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Gertie's Law

Supreme Court of Victoriawww.supremecourt.vic.gov.au

Drama has unfolded in these courtrooms for more than 130 years, from serial murderers and gangland wars to multimillion-dollar commercial disputes and celebrity defamation cases. Follow Greg Muller and Evan Martin as they take a step behind the bench of one of Australia’s oldest institutions and hear from judges as they explain why they make the decisions they do. Gertie's Law takes a deep dive into some of the lesser-known, misunderstood or complex parts of the court’s work, such as sentencing, mental health, juries and the criminal trial process. Revisit historic cases, meet the many people who work here, from judges to Corrections staff, and take a close look at how a modern justice system operates in a 19th century building. Authorised by the Supreme Court of Victoria, 210 William St, Melbourne

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Episodes

The Story Behind Gertie's Law

"What is a podcast?" Gertie's Law executive producer Sarah Dolan talks to StoryCraft host Ben Hart about how the Supreme Court of Victoria embraced new media to educate and inform in an entertaining way. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 24, 202129 min

Episode 9: Closing Statement: Judge and Lawyer Q&A

We've received your questions and in this final episode of Gertie’s Law, they get answered. What influences lawyers to challenge a juror during empanelment? Does a murder involving family violence attract a larger sentence? When does criticism become defamation? And are there more right wing terrorist cases coming to the court? Hear the answers to these questions and more in the final episode of Gertie’s Law. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

Jun 28, 202139 minSeason 2Ep. 9

Episode 8: Terrorism - Part 2

Last episode we looked at completed terrorist acts, and why they attract such large sentences, however cases involving completed terrorist acts are rare, indeed the first one in Victoria was in 2019. Most terrorism cases which come before the Supreme Court occur before an act of terrorism has taken place. They’re preparatory offenses, that is, preparing to commit a terrorist act or conspiring to prepare for a terrorist act. In this episode we look at the difficult problem of how far back is the ...

Jun 14, 20211 hrSeason 2Ep. 8

Episode 7: Terrorism - Part 1

Terrorism cases are among the most high-profile offences to come to the Supreme Court. The trials are complicated and usually long, as are the resulting sentences. The cases attract a lot of public interest. On the day of a sentence, the public galleries and press seats will be full, and TV cameras, lights and journos will be set up outside the Court to film what they can. Only a few terrorism trials have been heard in Australia, and in this episode we look closely at two of them. This episode o...

Jun 07, 202150 minSeason 2Ep. 7

Episode 6: Court Dogs, Lucy & Coop

Courtrooms can be stressful places, especially if you’re giving evidence. Two of the court’s recent employees, Lucy and Coop are helping to take the stress out of being in court. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 31, 202121 minSeason 2Ep. 6

Episode 5: Barry

Most Victorians have heard of Sir Redmond Barry, not least because there’s so many things named after him in Melbourne. And notoriously, he’s the judge who sentenced Ned Kelly to the gallows. But his impact on Melbourne extends far beyond the Kelly story. From defending Aboriginal resistance fighters to getting into a duel, Barry is undoubtedly one of the courts, and indeed the city's, most influential and fascinating figures. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

May 24, 202144 minSeason 2Ep. 5

Episode 4: Defamation

Defamation. Often salacious or scandalous, especially when it involves Hollywood Stars or high profile federal politicians. It’s about defending one’s honour - and earning capacity. It’s an area of law where a person’s right to protect their reputation rubs up against someone else’s freedom of expression. Defamation cases are the juridical stage on which these incredible battles of fundamental rights and freedoms play out. There’s a lot to consider before launching defamation action, not least w...

May 17, 202155 minSeason 2Ep. 4

Episode 3: Manslaughter

It’s time to talk about manslaughter - one of the most controversial and misunderstood offences that comes before the court, due to its high range of culpability and sometimes fine line between it and murder. From a legal point of view it’s a very clear line between murder and manslaughter. The problem is that factually it’s not always easy to look at a case and say which of the categories it falls into. Links to sentences mentioned in this episode. The Queen v O’Connor (2018) The Queen v Morela...

May 10, 202148 minSeason 2Ep. 3

Episode 2: The Bar Table

Welcome to season two of Gertie's Law. In season one we heard from almost everyone at the Supreme Court - the judges, associates, reporters, tipstaves and even the prison officers. But now it’s time to meet the people who do the lion’s share of the talking in the courtroom, the people sitting at the bar table - the lawyers. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 03, 202159 minSeason 2Ep. 2

Episode 1: Court in a Pandemic

When COVID-19 hit Victoria, schools, pubs and restaurants closed. The AFL season stopped after only one round. But the courts couldn’t shut down because crime didn’t stop. People were in custody awaiting trial. Family violence continued unabated, disputes needed settling, appeals needed to be heard, and trials needed to continue to provide justice for both accused and victims. As an essential service, the courts had to move quickly. This episode of Gertie's Law looks at how the Supreme Court of ...

Dec 10, 202056 minSeason 2Ep. 1

Episode 14: Judge, You've Got More Mail

Where does criminality originate? What makes a great barrister? Do funny things happen in court? Would a judge know how to get away with murder? In the final episode of the season, we get the answers to your questions. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 11, 201946 minSeason 1Ep. 14

Episode 13: Reporting the Court - Part 2

There's a view that judges and journalists don't always see eye to eye. In a bonus episode of Gertie's Law we assembled four Supreme Court judges and four court reporters - put them in a room together, and recorded it. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 30, 201951 minSeason 1Ep. 13

Episode 12: Reporting the Court - Part 1

Despite most Victorians never having direct interaction with the Supreme Court, most still have an opinion about it, and those opinions are predominantly formed by the media. It's a fundamental principle of our legal system that justice is done in open court. Journalists therefore serve as the guardians of an open justice system. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 25, 201941 minSeason 1Ep. 12

Episode 11: The Judges

A Supreme Court judge is one of the most senior positions in the law and also one of the most criticised. Find out what it's like to be a judge at the Supreme Court; how they're appointed, confronting personal bias, and staying mentally healthy while dealing with constant violence and death. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 12, 201954 minSeason 1Ep. 11

Episode 10: The Iceberg

When you think of the Supreme Court, it’s natural for your mind to go straight to murders and terrorism. This episode is about the areas of this court which rarely, if ever, appear on the TV news. From fighting over wills and the Master of Lunacy to corporate battles and urgent medical disputes. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jul 29, 201936 minSeason 1Ep. 10

Episode 9: How This Court Changed Abortion Laws in Victoria

Fifty years ago, the Menhennitt Ruling was an example of judge-made law and it determined the legality of abortion in Victoria. In this episode of Gertie's Law, we find out why it was left to the Supreme Court, and not the parliament, to decide on such a controversial social issue. Hear from judges and people directly affected by the 1969 ruling. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jul 14, 201945 minSeason 1Ep. 9

Episode 8: The Criminal Trial Process

From arrest to sentence (or acquittal), we take you through the entire process (Legal Aid, committal hearing, mentions, trial, verdict and appeal). If you're charged with a serious crime in Victoria, this is what you can expect. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jul 01, 201945 minSeason 1Ep. 8

Episode 7: Judge, You've Got Mail

We've received your questions. From capital punishment and gender in the law to speeding fines and staying awake in court, we put your questions to judges. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 17, 201941 minSeason 1Ep. 7

Episode 6: Twelve Ordinary Men and Women

Almost every day, randomly selected Victorians, often with no experience in or knowledge of the law, sit in court passing judgement on their fellow citizens. Learn how the jury system works and the challenges jurors face, such as staying off social media, leaving their sympathies at home and getting their heads around complex forensic evidence. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 03, 201946 minSeason 1Ep. 6

Episode 5: A Place of Reverence

At first glance, the trial division building of the Supreme Court is imposing. Narrow corridors, very high ceilings with grand chandeliers and ornate plasterwork. Nineteenth century stonework and cedar panelling. And then there’s the artwork - mostly portraits of stern looking men in big leather chairs looking down from under their wigs. The effect of the original building is to communicate the authority - even fear - of the law. But things have changed a lot in that last few decades, and as the...

May 20, 201939 minSeason 1Ep. 5

Episode 4: People of the Court

Hundreds of people work at the Supreme Court every day, and the majority aren't judges. Meet with a variety of people who call the court their workplace, from prison officers and 'tippies' to journalists and librarians. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 06, 201948 minSeason 1Ep. 4

Episode 3: The Most Difficult Things

It’s a sad fact that most of the people accused of serious criminal offences in the Supreme Court are either suffering from a mental illness, taking illicit drugs, or both. “It’s one of the most difficult things a sentencing judge will need to balance.” Hear from judges and find out how they deal with the more controversial aspects of sentencing: mental illness, drugs and parole. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

Apr 21, 201949 minSeason 1Ep. 3

Episode 2: Crime and Punishment

Sentencing. It's the most talked about and misunderstood aspect of the court's work. How does a judge go about deciding a length of time in jail? There’s a lot to consider and coming up with the final number is the end of a lengthy and complicated process. Some of the most experienced judges in the state explain how they come to the decisions they do. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 08, 201948 minSeason 1Ep. 2

Episode 1: The Court

Thousands pass it every day and it’s in the news most nights. Many criminals who’ve appeared here are household names. But how well do you really know this court? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 25, 201946 minSeason 1Ep. 1

Coming Soon: Gertie’s Law

Introducing Gertie’s Law, a podcast from the Supreme Court of Victoria. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 18, 20194 min
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