67: Frankenstein Created Woman (1967) – Hammer Horror – Dir. Terence Fisher – Peter Cushing, Susan Denberg & Thorley Walters

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Uh hi listener. Um it's John here just to say that this edition of the General Witch Finders podcast uh does discuss uh people taking their own lives. And i you know, if that's something you don't want to listen to, maybe Ross will put in a bit of an alarm bell just before we're gonna talk about that subject so you can skip that bit.

But uh just to let you know it's there. Okay. I will try and do something tasteful uh for the alarm bell on it. Not not like um Chris Akabusi saying a woogoo or something like that. Yeah, yeah, that's good. Or the sound of like a st stretching rope. Ha ha ha. So there we are, that's a good intro to the show, isn't it? How how we've all been n either arrested or nearly arrested. I had a police photographer take pictures of my body.

Britain. An ancient kingdom with legends of violence, cruelty, and torment in its blood. Join your hosts Ross, John, and James, as they bravely Ladies and gentlemen, goblins and goblins, welcome back to

67th episode of the General Witch Finders Podcast. I'm James in Bournemouth in Southern England. I'm John Pountney here in the south of Wales, which is still in the south of Wales, and I'm wondering tonight. Episode sixty seven. If this was the year sixty seven Um firstly this film came out in sixty seven, I think. Oh yes. Yes. Secondly, is this our Sgt. Pepper. Does that mean uh is any ways down or would you say

Or sideways. And I'm Ross in Dorchester in Southern England. This time we discovered that Frank is Frankenstein. The name stands for fear. Frankenstein. He shocks the world as he mocks the devil. Yeah. Creates monsters. to life. Frankenstein created woman. Who am I? Who am I? A shield of indestructible matter. What is it for? What is it for? To give life after death, my friend, that's what it's for. Life after death.

Peter Cushing as Baron Frankenstein who crosses swords with Satan in his fight for immortality. He lives. See, hence he's alive. Susan Denberg as Christine. The deformed creature transformed by Frankenstein to a living. Within her, a dead man. Kill him. Kill him, Christina. Fawley Walters, a doctor who helps Frankenstein to violate the laws of nature. Christina, my dear, that man possesses such power, such knowledge, such... Or sometimes I don't even understand him myself.

The boy Hans is the tool of the Frankenstein experiment. These boys are the cuss! Out! Out! Mr. Come back. He's come back from the grave. Somebody's brought him back. So, so far we have visited Herr Baron on two occasions. We discussed his first experiment to be depicted by Hammer Studios.

Way back in episode two in The Curse of Frankenstein. Jesus. Hashtag big Chris Lee Claxon. And we pour witness to Frankenstein and a monster from hell. The seventh and the last of the Oeuvre in episode forty five. Bright punk rock rebels that we are, we've thrown chronology to the wind, and we're jumping right into the middle of the series with Frankenstein Created Woman from, as John mentioned, nineteen sixty seven. Directed by Terence Fisher and starring Peter Cushing and Susan Dent.

The screenplay was written by Anthony Hines as John Elder. It's the fourth film in H Hammers Frankenstein series, as pointed out by Andrew Stone, one of our fantastic patrons, and go and sign yourself up at patreon.com forward slash general witchfinders. This is supposedly one of Martin Scorsese's favorite films. No way. I wonder where that came up. Well oh he he's done lots of a personal journey through cinema with Martin Scorsese. I imagine it it it could have possibly

He you know, he's uh you know such a cinophile, isn't he, that man? You know, I'm sure he's He's he is a very big British cinema fan in particular as well. Like Powell and Bresburger. Yeah, definitely. Yes.

Frankenstein Creative Woman was originally mooted as a follow up to The Revenge of Frankenstein during its production production in nineteen fifty eight. At a time when Roger Vidim's Ediu Krialafem, or also known as and God created woman was been successful. The film's original working title was then

And then Frankenstein created woman. Amazing. There's a lot. This is really like a five year old sentence, isn't it? And then and then and then and then and then this happened and then he went to the shops The film finally went into production at Bray Studios, of course, on the fourth of july nineteen sixty six.

Well England had just won the World Cup. Wow. It was uh Hammers Penulcum Production Imagine those House England at its peak, some would say. Peak England. Yeah. It was Hammers Penulcumate production there. The film was released in the United Kingdom on the eighteenth of june nineteen sixty seven. Even though it was a British production, it actually premiered in the United States a few months earlier on the fifteenth of march nineteen sixty seven.

In the UK, it was typically shown as part of a double bill with the mummy shroud. June nineteen sixty seven was a big month for cinema, and the horror underdogs were going up against the You only live twice. One of the biggest releases of the year, Sean Cornery's fifth out is outing is James Bond, taking double O seven to Japan. It is one of the better ones, but now it is ooh, ethnic stereotypes are a bit dodgy. They really um over retouched my face and got rid of my crow's feet.

And Beck said I looks like Sean Pottery does Japanese um discotes in it. Japanese undercover. It was on very recently. And Hell was like, I have never seen any of it. Whoa. And then he got to the bit with the rocket He dies at the start. They they fake you out and think he's dead, don't they? They they fake his death as well. And they have like a they those like really slow doo doo and then it turns into like a a like a di di like a jazz version of like the

That's diamonds of forever, isn't it? But the Yeah. So he's in a coffin. Sean Connery is in a coffin in Diamonds of Forever. But the bit you're talking about is when a guy gets murdered in uh even let it die and they drop the coffin down over the guy and then they pick him up inside the coffin. Yes. So you've mixed three James Bond films. Yeah.

Uh also that f uh also that year there was the Dirty Dozen, the star studded War Epic featuring Lee Marvin, Charles Bronson, Donald Sutherland, and To Sur with Love starring Sidney Poittier. It is somewhat understandable that the film fails to make its money back at the box office.

Did it really? What good God. While we're painting a picture of that world, the uh the the film was showing in, let us also inform you that A Whitish Shade of Pale by Procol Harum had hit the number one spot on the eighth of June and stayed there for six consecutives. Just an excuse to put that bit of music in, I thought that. Yeah, yeah. I've just looked and um as they started rolling on it, it was almost Like imagine being around at that time.

All that stuff that's going on. And uh tonight we've got the BAFTAs, and I'm looking and I'm like, I don't know who any of these people are. Woke. Sissies. It started off only to I did my my weekly trip to go and see my parents and they Started off with them doing like a Zoom call. For some six years ago now. I saw that and I turned the volume right down and I started just doing some work. God's T V still has a big dial that he turns down for the volume. Yeah.

A match in to tune it into the channels it I just thought I don't want to hear. It was who was it? Brian Cox. Um Alan Cohen coming. Warwick Davis. And then DiCaprio's there, but it I think that was it. DiCaprio was the joke. That was the joke. Right. Turn I'm just gonna put some music work. I don't know why I don't know why any award ceremony needs to have Go to the awards.

Get Jonathan Ross in to present it and just do the awards. I don't want Alan Cummings, I don't want loads of costume changes, I don't want jokes about the traitors probably or all the shit like that. I just want to know who's won the prizes. Right. Right, Carol. Let's get back back back to this. So dearest Peter We're not gonna get a cancelled. No, absolutely not.

Dearest Peter Cushing, who we buy who we bi biographed many times before, is of course Helen Baron Vincent Frankenstein. Susan Denberg plays Christina Cleve. She was a German Austrian model. Cleve, yes. She was a German Austrian model and actress born uh Diedlin Sch uh Zechner. She became a chorus dancer and in nineteen sixty six the Playboy Miss August Playmate, the same year that she appeared in the Star Trek episode Mutts Women. Yeah, she's what a Mud Simon. That's that's a good shout.

This was this was her last movie and she returned to Austria. Thereafter, for many years, sources incorrectly reported that she dies in the late nineteen sixties. Either accidentally or through suicide, in an interview published in the twenty-second of july sixty-eighth edition of Midnight Magazine titled LSD Wrecked My Life. Denburg admitted that since returning to Austria she'd fallen into a life of alcohol and drugs, including LSD.

After the birth of her son in nineteen seventy one, Denberg worked as a topless waitress at an adult cinema in Vienna and later as a dancer in a Vienna nightclub called Rens. Wow. Um and and do we know what happened to uh after that, Ross? That is a life story, is it's weird, right? I hope it you'll be at the Bathis next year if you can make that film.

From Mudswoman to um MSD Nightmare As okay, so as with many films of this era, the m the men behind these movies decided that this actress was okay to look at, but we shouldn't hear her voice. And she was dubbed by Nicky van der Zill, as Denburg's Austrian accent was considered too strong. So Nicky Vanderzill was a German voice actress known for providing the voice of Honey Rider.

In the movie Doctor No, the but the first Bob movie. She also revoiced all the other female voices in that same movie. Wow, except those of Miss Money Penny, of course, and Miss Taro. Vanderzill also worked as a dialogue coach who assisted Gert Frobe, whose English was limited for the movie Goldfinger. And I I I can't be Th this must have become a James Bond podcast. Gert Frobe didn't speak any English at all and he learnt all his his lines by rote, didn't he? Or for this lady.

Yeah. Yeah, amazing. No, Mr. Bundas. No, Mr Bund expected to die. Amazing, amazing. Right. It's just a ma I think it's amazing how they just decided, well, being able to speak English is not a a pre prerequisite to be The main villain in this film. Wow. So it says the last Bond film on which she worked was Moonraker in nineteen seventy nine, revoicing Corinne Cl uh Cleary.

Leanne Shannon and various other characters and you carry on Cleo when Amanda Barry is Cleopatra is enrolled unrolled from a carpet. Nikki Van der Ziel doubled for her. Interesting. So this is another person whose life is just like done the wild stuff, you know. Why why in the sixties did We as a community believe that women couldn't talk. Yeah. Well they're insane bullshit. I I met this amazing um looking girl at the club last night and I've I've cast her in the film. I I didn't actually

Speak to her. Big to her. And I turned up shit, she can't speak English. Okay, well get um what's her name? Get Nikki on the phone. Rita Von C But the fact that she did every voice in Doctor No apart from two women is just fucking madness. Yeah. Well I bet there was something that if he didn't have your voice that he didn't get paid as much as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, probably. Yeah, with w yes. I would have thought w th those in those days it was some man.

If you're named you get a certain amount, if you're something else you get a certain amount. So yeah, they probably didn't they probably got fucked all yeah. And so ended up being a uh an exotic dancer in a club in Austria. So next our next cast member is Thorley Walters.

Who seen his hurt? He featured in three of the St. Trinian's movies, each time as a different character. He was a close friend of director Terence Fisher, which probably helped him appear in several Hammer films. He's probably best recognized as playing Doc Doctor Watson in several unrelated Sherlock Holmes adaptations Sherlock Holmes and the Deadly Necklace. The Best House in London and the Adventures of Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother.

Something is emerging as a kind of somewhat of a nexus point for many of the films that we cover. It's either that or Rasputin the Mad Monk I I'm finding that all of these people are beating. Yeah, yeah. And Silverblaze. He was also Colonel Bloodstone. For in four episodes of John Pertwee's Warzel Gummage.

And he was in Edgar Giolmer's The Earth Dice Screaming, which we all very much enjoyed way back in episode fifteen. So we see Uh Robert Morris as Hans Werner, who was also in Quatemass in the Pit. Released it in the same year and check us check out episode thirty four for us discussing that one. And was Major Hunter in Blake Seven, which apparently they're remaking now, aren't they?

Maybe potentially, maybe, maybe. Uh Peter Blythe plays Anton, seen in twenty two episodes of Rumpole of the Bailey as Samuel Ballard. Two episodes of Jerry Anderson's UFO. Which I've never seen. I've never seen UFO. No, I haven't just I just think of Roy Chubby Brown's UFO. Which which it stood for something very. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was the sequel. And he also appeared in two episodes of Goodnight, Sweetheart. Now new listeners may be surprised to hear we actually discussed that.

Back in episode fifty four. We're not as surprised as John and I were. Blythe Blythe also narrated the nineteen seventy comedy special Cucumber Castle, starring the Bee Gees. Which Ross has put an album of which Ross distinctly remembers his parents owning and I I remember that Ross. I remember going round to your house and that they had kicked'cause I was like, What is this? Because we knew of the BG's for Saturday Night Fever. Yeah, but the dress is night.

Why are they just as knights and what is Cucumber Castle? Yeah, the the weird, strange career of the Bee Gees. There's another podcast. Right. Okay. Now you're the wanker mate. Brilliant. Absolutely amazing. And uh Duncan Lamont features as Werner. In nineteen fifty three he appeared in the m as the major role. of astronaut Victor Careon in Nigel Neal's groundbreaking s BBC science fiction serial, The Quasomass Experiment.

And he's Sladden. Yeah, and it's the next bit it says, and fourteen years later he returned to the series, but he played the role of Sladden in the Hammer Films version of the third serial, the aforementioned Quatemass and the Pit. The guy that runs around and then runs up to the um tea truck. And all the plates are. And then he's lying on the ground and the floor. Yeah. Also I don't know if you've put this in, but I do there's a mention here four.

Colin Jevons. Yes. Yes. What was he? We watched recently. K9 and Company. Yes. Yes. K9 and Company. He was the gardener. He is the priest in the uh in the sequence where Um, Sladden gets his head chopped off at the start of the film. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And also in that sequence, Pat Butcher's husband again. Was he? Who isn't? Um uh Mike Reed, the other the other, he's one uh yeah, he's one of the uh men holding the arms of the madness is madness, isn't it? Yes. They must have all just

Work together. All at the same pub, are they? All at the same pub and just had a fucking whale of a time. They must have had such a whale of a time. So it's so Ross's script says he may be familiar to a certain contingent of our listenership as Dan Galloway in Doctor Who, Death to the Daleks from nineteen seventy four. He blows at the spaceship at the end and

Stops them all escaping the dialect. Lost death to them, yes, no way. Right. And we have seen him in two other General Witchfinders featured movies, Nothing But the Night and The Creeping Flesh. And double Big Christly Claxon there, episodes forty two and fifty six, respectively. Sadly, he died in nineteen seventy eight in Tunbridge Wells in Kent of a heart attack at the age of sixty. He was working at that time on hostage.

an episode of the aforementioned BBC science fiction drama series Blake Seven. Although he completed location work for the episode, he died before the studio scenes had been shot, necessitating a remount of the location material performed by his replacement. John, I... Abenary? Abenary. And then uh Derek Folds finally, you'll be pleased to know is Yo. Johan. Yes.

After success in amateur acting, his teacher encouraged him to take it up as a career, and Foles won a s uh scholarship to Rada in nineteen fifty-eight. An excellent training, I'm sure, for later becoming familiar to British TV child videos as Mr. Derek.

the uh uh popular uh British the children's T V series, The Baselbrush Show. Mr. Roy. There's Mr. Roy in the street. So I don't think I ever understood what Basel Brush was all about and then I don't No. Didn't get it. It wasn't Roland Ratt, was he? No. Was it on when we were kids? Very, very guest on Cracker Jack and things like that, wasn't he? Yes.

I was always trying to figure out if they were actual animal teeth in the teeth. It's probably got an actual s um fox skull inside that, yeah. Uh probably. Yes. Much more clear memories of um uh uh Roland Rats. And Orville, et cetera, et cetera. But I do remember it's Stratford car boot sale. There was a hell of a lot of merchandise for Roland Ratt in the early nineties.

Crazy. I I've Roland Rat's rat race on the Zenic Spectrum. Nice. Which I think was released so quickly that you couldn't actually finish the game. What is that? I think I think they they released the game because it w it was rap more than rap mania in the country. They thought we could have rushed the setup spectrum game out and they never actually finished it so that you couldn't actually complete the game.

Oh that's interesting. He saved T V A. Yeah, do you remember going to Japan and singing Love Me Tender? Did he put on the single break there? I like it. with rat rapping. Yeah. Yeah. I remember rat rapping'cause he had a pink like cadillac or something, didn't he? Eric the Gerbil. See the Welsh. No, no, no. No. Kevin the child. Yes, that's right. Crazy it's so mad that that and that we were all just like won over by that. So strange. Yeah, yeah.

We've got to get Roller Rat on. There'll be a three minute Yeah. Oh wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Drip fed media when when we were when we were children. Right, so anyway, back to back to Derek Foles. We're almost there, people. Um in Yes he then also appeared in Yes Minister and its sequel Yes Prime Minister. He played the naive and Callow Bernard Woolley.

Folds then played curmudgeonly Oscar Blakeson in the long run of the Yorkshire television police drama nostalgia series Heartbeat for its entire eighteen year run. Yeah, and it lasted longer than the sixties. It almost doubled the sixties. But never left the sixties. Crazy. And of course famously I uh um Gary Barlow turned up in an episode of that. So that means that there's like six degrees of Kevin Bacon you can do between Derek Folds and and Gary Barlow. Amazing. Yes. Right.

And Basilbrush. The character first appeared as the local police sergeant and then retired from the force due to Oscar's ill health, but he then ran the post office before becoming a publican. In nineteen ninety, he also played a character called Jack Fentiman in ITV's flagship Monday night drama series Boone. These the characters in Hope Beat

They had like full lives. Like they they had a career in the police, retired, went to so they lived for decades. Yeah. But the t but the time never changed which which they lived in.

I you I I've gotta say that Heartbeat is probably one of my favourite TV shows of all time. The later Heartbeats where it's just regurgitating the sixties it's to the point where it's like a fifty millionth generation photocopy of the sixties and it's like probably Uh a j uh Jagmark Two on the Moors and you hear um All Along the Watchtower by Jimi Hendrix. You've got a guy inside. He's a gangster from London, but he's also been bitten by uh an animal and he might have rabies.

And then do you know what I mean? I've never seen it, but um What? You've never seen Heartbeat. Never seen it. Oh, and The Royal is one episode of The Royal where my where my uh You used to love it because The Royal was filmed in Scarborough, so we used to watch uh The Royal to see Scarborough brilliant. Heartbeat Why do you think that's a good thing? Who took over from Nick Berry?'Cause he he left and quit acting, didn't he? And then A A few heart throbs whose names

Totally now bypassed me. Don't worry. Quite a quite a few people actually did did um The main lead would change. Did he regenerate? Yeah. Basically he would get in the back of like a um an ambulance. Um uh go to the Royal and then there'd be a scene where they'd see him in the shower. And uh it would be a different guy. And then he'd try and find some clothes to wear. And the ex-policeman's clothes would be there and he'd put those on and then he'd Where you

So where are we? We've already touched on Pat Butcher's husband, Colin Jevons. So the film opens with a guillotine. Um, which is interspersed at times with the guillotine from the end of Curse of Frankenstein or the start of Revenge of Frankenstein. I can't remember which is which now. Right. Um, so I think that's probably stop footage. that existed around the time of a guillotine from another film. Um so we see a man uh for some reason pissed and laughing.

It's a being led to his own demand which I thought was hilarious. Yeah, I thought it's a very odd opening. Yes, it is a really strange opening. And he and he seems okay about being executed, um Until he sees a young boy watching from from the ghost machine. Yeah. Yes, it's his son come to watch his father. Yes, be decapitated. And what is so he he makes he implores the priest who's there to give him his last rite.

He's like go and uh you know kind of go kind of go and get hold of my son and then I put that you know the son's not having it and who knew that a a small boy would not be won over by a Catholic priest? Not that He shuts half hands. Uh yeah. Yeah, but I it didn't occur to me that his name would be Hans. I thought I it was uh but then because because it's a Francassine film, I was just thinking it's like about body parts and it what he was just why he was showing hands.

It uh it's straight away with the music and everything that's happening, I'm in such a comfort zone that it's just like Anything can happen in this film and I'll be entertained and happy because it's ham it's James Bernard, James Bernard doing the music. I've already seen Peter Cushing on the credits.

Yeah. Um if if the credits are before this bit, I can't remember. I think maybe they're after are they after this bit? But anyway, he gets his head chopped off, doesn't he? And the little boy sees. And then does it then Through a bit of a white. You see then the guillotine? For all rusted and kind of uh Yeah, well because it's just left up there for the next fifteen years though. We might need this again. And we see uh young Hans comes to go and have a look at the guillotine again. Yeah. Um

with his Beatles haircut. What's what's w w what's mad? We've said this before is that like these films take s t sort of take place in Hammerworld. Where it's like it took me quite a long way into the film. So like, where is this supposed to be happening? And especially when like the th the three arseules in the film, Derek over whom Derek Volts is one of those they're described as the young Russians. I was like, Well, they're what?

He says not a young ruffians. I think you said I thought oh you could be ruffians. The police have got the uh same helmets that Patrick Trouton had on in um What was that film? Uh The Reptile, was it? No, no, that's um the Gorgon. The Gorgon, yes. Um so I I did a bit of research to try to work out. They said there's a coat of arms on the um side of the one of the courages which says it might be an ost Austrian.

Yes. But then I did some research to see if they used a guillotine in Austria um at that period and apparently they didn't, but they had a similar thing in Germany. Um it could it could be Like you said, Hammerville, isn't it? I think all of Europe becomes one kind of quasi Franco German state. Weird place, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Weird foreigners. Yeah. Basically. Yeah. Weird foreigners doing weird stuff. So um after he's i he goes to see um

the sight of his father's death. Yeah, as you do. Yeah, which it it just helps with the tying all the scenes together, doesn't it? Yeah. Um and he's wearing the same clothes. He's wear Yeah, I thought that's the same thing. Yeah trademark Ross. Yeah, yeah. Well you know once you've established your sort of brand, haven't you? You've got to keep that going. Exactly, exactly. Well he's one of Dex's midnight runners around the time that they didn't get.

Then he runs to Cafe Rene. Oh no, sorry, no. He he doesn't go to Cafe Renee. No, he goes to the um he goes to see the Baron and the doctor. Okay. So I watched this film Not the Doctor. No, not the Doctor. Um well it well he was a doctor, but he wasn't He would be I think Thorley Waters would be a really good doctor.

Um, I think he'd be would have been an amazing doctor in an alternative universe, wouldn't he? Particularly with this kind of befuddled but i amazing performance from Thorley Walters in this where he comes up with some lines Where you're just like, Oh my god, like what there's one did I write it down where it's like, I'm just a broken down, sad old drunk or something And you're like, This is quite an unusual pathos for a character in a

Hammer film. Yeah. So I watched this with my my my two daughters and they actually were quite in up um interested in it. Which is it was good. Um but They thought that. the doctor and the Baron were a married couple. Oh which is interesting it's just interesting seeing it through their sort of modern point point of view. And I said, Well no, they wouldn't have been married back then and they go, Oh, okay. No. No, me and my husband um Beckets um Rowan kept saying on it. So let

Paulie Winters type not Bernie Winters. It's timing and timing an experiment, um, which they're doing and They put Oh yes, this is a good bit, isn't it? It's so pointless. Yes, of course it is. Yes. I I can't remember how long they're they're timing. Um an hour, exactly an hour, not a second more. And they pull out from a giant fridge which they've got. Uh freezer. Um the the baron. We s weak cushing's gone to Iceland. As I've said, um

Where where does all this equipment come from? Yeah. And it's been installed somewhere and it's like no one's noticed all this mad equipment. Well, they do know that they he's doing some kind of satanic things, they think. Yeah. It's a bit like one of those things you pull out in a in a in a film set of a um like the X Files, isn't it? Like the morgue way you pull out. Um psychomania where all the dead bodies is displayed in glass, um sort of like what?

Like encoves in the wall so you can just see the bodies at all time. Like sp like some kind of spaceship that was, wasn't it? Very strange. But as they pull him out, he's got his hands, his glove hands over his face, isn't he? Yes. His um his smoking gloves. Yes. Well it's the only nod to the previous film, which is the Eviler Frankenstein. Which is kinda seen as a non canonical hammer one because it's so bad. But he he does get his hands very badly burned.

But it's just similar to the other um one we watched where he ne he needs someone to do the um surgery for him. So that's why he's um linked on to uh this doctor, isn't it? That's Frankenstein and the monster. Yes. And so yeah, so they they they just warm up Peter Cushing, but they warm him up by sort of jump starting him like an old Ford Escort, don't they? Off of that electrical grid they got on the ceiling, which is like the dodgeums I always I thought.

That's quite an amazing shot though, isn't it?'Cause you're looking down onto him through this this kind of mesh. And then the crocodile clips are attached to Michelle. They're put onto Chris uh Peter Cushing's nipples, yeah, and then he he jumps to life with a massive erection. Ha ha ha. At least that's what's best. That's what's touched on it, Ross. That's what happened in my cartoon film, anyway. Yeah. Oh, buddy.

Yeah so so what I put is this is at this point this is very similar to the actual plot of f the movie Flatliners. Oh yes, yes, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You know, and the fact that he's experienced like, okay, kill me. Or, you know, kind of put me into a state which is virtually death and then resurrect me and let's see what happens. Bring me back again. Yeah. And that's I've not seen that. But it yeah. Um yeah, so

Peter Cushin jumps off jumps up to this enormous erection and his frog coat and his gloves. Uh but what is happening? They're they're to they're trying to warm him up by stoking up this Uh what I really laughed at at this point is he's like stoke up the fire to keep him warm. And the guy opens the the kind of boiler thing and there's like Six feet of flame jumps out of it and he's like prodding it with the poker.

It couldn't be much more on fire really. But they're they're very pleased that um he he can keep the body alive for this amount of time, so he sends sends off a young Hartons to go and get some um champagne. Um,'cause he doesn't want any of uh Thorley Walter's brandy. I think it's brandy he says, isn't it? And also the village I put it's it's the classic hammer set, isn't it? Yes. Yeah again. A lot smaller than usual though.

Yes, it's been cut quite cut down here. But it is exactly the same, you're right, James, as uh the one in the Gall Gun. It's in uh Plague of the Zombies, it's in The Reptile, uh it's part of Dracula's castle as well in Dracula Prince of Darkness. So yeah, it's all the same mishmash. Uh which is why why I love watching these films'cause it's

You're just in this weird kind of iman imaginary zone where everything is kind of weirdly familiar. Um, and uh and yeah, so yeah, straight away you're like, oh, here he is in this bit of the backlog. Goes into the cafe.

Are there twats in them? Well he goes in he g first before um the the uh the landlord turns Yes, he goes in to talk to Christina. So Christina is um the landlord's daughter But she's got a uh like a poor No, it's it's it's like a deformity. Not quite, but it's like her her face like the skin on her face has melted slightly. Do we know d are we ever told why this is a little bit more than a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a bit of a limp as well. Yes, yes.

And um absolute fair Yeah yeah, very hammer tropic. Yeah. But these are three of the most repugnant in the history of film, don't they? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like they're just they're beyond the thing. Oh, they're they're just like Everything about this film though is very kind of um uh nursery rhyme kind of Yeah. Strange, sinister kind of fairy story. Um And these are.

Three of the biggest twas. We've said it before, but once again, they're like the Burlington Club. Yes. Rich arseholes chucking their money in. So basically they demand that the um the daughter comes out and serves them so they can they can laugh.

Yeah. Uh but they basically to say if she spills any of the any of the drink stuff they they're gonna kick off, aren't they? Yeah. But she does end up spinning some of the drink onto one of them and then this causes Hans to have a a massive uh rumble with them in the

In the place. As I've written a Jim Kirk style in in the original Star Trek series, there's a lot of like action roles filming Bud's Woman um last month Yeah and I saw some gr great um fight choreography so maybe show let me show you some moves. He but he put both of his hands together to make like a club. Yeah. Or he rolled at their feet. Or he rolled at their feet, yeah. Absolutely. She was doing mud to women a little uh a g a little while before this.

Yeah. And and that he uses salt as a weapon, doesn't he? He throws salt into their face. Yeah, it blinds all three of them momentarily. I think I skipped through quite a lot of the fight'cause it it goes on for quite a while, doesn't it really? Um but but j and then he uh gets a knife, um slashes one of the guys' faces.

Mm. And then but then the the police turn up uh just in time for h to hear him shout that I kill you all and as as we find that his father was a murderer. Yes. And he w his father who we saw being excused at the start. But then the tops want to push ch uh press charges, but they're just saying what what really? You want people to know that this one guy took three uh took three of you out and and And I think at this point the kind of landlord doesn't want to charge them because they're tough.

Um so h the we haven't mentioned the landlord, but he's around and he's the father of Christina, isn't he? Oh yes. So he's been given so Hans has been given the coat By my little tank. Um it Hans was given an like an overcoat'cause it's a cold night by Thorley Walter Walters. Uh which is kind of some uh like a bit of a MacGuffin really, isn't it? It's like I don't know. It's big they use it later on as evidence, so they um

Because he hasn't got any money to pay for the champagne. He trades the coat in for the champagne. But no one's there to witness this happen so that um later on when something happens they c they can say, Well that was his coat. And it's quite a nice I'd say nineteen ninety seven kind of Liam Gallagher. Oh, I thought it was quite um with nil. Almost oh yeah, a bit with nil. It's it's quite Burberry esque, isn't it? Like the blue.

Burberry pattern, I thought. And I was like, I can see Liam doing a weird Lennon-esque walk down a street with Patsy Kensit just behind him. Threatening some photographers. Shaking a a big pepper mill in their faces. Are you ever thought of going back to your Burberry stage, John? Uh Yeah. No. We've got some great pictures of you wearing nothing but Burbie Pattern.

I know. It was an important point in my life for me because the factory was in Castleford as well, which is the next town to where I was born. But then after after Liam, I think it went all a bit shit, didn't it? And idiots started wearing it like that guy was he in Norfolk that won the lottery and he started wearing it. M Mikey Carroll.

Yes. The Finn Man. Yes. And then uh he started wearing Burberry and stuff. And then Goldie Looking Chain had a Vauxhall Cavalier painted in the Burberry pattern. For a video and then I was just like, Maybe I couldn't. Well if you was if you had that brand, you must be thinking, What the fuck's happening? What this is when do we sell it? Yeah, this is destroying this is destroying all any kind of um uh credibility we've got.

For about five minutes in nineteen nineteen. When you were wearing it, Johnson. It was like Johnny Van Ray. I had two shirts, I had a hat Um I add a be uh uh like a uh bed cover in it. Um I add a watch. That just uh t fell to pieces. Um all sorts of rubbish. I didn't realise you slept under Burberry as well as John.

Yeah. I did forget. Do you make didn't you make it into something though? Was it pit cushions for the menu or something, maybe? Y yeah, and then I cut it up and I used it in the on the interior of my Reliant Kitten in uh in North Yorkshire. Which for people if people don't know what a Reline kitten is, where the fuck have you been?

But a Reliant Kitten is the four wheeled version of the Reliant Robin, uh of which I've had three mo three different models. Yeah, I've had three I've uh maybe maybe more than three actually. Uh I've had two salo uh two estates in a saloon. Wow, I'm gonna need to I will google an estate bush on the right getting you know you've made it when you're one of those eh. Uh uh.

I think that that the kitten should be the uh the cover of this episode. Maybe if y maybe you can photoshop um Peter Cushing into the Relan kitten. I think that won't better.

We uh Yeah. So the Baron comes back uh looking w uh the Baron comes with the doctor looking for Hans who's been arrested by the by the police. Uh and they offer to um uh patch up the the uh the the baddies who've got a c a cut on their head. Yes, and it's implied they've neither of them have got money at this point, isn't it? Yeah, I put why is everyone broke in this film?

Everyone's like like bartering for stuff or going, Oh no, sorry, I haven't got any money at the moment. It's yeah. Over over like one crown. Yeah. So um while this is all happening, um Hans has been released. And he's snuck up um uh to the bedroom of the uh the landlord's daughter and Is this w this when he has a bit of weird, awkward nook? Yes.

And she turns the light off and very strange. He he talks about his father and he's odd put he's oddly pithy about about viewing his dad being executed. He's like Well of course uh dad got because dad was executed. I'm like un unless there's some really weird repression going on here. He seems to process that in a very strange way. Find that the character is quite a bit. strangely written and it must have been quite hard to play. Yes.

But he's like ev every five minutes he's having a scrap and he says, I'm gonna kill you. But then it's like Yeah, but the rest of the time he's laughing and then people are saying, Oh, he wouldn't ha he you know, he wouldn't harm a fly kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Quite a strange character for for this. Like you said, to having a bi a little bit of nookie and then the the villains come out and they sing a a song about her being a virgin at at her bedroom window. Yeah, I'm being ugly and I'm

Scumbags. Yeah. Oh, they're just horrible out there. But she restrains him from going but he's s saying again, I'm gonna kill him again. The rage factor comes back in again. Maybe the alarm bells for a potential boyfriend, but you know, if But no, she's fine with it, isn't she? What did the girls make of that park leaves when they're like canoodling and the other one?

Those men are singing like a big thing. So I had to explain what that was. Uncomfortable. No, she actually said, Oh actually I think I know. You don't need to tell me. Okay. Thank God. But while this is while this is happening The the Baron is doing a n uh doing an experiment which doesn't doesn't go anywhere. He builds this he's building some kind of like magma drill.

Oh yeah, and that is this when he shoots a grass. No, no, before that he sa that was that's got something to do with the plot later on this experiment. It's got does it go anywhere? He's he's he's burrowing under the ground of the um Of the of the village with some kind of like like laser beam. Yes. Yes. He's extracting energy slash heat from rocks. Yeah. Isn't he?

All right, okay, fine. But never to be mentioned again after a big thing. I don't think I've taken that part. I know the bit you mean. And I thought this is quite a cool sci fi, but yeah, you are right. It doesn't go anywhere, does it? Maybe some of our listeners can tell us their ideas of where this actually was meant to be going. Yes.

Uh then we cut maybe they said, hang on, this is called Frankenstein, there's n it's not hard any fucking Frankenstein in it. We need to but yeah we need him to be doing something in the lab. Yeah. Yeah. Any science. Any science. It doesn't matter. It is quite a quiet film for Cushing, I think. Unusually benevolent and kind of quite kindly The kids say that he's like Sherlock.

In it. They would descend Sherlock vibes. And I was thinking, yeah, so he's coming across as that um uh a high function sociopath, um autistic, doesn't you know and I think yeah, that that was a 'Cause in the other films he he's an out and out actual like CNX Tuesday, isn't he? Whereas unless he's just like somebody he's just it does he's just not interested in any human emotions or interaction. People are just getting in the way of his experiments, aren't they?

Never thought of him like w uh we're talking Benedict Jumboch's Um You really should show them Anthony Bret. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um While this is happening, the band is thinking, Oh, actually w let's go back and break into the into the in the into cafe, Renee and they start drinking in there and then the landlord I realised he he's he's left his key or something, hasn't he? Uh when he's and he's wearing the coat of um which he's bought off of the

off of Hans. And he goes back and he gets very lightly beaten with canes and easily killed by the by the by the baddies at this point. Yeah.

Uh but then I'll then then Hans comes back after um well I don't know where he's been uh sleeping with his girlfriend to see w what's going what's going on and um and Turns up at the scene of the crime. Yeah, why does he go about? Or is it in the morning? And what's going on? And then they arrested for the murder of of everyone turns round to look at him, don't they? And then the copper comes out and pulls him. Yeah. Very, very old Your Nick, put your trousers on, son, you're not. Exactly. Mm.

And also th th my note from that is that the policeman says to him, Hans, where were you last night? And he stops and he goes I don't want to tell you. What I've put is it's never a good idea to say that to the police. Yeah. Any w any question. You just say I was at the Pizza Express. Um but the um Not sweating. Not sweating.

The kids were saying I They couldn't understand why he would couldn't tell her and I said because Yeah, uh well that's what I was thinking. And yeah, he was being such a gentleman, he was protecting her honour. Either that or we was embar so embarrassed about Well yeah, that's kind of How it comes across in some ways, isn't it? Yeah. But it it is quite strange. He could have just said he was with um you know, they were looking at some etchings or something.

She then also departs, doesn't she? That's part you know, she's the she's where does she go at this time? She she goes off to see someone to go like to go go visit a relative or something, isn't it? Yeah. So she so she's not there during the trial, she can't come and rescue him. She's during the trial to come and rescue him. Yeah. And then so then...

It then turns into I put I wasn't expecting this to suddenly pivot to a legal thriller. I mean yeah, for bearing in mind it's you know, like a ninety minute runtime, there's a good like five, ten minutes of the case against him. And then the trial. Yeah. I really liked it and I thought, Why there needs to be more hammer courthouse dramas'cause I love a good courthouse drama. There's a bit of a courthouse drama in um the Gorgon as well, isn't there, where The guy is meant to have murdered.

It's uh the son is meant to have murdered his lover, but actually has he turned to stone by this point? I can't remember now. But yes, like nearly fifty minutes into the film and and Frankenstein has done no resurrection of anyone. No horror. We had It's a very atypical Frankenstein film. Yes. And it's... The yeah, the trial against Hans when it starts is dreadful. It's like the worst

So what my notes is says like the policeman who is also acting as like the prosecuting uh uh you know, the prosecuting lawyer goes he he asks another policeman, Is this man a killer? And the other guy goes Yes. And I've just put case closed, Malud. No no further questions. And I put this is Barry George levels of prosecution. He had he had a speck of firework in his pocket. Which is probably what from the rockets he attached to his um roller skate.

Backside Whilst on his way to put down some flowers for Princess Di. Yeah. Barry George, Bar Barry Bolsara. Is he still alive and at liberty in Great Britain? Yes, he was he I believe he was given money. He was g he was mad in the same Free society as Barry George. And he hasn't gone on to kill any of a uh Princess Diana look at his own. So maybe he didn't do it. Yeah. No, uh take that out, please. I feel bad about it. Yeah. Just put just put that just put it in me saying that. Okay. Jamie.

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Yeah, so so poor Hans loses his case and it's just put you know, they put two and two together and get ten. and say, well, your dad was a murderer and we've heard you shout I'm going to kill you at someone who is not the victim. You are li you are likely to have done some violence. And so therefore, because you won't tell us where you are We'll have to assume that you were doing the murder. And immediately execute you. And yeah, like like right. No no appeals is done for.

Peter Cushing, to be fair, does fuck all as well, doesn't he? He's too busy. And he just is like pompous and like, Yeah, you're all fucking idiots. Um But but he's actually ri I think he's because we have seen that he has done this experiment where he can make a force field round a a a wine glass. which means he can preserve Yeah. So I thought this is quite interesting because uh considering we've just done the aspect.

Yeah, which is which very, very, very similar. I write the same thing, Rob. Yes. So we we realise so and I think um Frankenstein clocks onto she goes, Okay, well, I need to have a severed head. Um and i if I don't do too much to um help him I will get uh access to a um Hans's body really fresh. Unlike in all my other films where I basically just push people off stairs Chopped people's heads off and put them in a ha in a hat box. So what he does gets um uh his uh husband

Threaten the uh the jailer. Yes, this is a a great scene. This is very classic in the game. Yeah, it's really good that where there's a a character in it for no point who's got a bit of a weird cough. And then there's this implied thing that this guy is a creep who's got someone pregnant in the past, come back from somewhere else with boils on his body and so he's blackmailed basically by doctor.

Um so this is because so this because Frankenstein thinks that Um he can use this special beam he's got. to to get the soul out of um a body a recently died body. Pseudoscience clax. Yeah, the pseudoscience is really quite hard to keep track track of this. And then he said he can then put that into a body. But this is a bit but it Is it a recently deceased body?

It it's very poorly defined. They uh they take Hans um cruelly um to be executed in the same guillotine that was which his father was killed in and let him walk up to it and and But did you notice like a a two days before We saw the guillotine that was all broken and rusty. Right. And now they take him back to the guillotine to be beheaded and it's like lovely. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So take pride in your life. Well maybe they got D R Y S OS to come in and get it sorted out. This community's guillotine has been has fallen into disrepair. But I've also po pointed out that The the one thing for Hans is at least he's got a better turnout for his execution than his dad got. Whereas at least half the village are there to see him yeah Hans being there, so I thought, Well, you know, you would choose something miss it. And then is um Christina.

Turns up late. She's coming Yeah, she's coming up she's coming back from wherever the fuck she's been with another woman in the carriage who's like, Oh, I don't wanna miss it. There's a public guy going on. So then Christina sees um Hans uh beheaded and then as a bit of a freaky as I suppose you would do really

And froze her off of at least five foot high bridge into at least uh a a foot of water and promptly dies apparently. Yes. But that's when they uh the the baron's gonna do is take the soul out of Hans's head and put it into the body of Christina But it but but there's no kind of there's no kind of things about how does he bring her back alive in order to do that? And and the process of doing this miraculously repairs all of her disforment disfigurement and turns her bombs. Yeah.

Yes, yes. Well he just says, Oh, her hair's changed colour. Um yeah, so she drowned. She is brought in by a load of men and they're and um They're like, Can you do anything for her? And Foley Walters says no'cause she's dead, but then Peter Cush in his ear wiggins says, Bring her in. And then i it kind of just jumps then, doesn't it, to her i encased in bandages. But we do see the containment field with with the soul in it.

Which is another similarity to um the aspects as well. And that I found that bit. Pretty cool that we s we actually see what a soul looks like. It's just that a big glowing orb. Yes, it is good. I really like that part. There's a l a lot of this film which um I really like. I think it's very interesting he's extracting from the rocks underneath the thing is what he's using to keep the containment fill for the for the soul, but yes.

Uh, so then um we see her kind of lying down, covered in bandages, a bit like um Joker. Every she asks for a mirror and you won't let her have one, but then for it. Oh right. I was I was gonna say more like p uh Christopher Lee's monster in the first film or creature. in the first film, how he's wrapped in bandages and then you have the crash zoom and he pulls the bandages away. In this one, um, Thorley Walters has to kind of

split her bandages in half and then it's hoping to see that she's become beautiful and uh she's changed from dark haired to blonde. Yeah, which is which is, as we all know, more beautiful. Darkhead women are disgusting. I think it's almost like... the ideal human being probably would be blonde and blue eyed, I imagine. I think so, yes. Absolutely. They're I'd say they're the summit of the Yeah, almost like uh uh like a a superman or or

What would that be in German? Who is this superman? Superman Yes. Uh yeah, Germanic. Well, they are Germanic, aren't they? Yeah. So then there's a kind of weird kind of travelogue section where they kind of dress her up like a doll, isn't there, and stuff and they kind of Teach her to walk And no one in the village has realised that she looks exactly the same, but it's but it's it can't be the same way. Who could they check that her legs and stuff don't hurt?

Doing a bit of a pervy leg f uh foot rub on her. That was a few strange sequences, yes. And so yes, now we get into what could what you really have to say is sort of like the meat of this film. We're coming towards the end. Only an hour in.

Hans's soul is now in her body. And Hans understandably is a bit pissed off. That these three dickheads uh Scott and Scott Free framed him for murder, even though he could have just said, Look, I was having sex with that woman and everything would have been all right, but never mind. Uh just to say, how did he know they framed him for murder? How did he know it's them?

Wow Because he's seen the film like we have and um Yeah. Okay. Hammer logic. Hammer logic. And so then the the point of this film is that she is then going to e exact her revenge. Or on you know, or his revenge on those guys by using her female charm. Yes. And he picks them off one by one by one. So the the first one i is the the the the the main the main body, the blonde one with the scarred face. Well he draws a a

Ace of Spades, which I didn't realise was the c card of death. I never I never know that. No, I had no idea. I didn't know the song The Ace of Spades by Mohe. I didn't realise that that's why it was a I thought it was just a call card. Yeah, I c I can we've gone this far in your uh your lives. I've never heard the lyrics. DA Spay, don't forget the joker. That's all I've ever heard with that song.

So that's the the card of death for James. Apparently so. It was something to that never happened in Live and Let Die with James Seymour, did it? Uh different set of cards. Tower. It's widely considered the death card through its reputation comes from more from wartime history and pop culture than ancient superstitions. Oh, okay. So if you're if you're fortune telling with a traditional deck of cards that they used to made is a is a card of death.

Um so the the the main baddie hears the voice of Hans which scares him into uh drinking with his shit with his mate. They leave him I like I like to think he's filled his pants at this point, doesn't he? Okay. Um and but then he comes out and he's tempted by um the the the new sexy version of of Christine who who says there's an abandoned house, which is her house. Over there. First of all he freaks out that he doesn't want to go to that house.

Um, because of his guilt, but then he decides that he can't um withstand her. He can't stop getting it. But then you stu I'm not sure how he kills her because um they to go into the into the house.

Uh, she goes behind a curtain, he demands that she comes out and takes her shoes off his shoes off. She doesn't come. He goes in there and then we cut to the guillotine going down. So are we are we led to believe that he l She drags him all the way to the guillotine on the edge of town to to behead him. Yeah. Or was uh another killing um secret specific thought but actually

All the st Yeah, that's a good point actually. I hadn't thought of that. We don't see him beheaded, do we? We just see We don't we don't see anything about his death. Uh th No. Then the um But then they're discussing it, aren't they, the next day and saying, uh, his hands back So then we have the um the second guy um She sort of seduces him in the um in the cafe. She accidentally lets him spill the the um the wine on the on her skirt.

She said, I'm gonna go and take it off in here, so he's thinks that that's a you know, come and get me. He goes in and then she's got a big meat cleaver, wax it down, and then it's a nice cut to a uh the the chopping of a log, I thought. That is beautifully lit. And it's a really good sequence. She's lit all in red from the fire. It's it's really well done. And then yeah, w in a in a classic kind of um Terrence Fishery style, it goes from

It's like a kind of uh visual link to the next scene, isn't it? Like when And we we we found his decapacitated body on the floor, covered in Harns' coat with the word harns written on blood. Just a really try from who could have been responsible for it. Guys Hans was it. Yeah,'cause they've put two and two together and said hands is back.

Who brought him there? And they go and he says, Oh let's go and check his body and they ch they dig up the body, which is but ba is buried like one centimetre down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not as bad as um psychobics. Buried sat up on a motorbike out of the ground. That one was amazing. Still one of the maddest.

That was nuts. The most archetypal images I've ever seen in my life of a a guy buried sat on a motorbike out of the ground. I do think psychobedia is gonna be one of our um touchstones moving forwards. It was a Um what a great film. Uh so then they realize the b the head is gone and then we cut to the head and stuck on the end of um Christine's Bed and she's she's talking to it and with his voice.

Which is very similar, oddly stylistically, to in the ri uh the Sam Raimi Spider Man movies. Oh. Wh wh whenever like the Green Goblin would would would talk to Well it would talk to Norman Osborne. He could kind of talk to him through the mask. Oh, okay. It's a similar sort of thing. Yeah, and I didn't um oh what was his name? Ed Kemper have his mum's head I used to talk to him and tell him to go and kill people Who said that? No ed killer, I think it was.

Co ed killer. I don't know. I'm You know it's a true crime. You you like the these pro these type of murders. I like I like false crime.

So then we're left with the last guy to kill, the guy from um Yesminster. Yes. Yes, and then i i weirdly he's murdered by Basil Brush, isn't he? Stra he' strangulated by Basil Brush. So he try he thinks oh shit, I need to get out of town, so he runs he he runs off, gets into the carriage and who's sitting in the g in in the carriage waiting?

is uh Stacey Christine here, uh who is given the g the um the coach driver some money to say the horse has thrown a thrown a shoe when they're out in the woods. And then she says, Well why don't we go and have a picnic over over here? Mm-hmm, I've put I've put his admission he's like desperate to get out of town. He's so convinced he's gonna be killed. He's like, I've got to get away get the hell away from here. Yeah. He's just immediately won o won over by a blonde Come on, right?

Alright, I won't w I won't escape. It is a good parable on the stupidity of men. Yes, yes. Well Talus was saying why do they keep doing this? And then Rome was like, Because she's pretty and and it's like At this point is Cushing what's going on. It's making chase, isn't it? Is it is it making chase? Is that the uh take taking chase. Giving chase, giving chase giving chase.

Yes. And bombing along in a in a one man buggy. With a horse. Not just like the buggy in um Diamonds are forever on the moon. Ha ha. And um Or little little Nell in uh Diamond uh no, um You Only Live Twice. Was it is it little Nell the um the micro the micro. I w I really want to fly one of those one time. Or one of those things, you know where where it's like a big fan on your back and you have a um a parish.

That has got Ross Cleaver has sadly put died today. Yes. Written all over. I've seen a video of William Shatner using one of those, so if he could he can do it and he's like, it's very um late, late breakfast show, isn't it? Yeah. Getting wrapped ra wrapped around a um a pylon. A pylon. Yeah. Come back to Nall in the studio. Oh, they're just mad. They're just mad. Bonkers.

Right. So yeah, so so uh we're we're almost at the end. Um the other mad thing that's happened is um they uh like the like the police turn up to kind of investigate like what the hell has been going on. And the y the other doctor. Who who's not Frankenstein? Yes. Like do you ex Oh no he asked Peter Cushy what's what's happened. He asked Frankenstein and he he tells him. And he then sa the policeman goes, Do you expect us to believe this? And the other doctor goes He is telling the truth.

And then and then the corporate's just like okay. He's one over like in a heartbeat. It's like oh okay. Okay, yes. Yes. You're right. You're quite you're quite right, Ross. I mean the doctor is a learned man and they have known him a long time. Um and he's not known as a drunk. So the doctor gets out just in time to find Christine as chopped off the head of uh the last remaining of the the baddies. Yeah, yeah. And is talking uh in the voice of Hans.

Yeah and then Which is quite creepy. And then he runs and jumps off a cliff and She says, Oh I've I've done what must be what what needed to be done. That's it. I and I can't go on now. Is it a cliff? Oh yeah. They just so have to be near the sea and the the It's the it's the drowning motif, isn't it? I think it's more of a weir or something, Cleeves. I don't think it's the C. I think it is the C.

Uh I thought it I did I thought it was supposed to be the same. Big water. And yet again drowned instantaneously. It's that like it's not thrashing around screaming to Oh well move on to the next like the Littless Hobo, the Frankenste or or Bruce Banner at the end of the Frankenst uh um Hulk. He just moves on to the next town. Yeah, yeah, because'cause once again, you know, we've said so many times that there are no coders to these movies, but really with this one, it's like

So what? Like all his experiments that he was doing, everyone's what what's what's gonna be the deal with those? Yes. How? Is anyone bothered? Is er is everyone agree with that? Yeah. And I think that's it it's left to Thorley Walters to explain what the fuck all the machinery is and And then they then they sh they show it to the the money men, whoever they manage to, you know, convince bits of money into this and they go, Well, where's the mon where's the monster?

This isn't a Frankenstein film. There's no like there's no Where's Karloff? Where's Lee? And they go, Oh shit, okay well Where's the bolts in the A good sequel though actually, you saying that, Cleve? Then the money men come in, but it's a bit like Cyberdyne Systems. And they use all this technology to build something else that becomes another spin off.

That would be good, wouldn't it? That would Big Finish should fucking look into that. Well, if you listen to there's an upcoming episode of Too Hot for T V where I um Yes I I uh cover Two Dracula audio plays. One which is um the one with Michael Sheen doing the um the uh the narration, which is excellent. Excellent, which is the imprintable first of Dracula.

Excellent. And then we also review one of the Mark Gaist Dracula Big Finishes, which is one of the worst things I've ever listened to. Oh Dra is it called Dracula's War Dracula's War. The one that w Yeah. I think Dracula's guest I might have taken the pictures for the cover of Yes, I I do recap that story to Uh to you. So go and listen Do you talk do you talk about him doing the Roger Ball dude?

I s stole that anecdote from you, sorry. Very good. But don't listen to um Too Hot for TV and you find are we discuss should there be a spin off um audio but uh Hammer Universe? And I say, Yes, but don't let Big Finish do it because it it was uh rubbish what they did. Did you see the other day, and this is just an aside, they've got a new contract for doing Doc T Who spin offs until twenty thirty five. This is insane. That's like

That's like longer than the end of time. There wouldn't be no well be dead probably. It would be in the in the the rubble of like like a post apocalyptic wasteland and Nick Briggs will be like Screaming into Screaming into a um a non non functioning ring modulator. Uh and trying to record it onto sort of like a wax cylinder somewhere. Colin Baker sat on a desk alone in the rubble just signing pictures of himself for all eternity. And his radioactive croc.

Right. Okay. So yeah So there we are. That's the ending. Scores on the doors, what do we think, fellas? I it wasn't one of my favourites. It wasn't terrible and I think mm the fact that two what what gen what they Gen Z and Gen Alpha kids watched it all the way through.

They lost interest when they realized they uh when uh they started killing off the baddies at the end, which is a bit I think you're waiting for. Uh they went, Oh well this is what it's gonna be. I think th I th I think they didn't they couldn't work out what the story w was gonna be until that point They knew where it was going, they lost interest.

That's interesting. Yeah, I think it I think it I think it's an interesting way of taking the ha the E. Frankenstein story forwards. But as with something I again I say on this other podcast is that often people go, okay, well People love Frankenstein. Do you know what they love about it? It's just is is is him.

But not we don't want to show too much of him. So there's people sort of a around him. Round him they don't realise you know, the thing people like are the monsters he makes and the monsters g uh go and running amok. And it's just it feels like

Sometimes people just they try and do something different but they end up like throwing away all the bits people are interested in. But also that that's gonna be an economic decision as well though, isn't it, Ross? As you say as we've said so many times before, existing sets Oh, how much is this makeup gonna cost us? How much is this special effect gonna cost us? Right, okay, what's it's like rolled gold, isn't it? It's like thinly uh it's okay, well we've got Peter Cushing.

Right. Okay. How many scenes can we have with Pete, how many scenes can we do with Pete Fishing? And how you know what's he available for you? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And all of them does want to be at home making his models. That's right. He needs to be painting some miniature figures in his slippers. In Whitstable.

Yeah. So I think that's the thing you've got to do. So we'll put we'll have to put some police. But yeah, so I think you're absolutely right that you know, y you do end up losing sight of what makes the character good and what people respond to. But also you think, Oh, there's always with these films and any film that you watch, there's always the economic positions that are behind it as well. And the older I get, the more you realise, Oh, I see, I understand. It's not just a case of

Like a like a T V show or a T V series. You know sitting and go, Right, okay, fifteen of the best stories we can come up with. Good. Here's the arc. Oh wait, but if we do those episodes, those are gonna be expensive and if they're expensive, we then can't do those episodes. So we've got to redo that to make you know there's always this

this playoff. Yeah, and I do suppose it was the fourth Frankenstein from they made so they thought, well we can't just keep doing the same thing over and over. But they tried something and then it was like, oh maybe that didn't work. I don't know. Well, well. So what's your score, please? 3 Oh really? Yeah. James? Yeah, I I'd have to say the same, I'm afraid. I'm gonna give it a solid four. Cool.

I think it's the last of the Great Hammer films. Okay. Um I think you can tell that it's in Brace Studios and I think after they left Brace Studios A lot of stuff went to shit. And I think this is one of the last ones where all the team are there. I think they're trying to do something really interesting with the character. There's no monster. There's no horror. It's another one where they're trying out like this kind of weird fantasy

kind of um uh nurse not well not nursery rhyme fairy tale kind of stuff. I think it's a very interesting, weird film. Uh and a bit of a kind of

failed experiment, but that is Peter Cushing's Frankenstein, isn't it? Everything he does is about a failed experiment and that's why I I love it so much. Cool. And I think it's one of the best Hammer Frankenstein's probably the second best after Frankens the only two you really need to see are Frankenstein Must Be Destroyed, which we haven't se we haven't watched yet.

And this one. And I think they're two they're the they're two sides of the same coin but they're very, very different films. Because everything then about where Hammer goes next

is in Frankenstein Must Be Destroyed, where there's a rape scene, where there's loads of gore, there's loads of horror, there's loads of m blood and murder. So yeah, ve very interesting film. But um yeah, I agree with both of view of what you've said, but I I am very fond of it because it is this kind of part of this I f I think changing of the guard is the thing.

And and it was just like someone doing some kind of experiment or something like that. Mm. Like the Asterix. Yeah. Because the Asterix could have been a Good film. It was good. I hope it and to be fair, if we'd watched a print of it which was visible, we might have enjoyed it. I could could have to spend that four pounds on the D V D right.

I I am very much won over though. I do really like now you've mentioned it, I do really like the idea of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen stylee with all of these kind of like the remnants of I said all these hammer movies that don't have a coda. Creating some kind of story which is a coda to all the as you said, like the experiments of Frankenstein. What's what happens to them and what what you know, what do they get used and

How do they did it? They go, Right, okay. That'd be cool. Get get that stuff, get that, get that and then it's all being taken somewhere.

Uh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then Great, there you go. Hammer if you're listening. John Gore. Yeah. Maybe sh we should email him. I just think they should um You know, we every time we do this pause podcast, we come up with a positive way that a lot of these films could be re should be paying us lots of money to W what j yeah, just to be consultants on making this stuff again.

You know, some of it's so old now, no one knows, you know there'd be rights issues with Quatamas and stuff like that, but I'm sure a lot of these films they could remake for next to nothing. And um uh and they'd be good and they'd find an audience. You know,'cause fuck all horror comes out now. When you think about this era being the golden age of horror and stuff.

Like a new horror film every week. There's hardly any horror comes out at all now that is like I think they're in into the into the cinema. Mm. It's all the stuff that Cleaver watches, Shames, which is the Uh I watched a film and it's a girl trapped in a room. And um then she gets bones and um she's gotta uh the screens and then she's screaming and then it fails. Well no, I I think horror is more popular than Zem.

So many shadow originals and stuff and But are they on in the cinema clip? I'm gonna go watch um that fr the frag uh uh the bride. We're gonna go watch the bride. Oh yeah, I'm quite interested in that. Mainly because Jesse Buckley is amazing. But um uh Christine Bale, they're really not plugging with that at all, are they? It's like it's it's just all her, which is quite interesting. Um yeah, so I yeah, I am quite interested in that.

Well I went I went to see Paranormal Activity the Play in uh London last night and it was absolutely fantastic. I don't even know what it is. What is it? So have you seen any of the Paranormal Activity films? Okay. Um it's related to it but not it's not like a a sequel or or a version of it. So it's a um it's a uh uh a a an American couple have come to live in the UK. Uh the uh the set is like a a cross section of a house, so you got the downstairs and the upstairs.

Um and essentially sh they move there because this she keeps having um Uh, she's like haunted and she keeps losing time and she feels like this this feeling of dread all the time. Is she on space? The audience were loving it. They were all up for it. Everyone was like screaming and like getting all excited and stuff. But then when we got up to leave Bye guys.

That's Ian McKellen. And Ian McClellan was sit was sitting in the in the audience a couple of rows back from us and he's talking to the uh a load of the people who were sitting with were talking to him and he was uh saying, Oh, how good it was and stuff. Great. That goes, um uh should we should we see if we can I'm so we're just hanging around for a bit outside.

And then he came out and he was with the uh another actor, the guy who was um Billy Wal Wallabridge's boyfriend in um Fleabag. He's in Star Wars as well, James. He's in one of the Star Wars films. Uh um yeah, I can't remember what his name is, but so those two actors were there. Um D Don Henderson. No. Um and then Beck went over and said um Da David Prouse?

So Beck went so a couple of people had a picture with V and McKellen and then Beck went over and said, Do you mind if I get a picture taken? And that other actor stood by and go, Well no, w could I get a picture of both of you? Because she um so she got a picture of these two two guys. Oh Excellent. Pardon me, yeah. So uh yeah, really, really recommend that plate. It was Money Well spent play. Great. Brilliant. So

Proper scary. Everyone in the audience was just I had such fun on it, but there was It's almost like a jump scare, but then it just keeps going and it just you can just feel like all your hair on the back of your neck or just standing up and you're like, Oh, what's gonna happen? What's gonna happen? And then it just like big loud bangs and stuff. Um, yeah, really good. Well done, Cleaves. Merry Christmas. Yeah.

Cool. So next time on next time on Jimbo Witch Finders. I need to get to the um come back and we will be um watching the Medusa touch. Will we indeed? With Burton with Burton. So it's suspect. Broadsword to Danny boy. So come back and and join us for that. Okay, well we'll see you then. Until then, happy day everyone. Love you. All right. Thanks for listening, everyone. Hãy subscribe cho kênh La La School Để không bỏ lỡ những video hấp dẫn The general witch finder.

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Jämför lån och välj den bästa rentan för dig på lendo.se. Sveriges största jämförelsetjänst för lån. Sounds like when I did a day in Tesco stuck in Bonno. Yeah. I um I never went back and then they wrote me a letter saying, We thought you did a great job. Come back and uh we'll pay you whatever you want kind of thing. And it was like, What?

Stratford Tesco's nineteen ninety two. They're still waiting. I without knowing, I am now the um the the managing director of Tesco's. It's now called Test Johns. Terry Was it something Terry? Terry the first man that ran it? TE Southern, isn't it? Is that what it is? Was he called Teddy? T E Southern Co. Because the guy who was one of the managers at Borders when I worked there, he told me that his grandfather got demobbed from the RAF at the end of World War Two.

And they were all given like D mob money, I believe, or a guy that he was in the RAF with said, I'm gonna go into business. I need do you want to come in with me? And this guy said, No, I'm not I I'm I and his grand said granddad said, Well no, I'm not s not sure about it, but good luck.

And it was T E Southern. And he and he was like he's like we could have been Yeah, exactly that. Yeah, if he did it he might it might have been a a failure, you know? So you never know. But it's just one of the things that I think. The weakest thing. Exactly. Yeah. You got a suit as well, a f a free suit and some money. Uh, I remember reading about it in Spike Milligan's one of his war uh Auto semi-autobi. Yes. Probably, yeah. I don't know. I can't remember now which one I took with me.

I think it was m the Mussolini one, whichever whatever that one is called. It was only an afternoon in in a police cell, not not I chose. I don't know this story. I don't know You must know this, James. When when I moved back to Yorkshire briefly after graduating. This is not the Epstein class, by the way, is it? I um obviously as we know I'd had a few parking tickets in Carden. Ah, okay. The then gone to the farm, I think. Uh and then we'd moved from the farm and then moved to uh Muston.

So when I uh change my address from Cardiff No, when I tr change my address from the farm to Muston. Very, very soon, two policemen came knocking on the night of the Louis Thoreau Jimmy Sandville documentary. Um and say Is your name There was a few things that you've got to do? John Richard Haight It was a monk and pountly. I think they I think I should have just said no, it's not me. Um they s they were like, Is your name Richard Pantley? And do you have a green mini?

Uh, and obviously it's John Pony in a blue mini. And I was like, Yeah, why? And they were like, Oh, we're coming to arrest you tomorrow. Um they did for um Andrew, isn't it? That tip him off. And I was like, Right, okay. Uh and why is that? And they were like, Oh, for evading parking ticket fines. That had gone up to like

hundreds of pounds or something. And basically my mother had had them while I'd been in Cardiff and then just thrown them all in the bin. Okay. Uh and I think this was a at a point when parking tickets were just like those Fag paper thin pieces of shit that if they got wet or what's the one. When you was parting outside habitat to go buy another frame. In some ways, I still have. So yeah, they the next day they came and arrested me at nine o'clock in the morning.

In a with a full on riot. Whoa In mustard. I thought it was a I thought it was a dog ban because you had to get in the dog cage, didn't you? Well it exactly. That was my It I mean it had a cage in the back, but I don't know. Maybe they all have cages in the bucket. I don't know. So off I went and I'd t taken with me um pen and a piece of paper a pen and a pad to draw.

Um, and and uh uh uh uh uh Mussolini my part and his downfall or w whichever one it is. So got to the police station. They obviously were like thought that they were gonna be dealing with some kind of hoodlow. 'Cause they went through all this process and I was just like, I've no idea what you're talking about. I've never been arrested before. I think the police have this mentality where they think a bit like people that work with medicine and in hospitals, they think everyone talks like med

scripts and and they've all got the lingo and I was just like, I've no idea what you're talking about. I've never been arrested before. Why would I know what the fuck you're talking about? And then so I had to um take my shoes off. I couldn't keep my shoes on because I had laces for if I tried to tear my shoes. Oh yeah. Um I couldn't ha keep the pen for f for if I tried to stab myself. And I was like, I'm not gonna stab myself. I'm here for parking fine. I'm an artist.

This is what Oscar Wilde went through for different reasons. So they've put me in this cell on my own and I was in there for hours and hours. Drawing his own shit in the end though, wasn't it? Just basically smashing my face against the wall and was drawing the devil on the wall in the still there. This is all about a dreams ever since. Um and then um Basically, I it was a Friday. I remember that quite clearly. And they um it got to like half four, five.

And I'd been there from nine and I was like and I hadn't even been offered food or anything, I don't think, at this point. I think I'd just had water. And I was like, um Just knocking on the door like Can you tell me what's happening?'Cause like I'm still in here and they were like, Oh, um, if you're not seen today, uh we'll keep you in over the weekend. Whoa. And I was like, For parking fines. Cafe. Absolutely demented.

And then I think m maybe they felt bad then and they managed I was seen by a magistrate. And basically the magistrate was kind of quite apologetic that any of this had really happened. And I and I had like a three hundred pound fine. And that was it. I don't mind people n hearing about that. It was one of those experiences where you just like

This system is baller. I've been handcuffed by the police, but I haven't been arrested. Did you ask asking? Pretty tight. When was that? Um when some bouncers tried to throw my brother out of a nightclub and and I tried to do some aikido on them and it didn't work. Was it Venusian? Um Oh God. And what happened in the end? Adam got thrown out. Oh, they pulled my my shirt over my head and then beat the shit out of me.

And then um threw me out face first onto the ground and then my br and then my brother lamped one of the bouncers and they beat him up as well. And then next we knew we were both handcuffed and uh we said we want to make a complaint because they say started on us first in the in the nightclub.

And they said The bouncy Yeah, they said, Well you can't we we won't take your we won't do that until you tomorrow and y you sobered up. And but then by the next day when the police went there all the C C T V inside the club had been wiped. And they said if we don't drop charges, they will um file charges against him. James, have you got new glasses? No. No.

So James, have you been arrested or handcuffed or No. The closest your Australia has ever ever come to feeling the uh you know the l the long arm of the law is um when a night out with Ross, when we got really, really pissed. And I was so drunk. But where I I left the establishment that we were in and this was on Paul Paul Key. It's the same establishment I got.

Ironically. Not on the same night. Not on the same night. On a different night. Well this this establishment was called mint or something, wasn't it? It was called mint. Don't look for it. It's not there anymore. Like the electric banana in Spinal's out. Um so I was extremely refreshed, you know, like sort of head spinning drunk.

And tired emotional tired and emotional. And I just thought, Well, I don't want to throw up in the nightclub. What I need to and it it was the summer as well, so it was warm out, as I seem to recall. And along Paul Key, along the water, there's a a number of benches for people to obviously sit down, tourists to sit down. And they're big. They're very big benches.

So I the immediate thing that you could do was lay down on one. And I I lay down and w waited for the world to start to make sense again. And the next thing I know, two policemen came alongside me and said, What are you doing? And I said, I'm really sorry, I'm quite drunk, I've but I d I didn't want to be sick inside the nightclub, I've come outside.

And they said, Okay Perfectly fine. Well no, but they said, Oh that's fair enough, but we do have to warn you, if you don't get up, if you keep laying there, we're gonna have to arrest you for being drunk and disorderly. From what being disorderly. And I was As Ross will tell you, I am the biggest rule following square known to man and I um would die of shame if I was ever arrested. I would literally die of shame.

Um and so I r leapt to my feet and that was that was it. That's the closest I that's that's that's the closest I've ever come. And then you projectile the bombers over there, basically fortunately not. Well yeah, that's it. Yeah. Sorry, I've just realised I'm eating. I do have a cheese twist. Ha have your last one though, John. I don't want you munching all the way through the uh I may have to because um

I don't know, I feel like I need to keep up my salty. Well I I'll have a few breaks in between. They're not as nice as the um The Senos ones with pa real Parmigiano w whatever it's called on. Very nice. But they're like two quid and they're astonishingly full of saturated. One of the best. Yeah. Even now I can feel it strangling. My heartbeat. Um so there we are. That's a good intro to the show, isn't it? How how we've all been either arrested or nearly arrested.

I had a police photographer take pictures of my body as well how went with all the Of your body. Because of how when we got beaten up by those bounces. It was Oh wow, wow. I thought it was a separate thing, Ross said. Not a separate no, the same thing.

Yeah. Yeah. Um Yeah, I couldn't breathe properly afterwards. Oh, I've had an email. Stop everyone stop. John's had an email. It's the police It's the police, is it? No, no. It's an It's an interesting email. There we are. Cool. I tell them that the love of man lives as well. It's all the same to me. The eyes of spite. The eyes of spite. Don't look at the joke. Vad vill du ha? Billigare mat! Vad vill du ha det? Gå in och rösta på viljus.se vad du vill ha ett viljus. Och det fint.

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