Mallory Ervin

You guys, Mallory Irvin is in the house. If you don't know Mallory Irvin yet, then get excited. You're about to get to know her. This girl has more energy than the Energizer Bunny. She is the sweetest, brightest light. She was Miss Kentucky, then runner up to Miss America. She's been on The Amazing Race three different seasons. She has voted back a fan favorite, and now she's a freaking YouTube star. Her YouTube page has makeup to Toris, it has clothing, it has all of her wedding videos,

her honeymoon, workout tips, cooking tips. She literally is your one stop shop for everything, and she is so much fun. Here is Mallory Urban spirit fingers, so sorry Urbans with me like old, I know, isn't that great? Which I have in the world to get a caroline. You're one of the few people in Amazing race history though, who

has ever done amazing race three times. Well you would think there are times charm, but it was not real far from didn't quiet go as a planned right, it didn't, but like you know, you're close your dad too, so like my dad was my partner and y'all were team Yellow and Yellow and it was just awesome and like we almost want we almost wanted this. So how many times? What what place do I get? First time you did it? So the first time we made it to the like the leg before the leg, so maybe six six six,

y'all got six. So y'all made it like the episode before the final right, So we didn't go to like elimination station or anything. So we made a race quester. We were the decoys, so we like ran the race to like fake out people so that if people took pictures around the world the right fans because it was the most follow amazing race and like follow the race, they try to keep up what they do do, remember,

like fans do like in all these countries. Hey, hey guys that like you watched it too, there's a big fan world out there. So y'all were the decoys because we were So then we came home. We were at home, so you know, I've just done Miss America and then like we go straight into the race. So we come home from the race, and it's kind of sad that we didn't win. You know how it is like the first time and you didn't win because you were like all pumped up. It doesn't take a minute to recover.

It takes a minute to recover, like physically and mentally and emotionally because you're like, all of a sudden, where's my camera crew following me around? Now I'm doing all these things that are going to be seen by the world, and like, yeah matter and so then all of a sudden, you're like nothing matters. Now what am I supposed to do? Exactly? So we were at home, like dejected in our house, and it was like, you know, a week after the race had finished, So it's still three months until it's

gonna air. You know, you got it like that secret time, Yes, And the phone rings. It's Len Spielman, the casting director, and they said they would never do never do another All Star season ever in the history of the show. Why you said they would never, like they had already done enough and like they were going to do other things. You know how they always say that real dramatic, right, So I answered the phone and she was like, hey, when I would you and your dad be interested in

do an All Star season if we want to do one? Um, you know, she's real, well, yes, yes, what to do? You know we're still in the half of the last one. So I run downstairs. My dad has no idea that it's even an option. As aid Dad, what's the best thing that could ever happen to you in your entire life that you never thought in a million years would happened? He said, amazing Races is havn't an All Star season? And we got cast? So you and your dad just loved it. Oh man, it was like our thing. But

it was like, well, okay, I need to preface. You have so much energy. You do too, but no, you can like put so much energy into a lot of things at one time, Like I can do one thing and I can really give it my all and then I'm tired. But you can do it in a million different categories. So I feel like amazing races. Finally, the one thing on this earth that utilizes boundless energy. Yes it was good, but it's bad for like concentration and like being serious and stuff. But then that's where my

dad came in. You are the perfect team. You're the perfect team. And like he's such a prepper, like you know, he's just climbed Everest this last year. He's here in the climate again. He said, you're just your dad just climbed not Everest for fun. And he's like, what hell does sixty? You just climbed not Everest for fun at sixty. It's not fine for the family. I'll tell you that right now. Okay, so you and your dad were made

for masonaries. I always energy, and now your dad is doing crazy things like climbing every Yeah, so he like I was a wild crazy, just a wildcat that would kiss a text driver if I didn't have any money, or that would like run straight on. Well, my dad asked me to do that. Your dad asked you to kiss the taxi because we don't have any money. We don't any money, like kiss him. I mean, you talk about a serious man on the amazing He's like, we're gonna use everything we got to. Wevery tactic. So did

you get some taxic crab drivers? I don't think I had to kiss that one, Thank the Lord. It wasn't gone. It was hot, it was slitty. Oh my gosh, I had like call me were all my hands? You know how it goes when you tell these stories to like normal people that don't get it. They're like, wait, what you were aware? And what were you Why were you doing them? Yes? I was raising around the world for a million dollars. You've never seen the show. Yeah, but um so my dad he's so awesome because he's like

a prepper. Like he's got like the clothes line and he's got the packets of the turkey. He used the duct tape to like tape up the car. Yeah, he's just a pro. So. But then I think he just got this thing from the race. I think he got this bug in and like he had to just keep adventuring and adventuring and adventuring. So after a second season, I'm going to do all seven summits. He said before I turned sixty seven. Summits. What do you mean seven

summits kill him? Okay, to Everest, like he's gonna do all the mountains. So he did all the mountains. He did, He did them all he did. Dad just doesn't say he's gonna do That's the thing that distinguishes you and Garrit your dad, from everyone else is you don't just like have these grandiose ideas. You have them and then you actually do them, and you don't just do them, you do them. Well, well, thanks, that's nice for me to say. But how Hotell, he didn't make it off

one of these dang mountains. So he's going back, he's going back. What's wrong with I don't some something's wrong with him. Gary. You know, he says like he's like he's like something about climbing mountains. He just he loves it. He loves because you know, he's running these big businesses and he's just a very successful man. So he loves going on these mountains because he's just free of everything,

like he can unplug or whatever. And he said, he always says this quote, and I think it's really cool. He's like, if you don't believe in God, climbing mountain He's like, there's something cool just on the top of that mountain. It's just it's just something different that he's never been able to find, like anywhere else doing anything else in the world. But like everest, okay, do it once lived a good job. Way to go, Gary, He did all seven but he said no, so he needs

that huge rush. He does, so he lives for that, like adrenaline rush. You know, he's a piloty he does all these other You have that same need too, Yeah, but like I got some common sense about me to know maybe the body can't withstand this like more than once. So yeah, so he's going in September. He's going to do it again because he it like a hundred and fifty or something steps from the summit almost there. Oh, so he doesn't feel like he completed it. But people

were like, because people everybody's done. They're like, Gary, if you keep going, you're gonna die. But people were like literally dying right, yes, like a lot of people. It's not even a joke, Like this is for real joke. So yeah, so that's my mom. I'm like, I talked to my mom. We laugh all the time, like he's gonna die. It's not funny, but he is. And my Mom's like, if the lord's going to take him, I ever, then he's going to take him on the couch and saying Now, I was like, no, you know, you can

get a little closer to coming out, Mallory. I don't know. You just gotta pray for him. Do you just have to let it go? You can't worry about it. Yeah, because you know, he's always like, I'm not gonna stay at home and like get old, and like he keeps saying that I'm not just I'm not gonna let myself go.

He's like, I have to have something that is so challenging and so physically, mentally emotionally taxing that it keeps me young, it keeps me a lot of He's me living for something, and I wish you'd choose something else. He's really gotten to the top of the top of what you could actually pick for that rush Like he's all the way up there. Okay, So you grew up, You're you're just like such a fascinating person. You are. You grew up on a compound with twenty three cousins

and y'all all lived together. I need to know how your childhood looked, so we call it a compound. Compound. It wasn't like a weird compound. It was like a cool compound. And we just call it compound. Because so my grandparents lived, your dad's parents, your mom my mom's also lived in the same like county, but not on the same farm. So it's like out in the middle of nowhere. It's called box Ville population like whatever my family is at the time. And so my grandparents and

then we all built houses around. So there's six siblings in my dad's family and then all these kids and I'm the oldest, and here's the oldest of all twenty three. I was the queen. I was the chief of Wow lord, yes, yes, I was the balls. Yes, you are the lord. I don't know. I had to like let go of that, Like how did you let go of that? Because you had a whole like army underneath you. I mean it's tough, and you can run a ship at that. I can run a ship because you know, you had places to go,

Like you're not one of those people. I was like, oh, I don't know what to do, like you know what you want to do. Well, that's why I can do a lot of things that once, probably because I grew up in this where there was so much going on even though there was nothing going on. There were no restaurants, there was a Walmart, it was fifteen miles away. We had one high school in our whole county. I mean

it's such a small town. But you know, we lived a worldly life when we were little, Like, you know, I think it was the minds of my family that you know, they brought things into our houses that like, it wasn't about where we lived, but you know, that's just this setting. It was just cool in the backyard my papa, but he's still life, still make a moonshine and bourbon. Like he's having his help, like make the mash for this for bourbon, like making family bourbon. Everybody's

like into hunting and just all this awesome stuff. I mean, it was just it was a really cool way. Did you play with your cousins every day? Oh my gosh, Yes, we built things, We sunk things, we wrecked things, like all twenty three of y'all play every day? Did y'all divide up into groups? And it was like I had

twelve siblings all the time. They were always like ten kids sleeping in your house and like everybody's like piled into other people's cars and you don't know where your child is, but you know that they're at one of their ants with somebody hopefully. Wow. Yeah, so it was fine. So do you just love going home? Yeah? I mean it's just you know, like when when you have an

upbringing like that, like you always want to capture. I try to like bring it into my own life, Like my siblings live here, even though we live in Nashville. I'm like, we gotta keep this family thing going. Like just this last week we went to Veil altogether, and it's just my family is just all about just having the best time with our family. Like that's always been

my best friends. Where my family. And you know, whether you have like a small family or whether you're married into a family or whatever, like make your family and like those your people, and I love that and have fun and enjoy other. Okay, So you said when you're growing up, you learned how to do all sorts of hobbies all the time, Like you just would pick up sewing, you'd pick up flying an airplane, you pick up What

kind of hobbies have you just picked up? Because these aren't just like little hobbies like learning that you could lately, like you can do a lot of really complicated things. Yeah. So, I mean I think too when you have a creative mind, like you come from one thing to the next and the next and next. But not everyone does that really well, like you do well. Thanks. I don't know if I've necessarily done it well, but I've definitely done it. I mean, I just I was interested in so many things as

a child. I always was like creative, creative, and like I love to sing and dance and act and you know all that stuff. But like when that got a little old to me, then I just start like picking up. I got learned fly airplane. Do you learn to learn and play an instrument? Or can you fly in land and air? I have a student license, so I learned in college because like you just need to learn a flan air plane even though I don't fly. Yeah, I mean that's a great thing to'll just learn how to do.

I don't know if I could make myself. I feel like I just just do it for my resume. Sometimes you know, you can actually take it off and land it. Yeah, a small plane, but I'm a little rusty so okay, and then you just learned the ukulele. No, I didn't finish You didn't finish that one. Yeah, but like with the sewing and stuff, like if I'm not if I can't master it pretty quickly, I'm move on. You're moving on. Yeah, okay.

So what are some other hobbies that you have? I mean, like obviously love beauty, everything makeup and fashion and stuff like that. Like I used to make my own clothes whenever I was little, and you know, stuff like that. And then like beauty, that's always been a huge thing for me, and once you got interested, you got you just owned it because like glam is so fun and

like everybody, everybody loves makeup. Everybody loves like feeling beautiful, and that was something that you know, when I was ten years old, I remember like starting to do people's makeup and just like loving it. And even though I was singing, that was my main thing and stuff. I always had all these other hobbies, but that's one thing that's kind of woven into like everything that I've done. It helped me out at Miss America, which leads you

to Miss America, which is so random. So explain to me how Okay, you grew up in the compound population. Family is where you live, and now you're like, okay, here, I am coming to do Miss America. So it's well, it's just really random. So I didn't do pageants. I was not you weren't a pageant girl. Okay, well how did you get into this? So I mean, and now

how I was like, I'm sure you are. You're like five, like really five, like five, just five flat fat, fat flat, And like I didn't know you could qualify if you're just five, but you can't. Well you can because you can do anything. Well, So people, a lot of people don't know this about like you know, Miss America. It's about other things. It's not a beauty pageant. It's like talent. And I was a singer, and I'm like I had a good talent. You're great, but thanks well in the

pageant world, I was good because everybody's good. You cant you got, but well thank you, so do you? And like that was a lot and then like swimsuit and honest age question and interview and I knew like I could do an interview swimsuit though, I mean you kill Yeah, well I got my dad's body the muscles and such. So if I can get all that fat off of it, then it's I'm going to go. So I was able to do that. Let you decided you're going to do Miss America, then you trade for it, and what happens?

How do you enroll? How do you make it to actually getting to be the representative for your state? Yeah, like it's cool because it's a job. So I loved like speaking in traveling and doing all this cool stuff. And a lot of people don't realize, like the winner, so the Miss Kentucky will work for the Department of Agriculture, And I got to speak to like schools and stuff, and I don't like speaking. What are you talking about?

I mean all kinds of things. When I have like an audience of eight hundred kids and like I'm already like wold and fun, Like a lot of these pageant girls are like no, no, not you. But like I had the best time. I'd be like get out of here, and like it's just fun times to put the crown on the boys and just like we're having the best time. These kids say the funniest things and ask the funniest questions.

And it taught me how to like, you know, respond quickly and like and that helps me like you're in life. But um, but yeah, so it was random. It was one day and my dad was like, I think you should be Miss America. We're like on the way to church. That's how he talks or that's how you know. What I love about your dad is he doesn't just say that. He actually saysn't. It means it. He's like, you can do it. So I was like, okay. So then I was like, okay, I'll try. So I love how you're

just like I do that. I did. Um, so you have to do a local pageant. I want my first local pageant. Then you go to Miss Kentucky. There's thirty two girls that qualified ago and it's first year for some reason, in a black velvet turn like cats suit and um, shoulder padded. Well. I was about to make fun of a SEQ when jacket look at me, Now look at you. Now have friends and shoulder pads in that one though, so I only have one set. I had two sets in that one. We're saying rocky top

at Miss Kentucky for my talent. Clearly there were some things that I had figured out yet. But you know, you're just working out, you're just doing it, you're going all in, diving in. Yes. So I got top ten that that year, Miss Congeniality. I was like, okay, now I gotta come back. I gotta win this thing. Got real serious about it, really like stressed and like what do you think my hairs should be? What color do

you think my dress should be? He you're getting detail? Yeah, And you know how sometimes you think like I want to do this, and then you listen to everybody else, but you're dying self when yourself is who like knows how are you gonna look the best? So I listened to all these people and I thought it was about being perfect and have everything right, and that is the most opposite from me. So that year I didn't win, and I thought that was the year I was gonna win.

I was just gonna go Miss American, move on with my life. And I was fourth runner. And that was the thing in my life that happened. I've lost anything before, okay, and that was the thing that happened. Now I love to lose, tell me, because every time I've lost something in my life, like, not only is it like you come beg you try harder. But every time, like another

door opened for me. Can I like focus on that for a second, because that is the thing in life that is very hard to learn in the beginning, like those first few times that you're learning that, like, and we talk about this, you do not have face planning hard and stuff like we've given in our all and it just like didn't well face plan for for us.

It's all relative. But once you face plant and you realize that, okay, well shoot, that sucked, and this really is painful experience and I don't like the man in feeling, But once you survive it, it's like a whole new worlds the best, Like, thank God I lost, Like I'm so glad. Okay, so tell you why I thank God? What did that lead to? I mean, so like obviously then it led me to the next year where I like let go of a lot of things. It was my last you to compte for Miss Kentucky. This is

the last chance I wanted to be Miss Kentucky. I wanted to be Miss America, Like I wanted to do all this stuff, and you know, I just kind of like let go of things. You like a song I wanted to sing everybody's like, you'll never win with that song. So you you decided to do you? I decided to just do it myself. All these people that were telling me how to do it had never want a pageant. They weren't Miss America, right, So I was like, why am I listening to them? And for myself, I feel

like so many people do that in careers. They like people tell them what to do or you shouldn't do that. You should look at and be like, did you did you do? When have you done? You do that? So like listen so true, so ill let it go and like, my it's so funny. This is a funny story. So like I kind of lost my mind there at the end before I decided to let it all go because I was so stressed and you're trying to keep it all so tight and right. And so I called my mom.

And my mom was on our four siblings, My youngest brother was in the eighth grade and they go on the floor. There's five three. So I'm so they were on this trip this Washington, d C. He went to Catholic school. They were like visiting all these places and they were visiting a cathedral. And I called my mom, and I like had lost my mind. I was like, Mom, I can't. I don't know, I can't. I can't do anymore to stressful. I feel like it's just not my time.

Look and like I just totally lost it. And usually my mom's like, you're gonna think right, And at that point in time, she'd heard it so many times and she was like, I don't know what to tell you. I gotta ask the Lord of something. So she walks in and they were going into cathedral. It's so funny. So the kids had already gone in. There are a

big Catholic family. Yeah, so and like we're like, you got sometimes you've got to be like Jesus, God, whoever you're talking to, you gotta send me something right now. I'm gonna send me a sign. So my mom was like, I don't know what to do, this crazy child of mine,

and she's like, send me a sign. She like knelt down that church and said that prayer, and she looked up and the mosaic behind the whole altar was a huge It was a picture of Jesus putting a crown on Mary's head and said on her head will be placed a crown of twelve stars, and my I was like, all right, oh my god. I mean that's how he and I mean I mean whether your religious person or not. Like I feel like sometimes the universe they sent you those signs. I totally agree if you're willing to look

for them. And the funny thing is my mom could have been like walk out of that church and been like, I saw this thing and you're gonna win. But she didn't. She didn't even tell me she saw that. She knew in her heart I gotta keep supporting her, and it has that assigned for her. So then she just gave you confidence to carry on, like you're gonna be fine. So I did it already knew you were gonna win. She knew yeah, and she like knew it in her core. Jesus told her so, and Jess, oh, oh, it's funny.

So then I went to Miss America and um, the year of Miss Kentucky was just a joy. I feel like I was built for something like that. I was on my hands knees, like at the County Fair doing these watermelonting contests and stuff like, because it's a cool role.

You know, a lot of pageants sometimes are played out there's so much more to it than that, and it put me in such a cool place where like what I was before, in the person that I was, it was extra bird and you want to help people and you want to talk to people and to inspire people. It was just it was the best time. It's the beauty, it's performance, it's everything. It was everything I like to do. So that's Miss America. And I was runner up, like almost one what I didn't want to win at the end,

I don't think why. I don't know. I just decided. I was like, you know what, I've han't such a great time being Miss Kentucky. And in the back of my mind maybe I felt like I was supposed to do something else, something more, and by god, if I didn't lose that pageant. I got a call the next week, like, you want to do amazing, right, So that's what you got two amazing right. So if you would have actually won Miss America, done it, you could have done you

could have done Amazing Race. Yeah. And then if I hadn't won the first season Amazing Race, I couldn't have done a second. And if I hadn't won the second season Amazing rist I couldn't done the third right. If you would have won the first time you didn amazing race, you'd have never been invited back. Losing is the best. Losing is the best. It's that interesting, I swear to you. Okay, So now you're a YouTube star? Oh no, you are? You?

Are you? Okay? I just have to I don't even know how to start this because you have so much stuff, content, things, talent to offer the world. And I am just not learning about YouTube because I haven't figured it out. But I went to your channel recently and I've been watching it every day. How do you do all this? Explain to me what it is because it's amazing. I mean, you would crush it on YouTube, but I don't have the stamina and the energy like you need to do this.

It's like running an operation all the time. I think for YouTube, there are a lot of different people on YouTube, but from me, it was perfect. One thing before you started, though, you told me before you started your YouTube thing, you go, I want to become a YouTube like person, influencer, whatever you call this, and then you just did it. You did it wasn't like a year. Well, just like all the things you've done in your life started. You envision

it and like you just can do it. But you just did it with the weird you have like fifty thousand subscribers already. I know you feel like it's never enough. You have to celebrate your successes. That's something that you have to learn in this world and in this influencer business and YouTube in general, Like you have to celebrate your successes. I mean, it's awesome that I can do all these random things I've done in my life, I can put all those together and I can literally like

do whatever I want to do. But there's a home from all. Yes, there's a home from all on that and that's what's awesome. Like two years ago after doing Miss American, an amazing race, and then I filmed travel shows and stuff, pilots and all these like you've been in the TV world forever and where are the pilots? Where did the shows go? Like you give your whole heart and soul, it's like where is it? And they

say it's for sure going to get picked up. Oh god, if I haven't heard that once, I've heard it a million time. Never gets picked up and something as you let yourself believe that it will, and then it doesn't. But once again, you love to lose said thank you for letting me against So I feel like, you know, two years ago, I was like, how am I gonna bring all this random crap together? And how am I gonna make it into a job. How am I gonna make it into a job and a career in a

long time career. Everybody's doing these blogs blogs, So I was like, what should I do? A blog? So I started a blog. Three weeks later, I started YouTube channel, signed with management, almost immediately started pulling the brand deals. I did the Chevrolet, the c Mayfest and stuff like that, like right off out of the gate. And I feel like it was meant to be for me, and so tell me why it's meant to be for you. I just feel like for me, I can't get pigeonholding to

doing one thing. And I think that's why I like, I never much to do. I couldn't settle in a music career. Yes, like singing was my talent and everything, but I want to do so many different things. And I knew if I signed a record dealer, if I you know, if I had the opportunity to do something like that, that's when that was gonna be what I was gonna be doing. That's it. One thing. Maybe you could do like something else later, yeah, but you can't do I love to have like a portfolio life where

I'm doing like all these different things. And luckily that's why I never signed with management, because they were like, so what do you want us to represent you for? What do you want to what do you do? And I'm like I knew this and this and this and this, and I'm like, yeah, so yeah, YouTube is awesome for me because I can do everything and then you just start growing right away. For you, it did, but I

wish that it would grow quicker. And I think that's where like, that's where a lot of people, I think, like move on from this because this influence or world because you can look at numbers and stuff where you can look at engagement. And my followers are followers, they are fans, and they are regardless of I have ninety thousand followers on Instagram. I'm getting the same kind of

engagement that people with a million followers get. And I have to every day be like thank you for for this, thank you for YouTube, thank you for every single person watches like I feel like it's engaging. Not every single but you know, that's something to be thankful for. And I hope to grow organically and then turn into some sort of blend of like an Oprah and a Martha Stewart and a DJ called and another I don't know,

I pick all the different ones. I'd like to have a little bit of Martha Stewart, a little bit of Oprah, a little bit of DJ Collet, and a little bit of Mother Teresa. Because he's so positive. Okay, you know he's the one that's like another one I don't know that is. He's like he's like, produces rap videos so old. I've got to get with it, you know. It's not I don't even know him that well. He's just like

all so positive. I love I think positivity and you know, optimism and happiness and like energy, it just like feeds in multiplies. It definitely you get back. Yeah, And so I just you know, and like you said before, all these other pilots that you're shooting, it's like you shoot these pilots, where do they go? So now you're shooting this stuff and you're like, it's not to be wasted. It's there. Even if a thousand people watch it, Like a thousand people saw where all those pilots go. The

we saw how many people saw the same. Yeah. The one person was like, yeah, yeah, it's so great. Like being able to sit in my living room and be able to listen to somebody say I'm getting ready to get married. I can't afford to How are somebody do my hair and makeup and be able to create a bridle makeup tutorial. Or somebody's saying I can't lose weight. I'm like, my lord, I'm weight loss video. Who knows I couldn't lose weight for twenty five years and I

know a lot about that. I watched it, You're like, oh, this is so easy. But then I was talking to a sister about it because I was like, Okay, I watched my lot of Urban's weight last thing, and I was like, she does the treadmill and fifteen incline for fifty minutes and does always outcrunches this kind. It's like, that is so hard to watch. Not for you, because you're an energizer, bunny, and when you find you say this, you know I want to find the quickest, fastest route

to get what I want. It's always in my life, but you don't. You're not scared of hard work though. That's the key ingredient that you write. You will work your ass off, but you want to be quick and fast. Yeah, and I don't like I think a lot of people feel like they have to master something before they jump head first into it. I've never wanted to make I didn't even watch YouTube before I became a YouTuber. I don't know anything about YouTube. I called it the YouTube.

So like here I am two years later, like the YouTube is my job, and like I don't know anything about YouTube. And you don't have to master things, you just have to figure out. I figured out what works for me, So what works for you. I think I've always loved human beings. I love connecting to people just like you. And I think YouTube people are They're sitting

in their living room with their laptop open. They're hungry for something, they're looking for something they don't have in their own life, or they can't figure out they need help or help or God something, or like somebody saying it wasn't always easy. Like they see you here in a sparkly jacket and like being like, oh, this stuff is awesome, and they send me packages and stuff, but it's not always easy. They need somebody that can, like

you know, inspire them to live their best life. Do you share truth like the do you share the painful moments too? You have to so tell me some of the painful moments you've shared. I mean, like always when you grow up the oldest of all those kids, and like you're the perfect child, and you do all these things right. Whenever you start like losing, and whenever you start like having tough times, you're confused by that because like what it's not supposed to go like I'm supposed

to like and that's not your image. It's not my image. Wasn't my image. But then, like you know, you have to embrace those things that teach you things. Also, I think too, like you can't be afraid to reinvent yourself, like when you fail at something, or like when something's just like not taking fire, when you feel right and something,

you can't be afraid to reinvent yourself. I was started thinking like all these people might judge you or think failed, or like I was always saying, like I wanted to sing country music. I totally reinvented myself. And then after miss America. Totally reinvented myself doing travel stuff, totally reinvented myself. And just like you, you know, you can't be afraid to reinvent yourself completely. Do you feel like it gets

easier once you start reinventing yourself? Like, do you think it gets easier to do it when you realize that really the failure is not what you thought of totally? How you say I love to lose. Yeah, yeah, I love to lose. No one's new door. It does all new opportunities. And you know, I went through a really tough time in my life, like three and a half years ago, and I just was I thought I had

so many expectations. I thought everybody expected me to do all these things that like I wasn't doing and all this old stuff. I was drinking too much, I was hooked on sleeping pills. I just you know, it was a tough, tough time. And you know, I was looking to like numb everything, all those tough things, and I stopped everything three and a half years ago. I have nothing. I'm like raw in the world. When something bad happens to me, I can't drink a glass of wine. Like

you just feel it. You're just like all energy all the time. It was the best thing because I think when you have to go inside and be like, yo, what's wrong with me? Why am I feeling? Was that hard to give everything? Oh? Yes, it was hard, the hordest thing ever. But it's the best thing ever. Does it getting easier? Absolutely? Like now I don't even think about it, And I'm really grateful that, Like I got a deep dive every time something goes wrong, like I

can't numb it out. I don't have the things that I used to to numb it out, so I have to got a deep dive. Like that's the tweet of the man. But like, thank goodness. So you just deal with your ship, Yeah, I got to. When you have something to come up, you have to like look at it in eyeballs and just like figure out how to move on. How great though, in the long run, it's so much better to deal with it up front than just let it snowbill and then all of a sudden

you get like overwhelmed by your snowball. Yeah, And like in this world that we live in, like there it's like a grocery store of things that you can like numb yourself with anything, and not to say I still don't know. I mean I over shop a little bit over what's your job? So it's okay, So but I mean, you know, I just I don't hope for everyone to like go through something like I went through. But you hope that people learn a different way to do their lives.

They learn to do that deep dab, they learned to you know, because when you brush and brush and brush stuff under a rug for so long, like then you gotta big a mountain in your living room. Yeah, and like what are you gonna do with that if you don't have the tools I had to learn. I don't now, not to say I don't. I have got some great therapists. I love therapy. I love it. I don't know why everyone thinks like therapy is bad things? Why would you

not invest in yourself? To me, exactly, I'm living with this brain and this life. Why would I not invest in myself? Like, you want to live your best life, and you need help to live your best life. You need guidance. Sometimes you don't know the tools. I'm not

a professional at certain things. Yeah, and like it's just you know, that's what I hope to be for people to you know, yes, I'm doing makeup and I'm talking about fashion and cooking videos, but there's something else I think that comes through, and that it's like, you know, I can teach people. I can, I can I can show people, you know, how I got to the point that I'm at now, Like how I've gone through tough things, how like losing and help me win and how you know, positivity,

enjoy and in ostivity is a key ingredient. I think. I think positivity and joy. I always say joy. I think that joy can change your life. And people always like, yeah, but you always been like that. Shoot, I was like laying on my floorballing crime for like a whole year. I was not always like that ball and Crown in the grocery storeball and Crown like in the line of the bands, trying to figure it out. And so like

you can pull yourself up. You have to make the choice to do that to find joy every day, and like, look at life is totally like it's so cliche, but look at it, it's half full because every bad thing, like you can lead to something really good. And I just I always hope for people to find that in their lives and I was like, my god, I'm gonna start a YouTube channel and I'm gonna cook a video on shown how to do makeup, and somehow that's going to come through and maybe I can help, you know,

somebody with something like that. It's amazing. What you have done is amazing. You're gonna wrap up par a little bit, But tell me, because I think you're such an inspiring person and you've gone through so much, You've experienced so much. What do you think the point of life is? Oh? Man, you know, it's really it's a funny thing because everybody says it, and it's like, why does everybody not get it? I do think that the point of life is to

bring joy to other people. Though I think the point of life I think birth you have to find it in yourself because you certainly can't bring it to other people. But I totally think like it's about figuring out how to be joyful and happy and live your life right. But it's more so about like how do you bring it to other people? I think you're totally bringing it

to other people through podcasts. I think I'm totally you think you have to find what you love to do, though, like finding what the loving what you do is important. It is, yeah, but I've loved to do so many different things and I couldn't get caught up on like is this the thing? Yeah? I rode the waves like when they came along and like and they were the most random ways, but you were loving the ways. I

loved it. I had the greatest time. But I think it's too because I've found joy and in a lot of different things, and I can always find it even in like the toughest times in my life, like I could, I could find how do you find keep it? Where do you go to to find enjoy in yourself? All different places? I can't go to that. I can't go to battle line anymore? Now, deep do you go to your faith? Or how do you my faith? A lot? I go to what I do a lot. I used to go to what I do like and that was

like all but like you can't. Also, something else I learned in my life is like what you do doesn't define you. Amen to that and like people ask who are you? And I used to be like, oh this is and I did an amazing race and I did and I realized like once and I'm like, that's not who I am that's what you did. I'm like this human being. I like this, and I like that, and now I'm doing this and you know who you are is not like what you did. So I try to

find a balance to find enjoying my work. It's hard to get off social media when everybody's being all positive and you're able to put positivity out there and do cool things, because I think you have to find a balance in your real life too, because I find joying cooking dinner for my brand new has adorable dude. And I find joy and I mean a lot of different things. I find joy in, like helping other people that are going through struggles because I've gone through struggles, and you know,

I find joying a lot of different things. But I also find joy in trying to be satisfied with where I'm at because it's tough when the sky's limit it's a wild, wild west, like it is with influencers and

doing what we do right now. You can do so many different things right now, But like, I have to celebrate where I am because you have come in a while, what you have accomplished when just a short time when the YouTube world is crazy, it's nice, but you just want more, I know, because once you reach one goal, then all of a sudden the world opens and there's a whole new set of opportunities and goals. But you know, what else would you do in this life if you

don't have someone to keep striving exactly, you know. So I think that's good. Every new layer, you get a new set of opportunities, and anyone can achieve these things, anyone. I always say that there's room for everyone. I think when you find people in any industry that are strong arm and people that are trying to come in that won't give advice that won't help other people, those people, you know there's something within them that they're afraid they're

not going to succeed or something. Because with me, I want to if someone's like, how do I do this? Because I want you to have as many as much as like hav how to do filters and editing and all this stuff they look and like because other people help me with that. And I've never understood why people don't help other people do the same things, because there

is room for everyone. It's not all a competition, which is funny because I'm a really competitive person, I think, but like I'm competitive in competitions, but like I know when something's not a competition to right, like, because sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's just like you are meant to be the person that comes out to the top. You're meant to be. But if you're not, yeah, you get there and it shows you all these other opportunities. So um, yeah,

I'm all about like helping other people. And you know, it sounds so cliche, but it's like I want to help people and I'm like, but are you do you? Because like you have, you have to find your outlet to like to do that, to spread what it is that you want to spread, to spread that message or that joy or that lipstick which brings people too. Yeah, it does, it does. Lips brings people joy. I love it. Okay, So the last question, I'm sure time you just had

this beautiful hair. It just it looks so good. But I like to wrap up my interviews with leave your light. So this whole thing has been inspiring obviously, but leave some inspiration of how you have been inspired or how you would like to inspire people. How I have been inspired, Lord have mercy. You know, I've been really lucky. Caroline in my life. I think to have so many inspirational people, Like anytime I needed to be inspired, all those people

were readily available. I think you have to look to other people for inspiration, to other things for inspiration a lot of times. Um so gosh, so many people have inspired me. My dad inspires me all the time because my dad is all that living life to the fullest a hundred and fifty thou percent. He never and he never lacks. Yeah, so that's inspiring to me because my

dad has built incredible multimillion dollar companies. Incredible, but it's zero percent is about like that kind of monetary success or like being acknowledged by as peers for doing certain things and being a pioneer in in an industry. Like he finds success in his own happiness. And that inspires me because yes, like what if I get ten million

you YouTube subscribers, Like that's gonna be so awesome. But like if I look at all the people that have had major success like that, they always come back down and like come back and they're like I found it within myself and like that's not what made me happy.

That's aspiring to me. Yeah, And I think to inspire the people you know like I say, like I've said through this whole interview, like when you don't make it to the top, like whatever you thought it was that you were supposed to win and achieve, like just no, look at my life and look at your life, and so many opportunities that are even better than what you thought was. The top can come out of like losing something or failing at something, and the open be open.

And then like finally like just be have joy, have joy, strive for joy and energy and positivity. And even when you follow in your face and it's the worse in your life and you don't want to live another day, like know that you can literally, if you make it through that, be the most joyful person on the face of the earth. Like it's all in your hands. I think that's probably it dropped the Mike Mallory telling you. I am telling you you are going to be your own.

You are going to be your own Martha Stewart, Oprah, the whole brand. Thank you. I'm so happy to know you. I'm happy to know you. Thank you for having me. And you're gonna sing apella song well shall well, yeah, we have a stage We're gonna do or should we just do it right here. Since we're sitting down, you gonna stand up on the stage. No, not stand let's up on the stage. We're gonna we're you know what, We're gonna take Mollar to the stage and she's gonna

just one acaphola song. Okay, Like, what's should I say? Teal Audio's newest speaker line, The Aurora Life Stream speakers are designed to fit seamlessly into your home with its wide range of connectivity. To check out the latest speaker line, go to teal audio dot com. Okay, are you singing this song? Well? I didn't not singing the song until just now, so I hope it's gonna be Okay, it's gonna be great. So what are you gonna say this? So, since we talked about Miss America, should have do Miss

America's song my own pageant rendition? What's goes? We're so long since I sang a song? But I'm missing in songs? Okay, take it away? Okay, so this is on my own from l miss but my Miss America version of it? Okay, on my own. Pretending he's beside me, hold on, I walk with him till morning. Without him, I feel his arms around me. Then when I lose my way, close my eyes and here has fine me. And I know it's only in my mind that I'm I'm talking to myself.

I can't remember the key character. The thing I love about you is like you're like, yeah, I freaking love it. Oh you're the best. Thank you for having me. This was the motion's for joining me on my podcast. I know that you loved hearing from now Irvin. She's absolutely amazing, so full of light and energy and positivity. Oh I love her. So next week, I have Chuck Wicks in the house. What what? He came on hot to the country music scene with stealing Cinderella. That was my favorite song.

He then went on to do Dancing with the Stars. He is an incredible singer, songwriter, musician, and now he's the host of America's morning show. So he is killing it. He has so many talents and he'll be joining us next week. So y'all get excited for Chuck Wicks.