Fancy

He has a song out there with Ariana Grande and Megan Trainer called Boys Like You and it's amazing and riveting and he is just fantastic. We laughed so much. Like I said before, we almost got attacked by a spider and we survived. So that's any indication of how this interview goes. Just get ready because it's a blast. So please welcome Who Is Fancy and don't forget to subscribe on iTunes and on my website Caroline Hobby dot com. Join the fun. Every week every Wednesday will be coming

at you with a new episode. But here is Who Is Fancy? Just a heads up, this is adults having adult conversation, so there could definitely be some adult language and content. Hello, what's up here? Is fancy fancy? Fancy Fancy? Is it who is fancy? Or is it fancy? You know? I go by fancy in my day to day life, but who is Fancy? Is that the full stage name? You know? It started as a campaign and then it

kind of turned into a stage name. But I'm I'm in the middle of a little bit of a reinvention, so as you you should be Okay, I want to start off a little bit of a game that I want to get into, the whole campaign, the whole saga. Every time I'm letna say a word, you tell me the first thing that comes to mind. Crush Bradley Cooper, Oh good one, rustic man. Do you know how many faces just flooded through my mind when you, Oh man, I'm thinking like my celebrity ones, but then I'm also

think about my real ones. I can't say that, okay because people will actually know, Yeah, celebrity ones, I'm like really into that. You know. Let's just keep a country. We're here in Nashville. Sorry, And there's dogs in this podcast today. Because we're at my house and I have three dogs and they're all obsessed with I love them too. The feelings are mutual. Only the feelings between me and these dogs were like the men. I'm about the name and and me. It would be amazing. Life would be good.

The top five. Let's keep it country because I like like the cowboy rest man. I learned that about you yesterday. Yeah it's true. Um, I made that cowboy blust didn't. Um. I really think he's not a cowboy, but he sings country music. I think he's so hot. Brett Eldredge, Oh yeah's love him? Yes, um sam hut, Oh my god, like hand on the face, like sweating. He is sexy. Right, He's so hot and he's so nice. Yeah, just briefly so nice. Did you like brush each other's arms or anything?

I think it was like a like a oh, like hey man, and he was like like doing there's any chance he could go the other way? You know. I don't like to limit myself. I don't know. I'm if any wants me to turn someone into yeah, it's weird. The weird thing is I can't get a gaymander flirt with me to save my freaking life. Put me in a room with like Tin ahead of her sexuals and like it's a circus. It's really weird. I don't know what it is. Okay, So we got Brett Aldred, Sam Hunt. Yeah,

I'm like, I'm gonna keep it old school. I think Tim McGraw's oh super sexy, so sexy, such a dolf, such a dol and faith is such a yes good, they are good? Okay, anyone else? Um yeah, I mean there's a lot, so many. Um. I just literally had one that I'm not going to say say it no because I know him like really well. And then if he's like if he watches your podcast uncomfortable, well, I'm just not gonna say it because I'm like, I'm like

losing my cool, you know what I mean. Okay, you don't want to get okay, but there's a good chance you could like hang out with Brett for real or Sam. I've met both of them. I've never hung out with them. Oh get Moore is off so hot. He is very good looking, like a lot of muscles, lots of muscles. You must work out hours. I thought he can maybe pick me up totally. Man, be a little shorter than me though, that's okay. I have a rule about heights. Yeah, if you're not six ft one, we ain't having fun

six ft one. You need that one inch you wan't like what if it's like a dreamboat but he's six ft um, Come on, I don't know. One inch would ruin it for you. I just don't want to be taller than someone. Okay, So you like them to be the man, it's not about being the man. I want them to be like taller than me. But why because it's just what I'm interested in. That's what I'm attracted to. You like a manly man. Yeah, but their height doesn't mean they're manly. I've met several tall men that are

not manly. So what it is about the height, I don't know. I just like it. It's like your preference. Yeah, okay, Emily wants to make out with you. The funny thing that's happening here is Emmy lou is my one dog who's throwing herself at fancy and he could care less. But Sugar is my other dog who's kind of playing hard to get, and that's the only one you want. It's I mean, that's the story of my life, story of my life. Oh my gosh. Okay, so style. Yeah, I'm saying a word. You say one word? Yeah? Is

your one word? Oh? I forgot. We were playing that game. I was like, what about it? I forgot? Yeah, you like it. Let's start over. Taylor Swift, Oh good one. I love these crop tops. She's doing well. I'm hearing. We never go out of style. We never go out style. Okay, you got it. Get like some urban in your voice. It's like some soul. Yeah, I love it. Okay, I want to hear all about that later. Okay. Happiness yellow, I know you do. Your house is yellow. I love yellow.

Yellow is my favorite. UM bucket list Um Africa Okay. I kind of want to go to all the continents though, so maybe just travels to the world. I should should have said, okay in the first place, Africa, though, I mean, I just think that's probably the last place I could see myself. So what do you mean, the last place. I don't know what I'd be doing in Africa, So like maybe if I was like in Africa, be like, okay, I'm seeing the world, right, Okay, Okay, awesome. I went

to African amazing. Race was pretty balm. I want to do the Amazing Race. I think you do. I can hook you up. Yes, I think i'd be good on it, and I think you'd be great. Are you at a season in your life where you can do it? Okay, let me suggest you. Okay, great. Another casting agents like, how much running do you really do? An amazing Wait before we get into this, A lot. It's the most physical activity I've ever done in my whole life, really, but a lot of people do it, like you can

do it. You just have to mentally decide you want to do it. And sometimes, oh my gosh, go on girls, and sometimes it's sometimes it is really exhausting. Yeah, oh my god. But you could do it, you know, it'd be it'd be fun to check that off your list. Yeah, that would be a good Amazing Race, would be a good buck work on that. Yeah, it's a great way to travel the word. I'm also scared of flying though.

Running and flying are like two main ingredients of Amazing Race. Yeah, are you abow to take xan X while you're on them? They're really strict about pills. You can't take any pills? Well, then I don't maybe not? Maybe Amazing Race isn't my outlet. Maybe that's maybe you should do survivor? Can you do an X one Survivor? They're really strict about like over the account. They won't even do over the counter pills.

Really yeah, I had to beg to take units on sleeping pill because I cannot sleep on planes and that's over the counter. But it was like pulling teeth to get that approved. Wow, that's crazy, Okay, um Icon, how does she do it? I don't know. She's perfect in every way, every way, every way the best. She's really the best. She's the best. Do you think your dreams would be shattered if she and jay Z got divorced? Um, I don't know. I don't know that my dreams would

be shattered. I mean, if Beyonce hurts, I hurt un that's just like how it is. So maybe i'd be maybe I think i'd be upset form Beyonce. But like space, she's Beyonce. How did she become Beyonce? I don't know. But did you see that there's a gift online of like there's a little short video clip of she was on the View and will Be Goldberg literally goes, she goes your Beyonce, and Beyonce's response was, thank you. Did

you see that? I just want to get to a phase in my life when people just say my name, I assume it's a compliment. It's just yes, you receive it. I am this is me. Yes, thank you. Well you have a name like Beyonce fancy fancy, which could be a compliment. It was like, you are fancy, thank you, So maybe i'm the practice you're fancy. Thank you. That hair flip is okay, discuss sting fish. You don't like fish, you should work on that. I used to like fish

and I love it. Really. Yes, it's a texture thing. Really, it's not anything to do with the taste. I just don't like the texture. Huh. Okay. Boobs hmm. Do you think they're gross? I don't think they're gross, but I just don't have you ever like seen any Have you ever like touched me? Yeah, I've probably seen more boobs than like heterosexual man because girls just like but you have You've never been interested in boobs, No, not even once. No, you never wanted to motor boat those things. I mean

I definitely motor boat boobs you have. Yeah, it's more for like shocking off. I'm like my best friend now the Osborne you know her, There's no way I'm not going to do that. Like that's just like did you like it? I mean, there's nothing to like. It's just like just like blobs of fat. It's not even like, oh my gosh, what are we gonna do these ducks? I don't know. I mean, look at that phase. I mean, I don't know if you'all can see her face, but it's terrible. I don't she has RBF rest. She totally

has resting bitch face. I don't know to do them. Like when we decided to do the interview er here, I forgot I had three dogs. I think they're adding a lot. Okay, as long as you're okay with I love them. Um, yeah, so you motor boat to boobs and it was yeah, I mean I don't Yeah, I don't know. I'm on phase by like, but I mean in what context? I mean like a good juicy butt like Beyonce. But yeah, I can appreciate like a nice butt on boys angirls. Okay, Um music love your true love.

I mean it's my life. Yeah, like I was telling you really, like I literally I always have some sort of like song coming through my head always always? Do you record them in your phone? Sometimes sintimes not? I have a wild memory. Really yeah, I have a terrible when it comes to like lyrics, and like my own lyrics are like um, like songs I'm creating. I rarely write anything down. My publishers hate me. You remember the whole song. I remember a lot of things, even if

you're writing a lot of songs. That's crazy. Okay, So I want to get into your life. Your name is Jacob how good? How do you say it? Hey? Good? Hey good? Hey, I'm good good. That's your real name. You're born in Arkansas into a Christian household. So I want to talk to you about that because you're openly gay. Was that um an issue with your family growing up?

I mean growing up. I didn't come out of the closet until I was twenty years old now, so you just recently came out four years ago, almost five years ago. Did you always is no, you're gay? Yeah? I mean I don't. I don't know if I have I ever always had a name for it. I think I always knew. I was, like, you know, in like third grade to be like all the boys were friends and I was around, and it'd be like one of these things isn't like the other. You know, That's just kind of how it felt.

But the more and more I started being able to identify it and knowing what it was, I definitely it was definitely like, Okay, did you ever day girls? Um, like guess and no kind of did just maybe trying it. But I was really good at like playing like the Christian boy next door, like I can't even kiss me, yeah exactly, that's for that's for the Lord. Oh but

really that wasn't. Yeah, I was just like I had a lot like going on in my head about like what did the families say when you said him coming out? I mean, it was a difficult transition. But my family, I mean, I mean my parents have always been my support and my rock and have always supported me in

every end ever I've ever gone into. And um, when I came out of the closet, it didn't I mean, it was like I think it was hard for them to hear, but it was more of like, um, looking back at it now, it's kind of like being able to see like how close to me and my family are now, And like I think It's something that brought us all closer because it opened up a whole door

of like conversations that just were never had. When you grow up in like a Christian household, so many things are so taboo, and so many things they're like not you know, allowed to talk about them. And now it's kind of like, you know that an elephant in the

room was discussed in such a large scale. And not only that, now I stand on a higher pedestal where it's not only people in my family, people anyone who knows me because I'm gay and like my you know, people in Arkansas know my family, have me and their family, and I think for my I think for my parents, and I don't know about my sisters, but I think I was one of the first, like openly gay people

that they had a relationship with them. And I think they've met gay people before, but it wasn't like they had like a relationship with people. And that's an interesting thing because in Nashville and l A and all the like the big cities that you know, we live in, it's not a big like no one even it's not even a thing, you know, no one even cares. But in smaller towns. You forget that it still is this. So I grew up in Arkansas and there definitely was

a divide. And like it's funny because even in the short time of me coming out and or dropped. I drapped out of high school because I was bullied so badly and for being flamboyant and for being different. And yeah, and I moved to Nashville right away. My parents supported that and we're you know, one on board, had no qualms and did what they had to do to help me get out of that. And um, moved to Nashville. My parents drove me here. Oh seventeen, didn't know anyone,

and they drove me here. And yeah, I come I come from really good people. And I think when I came out of the closet that just um, I think when like trying times, I think that's when you really see people's character. I really learned what good people my family were, or my family are, because it's like with my dad and my mom, it's like they're Christians and like they believe in, you know, the Christian faith and God and all that stuff and didn't change their faith

at all. I don't know. I think it made it stronger because I think I think a lot of the legalistic stuff that gets caught up in religion and opinion and the way people live their life and the way people judge each other. I mean, the Bible specifically talks about that, and it's like anti that. So it's like everything that you know people don't like about Christianity kind of comes from that a human form of trying to understand. So I don't know, I don't really dive into all

that religious stuff anymore. That's definitely like in my past. But um, love and be loved. I just I just want to love people. I want to be nice, I want I want to be kind. I want to have a good time. Like, why do we have to box everyone into like putting rules and boxes on people. It takes too much energy to be mean, it does, and what's the point of it anyway, just because someone is different than you. I have a hard time with that too.

But you know that being said, I do respect all religions of faith, and if anyone's dogma, I I totally am respectful. And um, you're just getting back. I look up to my parents more now because I really feel like they put their faith to the test when I came out of the closet, and truly, I feel like truly showed you know, what they say they believe. I feel like they were walking the talk, you know, and it was like you don't often see that. Yeah, And so I just have a giant amount of respect for

my parents and a very deep love for them. And I know it's I know it's a vice versa. I talked to my dad and my mom every day on the phone. Yeah, that's best. Good for you for just going for it and put an authentic home for like three months. I lived in Nashville when I came out, and it was like it was hard. So I was kind of like I didn't know if. I was like, there's no real way to deal with this head on, So I just moved home for your months and dealt

with it head on the way to do it. Yeah, I think the longer you live with like suppressing yourself, the more it comes outsideways. Oh for sure. Yeah, So go you Okay, So I want to get to your music video, which you'd cover a lot of topics in and goodbye before I kind of start at the beginning. I'm very like O C D. I don't want to

miss a step. So you got your stage name Fancy because you worked at Forever twenty one, and that's when you had come out and into your own and you started wearing makeup and painting your nails and being fabulous. And one was definitely like I love there Forever twenty one, like a huge part of your story. Yeah, so it's definitely. It was definitely the first like, um, a safe place

you can be whatever you want there. Well yeah, I mean like it's, um, it's just an environment where like fashions like the thing, and like, yeah, I like you're able to, like yeah, you're able to just like express yourself. And like it was the first time I worked I was around like other openly gay men like my whole life, and I mean obviously growing up in Arkansas, I wasn't around that. And then I when I moved here, I went to a Christian college, so like I wasn't around it.

And then this was the first place where I really had like openly gay friends. And it was kind of like I remember one of my managers was joking with me because like the first like two or three weeks I worked there, I kept doing like like you know I'm gay, right, And I just kept saying it and she feels so good. Yeah, because I just wanted everyone

to know. I would like, may people like, well, I'm gay, and like everyone's just going like no, ship like yeah, And this is kind of funny because my manager was like, hey, you know, we really have to tell people that, and I was like, I just feel like they need to know. Like I was so passionate about just like because it was the first place. Yeah, and then in turn, like I was trying to do the whole music thing and

like my forever twenty one peeps that were there. I mean the first year I worked there was just so amazing. I worked in the cool Springs one and the whole crew was just I mean we worked together, we partied together. I mean it was just like a cool I'm sorry, yeah, I mean it was just it makes look expensive, Yeah, I like for every twenty one. It was just like a really great place for me to really start discovering who I am, because when you're like nineteen twenty and like,

that's just a crucial part of like finding yourself. And there was so much going on for me as a twenty year old just came out of the closet, Like there was just so much going on in my head, in my life and to have that outlet and those people around me that were just kind of so carefree and non judgmental and just fun and living life in the big city of Nashville, because Nashville was a big city to me. Yeah, when I moved from Arkansas, I was like, I don't think I had driven on a

highway before I moved here, so crazy. Yeah, So it's just a really cool like launching pad for me. And as I was trying to do the whole music thing, um, all the conversations around town always had to deal with my sexuality well you know that kind of thing. And it was just like I was trying to think, like to myself, like how can I get around that, Like, what is something I can do to like make it a Nolan Wood like thing? So what was it? Well?

I started wearing makeup, doing my nails, and I kind of like just by appearance, people would just automatically no, and it wasn't a conversation to have and all this stuff and that kind of didn't work. And then but I liked who I was wearing my makeup and doing my nails and having my hair every which color and um, there was like, this is your natural color right now, this is my natural color right now. It looks great. It's kind of like a little red lead bread rounds beautiful. Um. Yeah.

So one of one of my coworkers for twenty one and would always because the Drake song was popular then fancy and I would walk in just like done. It shouldn't be like, oh you fancy Hunt, you can get fancy Hunt. I was kind of and I was just kind of like it caught on for me because it was like for the first time someone was calling me a name that I was like, you know what, go out, damn strain it. That's me. I am fancy. It's exactly

what I am. And so I did my first shows fancy and sold out and it was just like this wild, crazy night and you hadn't really no one even really knew who you were before then. I mean I had spent a good year going around calling myself fancy before I did the show, so like, wow, the industry was curious. Yeah, so they all, I mean, it's sold out and people just were kind of like I was rapping at that point.

It was like really crazy and wild and um, it was just yeah, it was like kind of like a weird moment in time, but it was it kind of like validation that you're on the right track. It was kind of like the moment where I was like, Okay, I can do this and I can do it as me. Yeah, And I actually made enough money at that show to be able to like like stopped working as much of her twenty one and like keep like, um, it was like the first one I was paid to do a show,

which was like crazy yeah. And then I was like because like at that point, like I think I made like two grand, which is like that's a big deal for a show in Nashville. It's a big deal when you're making like you know what I mean. And then all of a sudden, like someone and I'm like what the goal? And then I go to the let No, you're not something. It's like there's your one month re like okay, you can stay here for them creating to

the gold like you're ready. Yeah, yeah, my bags and Hermitage were passed, but but no, it was just a really freshman one was a really special place for me. Did you always know you wanted to saying like you were you in bands and choir or something or that. Always I mean, even when I was little, if you asked me what I wanted to be, I was gonna it was the answer was always a superstar. You're you know, I think some people just know when you're called for it.

I mean, I mean I don't. I mean, I don't know what everyone else believes, but like, I definitely think my life was kind of like ordained, and like I feel like I definitely have a purpose and my soul has a purpose, and I feel like this whole fancy thing I've really I feel I've really tapped into like my life's purpose of just preaching individuality and being being love and light and you know, just doing me and

hoping that other people. I grew up in a situation where that wasn't always an option, and maybe like me putting my music out there and me putting myself out there in this situation will open up doors for kids like me in those places that don't have that option and don't have that outlet. Maybe they see that, like they can be what they want to be and they can do what they want to do, and maybe they're not fancy but they are unique and they are special and they can they can let that part of them.

Was it hard for you as a kid, not being able to be yourself? Oh my god, yeah I was. I mean I got buoyed from such a young age. Like it was just like I remember I was in the fourth grade and some kid like held me down and he was like, why do you only hang out

with girls? And I was seeing to myself, like I didn't say anything, so I was like terrified, but I see to myself, it's better than hang out with you, you know what I mean, Like that kind of moment, and it's just like my whole life it's been like that. And now, I mean living in Nashville, Like it's kind of a cool feeling to know I can go to Red Door or Rebar or wherever I'm going winners losers and like Santa's pud, Like no, I'm gonna walk in there,

and like my sexuality does not matter. It's not even a conversation. Yeah. And I have so many friends of so many walks of life and so many I mean, Nashville has just been such a great place for me. And I don't think people think of Nashville is like a very like open whatever. But like, um, I don't wear my sexuality on my sleep. That's not what makes me unique. It's not what makes me different. My personality, my vibrance, my um, the way I see things, that's

what makes me different. And I think people in Nashville, the people I'm friends with and people have grown to love here, have really celebrated me for that. And I feel so comfortable in the city. And this is where I like to be. I like to go out here, I like to have fun here. It's just it's just such a light place, you know what I mean. It is.

That's such a great way of saying it. Whenever anyone asked me about Nashville, I always just I'm like exuberant about it because I feel I feel like it's magical. I feel like there's so many creative people here. Everyone is competing with themselves. I don't know if anyone's competing with each other. You know. I live in Los Angeles now,

and I always come back to Nashville. I rea things are it's always and you know, I have I have and I'm not I don't like I'm saying this on like record, but it's like in l A. I feel like it's hard to be like really good friends with people that do what you do. I mean, my my closest friends and l A are all dancers, and like it's like we're all creative, we're all in the same space,

but we don't do the same thing. And it's like, um here all of my best friends are and in the music bits and they're all doing what I do. They're writers, they're artists there, but there's no competition, there's no there's no jealousy. I mean, like everyone roots for each other. Yeah, I mean this is the same the same week, like things in my career started kind of having like like you know, dip and that's just so everyone knows everyone's career is that way. There's eyes and love,

you know. The one week my career is in a low, my friends were all in Los Angeles because they were all nominated for Grammys, and it's like I could not be anymore proud and seeing my friends being celebrated in way it made me feel like I was getting nominated for a Grammy. Because some of your friends are Megan Trainer, Brothers Osborne, You've got like a laundry list of important friends. I mean, yeah exactly. And the thing that I love about those friendships is if you took music out of it,

those are still my homies. Those are still your friends with them before any of y'all had stuff going on. I've never been written a song with Brothers Osborne. I've never written a song with case of Scrapes. Like that's music is not what binds us. It's like, those people are my friends because I like who they are, they like who I am, and it's just kind of like gonna make you want to cry a little bit. Yeah,

oh my god. When in Los Angeles, like I was, I was working, I was doing like some like work for E I did like the red Carpet after party with Ross Matthews, who's my favor I love him. Tell him to hire me to psychic Yeah, this podcast straight Talk is the best, and I was on that. It was so so much fun. He's the best. Yeah. So I did that, and I was like mom, because like, you know, Brothers Osborne, their sister Natalie, who's my best friend the entire world. And Lucy was another one of

my best friends, Lucy so John osborneborn Um. They were all there at the Grammys and I was like, they're going to that party and I'm only invited to this party. And like, Umnwie, there's a spider on your couch where look? Oh, let's just throw it. I don't know, Sugar, do you think it's when you've been staring at that? I was wondering when you're staring. Well, I saw on the wall and I was like, as long as it's there, I'm good, Like I'm fine. But it started crawling towards you on

the couch and I got nervous. So I was like you like you're like in like Jurassic Park over here or something. No, you don't understand. Like I love dogs, I love them, spiders not so much. It was a daddy long like, I don't think it can bide us the most poisonous. I think that was proven wrong on MythBusters, but I might be high, Sugar, Okay, so you want

to go to this party? Yeah? Natal? The n t J were texting me and John and we're all we're all like a thread for like hanging in that weekend in l A. And they were like, are you coming out tonight? And I was just like I'm not. Like I was like I can't get into those parties, like you're going to this and I'm on these lists and you're on those lists, and they were like we'll figure

it out, just like come meet us. And so like I'm in like my rose gold like sequin kimono, like floor lenk, just like running through downtown Los Angeles trying to find like the seven eleven they were apart that and then because like you know, when you're nominated for a Grammy, I guess they give you a driver in a car to like just drive you wherever, and so

the right I've never had that luxury. So one day, so I'm like they're like, we're at the seven eleven on like this and the corner of this and this, we're just waiting for you and so like and like it was pandemonium downtown and so I'm like they're like like running like trying to like figure out where they are, and we finally find him and I got in that car.

I got in their suburban and like I was saying, like shotgun and they were on the back and like just turning around and seeing like four of the best humans on earth like just like all dressed up and like I literally about I'm about to cry now, Like I literally was just like I was like this, and all of your friends are authentically living their dreams and following their passion. And not only that, they're supporting me and doing the same thing every high, every low. They're

my friends regardless. Those people would still be my friends if I worked for every twenty one. And that's what's beautiful about it. Is like I got in that car and like just knowing the week I had, in the month I've had, and like it's been it's been low. You know, it hasn't been the most like glamorous of times. And to get in that car and to know that those people that are like so talented and so like

just crazy good. You know, they were sitting at seven eleven waiting on my ass to get there before they went to that party. It just I don't know. It was this point. It's the point of life exactly. I was like this and this moment, this is what matters. And this is no record deal, no record deal, no management company, no song, nothing could take this moment from me because those things are temporary. This is what matters. You know. I love that and I love of our friends.

I admire you guys from a farm. I'm trying to weez them away in there. Your angl come on in. We're very welcoming. I know. I'll just start showing up, will start texting it. Yeah. Um, you were discovered by Scooter Braun, who's Justin Bieber's manager, Scott Proshe and Dr Luke. How did that happen? You know? Girl? I think, like I said, trilogy of intense. Yeah, so Big Machine signed me first, I signed as a writer to a big machine. Um. They put me in a joint venture with Dr Luke.

I started writing with Luke. Um, what about that scandal going on with him? I have no comment. I'm dying to know the truth. Yeah. I don't know the truth either. I mean I don't know. You guys write songs, Dr Luke? Yeah, Max Martin, Yeah, I've written with Yeah Pinching. Who are you? That's the top of the top. Yeah, I mean it's crazy. I was right. I worked with them for the g r L record. It was a girl band and um, I worked with them on that project and it was

it was amazing time. I learned a lot. But who I am as a writer and even furthermore an artist, and what I wanted, and um, I talked Dr Luke and Big Machine even though they weren't quite sure about my artist's ambition and all that stuff. I mean, the Big Machines always been super supportive of me no matter what I can. They found a writer. Well, I was an artist doing my shows as a rapper, and it was just you had your two thousand dollars, that's where

Big Machines tall you. Well, it was like three shows after that, that's where they found me. And I had met with Mike a couple of times before and he's just he's just an amazing person. And um, so he signed me to Big Machine Music and then run Publishing's publishing a Big Machine and then he's the best, and um he signed me to the joint venture with Dr Luke bea. So how did that happen? Um, they had started they had been talking about starting a joint venture

Becka Tisker who runs Prescription Music. She's she's wonderful, She's wonderful, and then um, um so her and Mike started to venture. They put one artist writer in and then I was the second one to be signed. So um it was kind of nice and like my first trip to l A. I was writing with Luke and my second trip. I was at this point, No, I think I cried every single day, Like I was just kind of so confused.

And then, um, the more and more, the more and more I was in l A and writing for the people, the more I was kind of like, I don't know if this is my gig. I'm an artist and I need to get back to that, because that's how I got signed, was doing my shows and so you were writing just strictly as a writer. It must be a badass writer to hang with Dr Luke and being rooms with other artists and Max, I mean that's you must hold your weight, you know. I love writing, it is

It's one of my passions. But I write my stories, you know. So it's like I have a hard time giving those stories to other people. And when when when the stars aligned? And like the situations right, like, of course I write for other people, and if I'm passionate about UM projects, I obviously definitely want to write on them. And but yeah, I just had my own artist ambition and was very important to me and always will be. So I convinced them to do a showcase and then um,

at that show. At my first show in l A. It was at Hotel Cafe, which is a very big deal. It's like we're it's like the up and coming people. Everyone's performed there. Everyone. So I did it there and it was a great crowd and um, a lot of people came out and that week, um my um, one of scooters managers on his company reached out and we went and met and that's where I signed there, And it happened quickly. It was all pretty quick. Yeah, you kind of had a dream situation. I have had a

whirlwind past three years. Yeah. I signed a big machine three years ago, moved to town pretty much or two years after moved to town. Yeah, like starting into my third year, big deal. Yeah, and starting in my third year, and then um, it's back, it's back. It's Oh I killed it. Oh my gosh. I was not trying to kill it. For the record, I really want I was not trying to kill so funny, Okay everyone, are you afraid of spiders? I hate spiders? Yeah? Oh my god.

So it happened really fast for you, because not everyone hasn't happened that fast. I mean it was, I mean yeah, so you clearly got to your authentic self quickly. I feel like sometimes people have to get to town, explore for a while, try things on like you were already ready to go, you had it all. I mean, I think I just always let the music speak, and I think that's what everyone's always seen as, like the music.

And um, I think I've had to figure out a lot of stuff along the way, and each year has been a new lesson learned. And I'm just I feel like I'm just getting stronger and stronger and stronger and better and better and better. And um, I mean tell me something. Lessons you learn? Oh my word. I mean I'm in a season in my life right now where i just feel like I've learned everything. You know what, you know what the biggest lesson I've learned through this

whole process. Nobody is my end all be all. I will be done when I say I'm done. And that's that's how I feel. And yeah, I mean I've had a lot of people tell me no. I mean just I mean it sounds like, you know, it happened like this and it was overnight and great. I had a lot of people tell me no. I had a lot of people tell me this isn't gonna happen for you. You don't belong in this town. This isn't you know.

You're not a writer, you're not an artist. You'll never make it on Top forty radio and stuff like that. Really like just kind of inspires me because it's like it lights a fire and I'm like, you know what, Because someone told me I wouldn't make it in Nashville, the National is too big of a city. I moved there. I did it. Someone told me I'd never get a publishing deal. Did that. Then it was like, you're not

really an artist. Okay, got signed as an artist, and it's like you don't know if Top forty is your avenue. My first single went Top forty. It's goodbye. Yeah. And then and now it's kind of like I'm in a spot where it's like, um, who I want to be as an artist and what I want to do is is being questioned and up for whatever, and um, I'm just ready to take I'm just ready to take the reins myself. And do you know the direction you want to go? Yes, very much, So tell me about it, um,

And I want to talk about your past. I wanna talk about goodbye and Megan Trainer, and tell me about where you're going. This record I've been putting together. It's it's fun, it's young, it's rhythmic, it's honest, it's very open. I'm putting it all out there. I mean, it's about love, loss and heartbreak, steamy situations, it's about it's all in it, you know. It's like, I'm this, this is my journal, and I wanted to all be like very much answerable. I want people. I want people my age relate to.

I want people younger than me to relate to. I want people order than me to relate to it. And um, it's it's a very lively um ethereal cardinal um rhythmic tribal situation. Oh girl, it's like passion and appetite. I like the cardinal cardinal. Okay, I love that. So what about when you put your song out Goodbye. You did this whole campaign which was really freaking cool, and how did you pull it off? I don't know. We're basically like,

you didn't ever show who you are. You did like videos all over the internet with other people lip syncing your song, and then you had your big debut on Jimmy Fallon who's the best. He's wonderful and you like turn around your blue glitter and and I was like, here is fancy. But after like months of no one knowing who you were, how did you come up with

that plan? Um? That plan was decided once I signed into Scooter braun sp Projects and my manager Olivia then manager Olivia and U Republic, And it was the marketing plan that got put in place. And did you like that marketing plan? Yeah? I really loved the idea of it not being about anything other than the song and the music, and um, I was into it. And of course when you it was my first record deal, you know, you're you're kind of just like anxious and eager and

will do anything, so that was a good distinction. Yeah. So I was just kind of like they went with it. It went, you know, it was just kind of over like it's kind of a rapid fire thing that just kind of happened, and um, yeah it was really cool. The Fallon thing was the first time that I was literally just like he was blown away by you. He's amazing, He's so wonderful. How is he so wonderful? Oh? I don't know. That's one of my crushes going back to

the beginning, good throw him on there. Yeah, he's he was just so kind and sweet and um, everything he is on his show, he was in real life. So it was just it was an amazing experience and um yeah, and I'm super I'm super grateful for every experience I've encountered,

this whole fought, this whole, this whole time. I mean it's I mean it's easy to like say, like when things aren't going right or when you know things aren't looking good, it's easy to be jaded or like look back on it and be like, well, you know, I shouldn't have done this, we shouldn't have done that. But that's not me. And this whole past year and a half since getting signed and having everything happened for me

has been a whirlwind. I mean it has. I can say I've done things that a lot of up and coming artists don't always get the chance to say they've done. What are some of those things I mean I did? I did fallon my song went top forty on radio. Um, I went on tour with Ariana Grande and Megan t Yeah, and then Ariana Megan both saying on my on my second single we performed on Dancing with the Stars. I mean, I've had a dream situation. I mean a lot of people don't do that in a year and a half,

and um, I can say I did. And I've learned a lot. I feel like I've been through a very extreme boot camp, and I know I'm a better artist, and I know I'm a better writer, and i know I'm a better person because of the experiences I've gone through this past year and a half. And no one can take that from me. So it's like moving forward and leaving a lot of that behind. As far as like work goes, it's it's exciting. I feel free, I feel invigorated. I feel like I feel like this is

just the beginning. And do you feel like now maybe you know things you would say no to, like you said as a new artist, And I can told when I walked into my first management meeting, which was I mean, it's not even about saying yes, it's just about wanting something so bad and it's like, you know, you see it.

You you see it with your own eyes, what your future is like, what you want for yourself, and like you know, people were like, yeah, I get it, you know talent, yes, but but it's like I walked in there was three five pounds. I was I had one song to my artist repertoire. Everything else was written for other people, had one song that I had written for myself. And I walked in. I was like, here's this. I'm

ready to be an artist, please and thank you. You know what I mean in and it's like, now, I mean the experiences I've had and like the lessons I've learned, and the songs I have and the music I've created, and the people I've met along the way. I mean, I don't know what's going to shake me moving forward, Like walking into a management meeting or walking into a label meeting. I know what I need, I know what I'm worth, and I know what I deserve. And it's

like those are things that are priceless. Yeah, it's it's it's hard to know those things. And and I'm not working with Scooter Brown anymore. I'm not working with Republic anymore. But um, those relationships are positive and everything was it was an amlicable split, and um, I'm one grateful and appreciative and of the experiences given to me this past

year and a half. It's so interesting that you say that, because I feel like this industry prepares but you said nothing can shake you, Like it's hard for something to shake you. This industry rowse you into so many situations, with so many walks of life. I feel like a big thing that happened to me was I had to let go of like trying to control stuff or trying to control outcomes, or trying to like, you know, have my hand like heavily on stuff because there's so many

moving pieces. When you're really committed to the entertainment industry, definitely, do you feel like you've learned how to just kind of surrender it over like work hard. I mean so much of the process. I mean literally why my song was on radio. I was underground, like not even allowed to talk who I was about who I was, And I mean that's a hard process. And like it was like I kept remembering, if if I can get through this, I'm good, and then there'd be one more thing that

was just like rattled me to the core. And then there'll be after I got through that, there'd be another thing that just rattled me to the core, and after that something else, and after that something else. And having friends like Megan Trainer and Brothers Osborne and Casey. I mean, I've seen all of them go through similar situations, you know, and so it's like I've learned a lot from a lot of people from who have who are way greater than me and have done using things, and um, what

have you learned from them? How to handle those situations? I mean, just knowing that my situation is not uncommon and and things I'm going through aren't like unique to me, and I have a bad habit as I think a lot of artists and creative people do to make things personal and it's like this is an attack on me

when it's like, no, it's not. It's this is what's happening currently, and if it wasn't, you would be this person, or it has happened to everyone else, And just knowing that like everyone's road has been bumpy, it's not no one's. No one's road to success was gold, you know. It's like it's it's always high, like we talked about earlier, it's highs and lows and being able to see my

friends go through those highs and lows. I mean, Brothers Osbourne is just celebrated their first number one and it's like a very long road, and it's so inspiring to me when that song went number one, when they got nominated for a Grammy as someone who's watching from afar, it's like, it makes me want to go to the studio and work a little bit harder. It makes me want to go to those meetings and listen a little more intently. It makes me it makes me want to work on myself and my art and my and my

passion in your vision. Yeah, it makes me want to go there. It makes me want to like continue when so many times this industry put stuff on you that you're just kind of like, I could do without this, Like what is this? Like this is not what I signed up for? But don't you think it is not what we signed up for. It's like no one knows that break that down. There's all this stuff that goes with being an artist that no one knows about. This's

not glamorous. Yeah, it's like glamorous bullshit bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, more bullshit bullshit, bullshit, glamour bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, glamour bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullit. Everyone thinks you make, you get a record deal in your life is just made in the shade. Yeah, and I mean it. It's awesome. Don't get me wrong. I was gonna say, it's like, there's nothing else in this world I'd rather be doing

than what I'm doing now. In every high and every low, I try to remind myself that. But I mean, there's just some situations that happen where you're just kind of like, because I am a writer, I could pack all this up. I could go be in Nashville, in a city I love, with the people I love, and write songs every day and that could be my life. You'd be happy and I would be happy. Um, but you feel you're being called to do that I have. I think I have something that i have to do and I'm not going

to stop until I've done it. Speaking of your platform, one really awesome thing you did with your with your music video video Goodbye, you really covered some serious topics. Why what what made you want to do that? Because that's a big, brave, awesome move that you did. You hit on a lot of things I'm so tired of in this industry and in this world, people having getting to have opinions about other people based off things that don't pertain to them. It's like someone wants to talk

about my sexuality, my my femininity, my flamboyancy. They want to talk about me having makeup. What I want to know is me having any of that? What does that have to do with anyone else? And when getting signed and all the stuff and talking about it, it's like, you know, everyone's making what what is Middle America gonna think? Or what is so and so going to think? Or

like what about this? And it's like, I just think it's so interesting growing up in Middle America and that being in my life, Like thinking about how much weight gets put on people's appearance, people's sexuality, people's gender. Tell me about your music video? What did you cover on that? Yeah? So we had three different people actors, um pretend to be me, but they were all um in different ways. They were not acceptable to the standard of what a

pop star is. Um. We had a girl who is um so much fun on set and she was just so kind, but you know she was a bigger woman and um, she walks into her sweats and like just walks in and then through the process they turned into this like glamorous diva, you know. And it's like there's another one who his name is Marcus and he walked in as a woman. He walked in is his like how he sees himself? And um, his I think his woman's name is Daniella. I mean, he's a beautiful woman

and a beautiful man. It's kind of crazy. And through that process of him going through the video, you see them turn him into a cowboy and then, um, the third one was this kid who's just like tattooed up, like, walks in and then I'm just kind of a street kid and then they cover his tattoos up with an airbrush and then make him into like a Justin Bieber look alike. So basically, it's saying they're turning someone's who they what they originally are and they're authentic self into

something that's acceptable. And you're kind of saying like I'm done with that, you know what I'm saying. That's not okay, is what I'm saying. And um with the Goodbye thing, I think a lot of people listen to it and it's I mean, obviously I wrote it when I was going through a relationship um plunder, but it's like there's a lot of things that we allow in our lives so that we do need to say goodbye to and um, other people's opinions is kind of one of the biggest ones.

I feel so much free now that I just do not give a ship what people think about me. I don't When was that turning point for you? Um, when I became fancy, So it was like an evolution. It literally was like a million pound way lifted off in me. I felt like I could run for the first time. That's awesome. Yeah, So then you did a big song with Megan Trainer and I wrote a song in Nashville with Bobby Pierrot and one of his writer's named Jason Gantt,

and um, it was my favorite song. And when I got signed, I literally demanded that this song was on my record or was I was allowed to sing it because it was about boys I don't know, Yeah, and Scooter and everyone on board at the time, because that's probably the most like out there songs saying because even Sam Hunt, Sam Smith, he didn't like outwardly talk about sexual like the gender. Yeah, I am in no way ambiguous. I never want to be hushed. I'm like I said earlier,

these songs are my journals and um. As we covered earlier about crushes, I have a lot of them, and I make common mistakes with every single boy, and it's just kind of like I was telling, I literally walked into Bob's writing room and it was just kind of like talking about it, and he was like, well, you need to stop following for boys like that. I was like,

oh my god. And we wrote the song and Megan and I have been friends for a long time and yeah, and we have been writing together since we were way before she was Megan Trainer. I mean, yeah, for sure. I still have an email in my Gmail account from where she's like, yo, if you know Megan, it's yo. UM. I don't know if I want to be an artist or anything, but if I do, if I do decide to do it, this would be my song. And it's all about that bass. Are you kidding me? Literally? I was, yeah.

I mean it's like and then like at the Grandma, she's the best new artists, and it's just kind of like, I guess she decided to be an artist. Wasn't cool? Sh It happens to really cool people, and it's like it's just it's inspiring to me, and it's like Megan's road hasn't been like paved with gold, and it's just it's I mean, she's a she's a real cool chick, and so I was really nice to have her on

this song. And at first it was just her and Eye and then at the time, me and Ariana had the same manager and the same label, and they were like, what if what if this was like your Bang Bang moment? And they they asked me if i'd write a third verse for Arianna. So I did, and that weekend I was in the studio with Ariana Grande and was that amazing? Yeah? I mean, Arianna is an amazing She's just so funny and she's fun to be around, and she can do

she's hysterical. I mean, yeah, she really can't. I would hate to know what her impersonation of me is probably, I mean maybe I don't know it has to be, but she Yeah, she was a lot of fun to be with, and the three of us together is just they're both friends. So it's just it's really cool. Was that just a real moment in your life? Oh? Yeah, but you as with the stars when I was like the three of us. I was just kind of like, what is life? Yeah, I don't know, I don't know,

just going with it. Yeah, but it's one of those things. It's like I think two years ago, people would have told me that wasn't wouldn't be possible, and it happened, and I'm super grateful for it. I Mean, both Megan and Ariana have been amazing to me and it supported me in like a really big way. And so they've just been really good friends to me in real life and in my career. So super thankful for them. So what are you most excited about for two thousand six.

I'm most excited about getting back to me and um, getting back to the music I want to create, and putting out the images of me I want to put out there, and um, not sugarcoating it. I'm excited about that. That's what I'm excited about, not sugarcoating. I wanted to be real, I wanted to be raw, I wanted to be honest. I wanted to be fancied. Word to your mother dropped the mic on that. Okay, So okay, let's wrap up. That was kind of amazing. I like to

leave with a little segment called leave your light. So give me some inspiration, something that's inspiredy or something that you want to inspire on others. Oh my goodness, I feel like I gave all my inspirational stories away. Did you actually this is kind of like a leave your Light episode. Yeah, Like the whole thing was really empowering,

which honestly is the point of my podcast. I am spotlighting people who have had long journeys and everyone thinks they just see like the highlight the highlight reel, But behind behind the highlight reel there is like a lot of ship that goes down and it's a long journey. Have to commit to it. So I think it's inspiring

to hear people's stories like yourself, you don't give up. Yeah, And I think about when if it was like leave your Light and like I knew, like a bunch of like kids like in Arkansas, we're going to hear it, and like the first thing that's on you're heavy on your heart? What comes to your heart first? Something to you? I think I would like, I just I don't believe them, is what I would say. Is when people doubt you,

don't believe them. Believe yourself and believe in yourself and that's kind of been the backbone of my whole life is everyone's like, how did you do this? Or how did you get through that? How did you get through this? And it's like, I've never not believed in myself, regardless of I was open about my sexuality, regardless if I was in Arkansas, regardless if I was in Nashville or Los Angeles. I've always believed in myself. And I think that comes from my parents instilling that in me. Um,

you gotta write that too. Don't believe them? Yeah, I like that's I just don't believe people who don't understand my vision, who don't see it and speak doubt. I don't. I don't believe in speaking doubt to anyone. I think it's it's our job as people to lift people up and to make people feel magical and to make them realize that they're best versions of themselves, because so many people have done that for me, and it's like, I feel like that's the kind of person I want to be.

When people don't speak that way, when people speak negative, when people are hurtful, speak doubt into others, I don't believe it. It's not worth my time. I love that and that's not the legacy you're trying to leave. No, no, no, no, no, fancy fancy you're the greatest human on earth. Oh my god, I think you might be. No. I feel like you have a lot to I feel like you have a big message to share. I believe I do too. And I'm really excited about this album that's coming together and um,

just opportunities that around the corner. They're coming. Yeah, I feel them. I feel like it's smell a lot more so close. Okay, we're wrapping up. You did your light, But like, don't you really believe that? I feel like speak talking about this is a little bit for creative people. I think especially can feel stuff coming like it's like you see it almost happening. And that's not a hippie dippie voodoo ship. I mean I I think everything happens for a reason. I mean, nothing in my life has

been unanswered. It's like this happens in the moment, I'm like, why is this happening? And then in a very short time it's kind of like, oh, and I really believe that thing Like one door shuts and a window opens, and my life experience has been like a door shut and like the house falls down and I'm like good to go, Like it's like I can go anywhere. So it's like that's what I feel right now. I feel like I feel I see all the windows opening and I'm just ready to climb through. I don't believe him,

don't believe them. Okay, Fancy, He's the best. Thank you for having me, Thanks for coming, Thanks for all the dogs participating. Okay Bay, thank you all so much for tuning into hyper Caroline Hobby. I hope that you loved hearing from who is Fancy? He is so amazing and inspirational and I cannot wait to keep following his career and seeing what kind of crazy shenanigans he gets into, because lord knows they're going to be fantastic and fabulous.

Next week, I have a thousand horses with me, which I'm so stoked about because I love these guys. I'm married to the lead singer and they're just badass dudes. They had an awesome year last year. Their song Smoke came out, I went to number one, They toured Darius Rucker, they just just got announced there, nominated for an a c M New Group of the Year, and they're just bad at ass dude, so you won't want to miss it. Tune in next Wednesday to Hypercurelin Hobby, and please subscribe.

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