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Emily West

May 31, 201744 minEp. 62
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Emily West! This girl is a STAR! She has had an amazing journey. Moved to Nashville, got a record deal on Capitol Records (I interned at Capitol when she was signed there, and have been a huge fan of her for years!), sang a DUET w Keith Urban ("Blue Sky"- talk about powerful song and performance!), then moved to NYC on a whim- she went for a weekend trip then didn't come back for a year or so, entered "America's Got Talent," and got 2nd Place (what!), basically 1st place as far as singing, bc a magician beat her... So in my mind, she won for sure. Emily's voice is other worldly. She is in a league of her own. One of the best voices of our generation.... She belongs in the company of Barbara Streisand, Cher, Bette Midler and Judy Garland. #podcast #nashville #hypercarolinehobby #emilywest #carolinehobby

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Carola. She's the queen of talking. He was sown. She's only in side. She got the snoop on the on the ones to side. No one can do with clid My Carola Carola. No one can do with Clie Carol Carola. Hey, y'all, welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby. I know music, I know people, and I know the questions do you want to ask? So let's get hyper heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, so there could be adult content, y'all. I'm pumped up. Emily West

is joining me. I have admired her forever. She is one of the best voices I've ever heard in my entire life. And I am not even joking. I'm not making that up and I'm not exaggerating. Once you hear her open her mouth and seeing you will just die. You'll fall in love. She's so magical and incredible and she can do so much with her voice her personality. She's a character. She's like Barbara streisand meets Bette Midler meets Share. She needs her own TV show. She got

second on America's Got Talent. She should have gone first, but I mean she got first basically in the voice category because she lost a magician, so pretty much she has the best voice in all of America. And you will hear that. I'm so excited to welcome Emily West. And if you want to watch this, go to my website Caroline Hobby dot com and click watch and you can watch the whole episode. So here is Emily West. I'm so excited to have you here. I'm super pumped

to be in a studio. This is this is news to me, how incredible this is. I thought we were walking into an apartment, very happy. I'm happy to be here. Oh, because you thought I was inviting you to my apartment. I thought we were just going to be chilling, looking at you know, a voice m O on an iPhone, just talking. That's what. So the thing is in life, always shoot low and then you end up in a studio totally. They say, is that your expectations are zero

right all the time. Yeah, but speak positively. I'm learning to do that. Tell me your philosophy on life, Well, I don't know. I'm in therapy right now. I love therapy, wonderful therapy. My philosophy on life is the reason why I am in therapy, So I don't know what that means now. My philosophy on life is I just I don't know. Um, just speak truth right now is what I'm trying to do. Speak truth. What do you feel

like your truth is? Right now? My truth is um, Like, don't comment on an Instagram that you're really not genuinely happy about. I mean, I think those little things get to everything, like because then you just if you're blurred on one thing, then you're going to do that in your your life. This is getting really deep. No, so you're saying you want to be authentic and everything you do. So if you don't like social media is such a

huge part of our world. It is, and we live in such a polite, everything is great world and then you start going, but is it really all great? Is it all great? And I think there, you know the movie inside out, I just think that there's I'm a big sad ballad writer and I love sadness, but I don't want it to enter in my life. And I think, I don't know, I really don't have any philosophy on life. I just think you need to speak truth and keep a journal and keep a lock on it so people

don't find it journal about um. You know, it changes. Sometimes I'm this, um, Sometimes I just test out my handwriting, you know, just to see how that's going. How is it going. It's going really well, I like, I like it. And then sometimes I just pretend like I'm Nora f f Ron and you know, pretend that I'm a New Yorker. Um, I thought you are totally like a New York movie star, like Judy Garland and Nelly with some share little bit share. Yeah.

I mean, just so many of those epic entertainers who are not just actress, who are not just singers or actresses, but they were the whole thing. I don't know how to describe what they are. That that middler, Barbara streithan vaudeville, and you know the thing with vaudeville and country music is that they basically tell the truth. I mean they just you know, hello a little bit, you know. And Dolly Parton is Vauville. She's just a truth teller with

sparkles and tatas. Yeah, has and you know, I just think that's what vaudeville is. It's just a little bit more um hello and um. Anyway, how did you learn how to do all those voices. Oh, you know, I think from boredom and me just maybe being shy. I started off really shy as a little girl, and I did a lot of watching people. I remember I couldn't

wait to be forty six. When I was five in frend of a character that was like hello me, and she did a talk show and she was, hello, well, right now we're with s. Share came on the show. It's on my instagutent shared how to share? It was she upset. Well, that was my best friend Mackenzy, and she was like she hardly had any she was just share. She hardly spoke. She was a diva. But Joanie cuts up Lists had big boobs and she was Greek and she was hello, you know. But I couldn't wait to

be old when I was young. You I saw you post a picture and you're like in all these like jackets and pearls and pearl areas. You're like when I was five, I was going on fifty six. Yeah, because in Wait, I couldn't watch fifty because they just they knew what they wanted, and I don't know, I just I got to hide in myself and that little shy in it in my shy girl nous. And then I just think I did a lot of observing with people.

And then I watched Oprah one day and there was a girl on their doing an impersonation of a baby's crying of a baby crying, So then I started doing that. I'm like, man, I could be famous at that. She got famous from crying like a baby and then doing a chicken noise, which I couldn't do. But then also with Patsy Klein, I was in a pageant because my sister was in a pageant and I was super jealous

of my sister, and I was eight years old. We were in Muscotine, Iowa, at the holiday inn and my mom said, what are you gonna do for your talent? And I said, I'm gonna sing Patsy Cline. She had no idea that I could sing um, but I just basically imitated Patsy Klein for like five years and then exactly how she sang yeah, and I just started imitating voices.

So and I still imitate voices, but now I'm kind of trying to figure out who I am, which is why I'm in therapy, which is the best place to be trying to figure out where to go right, you know, or just make it a gift that maybe you just you're unboxable and your your genre lists and make that your gift actually are genre lists. I think you need a TV show. But speaking of genres, let's talk about

the beginning. Because you started your whole career in country music, which to me you are you are country, but you are so much more than country too. So how did you pick country music as the genre. Well, that's a great question, and I remember I just loved Faith Hill, you know, when that first record came out, Done Broadway

and all that too. I've never seen one Broadway. I've only seen one Broadway in my life, and I've only watched three music musicals, We Girls, Sounded Music, and Mary Poppins. But um, I just uh, I think country music at the time, it was just I loved it. It was nineties country, and I just loved good music. And then I moved here and then I started Then they started thinking about tractors and jeans and and I was trying to morph into that. But then I was like that

was going against your soul. Yeah, because you came out rocks in two tho I love that video. It was very positive. Stephen Schefferd directed that video and it was I did wear spanks where it kind of cut me off. So there was a lot of money on us trying to stop the spank line. But um all, my all my girlfriends came out to Vancouver to shoot that video and they're like, oh, I love that you did. That Was that in Franklin? No, that was in Vancouver. We

wasted a hundred thousand dollars in Vancouver. We should have gone to Franklin. But it looks great. Thank you. How did you pick Vancouver? I don't know. We just record business had money at the time and they chose that right. That's when they were dropping it like it was hot.

They were dropping it like it was so when you came out in two thousand eight, rocks in my shoes, rocks in your shoes, ross in everyone shoes, rocks in my rocks in your shoes, which was essentially about feeling sorry for yourself and not walking around with rocks in your shoes, which is what I'm living now. Isn't that ironic? Explain that? Well, it's kind of funny, Like, you know, I guess you got to make a choice. When it hits the fan, you can get a little down or

get a little mad. Um. When there's stones in the road, there's only one thing to do. You gotta learn to walk with rocks in your shoes. Um, maybe that should be a Broadway Rocks in your shoes. Maybe you should write a Broadway musical inspired on your life. Yeah, it would be very good. Did you have disappointment when it And then you've really released Blue Sky with Keith Urban seing on it, and that song is one of the best songs I have personally ever heard in my entire life.

And to me, if I was you, I would have a little bit of frustration because you have more talent than most people have in their pinky finger, and you have this record label. At that time, you was Capital and you're putting out these songs, and it's like it didn't go to where I think it should have gone, which was number one and like broken you into country superstardom, like I feel like you should have been. And if I was you, I would be upset because you are

so talented. How do you deal with those feelings and things not working out as planned? Well, I think you know at the time I was just trying to keep my head above water, just trying to not be the girl that was mad at that time, which was a long time ago, and now I'm I'm looking back, and I am frustrated because it was I mean, I didn't have a college education. I moved to you know, graduated high school. I had no idea how to pay bills, and then I got this record label and so that's

all I knew was being on the label. So I didn't have enough courage to walk away, and then they didn't have enough courage to let me go because I was pretty great, let's be real, you know. But and you know, and just on my side, I was a lot of people. So I would go in and I would write with these writers that were all very different, three times a day writing a song and three times yeah,

like I was, I was no, no, I was. I was told I had attention deficit disorder, and I got on this pill that just made me crazy that wanted to write all the time, and every idea was great. But then you look back and you're like, oh my gosh, this song is awful. But I was just kind of burnt out. But I loved everything that I brought in because I wanted them to. So I worked a lot with Hype, and basically it was I just was so many people and they didn't know what to do with me.

So it was just it was really hard and on their and they did the best that they could with what was given to them, with all that I was giving. So what did you give them? What kind of I gave them a really great record with outside songs that saw I wrote and some I didn't, and um, you know, I got a lot of incredible things out of it.

Keith Urban sang with me on Blue Sky. Yeah. Like actually, there was a big label head that said I don't think that you should call Keith Urban because I was like, that's when people were they were associating celebrities with trying to get famous, and I was like, well, he's not

only a celebrity, he's amazing. I'm just gonna My mom gave me this plaque that said trust your crazy ideas, which can be dangerous sometimes but also worth it, worth it, And so I emailed him and he heard the song and ten minutes later he goes, I would be honored to sing with you on this exquisite song with those are the words that he used, which just credits him just for being amazing and an artist that he is. And he he's um, he does what he wants and

he believes in what is truth. And I really still believe in that song. But and it was nominated for UM Vocal Event of the Year as we lost to James Taylor and Zach Brown, which I can I can say it's fine, but I'm saying that song. I would sing it for all of you guys, but you should can Uh what what? What part says? It's going tonight the kind of stone where the basement floods and you lose the lines. Should have thought of that before, sannad you boost guy anymore? Not the going with some sad

girl to the singer that's so hard. You did a great transition. I have borderline personality disorder in the best of ways. I love that about you. I think that's what makes you great because you have all these personalities, but they're all you stop. What if I just came out with should I look at the camera? You can look at where you want? Okay, perfect whatever. Any personality can talk to anybody that she wants. Any personality can talk to any camera that it wants We're all here

for you. Okay, But honestly, that song is one of the best songs I have ever heard. It's so their motion is so real, your voice is so incredible. Thank you. That was a special song. That really was. I mean, we talked about truth and stuff. And sometimes I find myself trying to be clever in my songwriting or just trying to be Will cotton Man was at my door. I'm like, what does that mean? Like you can say anything. By the way, the cotton man was at my door,

I just made up. I don't know. There's some things that I look and I go, this is so, this does not make any sense. Am I trying to be one of these indie people? I just but that song was like that was a truth. I'm proud of it. So it felt real. Who in your core when you think you said, you're in therapy trying to figure it all out right now, but when you think about and you posted a picture too, and actually I wrote the quote down because I thought it was so good. You said,

keep your legs closing your heart open. Well, you said whenever, I have too many voices telling me who I am, which is a lot. I look this little nugget, she knows who she is. So who is that little nugget? Who is Emily West in your opinion? Um, well, Emily Members is that girl Emily West was um is the performer and Emily Members is usually the girl that you should pay attention to, which everyone talks about like just go to what the little girl wants. What you have

to say, um be true. Like if you don't like something, speak up. And I think in this polite world that we live in, we're chose to just, you know, pick your battles, which is good to pick your battles, but I think that you know, essentially you just need to say, hey, please stop doing that's getting on my nerves. That that helps with so many things, like I'm not going to do that song because I don't want little girls to hear the F word or you know, it just bleeds

into every part of you. So I just think when you're little, you follow your heart before someone tells you to stop doing them. And so trust your crazy ideas and and just be authentic, which that word is so thrown out, and vulnerability is thrown out, and being healthy is thrown out. Those words get on my nerves. But basically, do what you want to do and be around good people that bring out the best in you. And um, recodependent no more. Yeah, that's a great book. It's a

great book. Who if you had to pick one genre to belong to or one style of music to sing forever? Would you where would you settle into? The business part of me? Says country music? Um? What is that? What does Emily Numbers A little girl say? Well, you know, music is genre and that's another word I don't like. I just prefer to stay out of genre. I say that just cut beautiful music. I think that's what Chris

Stapleton does. I think that he has been given this monstrous, incredible voice that could have been told to could you please stop using all of that? And it probably it was told and I was told to stop using so much barbratto. So therefore I became the singer that doesn't sing, just the sexy talker and songs. And it because sonically, when you sing in a studio and then when you sing out loud to a crowd, you have to use different voices. So therefore it can do a number on

your mind of what to do. But I mean my genre is like, I don't know, it's out of the box, and it's essentially I kind of want to cut a country music record one day, like a really beautiful, authentic country record that is just saying truth. But right now it's being Barbara Streisan and Judy Garland and a torch singer bringing the torch singer back. And the record that we're releasing now is let's talk about those songs. Okay.

So I made this record with Daniel Tashen and he got out of big white board and was like, tell me what you want everyone to feel when you listen to that. I said, I want people to have sex to it. I want people to drive their car to it, throw dinner parties to it, drink wine and being be alone to it because it's very It's a melancholy kind of cinematic Disney dark Disney. Disney's a dark Disney and

I love Disney music Sleeping beauty. Like I still have this this weird fairy tale Great Gardens situation in my mind that I'm trying to hunker down with. But it's just my fan It's like a fantasy record I've always wanted to make um, and I think We're just not going to overthink it. It's just a pretty record. I like to listen to it still. Yeah, tell me about the songs. What do they mean to you? Because one of them, don't go to Paris, Loane, don't never go

to Paris when you're lonely. Perfect? I mean that what a perfect saying I sent it. It's a It's a sentence that my friend Rosie go go along and says a lot to her friends because she goes to Paris a lot, and I wrote it with her and Daniel, and she just says, don't never go to pay when you're lonely, because it's the most beautiful city on the planet and you will feel like s h shit shit if you go. And I'm like, I actually really love

to feel melancholy. Yeah, I do. I actually really enjoy being alone and drinking wine and just kind of feeling sorry for myself. What do you love about that feeling? That? Is that what brings the great music for you? Yeah? I mean, I just think there's something really beautiful about a girl reading a book and and drinking a glass of pink wine and judging lovers and being mad about it, but also hopeful because maybe one day I'll find that person and and I just I kind of love that

I thrive on that. But it's also it's at the end of the verse. I struggled with this because it says a lot of puns that say, jump off the Eiffele, give give the tourists an Eiffel. So it's dark Disney. It's this beautiful, dark Disney kind of story, and you know, it's drama like drama and when you okay, you also after the country thing, I want to wrap up the country section for a second though. Were you ever upset with how it played out for you? Absolutely? What? How

do you deal with those feelings? Like what does it make you feel when you see these people who literally don't have the talent that you have at all? And I know you're not in an ageist school way. You just have this talent. It's just who you are. Well, I mean, I think that every the thing that I don't have, the gift that I don't have is um back then. I have it now is applying yourself and trusting the process and trusting your your team. And I

was really scared at that time. So I just I just I overperformed in all the wrong places, and I really didn't trust myself. So therefore I did a lot of self sabotaging in in a in a way where I just overdid it with you know, trying to be a girl that told inappropriate jokes at radio conventions and you know, just hollow. You know, it's just like you just stop for a second and just you know, and

I think that inner piece has come back. But I also feel like I'm just super hard on myself and I'm I'm a perfectionist, and I think that's gone away too with some help and time. But I dealt with it really passive aggressively. When it was dropped. I was on my way to the opera when I got dropped, and the record label pros the and the guy called me and he goes, we're going to have to let you go. And I go, well, let me ask you a question. How much money do you think you spend

on me? I said, is it over a million? You think? He goes, oh absolutely, I go, so you're saying I'm worth over a million dollars and anything to get me out of the set. That's kind of passive aggressive about it, But you know, like that's how how I processed it, and you know, we're all here for a reason, and you know God's working everywhere, so I know, but it's that's the part. And I believe that everything, like you said, happens for a reason to get you to the experiences

that you need to experience. So then finally one day it all makes perfect sense. But it's to me. I get disappointed when I feel like beautiful works of art and really talented people aren't. I have you said to set your expectations at zero, but I accidentally get expectations for art that I love and I wanted to go to a place in my mind that I think it deserves to go, and when it doesn't, it's if I

find it frustrating. Well, and I'm not really good with the business aspect of that, like and that's where you know I should. I'm really good. Especially in the world of social media, we're really going there, by the way, like I think everyone is trying to be famous. I did a show recently at Third and Lends Late, and I was just a lot of my songs are valid, and we're giving it the space that it deserves instead of just be like look at me, I'm good. Look

I'm good. It's like there's some space in it and we're respecting that. Ace and a lot of people in the audience were just, you know, taking selfie. We live in a selfie. It wasn't my crowd, but it was kind of Oh man, everyone wants to be famous, so it's hard to, um, really be an artist and just go, okay, well this is what's happening. Um does that make any sense? Well, it's just that people are almost disconnected from experiencing things

because they're all doing it to the lens of the phone. Yeah, Like, if you experience anything great, you're like, I gotta get my phone out. You can you can't just trust the moment. And I'm learning to do that just because that's a memory I'm going to hold in my heart forever. Like you're not going to look at your instrument going but this is the time where I lost my mind because I'm not because I was too busy getting a filter

on it. I didn't feel the beautiful moment. I hear you, you know, and that It's totally where we are these days. So we're all just trying to figure out where the world is going right now. And I'm super hard on it um the world. Oh, I think anything that you were ship breaks your heart. UM. That is not that doesn't have UM, it doesn't have any boundaries to it. I think you can make some something your slave and if it if it does, it's not out of your ego gets in the way. Yeah, it breaks your heart

if you're not healthy. You posted something to where you said you love um new chapters and change and like you like it when you see a tree that's been clipped because it lets you know that new growth is coming. What explained that thought to me? That's called pruning. Um. It's hard to change as a human, and it's hard to look at your past and go where am I in this? What have I done to make this situation shitty? And what can I change to make it not shitty anymore?

And that's what I'm asking myself now. And it's called pruning. And I anytime I pass a tree that's been cut, it's super ugly and it's just this blunt looks like this, and I'm like, you know, I don't want to cut my hair because I want my hair to be super long. I'm going to have to get it cut, though, but it just it's going to get prettier if you do.

And the tree just kind of looks like that, and then all of a sudden, these little things start growing and then all the rest start becoming beautiful and it's changed. And it's really hard to to to do that if you're getting off a habit that you used to you know, I used to help you, or coping coping mechanisms are finding new ones that I have I don't even know I was doing. Yeah, and it's hard to retrain and wire your brain. It's really hard, and and just have

patience and kindness with yourself in that process. So that's why I post that. And then what a beautiful question. Thank you I forgot that I did that. Yeah, Well, I just thought that was great because I'm all about evolving all the time, especially and I told you earlier before we started this interview, people who have talent like you have, who have been through the Ringer yet still are fighting for that talent because it is your work on this earth, like this is your calling, is your

this is why you're here. And I thought it was awesome when you finally got a little bit of the world recognition that you need going on America's got talent. I mean, I want you to live on a show like that. For me, I feel like you need your own TV show where you just live and you sing these songs. Tell me about that? Was that one of the greatest moments, where like, finally I'm getting the stage

that I because you need to be on a stage. Well, I mean, honestly, I think that God prepped me for that whole moment, because honestly, I was not in a and I hate the word healthy, but I wasn't in a good state of mind when that was going on. What where? What was your state of mind? It was? Well, when I went went to New York, I just had to get away from my family. You moved away away from I had to get away from Nashville. And I packed up. I never went back. I got it. I

just went on a trip to New York. I went on a trip. I got an opportunity to sing for the Beatles fifty anniversary at the Apollo Theater and um Harlem and and I just packed a bigger bag than I should have packed. And I never went back. I got a job the next day, and I just started working at a boutique called Goldie Mac and They hated me there because I don't know how to work. I can't do anything because you're a singer. I just like, I might have to get a job here soon. But

I'm like, I am, I'm awful. Don't hire me, like, don't um. But yeah, so I just tried to survive. I sold my car. My parents were like, what are you doing? And they were worried about me. I am pretty surprised that I didn't get mugged or killed, honestly, because I was like, when you're alone and life is making you lonely, you can always feel like I'm the girl that you're hat in the air, Hello New York. Did you feel alive? There was a freedom moment. Yeah.

My friend Alice was like, in order to be a New Yorker, you must act like a New Yorker otherwise you will get attacked. So did Yeah, and I was just like, oh my god, I could do this. And I pretended to be a New Yorker. Um, you're almost like living in a movie. Huh. Yes, but there's no camera not yet, um yeah, not yet. I live my I live all my life like the cameras around me. But that's the sad thing. Um, you're prepping. Yeah, so you get to New York? Did you audition for America's

Got Talent? How did that happen? I went to New York essentially to just get away from everyone, to figure it to be Bette Midler and be in a movie that no cameras were watching. And then I was so I was desperate, and I posted this really weird Facebook post and so many beautiful people I think I reached out. Yeah, like I had like so many comments going Emily, oh my gosh. And through that Facebook post, um, all these beautiful angels connected me to lead to Nay, who was

doing A and R for America's Got Talent. And I didn't like reality shows. I thought they could edit you to make you look like an idiot. I already had a record label that dropped me. I was in my thirties. I was like, they're gonna make me look like a complete loser. I'll do it, So I'll do it. I don't trust so I just trusted it. I trusted it, and I was desperate and I needed an opportunity, and

I was like okay. So then I moved back and I moved back in with my parents, and then they kept flying me back, and they taped every vulnerable thing that they could, and I was some of the ones. They caught me living with my parents, and me putting on red lipstick in my mom's bathroom, and me driving my dad's car, and me asking the guy at the gas station can I borrowed twenty dollars because I had no money? And it was like in a really like weird time in my life. But that's what the dreamer does.

That is what the dreamer does. What the dreamer does never gives up on the dream. So you get on the show and you're singing songs like chandelier is broke. By the way, I was completely broke singing. I looked rich. But you had this one dress that was as big as a room. You can have it, like, probably a whole village of people could have lived under that dress. It was in other ways. I'm just kidding. You know me, Your dreams freaking love you. So you're standing and you're

standing on this huge stage. Howard sterns your boyfriend at this point because he loves you, right, yeah he does, And y'all have a connection. What is that connection? Well, it just he he liked me a lot. Would you date Howard's turn because he's married and um, But yeah, I enjoyed the validation because that's an addiction of mine is praise. And I love you because you're praising me a lot right now. But you but it's because your talent. It's I don't even think it's you needing an addiction

of praise. I think it's just that you have this talent that needs to be heard and like needs to be recognized because it's so good. That's how I feel it is. It's like, not even you, it's like this gift from God that you have been given. Which do

you believe in callings? I actually really do. I think I've just learned this like it is a responsibility when you have been given it a gift like and people that have helped you with your gift and the you know, people you asking me to be here like is a gift, and you know, I feel like it's a gift that you're here, Daniel cash In wanting to make a record on me and lead an Ay and Darryl Brown and

reaching all the it's all aligned. And I do believe that God isn't some like whispering you know that not East Nashville bearded white Man. That's you know, cartooned up in the sky. It's people, you know, and uh, you are when you're given a gift and you're given the people and the stars aligned, you should have you should

follow that and there's an incredible responsibility. But if you put your ego to it, that's when things get bad and it and um, that's when you start overthinking and getting in your head and it becomes too much yours, where you get controlled and it's just not good. But if you're just remaining grateful and appreciative, I really do feel like you have the best time. It's hard to do that. It's hard to learn sometimes, right it is. And also like just fight for what you want, you know,

that's it's just about communicating and saying the truth. Like the little nut, the Emily Number's nut. I love it. Yeah, did America's got talent validate you? Did it give you a sense of validation and also put you in a light where you can sing what you want to sing? Yeah, and it, um, it changed my view of like, Okay, you can do whatever you want. You know, you can take a song and make it yours. You make a cover song yours. They did want me to do it.

Justin Beaver song, Biver Beaver, justin Weiever, that's my new name, um the female justin Bieber. Um. I didn't connect with it, So therefore you say no because no were you confident? And I said no? And then what you do? Said? Um, I I didn't actually like the Chandelier song when I first listened to it. Can you believe that that? Well? I mean, I I had a problem with the counting and the pop genre. I was just really I was a negative but I was in a negative place. But

I got my niece in the car. I'm like, I hate pop counting song. Why didn't Nodre? Why didn't Toldrey? But then I broke down the lyric and I'm like, this is actually my life and see it. Wow? And you beautiful killed that song every performance you did. I mean I watched the whole season. I was like, holy cow, this is where you belong on a stage full of tons of people in beautiful ballgrown singing those songs. Yeah, that was fun. It really was fun. It was so fun.

And I feel like, is that kind of what your new EP is like? Those songs is dramatic? Songs. Yeah it is, but then it's also um oh, like everything I love about music in kind of a cinematic sense, it doesn't I'm not really singing with that Hamburger voice that I call it Hamburger voice because there's a tendency when you hit those rich hive notes you can go a little to vaudeville. This is me just kind of saying things in a beautiful way with beautiful orchestra backing me,

a k A keyboard. Let's um here, let's hear your first single off the new album. I would love to talk to me a little about this song. Let's play a little bit symphonies. Um wrote this with Daniel Passion and Rosie go On and we just I'm a sucker for great melodies telling me horrible things and truth. And the video I just spit in the video is super sad and beautiful and funny. What's the video about? Um,

it's my life. It's me waking up and then me pouring coffee, and then me taking a bath and then me working on my You should I hope we do? My arialis says Helloa in the video. If you look close and then I go out like Alice in wonderland, and then I shut my door, and then the chorus happens in the night, the lights go down, and I escape into this fantasy of how I think things are, and how what's the fantasy fantasy looks where I'm just

gorgeous in my robe singing. But then it's then it goes back to being reality again, and then the other verse happens, and it's just life. It's a it's a life. I'm sorry for your show to exist all the time. Just you well, come on and Mike are and we'll do some selfist and follow me on Instagram. I think it's an entertainment. Okay, So here we go, symphonies, Let's have a little listen. Teal Audio's newest speaker line, the Aurora live stream speakers are designed to fit seamlessly into

your home with its wide range of connectivity. To check out the latest speaker line, go to teal audio dot com. I've been dragon my feet, I've been drinking crushing chition from kidding enough. I've been around. Like Kiddle said, maybe I lead my shud down, but some good sodish. When did you say maybe? She I'm not so what ah Emily is that gonna air where we're just listening to it. Oh wow, that felt like a and our time. Yeah right, just know how to really sit there and listen, just

listen to it. But that is a great song. Thank you. That's your sweet spot. Yeah, it's just I mean, it's a sweet little it's a sweet little song. It's more than a sweet little song. It's a Barbera Streisand song. One day you're going to do it with her, but you already do it it with Cyndey Lauper. I did. Oh my gosh, she's like your girl, right, she is

a real truth teller. She said, Um okay. So I went to a Cyndy Lauper concert when she was in Nashville, And it was before I moved to New York, and I was really making some some choices be our friends. Right before we were friends. No, I was on Celebrity Apprentice. Remember when are the President of the United States went off on my skin? What did he say on your skin? Oh? My goodness. He just was like, she needs to we need to do some abbrushing on her. I'm like, I

like that. I had cysteric acne when I was young. I grew my personality was it? What was he like? I didn't meet him, but I called his son Jr. The whole time, and um, anyways, that's where we became friends. And she said, um in anyway, So I went to her concert and she was like, I said, Cindy in the middle of making some tough choices right now, and I need you to give me some advice. I don't know why I said that to her, but I felt brave enough to say, she goes, kid, you don't need

you don't need to get scared. All you gotta do is take some spirit dancing classes. Don't be afraid moving on what the spirit dancing? Just just take some spirited you'll and you'll you'll be free enough to just get out of your head. Like that's what she was saying. She's saying, get out of your head and left the talent. Let's just do. You're saying don't worry about just sing and don't worry about it, which I thought was great advice. Did you apply? I wish that that that was in proverbs.

Just take some spirit dancing classes. Thou shalt take spirit truly, get out of your own way, get out of your own head, you know, make music and let it go where it's supposed to. That's pretty amazing. Okay, so you're gonna give us a little bit of some Emily West. Whatever comes out acapella, it can be some of your alter egos. We need a little stand up Emily West. But before we do that, can you leave some light.

I like to end my interviews like, leave some light, leave some inspiration of how you've been inspired or how you want to inspire other people. Um, how dold, this is so good. Let's read my journal interce with my good handwriting. Um, how to be Um. You know, Daniel Fashion really was um such a light in making this this record, and he just, um, I think in the we can all have as as artists. We all have

a tendency to just be over proud and perfectionists. And he just he didn't overthink it, like he just he let me fly and and he just said sing and then he took the vocal. I didn't have to sing it over and over and it was just freeing. He took the real vocal because sometimes in the first take. He took the all those our first takes, and you know that. I think there's some power in just trusting the first take, and and that just trust yourself and

stop and get take some spirit dancing classes. I think that's light enough. I love that. I love that. Yeah, okay, can you take Can you maybe have some spirit dancing exhibits coming out of you now? Like? I don't, honestly I know it is my answer. I don't really feel it right now. I don't. I'm not, I'm shy. I don't know. I feel like I've said enough. Okay, fine, I'll do it. Don't you love how I said no and then I change? I did? I like because you know and if you want to say no, you can

say no. Girl. Um, well, part of me really does. But the personality disordering me is coming out. So okay, well let's take it to the stage and then see what happens. Okay, sounds good. Okay, so I'm super pumped me too, because now you're just going to give us the gift of Emily West. Whatever you want to sing say at all the stage is yours. Okay, Okay, okay, right,

I'm on the Caroline Show. I don't know what I'm singing, but I'm gonna try my best to show you that I'm talented because of all the things that we talked about sitting there on the blue couch on the Caroline Show. Thank you so much. Okay, from my first number, I will sing you a song that is very depressing. Sometimes he does it, he don't even know. That's when he catches me off guard. He pulls his jacket on and he says, we've gotta go. I fall and fall and

fallen hard, comes home with sunburns on his shoulders. I love the way he most the art. What will he be like when he's older? Who? I fall and fall and fallen? A he brings me, violates and fidens. He started from someone else's yarn. He smiles at me, and you know it kind of cute. He is always breaking my heart. I'm in a kitchen, lonely, clean and up the place. He's a drinking and in a bar. Oh, my friends asked me, I got these bruises on my face. I say it's from fall, fallen fallen hard? Who from

fall and fall and fall and hard? From full, full and full and hard? Wow? How about Emily West? You are freaking a talent show. Thank you. We're the greatest talents ever. Thank you for joining me. Thank you for having car I know you love that interview with Emily West because she is so talented. She's a new EP coming out and a new single, Symphonies. It's so good. Her voice is classic. She's just in a league of her own. Next week, I have Luke Luton joining me.

He's one of the best producers in Nashville. He's produced Brad Paisley. He just released his new album. He talks all about this album and there are some crazy, crazy duets that are happening on this album, some crazy songs that happened that were formed, one having to do with Johnny Cash telling you it is so interesting. Luke is so talented. He's had such a life and worked with so many incredible people. You will not want to miss all the inside scoop on what it's like to be

one of the hottest producers in town. So y'all join me next week with Luke Luton, and make sure you go to my website Caroline Hobby dot com and click watch. If you want to see these videos and actually not just listen, but see them, you can see them on my YouTube page. So we'll see you next week.

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