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Oh, I remember the first time I did that with some boys from school. And one boy called Kept getting his f*** out. And it was just like, why'd you keep doing this? And even at that age, I was like, I'm not sure why you keep doing this. I didn't go there again. That was the night that I watched Witchboard as mentioned previously. So what a night to remember. Which is boobs and b****s. Yeah. B****s. So that would have been 1990. Yeah. Right. Are you recording yet? Yes. Oh, that is recording. Yeah.
Or I like waffle. So we're here to pay homage, homage to inside number nine. That's true, isn't it? Yes. So we, and we've swerved the schedule to do this just to cash in on its demise. Yes, we have. Feasting on the corpse. So if you're expecting John Pertoy to be a flying vampire, that's probably too near next. Too near next time for that. Yeah, at least next time, if not, if this might be an A and a B episode, isn't it? No, Pertoy will get a mention this evening. Why should we go for them?
All right, let's do this. We're already going for it. We are just in a beautiful, well, that'll be the pre-credits. So that's the pre-credits. Britain. An ancient kingdom with legends of violence, cruelty and torment in its blood. Join your hosts, Ross, John and James, as they bravely tread with you or dare. Britain's their journey to the horrific history of British horror. They are. The genre which finds us.
The ladies and gentlemen, Roblin's and girls. Welcome back to the 4th episode of the General Witch Fiders podcast. I'm James, in full with in Southern England. Is it me now? I'm John Poundy. I can hear a beautiful bird somewhere, is that with you, Cleaves? No, I think that might be like, no, I think so. No, a bird is going for it. I'm John Poundy. I can see like a ton of light back in the use of it. I am John Poundy and I'm here in South Wales, which is still in the South of Wales.
I'm Ross and Dorchester in Southern England and this time we went inside number nine. Whatever happens, stay close to me. Talk with the genre now, this. Too much murder. Not enough mystery. It's insane. Take a trip inside number nine, the new series coming soon to BBC two. Number nine. Number nine. Somebody will get that one. Lovely beat was referenced.
So inside number nine is a British black comedy and quality series that aired from February the 5th, 2014 to June the 12th, 2024 written by Steve Pemberton and Reese Cheersmith and produced by the BBC. Each 30 minutes episode is a self-contained story featuring new characters and settings, usually starring Pemberton or Cheersmith, most often both of them. The only reoccurring elements are a setting related to the number nine and a hidden brass hair statue.
The show blends comedy, horror and plot twists. The series is more grounded than the writers previous works such as Psychoville and League of Gentlemen. Though the worlds are separate, there are occasional references, including the episode Death the Not Browned, part of the 5th series, which directly referenced Psychoville by including various characters from that series. I did like that one. At the time, anthology series were and still are very rare in British TV.
Previous horror anthologies included Tales of the Unexpected, The Twilight Zone and Alfred Hitchcock Presents, which sometimes used comedic elements but not just prominently as inside number nine. Other series like Murder Most Horrid were more comedic, whilst anthology series became less popular with TV executives, Pemberton and Cheers, Boop to Sparker and Aisons. It took me a while to remember Murder Most Horrid. I don't know that was so much.
Murder Most Horrid. Born French is Murder Most Horrid. Yeah. We're born French. We used to sing that theme tune for quite a while, probably a long time after it was on TV. 98, 99, something like that. What caused you to sing that? We just used to... We're a big fan of theme tunes, so we just used to sing theme tunes. And we still do sing a lot of theme tunes. On car journeys. Yeah, not modern theme tunes. So just old Murder Most Horrid, We're Storn French. But what... What?
You've always got to think about the way it scans across the... So... Last of the summer wine, the summer... EastEnders, Emmett Elfarm, Coronation Street. This is all over Montauch, John the Head just driving all around the world. I always say, Mad Men, one of my, of course, loves, I always say, I always go, Mad Men, Mad Men, Mad Men, Mad Men, Mad Men, Mad Men, Mad Men, Mad Men, Mad Men, Mad Men. I used to sing Star Wars, Star Wars, Star Wars, Star Wars, Star Wars, Star Wars. Yeah. What else?
I'm celebrating Ross. I think... I forgot the tune. It's I mean, now... People don't bother so much now, do they? The days of Bronnie Hazelひestor over to get the... Yeah, the... Trying to get the title to Scan. Hello, hello, hello, hello... Etc, Etc. So inside number nine is... Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob... Is something to nice? Yeah, and I do do that noise every time it comes on as well. And the title sequence only lasts seven seconds.
It's good, but also Ross you get me black mirror of course is the other Yeah, the series of the similar time in era Just did just to give credit where you What's the reason for a black mirror? There isn't one is that it? I see that just lazy as an average not even trying yeah It should be like black mirror like mirror like mirror I'll show you some crazy music We're singing a lot these days Maybe we should try and do a no episode where we sing all of the reviews An opera really?
Yeah, which one does the opera? I think we should really try and push the maybe we'll do that for the first time Oh, yeah Where were we James? Okay, so the episode though and the episode that we watched the devil of Christmas is a Christmas special of course we're recording this in July and the first episode of the third series which aired on December 27th 2016 It's my graham harbour and written by a pemberton shearsmith
It took heavy inspiration from 1970s anthology program such as beasts See episodes 27 and 44 a and b and sales of the unexpected listen to episode 29 for more details And this was filmed at studio D in the BBC's L Street Center with rented 1970s costumes and props
The production used retro 50 1970s cameras and lighting And the approach differed from the usual single single camera set up of the series The producer Adam Tandy noted that the blend of heritage and modern technology While shearsmith remarks it looks shit but it's brilliant
That's a fair assessment it looks incredibly authentic Yes Very very authentic And then it says graham harbour the episodes director is well known for his work on Doctor Who Being the only person to direct both the original and revived series Backed fans
Harbour's direction was wider acclaimed with Peter Davidson Raising him as the best director that he worked with on Doctor Who Now here we go I've got to steal myself for this one This episode featured the legendary Rulalenska born Rosa Maria Leopoldinia Lubyenski Oh first time Thank you very much Thank you thank you thank you Why to TV Stennis Automotive?
Exactly that And she has appeared in so many things She has appeared in special branch Minda Boone Opportunity to sing a thing she there as well And He home still He's got me long He's got me long And then for detectives the second episode in a row We've mentioned Jasper Carras the detectives
You mentioned Jasper's thing Minda Fiendtune as well Oh yeah but come on that's a given What about Big Brother It's coming up Big Brother She was also in to the battle board One foot in the grave of course Casualty Space 1939 The return of the saved Robin of Sherwood It was a little prayed Oh I'm not sure it was quite a few of Jason Connery Of course that was a big deal I remember that being a big big deal With that happened Do you have any stenders? Plannads Plannads that was wasn't it?
Yes Amazing That's that's it right And she also appeared in EastEnders Where she played Frank butchers girlfriend In a 2002 cross the dealt soul Holidays Oh wish it wasn't In the 1970s she was shortlisted for the role of companion Joe Grant in Doctor Who
And later appeared in the direction of the Daleks She starred as Mrs Peacock in series two of Cludo Which was a match I don't I could don't recall that I would put it in with someone to tell me what it was Ah well what they would do was that they filmed Like every week they had
Like the same cast being you know Professor Plum I think Biggins may have been involved Yeah Let's just say this I think Christopher Biggins was in there Tom Baker, Tom Baker's in it Yeah He was just remembered Tom Baker's in it I can't remember I'm looking at it Possibly I
I think he may have been professor He may have been professor Plum I'm not sure But he was very And so I think she was Miss Scarlett And the whole thing was each week It would be the who done it And in these filmed inserts A bit like they used to have on the Krypton factor And they would like so they would have part one And they would come from people in the studio And they would go, oh who do you think's done it?
And someone told it was like that I would go on to now to talk about the John Perthry series Who done it But we should keep that for the next episode Yes I was going to find then the quote Sean Conry on his son Jason Conry I can't find it But I'm sure he called it called in some of the like a week-minded Invisible Something like that The one Mount John machine I can't find it now They're in the accent You should week mode You should week-monger's Invisible Very good Very good That's great
And then it also says that she appeared with John Inman sitcom Legends John Inman in the series It's take a letter Mr. Jones Which I think Ross they filmed the Invisible series In Paul Yeah, Paul Yeah, a Barclays house Are my sister in the series A Barclays house in Paul Yes Take a letter Mr. Jones
If not the telephone You're a model secretary You don't leave me in a mess I get my satisfaction Sharing your success Take a letter Mr. Jones Feel the back job Mr. Jones You have my appreciation You always save my life I'm perfect Combination And the filter in the wife You're a model You're a model
You're a treasure Mr. Jones And a letter Mr. Jones How come Tell them I'm not a model But I'm not a model You're a model You're a model I'm not a model That's a good one That's a good one And the way you do it That's a good one But I really don't need it I don't need it That's a good one
That's a good one That's a good one Okay, put it Quickly that one Yes, I see I see I see Okay, right In 2009 Let's go And join the cast of Coronation Street as Claudia Colby An old friend of Audrey Roberts or let's go was married to actors Brian Deacon and Dennis Worseman, not at the same time, with both marriages ending in divorce. She appeared in commercials for a Alberto V. O five in the US during the late 1970s, becoming a running joke on Johnny Johnny Carson's
that tonight show. No way. Well, I never apparently so her work with the London's get with London game ends chorus. I don't know. I don't want the correlation is. No, no, no, no. Ross says that it led to her participation in the UK version of Celebrity Big Brother in 2006, where she made headlines for a role play task with absolutely get, and you can sue me for that if he wants George Galloway. Yeah, Russian shill. A bell in. Wow, George Galloway. Yes. I think I always used to think
Rue de Lenska was Marty Kane. Yeah, because they had very similar head, didn't they? Yeah. And Ross, I can't, I can't believe you've missed out perhaps the hurt for people of our generation. Her most notable role, which is Miss Popoff in their rentergast. No, that's not really Lenska. Is that? No, that's the, you know, we'll be in the lottery any standard. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. Well, there you are. That is live for our listener. There is not.
That was live action. The Mandela effect right there. The years I thought she was missing. Of course, is all gee, that's, yeah, they're very similar. Oh, my God. They're so far. Won't be blown. No, I'm being a redhead. Yeah, all right. I just remembered that I, I've been to like a, I beat a dinner of Rue de Lenska. No, you haven't. Was this true? Was this your, was this your in your work with the London game? No, she was, I did this. I used to work with this charity as a client. And she was,
we had, it was just rate awareness for the legal trade of tiger parts. And that we, they had these, there was a list of exhibitions at different places. And then you could, they'd all go and had dinner together as a big resource there. Roll Harris was there. Oh my God. Mike Platte was there. And Rue de Lenska. And I went, he did the, um, Wombles. Is that his name? Mike Bats. That's it. Now, I'm getting mixed up with, um, Martin Platte. Right. Off of Carnation Street. What's the score, James?
Um, it's Neil Nell. It's a, it's a, it's a Scotland net. Uh, Neil Nell, it's been a long stoppage. You look like someone was almost merging some coming up for a head up. One of the Hungarians. Uh, was it that little kid that went up an autograph with Ronaldo? No, he has been a ex-cute probably. So it, and, uh, Switzerland is still beating Germany one of them. Oh, they, um, topsy to beat. I know. Um, so when did the three of us become a way of
the composite members of the League of Gentlemen? Because I think this is an interesting part in our, um, in our development as human beings. I don't, I don't know. I, I, I, I, and I, James saw the, um, the, Oh, don't, don't you dare steal my thunder. This is my story. You do you, first, please. Yeah, gone, please. You do you. I just remember, I don't, I don't know. I can remember to watch on the TV series of League of Gentlemen, really loving it. My, my favourite anecdote is that,
um, I was, um, staying at my girlfriend's house, um, which one? Uh, let's, let's, let's, um, at Christmas. And I said, Oh, I really want to watch you, um, League of Gentlemen, Christmas special. I did that go down. Uh, so we watched that of her parents and, and they just sat and sign it from the whole way through because it was the one about the Peter file, um,
a choir master turned into a vampire. So that was, and then at the end, he just turned the TV off, stood opposite to some people and just sick and just put it out of the room. And how long did you stay with Lesley for after that? Not, uh, I remember, yeah, that was seven years. Yeah.
I know that James's story is the best, so I'll put him last. My, um, experience with the League of Gentlemen was, um, buying Markgate, and I've talked about this before I'm sure on the podcast, Markgate is as nightshade, which is still own, which are bought in 1992, which is an excellent doctor who knew adventure, um, which is heavily cribs. Quatermass, but it's on purpose. That's the whole point of the story. And then I think then they did the doctor who've themed night on Beepers to the
of 1998. Yeah, when Mark was a doctor, when Mark played the doctor, I know that that's Markgate.
And then obviously I think the next year was League of Gentlemen. So they've been around for a long time in our, and obviously they revolve in a very close, um, proximity to particularly Mark with, and my James and I, a photograph Markgate is, um, as Dracula, with his consent, with his consent in a studio in London in about 2016 or something like that, where he did to move the day along, which is very boring day when you're waiting for the other artists to do their, uh,
Pete, I was going to say, Pieces to Camera, but they're in vocal booze, there's no cameras. So it was all for a big finish, but um, he did a lot of, um, impressions of Roger Moore, which was really good fun. So, um, and I think they're all really nice chats and every year that, and I just want to put this out there every year that Markgate is, there's a Christmas, ghost sort of Christmas, and the fucking Ming Mons are on chapter complaining that they could do it better.
You couldn't do it better. That's why you're set to home tweeting, a Markgate is, has made it every year. So stick that up your ass. Absolutely. I agree with that. There we are. Hey, man. Thank you, everyone. Good night. Although I could have written a bit of, um, finale for Doctor Who this series. Um, I have a lot of, oh, well, it's not turning to a Doctor Who podcast. We'll get on to that in a minute. Um, my, my one then is that my sister, uh, my sister Kate
used to go out with a guy who, who still is a very successful comedy writer. And this was the best thing ever because both my sisters are older than me. And I, and she started going out with her. Him when I was about 17. And so when I met him, these guys are all would have been in their late 20s and were just really cool. And I just looked up to these guys like gods. Like, what's the London ones? I was, so I just turned 18 and they're like, what do you want to do? And I
said, what kind of goes to the good mix or in Camden? They're like, well, take you to the good mixer. Yes. Yes. And then his, um, Kev for it was he, his flatmate is a guy I believe he's still is involved in comedy management for a while. He was, um, the mighty booshie's road manager. No way. Um, yes. A guy called Ed Smith. He very kindly rang me up the, like the day after I finished my A levels and went, yeah, what you doing? What you going, what you going to be doing
over the summer? And I went, I took nothing. Nothing. Anyway, well, I needed, I needed a very enthusiastic young man to come and basically help me run my Edinburgh shows. Are you up for it? I'll be on the next train. And it was absolutely amazing. And it was a fantastic life. Were you Jimmy Savill? I'll be straight up. But, you know, without any of the, the boughs, Savill, let's say. This isn't allowed to play that very clearly.
No, no. And David Travis one said. So, um, that led to me working at the Edinburgh festival in the summer of 1995, the summer of. Wow. Yeah. It was absolutely amazing. What a summer. It was. That was great. And then I then went to London. Subsequently went to then went to university in London. It was living in London. And then you'd get to the weekend. And then every now and then my sister would bring up and say, do you want to come and see them recording X, Y, Z,
we, because of Kev, we've got tickets for the show. And by the way, just in case you like, he ended up being one of the writers on the the Armando Inuchi vice president show for HBO. And he's been, you know, so he went on to do very, very big things. But yeah, the one weekend, he said, you want to, they're recording this, they're recording the first episode of this live show. And it should be really, really good. And it was the link of gentlemen. It was the first
episode. Yes. So if there's a list episode on the radio, the first, yes. No, radio. They, they just won the, they, they, they, they had won. So I think this was 1997. They, it was 1997. I think maybe. Yeah, well, you can just want the script. Yeah, it says that. I mean, you they won the pair, they, they won the Perrier Award. So where did this happen, James? In Edinburgh. In, in, no, no, no, this is in London. Oh, a broadcasting house. Oh, wow.
In recording. Yeah. It was amazing. The proper broadcasting house. Yeah. Wow. Okay. And they, they absolutely, and it was one of those things where you just thought, this is going to be really big. Because for me, knowing nothing about like all the stuff, like the job center stuff. Yes. You know, you know, keep picking a party. And you know, it's just funny. And they, they were great straight away. It was obviously, they were so
already so well-oiled. And the way they were dropping, jumping between the characters, it was like, oh, this is going to be good. And then who was on stage, as it were at that? The foot. The, so, Risha Smith, Steve Johnson, and Margaeton. Yes. And then who was the writer, Dyson? Jeremy Dyson. Dyson. And I wouldn't have known who Jeremy Dyson was back then. But I don't, I think he, he would have been off to the sides if he was there at all.
I'm sure he probably was there somewhere. And you know, they did that whole thing of like the producer would come onto the stage at the start and say, right, you need to make a lot of that. Oh, yeah, amazing. And all of that. And would come in and say, oh, stop, we've got to do that again. So the producer was on stage with them or all the proofs going through the stage. And it was fantastic. Yes. That's my experience with them.
So they're in our firmament, aren't they? Very much. They are. I'm very big fans. And I think I must say this going into this that I am 100% solid gold fan of everything that all of them do. And I've never been really disappointed by anything that they've produced. And I think they've produced a huge amount of how many episodes have they done have been? So number nine, it's like 59 or something, isn't it? And I think that to write, produce and make that amount of, of telly of 10 years,
with all that amount of original material. Because by friend James the other day, who doesn't listen to the podcast, so I can say this. I told him to watch the recent one, which, and this might be a spoiler for some listener. So if you don't want to know about the most recent season of inside number nine, the last one, yeah, turn off now, turn off your, um, ear buds or whatever
the fuck they are these days. And the one that was the symphony number nine symphony, which is about the cursed number nine, ninth symphony, which riffs on, uh, uh, casting the runes, MRJ. James is really disappointed by that. And I thought it was tremendous fun. And I just, it gets on my tits when people are like, it's guys, it's the only thing on telly that's like this anymore. Let's tell me about it. Yeah, just enjoy it for what it is. It's, it's, it's, what did you like about
it? Where are derivative derivative? And it's like you don't get genre television anymore on terrestrial TV. You have to, I mean, you don't get genre TV, really? Yeah. More to you. You get kind of broad strokes like the current season of Doctor Who, really? Um, you don't get really niche quirky weird stuff. I like it. Yeah, unless it's American. Pretty much. If you go, well, I don't know. I don't know. American whole story. I do. Yes. But that's still quite, um, it's very glossy,
isn't it? Yeah. I would say four in number nine, it's quintessentially British. Yes. I'd be recommended to want, um, Jordan Pills. So what's it called? There's an anthology series by him. I've absolutely no idea. Twilight Zone. Didn't he redo the Twilight Zone? Yes, he does. Yeah, he did. I can't remember what it's called now. Maybe it's on the phone. Well, of course it is. And that's the thing that's the trouble with TV now, isn't it? It's all on
so we just watch Ripley, which is great. But it's like if you want something where everyone in the country can just sit down and watch the same thing and it's just on telly, then inside number nine was the only thing really doing that. But I don't think that's how people consume television. No, it's not. It's just a shame. That's what that's like only you and my mum will take me to say. Sources on television now. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm saying the goodies are on
on the on the one show. Okay. Not all of them. No. So shall we start? It's almost finished. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Jessica, right? Okay, we still got script to go. One number of some four to four to four, unfortunately. I think we've reached the the apotheosis of this podcast for me, which is to have the intro longer than the actual thing we're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. So Ross has put Jessica Raid also started this episode best known for
roles in Call the Midwife and adventure in space and time. The drama, the drama documentary sort of detailing the genesis of Doctor Who. And then Ross's put is General Witch Finders really a Doctor Who podcast by style. Christ, is it? Of course it is. There has not been a single episode where you two have not so spoken about fucking dogs. It is not difficult. There was quite a large part of interception. And we are, I got another day saying we're
another one on a Doctor Who podcast shot on something. Yes. Oh my god. She was also in a good episode that was very Nigel Neal. There was a Stephen Moffat one with Matt Smith. Oh, the ending was disappointing. With the ghost. Yes, but then it was like two monsters who were like lonely or something. And it was like, why isn't it just a venture spirit that wants to like kill everyone? Not, not, no, no, no. One of those, listen or like one of those one word one.
I started watching Piran Mids of Marce the other day, the new version, which is pointless, but they've read down the effects and stuff. But I, wow, Tom Baker, amazing. Three murders within the first 15 minutes. And you're like, wow, why isn't Doctor Who like this now? This is the point of like scaring children. This is behind the sofa stuff. But there we are. What's the score now, James? Still no, no. Hungry, hungry hit the post. Jeremy ended up equalizing with Switzerland.
So Germany top the group. Switzerland second. And now it's just kind of like that. These guys are desperately trying to get a win. It's gone. They've not swinned, have any chance. So like I said, we're going to watch this is almost like a commentary for the football. So you can watch the football. Surely you're going to cut those bits out though. No, no, leave them in.
Because it's a very valuable historical piece. Yeah. Right. Okay. So it then says in 1997, along with his fellow League of Gentlemen members, Mark Gates and Jeremy Dyson, Reese and Steve won the Perry A award at the Edabriff Ringe Festival. They became the first sketch group to win since the awards began in 1981. Since today's topic was a last minute change to our schedule, we didn't have much time to research. Steve and he's thoroughly. I'm sorry,
oh, it should say we because I'm speaking Ross's words here. We don't have more to share about them, but they seem like really nice guys, both along with the other two members of the League of Gentlemen consistently create content, which we pretty much universally like if not love. Yes. So which is the man that was in the woman in black? Well, he did go stories with Jeremy Dyson. And he writes, he writes, he writes, he's written a book with Jeremy Dyson, he's one. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
The man. He's a nice man. He retreated. Did he not? Yeah. And also he helped me, we've met him and he also helped me arrange the magician from my wedding. Really? Yeah. Because I used to talk to him on Twitter quite a bit. And then I was just saying, I want to get a magician from my wedding and he helped me sort out the person to do. Do you remember that me and Simon rumbled
that fraud in your wedding? No. Because he handed out books and it was like, choose a word from a book and then I looked at the book and it was like basically about those more than three words. And then the guy got really pissy with us and took the book of me and Simon and Simon was like, Fin and 15 years next year, please. In 2010. More than that. Anyway, we, good. So this episode starts. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go.
This is it. This is like, this is my, my, my, my, my, I've just had to slap this together. That's right. This episode. This episode also features the voice of Sir Derek Jacobi, Professor Yana himself. Yes. Yes. Yes. Derek Jacobi. I think. Due to time constraints, believe it or not, our research for this episode was limited. We would need to cover another project featuring Derek so we can probably explore the life and work
of this wonderful actor. Yes. That's it. Oh, if you've got it, it's I TV and it's pumped. Absolutely. And in Rossas putt, if you've got any suggestions about Derek Jacobi, please tweet us at General Witch 1 in May 20. Yeah. It's something horror. We've done. In May 24, 24, it was announced that Pemperton and Shea Smith had adapted the series into a
West End stage play inside number nine stage slash right. They will perform in the production premiering in January 2025 at Wyndham's Theatre in London and Ross and his wife have got tickets to go in April. There we go. That we finished. Yeah. Right. I remember it's time for something horrific. Yeah. Oh, that's what's the score now, James? One in the time. It's over. It's over. I'm grateful that they scored it in the 10th minute of injuries.
Oh, that's a stinker, isn't it? Breakaway goal. Oh, Scott, we're trying to. I did see Sir Alex was there. He's going to be tapping. He will. Oh, dear. That's disappointing to Scott because they played very well in the last match, but they were very poor. They did. Yes. They paid the price for slow stuff. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. Right. So what I put on my hilarious thought was I thought, oh, I don't
know if we're going to have enough. Yeah. Because I thought we're just going to go. This is really good. We like this. Yeah. We would get through it in 10 seconds. So what I was doing up the in my player, I just kind of queued up some of the ones that I'd watched that it stood out to me. Yeah. And in many ways, this is my thing is I would say out of the three of us, I think I'm the least of a fan of it. If that makes it. Wow. So I enjoy it, but I don't love love them all.
Wow. I find that a time. No, no, not this. It's a derivative. I think as you were saying, it is to be applauded for the fact that it is so innovative. I do always try new stuff with it. I mean, that's that I would never ever do. You know, I'm not that this is not a criticism in any way, shape or form. But what I would find is that sometimes it was to be like, you're just waiting for the shoot to drop a bit like tells the unexpected
I get it. It's like, what's the twist going to be? What's the twist going to be? Or sometimes for me, but the big one was this feels like this needs to be more than half an hour. And it's they're almost could stay up too quickly. Yes. One more of that. That was really good. There's this could be more. The one that I felt like the most with that was the one which is like the bones of St. Nichols, something like that. Yes. I made a special one. I love the atmosphere of that. And I
could have had two hours of that. My thought for that one was Mr. King, which is the one which I put down had the wicker man vibes. Is the one where he's the sport teacher? Yes. Who comes to the village? He's going to be way bigger. This can be the least like, you know, it was a bit like, oh, okay, right. I see they're going to say. It's just kind of and then of course, famously, you know, the 12 days of Christine. Yes. That's the one that I think made me. Oh,
that's brilliant. That's genius TV. That's that's really, really good. But then unfortunately, that's also in the same series is that one with Jack Whitehall in it, which I refuse to watch on general. I don't know if I've seen that one. It's called Lack, Lack or Shet. I don't. It's the one that's out that that's set on a train carriage going through France. Okay. Well, I watch it. Yeah. Does he get murdered? I don't know. I just saw him on the first. I was like, yeah, okay.
And it brought it all back to me. And I hate Jack Whitehall with fire. I like his father, but I think he's a bellend, isn't he? He is. It's just once again, the nepotism thing. I really don't know. He would have been a really famous comedian, even if you know, it's a, his dad's a famous celebrity agent. Yeah. Oh, he's rich. Yes. That's how he got to be where he is. Oh, okay. I hate his dad as well. Tell you who I do like is Michael Potillo these days.
Yeah. He's crazy. His trousers. Yeah. We watched him go around Prague and it was such fun. Is there a, is there a cream tune to his program? John. Michael Potillo in Prague. And the, the other one that I wanted to, that I thought when I watched the song, I thought, oh, this is really clever. And then again, it felt like not that he didn't quite stick the landing, but I said, oh, that, I don't know. It just like the love is a stranger,
the internet dating one. Oh, yes. That's good. Yeah. I mean, things like that, you're like, oh, that's really good. But at the end of it, it's kind of like, okay. I mean, you've seen the doorbell one from this last series. No, it's all done on one of those stupid ring doorbell. It's brilliant. That is brilliant. Okay. I just think that what I would really like to do is to be a fly on the wall of their writing process where they're just, where they just, they must have
sit in a room and be like, right, what's in the news or like, what's new with technology? And how can we work back from that point to make a narrative around a ring doorbell or, you know, like a guy that's dead. And then they just, and it's like, how'd you come up with all of that with all these stories? Yeah. Yeah. Because it's like, you know, MR James, I'm a mega fan. He came up with like 30, 32 good stories across like, God, 30 years or something like that. It's like, how have
they come up with like four times that amount over 10 years? It's brilliant. It's really. Also, MR James was a teacher as well. He was busy. The problem was the Teddy, though. The Provost of wherever eaten was it. And then one of the dogs would, kings, it was it oxen. I would have said in the survivor in eaten was a homoist, a MR James by James Erber. Oh, really? No, I just wonder anything. So this episode opens with a clapperboard kind of thing, which gives us a lot of context.
It gives us the date, the 10th of the 12th, 77. And then it starts with the kind of, it's alive. I think it's kind of meant to be what the Vision Mixer would see. Yes. Regular listeners to this podcast will know we love a Vision Mixer. The unsung hero of the 1970s drama where you're cutting between a multi-cam setup. These are of is the start of Stone Tape, where Jane Asher has a nervous breakdown because she can't
get her Austin Maxi in gear. So that's all done with a multi-cam outside broadcast setup. And this drama is very much a homage to that kind of aesthetic of television, isn't it? Which now doesn't really exist. But in this. But that's how we that we thought that's how we knew Tello Shira's made because they always had like behind the scene things on TV, but we were kids showing the blue pizza. Yeah, a blue pizza or go in live or whatever they think
for this go-fil did when he got kids to review. Hang on. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But what I think was great about is you first off you think, oh this is just a homage to the 1970s TV. And it's going along with it. And that's one idea. They've done it really good. And then suddenly you hear voice over and he has a voice that and the wrong and get, oh, this is a DVD commentary. It's so it steps out of one reality into our reality,
which is incredibly intensely clever because because it becomes a DVD commentary. And any kind of Ming Mung fan of Doctor Who will have watched all the DVD commentaries on like our caves of
Andrasani. There's a Graham Harper. And that's why I think it's a master's trope to get Graham Harper in because Graham Harper will have probably done a lot of those commentaries for caves of Andrasani or the ones the one that I sent to you to where I couldn't find a lot of it, but I've watched it is Revelation of the Daleks, which is one of Colin's stories where it's just amusing to realize that the Dalek voices are lies. But no, no, special effects alive. So it's like people
just dying, but they you don't see the laser balls. And then they just stand up again. And this is very much in that kind of spirit, isn't it? Where you see the rough edges of and they're sort of like, oh, she's overstep done, Mark here, but yeah, we can't cut it or the the they put up the picture of the crampus on the wall. Later on, why they were stubborn the line here. Yeah, but the story, the story, so you've got two stories going on. You've got
the story of what they're actually you're watching the story. A family going to the mountains. The Austrian, the Austrian. Yeah, Austrian mountains. And you've got a man with his mother and his new wife and a child from a previous marriage and the mother really hates the new wife and thinks that she's trying to just get his money. But you just think she's just jealous and got all that. So you've got that story. But then you've also got the storyline of
them making it in the 70s. And you've got the storyline of the man in modern day commenting on the making of it as well. Who's doing this kind of god voice, isn't he? Where yeah, I wanted to do an episode of Gummich, but Pertwee had his favourites. He should have known from who and all that. Yeah, obviously I love all that. But he's talking to someone though because he goes, I wind it back and there's another voice isn't he? He's going, okay.
Yes, yes. There was a. And you think that's that guy Toby Haydok or one of those people who, you know, just interviews like Terran Stix forever, not now because Terran Stix is dead. But I want to pass some who fans do in a say on to get a potentially yes. Yeah, try and try and resurrect Robert Holmes or someone. But what I think this really succeeds with is that the the structure of the drama which they are making is intriguing enough to hold your attention.
Yeah, that could be one episode on its own. They could have done that. Yes, of course. But they've obviously thought how can we put more of a spin on this? And the spin at the end is what you find out is the kind of overarching structure of the episode, isn't it? The storyline basically is that they are told the legend of the Krampus, which is basic. So they're saying if he will come the first night put some sticks in your shoe.
On the second night, what did he put in your shoes? The second night? No, he scratches you. He scratches you on the second and then on the third night he would take your way. Or in Wales, it's called scrams you. Scrams you, okay. So this all this is happening to the young boy of the family. The new wife thinks it's real. The mother is thinking that the new wife is doing it to the boy. Yes. And so we've got that going on.
So what I really like is it rifts on the idea of the younger women in dramas like this being kind of weak and stupid. And you get that right from the start because a homage to Nigel Neal. Yeah, very stony. Steve Pemberton is giving it full. Who's our friend from the from the stony? Oh god, what's his blood? Michael Bryant. Michael Bryant. Yes, Michael Bryant. Yes. Yes. Michael Bryant. He's channeling Michael Bryant massively in the season. He also channels a
bit of that guy who is like toast of London. What's his name? Matt Berron. Yes. So it's a very overridesy performance from Steve. But I like what they said. I love it. He wants to leave because he's going to go and do a. Fenders. So he's going really fast, but the woman knows he's doing it. So she's slowing it down. So you got that first. Yes. And I just wanted to chip in. It was
interesting. And why at what number one that said it's such a brilliant innovation, that notion of, okay, you are you as the audience, you have the media electricity enough to go, oh, I see, I'm listening to a director's commentary. Yes. Because but also how much I missed director, you know, that was such a thing. Back in the early northeast, wasn't it? Yeah. Yes. Yes. And the film companies actually sort of really cared and would pack films out with
extra stuff, including commentaries, many of which were brilliant. Some are dreadful where, you know, you can tell they're fairly, you know, contractually obliged to be there. But sometimes they were really good eye opening takes on, you know, for example, John Carpenter and Kurt Russell's one on the thing is amazing. Oh, no way. Really? Really? Yeah. They're both in drugs. You can hear them opening beer. The best the best bit is is that like
John Carpenter is this you normal John Carpenter self. Kurt Russell clearly hasn't seen the film since he was in it. No, it's constantly surprised by you guys. All the way through and then Lars. You know, it's amazing. Yes. Watch these two from two friends who made the film watch it with you. So yeah, so that whole thing of you as a media-literate audience, you immediately think, oh, I see. I'm watching the commentary. And that's when, as we say, we get like the more extended
scenes as the show goes on and we are watching the original show. You know, we start getting the before the camera start rolling stuff, you know, so you get that feeling of, oh, okay, maybe I'm supposed to be watching a special edition of this or an extra version of this, which works really well. Fair enough. That was terrific. In concept actually to um, night with the devil, which we talked about. Yes. I believe that's a big I thought that as well, John. Certainly some shared DNA.
Yes. What I really liked was the bit where they're talking about Rune Lens's character and then Derek Juckaby goes, dead now of course. I always find when you listen to old actors talk about the past, they're like, oh, dear Billy, oh, dead now of course. There's always that like slightly faux thing of I'm still alive. He's dead. I think this is an awful man though. Yes. Hated children. He would pitch them when you weren't looking. Yes, it was of course a pedophile.
They do, there's a bit where they do a kiss, which is absolutely hilarious where they miss each other's memories. It's quite hard to break down the scenes in this because it is so cleverly done. I just think that um, what I thought and maybe the trick that I thought they missed with this and the only and it's not really a criticism but what I thought they could have done was what I went back and checked the dates for the ghost story for Christmas. I thought it would have been good
if they had made out that this was like a missing ghost story for Christmas. Yes. But it's the date's clash with stigma I think, which is a bit annoying because they could have quite happily just said you know, heavily hinted that this was the missing final ghost. They kind of implied that there's a lot of these films but they're like hidden films, secret films of people. Yes. They're made to order.
So, they said, oh, it's a strange just one turned up after all this time. So, but they say this one, it makes it implies that there's more than one of these sort of things. Oh, okay. But that for me would fit in with ghost story for Christmas. That's what I was thinking. For me, it made me think, do you remember a thing called Silas Marna? No. There was on children's BBC in the 80s and it was a dubbed foreign production that was about this kid who was riding a horse and
it was like, oh, sorry, Les, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It reminded me of that with its use of like stock footage and the castle and stuff and I just thought this is, there's a weird, I remember thinking in the 80s that they're repeating stuff which is quite insane gobbledygook and it's been dubbed in English voices but the stories make almost no sense. They also did that thing to me again. It was called the Crimson Blast.
Yes. Which was where they had it was like ANOVA production and they just made up a new storyline based on the dubbing over the top of it, didn't they? Yeah. Remember that Ross? Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the legend of Tim Tyler. Oh, yeah. Yes. That was incredible. That's the feel of this. It's so man. It's not the feel of those for me where you're watching something. Where you can't quite grasp the weirdness of what's going on.
What made it for me is like the way those, they obviously used period cameras because the way flames would burn out and when they moved the camera, it would leave a trace of raising the camera. That is why you've television, why you've played. Very similar to the one that I don't think we've covered and we should cover it which is a dead of night episode called The Dinner Party because that is full of those effects where candles leave a big glowing trace across the middle of the... Yeah.
Yeah. So essentially in the story, the mother-in-law and the takes the little boy away and leaves the Steve Pemperton and his new wife there and then it's as if like, Kramper's is real, he's coming to get them and then Steve Pemperton's character, how's our heart attack and then turns out... Well, the Kramper's is coming to get her child because she's pregnant. Yes, yes. But it's not her, it's not Ease, baby. So that's, she's like,
I've been an naughty boy or something like this. Yes. I'm not going to go, I imagine. Oh yeah. I was thinking, ooh, I'm an naughty boy. I'm an naughty naughty boy. What song is that, Clevd? I'm just shortly drinking it. No, it's blur you with you. It's from the Great Escape, I can't remember what song it is. Mr Robberson and his clan, though. Mr Robberson and his clan, go. My daughter said to me, blur the best band ever, ever aren't they, Daddy?
Wow. Interesting. A good shout. I wouldn't agree, but I think they've got some very strong highlights. Anyway, yeah, so it's all been a set up. Rishis has been playing, it's a lover who's been pretending to be an Austrian. Austrian skier instructor. Yes. They take away his drugs so he dies of a heart attack. So that's the twist in the film. In story one. Which is enough, which is enough, isn't it? Which is what's good.
But then they keep filming and then there's another scene which she goes, well, I haven't got the no bad. I'm sorry for this. When I was working on the way basically. Yeah, but this is what, when I remember watching this first time, because they've done one twist, I was expecting any more to come. And this could be out. Yes.
And essentially it turns into a snuff film. Yes. They, they chain it to the bed, get plastic out, and it was just the way everyone was just being so matter of fact about a pit and plastic down to killer. That's what made me feel really comfortable. It's kind of rosy, maybe feel to the end. Yes. Pivots immensely. And when I watched it, I watched it with hell, not when I watched it today, when I watched it originally, and it really freaked her out because I think it is
really chilling. And it's kind of depiction of the kind of women's just, and I do fit in my mind, a snuff film would be on super eight or on this type of video. It just makes it feel real and it was just horrible. But then you got, so that's another twist. And then you got another twist on top of that, where the, what you think you'd be watching a director's commentary, is that she a police interview? Yes. And it's just, and that's the end of
the episode. And for me, that is how this concludes the police police recording. It's a triple whammy. Yeah. And I think that's why I picked this one because it's not just one. It's just layer upon layer upon layer. And every one of those stories, every one of those ideas would be enough to make a whole episode on. And they just, they just almost like they throw away ideas. Yeah. Because they know they're going to get, they can come up with some more stuff. It's just
genius. I don't, I just don't know how they came up with this one because it is, you know, I've written a few short stories, which I'm half pleased with, mainly I've written them in my head. To come up with something like this, where there's a triple whammy of twists at the end. And, and film it in this way and get Graham Harper in. I just think it's a masterpiece. And it's just, and it's the stuff that the BBC should be making. And it's, it's, it's, and this is going to sound
like hyperbole. It is a, this for me is like a work of art because it's almost like, you know, it doesn't, like you said, it looks shit, but it's, it looks like shit for a reason. And that adds another layer on it. And it's compared to extra, this is, um, citizen cane. Yeah. Yeah. And I think like compared to some of the other episodes, you know, it might, it might look fantastic because it's all high death. Really. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
But that is one level to do. And I imagine that, that would be easier to do now than to do something like this where you're actually having the source cameras from that era. So making this. Yeah. I think, I think making this look authentic is very difficult because people are used to shooting one camera drama's known in a certain way. But also, we know what that looks like. So if they did this rock badly, it wouldn't have worked. If, if, so they did this
so authentic that it feels real. For me, and I've just had this idea, is it roughing on the idea? And I don't think it necessarily years. But could you say it's roughing on the idea that there was a secret hierarchy of perverts and murderers working within the BBC in the 1970s? I think that's fair. Yeah. Yeah. Because that's what it depicts. Yeah. And I just like said, that one lies on this one
turned up after these years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. There's more of these. There's more of these. And people would do it, been doing these. There are men and women complicit with the crime which is depicted at the end of this episode. Not to do any spoilers. But it's like, that's really quite chilling and horrifying. And when I watched it again tonight, I was like,
God, this one is really like. It's really dark. It's really, it's ultra dark. And you do think, did they edit this together and transmit it anyway and know when you, the difference, you know, because the implication is that the director is only being found out now. And I'm doing inverted commas here. So now would be 2016. Yeah. Which is, you know, that would even dark. If they didn't put them out. But that's, you know, that's like Saville or someone, isn't it? Who did what he did?
And then in plain sight, no one said anything until he was dead, you know. But again, it's like a lot of the best in Sunday number nine. You feel like, okay, there's a whole series that we made out of this idea. There's a whole yeah, it's just brilliant. Yeah. Yeah. And then next week it was took something totally different. So yeah. So what do we think? What is five out of five for me? We can put an effort. You can pay us all the other stuff we watched. It's like, yes, it's
better than anything we watched. It is. And what's difficult for me is that, and it might have in the future, but it doesn't have that nostalgia element of sitting down and watching Peter Cushion for an hour and a half. And that's why I find it hard to give it that score. But I have to give it that score because it is better than anything else on television, really. So yeah, to give it full marks, whatever my marks are now, I would say five out of five for it because it's flawless,
really, isn't it? Judge James, what mean John, I've practically always seen you. All I was thinking was good. I'm not on the voice of road reason at all. All I think is the things that I've really loved since we've done this. Obviously, the Rose, which I still think is just because I was so not expecting to be as good as it was, you know, how that's a grip. But again,
it's okay. There they are. There they are. There they are. So that was astonishing. And I know I brought it to the table and you two didn't think it's much as me, but like never, you know, never trust the rabbit. It's not. So it's like, it's really good. Am I allowed to say four and a half? Yes. No, no. It's four and a half for me. Yeah. Yeah. I'm really, and I really enjoyed
watching it again. I was like, this is really swiftly done. I'm definitely going to go back and watch them all because yes, we started a while ago, maybe even in lockdown because they put them all on. Yeah. And now I think we might have to start again because we've forgotten some. And obviously, so you two haven't seen the last episode of you. Yeah. I've seen it all. I haven't. Oh, right. And the last episode is great, Jones. You need to watch it because it's very self-referential,
but it works really, really well. And it's beautifully put together and it's really well acted, I think. So I want to do it from Twitter, though, that Robin asked Whitson it. He's a lot of Robin asked. He's incredible. He is brilliant. I love Robin asked because because me and have a big Mad and Blanc fans. So he's, he's a mainstay of Mad and Blanc on Channel 5. And I just think he's fantastic in that because he's like, he's literally the survivor of the 70s now.
He is. Nothing's come out about him and he's still alive. And what I love is every now and then he just tweets that picture of Whitson Davis in his covers. There he is. He was. Yeah. Yeah. What's the reason? One good thing came out of this today is that I thought I've seen all the inside number nine, but when I was doing the research, it's just something they've done which I haven't seen called the The Inventors, which was a webisode stars Tom Verrell and Dan Renton's
Skinner as brothers whose mother's died in the great storm of 1987. The stories told for a series of cinema graphs with dialogue. The episode is interactive, advanced only with the input from the viewer. And I'm like, if I can find that online, yeah. So yeah, so there's stuff like that I haven't seen yet. Yeah. That's it. So there we are. It's it's it's almost a clean sweep then. Almost is certainly in our our god tier. Yes. I would say for us. I want what else is in the
god tier? So that's the stone tape. Yeah. That's the road. Yes. This. Did we all really the the the omen when we think about it? We always enjoy the omen. Yeah. Did you enjoy the omen? But I don't think I put that on the same. Okay, fair enough. I'm just trying to think of things which we all went yes about what I'm going to score. I mean, for the different reasons. For I think for this podcast, it's been Nigel Neil or a kind of League of Gentlemen kind of touch, isn't it really? Yeah.
Um, go swatch. Oh, yes. Which I've now got. Yeah. I've now, you keep talking, keep talking. Signal, but in the water, and to curious. Yes. Uh, whistle. I come to you. Yeah. Um, ghost adventures. Which one where the guys the other about the tree has got cancer? No, the the ancient ramion. Oh, yeah. I mean, oh, you've got it on Blue Ray James. Oh, good. In one of those like target acid Facebook ads, these people, um, cinema 101, which is like, we've got a sale on at the moment
with free postage. And you say, okay, well, you know, you you weren't yourself a click. And I kept on it. And it was like, this was nine quid. Um, free postage. I was like, done. This is a fine targeted with. And I'm going to scroll through. No, and see if I can find any. All I get is women's underwear. Which isn't a bad thing. And hell's like, that's cause all you do is Google women. I fucking don't know. And why would that come up as an advert?
I'm not. I don't want to buy women's underwear. I do. But I do imagine that John, when you're Oh, you're watching live television, like, yeah, really like slowly, uh, oh, on your dial up. Oh, it's saying reload page. No, I don't know why. Booby's booby's booby's. Yeah. So yeah, movies, games and videos. So yeah, um, I forgot what I was saying now.
But that's great, James. So what, what do you get as extrovert with that? Well, this, this, this was that this was what maybe I think, okay, for nine quid, obviously, the historical purposes to own it. But it says brand new extras. Do you believe in ghosts? A 30 year, 30th anniversary documentary on the ghost watch phenomenon. Oh, no way. You love to watch that. And commentary with film historians, uh,
Sheldon, Herdo and Stella Gainer. And, uh, it also says, uh, also extras commentary with Steven Volk, your first major on the, the produce, the producer, the producer, Ruth Baumgardener and director Leslie Manning. Oh, no way. That's good. I'm thinking about, I do that. I shouldn't change in rooms. And do they try and, um, contact Mike Smith on a, possibly delete that. I don't want Sarah Green getting in touch with this.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So if we got for this week, something horrific, have we got anything horrific? Well, the last episode of Don't Know You. That was pretty shit. I, I've been quite apologist, I've gotten bigger arguments about it because I was like, I'm gonna give it some slack and stuff. And the kids were really into it. And then the last, they, they just went, I don't understand what happened. That's rubbish. And it was just, I don't really understand
what happened. It was, it was absolutely shit. It was, it was, it was, it was, it was, the one before last, it was like, all the, um, yeah. I was so excited about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, CGI looks a bit shit, but this is, and it was like, it's that it. Is that it? I know. Everyone seems to be saying that. And I try and steer clear of, you know, fans talk, it's all right, but I watched all the, I've seen all the trailers and not one of them
may be one of what shit. I did cry. But, but, but, Keema, you will literally cry at anything. What, um, well, like the, the fifth and fifth and fifth. And Tantik's Rocher. Yeah. What's the, what's the music Tantik's Rocher? Um, and Tantik's, and Tantik's, and Tantik's, but it used to be, it used to be, it used to be, it used to be, it used to be, it used to be,
like a proper piece of classical music. But I can't remember what it, you'd have to find that for the start of the, um, episode and you drop that in now, where I say, okay. Now on BBC One, we travel to the southwest of England to find that the Antik's Rocher has made a stop this week in Turkey. Have we got anything horrific this week? Any of us? Cosiah? No, no, no. Okay. Life life in general. Life in 24. Well, to risk, and we won't get any more inside number nine,
apart from some special, it's just, it's the live one. You guys, you guys, you get to the live one. Yeah. Well, that, that episode of Doctor Who, the 32 yards away one, wherever it was, he, he was, he was, that was an, and they, like, I haven't seen that one. I haven't seen it yet. That's the only one I've watched properly. Because everyone said it was so good that some of the shots were done about 10 minutes from my
house. Well, all I say is that the last episode just undoes all the good stuff out of episodes like that one. It's like, wow. Okay. What? Yeah. Is that? Oh, well, that's rubbish. It was, it made better sense. We didn't explain it with that bullshit piece of shit. Oh, he's, oh, he's rubbish. He's rubbish. He's rubbish. And you don't find out who a need to doxan is either. No, no, just pointless, isn't it?
Brian May doesn't stand up with his torn out. What I hate about modern television is waiting months and months, months and months. Yeah. A year because it's, they set her up at Christmas. They just, and it's like another fucking. I reckon they might explain it from what happened at the end, and they might explain it in the Christopher's episode. Yes. But who cares? Why then? It'll be an entire year where you've only had eight episodes. I don't know who used to be on for like, what makes me sad?
It's not. I was surprised it was only eight episodes. Yeah. What made the sufferings like the kids, I'm watching go through like all the old ones. Yeah. Yeah. And they, they're loving it. And like, and shit episodes, which your episode I didn't think were great, but what should it be there are? It's like, what's the doctor's daughter the other day? And like, and when she, when she regenerate it all comes back and over at the end and she flies off. Yeah. She's going to be like him.
She's going to be like him. Oh, it's brilliant. You know, I thought, I spent cheesy when I watched it, but when seeing her excited about it, it's great. But then, but then, you know, they were getting into this new series and then they just went, they're like, no excitement whatsoever. And I pay shit loads of money to take into the docks through proms in later on. Where is that Cleves in Oh, yeah. God. What we went to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I just, hopefully they just played
loads of music from that Smith and David tennis time. Yeah. That's what they like. Yeah. Exactly. We went to the dresser her, so did we John? Yes. Yeah. And Kiva had muscles in a pub, and then we walked too fast. I thought he was going to see me. I was like, have all the things you can choose in the world, a big play full of muscles in a pub. The thing that's most likely to make you spew. I was a lovely day. My hands hurt so much because I didn't think Matt Smith was really
going to be there when he was. Clap. So it was. Yeah. I almost, it's much as when I went to the Spider-Man musical thing at Universal Studios and Spider-Man came on stage and I clapped my hands. So hard. What you didn't expect Spider-Man and the Spider-Man musicals. Well, I was just so excited to be in Universal Studios. I always wanted to get in Universal Studios and it was like, I know. Where is it in Disney World? That was in LA California. Oh, no way.
All I remember is when we went back to Victoria, you had a big vat of like Chinese soup. You sat on a step and you were like, oh, delicious. You're just slurping it up out the and I didn't know what it was. And then a few years later I tried it. Someone else and I was like, oh, that's amazing. It was delicious. Yeah. Like 38% MSG, I was sure, probably isn't it. There we are. On that bombshell. So next time on Jimi Rich Widers, we will watch the House of
Drill, Rip Blood and I've got some amazing factoids. Facts, Stroke, Rumors, Stroke, scandal around Pertwee. I need to share with you guys. Okay, tell us now before. No, no, no, no. I'll tell you what. Apparently he could suck as a. Wow. And the wet you found this from please. Just some inside information. I know the escape to with his life from the HMS hood just before it was told he'd owed by the Bismarck or whatever it was.
Yeah. And did I think he did have a Rolls Royce on board at that point as well? Is that a story? Oh, I don't know. Just get all your Pertwee facts ready for the next one. Okay. Well, I've got his autograph somewhere, but I've never met him. And John Perkley's ice cream business. Oh, no, Perkley's Perkley's burgers. Perkley's, that's it. Yeah, I'll tell you what it is. Yes. I don't know any. I can't think of any real Pertwee nuggets at the moment.
It's probably it's Prince the Concircus of the ****. Maybe they did it together. Maybe maybe Pertwee taught Prince how to do it. Yes. We're both Alavitz. Yeah. Is it a running theme? Yeah. Both were in the same outfit. Maybe the whole Prince and Perkley was based on the, for Doctor. I would say it probably is. Yeah. Purple red, purple red, the green death, the green zone. Well, I was even reaching a verse of it. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's being heard from the outfit. It's being heard from space.
I don't know any more of his songs. What have the songs you got? Bad dance. 1999. Bad dance. 1999. Let's go crazy. What are the tunes? I don't know the tunes. We're doing a party like a spearhead. A home space name. I just want an extra term in your So I'm from your dance. No. Yeah. I was going to say silence. Yeah. That's not. So I've been meant. I was from franchise. I've been meant. Cybermen never appeared with Pertwee's songs. Oh, okay. They were.
Canonically, if you, if you think about the five doctors, yes. But in Pertwee's run, no, so I've been, which is shame because I think that would have been cool. Yeah, especially with a print soundtrack. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. There we are. I'll look up. In time for the next episode, I'll look up some other print songs that can scan with John Pertwee. Sorry, John. The demons would be good, wouldn't it? Raspberry Berry. Oh, that's the one as well. Raspberry, buried. Yeah. Planet of the spiders.
Yeah. Needs work. No. Oh, god. Tee-y-y-y-y-y-y. Yeah. Dundundun. You set C-Zygon for- Yeah. Hahaha. And maybe I don't know if that work. It's worth trying it. Okay. Zygons. Oh, god. I love the Zygons. Well, let's let's let Zygons be Zygons. Yay! There we are. Good work. Good work. All right. Thanks for listening. Bye, everyone. See you soon. You have been listening to the General Witch Finders. Support the show and continue the conversation at patreon.com forward slash general witch finders.
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