Lou Taylor

could be adult content. I am so excited about this episode. I have Lou Taylor joining me and she is such a bad us. She is a business manager. She's a CEO and the founder of TriStar Sports Entertainment Group. She business manages all of the best acts from Florida, Georgia, Line, Britney Spears, Gwen Stefani, Megan Trainer, a thousand horses, my hobby. What what she does? Everyone? And she is so incredible. She has it with style, she does it with a

huge faith, and she takes no nonsense from anyone. This is a woman who gets it done. She inspires me beyond no end and she looks fabulous doing it, So you guys, please welcome Lou Taylor. And also, if you want to watch this podcast, go to my website Caroline Hobby dot com and click on watch and I'll take you to my YouTube page where you can see the whole podcast on video. So here is Lou Taylor. You just flew in from New York last night. Planes, trains

and automobiles, you know how it goes. What were you doing New York? Um Clive Davis was releasing his film The Soundtrack of My Wife at the Tribeca Film Festival, so he kicked off try Back. It was amazing, Oh my gosh, star studded, I'm sure. Yeah. And after the film they had live performances by Barry Manilow a Wretha Franklin, which was just insane to look at her at where she's at, at her age and still open her mouth and put you to the floor. Like good music always wins,

That's what I say, always wins. Yeah. Okay, So I wanna ask you a few little racket fire questions. Okay, go for it. This one's gonna be hard because you've accomplished and done so much, But what's left on the bucket list? What's left on the bucket list? Well, I don't know that. I think when you are a driving CEO, the bucket list doesn't have a bottom because new talents always coming up, new things are always happening, and every time that does, you know, as a CFO, we're looking

at how we're going to participate in it. So I think personal bucket list things like I would like to have two weeks solid off for me to go skiing and not be interrupted snow skiing. Totally grew up skiing. I love snow skiing is dangerous, no fabulous. I've been skiing since I was a little tyke. So two weeks on this lay and I'm gangster skier. So that's like first chair up in the morning, you race to get down, like at three thirty because the chairs usually stopped running

around four o'clock. So you race to get down on the slope so you can get all the way up the mountain and take your time to come down. Do you go super fast and do the moguls and on the double? Um, well, at fifty one, I don't really do that anymore. Um My husband says that I'm steady and pretty, so that's steady. Pretty form. Just stay you know, it's my life. Stay the course. Sometimes it's ugly, like when you hit the moguls, but stay pretty, stay the course.

It's kind of a metaphor for your career totally. We talked about too earlier. Can because you walked in looking like a dream with your spike, say Lubaton you have. You are one of those women that I feel like you dress the part, like you are the part, and you dress the part. How important is putting out there the full image all the time for you? Well? You know, I think what happens sometimes when you're involved in the

entertainment business. There's this misconception that hip sometimes is sloppy, and I just want people to be professional. It's the same in my office, and it says right in our dress code, don't come to work looking like you're going grocery shopping on a Saturday with nine kids. Like that's that's the bottom line. I want you dressed for success.

Are weird extension of clients? So you're a client. If you and Michael walk in and you want to have a meeting, I think even though you say, oh, you've got great technical competencies, and you come in and everybody looks like a hot mess or a slab. It's like, I just don't think it represents well. Listen, our technical expertise has to back up the appearance, but both have to exist. I love that. Yeah, I think that P

did always is that too dressed apart? Like you have to totally have to one of the girls who works for me yesterday, so you know, I just did a twenty four hour turnaround. They did Nashville, Vegas for a meeting, did the meeting, got on a flight, flew to New York, got up the next morning, had at nine o'clock meeting. And so when I landed in Nashville yesterday, I had a meeting with Miss Reeva. As soon as I walked in the door. How do you have all this energy?

I don't know, it's insanity, um, but I was walking into a meeting. So I got dressed before I left New York because I knew there was no downtime in between. And so one of the girls who works for me, she goes, I can't believe you just got off a plane that you're so put together. Every time I'm on a plane, I'm a mess. And I can't remember who told me this. But when I was a young lady, somebody once said to me, never get on a plane looking a wreck, because you never know who you're going

to be sitting next to that. And I've never, never, ever forgotten that. And I'm like, Actually, one of my partners that I was traveling with yesterday, she goes, I'm wearing my hot pink Nike's and my sweats, and I'm like, it's just not who I am. I love that about you. So what is your biggest pet? Peeve? People who just want a job. Oh so, people who just want a job. For me. I mean, we're in the sports and entertainment business,

but we're in a very definitive role. We're accountants, finance people, accountants, UM service people, so we know what our role is. But if you don't love the business and understand the bigger picture in serving people, you're going to hate it. Because as a technician, you're doing the financials, corporations, building businesses. All of that's exciting, but then there's still the element of um doing all of the personal work. Because we do the personal bills, we take care of domestic staff.

So honestly, that's why I feel like women sometimes make better business as managers because we're natural born nurturers. So it doesn't bother us to exel as a badass technician and still be in a in a place where we reason things out of compassion and nurturing. Does that make strum? Like the manager is not going to call you and go, Caroline, what do we need to do about your puppies while you and Michael are on the road, But we do touch that, like that's part of our responsibility. And you

have such a personal relationship with all your clients. That's something I've noticed being with you guys for I guess it's been about two years now, maybe yeah, a little bit longer probably, You like know everyone's birthday, you know everything going on in people's life. Like I feel like you you really do nurture these clients like your family. Yeah. I think it's important that if you're going whatever you're going to do, you're going to do it beyond well.

And you know, my my husband has singing about me and and don't misunderstand his heart in this, because he doesn't mean I'm not satisfied with him because I but he's like, Babe, you're never satisfied. And I think that. I think that's a very true statement. It's an element of constantly scaling and flexing. And it's like, if you pay me, I should know your birthday because to me, that's excellence. I'm celebrating you. I'm celebrating the fact that

you trust me to handle your personal finances. I mean, really, other than a doctor, we're so intimate. It is an intimate relationship. And you know, my staff will probably tell you the same thing. It's that balance of I want to inspire them, but I'm not ever content with where we are. If we can do things differently than we're going to do it, and I want to be able to scale. And that's why it's in our mission statement. Well, we have several. The mission statement is simple, to be

the world's best businessman, and you are changing that. It's never changed. And just a little moment, Billboard has like given you accolades at the top twenty five business managers or a hundred best Women in the entertainment industry as well as like all of these huge publications have honored you as one of the best business managers. So you're doing your business, your your statement. Yeah, and you know

what's interesting about that statement. And this gets hard. And I'm not just saying it because it seems like the politically correct thing to do. But I tell my staff all the time it might be my face, but it's their work and so collectively, let me let me tell you what's not my pet peeve, but what floats my boat. Hiring technical geniuses that are drivers that they see an issue or they just see a process improvement and they

drive to do it. There is nothing that gets me off more for one of my staff to write me and go, this is how this is happening, A B and C. This is how I think we should fix it, A B and C. Do I have your approval? Go for it? Like there's nothing more exciting to me than having staff that as that. See that shows confidence in you too, because I feel like some people who run big companies want to be the end all, be all, top dog and they have a hard time with other

people having power and excelling. Do you ever see that? But to me, like you, you want people to succeed and crush it? Yeah, it for me. The hard thing is when you're in a corporation and you're sitting in a queue. There are so many levels of reporting, and you're not exposed because by the time something gets to the CEO, let's say at h c A, it's probably gone through and touched ten fifteen different people. So there's a lot of autonomy in the work process, but there's

also a lot of shelter. In business management, there is no shelter because it's the client, the accounting manager, the business manager, and me. So you're fully exposed all the time. If something doesn't go right and it impacts a client, there's immediate there's a there's an immediate awareness of that, and and people have a hard time adjusting to that because you know, human nature, self preservation. Nobody wants to be in a position where they're not doing something right.

So I do feel like people struggle sometimes in business management understanding that you're fully exposed and that you're going to have to step out and take chances at times on things that might not might be counterintuitive, you know, so you have to trust your gut, trust your gut, and if there I used to consider it a failure if I had to have turnover and um there there's a great book written by a by a man who did lots of research work called Jim Collins and so

most college students have heard of Good Degreat. It was a business book that broke down analytics of companies that outperformed the SMP five right and so one of it really came down to a list of attributes. It really didn't come down to this is how they build processes, this is how they did their financing. It all came down to the personal attributes to the people performing the job. Well, one of them was, you know, for a CEO, it

was really empowering people to make decisions. That was crucial, crucial. And then the other was get the right people on the bus doing the right jobs, get the wrong ones off, because sometimes you can have the right person but they're doing the wrong job. And that is one thing to try star that we work really hard to do. Like you may come in for a role like touring and

business management's very different. Even though they're peers tourings, day to day, the show's rolling, there's day to day needs issues, every day something's going on, where business management is more planned, pay the bills on the first and fifteen, reconcile your transactions, so it's it's methodical. So this technician who works in touring has to be able to deal with crazy. So

somebody will interview and go, I want crazy, right. They love the wild, they of the wild, but then they think they want it and then they get in and they realize, oh, ship, she wasn't lying. I actually meant wild. And they're like, I want to go to business management. So anyway, totally. And so that's if you're the right person, I will move you. If you're the right person, I don't have a job for you yet, but you're bringing value. Add I'll find one that's awesome. You can spot the

right people. If you're the wrong person, I will get you off. And now I'm at the place where I don't make apologies for turnover, right or wrong. What what stands out to well, is there retention and things you've been trained on. So you train, you allow them to perform, You allowed them to succeed. So if there's not retention and you're having to constantly go back, then that's an issue because then you're not lifting the load. Somebody else is on the buses caring your load. Um. People who

are negative are cancer in any situation. So if you are a complaining, nagging, negative, gossiping, indecisive, person, I will just walk you out and I don't even make an excuse for it. Now now I just don't put up with it. It's like a disease. We're not in the r trauma room. We're in the entertainment business. You get to come to a cool place to work. You get to serve people who are impacting the community. We're not saving lives here. Be positive. If you see something that's

not right, fix it. You're not a victim. But if you're gonna bitch and complain and you can go, and I don't care. I love it. And honestly, you've created such an environment and a culture in your office and and try star in general, because you walk in those doors. It's bright, it's white. It feels amazing like you have all you have, like coffee, candy, everyone's happy. It's make I never want to leave my business manager's office, which is crazy because most of the people don't want to

come in. They're afraid. It's usually scary. It's like going to the dinist most of the time. But with you guys, it's like heaven and you thing well, it's of empowerment all over the walls. It literally is the most uplifting place and you hire a lot of women. Yeah, that goes back to my you know, my thing that I think women make better business manager. I kind of do too.

They're so detail oriented and the nurturing aspect totally. Most of the men who work for me love the entertainment business and then um, their contribution winds up being in a in a siloed position of excellence. You know, my royalties director is amazing Brett who services you guys. He's amazing because he loves the business and he eats, breathes and sleeps how to constantly be a better you know technician.

I have a Frenchman who you know, wants to build a soccer practice or football as he tells me, that's the proper way, you know. I have another one who would like me to try to build a golfing practice because he loves golf. And so when I have people who are excellent at their job and they want to help or they want me to help them build a discipline within the practice, I love that. It's like they're they're young men who are going to support their families

and they love the business. And I will I will say this if you don't love the business. You won't get it. It's like the Clive Davis thing. I didn't care that the movie was three hours because as a young lady when I first started in business management, I didn't even know what business management was. And I went and I picked up Clive's book. I wish I had brought it, but experience to be because you know him

and you'll like it's crazy. So talk about Brett, right, I'm like his age as a young lady first starting and then full circler representing Mary J. Blige, and then you're all of a sudden representing her twenty five years later. But but Clive's whole thing is when you look at the history of his life, it was three hours of stories and success. And one of the things Clive said, and they had footage of it, he said, three day

or let I take this back. Every point in his life when the charts dropped, he would take the top twenty records and he would put him in his satchel because he was taking physical record records. This young generation doesn't know what that is. Like when you look music up and it says, you know it started with record, cassette tape, you know whatever, and even going back to

eight tractates. But he took the top twenty records that were on the chart and he would listen to them over and over again to see what the changes were. What we're studied, and had footage of him with the satchel. It looked like years old and what was happening? Yeah, and it's the same. I want people who have that same passion as a technician and a developer of business. I want them to study it or eat, breathe and sleep it. I gotta tell you this funny story. I'm

gonna digress for a second. So my one of my controllers came in and said to my director of business me management, we made a big mistake this year. Words. Yeah. I was like, oh shoot, and he goes, we made a horrible mistake basically, and she's like, what, he goes, We forgot to issue at ten so one of our female clients, right, And she's like, how did we miss that?

And he goes, I don't know, he goes, but so and so paid eighties six thousand dollars to this guy, Christian Lobo and Lobo Lobo and we didn't issue him at ten ninety nine and literally my director of businessman. If she had had depends, I think she had just taken the freedom to peer pants right there. She was losing her lid, and she's of course the guy came in and said that, and I was like, God, bless your wife, right, and she's like, I'm telling you, you you

couldn't have scripted it. Just at that point, one of the girls in the office went walking by and she had on a pair of Christian Lubetan boots and literally Peggy called her and she goes, I'd like you to introduce Brian to Christian lu Baton. I thought that was the greatest story ever. But anyway, it's it goes back to loving the business, loving the creativity of it, loving the fun of it. And as a technician, if you don't love the business and you don't enjoy it, you're

going to hate it. Because we have a tough job. A debt's a debit, a credits a credit period. We have clients with short term accumulation phases. Not everybody is a Mary j or a Steven or a Carlos Santana, whatever flord of Georgia line. You have a period of time where you get to experience unusual wealth is the fruit of your craft. And if we don't love what we're doing, it's it's going to show in our performance and how we serve, how we think. Are we creative?

Are we thinking about the next move for them? Are we thinking about ancillary revenue streams? And it's like I took away from Clive's movie. It didn't even seem like three hours to me. That what you saw as a man who was a lawyer, who he literally would eat, breathe and sleep, has craft and I do the same thing. That's why the best and that's why you're the best. Well, I don't know if I have some formidable peers, but you know, it might just be gumballs to somebody else,

but those gunballs mean a lot to me. I love that. I love that. And also you are killing it as a woman in a very male dominated industry too. What is it like being in the boys club? Oh my gosh, I can tell you honestly, I don't really think about it that way. I feel like if I give any intention to anything other than what I'm doing, than I would I would be compromising my success. You just have blinders on, blinders not looking right, not looking left. I

don't care what anybody else does. I don't care how they do it, And you don't care if people get mad at you either, if you're doing the right thing. It's so weird to me. Somebody just said to me, um crap, they sent me an out. And somebody said, I asked around town, meaning here, not Los Angeles, you know where our other offices, they said. I asked around town and consistently people said you were a disruptor. And I was like, well, what does that mean? What am

I accounting to counting? Like? What am I disrupting? And so is it that I don't settle? Do I expect a lot? You can ask that little girl over there what I expect. I expect a lot, but I expect and I know people say this all the time. I expect nothing less anybody else than what I give at all. Yeah, I don't know what that means. Well, And also though, I think, why do women get this reputation if you're a badass at what you do? Why do women get this reputation where a man can be a total asshole

but people don't care because you know, I haven't. I haven't. I haven't figured out that part you know, I wish I could say to somebody I figured it out and this is what it's like, But I really haven't figured you know, it's the old manage. Why is a woman a bitch and a man good at his job? Like, um, I'm not bitching. Yeah, that's the way it is period. You know, I don't know. I wish I could tell you I don't have it figured out. Well, okay, so also,

you have your faith is very strong. Tell me how your faith plays into all of this and how did you get into business management? So let's see, that's an interesting question. I happened into business management randomly, had no idea what it was actually in Florida, of all places. But at the time I went into business management, Florida

was a music mecca. You know. You had the Miami Sound Machine, you had Expose, which was a hugely popular pop group, and literally I was one of the only people who knew how to use computers and a in a firm that represented Andre Herrell. Uptown Records also had a sports practice. So that's kind of how try Star wound up being multiple, multiple discipline firm. Because I didn't know anything different, I just recreated what I experienced, so I was one of the only folks that knew how

to use a computer. And I got hired, and all of a sudden I was exposed to this world of pop culture. As I said, Mary J. Blige was in the studio doing um what's the four one one? At the time, she had been signed by Andre Herrell at Uptown Records, UM Heavy D and the Boys Joe to see all of these incredible groups. It was an ASA base who was not on Uptown Records, but another client which was like really one of the first rap groups ever, you know, um mc search and Pete Nice and you.

I just loved it. I mean it's like you go from the staleness of accounting to doing financial statements. And I did the tour accounting and I did that stuff by hand, so like today when will complain about workload and like, try doing that by hand and complain to me um And I just loved it and and actually tying that into faith. I I worked for some folks that I didn't really love, you know, just really what I felt weren't Some of them were not honest, and it just was not going to be a place where

I could stay. But I knew nothing, knew nobody, you know, as a young lady. And it's like, how do you leave there and go, hey, I'm just going to start my business And you talked about instant. Well, I went home and I told my husband, I'm like, babe, I can do anything for I've said three years because I needed to learn the players and I didn't have enough. I knew how to do accounting, and I just learned tour and no tax experience, and I didn't know anything.

I didn't know the difference between a you know, performance royalty and a mechanical royalty. So anyway, going back to that, I stayed for about two and a half years to learn everything and then finally out to the place where I would leave. And then you said in your twenties, you said I'm going to go start my own and you did it. Holy caw. You like, are so fearless, and but you don't you're not scared. Well, you don't feel fearless at the time. You it's you don't know.

I didn't know any better. It's just like this is I you. Every entrepreneurial CEO has an element of crazy, and I definitely have that. And and I walked out so going back to faith, I feel like at very pivotal times in my career, God's given me something that's like knowledge that I was able to build it. He actually gives you just give signs. Is sometimes it's both, but it's a thought process of when I left, I needed to be able to pay my bills right, because

you know, you're poor. At that time, I think it was making like seventeen thousand dollars a year, and so I figured out very quickly when I was making my move that if I went out and signed small core sporate businesses right because it's steady business, going back to the planned business, I could pay my bills and then I would build. I would go out and sell during

the day. I'd do the work at night until I had enough cash resources to hire who was my partner in South Worida at the time, who had come out of Jack Nicholas and UM should serve Jack Nicholas and Golden Bear, so she had worldwide tax experience, hire her out, and then as that fed the need for operating capital, I would then work the entertainment relationships. So you know that's Mary Jay's It's twenty five years now, so twenty

two of those on my own. So what happened. The real catalyst for me was that when I left ninety days later, I had enough corporate business to bring out. Yeah, so my partner came out, and at that time when both of us left, one of the brothers, who was such an upstanding man in this firm, said, I will give you a couple of the clients if you continue to UM pay me basically on this book of business.

So there were there were three artists that I'm sorry, two artists and one athlete, and one of those athletes had an enormous contract and that just changed the trajectory of the firm. So literally within a hundred and twenty days, it was myself, my partner, two bookkeepers, and we took down office space and then the rest is history. In

two thousands and just kept growing it. So we moved here in two thousand and two, UM I opened the office in Nashville, and two thousand and three, the summer of two thousand and three, I opened the l A office, and two thousand and eight and now we're eighty staff, two locations and eighty four some around eighty four clients. Tell me some of your awesome clients. Well, I they're all favorites. I love them all. I love the ones that are the babies that are just getting started, that

have immense talent. Okay, so some of the superstars. I have Steven Tyler from Aarrow Smith, which was a huge vanity, amazing man, probably one of the most genuine humans you will ever meet, Mary Jane Blige whom I've mentioned, Britney Spears, Jennifer Lopez, Gwen Stefani, Meghan Trainer, who is I will go out on a limb and say, Megan is probably somebody who has blown me away the most when it comes to music. And I mean that in a three sixty manner. People forget how young she is, but she's

like a savant. She's I mean, Megan really is like a musical genius. Her ability to hear, her ability to write, to play, and Megan's one of those people from the beginning. She will tell you that she was writing songs you for friends in school, that it was just part of who she is and how her dad nurtured that gift in her. And I mean, she's just such a compelling

young lady. Of course, I have Florida Georgia Line and I respect Tyler and Brian so much when you talk about badasses again, people who have come in and done things because not because they were trying to change the system or change change the marketplace, it's they just did them. And I'm always like, respect people who do them. Yes, we're authentic, do you It's like, don't do somebody else. Justin Tranner, who has my I mean, I hate elaborating on any one of them because they're all so amazing

and in a different right. But Justin Tranner, who came out of semi precious weapons and now literally Billboard just named him number eight of top writers in the domestic US. Because you meet Justin, I just want to put on a birthday hat and you know, like a bright pink outfit, which I never wear pink, but I would put it on for him because he's so happy. And it's because he's gone through everything in his career and he respects

the gift. Yes, he does not take it for granted, and he's not totally like he knows what respects the gifts. And then you know we have UM Alison Felix, who's, you know, an incredible UM athlete who again eats, breeze and sleeps her her passion is one of the fastest women you know, arguably in the world. I don't know. I love them all, and I'll tell you this about um, Jennifer Lopez. I have not ever met another woman who grinds and eats, breeze and sleeps her role as a

content creator as she does. She is when I say gangster, she's as gangster as they come. Period. She's gangster. She is the body they call her boss Lady, and she is the boss lady that and she's hot as hell, hot as hell doing it doing it. She does that show out in Vegas because I represent Jennifer for her residency business, because she has a wonderful business manager that

does her her TV and film work. And you watch what she when I tell you, she is getting it every minute her feet are on that stage, and you you look at the work ethic that she puts into her craft, and I get to tell you it's the same thing for Tyler and Brian. You know, I've seen a lot of artists come and go because that's the nature of the business. She have moments and then you don't have them anymore. But Tyler and Brian their gangster

as well. It's like they'll go do a show and they take their writing bus out because they have their publishing company, Tree Vibes Music, they take the bus out, they take writers out. They will get off shower and they're like, let me hear the demos from the writing sessions today, Like this is no. They get that this is they're creating an empire, and so were I work.

I would hope they would say that I worked really hard for them, and my staff works really hard for them because I feel like they deserve that that level of service I love so much. We're gonna wrap up, got a couple more questions, and we're gonna hear some of your favorite songs. Did you always know? When did you know this was your calling? When did you know

you're walking in your calling? Probably the moment I realized that I was going to go out on my own, I'm like, I love this so much and I don't know if anybody this goes back to being crazy? Right who? At that age, I'm like, I don't know if there's anybody else that's ever. It never even entered my mind to go look for another business management firm and go work somewhere you knew you're ready to do it on your own. I wouldn't say I knew I was ready to do on my own. It was never consider duration

to go work for somebody else. And that's why when I'll flip back to my pet peeve, I know what's in my head, or I say to people, I know what's on the canvas, and the canvas is a beautiful painting where not only the people who work for me get to experience the joy of working in their craft and being more than fairly compensated for it. There there, that's what's on my mind. That's what the canvases. And then I say to them, I also know what's not

on the canvas and what's not on the canvas. As a hospital, I don't want to deal with your drama. I don't want to deal with crap. I want you to come in and I want you to contract. Who spends hours painting a canvas and then you let somebody come in and flick paint on it. You don't. I'm like, no, no, I'm not gonna no hospital in it. You're either going to contribute and it be beautiful. Because if you're a head tripper. You need to go someplace else, can't can't

be with me. I love that. That's why you're so effective. I don't know if I'm just the right amount of crazy. It's perfect. Okay, we're gonna wrap up, leave your light, leave some inspiration. How you like to inspire people or how you have been inspired. My inspiration would be fine, do something that's not just a job. Do something that's not just a job, because you know, I think everybody asked themselves this, this silly question at one point in time.

If I won the lottery, would I go to work tomorrow? And I can honestly tell you that if I won the lottery, I'd go to work tomorrow, like and I don't know that. There's a lot of people that would still do that. You love it, you love what And I'm not done. I don't know what done is, but I know I'm not done, if that makes any sense. Loo Gosh, you're like so inspirational. So now we're gonna play music. We're gonna play a couple of songs have

greatly impacted you in your life. That's right, So tell me, okay, tell me what This first one. The first one is dream on is that right? Errol Smith? So Steven Tyler, who I adore as a human dream on to me. I don't think anybody, especially anybody who's my age, but even young people, UM don't know. Dream On. It's like dream on, dream on, dream yourself a dream come true. And I think that's that's just so been part of my life. Dream yourself a dream come true. What does

that mean to you? Well, I think try stars, dream yourself a dream come true. It's like people walk in my office, Oh my gosh, look what you bill. I never even think about it that way. I'm like, just to dream yourself a dream come true. I want to dream myself staff to come true. It's like because when you hire drivers, that's amazing. But anyway, I love this song. I love Stephen. Steven is the sole writer on dream On. I don't know if a lot of people know that.

And he literally wrote the song in twenty minutes. So when Stephen became a client of mine, I don't think there was, you know, any greater joy for me than to sign somebody who had so greatly impacted my life with music. Because I'm a rock girl. I grew up during long lived rock, you know, I love it. Okay, we're gonna hear a little bit. Teal Audio's newest speaker line, the Aurora Livestream speakers, are designed to fit seamlessly into

your home with its wide range of connectivity. To check out the latest speaker line, go to teal audio dot com. I love how his voice can change to a little bit, because like, sometimes that sounds different to me than some of his other recordings, Is it to you? I mean, I just I just love him. He could read the Cereal Box and I'd be down with it. You know, Mike Will made it is a I mean, arguably one of the greatest producers right now of our our day.

And um, he came to the Aerosmith show and we were standing side stage talking and he looked at me and he said, he goes, look at that, you know, because all the way up and he said, I would hope someday, at this point in time, I could still put somebody in a seat all the way up there. He's like, he's amazing, And I think that's the I think that's the beauty of who Stephen Tyler is. Because let me tell you something. You buy a ticket for a show to see steven and you're you're getting every

dollar of it, every dollar of it. You surround yourself with people who give everything of themselves. Yeah, I try to really hard. It probably keeps all the passion up with everything, because if anyone's not passionate, the flame doesn't burn his bright. So everyone in your tribe is on fire. Yeah, and if they're not, then they really have to go. You know. That's hard, and that's the hard thing because turnovers money, you know, time and training is money. Tell

me about this next song. Okay, so the next song is Real Love. So this is full circle for me, Real Love because um, when I first got into business management, as I said earlier, Mary j was in the studio doing What's the four one one? So she was signed in nine nine by Andre Horrell. She was basically doing vocals for him, and then What's the four one one? Came out and Real Love to me, just I remember

hearing Real Love for the first time. It's like I'm searching for a real love, you know, someone to set my heart free. And so being a young girl at that time, you just thought Mary was like when she first came on the scene, there had never really been anybody like Mary who had that edge to her. Do you know what I mean? And I mean like in

a she just owned. If you meet Mary today, just look at the images of her, like she walks in a room and you know that she's a wild Yeah, she's r R and B Royalties just walked in the room.

And so Mary Um is a client of Trystar. And so that's all come full circle for me to have worked on Uptown Records when she was signed, her being in the studio doing What's the four one one at that time, and now here this is going to be the anniversary of What's the four one one this summer, and that she's still a boss, her new records coming out, Strength of a Woman, her new album, and when I tell you, we set Um in Jim Henson's studio, one of his studios over there and listen to the new record,

and she's just boss. Asked Brilliant. I think that needs to be a new hashtag, Yeah, asked Brilliant, Not hashtag girl boss, just girl boss killing. Okay, here we go, Lou, what an inspired life you live. Seriously, you're changing You're changing the world for all of these superstars, for all these people, for your staff, that you work with like the president that you said is just excellence, and you're

so inspired and so passionate. It's an honor to work with you and know you and get to interviews today. Thank you for letting me serve you and Michael love you, Love you so much. Thank you for joining me. You're welcome, Cave. She's a queen of talking. He how amazing was that episode with Blue. She's incredible. I just love her and admire her so much. You guys. Next week, I'm fired up.

I have the Sisterhood band joining me. This is two fabulous females, Alyssabon a Girth and Ruby Stewart, and together they make the Sisterhood and they are so incredible. Ruby is rock and roll royalty, her dad is Rod Stewart, and Alyssa also grew up in a traveling band, living on the road with her parents. Together, they have the sound that I've never heard before. Their energy is electric. They're beautiful, they're incredible. They're like Stevie Nick's magic all

sorts of stuff meets country music. Absolutely one of the best interviews ever. So make sure you subscribe on iTunes and then also go to my website Caroline hobby dot com and click watch because all of these episodes are now on video also, so you can watch them or listen to them whatever suits you best, so tune in next week for the Sisterhood