of the truck, but I would unload them into buckets and then I would eat all the red ones that would like eliminate one color. Yeah, that's a good plan. After that, it would really just be a random kiss and checked month take a lot of patients. I wouldn't enjoy it. If a movie or too made about your life, he would play you and why well I think the Rock? Oh nice choice. I love him. Good ones. He's super positive

to Yeah, he's great. Yeah. And if you if you go by the rock, you have to be a badass. Yeah, Okay, leave your light, which is leave some inspiration for us light. Whatever it is that you're doing, whatever it is that you want, make sure it is the most important thing. I love that. I think I think you're evaluating what is you want and what you're doing. Um, it's really really, really important. I love that, Tim. Thank you for an

amazing interview, Tim Shaw or whatever. Could you tell everybody that just like all the people that can make us a hit? Great? Okay, everybody's endorsed by Tim Shaw. Listen tune in words. Thank you all so much for tuning in. I hope that you loved hearing from Tim Shaw and you got inspired by his story. Next week is exciting because I have my first fashionista who's joining me, Sarah Davidson. She is a little badass. She opened a store called Kitty and it is my favorite store in Nashville. Has

the cutest clothes. And she's going to talk all about opening a store, running a store, being in the fashion industry in Nashville. And she's also a musician and she was on the Private Lives of Nashville Wives. She's got a lot to talk about. You're gonna want to join in and hear that next week on Hyper don't forget to subscribe. Thanks by guys,